November 28, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos, in for Doug, react to the Chiefs, Lions, and Ravens all losing on Thanksgiving and they explain why one of these teams' struggles are not as surprising as you think. Did the Bengals ruin their season by not playing Joe Burrow last week? Plus, Dan and Monse debate whether or not Lane Kiffin actually has made a decision on his future after beating Mississippi State in the Egg Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hopefully the Thanksgiving hangover is mild, whether it be from
food or other vices. Welcome in. It's a Black Friday,
but there's no dark cloud here, Moncy. Four hours of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, boom, what up America.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Monsey and I are
in for Doug today, who was just in for the
Herd and Colin Cowhard, but we're also going to be
in later on for Cavino and Rich. So it's four
hours of us talking a lot of football, some NBA
as well college variety of the pig skin. But we
start in the National Football League as the Eagles and
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Bears are about to start in Philadelphia in their Black
Friday game. But I want to focus on what happened
yesterday because in the Thanksgiving affairs that we had in
Detroit in Dallas Arlington, to be specific, and in Baltimore,
the three favorites yesterday heading into the game. The Lions
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were favored by two and a half over the Packers, Chiefs,
who were about a field goal favorite over the Cowboys,
and the Ravens a touchdown favorite over the Cincinnati Bengals.
All fell. They were all defeated by their underdog opponents.
And as I'm watching Joe Burrow return to the Cincinnati
Bengals and I'm watching the Ravens fall apart, I'm saying
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to myself, this is a lot of what we saw
earlier today. These teams that we were accustomed to had
two years ago, Monzi, the Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions were
the three of the four best teams we had in
the National Football League, like truly, like the Lions we
know were a quarter all away from going to the
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Super Bowl. We saw the Chiefs and Ravens play great games.
This is where we are in the NFL. And it
felt like yesterday and Week thirteen, before all of our
eyes on Thanksgiving Day, what's going to be the highest
rated games that we're gonna see all regular season. It
felt like it was a bit of a changing of
the guard. With those three.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Defeats, yesterday's games just proved what we have seen all season.
There is no dominant team, and the teams that we
expected to be dominant coming off of last season have
been underwhelming.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The teams that have surprised you, there's several.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Teams surprising us this season, and it's none of the
teams that we anticipated or expected. It's just this has
just been the season. I thought that that's what the
show key scene of it was. It's like, this is
that type of season. I really don't know who's who
anymore and who is going to come out on top.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know who the dominant teams are. I don't either,
but I do know that it's definitely not these three teams. Yeah, yeah,
I know that for sure. And I don't know if
you have the same feeling that I did. But one
team stood out to me in being the biggest failure.
Did a team stand out to you yesterday? And it
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kind of hits you to say, like, huh, okay, there's
something more to this. Did you have any of that?
Because I'm gonna make a case for one of the teams.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think I felt that with all of them, but
there may be one that a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You want to know what team I'm worried about the most?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
What team were you worried about the Moe the Lions?
That's what I was going to say. Really, yes, I
didn't think you were going to pick the line. That's why.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
What do you think I was going to say?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I thought you were going.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
To say maybe the Chiefs, because the Chiefs, for so long,
their defense, you know, was so good, and right now
it's like their defense is not there, and that has
been the last couple of weeks. But to me, the
Lions are the ones where they're like, oh no, it
does seem like you are not at all what I
was expecting. It seems like the minute you rattle Jared
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Goff just a little bit, he cannot do much.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
If he is all the time in the world, he's great.
But the minute you rattle him, Jared Goff looks rough out.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
There, and it's rougher without Amanas Saint Brown, of course,
who's got a low angle sprain. They play next week
on Thursday night against the Cowboys, so it's after that
that Amana Sam Brown's likely going to get his full rest.
Maybe he plays in Week fourteen. I'm not sure, but
when Dan Campbell gave the timetable out yesterday, it said
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maybe one to two week injury, and that lends to
him maybe getting the extra time because they'll have exactly
one week before they play their next game, which again
is Thursday against the Cowboys. The reason I didn't pick
the Chiefs and the reason I didn't pick the Ravens
is because of their quarterbacks. Like I don't think Lamar
looks the same either. Are a couple of runs last
night that I thought, Okay, this is more of the
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old Lamar. But I just don't think that he's fully
back from the hamstring injury. But I think he will
at some point, and it may be in twenty twenty six,
so I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about
Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reid's going to retire some day. I
don't think it's going to be after this season. I
think the Chiefs will figure something out that Travis Kelcey
obviously has a decision at the end of last year.
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But when I look at the Lions and you mentioned,
like Jared Goff and we mentioned the lack of coordinators,
I go back to the game that I mentioned earlier
of the Lions being about a quarter away from the
Super Bowl, and it's just very likely, Manci, that that
is as close as the Lions are going to get
with this version of the team. And this version of
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the team is going to change at some point, just
like the version of the Chiefs changed, just like the
version of the Ravens will probably change. But the Ravens
in Chiefs have their quarterback, and it's not that Jared Goff.
This isn't a referendum on Jared Goff. I just think
that the Lions may have had their run. And it's
so surprising me because now you need Frank Reraig now
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to come out of retirement. I've loved their offensive line
more so than what Baltimore and Kansas City's at Kansas
City's got on the offensive line. Now they've got injuries
littered across the line. So it's probably not going to
be the year for the Chiefs. But I just look
at how close the Lions came a couple of years ago.
Their defense doesn't seem to be anywhere near anything to
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stop anything. And if you're gonna put everything on the
shoulders of Jamier Gibbs. I mean even the what was
what was their nickname? I was gonna call him thunder
and Lightning, but it wasn't. Yes and knuckles. Is that
it does that sound right?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Character? Yes? Okay, Yes, that's that's David Montgomery and Jamior Gibbs.
It's not the same. Like Gibbs is great, David Montgomery
doesn't seem to have the same effect that he's had previously.
So I'm just really worried about the Lions, and as
they've been a great story. They've been a team that
people have wanted to follow and wanted to cheer for
because of how bad they've been for so long. But
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now when you lose both of your coordinators dead coaching jobs,
those coordinators take other coaches. Dan Campbell has got the
culture at some point. I I hope the message doesn't
ring hollow, But I'm more worried about the Lions than
I am the other two teams about bouncing back and
continuing success over the next couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I think you said it right.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It's just last year we really saw the Lions have
this like step on your throat mentality, have this offense
that almost seemed unstoppable, and then this year everything is
just a little bit underwhelming. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
The losing your coordinators, of course that was a.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Big thing, but you also weren't gonna change the scheme
that much, you know, like Dan Campbell's been there, so
it's like you, why would you? Things were gonna You
were gonna stay on the same game, the game plan
that you had, and in a year where like there
is no dominant team, I really thought the Lions were
gonna look, at least offensively like the team we had
seen last year that just did not care if they
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dropped seventy seventy on you, it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
The more we score the better. They can't. They can't.
They don't look like that right now.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
They don't look like that team and it's only one
year removed, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
They went to Baltimore earlier this season and had a
big win when Lamar was healthy at that at that
point of the season, and then they ended up losing
to the Chiefs. The lost the home game to the Vikings,
and we saw what happened against the Eagles. I thought
yesterday's game was going to be that matchup where they
get revenge from the Week one game where they were
dominated by Green Bay and it just appeared to me
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that now maybe they just don't have the horses to
do that, and that's what and it was. It was
a bit of a letdown because I didn't realize it
after the Lions lost to the Packers. It was more
of taking the day in as a whole, like the
Ravens are going to have to make some changes and
Derek Henry's not going to be and Derek Henry actually
kind of still looks like Derrick Henry. Maybe not the
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ninety yard touchdown breakthrough or stiff arming Josh Norman in
the next week.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Maybe you'd like of course he does.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely, but I just wonder with the
line because I mean, it was such a good run.
And again, the Chiefs and Ravens have their quarterbacks and
it's not meant to disrespect Jared Goff, but I just
don't feel as comfortable with them moving forward. And it
didn't hit me until last night watching Lamar turn it
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over a couple of times. He had the fumble where
he was trying to hold the football back and it's
just like, man, it's just not their night. It's just
not their season, and I think that's a reasonable excuse.
I don't think you can say that for the Lions.
I don't think you could say that, you know, it's
just not their year this year. I don't think so.
I think that we're seeing a little bit of diminishing
returns since that NFC Championship game two years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, because even with the Chiefs,
you're kind of just like, it may not be their year,
But that doesn't mean I'm ruling them out for next
year or the year after.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
It's like, if they don't sneak in, it's like they're
going to come back, and I would bet next year
that they do make the playoffs. With the same thing
with the Ravens. It's not they don't look good, but
they it's the Ravens are weird. It's like they started
with the bad defense, but their defense seems to have
gotten better.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But then Lamar.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Jackson got hurt, and I agree, he doesn't look like
he's one hundred percent at all. I sometimes wonder remember
when Jahn Morant stopped doing dunks because he was afraid
to get hurt. I'm wondering if Lamar is a little
bit afraid because he's a little banged up and so
he's holding back, just like Jahmran literally was like, I'm
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not dunking anymore. I'm not doing this anymore when we
used to love seeing him do that. He looks like,
I don't know if it's the injuries or that he's
a little bit scared because he's banged up.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But he's holding back.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And it just made me think of Jahn Morant when
he said that that he was gonna not dunk anymore.
But with the Lions against a Packers team that I
don't that I haven't been impressed with this season for
you to at home not be able to look good.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Even the eye test with the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I know the score was thirty one to twenty four,
but the eye test for the Lions wasn't great yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, And I think that you're gonna face it and
you may not believe in the Packers. I believe in
them more than maybe others do. Even the Packer fans,
and the Packer fans believe in the Packers. They just
don't believe in Matt Lafleur as their head coach think
that that's what's fair to say. I just don't think
that they can. They could navigate the NFC playoff picture
and beat teams that are better than they are, and
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I thought that that was kind of their hallmark previously
two years ago. Then last year, you know, they lose
to the Commanders in the divisional playoffs with home field,
and now this year, just to even get into the
postseason would be difficult. But I don't think the Lions
would do any damage. And you're right about the Lamar.
I thought there were a couple of runs last night
where Lamar did turn it on at the end, but
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I don't think he did against the Jets on Sunday.
I thought there were a couple of runs where he
just wanted to ease up, And I think some of that, honestly,
is probably psychological. But it's also like, listen, we were
one and five, We're now in the thick of it.
If I risk anything or do anything here, it's all
for nought.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That may have come to backfire last night against the
Cincinnati Bengals, but I'm just not worried about I'm not
worried about the Ravens as a whole. I'm not worried
about the Ravens organization over the next couple of years.
I'm not saying that there aren't gaps to fill with
Derrick Henry and pieces on the defense. It's just it
feels that the Lions to me, reached a point where
even a couple of years ago, it didn't matter who
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they would play, they would play their style and if
they won, great, and they won a lot, and they
won a lot last year, and now they're not able
to do that this year, and it just felt it
felt different. And now tell me the Cowboys and Lions
play on Thursday to start Week fourteen. Yeah, who's the
hot team coming in right?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Definitely the Cowboys one hundred percent, which is crazy. Yeah,
you know, last year with the Lions, it was like people,
the team's viewers me, I was like, man, the Lions
are a big threat because their defense is not maybe
they're going to shut you out, but it wasn't their defense.
It's just that their defense was good enough and their
offense was so good that you couldn't keep up offensively
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with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's not this year at all.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Know, and the defense should aiden Hutchinson and get after
you with sacks and hopefully turnovers. And I mean they've
had injuries last year in the second area as well
and this year, but I just every team has injuries
every time, and it's just the Lions where I just
thought like, Wow, I wonder if that window was closing.
I remember with the Seahawks when they lost in the
Super Bowl forty nine to the Patriots, which we all
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remember the interception at the one yard line. They had.
The whole next season was a malaise, like it really
just I think they were hungover from that, talking about
Thanksgiving hangovers. But it was then the next year where
all of a sudden, now you weren't competing with the
better teams, Like they got ran off the field by
the Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs, and the Falcons ended
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up going to the Super Bowl that year, but they
were just they didn't have a chance, and all of
a sudden, now you're saying to yourself, wow, we've fallen behind,
Like we were the cream of the crop, we were
the best in the NFL, and now we're not even
better than the top teams in our conference. And I
felt like that's the feeling I got with the Lions
last night totally.
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Speaker 2 (14:46):
That would be too easy, just like playing Joe Burrow
last week for the Cincinnati Bengals, Because if you watched
last night, I a couple of times wondered on Quarterback
Sneaks how Joe Burrow was going to handle I want
I was going to do on the move. I wondered
I was going to do when he ran the football.
And there seemed to me no ill effects for Joe
Burrow in that win against the Ravens. Heck, he was
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our tireract player of the day. Then why didn't he
play last week?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Are you saying this because I'm in the middle here
and I know that's not the answer you want. Are
you saying this though, because they won? Because I feel
like at the time this was the right decision. I
think the Bengals were like, I don't know if we
can beat the Patriots, why are we going to rush
you on a short week. Let's bring you back for
the divisional game? But then you see him and you're like,
(15:35):
it does seem like you could have maybe played, Mancy.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't mean to use your words against you. I'm
going to you just said that there's no great teams
in the NFL. I know, So why would you think
the Patriots are any different than the Ravens or any
other team, especially when you're at home? So if you
if that thinking doesn't fit for the Bengals to think
the Patriots were too tough of an opponent.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yes, you are correct, I understand that, but still, just
the Patriots have won nine in a row. Nice.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, yes, that means they're due for loss, And.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
You're right, but we knew that the Bengals defense can't
stop a nosebleed. So I think at the time, at
the time, it was the right choice. But maybe now
when they're looking at it, Oh, maybe you could have
won that game that you only lost by six.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The Bengals right now, their playoff chance, according to NFL
dot Com is two percent. Nice, they have a two percent.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
So you're saying there's a chance.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But leading into the Patriots game, if they would have lost,
they would have had a less than one percent chance
of making the playoffs, and if they would have won
that game, it would have been one percent. So they
lost the game, so it was less than one so
it went from less than one to two percent. They
weren't entirely eliminated. There's still beyond the Dolphins of the
wild card. However, the reason Joe Burrow came back was
to hopefully win the division, and you have to beat
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your division opponents. But if you don't have Joe Burrow
to beat the Patriots, which, by the way, in a
game that Joe Flacco threw a pick six, Joe Burrow
didn't turn the football over. So there's that is the
reason that you played Joe Burrow. If you get that win,
you're now five and seven with a win over the
Ravens in hand, You got the Bills coming up next week,
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you have the Ravens again, there's an opportunity to knock
them off. You have a win over Pittsburgh earlier this season.
So when you're talking about division and tiebreakers, it was there.
It was the whole reason to get Joe Burrow back.
And Joe Burrow then this week says well, I'm gonna
play regardless if we're in it and if I'm healthy, Like,
that's my mindset to play. And now after one night
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on a Thursday night where they go to Baltimore and win,
which maybe was the one that people thought that they
couldn't do, we're like, wow, look at this. And Joe
Burrow actually looked rusty last night. So now you're saying yourself,
what happens if he gets in rhythm. What happens is
the Bengals can win some more football games than actually
be in this which is the reason why he should
have played five days ago.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You know, Jamar Chase was like, Joe, you need to
play against the Ravens because you know how much I
like to go off against them.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Can't do it without.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You, Yeah, and without Tag and without te Higgins.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So I need you to play. Yeah. Again, I thought
it was the right move. But you're right.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
If you're going to be aggressive, you might as well
be aggressive. Why were you not aggressive from the beginning?
Why are you we aggressive now? Which and I hear you,
but you know, Joe Burrow has been injured a lot
throughout his career.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And so there's that It's that balance.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Do we we have to be aggressive? But knowing that
he has been hurt, how aggressive can you be? Do
you want to be?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's just a tough I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He has a turf had a turf toe injury, because
now it feels like it's in the rear view mirror.
That took him eight weeks to recover from to be
able to nine weeks when he was activated and then
ultimately playing. He was injured in Week two, so we'll
give it ten eleven weeks to recover from. I'm just saying,
if Joe Burrow would have reaggravated the injury. He's not
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going to play again this season, which then the Bengals like,
all right, our seasons kind of down the river. I
know you're paying them fifty five million dollars, but it's
also an injury. To my understanding, that wouldn't be something
considering he was able to come back from it a
month earlier than expected, that he'd be able to take
the offseason and be able to recover and be back
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for twenty twenty six. I'm not saying that they're risking
Joe Burrow's feature by playing him last Sunday. But Joe
Burrow wasn't fifty percent last Sunday. Joe Burrow was probably
ninety five percent last Sunday. And so now he goes
and place Thursday night and doesn't look like there are
any ill effects whatsoever in a game where you didn't have,
by the way Jamar Chase because of the suspension that
he played, if the Bengals would have beaten New England,
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and if there wouldn't have been a pick six by
Joe Flacco in that game, the plan for Cincinnati all along,
or their hopes all along, would be right at the
footstep they'd be a game back right now of the
division lead, and then the thick of it with a
schedule that includes the Dolphins, Cardinals and ends with the
Rounds after that Bill's Ravens game. Those are winnable football games.
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And so I just don't know why in a span
of five days, Joe Burrow looked like he had no
ill effects Thursday night, but wasn't good enough to play
in week twelve.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity for the Bengals,
and it's just it's just tough.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Why didn't Maybe he even should have played a little
bit against New England, maybe like not as a starter,
have yeah, have Flacco out there, but just to get
in a rhythm, because you're right, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
He wasn't bad, but he wasn't his normal self.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And you can see it's your first came back understandably,
so so yeah, why did you play a little bit?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Damn it?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Dan, You're right, they could have They could have this. This,
this would have made the AFC way more interesting. But
just last night he did not look like there were
any yeah, ill effects to one and he had been
practicing for the previous two weeks, and I understand that
this is this is kind of gravy because he thought
it was going to be mid December. But if he was,
this club sent a short week. How many guys do
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How many times do guys miss a game on Sunday
and then are immediately ruled out so they can have
that extra rest the week after. That would have been
the play for me, Like I actually would have understood
it more Manzi if they didn't play Joe Burrow last night,
then I would say, like, Okay, now, I see why
you didn't playim in week twelve. You wanted that extra rest.
Maybe they don't beat the Ravens last night with Joe Flacco,
but that makes more sense to me seeing how good
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he was last night. Now doesn't add up on why
he didn't play last Sunday, which really could have had
the Bengals in this playoff picture.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, oh, it could have been a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
They missed opportunityunity for sure. Thanks for listening to The
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Speaker 2 (21:50):
Happy Friday for you, Welcome in. It is a Black
Friday here on Fox Sports Radio. For the next three hours,
Mansos and I have got you covered, including the football
action in the program game and in the college game.
People forget Monci. The last year, Georgia Tech had Georgia
on the ropes. I mean it was Georgia was out
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of it, come back, got a huge win last year,
able to make the playoffs. Now they lost a notre
name in the quarterfinals, but Georgia Tech had them on
the ropes. They're playing again right now and Georgia Tech
just forced to turnover, so they'll have the football in
Bulldog's territory coming up here in just a little bit.
That in addition to the Bears Eagles game that we are.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Watching, you're more in tune with all the things going
on in college football.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Specifically the playoff picture.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Georgia Tech, if they happen to pull this off, do
they get into the playoff picture.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, it was going to be difficult because of the
ACC Championship game, right now that if this is a
non conference game, they have two conference losses, they have
three teams ahead of them, three schools ahead of them.
With one loss, they would need a lot of help
to get in, and a win here probably doesn't move
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them up in the rankings high enough where they need
to be, but it could maybe make people pay attention.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
More and if others lose, maybe yes, it can help.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I think it's kind of a long shot. You know,
if we were have talked a couple of weeks ago
before they lost to Pitt like they did, then there's
a whole different conversation about Georgia Tech. But I think
it's more about the Virginia, excuse me, the Georgia aspect
of this. Where Georgia you've got the SEC championship game
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on the horizon. Ole Miss wins today, there's a lot
at stake first round by and the whole deal. And
if you don't win today, now there's going to be
a lot of confluence of events that the committee is
going to have to sortow fun we shall see. I'm
trying to do it in the most succinct way possible
because it's easier. Like when Auburn and Alabama play. It's
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a little bit because it's a conference game and it
sorts itself out. However, in a non conference situation where
all of George's SEC games are are in the barn,
and it just makes it a little bit more tricky.
So anyway, she is Manti Belanios. I'm Dan Byer speaking
of the college game. Before we get to the Dallas Cowboys.
Isaac made mention that Lan Kiffin spoke after their Egg
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Bowl win against Mississippi State with ABC. This is what
the old miss coach had to say after the contest today.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Man, the soo liar that is that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sounds like someone who's one step out the door.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Absolutely, you're gonna make this important.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Decision in a matter of hours. You're gonna go home
and think about it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
That's yeah, that's a lie. That that portion is a lie,
the the facade of thinking that you have not thought
about the job and your whole sole focus has been
on the Egg Bowl when you your family is toured
Gainesville and Baton Rouge, when all of that has happened.
When the statement was released that there will be an
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announcement on Saturday, You're not making a twenty four hour window.
No one believes that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I mean, I'm glad your team won, but this whole
thing has been handled. I know that the calendar it
forces a hand like this, but it's been handled.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Not well, and I don't know how to fix it.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
But I would. I would be so annoyed if I
was a rebel playing for this guy, you.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Would be annoyed.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I would be annoyed, really.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Like as so a football player, you would be annoyed
with my.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Coach entertaining this idea when we're having such a successful
season that you want to leave.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I understand that, but I don't. I I get that
portion of it. I didn't believe Lin Kiffin when he
said earlier in the week that guys players are different,
players are kids different now, But I think that I
think that the players. I think that you have to
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have an understanding of who you are and where you
are and what is happening now. Ole miss can say
right now, we're better than LSU. We're better than LSU. Look,
we won more games. We're a better team. Like we are,
we are better than LSU. Is it a better program
than LSU? Is it a better job than LSU? Those
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are the decisions that lank Kiffin is making like this
twenty twenty five version of ole Miss is no doubt
better than LSU. But is Lane Kiffen going to have
another year like this for ole Miss? Is this the
start of something big? I don't know if it is,
and I think that he doesn't know if it is,
and which is the reason why he's entertained these other spots.
If you thought that ole Miss was a sleeping giant
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that was about to become in Alabama, Georgia or LSU
or even what Florida was, then you're not entertaining these calls.
And I don't think that Lane Kiffen leaves that that
is the case. But if I'm a player right now, yeah,
like I, it may stink, but you kind of have
to understand where he's he's coming from. I wish he
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would stay. I do, but it's I I in Monty.
You caught me in a spot where I had rose
colored glasses on a week ago because I thought that
there would be a way for Lane Kiffin to take
another job and coach ole Miss through the playoffs, and
it's that's not feasible. But it's not feasible. I didn't
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think because of the players. The reason that I thought
that was a good idea was because of the players.
So that's why, like I'm caught in this spot is
I just don't think that the thousands and thousands of
Ole Miss fans that would be traveling and the boosters
there would like it that Lane Kiffin was about to leave.
I don't think that administrators would like that he would
still be coaching Ole Miss when he's about to be
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the next head coach at LSU. I don't think LSU
would like it now as I thought about it, But
I didn't think it was about the players, so that
that's the whole reason that I thought that. But I
think that the reason now and why you caught me
is I still think that the players may understand. And
it's not that the players also have the option to leave,
because not every player does. But I just think that
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they're more rational in what this than someone who bleeds
Ole Miss, Rebel, blue and red.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
And maybe you're right, and you know, maybe he has
been more upfront with his players than we know of,
and he has been fully transparent, and so maybe they're
not feeling like this. But the picture from the outside
looking in, it just seems like you're messing with my emotions.
If I am a student at ole miss or a player,
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you're messing with my emotions at this point. Maybe he
has been transparent with them, right, and this is just
for us on the outside looking in to see it
this way, But I don't all of this. It just
is not How do you go into the end of
the season when you're having such a historic season and
want to play to your fullest and be you know, vibes,
big on vibes and have the right vibes with your
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team when you're one foot out the door, and that's
what it feels like. You're one foot out the door
and it looks like you're going to LSU because Florida already, right,
the reports are that Florida has kind of maybe moved on,
moved on because they felt like there's been not a
lot of clear communication on his end. So it's LSU
is where he's going, which again we talked about this
Dan earlier. I was like, why would you go and
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want to kind of rewrite the history that is LSU,
because that's the only way you're going to make a
name for yourself. Are you going to be better than
the coaches that have been at LSU, because there's been
some pretty big names.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yes, Nick Saban, Yeah, that's a pretty big name, big one. However,
Nick Saban again left LSU for the NFL and then
goes to Alabama, and now we really kind of forget
that he was I don't we don't forget he was
LS He's coach, but he's known as.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Alabama's absolutely, but he's also Nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Les Miles won a national championship at LSU. Ed Or
Jaran won a national championship at LSU. Neither of them
have jobs right now, And I think what Lane Kiffin's
as is, well, I may not be like Nick Saban,
who I coached under, but I know ed Orgeron. I'm
familiar with him from the USC days. And I think
lank kiffn probably finds himself in the middle of Nick
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Saban and the less Miles than ed Orgeron. And you
know what that is. That's multi that's a national championship team.
Maybe not multi national championships. But I think his point
is is if I get the players in the funding
and the salary that I would desire, and I don't
know if it's totally about money, but that would be
the place to go where you can consistently win. And
if this is the greatest season in ole Miss history. Manzi,
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when he still had players transferring out of the transfer
portal recently over the last couple of years and going
to other top elite programs, I think that tells you
that it's probably not sustainable for ole Miss. And that's where,
like I always just come back to the fact that
I think ole Miss has to remember that they're ole
Miss and that they're not going to be LSU Florida.
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It's crazy because Florida has been a tough time, but
Alabama and Georgia and those in that breath here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show, whenever you heard Doug talk about
programs and programs of money and who's backing the school
that he always mentions is Texas A and M. Look
at Texas A and M right now. I mean, they're
on the verge of being in the SEC Championship game,
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so much at stake for them. Now you've added another
school to the mix that is now competing at a
high level. Either throw in Texas and Oklahoma makes it
even more difficult for ole Miss. To compete, So I
think link Kiffin understands the big picture all of this.
My heart really would like him to stay at Ole Miss,
but I think the players understand it. It just feels
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like there's a bit of a game going on right now.
I don't know how you avoid the game. I think
that the statement last week didn't help the game that
they are playing. And I'm using in an air Coote
quotes almost like a game that you would play in
a relationship. But to sit there and say you're going
to have an announcement on Saturday and play a game
on Friday, and then use the next twenty four hours
to pray as you were praying for or preparing for
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this game just isn't realistic to me. We know he's
been thinking about this job for weeks and weeks and weeks,
and those comments there kind of tell us what's going
to happen. It would be the upset of the century.
If he stays in Oxford, it would.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Be the upset of the centric. Except for everybody at
Ole Miss.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know they would love it, but I think that
they think he's gone as well.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah it does seem that way, absolutely, But so you think,
like this is as good as it's going to get
for ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, and so he knows that, yes, and that's why
he's one foot out the door.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yes, that's exactly. That's exactly it. Especially in the arms
race of what college football is now, it's actually worse.
And it's why when people have talked over the last
couple of years of why doesn't college football just go
to like an NFL model and I have thirty or
forty teams, Like there's you know, the NFL is based
on parody. But even if you have thirty or forty teams,
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they're going to be have nots and haves. In college football.
There always have been in talking to and hearing people
talk about twenty years ago, teams that would emerge. You
would always trade your roster for what say Ohio State had,
for what back then USC had, for what LSU. If
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you're ninety five percent of college football, you are trading
your entire roster for what those schools have. And it's
just difficult for ole Miss to do this year in
and year out, and for Lane Kiffin to do it.
I think that he understands that that if he wants
to do what he wants to do and do it
at the highest level. It's probably not going to happen
at in Oxford even with this magical season.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
But with the ever changing landscape that is college football,
I feel like there's just gonna be constant revolving doors
everywhere with coaching, with players in the whole thing. Right,
So like this building of a program, you're gonna go
to LSU.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And the pressure.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I don't know how how short or long his leash
is going to because LSU is expecting greatness here, great point.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Here with ole Miss, You're you're great, You're loved, You're the.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Heros isn't always greener?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, And so I am having a hard I'm having
a hard time. But even even if it's I mean
that this is as good as is going to get.
But why is that? Why does it have to be bad?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Because if if the landscape is what Lane Kiffin and
people believe, there's a chance that ole Miss could fall
on hard times in Lane Kiffen could be out of
a job in three years.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That means the same situation at LSU.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and get paid significantly more or have more opportunity
to bring in players. So that doesn't happen with more money.
The drawback to LSU that I actually think is how
crazy things have gone over the last couple of months
with Brian Kelly firing the ad, with the governor getting involved.
Now that that's that would be the crazy part of
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the relationship where I'm like, all right, I'm not really
necessarily keen on all these cooks in the kitchen. Yeah,
but we talked with Chris Gordy yesterday who hosts on
Lockdown SEC and Chris a part of our affiliate in
Houston at Sports Talk seven ninety, and he said that
that isn't the case, that it's more stable than what's
been going on. And there's obviously been a change in
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the hierarchy, AD and head coach, but that would be
the worry to me if all of the politicians are
in it. And I don't know the landscape of the
the of what it looks like in Mississippi, but everybody's
all in on LSU football and that is it. It's
just at a at another level. And I think that
Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin understands that and we wouldn't have
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would we would understand more if Ole miss was eight
and four, not with a one loss team on the
verge of maybe doing some damage in the College Football Playoff.
But if they were eight and four, we would all
understand this and it would be a lot easier to understand. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I think that's a good point. That it's just seeing
the schedule and seeing what they're doing. You're like really,
and like I feel like, again, he wasn't NFL.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You've done it, You've done it right.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You went beyond and you did the pros and here
you're now back in college football.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And sometimes the simplicity is better than the complicated world
at LSU or the governor. The governor is going to
get involved with you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I agree, Like I would prefer leave me alone over here.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think that it's not always greener. I think everybody
has probably learned that lesson at some point, But Lane
Kiffin wants I think that opportunity and considering where his
road has been. When you go and you're at Tennessee
and you leave after a year to take your dream
job at USC, that's probably something else that kind of
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burns at him that it didn't work out at USC.
So is this all that I'm going to do? So? Yeah,
I coached in the pros, but it didn't work out
in the pros. Maybe that's what would be next after LSU.
If it works at LSU.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Who knows, back to the pros, who knows.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I mean that would probably be the next step.
I don't know where else you would go in college
football to if you were to succeed at LSU, to
have that success. But there's probably something that he wants
to do that he hasn't accomplished, and I think that
that's what would allow him to do that, is try
to I don't know, it's not righting the wrong of
the USC, but I think he has another crack at
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what he didn't accomplish in LA. She's Moncey Milanio. So
I'm dan Byer. But again, decision tomorrow. A lot of
praying tonight for Lane Kiffin and then we'll find out
whether he stays or goes. Yeah, he's gone. He gone.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hopefully the Thanksgiving hangover is mild, whether it be from
food or other vices. Welcome in. It's a Black Friday,
but there's no dark cloud here, Moncy. Four hours of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, boom, what up America.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Monsey and I are
in for Doug today, who was just in for the
Herd and Colin Cowhard, but we're also going to be
in later on for Cavino and Rich. So it's four
hours of us talking a lot of football, some NBA
as well college variety of the pig skin. But we
start in the National Football League as the Eagles and
(00:55):
Bears are about to start in Philadelphia in their Black
Friday game. But I want to focus on what happened
yesterday because in the Thanksgiving affairs that we had in
Detroit in Dallas Arlington, to be specific, and in Baltimore,
the three favorites yesterday heading into the game. The Lions
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were favored by two and a half over the Packers, Chiefs,
who were about a field goal favorite over the Cowboys,
and the Ravens a touchdown favorite over the Cincinnati Bengals.
All fell. They were all defeated by their underdog opponents.
And as I'm watching Joe Burrow return to the Cincinnati
Bengals and I'm watching the Ravens fall apart, I'm saying
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to myself, this is a lot of what we saw
earlier today. These teams that we were accustomed to had
two years ago, Monzi, the Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions were
the three of the four best teams we had in
the National Football League, like truly, like the Lions we
know were a quarter all away from going to the
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Super Bowl. We saw the Chiefs and Ravens play great games.
This is where we are in the NFL. And it
felt like yesterday and Week thirteen, before all of our
eyes on Thanksgiving Day, what's going to be the highest
rated games that we're gonna see all regular season. It
felt like it was a bit of a changing of
the guard. With those three.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Defeats, yesterday's games just proved what we have seen all season.
There is no dominant team, and the teams that we
expected to be dominant coming off of last season have
been underwhelming.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The teams that have surprised you, there's several.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Teams surprising us this season, and it's none of the
teams that we anticipated or expected. It's just this has
just been the season. I thought that that's what the
show key scene of it was. It's like, this is
that type of season. I really don't know who's who
anymore and who is going to come out on top.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know who the dominant teams are. I don't either,
but I do know that it's definitely not these three teams. Yeah, yeah,
I know that for sure. And I don't know if
you have the same feeling that I did. But one
team stood out to me in being the biggest failure.
Did a team stand out to you yesterday? And it
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kind of hits you to say, like, huh, okay, there's
something more to this. Did you have any of that?
Because I'm gonna make a case for one of the teams.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think I felt that with all of them, but
there may be one that a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You want to know what team I'm worried about the most?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
What team were you worried about the Moe the Lions?
That's what I was going to say. Really, yes, I
didn't think you were going to pick the line. That's why.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
What do you think I was going to say?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I thought you were going.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
To say maybe the Chiefs, because the Chiefs, for so long,
their defense, you know, was so good, and right now
it's like their defense is not there, and that has
been the last couple of weeks. But to me, the
Lions are the ones where they're like, oh no, it
does seem like you are not at all what I
was expecting. It seems like the minute you rattle Jared
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Goff just a little bit, he cannot do much.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
If he is all the time in the world, he's great.
But the minute you rattle him, Jared Goff looks rough out.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
There, and it's rougher without Amanas Saint Brown, of course,
who's got a low angle sprain. They play next week
on Thursday night against the Cowboys, so it's after that
that Amana Sam Brown's likely going to get his full rest.
Maybe he plays in Week fourteen. I'm not sure, but
when Dan Campbell gave the timetable out yesterday, it said
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maybe one to two week injury, and that lends to
him maybe getting the extra time because they'll have exactly
one week before they play their next game, which again
is Thursday against the Cowboys. The reason I didn't pick
the Chiefs and the reason I didn't pick the Ravens
is because of their quarterbacks. Like I don't think Lamar
looks the same either. Are a couple of runs last
night that I thought, Okay, this is more of the
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old Lamar. But I just don't think that he's fully
back from the hamstring injury. But I think he will
at some point, and it may be in twenty twenty six,
so I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about
Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reid's going to retire some day. I
don't think it's going to be after this season. I
think the Chiefs will figure something out that Travis Kelcey
obviously has a decision at the end of last year.
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But when I look at the Lions and you mentioned,
like Jared Goff and we mentioned the lack of coordinators,
I go back to the game that I mentioned earlier
of the Lions being about a quarter away from the
Super Bowl, and it's just very likely, Manci, that that
is as close as the Lions are going to get
with this version of the team. And this version of
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the team is going to change at some point, just
like the version of the Chiefs changed, just like the
version of the Ravens will probably change. But the Ravens
in Chiefs have their quarterback, and it's not that Jared Goff.
This isn't a referendum on Jared Goff. I just think
that the Lions may have had their run. And it's
so surprising me because now you need Frank Reraig now
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to come out of retirement. I've loved their offensive line
more so than what Baltimore and Kansas City's at Kansas
City's got on the offensive line. Now they've got injuries
littered across the line. So it's probably not going to
be the year for the Chiefs. But I just look
at how close the Lions came a couple of years ago.
Their defense doesn't seem to be anywhere near anything to
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stop anything. And if you're gonna put everything on the
shoulders of Jamier Gibbs. I mean even the what was
what was their nickname? I was gonna call him thunder
and Lightning, but it wasn't. Yes and knuckles. Is that
it does that sound right?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Character? Yes? Okay, Yes, that's that's David Montgomery and Jamior Gibbs.
It's not the same. Like Gibbs is great, David Montgomery
doesn't seem to have the same effect that he's had previously.
So I'm just really worried about the Lions, and as
they've been a great story. They've been a team that
people have wanted to follow and wanted to cheer for
because of how bad they've been for so long. But
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now when you lose both of your coordinators dead coaching jobs,
those coordinators take other coaches. Dan Campbell has got the
culture at some point. I I hope the message doesn't
ring hollow, But I'm more worried about the Lions than
I am the other two teams about bouncing back and
continuing success over the next couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I think you said it right.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It's just last year we really saw the Lions have
this like step on your throat mentality, have this offense
that almost seemed unstoppable, and then this year everything is
just a little bit underwhelming. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
The losing your coordinators, of course that was a.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Big thing, but you also weren't gonna change the scheme
that much, you know, like Dan Campbell's been there, so
it's like you, why would you? Things were gonna You
were gonna stay on the same game, the game plan
that you had, and in a year where like there
is no dominant team, I really thought the Lions were
gonna look, at least offensively like the team we had
seen last year that just did not care if they
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dropped seventy seventy on you, it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
The more we score the better. They can't. They can't.
They don't look like that right now.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
They don't look like that team and it's only one
year removed, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
They went to Baltimore earlier this season and had a
big win when Lamar was healthy at that at that
point of the season, and then they ended up losing
to the Chiefs. The lost the home game to the Vikings,
and we saw what happened against the Eagles. I thought
yesterday's game was going to be that matchup where they
get revenge from the Week one game where they were
dominated by Green Bay and it just appeared to me
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that now maybe they just don't have the horses to
do that, and that's what and it was. It was
a bit of a letdown because I didn't realize it
after the Lions lost to the Packers. It was more
of taking the day in as a whole, like the
Ravens are going to have to make some changes and
Derek Henry's not going to be and Derek Henry actually
kind of still looks like Derrick Henry. Maybe not the
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ninety yard touchdown breakthrough or stiff arming Josh Norman in
the next week.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Maybe you'd like of course he does.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely, but I just wonder with the
line because I mean, it was such a good run.
And again, the Chiefs and Ravens have their quarterbacks and
it's not meant to disrespect Jared Goff, but I just
don't feel as comfortable with them moving forward. And it
didn't hit me until last night watching Lamar turn it
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over a couple of times. He had the fumble where
he was trying to hold the football back and it's
just like, man, it's just not their night. It's just
not their season, and I think that's a reasonable excuse.
I don't think you can say that for the Lions.
I don't think you could say that, you know, it's
just not their year this year. I don't think so.
I think that we're seeing a little bit of diminishing
returns since that NFC Championship game two years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, because even with the Chiefs,
you're kind of just like, it may not be their year,
But that doesn't mean I'm ruling them out for next
year or the year after.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
It's like, if they don't sneak in, it's like they're
going to come back, and I would bet next year
that they do make the playoffs. With the same thing
with the Ravens. It's not they don't look good, but
they it's the Ravens are weird. It's like they started
with the bad defense, but their defense seems to have
gotten better.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But then Lamar.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Jackson got hurt, and I agree, he doesn't look like
he's one hundred percent at all. I sometimes wonder remember
when Jahn Morant stopped doing dunks because he was afraid
to get hurt. I'm wondering if Lamar is a little
bit afraid because he's a little banged up and so
he's holding back, just like Jahmran literally was like, I'm
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not dunking anymore. I'm not doing this anymore when we
used to love seeing him do that. He looks like,
I don't know if it's the injuries or that he's
a little bit scared because he's banged up.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But he's holding back.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And it just made me think of Jahn Morant when
he said that that he was gonna not dunk anymore.
But with the Lions against a Packers team that I
don't that I haven't been impressed with this season for
you to at home not be able to look good.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Even the eye test with the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I know the score was thirty one to twenty four,
but the eye test for the Lions wasn't great yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, And I think that you're gonna face it and
you may not believe in the Packers. I believe in
them more than maybe others do. Even the Packer fans,
and the Packer fans believe in the Packers. They just
don't believe in Matt Lafleur as their head coach think
that that's what's fair to say. I just don't think
that they can. They could navigate the NFC playoff picture
and beat teams that are better than they are, and
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I thought that that was kind of their hallmark previously
two years ago. Then last year, you know, they lose
to the Commanders in the divisional playoffs with home field,
and now this year, just to even get into the
postseason would be difficult. But I don't think the Lions
would do any damage. And you're right about the Lamar.
I thought there were a couple of runs last night
where Lamar did turn it on at the end, but
(11:39):
I don't think he did against the Jets on Sunday.
I thought there were a couple of runs where he
just wanted to ease up, And I think some of that, honestly,
is probably psychological. But it's also like, listen, we were
one and five, We're now in the thick of it.
If I risk anything or do anything here, it's all
for nought.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That may have come to backfire last night against the
Cincinnati Bengals, but I'm just not worried about I'm not
worried about the Ravens as a whole. I'm not worried
about the Ravens organization over the next couple of years.
I'm not saying that there aren't gaps to fill with
Derrick Henry and pieces on the defense. It's just it
feels that the Lions to me, reached a point where
even a couple of years ago, it didn't matter who
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they would play, they would play their style and if
they won, great, and they won a lot, and they
won a lot last year, and now they're not able
to do that this year, and it just felt it
felt different. And now tell me the Cowboys and Lions
play on Thursday to start Week fourteen. Yeah, who's the
hot team coming in right?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Definitely the Cowboys one hundred percent, which is crazy. Yeah,
you know, last year with the Lions, it was like people,
the team's viewers me, I was like, man, the Lions
are a big threat because their defense is not maybe
they're going to shut you out, but it wasn't their defense.
It's just that their defense was good enough and their
offense was so good that you couldn't keep up offensively
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with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's not this year at all.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Know, and the defense should aiden Hutchinson and get after
you with sacks and hopefully turnovers. And I mean they've
had injuries last year in the second area as well
and this year, but I just every team has injuries
every time, and it's just the Lions where I just
thought like, Wow, I wonder if that window was closing.
I remember with the Seahawks when they lost in the
Super Bowl forty nine to the Patriots, which we all
(13:16):
remember the interception at the one yard line. They had.
The whole next season was a malaise, like it really
just I think they were hungover from that, talking about
Thanksgiving hangovers. But it was then the next year where
all of a sudden, now you weren't competing with the
better teams, Like they got ran off the field by
the Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs, and the Falcons ended
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up going to the Super Bowl that year, but they
were just they didn't have a chance, and all of
a sudden, now you're saying to yourself, wow, we've fallen behind,
Like we were the cream of the crop, we were
the best in the NFL, and now we're not even
better than the top teams in our conference. And I
felt like that's the feeling I got with the Lions
last night totally.
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Speaker 2 (14:46):
That would be too easy, just like playing Joe Burrow
last week for the Cincinnati Bengals, Because if you watched
last night, I a couple of times wondered on Quarterback
Sneaks how Joe Burrow was going to handle I want
I was going to do on the move. I wondered
I was going to do when he ran the football.
And there seemed to me no ill effects for Joe
Burrow in that win against the Ravens. Heck, he was
(15:09):
our tireract player of the day. Then why didn't he
play last week?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Are you saying this because I'm in the middle here
and I know that's not the answer you want. Are
you saying this though, because they won? Because I feel
like at the time this was the right decision. I
think the Bengals were like, I don't know if we
can beat the Patriots, why are we going to rush
you on a short week. Let's bring you back for
the divisional game? But then you see him and you're like,
(15:35):
it does seem like you could have maybe played, Mancy.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't mean to use your words against you. I'm
going to you just said that there's no great teams
in the NFL. I know, So why would you think
the Patriots are any different than the Ravens or any
other team, especially when you're at home? So if you
if that thinking doesn't fit for the Bengals to think
the Patriots were too tough of an opponent.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yes, you are correct, I understand that, but still, just
the Patriots have won nine in a row. Nice.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, yes, that means they're due for loss, And.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
You're right, but we knew that the Bengals defense can't
stop a nosebleed. So I think at the time, at
the time, it was the right choice. But maybe now
when they're looking at it, Oh, maybe you could have
won that game that you only lost by six.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The Bengals right now, their playoff chance, according to NFL
dot Com is two percent. Nice, they have a two percent.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
So you're saying there's a chance.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But leading into the Patriots game, if they would have lost,
they would have had a less than one percent chance
of making the playoffs, and if they would have won
that game, it would have been one percent. So they
lost the game, so it was less than one so
it went from less than one to two percent. They
weren't entirely eliminated. There's still beyond the Dolphins of the
wild card. However, the reason Joe Burrow came back was
to hopefully win the division, and you have to beat
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your division opponents. But if you don't have Joe Burrow
to beat the Patriots, which, by the way, in a
game that Joe Flacco threw a pick six, Joe Burrow
didn't turn the football over. So there's that is the
reason that you played Joe Burrow. If you get that win,
you're now five and seven with a win over the
Ravens in hand, You got the Bills coming up next week,
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you have the Ravens again, there's an opportunity to knock
them off. You have a win over Pittsburgh earlier this season.
So when you're talking about division and tiebreakers, it was there.
It was the whole reason to get Joe Burrow back.
And Joe Burrow then this week says well, I'm gonna
play regardless if we're in it and if I'm healthy, Like,
that's my mindset to play. And now after one night
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on a Thursday night where they go to Baltimore and win,
which maybe was the one that people thought that they
couldn't do, we're like, wow, look at this. And Joe
Burrow actually looked rusty last night. So now you're saying yourself,
what happens if he gets in rhythm. What happens is
the Bengals can win some more football games than actually
be in this which is the reason why he should
have played five days ago.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You know, Jamar Chase was like, Joe, you need to
play against the Ravens because you know how much I
like to go off against them.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Can't do it without.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You, Yeah, and without Tag and without te Higgins.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So I need you to play. Yeah. Again, I thought
it was the right move. But you're right.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
If you're going to be aggressive, you might as well
be aggressive. Why were you not aggressive from the beginning?
Why are you we aggressive now? Which and I hear you,
but you know, Joe Burrow has been injured a lot
throughout his career.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And so there's that It's that balance.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Do we we have to be aggressive? But knowing that
he has been hurt, how aggressive can you be? Do
you want to be?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's just a tough I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He has a turf had a turf toe injury, because
now it feels like it's in the rear view mirror.
That took him eight weeks to recover from to be
able to nine weeks when he was activated and then
ultimately playing. He was injured in Week two, so we'll
give it ten eleven weeks to recover from. I'm just saying,
if Joe Burrow would have reaggravated the injury. He's not
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going to play again this season, which then the Bengals like,
all right, our seasons kind of down the river. I
know you're paying them fifty five million dollars, but it's
also an injury. To my understanding, that wouldn't be something
considering he was able to come back from it a
month earlier than expected, that he'd be able to take
the offseason and be able to recover and be back
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for twenty twenty six. I'm not saying that they're risking
Joe Burrow's feature by playing him last Sunday. But Joe
Burrow wasn't fifty percent last Sunday. Joe Burrow was probably
ninety five percent last Sunday. And so now he goes
and place Thursday night and doesn't look like there are
any ill effects whatsoever in a game where you didn't have,
by the way Jamar Chase because of the suspension that
he played, if the Bengals would have beaten New England,
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and if there wouldn't have been a pick six by
Joe Flacco in that game, the plan for Cincinnati all along,
or their hopes all along, would be right at the
footstep they'd be a game back right now of the
division lead, and then the thick of it with a
schedule that includes the Dolphins, Cardinals and ends with the
Rounds after that Bill's Ravens game. Those are winnable football games.
(20:03):
And so I just don't know why in a span
of five days, Joe Burrow looked like he had no
ill effects Thursday night, but wasn't good enough to play
in week twelve.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity for the Bengals,
and it's just it's just tough.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Why didn't Maybe he even should have played a little
bit against New England, maybe like not as a starter,
have yeah, have Flacco out there, but just to get
in a rhythm, because you're right, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
He wasn't bad, but he wasn't his normal self.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And you can see it's your first came back understandably,
so so yeah, why did you play a little bit?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Damn it?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Dan, You're right, they could have They could have this. This,
this would have made the AFC way more interesting. But
just last night he did not look like there were
any yeah, ill effects to one and he had been
practicing for the previous two weeks, and I understand that
this is this is kind of gravy because he thought
it was going to be mid December. But if he was,
this club sent a short week. How many guys do
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How many times do guys miss a game on Sunday
and then are immediately ruled out so they can have
that extra rest the week after. That would have been
the play for me, Like I actually would have understood
it more Manzi if they didn't play Joe Burrow last night,
then I would say, like, Okay, now, I see why
you didn't playim in week twelve. You wanted that extra rest.
Maybe they don't beat the Ravens last night with Joe Flacco,
but that makes more sense to me seeing how good
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he was last night. Now doesn't add up on why
he didn't play last Sunday, which really could have had
the Bengals in this playoff picture.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, oh, it could have been a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
They missed opportunityunity for sure. Thanks for listening to The
Doug Gotleep Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
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Speaker 2 (21:50):
Happy Friday for you, Welcome in. It is a Black
Friday here on Fox Sports Radio. For the next three hours,
Mansos and I have got you covered, including the football
action in the program game and in the college game.
People forget Monci. The last year, Georgia Tech had Georgia
on the ropes. I mean it was Georgia was out
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of it, come back, got a huge win last year,
able to make the playoffs. Now they lost a notre
name in the quarterfinals, but Georgia Tech had them on
the ropes. They're playing again right now and Georgia Tech
just forced to turnover, so they'll have the football in
Bulldog's territory coming up here in just a little bit.
That in addition to the Bears Eagles game that we are.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Watching, you're more in tune with all the things going
on in college football.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Specifically the playoff picture.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Georgia Tech, if they happen to pull this off, do
they get into the playoff picture.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, it was going to be difficult because of the
ACC Championship game, right now that if this is a
non conference game, they have two conference losses, they have
three teams ahead of them, three schools ahead of them.
With one loss, they would need a lot of help
to get in, and a win here probably doesn't move
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them up in the rankings high enough where they need
to be, but it could maybe make people pay attention.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
More and if others lose, maybe yes, it can help.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I think it's kind of a long shot. You know,
if we were have talked a couple of weeks ago
before they lost to Pitt like they did, then there's
a whole different conversation about Georgia Tech. But I think
it's more about the Virginia, excuse me, the Georgia aspect
of this. Where Georgia you've got the SEC championship game
(23:39):
on the horizon. Ole Miss wins today, there's a lot
at stake first round by and the whole deal. And
if you don't win today, now there's going to be
a lot of confluence of events that the committee is
going to have to sortow fun we shall see. I'm
trying to do it in the most succinct way possible
because it's easier. Like when Auburn and Alabama play. It's
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a little bit because it's a conference game and it
sorts itself out. However, in a non conference situation where
all of George's SEC games are are in the barn,
and it just makes it a little bit more tricky.
So anyway, she is Manti Belanios. I'm Dan Byer speaking
of the college game. Before we get to the Dallas Cowboys.
Isaac made mention that Lan Kiffin spoke after their Egg
(24:21):
Bowl win against Mississippi State with ABC. This is what
the old miss coach had to say after the contest today.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Man, the soo liar that is that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sounds like someone who's one step out the door.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Absolutely, you're gonna make this important.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Decision in a matter of hours. You're gonna go home
and think about it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
That's yeah, that's a lie. That that portion is a lie,
the the facade of thinking that you have not thought
about the job and your whole sole focus has been
on the Egg Bowl when you your family is toured
Gainesville and Baton Rouge, when all of that has happened.
When the statement was released that there will be an
(25:06):
announcement on Saturday, You're not making a twenty four hour window.
No one believes that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I mean, I'm glad your team won, but this whole
thing has been handled. I know that the calendar it
forces a hand like this, but it's been handled.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Not well, and I don't know how to fix it.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
But I would. I would be so annoyed if I
was a rebel playing for this guy, you.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Would be annoyed.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I would be annoyed, really.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Like as so a football player, you would be annoyed
with my.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Coach entertaining this idea when we're having such a successful
season that you want to leave.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I understand that, but I don't. I I get that
portion of it. I didn't believe Lin Kiffin when he
said earlier in the week that guys players are different,
players are kids different now, But I think that I
think that the players. I think that you have to
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have an understanding of who you are and where you
are and what is happening now. Ole miss can say
right now, we're better than LSU. We're better than LSU. Look,
we won more games. We're a better team. Like we are,
we are better than LSU. Is it a better program
than LSU? Is it a better job than LSU? Those
(26:28):
are the decisions that lank Kiffin is making like this
twenty twenty five version of ole Miss is no doubt
better than LSU. But is Lane Kiffen going to have
another year like this for ole Miss? Is this the
start of something big? I don't know if it is,
and I think that he doesn't know if it is,
and which is the reason why he's entertained these other spots.
If you thought that ole Miss was a sleeping giant
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that was about to become in Alabama, Georgia or LSU
or even what Florida was, then you're not entertaining these calls.
And I don't think that Lane Kiffen leaves that that
is the case. But if I'm a player right now, yeah,
like I, it may stink, but you kind of have
to understand where he's he's coming from. I wish he
(27:11):
would stay. I do, but it's I I in Monty.
You caught me in a spot where I had rose
colored glasses on a week ago because I thought that
there would be a way for Lane Kiffin to take
another job and coach ole Miss through the playoffs, and
it's that's not feasible. But it's not feasible. I didn't
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think because of the players. The reason that I thought
that was a good idea was because of the players.
So that's why, like I'm caught in this spot is
I just don't think that the thousands and thousands of
Ole Miss fans that would be traveling and the boosters
there would like it that Lane Kiffin was about to leave.
I don't think that administrators would like that he would
still be coaching Ole Miss when he's about to be
(27:53):
the next head coach at LSU. I don't think LSU
would like it now as I thought about it, But
I didn't think it was about the players, so that
that's the whole reason that I thought that. But I
think that the reason now and why you caught me
is I still think that the players may understand. And
it's not that the players also have the option to leave,
because not every player does. But I just think that
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they're more rational in what this than someone who bleeds
Ole Miss, Rebel, blue and red.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
And maybe you're right, and you know, maybe he has
been more upfront with his players than we know of,
and he has been fully transparent, and so maybe they're
not feeling like this. But the picture from the outside
looking in, it just seems like you're messing with my emotions.
If I am a student at ole miss or a player,
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you're messing with my emotions at this point. Maybe he
has been transparent with them, right, and this is just
for us on the outside looking in to see it
this way, But I don't all of this. It just
is not How do you go into the end of
the season when you're having such a historic season and
want to play to your fullest and be you know, vibes,
big on vibes and have the right vibes with your
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team when you're one foot out the door, and that's
what it feels like. You're one foot out the door
and it looks like you're going to LSU because Florida already, right,
the reports are that Florida has kind of maybe moved on,
moved on because they felt like there's been not a
lot of clear communication on his end. So it's LSU
is where he's going, which again we talked about this
Dan earlier. I was like, why would you go and
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want to kind of rewrite the history that is LSU,
because that's the only way you're going to make a
name for yourself. Are you going to be better than
the coaches that have been at LSU, because there's been
some pretty big names.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yes, Nick Saban, Yeah, that's a pretty big name, big one. However,
Nick Saban again left LSU for the NFL and then
goes to Alabama, and now we really kind of forget
that he was I don't we don't forget he was
LS He's coach, but he's known as.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Alabama's absolutely, but he's also Nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Les Miles won a national championship at LSU. Ed Or
Jaran won a national championship at LSU. Neither of them
have jobs right now, And I think what Lane Kiffin's
as is, well, I may not be like Nick Saban,
who I coached under, but I know ed Orgeron. I'm
familiar with him from the USC days. And I think
lank kiffn probably finds himself in the middle of Nick
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Saban and the less Miles than ed Orgeron. And you
know what that is. That's multi that's a national championship team.
Maybe not multi national championships. But I think his point
is is if I get the players in the funding
and the salary that I would desire, and I don't
know if it's totally about money, but that would be
the place to go where you can consistently win. And
if this is the greatest season in ole Miss history. Manzi,
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when he still had players transferring out of the transfer
portal recently over the last couple of years and going
to other top elite programs, I think that tells you
that it's probably not sustainable for ole Miss. And that's where,
like I always just come back to the fact that
I think ole Miss has to remember that they're ole
Miss and that they're not going to be LSU Florida.
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It's crazy because Florida has been a tough time, but
Alabama and Georgia and those in that breath here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show, whenever you heard Doug talk about
programs and programs of money and who's backing the school
that he always mentions is Texas A and M. Look
at Texas A and M right now. I mean, they're
on the verge of being in the SEC Championship game,
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so much at stake for them. Now you've added another
school to the mix that is now competing at a
high level. Either throw in Texas and Oklahoma makes it
even more difficult for ole Miss. To compete, So I
think link Kiffin understands the big picture all of this.
My heart really would like him to stay at Ole Miss,
but I think the players understand it. It just feels
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like there's a bit of a game going on right now.
I don't know how you avoid the game. I think
that the statement last week didn't help the game that
they are playing. And I'm using in an air Coote
quotes almost like a game that you would play in
a relationship. But to sit there and say you're going
to have an announcement on Saturday and play a game
on Friday, and then use the next twenty four hours
to pray as you were praying for or preparing for
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this game just isn't realistic to me. We know he's
been thinking about this job for weeks and weeks and weeks,
and those comments there kind of tell us what's going
to happen. It would be the upset of the century.
If he stays in Oxford, it would.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Be the upset of the centric. Except for everybody at
Ole Miss.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know they would love it, but I think that
they think he's gone as well.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah it does seem that way, absolutely, But so you think,
like this is as good as it's going to get
for ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, and so he knows that, yes, and that's why
he's one foot out the door.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yes, that's exactly. That's exactly it. Especially in the arms
race of what college football is now, it's actually worse.
And it's why when people have talked over the last
couple of years of why doesn't college football just go
to like an NFL model and I have thirty or
forty teams, Like there's you know, the NFL is based
on parody. But even if you have thirty or forty teams,
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they're going to be have nots and haves. In college football.
There always have been in talking to and hearing people
talk about twenty years ago, teams that would emerge. You
would always trade your roster for what say Ohio State had,
for what back then USC had, for what LSU. If
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you're ninety five percent of college football, you are trading
your entire roster for what those schools have. And it's
just difficult for ole Miss to do this year in
and year out, and for Lane Kiffin to do it.
I think that he understands that that if he wants
to do what he wants to do and do it
at the highest level. It's probably not going to happen
at in Oxford even with this magical season.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
But with the ever changing landscape that is college football,
I feel like there's just gonna be constant revolving doors
everywhere with coaching, with players in the whole thing. Right,
So like this building of a program, you're gonna go
to LSU.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And the pressure.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I don't know how how short or long his leash
is going to because LSU is expecting greatness here, great point.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Here with ole Miss, You're you're great, You're loved, You're the.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Heros isn't always greener?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, And so I am having a hard I'm having
a hard time. But even even if it's I mean
that this is as good as is going to get.
But why is that? Why does it have to be bad?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Because if if the landscape is what Lane Kiffin and
people believe, there's a chance that ole Miss could fall
on hard times in Lane Kiffen could be out of
a job in three years.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That means the same situation at LSU.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and get paid significantly more or have more opportunity
to bring in players. So that doesn't happen with more money.
The drawback to LSU that I actually think is how
crazy things have gone over the last couple of months
with Brian Kelly firing the ad, with the governor getting involved.
Now that that's that would be the crazy part of
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the relationship where I'm like, all right, I'm not really
necessarily keen on all these cooks in the kitchen. Yeah,
but we talked with Chris Gordy yesterday who hosts on
Lockdown SEC and Chris a part of our affiliate in
Houston at Sports Talk seven ninety, and he said that
that isn't the case, that it's more stable than what's
been going on. And there's obviously been a change in
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the hierarchy, AD and head coach, but that would be
the worry to me if all of the politicians are
in it. And I don't know the landscape of the
the of what it looks like in Mississippi, but everybody's
all in on LSU football and that is it. It's
just at a at another level. And I think that
Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin understands that and we wouldn't have
(35:41):
would we would understand more if Ole miss was eight
and four, not with a one loss team on the
verge of maybe doing some damage in the College Football Playoff.
But if they were eight and four, we would all
understand this and it would be a lot easier to understand. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I think that's a good point. That it's just seeing
the schedule and seeing what they're doing. You're like really,
and like I feel like, again, he wasn't NFL.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You've done it, You've done it right.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You went beyond and you did the pros and here
you're now back in college football.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And sometimes the simplicity is better than the complicated world
at LSU or the governor. The governor is going to
get involved with you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I agree, Like I would prefer leave me alone over here.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think that it's not always greener. I think everybody
has probably learned that lesson at some point, But Lane
Kiffin wants I think that opportunity and considering where his
road has been. When you go and you're at Tennessee
and you leave after a year to take your dream
job at USC, that's probably something else that kind of
(36:48):
burns at him that it didn't work out at USC.
So is this all that I'm going to do? So? Yeah,
I coached in the pros, but it didn't work out
in the pros. Maybe that's what would be next after LSU.
If it works at LSU.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Who knows, back to the pros, who knows.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I mean that would probably be the next step.
I don't know where else you would go in college
football to if you were to succeed at LSU, to
have that success. But there's probably something that he wants
to do that he hasn't accomplished, and I think that
that's what would allow him to do that, is try
to I don't know, it's not righting the wrong of
the USC, but I think he has another crack at
(37:22):
what he didn't accomplish in LA. She's Moncey Milanio. So
I'm dan Byer. But again, decision tomorrow. A lot of
praying tonight for Lane Kiffin and then we'll find out
whether he stays or goes. Yeah, he's gone. He gone.
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