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Happy Friday for you, Welcome in. It is a black
Friday here on Fox Sports Radio. For the next three hours,
Moncy Milanios and I have got you covered, including the
football action in the program game and in the college game.
People forget Monci. The last year Georgia Tech had Georgia
on the ropes. I mean it was Georgia was out
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of it, come back, got a huge win last year,
able to make the playoffs. Now they lost an notre
name in the quarterfinals, but Georgia Tech had them on
the rope. As they're playing again right now and Georgia
Tech just forced to turnover. So they'll have the football
in Bulldog's territory coming up here in just a little bit.
That in addition to the Bears Eagles game that we are.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Watching, you're more in tune with all the things going
on in college football, specifically the playoff picture.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Georgia Tech, if they.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Happen to pull this off, do they get into the
playoff picture?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, it was going to be difficult because of the
ACC championship game right now. If this is a non
conference game, they have two conference losses, they have three
teams ahead of them, three schools ahead of them with
one loss, so they would need a lot of help
to get in and a win here probably doesn't move
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them up in the rankings high enough where they need
to be, but it could maybe make people pay attention
more and if.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Others lose, maybe yes, it can help them.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I think it's kind of a long shot.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know, if we were have talked a couple of
weeks ago before they lost to Pitt like they did,
then there's a whole different conversation about Georgia Tech. But
I think it's more about the Virginia excuse me, the
Georgia aspect of this. Where Georgia you've got the SEC
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championship game on the horizon. Ole miss wins today, there's
a lot at stake, first round buying, the whole deal.
And if you don't win today, now there's going to
be a lot of confluence of events that the committee
is going to have to sort.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Fun.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
We shall see.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm trying to do it in the most succinct way
possible because it's easier, like when Auburn and Alabama play,
it's a little bit easier because it's a conference game
and it sorts itself out. However, in a non conference
situation where all of Georgia's SEC games are in the
barn and it just makes it a little bit more tricky.
So anyway, she is Manti Bellinios. I'm Dan Byer speaking
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of the college game. Before we get to the Dallas Cowboys,
Isaac Mid mentioned that Lane Kiffin spoke after their Egg
Bowl win against Mississippi State with ABC. This is what
the old miss coach had to say after the contest today.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Man, THEOSO far that is that sounds like someone who's
one step out the door. Absolutely, you're gonna make this important.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Decision in a matter of hours.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
You're gonna go home and think about It's yeah, that's
a lie. That portion is a lie, the facade of
thinking that you have not thought about the job and
your whole sole focus has been on the egg Bowl.
When your family has toured Gainesville and Baton Rouge when
all of that has happened. When the statement was released
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that there will be an announcement on Saturday, you're not
making a twenty four hour window.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
No one believes that, No.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I mean, I'm glad your team won, but this whole
thing has been handled. I know that the calendar it
forces a hand like this, but it's been handled not well.
And I don't know how to fix it, but I would.
I would be so annoyed if I was a rebel playing.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
For this guy, you would be annoyed.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I would be annoyed, really like as so a football player,
you would be annoyed with my.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Coach entertaining this idea when we're having such a successful
season that you want to leave.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I understand that, but I don't I I get that
portion of it. I didn't believe link Kiffen when he
said earlier in the week that guys players are different,
players are kids are different now.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But which we talked about, I think that I think.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That the players. I think that you have to have
an understanding of who you are and where you are
and what is happening now. Ole miss can say right now,
we're better than LSU. We're better than LSU. Look, we
won more games. We're a better team, Like we are
better than LSU. Is it a better program than LSU?
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Is it a better job than LSU? Those are the
decisions that link Kiffin is making, Like this twenty twenty
five version of ole Miss is no doubt better than LSU.
But is Lane Kiffen going to have another year like
this for ole Miss? Is this the start of something big?
I don't know if it is, and I think that
he doesn't know if it is, and which is the
reason why he's entertained these other spots. If you thought
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that ole Miss was a sleeping giant that was about
to become in Alabama, Georgia or LSU or even what
Florida was, then you're not entertaining these calls. And I
don't think that Lane Kiffen believes that that is the case.
But if I'm a player right now, yeah, like it
may stink, but you kind of have to understand where
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he's he's coming from. I wish he would stay. I do, but.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
It's I was in Monty.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You caught me in a spot where I had rose
colored glasses on a week ago because I thought that
there would be a way for Lane Kiffin to take
another job and coach ole Miss through the playoffs, and
it's that's not feasible, but it's not feasible. I didn't
think because of the players. The reason that I thought
that was a good idea was because of the players.
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So that's why I'm caught in this spot is I
just don't think that the thousands and thousands of Ole
Miss fans and that would be traveling and the boosters
there would like it that Lane Kiffen was about to leave.
I don't think that administrators would like that he would
still be coaching Ole Miss when he's about to be
the next head coach at LSU. I don't think els
you would like it now as I thought about it,
But I didn't think it was about the players. So
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that's the whole reason that I thought that. But I
think that the reason now in why you caught me
is I still think that the players may understand. And
it's not that the players also have the option to leave,
because not every player does, but I just think that
they're more rational in what this than someone who bleeds
Ole Miss Rebel, blue and red.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And maybe you're right and you know, maybe he has
been more upfront with his players than we know of,
and he has been fully transparent, and so maybe they're
not feeling like this, but the picture from the outside
looking in, it just seems like you're you're messing with
my emotions. If I am a student at ole miss
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or a player, you're messing with my emotions at this point.
Maybe he has been transparent with them, right, and this
is just for us on the outside looking in to
see it this way.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But I don't all of this.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It just is not how do you go into the
end of the season when you're having such a historic
season and want to play to your fullest and be
you know, vibes, big on vibes and have the right
vibes with your team when you're one foot out the door.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You're one foot out the door, and it looks like
you're going to LSU because Florida already. Right, the reports
are that Florida has kind of moved on because they
felt like there's been not a lot of clear communication.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
On his end.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So it's LSU is where he's going, which again we
talked about this Dan earlier. I was like, why would
you go and want to kind of rewrite the history
that is LSU because that's the only way you're gonna
make a name for yourself. Are you gonna be better
than the coaches that have been at LSU, because there's
been some pretty big names.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, Nick Saban, Yeah, that's a pretty big name, big one. However,
Nick Saban again left LSU for the NFL and then
goes to Alabama, and now we really kind of forget
that he was I don't we don't forget he was
ls He's coach, but he's known as.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Alabama's absolutely, but he's also Nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Les Miles won a national championship at LSU. At Orgeron
won a national championship at LSU. Neither of them have
jobs right now. And I think what Lane Kiffin says is, well,
I may not be like Nick Saban, who I coached under,
but I know ed Orgeron. I'm familiar with him from
the USC days. And I think Lane Kiffin probably finds
himself in the middle of Nick Saban and the less
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Miles and ed Orgeron, And you know what that is,
that's multi that's a national championship team. Maybe not multi
national championships. But I think his point is is if
I get the players in the funding and the salary
that I would desire, and I don't know if it's
totally about money, but that would be the place to
go where you can consistently win. And if this is
the greatest season in ole Miss history, Manzi, when you
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still had players transferring out of the transfer portal recently
over the last couple of years and going to other
top elite programs, I think that tells you that it's
probably not sustainable for ole Miss. And that's where, like
I always just come back to the fact that I
think ole Miss has to remember that they're ole Miss
and that they're not going to be LSU Florida. It's
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crazy because Florida has been on tough times, but Alabama
and Georgia and those in that breath here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show, whenever you hear Doug talk about programs
and programs of money and who's backing the school that
he always mentions is Texas A and M.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Look at Texas A and M right now.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, they're on the verge of being in the
SEC Championship game. So much at stake for them. Now
you've added another school to the mix that is now
competing at a high level. Either are in Texas and Oklahoma,
makes it even more difficult for Old Miss to compete.
So I think link Kiffin understands the big picture all
of this. My heart really would like him to stay
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at Ole Miss, but I think the players understand it.
It just feels like there's a bit of a game
going on right now. I don't know how you avoid
the game. I think that the statement last week didn't
help the game that they are playing. And I'm using
in an air coute quotes almost like a game that
you would play in a relationship. But to sit there
and say you're going to have an announcement on Saturday
and play a game on Friday, and then use the
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next twenty four hours to pray as you were praying
for or preparing for this game just isn't realistic to me.
We know he's been thinking about this job for weeks
and weeks and weeks, and those comments there kind of
tell us what's going to happen. It would be the
upset of the century. If he stays in Oxford, it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Would be the upset of the centric except for everybody
at ole Miss.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You know, they would love it, but I think that
they think he's gone as well.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, it does seem that way, absolutely, But so you
think like this is as good as it's going to
get for Ole Miss. Yes, and so he knows that, Yes,
and that's why he's one foot out.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yes, that's exactly. That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Especially in the arms race of what college football is now,
it's actually worse. And it's why when people have talked
over the last couple of years of why doesn't college
football just go to like an NFL model and I
have thirty or forty teams, Like there's you know, the
NFL is based on parody. But even if you have
thirty or forty teams, they're going to be have nots
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and haves. In college football there always have been in
talking to and hearing people talk about twenty years ago,
teams that would emerge. You would always trade your roster
for what say Ohio State had, for what back then
USC had, for what LSU. If you're ninety five percent
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of college football, you are trading your entire roster for
what those schools have. And it's just difficult for Ole
Miss to do this year in and year out, and
for Lane Kiffin to do it. I think that he
understands that that if he wants to do what he
wants to do and do at the highest level, it's
probably not gonna happen at in Oxford even with this
magical season.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But with the ever changing landscape that is college football,
I feel like there's just gonna be constant revolving doors
everywhere with coaching with players in the whole thing. Right,
So like this building of a program, you're gonna you're
gonna go to LSU and the pressure. I don't know
how how short or long his leash is gonna be
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because LSU is expecting greatness here, great point.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Here with ole Miss. You're you're great, You're loved, You're
the hero.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
US isn't always greener.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, And so I am having a hard I'm having
a hard time.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But even even if it's I mean that this is
as good as is gonna get.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
But why is that? Why does it have to be bad?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Because if if the landscape is what Lane Kiffin and
people believe, there's a chance that Ole Miss could fall
on hard times in lane Kiffen could be out of
a job in three years.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
That mean it's the same situation at LSU.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, and get paid significantly more or have more opportunity
to bring in players so that doesn't happen with more money.
The drawback to LSU that I actually think is how
crazy things have gone over the last couple of months
with Brian Kelly firing the ad, with the governor getting involved. Now,
that would be the crazy part of the relationship where
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I'm like, all right, I'm not really necessarily keen on
all these cooks in the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
But we talked with.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Chris Gordy yesterday who hosts on Lockdown SEC and Chris
a part of our affiliate in Houston at Sports Talk
seven ninety, and he said that that isn't the case,
that it's more stable than what's been going on. And
there's obviously been a change in the hierarchy, AD and
head coach, But that would be the worry to me
if all of the politicians are in it. And I
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don't know the landscape of the the of what it
looks like in Mississippi, but everybody's all in on LSU football,
and that is it. It's just at at another level
and I think that Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin understands that,
and we wouldn't have would we would understand more if
Ole Miss was eight and four, not with a one
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loss team on the verge of maybe doing some.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Damage in the College Football playoff.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But if they were eight and four, we would all
understand this and it would be a lot easier to understand.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I think that's a good point. That it's just
seeing the schedule and seeing what they're doing. Like really,
and like I feel like again he wasn't NFL. You've
done it, You've done it right. You went beyond and
you did the pros and here you're now back in
college football. And sometimes the simplicity is better than the
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complicated world at LSU or the governor.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
The governor is going to get involved with you. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I agree, Like I would.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Prefer leave me alone over here.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I think that it's not always greener. I think everybody
is probably learn that lesson at some point, but Lane
Kiffin wants I think that opportunity and considering where his
road has been.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
When you go and.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You're at Tennessee and you leave after a year to
take your dream job at USC, that's probably something else
that kind of burns at him that it didn't work
out at USC, So is this all that I'm going
to do? So, yeah, he coached in the pros, but
it didn't work out in the pros. Maybe that's what
would be next after LSU. If it works at LSU,
who knows?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Back to the pros?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Who knows? Yeah, I mean that would probably be the
next step.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know where else you would go in college
football to if you were to succeed at LSU to
have that success. But there's probably something that he wants
to do that he hasn't accomplished, and I think that
that's what would allow him to do that is try
to I don't know. It's not righting the wrong of
the USC, but I think he has another crack at
what he didn't accomplish in LA. She's Moncey Milanio. So
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I'm dan Byer. But again, decision tomorrow. A lot of
praying tonight for Lane Kiffin and then we'll find out
whether he stays or goes. Ready, Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
He gone.
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Find Moncy on ex at Manzi Blanos, you can find
me at Dan Byer on Fox. Just to put a
bow on the lane Kiffen thing. I don't know if
this is the perfect analogy, but I'm going to try
to make it in a way that many can relate to.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
So when Steve Carell left the office, oh great show.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
People were so disappointed to see Steve Carell leave. Yes,
but it was probably the right time for Steve Correll,
who had worked his way up and has this starring
role that he absolutely kills. And because of that starring role,
now there are so many in this TV show, there's
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so many other opportunities afforded to him, main character stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Ryan Berschinger is a big movie guy like Steve Carrell
has probably afforded main roles in feature films right from
the success of The Office.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yes, yeah, he's gotten a ton for yes so.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And while he did other great movies and we had
seen movies in the past, four year Old Virgin and
stuff like that, there are just more opportunities for him
instead of just always being Michael Scott. And at some
point the Office is going to come to an end. Right,
So it stunk if you were a fan of the Office,
because the show was never the same, just like it
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stinks for Old Miss. But could we really be mad
at Steve Carrell for making that decision to move on
to the next level?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Damn you, Dan Byer?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Is that is that fair enough?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yes? I suppose, But I will say till that if
we think of today Steve Carell.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You think of him as Michael Scott, no matter what
he did, no matter what he left to do.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You remember him as Michael Scott.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yes, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So he went on and had success and it's money.
Like really the reason is money, right, because the Office
was going to come to an end. He could have
finished it out, but he didn't. He went on and
made more money and at the moment because he was popular.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
But there's there's something else to that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So like in the British version, the UK version of
The Office, that just was a couple of seasons with
Ricky Gervais was all So one of the reasons why
that ended is they just it was so good as
it was, Yeah, and it was there was there was
gonna be no watering down. There's no way to tell.
And I love your point of just of the grass
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isn't always green, or stay where it's good, but you
just you don't know what the other side is. And
I think that that's it could water down what you
did in that area, in that spot, and that's where
I think that Lane Kiffen has the decision. I wish
you would stay at Old Miss. I think it would
be great, but I just don't think that that's realistic
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from what we heard him say today and what we've
just know in the world of college football.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
When I was in quick story, When I was in
high school, one of my favorite teachers, Larry Natividad. He
may be listening Larry Natividad. The middle of my senior year,
one of my favorite classes, he makes an announcement to us,
I'm leaving.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I'm going to go be.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Mayor.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
He was. He was leaving, and I was so mad
at him because it was in the middle of my
senior year and he was one of my favorite teachers.
And he went on and he never went back to teaching.
He became a dean, but he was like the mayor
of ar Tegia. He went and got into politics and
like the whole thing. And now he's a principal at
another school. But I was like, you, you're just leaving us,
and you're just leaving us, and that's kind of how
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I feel like. Maybe that's that's why I'm like, if
I was a rebel, if I was a football player,
I'd be so mad right now because I think of
that moment.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The one chance you get and then your coach leaves
at the end of it, and then but he got
you to that point.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, but if but if he takes another job and
they continue playing in the in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
He's not even gonna be there. He's not even gonna
see it through.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And again with the scenarios that we laid out, or
we didn't lay out the scenarios, but there are ways
that ole Miss could end up playing in the SEC
championship game if certain outcomes fall that they do with
Texas and Texas, A and M in Alabama and Auburn
yet to play.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
So yeah, so those are all its.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, he's gonna be sitting in a suite watching his
team in a championship game.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, yes, but timing, it's tough to get it with
perfect timing, with anything. It's if you waited for that,
you'd be waiting forever, just like I forgot his last
name of just like principal.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yes, just like that. You couldn't wait. He had to
make that decision at that time.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
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I don't think that there's a question. I think it
should be the it's it's not should I stare? Should
I go?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
When?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Should I leave?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
He's got the answer already.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I thought I had the answer prior to this Eagles
Philadelphia game. It's why I wanted to talk about what
team you would rather be a fan over the next
three years or feel as a better short term future,
Philadelphia or Chicago, because I thought at this point Philadelphia
would be up seventeen to three at the half, Sakuan
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Barkley would have broken out of his funk, Jalen Hurts
would have hit AJ Brown for a touchdown pass, and
all would be right in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
After blowing that lead last week against Dallas. That's not
the case.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The Bears have moved the football with ease today against Philadelphia.
The Eagles really haven't done anything offensively. Jalen Hurts just
has the fifty seven yards passing and the Eagles trail
ten to three. So now it may be a very
silly question to say, is there more hope for Philadelphia
or Chicago in the future and looking at what we've
(23:44):
got right now. The reason I posed the question Monzi
was because we expect Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson to
grow in Chicago. But Horry Roseman and the Eagles have
been able to put together a team in an organization
maybe unlike that we've seen in recent history of being
able to just load up on talent and load up
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on talent and load up on more talent. But this
outcome right now is not making my point to the
topic where I think the Bears would be the team
you would look at for.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
The next three years.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think that's the trendy answer right now because of
how the Bears look. But despite the fact that the
Eagles got shut out in the second half against the
Cowboys and in this first half just got a field goal.
Is not something that should make you feel good if
you're an Eagles fan. But I would still take I
would still say I am more confident in the Eagles,
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if I'm being honest with you. I know the silliness
and all that stuff going on in the locker room
is something we've been discussing, but at this point I'm
not ready to say that they can't. They still can't
be successful in the next three years. They have a
good defense, they have good players. I would still stick
with the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But the Bears again have had They're good. They're good.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Let me ask you this question.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
If I were to say that Jalen Hurts was your
quarterback for the next three years, would that change anything?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, I think the Eagle success is because of Jalen Hurts.
Like their system, what they're doing is successful with Jalen Hurts.
If you're bringing in another quarterback, I think you're changing
what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Okay, because I actually look at it where I would
have confidence in Howie Roseman to be able to swing
a deal or make a deal to upgrade at the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Position, then yeah, they could do that. But then we
would be seeing a different Phillies team. They would take
a different approach to how to win and score.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Like Saquon Barkley isn't going to be Saquon Barkley three
years from now. No, he's not Saquon Barkley from last
year that we've seen. And we don't know if it's
the chicken or the egg, but I think it's a
little bit of both. Quite a workload last year. This
year things aren't the same. I think that there's been
a little bit of a deterioration along the offensive line.
They've had to deal with injuries, but again, everybody deals
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with injuries. I look at the Bears and Ben Johnson
in this partnership. Again, I thought Chicago was a fraud.
I thought that their eight and three record was one
against teams that you should beat and when you really
ended up facing the better teams in your conference, the
Bears were going to have to face the music. They
lost to the Lions earlier this year. They've got the
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Packers in a funky schedule thing where they played each
other and basically twice in the span of three weeks.
It's happened to other teams as well. But I just
looked at the Eagles. Manzi with confidence in the front
office and Howie Roseman as opposed to what maybe Ryan
Poles and the Bears would put around Ben Johnson and
Caleb Williams. Is the reason why I would have said
I believe in the Eagles more. But seeing how the
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Eagles are playing right now, one game shouldn't necessarily change
my mind. But I think that you would end up
having to make a change at quarterback in Philadelphia, and
I would trust Roseman in the Eagles brass to be
able to do that. I don't know who it's going
to be. I don't know if you just throw everything
at Cincinnati and say we'll give you whatever you want
for Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, but the Jets have the
same plan. Some people think that even Minnesota could try
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to do something, which I don't think that that's the case.
But I would trust Howie Roseman to be able to
make a move for Philadelphia. And right now, the Eagles
just went out on their opening possession.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
What are we saying.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I'm seeing a lot of fingers. Some thumbs are now
on their are other fingers. But opening drive of the
second half to fifty nine seconds off the clock and
now the Eagles are punning on fourth and ninth.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
No boy, no, no boy?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And also like another part of it, why again, you don't.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Want to change your mind on one game.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But you're looking at the Bears and wy you just
mentioned Saquon Barkley and all of that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
The Bears are the younger team, yes, you know they
are the younger team. But the Eagles, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I think Howie Roseman and like, their defense is still
good and you need a defense like that is the
most important thing.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So I'm not ready to completely move on from the
Eagles or yet.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Y good.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm glad that you're not being swayed by this outcome
today because it is a bigger picture of what's happening today. Yes,
but I truly, as we were talking in our pre
show meetings before this game started, we put it at
this point because it was about halftime.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It's going to be halftime. They're just coming out.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thought, what a perfect what a perfect opportunity for us
to say, yes, the Eagles of the team you're going
to want to be. Yeah, the Bears are the hot
thing right now, but the Eagles have the lead and
confidence in their front office. We'll stick with half of
that confidence in the front office to make changes. I
don't think that the Jalen Hurts era can last too
much longer in Philadelphia, and I've made this point on
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Doug Show before. I actually think that Jalen Hurts winning
the Super Bowl last year with Philadelphia makes it easier
for them to move on, because if you had a
quarterback that was taking you to the playoffs. It's tough
to find a guy who's like, all right, he's the
one that's going to put us over that hump. Matthew
Stafford was able to do that for the Rams, where
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they replace him with Jared Goff. In that trade, they
found the quarterback that could get them the super Bowl title.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
But that is not easy to do.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And I thought it would be more difficult for them
to move away from Hurts being so close. But now
that they've won it and it feels like they've maxed
out or the offense is maxed out with him, I
think it'll be easier for them to move on from him.
And whether aj Brown is still there, who knows. And
whether Saquan's there, who knows. But I think winning last
year actually helps them move on from Jalen Hurts if
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they choose to at some point.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But you know, we're talking about two to three years, right,
and I think Jalen Hurts can still be their quarterback
for two to three years. Beyond that, I can see
a change that the Eagles make a massive change and
just but that's five years.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
If Jalen Hurts was back next year, Yeah, and there
was more of the same. I have no idea how
he'd be able to be back in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Fair they're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
They're eight and three. I'm sure the heck. They're playing
on a Friday, so they have the rest of the weekend.
Usually you gotta go back to work on Monday. At
least these guys have the Saturday and Sunday to deal with.
They'm not very happy. Bears facing a third and five
on their own thirty nine yard line again, up ten
three in that contest. She's monte, I'm dan. Sesame Street
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. This is what happens
in Philadelphia when people try to stick up for AJ
Brown and supports his Shenanigans. This is what happens. She's
Montey Belanieos, I'm dan Byer. Jalen Hurts feels pressure and
tries to make a play with his legs and then
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tries to force one into AJ Brown and it gets
picked off. Now it hurts his first interception in one
hundred and fifty six passes. Hasn't thrown an interception since
Week six. But you're down ten three, everybody's frustrated. You
try to make a play. Let's go to the guy
who's the most frustrated, and it's an easy interception and
it sets the Bears up at midfield. Now the Bears
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have to do something with the football. But this is
what happens. This is forcing it. This is the pressure.
This is also what happens when you bow your team
off the field at halftime. This all builds up.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yes, I was gonna say, because you're tense now, Yeah,
because you're tense, you're not feeling good about your performance.
Everyone is telling you that you are not doing your job,
and you get tense and then you start, you know,
trying to make the hero play.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I mean, that was a great interception.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That was, Yeah, but it was an interception that you
could see coming from a mile away. Sure like when
the defender is running towards the quarterback to make the interception,
he's got to break on the ball. Yeah, and it
doesn't have any chance. But luckily for the Bear or
excuse me for the egos, the Bears couldn't do anything
with it. So they're going to punt it back to Philadelphia,
who's going to start the next drive from the seven
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yard line. But this is what happens when things aren't
going well. Try to make plays, and you can't do
it when you're trying to force it. This show sponsored
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miracle is that Isaac Lohnkron got his voice back. I
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don't know if it's turkey and gravy, but he's here
with the press.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Yeah, we're actually going to have another Thanksgiving miracle as
part of this edition of the Press. But first of all,
obviously the dominant story of the day to reset ole
miss head coach Lane Kiffin his team winning the Egg
Bowl at Mississippi State, and Kiffen was interviewed immediately there
after on the field on ESPN.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I have never made a decision based off of money North.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Oh sorry, Lane, Sorry, Lane, I apologize that was actually
the wrong, wrong sound bite. Here was the correct set,
you know what. To be honest, we have so many
Lane Kiffen. Are you going?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Are you saying? Are you going? Are you staying?
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Here's what happened after the game.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
You told us this week you had not made up
your mind as to what you would be doing next season.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
At this point, have you made up your mind?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:33):
I haven't.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
I got a lot of praying to do to figure
that out tomorrow. But right now and I'm just going
to go enjoy these players. I told him last night,
you're going in You're eleven game and all I want
to do is experienced joy watching you.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
And that's what I'm about to do.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, last time watching you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Clay Travis put out that he should do like a
recruiting hat sort of deal, like there should be the
ole miss Lsu look, you know, like how recruits will
have the hats and like, I've decided to play.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I went to Harry Potter.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Sorry, okay, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Even know anything about Harry Potter. I didn't realize you
went to Harry Potter first. Did you know she went
to to Oh yeah, yeah of course Ryan Smith. Did
you know no idea what she's talking about?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Mary?
Speaker 8 (34:14):
You know what, there's there's no either or with our crew.
It's like, oh yeah, I heard about it. It's like
we either a huge Harry Potter fans or we have
we have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, Lane Kiffin would have the recruiting hats in front
of him. So when the recruits picked, like hey I'm
roll Tod, I'm going to Alabama, they grab the Alabama hat.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Maybe he'll do a psych out.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Maybe he'll grab the LSU hat in the nail of
an old miss shirt underneath and wear that.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
But do they ever happen without the fake out? I
feel like I only ever seen mackouts.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
The best fake out was the guy who didn't even
wasn't even recruited, but they had an announcement. Have you
seen this couple of years ago?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
I think this happened, Yes, good poll.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
He said he was going to play football at Cal,
which is a perfect school to do because it's not
LSU or Alabama or like we would know. But it
was Cal Wanse and the guy wasn't recruited at all,
had an announcement, had a col shirt and hat and
found out that and we found out later that he
was not going to play at Cal.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Yeah, and everybody on social media fell for it, hook
line and sinker. I'll try to contain my amazement. All right,
here's the Thanksgiving miracles. So I didn't even know this
was going on, but a FOEBA World Cup qualifying game
in London between Great Britain and Lithuania. Great Britain led
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Lithuania with fifteen seconds left to play eighty seven to eighty.
Lithuania came back to win the game, come back from
a seven point deficit in fifteen seconds. So I'm gonna
play you what happened with three and a half second left.
Great Britain was inbounding the ball still with the lead.
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They were up by two. Lithuania stole the inbound pass
hit a half court shot to win the game. And
here's how it sounded in England and play for a.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Miss of sub description.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
We til throws it all a sudden spills it.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
So do you know this for the way, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
My goodness, not the way the kidd on the puzzle,
how simply just home.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
And kudos to that British guy for keeping his composure
on the call.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Today as well. And Isaac said World Cup. I thought
soccer and he said great one. When he said Great Britain,
I'm like, like, did he say Olympics? Maybe maybe e
ment Olympics. Then when he said it was eighty seven
to eighty, I go, probably not soccer.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yes, yes, I save and another goal.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's fifty eight fifty six here the forty ninth minute.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I would do all that.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, yes, I thought it was soccer. We're not at soccer, okay, okay,
oh wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
They're making their ninth goalie change. This son only gave
up eight, but still change is needed.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
The BUSSA.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
And that concludes this Black Friday edition of the Press.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
They get out there and pressed. That was the press.
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Speaker 2 (37:27):
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