Why We Don't Like The Rockets

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all right, A lot of popcorn. It's It's the first
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refill twice. I had a lot of popcorn. I am
popcorn out, all right. Let's get to it. Um, I
got the NFL draft stuff, I got Josh Rosen stuff.

(02:35):
Sam Amy's gonna join us, will continue the n NBA conversation.
Got nfl ough. Brian Balding is gonna join us for
an hour. Now, our Baltic is gonna joyus for our
great so we'll talk winners, losers will talk to Josh Rosen. Thing.
What I still think is the biggest thing of the
NFL Draft had nothing to do with the NFL Draft.
It did have to do the Cancer Chiefs. I think
it changed the entire dynamic of the NFL. We'll get

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to that. Well, start with the NBA playoffs, the Rockets
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At Farmers dot com. Here's James Harden on the officiating.

(03:23):
I just want to fear chance man called a game
how it's supposed to be called and and that's it.
And I'll live with the results. But especially we all
know what happened, you know a few years back with Kauai,
like that can change an entire series. Just called a game,
how it's supposed to be called, and and we'll live
with the results, and it's it's planning simple. Now, for
the record, I do think that James Harden is right

(03:43):
from this standpoint. Throughout the NBA regular season, when you'd
get anywhere near James Harden and a three point shot,
if you made any sort of contact or ran under him,
he would get the foul call. A matter of fact,
he had over a hundred fouls called on three points
three point attempts this year. I think it's a hundred

(04:05):
and six. The next closest was below thirty three. Like,
in other words, two thirds more than any other individual
player in the NBA. Now, look, he goes the free
throw line more than anybody like this is part of
his game. And the officiating did change from the regular season.
Should also be pointed out that deficiating normally changes from

(04:28):
the regular season. This is not abnormal. I don't think
he helps himself by falling down every time he shoots
at three. I don't think Chris Paul helps it by
throwing out his feet and falling down every time they
shoot their three. But they are not totally wrong. And
the Rockets are sitting there telling us that we don't

(04:48):
like them, that we want to That's essentially what you're saying.
The revs don't like them, The refs don't want them
to work with. I don't think the revs like or
dislike them. I can tell you that we as Americans
don't like the Houston Rockets. Let's just say it, let's
not code it in any other message. And and here's
why we don't like the Houston Rockets because they embody

(05:10):
the two parts, the two parts of the NBA in
the nineties and early two thousands and the new NBA
that we don't like. Right, what did you what would
they we used to make fun of in the nineteen
eighties and nineties NBA. Oh, the ISO ball, Right, give
it to one guy and clear out aside. Is So

(05:34):
we didn't like it with Carmelo. It didn't work for
Michael Jordan's It worked for scoring points, but that wasn't
how he won championships. We've always had a thing about is.
So we've also always had a thing about man Man.
They let him go with travels in the NBA. And
how many times have you seen James Harden get away
with the step back travel or the extra little step travel?

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Have you seen that? So if you go back historically,
we don't like that. We also don't like two thousand
nine NBA basketball. From this standpoint, shoot too many threes? Right,
No one shoots more threes than the Houston Rockets released
it seems that way um and the flipping the head

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back and acting like you get fouled every time you
drive to the basket. I don't know if we don't
like the Rockets individually alright, Like James Harden, his story
is not that unlikable, but his style in many ways
embodies the two parts, two parts of this NBA and
two parts of the old NBA that we never liked.
And so no, we don't like you. We just don't. Sorry,

(06:42):
I mean, you can tell me you should like. I'm fine.
We don't like when you go uh three's point line
to three point line play the old man basketball? Do we?
And we don't like when you throw your head back
every time you drive. Do we? And we don't like
when teams over dribble dribble dribble dribble, dribble, drib dribble, ribble,
drible dribble dribble one on one do we know? Oh yeah,

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And here's the last thing. I I personally think Chris
Paul is as good a point guard as has ever
played the game. But is there any more thoroughly unlikable
player if you're not a Houston Rockets fan, has to
be the toughest, make the tough guy faces, complains about
every call everyone's done him wrong. He never fouls and

(07:31):
he always gets fould and he's always making mean mug
faces like he's the toughest guy on earth. Like you
just we don't have to get over the Rockets. We
were never into them. We just don't like you. And
so sure you could point out that it and it's
fair to say the officiating is generally different in the
postseason than his regular season. And these were plays that

(07:53):
were called fouls in the regular season. But when you're
James Harden, you fall down every time, or in the
previous series, we see you act like you get hit
in the throat and upon further review, you never touched.
I'm sorry, we just don't have any sympathy. We don't
you don't any There's plenty of NBA players and coaches

(08:15):
I've talked to like, yeah, you know what, He's right,
those you were called fouls in the regular season, but
you know this is kind of how it goes in
the postseason. And it's the Rockets. Nobody likes the Rockets.
The Rockets are also their management team is one of
those things. They're smarter than everybody else, right, Like, I

(08:37):
don't know if you saw that story about when they
made the James Harden trade and I was like, Wow,
they were genius to make the James Harden trade. They were,
but they also thought, you know, that James Harden and
Jeremy Lynn were going to be two transformative stars. One
for two is not bad, but they swung and missed
on Jeremy Lynn. Right, we can all agree on that.

(08:58):
So I don't think the Rockets are gonna win this series.
I do think they're gonna win some games. I don't
think that the Golden State Warriors are perfect. But when
you fall down every time somebody you shoot a basketball,
it's really hard in real time to decide which time
you got fouled and which time you just fell down.
When I was a kid, We used to use that

(09:19):
whole boy who cried wolf thing. Remember that. I don't
want to be the boy or god wolf. Don't be
the boy or grid wolf. If you fall down every time,
there are gonna be times you get fouled and it's
not called. But because you've cried wolf so many times,
we don't know what's real. You create an environment where
every time somebody shoots you could make deal, well, I

(09:39):
look like a foul. So the Rockets are gonna sit
there and tell you the NBA doesn't like them, that
the officiating is against them. I heard Nick right on
first things. First seven to last eight times we've matched up.
I mean I did I say we? I meant they
have matched up with the Golden State Warriors. He loves

(10:00):
the Rockets. I get it. He's to do radio in Houston.
The front office is really cool to him. He's totally
in on the style and he's over the Warriors. Got it.
The rest of us are telling you it doesn't necessarily
even have to do with we don't care about the Houston.
City of Houston. No one's sitting there going like I
don't like the city of Houston. Nobody has any sort
of feelings one way or the other against the city
of Houston. It's really hot, it's really flat, there's a

(10:25):
lot of oil and big money. It's really spread out,
and um, that's about all I have to say about Houston.
It's all I really know. I have friends that live
there and they generally like it. But it's really really
hot in the summer, like crazy, like okay, one just
one degree lesson the sun hot. That's my feelings on

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to Houston. Doesn't have anything to do with city of Houston,
the Rockets franchise, Darryl Morey. But when you act like
you're smarter than everybody, and there's parts of your style
which embodied the parts we don't like of the NBA
generally as sports fans from the past and the current era, No,
we don't really like you. Sorry, you don't get to

(11:09):
benefit of doubt when you constantly complain and constantly fall down. Hey, look,
we didn't like the Spurs either, because the Spurs never fouled,
Like really, that should be when day when when Tim
Duncan gets a statue out in front of the arena,
it should be the like the two hand like where
you used to look at refs. I got fouled. I

(11:29):
got fouled every time. Every time did you get fouled?
Sure there were fouls there, they missed them. They also
called some fowls that didn't exist. James Harden drove in,
got his shot spiked like it was a volleyball set spike.

(11:49):
There was a foul called, there wasn't one there. Nobody
mentions that it's not like you said, I shot fourteen
free throws, dude. And by the way, every time you
push off and you stick a shoulder into a guy
and and step back, you could call that an offensive foul.
I hope you do not, And you could call it
a travel when he takes the extra step back. I
probably think you should. But whatever, if we're gonna go

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letter of every law, then letter of a law is
going to be a very unwatchable game, which is what
you created with all this flopping nonsense. They've brought European
soccer to basketball, and we don't like European soccer because
we don't know what's real contact and we don't know
what's fake contact. And soccer guys, stop it. Oh, soccer

(12:31):
is more popular than it's ever been, like, okay, more
popular than it's ever been. Is still less popular than
hockey on a daily basis. World Cup obviously super popular.
But the parts that we don't like you're doing, it's
hard for us to get behind you, no matter how

(12:54):
good you are. And I think James Harden is a
remarkable town in terms of the array of offensive ability. Dude,
have you ever seen somebody guarded the way Utah guarden him?
They played behind him on his left side, like forcing
him in the lane because he's such a good three
point shooter, he's so crafty, creates so much space. You know,
he goes to his left side. There's literally no straight

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up way to guard him. But will you take away
from it because you have lack of likability, the style
you play, the parts you and body, the things that
brings up in our memory. Anytime you complain about the refs,
you come off as a whiner. And teams that are
dependent upon the officials to help them win games generally

(13:38):
aren't championship caliber teams. NBA insider Sam Amock joins the show. Uh,
the two minute report is out the Rockets Warriors Game one?
What does it tell us? What does he think it
foreshadows for the rest of the series. To be new
refs in game two sevents may or may not have
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she grew up rat with the Indiana Boys on Indiana
Doug Otlief Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio. We gotta
get to Steve Kim. Steve Kim is going with good
going a good which on many levels. I like, you know,

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but man, it's a scary place to to to see. Um.
I love people who respond to me and uh, bless him, Baker,
bless him. Baker says he's gonna well. I was. I
was on Collin Cowherd show earlier today and I was
talking about Josh Rosen and I was like, look, I

(16:56):
think Josh Rosen comes across a sympathetic figure. I do.
He handled it with class. His exit from the Arizona Cardinals.
He showed up at O t as he was the
first person in the building, last person out, did what
he was supposed to do, and they still decided to
draft Kyler Murray. And instead of going negative on social media,
he simply stopped following the Cardinals on Instagram, probably because

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he was told he was going to be traded. That
would have been awkward. The team ends up moving on.
He had nothing negative to say. Robert Klemco article said
he said, like, look, if you're gonna draft Carded Kyler,
I'll just beat him out. Fine, knowing you're not gonna
be that number one pick, I'm just not going to.
I just I want to point out that I supported
Sam Bradford wanting out of Philadelphia. Who who was it?

(17:43):
Three years ago? And the logic was Sam Bradford signed
there to be the starter, and then they drafted Carson Wentz,
and he knew, if you draft Carson Wentz that high
in the draft, he's eventually gonna start. Doesn't matter how
well you play, doesn't matter how good a leadership leadership
you exude. He just said, uh, publicly what everyone else

(18:05):
would have said privately. So I don't this has nothing
to do without Josh Rosen handling it over the weekend.
Hanlon the Plum. But there's a reason that he was
drafted tenth overall. There's the reason Josh Allen and Baker

(18:27):
Mayfield and Sam Donald went ahead of him. There's a
reason that the Redskins chose to draft Dwayne Haskins and
the Giants chose to draft Dwayne Jones instead of trading
a second round picked for Josh Rosen. Fair are unfair?
The way NFL people look at Josh rosen Is well,

(18:49):
there's actually three parts to it. One injury concerns was
injured because the end of his tennis career, and it
was his shoulder as well as injuries suffered while playing
at u C l A two. There's a leadership component.
He's just not a He's not a guy that people

(19:09):
seem to get behind or want the NFL that the
position of quarterback is. Yeah, it's about skill and reading defenses,
but it's also about getting a group of grown men
to get behind you. And he's just never been a
guy where people are like, yeah, man, I love that guy.
I want to play for that guy, and then they

(19:30):
have tape on him, and then you you wonder, however
bad the narrative is on him. It's gotta be worse
if Arizona is willing to move on, if he caused
his coach did get fired, he went through two offensive coordinators.
However much he has to own that. He has to
own it. There's a reason they're willing to give him away.

(19:51):
Gotta be so that's why he was on the market.
So I get I get tweets like this from bless
him Baker He's going to destroy these narratives, put out
the clowns a new bare minimum like you and gottleib
Okay got it. The entire NFL had a shot at

(20:17):
Josh Rosen at a at a minimal sum. The signing
bonus was paid. He's under contract, guaranteed for three more years.
He has not been injured as a pro starter. He
has one year of experience under his belt, and he
was given away, given away for a late second round pick.
That's the NFL tell you what his value is. That's

(20:40):
a depreciating asset from a number ten pick that was
thought to possibly a number one overall pick last year.
All let's turn back to the NBA. Sam Amick joins
us NBA insider for the Athletic in Uh. Sam of course,
authored a piece that's out right now on why the
Rockets b eve that they keep getting screwed by the

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refs when they play the Wars. That is that a
fair way to kind of tell the layman what they're
gonna get if they take a deep dive into your piece.
That's so dug. I don't know that screwed made its
way into the subject line of their internal memos, but
that is definitely the spirit of it. Okay, So with
that in mind, what what is the have some spoilers
for us? Okay, we won't spoil Avengers for people haven't

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seen Avengers, but you can't spoil a little bit of
your article. Why do the Rockets feel like they're getting
the bad end deficiating? So the quick backdrop I would
say is that you know, as you know, but if
listeners don't. The Rockets, by all accounts or the most
analytically minded organization in the league. They've kind of led
the way on the moneyball version of the NBA movement

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years and years ago. Darryl Morriy. Their GM is data
driven to the nth degree. And with that in mind, um,
what's so fascinating about the situation to me is that
what we have learned that I don't think we necessarily
knew for is that for a long time now they
have been studying officiating in the kind of you know, evidence,

(22:06):
data driven away that they typically study their teams, study
the opponent, and they have come to the conclusion that
specifically in this matchup with the Warriors, that they've been
getting the short end of the stick at all. The
most important moments. For quite some time, I focused on
the Conference Finals last year, and essentially here's the process.
The league, upon request, will give teams a forty eight

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minute report on their games. That is the same as
the last two minute report, which indicates which calls were
correct or missed, and that's not something that they share publicly. Also,
teams cannot get reports from other teams games. It's only
your games, and obviously you see both teams in that
one individual game. So they they audited the Conference finals

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last year and came to the conclusion that if you
go line by line and figure out, you know, where
they got screwed. To kind of steal your vernacular, they
aggrea get point total of that series was they were
minus ninety three when it comes to calls being incorrect, uh,
double digits in six out of the seven games against them,
and one game where they had a nominal edge over

(23:12):
the Warriors that was game too. So there's more on
the more meat on the bone than maps. But that
certainly is that's the flash point that last night, you
know kind of field the rays that you saw after
Game one. All right, let's get to last night, because
while I agree there were some calls missed when they
ran unto shooters. They also there were some calls gained.
Harton drives in once and gets his shots spiked, and

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he gets a couple of free throws. You know, I
thought they missed some fouls. Uh, you know, I thought
Steph Curry got got fouled several times over. I mean, there,
there's there are there are plenty that actually even out
if you only you don't only study won the last
two minutes in two the three point shooting, which one
I believe was deemed to not be a foul. I

(23:56):
hear you. I will say in general terms that the
league does not seem to be pushing back all that
hard against the idea that last night was not a
good night at the office for the office for the
rests in the Rockets direction. Um, you know, the first half,
Clay Thompson in particular could have had four fall files
at halftime and and the Rockets could have had an

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extra nine ten points. So you know, I hear you,
And I think the bigger conversation here that the more
I talked about this, the more my anterest level kind
of excused this way, is that, man, the league has
just got a really interesting question on his hands about
the approach of being transparent like they have been and
like they are and Adam Silver making that a priority

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and having the pitfalls of transparency is what I would
call it, because this is now exhibit A in how
NBA teams can weaponize the league's information against them and
come to conclusions that you know that they the league
then has to answer for because if the teams you
know that, pounter would be Wait, so we're supposed to
get the data, and then if we don't like what

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we see, we can't say anything, you know. And and
so that's the thing we didn't used to have forty
admit of reports and not to get too far in
the weed. I just told this story on a on
a podcast a minute ago, but last night I shared
this whole saga with my wife, who is not a
huge basketball fan, and what struck me was the first
response she had was, wait, people think the reps are
supposed to be perfect? Like I don't understand this, you know, Like, well,

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that's your spirit. Well I would also say this, uh,
and you tell me if this is fair. I do
think that there's and now you bring up analytics, I
think there's a bunch of things working against the rockets
where people actually don't like them, and and and stick
with me for a second, Sam Amy from the Athletic
joining me on the Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio.
What do people what do people hate about the eighties

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and nineties in the NBA? Oh? The old ice ball right,
one guy with the ball, the rest of the that's
the old And and the excessive traveling. Whether it's worse
now or better now, it doesn't even matter. It's just
that idea has always been the anti NBA guys like,
well they just go is so and they travel all
the time, and then what are they what? What do
what do people dislike about new end age n b

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A The overuse of analytics, shooting a ton of threes
and throwing your head back and acting like you got
fouled every time you drive to the basket, and and
getting some of those calls, and the constant falling down.
And I think they actually embody parts of old generation
and new generation NBA that people don't like. And I

(26:27):
don't think that. I just don't think that the general
public is sitting there feeling bad for them as they
would for other teams that maybe didn't get the fair
end of a whistle. No, I don't disagree with you
at all about the way all of this stuff hits
the fans. I joked with somebody last night that it
takes a special type of effort to make the Warriors likable,

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and last night's events, I think for some fans who
might have been on the fence did that. And I
think the Rockets perspective here is because of their level
of competitiveness and the you know, the heartache of the
conference finals last year, and the general ideas that they
think that they are worthy of being champions in this league.
They you know, they've clearly decided that they're going to

(27:10):
focus more on sending a message to the NBA and
the official that yes, we expect you to officiate the
same exact way you did in the regular season. Uh,
and you can't change the rules now because you have
This is another one of their assertions is that older referees,
more experienced referees, are less willing to call the specifically
in three point shots in the whole landing space debate,

(27:31):
that they won't call it consistently the way the younger
refs to that the younger refs are more on board
with the you know, the quote unquote new protocol, So
they just they're trying to stew the officiating in this series.
That's clearly where their heads are at with the comments
that Mike named Tony made after the game. But you
know James Harden being on board with all the same
talking points. You know when they when they kind of

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out the refs and say that they by the way,
at halftime, they told us that they missed four threes.
You know, that's the kind of stuff that they're hoping
going forward ends up helping them when it comes to
the rest. Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
how likely do you think they are to win this series? Um?
It's man, I don't know how to handicap it because

(28:14):
last night, the idea that they were right there given
everything that went on that you know, James being nine, um,
you know, play Capella being a non factor, you know,
all the different things they struggled with. They they're just
a hell of a team. So I think it's gonna
be a long series. I'm not gonna get two wrapped
up in the psychological aspect in terms of like you know,

(28:36):
like I know that some of the Warriors. People feel
like this is this whole thing is an indictment on
the Rockets ethos, and it reveals that the Rockets don't
truly believe they can beat the Warriors. There are people
with the Warriors who that's how this all hits them.
But it's like that, I get that. But then guess
what Game two might come along and they might smack
the Warriors in the face. I think that's still possible. Um,

(28:58):
seems like a different Kevin Durant since the I'm Kevin Durant.
Ran sure fair, Oh yeah, I just it's one of
those I thought, and maybe I was premature in calling it,
but I've thought that the finals two years ago were
the were the first. Okay, I think he's the best

(29:18):
player in the league now because he was better than
Lebron in the second half last year. Was hard just
because they didn't It wasn't it wasn't really a fair fight,
and you know the j R. Smith thing. Um, But
that's really what this that's what this is, right. This
is a coronation of a guy who might have been
the best player in the league all year long, or
the most talented guy in the league all year long.
I didn't have the best season, but that feels like

(29:40):
that's what this run essentially says it does. And so
I mean, listen to the way that he got into
this is so interesting because he was in playmaking mode.
But it was he was in you know, early on
in the Clipper series, and he was in playmaking modes
to such a degree that you, I mean, there's such
a weird vibe around the team that you had people
around the team that we're kind of trying to figure

(30:02):
out what it all meant. Is it playmaking mode because
that's what's best for the team in the game, or
is he is he kind of being Is it almost
like the old days when guys who just choose not
to shoot because they were mad, you know, and it
was it It gets back him and that whole thing
that drives him nuts, which is people trying to read
his mind. So he ended up clipping a switch telling
the media that I'm Kevin Durant. You'll know who I am,

(30:22):
and he's been that guy done it Also though, underscores
to me, Doug, like, if we flash forward to free
agency and the whole discussion about what might he do
and what might his motivations be as you know, the
whole thing has been does he want to be you
know the guy you know the indisputibuy alpha male, whichever
team he's on, and not have to share that spotlighte

(30:44):
and do it by himself, so to speak. And last
night at Oracle, you know, it's funny the Warriors fans
lately have taken to giving m v P chance to
both Steph and Kevin, which I don't remember happening during
the regular season. And what makes me kind of chuckle
is like if you pulled out one of those decibel
you know, test machines, I would love to know like

(31:05):
the numbers on the m v P chance because it's
it's a real m v P chance for Kevin. But
the whole bathtrop is it's never as loud as the
one for step Yeah. But but but but we also
we can't take those m v P chans. Blake Griffin
was at the line and they're playing in the playoffs
and I was hearing the m v P chan there,
like that is the most But but it's more the
ideas fans. Yeah, I mean that's these players do care

(31:28):
what the fans think, and I think it's an idea
that if you're him and you just kind of feel like, man,
I could be out here being better than Michael Jordan
for the next five years and these fans are never
going to truly appreciate who I am. If that is,
in fact anything close to how he thinks, then you
start to understand why he might go elsewhere. You pointed
out that the officiating is not the same regular season

(31:49):
to postseason, But isn't that really in a nutshell what
we learned about the Bucks, like Brook Lopez regular season
incredible addition to that team. Postseason didn't look like he
was ready for that moment, as as you can say
for many of the Milwaukee Bucks. Is that what was
on display against the Celtics yesterday, it seems to be
the case. Admittedly, I need to go back and watch

(32:11):
that game closer. Uh, you know, I had it on.
I was dealing with Warriors rocket stuff. But you know
Brooks line was I was gonna say fantastic, was was awful? Um,
Brooke was bad? You know, y honest. It's so just
kind of it's it's so so dominant all years to
see and struggle like that, it's incredible. I think the
conversation with the Bucks, and I think it's fair immediately

(32:33):
goes to Mike Budenholz during the fact that very well
my wind Coach of the Year assistant he put in
place with those guys was just so perfect for the
talent that they had. But it's immediately gonna now raise
questions about, all right, when when you had the Hawks
teams with a pretty good amount of talent. You know,
one of those teams won sixty games in the regular season.
You know, he got to the conference finals one year,

(32:54):
but bounced in the first round a couple of other
years in the second round of fourth year. So Mike's
uh playoff resume, I think is front and center at
the moment. And then you know, conversely, you know you
see the other side. I mean, they just they took
it to him. So Milwaukee's in trouble and Boston. It's
just insane how we can talk all year long about

(33:14):
the roller coaster they were on and what kind of
headspace are they going to be in when it's late April,
early May, and right now, I mean they're looking like
a team that might be doing this thing until June.
Last thing, you also have a piece inside the magic post.
Magic Lakers and why Jennie Buss believes Rob Lincoln can
rescue the Lebron James era. Weren't we just hearing two

(33:35):
weeks ago that NBA g ms don't want to do
business with him because of his agent past, Like how
how will this in fact work from their perspectives? And
there's just I mean, obviously there's no assurances whatsoever that
it will. The thing that I attempted to get into
in that story, and I did kind of enjoy putting
it together, is I'm a sucker for explaining, not excusing,

(33:55):
if that makes any sense, Like, like you don't even
have to take a side, Like you gotta at least
understand that if anybody is confused about Genie Buss's loyalty
to Rob Oblinka in light of everything that has happened,
you cannot forget that he is essentially Kobe Bryant by proxy.
Like that tie in between Rob and Kobe is so tight.

(34:17):
And you know, if you go back to October, I
wrote a story about you know, Jeanie had had told
that a tale of how Kobe was the one who
she met with when she decided to fire Jim Buss
and Miss Cup check. Kobe was the one who who
basically told her, and he put it in Game of Thrones,
you know terms just as Kobe is and this Hollywood
version that he is, that you've got to go for
the kill. And and he still has a voice within

(34:38):
that organization, he just doesn't have a title. And so
she's not coming off that approach that you know, it's
it's going to have a lot of Lakers ties to management.
Hurt Rambis Linda Rambus are now intimately involved in the
inner circle, and uh, you know that's just the way
they're rolling with it right now. I mean, I continued
to hear that there might have been kind of a
you know, a clandestine search for higher level executive, a

(35:01):
big time name that maybe they try to bring to town,
and um, you know, I wouldn't completely roll that out
going forward, but it does seem like Rob's running the
show and they're gonna try to get this thing back
in the right direction. Enjoy the NBA Playoffs, doing a
great job. Thanks much for joining us and uh and
giving us your unique perspective. Really appreciate Sam sam immg
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game time tide on the Doug Gottlieb Show. By when
I got my friend Doug. The game today is big deal,

(37:49):
little deal, no deal? Alright, big deal, little deal or
no deal. That the league's last two minute reports shows
that referees missed not one, but two calls that should
have been on Steph Curry. Then the final seventy seconds
of yesterday's game that would have had Curry foul out
and give Rockets and to give the Rockets possession of
the basketball. So Steph Curry had seven fouls apparently Yeah,

(38:11):
but there was one which was like it was right
before the Chris um for the Chris Paul technical foul.
It was just a wild play like that. That's the
problem is there's not a lot of context in it,
you know. And here's the other part to that, to
this deal is like every if if you call fouls
earlier on in the game, those same fouls would likely

(38:34):
not have occurred later in the game, you know what
I mean? Like, I just I don't. I think. I
think the intent of the two man report is a
good one, I really do, But I think, um, I
think how it's actually used. Not even I anticipated this
more than Avengers coming out. I wanted to see this
two minute report and revealed a lot, and it revealed

(38:56):
that Chris Paul touched a referee. I think there's a
decision for the NBA to make four game too big deal,
a little thing. What do you think that should do? Well,
it's a suspension if you make contact with an official.
I know what it's. I know, by by the letter
of the law what it is. I'm saying, what do
you think they should Yeah, I think he should be
suspended for game too. I don't. I just I'm like, yeah,

(39:19):
normally we just spend You're like, yeah, you know, I mean, hell,
he's probably gonna get hurt because he's seriously over for
giving him a game arrest. Maybe the Rockets do on
them suspended. Big deal, A little dealer, no deal that
the Bucks looked like a deer in headlights in Game
one of the Eastern Semis against Boston. Geah, you ma
belle pizza, get him bed. I think it's a big deal.

(39:45):
You know, I don't think one game is a big
deal for most teams. But when you were beaten by
this team in the playoffs, and everybody said a little
bit of matt matchup issue and then you you, you,
you wet the bed a little bit. Um. Look, if
I'm the Celtics, I I should not be comfortable with
just winning one game. You know, they have been great
at home at all times. They lost Game seven at

(40:06):
home last year to the Cleveland Cavaliers. I game two,
I go for the jugular. But I think it's a
big deal that the Bucks gave away in a Thanos
sort of way, gave away home court advantage like that,
totally totally Thos. Big deal, A little deal or no
deal that Seahawks wide receiver Doug Baldwin is considering retirement
because of injuries. It seems like a big deal. He's

(40:27):
the favorite target of the highest paid player in the
Nation Football League. That seems like a really big deal,
big deal, little deal or no deal. That the Buccaneers
took a placekicker in the draft for the second time
in four years, Roberto Orguayo, a second rounder a few
years back, this time Matt Gay kicker out of Utah
in the fifth round. Um seems like a big deal, right,

(40:47):
just does like what are we doing here? Everybody else
gets to his free agents Buccaneers like, nah, we didn't
learn our lesson. That seems like a big It seems
like a big deal, big deal, a little deal or
no deal that no one wants to hear spoilers for
the Avengers movie, but no one had a problem revealing
what happened last night on Twitter exactly exactly, a big deal,
a little deal or no deal. It's a little deal

(41:09):
because it's Twitter Twitter. It's not not as big as everybody.
I don't watch Game of Thrones. It's a show that
I would like to at some point, But now I
know something exactly. I know, yeah, I know what happened
because I've seen so many memes. Yes, and I thought
it was absurd. I did too. This is game time

(41:29):
on the Duck Gotli Show. I don't know if your
dad was like this. My dad used to tape think
take games at home, you know, like Sunday be coaching
basketb like walking into the gym. Don't anybody tell me
what happened with the Lakers in the Celtics. Okay, don't
everybody and somebody come in and go like, I can't
be the Lakers won that game? What are you doing?
Do you know people are taping the game? They relax,

(41:51):
take a breath. You know you got on your phone. Sorry,
everybody else gets in real time. I told you to
turn the VCR off before you left. You turn on
and we had to press the button to turn it on.
Don't don't forget to push the button down button now
and then you had DVR, but you didn't do the
record the next show and it would cut off for

(42:11):
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join us for an hour. We'll talk about the NFL Draft.

(42:52):
We'll talk about what I think was the biggest, biggest
story for the upcoming season. What happened I would say
this weekend the National Football League. It has nothing to
do with the draft. But let me let me first
start with the number one overall picked, the Arizona Cardinals.
I feel like we have talked about it more than
anybody else has talked about it before other people talked
about it. I was the first one going back to
November telling you, Calumber, you play football, not basketball, not baseball,

(43:16):
because in baseball you're not really you're getting paid, but
you're not really a pro until you make it to
the bigs. And even that, everyone talks about the big
payday in baseball, but that's ten guys, and that's five, six,
seven years away. Whereas in football, you get drafted the
first round draft pick, you're a professional starting quarterback in

(43:36):
the first year. Look at last year in the NFL. Additionally,
we look at the Arizona Cardinals, and what I told
you last year was everyone I had spoken to about
Josh Rosen everyone said the exact same. Come some swhere,
similar part of the man. He looks good, gosh, he
throws a good ball. Man, he does the progressions like

(43:57):
what kind of guys like the bad guy? No, no, no, no,
not a bad guy. Do you love him? And pointed
out the difference in Sam Donald, who very much uh
he was. He wasn't as advanced in terms of his
quarterbacking play, but as a dude, everybody loves Sam Donald.

(44:18):
Some of it is as easy as where they let
where they grew up in southern California. Donald from San Clemente,
which is like the last outpost before you hit uh
Santa No Free and old nuclear power plant people are
from Sant clement A. It's a laid back beach community,
but not some ritchie ritzy beach community people moved to
Manhattan Beach like two Ivy League parents that that Josh

(44:42):
Rosen has, whether it's arrogance or entitlement or just a
lack of ability to stand in front of a room
and lead in addition to the fact he has injuries
in his past. Dude, just don't love Josh Rosen. And
so the Cardinals moved on. But then he got Steve Kim,
who's sitting there tell on you, well, this better work. Right.

(45:03):
He spent thirty three million dollars on three quarterbacks last
year and got rid of his entire coaching staff that
he picked all in one year, and now he's got
a whole new master plan. I saw this Peter King's
column this morning. King turned to Steve Kim and he

(45:25):
asked him, did you seriously weigh the alternative of keeping
Rosen and saying, sorry, Cliff, I'm not giving you your guy.
Listen to this quote from Steve come absolutely, that's my job.
All spring. Your mind races with a difference with different scenarios.
At the end of the day, you had to look
and say, what's really going to catapult us into being different.

(45:47):
I've always been a visual guy. I've always had success
evaluating quarterbacks when I trusted my instincts and my gut.
I've missed on the guys that looked the parts, smelled apart.
You tried to invent and because of all the things
were that connected the dots, you scouted them and said, Okay,
they're gonna be a player because they look like this.
I'm not saying that's Josh Rosen. I'm saying that I

(46:10):
had real success. My real success guys I've loved that
have gone to on to be great NFL players based
on instinct. When I closed my eyes, I visualized Kyler
Murray running around State Farm Stadium in red and white,
and for whatever reason, I saw just fireworks, excitement, a
mussy environment where fans have to go and show up
and see this thing. Him being the architect was phenomenal

(46:31):
fit for me. Yeah, I'm not sure I love that.
One running around is not how I visualize a franchise quarterback,
even one that can run like like Kyler Murray and
fireworks and excitement. Generally, you want to put butts in
the seats when football games. That's the most fireworks, excitement
you're gonna see. Let's bring in Brian Baldinger, who's gonna

(46:54):
join us, of course, from the NFL Network and from
Twitter Fame. Baldi's breakdown, former NFL player in his own
right and analyzes games for Fox for Compass Media Networks. Baldi,
let let me start with what you what I just
quoted from Steve conn and you're you're you're a general
manager saying, like going on gut on this one. I
I visualize fireworks and excitement. Does that make you more

(47:18):
or less prone to be behind this move? I'm behind
the move, I am, and I don't think it was
you know, I think some of it is getting cleared
up now about how this whole thing played out. It
wasn't Cliff Kingsbury walking into Steve's office going I need
Kyler Murray to get this thing started. I mean, it
just wasn't that. So now we're kind of finding out
that Cliff really didn't make any demands, Like Steve, you

(47:38):
do your job. My job is to fix the offense.
I think I have some ideas that can fix. I
happen to like Cliff a lot as a coordinator. Um
the head coaching thing could be a little big um.
Sean McVeigh has Wade Phillips, that's a huge advantage. He's
got Amar Chromer coach in the offense line. But you
know they're looking for that type of guy and Cliff,
you look at his ideas and what he's done it.

(47:59):
I mean, gott to score fifty to have a chance
against Oklahoma TCU. So that's what they did. They were
the number one, two or three offense every year that
he was there. But that being said, I do think
that this is gonna be exciting and I can't wait
to actually watch it unfold. Now could it just completely
implode all that can be? Like he's a young kid,

(48:20):
you know, he's really one year of starting in Kyler Murray,
but he is a dynamic player. And Steve told you, like, look,
he wanted to draft Nick Boza, he wanted to draft
Quinny Williams, but he couldn't keep he couldn't stop watching
Kyler Murray. And that's really what happened to a lot
of us. You said, Kyla Murs should play football. And
after the first Texas Oh you game the Red Rivel

(48:41):
Rovalry in October, when I watched that game, I said,
if I was a general manager, what round would I
draft Kyler Murray? And knowing he's going to play baseball?
And I started asking guys around the league, you know,
down the field before games, like what would you do
with Kyler? You spent a fifth round pick on him
six and just hold his rights? And then when he
made the decision, it just made sense to me. I fotball.
He was amazing that the Red River rivalry, They're down

(49:03):
three touchdowns and then all of a sudden, they were,
all of a sudden they were You're like, why because
of one guy? Like Um? All right, there's there's a
lot to unpack here. Let's let's start with the size
and and it's it's not one thing. It's it is
spitting in the wind of in the in the face
of all conventional wisdom. Right, he's small, he runs a lot.
Guys that run a lot, seemed to get it, seemed

(49:24):
to get hurt, seemed to get hit. Um. And then
the offensive, it's the air raid offense, or some NFL
version of the air raid offense. We haven't seen that work,
or at least we haven't seen necessarily play out in
the NFL. So what we're and they had a terrible
you and I did a game where Josh Ro's had
no time to throw against the charges none. So, and
they really spend a ton of money or a ton

(49:46):
of draft picks because they spend on Kyle Murray and
they spent it moving up last year in the draft
on on an offensive line. Do you think this works
because it does, spit in the face of convention wisdom.
It does. But you know, the the NFL can only
take what the college game gives you. I thought Kyler
Murray was the best quarterback in the country. I mean
so and he and he's coming out, so we can
only take if there's coming out of Lincoln Riley's system

(50:08):
or it's coming out of Cliff Kingsbury system, whatever, that
that's what we get. So we're seeing quarterbacks that play
one year, you know. I mean we we saw two
years ago with you know, with Mitch Drobiski, we saw
a one year starter. But so that's kind of what
we're given. Um So that's but and then the size,
like he doesn't get balls batted down, Um he is.

(50:29):
If you if you just start with this concept of Okay,
they drafted three receivers and you've got, you know, you've
got maybe the best out there in the game, you know,
in Larry Fitzgerald, and you've got a young kid that
they draft out of Texas A and Christian Kirk. So
I mean, let's just say you line up with four
receivers and and David Johnson the backfield with Kyler Murray.

(50:49):
Like right now you have to defend six. You have
to defend six. Now we're gonna do it, man zone,
how are you gonna do it? Six guys are gonna
be You have to account for every single play, so
that already limits a lot of things you can do.
You can't play two high safeties. You're gonna have to
play one. You're gonna have to drop down. You're gonna
be a man coverage. And are you gonna spy Coler Murray?
Because that never works? So, I mean a lot of

(51:10):
his runs last year were the last option. And if
you've got Hollywood Brown or Ceedee Lamb just flying down
the field, like all the space just gets created for
him to run underneath. And they did a lot of that.
So you're gonna see some of those concepts. All right,
Let's get to Josh Rosen. He does come across the
sympathetic figure. Uh he handled it. I mean as well
like I love when I read now. He went to

(51:33):
letters I game, he posted thing. He also Robert Klemco
had him Quota is saying like, hey, I'll stay, I'll
compete like you go, let's go. And they were like, no,
we know how that that plays out. Um, But you
and I also talked to him, and he does. He
has he has this thing where he says all the
things that you want somebody to say. There's something that
there's something about it where you're like, I don't know,

(51:55):
I don't I didn't feel like we walked away. Coach
killed him at U C l A and Jim Moore
you know, said things about him. You know, but but okay,
the juxtaposition of that and for people wh don't know,
when Brian Baldinger does a game, you go and do
Baldic's walk, and you walk in the field and everybody
knows you and you talk to everybody, right, and when
you go up and you talk to Matt Ryan or
Mitch Drobiski or any almost anybody. I mean, maybe Rogers

(52:17):
would be the only one who can be he can
do that kind of the same kind of prickly little
thing whatever. But most of them you have a conversation
to be like, man, are we best friends? Suld we
exchange text messages? Right, And Josh just just doesn't have
that way about him there. It's fair. But I mean,
like when I was watching him going back and looking
through this whole process, like what did we miss last year?

(52:39):
Like you got sacked forty five times, like once every
eight and a half times. You dropped back in the
week seventeen against Seattle, Frank Clark in that group, they
just they destroyed him. It was a car accident out there.
Play after play. I never heard a guy complain. He
never got hurt. They still almost won that game, by
the way, that was the weird thing in the fourth quarter. Yeah,
but they also they kind of just let Seattle win

(53:00):
a game. That was a weird plan for the number
one for the for the draft pick at the end
of the game. Right, So look, I mean but you
watch him, you go, you see like nobody can doubt
his toughness, okay, nobody, Like the offense was horrible, just
I mean, the didn't have anybody and so you go
then you go, okay, well, what was Alex Smith, Like
when he was the first pick in the draft, he
was terrible, me to one touchdown, eleven interceptions. His rookie here,

(53:22):
Troy and some of these guys, Jared Gofflin, these guys
are just terrible their first year. It takes him a
year and it takes the team a year to either
figure it out, change the coaches. They did that in
San Francisco. You know, they fired a coach after a year.
So like, I just think I would have. I can't
wait to see Josh in Miami with Brian Floores and
you know, all the guys he's got coming in there
and just let him go compete. Like, look, I know

(53:45):
Ryan Fitzpatrick's on his eight team team whatever it is,
and he'll give you a few games. But Josh Rosen
is gonna get in there, and I can't wait to
see what he does with the second act. Brian Balding
are going to continue join us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. To me, all of this is burying the lead.
All this is being leader. The Rosen and Calamari like,
oh that's great. It happened on Thursday, right before the draft.

(54:08):
Coming up next. I want to I want to discuss
the Kansas City Chiefs. You lose your running back last year.
You lose Tyreek Hill. We think probably forever based upon
the tape that came out on Thursday. As good as
Pat Mahomes is canny would stand these two massive, massive losses.
Plus we're gonna get to the rest of the draft,
and are we buying what Dave Gentleman is selling that's

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If you have a question, hit us up on Twitter
at Gottlieb Show or at Baldy NFL and we'll we'll
ask Brian Baldinger. Let's to me the biggest story of
the weekend. And it's not John Elway drafting another quarterback.
It's not Daniel Jones going to the Giants. These are
all big stories. But Tyreek Hill is arguably the most

(55:38):
dangerous playmaker in the National Football League, playing well, having
played with the most explosive offense the nash Football League.
And I would guess he's not gonna play for the
Kanci Chiefs anymore. He might not play in the NFL. Ever, Again,
how how does how does this affect the Chiefs? Well
affects them. I mean, you know their first pick was
Murk Coole Hardman, you know, from Georgia. I mean, we

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can just flat out fly. And I don't think he's
Tyreek Hill fast, but he can run. So they already
drafted his replacement. I mean, I think they they sent
a loud, clear message that were prepared to deal with
this just the way they dealt with Kareem Hunt last year.
The running game really didn't suffer. Damian Williams came in
and played. I mean, any read can just find players
and he knows what he wants to do. He's still

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got Travis Kelsey. They've got the league m v P.
Like I look, but you know, the New England Patriots
figured out how to take Tyreek Hill out of the
game like nobody else did. But they did, and they
suffered his result. I couldn't score point in the first half.
But I think, you know, this replacement from George is
probably gonna be that guy. But I mean, you're talking
about a guy who they were just ready to pay

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him twenty million dollars a year, like the contractors. It
was just it was it wasn't just dry yet. I mean,
but they're drawing it up, I know, which which brings
me to I understand that you you can they were
able to replace you know, running backs and are able
to replace burners, but they're there as a team that
production did suffer when they when they change running backs

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as a team, that production will like does this change
your thoughts that they could win a Super Bowl? H?
I get to a Super Bowl. I gotta get Yeah,
it does. I mean, because he was the most feared
player in the league from the standpoint of on any
given play, he truly can just make you look bad.
I mean, nobody else in this whole league can run
like that. I know we if we were if we

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were pulled, we would always we would all say he
shouldn't get another opportunity, right, Like we're human beings. The
three year old kid we're talking about, and this is
not his first offense, even if the NFL can't look
at it that way because of what happened at Oklahoma States.
But do you think Tyreek Hill will get another opportunity?
I don't know, because I don't know how this is
gonna play out. I mean this is I mean, I

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don't know if he's gonna be able to walk to streets.
I mean, this might be something that you do time for.
Like you know, this all has to get vetted, and
all we have is some audio, so we don't you know,
we don't know exactly if it was edited or you
know when we don't know too much yet outside of
what we heard it. It's te rble um. But this
is I mean, this is sounds very offensive, like it's

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gonna be hard, Like I can't believe they traded for
Frank Clark. And look, I understand what happened with Frank Clark.
You're going back to when he was before he was drafted,
when it was when he was in college. But but like, look,
you run the risk of like, all right, we were
and he's that uncle that you know everybody. He wants
to give everybody a chance, and sometimes you just have to.

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You gotta just stop. I mean, if it's backfires, you know,
I mean, if this happens to Tyreek, ever happened to
Kareem Hunt and if something happens to Frank Clark and
got you know, God forbid, Like he's ben clean and
hadn't had any issues. But a great player. He's a
better player the d Ford. I mean, they got a
better player, but the but usually there is just no
second chances here. Brian Baldinger joined us in the doug

(58:52):
Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Trading. All right, let's
get to the biggest other stories of the draft. Dave
Gettlman has said, three years then you can judge me. Right,
you're a dukie, Right, so you've seen you've actually seen
and evaluated, not just film, but you know all about
Daniel Jones. Do you like what the Giants did? Well,

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it's hard for me to dispute what Dave Gettelman has
said for the last three days since he made the pick.
I mean, he sat in meetings with David cut Cliff,
He's been to the Senior Bowl. He's been in these
meetings with this kid. He's been around Eli Manning and
Phil Sims. He's been around guys that couldn't play Dave Brown.
I mean, he's been around a lot of different players.

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So he's been to eight Super Bowls, he's been around
Jim kuntil he knows what he's looking for. So if
he says regardless of a less than sixty completion percentage
at Duke, or despite the fact that he couldn't win
half his games or anything at Duke, like, if he says,
it's the guy, it's hard for me to say Dave
Gettlman is crazy. But at the same time, I mean,

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you've pulled a bunch of different people. Half of them
tell you one thing happened, tell you that, right, So
he is going to get an advantage of being in
a room every day with Eli Manning, it's gonna be
an advantage. But here's my issue. My issue isn't even
drafting Daniel Jones, because I believe, look, if you said,
right now, Baldie, would you give up the entire draft,

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all ten selections of the York Giants for Patrick Mahomes,
You do it in a second. So if you're gonna
get that, like you don't even think about it. And
if Kyler Murray becomes Baker Mayfield or Patrick Mahomes, you
don't even think about these moves of the coaching change.
So that's just how valuable these guys are. My problem
is if you're truly committed to Eli Manning the way

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you said you were last year and the way you
have said this year, then go help Eli Manning, Like,
go give him a right tackle, Go give him a
wide receiver. Yeah, but like listen, what you say and
what you can actually do are two very very different things.
Like we've seen what happens when you uh in the
media across Eli Manning and you say you're not all
in on Eli man right, You're you're out of a jail.

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So but they needed to find a replacement, I think
none of it matters if he can play well. I mean,
one thing about Eli is he never gets hurt. No,
but camp can you play anymore? Well, I'm just saying,
like Philip Rivers never gets hurt, and you know they've
they've they're not drafting his replacement. They're not drafting replacements
of Pittsburgh, not with the six pick. I mean they
have quarterbacks there, but I mean I don't know if

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people could spot Mason Rudolph walking down you know, the
confluence there in Pittsburgh, Like I doubt it, but I
mean they've got guys there, but not the six pick. Well,
I guess are My thing is his insistence that well
he could sit for a couple of years or in
this era in the NFL, where hey, the old days
of sitting a guy you don't do now because you

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benefit from playing a young guy because you can surround
him with more town because he's not making a lot
of money. Everybody else is gonna play early, Dave Gentleman,
is he is zigging when everyone else is there? Well,
I mean, look, if the Giants have their bye week
week eleven, they play the Jets in week ten, they
have a bye week, so they're gonna have ten games
before they it to the bye. I mean, if they're
three and seven and you got it and you've just

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played the Jets, and who knows what happens in that game,
but give you loose to the Jets and you're three
and seven, now, I mean, who knows. Maybe they're seven
and three, but if they're three and seven, it's gonna
be hard to tell any part of your fan base
that we're staying with Eli justa I mean, you know
we've seen that play out, like you can say all
those things right now. In April I saw it with
Carlson Wentz in Philadelphia, and a week before the season

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they traded Sam you know, Sam Bradford. So all that
stuff is just talk right now. Brian Baldinger, John Is,
Doug Gotli show Fox Sports Trade. You can see Baldi
on the NFL Network calling games for Fox. Of course,
follow him on Twitter as well for the bald for
Baldi's breakdowns. Um, let's go to the to the to
the San Francisco for you. Now, they went and got
Nick Bos who most people think of even in a

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loaded draft of pass rushers, he might be the best. Um.
And then of course you mentioned d Ford you thought,
you think that Can't City got a better player in
Frank Clark than D four, but he's also part of
the a fix to that defensive line. They're gonna get
Jimmy Garoppolo off off of injury. What do you think
of the Niners now that they completed both free and
see the draft and Garoppolo? I think they are an

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immensely better team. Immensely better team. I mean, the one
thing last year is they were at the very bottom.
I mean, the stats can tell you a lot of
different things, but if you're last in the league in
turnover ratio, you're you're gonna be a losing team. They
couldn't take the ball away, and I've never seen the
team fumble the ball the way the forty Niners did.
Punters fumbled it, quarterbacks fumbled it running. I mean everybody
fumbled the ball and they couldn't take it away. I mean,

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if you put d Ford and Nick Boza and Deforres
Buckner out there, like you're gonna create some takeaways, Richard
Sherman is gonna get some. I mean, they're gonna get some.
So and if I like Deebo Samuel, you know I
like Jalen heard a lot out of Baylor. Uh what
do you did at Tennessee. I mean, I think you
give those guys to Kyle Shanahan. I know this, that
guy can design offense like with the best of him.

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He's a great play caller and he can design offense.
I mean, nobody thought George Kittle could be this player
that he is. But that's a big part of the
design of the offense. So I think that they're a
much better team they should be. I think the forty
Niners and Rams are gonna be great theater. The coaches
that I mean, we're in the same play he's the
same offense, and they're they're gonna throw the ball down

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Show rose on Fox Sports Radio, Brian Baldinger alongside. All Right,
so we've gotten to it. We got into the Cardinals,
We've done a little Dolphins, we got into the Giants.
Let's get to the Raiders. Because you had Mike Mayok

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who everyone was focused on. Hey, this is his draft,
and John Gridden said, it's his draft. What do you
think what the Raiders did? I loved what the Raiders
did despite some of the criticism I've heard out there.
I think they were just I thought they were eight
for eight in the first eight picks. I mean right
down the line, you go right through the line of guys.
I mean you start with with what they did it
for with Cleveland Farrell. I mean the one part that

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people would lose sight of. Unfortunately, Mike Mayak doesn't fall
into this trap. But like, if you're watching Clemson, it's
kind of hard to just look at one guy. You're
looking at Wilkins, You're looking at Lawrence, You're looking at Bryant,
You're looking at Trayvon Mullen, You're looking at all these guys.
It's hard to just go. Let me just watch Cleveland Farrell.
Let me watch this guy's line up straight games, had

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fifty tackle for losses, twenty seven sacks. Let me just
watch him because they're like Paul Gunther is a defense
coordinator there, and he's a pure four three guy. He
wants guys that have had their hand to dirt there,
a pure end. They they've been defensive end since the
day that guy started forty four straight games. He's son
of military parents. Like he's the discipline, hard working kid.

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It's hard to say that at four he's not worth
the value. Like I think he could be Channel Jones,
you know, I I you could put him up his
cops up against a lot of different really good players
in this league and he stacks up next to him.
But but did they? And I do think that the
the big change in the Raiders draft this year was
they took high character dudes right. Last year they did.

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Last year they did not in several different spots, and
and some of it came back to bite them where
they had guys that had something against him whereas he
valued it. But at four, when you had other first
round picks, what was well, they had no ends. First
of all, they're lining up before Thursday. They had no ends.
Arden Key was a guy that you're talking about like
some issues. I mean, they had nobody that could come

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off the ends. He had defensive tackles, um you know,
I mean Mohurst, I mean whatever. But they had no
ends on that team. And there were four three team
So go get yourself what you think is the best
end in the game. Well, I mean maybe Boza was
rated higher, but he was gonna be there. So Josh
Allen is is really an outside linebacker that yeah, and
that's what he was in Kentucky. Now you know, maybe

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he becomes, you know, a pure defensive end in Jacksonville.
At me, we'll see how they use him. I mean,
Cleveland Farrell is a pure defensive van. Josh Jacobs, they
told Josh Jacobs looked the kid at two fifty stops
on his body like he's he's a brand new set
of tires, and he played big and big games. And
that's how Mike was looking at these guys. How they

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play in big games? Do what kind of character do
they have? And do they walk around all day saying
they love football? Like I know their safety Jonathan Abram,
he was over on network. I love the kid and
you can't if he walked in the door right now, Doug,
he'd be chest bumping you like he's he's He's on
all the time, and he will strike anything that moves

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like that. You can't find guys that can tackle. Nobody
works on tackling at the college NFL level. You better
find some guys that know how to tackle. And that
guy knows how to tackle. Green Bay Packers went out
and got Rashaun Gary, got Darnielle Savage as well. There
are thoughts that this is a much more dynamic defense,
something that they have not had. Are you buying that? Yeah? Well,
I mean, look, I mean I like Mike Petton. Mike

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Patton is a smart guy, knew his dad in Philadelphia
all time, winning his coach in the city of Philadelphia,
CB West. I mean he came out of like he's
a football guy, and I like Mike and he's very
creative with him and Rex did along the way. So
you you now give him Preston Smith, you give him
to Darius Smith, you give him Rashaan Gary, and you
can plug these guys up and down the line of scrimmage.

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Um Rashan Gary played in Don Brown's system at Michigan
with a bad shoulder this year, and they play the
read option. They're not gonna get beaked by quarterbacks that
are scrambling, and so you're just you're basically sitting you wait. Now.
It led to a lot of unproductive days. But I
think if you take a kid who's six ft five
and he's two hundred eighty five pounds and he runs

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fast does and you said just go get the quarterback,
I think he's gonna learn how to do it. You know.
And you can't find safeties. But sixteen safeties got drafted
this year. I think it's a record number. I mean,
I haven't researched it, but sixteen safeties got drafted. Like
everybody's playing three safeties. You know, the Eagles play Malcolm
Jenkins is a safety, but he's a linebacker. For him
everybody's playing three in the red zone third downs. You

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can't get enough safeties on the field right now to cover,
to tackle, to blitz. And that's the league right now.
It's it's like, um, I think we said the story
game this year, but it's becoming positionless football. You know
who told us that? You remember? I think I did know?
Josh Rosen told us that. Did You and Josh Rosen
had a great discussion about it, and he and because
I asked him as Brian Baldinger, uh, it's Doug Brian

(01:10:43):
Ballingdinger enjoying me Doug out the show Fox Sports Radio.
I asked him the proverbial, like, hey, what's everybody says
speed like that the biggest difference in the NFL. And
he's like, no, he said, honestly, body type. He said
that you have to identify based upon numbers, because very
he's kind of six D. The Golden State Warriors, that's

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what they are. Well, that's that's where basketball and football
have become the same. Right, you used to find you
used to try and find the mismatches Marshall falk On
a linebacker, right, but now you get linebackers like the
kid L L s U. They can really really run.
So the list of the mismatches is less pronounced. That's
the idea behind it, right, I mean Devin White, I
mean there's no calm for this kid, you know from
L s U. He went to Tampa Like I thought

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he was the best player in the draft. Like we
have never seen a middle linebacker that way pounds that
ran a four four. I mean Dick Buckets ran a
five flat forty. We're down to it, like ray Lewis
ran a four six eight eight. I mean we're down
to four four. Like we're gonna find middle linebackers in
the next five years. They're gonna be in the four threes.
And it's these impacts and this ability to just cover

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the whole field sideline to sideline as they spread the
teams out, Like that's what they're looking for. Can you
help me out with Baltimore? I actually like the Miles
boy can rap because he's so big, But for the
same reason I hate the Marquis round Hollywood Brown pick,
Like here's the guy that's I You're not gonna get
a volume of throws there, and unless he's playing with
a fishing net, I don't know how I mean I guess,

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I guess. I look, Lamar Jackson can throw the ball
deep down the field, He's just not accurate with it.
And it feels like when you have a five ft
nine dude, you kind of need to be a little
bit more act. Doesn't that? Than that go in the
opposite of it. They need ten thousand reps of just
throwing go rounds. I mean, this guy is a dynamic player.
You can throw a five yard shallow cross and Hollywood,
you know, we can end up in the paint. So

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I mean, I I applaud to Pick. I mean, he
always looked like he was. He looked like Joel Embiade
out there a lot to me, Like when he goes
down the ground, he's gonna grab some body part. But
when he's on his feet, like there's nobody can touch him. Now,
you know the there's a couple of things like Kyler,
Like it's weird, but like Kyler Murray and Hollywood Brown,
nobody knows how fast either one of them are, Like
nobody has They have never run and they never will.

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But we don't know if there are four two or four,
three or four We don't really know. But that Hollywood Brown,
he's got a stride to a speed like nobody else.
All right, we've we've you pretty much said you like
everybody's draft, So who's draft? You not like? Who did
something here? Like? Don't get it? I mean, I like,
I don't like to kill drafts because I've seen too many.
I was an undrafted free agent and I'd see these

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guys coming in during you know, first mini camp, and
I'm like, I'm gonna beat that guy out. That guy sucks,
like he can't play. Like I knew right away who
could play and who couldn't play in without paths, And
in five minutes of mini camp, I knew who could
play on probably a clip. So I don't want to kill. Like,
it's hard for me to kill a lot of drafts
when I know how hard these people work. I remember
talking to Ron Wolf, the great, you know, architect of

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the Green Bay Packers and some other places, and I
remember one year I was just asking before the draft,
like how many players he studied? He goes, I studied
eight hundred players, and but my staff studied eleven hundred.
Like there's nobody that can study eight hundred players, But
that's what these guys do. So it's hard for me,
like I started a hundred fifty players and even that,
you know, like if if I didn't float my boat

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after two games, I mean I didn't watch him anymore,
you know. So it's hard. It's hard to say where
the seventh round steels are going to come from. You know.
So Darius Smith was a low round pick, and look
at the money that the Green Bay Packridge just gave him. Yeah,
it is interesting that people are saying how good, how
great a draft the New England Patriots had when they're
a team that traditionally doesn't draft all that well, especially

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wide receiver. They haven't drafted wide receivers since Terry Glenn.
And they went and take Nikkila Harry. Uh Harry, who
was a big, big, big wide receiver. Again, it's like
he was at our network a couple of weeks ago.
You know, he's from like the Islands, the Grenadine, right,
so you know he came to he came to Arizona
to uh to basically play football. But he looks like
your strong side linebacker. I mean, he's like I thought

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Sterling Sharp was big and strong, and he was. And
I worked with Sterling for ten years and he was awesome,
but like this kid, he's bigger than t O. And
the the one thing that was interesting though, we just
talked Hollywood and now Nikil. Now they were the only
two receivers taken in the first round. But what's interesting
about that is if you look at all these air
raid offenses, you have inside receivers and you have out

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side receivers, and they kind of get pigeonholed. Deebo Samuels
an inside receiver. Pirates Campbell is an inside receiver. Like
we all know that they could play, but they didn't.
They weren't used the way Hollywood Brown was used by
Lincoln Riley. They weren't used, you know. Uh the way
to kill Harry was used at Arizona State, where he
played every position including punt returner in the backfield. And

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I just think, if I'm a receiver now, I want
to go someplace where they're gonna use me and they're
gonna put me in all these different positions where I
could show all my skills. Did you watchin Yeah? I
mean the guy you know, you know who I said.
Here's why I wrote down. I said, he is uh uh,
he's the head coach of the Tennessee Titans. That's who
he was, like, you know, that's that's who he was

(01:15:41):
at knowing that Pittsburgh that drafted him. That's what he
was the Patriots. That's who he is as coach, and
that's who Chase Winovich is. Okay, I want to get
to actual what actually in the inside the league stuff.
Uh Eagles. Um, we've gotta talk Cowboys what they do
with Doc and what his value is contractually, and we
get to a couple of your your tweets as well.
Upcoming next one more segment with Brian Baldinger plus Am

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at Baldy was at bald the NFL at bald the
NFL at bald the NFL. Uh may I see by
the Dallas Cowboys they got they got some uh, they
got some rotating parts there on their defensive line. They
have Dak Prescott and they've said they they want to

(01:17:10):
give Dak Prescott a new deal. But how much is
Dak Prescott worth? Da? Now, Dad doesn't want to give
hometown discounts. And I'm sure because he's been underpaid the
last couple of years. Now he wants to be overpaid. Now.
We just saw Russell Wilson reset count the quarterback market
and it keeps being reset. Yeah, I mean, but are
you gonna pay Dak Prescott that kind of money? Well?
What's their option? What are you gonna do? Start over? No?

(01:17:32):
The option is you haven't play out this year. You
can That's what I don't get to negotiate. And then,
by the way, if he didn't like it, you can
enfranchise Tagim. Yeah. I mean this is just his fourth year,
so I mean he's on a five year deal. He's
on a four year deal, so I mean you could
play it out. But I mean, I don't think that's
a good idea, especially if he has a great season,
he win the division for a second year in a
row and three out of four years. Like, I wouldn't

(01:17:53):
let that happen. I've figured out a way to to
lock it up. Um, I don't know what the answer is.
They just drafted four defensive linemen, three defensive ends, you know,
and they got a couple of running backs for him,
and they got look, you gotta add Amari Cooper to
this draft into this hall. They haven't stopped building around him.
So put it all together. Does Flacco work in Denver?

(01:18:13):
He could work in Denver. Like the one thing about
Joe is I didn't think they did a good job
at all in Baltimore building around him. I thought they
just threw a bunch of free agents at him this
year and look, they had some injuries, but um, you know,
I think they have much more to work with right now,
and they got themselves a tight end which I think
he could really work well with. It takes some time,

(01:18:33):
but I don't think Joe has done playing by any stretch.
I don't. I don't either. I actually like I actually
like that. I mean, think about people. People do have
a misconception of where they were. Even when Peyton Manning
won a Super Bowl that was a dynamic defense and
Peyton Manning was a shell of himself, it was just, hey,
don't don't, don't lose the game. The defense will try
and kind of win us the game. Now the defense
isn't the same as it used to be. But now

(01:18:55):
he's got a pretty good skilled position players. But you know,
if you think, Okay Flacco wins the Super Bowl in
two thousand twelve, and you know they have this miraculous
come back against the Patriots, and you know they beat
Denver and Denver and all these things happen, and Joe
is the m v P of the whole postseason. He
has this incredible run an Kuom Bold in the whole group.
But they also had the league's best defense and that's

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what Vic Fangio will build. He will build the league's
best defense because that's what he does. And not just
build the best defense like you did in Chicago, but
they'll they'll get to the point where they take the
ball away at or near the top of the whole league.
And when you do that and you give Joe Flacco
extra bats, it's a good formula. The Pittsburgh Steelers are
choosing talent over character or whatever, right, and and that

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you know levy On Bell, who's a tremendous players now
in New York, Antonio Brown, tremendous player is in is
in Oakland. They draft Devin Bush, who I would say
is probably finally their answer to the Ryan Schayes are
injury I which devastated them a year and a half ago.
But what do they look like? Do they have enough
talent on the football field when you lose your two
best skilled position and players to make enough players well,

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I mean, look, James Conner was on pace two before
the injury. Um at the end of the season, he
was on pace two. Break every one of Levan Bell's
records from a standpoint of rush average, yards receiving total
yards per game. I mean, he was gonna have two
thousand yards at halfway through the season when they were
running away with the division at seven and two, and

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they collapsed down the stretch and he got hurt and
they stopped running the ball. So I think they feel
good about James Conner. The offensive line is still intact. Um.
You know, Juju Smith Schuster was the m v P
of the team. Watch what James Washington does this year.
He was a third round pick at Oklahoma State the
year before. Like he'll be the next man up. Um.
I think they have a lot going for him right there. Uh, Cleveland,

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a lot of people are hopeful about with Cleveland. Uh.
By the way, Vegas doesn't think nearly as much. Vegas
is the Browns missed the playoffs, Greedy Williams gets drafted,
hasn't played it down in the NFL, and says they're
gonna gonna win the Super Bowl. But to me, it's
troubling that Odell Beckham Jr. Not there for oh T S.
I I understand fans operating the narrative like only bad
things can happen at O T A S. My thought is, like,

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here's the guy who says he's about winning about football
and the only way to get better with a new
quarterback is reps with that new quarterback. But as a
former player now an analyst, what's your take on the
fact that O b J is not there. Look, if
he was in his six year with Baker Mayfield or
fifth year and they've had I'd say, Okay, you know,
you go out to l A, you know, go play
on the beach and do all your training out here.

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But he hasn't, like he needs to be in Cleveland,
Like I don't. I know, they can't make him be
in Cleveland, but that's but I just don't understand this.
That's where all the fun is. Like, these are your brothers,
like Baker and Juice and Nick Chubb. I mean, these
are the guys you should be hanging with every day.
But but we've you know, in part of this, we've
created this narrative. It's the same thing with college, like

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the college is somehow bad and what your college experience
is actually the most fun you'll have, and that O
ts are somehow bad because well, what if you get
hurt whatever, you don't have to be there. She don't
be there. But as you point out, like look from
the college being the best time of your life to
the outside outside of the football season being the best
time of the season. I do honestly the best time
I had. I mean I loved, I loved. I mean

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I was but I love football. I loved every part
of it. But part of it was going to the
locker room every day, like I like, we would get
all work done and then we were on the golf course,
we were out riding jet skis, whatever we were doing,
whatever city I was in, Like we're having fun, you know,
and we did it together, and you know that that bonding,
Like you can't get enough of that because that's what

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you're gonna rely on when you're in the huddle and
you're down six to Pittsburgh in that fourth quarter, Like,
let's do this thing that we've been Like, you look
at each other, like we've been doing this thing for
six straight months. Let's go finish this. Uh, I got
fifteen seconds, you're your your six ers. Beat the Raptors tonight.
They better or this thing might get over real quick.
It's it's still come on, ben, let me see you, Like,

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let me just knocked down some Jays tonight, Brian Balding
and fall him on Twitter Ball. These breakdowns are amazing.
Thanks so much your time on the NFL network as well.
Coming up next, what you didn't know that the postseason
was different than the regular season. Apparently the Rockets had
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Houston Rockets right? There are poorly kept secrets in the
world of sports, in the world in general, but the
worst kept secret in the NBA is the regular season
and the post season are completely and totally different. Look,

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it's not just in basketball, and it's not just with officiating.
Coaching is different. Major League Baseball is probably the most
known for this in terms of managing right, it's like
two different sports. In the regular season, in baseball, you
gotta manage egos, you gotta make sure you fill out
the lineup right, But you also have to manage the

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arms in your bullpen. Yes, you want to win games,
but you also, if you're a postseason team, need to
manage the arms so that you're healthiest at the most
important times. Now, no game is worth a season. It's
just not, especially with a hundred and sixty two. And
when you get into the playoffs. Now, if you're in

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the National League, the double switch your rotation. When do
you go get a guy, do you go to a lefty?
Do you go to a righty? All the different things
that you have to do in the postseason. Well, the
importance of strategic managing is magnified because of the small
sample size of playoff baseball, the same as true in basketball. Look,

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the reason Brad Stevens is so good is he's a
great strategist and on the fly he can adjust his
he can adjust his strategy to fit the to counter
the strategy of the other team. What he sometimes struggles
with is Brad didn't play in the NBA. Brad doesn't
profess to be anything he's not. He's not any cooler

(01:25:31):
than any other coach, nor does he want to be.
But not being a former player, he may lack some
swag with some guys. He may not take the challenging
personalities of some players, and so sometimes in the regular
season there might not be have been the motivation of
the Celtics that there should be, even though they should
still be motivated since this group of players has done

(01:25:52):
absolutely nothing in terms of winning an Eastern Conference championship
and completing an NBA NBA Finals. But you get to
the postseason and now the sudden Brad's genius is much
more on display, between the rotations and the defense and
what he's doing and finding the mismatches on offense. That

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staff led by Brad Stevens, this is where they're at
their best. Why because the playoffs in the regular season
are just different. The regular season is about getting you
to the postseason. The postseason is about winning every game.
The same is true in terms of how you play
and how you can adjust to officiating. It's so interesting

(01:26:35):
that here the Houston Rockets are complaining about the officials
time and again when the truth is that they're playing
against the team. And Steph Curry, who has been limited
time and again in the playoffs, why because he's manhandled
in the playoffs. You can't touch him in the regular season.
And you know what they would always say when Steph
Curry wait to get bumped and banged around and hanged

(01:26:56):
on in the postseason. A man, that's the playoffs. Kevin
Durant last year in the playoffs against the against the
Houston Rockets, or even this year, when you get up
underneath him and your body up to him, Kevin Durant
can't be soft. This is the playoffs man's game. So
when you lose and you don't get a couple of

(01:27:18):
calls that you did get in the regular season, I'm
not disputing into that you're sounding like this with James Harden.
I just want to fare chance. Man called the game
how it's supposed to be called, and and that's it.
And I'll live with the results. But especially we all
know what happened, you know a few years back with
Kauai like that can change then entire series. Just called
the game how it's supposed to be called, and and
we'll live with the results, and it's it's playing simple,

(01:27:38):
all right. We'll call the game I was supposed to
be called. Here's a Steph Curry in the world words
asked about the narrative that the officiating is what decided
game won for us. If we really wanted to exhaust
our energy on that, we could clip together to in
the fifteen players where it didn't go our way. Um,
me taking the three, somebody coming underneath me, two hands

(01:28:02):
on drives like all that type of stuff. But we
understanding the playoffs the way the game is called, Um,
it's a little bit more physical. And whether you're trying
to you know, get fouls on on on every possession
or not, like it's gonna be. And just how it is.
If your style of basketball is only successful if you

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get calls, that is not, by my estimation, a successful
style of basketball. I'm just I can't put it any
more plainly. This happened last year and it wasn't just
in this series. The intent of and this is why
James Harden's unwatchable. We don't like you because we don't

(01:28:48):
like your style. Has nothing to do with the beard
or your what was he wearing? He had some outfit
on that was like, uh like cut up kerchief's kind
of sewn together other odds style. Well what i'm I'm
that aside, we think about the things that traditionally people

(01:29:09):
don't like about the NBA, too, which is a ball rockets,
too much traveling rockets, and now the new age n
B a too many threes. Mike D'Antoni just struggle to
get into Mike D'Antoni because even when he says his
team's playing defense, you're like, oh, and the flopping and
the throw in your head back and the acting is
if you got killed every time. You hate those things,

(01:29:31):
don't you. They're all part of the Rockets. And now
the incessant complaining about the officiating, Oh two minute report,
be damn sure they missed some calls, no question, you know.
But if we if we want to go on the
miss call route, if we want to go on the

(01:29:52):
physicality the playoffs route, had you not been paying attention
to the worst camp secret in all of sports, which
is playoff official itting is different than regular season officiation.
This happens in the NFL. Do you remember when do
you remember what happened when Sean Payton got mad at
the blown past interference call. Do you guys remember what

(01:30:13):
he said? Sean Payton's you know that this has changed
instant replaying the National Football League where his wide receiver
was out of course you got you know, the play
got past interfered with. Do you remember the audio of
what Sean Payton said to the official? That's a super
Bowl call? Do you know what it is? Because in
the Super Bowl they don't like to call penalties, especially

(01:30:35):
past interference. The Super Bowl is watched by fifty million
people who aren't even football fans, and so the last
thing that they want to get involved in is trying
to explain to an audience that doesn't understand football, why
there's a stoppage, why there's a delay, why there's a
penalty marker, and did the ref get it right or
did the ref get it wrong. You want to win

(01:30:56):
the Super Bowl, you gotta play through contact call. Halls
that are made in the regular season and sometimes even
early in the playoffs, aren't made in the Super Bowl.
Sean Payton knows that. You know why I know that
because he's won a damn Super Bowl. It's not really
a secret. It's a poorly kept secret, which is a
lot like the NBA in that officiating changes, right, Like,

(01:31:20):
all of these things are poorly kept secrets. Every profession
has them, Every sport has them. You know. It's no different,
no different than uh, you know, brushback pitches in baseball.
It's part of the sport, poorly kept secret. Fighting in

(01:31:40):
hockey part of the sport. But you're not supposed to
do it in the playoffs. Poorly kept secret. There is
no meeting, there's no collusion, there is no getting together
of Hey, guys, we gotta do different now because the playoffs.
That's just the way it works, just the way it works.
So forgive me rocket fan who believes the NBA doesn't

(01:32:03):
like them. The NBA doesn't care. The NBA has done
this for years, and usually it borders on the side
of being too physical. But that's playoff basketball. It's always
been this way. It's the same reason that I wouldn't
I wouldn't even suspend Chris Paul for touching an official.
He's right next to the official. It's bang bang, He's

(01:32:23):
trying to get his attention. Is not that big a deal.
Playoffs are different than regular season. Regular season, you want
to suspend a guy, make a point. Sure, postseason, let's
move on. It's what should have happened. By the way,
with Marie Stodemeyer and um Boris Dio remem when they
got up off the bench and took a couple of
steps when the Sun's upset the Spurs in San Antonio

(01:32:46):
and Robert Ory kind of chuck Steve Nash and the
score table and they got up for a second, they
got suspended. Shouldn't do it? Why? Because the playoffs are
different than the regular season. Everyone knows this. I'm not
spuding that they miscalls the misscalls all the time. But
when your boy who cried wolf and you fall down

(01:33:07):
and flail every time anyone gets even close to you, well,
what are we supposed to do? Think you got fouled
every time? So basically, they're kind of the opposite of
Louisville basketball and Rick Pettino was there, or Georgetown when

(01:33:27):
John Thompson was there. Those teams fouled so much that
teams would go in knowing like, hey, look, Louisville fouls
every time. They just don't call it every because you
can't call a foul every possession. It's unwatchable. The Rockets
look like they draw a foul every possession, but you
can't call it because it would be completely unwatchable. And
we can't tell if you're drawing the contact or receiving

(01:33:49):
the contact, and so sometimes we're gonna miss it. But
that's because of your style, not because of our ineptitude.
The boy who cried Wolf is an old ail that
works in this one. If you fall down every time
you take it three, don't feel bad for us when
we can't realize sometimes you're actually pushed down and some
other times you fall down your own. And if you

(01:34:12):
didn't know that playoff basketball was officiated differently than the
regular season basketball would even paying attention to for most
of your life, like not surprising to me. Everyone knows it,
especially the Warriors. Curry and Durant get manhild in the playoffs.
It's one of the reasons that people didn't think Steph
Curry could win a championship on his own. It's why

(01:34:38):
he got shut down by Matthew Dellavedova for a couple
of games. And the same complaints you're hearing from the
Rockets you heard from Warriors fans. They found a way
and figured it out. I'm gonna have to make shots,
gonna have to play through it, play through contact. And
then you find me the losing team outside of maybe

(01:34:59):
aubur basketball, that's ever okay with the officiating. You tell
me the team. I don't believe that team exists. Only
teams that lose complain about the officiating. Come up next.
Jerry Tillery's a defensive tackle from Notre Dame. He was
drafted in the first round by the l A Chargers.

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that you got Melvin Ingram on one side and Joey
Bosa on the other. We'll get his thoughts, he joins us. Next,
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So the Rockets apparely have dedicated this time of their
their analytics department to go through how many points they
lost last year in Game seven because of the officiating. Like, dude,
you missed twenty seven consecutive threes as a team. So
I'm just gonna start by saying, forgive me if I
don't actually care for officials, missed a call or two.

(01:36:34):
And this this is this is why though analytics is
an important part of sports, it's not the end all
be all. You know, in football they have analytics departments,
but the end of the day, stop to run, run
the ball, don't turn over. What do you do on
third down? Can you get after the passer? That's something

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the Chargers want to do, and they want to do
that with the help of Jerry Tillery, who comes over
from Notes Dames their first round traffic. He's the newest
member of the Bolt Gang. He joined us on the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports. Trader Jerry, how are you,
I'm great, Thanks for having me, Um Okay, So, uh,
you get the call you're gonna be a charger? Did
you know did you have any hint of the chargers
were very interested in you before draft night? I did. Yeah,

(01:37:19):
I knew the interest was there, but you know, I
had no idea, you know where. But you know, there
were a lot of teams that were interested. So you know,
I know I had no idea, you know where when
the call would come. But you know I got the call,
you know, from a miss plus guard and found out
I was going to be a charger, and uh, and
I was. I was ecstatic and you know the rest
of history. What what is the what's the feeling like

(01:37:44):
of being draft in the NFL? Oh Man, you know
it was it's kind of like, you know, your your
life's work really coming coming to fruition. You know, every
every you know, five AM workout, you know, every every
wins friend, you know I've run. It's kind of you know,
in preparation for for this moment really and uh and
then you know it happened to me, and you know,

(01:38:04):
it just kind of proves that you know, you work
hard at something and you you know, give give your
everything and give your all to something and you know
it thinks thinks can work out for you. All right,
you getting out of a car right now? Yeah? Actually, okay,
were you driving or somebody else driving? Someone else is driving? Okay,
I mean you're you're big like that now that you
always have a driver, you are you are an uber

(01:38:24):
guy or you have a you have a guy who
drives you around everywhere. I'm working, my roommate, we're head
at home. Who's your roommate? Uh? Nico for tea? All right?
So so Nico is driving? Well kind of what's Nico
rolling in these days? It's actually a black suburban all right? She? Uh?
Black suburban? Uh? Does he at least let you pick
the music? Or do you get does he pick the music? Well,

(01:38:45):
the music was off today. You know, I had had
an important phone call today. I'm on the guard these show.
There you go. That's that's good good news right there,
jar I like that Jerry Tillery joining us. Um, do
you have to now that you're a you know, millionaire,
do you have to pay for gas? Uh? Well, you know,
hopefully not too. You know, my first three courses are
to be a cause, you know, without without guys. So

(01:39:06):
that's that's the plan. Yeah, um, I don't know if
you don't you know, So the Charger facilities in Coasta, Mesa.
You are probably gonna you get you get away with
Uber for a couple of weeks, but you're gonna need
to ride out here. You need a whip out here. Uh,
you're gonna drive it, You're gonna ship it. I definitely
ship it. You know, I'm gonna fly and ship the car. Now,
what are your thoughts on? Like most times, your job

(01:39:29):
as an interior defensive linement pretty tough. You face double
teams a lot in college. But here's the thing with
the Chargers. They got a guy named Ingram on one side,
they gotta get named Bosa on the other side. Kind
of seems like a pretty good deal for you, right
when you got those two monsters coming off the edge. Yeah, no, definitely.
You know, they're definitely great players in respect of what
they do, and and you know, I think I can

(01:39:51):
over the contribute to you know what? What? A all? Right?
Like you I'm losing you here, like you're going putting
away your stuff here? You got cut? Sorry hear me? Yeah,
we're good. Jerry Tillery joining us on the Doug Gottlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so you go
through the whole process. You go through, you get drafted,

(01:40:11):
you meet, you meet every you meet everybody. Um, now
what's the process like in terms of going and getting
ready to go to work? Right? Like do you you're
going home to Louisiana to get your stuff? Um? How
do you? How do you process going going and playing
for the Chargers? No, so both of ourselfs was back
at back at Notre Dames. I'm here now, you know,
kind of working out and you know, just training in

(01:40:33):
preparation for a rookie minicamp next week. So that's kind
of that's kind of where I am. You know, I'm
gonna have you know, pack a bunch of my stuff
there and uh here and you know, bring it out
and you know, the work begin. Yeah, the work does begin,
all right. So at Notre Dame, you're still in the
dorm because I know, the dorms. Once you get to
be seniors, you once you get to be upper classmen,
you get these awesome huge dorm rooms. Or you can
go off campus, which is it for you? Yeah? I

(01:40:55):
was definitely off campus. You know, I was off campus.
You know, after a couple of years. So, um, did
did the rents do? Dude? You gotta get this. If
may you still paying rent? Are you done? Oh? Yeah,
I know I'm done. I'm done. I'm paying rent for sure. Um.
Now you're in southern California. You got Anthony Lynn and
I know you you said coach Swan, no no boig deal. Man.

(01:41:18):
I was hoping you wouldn't bring that up. I mean, look,
it does in fact happen. Right. Did he say anything
to you like, don't worry about it, man? Yeah? Pretty much. Yeah,
we kind of lapsed it off. It was it was funny,
you know how that happened. Jerry was nice about it. Yeah,
Jerry Taylory joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. How do you fit? Like? What

(01:41:39):
has Gus Bradley told you if you had a conversation
about how he thinks you fit on that defensive line? Yeah,
for sure. I think you know, we all obviously have
you know, some really good pass rushers in the decent
alignment in the l A already. And uh, you know,
I think my my talents and my strength well, you know,
definitely add to our add to our team, you know,

(01:42:00):
improve what we can do. So, Yeah, I've had you know,
a park to Chris Badley and a coach coach um
coaching and about you know what what what my role
will be, and I'm definitely pretty happy with it. All right,
what I think the only thing people worried about is
your shoulder. How is it? It's good, it's good, I'm
here rehaving it and you know, spinks stinks coming back
and uh and it's and it's getting a lot better.

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How much? How much? When? When do you think you'll
be fully cleared? Like early July before training camp, Jerry
Tylery joining us in the Doug Gotlie Show. I'm not
sure if you know this, but they consider you a
Patriot killer. Okay, So here's here's how it's explained to me,
and you tell me if this makes football sense. You
have a higher football like you than I do. Okay,
But it's edge edge pass freshers are great. They're great,

(01:42:46):
especially against Russell Wilson, so he can't escape the pocket.
Some against Pat Mahomes, so he can't escape the pocket
even though escaped the pocket to throw. But against Tom
Brady he gets rid of it so quick and you
got to force him office spot that you need versatile
interior pass rushers, especially guys that are six ft sep
with long arms and big hands and are good. Is

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that is that a fair depiction of what you bring
to the table. Yeah, yeah, it definitely is. You know,
that's kind of That's what I like to do. That's
what I hope to do. I think I'll definitely be
able to accomplish that and uh hopefully you know, make that,
make that come true. Um, isn't botha? I think he's
is he nine? Do you get what are you doing?

(01:43:28):
Jersey number? Wie? We lost him? That became a big thing. Oh,
we lost him. That's what happens. Don't pay your bill
in college? That was funny. That's funny though. Right, he's like,
he's he's with his roommate, picked him up the airport.
That's awesome, Right, He's going back to his house, he's
getting all his stuff. Told him no music sound with
Gottlieb Show. Yeah, I'm I'm most interested in night number. Right,

(01:43:52):
If you lose your number, that's a bummer, serious bummer.
Rama's you know, defensive lineman's specific numbers that they have
to have. I just wonder which one I was assume
in the nineties, right, it's not their numbers in the nineties.
The defensive lineman usually yes, usually in the nineties. So
what do you like, what do you do your first

(01:44:12):
round draft pick? You're not going to get boasts number
Boast is ninety nine any but like on the Chargers
on their Twitter handle, they have Tillery. Let's stud that.
So I just wonder how, I wonder how Joey Boasts.
I wonder how Joey Boast hands that. Jerry, what are
you gonna do as far as your number? Yeah, so
Joey literally change the number, and so I'll be able

(01:44:35):
to keep my nine. Uh, you know playing for the Chargers.
Joey change What is that? Right? He went? Did you
don't have to give any money for that? Right, dude? Like,
I hate dude. I don't have to have any mane
any money yet you don't do yet? But yeah, no
I didn't. I did it. So it worked out. You

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get to be ninety nine, you get to play for
the Chargers, and and and oh yeah, by the way,
oh yeah, by the way, you get to wear the
powder blue uniforms. Now. You know, here's let's give it.
I'll give you a little hint. Philip Rivers says, it's
eight or nine? Don't they have it? Do they have
a ninth? Did they have the ninth kid? Yet? I
think they had the ninth kid. He's got ninth, yeacently,
the ninth one that was just recently. Okay, so um

(01:45:18):
the River's quizzes. You gotta be able to name all
nine children? Oh oh yeah, No, I'm gonna need I'm
gonna need a little bit of time before I'm all right. Well,
so le's listen. It's like, you know, three hour flight
from Chicago to l A to Orange County, fly into
John Wayne, plenty of time to bone up. But I
just warn you if you want to get in good
graces with your new quarterback, great way to do so.

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Know the ages names. You don't need to no middle names,
but the chronological names of all nine children. You do that,
you're golden man. Forget about this stuff. Unto let's go
with Anthony Lynn. All that coach Swan stuff goes out
the window. If you can name all eight children. Okay, alright,
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Dan Buyer who um, he's an interior pass rusher. He
was a defensive back in college. Now he's interior pass rushing.
I do it all. I'm a hybrid. That's that's what
I do. And tonight the Sixers will try to even
things up with the Toronto Raptors, Game two of the
Eastern Conference semis eight o'clock Eastern time. No shoot around

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is expected to play tonight despite Trump some troubling stomach issues.
Blazers and Nuggets ten thirty Eastern time, they start their
Austern Conference semifinal series. Spurs and ed coach Craig Popovich
and talks on a new contract well. The NBA's final
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including that Steph Curry should have been called for two
fouls in the final seventy seconds, that Draymond Green did
not follow James Harden on Harden's game tying attempts with
about ten seconds to go, and the report also revealed
Chris Paul did make contact with an official late in
the game, causing his ejection, as it was his second
technical of the game. Eagles exercise the fifth year option
on quarterback Carson Wentz his contract. The Chiefs are considering

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as soon as this week, according to ESPN, and no
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don't we call it? And now here Shannon Sharp giving
us his thoughts on Raptors Sixers tonight. I'm taking a
rap scared Deimmie Butler and and and m Harris, Tobias
Harris and not slatches on the defensive end, and Kauad
made him look second rate. He had to go on,
I've never seen him played that well offensively. We know

(01:48:35):
what he could represents defensively. But if he gonna play
like that, and then his sidekick Sea, I'm gonna give
you that. Yeah. Look, I think the Raptors are the
better basketball team, and I think it's because they didn't
really skip steps the way the seventies Sixers tried to
skip steps. And by skipping steps, I mean like, look

(01:48:58):
the Sixers, they had good shooting, they had talented young players,
and I know Colin talks about aggressiveness and teams going
for it. They went for it, but they went forth
too much. The playoffs are about your starters, but you're
you are going to need shooting. Shooting is incredibly valuable,

(01:49:18):
and they don't have enough, especially coming off their bench.
Whereas the Raptors, though they were denied and they made
a a trade and went for it, they also continued
to add with their younger pieces and their bench trading.
For Marcus all late the development of of of s
that he was discussing, you know, now you actually have

(01:49:38):
two different you actually have to um two different point guards.
Speaking of point guards, let me just t you up there, Ryan,
because you had rhyme music. Had an outstanding tweet. It's
one of my finer works, if not the finest work
I've ever done via the what they call the Twitter machine.
Would you do? So? I was just watching the Raptors

(01:50:01):
over the weekend and I tweeted, Kyle Lowry is that
coworker you have who's a really nice person and you like,
but you're still not sure exactly what they do and
you don't understand why they get paid so much more
than you do. Yeah, I would also say that he's a.
He's a guy who it's a case of regular season
versus postseason. It's a different kind of basketball, and guys

(01:50:24):
have a lot more attention to detail on their assignments,
and it's one of the reasons that oftentimes he struggles.
But your point is really well taken. I thought it
was a very good tweet. It was. It's one of
those like, don't get it right, You're like watching, watching, watching,
I don't get it. Yeah, admittedly I don't watch a
ton of Raptors regular season games. So to say that

(01:50:45):
he may be the type of guy who kind of
helps carry him during the regular season and then Kauai
picks up the slack in the postseason, I can't speak
to that. But just having watched him over the several
years he's been in the NBA and knowing the history
that they've had coming up short, in particular literally him
and his struggles when they had DeMar de Rosen and
they couldn't make it past the Eastern Conference finals. You

(01:51:07):
I just look at the situation and you go, he's
a nice he looks like a nice player. But the
fact that he is making over thirty million a year
for this season and next seasoning, You're just like, wow,
that looks like a really bad contract. Well, it's one
of those he was paid for for his past and
he was. He was He was arguably their best player
going back three or four years ago when they weren't

(01:51:28):
really a championship team, and they you know, it's one
of the things that that average or above average NBA
teams run into, like do we pay this guy who's
really good for us in the prime of his career
um or do we let him walk or do we
trade him? And they've been able to make it work anyway.
But now, look, in fairness, it's not like Fred VanVleet

(01:51:48):
was great the other night. He couldn't do anything. It's
this is a hard series for a small guard. You know,
it's just a hard series for a small guard to
play in because the only guy you can really guard
in the seventies six year starting line up is JJ
and j J Redickle where you go because you gotta
chase him around. You know that you can't guard Jimmy Butler,
he's too good and too big. Can't guard Ben Simmons
because he's you know, six ft ten. You can't guard

(01:52:09):
Joel and beat he can't jarge guard Tobias Harris, you know,
and even when they bring in you know, James Innis
or Jonah Bolden, like those guys are Greg Monroe, Like,
who are you going to get? I mean, uh t.
J McConnell only played four minutes. It's the only guy
you feel like you have a good matchup against great
four minutes. Yeah, So it's really really it's it's difficult.

(01:52:30):
It's difficult to be a small guard. You had to
be so good on offense, and he hasn't been. He
hasn't been, but he's he was rewarded for past performance.
He was an NBA All Star, the East was weak,
and he had a couple of incredible seasons with a
different style of basketball, and now he's overpaid. That's one
of the reasons they thought about moving on from him

(01:52:51):
at the trade deadline, but they couldn't get any takers
to get anything reasonable. The other thing that was interesting is,
you know, we know the rep Raptors aren't one of
those teams that they're going to be constantly putting in
primetime games. But there has been this slow realization that
with Kawai Leonard being basically m I a All of
last season, plus the fact that I think it was

(01:53:13):
the year before that he got injured against the Warriors,
so we didn't even see him for a lot of
that postseason. It was almost like people forgot that when
Kauhi Leonard is healthy, he is, without a doubt, you know,
this third best all around player in the NBA, maybe
even the second or first. Like this weekend, you're seeing
people like man Quais out there getting it done. Like yeah,

(01:53:35):
he's always kind of been amazing at what he does.
I mean, like he was the finals MV between people.
People have forgotten how good he is, right I tell
people like, I think he's the second best player in
the NBA. I thought he was the third best player
when the Bron was the best, or Lebron was, you know,
he and Durant, I thought he was the because he
can guard any position and he can score both inside
and out. He's an efficient score, is a very good rebounder.

(01:53:58):
He's not as good a passer as I the other
who obviously neither of the are the pastor of Lebron James.
But I do think that he has the best post
game of the three. Um Durant's got the best one
on one game of the three. You know, for people
want to say you honest, like look honest is just
not that refined an offensive player in comparison to the others.
And for you know, James Harden doesn't play any defense,

(01:54:19):
and Steph Curry is kind of little and also struggles defensively.
He and he had hard to make up for at times.
Steph gives it a better effort defensively, whereas Hardened. You
know the way in which they let him play, which
is he just kind of goes for steal and if
you beat him, that's okay, they'll defend you at the rim.
But yes, I do think this series, this series will
point out that I what what limits the Raptors is,

(01:54:43):
what has limited the Raptors is I don't think you
can win a championship with Kyle Lowry as your point
guard at this point in his career. I just don't.
And I think of eventually that will come to roost.
I don't think it comes to roost in this series.
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Dab what he got so much today, Doug. We started
in Miami where Josh Rosen was introduced stairs the newest
member of the Miami Dolphins, and talked about that well
bad teammate narrative. I think I was a little bit
had a bit of a bad perception at first. But
what I tried to do is just not really say,

(01:56:11):
Sarah do anything extra, just kind of be me and
continue on to keep my head down, and eventually the
story will straighten out, and I think it has for
the most part. The newest Dolphins speaking today. Look, I'll
just be honest. I've had people say things about me
when I from past places which I feel that that
are not accurate and not an accurate depiction. Um. It's

(01:56:34):
it's a really hard thing. Like when you if you
know you're a good person, and you know you what
the way you do things is the right way to
do things. The only thing you can do is go
to work every day, right, just show up. I think
it's a great opportunity for Rosen. It's almost like a
red shirt year, like I throw away here. It's a
different way of doing it. But like if anyone want

(01:56:55):
to say, like Josh Rosen is smart, like he wouldn't
You got a guy who has been NFL for a
decade and is a Harvard guy who also people have
said it's kind of too smart for his own good.
You know, I think all this stuff is a good thing.
I think Josh Rosen was given an absolute gift to
get out that mess at his Arizona, even if Arizona
feels like they're better off with with Cayla Murray. The
Green Bay Packers have already given another player, Clay Matthews,

(01:57:18):
number fifty two jersey, as first round picker Shawn Gary
wore their jersey number is Matthews. Matthews is now with
the Rams. Clay actually tweeted today quote the body is
not even cold yet, and tweet to you don't play
for the Packers anymore. You have to if you're a linebacker,
you have to wear but you know one, a certain number,

(01:57:42):
a certain series of numbers is the only thing possible.
So yeah, you're gonna have to get over a dude.
The Chiefs are considering place a wide receiver Tyreek Hill
on the commissioners exemple list as soon as this week,
according to ESPN, UM, I would guess he's not gonna
play for the Chiefs anymore. Now do you think he

(01:58:02):
plays again in the NFL? Um? No, I think I
think it's going to be difficult. Yeah, I don't. I
don't see it. I think he does play in the NFL.
I don't think it's for for he'll definitely sit this season,
maybe a little bit more than that, But this is
one of those like not on my team, but somebody's team.

(01:58:23):
It'll happen, do you San Antonio Spurs and ed coach
Gregg Popovitch already talks on a new contract. Popovich, in
the final year of his deal, just wrapped up his
twenty third season as the team's head coach. Would you
like to be the guy who fires Greg Pavitch? No? Thanks? Um?
Why didn't they foul when they're up four points down
four points against the Denver Nuggets? Like, I don't necessarily

(01:58:44):
know if it would have made a difference, but that
seemed like little brain flagelens there from LaMarcus Aldrich and
most everyone else on the floor as well. Mark Cuban
want on the Twitter ran today over the league's officials.
We'll get to some Darryl Morey tweets in a second,
but Cuban on the officiating in a tweet said, if
you want to know if NBA officiating will get any better,

(01:59:04):
look at the G League officiating. Of our new officials
come through there. We don't invest one tenth of what
we should to train and develop our G League refs.
He also said one of the core problems of the
group is the belief that only former officials know how
to train current officials and identify and develop new talent.
Cuban says, I couldn't disagree. More so, who should train officials? Uh?

(01:59:27):
He says that, uh, maybe former players or coaches or
people who are in with the ability to train or
have that sort of management background could train the officials.
I actually like the idea of former players. I mean
Leon would. Of course, the former player isn't official in
the NBA. He was actually on the eighty four Olympic
team with Michael Jordan's I like the idea of foreign players.

(01:59:48):
There's a problem with foreign players. Are a lot of
foreign players don't want to go grind and be officials.
I know you're talking about training officials. UM, I don't.
I don't think anything there's anything wrong with that. I
just think also it's really hard. I don't know. I
was asked early day on TV what do you do
with the flopping? And I think the only thing you
can think of is if you catch a guy flopping

(02:00:11):
like where he's not hit at all, like James Harden
in Game five against Utah. I believe I acted like
he got hit in the throat and wasn't touched at all.
That should be two shots in the ball. That's the
only thing you can do. Like, you have to make
it extra punitive. So guys that when when they if
they are not actually hit and they act like they

(02:00:31):
get hit, you gotta make it extra punitive, more so
than just one foul. There are morey tweeting an article
today from where Steve Kerr was critical of the officiating
of the n b A by saying that they weren't
getting calls. This, of course in reference to the conversations
we've had from yesterday's game one. Steve Kerr also today

(02:00:52):
at the start of his press availability flopped and then
he said, look, we just watched the film. I could
say that there's ten that there's ten calls that that
weren't made there or whatever. Um I actually thought of
You listen to Steve to the entirety of it. He
was a little bit sympathetic, but a little bit like
both teams played at a really high level. It should

(02:01:15):
also be pointed out that there was one complete phantom
call made and Chris Palm missed both free throws. The
Warriors had a bad turnover down the stretch that gave
the Rockets, you know, extra life. I don't know, I
just I have I have long not like and I
didn't think it was a well officiate but anything, it
was well officiated game either side. And I think part

(02:01:36):
of it is it's almost as if the way the
Rockets play foster an environment, foster an environment of where
you can't tell what's a foul what's not a foul
because they're constantly falling down. Texas Tech is giving men's
basketball coach Chris Beard a six year extension with more
than twenty seven million dollars now that comes out on
an average of four point five seven million dollars per year.

(02:02:00):
That's fourth highest in college hoops. Coach k John Calla
Perry and the new contract for Rick Barnes at Tennessee
would be the only contracts worth more via average salary. Well,
I mean, like, listen, when you win as many games
as quickly as he's won, in spite of the fact
that they've changed personnel last year, losing you know, the
first one and done and three start seniors, the coaching

(02:02:21):
is what does it look? People are always gonna say, look,
Dabbo Sweeney, nine million dollars a year not enough for
the players. Dabbo Sweeney through twenty, after twenty years of work,
won another national championship and was financially rewarded. The players
that played, six of them were drafted, and they get
financially rewarded. Like it's there actually is a parallel there.

(02:02:43):
We play well in college, you do well, your your
first contracts a pro is much more than it would
have been had you played poorly in college, period, unless
you're you know, quarterback of the Giants. Finally came out
today that Espiano is going to be doing a thirty
for thirty on competitive eating. Really, that's that's the word
that's out there. I'm more in the Felipe Lopez one.

(02:03:05):
That one looks really really good. You get out there
and pressed. That was the press. All right, boys, who
wins tonight? Let's start with the Raptors. Seventy sixers, Ryan
Musically you got I will go with the Raptors. What
about you, Dan Buyer, I'll take the sixers tonight. Sixers
for the upset, I'm gonna go with the Raptors. Get
in a very I think the very very close game.

(02:03:26):
Ramos raptors um Other games tonight, first one of Nuggets
portant Shilblazers. Correct. Okay, quick turnaround for the Nuggets going
against the Blazers, who had some more time off. But
it is in Denver. What do you like, oh, Trail Blazers.
What do you like the Nuggets? Uh? Music? What about you, Ramos?
You like the Blazers? I like the Nuggets at home.

(02:03:47):
I'm with Dan Buyer on this one. So Buyer and
I are opposites on Philly and we're the same on Denver. Um.
I'm getting a mistaken count. I don't know. I got
Grant Hill tomorrow. We got one minute left left? Stuck
out the show Fox Sports, Right ya

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