December 5, 2025 • 34 mins
Doug talks about his frustrating loss Thursday night as head coach of the Green Bay Phoenix and addresses the chair throwing incident that was picked up by influencers and news outlets. Doug welcomes FSR betting analyst Jared Smith onto the show to discuss the Penn State coaching hire and to talk about the weekend's college football wagering. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I GOT DIBBS!".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Gottlieb Show. It is Foxsports Radio. I do know the
Lions beat the Cowboys last night.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
I watched every snap because I was coaching a basketball game.
But I did watch the NFL network at some time
in the middle of the night, and I did get
the gen year old gist of things. I was busy
wallowing in it. And that's where we begin. This is
the Doug gottlib Show. We got a lot to get
to we got to next last night's Lions win, Cowboys loss,
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a huge weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
In college football. All right, you guys want to start there?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is that what we should do or or I guess
we talk about the fact that what's being called a
chair throwing was the lead story for ESPN dot com
for a minute and then ESPN's college basketball page. And look,
I started with the premise or the question I posed
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to the guys, which is they got it had to
be a slow news day, right, slow news day. But
I was kind of talked into and I actually believe
that that's not what it's about. For the record, my
basketball team had a oh what was it, eleven point
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lead with two thirty eight to go at home in
the conference opener against defending conference champion and conference tournament
champion Robert Morse.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Uh, and we lost. We lost. We were up seven
with a minute and thirty to go.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Lost, and you know, we missed a couple free throws,
but twenty five to thirty one. We turned the ball over,
but only one bad turnover. And it was one of
those series of things that all of a sudden go wrong,
right from uh, from two bad possessions to one bad
turnover on a miscommunication and then giving up three pointers
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one and one, and next thing you know, you turn around,
you leave their best shooter and then they beat us
on a play that we had struggled to guard and
switched to cover John. And I mean, it stings worse
than you can imagine. But in case you're wondering the
story of the day is that I through a chair. Now,
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I'd like to say that I played for John McLoud,
Notre Dame. He was a big chair tucker in her guy.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Notre Dame. We tuck in those chairs, Notre Dame. We
can't be immature, So you.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Know, I was just trying to put away the chair.
I was just putting away the chair that was left
sort of in the door that leads upstairs to our
locker room at the Cress Events Center. But obviously it's
frustration that you have to hold in. You can't tell
your players to keep their cool. When granted it was
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after the game, granted it was off the court, and
it was tucked in a kind of vomitorium area. Still
it's within sight of a camera to where they get
you doing it, and it becomes bigger than the actual story.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Which is, hey, we got a pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
We've been playing really good basketball, and we we frankly choked.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Frankly choked.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's really what happened, and everybody owns it, myself included,
and got to be better.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Dan Byer, go ahead, you have you look like you
have a question, right.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
No, I just I thought that it was interesting, and honestly, Doug,
because of the tip off time, it takes me about
an hour or so to get home, so I didn't
see what was going on. But I was checking in
on the game and saw that you guys were up,
was following it along on the box score, and then
put it away when I thought the game was in hand,
and then I came back and saw that there were
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four seconds left and it was eighty to seventy eight,
And so I was shocked in just how it happened.
And then I felt bad for you. And then about
an hour later than everything ended up going crazy on
social media.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So, Jase, do you think it's just that because it's me,
that's the reason that people seem to care.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah. Yeah, We've talked about this before. Right. One of
your gifts is that you have the ability to really
piss off, and we learned last season that you have
ticked off a lot of people for whatever reason, and
they're just waiting for you to do something bad. And
I think last and obviously that includes somebody on the
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editorial staff at ESPN. We remember last December when they
completely misrepresented a farcical post about you, and they ran
with it as it was news. I think it's the
same editor who made this a the front story on
ESPN dot com and now it's still up as a
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college basketball I just think that there's something about you
and your name that gets clicks where people like to,
I don't know, hate read stories about you. I don't
know what the proper term is, but I don't think
it had anything to do with it being a slow
college basketball night. I just think people have eyes on
you for for better or worse, and when you do
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anything that could be constructed as negative, there they're gonna
they're gonna put more focus on it than they would
any other coach.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But probably pretty accurate, probably very accurate.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And it's okay, you know, it's like the that is
our what is it our fifth consecutive close game? Right
Minnesota overtime Yale was two to twenty nine seconds ago.
Then we won two close ones UMass and Iona, and
then we well, I have Haskell was a blowout. It's
a non D one, but then this one in our
D one games, like they've all been been close, and.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We gotta be better, we gotta be better. But yeah,
I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm sure there's someone there that has an excuse the
expression a hard run for me, but I you know
what what I believe is like, whoever is there now
wasn't there when I was there because I was offered
a five year contract when I left, and you know,
they get really protective of their guys. I guess, And
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maybe it's an Adam Shepard thing, but I do think
that it's classic clickbait because even the idea that I
threw a chair, well, all right, well when was the stool?
And secondly, wasn't during the game. There's nobody round. I
don't know it was.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It was not Bobby Knight like people tried to make
it seem like that, like what it was hidden behind
a bleacher, which I am I'll speak for you, but
I'm almost one hundred percent sure, one hundred percent sure
that you had no idea that you were even on camera.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, I mean again, you shouldn't do anything, You shouldn't
react anyway. Right, But again it's like the let's not
act like I was throwing a fit even on the sideline,
Like I shook hands with Andy tool. His team made shots,
we did not. They got play made plays we did not.
They stole one.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Great. You know, I'm sure next time round they'll be
way better. Hopefully will be better.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
But shook hands and was walking off and was just
so furious and some of it, if we're if I'm
just being honest, it's not all It's not like directed
at the players. It's the I want to win. I
want to win. I want to prepare my team to win.
I want to put them in and I don't think
I did the best job. It's not just them, it's us.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
We have end of game sets and end of game plays,
and we had a little bit of wonky lineup. So
I tried to I tried to run something that we
had we've been working on or whatever. Like yeah, but
you know, I take that on myself. You know, late
in the game, Dan Byer, we were up two points.
They had the ball, and I considered fouling their leading scorer,
who's only a forty percent free throw shooter. I didn't
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they drive in, we have somebody help, who's not supposed
to help.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
They kick it out, hit a three.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
We're down one, and I'm I'm just so mad at
myself because have we fouled. The book tells you to
foul that guy that the likelihood of a forty percent
free throw shooter making two consecutive shots in a one on.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
One is slim to none.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And he's one of their best rebounders, so we would
have a great shot at rebounding the free throws on
like onlike previous years or whatever. But you do bring
losing into play. But I'm mad at myself for timeouts, substitutions,
adjustments or whatever. But again, you have to keep that in.
But again they like, really, this is this is what
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we've come to.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I was more surprised that you swore in your postgame
presser than actually throwing a chair.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well what and and what's interesting about that one? And
again I'm not blaming I think the Fox guy put
it out there was we were kind of done, and
then I I kind of looked at the statuet and
then I just kind of it was a ramble on
sentence right before I left, and I was like, ah,
then they clipped me.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I actually thought that you guys started an in the
bonus press conference where you don't care about your language,
that it's after the press conference. Yes, that's what I think.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Here's the end the own express conference.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Go ahead, unbelievably frustrating, Like unbelievably frustrating. You do everything,
you prepare them, you get them right there, they have
the game, and they just they gotta, they gotta, they
gotta bring it home.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And we just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know, we get to line thirty one times is great.
We shot twenty five to thirty one, which is which
is excellent. But we got to make the wins account.
So I mean, we had a good basketball team. But
can I we just gave that way.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean, sorry, that's how I That's how I speak
in real life, you know, I mean, I don't know. Oh,
I'm gonna tell you this, Okay, So here's the the
question that I know the answer to. But I'm wondering
if you guys are gonna ask, is balance the wins
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versus the losses? Like which is a stronger feeling. And
I'm just telling you like the wins.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It it's it's cliche, but it's cliche because it's true.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The wins are a relief. There's just a relief. The
losses are the worst because you want to go. It's
you want to go like, no, I knew the answer.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's like a test you'd study for and then all
of a sudden at the end you screw up the
last couple questions.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They're like, ah, I know that answer. Can I take
the test again?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
They're like, no, we don't. There's no makeup work here.
It's not how it works.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You're also, Doug talking to two guys right now, and
Jason and myself who will have their days ruined by
an elimination or a loss in fantasy football. And by
the way, there are thousands, if not millions, of people
like Jason and myself who will feel that way about
their picks or their teams, where it will ruin their
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night or will ruin their day where they maybe maybe
not throw a chair, but want to throw a chair.
So that's the part that I find kind of ridiculous
of all of this is everybody hates the freaking lose,
and when you're doing it on that scale, that on
that platform, in what was a winnable game. Yeah, like
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it's it's understandable, delicious than than what it I think
actually was.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
No question, no question. But you know, here, here's one again.
You learned something.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Every day we were up to with thirty five seconds
to go, or actually thirty nine seconds to go, we
throw the ball in bounds, which we weren't supposed to.
We're supposed to bleed clock, okay, but we don't. So
we throw the ball in bounds and my point guard,
who played great but he was cramping, falls down on
a cramp and luckily dribble the ball off somebody else's
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foot and they just pick it up out of bounds.
Otherwise it would have been a tie game right there. Anyway,
the official comes over and then we have to take
him off the court, and the official says it's an
injury time out.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Okay, so injury time out.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, I hear time out, and I think that the
rule is on a timeout, the ten second violation resets,
but it was an injury timeout, so it didn't reset.
So when we throw the ball in, there's twenty six
seconds on the shot clock. We got a ten second
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violation at twenty seconds, but it was only six seconds
to get across mid court. And again I'm upset because
that's on me. I'm the head coach. You know, my
bench we didn't know. But I asked the official, I said,
is that a timeout? He said it's yes, it is
an he said it's an injury timeout. And I just
be honest with you, I didn't know the distinction between
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the two. I heard time out. I thought it meant
it reset, and it didn't. So again, I'm not just
frustrated other people. I'm pressuly myself too, And these are
things that you only learned once, you know, I hope,
But it did. Giving up fourteen offensive rebounds felt like
last year year, even though the personnel is different. But again,
I didn't play some of our new personnel because I
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just didn't think they were as engaged or as connected
as we want them to be.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Like, I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It the right way, and I felt like I was,
for the most part rewarded by it. And then the
gods of basketball and our team collectively again coaching staff included,
we choked game.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We could have should have won. We did not you
have the ball.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I'm even up seven with a minute and ten to go,
like usually win the game, especially when we're a good
free throw shooting team and free throws.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Though we missed a couple, you know, we were down one.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We drove in there with like seven eight seconds, so
whatever we missed it or twelve fourteen second excuse me,
we very just now and who had twenty missed one
of street things?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
He missed it badly missed it out. But again that's
how you lose games.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So oh, anyway, the answer your question is, and you
know this from fantasy football, winning versus losing. Winning is
a relief losing his misery and it lasts way way longer.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, and it sounds so it sounds so trivial, but
it's just just like fantasy football is compared to to
what this is, to what you're doing. But I just
feel like we all have this, those same emotions where
we would throw a chair if it wasn't hours and
we had to go buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Truly, cha, we checked on the chair. I've gotten treatment today,
a little little bruising, but it's good. It's it's fine
that the chair.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No chairs were actually damaged or injured during the postgame
theatrics by yours truly. So I again, I don't ever
want to make my bosses look bad or my program
look bad. I should I got to contain my frustration,
and I you know, it wasn't there's nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I thought there was nobody around or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was just mad and I acted like a petulant child,
which I cannot.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
Do Dude Do to Do? Sam? Sam?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Matt Campbell leaving Iowa State. It's like the greatest news
ever for Iowah Hawk fans.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I mean, he has won three the last four, but
he started zero to six against Iowa, so it's it.
He was starting to get the hang of it at
beating Iowa. But he's a Listen, let's ask let's let's
bring jaredy No.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
No, I'm asking you. I'm gonna ask Jared. Yeah, I
got that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Jeered Visus Penn State guy, you're an Iowa guy. I'm
a big twelve guy.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Can I can tell you?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
He's awesome.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Matt Campbell has brought in more talent, has said more.
He's set more bench like. He's the first time they've
ever won more than nine games than one eleven games
last year.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He's brought on a lot of talent. He's a sustained winner.
He's done more with lessons then mini could.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Jared Smith joins us. He's our Fox Sports Radio Bettered analyst.
He co hosts Fox Sports Radios count Down to Kickoff
with Rich Ornberger and Brian no It airs each Saturday
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NY of our Fox Sports Radio affiliates or the iHeartRadio
app presented by Bett MGM. Jared, you are at Penn State, alum.
What's your reaction to Matt Campbell looking like he's the guy?
Speaker 8 (17:20):
I think it's fantastic news, especially when you consider the
train was completely off the tracks over the last couple
of weeks. I'm and to be fair. When I woke
up this morning and I heard that leaked audio from
the players meeting with Pat Kraft, I thought, man, what
does any coach want to get into this situation for
because that first of all, it's highly legal. Pennsylvania is
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a is a full consent state, Like you can't record
private conversations and then leake them to the media, so
like there's a liability there, period. But also just the
drama of this entire situation coming to a head. Finally, today,
it seems like it does feel like Pat Craft kind
of failed up in this scenario. Right, Like the the
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initial vibe I god from the sources I talked to,
it was drink Witz, it was Elko, it was the Bore,
it was Freeman, it was Brent Key, and those were
all kind of pie in the sky, like I heard.
They got kind of close with drink Wuitz, right, I
told you a couple of weeks ago that was the
name that I thought that they zeroed in on. Then
it was Kalonie Sataki out of nowhere. I don't know
where that transpired from, but that felt like a really
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square peg round hole, And I thought that was a
lot of hubris on Pat Kraft's part to think that
he could basically go to war with the you know,
the the LDS Church to get Sataki to leave provo.
That didn't work. Out, But this option does feel like
kind of a good fit. Like Campbell's a culture guy,
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He's a great recruiter. I think he's a really good coach.
He's done an unbelievable job in AIMES. He stayed in
AIMES for ten years. I mean that you should deserve
a you know, the Presidential Medal of Freedom for that.
And now he brings his talents to where I think
a place will appreciate his vibe. So I think it's
a great situation. I didn't think it was gonna end
this way after the last couple of weeks of you know, mess,
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but it does feel like it does. It does seem
like a happy.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Ending Stut Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Here on Fox Sports, Trader Jared Smith is our Fox
Sports radio betting analysts. Let's get to the game Saturday,
shall we. Yeah, there's there's a couple of decent college
football game Saturday. Let's start with BYU Texas Tech. You
talked about Colooney Sataki. He remains the BYU. They're eleven
and one. They get a rematch against Texas Tech beat
him and beat him fairly handily. The Red Raiders are
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twelve and a half point favorite and the totals forty
nine and a half.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, so Texas Tech won the first matchup pretty handily.
They covered as a thirteen point home favorite. Now the
line's thirteen again. But it's on a neutral and I
know it's in Arlington and Texas tex and loved it, right,
But I mean BYU's fans travel well. I don't think
it's gonna be a you know, completely washed Texas Tech crowd.
I think BYU will have a good portion of the crowd.
This will feel like a bowl game. Texas Techs offensive line, frankly,
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both lines. Offensive line, defensive line is the strength of
the team. Texas Tech loves to run a lot of
gap and counter concepts with their run game. They do
a really good job with their tight ends. Terrence Carter,
John Carlos Miller. Keep an eye on those guys. They'll
pull them all over the field. They'll use them in
the blocking game. They'll throw to them as well. When
they ran that gap scheme in the first game, Dog
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twenty carries a buck thirty five like they were really
dominant on the ground finding those holes in the BYU defense.
BYU has struggle to defend the gap scheme runs this year.
On the other side, I think that's where BYU might
have a little bit more of an edge in this game. Right,
that was bear Bachmeyer's first real test, Like you're facing
basically a pro level defensive line. Texas Techs D line
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is they've got four guys up front. All four starters
are all top ten Pro Football Focus grade players. David
Bailey leads the nation and it was seventy pressures. You
got Romelo Height, AJ Holmes and Lee Hunter in the middle.
Those guys are very formidable. The one thing I believe
by You can do in this game, though, is trying
to loosen up the line of scrimmage with some deep shots.
They'll get Chase Roberts back from injury. Bar bach My right,
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this game has played about a month ago. Now he's
had a little bit more tenure. You hope that he's
grown up.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
You've got obviously the narrative of Sataki coming back. I
would imagine that, you know, the motivation will be high
for both teams to win.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But I think.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
BYU might have a little bit more of an edge,
and of course they're playing for their playoff lives, whereas
Texas Tech, I think is in no matter what. So
I thought that the spread was a little heavy. I
think thirteen's a little too much respect for Texas deck,
even though they've been fantastic this year. I think BYU
plus the points is the play.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Okay, let's get to the other big games of the weekend.
There's a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's Championship Championship Saturday, the SEC Championship Bama Georgia. Bama's
a dog, of course, it's in Atlanta. The Dogs are
two and a half point favorites. The totals forty eight
and a half.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah, I mean this is kind of the same line
as it was earlier in the ear a long time ago,
back in eight September. But Bama was on the road
in that game. So you want to say, all right,
now that we're pushing three and the games on a
neutral maybe Bama has a little bit of value. I
think both teams should be in no matter what. I mean,
unless this game is like Georgia fifty two to ten.
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Like I just, I don't see a world where you
can penalize Alabama for playing a thirteenth game against the
top five team. It's similar to what the committee did
last year with SMU. They played a close game in
the a SEC Championship game, they lost to Clemson, and
they still put SMU in the field over Alabama. Ironically enough,
so I am in the boat of both Alabama and
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Georgia deserve to be in the playoff based off of
their current resume, and we're not going to penalize for
playing that extra game. It should be a reward to
play in the conference champiship game, not a penalty. The
matchups I think are pretty unique. So both teams are
offensive line deficient right now. For Alabama, one of the
best players, frankly in the country that you probably don't
hear a ton about is their center Parker Breils. For
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this dude is a Sunday player. You don't see a
lot of centers pull a lot in college football anymore.
It's hard to do it. He is one of the best,
and he's a little bang up right now. I watch
that tape against Auburn last week. He can barely move,
so he's got kind of a bum leg. We'll see
how healthy he is in this game. Jan Miller is
going to be out as well. For Alabama. That is
a huge loss.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
We'll see.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
How about their young tight end Quavis. He's been a
great player as well. George is also missing a couple players,
so this is kind of a war of attrition, and
these games have had a tendency to get weird. George
has done a good job throwing it out of heavier
personnels this season. They use their two tight end sets
better than anyone else. They've got two fantastic tight ends
and I think they're going to continue to utilize that
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because if you can make Bama play on your terms
defensively right Caane Wollmack loves to run a lot of
zone scheme. They run a three three to five base defense.
That's three down line and three linebackers five defensive backs.
That means if you can force them to go a
little bit heavier by bringing an extra tight end on
the field, you can kind of dictate terms or seeing
the NFL do this a lot now, especially the Rams
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are having a great season throwing it out of twelve
and even thirteen personnel with three tight ends on the field.
I don't think Georgia will get that heavy, but I
do think Gunner Stockton's got a little bit of an
edge in this game. He's playing a little bit better
right now than Tyz Simpson, who's kind of been trending down.
I think Georgia is the better team, but these games
have a tendency to get wacky, Doug, So I think
the best bet is actually to wait for the game
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to start, see who takes the first lead, and then
live bet the other side at you know, hopefully north
of a touchdown. Because what do we see with this
rivalry over the last few years. One team gets a
big lead, Bama twenty eight to nothing. Last year, Georgia
comes back and takes the lead and Bamba wins it late.
So that's kind of the vibe I get with this one.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
On Saturday ACC Championship game, Duke Virginia Virginia ten and two.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They beat Duke early this year. They're a four point
favorite totals fifty seven, a half.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Disaster scenario for the ACC if Duke win's this game.
So you want to put your ten foil hat on
and say all the calls are gonna go Virginia's way.
I don't think that will happen, but I'm sure there
will be some people on social media talking about that
Virginia did win this game. Two weeks Ago as a
five point road dog. Now they're basically a five point
neutral favorite. So I do think the value is on duke.
(25:05):
But which duke team is gonna show up if they
play clean football and they don't turn it over and
they can run it with their freshman back Ny Sheppard,
I think they're very live in this game. But Men's
has been very turnover prone this year and Virginia. Listen,
I think when you can run it on Virginia, you
can have success. Go back and watch the NC State
game earlier in the year. Hollywood Smothers went absolutely berserk
on this team. Florida State ran it well. Of course,
(25:27):
you know Virginia won that game in two overtimes. UNC
ran it well on Virginia, So I think that's the
path for Duke. But on the other side, I think
this is where Virginia's got the edge Chandler Morris against
a very vulnerable duke secondary. The duke secondary was supposed
to be great this year. Terry Moore, one of the
best safeties in the country towards ACL in a bowl
game last January, hasn't played it all this year. They've
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got one decent corner on the outside Chandler Rivers. The
rest of it is very average, and what it's done,
it's prevented Manny Diaz, who likes to be very exotic
with his blitz packages. Well, when you're vulnerable in the secondary,
you can't really commit too much up front. So it's
kind of handcuffed Daz from coaching defense the way he
wants to coach.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And I loved what I've seen from Chandler Morris this year.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
The transfer from North Texas done a really good job
with this Virginia offense. I'd like the run game with
Jamari Taylor. Virginia should win this game, but the ACC
has been so wacky this year. Doug, I don't want
to get in front of a prediction here, but the
conspiracy theorists are gonna be all over the Duke train here.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Indiana Ohio State, but guys are a four point favorite
totals forty seven a half.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I love Ohio State here. I think I think we've
seen a really good year from Indiana. But I think,
you know, when it's men against boys, I think sometimes
it's just hard to be on the boys side. And
I think the one thing I've noticed from Indiana they
don't have a real burner on offense. They've got a
lot of good possession receivers. I love Sarat you know,
(26:49):
the big talent kind of reminds with Mike Evans, but
he's not a guy that's just gonna run right past you.
And what Ohio State doesn't do a lot of is
actually playing man coverage. They're kind of an average man
coverage team Patricia runs at around two twenty five percent
this year. But when they do run it, they're very effective.
And I think they're gonna run it more in this
game because I just don't see a lot of burn
potential from this Indiana offense. You got Ig Bonosen and
(27:10):
Matthews on the outside, very physical corners for Ohio State.
I think Caleb Down's best player on the field the
free safety strong safety. They'll bring him to the line
of scrimmage and the'll blitz him as well. I mean,
he is basically like the queen on the chess board
and on the other side. I think Ohio State's offense
has a real edge here. Indiana plays zone coverage at
the highest rate in college football. Ninety percent of their
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defensive snaps are out of zone. Well, guess who has
the highest Pro Football Focus grade against zone coverage this year.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's Julian Saying.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Now, to be fair, he has a high PFF grade
for pretty much every coverage that he faces. But when
you play zone against saying, he is able to basically
drop back and pick out which of his absurdly talented
receivers he wants to throw to. And to be fair,
Indiana did a really good job last year in this
game keeping Jeremiah Smith in check. Only three catches for
thirty four yards. But the problem is you had aguk
(28:00):
Uh and Tate go off. Well, now you've got a
junk and I said you've got the tight end too.
So I think Ohio State wins this game. I think
Julian Saying wins the Heisman, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That would make Dan Byer very happy.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Of course, Dan really cares about the national championship, not
the Heisman or who wins the Big Ten championship. But
still would would be would be happy, and we want
Dan happy.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's a big thing. Uh. Jared, you're the best man.
Look forward to hearing you tomorrow morning. Thanks much for
being our guest.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I appreciate it.
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The game today is.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
I Got DIBs all right?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Three categories that we will try to get DIBs on.
The first category most intriguing game of Week fourteen in
the NFL starting in three two one, bidding is open.
I got DIBs on Bengals Bills. I know it has
nothing to do with any division. It's the highest scoring
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game the Bengals are going to be without Trey Hendrickson.
T Higgins comes back, the over under, it is by
far the highest in Week fourteen fifty three and a half.
Give me Bengals Bills in that early window.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I got DIBs, Yes, come on, really, but damn, what
are you being nice and letting me keep it that
you're doing?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Hey, I figured it would be a fight between you
and Sam.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Bearsh Packers lambeau Field three twenty five local on Fox,
Little light snow in the area, twenty three degrees, Packers Big,
Packers Big.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Should be a dandy. I got DIBs on Titans, Browns.
I'm just kidding. I have DIBs on Colts and Jaguars.
Wait a minute, hold on, just Sam, Just Sam?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
That up?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Sam will No one's picking Bro.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That's gonna be like the second most covered game this week.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
It's like when listeners come up, it's Cam or should
do it? I forgot when listeners come up to me
on the street and they say, what do you guys
mean when you say Sam? You never explain it.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Never storyline you're never on.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I'm gonna give them on the street. It's the storyline.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
When I was hiking with my hot girlfriend, that's how
you need to start the sentence. Jase too, When I'm
hiking with my hot girlfriend and somebody also is scared
to walk up half Dome, then this happens. Or I
get out of breath to go up half Dome, this happens.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't know if Buyer's got this story, but I
don't want to Sam up his press, but there was
a story where the most googled athlete in the world
this year out of everybody, Shadu or Sander?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is that is that real?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yes, he is the most trending athlete of twenty twenty five,
and that's why I am going to tune into Titans
at Brown's. Yeah, it's the mel Kuiper Bowl. It's the
mel Kuiper Bowl one and two on his list.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
There's a lot of good storylines, but it doesn't matter
in the grand scheme. That's why it was a joke,
and that's why I'm going officially with Colts Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Next.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Moving on, it is hilarious that Sam's joke was Jason's answer.
He could have gone Dolphins Jets, but he went Titans
Browns because they have the worst two records. But there
is intrigue there, all right. Moving on to topic number two.
Non US soccer country. This happens to everybody.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They'll cheer for the US and the World Cup, but
they've got another team because of their heritage or where
they traveled to. So that's what I'm looking at here,
non soccer country, non US soccer country for the World Cup.
In three to one, I.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Got DIBs on Whales.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm Welsh.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
It's a tiny little country in the United Kingdom that
doesn't have as a robust of a soccer history as
maybe surrounding countries. They make a little run here and there.
Give me the Welsh. They have not yet qualified. I
don't know they even in the World Cup, but they
still have a chance. I think they're in the playoffs qualify. Yes,
the last time there's some playoff appearances.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, I thought they were What kind What kind of
country am I looking for here?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
What? Non US? So when the World Cup comes around
in the US is ultimately eliminated by the quarterfinals, there's
people usually say like, well, ches My great grandfather was
from you know, Poland, so I'm gonna cheer for Poland.
Yeah they two, Yeah, yes we're past that. But yeah,
so what country I got? It was on Germany. I'll
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just take Germany because German.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, gems, it's not German, it's copp.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
No, it's if it's not Scottish, it's crap. I know.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I'm gonna go course.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
To day twenty eight drinking German.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Bill McBride remember that movie Hot Shots, when that that
one scene where she's like, do you know German? He's like,
I know a little German and they pointed to like
a little person that was Germany.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Hey, I was gonna pick Switzerland, but it's just kind
of neutral about them.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Ah, Jason's pick and you just I away sammed it
up though with the joke.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
No, my pick is that one euro country where that
one guy overreacts when he gets injured and he acts
like he was shot on the field and then.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
That's game time. And then they used that weird like
a spray game time?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Where is it a game time?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
This is game time? On the Dug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Think about Who's Bekistan? That's what I was thinking about.
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Lions beat the Cowboys last night.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
I watched every snap because I was coaching a basketball game.
But I did watch the NFL network at some time
in the middle of the night, and I did get
the gen year old gist of things. I was busy
wallowing in it. And that's where we begin. This is
the Doug gottlib Show. We got a lot to get
to we got to next last night's Lions win, Cowboys loss,
(01:12):
a huge weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
In college football. All right, you guys want to start there?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is that what we should do or or I guess
we talk about the fact that what's being called a
chair throwing was the lead story for ESPN dot com
for a minute and then ESPN's college basketball page. And look,
I started with the premise or the question I posed
(01:39):
to the guys, which is they got it had to
be a slow news day, right, slow news day. But
I was kind of talked into and I actually believe
that that's not what it's about. For the record, my
basketball team had a oh what was it, eleven point
(02:01):
lead with two thirty eight to go at home in
the conference opener against defending conference champion and conference tournament
champion Robert Morse.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Uh, and we lost. We lost. We were up seven
with a minute and thirty to go.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Lost, and you know, we missed a couple free throws,
but twenty five to thirty one. We turned the ball over,
but only one bad turnover. And it was one of
those series of things that all of a sudden go wrong,
right from uh, from two bad possessions to one bad
turnover on a miscommunication and then giving up three pointers
(02:38):
one and one, and next thing you know, you turn around,
you leave their best shooter and then they beat us
on a play that we had struggled to guard and
switched to cover John. And I mean, it stings worse
than you can imagine. But in case you're wondering the
story of the day is that I through a chair. Now,
(03:01):
I'd like to say that I played for John McLoud,
Notre Dame. He was a big chair tucker in her guy.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Notre Dame. We tuck in those chairs, Notre Dame. We
can't be immature, So you.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Know, I was just trying to put away the chair.
I was just putting away the chair that was left
sort of in the door that leads upstairs to our
locker room at the Cress Events Center. But obviously it's
frustration that you have to hold in. You can't tell
your players to keep their cool. When granted it was
(03:36):
after the game, granted it was off the court, and
it was tucked in a kind of vomitorium area. Still
it's within sight of a camera to where they get
you doing it, and it becomes bigger than the actual story.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Which is, hey, we got a pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
We've been playing really good basketball, and we we frankly choked.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Frankly choked.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's really what happened, and everybody owns it, myself included,
and got to be better.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Dan Byer, go ahead, you have you look like you
have a question, right.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
No, I just I thought that it was interesting, and honestly, Doug,
because of the tip off time, it takes me about
an hour or so to get home, so I didn't
see what was going on. But I was checking in
on the game and saw that you guys were up,
was following it along on the box score, and then
put it away when I thought the game was in hand,
and then I came back and saw that there were
(04:27):
four seconds left and it was eighty to seventy eight,
And so I was shocked in just how it happened.
And then I felt bad for you. And then about
an hour later than everything ended up going crazy on
social media.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So, Jase, do you think it's just that because it's me,
that's the reason that people seem to care.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah. Yeah, We've talked about this before. Right. One of
your gifts is that you have the ability to really
piss off, and we learned last season that you have
ticked off a lot of people for whatever reason, and
they're just waiting for you to do something bad. And
I think last and obviously that includes somebody on the
(05:12):
editorial staff at ESPN. We remember last December when they
completely misrepresented a farcical post about you, and they ran
with it as it was news. I think it's the
same editor who made this a the front story on
ESPN dot com and now it's still up as a
(05:33):
college basketball I just think that there's something about you
and your name that gets clicks where people like to,
I don't know, hate read stories about you. I don't
know what the proper term is, but I don't think
it had anything to do with it being a slow
college basketball night. I just think people have eyes on
you for for better or worse, and when you do
(05:56):
anything that could be constructed as negative, there they're gonna
they're gonna put more focus on it than they would
any other coach.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But probably pretty accurate, probably very accurate.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And it's okay, you know, it's like the that is
our what is it our fifth consecutive close game? Right
Minnesota overtime Yale was two to twenty nine seconds ago.
Then we won two close ones UMass and Iona, and
then we well, I have Haskell was a blowout. It's
a non D one, but then this one in our
D one games, like they've all been been close, and.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We gotta be better, we gotta be better. But yeah,
I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm sure there's someone there that has an excuse the
expression a hard run for me, but I you know
what what I believe is like, whoever is there now
wasn't there when I was there because I was offered
a five year contract when I left, and you know,
they get really protective of their guys. I guess, And
(06:59):
maybe it's an Adam Shepard thing, but I do think
that it's classic clickbait because even the idea that I
threw a chair, well, all right, well when was the stool?
And secondly, wasn't during the game. There's nobody round. I
don't know it was.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It was not Bobby Knight like people tried to make
it seem like that, like what it was hidden behind
a bleacher, which I am I'll speak for you, but
I'm almost one hundred percent sure, one hundred percent sure
that you had no idea that you were even on camera.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, I mean again, you shouldn't do anything, You shouldn't
react anyway. Right, But again it's like the let's not
act like I was throwing a fit even on the sideline,
Like I shook hands with Andy tool. His team made shots,
we did not. They got play made plays we did not.
They stole one.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Great. You know, I'm sure next time round they'll be
way better. Hopefully will be better.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
But shook hands and was walking off and was just
so furious and some of it, if we're if I'm
just being honest, it's not all It's not like directed
at the players. It's the I want to win. I
want to win. I want to prepare my team to win.
I want to put them in and I don't think
I did the best job. It's not just them, it's us.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
We have end of game sets and end of game plays,
and we had a little bit of wonky lineup. So
I tried to I tried to run something that we
had we've been working on or whatever. Like yeah, but
you know, I take that on myself. You know, late
in the game, Dan Byer, we were up two points.
They had the ball, and I considered fouling their leading scorer,
who's only a forty percent free throw shooter. I didn't
(08:42):
they drive in, we have somebody help, who's not supposed
to help.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
They kick it out, hit a three.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
We're down one, and I'm I'm just so mad at
myself because have we fouled. The book tells you to
foul that guy that the likelihood of a forty percent
free throw shooter making two consecutive shots in a one on.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
One is slim to none.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And he's one of their best rebounders, so we would
have a great shot at rebounding the free throws on
like onlike previous years or whatever. But you do bring
losing into play. But I'm mad at myself for timeouts, substitutions,
adjustments or whatever. But again, you have to keep that in.
But again they like, really, this is this is what
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we've come to.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I was more surprised that you swore in your postgame
presser than actually throwing a chair.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well what and and what's interesting about that one? And
again I'm not blaming I think the Fox guy put
it out there was we were kind of done, and
then I I kind of looked at the statuet and
then I just kind of it was a ramble on
sentence right before I left, and I was like, ah,
then they clipped me.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I actually thought that you guys started an in the
bonus press conference where you don't care about your language,
that it's after the press conference. Yes, that's what I think.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Here's the end the own express conference.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Go ahead, unbelievably frustrating, Like unbelievably frustrating. You do everything,
you prepare them, you get them right there, they have
the game, and they just they gotta, they gotta, they
gotta bring it home.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And we just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know, we get to line thirty one times is great.
We shot twenty five to thirty one, which is which
is excellent. But we got to make the wins account.
So I mean, we had a good basketball team. But
can I we just gave that way.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean, sorry, that's how I That's how I speak
in real life, you know, I mean, I don't know. Oh,
I'm gonna tell you this, Okay, So here's the the
question that I know the answer to. But I'm wondering
if you guys are gonna ask, is balance the wins
(10:46):
versus the losses? Like which is a stronger feeling. And
I'm just telling you like the wins.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It it's it's cliche, but it's cliche because it's true.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The wins are a relief. There's just a relief. The
losses are the worst because you want to go. It's
you want to go like, no, I knew the answer.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's like a test you'd study for and then all
of a sudden at the end you screw up the
last couple questions.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They're like, ah, I know that answer. Can I take
the test again?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
They're like, no, we don't. There's no makeup work here.
It's not how it works.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You're also, Doug talking to two guys right now, and
Jason and myself who will have their days ruined by
an elimination or a loss in fantasy football. And by
the way, there are thousands, if not millions, of people
like Jason and myself who will feel that way about
their picks or their teams, where it will ruin their
(11:44):
night or will ruin their day where they maybe maybe
not throw a chair, but want to throw a chair.
So that's the part that I find kind of ridiculous
of all of this is everybody hates the freaking lose,
and when you're doing it on that scale, that on
that platform, in what was a winnable game. Yeah, like
(12:06):
it's it's understandable, delicious than than what it I think
actually was.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
No question, no question. But you know, here, here's one again.
You learned something.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Every day we were up to with thirty five seconds
to go, or actually thirty nine seconds to go, we
throw the ball in bounds, which we weren't supposed to.
We're supposed to bleed clock, okay, but we don't. So
we throw the ball in bounds and my point guard,
who played great but he was cramping, falls down on
a cramp and luckily dribble the ball off somebody else's
(12:43):
foot and they just pick it up out of bounds.
Otherwise it would have been a tie game right there. Anyway,
the official comes over and then we have to take
him off the court, and the official says it's an
injury time out.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Okay, so injury time out.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, I hear time out, and I think that the
rule is on a timeout, the ten second violation resets,
but it was an injury timeout, so it didn't reset.
So when we throw the ball in, there's twenty six
seconds on the shot clock. We got a ten second
(13:23):
violation at twenty seconds, but it was only six seconds
to get across mid court. And again I'm upset because
that's on me. I'm the head coach. You know, my
bench we didn't know. But I asked the official, I said,
is that a timeout? He said it's yes, it is
an he said it's an injury timeout. And I just
be honest with you, I didn't know the distinction between
(13:43):
the two. I heard time out. I thought it meant
it reset, and it didn't. So again, I'm not just
frustrated other people. I'm pressuly myself too, And these are
things that you only learned once, you know, I hope,
But it did. Giving up fourteen offensive rebounds felt like
last year year, even though the personnel is different. But again,
I didn't play some of our new personnel because I
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just didn't think they were as engaged or as connected
as we want them to be.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Like, I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It the right way, and I felt like I was,
for the most part rewarded by it. And then the
gods of basketball and our team collectively again coaching staff included,
we choked game.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We could have should have won. We did not you
have the ball.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I'm even up seven with a minute and ten to go,
like usually win the game, especially when we're a good
free throw shooting team and free throws.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Though we missed a couple, you know, we were down one.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We drove in there with like seven eight seconds, so
whatever we missed it or twelve fourteen second excuse me,
we very just now and who had twenty missed one
of street things?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
He missed it badly missed it out. But again that's
how you lose games.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So oh, anyway, the answer your question is, and you
know this from fantasy football, winning versus losing. Winning is
a relief losing his misery and it lasts way way longer.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, and it sounds so it sounds so trivial, but
it's just just like fantasy football is compared to to
what this is, to what you're doing. But I just
feel like we all have this, those same emotions where
we would throw a chair if it wasn't hours and
we had to go buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Truly, cha, we checked on the chair. I've gotten treatment today,
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I thought there was nobody around or whatever.
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
Do Dude Do to Do? Sam? Sam?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Matt Campbell leaving Iowa State. It's like the greatest news
ever for Iowah Hawk fans.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I mean, he has won three the last four, but
he started zero to six against Iowa, so it's it.
He was starting to get the hang of it at
beating Iowa. But he's a Listen, let's ask let's let's
bring jaredy No.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
No, I'm asking you. I'm gonna ask Jared. Yeah, I
got that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Jeered Visus Penn State guy, you're an Iowa guy. I'm
a big twelve guy.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Can I can tell you?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
He's awesome.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Matt Campbell has brought in more talent, has said more.
He's set more bench like. He's the first time they've
ever won more than nine games than one eleven games
last year.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He's brought on a lot of talent. He's a sustained winner.
He's done more with lessons then mini could.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Jared Smith joins us. He's our Fox Sports Radio Bettered analyst.
He co hosts Fox Sports Radios count Down to Kickoff
with Rich Ornberger and Brian no It airs each Saturday
between nine am and New Eastern Time. Listen live on
NY of our Fox Sports Radio affiliates or the iHeartRadio
app presented by Bett MGM. Jared, you are at Penn State, alum.
What's your reaction to Matt Campbell looking like he's the guy?
Speaker 8 (17:20):
I think it's fantastic news, especially when you consider the
train was completely off the tracks over the last couple
of weeks. I'm and to be fair. When I woke
up this morning and I heard that leaked audio from
the players meeting with Pat Kraft, I thought, man, what
does any coach want to get into this situation for
because that first of all, it's highly legal. Pennsylvania is
(17:43):
a is a full consent state, Like you can't record
private conversations and then leake them to the media, so
like there's a liability there, period. But also just the
drama of this entire situation coming to a head. Finally, today,
it seems like it does feel like Pat Craft kind
of failed up in this scenario. Right, Like the the
(18:05):
initial vibe I god from the sources I talked to,
it was drink Witz, it was Elko, it was the Bore,
it was Freeman, it was Brent Key, and those were
all kind of pie in the sky, like I heard.
They got kind of close with drink Wuitz, right, I
told you a couple of weeks ago that was the
name that I thought that they zeroed in on. Then
it was Kalonie Sataki out of nowhere. I don't know
where that transpired from, but that felt like a really
(18:28):
square peg round hole, And I thought that was a
lot of hubris on Pat Kraft's part to think that
he could basically go to war with the you know,
the the LDS Church to get Sataki to leave provo.
That didn't work. Out, But this option does feel like
kind of a good fit. Like Campbell's a culture guy,
(18:48):
He's a great recruiter. I think he's a really good coach.
He's done an unbelievable job in AIMES. He stayed in
AIMES for ten years. I mean that you should deserve
a you know, the Presidential Medal of Freedom for that.
And now he brings his talents to where I think
a place will appreciate his vibe. So I think it's
a great situation. I didn't think it was gonna end
this way after the last couple of weeks of you know, mess,
(19:10):
but it does feel like it does. It does seem
like a happy.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Ending Stut Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Here on Fox Sports, Trader Jared Smith is our Fox
Sports radio betting analysts. Let's get to the game Saturday,
shall we. Yeah, there's there's a couple of decent college
football game Saturday. Let's start with BYU Texas Tech. You
talked about Colooney Sataki. He remains the BYU. They're eleven
and one. They get a rematch against Texas Tech beat
him and beat him fairly handily. The Red Raiders are
(19:36):
twelve and a half point favorite and the totals forty
nine and a half.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, so Texas Tech won the first matchup pretty handily.
They covered as a thirteen point home favorite. Now the
line's thirteen again. But it's on a neutral and I
know it's in Arlington and Texas tex and loved it, right,
But I mean BYU's fans travel well. I don't think
it's gonna be a you know, completely washed Texas Tech crowd.
I think BYU will have a good portion of the crowd.
This will feel like a bowl game. Texas Techs offensive line, frankly,
(20:01):
both lines. Offensive line, defensive line is the strength of
the team. Texas Tech loves to run a lot of
gap and counter concepts with their run game. They do
a really good job with their tight ends. Terrence Carter,
John Carlos Miller. Keep an eye on those guys. They'll
pull them all over the field. They'll use them in
the blocking game. They'll throw to them as well. When
they ran that gap scheme in the first game, Dog
(20:22):
twenty carries a buck thirty five like they were really
dominant on the ground finding those holes in the BYU defense.
BYU has struggle to defend the gap scheme runs this year.
On the other side, I think that's where BYU might
have a little bit more of an edge in this game. Right,
that was bear Bachmeyer's first real test, Like you're facing
basically a pro level defensive line. Texas Techs D line
(20:43):
is they've got four guys up front. All four starters
are all top ten Pro Football Focus grade players. David
Bailey leads the nation and it was seventy pressures. You
got Romelo Height, AJ Holmes and Lee Hunter in the middle.
Those guys are very formidable. The one thing I believe
by You can do in this game, though, is trying
to loosen up the line of scrimmage with some deep shots.
They'll get Chase Roberts back from injury. Bar bach My right,
(21:06):
this game has played about a month ago. Now he's
had a little bit more tenure. You hope that he's
grown up.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
You've got obviously the narrative of Sataki coming back. I
would imagine that, you know, the motivation will be high
for both teams to win.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But I think.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
BYU might have a little bit more of an edge,
and of course they're playing for their playoff lives, whereas
Texas Tech, I think is in no matter what. So
I thought that the spread was a little heavy. I
think thirteen's a little too much respect for Texas deck,
even though they've been fantastic this year. I think BYU
plus the points is the play.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Okay, let's get to the other big games of the weekend.
There's a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's Championship Championship Saturday, the SEC Championship Bama Georgia. Bama's
a dog, of course, it's in Atlanta. The Dogs are
two and a half point favorites. The totals forty eight
and a half.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah, I mean this is kind of the same line
as it was earlier in the ear a long time ago,
back in eight September. But Bama was on the road
in that game. So you want to say, all right,
now that we're pushing three and the games on a
neutral maybe Bama has a little bit of value. I
think both teams should be in no matter what. I mean,
unless this game is like Georgia fifty two to ten.
(22:14):
Like I just, I don't see a world where you
can penalize Alabama for playing a thirteenth game against the
top five team. It's similar to what the committee did
last year with SMU. They played a close game in
the a SEC Championship game, they lost to Clemson, and
they still put SMU in the field over Alabama. Ironically enough,
so I am in the boat of both Alabama and
(22:35):
Georgia deserve to be in the playoff based off of
their current resume, and we're not going to penalize for
playing that extra game. It should be a reward to
play in the conference champiship game, not a penalty. The
matchups I think are pretty unique. So both teams are
offensive line deficient right now. For Alabama, one of the
best players, frankly in the country that you probably don't
hear a ton about is their center Parker Breils. For
(22:57):
this dude is a Sunday player. You don't see a
lot of centers pull a lot in college football anymore.
It's hard to do it. He is one of the best,
and he's a little bang up right now. I watch
that tape against Auburn last week. He can barely move,
so he's got kind of a bum leg. We'll see
how healthy he is in this game. Jan Miller is
going to be out as well. For Alabama. That is
a huge loss.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
We'll see.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
How about their young tight end Quavis. He's been a
great player as well. George is also missing a couple players,
so this is kind of a war of attrition, and
these games have had a tendency to get weird. George
has done a good job throwing it out of heavier
personnels this season. They use their two tight end sets
better than anyone else. They've got two fantastic tight ends
and I think they're going to continue to utilize that
(23:38):
because if you can make Bama play on your terms
defensively right Caane Wollmack loves to run a lot of
zone scheme. They run a three three to five base defense.
That's three down line and three linebackers five defensive backs.
That means if you can force them to go a
little bit heavier by bringing an extra tight end on
the field, you can kind of dictate terms or seeing
the NFL do this a lot now, especially the Rams
(23:59):
are having a great season throwing it out of twelve
and even thirteen personnel with three tight ends on the field.
I don't think Georgia will get that heavy, but I
do think Gunner Stockton's got a little bit of an
edge in this game. He's playing a little bit better
right now than Tyz Simpson, who's kind of been trending down.
I think Georgia is the better team, but these games
have a tendency to get wacky, Doug, So I think
the best bet is actually to wait for the game
(24:19):
to start, see who takes the first lead, and then
live bet the other side at you know, hopefully north
of a touchdown. Because what do we see with this
rivalry over the last few years. One team gets a
big lead, Bama twenty eight to nothing. Last year, Georgia
comes back and takes the lead and Bamba wins it late.
So that's kind of the vibe I get with this one.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
On Saturday ACC Championship game, Duke Virginia Virginia ten and two.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They beat Duke early this year. They're a four point
favorite totals fifty seven, a half.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Disaster scenario for the ACC if Duke win's this game.
So you want to put your ten foil hat on
and say all the calls are gonna go Virginia's way.
I don't think that will happen, but I'm sure there
will be some people on social media talking about that
Virginia did win this game. Two weeks Ago as a
five point road dog. Now they're basically a five point
neutral favorite. So I do think the value is on duke.
(25:05):
But which duke team is gonna show up if they
play clean football and they don't turn it over and
they can run it with their freshman back Ny Sheppard,
I think they're very live in this game. But Men's
has been very turnover prone this year and Virginia. Listen,
I think when you can run it on Virginia, you
can have success. Go back and watch the NC State
game earlier in the year. Hollywood Smothers went absolutely berserk
on this team. Florida State ran it well. Of course,
(25:27):
you know Virginia won that game in two overtimes. UNC
ran it well on Virginia, So I think that's the
path for Duke. But on the other side, I think
this is where Virginia's got the edge Chandler Morris against
a very vulnerable duke secondary. The duke secondary was supposed
to be great this year. Terry Moore, one of the
best safeties in the country towards ACL in a bowl
game last January, hasn't played it all this year. They've
(25:47):
got one decent corner on the outside Chandler Rivers. The
rest of it is very average, and what it's done,
it's prevented Manny Diaz, who likes to be very exotic
with his blitz packages. Well, when you're vulnerable in the secondary,
you can't really commit too much up front. So it's
kind of handcuffed Daz from coaching defense the way he
wants to coach.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And I loved what I've seen from Chandler Morris this year.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
The transfer from North Texas done a really good job
with this Virginia offense. I'd like the run game with
Jamari Taylor. Virginia should win this game, but the ACC
has been so wacky this year. Doug, I don't want
to get in front of a prediction here, but the
conspiracy theorists are gonna be all over the Duke train here.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Indiana Ohio State, but guys are a four point favorite
totals forty seven a half.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I love Ohio State here. I think I think we've
seen a really good year from Indiana. But I think,
you know, when it's men against boys, I think sometimes
it's just hard to be on the boys side. And
I think the one thing I've noticed from Indiana they
don't have a real burner on offense. They've got a
lot of good possession receivers. I love Sarat you know,
(26:49):
the big talent kind of reminds with Mike Evans, but
he's not a guy that's just gonna run right past you.
And what Ohio State doesn't do a lot of is
actually playing man coverage. They're kind of an average man
coverage team Patricia runs at around two twenty five percent
this year. But when they do run it, they're very effective.
And I think they're gonna run it more in this
game because I just don't see a lot of burn
potential from this Indiana offense. You got Ig Bonosen and
(27:10):
Matthews on the outside, very physical corners for Ohio State.
I think Caleb Down's best player on the field the
free safety strong safety. They'll bring him to the line
of scrimmage and the'll blitz him as well. I mean,
he is basically like the queen on the chess board
and on the other side. I think Ohio State's offense
has a real edge here. Indiana plays zone coverage at
the highest rate in college football. Ninety percent of their
(27:31):
defensive snaps are out of zone. Well, guess who has
the highest Pro Football Focus grade against zone coverage this year.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's Julian Saying.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Now, to be fair, he has a high PFF grade
for pretty much every coverage that he faces. But when
you play zone against saying, he is able to basically
drop back and pick out which of his absurdly talented
receivers he wants to throw to. And to be fair,
Indiana did a really good job last year in this
game keeping Jeremiah Smith in check. Only three catches for
thirty four yards. But the problem is you had aguk
(28:00):
Uh and Tate go off. Well, now you've got a
junk and I said you've got the tight end too.
So I think Ohio State wins this game. I think
Julian Saying wins the Heisman, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That would make Dan Byer very happy.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Of course, Dan really cares about the national championship, not
the Heisman or who wins the Big Ten championship. But
still would would be would be happy, and we want
Dan happy.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's a big thing. Uh. Jared, you're the best man.
Look forward to hearing you tomorrow morning. Thanks much for
being our guest.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's Jared Smith.
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The game today is.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
I Got DIBs all right?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Three categories that we will try to get DIBs on.
The first category most intriguing game of Week fourteen in
the NFL starting in three two one, bidding is open.
I got DIBs on Bengals Bills. I know it has
nothing to do with any division. It's the highest scoring
(29:43):
game the Bengals are going to be without Trey Hendrickson.
T Higgins comes back, the over under, it is by
far the highest in Week fourteen fifty three and a half.
Give me Bengals Bills in that early window.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I got DIBs, Yes, come on, really, but damn, what
are you being nice and letting me keep it that
you're doing?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Hey, I figured it would be a fight between you
and Sam.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Bearsh Packers lambeau Field three twenty five local on Fox,
Little light snow in the area, twenty three degrees, Packers Big,
Packers Big.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Should be a dandy. I got DIBs on Titans, Browns.
I'm just kidding. I have DIBs on Colts and Jaguars.
Wait a minute, hold on, just Sam, Just Sam?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
That up?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Sam will No one's picking Bro.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That's gonna be like the second most covered game this week.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
It's like when listeners come up, it's Cam or should
do it? I forgot when listeners come up to me
on the street and they say, what do you guys
mean when you say Sam? You never explain it.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Never storyline you're never on.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I'm gonna give them on the street. It's the storyline.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
When I was hiking with my hot girlfriend, that's how
you need to start the sentence. Jase too, When I'm
hiking with my hot girlfriend and somebody also is scared
to walk up half Dome, then this happens. Or I
get out of breath to go up half Dome, this happens.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't know if Buyer's got this story, but I
don't want to Sam up his press, but there was
a story where the most googled athlete in the world
this year out of everybody, Shadu or Sander?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is that is that real?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yes, he is the most trending athlete of twenty twenty five,
and that's why I am going to tune into Titans
at Brown's. Yeah, it's the mel Kuiper Bowl. It's the
mel Kuiper Bowl one and two on his list.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
There's a lot of good storylines, but it doesn't matter
in the grand scheme. That's why it was a joke,
and that's why I'm going officially with Colts Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Next.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Moving on, it is hilarious that Sam's joke was Jason's answer.
He could have gone Dolphins Jets, but he went Titans
Browns because they have the worst two records. But there
is intrigue there, all right. Moving on to topic number two.
Non US soccer country. This happens to everybody.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They'll cheer for the US and the World Cup, but
they've got another team because of their heritage or where
they traveled to. So that's what I'm looking at here,
non soccer country, non US soccer country for the World Cup.
In three to one, I.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Got DIBs on Whales.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm Welsh.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
It's a tiny little country in the United Kingdom that
doesn't have as a robust of a soccer history as
maybe surrounding countries. They make a little run here and there.
Give me the Welsh. They have not yet qualified. I
don't know they even in the World Cup, but they
still have a chance. I think they're in the playoffs qualify. Yes,
the last time there's some playoff appearances.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, I thought they were What kind What kind of
country am I looking for here?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
What? Non US? So when the World Cup comes around
in the US is ultimately eliminated by the quarterfinals, there's
people usually say like, well, ches My great grandfather was
from you know, Poland, so I'm gonna cheer for Poland.
Yeah they two, Yeah, yes we're past that. But yeah,
so what country I got? It was on Germany. I'll
(33:37):
just take Germany because German.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, gems, it's not German, it's copp.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
No, it's if it's not Scottish, it's crap. I know.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I'm gonna go course.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
To day twenty eight drinking German.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Bill McBride remember that movie Hot Shots, when that that
one scene where she's like, do you know German? He's like,
I know a little German and they pointed to like
a little person that was Germany.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Hey, I was gonna pick Switzerland, but it's just kind
of neutral about them.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Ah, Jason's pick and you just I away sammed it
up though with the joke.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
No, my pick is that one euro country where that
one guy overreacts when he gets injured and he acts
like he was shot on the field and then.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
That's game time. And then they used that weird like
a spray game time?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Where is it a game time?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
This is game time? On the Dug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Think about Who's Bekistan? That's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Let's get you ready for the big weekend. Next to
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