November 28, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos, in for Doug, react to the Chiefs, Lions, and Ravens all losing on Thanksgiving and they explain why one of these teams' struggles are not as surprising as you think. Did the Bengals ruin their season by not playing Joe Burrow last week? Plus, what is the best football holiday?!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hopefully the Thanksgiving hangover is mild, whether it be from
food or other vices. Welcome in. It's a Black Friday,
but there's no dark cloud here, Moncy. Four hours of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, boom, what up America.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Monsey and I are
in for Doug today, who was just in for the
Herd and Colin Cowherd. But we're also going to be
in later on for Cavino and Rich. So it's four
hours of us talking a lot of football, some NBA
as well college variety of the pig skin. But we
start in the National Football League as the Eagles and
(00:54):
Bears are about to start in Philadelphia in their Black
Friday game. But I want to focus on one happened
yesterday because in the Thanksgiving affairs that we had in Detroit,
in Dallas, Arlington, to be specific, and in Baltimore. The
three favorites yesterday heading into the game, the Lions were
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favored by two and a half over the Packers, Chiefs,
who were about a field goal favorite over the Cowboys,
and the Ravens a touchdown favorite over the Cincinnati Bengals.
All fell. They were all defeated by their underdog opponents.
And as I'm watching Joe Burrow return to the Cincinnati
Bengals and I'm watching the Ravens fall apart, I'm saying
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to myself, this is a lot of what we saw
earlier today. These teams that we were accustomed to had
two years ago, Monzi, the Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions were
the three of the four best teams we had in
the National Football League, like truly, like the Lions we
know were a quarter all away from going to the
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Super Bowl. All the Chiefs and Ravens played great games.
This is where we are in the NFL. And it
felt like yesterday and Week thirteen, before all of our
eyes on Thanksgiving Day, what's going to be the highest
rated games that we're going to see all regular season.
It felt like it was a bit of a changing
of the guard with those three defeats.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yesterday's games just proved what we have seen all season.
There is no dominant team, and the teams that we
expected to be dominant coming off of last season have
been underwhelming. The teams that have surprised you, there's several
teams surprising us this season, and it's none of the
teams that we anticipated or expected. It's just this has
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just been the season. I thought that that's what the
show key scene of it was. It's like, this is
that type of season. I really don't know who's who
anymore and who is going to come out on top.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know who the dominant teams are. I don't either,
but I do know that it's definitely not these three teams.
Yeah yeah, I know that for sure. And I don't
know if you have the same feeling that I did.
But one team stood out to me in being the
biggest failure. Did a team stand out to you yesterday?
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And it kind of hits you to say, like, huh, okay,
there's something more to this. Did you have any of that?
Because I'm gonna make a case for one of the teams.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think I felt that with all of them, but
there may be one that a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You want to know what team I'm worried about the most.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What team were you worried about?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The Moe the Lions.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That's what I was gonna say. Really, yes, I didn't
think you were going to pick the line.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's why what do you think I was going to say?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I thought you were going to say maybe the Chiefs,
because the Chiefs were so long.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Their defense, you know, was so good, and right now
it's like their defense is not there, and that has
been the last couple of weeks. But to me, the
Lions are the ones where they're like, oh no, it
does seem like you are not at all what I
was expecting. It seems like the minute you rattle Jared
Goff just a little bit, he cannot do much. If
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he is all the time in the world, he's great.
But the minute you rattle him, Jared Goff looks rough out.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
There, and it's rougher without Amanas Saint Brown, of course,
who's got a low angle sprain. They play next week
on Thursday night against the Cowboys, so it's after that
that Amanara Sam Brown's likely going to get his full rest.
Maybe he plays in week fourteen. I'm not sure, but
when Dan Campbell gave the timetable out yesterday, it said
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maybe one to two week injury, and that lends to
him maybe getting the extra time because they'll have exactly
one week before they play their next game, which again
is Thursday against the Cowboys. The reason I didn't pick
the Chiefs and the reason I didn't pick the Ravens
is because of their quarterbacks. Like I don't think Lamar
looks the same either. Are a couple of runs last night
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that I thought, Okay, this is more of the old Lamar.
But I just don't think that he's fully back from
the hamstring injury. But I think he will at some point,
and it may be in twenty twenty six, So I'm
not worried about that. I'm not worried about Patrick Mahomes.
Andy Reid's going to retire some day. I don't think
it's going to be after this season. I think the
Chiefs will figure something out that Travis Kelcey obviously has
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a decision at the end of last year. But when
I look at the Lions and you mentioned, like Jared
Goff and we mentioned the lack of coordinators, I go
back to the game that I mentioned earlier of the
Lions being about a quarter away from the Super Bowl,
and it's just very likely, Mancy, that that is as
close as the Lions are going to get with this
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version of the team. And this version of the team
is going to change at some point, just like the
version of the Chiefs changed, just like the version of
the Ravens will probably change. But the Ravens in Chiefs
have their quarterback, and it's not that Jared Goff. This
isn't a referendum on Jared Goff. I just think that
the Lions may have had their run. And it's so
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surprising me because now you need Frank Reraig now to
come out of retirement. I've loved their offensive line more
so than what Baltimore and Kansas City's at. Kansas City's
got problems on the offensive line. Now they've got injuries
littered across the line. So it's probably not going to
be the year for the Chiefs. But I just look
at how close the Lions came a couple of years ago.
Their defense doesn't seem to be anywhere near anything to
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stop anything. And if you're going to put everything on
the shoulders of Jamier Gibbs, I mean, even the what
was what was their nickname? I was gonna call him
thunder and Lightning, but it wasn't. Yes and knuckles is
that it does that sound right? Right? Character? Okay, Yes,
that's David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. It's not the same
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Like Gibbs is great, David Montgomery doesn't seem to have
the same effect that he's had previously. So I'm just
really worried about the Lions, and as they've been a
great story. They've been a team that people have wanted
to follow and wanted to cheer for because of how
bad they've been for so long. But now when you
lose both of your coordinators dead coaching jobs, those coordinators
take other coaches. Dan Campbell has got the culture at
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some point. I I hope the message doesn't ring hollow.
But I'm more worried about the Lions than I am
the other two teams about bouncing back and continuing success
over the next couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, I think you said it right.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
It's just last year we really saw the Lions have
this like step on your throat mentality, have this offense
that almost seemed unstoppable, and then this year everything is
just a little bit underwhelming now. The losing your coordinators,
of course that was a big thing, but you also
weren't gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Change the scheme that much, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Like Dan Campbell's been there, so like you, why would
you things were gonna You were gonna stay on the
same game, the game plan that you had and in
a in a year where like there is no dominant team,
I really thought the Lions were gonna look, at least
offensively like the team we had seen last year that
just did not care if they dropped seventy seventy on.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You, it didn't matter. The more we score the better.
They can't. They can't. They don't look like that right now.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
They don't look like that team and it's only one
year removed, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They went to Baltimore earlier this season and had a
big win when Lamar was was healthy at that that
point of the season, and then they ended up losing
to the Chiefs. The lost the home game to the Vikings,
and we saw what happened against the Eagles. I thought
yesterday's game was going to be that matchup where they
get revenge from the Week one game where they were
dominated by Green Bay, and it just appeared to me
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that now maybe they just don't have the horses to
do that, and that's what and it was. It was
a bit of a letdown because I didn't realize it
after the Lions lost to the Packers. It was more
of taking the day in as a whole, like the
Ravens are going to have to make some changes and
Derek Henry's not going to be and Derek Henry actually
kind of still looks like Derrick Henry. Maybe not the
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ninety yard touchdown breakthrough or stiff arming Josh Norman in
the next.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Week, maybe you'd like of course he does.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely, But I just wonder with the
Lions because I mean, it was such a good run.
And again, the Chiefs and Ravens have their quarterbacks and
it's not meant to disrespect Jared Goff, but I just
don't feel as comfortable with them moving forward. And it
didn't hit me until last night watching Lamar turn it
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over a couple of times. He had the fumble where
he was trying to hold the football back, and it's
just like, man, it's just not their night, it's just
not their season. And I think that's a reasonable excuse.
I don't think you can say that for the Lions.
I don't think you could say that, you know, it's
just not their year this year. I don't think so.
I think that we're seeing a little bit of diminishing
returns since that NFC Championship game two years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, because even with the Chiefs,
you're kind of just like, it may not be their year,
But that doesn't mean I'm ruling them out for next
year or the year after.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's like, if they don't sneak in, it's like they're
gonna come back, and I would bet next year that
they do make the playoffs. With the same thing with
the Ravens. It's not they don't look good, but they
it's the Ravens are weird. It's like they started with
a bad defense, but their defen seems to have gotten better.
But then Lamar Jackson got hurt, and I agree, he
doesn't look like he's one hundred percent at all. I
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sometimes wonder, remember when Jahn Morant stopped doing dunks.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Because he was afraid to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I'm wondering if Lamar is a little bit afraid because
he's a little banged up, and so he's holding back,
just like Jamran literally was like, I'm not dunking anymore.
I'm not doing this anymore when we used to love
seeing him do that. He looks like, I don't know
if it's the injuries or that he's a little bit
scared because he's banged up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But he's holding back.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And it just made me think of Jahn Morant when
he said that that he was gonna not dunk anymore.
But with the Lions against a Packers team that I
don't that I haven't been impressed with this season for
you to at home not be able to look good even.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
The eye test with the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I know the score was thirty one to twenty four,
but the eye test for the Lions wasn't great yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, And I think that you're gonna face it and
you may not believe in the Packers. I believe in
them more than maybe others do. Even the Packer fans,
and the Packer fans believe in the Packers. They just
don't believe in Matt Lafleur as their head coach. Think
that that's what's fair to say, I just don't think
that they can. They could navigate the NFC playoff picture
and beat teams that are better than they are, and
(11:16):
I thought that that was kind of their hallmark previously
two years ago. Then last year, you know, they lose
to the Commanders in the divisional playoffs with home field,
and now this year, just to even get into the
to the postseason would be difficult. But I don't think
the Lions would do any damage. And you're right about
the Lamar. I thought there were a couple of runs
last night where Lamar did turn it on at the end,
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but I don't think he did against the Jets on Sunday.
I thought there were a couple of runs where he
just wanted to ease up, And I think some of that, honestly,
is probably psychological. But it's also like, listen, we were
one and five, We're now in the thick of it.
If I risk anything or do anything here, it's all
for nought.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That may have come to backfire last night against the
Cincinnati Bengals, but I'm just not worried about not worried
about the Ravens as a whole. I'm not worried about
the Ravens organization over the next couple of years. I'm
not saying that there aren't gaps to fill with Derrick
Henry and pieces on the defense. It's just it feels
that the Lions to me, reached a point where even
a couple of years ago, it didn't matter who they
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would play, they would play their style and if they won, great,
and they won a lot, and they won a lot
last year, and now they're not able to do that
this year, and it just felt it felt different. And
now tell me the Cowboys and Lions play on Thursday
to start Week fourteen. Yeah, who's the hot team coming
in right?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Definitely the Cowboys one hundred percent, which is crazy. Yeah,
you know, last year with the Lions, it was like people,
the team's viewers me, I was like, man, the Lions
are a big threat because their defense is not maybe
they're going to shut you out, but it wasn't their defense.
It's just that their defense was good enough and their
offense was so good that you couldn't keep up offensively
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with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's not this year at all.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Know, and the defense should aiden Hutchinson and get after
you with sacks and hopefully turnovers. And they I mean,
they had injuries last year in the second area as
well and this year, but I just every team has
injuries every time, and it's just the Lions where I
just thought like, Wow, I wonder if that window was closing.
I remember with the Seahawks when they lost in the
Super Bowl forty nine to the Patriots, which we all
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remember the interception at the one yard line. They had
the whole next season was a malaise, like it really
just I think they were hungover from that, talking about
Thanksgiving hangovers. But it was then the next year where
all of a sudden, now you weren't competing with the
better teams, Like they got ran off the field by
the Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs, and the Falcons ended
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up going to the Super Bowl that year, but they
were just they didn't have a chance, and all of
a sudden, now you're saying to yourself, wow, we've fallen behind,
Like we were the cream of the crop, we were
the best in the NFL, and now we're not even
better than the top teams in our conference. And I
felt like that's the feeling I got with the Lions
last night.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
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Speaker 2 (15:26):
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Bear's moving the football though, just nothing to show for it.
Isaac Low and Cronell have more. What's going on in
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Injury news? So much more coming up in about seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It is weird still to me to have a game
on Black Friday at this time, Like I'm still getting
used to that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What day does it feel like today?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It is not Friday at at all. I don't know
what I don't know, I don't know of a day.
It feels like I just to make sure I.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Don't I thought yesterday was Friday, like like half the time,
like I was feeling it was Friday, which would make
today Saturday. So that's what it kind of feels like
to me, Isa a glowing crowd. What does today feel
like to you? After a Thanksgiving?
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yesterday feels like a day that ends in a whine. No,
it's it's it's a really, that is my good point.
It doesn't matter to me, honestly, because there's no traffic today,
at least for me.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So then maybe a Saturday or Sunday, right because there's
a little less traffic.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Oh no, there's there's traffic on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
A moving on, moving on, all right. I kept saying,
the point being right, just play along, okay, kids, play along,
that's what we need. Ryan Burschinger, what does today feel
like to you? It feels like Saturday? To thank you,
thank you. I guarantee he's just gonna I'm just gonna
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say what Dan say. I'm just gonna say what Dan says.
That's what it is, That's what it is. There was
less traffic today.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
There's a lot of less traffic today, and.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There's no way, Isaac. You could deny that there's less
traffic on Saturdays and Sundays than Monday through Friday.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
Not on the one on one babe, Okay, all right, geez,
my goodness my.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Sundays. Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
If I have to Kenny Loggins this meet me halfway, like,
just please, just please me halfway?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Is less traffic on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
There is traffic. Why does it take me twenty seven
minutes to get here as opposed to fifty minutes Monday
through Friday?
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Why? That's That's what I want to know in any
major city. I'm sorry, you may have traffic jams on
Saturdays and Sundays, but it is not nearly as bad
as it is during the weekday. It's just not unless
you're going to the zoo or something like that, that
would be only the only place, or Dodger Stadium. Outside
Dodger Stadium, that would be the only case. It just
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feels like a Saturday to.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Me, you know, it definitely feels like an off.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Day, like a sigh here, yeah, like a Saturday, like
a Sunday, allion off day.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But it's not.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's Black Friday shopping.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I also miss Black Friday shopping how it used to
be back then.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Now everything's online. I've done it. I did it earlier
in the week started Monday.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah you want to camp out in front of best Buy?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I definitely is what you I definitely was. I did that.
I missed the Actually there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, of course, yeah we all do. Yeah, that's what
we all. People fighting over PS three's.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Or yes, cabbage Patch kids running into a store.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
The fights. The fights were like decades like it's It
wasn't just over electronics. It was over dolls, it was
over action figures. It was it's always it was over
flat screen TVs.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You didn't even need another flat screen TV. But people
are like forty seven dollars. I will take you down,
ma'am for it, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know you said we're on ma'am.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I want to use the different word. I think other
words were used instead of maying.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
But I'm keeping a classy right now.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
The ads that would come in the paper as well.
I remember family would review those on Thanksgiving night, so
then they would know where they were.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Gonna what you were gonna do, and you had to
make a decision. It's like what storm I going to
go to at midnight if I'm trying to, you know,
maximize my savings.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Cyber Monday's kind of taken over. To Manzi's point, everybody's
been already doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I've been shopping since Monday, Homeline, a lot of shopping.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh man, Yeah, it's but it's great to be here.
The egg Bowl is wrapping up. Curious to hear what
Lank Kiffin has to say after this game, considering you're
supposed to have the official announcement of what he's going
to do with his next stop, if there is a
next stop coming up tomorrow. But the Bears, by the
way in Eagles territory, trying to put some points up
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on the board that a drive stall failed to get
it on fourth and one at about the Eagles twenty
five yard line on their opening drive. Now they've driven
down to the Eagles eleven yard line. So the Bears
moving the football against Philadelphia in this contest. So far,
so good for Chicago, except the fact that they haven't
put any points on the board. All Right, Mancy, it's
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Speaker 2 (20:28):
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Speaker 2 (20:42):
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
Those NBA courts. I love me a good end zone. Yeah,
in college football or the NFL when you're you painted
up NBA Cup courts a little too much for me.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's the solid color covering the whole court, like I
think we would like it, just like last year where
we were complaining because I was that there was no
trophy during the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Run like on the hardwood. That's what you should have done.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It didn't need to all be a solid red or
a solid blue. It's not appeasing to the eye when
you're watching it, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It burns the retinas with some of the reds that
we have seen and those those NBA logos. What they
previously would do was put stickers right down, and the stickers,
as Isaac just mentioned, with the court being slippery, the
stickers were slipped, so you went away with them. They
had actually that problem in college basketball when they wouldn't
make courts specifically for each site. You would have like
(22:07):
a team logo at the middle, and maybe you'd put
an NCAA logo to cover it or at least some
sort of branding, and it caused for a slippery surface.
But now if you're making three different courts out of
the year, Yeah, what's the big deal? Just make another one.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And if you're gonna do the NBA Cup moving forward,
then you really should just have these courts ready, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I don't know why. If they're piecing these together,
why can't you just have a middle.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Piece that's exactly and just.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Exchange that correct? Yes, but that's that would be too easy. Yes,
that would be too easy, Just like playing Joe Burrow
last week for the Cincinnati Bengals, Because if you watched
last night, I a couple of times wondered on quarterback
sneaks how Joe Burrow was going to handle I wondered
I was going to do on the move. I wondered
(22:55):
I was going to do when he ran the football.
And there seemed to me no ill effects for Joe
Burrow in that win against the Ravens. Heck, he was
our Tiract player of the day. Then why didn't he
play last week?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Are you saying this because I'm in the middle here
and I know that's not the answer you want. Are
you saying this though, because they won? Because I feel
like at the time this was the right decision. I
think the Bengals were like, I don't know if we
can beat the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Why are we going to rush you on a short week.
Let's bring you back for the divisional game.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
But then you see him and you're like, it does
seem like you could have maybe played Mancy.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't mean to use your words against you. I'm
going to you just said that there's no great teams
in the NFL. I go, right, So why would you
think the Patriots are any different than the Ravens or
any other team, especially when you're at home. So if
you that thinking doesn't fit for the Bengals to think
the Patriots were too tough of an opponent.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yes, you are correct, I understand that, but still I
just the Patriots have won nine in a row.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, yes, it means they're due for loss.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And you're right, but we knew that the Bengals defense
can't stop a nosebleed. So I think at the time,
at the time, it was the right choice. But maybe
now when they're looking at it, oh, maybe you could
have won that game that you only lost by six.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
The Bengals right now, their playoff chance, according to NFL
dot Com, is two percent.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Nice, they have a two percent, so you're saying there's
a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
But leading into the Patriots game, if they would have lost,
they would have had a less than one percent chance
of making the playoffs, and if they would have won
that game, it would have been one percent. So they
lost the game, so it was less than one. So
it went from less than one to two percent. They
weren't entirely eliminated. There's still beyond the Dolphins of the
wild card. However, the reason Joe Burrow came back was
to hopefully win the division, and you have to beat
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your division opponents. But if you don't have Joe Burrow
to beat the Patriots, which, by the way, in a
game that Joe Flacco threw a pick six, Joe Burrow
didn't turn the football over. Yeah, so like there's like
that is the reason that you played Joe Burrow. If
you get that win, you're now five and with a
win over the Ravens in hand, you got the Bills
coming up next week. You have the Ravens again, there's
(25:07):
an opportunity to knock them off. You have a win
over Pittsburgh earlier this season. So when you're talking about
division and tiebreakers. It was there. It was the whole
reason to get Joe Burrow back, and Joe Burrow then
this week says well, I'm gonna play regardless if we're
in it and if I'm healthy, Like, that's my mindset
to play. And now after one night on a Thursday
(25:29):
night where they go to Baltimore and win, which maybe
was the one that people thought that they couldn't do,
we're like, wow, look at this. And Joe Burrow actually
looked rusty last night. So now you're saying yourself, what
happens if he gets in rhythm? What happens is the
Bengals can win some more football games than actually be
in this which is the reason why he should have
played five days ago.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
You know, Jamar Chase was like, Joe, you need to
play against the Ravens because you know how much I
like to go off against them, and I can't do
it without.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You, yeah, and without Tag.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And without Tea Higgins. So I need you to play. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Again, I thought it was the right move, but you're right.
If you're going to be aggressive, you might as well
be aggressive. Why were you not aggressive from the beginning?
Why are you aggressive now?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Which?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
And I hear you, but you know, Joe Burrow has
been injured a lot throughout his career, and so there's that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's that balance.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Do we have to be aggressive, but knowing that he
has been hurt, how aggressive can you be?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Do you want to be? It's just a tough I
don't know he has.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
A turf had a turf toe injury, because now it
feels like it's in the rear view mirror that took
him eight weeks to recover from, to be able to
nine weeks when he was activated, and then ultimately playing.
It was injured in Week two, so we'll give it
ten eleven weeks to recover from. I'm just saying, if
Joe Burrow would have reaggravated the injury, he's not going
(26:50):
to play again this season, which then the Bengals like,
all right, our season's kind of down the river. I
know you're paying him fifty five million dollars, but it's
also an injury. To my understanding, that wouldn't be something
considering he was able to come back from it a
month earlier than expected, that he'd be able to take
the offseason and be able to recover and be back
(27:11):
for twenty twenty six. I'm not saying that they're risking
Joe Burrow's feature by playing him last Sunday. But Joe
Burrow wasn't fifty percent last Sunday. Joe Burrow was probably
ninety five percent last Sunday. And so now he goes
and place Thursday night and doesn't look like there are
any ill effects whatsoever in a game where you didn't have,
by the way Jamar Chase because of the suspension that
he played, if the Bengals would have beaten New England
(27:35):
and if there wouldn't have been a pick six by
Joe Flacco in that game, the plan for Cincinnati all along,
or their hopes all along, would be right at the footstep.
They'd be a game back right now of the division lead,
and then the thick of it with a schedule that
includes the Dolphins, Cardinals and ends with the Browns after
that Bill's Ravens game. Those are winnable football games. And
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so I just don't know why in a span of
five days, Joe Burrow looked like he had no ill
effects Thursday night, but wasn't good enough to play in
Week twelve.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity for the Bengals,
and it's just it's just tough. But I think you're right,
why didn't Maybe he even should have played a little
bit against New England, maybe like not as a starter,
have yeah, have Flacco out there, but just to get
in a rhythm, because you're right, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
He wasn't bad, but he wasn't his normal self.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
And you can see it's your first game back, understandably,
so so yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Why did you play a little bit?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Damn it?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Dan, You're right they could have they could have this this,
This would have made the AFC way more interesting. But
just last night he did not look like there were
any yeah, ill effects to one, and he had been
practicing for the previous two weeks. And I understand that
this is this is kind of gravy because you thought
it was going to be mid December. But if he
was this close on a short week, how many guys
(28:55):
do how many times do guys miss a game on
Sunday and then our immediately ruled out so they can
have that extra rest the week after That would have
been the play for me, Like I actually would have
understood it more Manzi if they didn't play Joe Burrow
last night. Then I would say, like, Okay, now I
see why you didn't play them in week twelve. You
wanted that extra rest. Maybe they don't beat the Ravens
last night with Joe Flacco, but that makes more sense
(29:16):
to me seeing how good he was last night. Now
doesn't add up on why he didn't play last Sunday,
which really could have had the Bengals in this playoff picture.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, oh, it could have been a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
They missed opportunitytunity for sure. She's Moncey Milanio. So I'm
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I look up and the Bears had the football, DeAndre
Swift is running somewhere. He was in the end zone earlier,
(30:25):
had just a big runs. He's on the field right now.
Bears converting a third down and getting to midfield wasn't
It wasn't to DeAndre Swift. It was to Olamedes Zechias
and the Bears are now Yes, no midfield. I thought
this was an all Eagles game, by the.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Way, Yeah, well you really did, yes, really?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
The Bears have looked, I think, better than and anticipated expected.
They're not it's not that they're great, but they're good.
They're good on many you know, aspects of the game.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
They're good.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I thought they were frauds. Yeah, I really did. I
looked at who they be stand and what they have
done over the last couple of weeks, and I was
just each time. I don't know if my threshold was
too high. I wasn't impressed. But right now, going to
Philly on a short week, have a seven to three lead,
move the football. That's all you can ask for. It
(31:29):
may be saying more about Philadelphia, but yeah, I'm starting
to think my Bears are frauds. Take maybe not aging
so well.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, they've won four in a row.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
They've won eight out out of their last nine. The
only loss came to the Ravens without Lamar Jackson. But
I think they just they look good. They're not great,
but they're good in so many different parts of the
game that it gives them the edge a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
They're running the ball manang Guy has added a physical
presence to go along with DeAndre Swift, and honestly, Caleb
Williams looks better. Do is not trying to do everything?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, he's not playing here at the ball correct?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah? Yeah, and so and it's not just all Rome
with Dunza. They're getting Luther Burden into the action. DeAndre
Swift excuse me, DJ Moore at a touchdown last week.
So yeah, the Bears are filling out and Caleb Williams
just gets a first down on the third and one,
so even further on Eagles territory.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Just happy.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I feel like last year, when you're losing, it's hard
to look happy. I understand all that, but even his
face just looks different when you're watching Caleb Williams play
a little more relaxed, a little bit, you know, having fun.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, we'll di more into this coming up in just
a little bit as the Eagles and Bears again the
lone NFL game on this Black Friday, but there are
other games as well, and Isaac low and Kron brings
just one of them.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
This is Game Time Games on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Hello, Isaac, what have you got today?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You know what I think, Dan and Monsei. It's the
perfect topic for a day like today. I got DIBs.
Speaking of dibbs, just one quick note. After an Old
Missus victory in the Egg Bowl, Lane Kiffin said after
the game he has not made a decision yet about
his future and that he has a lot of praying
to do about it. Onto the business at hand. We're
(33:26):
gonna have the gang here place their DIBs on their
favorite football holidays. So among those to choose from, of course,
Thanksgiving Today, Black Friday, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve,
New Year's Day? What football holidays do we have DIBs on?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
You know, I'm gonna take DIBs on New Year's Day.
I like New Year's Day because I means, like, if
I'm working at school, but if I'm at home, I
don't have to leave my bed and I don't have
to see anyone. I don't have for Thanksgiving, Like can
we talking about to go see your family? You gotta
like do things on Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Don't expect to see me. If I don't have to work,
I don't have to leave my bed and I could
just watch football day.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I was gonna take New Year's Day because I thought
the non college football fan, it's not that you don't
like college football, it's just not that. And she takes
New Year's Day, I'll say, gosh, that's okay, that's okay.
I'll take New Year's Eve. Then I'll just take New
Year's even leading up to it because there are at
times playoff games or back then bowl games that would
(34:27):
lead into New Year's Day. So I'll take New Year's Eve.
I got Thanksgiving. It just feels right, feel sure? Yeah,
lines on Thanksgiving. There's nothing better than that. If you
ask me, Ryan, you want to.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
In, I will take Christmas because usually I'm not working.
I got my mom's home cooking, and I got football.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Nice, all right, Memo yourself, don't text Monsey on New
Year's Day?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You can text me not disturbed?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
All right?
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Next subject here on I got DIBs college football rival games.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
What do you guys have DIBs on there?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I mean, I got DIBs on Ohio State Michigan. Of
course I don't know like fifty percent of it, but yeah,
give me Ohio State Michigan. I got the Iron Bowl.
Oh interesting, ivern in Alabama? Another one just feels right. Yeah,
I know there's there's a big one that's hanging out there. Moncei.
College football rivalries.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You know I have to take because I don't have
a team. I'm going to take the LA rivalry UCLA USCA.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Both teams wearing their home uniforms when they play the
blue in the maroon. Yeah, all right, Ryan Smith, I.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Wasn't gonna go on Michigan Ohio State only because of
the fighting and the pepper spring.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
That's great. I love that, but I'll.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Take a I'll take Texas versus Oklahoma, Ah Red River
one of the better ones.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Isaac. You're at college football at Fiscionado.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
You know, I literally just discovered this just for the heck.
I decided to google it. And I had no idea
that the rivalry between Middle Tennessee and Western can which
started in nineteen fourteen, was known as the one hundred
Miles of Hate. That's a pretty good name for a
rivalry game. One other note, Dan, I don't know if
you knew this as far as Ohio State Michigan, but
(36:13):
Woody Hayes, the legendary Ohio State head coach, his home
phone number was listed in the phone book. If you
call that same phone number literally to this day, literally
right now, and I can give you the number. If
you call what was his home phone number, it will
automatically play a recording of a Woody Hayes pep talk before.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
A Michigan game.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I swear that is like.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
The coolest thing I just found out about.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
All right.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Our next item, Oh boy, this is going to be
controversial around here. Look out now.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
By the way, no one said army Navy. No, no
one said yes. The biggest rivalry that maybe there ultimately.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Is yeah, uh, Thanksgiving leftovers?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
What do we have DIBs on?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Green bean castrole?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know?
Speaker 8 (37:02):
My mother in law made a spectacular one yesterday.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
By the way, turkey, I got DIBs on just the turkey.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I got mashed potatoes. I think when it heats well,
it does and you could throw some like the Yeah,
well you know love that?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, fair enough?
Speaker 10 (37:25):
All right, Ryan, Well some people call it dressing, some
people call it stuffing. But I take that that is delicious,
especially how my mom makes it.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
How does your mom make it good?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
And you can't have any geez? Is there some tea
there between you and most about leftover?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
He just is a hater that I call him by
his proper name and not the name that he wants to.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's not you, Ryan, Your legal name is what I'm
gonna call you. Change your name legally to pop there
and I will call.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
You that, and uh, I will actually have my children
answer in lieu of me. They have DIBs on everything.
And on that note, that is another edition of Game Time.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Game This is game Time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
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(38:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hopefully the Thanksgiving hangover is mild, whether it be from
food or other vices. Welcome in. It's a Black Friday,
but there's no dark cloud here, Moncy. Four hours of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, boom, what up America.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Monsey and I are
in for Doug today, who was just in for the
Herd and Colin Cowherd. But we're also going to be
in later on for Cavino and Rich. So it's four
hours of us talking a lot of football, some NBA
as well college variety of the pig skin. But we
start in the National Football League as the Eagles and
(00:54):
Bears are about to start in Philadelphia in their Black
Friday game. But I want to focus on one happened
yesterday because in the Thanksgiving affairs that we had in Detroit,
in Dallas, Arlington, to be specific, and in Baltimore. The
three favorites yesterday heading into the game, the Lions were
(01:16):
favored by two and a half over the Packers, Chiefs,
who were about a field goal favorite over the Cowboys,
and the Ravens a touchdown favorite over the Cincinnati Bengals.
All fell. They were all defeated by their underdog opponents.
And as I'm watching Joe Burrow return to the Cincinnati
Bengals and I'm watching the Ravens fall apart, I'm saying
(01:37):
to myself, this is a lot of what we saw
earlier today. These teams that we were accustomed to had
two years ago, Monzi, the Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions were
the three of the four best teams we had in
the National Football League, like truly, like the Lions we
know were a quarter all away from going to the
(01:58):
Super Bowl. All the Chiefs and Ravens played great games.
This is where we are in the NFL. And it
felt like yesterday and Week thirteen, before all of our
eyes on Thanksgiving Day, what's going to be the highest
rated games that we're going to see all regular season.
It felt like it was a bit of a changing
of the guard with those three defeats.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yesterday's games just proved what we have seen all season.
There is no dominant team, and the teams that we
expected to be dominant coming off of last season have
been underwhelming. The teams that have surprised you, there's several
teams surprising us this season, and it's none of the
teams that we anticipated or expected. It's just this has
(02:39):
just been the season. I thought that that's what the
show key scene of it was. It's like, this is
that type of season. I really don't know who's who
anymore and who is going to come out on top.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know who the dominant teams are. I don't either,
but I do know that it's definitely not these three teams.
Yeah yeah, I know that for sure. And I don't
know if you have the same feeling that I did.
But one team stood out to me in being the
biggest failure. Did a team stand out to you yesterday?
(03:10):
And it kind of hits you to say, like, huh, okay,
there's something more to this. Did you have any of that?
Because I'm gonna make a case for one of the teams.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think I felt that with all of them, but
there may be one that a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You want to know what team I'm worried about the most.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What team were you worried about?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The Moe the Lions.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That's what I was gonna say. Really, yes, I didn't
think you were going to pick the line.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's why what do you think I was going to say?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I thought you were going to say maybe the Chiefs,
because the Chiefs were so long.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Their defense, you know, was so good, and right now
it's like their defense is not there, and that has
been the last couple of weeks. But to me, the
Lions are the ones where they're like, oh no, it
does seem like you are not at all what I
was expecting. It seems like the minute you rattle Jared
Goff just a little bit, he cannot do much. If
(04:00):
he is all the time in the world, he's great.
But the minute you rattle him, Jared Goff looks rough out.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
There, and it's rougher without Amanas Saint Brown, of course,
who's got a low angle sprain. They play next week
on Thursday night against the Cowboys, so it's after that
that Amanara Sam Brown's likely going to get his full rest.
Maybe he plays in week fourteen. I'm not sure, but
when Dan Campbell gave the timetable out yesterday, it said
(04:25):
maybe one to two week injury, and that lends to
him maybe getting the extra time because they'll have exactly
one week before they play their next game, which again
is Thursday against the Cowboys. The reason I didn't pick
the Chiefs and the reason I didn't pick the Ravens
is because of their quarterbacks. Like I don't think Lamar
looks the same either. Are a couple of runs last night
(04:45):
that I thought, Okay, this is more of the old Lamar.
But I just don't think that he's fully back from
the hamstring injury. But I think he will at some point,
and it may be in twenty twenty six, So I'm
not worried about that. I'm not worried about Patrick Mahomes.
Andy Reid's going to retire some day. I don't think
it's going to be after this season. I think the
Chiefs will figure something out that Travis Kelcey obviously has
(05:08):
a decision at the end of last year. But when
I look at the Lions and you mentioned, like Jared
Goff and we mentioned the lack of coordinators, I go
back to the game that I mentioned earlier of the
Lions being about a quarter away from the Super Bowl,
and it's just very likely, Mancy, that that is as
close as the Lions are going to get with this
(05:29):
version of the team. And this version of the team
is going to change at some point, just like the
version of the Chiefs changed, just like the version of
the Ravens will probably change. But the Ravens in Chiefs
have their quarterback, and it's not that Jared Goff. This
isn't a referendum on Jared Goff. I just think that
the Lions may have had their run. And it's so
(05:50):
surprising me because now you need Frank Reraig now to
come out of retirement. I've loved their offensive line more
so than what Baltimore and Kansas City's at. Kansas City's
got problems on the offensive line. Now they've got injuries
littered across the line. So it's probably not going to
be the year for the Chiefs. But I just look
at how close the Lions came a couple of years ago.
Their defense doesn't seem to be anywhere near anything to
(06:13):
stop anything. And if you're going to put everything on
the shoulders of Jamier Gibbs, I mean, even the what
was what was their nickname? I was gonna call him
thunder and Lightning, but it wasn't. Yes and knuckles is
that it does that sound right? Right? Character? Okay, Yes,
that's David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. It's not the same
(06:34):
Like Gibbs is great, David Montgomery doesn't seem to have
the same effect that he's had previously. So I'm just
really worried about the Lions, and as they've been a
great story. They've been a team that people have wanted
to follow and wanted to cheer for because of how
bad they've been for so long. But now when you
lose both of your coordinators dead coaching jobs, those coordinators
take other coaches. Dan Campbell has got the culture at
(06:56):
some point. I I hope the message doesn't ring hollow.
But I'm more worried about the Lions than I am
the other two teams about bouncing back and continuing success
over the next couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, I think you said it right.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
It's just last year we really saw the Lions have
this like step on your throat mentality, have this offense
that almost seemed unstoppable, and then this year everything is
just a little bit underwhelming now. The losing your coordinators,
of course that was a big thing, but you also
weren't gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Change the scheme that much, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Like Dan Campbell's been there, so like you, why would
you things were gonna You were gonna stay on the
same game, the game plan that you had and in
a in a year where like there is no dominant team,
I really thought the Lions were gonna look, at least
offensively like the team we had seen last year that
just did not care if they dropped seventy seventy on.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You, it didn't matter. The more we score the better.
They can't. They can't. They don't look like that right now.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
They don't look like that team and it's only one
year removed, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They went to Baltimore earlier this season and had a
big win when Lamar was was healthy at that that
point of the season, and then they ended up losing
to the Chiefs. The lost the home game to the Vikings,
and we saw what happened against the Eagles. I thought
yesterday's game was going to be that matchup where they
get revenge from the Week one game where they were
dominated by Green Bay, and it just appeared to me
(08:24):
that now maybe they just don't have the horses to
do that, and that's what and it was. It was
a bit of a letdown because I didn't realize it
after the Lions lost to the Packers. It was more
of taking the day in as a whole, like the
Ravens are going to have to make some changes and
Derek Henry's not going to be and Derek Henry actually
kind of still looks like Derrick Henry. Maybe not the
(08:46):
ninety yard touchdown breakthrough or stiff arming Josh Norman in
the next.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Week, maybe you'd like of course he does.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely, But I just wonder with the
Lions because I mean, it was such a good run.
And again, the Chiefs and Ravens have their quarterbacks and
it's not meant to disrespect Jared Goff, but I just
don't feel as comfortable with them moving forward. And it
didn't hit me until last night watching Lamar turn it
(09:16):
over a couple of times. He had the fumble where
he was trying to hold the football back, and it's
just like, man, it's just not their night, it's just
not their season. And I think that's a reasonable excuse.
I don't think you can say that for the Lions.
I don't think you could say that, you know, it's
just not their year this year. I don't think so.
I think that we're seeing a little bit of diminishing
returns since that NFC Championship game two years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, because even with the Chiefs,
you're kind of just like, it may not be their year,
But that doesn't mean I'm ruling them out for next
year or the year after.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's like, if they don't sneak in, it's like they're
gonna come back, and I would bet next year that
they do make the playoffs. With the same thing with
the Ravens. It's not they don't look good, but they
it's the Ravens are weird. It's like they started with
a bad defense, but their defen seems to have gotten better.
But then Lamar Jackson got hurt, and I agree, he
doesn't look like he's one hundred percent at all. I
(10:06):
sometimes wonder, remember when Jahn Morant stopped doing dunks.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Because he was afraid to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I'm wondering if Lamar is a little bit afraid because
he's a little banged up, and so he's holding back,
just like Jamran literally was like, I'm not dunking anymore.
I'm not doing this anymore when we used to love
seeing him do that. He looks like, I don't know
if it's the injuries or that he's a little bit
scared because he's banged up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But he's holding back.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And it just made me think of Jahn Morant when
he said that that he was gonna not dunk anymore.
But with the Lions against a Packers team that I
don't that I haven't been impressed with this season for
you to at home not be able to look good even.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
The eye test with the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I know the score was thirty one to twenty four,
but the eye test for the Lions wasn't great yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, And I think that you're gonna face it and
you may not believe in the Packers. I believe in
them more than maybe others do. Even the Packer fans,
and the Packer fans believe in the Packers. They just
don't believe in Matt Lafleur as their head coach. Think
that that's what's fair to say, I just don't think
that they can. They could navigate the NFC playoff picture
and beat teams that are better than they are, and
(11:16):
I thought that that was kind of their hallmark previously
two years ago. Then last year, you know, they lose
to the Commanders in the divisional playoffs with home field,
and now this year, just to even get into the
to the postseason would be difficult. But I don't think
the Lions would do any damage. And you're right about
the Lamar. I thought there were a couple of runs
last night where Lamar did turn it on at the end,
(11:37):
but I don't think he did against the Jets on Sunday.
I thought there were a couple of runs where he
just wanted to ease up, And I think some of that, honestly,
is probably psychological. But it's also like, listen, we were
one and five, We're now in the thick of it.
If I risk anything or do anything here, it's all
for nought.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That may have come to backfire last night against the
Cincinnati Bengals, but I'm just not worried about not worried
about the Ravens as a whole. I'm not worried about
the Ravens organization over the next couple of years. I'm
not saying that there aren't gaps to fill with Derrick
Henry and pieces on the defense. It's just it feels
that the Lions to me, reached a point where even
a couple of years ago, it didn't matter who they
(12:15):
would play, they would play their style and if they won, great,
and they won a lot, and they won a lot
last year, and now they're not able to do that
this year, and it just felt it felt different. And
now tell me the Cowboys and Lions play on Thursday
to start Week fourteen. Yeah, who's the hot team coming
in right?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Definitely the Cowboys one hundred percent, which is crazy. Yeah,
you know, last year with the Lions, it was like people,
the team's viewers me, I was like, man, the Lions
are a big threat because their defense is not maybe
they're going to shut you out, but it wasn't their defense.
It's just that their defense was good enough and their
offense was so good that you couldn't keep up offensively
(12:52):
with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's not this year at all.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Know, and the defense should aiden Hutchinson and get after
you with sacks and hopefully turnovers. And they I mean,
they had injuries last year in the second area as
well and this year, but I just every team has
injuries every time, and it's just the Lions where I
just thought like, Wow, I wonder if that window was closing.
I remember with the Seahawks when they lost in the
Super Bowl forty nine to the Patriots, which we all
(13:15):
remember the interception at the one yard line. They had
the whole next season was a malaise, like it really
just I think they were hungover from that, talking about
Thanksgiving hangovers. But it was then the next year where
all of a sudden, now you weren't competing with the
better teams, Like they got ran off the field by
the Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs, and the Falcons ended
(13:37):
up going to the Super Bowl that year, but they
were just they didn't have a chance, and all of
a sudden, now you're saying to yourself, wow, we've fallen behind,
Like we were the cream of the crop, we were
the best in the NFL, and now we're not even
better than the top teams in our conference. And I
felt like that's the feeling I got with the Lions
last night.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
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Speaker 2 (15:26):
Doug Gottliebshell Fox Sports Radio bears an Eagle scoreless right now.
Bear's moving the football though, just nothing to show for it.
Isaac Low and Cronell have more. What's going on in
the egg Bowl? Well, what's happening with Lane Kiffin? Week thirteen?
Injury news? So much more coming up in about seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It is weird still to me to have a game
on Black Friday at this time, Like I'm still getting
used to that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What day does it feel like today?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It is not Friday at at all. I don't know
what I don't know, I don't know of a day.
It feels like I just to make sure I.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Don't I thought yesterday was Friday, like like half the time,
like I was feeling it was Friday, which would make
today Saturday. So that's what it kind of feels like
to me, Isa a glowing crowd. What does today feel
like to you? After a Thanksgiving?
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yesterday feels like a day that ends in a whine. No,
it's it's it's a really, that is my good point.
It doesn't matter to me, honestly, because there's no traffic today,
at least for me.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So then maybe a Saturday or Sunday, right because there's
a little less traffic.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Oh no, there's there's traffic on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
A moving on, moving on, all right. I kept saying,
the point being right, just play along, okay, kids, play along,
that's what we need. Ryan Burschinger, what does today feel
like to you? It feels like Saturday? To thank you,
thank you. I guarantee he's just gonna I'm just gonna
(16:56):
say what Dan say. I'm just gonna say what Dan says.
That's what it is, That's what it is. There was
less traffic today.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
There's a lot of less traffic today, and.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There's no way, Isaac. You could deny that there's less
traffic on Saturdays and Sundays than Monday through Friday.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
Not on the one on one babe, Okay, all right, geez,
my goodness my.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Sundays. Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
If I have to Kenny Loggins this meet me halfway, like,
just please, just please me halfway?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Is less traffic on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
There is traffic. Why does it take me twenty seven
minutes to get here as opposed to fifty minutes Monday
through Friday?
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Why? That's That's what I want to know in any
major city. I'm sorry, you may have traffic jams on
Saturdays and Sundays, but it is not nearly as bad
as it is during the weekday. It's just not unless
you're going to the zoo or something like that, that
would be only the only place, or Dodger Stadium. Outside
Dodger Stadium, that would be the only case. It just
(17:53):
feels like a Saturday to.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Me, you know, it definitely feels like an off.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Day, like a sigh here, yeah, like a Saturday, like
a Sunday, allion off day.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But it's not.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's Black Friday shopping.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I also miss Black Friday shopping how it used to
be back then.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Now everything's online. I've done it. I did it earlier
in the week started Monday.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah you want to camp out in front of best Buy?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I definitely is what you I definitely was. I did that.
I missed the Actually there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, of course, yeah we all do. Yeah, that's what
we all. People fighting over PS three's.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Or yes, cabbage Patch kids running into a store.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
The fights. The fights were like decades like it's It
wasn't just over electronics. It was over dolls, it was
over action figures. It was it's always it was over
flat screen TVs.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You didn't even need another flat screen TV. But people
are like forty seven dollars. I will take you down,
ma'am for it, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know you said we're on ma'am.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I want to use the different word. I think other
words were used instead of maying.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
But I'm keeping a classy right now.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
The ads that would come in the paper as well.
I remember family would review those on Thanksgiving night, so
then they would know where they were.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Gonna what you were gonna do, and you had to
make a decision. It's like what storm I going to
go to at midnight if I'm trying to, you know,
maximize my savings.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Cyber Monday's kind of taken over. To Manzi's point, everybody's
been already doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I've been shopping since Monday, Homeline, a lot of shopping.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh man, Yeah, it's but it's great to be here.
The egg Bowl is wrapping up. Curious to hear what
Lank Kiffin has to say after this game, considering you're
supposed to have the official announcement of what he's going
to do with his next stop, if there is a
next stop coming up tomorrow. But the Bears, by the
way in Eagles territory, trying to put some points up
(19:39):
on the board that a drive stall failed to get
it on fourth and one at about the Eagles twenty
five yard line on their opening drive. Now they've driven
down to the Eagles eleven yard line. So the Bears
moving the football against Philadelphia in this contest. So far,
so good for Chicago, except the fact that they haven't
put any points on the board. All Right, Mancy, it's
(19:59):
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(20:20):
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Speaker 9 (20:24):
Joe under pressure clings it down the middle of the
film Yo C.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Bosh leaves it the three.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
He takes it into the end zone a twenty eight
yard touchdown to Andre Yo Si Bosh and the Bengals
lead is back to eleven with a pat coming up.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
One of two touchdown passes from Joe Burrow on the
night is the Bengals get that victory thirty two to
fourteen over the Ravens again on WLW and the Bengals
Radio Network. So Joe Burrow is back. Thanks for listening
to The Doug Gotleab Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
Those NBA courts. I love me a good end zone. Yeah,
in college football or the NFL when you're you painted
up NBA Cup courts a little too much for me.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's the solid color covering the whole court, like I
think we would like it, just like last year where
we were complaining because I was that there was no
trophy during the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Run like on the hardwood. That's what you should have done.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It didn't need to all be a solid red or
a solid blue. It's not appeasing to the eye when
you're watching it, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It burns the retinas with some of the reds that
we have seen and those those NBA logos. What they
previously would do was put stickers right down, and the stickers,
as Isaac just mentioned, with the court being slippery, the
stickers were slipped, so you went away with them. They
had actually that problem in college basketball when they wouldn't
make courts specifically for each site. You would have like
(22:07):
a team logo at the middle, and maybe you'd put
an NCAA logo to cover it or at least some
sort of branding, and it caused for a slippery surface.
But now if you're making three different courts out of
the year, Yeah, what's the big deal? Just make another one.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And if you're gonna do the NBA Cup moving forward,
then you really should just have these courts ready, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I don't know why. If they're piecing these together,
why can't you just have a middle.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Piece that's exactly and just.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Exchange that correct? Yes, but that's that would be too easy. Yes,
that would be too easy, Just like playing Joe Burrow
last week for the Cincinnati Bengals, Because if you watched
last night, I a couple of times wondered on quarterback
sneaks how Joe Burrow was going to handle I wondered
I was going to do on the move. I wondered
(22:55):
I was going to do when he ran the football.
And there seemed to me no ill effects for Joe
Burrow in that win against the Ravens. Heck, he was
our Tiract player of the day. Then why didn't he
play last week?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Are you saying this because I'm in the middle here
and I know that's not the answer you want. Are
you saying this though, because they won? Because I feel
like at the time this was the right decision. I
think the Bengals were like, I don't know if we
can beat the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Why are we going to rush you on a short week.
Let's bring you back for the divisional game.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
But then you see him and you're like, it does
seem like you could have maybe played Mancy.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't mean to use your words against you. I'm
going to you just said that there's no great teams
in the NFL. I go, right, So why would you
think the Patriots are any different than the Ravens or
any other team, especially when you're at home. So if
you that thinking doesn't fit for the Bengals to think
the Patriots were too tough of an opponent.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yes, you are correct, I understand that, but still I
just the Patriots have won nine in a row.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, yes, it means they're due for loss.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And you're right, but we knew that the Bengals defense
can't stop a nosebleed. So I think at the time,
at the time, it was the right choice. But maybe
now when they're looking at it, oh, maybe you could
have won that game that you only lost by six.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
The Bengals right now, their playoff chance, according to NFL
dot Com, is two percent.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Nice, they have a two percent, so you're saying there's
a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
But leading into the Patriots game, if they would have lost,
they would have had a less than one percent chance
of making the playoffs, and if they would have won
that game, it would have been one percent. So they
lost the game, so it was less than one. So
it went from less than one to two percent. They
weren't entirely eliminated. There's still beyond the Dolphins of the
wild card. However, the reason Joe Burrow came back was
to hopefully win the division, and you have to beat
(24:45):
your division opponents. But if you don't have Joe Burrow
to beat the Patriots, which, by the way, in a
game that Joe Flacco threw a pick six, Joe Burrow
didn't turn the football over. Yeah, so like there's like
that is the reason that you played Joe Burrow. If
you get that win, you're now five and with a
win over the Ravens in hand, you got the Bills
coming up next week. You have the Ravens again, there's
(25:07):
an opportunity to knock them off. You have a win
over Pittsburgh earlier this season. So when you're talking about
division and tiebreakers. It was there. It was the whole
reason to get Joe Burrow back, and Joe Burrow then
this week says well, I'm gonna play regardless if we're
in it and if I'm healthy, Like, that's my mindset
to play. And now after one night on a Thursday
(25:29):
night where they go to Baltimore and win, which maybe
was the one that people thought that they couldn't do,
we're like, wow, look at this. And Joe Burrow actually
looked rusty last night. So now you're saying yourself, what
happens if he gets in rhythm? What happens is the
Bengals can win some more football games than actually be
in this which is the reason why he should have
played five days ago.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
You know, Jamar Chase was like, Joe, you need to
play against the Ravens because you know how much I
like to go off against them, and I can't do
it without.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You, yeah, and without Tag.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And without Tea Higgins. So I need you to play. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Again, I thought it was the right move, but you're right.
If you're going to be aggressive, you might as well
be aggressive. Why were you not aggressive from the beginning?
Why are you aggressive now?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Which?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
And I hear you, but you know, Joe Burrow has
been injured a lot throughout his career, and so there's that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's that balance.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Do we have to be aggressive, but knowing that he
has been hurt, how aggressive can you be?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Do you want to be? It's just a tough I
don't know he has.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
A turf had a turf toe injury, because now it
feels like it's in the rear view mirror that took
him eight weeks to recover from, to be able to
nine weeks when he was activated, and then ultimately playing.
It was injured in Week two, so we'll give it
ten eleven weeks to recover from. I'm just saying, if
Joe Burrow would have reaggravated the injury, he's not going
(26:50):
to play again this season, which then the Bengals like,
all right, our season's kind of down the river. I
know you're paying him fifty five million dollars, but it's
also an injury. To my understanding, that wouldn't be something
considering he was able to come back from it a
month earlier than expected, that he'd be able to take
the offseason and be able to recover and be back
(27:11):
for twenty twenty six. I'm not saying that they're risking
Joe Burrow's feature by playing him last Sunday. But Joe
Burrow wasn't fifty percent last Sunday. Joe Burrow was probably
ninety five percent last Sunday. And so now he goes
and place Thursday night and doesn't look like there are
any ill effects whatsoever in a game where you didn't have,
by the way Jamar Chase because of the suspension that
he played, if the Bengals would have beaten New England
(27:35):
and if there wouldn't have been a pick six by
Joe Flacco in that game, the plan for Cincinnati all along,
or their hopes all along, would be right at the footstep.
They'd be a game back right now of the division lead,
and then the thick of it with a schedule that
includes the Dolphins, Cardinals and ends with the Browns after
that Bill's Ravens game. Those are winnable football games. And
(27:57):
so I just don't know why in a span of
five days, Joe Burrow looked like he had no ill
effects Thursday night, but wasn't good enough to play in
Week twelve.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity for the Bengals,
and it's just it's just tough. But I think you're right,
why didn't Maybe he even should have played a little
bit against New England, maybe like not as a starter,
have yeah, have Flacco out there, but just to get
in a rhythm, because you're right, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
He wasn't bad, but he wasn't his normal self.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
And you can see it's your first game back, understandably,
so so yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Why did you play a little bit?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Damn it?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Dan, You're right they could have they could have this this,
This would have made the AFC way more interesting. But
just last night he did not look like there were
any yeah, ill effects to one, and he had been
practicing for the previous two weeks. And I understand that
this is this is kind of gravy because you thought
it was going to be mid December. But if he
was this close on a short week, how many guys
(28:55):
do how many times do guys miss a game on
Sunday and then our immediately ruled out so they can
have that extra rest the week after That would have
been the play for me, Like I actually would have
understood it more Manzi if they didn't play Joe Burrow
last night. Then I would say, like, Okay, now I
see why you didn't play them in week twelve. You
wanted that extra rest. Maybe they don't beat the Ravens
last night with Joe Flacco, but that makes more sense
(29:16):
to me seeing how good he was last night. Now
doesn't add up on why he didn't play last Sunday,
which really could have had the Bengals in this playoff picture.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, oh, it could have been a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
They missed opportunitytunity for sure. She's Moncey Milanio. So I'm
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Speaker 1 (29:46):
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I look up and the Bears had the football, DeAndre
Swift is running somewhere. He was in the end zone earlier,
(30:25):
had just a big runs. He's on the field right now.
Bears converting a third down and getting to midfield wasn't
It wasn't to DeAndre Swift. It was to Olamedes Zechias
and the Bears are now Yes, no midfield. I thought
this was an all Eagles game, by the.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Way, Yeah, well you really did, yes, really?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
The Bears have looked, I think, better than and anticipated expected.
They're not it's not that they're great, but they're good.
They're good on many you know, aspects of the game.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
They're good.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I thought they were frauds. Yeah, I really did. I
looked at who they be stand and what they have
done over the last couple of weeks, and I was
just each time. I don't know if my threshold was
too high. I wasn't impressed. But right now, going to
Philly on a short week, have a seven to three lead,
move the football. That's all you can ask for. It
(31:29):
may be saying more about Philadelphia, but yeah, I'm starting
to think my Bears are frauds. Take maybe not aging
so well.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, they've won four in a row.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
They've won eight out out of their last nine. The
only loss came to the Ravens without Lamar Jackson. But
I think they just they look good. They're not great,
but they're good in so many different parts of the
game that it gives them the edge a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
They're running the ball manang Guy has added a physical
presence to go along with DeAndre Swift, and honestly, Caleb
Williams looks better. Do is not trying to do everything?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, he's not playing here at the ball correct?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah? Yeah, and so and it's not just all Rome
with Dunza. They're getting Luther Burden into the action. DeAndre
Swift excuse me, DJ Moore at a touchdown last week.
So yeah, the Bears are filling out and Caleb Williams
just gets a first down on the third and one,
so even further on Eagles territory.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Just happy.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I feel like last year, when you're losing, it's hard
to look happy. I understand all that, but even his
face just looks different when you're watching Caleb Williams play
a little more relaxed, a little bit, you know, having fun.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, we'll di more into this coming up in just
a little bit as the Eagles and Bears again the
lone NFL game on this Black Friday, but there are
other games as well, and Isaac low and Kron brings
just one of them.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
This is Game Time Games on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Hello, Isaac, what have you got today?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You know what I think, Dan and Monsei. It's the
perfect topic for a day like today. I got DIBs.
Speaking of dibbs, just one quick note. After an Old
Missus victory in the Egg Bowl, Lane Kiffin said after
the game he has not made a decision yet about
his future and that he has a lot of praying
to do about it. Onto the business at hand. We're
(33:26):
gonna have the gang here place their DIBs on their
favorite football holidays. So among those to choose from, of course,
Thanksgiving Today, Black Friday, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve,
New Year's Day? What football holidays do we have DIBs on?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
You know, I'm gonna take DIBs on New Year's Day.
I like New Year's Day because I means, like, if
I'm working at school, but if I'm at home, I
don't have to leave my bed and I don't have
to see anyone. I don't have for Thanksgiving, Like can
we talking about to go see your family? You gotta
like do things on Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Don't expect to see me. If I don't have to work,
I don't have to leave my bed and I could
just watch football day.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I was gonna take New Year's Day because I thought
the non college football fan, it's not that you don't
like college football, it's just not that. And she takes
New Year's Day, I'll say, gosh, that's okay, that's okay.
I'll take New Year's Eve. Then I'll just take New
Year's even leading up to it because there are at
times playoff games or back then bowl games that would
(34:27):
lead into New Year's Day. So I'll take New Year's Eve.
I got Thanksgiving. It just feels right, feel sure? Yeah,
lines on Thanksgiving. There's nothing better than that. If you
ask me, Ryan, you want to.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
In, I will take Christmas because usually I'm not working.
I got my mom's home cooking, and I got football.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Nice, all right, Memo yourself, don't text Monsey on New
Year's Day?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You can text me not disturbed?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
All right?
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Next subject here on I got DIBs college football rival games.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
What do you guys have DIBs on there?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I mean, I got DIBs on Ohio State Michigan. Of
course I don't know like fifty percent of it, but yeah,
give me Ohio State Michigan. I got the Iron Bowl.
Oh interesting, ivern in Alabama? Another one just feels right. Yeah,
I know there's there's a big one that's hanging out there. Moncei.
College football rivalries.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You know I have to take because I don't have
a team. I'm going to take the LA rivalry UCLA USCA.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Both teams wearing their home uniforms when they play the
blue in the maroon. Yeah, all right, Ryan Smith, I.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Wasn't gonna go on Michigan Ohio State only because of
the fighting and the pepper spring.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
That's great. I love that, but I'll.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Take a I'll take Texas versus Oklahoma, Ah Red River
one of the better ones.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Isaac. You're at college football at Fiscionado.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
You know, I literally just discovered this just for the heck.
I decided to google it. And I had no idea
that the rivalry between Middle Tennessee and Western can which
started in nineteen fourteen, was known as the one hundred
Miles of Hate. That's a pretty good name for a
rivalry game. One other note, Dan, I don't know if
you knew this as far as Ohio State Michigan, but
(36:13):
Woody Hayes, the legendary Ohio State head coach, his home
phone number was listed in the phone book. If you
call that same phone number literally to this day, literally
right now, and I can give you the number. If
you call what was his home phone number, it will
automatically play a recording of a Woody Hayes pep talk before.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
A Michigan game.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I swear that is like.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
The coolest thing I just found out about.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
All right.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Our next item, Oh boy, this is going to be
controversial around here. Look out now.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
By the way, no one said army Navy. No, no
one said yes. The biggest rivalry that maybe there ultimately.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Is yeah, uh, Thanksgiving leftovers?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
What do we have DIBs on?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Green bean castrole?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know?
Speaker 8 (37:02):
My mother in law made a spectacular one yesterday.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
By the way, turkey, I got DIBs on just the turkey.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I got mashed potatoes. I think when it heats well,
it does and you could throw some like the Yeah,
well you know love that?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, fair enough?
Speaker 10 (37:25):
All right, Ryan, Well some people call it dressing, some
people call it stuffing. But I take that that is delicious,
especially how my mom makes it.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
How does your mom make it good?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
And you can't have any geez? Is there some tea
there between you and most about leftover?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
He just is a hater that I call him by
his proper name and not the name that he wants to.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's not you, Ryan, Your legal name is what I'm
gonna call you. Change your name legally to pop there
and I will call.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
You that, and uh, I will actually have my children
answer in lieu of me. They have DIBs on everything.
And on that note, that is another edition of Game Time.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Game This is game Time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
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with ABC following their win in the Egg Bowl. Plus,
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