November 21, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
So that's what life is.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
A Buffalo Bills fan is apparently all about Aaron Torres,
the ups and downs, and in the end disappointment is
Buffalo could not get it done last night against the Texans.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's a tough watch if you're a Bills fan. Josh
Allen getting killed out there. You know, there's not too
many times in his career where I feel like he's
been overwhelmed by a defense. Like even when he loses games,
it's like, you know, thirty one to twenty eight and
he has two passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. That
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was one of the few times in his career that
I felt like he was completely helpless.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We'll get to the issues of the Buffalo Bills, what
it means short term and specifically long term for a
team that at times looked lost last night. Jason Stewart's
Our executive producer, Iowa sam is here. You heard Monci Blangyo.
She is at the news desk. We're sitting in today
for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio to let
you know Doug's Green Bay Fighting Phoenix just dropped their
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opener in the Paradise Jam to Yale, losing today seventy
three to sixty seven, so a tough start to the tournament.
Phoenix were close throughout the game, but couldn't get it
done at the end as Yale ends up getting the victory.
I don't know if we had ever thought last night
that the Texans were going to run away from the
Buffalo Bills, especially with Davis Mills at quarterback. But when
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you have a defense swarming like they did of the
Bills offense, it made for a tough tough night for Buffalo.
Josh Allen sacked eight times, had two interceptions, The last
one was on the final offensive player of the game
for Buffalo, ultimately aarin. They did have a chance to
steal this game, no matter how you look at it,
and it started out James Cook ends up getting a
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touchdown run early in the contest from about forty fifty
yards out, so the Bills weren't really missing a beat
early on from what they did last week against Tampa,
and then Houston's defense just ultimately overwhelms Josh Allen. This
is what the Bills quarterback had to say after the game.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Can you even put into words how I did just
to get through a game like that?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Most sacks of your career?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, it's not fun.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
I ran into a couple myself. I gotta be better
throwing the ball away and living to see another down
and letting us play some situational football and pantom deep
and too many times I was going backwards and I
gotta be better on that.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'm not shocked that Josh Allen was sacked eight times,
even though it was Amazon. Every single time he was
sacked had a new stat like most time sacked since
twenty twenty three, most times sacked since twenty twenty two,
tied for the most time sacked in his career, Like
every single time Houston was getting after them, there was
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a new stat for the graphics department to put on
the screen. I'm sure it was somewhat difficult for Josh
Allen to put into words. He took some of the
blame himself. The toughest part about it, though, Aaron Torres,
is how this team is so flip floppy. They're so
They just came off of a game where they dominated
offensively against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where Josh Allen for
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the second time in his career at three passing touchdowns
and three rushing touchdowns. I understand things even out in
the National Football League, but this roller coaster of the
Buffalo Bills is who the Buffalo Bills are, and I
think that is what's so frustrating for this Bills fan base.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So let me ask you a question. I'm just gonna
not beat around the bush. Do you think that Sean
McDermott's message is being lost? And let me give you
be very quick and I'll give you both sides One. Obviously,
understand there's some limitations. You know, there's some holes on
the team. This isn't far from the most complete roster
in the NFL. The counter is they seem to be
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able to get themselves up for big games. The Kansas
City Chiefs, the Tampa Bay Bucks that you just reference
lost to the Falcons lost to Houston last night. Obviously,
the other big loss. Who am I missing?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
The Dolphins does.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So I just think that is the mark of a
team that what's the right word. I don't want to
say they don't like it, but it just feels like
this thing has run its course. He's been there from
the beginning. They've made multiple AFC championship games. They haven't
gotten over the hump. And like I said, the mark
of a team that has sort of checked out on
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its coach is one in which they get up for
the big games, they don't get up for the in
between games. And that's kind of been the roller coaster.
To use the word that you just said of this
Bills team, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's I don't think it's I don't think that they've
lost the message for Sean McDermott or from Sean McDermott.
I don't think that this team is a good front runner.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I don't think that they handle success well. And while
you were sicking your mind for the other loss that
the Bills had this season, I went to the Patriots loss.
And I probably went to that loss because that was
after a four and oh start to the season and
a fourn oh start to the season where at the time,
and I remember saying Jason Stewart and I we were
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in Buffalo when they beat the Dolphins in Week three.
They go, they beat the Saints in Week four, and
then you have New England coming to town. Four of
their first five games this season were at home in
Buffalo against opponents that were a mixed bag of Baltimore
and the opener we saw, they came back and won.
Dolphins weren't doing much, mentioned the Saints, and then you
had a rival in New England who ends up coming
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up in biting them on Sunday Night football, handing them
their first loss of the season. But you think about
the beginning of the year, Chiefs started out zero to two.
The Ravens ended up having Lamar Jackson injured in Week four,
but Buffalo beat him in Week one. The Ravens stumbled
out of the gate. Everything that you needed to happen
for Buffalo to take control of this, it all happened
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early on in the season and just run away with him, Yes, absolutely,
and they were unable to do it. I don't think
it's solely on Sean McDermott's plate. I think that Brandon
being the general manager and the construction of the team
that you mentioned. That's got something to do with it.
I'm not blaming injuries, not blaming ed Oliver not being there.
Every team's got injuries to deal with. So that's Grennedy's
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a big piece, but that's not the only reason on
why they are up and down. Kean Coleman being out
of the lineup hurt him last night. It didn't hurt
him the week before. I think there is this essence
of Buffalo and maybe it's Josh Allen last night. Maybe
guys just weren't getting open because the Texans defense is
better than what Tampa's is. I think they have a
very difficult time being a front runner, I think, and
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maybe it represents the city, maybe it represents the Bills mafia.
They are better off being the team to come out
of nowhere or to go on a hot streak, and
whenever you put expectations on them or feel that this
is the team to beat, they don't rise to the occasion.
And last night I felt was the example. I mean,
the Texans are coming off of a blase win against
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the Tennessee Titans. They were just able to win sixteen
to thirteen in that contest. Well, we talked about Buffalo
going up and down the field and Josh Allen throwing
the football here, there and everywhere, and everybody's getting involved.
And last night they just seem to resort back to
the team that maybe was afraid of the moment.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, and I think to your point about you know,
not being a good front runner that and this isn't
like some you know, profound take. That's the most frustrating
part is you see, because I remember on you know,
the shows that I do, early on in the season,
everything is opening up for the Buffalo Bills. You know,
Lamar's injury, the Chiefs are struggling out of the gate.
You know, the South is obviously gonna you know, the
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AFC South is gonna AFC South, and you know, I
like Indianapolis, but peak Indianapolis and what we thought was
going to be peak Buffalo early in the season, you
don't think it lines up. And now I think that's
the frustrating part, right is if it's if it's a
down year, but you know, the Chiefs are running away
with their division, and you say, you know, maybe it's
just not the right roster construction and the wrong injuries
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at the wrong times, but it does feel like there's
an opening here with again no disrespect attendant, but a
Colts team. Do people really believe that they can win
the AFC? A young Patriots new coach, second year quarterback.
And that's the part. I'm not even a Buffalo Bills fan,
and I'm frustrated because I feel like they had frankly
about a four or five year window now, but that
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this was shaping up to really be the window wide open,
and instead they've kind of shut it on themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
To your pa, what has ended up turning? And I'm
curious on Jason Stewart's thoughts on this. Jason and I
commented when we saw in Buffalo a sign in paraphrasing,
but it was like, this is our year.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Really very dist so it was an open, just conversation,
this is it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But that was the sense that we had talked about
that it felt like this was the opportunity for the Bills.
When we were at that game against the Dolphins and
just seeing stuff around town, Jason really felt like this
is the year where the Bills mafia is putting their
eggs all into the basket.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
It sure seems so, and I think it has something
to do with maybe like sending this old stadium out
with the championship and that you know tomorrow's kind of
a new day is going to be the new Bills.
And there just seemed to be an urgency about this season.
I don't know if they were referring to their roster
strength or anything else, or maybe the Chief show a
little bit down, but there was I forget the manenttra
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and I'm trying to look it up, but it had
something to do with very high expectations, not like winter
or go home or Super Bowl or bus, but it
was high expectations as you walked around.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I swear it was something as simple as this is
our year. But what I think that also like signifies
is this is why it's the tipping point. It's not
only does Sean McDermott stay the message that you get
with Buffalo now and if you just follow anything on
social media about the Bills, you're hearing more and more
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we are wasting Josh Allen's years.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I've been saying that for three years and so and
so that that is now where the tide is turned
to this point where you feel like you've had this
window and now it's different. So if it doesn't happen
this year, if they don't go on a heater in
the playoffs, and if you look at their remaining schedule,
it's it's not as difficult. There's a game against the
Egos they've got coming up, but they play the Jets again.
They've got winnable games. They should make the postseason. But
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I'm just wondering if them just making the postseason is
going to be their best way to run through the
playoffs as opposed to winning the division, being the number
one seed and having that bulls eye on their back.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, it's funny, you know. So I host Saturday Night's
eleven pm Eastern, and I you know, we start our
text conversations today, So I'll give credit to my partner,
Jason Marn. I'll ask you this. He mentioned Ohio State
football last year. He said, it didn't you know, they
just got They just had to get in the playoff
and once they did, it was on them to FLI switch,
and they did. Is that kind of what you're insinuating here,
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is that it doesn't really matter where they get in
as long as they get in. Is that kind of
what you're insinuating?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I think I do think the loss to Michigan really
fueled Ohio State in that run last year. But I
think it would be hard to argue that Ohio State
had the best talent probably of any team in college
football last year that ultimately it was channeled in the
right way. I don't think the Bills have the best
talent in the National Football League. I just feel, for
whatever reason, they can't get these things done in certain situations.
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And the win over the Kansas City Chiefs earlier this
year was nice, but the Chiefs are sitting there on
the outside looking in right now, and.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They've had regular season success against the Chiefs too.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yes, yeah, absolutely. You know, I look back to a
couple of years ago and Joe Burrow and the Bengals
just went into Buffalo after a season and one a
divisional playoff game. I think that there's I look at
them like the Packers of twenty ten, and the Packers
of twenty ten were a team that needed to win
a couple of games at the end of the regular
season to just get in to the playoffs, and he
thought if they could get in, they could do some damage.
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Not only did they do damage, they won three on
the road and won the Super Bowl against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
What happened the next year, they went fifteen to one
bout out in the Divisional playoffs against the New York Giants,
And to date it's Aaron Rodgers' only Super Bowl win,
and since then it's the most recent appearance by the
Packers in a Super Bowl. So the Buffalo Bills maybe
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aren't the only team that sometimes doesn't handle being the
top dog the best. But looking at last night, it's
just tough to see how this team could go on
a streak like that, considering they weren't able to protect
Josh Allen. But again, it's me coming off of the
huge expectations of them taking care of the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in Week eleven, where again Josh Allen had his
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hand in six separate touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, two quick things is one. I think that's the part.
That last part that gets to me is what have
we seen that makes us actually believe that they'll do it,
other than that they have Josh Allen a quarterback, because
we haven't seen very much since Week two, week three
to indicate that they can not say that they can't.
We just haven't seen it. But Two, what you said
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is something that I've been on for two or three years,
is that because of the way Josh Allen plays, I think,
you know, I think Tom Brady kind of screwed everything
up for everybody where we just assume like everyone's peak
goes goes to forty years old, and like, one, it's
just not that way. Two, especially a quarterback, the way
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that the number of we all watch the games, you know,
the number of times that he gets slammed into that
hard turf every Sunday in Buffalo, It's like, you know,
that guy's gonna fall off pretty quickly. And he is
now thirty years older. He will be thirty years old,
you know, a start of next season is like you
don't get an infinite number of years with this guy.
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And that's been my frustration with this whole era. You know,
I really quick side tangent, but I was on air
with Ephram Salam last year in the playoffs when they
lost to the came and the City Chiefs, and it's
just like they can't get over the hump. It's the
same thing over and over, and it's sometime you have
to hit reset. And I understand AFC championship game. I
get it. I get the concept of it's late in January,
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who are you gonna get? And it's like, I understand
all of these hypotheticals. What I also understand is that
the prime of one of the great football talents we
have ever seen is being wasted. Maybe it changes this year.
The one last thought that I do have, I think
part of I think part of why this isn't a
bigger story is because of how much the Chiefs are struggling.
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Like if the Chiefs were eight in two this year
rolling to another division title and the Bills were sitting
where they are even with the seven and four record,
you'd say, here we go again. So anyway, the only
point I'm trying to make is I do think the
point that you brought up is a good one is
that if they get in the playoffs, you know, they
probably match up well with anybody and they might not
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have to go through KC this year. The counter to
that is, like it us feel like, darn, are they
wasting some great years of Joshua?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
And I think your point of through case is physically
the city of having to go and travel to Kansas
City as well, not even just of playing the Chiefs.
You may have an opportunity where you got to go
to Denver and New England and Indianapolis instead of of
go to the case.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
One quick, quick, quick buffalo question. Does the does the
perception of their season change if they lose either early
in the playoffs or whatever. But it's not to Casey
in other words, like coming into the year it was
Super Bowl or bust. They gotta get there. To your point,
you were there week two, Week three, this is our year.
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If they lose in the divisional round to just the
Broncos or something, is that still a failure.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It's still a failure because of what you of what
we've just talked about. The teams that normally stood in
their way aren't standing in their way right now. Like
if you can get past New England and the get
past New England and the year Tom Brady towards ACL then
then great or the year where he has to sit
for four games, or like whatever the case is. You've
got to take that window because you don't know how
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long it's going to be there. And no matter how
good or bad the Chiefs are this year, I still
think they're going to be around and They're going to
be there as long as Patrick Mahomes is there. So
anytime you can make Hay without them being possibly part
of the equation, you have to take advantage of it.
Throw on the expectations. If they don't go to the
Super Bowl this year, I think it's an ultimate, ultimately
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a disappointing season for Bill's Mafia.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
So I agree hundred percent with all that.
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Aaron tora Is sitting in for Doug today. As Doug
is in the US, Virgin Islands lost their opener of
the Paradise Jam to Yale, falling by six. So a
tough one for the Phoenix after their overtime lost to
Minnesota that they had last week in Minneapolis. So hopefully
the Phoenix can just get over that hump and get
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another mark in the win column.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
We were on air for the Minnesota game. We want
monitoring it in the studio. TV's on and everything, and yeah,
that's overtime.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
They had it tied it at the end of regulation
two seconds left and the half court shot ended up
going down but was waved off. But anyway, ultimately Phoenix
couldn't get the win and couldn't get one today against Yale.
It's a win for us because Mark Dominic is joining
us as he does every Friday, the former GM of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers here to talk NFL action in
advance of Week twelve. But Mark, welcome in. First of all,
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let's look back at Let's look back at last night.
Do we just chalk it up to this is the
Buffalo Bills of twenty twenty five, this roller coaster rides on,
or should we'd look more into the eight sack performance
by that Texans defense against Josh Allen last evening.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, I think the scarier part of the eight sacks, right,
I mean, that's a very big concern because it's really
been Buffalo's defense. It's been kind of the thing that's
left them down, as we all know, the run game.
But they've been pretty solid consistently with that passing and
keeping Josh Allen straight up. So I think the eighth
Zach is a very scary thing. For the Buffalo Bills,
I am not gonna give up on them. I think
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they can be a streaky team and can find it
at the right plot. But for the Patriots, it's looking
better and better for the Patriots to find a way
to not only you know, home field or win the division,
but also home field advantage. Potentially amazing turn of events
for Mike Brabel. But yeah, I think the Buffalo Bills,
I think we're seeing what they are. They're a roller coach.
You're not sure what you're gonna get each week, but
you can get special or you can get below average.
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Last night was blow average, specifically, as we all saw
a lot of times Josh Allen's on his back mark.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Let me ask you a question, as a GM, how
do you how do you evaluate the difference between a
coach that is struggling because of the normal factors, injuries, whatever,
and a coach that has either lost the locker room
or the messages in getting through it. I'll just be
quick here, but you know Pat Riley famously, you know,
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left the Lakers many years ago because he just said,
my message isn't getting through the way that it once did.
Year nine for Sean McDermott. I'm not saying that's the case.
I'm asking, as a GM, how do you evaluate the
difference between struggling and a message not being delivered from
coach to players.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Yeah, I think so. I think it's a great question,
by the way, because I think even Andy Reid felt
that right in Philadelphia, where like you know, Harry Rosen
is like, I just don't know if we need a
new voice here, and it's like Andy Reid. It killed
Hawry Rosen until he's like, oh Andy Reid, he loved Andy,
and so in conface you can't say his benefit. But
in this situation with McDermott, I do think that can happen.
I think the first thing you do as a GM
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is you just listen. You listen to coaches, you listen
to the staff, you listen to the training staff, equipment staff,
because they're around the players and they're gonna hear what
the players are saying. The players are going to say
a lot of the right things when they think they're
a lout of a GM. But when they're maybe around
in a group of three or four of them and
they're in the training room getting the rehab, maybe they're
saying a little bit more so. The number one thing
you can do as a GM is listen to everyone
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around you and start to pull together what's going wrong
with team? Why are we struggling? Then the only other
thing you consider is you grab your captains and just
kind of get us to hey, Josh, talk about you know,
sense of where we sit at the season. I think
those are the two things you can do to find
out to make sure that the massag is getting off.
I don't think it's getting off the bufflow. I think
that they were just last night. You know, give credit
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to the Houston Texans. They found a chick in the armor,
took advantage of him.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Mark Dominic joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer. He's
Aaron Torres in for Doug Gottlieb today. Just another one
on the Bills, because I do think they're the most
popular team in the National Football You saw the amount
of fans that were in Houston last night. It's the
Bill's mafia has taken over. Been Aaron and I were
discussing at the top of the show as well as
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now you're starting to hear some members of the fan
base saying, are we wasting Josh Allen's years? Have they
wasted these last couple of years in Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I wouldn't say they wasted him. I mean, obviously Buffalo
and the Baltimore Ravens both and got incredible quarterbacks to
just not get pount the pass out, you know, Patrick Mahomes,
and now looks like that is opened. The door's opened
for somebody, and I think that that's the real thing.
And I think it again. I think it goes back
to guess the Ravens are playing better balls, but they
also have the schedule to start to finally get themselves
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back to five hundred and beyond. Buffalo has played up
and down as we've seen him. So I still feel
like both those teams have every chance to meet each
other in the AFC Championship Game and the best team goes. Yes.
Every year you lose a year of a quarterback, certainly
feels like you might be wasting one. But we got
to kind of remind ourselves how hard it is to
win these things, right because Aaron Rodgers, you know, Drew Brees,
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I mean, it's hard to win him, even though when
you might be the best quarterback in the league at
that time. And I think that's the same situation you're
seeing here. So the nice thing is the Josh Allens,
they look like you said, you know, the another ten years.
Lamar Jackson made another ten years. I think they'll both
get one when it's done. But this year certainly is
wide open to the AFP Lite one.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
An Ever, before I'll ask you to put your GM
head on again mark of the Eagles eight and two
four game win streak, and all I hear everyone seems
so miserable, you know. You know, obviously aj Brown is
kind of a lightning rod. We're past the trade deadline.
We know he's going to be there through the end
of the season. Just what do you make of that situation?
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But then, is there anything, Howie Roseman, is there anything
anyone in the building can do to kind of try
to put those fires out as they continue to seem
to keep popping up.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, I think, like what how he did once again
in the trade market made a big impact and it
showed that block room that hey, look, we're trying to
be the dynasty like everybody wants to talk about, you know,
the kids that the chiefs of being a dynasty. But
if we can win to the super Bowl, we're really
the one that everbody should be talking about. And I
think winning helps that, of course, as we all know.
But at the same point, you know, I think they've
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done it in a different way than they did last year.
And I think that shows that they've got a little
more balanced. And yes, you're gonna have guys that are
gonna be frustrated within their role or maybe not get
those bets they're looking for, but they went out and
they tried to make their team as good as it
could possibly be for this stretch, run down the stretch,
and I think the Eagles are doing that. Jalen Hurts,
you know, as we see him in the postseason, usually
shows up pretty good. You know. Yes, I think it's
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the town that's expected to win, and that's why you're
kind of getting that. You know, this is great, But
but what the Eagles have done is actually really good.
And I think that Howie Rosen made them better to
trade that one.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Mark, do you want to hear my crazy theory about
the Eagles? And I want you to judge this. I
need I want to hear the theory too, But I
think it makes it easier to move on from Jalen
hurts that they won it last year?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Does that make any sense?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
It does, and I do understand that, and I think
that through this year, you know, because they're getting deeper
in his contract. I'm sure Howie Rosen's kind of looking
at the big picture saying, you know, where are we
at with Jalen? What can what where can he elevate
this team to? But then again, we've got to you know,
you've got to always run into is the grass green
on the other side? And what does that look like?
And you know, until they do something different. The nice
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thing about Jalen and he may not be a great
regular season quarterback, but he's good. He can run the
ball and you can throws, but he has been an
extremely counted Super Bowl quarterback and boy, when it matters,
he shows up. And that's that's hard to replace.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Let me ask you about the Rams obviously coming off
the uh you know, obviously the very impressive effort against
the Seattle Seahawks. Just big picture, are you surprised? I mean,
they went all in on that Super Bowl and we
know the big names that were part of that, Odell
Beckham and Jalen Ramsey and you know, I can't even
remember Cooper Cup on and on, and they basically just
have not missed a beat essentially, and they've you know,
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rebuilt through the draft, and they got to the point
I'm trying to make is for them to go all
in in the public manner that they did that year
and really just keep this thing rolling. As they've aged
out of Aaron Donald, all the guys I've mentioned, I
just continue to be blown away by that franchise.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I am too, And I think a lot of credit
needs to get less seed in terms of how they've
draft because they've turned over that roster significantly. Johncketsive line
has played better than I thought they would in terms
of seeing more physic a more consistent keeping Stafford healthy
this year, especially with Stafford coming in with what looked
like a bad defensive back issue. But I think it's
less neat. It's the drafting of the players that they've
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been able to pull over the last couple of years
that have really kind of taken this team and their
young dynamics, fast team on defense, you got to love that.
In then on offense, they're very consistent in what they
do in the offensive line, is playing very well together,
and I think those two things combined with a veteran
quarterback who's obviously great, it's a good combination across the board.
And look, I think I still feel like it's I
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think the three Chiefs can make it out of there
with that division. In terms of the West, I still
think San Francisco, healthy across the board, with the healthy
Brock party and a healthier defense, might be still the
scariest team in the West.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They got an interesting one coming up Monday out against
the Carolina Panthers as well that now has playoff implications
in a lot of different ways. All Right, last one
for me, Mark, it's the question that we all want
to know in week twelve, Shador Sanders getting the start
for the Cleveland Browns. If you're Kevin Stefanski, if you're
the Browns, does is this Shador's job for the rest
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of the season. If Dylan Gabriel is able to clear
his concussion protocol, do you go back to Dylan Gabriel?
Does it all right? On week twelve? What do you
expect from Shador's first start and for things to play
out in Cleveland?
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Well, the nice thing for Shador is as bad as
it looks. At least this week he's got first team reps.
As we all know, he's preparing for it. He knows
he's going to be the starter coming out of the tunnel,
and so we get to see a Chadur that's got
a lot more ability to be prepared for it, maybe
than what he was clearly last week Treads. I think
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it's Shador's team for two weeks and then depending on
how Shaduur plays, I can go back to Dylan or
offten the Shduur if you can hold onto the job
and play at a higher level. It just feels to me,
like you know, and it's easy to say based on Pask,
but that game was very fast for Shador Sanders really
and it doesn't slow down that quickly with just one
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week of practice with the first team. It gets harder
before it gets easier. And that's the thing I'm worried
about with Sador. So I think it's Gabriels team with
the season over, But I think this week we get
to finally, you know, see the talking heads that were
like yelling at you evaluated that they don't understand quarterbacks
in the league might have to choose some fat now
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because of you know, there's a shador standers who went
to the round that might have gone maybe seven.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Well, I checked score, Agami. We've never had a five
to two final score in the NFL. Maybe it happens
in Vegas on Sunday, all right, sure these Mark Dominic,
former NFL GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He joins
us every Friday. Twenty years of work in the front office. Mark,
love your insight, Love talking to you. Happy Thanksgiving because
we won't talk to you before then, and appreciate the
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time as always.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yes, enjoy your thanks doing week, fellas. Thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
By the way, your fantasy team took a hard hit
last night. I saw that on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, Adrian Hill, Yeah, hamstringing. I started him
at ref Monzi. I started him at referee and he
left in the third quarter. It was garbage.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
It was an A plus plus tweet. I gotta say, listen,
I don't feel bad for you, Josh Allen. Gave you
a big fat zero.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I lost my wrath.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I lost my ref potentially for the season, at least
for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's gonna be a one yeah, I'm in a keeper
ref league. So I had ed Hockey Lee for so
long and then he retired. So I've just locked up
Adrian Hill. And this time of year, you can't get
anybody off the wave.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, you gotta.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
You know who's available is the guy who filled in
for Adrian Hill is the umpire. He is now available
for all ref fantasy leagues. Oh Man giving him the business,
remember that one, that one as well sixty nine offense.
He was giving him the business. Great stuff, Thanks, Monzi.
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I do want to talk about Zach Prescott quickly. Sure
Dak is one hundred and sixty yards away from becoming
the all time passing yardage leader for the Dallas Cowboys,
breaking a mark set by the guy he replaced, Tony Romo.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
I'm humbled, thankful to be healthy and to be in
this position to do it. I was on the production
call earlier and they asked me the same thing, what
I've thought this ten years ago? And I said, yeah,
I was very arrogant as a rookie. So when you
play in this game long enough and you can stay
healthy with my expectations of what my play is, that's
supposed to happen. So just thankful, humbled, super grateful to
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to be playing the game I love at this high
level and to still be doing it and just look
forward to keep going. That any of those actually plan
to that, it's definitely something to be shared, whether it
be with CD, whether it be with Omar. I had
a big part of it, right, all these receivers, I mean,
Michael Gallup played a big part in any of these records, right,
Dalton Schultz, Jake Ferd, Witting like so many of them.
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So I'm just a product of a lot of great players.
That's my point. When you play a long time and
you play with the standard expectations that I have, you
should accomplish these type of things.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
He's on his way to being a top three Cowboys
quarterback of all time, and honestly, like if you were
to win a Super Bowl automatic Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I know it's crazy to talk about the Cowboys like that,
but when you consider, like how we look at Roger
Staubach and Troy Aikman of being like the top two levels,
Like when Dak took over for Tony Romo, I mean
Tony Romeo had to give a speech and the whole
deal like that's gonna be have a better career than
Tony Romo, and if if they could win football games,
he may even climb higher up on that list.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'll say one quick thing. One you know we you know,
we live in this ring culture, right and it's like
I gotta do that. There is something to be said
about a dude starting his career and ending his career
with one organization, even if he doesn't reach the pinnacle,
or he doesn't reach it at the top of his game,
or he doesn't win a bunch of rings like Mahomes
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or Steph Curry or whoever. The other thing I will say,
I remember years ago when Tony Romo got that big
announcing contract, you know, twenty million a year whatever. I
was filling in with Arnie Spanier and lady said, what's
your first take? And I said, Dak, in the middle
of all those contract negotiations, just stay a Cowboy because
there's something to starting and finishing your career somewhere. There's
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also something to being a Cowboys quarterback that takes you
through the rest of life. And I think Dak is
going to do very well in whatever his pursuits are
post career, assuming of course, did he finished his career
with the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
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posted right after the end of the show. I'm Dan Bayer.
He's Aaron Torres in for Doug today as Doug is
coaching in the Virgin Islands, green Bay falling short to
Yale today in the opener by six, awaiting their next
opponent depending on how things sort out in the bracket.
We are no longer waiting for Manzi Blayell. She's here
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with the game.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Shit Iowa.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Sam's jacked up about it, so is Jason Stewart, But
no one more Aaron than Manzi, who's on a twelve
after her espresso today, what's happening?
Speaker 11 (32:33):
All right, we're gonna play a little I got DIBs,
that's right, to kick off Friday and this weekend a
lot of matchups for this weekend in the NFL. So
we're gonna just start with taking DIBs on which matchup
you are looking forward to the most. Feel free to
jump in at any point, but right now, what matchup
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of this weekend four week twelve are you looking forward to?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
The Mike, I got DIBs out of general look at
the Colts Chiefs. So we can try to, you know,
try to say all this one or that one, but honestly,
it's one of these teams is going to have their
future turn because if the Chiefs lose, it's like, wow,
it isn't the Chiefs year. And if the Colts lose,
people are gonna be like, see, we were right about
the Colts.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So give me Colts Chiefs.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
I like that, And which is why I'm gonna take
Philadelphia at Dallas.
Speaker 11 (33:20):
Because I feel like Philly seems like they're good, but
Dallas doesn't seem like they're that bad.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
And if they can beat Philly. All of a sudden,
things get real interesting. So I'm taking that.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I'll take this and Cowboys, so that's okay.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I'll just well, I was gonna say, I'll jump on
the grenade of Cleveland, Vegas. Yeah, just just that we
know is he the guy? Is he not the guy?
You know, first team reps. No more excuses like you're
either an NFL quarterback or you're not. You know, he's
not going to Canton this weekend. But the counter is
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if he's definitely not an NFL quarterback, will probably know it.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Bet that game raids well. I think people.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Absolutely as someone who was on air during that Panthers
exhibition and people in the Panthers stadium were wearing shit
or jerseys. Yeah, it's good. I bet it's also.
Speaker 9 (34:16):
In a time that's I think more people will watch,
you know, four pm Eastern.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Sam, I was gonna say something, but well, quickly we
can go okay, go ahead, Dan.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I was just gonna say, it's only gonna be a
select portion of the country because everybody's got that Eagles
Cowboys game.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I'm just so I'm jacked up about it.
Speaker 12 (34:34):
I'm just okay, I'm jacked up about Buccaneers at Rams.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's what I got DIBs on.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
He's got Buccaneers at Rams. Let's go.
Speaker 12 (34:41):
Buccaneers have been sliding a little bit. Rams are my
Super Bowl champion pick, so let's see what happens.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
I didn't know that was your champions to take like
two or three picks on everything. Though I've been I've
been in during March mad I'm not gonna sam it
up for brackets going.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm not gonna sam it up right now.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm just gonna quickly tell you that the Raiders Browns
game isn't even entirely shown in Nevada really or Ohio? Yes, wow,
So part of Nevada gets Colts Chiefs for their lone
CBS game because it's that window a very small portion
of the country, and only northern Ohio gets Raiders Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
What sucks?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's a ticket, right, get YouTube TV?
Speaker 9 (35:18):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Moving out here, fellas, Uh Jason o'dibbs? Did you take TIBs?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Did you do?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You guys got all the good ones.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
There's one.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I love all of your Jacksonville, Arizona Panthers niners about Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Just go to the next DIBs.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Let's walk here, all right, Thanksgiving not far away.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
There's a lot that goes on on your Thanksgiving Day.
What is your favorite part, your favorite hour of Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I love ten am, and that's local to Pacific time,
so one o'clock Eastern because that would be about the
time the Lions game starts. And I love the Lions
home Thanksgiving game more than any other. Or they are
going back to the normal kickoff times, but it used
to be like nine to thirty for us out in
the West Coast. So I'm gonna go ten o'clock because
that's when the Lions game starts.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Nice. I got three to seven Eastern because I'll be
on air with Dan Bayer. Fox Sports Radio can take
four hours too, very nice. Yes, it's gonna feel like
an hour though while I'm on air.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
I got DIBs on seven oh one. Seven oh one
is when I think the pumpkin pie is gonna be
served now. And what we got Ravens Ravens game.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, Bengals Ravens Bengals.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
I got DIBs on two PM. Maybe you haven't eaten yet,
it's still very much light out daylight out, and you
know it gets dark by five pm, so I'll take
two pm, nice relaxing.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I'm gonna take eleven am because that's right before I
have to kind of do the day you go, whether
it's work, whether it's meet up with people, whether it's
go somewhere. I feel like eleven am is my last
hour of solitude on a holiday like Thanksgiving, and that's
what it is, and that's game time.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Thank you very much, Bonsi, Jason Sam He's Aeron Torres.
I'm Dan Bayer. Could Lane Kiffin be on the move
sooner than we thought?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
So that's what life is.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
A Buffalo Bills fan is apparently all about Aaron Torres,
the ups and downs, and in the end disappointment is
Buffalo could not get it done last night against the Texans.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's a tough watch if you're a Bills fan. Josh
Allen getting killed out there. You know, there's not too
many times in his career where I feel like he's
been overwhelmed by a defense. Like even when he loses games,
it's like, you know, thirty one to twenty eight and
he has two passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. That
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was one of the few times in his career that
I felt like he was completely helpless.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We'll get to the issues of the Buffalo Bills, what
it means short term and specifically long term for a
team that at times looked lost last night. Jason Stewart's
Our executive producer, Iowa sam is here. You heard Monci Blangyo.
She is at the news desk. We're sitting in today
for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio to let
you know Doug's Green Bay Fighting Phoenix just dropped their
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opener in the Paradise Jam to Yale, losing today seventy
three to sixty seven, so a tough start to the tournament.
Phoenix were close throughout the game, but couldn't get it
done at the end as Yale ends up getting the victory.
I don't know if we had ever thought last night
that the Texans were going to run away from the
Buffalo Bills, especially with Davis Mills at quarterback. But when
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you have a defense swarming like they did of the
Bills offense, it made for a tough tough night for Buffalo.
Josh Allen sacked eight times, had two interceptions, The last
one was on the final offensive player of the game
for Buffalo, ultimately aarin. They did have a chance to
steal this game, no matter how you look at it,
and it started out James Cook ends up getting a
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touchdown run early in the contest from about forty fifty
yards out, so the Bills weren't really missing a beat
early on from what they did last week against Tampa,
and then Houston's defense just ultimately overwhelms Josh Allen. This
is what the Bills quarterback had to say after the game.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Can you even put into words how I did just
to get through a game like that?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Most sacks of your career?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, it's not fun.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
I ran into a couple myself. I gotta be better
throwing the ball away and living to see another down
and letting us play some situational football and pantom deep
and too many times I was going backwards and I
gotta be better on that.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'm not shocked that Josh Allen was sacked eight times,
even though it was Amazon. Every single time he was
sacked had a new stat like most time sacked since
twenty twenty three, most times sacked since twenty twenty two,
tied for the most time sacked in his career, Like
every single time Houston was getting after them, there was
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a new stat for the graphics department to put on
the screen. I'm sure it was somewhat difficult for Josh
Allen to put into words. He took some of the
blame himself. The toughest part about it, though, Aaron Torres,
is how this team is so flip floppy. They're so
They just came off of a game where they dominated
offensively against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where Josh Allen for
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the second time in his career at three passing touchdowns
and three rushing touchdowns. I understand things even out in
the National Football League, but this roller coaster of the
Buffalo Bills is who the Buffalo Bills are, and I
think that is what's so frustrating for this Bills fan base.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So let me ask you a question. I'm just gonna
not beat around the bush. Do you think that Sean
McDermott's message is being lost? And let me give you
be very quick and I'll give you both sides One. Obviously,
understand there's some limitations. You know, there's some holes on
the team. This isn't far from the most complete roster
in the NFL. The counter is they seem to be
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able to get themselves up for big games. The Kansas
City Chiefs, the Tampa Bay Bucks that you just reference
lost to the Falcons lost to Houston last night. Obviously,
the other big loss. Who am I missing?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
The Dolphins does.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So I just think that is the mark of a
team that what's the right word. I don't want to
say they don't like it, but it just feels like
this thing has run its course. He's been there from
the beginning. They've made multiple AFC championship games. They haven't
gotten over the hump. And like I said, the mark
of a team that has sort of checked out on
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its coach is one in which they get up for
the big games, they don't get up for the in
between games. And that's kind of been the roller coaster.
To use the word that you just said of this
Bills team, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's I don't think it's I don't think that they've
lost the message for Sean McDermott or from Sean McDermott.
I don't think that this team is a good front runner.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I don't think that they handle success well. And while
you were sicking your mind for the other loss that
the Bills had this season, I went to the Patriots loss.
And I probably went to that loss because that was
after a four and oh start to the season and
a fourn oh start to the season where at the time,
and I remember saying Jason Stewart and I we were
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in Buffalo when they beat the Dolphins in Week three.
They go, they beat the Saints in Week four, and
then you have New England coming to town. Four of
their first five games this season were at home in
Buffalo against opponents that were a mixed bag of Baltimore
and the opener we saw, they came back and won.
Dolphins weren't doing much, mentioned the Saints, and then you
had a rival in New England who ends up coming
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up in biting them on Sunday Night football, handing them
their first loss of the season. But you think about
the beginning of the year, Chiefs started out zero to two.
The Ravens ended up having Lamar Jackson injured in Week four,
but Buffalo beat him in Week one. The Ravens stumbled
out of the gate. Everything that you needed to happen
for Buffalo to take control of this, it all happened
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early on in the season and just run away with him, Yes, absolutely,
and they were unable to do it. I don't think
it's solely on Sean McDermott's plate. I think that Brandon
being the general manager and the construction of the team
that you mentioned. That's got something to do with it.
I'm not blaming injuries, not blaming ed Oliver not being there.
Every team's got injuries to deal with. So that's Grennedy's
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a big piece, but that's not the only reason on
why they are up and down. Kean Coleman being out
of the lineup hurt him last night. It didn't hurt
him the week before. I think there is this essence
of Buffalo and maybe it's Josh Allen last night. Maybe
guys just weren't getting open because the Texans defense is
better than what Tampa's is. I think they have a
very difficult time being a front runner, I think, and
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maybe it represents the city, maybe it represents the Bills mafia.
They are better off being the team to come out
of nowhere or to go on a hot streak, and
whenever you put expectations on them or feel that this
is the team to beat, they don't rise to the occasion.
And last night I felt was the example. I mean,
the Texans are coming off of a blase win against
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the Tennessee Titans. They were just able to win sixteen
to thirteen in that contest. Well, we talked about Buffalo
going up and down the field and Josh Allen throwing
the football here, there and everywhere, and everybody's getting involved.
And last night they just seem to resort back to
the team that maybe was afraid of the moment.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, and I think to your point about you know,
not being a good front runner that and this isn't
like some you know, profound take. That's the most frustrating
part is you see, because I remember on you know,
the shows that I do, early on in the season,
everything is opening up for the Buffalo Bills. You know,
Lamar's injury, the Chiefs are struggling out of the gate.
You know, the South is obviously gonna you know, the
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AFC South is gonna AFC South, and you know, I
like Indianapolis, but peak Indianapolis and what we thought was
going to be peak Buffalo early in the season, you
don't think it lines up. And now I think that's
the frustrating part, right is if it's if it's a
down year, but you know, the Chiefs are running away
with their division, and you say, you know, maybe it's
just not the right roster construction and the wrong injuries
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at the wrong times, but it does feel like there's
an opening here with again no disrespect attendant, but a
Colts team. Do people really believe that they can win
the AFC? A young Patriots new coach, second year quarterback.
And that's the part. I'm not even a Buffalo Bills fan,
and I'm frustrated because I feel like they had frankly
about a four or five year window now, but that
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this was shaping up to really be the window wide open,
and instead they've kind of shut it on themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
To your pa, what has ended up turning? And I'm
curious on Jason Stewart's thoughts on this. Jason and I
commented when we saw in Buffalo a sign in paraphrasing,
but it was like, this is our year.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Really very dist so it was an open, just conversation,
this is it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But that was the sense that we had talked about
that it felt like this was the opportunity for the Bills.
When we were at that game against the Dolphins and
just seeing stuff around town, Jason really felt like this
is the year where the Bills mafia is putting their
eggs all into the basket.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
It sure seems so, and I think it has something
to do with maybe like sending this old stadium out
with the championship and that you know tomorrow's kind of
a new day is going to be the new Bills.
And there just seemed to be an urgency about this season.
I don't know if they were referring to their roster
strength or anything else, or maybe the Chief show a
little bit down, but there was I forget the manenttra
(09:29):
and I'm trying to look it up, but it had
something to do with very high expectations, not like winter
or go home or Super Bowl or bus, but it
was high expectations as you walked around.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I swear it was something as simple as this is
our year. But what I think that also like signifies
is this is why it's the tipping point. It's not
only does Sean McDermott stay the message that you get
with Buffalo now and if you just follow anything on
social media about the Bills, you're hearing more and more
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we are wasting Josh Allen's years.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I've been saying that for three years and so and
so that that is now where the tide is turned
to this point where you feel like you've had this
window and now it's different. So if it doesn't happen
this year, if they don't go on a heater in
the playoffs, and if you look at their remaining schedule,
it's it's not as difficult. There's a game against the
Egos they've got coming up, but they play the Jets again.
They've got winnable games. They should make the postseason. But
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I'm just wondering if them just making the postseason is
going to be their best way to run through the
playoffs as opposed to winning the division, being the number
one seed and having that bulls eye on their back.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, it's funny, you know. So I host Saturday Night's
eleven pm Eastern, and I you know, we start our
text conversations today, So I'll give credit to my partner,
Jason Marn. I'll ask you this. He mentioned Ohio State
football last year. He said, it didn't you know, they
just got They just had to get in the playoff
and once they did, it was on them to FLI switch,
and they did. Is that kind of what you're insinuating here,
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is that it doesn't really matter where they get in
as long as they get in. Is that kind of
what you're insinuating?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I think I do think the loss to Michigan really
fueled Ohio State in that run last year. But I
think it would be hard to argue that Ohio State
had the best talent probably of any team in college
football last year that ultimately it was channeled in the
right way. I don't think the Bills have the best
talent in the National Football League. I just feel, for
whatever reason, they can't get these things done in certain situations.
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And the win over the Kansas City Chiefs earlier this
year was nice, but the Chiefs are sitting there on
the outside looking in right now, and.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They've had regular season success against the Chiefs too.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yes, yeah, absolutely. You know, I look back to a
couple of years ago and Joe Burrow and the Bengals
just went into Buffalo after a season and one a
divisional playoff game. I think that there's I look at
them like the Packers of twenty ten, and the Packers
of twenty ten were a team that needed to win
a couple of games at the end of the regular
season to just get in to the playoffs, and he
thought if they could get in, they could do some damage.
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Not only did they do damage, they won three on
the road and won the Super Bowl against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
What happened the next year, they went fifteen to one
bout out in the Divisional playoffs against the New York Giants,
And to date it's Aaron Rodgers' only Super Bowl win,
and since then it's the most recent appearance by the
Packers in a Super Bowl. So the Buffalo Bills maybe
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aren't the only team that sometimes doesn't handle being the
top dog the best. But looking at last night, it's
just tough to see how this team could go on
a streak like that, considering they weren't able to protect
Josh Allen. But again, it's me coming off of the
huge expectations of them taking care of the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in Week eleven, where again Josh Allen had his
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hand in six separate touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, two quick things is one. I think that's the part.
That last part that gets to me is what have
we seen that makes us actually believe that they'll do it,
other than that they have Josh Allen a quarterback, because
we haven't seen very much since Week two, week three
to indicate that they can not say that they can't.
We just haven't seen it. But Two, what you said
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is something that I've been on for two or three years,
is that because of the way Josh Allen plays, I think,
you know, I think Tom Brady kind of screwed everything
up for everybody where we just assume like everyone's peak
goes goes to forty years old, and like, one, it's
just not that way. Two, especially a quarterback, the way
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that the number of we all watch the games, you know,
the number of times that he gets slammed into that
hard turf every Sunday in Buffalo, It's like, you know,
that guy's gonna fall off pretty quickly. And he is
now thirty years older. He will be thirty years old,
you know, a start of next season is like you
don't get an infinite number of years with this guy.
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And that's been my frustration with this whole era. You know,
I really quick side tangent, but I was on air
with Ephram Salam last year in the playoffs when they
lost to the came and the City Chiefs, and it's
just like they can't get over the hump. It's the
same thing over and over, and it's sometime you have
to hit reset. And I understand AFC championship game. I
get it. I get the concept of it's late in January,
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who are you gonna get? And it's like, I understand
all of these hypotheticals. What I also understand is that
the prime of one of the great football talents we
have ever seen is being wasted. Maybe it changes this year.
The one last thought that I do have, I think
part of I think part of why this isn't a
bigger story is because of how much the Chiefs are struggling.
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Like if the Chiefs were eight in two this year
rolling to another division title and the Bills were sitting
where they are even with the seven and four record,
you'd say, here we go again. So anyway, the only
point I'm trying to make is I do think the
point that you brought up is a good one is
that if they get in the playoffs, you know, they
probably match up well with anybody and they might not
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have to go through KC this year. The counter to
that is, like it us feel like, darn, are they
wasting some great years of Joshua?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
And I think your point of through case is physically
the city of having to go and travel to Kansas
City as well, not even just of playing the Chiefs.
You may have an opportunity where you got to go
to Denver and New England and Indianapolis instead of of
go to the case.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
One quick, quick, quick buffalo question. Does the does the
perception of their season change if they lose either early
in the playoffs or whatever. But it's not to Casey
in other words, like coming into the year it was
Super Bowl or bust. They gotta get there. To your point,
you were there week two, Week three, this is our year.
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If they lose in the divisional round to just the
Broncos or something, is that still a failure.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It's still a failure because of what you of what
we've just talked about. The teams that normally stood in
their way aren't standing in their way right now. Like
if you can get past New England and the get
past New England and the year Tom Brady towards ACL then
then great or the year where he has to sit
for four games, or like whatever the case is. You've
got to take that window because you don't know how
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long it's going to be there. And no matter how
good or bad the Chiefs are this year, I still
think they're going to be around and They're going to
be there as long as Patrick Mahomes is there. So
anytime you can make Hay without them being possibly part
of the equation, you have to take advantage of it.
Throw on the expectations. If they don't go to the
Super Bowl this year, I think it's an ultimate, ultimately
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a disappointing season for Bill's Mafia.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
So I agree hundred percent with all that.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
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Speaker 3 (16:42):
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Aaron tora Is sitting in for Doug today. As Doug
is in the US, Virgin Islands lost their opener of
the Paradise Jam to Yale, falling by six. So a
tough one for the Phoenix after their overtime lost to
Minnesota that they had last week in Minneapolis. So hopefully
the Phoenix can just get over that hump and get
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another mark in the win column.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
We were on air for the Minnesota game. We want
monitoring it in the studio. TV's on and everything, and yeah,
that's overtime.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
They had it tied it at the end of regulation
two seconds left and the half court shot ended up
going down but was waved off. But anyway, ultimately Phoenix
couldn't get the win and couldn't get one today against Yale.
It's a win for us because Mark Dominic is joining
us as he does every Friday, the former GM of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers here to talk NFL action in
advance of Week twelve. But Mark, welcome in. First of all,
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let's look back at Let's look back at last night.
Do we just chalk it up to this is the
Buffalo Bills of twenty twenty five, this roller coaster rides on,
or should we'd look more into the eight sack performance
by that Texans defense against Josh Allen last evening.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, I think the scarier part of the eight sacks, right,
I mean, that's a very big concern because it's really
been Buffalo's defense. It's been kind of the thing that's
left them down, as we all know, the run game.
But they've been pretty solid consistently with that passing and
keeping Josh Allen straight up. So I think the eighth
Zach is a very scary thing. For the Buffalo Bills,
I am not gonna give up on them. I think
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they can be a streaky team and can find it
at the right plot. But for the Patriots, it's looking
better and better for the Patriots to find a way
to not only you know, home field or win the division,
but also home field advantage. Potentially amazing turn of events
for Mike Brabel. But yeah, I think the Buffalo Bills,
I think we're seeing what they are. They're a roller coach.
You're not sure what you're gonna get each week, but
you can get special or you can get below average.
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Last night was blow average, specifically, as we all saw
a lot of times Josh Allen's on his back mark.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Let me ask you a question, as a GM, how
do you how do you evaluate the difference between a
coach that is struggling because of the normal factors, injuries, whatever,
and a coach that has either lost the locker room
or the messages in getting through it. I'll just be
quick here, but you know Pat Riley famously, you know,
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left the Lakers many years ago because he just said,
my message isn't getting through the way that it once did.
Year nine for Sean McDermott. I'm not saying that's the case.
I'm asking, as a GM, how do you evaluate the
difference between struggling and a message not being delivered from
coach to players.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Yeah, I think so. I think it's a great question,
by the way, because I think even Andy Reid felt
that right in Philadelphia, where like you know, Harry Rosen
is like, I just don't know if we need a
new voice here, and it's like Andy Reid. It killed
Hawry Rosen until he's like, oh Andy Reid, he loved Andy,
and so in conface you can't say his benefit. But
in this situation with McDermott, I do think that can happen.
I think the first thing you do as a GM
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is you just listen. You listen to coaches, you listen
to the staff, you listen to the training staff, equipment staff,
because they're around the players and they're gonna hear what
the players are saying. The players are going to say
a lot of the right things when they think they're
a lout of a GM. But when they're maybe around
in a group of three or four of them and
they're in the training room getting the rehab, maybe they're
saying a little bit more so. The number one thing
you can do as a GM is listen to everyone
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around you and start to pull together what's going wrong
with team? Why are we struggling? Then the only other
thing you consider is you grab your captains and just
kind of get us to hey, Josh, talk about you know,
sense of where we sit at the season. I think
those are the two things you can do to find
out to make sure that the massag is getting off.
I don't think it's getting off the bufflow. I think
that they were just last night. You know, give credit
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to the Houston Texans. They found a chick in the armor,
took advantage of him.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Mark Dominic joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer. He's
Aaron Torres in for Doug Gottlieb today. Just another one
on the Bills, because I do think they're the most
popular team in the National Football You saw the amount
of fans that were in Houston last night. It's the
Bill's mafia has taken over. Been Aaron and I were
discussing at the top of the show as well as
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now you're starting to hear some members of the fan
base saying, are we wasting Josh Allen's years? Have they
wasted these last couple of years in Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I wouldn't say they wasted him. I mean, obviously Buffalo
and the Baltimore Ravens both and got incredible quarterbacks to
just not get pount the pass out, you know, Patrick Mahomes,
and now looks like that is opened. The door's opened
for somebody, and I think that that's the real thing.
And I think it again. I think it goes back
to guess the Ravens are playing better balls, but they
also have the schedule to start to finally get themselves
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back to five hundred and beyond. Buffalo has played up
and down as we've seen him. So I still feel
like both those teams have every chance to meet each
other in the AFC Championship Game and the best team goes. Yes.
Every year you lose a year of a quarterback, certainly
feels like you might be wasting one. But we got
to kind of remind ourselves how hard it is to
win these things, right because Aaron Rodgers, you know, Drew Brees,
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I mean, it's hard to win him, even though when
you might be the best quarterback in the league at
that time. And I think that's the same situation you're
seeing here. So the nice thing is the Josh Allens,
they look like you said, you know, the another ten years.
Lamar Jackson made another ten years. I think they'll both
get one when it's done. But this year certainly is
wide open to the AFP Lite one.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
An Ever, before I'll ask you to put your GM
head on again mark of the Eagles eight and two
four game win streak, and all I hear everyone seems
so miserable, you know. You know, obviously aj Brown is
kind of a lightning rod. We're past the trade deadline.
We know he's going to be there through the end
of the season. Just what do you make of that situation?
(22:17):
But then, is there anything, Howie Roseman, is there anything
anyone in the building can do to kind of try
to put those fires out as they continue to seem
to keep popping up.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, I think, like what how he did once again
in the trade market made a big impact and it
showed that block room that hey, look, we're trying to
be the dynasty like everybody wants to talk about, you know,
the kids that the chiefs of being a dynasty. But
if we can win to the super Bowl, we're really
the one that everbody should be talking about. And I
think winning helps that, of course, as we all know.
But at the same point, you know, I think they've
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done it in a different way than they did last year.
And I think that shows that they've got a little
more balanced. And yes, you're gonna have guys that are
gonna be frustrated within their role or maybe not get
those bets they're looking for, but they went out and
they tried to make their team as good as it
could possibly be for this stretch, run down the stretch,
and I think the Eagles are doing that. Jalen Hurts,
you know, as we see him in the postseason, usually
shows up pretty good. You know. Yes, I think it's
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the town that's expected to win, and that's why you're
kind of getting that. You know, this is great, But
but what the Eagles have done is actually really good.
And I think that Howie Rosen made them better to
trade that one.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Mark, do you want to hear my crazy theory about
the Eagles? And I want you to judge this. I
need I want to hear the theory too, But I
think it makes it easier to move on from Jalen
hurts that they won it last year?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Does that make any sense?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
It does, and I do understand that, and I think
that through this year, you know, because they're getting deeper
in his contract. I'm sure Howie Rosen's kind of looking
at the big picture saying, you know, where are we
at with Jalen? What can what where can he elevate
this team to? But then again, we've got to you know,
you've got to always run into is the grass green
on the other side? And what does that look like?
And you know, until they do something different. The nice
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thing about Jalen and he may not be a great
regular season quarterback, but he's good. He can run the
ball and you can throws, but he has been an
extremely counted Super Bowl quarterback and boy, when it matters,
he shows up. And that's that's hard to replace.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Let me ask you about the Rams obviously coming off
the uh you know, obviously the very impressive effort against
the Seattle Seahawks. Just big picture, are you surprised? I mean,
they went all in on that Super Bowl and we
know the big names that were part of that, Odell
Beckham and Jalen Ramsey and you know, I can't even
remember Cooper Cup on and on, and they basically just
have not missed a beat essentially, and they've you know,
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rebuilt through the draft, and they got to the point
I'm trying to make is for them to go all
in in the public manner that they did that year
and really just keep this thing rolling. As they've aged
out of Aaron Donald, all the guys I've mentioned, I
just continue to be blown away by that franchise.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I am too, And I think a lot of credit
needs to get less seed in terms of how they've
draft because they've turned over that roster significantly. Johncketsive line
has played better than I thought they would in terms
of seeing more physic a more consistent keeping Stafford healthy
this year, especially with Stafford coming in with what looked
like a bad defensive back issue. But I think it's
less neat. It's the drafting of the players that they've
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been able to pull over the last couple of years
that have really kind of taken this team and their
young dynamics, fast team on defense, you got to love that.
In then on offense, they're very consistent in what they
do in the offensive line, is playing very well together,
and I think those two things combined with a veteran
quarterback who's obviously great, it's a good combination across the board.
And look, I think I still feel like it's I
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think the three Chiefs can make it out of there
with that division. In terms of the West, I still
think San Francisco, healthy across the board, with the healthy
Brock party and a healthier defense, might be still the
scariest team in the West.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They got an interesting one coming up Monday out against
the Carolina Panthers as well that now has playoff implications
in a lot of different ways. All Right, last one
for me, Mark, it's the question that we all want
to know in week twelve, Shador Sanders getting the start
for the Cleveland Browns. If you're Kevin Stefanski, if you're
the Browns, does is this Shador's job for the rest
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of the season. If Dylan Gabriel is able to clear
his concussion protocol, do you go back to Dylan Gabriel?
Does it all right? On week twelve? What do you
expect from Shador's first start and for things to play
out in Cleveland?
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Well, the nice thing for Shador is as bad as
it looks. At least this week he's got first team reps.
As we all know, he's preparing for it. He knows
he's going to be the starter coming out of the tunnel,
and so we get to see a Chadur that's got
a lot more ability to be prepared for it, maybe
than what he was clearly last week Treads. I think
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it's Shador's team for two weeks and then depending on
how Shaduur plays, I can go back to Dylan or
offten the Shduur if you can hold onto the job
and play at a higher level. It just feels to me,
like you know, and it's easy to say based on Pask,
but that game was very fast for Shador Sanders really
and it doesn't slow down that quickly with just one
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week of practice with the first team. It gets harder
before it gets easier. And that's the thing I'm worried
about with Sador. So I think it's Gabriels team with
the season over, But I think this week we get
to finally, you know, see the talking heads that were
like yelling at you evaluated that they don't understand quarterbacks
in the league might have to choose some fat now
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because of you know, there's a shador standers who went
to the round that might have gone maybe seven.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Well, I checked score, Agami. We've never had a five
to two final score in the NFL. Maybe it happens
in Vegas on Sunday, all right, sure these Mark Dominic,
former NFL GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He joins
us every Friday. Twenty years of work in the front office. Mark,
love your insight, Love talking to you. Happy Thanksgiving because
we won't talk to you before then, and appreciate the
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time as always.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yes, enjoy your thanks doing week, fellas. Thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
By the way, your fantasy team took a hard hit
last night. I saw that on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, Adrian Hill, Yeah, hamstringing. I started him
at ref Monzi. I started him at referee and he
left in the third quarter. It was garbage.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
It was an A plus plus tweet. I gotta say, listen,
I don't feel bad for you, Josh Allen. Gave you
a big fat zero.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I lost my wrath.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I lost my ref potentially for the season, at least
for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's gonna be a one yeah, I'm in a keeper
ref league. So I had ed Hockey Lee for so
long and then he retired. So I've just locked up
Adrian Hill. And this time of year, you can't get
anybody off the wave.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, you gotta.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
You know who's available is the guy who filled in
for Adrian Hill is the umpire. He is now available
for all ref fantasy leagues. Oh Man giving him the business,
remember that one, that one as well sixty nine offense.
He was giving him the business. Great stuff, Thanks, Monzi.
(28:58):
I do want to talk about Zach Prescott quickly. Sure
Dak is one hundred and sixty yards away from becoming
the all time passing yardage leader for the Dallas Cowboys,
breaking a mark set by the guy he replaced, Tony Romo.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
I'm humbled, thankful to be healthy and to be in
this position to do it. I was on the production
call earlier and they asked me the same thing, what
I've thought this ten years ago? And I said, yeah,
I was very arrogant as a rookie. So when you
play in this game long enough and you can stay
healthy with my expectations of what my play is, that's
supposed to happen. So just thankful, humbled, super grateful to
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to be playing the game I love at this high
level and to still be doing it and just look
forward to keep going. That any of those actually plan
to that, it's definitely something to be shared, whether it
be with CD, whether it be with Omar. I had
a big part of it, right, all these receivers, I mean,
Michael Gallup played a big part in any of these records, right,
Dalton Schultz, Jake Ferd, Witting like so many of them.
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So I'm just a product of a lot of great players.
That's my point. When you play a long time and
you play with the standard expectations that I have, you
should accomplish these type of things.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
He's on his way to being a top three Cowboys
quarterback of all time, and honestly, like if you were
to win a Super Bowl automatic Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I know it's crazy to talk about the Cowboys like that,
but when you consider, like how we look at Roger
Staubach and Troy Aikman of being like the top two levels,
Like when Dak took over for Tony Romo, I mean
Tony Romeo had to give a speech and the whole
deal like that's gonna be have a better career than
Tony Romo, and if if they could win football games,
he may even climb higher up on that list.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'll say one quick thing. One you know we you know,
we live in this ring culture, right and it's like
I gotta do that. There is something to be said
about a dude starting his career and ending his career
with one organization, even if he doesn't reach the pinnacle,
or he doesn't reach it at the top of his game,
or he doesn't win a bunch of rings like Mahomes
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or Steph Curry or whoever. The other thing I will say,
I remember years ago when Tony Romo got that big
announcing contract, you know, twenty million a year whatever. I
was filling in with Arnie Spanier and lady said, what's
your first take? And I said, Dak, in the middle
of all those contract negotiations, just stay a Cowboy because
there's something to starting and finishing your career somewhere. There's
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also something to being a Cowboys quarterback that takes you
through the rest of life. And I think Dak is
going to do very well in whatever his pursuits are
post career, assuming of course, did he finished his career
with the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
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He's Aaron Torres in for Doug today as Doug is
coaching in the Virgin Islands, green Bay falling short to
Yale today in the opener by six, awaiting their next
opponent depending on how things sort out in the bracket.
We are no longer waiting for Manzi Blayell. She's here
(32:14):
with the game.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Shit Iowa.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Sam's jacked up about it, so is Jason Stewart, But
no one more Aaron than Manzi, who's on a twelve
after her espresso today, what's happening?
Speaker 11 (32:33):
All right, we're gonna play a little I got DIBs,
that's right, to kick off Friday and this weekend a
lot of matchups for this weekend in the NFL. So
we're gonna just start with taking DIBs on which matchup
you are looking forward to the most. Feel free to
jump in at any point, but right now, what matchup
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of this weekend four week twelve are you looking forward to?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
The Mike, I got DIBs out of general look at
the Colts Chiefs. So we can try to, you know,
try to say all this one or that one, but honestly,
it's one of these teams is going to have their
future turn because if the Chiefs lose, it's like, wow,
it isn't the Chiefs year. And if the Colts lose,
people are gonna be like, see, we were right about
the Colts.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So give me Colts Chiefs.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
I like that, And which is why I'm gonna take
Philadelphia at Dallas.
Speaker 11 (33:20):
Because I feel like Philly seems like they're good, but
Dallas doesn't seem like they're that bad.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
And if they can beat Philly. All of a sudden,
things get real interesting. So I'm taking that.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I'll take this and Cowboys, so that's okay.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I'll just well, I was gonna say, I'll jump on
the grenade of Cleveland, Vegas. Yeah, just just that we
know is he the guy? Is he not the guy?
You know, first team reps. No more excuses like you're
either an NFL quarterback or you're not. You know, he's
not going to Canton this weekend. But the counter is
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if he's definitely not an NFL quarterback, will probably know it.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Bet that game raids well. I think people.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Absolutely as someone who was on air during that Panthers
exhibition and people in the Panthers stadium were wearing shit
or jerseys. Yeah, it's good. I bet it's also.
Speaker 9 (34:16):
In a time that's I think more people will watch,
you know, four pm Eastern.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Sam, I was gonna say something, but well, quickly we
can go okay, go ahead, Dan.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I was just gonna say, it's only gonna be a
select portion of the country because everybody's got that Eagles
Cowboys game.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I'm just so I'm jacked up about it.
Speaker 12 (34:34):
I'm just okay, I'm jacked up about Buccaneers at Rams.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's what I got DIBs on.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
He's got Buccaneers at Rams. Let's go.
Speaker 12 (34:41):
Buccaneers have been sliding a little bit. Rams are my
Super Bowl champion pick, so let's see what happens.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
I didn't know that was your champions to take like
two or three picks on everything. Though I've been I've
been in during March mad I'm not gonna sam it
up for brackets going.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm not gonna sam it up right now.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm just gonna quickly tell you that the Raiders Browns
game isn't even entirely shown in Nevada really or Ohio? Yes, wow,
So part of Nevada gets Colts Chiefs for their lone
CBS game because it's that window a very small portion
of the country, and only northern Ohio gets Raiders Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
What sucks?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's a ticket, right, get YouTube TV?
Speaker 9 (35:18):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Moving out here, fellas, Uh Jason o'dibbs? Did you take TIBs?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Did you do?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You guys got all the good ones.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
There's one.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I love all of your Jacksonville, Arizona Panthers niners about Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Just go to the next DIBs.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Let's walk here, all right, Thanksgiving not far away.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
There's a lot that goes on on your Thanksgiving Day.
What is your favorite part, your favorite hour of Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I love ten am, and that's local to Pacific time,
so one o'clock Eastern because that would be about the
time the Lions game starts. And I love the Lions
home Thanksgiving game more than any other. Or they are
going back to the normal kickoff times, but it used
to be like nine to thirty for us out in
the West Coast. So I'm gonna go ten o'clock because
that's when the Lions game starts.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Nice. I got three to seven Eastern because I'll be
on air with Dan Bayer. Fox Sports Radio can take
four hours too, very nice. Yes, it's gonna feel like
an hour though while I'm on air.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
I got DIBs on seven oh one. Seven oh one
is when I think the pumpkin pie is gonna be
served now. And what we got Ravens Ravens game.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, Bengals Ravens Bengals.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
I got DIBs on two PM. Maybe you haven't eaten yet,
it's still very much light out daylight out, and you
know it gets dark by five pm, so I'll take
two pm, nice relaxing.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I'm gonna take eleven am because that's right before I
have to kind of do the day you go, whether
it's work, whether it's meet up with people, whether it's
go somewhere. I feel like eleven am is my last
hour of solitude on a holiday like Thanksgiving, and that's
what it is, and that's game time.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Thank you very much, Bonsi, Jason Sam He's Aeron Torres.
I'm Dan Bayer. Could Lane Kiffin be on the move
sooner than we thought?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's next
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