The End of the Rockets?

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for the Warriors, right, that's what you've heard. There was
a story that leaked out today that MSG, the company

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that owns the New York Knicks and of course owns
Madison Square Garden. Also, by the way, MSG owns UM
where the Milwaukee Bucks play. But people don't actually mention
that anyway. MSG could provide Kevin Durant with a TV
show if he was to go to the New York Knicks.

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Huh huh wait wait wait doesn't Kevin Durant already have
a TV show with the ESPN? Okay, but what whatever
the level of enticement and the intention that could be
brought to the New York Knicks, there is the thought,
the prevailing thought, that the Golden State Warriors are in

(02:11):
the final stage of this incredible run that they're gonna
have to rework themselves. Draymond Green is not a free
agent at the end of this season, but his contract
could be reworked, although if he waits an additional year
he can make a lot more money. And suddenly now
he looks like the Draymond Green of old Clay Thompson
could be a free agent this year, although Clay Thompson
has offered up he doesn't really want to play anywhere else,

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even though his dad's a former Laker and his dad's
Lakers color commentator. So all of these things are interesting,
But the growing narrative, or the lasting narrative throughout the
entire season is Katie wants out. This thing is about
wrapped up. This is the final run of this version

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of the Golden State Warriors. They'll still have staff that
probably stuff Clay that might left Draymond, but they got
to reworked themselves because k D is out, and that
means the Warriors will have to change and evolve and
the West can be had. Have you heard that before?
You're all not in your heads going get gottlieb your
your stakes of it. What if I told you that

(03:18):
we're looking at the wrong team as the last of
their runs. That's what I said, Like we look at
and say, hey, the Warriors, but let's start with Kevin
Durant and realized that what had apparently been emotionally holding
him back from lasting staying in Oakland and next year

(03:40):
of San Francisco was the thought that he wasn't getting
the respect that he deserves. That as good as he
has been, no, no, as great as he has been,
and as important as he is to the run that
this team is on, still steps team and he's the
steps to two time m v P. He's only the
one time m VP, and he'll never be seen as

(04:02):
the greatest player on Earth now. Look, I told you
two and a half years ago that he was the
best player in the NBA. Whether you believe me or
didn't believe me, it's fine. I've been at Fox Sports
trader now for two years and I believed he was
the best player on Earth. Then I believe he's the
best player on Earth now. And whether or not you

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want to tell me that Lebron was better during the playoffs,
you know, last year because he had to do more,
and what would Kevin Durant do with the same, I
don't know. All I can tell you is I saw
the match up against other in the last two NBA finals,
and the second half of it really matters. K D
was better. And the guy who was guarding him, his
name is Lebron James, and he whether he was too
tired because he was carrying the team or just wasn't

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as good. He wasn't as effective when it's most important,
whether he had two other superstars with him and Kevin
Love and and Kyrie Irving a championship team, or whether
he didn't have Kyrie Irving. It didn't seem to matter.
K D was better, regardless of which. Many people, like
my friend Colin Cowherd, like many on the ESPN, many

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on T n T, are now coming out saying, well, yeah,
he's the best player on earth. James Harden might win
the m v P, but that's for the regular season.
Jannaton Tenna Cooper might win the m v P, but
in the playoffs, when you gotta shoot, you gotta do
some of the mostly you gotta shoot and score and
carry your team. He is not what KD is, honest,

(05:27):
is only one one NBA playoff series. He had a
great year, but the playoffs are in fact different. And
now after this kind of dominating what's now a five
game run of I'm Kevin Durant, even last night, where
you start to realize he wasn't as efficient as he
needed to be, but he still gave him twenty eight
points with players draped all over him, and he helped defensively,

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and he does a little bit of everything that he
is there stabilizing force when Steph Curry separates his finger,
when Clay Thompson goes into a slump. Sure, Andre Goudala
and uh Draymond Green are glue guys, but Katie's their
go to guy. He's the best player. That's the best

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players to do. And so if you're Kevin Duray, you
sit there and go like, Hey, why do I have
to move across the country. Already have a TV show.
We're going to San Francisco, which is a just gold
mine terms of the financial future of the franchise and
players that played for that franchise. We've already won two
we might well win three NBA titles, and what would

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stop us from winning four or five and going on
some sort of historic run. And then I look over
the other side and I look at the Houston Rockets.
The Rockets last year, after trading for Chris Paul, signed
him to a contract extension at thirty three. That's this season.
He makes thirty five point six million dollars at thirty four,
thirty eight and a half, and then it can't cranks

(06:53):
up to forty one point three and forty four point two.
Albert pool Holst thinks the back end of that deal
might not be that good. If you add in what
James Harden is making well into the mid forties per year,
James Harden and Chris Paul collectively will account for over

(07:14):
half the salary cap for the Houston Rockets. And though
I like the fact that Chris Paul has taken a
secondary role that he's not as ball dominant, let's just
be honest. He's not the Chris Paul of old. None
of us are. Once we hit that moment past our prime.
He's as healthy as he has been in the playoffs

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in years, and he's effective, but more marginally effective. He
cannot nor should he try to carry this team. And
while they kept things together and played good team basketball
when James Harden was out by getting the double ipoke yesterday,
we would agree that he's probably not even really an

(07:59):
All Star call of a player this year, let alone
the next couple of years. He can't stay healthy, wasn't
healthy the entire season. He's not getting younger, and he's
at the most athletic position, and he's already undersized. Like look,
I love Chris Paul, but that those last two years
are bad years, and if you don't have enough this year,

(08:22):
you're not gonna have enough next year because you can't
go ahead and add things when you've got two guys
making a half of your salary Captain, you've got Clint
Capella who can't play at the end of big games
because you can't make free those he can't make shots,
and if you make a post up, he looks like
he's never played a little post before. We're looking at
this completely the wrong way. This is not definitely the

(08:43):
last chance the Warriors have to win a championship. It's
actually more likely it's the last chance the Rockets have
to win one. Chris Paul's thirty three gonna be thirty
four member. He's part of that banana boat crew. Look
at his contemporaries. D Wade Granted four years older out

(09:06):
of the league, Karmeno Anthony a year older out of
the league, and Lebron James doesn't look like himself. Look, man,
this is a young man's athletic game. And if you're
already undersized, it's not that he lacks toughness. That dude's
tougher than two dollar steak. But the team is built

(09:28):
around those two guys. And we already know James Harden's limitations,
but his strengths far outweighs limitations. That's fine, And the
idea of Chris Paul it's not a bad one. It does,
in fact work. He is willing to play two different roles,
one when James Harden's in, one James when James Harden's out.
But he barely has it this year, and what makes

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you think he's gonna happen next year? And they don't
have the chance to go out and add any sort
of credible talent surrounding them because they're tapped out. We
started with the premise that this was the last of
the Warriors runs, and I'm not sure that's the case.

(10:12):
I actually think it's more likely the case that this
is the last of the Rockets runs. All right, Can
the Rockets win a couple of games and make this
thing a series? In Houston? What do we make of
the resurge at Milwaukee Bucks last night? What about Philly
going into Toronto and splitting And oh yeah, by the way,

(10:36):
what of this shadow owner stuff where Kurt Rambis's wife
is like the right hand woman of Genie Buss. Does
that bode well for what the Lakers are gonna do
this offseason? I got some football stuff for you upcoming um,
especially with the Baltimore Ravens, but we'll keep with the NBA.
Is Rick Buker from Bleach Report and FS one joins

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(11:41):
Schny got their first win, and the Golden State Warriors
reasserted their control over the Houston. Rocket's kind of a
weird game, really um weird game because early on James
Harden got poked in the eyes, had double poked in
the eye and scratched and the eyelid, and after he
goes out, Steph Curry goes out and dislocates a finger

(12:03):
on his non shooting hand. Steph came back in and
was in foul trouble. A couple of weird phantom calls,
so you take away you know, three m v P awards,
two guys from the team, and the Warriors for the
most part kept the Rockets at arms distance. Only late
in the game it got a little tight and the

(12:24):
Rockets end up missing just enough shots and the Warriors
hold off for the wind and by the way, strangely
do in fact cover at the ends as KD makes
a couple free throws like one and a half seconds
to go to win by six. Rick Buker's a senior
NBA writer for Bleach Report. You also see him on
Fox Sports one helping out with all of our different shows.
You can fall on Twitter at Rick Buker. I started

(12:46):
with the premise, Buke that we thought maybe the national
narrative was this is the last time we'll see the
Warriors or this version of the Warriors together. And the
reason was, like Katie didn't feel like he was getting
respect that he deserved and the freedom that he wanted. Well,
now he is getting respect he deserved, He is getting
the freedom he wanted. People are saying he's the best

(13:07):
player in the NBA. Meanwhile, the Rockets have this Chris
Paul contract which is gonna get worse, and he's going
to get older, not get younger. Isn't it more likely
that the Rockets this is their last shot than it
is the Warriors. Well, it can be both, can it can?
And I believe so you're saying that Russ Westbrook and

(13:28):
Paul George have a reason to be optimistic today. I
I kid a little bit, but no, I I believe
both of those things absolutely to be true. That if
this is the Warriors last best chance, this also could
uh pose or or stand as the last best chance
for the Rockets looking at their uh their their contract situation. Yeah,

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Chris Paul, uh that that's a hefty number. And at
thirty three and the way he's playing your sustion, you
know what what he has left. There was no question
that people have have felt for a while now that
his best days are behind him. But you look at
their their top three in Paul Harden and Clint Capella. Uh,

(14:14):
they comprise nearly sixty five of their of their cap
space and Capella has been as much of a disappointment
as anybody in this series to this point. I expected
that he was going to present a puzzle that the
Warriors were going to have difficulty uh figuring out, and

(14:37):
he has been quite the opposite. And so, uh yeah,
I agree. I still don't. I don't think that we've
seen what the Rockets are fully capable of for whatever reason,
and yet they've been in both of these games, and
so I'm not I'm not saying that the series is over.
I know that Darryl Morey I ran into him immediately

(14:58):
after the game, and there are you know, there are
times where you'll get somebody from a team and they'll say, hey,
you know, they protected their home court advantage. Now we
go to Houston, now it's a different thing. He was
he was genuinely disappointed in how the team played. Um Now,
whether that means that he believes that they are capable

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of far more and simply didn't show it, or whether
they got exposed for being what they are with the
game being officiated the way it is in the postseason,
it remains to be seen. I didn't talk to him
long enough to get get a feel for that. Yeah,
what what's interesting is you could point out that, um,
the missfoul calls and and James Hard missing some shots

(15:42):
in Game one and getting poked in the eye in
Game two, but I would point out, we still haven't
We know we're gonna get one Clay Thompson game, right,
We're gonna get one game where he can't miss, and
we still haven't seen much of Steph. Step has had
this weird thing in addition to the dislocated finger, where
he can't stop getting into foul trouble. Like it's the
craziest thing I've never I can't remember, forget to forget

(16:04):
a guy in the NBA playofs, a superstar guard in
the NBA Playoffs constantly in foul trouble. And so the Warriors,
really without real Steph Curry are up two games. Tone Yes, um,
I still wonder can you get these KD performances? I mean,
that's the that's the challenge. And when Katie is rolling

(16:24):
like this, it really becomes a k D show. And
uh And and the Warriors as much as any team
end up standing around a little bit and watching him.
It's it's hard not to go to it because Kadi
at this point there's nobody, there's nobody playing like him
right now. I'm not even sure he sees the defender
uh in In half of the shots that he's taking,

(16:46):
that he's even aware of where he is, because um,
he's getting to where he wants to on the floor
and rising up and shooting, particularly in this small ball matchup.
I just I don't see anybody that's that's causing him problems.
You have to hope that he's he's off or that
he falls in love with those one footed runners, which
for the life of me, I don't understand why he's

(17:07):
even taking. But nonetheless that that when he's going like
that is generally you don't see Clay Thompson games. You
don't see Steph games. And as far as Steph's foul trouble,
largely it's because they've decided, you know what, we'll we'll
let him play on an island. They're not coming for help.

(17:30):
Uh in in In any way to discourage someone attacking
Steph and so as a result, I mean I I
look at at some of them at least defensively, and
what he's trying to do are the TICKI tack? Yeah,
but in not not in game one, and in in
this last game. I mean, we knew that the referees

(17:52):
were going to make it clear from the start that
they were in charge and this is how the game
is going to be played. And I really think all
the issues in game one were created by the fact
that there was an uneven whistle at the beginning of
game one, and that's what created the problems. Yeah. I
actually thought that the deficiating was kind of a non story.

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I thought the Rockets got a couple of calls last night,
got a couple of calls last night, but it was
it was really good pregame story, not a get not
a game story. And I saw, I saw. I ran
into Scott Foster, Ed malloy and Eric Lewis as they
were walking out, and you know, I congratulated them because
it was such a huge story. I mean, you imagine
coming into this game with these two teams and everybody

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is and then the reputation I mean that Malloy was
the one who kicked out k d And and Pat
Beverley in the in the first round. And we know
Scott Foster's history with the Houston Rockets, and so the
fact that the spotlight was so on them in this game,
and you know, halfway through, suddenly realized the officiating hasn't

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been a factor at all. I thought that was a
tremendous job on their part And I have to give
credit to the two teams too, because I feel as
if they made certain adjustments that didn't make the officiating
the center point of Game two. Um, what is the
league gonna do? Like? I can't think. And Adam Silver
has let so many things go publicly, right publicly. He

(19:23):
has allowed really the players um to have a huge
say and and say some and and have some negativity
towards a lot of different things on the court, off
the court, social social justice, a lot of different stuff.
But when you start questioning the credibility of the league's officials,
and you have an analytics department and this this memo

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gets leaked, you know, right before Game two, I mean,
I can't imagine what David Stern would do. How how's
Adam Silver handling Well, Adam Silver, we're talking two different eras.
I mean, David Stern could rule with an iron fist
and did and uh, the league was just in a

(20:06):
in a different place. The the authority and the control
and the uh the mouthpiece that the that the players
have in today's world, to be honest, is simply different.
So too to try to muzzle them, to try to

(20:26):
uh to silence them, and that's that's not a reality. UH.
It's it's a matter of can you, um, can you
negotiate and can you get everybody to understand that we
all have a hand in the continued success of the league?
Uh and and make them partners. And you know, if

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you're if you're gonna have partners as opposed to people
that you rule over, then you're going to have to
give them the opportunity to uh to voice their to
voice their issues. And I just get the sense, you know,
Adam overall believes not full transparency, but transparency at least
the guys of transparency, that hey, we're gonna put everything

(21:11):
out there and we're going to let the public decide,
especially in light of with you know, gambling becoming accepted
part of of the league, with their their business partnerships
and everything else. UM, they don't have much other choice
other than to leave this open UH as as much

(21:31):
as possible, and accept that public criticism and just do
everything they can to make sure that it may be opinion,
it may be UH, there may be questions by players,
but what what what does reality say? And UH and
and live with the idea that the truth is going
to prevail and the truth is going to protect the

(21:53):
integrity of the league. Rick Bucker joining US Fox Sports
one NBA insider alight Buke, what what about what we
learn about the Celtics and Bucks from last night's game too?
Honestly that the Celtics are still capable of having long
stretches of unraveling. But if you're asking me which blowout

(22:16):
is more indicative of the way this series is going
to go, I would say, at some point we're gonna
get past the blowouts and we're gonna get to uh
more closely contended games. And when we get to that point,
the Celtics have the advantage. I still believe that a
lot of things UH in much the same way with

(22:36):
the Raptors, UM. I feel like the Raptors and the
Celtics are the better teams. They are going to determine
how these series go and how long these series go.
But if both teams play their best, then it's the
Raptors and the Celtics in the in the Eastern Conference Finals.
And I don't know how how to more simply put that,

(22:59):
I think they can make the game difficult, the Celtics
on Jana Santa Takumpo, and they don't have other uh
ancillary playmakers to go to. Uh, simply the Celtics. Celtics
offensively in particular, just you know, they have these spurts
where it's turnover, it's missed shots at kok Scott's almost

(23:19):
an embarrassment of riches and that there. They have so
many options and they will run through them all and
if each one of them is missing, as happened in
the third quarter last night, Uh, then they're in a
they're in a bad place. And um but it's the
way they've played all year and I don't expect that

(23:41):
to change all that much. But I think for the
most part in these playoffs, they've they've demonstrated that at
least they're warring. Agendas are no longer an issue. Uh,
let's let's get to the latest story about the Lakers,
that Linda Rambis is acting like a shadow owner, right,
and then Kurt Rambises is going to be some sort
of vice president or whatever. Um, this is so very Lakers.

(24:06):
And I hear in your you know, it's it's the
old Now. They got Rambo, they got Rambo's wife. You know,
Kobe is still having some sort of say within the
organization with Polinka. Um, what does this look like once
we get to next year coach personnel, front office, what's
it looked like. I don't know that it's necessarily gonna

(24:28):
look any any different than it does right now. They
are looking for, and I think wisely, so uh, some
astute worker bees to do, you know, to be in
the grind and and and to do the footwork that
needs to be done to rebuild this franchise. But as
far as the people that are up top, I just

(24:50):
I laughed because it makes it sound so sinister. You know,
Linda rant like she has Genie Buss, you know, tied
up in a closet, and she's become she's become the
owner who's pulling the strings. He has long been a
confidant of Genie Buss, and by extension, so has Kurt Rambis.

(25:13):
Now because of previous issues, Gerry West is not coming back,
pat Riley is not coming back. Uh. Genie Buss is
following the dictates of her father and the way he
did things, which is, you know, he trusted those that
were close to him, that he had long relationships with

(25:34):
um and so that's not what Jim Bust did. Genie's
going in another directions. So look, I we don't know
a whole lot about with the and and that's why
I feel like there's a lot of innuendo and speculation
like who is Linda Rambis and how does she have
all this control and how this power and this much power?

(25:55):
And what does it mean? And it can't mean anything
good because we know who Jerry Rest is and we
know who pat Riley is, but we don't know who
Linda Ramas is. So this must mean that the Lakers
are just off their game and going sideways. And I'm
I'm I'm going to wait and see. I want to
see what transpires this summer. They had a very well
known name in Magic Johnson at the head of of

(26:19):
of the organization, and you know, people within the League question, Okay,
is that really gonna work? Is that really gonna happen?
But fans seem to embrace that idea. The public seemed
to embrace that idea. I don't think Magic had a
very good run of it, um and he didn't. He
did them no favors going out saying they're just one
piece away, because I think anybody, anybody, any rational human being,

(26:43):
would say the Lakers are a long way from one
piece away from contending for a title. But nonetheless, I'm
i just because there's a vacuum of understanding of who
Linda Rambus is and what her uh input and influences
on Genie. It's being made out to be a really
bad thing. I want to see the results. The results

(27:05):
this summer will tell us everything, all right? Is Tyler
gonna be the next head coach? I would if Monty
Williams is taking the advice of the people around him,
which is to not take the job, then yeah. I
Mean my understanding is that Money probably has first crack
at it. But he's going to have a shot at
a couple of other jobs, or is he expected to

(27:25):
have a shot at a couple of other jobs that
could be more attractive and that some of the people
around him have suggested that he'd take a pass on
this one, and if that happens, then I would expect
that that Tyl Lou ends up being the guy that
they that they hire be great stuff. Has always been
really appreciate you joining us. Excellent insight. Look forward to
seeing you on the TV shows. Thanks for joining us.

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their new quarterback who they said they just drafted. This
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Baltimore Ravens have a new general manager's name is Eric
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gentlemanagers of the Baltimore Ravens quote. I think he's a
football player and everything that entails his skill set is
varied and multiple. He's fast, he's strong, he's tough, he's
a playmaker. He's a football player. We've seen teams, for instance,
the New Orleans Saints with Taysom Hill. We've seen other

(31:20):
teams fine ways with players like this. They can help
you win football games. He fits our defense, he fits
our offense, he fits our special teams. Yes, Da Costa
said that on defense, mc surely could get playing time
at safety as well as making plays on offense, returning kicks,
possibly even punting if the Baltimore evens asked him too.
I think he fits everything. Do you guys remember last

(31:42):
year anybody I've been with, the big nontroversy was over
Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson. It's a quarterback, Okay, his quarterback,
and if you ask him to run the forty or
ask him to one run wide receiver route, well, somehow
you're a racist because he's a black quarterback, so he

(32:06):
can't possibly play quarterback. Look, dude, this is in the
nineteen eighties. This is it's It's not the nineteen seventies
or nineteen sixties where there's some invisible ceiling. Who's first
player technically in the draft? Oh that's right, it's right,
he's the black quarterback. Nobody mentioned it. You know why,
because nobody cares. Lamar Jackson is crazy fast and crazy

(32:30):
athletic and wildly inaccurate as a passer, and so they
wanted to get him on the field as quickly as possible.
And hey, what's the measureing in forty? I'd love to
know somehow I became a bad thing. Lamar Jackson wouldn't
run a forty. Hey, Cayle Murder run forty? Can you
imagine if this is These exact same quotes were attributed

(32:54):
to Ozzie Newsome or Erica Costas GM last year. Hey,
we drafted we drafted them. R Jackson. You have Joe Flacker. Look,
we think he's awesome. He's a great football players, tough
and smart, play offensively def He's like what he could
play defense? What are you talking about Yeah, actually this
really makes sense. He's a super athletic quarterback who you're

(33:16):
gonna need a backup because Lamar Jackson is going to
get hit and he's probably gonna miss plays at some point,
maybe games at some point. He's running football more than
anybody's ever run the football in modern day football history
at the quarterback position. He's a better thrower than Tim Tebow,
but that's you know, a lot of people are better
throwers and Tim Tebow. I mean, look, they're all in

(33:40):
on the Lamar Jackson style and but also realizing that
you know, you're gonna have to support him and have
a good defense and control the football and maybe have
some other playmakers that Taysom Hill type. But just remember
these comments are not racist, no, no, no, no, because
Trace McSorley is white. So if you say he's not
might be a quarterback in the NFL, you're not racist.

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But if this is Lamar Jackson, you would be a racist. Everybody.
Good mc surely through for ten thousand yards in college,
seventy seven career college touchdown passes. You also run for
m seyards thirty touchdowns, and look, I'm not telling you
he's Lamar Jackson as an athlete or not, but just

(34:25):
the idea. This shows what idiots we are in the
media and how much we like create some sort of
race debate which doesn't actually exist. Again, keep keep in mind,
I actually think Erica Costa has a good plan. Hey man,
he's a good football player. Find a way to get

(34:45):
him on the field and will be our backup quarterback
because we're gonna need one. But you can only say
that apparently about a white quarterback Taysom Hill Erica Costa,
not about Lamar Jackson, who, I should be pointed out,
before he became the starting quarterback, was playing some wide receiver,

(35:05):
playing some running back, was you know, in these different formations,
and they didn't really want him to throw the football much,
even though he put up ridiculous throwing numbers in college.
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fake news, the drive for five. Let's see if we
can go five for five on real news or fake news,
real news or fake news. That the NBA rescinded the
technical follows given to Warriors forward Draymond Green and Rockets
center the they and last night's game to Golden State win.
I think that's real news and the spectacular. And that's
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Green's fourth. Seven is an automatic suspension seven throughout the playoffs,
so he drops back to three. All right, that's it's
a lot. Tell you what they I know Steve Kerr
wanted to change the rules of this and this is
a this is a big point of contention with Nick Bob,
my partner on Sunday. He was he was fed up

(37:22):
with the Steve Kerr wanting to change this rule. But
sevens a lot throughout the playoffs. If you think about it,
it is like, we're not asking a lot of you
to not get seven. Yeah, right, yes, but it's like,
oh that one doesn't we we? I mean that we
have the weirdest culture ever, super super weird culture, strange.

(37:43):
In fact, fifteen through an eight two game regular season
is a suspension. So almost half of that when the
most games you could possibly plays. So that's yeah, that's yeah, one. Yeah,
whatever you want four games, that's out of pace anyway,
you're one for one. Real news are fake news. Retired
coach and now Fox broadcaster Urban Meyer completely shot down

(38:06):
the idea of him coaching at USC, saying that coaching
is not in his future. Is that real news are
fake news? Oh that sounds like fake news. It is
asked about Reggie Bush and Matt Leinert trying to recruit
him to USC, Meyer told the l A Times, I
believe I'm done, but I've also learned to just live
in the moment end quote wow wow. I think that's

(38:28):
an honest I think that's an honest I think it's
also leaving that shoe in the door so it doesn't
close completely. Well, I mean he knew that. I mean
what he doesn't know that people are gonna ask. He
doesn't know that people are gonna wan him to coach.
I just you know, it's it's gonna find we'll figure
out how much life balance he has. I do think
that doing doing this big studio show they're doing and
not doing games themselves, it's less likely he'll miss the games.

(38:53):
If you go and do games, you want to coach
nobody who has ever done it. It was like, no,
I want you want to be part of the look
as much as the winning. So I actually believe what
he's saying is accurate, real news or fake news. After
talking with Joe Thisman, new Redskins quarterback Dwayne Haskins will
not wear number seven with the team, and instead we'll
wear number seventeen, which was worn by Doug Williams. That

(39:14):
sounds like real news. Seven. Yeah, Theisman gave him the
A O K after the two spokes of Dwayne Haskins
is expected to wear number seven. He didn't tell him
to break a leg, did he? No, he did not.
Real news are fake news. After being booed by home
fans last night, Philly's helfielder Bryce Harper said, quote, I'd

(39:34):
do the same thing. End quote. Uh, they're real and
they're spectacular. Harper said as much after he's three for
his last twenty eight and also misplayed a flyball and
last night's lost to Detroit. He has not he has
been all kinds of stinky, and that's why they're billing

(39:56):
him and that, Look, that's what comes with playing in Philly.
That's what comes with making that monstrous contract. At least
to this point, Grant, it's only year one. He's handling
it well. Finally, real news are fake news that John
Ramos's son Lucas fell asleep at the end of Avengers
last night. Now they have to go back tonight for
an earlier showing so he can see the end. That's

(40:17):
a fake news. Yeah, even if he did, John would say,
tough beans. This is how it ended, and that's the
fake This is game time on the Duck Got Leap show. Ramos,
Did you like it? Yeah? Did you know? But you know,

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have you seen all the Avenger stuff? Did you Did
you see all the PC stuff that they put in there,
which is it was a little much. It was like,
got it, got it, got it understood. The biggest story
entering last night's Rockets and Warriors game ended up not
really being a story. And I can't believe that Draymond
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story or a big story heading into last night's game
was the officiating. And in spite of the fact that
two of the biggest stars in the game, the James

(41:42):
Harden and Steph Curry, both got injured during the game
because of contact with somebody else, the officiating was really
kind of it. It's a weird story. Like if I
told you that James Harden got scrap poked in the
eye and scratched on the eyelid, you would have said
with officiating that I had to be terrible. And then

(42:04):
and then Steph Curry dislocated figure, like wow, it was
like World War Three. But they were really kind of
freak things. I really kind of freaky, freaky things. And
and in spite of the fact that that James Harden's
says he had blurred vision, he couldn't see, he did
manage to get up nineteen shots and nine free throws

(42:25):
in thirty four minutes of play. Um. You know, look,
Steph Curry only played thirty three minutes. He didn't shoot
the ball well either of that dislocated left hand, non
shooting hand, and for the most part, the final score
was not indicative of most of the game. The Rockets
kind were always within arms distance, but never really It

(42:47):
wasn't a back and forth. It wasn't Haymaker after Haymaker.
It felt like the Warriors were six points better, which
is how many they went by. But the officiating was
kind of a non story. Right, one team shot twenty
five the other team shot twenty four threes. The Golden
State Warriors started going to the side of not in

(43:10):
front of James Harden when he shots threes, go to
his left side, left hand shooting. He did get a
couple of phantom calls. He did draw some fouls, but
it wasn't so egregious that it looked like they were
trying to, you know, even it up. On the other hand,
it wasn't like Golden State got away with murder. There
were some calls that went against them, including Steph Curry
when he came back in getting into some some foul

(43:31):
trouble with a couple of tickie tach calls. I'd love
to tell you that the officiating was the story of
the game, but it wasn't hard and getting poked in
the eye, Curry dislocating a finger, Um Kevin Durant. The
percentages kind of belie exactly how dominant he was. He
was nine of twenty two. He ends up twenty nine points,

(43:53):
four assists, five rebounds, and two blocks. He had a
block that was called a foul. It was a perfect
block on a dunk of clinkpe u um. And he
had several shots drives, pull up jump shots that rimmed out.
I mean, he was about he was. He was very
close to another forty point night, and he was the
best player on the floor. And then the other you know,

(44:15):
Clay Thompson had enough shots. And Andrea Goodala continues to
just absolutely shine in this matchup. They go to him
early in the first and third quarter. Like if I
was to go kind of line by line, Chris Paul
kind of being a jag, Clint Capella not showing up,
Andrew Godal, like I don't even know how far down

(44:36):
the line officiating would be. And then I heard Draymond
Green after the game when he was asked about the
controversy surrounding the officials. Here's what he said. Both teams
just realized what the hell is going on last two days. Um,
you know, you can't really turn the blind eye to
anything in today's day and age with social media and

(44:57):
all these things. So everyone was a aware of all
to talk about officiating, about foul calls, come out and
play the game. And I think both teams did a
great job, but that they weren't complaining about many cars.
We weren't complaining about many calls because it's kind of
embarrassing for the game with basketball. Uh, how much has
been talked about about files and officiating, Like what about

(45:19):
beating your man? What about stopping your man? No one
talked to anything about schemes the last two days. It's
all been about file costs. I think. Uh, both teams
were just locked in on coming out of playing the
game to the best sibillity. And you gotta give them
credit to both clubs. Both teams did that. Yeah. Look,
the Warriors out reboundy had eighteen offensive boards. That continues
to be a problem and the Warriors, a team that's

(45:40):
you usually turnover prone, actually turned the Rockets over. They
had thirteen first half turnovers. That really was why they
had nine point lead. The other part was the Rockets
closed out quarters better than the Warriors closed that. Like,
actual basketball stuff became super interesting. You know, Austin Rivers
was really good in the first half, so so in
the second half, actual basketball stuff was interesting. And how

(46:03):
do we get to the point where Draymond Green became
the voice of reason? Next thing we know, Dennis Robins
gonna get up and go and say something really smart. Yeah,
I mean it's really amazing. Um because as much as

(46:24):
as much as Steve Kerr was very reasonable in his remarks,
he did throw up a little flop in his pregame commentary.
You know, Katie's kind of said much the same thing.
But here's Draymond Green, a guy who has gotten into
it with officials and got a technical foul which was rescinded.
I love the rescinded technical fouls rescinded after the game,

(46:45):
and he sounds like the guy who's like, look, we
all sound like a bunch of idiots. Don't you wish
you had that with an argument you had, like with
your wife, with your buddy, just somebody that it's like
the crazy guy in the group's like man and we
sound like Neanderthal's here talking about women this way, such
a degrading manner. What are we doing, fellas? What are

(47:07):
we doing? And the other part is real Draymond playoff
Draymond is different than regular season. I need some attention.
I'm kind of the rebel rouser. I'm the tough guy Draymond.
This is the real Draymond Green. As a player and

(47:28):
as a leader and as a dude. Draymond Green has
been outstanding, outstanding, you know, all of a sudden, now
he's rolling to the hoop and scoring. He had twelve rebounds,
seven assists, two steals. It was a plus eleven fifteen
points for Draymond Green. He looks active, he looks athletic,

(47:49):
he looks outstanding, all right. I mean this is a
guy who, um, you know, versus against Houston the regular season,
three points a game. In the playoffs, for through two games,
ten points a game. Excuse me. More than that, he's

(48:11):
averaging fourteen a half points a game, like he's suddenly
now rediscovered where he can find his points because he
knows that it's it's almost like a little bit of
rope double. I'm not gonna even look at the basket
the entire regular season, and some of his teams are
forcing him to score, and he's taken advantage of it.
But I mean, you're gonna have to back to back

(48:32):
double digit scoring games this year. He hasn't had one
since December two and twenty three, and he just had
one of these two Houston games. He had one time
this year he had back to back double digit scoring
games once. Part of it is that's the game plan,

(48:52):
make him score. Part of it is Draymond has gotten healthy.
Part of it is this is who the real Draymond
Green is, playoff Draymond, focus Raymond. He hasn't just had
back to back double dignitt scoring games. First time all
year he's had back to back to back double digit
scoring games. He looks healthy, he has bounced in his step.

(49:12):
He's an active defender, he's a very good passer, and
when ball goes in the basket suddenly, now he becomes
a voice of reason in press conmerces ryany's you want
to say something, go ahead, Yeah, like you said, the
biggest story was everything with the refs in that whole
controversy with the Rockets entering last night, and that didn't
really seem to be an issue at all. Do you
think the Rockets are now looking at this like they

(49:34):
feel justified in what they did or are they just
looking at it it's like a one game instance and
if this happens again, they're just gonna be up in
arms like all the refs are out to get us again.
You know, I think last night was pretty evident that
that wasn't what caused them to lose. So do you
think they feel good about what they did now? Um?
I think they they feel like Golden States adjusted the

(49:57):
landing space area defense. Although you know the one Kevin
Durant got called for. I showed on Twitter, like, look,
Kevin Durant, though his body was coming slightly forward, he
never he got pushed off, and then he never crossed
the three point line and James Harden shot the ball,
you know, um half step behind three point line, then
came into him essentially, and then Katie gets called for

(50:18):
the foul. Um. So yeah, I don't know. I mean,
I don't know how they feel like. I feel like
they probably think like all all game ones, Game one
was the missed opportunity, but they nearly stuck up and
won that game. Last night, they probably think, hey, James Harden,
you know this. It does feel a little bit like
an excuse making team. We made a couple of shots,

(50:39):
we get a couple of calls, We win Game one.
James Harden does get in poke in the eye, We
win Game two, Chris Paul doesn't get hurt. We win,
and we get some calls. We win games seven last year,
this kind of I'd love to say that that's not
who you are, Houston. But when you put out a
report that we should have won game Game seven because
of the officiating, that's you become. That's you become. Former

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(53:17):
start with a story which seems odd to me. Uh,
John Lynch Kyle Shanahan too strong personalities, but there's rumors
of a rift between the two. You live north the California.
You know front guys, front office guys around the NFL.
What have you heard? I thought we were going to
break down the Ron Adams uh, the lobball screen, the
game plan that he had going. That's what I was

(53:39):
ready for. Doug, we can discuss if you'd like. Yeah,
I think with with the forty nine ers from everyone
that I've talked to is that does not exist. That
it's not a problem people like in that in that
piece it was about a power struggle. There would be
no power struggle. John Lynch is Kyle Shanahan's in pick guy.

(54:01):
If Kyle Shanahan did not want John Lynch there anymore,
he'd be gone, you know. I mean Kyle Shanahan got
a six year contract that over seven million dollars a year.
I mean, he almost got forty five million dollars. And
he's not like he's a second time I mean it's
the first time ever being a head coach. It's probably
the longest contract for a first time head coach in
the history of the league. And again, the only reason

(54:22):
Jed York knew who John Lynch was beside obviously knowing
who he was as a player or whatever as a
candidate for the job, was because Kyle wanted him to
be the guy. And I've heard that they've got along
very well. Now. Have there been disagreements and arguments in
the front office. Sure, that's normal that that happens. That's
that's healthy. You know that there should that should be

(54:42):
the case. Does Kyle Shanahan want to replace these guys?
Here's the other thing, the other name in their Adam Peters,
who got to start with Belichick where he was a
part of a couple of Super Bowl teams, then became
John Elway's right hand guy during the Peyton Manning run
when they won a Super Bowl, and the only reason
John Elway let him leave the Broncos was because he

(55:03):
was so tight with John Lynch and he believed in
what they were doing. And from what I've heard, Adam
Peters and Kyle are very very close. So I just again,
I try not to be naive to these stories because
sometimes when you hear them. The first time we ever
heard about Harbonn Balky, everyone's like, oh, that can't be true,
and that was one of the worst divorces we've ever seen.
From the information that I have, it's I don't believe it,

(55:25):
at least right now. Now. If they lose again, they're
ten and twenty two of the last two years. Sure,
anything's possible. Yeah, my my guest would be is it?
And this and this is again totally hypothesizing, but so
often times when you have strong personalities, guys can disagree.
Like a lot of people, like disagreement, now, you don't

(55:47):
want to carry over outside of the office, the front offices.
You don't want to be in front of the team
or you know, out in public and grumbling to you know,
other people. But like, there is such thing as a
healthy disagreement between guys that no foot ball and may
have and may think a differing opinion. Not everybody is
the exact same opinion as the other person. And the
one thing I wonder, while John Lynch was a borderline

(56:10):
Hall of Fame level player, uh, really successful individual, he
had never been in a position where, you know, as
a coach or as an executive, and I think sometimes
those arguments are a little different than anything you've ever
had as a player. Where Kyle has only been a coach, right,
so he's used to these and his personality naturally is aggressive.

(56:31):
So I wonder if they've had some you know, disagreements
where it's just you know, maybe John's trying to please them.
I don't know. I'm just theorizing that if he had
been a full time executive, you know, from from like
the beginning of his career, like a John Schneider or
Howie Roseman, you're just a little more used to that.
And you know, you're around these coaches, you can hear
these things like I can't believe he just said that,

(56:53):
and the next day you're around him and it's like
it never even happened. Where if you're not used to that,
I think it can to kind of shock people, even
if they are a former player. It's just the conversations
are just different, the pressure is different. The amount of
money these guys, I mean, they both got John, from
what I've heard, makes as much or more than just
about every GM in the league. Because the one thing

(57:14):
he had in his position at Fox was he had
some leverage. He didn't need this job, so they pay
him a lot. They pay these two guys a lot
of money, and I know Jed York desperately wants them
not just to win, but to be friends, you know,
after the bulky Harbaugh thing. So this this sends some
shock waves around these parts, for sure, but I don't
think it's true as of right now. All right, let's

(57:35):
get to the Raiders, another team you'd love to to follow,
and UM have an opinion about how do you think
Mike Back did in his first trash? You know, I
think he played it safe. Uh, you know, talking to
DJ on the phone, Daniel Jeremiah, I think between days
one and two, the way he told me and described it,
I think was perfect. He kept the driver in the bag,

(57:57):
you know, he pulled out like a three iron or
a five would, and he just tried to hit the fairway.
And I understand that, and I have no problem with
doing that. But some of their offseason moves in free
agency were a little different, Like they really rolled the
dice obviously on Antonio Brown. Uh, they paid a lot
of money for Trent Brown, which you know, I think
they were in league circles, some question marks and how

(58:19):
this guy would react to money. Then they signed Vontes Burfett,
and they kind of took the opposite type players, higher floor,
maybe lower ceiling guys, but super high character team captains.
I don't mind the Cleveland Ferreal thing as much because
any time where you go, well you should have traded back. Well,
when you're that high, it takes two to tango, and
if no one's gonna trade with you. I get it.
He was starter National championship team, really good player, a

(58:42):
little rich from my blood, but I get it. My
problem is with the running back. I've talked to multiple
teams in the league that did not even have them
as a top two running back on their draft board.
I think in this day and age, in this league
where you can get starting running backs in the second
and third round, as countless good well run teams around
league took running backs on the second day that you

(59:02):
could have got Josh Jacobs definitely on the second day,
but you could also got just a litany of other
players at that position where you could have taken a
premium player, whether it was Montest Sweat, you know, whether
it was you know, one of the better Byron Murphy,
the kid from Washington that went the first pick in
the second round of the Cardinals. I just didn't exactly
agree with the strategy of the running back. Basically for

(59:23):
Khalil max pick. Yeah, I look, I've heard he that
guys really really like him and that he has no
tread worn off the tires. Because he hasn't been used
a ton um but I'm with you, I generally have not.
It does feel like that's kind of their theme of
the first round, right, was that they took that they
took guys that they knew were good and had high
character as opposed to taking any sort of risk, and

(59:45):
they probably just overdrafted them if and that's that that's
kind of the the worst sin of the first round
for the for the Raiders. Yeah, and that's I think
that strategy can work, but we've seen in the past, Doug,
that that strategy can also blow up in your face.
I think the forty niners a little different scenario, but
they did that with Solomon Thomas when you overvalue the person,

(01:00:08):
because once you sit down with some of these guys,
they can blow you away. And I watched Cleveland Farrell's
press conference. I mean, he's really impressive. I can see
where every team in the league that met with this
guy probably loved him. But you gotta be careful. I
he's stiff. Uh, he's not a natural bender. And I
think you know when you used to see his physical measurements,
you go, God, he's built like Alden Smith. Well Alden
Smith was a really, really fluid athlete and that helped

(01:00:31):
him get around offensive tackles. I think it's gonna be
a little more challenging for this guy. They're gonna depend
on him. And you know, whether it's fair or not
when you get drafted, because these players don't get to
pick where they're drafted, right, They're drafted by the team.
So when you have the number four overall pick kind
of hanging over your head, like you can't just be
a decent player, right, You're expected to be an impact player,

(01:00:52):
and I just I don't know. Doug gotlib show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, it does feel like the
Dolphins gotta you know, kind of stole Josh Rosen doesn't.
Like I'm not in love with everything I've heard about
who Josh Rosen is in terms of his leadership, but
he does feel like an NFL quarterback. I mean, he's

(01:01:15):
not Jay Cutler in terms of his lack of likability. Like,
it feels like they got a good deal on this thing.
I was talking to a coach the other day, Doug,
and he was like, you know, this narrative on him
being this super rich, kind of soft kid from l A.
It just kind of took on a life of its own.
Is he that you know? Is he Peyton Manning or
Tom Brady or something. I don't probably not, but is

(01:01:36):
he a legit talent? And basically to get because you
can look at him, you know, there's not much trick. Now,
he did get kind of pumbled last year, but he's
healthy and they got him for the at the end
of the second round. Imagine if last year, as you know,
coming out in the draft, someone would have got him
at the end of the second round. It would have
been viewed as one of the steels in like draft
history on Draft Day. And they basically just get thirteen

(01:01:57):
games later, get the player for that much and have
to pay a les because the Arizona Cardinals have already
paid the bonus. I think it's one of the easiest
trades that any team will ever make in NFL history.
I don't understand how more teams like good teams, you know,
teams with quarterbacks, the Chargers, the Packers, whoever, just trade

(01:02:17):
about you know, even if it's a middle second round
pick for a guy that if he just shows he's
a good player in training camp, you might Andy Reads
made a career out of this flip him the next
year for like a one. I mean, we see it
all the time. So I think he was way too undervalued,
and the Dolphins gotta steal. So the Giants draft Daniel Jones.
And when people asked Dave Gettleman why he took him

(01:02:41):
so high, he said he knew for a fact two
teams would have drafted Jones for seventeen and most people
think that two teams that he was referring to were,
in fact the Dolphins and the Redskins. Bruce Allen, president
of the Redskins, said, quote, we picked the player we
wanted to pick. I'm almost positive Dave has no clue
about our draft, what our draft board would be. I
don't know which draft boards he knows, but he doesn't

(01:03:04):
know ours. Um, look, you know anyone can I mean,
what's Bruce Allen gonna say we didn't want Dwayne Allen? Right? Um?
But what do you think of what Dave Gettleman's strategy? Well,
I'll say this, a couple of buddies of mine to
do the South that scout that area like Daniel Jones.

(01:03:25):
I don't know where you fall on this. I haven't
watched him beside a couple of games just during the fall.
I didn't think he was I never thought the sixth
pick overall, But I think on the outside we all
think that's a big time over draft. My buddies in
the league, while they don't think he was a six
overall pick, did did feel that he's a legitimate first
round prospect and liked him as a player. So I

(01:03:45):
I do think that the narrative that's kind of grown
this guy just as a scrub. I don't think the
league necessarily thought that. Now, to Gettleman's point, well, the Redskins,
it was pretty well known that the owner loved Dwayne Haskins. Right,
when's the last time an owner lost in a draft argument?
Probably never, so that the Redskins weren't gonna take him now,

(01:04:06):
I guess you could say, like you said, the Dolphins,
maybe the Broncos. I know l Way denied it. It
felt like he like Drew lock and that was something
that was kind of well known that he loved Drew Lockins,
like the Senior Bowl and then the Dolphins. If the
Dolphins kind of knew that they were gonna get Josh Rosen,
which clearly it was a pretty good idea that they
were the team connected to him. Once Kyler Murray got picked.

(01:04:27):
I still maybe they would have taken Christian Wilkins no
matter what that I I think there is a you
can never say a hundred percent chance, but like I
don't know ninety that they could have got Daniel Jones
that pick seventeen. Now, I think the counter would be
if you really liked them, And sure feels like David
Edelman loves this guy. You just you always take him

(01:04:47):
with your first ability to take him, right, that's quarterback,
it's quarterback league. But I don't know, man, I do
do you think he would have been there seventeen, because
I sure do. I I kind of think he got diggd.
I think he got faked out, That's what I I think.
But well, what I don't understand is how he gets
dead by the team in his division that you know,
the owners crazy. Now, maybe they thought they were trying
to trick him into you know, to make them think

(01:05:09):
that the owner like Dwayne Haskins, so they would try
to do that so they would get Daniel Jones. But
it sure feels like when stuff leaks out of Washington,
it's usually true. So I would have checked them off
the list. I wouldn't have work. I didn't love Dwayne
haskins first comments when he got drafted, you know about
how he's gonna prove the whole league wrong, Like, hey, dude,
you went fourteen to the Washington you get to be
in your hometown team, and there was like three teams

(01:05:32):
ahead that needed a quarterback and you weren't viewed as
good as Kyler Murray. Like I don't. I just how
do we get to this victim culture? Like I can't.
I'm gonna prove everybody wrong? Like who's everybody? I read
flagged him? When I saw someone tweeted out during the
draft he charged fifty dollars to get into his draft party.
It's like, come on, man, I mean this, you're about

(01:05:54):
to make millions. This is for your family. Like what,
I don't know? And that might sound that turned me off.
My friends in the league did not like him as
as a prospect. So if it tells you something, the
Redskins liked them. A lot of people are giving them
a lot of credit. You could argue that's a red flag.
You know, when's the last time they got something right now?
It's a little bit like the Jimmy has them saying,

(01:06:16):
you know, listen to a bum saying I want I want,
I want Johnny Menzel, when the when the rest of
the the actual scouting department is like, yeah, no, no,
we want Teddy Bridgewater, No, I want Johnny Menzel. I
know I that that that whole deal is a little bizarre,
but I I do think I feel for Daniel Jones
in the sense that everyone is already out to hate him.

(01:06:37):
It's gonna be really hard for him to kind of
shut people up. Uh, you would imagine, you know, if
the team's not very good this year, he'll get some
he'll get some games. If those do not go well,
It's just you know how you've lived in New York, man,
things get ugly fast there. That that that team and
that division, the pressure in the NFC East is just
it's pretty crazy. So and I know they think he's

(01:06:59):
really mature. It at the end of the day, that
all goes out the window. You can either player you can't,
and there's gonna be freshure on him to play well.
Uh did you see what the new GM of the
Ravens said um about about Trace McSorley. He said, he said,
he said he compared himself to Taystom Hill. He said, heck,

(01:07:21):
we might use him on defense. We think he's a
football player. He's tough, he's smart. He does a lot
of really really good things. You know, we're gonna find
a way to get it. He does some things that
can help us. Here's the quote. He's fast, he's strong,
he's tough, he's a playmaker. He's a football player. We've
seen teams like the New Orleans Saints with Taysom Hill.
We've seen other teams find ways two players to play.
Players like this. They can help you win football games.

(01:07:43):
If it's our defense, if it's our offense, if it's
our special teams. I think he fits everything. Remember tracing
shortly through for ten thousand yards, seventy seven touchdowns, rush
for seventeen yards. I don't actually think this comment is
wrong or off. I just think it's interesting. Had Ozzi
knew some said this last year about Lamar Jackson, people
would have crushed it, right. Or if if Eric da

(01:08:04):
Costa had said last year about about Lamar Jackson, Oh,
that's so racist to think Lamar Jackson will be get
anything other than a quarterback. How do we get to
this place. Yeah, we're just you know, it's just the
way it is. It's it's not fair, it's stupid. You know.
If anything, the football and probably basketball is the same
way as racist against white guys. You know, so I

(01:08:26):
would say that Trace McSorley. To me, the most fascinating
thing about this Just team is they are all in
on there like a college team. You know, they're running
kind of this offense. This is gonna be way different
than every team in the league and their backup. I've
already started thinking the moment I saw that that guy
went off. I did see some comments from DaCosta where
he said, we kind of had a man crush on

(01:08:48):
this guy earlier in the season. Now, I think once
Lamar started playing, they kind of started looking for those
type players. Is there a chance. Who's to say that
Lamar can stay healthy? Well, that's I mean, look, that's
why I actually like to pick. I think you have
two or three guys like this on your roster. It
doesn't mean Lamar is gonna suffer some major debilitating injury,
but you're gonna get hit, and you're gonna get hurt
at least a little bit. And this guy can run

(01:09:10):
the same offense for sure, and then you know, Lamar
better take a massive step in terms of completion percentage
or you know, if this guy were to Let's say
Lamar rolls an ankle and it missed a couple of
weeks and this guy comes in and you can just
do more stuff on offense. You know, you know the
way the league works, you just move on and it's oddy.

(01:09:30):
While he still works for the team, he's not the
boss anymore that I think Lamar's rope. You know, the
way the media thinks Lamar Jackson is like, uh, the
next coming of I don't even know who, but he's
not that. This guy, he's gonna be much more replaceable
than people think if if it goes a little south? Uh,

(01:09:50):
how big is how big a change are we gonna
see with the Kansas City Chiefs and considering you know,
you lose your running back and your wide receiver in
I'm gonna say seven months, six months combined. I mean,
Tyree Hills might not ever play football again, let alone
with the Kanna City Chiefs. And I know they drafted
speed at wide receiver in the draft, but there's only

(01:10:11):
one Tyreek Hill. What do you think this does you know,
just on the football field for the kNs Chiefs. Well,
I mean Tyreek Hill I think became non quarterback, a
top five or six player in the NFL. So if
he's not on the team next year or suspended or
whatever and not playing on game day, that is a
massive loss. Now, the kid they drafted from Georgia con Scoot,

(01:10:34):
but like you said, he's not Tyreek Hill. But they
lost Chris Conley, so they needed another body anyway. They also,
I'm pretty sure they drafted a running back that Andy's
so good at coaching up guys on offense, especially middle
late round picks, that I don't think it'll be that
big a deal. To me, it's does their defense get
better because Patrick Mahomes gonna throw fifty touchdowns every year?

(01:10:54):
Of course not, but to me, if he throws or forty,
that means you're not going to be quite as explosive
on offense. You're not gonna have the number one scoring
offense in the league. Can your defense not be as
atrocious as has been the last couple of years, because
when Andy first got there, it was the opposite Alex.
They couldn't really score, but their defense was elite. I mean,
they had Eric Berry, they at Houston, they had Tomba,

(01:11:15):
They don Terry Poe was good, Derek Johnson was still humming.
They were really good. They signed Sean Smith, they drafted
Marcus Peters his first couple of years he was there.
They were a defensive team. They don't need to be that.
But if spags Frank Clark can play well because he's
a baller, Chris Jones is still a really good player.
They got Honey Badger. If they can just coach these
guys up instead of being, you know, one of the

(01:11:36):
worst defense in the league, just be middle of the pack.
To me, they'll they will just maintain, you know, being
a twelve thirteen win team as long as Mahomes. Just
if Mahomes playing at a pro Bowl level and their
defense just comes back to just normalcy. I don't need
it to be a top ten defense, but it can't
be what has been, they're gonna be really good. Yeah.

(01:11:56):
I do fear how much different that offense looks, the
space they're able to create when you don't, But I will.
I would say this though, back and now the game
has changed a lot. But in the early two thousands,
the Eagles before Terrell Owens got there that they were
playing with the Freddie Mitchell's of the world, and he's
just such a good schemer that he can manipulate guys.
Now the guy he's a massive loss because he's such

(01:12:17):
a good player. But they Sammy Watkins can play. Travis Kelsey's,
I mean, a really good player. They always kind of
coach guys up out of nowhere. I don't think it'll
be as big of a loss that as it kind
of feels on paper. Great stuff, as always that John Middlecoff.
Three Out is the podcast. Check it out on the
HERD Podcast Network. John, thanks so much, great stuff, as always,

(01:12:38):
have a good one. Let's get to Dan Buyer and
find out what else is going on the world sports.
Great conversation and coming up in the press. In a
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(01:13:00):
rupturing is achilles and workouts yesterday. He's gonna miss the
entire twenty nineteen season after signing a one year contract
just a little more than a month ago. Now the
Raiders are bringing back running back Doug Martin. They also
drafted Josh Jacobs in the first round out of Alabama,
and the NFL network says that running back Marshawn Lynch
would return to the Raiders if the team is interested.

(01:13:21):
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a ham in certain areas. This was Colin Cowhert discussing
a report about the Cowboys and their decision to take
um two running backs in the draft this year. Is
this a plan eventually to not be beholden to Ezekiel Elliott.
Here's what's interesting about the Cowboys. They have drafted so

(01:16:12):
well recently, they may be trapped. So remember they're already
paying three of their offensive linemen a lot of money.
And they have to pay Jalen Smith in one year.
He is as athletic as any linebacker in this league.
And he's a free agent in a year and I
haven't even gotten to the Big four. Gotta pay Zeke,

(01:16:33):
gotta pay Dak, gotta pay Amari Cooper, and you just
paid to Marcus Lawrence. There simply isn't enough money for Dallas.
There isn't. I'm not saying they're moving off Zeke, but
DeMarcus Lawrence got his money, and my gut feeling is
Dak is getting his. But I do think you should
think about this for a second. Did the Dallas Cowboys

(01:16:55):
watch the Los Angeles Rams? And did Jerry watch the Rams?
Give Odd Gurley that massive contract see his injury? And
Girle and Zeke, in my opinion, of the two best
backs in the league, and they're very similar. They can block,
they can run, they can catch the ball. They're just workhorses.
But do you feel as good about that Todd Gurley
contract today, if you're a Rams fan, I don't No,

(01:17:20):
I don't feel good about the Todd Gurley contract, and
I think it's reasonable to supply yourself with with other opportunities.
They didn't really have a backup running back, you know,
And you know, for forgive me, I'm not you know,
Darius Jackson is not somebody who I feel comfortable in
handing the ball too. But if we're gonna, if we're
gonna say the the replacement to Zeke Elliott is gonna

(01:17:41):
be Tony Pollard, fourth round pick, or Mike Webber, a
seventh round pick. Like I don't know, you just in
the seventh round. You stick to your board and you
take the best guy possible. You know, running backs oftentimes
become special teams guys. So he does what he is.
What he's saying making sense. Yes, you can't pay everybody,

(01:18:02):
and you do have a star running back, and you
have a quarterback who you're going to have to pay.
These are all issues. On the other hand, um Jerry
has compensated running backs. Jerry's never had problems paying a
running back. He may have had to have MMT. Smith
set out a little bit couple of games, but eventually
paid him, and if Zeke is as good as everybody

(01:18:23):
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(01:18:46):
Did you check in on the Dodgers at all? Yes,
anytime they're playing the Giants, I will check the score
to see what it's going on. The Bellinger thinks, amazing,
isn't it? He has been very extremely hot, extremely hot. Yes,
he's like he's he's a lot like you Ramos, only
you're physically hot. He's just he's just redicing. You know,
Walker Buler got to win last night. But I'm just

(01:19:08):
blown away by what Cuddy Bellinger's doing to baseballs. He's
hitting four thirty one, his slugging is at eight ninety,
and he just continues to rip the start out of
a baseball. He's got fourteen home runs already on the season.
Wow ah, what a year he's having. And this is

(01:19:29):
coming off of a year where he was really disappointing.
And that's where people go, that's baseball, right. Last year
he had only to sixty. But you know, seen his
loafing in the base pass played a hundred sixt two
games and hit fourteen fewer home runs and he did
in a hundred thirty two games as a rookie. He's
got fourteen already, he's got more than half as many
home runs. He's got more than half the home runs

(01:19:49):
he had all of last season, and they've only played
thirty one ball games. And that is the essence to
a hot streak. But of course that that brings me
to my my famous like we all this is what
we do in baseball, is like the first half of
the season suddenly that makes you into an All Star?
Does it? Or do we count last year at all?

(01:20:09):
Do we count historic numbers at all? And by the way,
Christian yellis yes, Brewer fans, I know he has fourteen
home runs as well, So crazy crazy numbers going up crazy. Um.
Then we have the NBA stuff that happened last night.
We haven't talked a ton about Boston against Milwaukee. I

(01:20:30):
do think that Milwaukee was physical. I thought they were
outstanding defensively, and I thought that Boston, you know, bad
Boston showed up and and this is one of those
things with Jayson Tatum where he is just twenty years old,
this is just his second year out of college. He
has been inconsistent at times, and last night showed that.

(01:20:50):
And nowll of a sudden, we have a we have
a we have a series there, we got a series.
We think. I think tonight, let's see what happens with
Portland against Denver game two of that. Of course, you
got to know in the sixers, and I'm not sold.
I don't think, like, look, do I think that they're
gonna that the Rockets are gonna beat the Warriors four
out of the next five games? I don't. But I

(01:21:12):
also don't think the Cio series is over. I think,
you know, they win Game three, and now it becomes
about can the can the Warriors win Game four? And
if they win Game four, then it feels like that's
a wrap. I know they've been up three games to
one before and lost to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Coming up next,
we're gonna have George Carl joins the show, and I'm

(01:21:33):
gonna ask him about all these series. We'll ask him
about a couple of these teams he coached, like the Nuggets.
But I want to ask him about the Warriors. There
is the assumption that this is the last run of
this version of the Warriors, right, that this is this
is it. Kevin Rant is gonna leave. We'll see what
they do with Draymond. Clay Thompson probably gets a deal

(01:21:55):
to stay, but he could go too. But even if
just k D eaves, their bench needs to be reworked,
and they need somebody. They need another superstar. They need
somebody else who can score, at least shoot the basketball
to spread out the defense. But think about how much
k D actually does. I'm watching this series and I think,
wasn't this the last time we'll see the Houston Rockets together? Right? Like,

(01:22:18):
think about it, Chris Paul. They make huge money, massive money,
James Harden making massive money, Clint Capella making massive money.
But Chris Paul is not getting younger, not getting younger.
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is the last we'll see of the Warriors and the
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Sports Radio. Coach, I want to get into the officiating
and and some of the posturing that's taken place previously
and if that's the same or or or dissimilar than
what we've seen recently. But just game action last night,

(01:24:06):
Uh what what? What did you see that allowed the Warriors,
even without a healthy Steph Curry? Much of that game
news in voul trouble to kind of always keep the
rockets at arms distance. Uh, there's two things that come
to mind. The thing I see in the playoffs today
is making the three ball. The team that has a
confidence in making the three ball and has an advantaged

(01:24:28):
by making maybe a lot more threes by the difference
rooms three or four threes. And you know, Thompson got
off a little bit from the three line and Durant
is the best player on the court. And the other
thing is they're starting their defensive line of starting a
goodal that gives them a defensive confidence that I don't

(01:24:48):
think they've had it since about two years ago. And
it seems like they're regrouping the defensive ends record in
a very possive way. And and I think Houston is
a difficult r And I thought, actually Houston didn't play
great and still hung in there. So I think this
series not over the and I think the home court
is something that Houston will will hopefully take advantage of.

(01:25:12):
I've been in series is where home court everybody you know,
the team wins every game on home court. It's it
doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened and
it still has that possibility though deep down, signed I
got say his goal States better team and Gold States
kind of on a mission and the guy mostly on
the mission is probably coming to rent Um. You said

(01:25:33):
Katie has been the best player on the court. Do
you think he's the best player in basketball? Uh, there's
two guys I would say now that are my favorite
players for a young and you know, John's our degreet
freaking Milwaukee is by far my favorite player has been
for six months. And I just love it. I love

(01:25:55):
how he plays. You know, he has a little bit
of a Russell Westbrook and custity to him. I apologize
to my dogs. But uh, and then I think Kevin Durant,
Kevin Durant has so many offensive skills. As a coach,
you look at Kevin Duran, you go, how do you
stop that? I mean, the only way you stop it.
Just give up a layup or give up a wind treaty.

(01:26:17):
And those are the two shots you don't want to
give up, because both your your heart, and statistics and
analytics say they're not gonna win many games if you
give those shots up. Um. Okay, So I think many
people operating in the premise that he's out right, and
it's mostly because the media reports and a little bit
because of his own noncommittal status. Um but I look

(01:26:40):
at it and I think, boy, if Houston can't win
it this year, you know, Chris Paul is finally healthy,
and he's getting older, not younger, and he's not as
dynamic as used to be. He's gonna make so much money.
Combine with Capella's money, who they can't have on the
floor late in games, uh, combine with James Harden. Like,
I almost feel like this is as just as much

(01:27:02):
or maybe more likely, Houston's last shot as it is
Golden States last shot. I'm not sure that. I mean
Chris Paul I think is dropped a little bit, but
he's still such an effient, clever, smart, uh, confident player,
and he's a good leader. He makes guys better. So

(01:27:24):
I have trouble saying that they don't have another year
or two uh. And in the end I used to
I think has been probably the most aggressive, the most
aggressive team in basketball and trying to always fix their
roster and change their roster along the way. And so

(01:27:48):
I'm not going to give up on them. I think
Cardon's and probably in his prime and has two or
three or four good years. Doug out the show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Are you you mentioned Janice and
what he was able to do last night and how
they were able to shut down the Celtic, especially in
the third quarter last night, UM which helped me out.

(01:28:11):
Game one and Game two are compolar opposites. What does
the rest of the series look like? I don't know.
I was on that A Ray Air show this morning,
and that's the one series I don't have a good
pulse on. I like Milwaukee. They probably my two favorite,
my three favorite teams all year in Sacramento, Brooklyn in Milwaukee,

(01:28:32):
because they're young. They played the right way. They played
with energy, they played with toughness, They're well coached. Um,
but you know, I'm watching them playing that Game one
was whoa, whoa, they're there. They were showing their experience here. WHOA.
The thing I don't like about Milwaukee is they're defensive.
To mention, I think they relied to a little bit

(01:28:54):
too much on offense, and I think they should be
better defensively, even though statistically they says they are good defensively. UM,
So I think it's a it's a team of inexperience
trying to be the best. And that's Milwaukee versus probably
the most experienced team in the Eastern Conference in Boston.

(01:29:14):
And you know, if I as a coach, I probably
mean to experience will win that series. But I want
Milwaukee to win that series. So I'm going I'm conflicted.
You said that that's the only series you don't have
a handle on. Do you have a handle on? Toronto
and Philadelphia? Philly really impressive, uh in their ability to
win Game two. I wonder if if if they figured

(01:29:37):
some things out playing through Jimmy Butler, putting Ben Simmons
onto Y Leonard, does that carry over the rest of
the series. Well, you know they did, Filly figure it on.
They won with defense. But it was the only game
this year that they've ever want holding a team on
their hunder points. Um. So, I'm not sure that's their personality.

(01:29:57):
In fact, I'm I'm pretty confident that it isn't their personality. Um,
but they are going home, and going home is helpful
to role players. But Philadelphia doesn't have a lot of
role players. Phildelphia doesn't have that duck deep of a bench.
Uh So I'm I'm I think Toronto has dance. I
think he's gonna be Toronto and Milwaukee, and I'm hoping

(01:30:19):
for that. And because I actually think those are the
two best defensive teams in the Eastern Coffice Denver. Denver,
it takes on Portland tonight. Obviously, Yokich was amazing. He
really tired at the end of the San Antonio series,
but he was incredible against Ennis Cantor, who you know,
defensively can't match out of them. Um, but we we've
seen other series, you know, flipped from game one to

(01:30:42):
game two. What are your thoughts on the nuggets of
the team you've coached against the Blazers. Well, I think
I think, Uh, first of all, I think Nicola has
been incredible. I think he's been maybe the best player
in the playoffs this year. I mean, I'll be honest
with Damian Lillard in Yokich, you could argue have been
the two most consistent greatness and and Lillard has always

(01:31:05):
been there before, but this is the first time m
Hm Yoki has had a chance to show who he is,
and he's impressed me. I didn't think he would perform
with this specialness, this consistency that he's performed in. So
I think tonight it's going to be the two stars
are gonna push each other to a draw and who

(01:31:27):
else is going to kick in? And because it's at home,
and because Denver probably has a few more weapons that
can win games. And I think Malone has done a
really good job of Putty Tory Craig in the lineup
and having a good I mean, they start with a
really good defensive team. Millsap is the first class defender.

(01:31:47):
Uh Corey Craig is the first class defender, and Gary
Harris is the first class defender. And so I just
think the edge right now because of their defense is
it goes Denver. Know, I mean, I mean, I know,
well question never know you never you know, ball goes in,
ball doesn't go in George carl joining us in the
Dougout Lip Show. If you were the Lakers, how would

(01:32:08):
you re kind of reconfigure yourselves? Oh, man, Um, I
think they've got to get better players. I think they
overvalued the players they had. I think they they still
got good young players, but they're not proven yet. They're
not proving themselves, and I think a little bit of

(01:32:29):
the Hollywood spotlight has build them into they think they're
better than they are. Lebron is still special. We still
one of the top five players in basketball. He's amazing
to me because he's so damn efficient and effective. But
I think they need some good players, and I think
they need to structure their their roster and maybe a

(01:32:51):
little bit better around the philosophy of their coaches. You know,
I think Luke was a young coach and he was
just giving a roster and it seemed like last year
in July Onet they just kind of picked up some
free agents and some of them made sense, someone didn't
make sense, and in the end, none of them worked. Yeah,

(01:33:14):
it's gonna be fascinating, and then you know, look to
this point, they still have Rob Polinka, who you know,
though he's been around the NBA's and agents, not like
he's been a GM before. And they have no assistant GM.
So you're kind of working and right now you have
no head coach, no president. You're kind of working a
little a little bit without a net. Well. I think
a lot of a lot of If you're trying to

(01:33:35):
win a championship, you gonna have good experience in all
departments of this, of your of your of your program.
You gotta have a good experience on the bench. You
gotta have good experience in the front office. You've gotta
have good experiences around the salary job. You're gonna have
good experiences for draft and scouting. And sometimes I look
at some of these organizations and the Lakers one of them,

(01:33:57):
and said, do they have enough experienced guys been in
this place before? And the answer probably is known al right,
not not right now? Um. George Carl joining us on
on the Doug got Lape Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM,
let me dial back to that the Houston Golden State stuff.
We've seen this, You've done it when you're coaching. Opposing

(01:34:19):
coaches have done it as well. I mean, I remember
you guys in the NBA Finals with the Sonics going
against uh, you know, going against the balls. How many
times to Phil Jackson try and get calls for the
next game by complaining about the officiating after a game.
But it does feel like Houston was a little bit different,
you know, wheeling in your analytics department from last season
to this season. I don't know, is this the same

(01:34:40):
as it's always been. Do you think it's worse than
it's always been? What? What's your take on on how
Houston handled some of the officiating from Game one preparing
for Game two? I thought they did better last night.
Last game last night, I thought I used to think
Houston playing him and I have Ale to win that
game on the road. And it's very tough called situation.

(01:35:01):
I think we're talking about referee and way too much.
And I think it's started with the referee and opening
up this window of having all this conversation during the game.
I think we have way too much conversation. I mean, Doug,
you'll remember when you couldn't talk to the referees. You know,
you're a captain, and your head coach could talk, your

(01:35:21):
assistant coaches gun talk. Now everybody chatters to the referees
about almost every call, and I know they wanted to
open up the window of communication and depart more personal
and be more human about you know that they do
miss calls and they and they want to talk about
what you're thinking about a call. But I think that
window is way too open right now, and I wish

(01:35:42):
they had shut a little bit and be a little
more of old school and call more technicals and shut
people up. Uh. He's he's George car By the way.
His book is Furious George, My fourty Years Surviving Divas
and uh uh and um clueless gms and poor shot
selection in the NBA. Pick it up. You can go
to Amazon wherever you pick up books. In the meantime, George,
thanks so much for picking on the phone discussing the

(01:36:03):
NBA with us. We really appreciate your insight. Okay, dog,
have fun with all. The NBA is good, some good
games and all right, we'll talk to you soon. That's uh,
that's George Carl himself. Well, we'll stick with the NBA.
Frankie Sola covers the NBA for The Athletic. He had
an interesting story about the NBA needing to step in
and fix the situation, re carding the players and the

(01:36:24):
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Sirious XM NBA Radio. Frank, let's let's start with last
night's game. Heading into last night's game, right, like people
talking about Scott Foster, like Scott Foster's raft of the game. Oh,
it changes everything? How is it? Well? I mean, this
is it was kind of a weird thing. Like I've
watched the NBA since I was a little kid, and

(01:38:56):
we always used to with Joey Crawford and some of
these other you know, Earl Straw long time refs we had,
we had an opinion of them, but it really felt
like the NBA was painted in a really tough spot.
An official who everybody knew, some didn't like his personality,
and this thought that the Rockets had gotten screwed going
back to last year. What are your thoughts heading in
the last night's game about officiating? How it is being handled. No,

(01:39:19):
you're right, Doug, And even on the T n T
pregame show, I thought Kenny and Turtles could do a
very good job. I thought they were being a little
unfair to Scott Boster, making all about him, how the
Rockets have an issue with him. The Rockets seemed to
have an issue with everybody. And I think most coaches
would like the fact that Scott Foster is out there
because he's kind of old school. He doesn't put up
with any nonsense. You mentioned Joe Crawford. I think Steve Javey,

(01:39:39):
you know, was a retired referees in that same boat.
A lot of the coaches, especially when they were on
the road, they liked having kind of those stern referees,
kind of letter of the law thing. I was kind
of surprised at how much of a big deal was
made over the fact that Scott Poster was officiating for
a thing that I've heard from people that he rates
pretty high among the highest referees in the league according

(01:39:59):
to the thirty teams in the NBA. So I thought
I thought that was a little unfair to him. Everyone
every ref is gonna have their moments, just like every
player is gonna have their moments in a lot of ways.
It's almost like the Rockets were cycling themselves out. But
the idea that Scott Foster was officiating, and then that
audit that they did off of Game seven last year, yeah,
I didn't. I didn't end the timing of the audit
being released and discussion about that said, it played. It

(01:40:23):
played very little part into the game. Like did they
miss calls? Yeah, but it didn't. It played very little
part into the game. Um, what do you think? What
do you think of that series? And now as we
stare at it, two games and none, the Warriors lead. Well,
you know, the Warriors are still a team that did
lose two home games to the l A Clippers, so
and they blew a thirty one point lead in one
of those. So I still think that the Rockets are

(01:40:45):
more than capable of getting back in this series. They're
gonna have to take those two home games. And also,
you know the way the schedule, it always happens. When
we get to the second round, they start to stretch
things out, so they don't play until Saturday, which I
think is a big advantage for James Harden because now
you know, see what happens over the next few days.
If he can get himself right, it will help out
the Warriors too, because remember Doug, they were playing. This

(01:41:05):
is the third game that they played every other day
dating back to Game six against the Clippers, so they
could use the rest. But I think all things consider,
I think it will help hard Now the most. And
the Rockets have we know what kind of team they are.
They're a team that relies on three point shots. And
the last time they played a home playoff game against
the Golden saying where as they missed twenty seven of them,
they did not include that in the god By folly,
and that's gonna be the big thing getting home. Can

(01:41:27):
they get the Cone crowd behind him? I think if
they take both those games there, it's gonna change a
lot because it's gonna put obviously a lot more pressure
back on the Golden State Warriors, no question about it,
No question about it. Um, do you believe Katie's the
best player in the NBA? I mean, you know Kauai
and when he's right and he wants to play. I

(01:41:48):
mean last yearly played nine games. This year, I think
he missed twenty two, was it? And Lebron obviously not
as skilled offensive, But I think Kevin Durant the role
that he's been on and Doug, isn't it weird that
like about three weeks ago, a month ago, when there
were those games where he was taking like seven, eight,
nine shots, like that's not good enough. Like the the
NBA when it comes to offense should not be an
equal opportunity lead. The best players should be taking the

(01:42:09):
most shots. And it almost seems like Kevin Durant realizing
it's the playoffs now. Just look at the way that
he's played ever since he had that little thing with
the media where he said, I'm Kevin Durant, you know
who I am. Just his last three games, fifty points
on the road, that he came back with thirty five
in Game one against Houston and last night he had
twenty nine and even that one shot that he took
in Game one, the left footed fadeaway off of one leg.

(01:42:30):
I mean, he's just so talented. I mean, how do
you I mean you would know better than mean, how
do you match up with a guy that that is
that size and that agile on the perimeters just seven
ft of playing on the perimeter. Well, they had travel
reason last year, I thought he did a better job.
I mean, like p J. Tucker, it's pretty obvious. The
plan is, you know, drive him because he's so strong,
and he tries to get into his body. And then
when you when you get smaller defenders than he posts

(01:42:51):
them up. I mean, it's it's really you just you
have to make him shoot over a body and you try.
I got to try and keep him in front, and
it's it's very I believe he's the best, and I
and and it's because he's he's playing now at the
other end. He does pass the ball, he does play
within an offense. I was a key moment last night
where he found Steph Curry and they they got a
big three when they fed him in the post. I

(01:43:12):
think I think he has been for a couple of years.
I think Kauai is probably the second best player. You
know you want to go with it when he plays.
My question about Lebron is does he have it at
the defensive end like he used to him? We won't
know until next year. And that brings me to the Rockets.
I've been asking as George Carl he disagrees, but I
don't feel like the Rockets window is wide open. You know,
like Chris Paul is still good and he was a

(01:43:33):
great player, but he's not gonna get better next year.
He's going to get older next year, and they're so
locked up to him with money. I just I feel
like this is still the Rockets best shot. Yeah, I
I give him this year and next year. I would
do that, but I would say this about them. You know,
the struggles that they had early on in the season,
you know that affected the seatings. So finishing fourth or

(01:43:53):
fifth in the Western Conference was tough because now you're
lined up with the Golden same words. I think if
you look at the Boston Celtics the last two years,
the way the seating fell, they didn't have great regular seasons,
but they kind of lucked in to their seating. Last
year they got to avoid um Lebron until the last
possible moment the Eustern Conference Finals. And this year, getting
Milwaukee in the second round isn't the worst thing for

(01:44:14):
them because Milwaukee has only one more playoff series. You know,
you figured that they have a very good chance to
win that series. I think for us in the regular
season hurt them. I still give them one more chance,
just from this standpoint. I'll give Darryl Moray credit for this.
You know, all this gamesmanship with the audit and all
that I do, I actually don't. I think it's silly,
but I get that will be he wants to do
anything it takes to win. I think they're so obsessed

(01:44:35):
with winning, which actually isn't a bad thing. It's almost
like you know that your owner, your front office is
going to try to do everything they can. They're obsessed
with trying to beat the Golden State Wars. And remember, Doug,
we don't know what's going to happen this summer, Kevin Durant.
If you were to leave the Wars and leave the
Western Conference, that changes everything. Now, all of a sudden,
the Rockets look a lot better now. I don't know
what kind of movement you're gonna get. I let it

(01:44:57):
go to the Clippers. A lot could be determined this
summer's I'm not ready to give up on Houston just yet,
but the clock is definitely kicking on Chris Paul because
we've seen this before with Chris Paul. Obviously tremendous player,
great leader, um you know good defensive players. Are you
complaining too much? Obviously? He does, But the big thing
with him has been getting hurt and last year was
a factor. And as he gets older, it's not like
it's gonna get better. And how about that last year

(01:45:18):
of the contract, he's gonna be making like four million
dollars three years around. Its almost hard to believe. Yeah, um,
do the Nicks still think they're getting Kevin Durant? Or
because go ahead? No, no, I know, because finish your question. Well,
I mean just looked at the thought has always been
like why would you leave Golden State? Well, like, you know,
he's not really getting the respect he deserves he wants.

(01:45:40):
But now people are coming around to the idea of like, oh, yeah,
Kevin redd is the best player in the NBA, and
they could like if you it's really easy to say
I won three championships and then I'm out and I
go and try it, But it sounds easier than if
he dominates the rest of the playoffs the way he
has already. He's getting the ball, he's got plenty of space,
lives in a great place, he don't want to move,

(01:46:01):
he didn't have to carry, doesn't have to build a
franchise out of nothing. Everybody says that sounds like a
good idea. Okay, Nick's haven't won in forever, you know,
I just I don't know do they still feel good
about where they stand? I I agree with you from
the Kevin Durant standpoint. I mean years people don't say, yeah,
but he did this, he did that. People don't say
that with Magic Johnson and Kareem all that oh magic.

(01:46:23):
You know they ever get magic at this guy. I mean,
great players play with great players and win championships, and
I think he would be rolling the guys. I mean,
then you know that there is they are pretty arrogant about.
I mean, the next had a seven team win season.
They act like they discovered plutonium the way that they
walk around, So there is this sense that they have
a good chance to get him. It's a lot to
you know, if you go back to last year, all

(01:46:44):
we heard was Lebron James and the Lakers. Lebron the Lakers,
Holly was the whole thing that ended up happening. But
we also heard that Paul George is gonna be going
to the Lakers, and that didn't happen. So I agree
with you. You know that if he's gonna do the
right thing, he's gonna talk to a lot of people
because he's taking the leap of faith that the Knicks
can turn this thing around, because, like you said, it's
been twenty years, they've won one playoffs years and a

(01:47:05):
lot of guys. And here's the thing. You start naming
people players and especially coaches and executives who came to
New York did help her hurt their legacy. You tell
me Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Isaiah Thomas had helped her
at hurt Amarustonomard that the helper hurt Jason kitt Mrs
last thirty shots of his career, I think playing for Knicks.
So it hasn't necessarily. I mean, even Carmelo Anthony, who
had a pretty decent run in New York, he actually

(01:47:26):
made a conference finles with Denver, he did not make
a conference finals with the Knicks. In fact, the Brooklyn
Nets won more playoff games with Darren Williams than the
Knicks did with Carmelo Anthony's That's the one thing that
Kevin Durant has to weigh. Yes, you go to New York,
you win. I get it. Everyone thinks that winning in
New York is different than winning everywhere else. That's kind of,
you know, the way New Yorkers think. But you know

(01:47:46):
it's obviously provincial. But if if it doesn't work out
for him, then he really might be thinking, what the
heck did I do? I had Steph Curry and Clay
Thompson on my team. I had a great situation, a
great city. What I'm I gotta be out of my
mind to do this, So I think that will all
come into play. Doug otlub show here on Fox Sports
Trader you you authored a piece. It talked about the

(01:48:07):
officiating and how other people in the league like, look,
this is it's worse than it's been. Um. I always
remember the Spurs complaining about the officials. I always remember
Phil Jackson complaining about the officials. I tend to remember that,
like the complaining about the officials. This is not the
first time around. Why do people in the league feel

(01:48:29):
like it's so different now? I think I think it's
a lot of players now more than ever, and I
think it's a lot more demonstrative, and I think referees
were probably quicker to give a technical foul. Do you
think you're right? I think you would see Tim Duncan
after a lot of calls, But I don't know. To me,
it just seems more consistent than ever before. And it's
a lot of the you know, just how guys are,

(01:48:51):
it's all the history onics that are involved with it.
But let me ask you this. You know, how does
Chris Paul, who bumped the ref and the lead referred
to it as aggressive and a cless behavior or aggressively
and recklessly they refer to it. How did he not
get suspended there? So I also think that the league
hasn't done enough to kind of support the referees in
these cases, and maybe being too transparent hasn't helped, Like

(01:49:12):
the Last two Minute report, like all these things, like
if you go back to what the Rockets did with
that audit, and I said, once again, it's all games
and ship, I get it, But if they called a
certain foul with eight minutes to go in the first quarter,
that that then impacts everything else that happens after that.
Do you just do what I mean? And I think
this whole last two minute report is that guys are
ating things up, saying, oh, that's right, we should have

(01:49:33):
had the foul, we should go into the free throw
line here. That doesn't work like that if those files
get called, then maybe a guy comes out of the game.
Things change based on one particular call. And I think
that last two minute report, in the league's effort to
be transparent, it's almost like they're too transparent. Yes, yeah,
well look that's the other part that I didn't like it.
But like the Houston Rockets thing is like, look, there's
a bunch of these calls that if one happens, a

(01:49:55):
guy is not going to commit a foul, or the
players will adjust, and and and and look sometimes there's
also makeup calls. Um. I just yeah, I do think
they've tried to be transparent, they've tried to be pro player,
and both have gone they've gone too much the other direction.
It's a lot like it's like the review stuff, right,
like you want to review when it's really really, really

(01:50:17):
close in terms of who the ball went off, I guess,
But in your effort to get it right, you create
time outs that didn't previously exist, and sometimes sometimes you
end up screwing up the game where you can't go
back and call a foul that might have occurred to
cause the ball to go off a team that you
didn't think it went off of. So exactly. I also
think with technology, the way that it's improved high definition,

(01:50:38):
the slow emotion. We've seen this in football where everyone
is watching everything kind of breakdown to the exact moment
and the referees are looking at a lot differently. But
go to baseball. You know when they have a home
played up part, every home plate umpire has a different
type of strikes. Yeah, they all try to be a
relatively the same, but I think players know that with
a certain umpire, his stripes niness gonna be smaller, He's
gonna call lower strikes in the players have to adjustment.

(01:51:00):
I think it's the same way in the NBA. I
think when you're playing, and you would know as better
than me if it wasn't that fixated on who was
officiating the game at all. He's been out to get
us before. How is that going to help you? Okay?
To me, it's like you're already losing the mental battle
before the game even starts. And I thought the Warriors
were smart, because we know the Warriors complained just as
much as anybody. Kevin Durant has become that, Draymond Green
has been that for a long time. But I thought

(01:51:21):
the way that they handled everything after Game one was
the right way to do it. Now they won, which
helps out a lot, but the way that they just
the tone that they struck with that you know, this
happens in every game. Calls go again, she some calls,
some calls are bad. We just got a play. We
can't worry about the referees. I actually thought that was
the right kind of tone to take heading into game two. Completely.
Are great with you, great stuff, Frank, Frank, thanks so

(01:51:41):
much for joining us. You can read Frank's work in
the Athletic. We appreciate you join us on Fox Sports Radio.
Thanks Doug. Franky Sola covers the NBA for Series x
M and The Athletic. Check them out every weekday morning.
The blatant lack of respect for NBA referees, which has
increased all season, falls on the play years in the
league office. That was part of his article before game too.

(01:52:04):
It's get you to Dan Bier who has a complete
lack of respect for me for music for Ramos had
is fake news. That is fake news, Doug. Absolutely, we
do have some news from Robert from the Robert Craft
prostitution cage. Wanted to see Robert Crafts kimbles and bits.

(01:52:26):
I don't want to see that. No, no, no, we don't,
and we could have a decision at least somewhat soon
on whether that video will ever see the light of day.
Of course, Craft's attorneys are fighting that. However. TMZ just
reporting that Craft has been ordered to appear in court
in person on MAE. That's in about three weeks or

(01:52:48):
so for a hearing in his prostitution at case. So
that's just coming down from Florida. Tonight in Denver Nuggets
a Blazers Game two of the Western Semis nine o'clock
Eastern Time, Nuggets up one oh on this series, the
NBA did resend the technical follows given a Warriors forward
Draymond Green and Rockets center. Then, in the last night's game,
to College Hoops News, Maryland's Bruno Fernando was staying in

(01:53:09):
the NBA draft. While in the Champions League, Let's Lionel
Messi scored twice. Luis Swarez added another. FC Barcelona tops
Liverpool today in the first leg three nil. In baseball,
Red Sox top the A seven to three Royals winner
against the Raise three to two in game one of
a double header. Kansas City also leads the second game

(01:53:30):
by a score of four to nothing. Pittsburgh topped the
Rangers by a score of seven to five. We'll be
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we're gonna discuss tomorrow, and I guess we'll find out, Um, well,
we'll pull everybody we have on tomorrow on the Dug
got Leap Show. I would guess Sino Day Mayo, which

(01:54:35):
is one of my favorite holidays, is the least known
about holiday. Like, I don't think anybody who's not really Latino,
really it was Mexican actually knows what Sinco de Mayo is.
And plenty of Latino even Mexican people don't know what
Sinco de Mayo ramos? Is that a fair distinction. I
know you guys apparently had a discussion about this, and
that is a very fair distinction about Cinco de Mayo

(01:54:58):
and Mexican Independence Day. Yes, what were you still give
it away? What it is? That? Well, I guess it's
not Mexican that correct, It is not very very important.
It commemorates what battle of Puebla, Yes, a battle within
the fight for Mexican independence, I believe. Yeah, right, so yes,
um it's a and like look, it's one of those like, hey,

(01:55:20):
you know what, we all like tacos Mexican be here
and Mexico is a great place to vacation, right, it
just is you know, I personally have I like Mexican
people like I I grew up in a very Latino
culture in Orange, California. But I'm gonna be honest with you.
I didn't remember it until like at some point I
this is like fifteen years ago. I was like, yeah, man,
can't wait to celebrate Mexican independence. They're like when I

(01:55:42):
was like singing to my like no, you idiot, so
I And and the more people you pull, the more
they go like do you like singing to me? Like yeah, sure,
what is it? No idea? Mexican Independence Day? That would
be the general thought. But I think it's the most celebrated,
least known about holiday. How about that one? Because I
don't think people know like the story of Hanaka, but

(01:56:05):
they got most of the cliff notes versions of it right.
They literally have no idea, nor do they actually care
to know the idea. Let's get to the press. The
press presses brought to by Discover Card. We treat you
like you treat you, Dan Buyer, treat us to the press. Please, Doug,
we started the nful. While it's been an interesting week
or so for Raider running backs, the NFL Network reports

(01:56:27):
that running back Marshawn Lynch would be interested in a
return to the Raiders. This after Isaiah crow All ruptured
his achilles tendon yesterday. The team is bringing back Doug
Martin from last season with the team also drafted running
back Josh Jacobs in the first round. So Marshall Lynch
is thinking about unretiring after retiring just yesterday recently. Yeah,

(01:56:48):
it was the Raiders weren't going to have him back.
It seemed that there was nowhere else for him to go.
But now Isaiah crow Well ruptured his achilles. So the
NFL network reporters do their work find out, you know,
what's happening maybe around the league. And someone got information
from Marshawn Lynch's people saying like, you know what, you
wouldn't come back to Oakland, but they maybe going with

(01:57:09):
Doug Martin California. Yeah, and there's there's also Duke Johnson
could be had from from Cleveland. Right, I mean Adrian
Peterson I believe is inside Adrian Peters and rush for
at thousand yards last year. Yeah, yeah, he'll be back
with Washington. Oh he did. He resigned with He resign
with them. Okay, Um, that's I mean, like, look, I

(01:57:31):
think this is the running backs. Are you mentioned Doug Martin?
Um didn't Spencer wear just signed with Indie right? He was?
He was you know, you still got h Garrett blunt.
Think it's available at you quiz Rogers, Darren Sprawls, Darren Love,

(01:57:51):
Darren Sprawls Love, Darren Sprawls. J G. I about Jji.
He's only twenty six. Yeah, but his knees a question. Yeah,
he's got some injuries, fair enough. What else he got?
I got this from the uh oh bet online, from
the NFL. I got baseball in a little bit, but
some NFL odds. You were talking with John Middlecoff last

(01:58:14):
hour about who could do what well. The New England
Patriots have the best odds to make the playoffs next season,
basically one to eight that they're in the NFL playoffs,
with the Kansas City Chiefs the second best odds right
now two to nine to make the NFL playoffs next season.
It is fascinating how we do this right. We're like,
they'll be awesome. They're not. They're usually not awesome. In

(01:58:36):
September and they play Pittsburgh on the road at Miami
the Jets and on the road at Buffalo. But if
you do you look at their schedule again on paper,
does not look crazy, daunting. It's not only crazy. They
gotta go to Baltimore in November. They gotta go to
Philly in November. They get the Cowboys at home, they

(01:58:57):
get the Chiefs at home, but that's in December. In
the Chiefs the completely different now right, just you take
away Tyreek Hill and I'm sorry, that's a completely different
looking team, probably better defensively. Um yeah, I mean, look,
you basically have three second year quarterbacks starting against Tom Brady.
But there's a lot of new pieces that Tom Brady

(01:59:17):
had gonna have to throw to bet online had it
or had the odds for all thirty two NFL teams,
And what was interesting was I think you could say
this team is gonna win this division, this team is
gonna win that division. But if they don't win the division,
what are their chances? Well, the Chargers actually at the
six best odds to make the playoffs. They would be,
if you will dug, the first team to have like

(01:59:39):
another team from their division higher than them, but the
Chargers five to eleven, So they we don't have are
under in the Chargers to do it for the win total,
I don't have winds came out before. Yeah, but this
is just odds to make the to make the postseason.
I got odds and they they have a good have
a good team, and they I thought they got better

(02:00:01):
in the draft, and you know they still haven't been
fully healthy. I mean, you know, remember they didn't have
Hunter Henry until just played a little bit in the
New England game. That's a good football team. Ryan Music
to the rescue with the wind totals Chargers and nine
and a half winds, give me over over easy adding
Jerry Tillery to that defensive line. Easy, give me the over,

(02:00:23):
especially with you know, although the Raiders will be better,
but the Chiefs are not as good. How about these
a l m v p odds Mike Trout two to
one to win the America League's Most Valuable Player and
l m v P odds, why not stay in Southern California?
Cody Bellinger of the Dodgers now the favorite at five
to two. Christian Yellow of the Brewers right behind the
met three to one. So these odds, I mean, yell

(02:00:47):
at you would think, I mean, excuse me, Bellinger, you
didn't think the odds have changed. But what about Trout?
They changing? Radeal He's always been kind of the Bellingers
increased a little bit just because maybe even because of
his hot streak and Yelloch being injured, I asked for trout.
He actually improved. Was five to two about a month
ago and now is two to one. I do find
it interesting that your guys Angels had to promote Vladimir

(02:01:10):
Guerrero Jr. To get people to the ballpark as they're
facing the Blue Jays. You only have the best player
in baseball. I know what I'm saying. Usually it's like, hey,
come check out the Hornets. Is Kevin Durant and Steph
Curry and the Warriors come to town. This was come
check out the Angels. We have the best player in baseball. VLADIMC.

(02:01:31):
Guerreo Jr. Is gonna be there with the Blue Jays
as well. It's fair. Is a fair point. Can you
how many other Angels can you name outside of pooh holes?
And Uh? I found out C. J. Crone's no longer
there the other day. I think it's been a couple
of years that he was no longer. Andrew Simmons and
Simmons you should yes, um, yeah, let's let's go to

(02:01:55):
the next Don Justin Bore meat of a man, anyway,
go ahead, Justin Upton right, He's he's an angel. The
UH where am I Pacers GM Kevin Pritchard said they
aren't sure when Victor Oladipo will return from his ruptured
quadtent and suffered in January. By the way, should we
tell him that Justin Upton is not an anxious That's fine.

(02:02:19):
I don't know. The guys are through the glass, but
nobody's on Mike, so I can't uh the Oladipo Like, look,
now we get to that's like Kawahi Leonard. Everybody said, well,
Quie Letter be back towards this thing in January. They
don't know. Not knowing is not a good thing. Like
part of it is, Let's give him the entire off
season to rehab. But that does not seem like good

(02:02:40):
news for the Pacers, for the for the Pacers, Maryland's
Bruno Fernando is going to remain in the NBA Draft
and not returned to the Terra Pintins. Interesting name, right, Bruno.
If I said guy's names, Bruno Fernando plays basketball, you
think like kind of like an unshaven six six swab forward, right,
That is not what Bruno Fernando looks like. He is.

(02:03:03):
Bruno fits. Yeah. If the college basketball corruption trial and
audio recording was played in court today, with former Arizona
assistant Book Richardson saying head coach Sean Miller paid DeAndre
Eton ten thousand dollars a month during the time Eighton
was enrolled at the school. It is just hearsay and um,

(02:03:25):
there is no proof to it, but it is not
a strong look, there's no question right, Like Seth Davis
Street like all they got is a couple of guys
yesterday You're like, yeah, I don't know if you actually
listen to this testimony. It's not good. Can't get right
and uh Messy scored twice for Barcelona and their three
nil win over Liverpool today. And Justin Upton is still

(02:03:48):
an angel. He's just not he's just injured. Just so
get out there and pressed press. You're right, technically you're
right by her, You're you're absolutely right. I just healthy ones, yes, yes,
all right, boys, who do we like tonight? We got
one NBA game? Hey, I'm just tell you, I think

(02:04:12):
the Nuggets take a commanding two games to done lead
their four point favorite music? Would you like? I will
go with the trail Blazers Odd even it out? What
about you, Dan Buyer, I've got four to row. Guys,
I am going with the Blazers to even it up tonight.
Blazers even up a second game in altitude, always a
tough one for the road team. What about you? Rama?
All Right? Tomorrow we'll find out if anybody knows that

(02:04:32):
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