Why Does Steph Curry Struggling In The Post Season?

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we are Farmers. Ah. What a great weekend in sports, unless,
of course, you had maximum security to win the Kentucky
Derby and you went running around the house screaming because
you picked a winner, albeit it would have been a
favorite to win for I think the seventh consecutive time,

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or worse yet, you had the actual winner and you
tore up your ticket. Right. I'm sure there are stories
of that, but for the most part, an amazing sports weekend.
We got a four overtime NBA game on Friday Night.
That's the crazy thing about Friday Nights and sports. No

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one talking about that. Because the Blazers then lost at
home yesterday. We're not talking about Friday Nights game. On Monday.
We have a sudden rise to prominence by the Milwaukee Bucks,
who have retaken control of this series. They got the
Celtics tonight, and we have the Houston Rockets staring off

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what would have been sure elimination, sure elimination and surviving
over time against the Golden State Warriors. So what happens
when the Warriors lose the game that they probably should
rightfully win. They had the ball, tie score thirty eight
seconds to go, kde holds the ball comes down, shoots

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and misses with fourteen seconds to go, and then game
goes to overtime. Steph Curry misses two layups, Clay Thompson
ms is a wide open pull up, and the Rockets
get a couple of calls here or there and survive
in overtime. What's left on the finger pointing and what
could have been a series ceiling win. We end up

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trying to figure out hold on a second is Kevin
Durant scoring too many points. Is it too much about
Kevin Durant and not enough about Steph Curry? Why can't
Steph Curry be Steph Curry? And then I think back
and I said, huh, Well, over the last five years,
we've heard he's hurt, he's tired, he's hurt, and now

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it's Kevin dur An's fault, right, it's k D's fault
that against the Clippers. At times he was just a
guy and against the rockets. So far he's at eighteen,
twenty and seventeen and kind of been just a guy.
Anytime Steph Curry is shooting in the thirty mid thirties

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from the field and the twenties from three point range,
you start to go, what's wrong with Steph? You know?
It's fascinating here. I my daughter was printing out something
at seven forty five. We leave for school at seven fifty.

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Her school starts with like eight oh five, and I
was like, what are you doing? She said, I got
this history project and it wasn't I don't know if
it's taken care of. And it's a group project, and
my my, my people in my group, they don't do
what they're supposed to do. So I'm printing this out
just in case. I was like, Oh, you had the
whole weekend, the whole weekend to print these things out,

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but instead you ight t seven And then you started
costing me. Why does our printer? I have having INC?
The printer not having INC is a solid question on
Friday afternoon or Saturday afternoon, not on Monday morning. And
so we're on the way to school and I was like, hey, look, man,
slock it up. If you don't have it in, get

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it in tomorrow. Go into a computer lab. Do you
guys still have computer labs? Print that stuff out? Why? Dad?
Do we study history? I don't care about Roman history. Well,
so we're not doomed or is it deemed? To repeat it? Right,

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let's study Steph Curry Historically. I've told you this and
no one else has said it. Sure, Kevin Durant left
a team that was up three games one and lost
to the Warriors, But he was also joining a team that,
like the seventy three wins, did not mean they were
the greatest team we had ever seen. It just didn't

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even the year before when they won a championship. If
you go back and remember every team they played in
the playoffs that year, did not have their point guard
for at least two games. Drew Holiday didn't play two games.
Mike Conley didn't play uh two games. Remember they didn't
play the Spurs that year. They didn't play the Clippers

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that year, and right, and when they played the Rockets,
Patrick Beverley didn't play. And that wasn't the Rockets now
as the Rockets. They didn't play. And then they got
to the finals and Kyrie got hurt in overtime of
Game one and the Rockets and it was seeing me
the Calves. And then played the Calves in the playoffs
in the finals and Kyrie got hurt in Game one,

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and they didn't have Kevin Love. And so what people
make the mistake of doing is they're like, well, they
were a championship team that won seventy three games and
he had to join them. There's a re and the
Warriors needed him, right. It wasn't just because they wanted
an embarrassment of Riches. It was because they had plateaued.

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People had figured them out, and they realized that Harrison
Barnes has a certain level. There's a reason andre Iguodala
won the m v P two years previously. Why was that?
Because this is the playoffs. Playoff basketball has not sometimes
not most times, has always been different than regular season basketball.

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And the way in which Staph plays, which is incredible
and fun to watch and free flowing and creative. And
he makes what used to be bad shots into good
shots because he shoots a high percentage, no matter if
it's in his right hand, his left hand off to
catch up the dribble with with guys in his face,
it doesn't seem to matter. But he is not the
perfect human being. That one doesn't exist, noisy the perfect player,

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and he is somebody who The reason people like myself
wondered how great an NBA player who would be is
how would he handle the physicality? Well, the answer is
in the regular season it's way less physical than it
used to be. Both offensively and then defensively, you can hide.
In the playoffs, you can't Steph Curry offensively. Reminds me

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of Peyton Manning's offense when he was with the Indianapolis Colts.
Do you guys remember that again? Why do we study history?
You gotta learn from it. The paths used to mall
the Indianapolis Colts. They used to grab him. They used
to hold them, they used to chuck them at the
line of scrimmage. Why because that offense was designed for

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regular season football where everything could be on time, a
timing based offense. You get to the playoffs and they
start swallowing those flags. They started keeping them in their pockets,
and suddenly everything changes. And what was the most dynamic offense? Hell,
it happened in the Super Bowl. It was the greatest
offense we had ever seen. He's in denverything for fifty

(08:04):
touchdown passes and he gets against the Seattle Seahawks and
what they do. They mauled him. And what happened in
the NBA playoffs with the Oklahma City Thunder when they
have three games to one, they mauled him and Clay
Thompson went nuts, like, we don't even remember what happened.

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Katie didn't play well. Clay Thompson goes nuts. They win
Game six, in game seven, is it Golden State? And
the Warriors survive and then they get to the finals
and they have a three games to one lead, alright,
and then they lose Andrew Bogett, who said, who's their toughness?

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They lose Draymond Green their toughness and they end up
losing too in an incredible game, which, by the way,
Game seven could have gone either way. Game six, same
thing could have gone either way. And if Andrew Gondala
dunks to lay up instead of laying it up off
the backboard, Lebron doesn't block the shop, we don't remember
any of that stuff. Look, dude, all this stuff you're
seeing is the same stuff we've seen for five years

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with Steph. He's awesome, but when the officials allow you
to grab and hold and make things more difficult, it
limits his ability to be Steph Curry. Whereas you can
tell me that Katie, the offense stops. The offense stops
because they start grabbing you and holding you, and you

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have to be able to play through it. And Kevin
Durant is seven ft tall who can handle the ball,
and he can play through it. That's it. Don't overthink it.
Well what do you what? What data do you have
to support that Steph Curry is I got five years
go back and just google every story about the Golden

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State Warriors at this point in time. In every playoff run,
he's hurt, he's not healthy, he's tired, he's worn down.
Something's wrong with staff, nothing's wrong with steff. What's allowed
by the defense has changed. It's the exact same thing
as what happened with the Indianapolis Colts. What is Peyton

(10:18):
Manning suddenly a bad quarterback in the playoffs? He's like
a five quarterback in the playoffs. He's like an eight
fifty quarterback in the regular season. Why is that because
the officiating is different? You're dope. Stop denying it. Everybody
who knows anything about sports knows that they started. They
let you get away with stuff in the postseason that
they don't have the regular season. We take the regular

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season to be the law. Why do we do that?
Who had the best recordar record of the regular season
the Eastern Conference last year? Toronto Rafts. How they do
in the playoffs? Swept out of the second round? Who
had the year before? Boston Celtics. Nobody thought they were
the best team. They just went for it, right with
Isaiah Thomas. They were down two games down the Chicago
Bulls before Rondo at his knee. Like the regular season

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has never mattered, you guys just fall for it. Every
year was ESPN or t N T. They make you
want to believe the regular season matters, because otherwise, why
the hell would you watch a regular season No possible reason.
Guys don't even play some of the regular season games,
So don't give me the regular season record with Kawhi

(11:24):
Letterard without Kawhi Leonard, Like, I don't care. I heard
Colin Coward talking about well, but what was it? Kawhi
Leonard doesn't make anybody better? Does he not have cable?
He's guarding the other team's best player, shutting him down
and scoring seemingly at well, shooting a high percentage, and

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he's a very good rebounder. I don't know. Stop taking
the regular season as law. The regular season, the regular season,
it's almost a different sport. It's played a different level
of intensity, with a different type of issues officiating, and
with a with it, almost a different skill set. And

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this happens every year where Steph seems to be worn down.
He this year he distilcated his finger legit injury. In
years past, he's rolled his ankle legit injury. But you
compound that with the physicality on defense, the grabbing, the holding,
the clutching, and he's not able to be staff Like, dude,
what's happened to staff, is the same thing happens to

(12:26):
James Harden, Like, man, why is James Harden not getting calls?
Because it's the playoffs. You don't get every single poke
in prod and flop and head throwback call the foul
you do in the regular season. So we can blame
Kevin Durant, we can blame Steph Curry, I mean, Steve

(12:48):
Kerr's game plan. We should give a little bit of
credit to the Houston Rockets. But when a guy who
has performed at or above the level of every gray
player in the NBA struggles at this point in time
the playoffs for five consecutive years to look like the
same player, you have enough data to support the argument

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that the playoffs are different and his style does not
benefit from the officiating that changes in the playoffs. The
same could be said for Peyton Manning for years, and
if you don't see the correlation, you're just not watching
the sport. It's officiated differently because everybody says, well, you know,
the playoffs, you've gotta be man, be tougher. When we

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get tired of seeing penalty flags and we get tired
to see him fouls called, we want to see the
best of the best, and this is how we determine
what it is. NBA insider Chris Haines joins the show.
What does he think about steps issues at times in
the playoffs? And uh not sure. If you heard what
Lebron said about Magic bailing on the Lakers, it did

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that everyone's talking about is John Morant called himself a
point god. That's g O D point god. Uh kind
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But Chris, what I've been told by my son is, UH,
that that's a that's a common term, Like my son's
like I'm a point god, and that it's something that
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it's a designed for the tops amongst that position. So

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you I really don't don't hear that term, you know,
that word thrown out there too much. I definitely haven't
heard the player who you're actually talking about, uh, say
that about himself. So you know, but I think it
shows that, you know, he has a lead confidence in himself,
and he has a tremendous story, Doug, and he let
it all out and you know that's that episode is

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gonna drop tomorrow more than I heard people to. He's
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tremendous backstory and how he got to where he's at,
and I think people listening to hear that they'll understand
why he why he speaks so highly of himself and
the skill set as of right now. Now he sees
an incredible talent. I mean there's a legit discussion we

(18:17):
had not just if you take him too, but you
take him number one overall because of you know, dominant
ball handlers now they can affect the game. Yeah, and
he doesn't, you know, he really doesn't have a weakness,
you know, in this game. He's pretty much sure for
his age. Uh So I think it's definitely going to
be a hot topic, you know, as we progress to
get closer to the NBA Draft, and uh, you know,

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he's man. I wish I could say a lot of
stuff now, but man, he is. He just caught me
by surprise with his maturity, how bold he was he was,
and and and making claims about where he at, where
he's at in this game compared to you know, his
rookie counterparts. And so I think people want to really

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get a real good glimpse into that type of person
years and I think I think they'll fall in love
with especially if he is up backing it, you know,
backing it up with his game. Chris Haynes joining us
in the dug Otlip Show on Fox Sports Trading, I
offered up that I understand we want to find people
to blame for why Steph. At times it's not step
in the playoffs. But I got five years of data

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and every year it's he's tired or he's hurt. I
even heard he's you know, he's not clutch like or
maybe the playoffs are just super super physical and that
that's just that doesn't fit his game, like the the
the amount of finesse in his game doesn't fit the
physicality of the playoffs, and he oftentimes struggles in the playoffs.

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Doesn't struggle for a normal player, but for Steph. Curry
has been a two time m VP in the first
ever unanimous m v P. This is a bit of
a struggle. Where do you side on why Steph hasn't
been staff at least in this series. Well, you know,
I think UM teams do that. The game plan is always,
you know, be physical with Steph. Uh, you know, try

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to block his pathways to to getting free. You're bumping them,
you're holding a little bit, and that's magnify a lot
more in the playoffs and you get away with doing
that a little bit more. Look, I don't have an
excuse for Steff. You know, I've I've said this, you
know years back with you where I felt like he
hasn't had a signature moment in the finals, and uh

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he he has in the playoffs. You know, I remember
a couple of years ago in Portland when he came
back from the injury and I can't remember that how
many points score, but you know, he just made his
presence field. But in the finals he hasn't. You know,
I think this is rare to this point where if
not in the finals, because the finals to me is
where he hasn't shown to to step up to the plate.

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And if you look at you know, all the all
the finals trips he's had, there's no finals MVP hardware. Um.
You know in his possession that's going to k D
and the way Katie's playing, if they continue to go
to to go at this pace, you know he's going
to get his thirst FOREHINTOVP. So you know, no, I
think he's getting criticism, but Doug, he isn't getting killed.

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You know, I think he hasn't gotten killed over the
over the over the years because Warriors at one even
despite him not you know, being playing up to a
love with everybody, you know, anticipated so he's been a
little bit of heat more. But you know, I think
there's a combination of just physicality, you know, something he's
dealing with a finger injury as well. But you know,

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if you're out in the court, they expect you to
be the start that you are now. People forget last
year against Houston game one, in game two, he was
combined two of thirteen from three. Uh, he averaged nineteen
points a game, and then he had then he had
thirty five, twenty eight, and then you know in twenty
two in a loss, uh, and then you know he
was he was great the last two. I just I
feel like this is kind of par for the course,

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and he and Clay USTI having had like a Clay
Thompson game either where you know he's gone for forty
and you do feel like that's coming. Um, at some
point in every series there's a eight Timpson game. No,
not for sure, there's a Claytons. Yeah, it could be
tonight easily. But um, I think with the way the
offense has um transition to going through Kevin durant um

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these playoffs, I think it's kind of you know, I
wouldn't say thrown other players off with it. You know,
they're taking time to get adjusted. I wouldn't say that's
the case with Steph. I just think the Rockets are
playing physical with him, and I think they're in his
head a little bit. You know, that's the only way
to explain, you know, all those points Blake layups, he
missed it in Game three. Um. You know, so you

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know I expect step to have a bounce back. But
you know we're talking about, you know, not stepping up
at certain times. You know, obviously you know step has
a history as a track record of not I'm not
doing that. Um. You know. I think he'll bounce back.
But I think the reason he hasn't been criticized like
Lebron James, because the Warriors just keep winning, you know,

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even though he doesn't step up to the play at times.
M Okay, let's let's get to Kevin Durant. Um. Steve
Kerr said he might be the best player ever played
the game. Um. Suddenly, now we're looking at Kevin rant
and talking about him differently. Do you think this changes
in any way his plans for the off season. I don't.
I don't. Um. Maybe maybe to help, but I don't.

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I think, Um, I don't know where Kevin is leaning
towards like I don't know if he's leading towards leading
to stand, but you know, it sounds like his mind
may be made up already. UM. But you know, so
when it when it comes to the way he's playing
and the praise that he's receiving right now, I think, Um,

(23:42):
I think that's good. I think, you know, I think
it's also a tactic as well, uh, and trying to
stay in his good graces to reassure him that he's
a big part of his team and they need him.
What's what's they do because I don't think they win
the last two chapiterships while don't Uh, but you know,
I think as as it pertains to his creation decision,
I don't know if this is going to have much

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of an In fact, Doug gotlip show on Fox Sport Trader.
That's a voice of Chris Haynes, NBA insider for Yahoo Sports.
Let's go out to the East and we'll start with
the Philadelphia seventy six years another game and another uh
litany of discussions about whether or not you can count
on Joel and Bid because of sickness or injury. And

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then there's Ben Simmons, who's not performing and being taken
out of this series by Kauai Leonard Um. You know,
let's say they lose this series to the Raptors. Do
you think one of those two could be one of
the ones gone instead of you know, the Tobias Harris
to the Jimmy Butler. Well, I think they gotta look
at it. I think I'll look into it, because you know,

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it's funny. After Game three Joel and b you know,
it was was getting the cheven rat type praise, and
you know, I think Mark Jackson had to comment about,
you know, if he can sinues that this page heasn
and he's healthy, they would be the best UM center
to ever play the game. And then coming off a
Game four and I understand it was a sickness, but

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you know it's just it's just you're just always dealing
with something, you know, as it pertains to him, where
it's an illness or or an entry. The point blank,
he just hasn't been durable, hasn't been able to steal
on the floor. Um. And then Ben Simmons like it's
it's it's becoming more and more apparent, and I think
it's coming more more more apparent for him Uh that

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he really truly in the off season gets a jumper,
picks up a jumper because he's good. He's being taken
out of a serious and and on the other hand,
like he's a pretty solid defensive player. I I I had,
I didn't put him on my all NBA UM defensive
UM ballot, but I mean team, but I was thinking
about it, and um, right now he's just not even

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holding in on that side of the ball as well.
You know, there's it's, it's it's somewhat. It's it's getting
to the point where he's not he's not getting through
screens and forcing screens. And with a player like Kauai,
you really got to exert a lot of a lot
of energy and effort into getting over, getting under whatever
you want to do. He's not doing that. He's getting
stuck and he's dying on the screen and Kauai is

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getting off and they have to figure out something. As
it potains in the future if they were to fall
um uh in this series and get bounced in the
second round after the after the way they were up um,
they really got to the management front office open brand
has to really look at that core and see is
this a this a core that we need moving forward?

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Because I think, um, if they falter, I really do
think they got looked a little deep and hard on
this MBA that sin as pairing is good moving forward. UM.
Brad Stevens won't complain about the officiating, but everybody else will.
What do you think about the officiating in the Celtics
Buck series? Is that Has that been the determining factor? Well, look,

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I'll say this, man, I'll watch that whole game. Last
game Boston and UM in Milwaukee. Janice was getting to
the rim at will, was imposing his force. He was fearless.
He could not be stopped. And when he attacks the rim,
he's trying to dunk every single time. Maybe a few

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of the calls were unwarranted, but most of them he
was hated. He was hacked. But that that's just his
aggression level. So you know, it's easy to look at
the at the end of the day, look at the
box score and see the free throw discrepancy. But I
mean we gotta go back and look at the plays. Man,
Yannice couldn't be stopped. And this is for a guy
who doesn't have a jump shote at all. So you

(27:38):
know what nobody's gonna do. And they still couldn't prevent
him from getting those paint touches. And if they don't
stop him, if he's still relentless and and nobody comes
over and builds all around him, excuse my phrasing, but
you know he it's going to continue to be like that.
And so until they try to limit um yannice touches

(27:59):
around the pain, try to prevent him from from just
getting where he wants, they're going to continue to have
this problem. And I didn't. I didn't see it as
a as a big problem with this is more so
as I've seen it was a big issue with their defense.
That's the voice of Chris Haynes. Of course it's uh
posted up with Chris Haynes podcast. He joins in the
Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

(28:22):
let's get to last night's game. Portland's succumbs to Yokich
and the Denver Nuggets. Um I I look, I he's
been unbelievable, I mean unbelievable or remarkable past or even
that last big and one was you know, was was
playing through Yokich. But I do wonder the longer this
thing goes. You know, the in the four overtime game

(28:43):
he ran out of gas. Really in Game seven against
the Spurs, he ran out of gas. Like, isn't a
good plan for Portland' like just make this series go
as long as possible and maybe the big fellow doesn't
have anything left. Yeah, it's kind of like the let
me see is that the the Muhammad Ali and that
they get the rope of dopea just you know, get

(29:04):
them get into that final round and handle business. But
I'll say this, Um, I think I think it's going
to have you know, Denmer is going to have to
make a decision at some point just with the rotation
and trying to get Yoker's a little bit more rest
because and I could stand the concern from Mike malonean
doing so because everything runs through yo kids on the

(29:25):
office and there, Like I didn't I didn't really think. Um.
I first of all, I thought Denver would get bounced
in the first round. I thought san Antonio would take
care of That's that's who I picked because I just
think I just didn't think in this day, in this
day and age, that you can run your office through
a big particularly in the postseason, and you know, he's
showing that he's doing he's doing that, he's dominating the
offense again and you know, so he has one of

(29:47):
the best floaters in the NBA and for a big man,
and so he's doing this thing. But look, I think
if you're im Portland's you kind of like where things
are going. Obviously you want to get that game for it,
but you like where things are going because you know
you want to rely on Sati and the lack of energy,
you know, creeping up on Yokis. I just don't. I

(30:09):
just don't. I just don't like their situation now because
the next two of the three games were in Denver,
and so that doesn't vote well. Denver is always one
of the hardest places to play at the league, so
that's gonna be tough. But you know, even if Portland
doesn't run yokers to the ground in this series, like
if they advanced, I definitely think that's where it's going
to really take its tolls. But you know, if you're

(30:31):
playing go to Goden State or Houston teams that run
and you know, get up and down, I don't think
that's gonna bote well for Yolkers. But you know, as
of right now, I still think differs Gonadriy receive Christs Chris.
Last thing, Uh, it appears that Tyler's can be the
next head coach of the Lakers. Outside of trying to
go at Anthony Davis, who else do you think they'll at.

(30:54):
It's tough, Doug, It's really tough. And I get asked
this question a lot um. If you look at all
the top three agness that's out there, you already have
them kind of like paved with a primary team like
k D. Either go to State or you're here in
New York. Kyrie, you here in Boston or New York, Kawhi, LETTERD,
you're here in Toronto or the Clippers. You know, Jimmy Butler,

(31:15):
you don't hear the Lakers as a primary target. So
it's going to be tough. And that's why I think
it's gonna be really imperative and important to try to
man see if they can snag a D in that trade, because, uh,
if the word is holding true as as far as
with these players, these primary free agent targets are looking
at if it holds true, and the Lakelands are not

(31:36):
you know, a primary destination. Then it's gonna be a
tough free acy. That's why I just gonna make that
a d uh. That a d The development that are
more important to look for. Um you you Lebron James
was on he had the Shop Show Whatever, and the
Shop he expressed his surprise and his dismay over Magic

(31:57):
not just bailing on the Lakers, but not calling him,
not giving him the heads up. Of course, many people
pointed out, like, hey, Lebron, you didn't get people the
heads up when you left Cleveland a little bit different circumstance.
It wasn't you know, the night of a game, you know,
your last regular season home game or whatever. Um. But
but it is interesting. How do you think Lebron comes
off in that latest version of The Shop. Well, look,

(32:20):
I'll say this, obviously, I understand his frustration that Magic
Johnson didn't follow protocol. I guess when you're going to
step down, especially when you you just recruit this guy,
you made promises and now you're not going to be there.
But at the same time, I think Lebron has to
put in that perspective like Magic is known Genie pretty

(32:41):
much her whole life, and he didn't even inform her,
you know what I'm saying, So so you're not if
he didn't inform her there, you know, I don't think
he owes that much more to Lebron. So it was
just a screwed up situation all the way around. Magic
did not handle that right. Um. He tried to explain
himself why he didn't do it that way, but that

(33:02):
that wasn't no way to do it. But so I
don't think the Brock said take it too personal because
there was a lot of other people who are that
much more closer than Magic h that didn't get the
same benefit. Chris Haynes and the Inside Download that podcast
post up with Chris Haynes you want to learn more
about John Morant. That drops tomorrow. Chris, thanks so much
for joining us. Thanks take care Pleasure's mind. Let's get

(33:23):
you to Dan Buyer, who is gloating, feeling good about
himself because the Bucks are now up two games to one,
thinking about different places that he can send me to
buy him a pizza. I didn't think that the bet
was ever completed because you didn't make a prediction in
the series. So I took the Celtics, you took the
Bucks we've it was. I said Bucks in five, and

(33:44):
you said I'll take that bet, and then there was
nothing else. And I'm like, well, if I'm just going
out on the limb with games and the team, I
would at least need like odds like three pizzas or
something like that. But I don't know if we'll see
all plays out just because you didn't make a So
I felt that the a the Bucks had to win,
and that it was the Bucks in five. See if

(34:06):
the Bucks won in six. I didn't know if you
were gonna say, oh, theydn't win in five. I wasn't
sure how it was gonna play out. I just didn't
know your pick. Do you want? You want to know?
Is what you want here? No? No, we could keep
after game one that that did not happen. I was
worried after game one, but feeling good right now, but
Celtics could get better because Marcus Smartest feeling good or

(34:28):
at least better, good enough to be listed as questionable
for tonight's game four seven o'clock Eastern time in Boston.
With the Bucks up to one, Warriors up to one.
They play in Houston tonight nine thirty Eastern time against
the Rockets, Giants and Red's right Now on the bottom
of the eighth inning, Cincinnati Leeds twelve to four. The
game was delayed by Bees for about twenty minutes. To

(34:49):
start the game, Red Sox plays pitcher David Price on
the ten day injured list because of elbow tend tonitis.
The XFL announced that they have struck TV deals with
Fox and ESPN to carry games when the league launches
in twent want and after Maximum Security was stripped of
his Kentucky Derby went on Saturday, the horses owners pulled
the horse out of the preaking mistakes. Gary West making
the announcement on the Today's Show and says they will

(35:09):
appeal the derby decision with the Kentucky Horse Racing Commissioned.
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we no longer that that is not instant replay right,
instant replays replay in an instant that was twenty two

(35:53):
minutes long. But like, look, most of us learned something
about horse race seeing we didn't know. I thought Robin
was racing. Thought that apparently is only NASCAR, not in
horse racing. But you know, like look when you go
back and you watch it, like all right, that's the rules.

(36:14):
I was pretty bad. What I want to know is
who's the snitch? Because the way in which it was
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(37:23):
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The game today, Doug is big deal, little deal, No deal,
Big deal, little deal or no deal. At the NBA's
final two Minute Reports show James Harden should have been
called for a charge late in the Rockets Game three
overtime win against Golden States. Big deal. It's blatant charge.

(37:49):
I mean, look, it hurts you in a multitude of ways.
Everybody freaks out of her Steph Curry, it was what
was it? It was three point game. He drives in,
shoots the floater charges um doesn't mean the Warriors would
have won the game. So look, if we want to
sit there and go like game one and in fairness,
the Warriors had plenty of opportunities, that was a blatant mischarge.

(38:12):
There's there are different severities of a push off missed
in the scramble and star player goes and barrels in over.
You know, Draymond Green taking a perfect charge. For my money,
that said Warrior still gonna win the game. Big deal,
little deal or no deal that Marcus Smarter. The Celtics
has been upgraded to questionable for tonight's Game four against
the Bucks. I don't think there's any question that's a

(38:33):
big deal. You know, the Celtics are just not the
same team in terms of they're they're a bit too
selfish and Marcus, though he'll take some bad shots because
he's not a good shooter, he is selfless in how
he defends. He brings great energy. He's a difference maker
to who they are and what they do. There's a
reason they paid a bunch of money to keep him.
Even statistically he would tell him, they just tell you
they should let him go. I think that's a big deal,

(38:55):
big deal, little deal or no deal that Sixers center
Joel Embiid was ill during yesterday's game against the Toronto Raptors,
a game that the Sixers ended up losing one oh
one to I think it's a big deal. But I
also think it's a big deal that that that he
hasn't been right, you know, at least two of the
four games so far, right, like that that's really telling
of Joel Embiid. There's a certain amount of of lack

(39:18):
of understanding for his level of health as a kid, right,
what did he eat? How healthy was he? And then
there's a lack of buy into how hard does he
work at his body, at his health in the off season,
how important is it for him in the regular season.
He's a great talent and honestly a great player, but
you know, you gotta be available, you gotta and got

(39:39):
be ready to go. I gotta know your body and
got to manage it. And to this point, he is
not big deal, little dealer, no deal that the owner
of Maximum Security won't run the horse in the Preak
Mistakes after it was stripped of its Kentucky Derby Crown
on Saturday. Um, that feels like a big deal, right,
It feels like a big deal. Like if you want
to claim yourself, you want to do the Central Florida

(40:00):
thing right and claim yourself as the mythical triple Crown winner.
Shouldn't you run the Preakness, win the thing, then win
the Belmont Stakes and go like, hey, we won all three? Yeah?
I think I think it would be the draw, Like,
wouldn't you want to see her that head to head
with Country House? However, I would think so. Yeah, whoever's
calling me right now, I also would like to see it. No,

(40:24):
I know who it is. Big deal, little deal or
no deal. It's the wife. Big deal, little deal or
no deal that the wife is allowed to have our
anniversary deal wife tonight. Yeah, it's our anniversary today. We
can have it. We can have our dinner after buck Celtics.
Is that a big deal, little deal or no deal? Yeah? Actually,
just a second, Yeah, that's she's a keeper. By the way,

(40:44):
that's a big deal. That's the anniversary. But I'm on
the air right now, and the phone was really loud?
Can I call you back? All right? Thanks? She's great,
See there you go. But she allowed us to go
out to eat after Bucks Celtics tonight. My wife we
went out to eat Saturday night and I said, um,
can we go somewhere we can see the TV? And
we were up in a rooftop bar down to the beach. Afterwards,

(41:05):
we had a couple of drinks and she was like,
I know you want to watch overtime? Go watch over time? Yeah, alright,
and there you go. I It's okay. She's and Harper
is stinky, Grace was always gg or curls. And then

(41:26):
Hayes is the dude or little dude. He wants to
be the dude, but he's still little dude or Shug
is is He's actually Samuel Hayes gotlib so he could
we go by sug as well. He's got multi nickname
guy coming up next, Lebron James isn't wrong, isn't wrong.
But I still have a problem with what and how

(41:49):
he said, what and how he said about Magic Johnson
in his latest version of the shop. We'll get to
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(42:12):
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all right, let's let's let's just set all records straight
for a second. Okay. I never had a problem with

(42:36):
Lebron James leaving Cleveland to begin with, so if we
we had dial back, I didn't have a problem with
him leaving. I thought it was much like guy going
off to college, right finishing school. Just my thought was,
he had been in that area his entire life, and

(42:59):
you're ready for a change. He wanted to go and
play with his play with the one of his best friends,
play with the for a reputable owner and a reputable president,
and he wanted to go live somewhere warmer like. It
checks a bunch of boxes for me. It just it
makes complete sense to me anyone who has lived in
one place their entire life and has the opportunity to

(43:23):
go and work with, play play basketball with one of
their best friends. For somebody who's seen as a really,
really good president in a really nice place to live,
you know, a place you've always anytime you've gotten off
a plane in Miami like, man, and I'm not a
big Miami guy, but you get off to play in
Miami and you live in the Midwest, You're like, man,
this is good. This than my bones feel better. It

(43:46):
just does. Like we can be in denial about it.
You can still say you like the seasons. I like
the seasons. California seasons a good one, right, But you
get out the plane in Miami, especially in the winter,
and you're like, man, this awesome. Eighty degrees. It's awesome.
So I didn't have a problem with believing. I just

(44:08):
never liked the fact that, you know, even when you're
raising money, you do it in Connecticut, which was weird,
Like in Grentedge, Connecticut, that they do do you really
need to ridge money in Grande, Connecticut, the richest zip
code in the country, And you just didn't call anybody.
Anyone who's ever been recruited, anyone who's ever been offered,
had multiple job offerings. You call the person that you're

(44:32):
going to work for or who was recruiting you, and
you go, hey, man, it really means a lot. I
really appreciate. I'm gonna pass, but thanks. Lebron didn't do that.
I didn't do that. Now, in his defense, if Lebron
calls Cleveland, even calls Dan Gilbert and tells him, maybe

(44:54):
that story leaks out. Maybe it takes away from the announcement.
If he calls pat Riley, maybe it takes away from
that announcement. And if he calls Dan Gilbert another time,
maybe that takes away from the announce But it's not
the way you do business. It's just not so Lebron.

(45:19):
James has this newest edition of the show, The Shop right,
and this is what Lebron said about Magic Johnson resigning.
I'll find on Randy. Between my stretching session, my right
hand comes to me. I say Magic just stepped down,
and I'm like, man, I got my face you. I'll
go check my phone. I look at it. Personally, for me,

(45:44):
I came here to be a part of the Lakers
organization having a conversation with Magic, so it was just
weird for him to just be like, I'm out of
here and not even have no, like, hey, bron, guess my,
I'm gone. It's not it wasn't even nat um Okay,

(46:08):
I mean, like, look he was. He's clearly upset, and
it doesn't feel good when you invested your life, in
your career in people, and you believe in people and
they let you down and they bail on a project
before the project is finished. I haven't a problem with
being upset, but we do understand that you're being a hypocrite,

(46:28):
right does does anybody think otherwise? You didn't call Dan Gilbert. Now,
it doesn't mean you wanted to stay with Dan Gilbert.
You didn't call Pat Riley when you left Miami a
second time. Hey, Pat, thanks for everything you do. Thanks
for getting us to four NBA finals and building a
team around me and trying to do exactly what you

(46:49):
know I would want. Like, I appreciate it. Thank you.
I'm gonna take my family. But no, no, that that
call didn't take place. So I'm not saying he's wrong
to be upset. You're not. The way in which the
way in which it was done was bizarre, bizarre, and
I'm not sure it affects anything in terms of long
term I like Magic was kind of an empty suit.

(47:11):
I'm sure Lebron saw through it. It was more again,
not that it was done, the timing and the way
it was done, which is the exact same thing as Lebron.
Nobody's really bummed out that Magic Johnson isn't the head
of the Lakers because Magic John's didn't do anything as
ahead of the Lakers. He was total empty suit, complete figurehead.

(47:32):
It has zero effect, zero effect on their coaching search,
on their GM search, on anything. The same can be
said though for Lebron, I didn't have any problem in leaving.
You want to leave your free agent free to go.
That's the way it works, free to go. But but

(48:00):
and this is very very important, but we do see
the hYP hypocracy to it, right and you know, like Lebron,
he's starting to do that Kobe thing where you're throwing
a couple of curse words to draw our attention to it,
But it really didn't say anything in the curse words
to it, like Kobe would do that late in his
career and interviews where he would drop an F bomb

(48:22):
or a BS or something like that, and then it
was almost as if he was daring people to run
that quote on TV to get their attention when there
was nothing really newsworthy of it. He didn't even say
he was mad. He's like, well, at least you could
have called me and said kiss my ass and then
leave or whatever. But like that that that there, there's

(48:43):
there's like a no need for the curse. That's just
like cursing to curse. But the fact is, I don't
think anybody cares. I don't think it bothers Lebron. It's weird.
The timing and the way in which he did it
was super were weird, but Magic Johnson super weird, and

(49:06):
and it's actually not a barbershop when, like other barbershop shows,
nobody calls out Lebron James for being a hypocrite. Hey dude,
hey man, in that like when you left Cleveland, and
then he's like, you're allowed to defend yourself. You know,
he'd be allowed to defend himself and go like, no, man,
totally different. Here's why, here's what happened. Here's how we
handled it. We gave a lead up. They knew or

(49:28):
they didn't know, and they don't have to because my
contract was up. Like okay, this idea that it's a barbershop.
First of all, we know, um, Lebron did not invent
barbershop conversation, but this idea, that's real conversation. Man. This
is real, man, this is real, Just a bunch of
guys talking about real stuff, real stuff, Like all right,

(49:54):
real stuff. You're a hypocrite, real stuff. But what do
you mean, you know, when you're a real barbershop and
real ish is talked, sometimes guys stand up and you know,
bow up and don't like it. This isn't a barber ship.
It should be called the chamber, the echo chamber, Lebron says,

(50:17):
and they U go, Yeah. There's a part where Alonzo
ball was calling out, you know, the guy who supposedly
ran off with some of their money with Big Baller brand,
and he made it out to be a terrible, terrible
look where this dude only started managing their money when
his mom got sick. Well, first of all, his mom

(50:40):
was sick when he was still a player, I believe
in college. I think that's when she had a stroke.
But regardless of which, like, all right, how come none
of that falls in your dad for hiring this guy
who has a shady criminal background of doing these sorts
of things and oh yeah, by the way, there's not one.
Hey man, I get it is bad. That guy ran

(51:00):
off with some money. But didn't you guys buy like
your brother a lambo and he was at U C
l A Like that kind of seems like frivolous spending.
I don't know, Like it's not a barber shop. There's
no even conversation, there's no back and forth, there's no
you know, what you should have done is you should

(51:21):
have bought a Honda Accord and like none of that,
and then he want to have about bad looks. In
the Magic Johnson clip, when Lebron James acts stunned by

(51:41):
the timing and the way in which Magic Johnson bailed
on the Lakers. Then they go to Alonzo Ball, who
kind of mumbles something about he was surprised, he was surprised,
and then he asked, Kyle Kuzma, what are we doing tonight? Right?
Then we'll be doing tonight again, only iterating and reiterating

(52:02):
that Maggie Johnson played zero part of the future of
the Lakers, even though Magic is probably the guy solely
responsible for them drafting Alonzo Ball and Alonzo's inability to
grasp the gravity of any sort of situation, an attachment
and looking like a guy who's nineteen twenty years old

(52:23):
who doesn't get it just yet. Fascinating, all right, Kendrick
Perkins joined the show. Coming next. I want to ask
him about all these different series and games. Why does
he think that Steph Curry is a different guy in
the playoffs from the regular season? Does he think the

(52:44):
Celtics can hop back in this series? And uh, it
sure feels like Yokich is dominating, but will he run
out of gas? And then we'll ask him about Lebron.
If it's Lebron and Tyler, two guys were friends of his,
two guys he played for played with are back together.
Who else do they add? What's the what's the perfect
recipe to fix the Lakers? I'll ask Kendrick Perkins. He

(53:07):
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(53:54):
him on Fox Sports breaking down the playoffs. He's Kendrick
Perkins or Perk as everyone knows him. Joins us on
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are you no? Thanks for having me on? Man, I'm
going with Pleasures online. Uh. Good to see the return
of the big man with uh with your kids dominating

(54:14):
up in Portland for the Denver Nuggets. But I just wonder,
like end of the Spurs series, he ran out of gas.
Four overtime game, he ran out of gas. Longer this
series goes, I don't know, I feel like it actually
ends up favoring Portland. Uh, because we haven't seen a
huge Damian Lillard game, and you think that big guy
might run out of run, out of fuel. What do

(54:35):
you think about? Go ahead, Mike Man, But I don't know, Man,
Deal was tough, Den was tough. Mann. I think both
of those teams, I think, I think both of those
teams are evenly match and I think I think people
Portland in six, but I think this might be going
seven games. Man, I think both of these teams the

(54:55):
Evily match Denvil got good. God played by the way too. Yeah, No,
that's those starts. Game is Dupa breakout games? You feel
like it is. But maybe it's the way in which
they're able to funnel them to yr Ki. Maybe it's uh,
maybe it's the length that they're putting on defensively. Maybe
it's the standard part. I don't, I don't, I don't
really know. Um. All right, let's get to Golden State

(55:17):
taken on Houston another year and we start to hear
the well Steff dis located his finger, the ball goes
through k D too much, He's not able to be himself.
It feels like every year around this time we try
to find reasons why Steff isn't staff. Doesn't it really
get down to how physical the playoffs are and it's
hard for him to play his style of basketball when

(55:39):
the game gets super physical. Well, I think it goes
back to the reason that goes to State when I
was actually recruited Katy was because Steff has done in
the playoffs over the last couple of years. I think
that was the one of the main reasons that they
needed this go the go to guy, that closer, that

(56:02):
that guy who's gonna come in and get them buckets
and crucial times and clutched moments like a Kevin Durant.
So I think that's why Golden State were not and
recruited KDN. This and not all makes sense, completely makes
sense to me, which kind of brings me to the
everyone is acting like it's a foregone conclusion. He goes

(56:22):
to New York. But if all he wanted was championships
and then the respect of being the best guy in
the game, isn't he getting that in Golden State? Why leave? Yeah?
I know why I leave, But I mean, you know,
at the end of the day, different guys. You know,
Katie is very very intelligent. Now, I think you know
he he he thinks things through, and I think you

(56:44):
know right now he's just playing through. He's just living
in the moment, and I think whatever free agency present,
whatever presents yourself in the free agency market, I think
he's gonna do what's best for Katie, which is right.
You know, M can't your purpose go ahead? And I
would love to see him, you know, with his own team,

(57:06):
because you know, still in all at the end of
the day, that's still going to State is still gonna
always be stealth teams. Yeah, no, I I get it,
but it it's it feels like the narrative is shifting
and people are starting to understand his importance to their
team and to their three potentially three championship run. Uh
what about this series? It's two games to one. Steff

(57:26):
still hasn't been himself, Clay hasn't had a Clay game.
Do you think Houston has a chance in this series?
What to be? I don't. I don't honestly think. I
think Go to State gets this game for tonight. And
you know, and then like I keep saying, go to
State have yet to play great, Dad yet to play
great put together a great basketball game. Like you know,

(57:50):
we haven't seen the game where Clay have twenty five,
Steff have thirty, Katie have thirty. We haven't seen that
yet and no he isn't due time to come, and
I think it may come tonight. Like you know, it's
NBA players, you know, we're taught not only to read
the good stuff that you know it's put out about us,
but we we also take note to the bad things

(58:11):
that people are saying. And I expect clay and stuff
to come out on five at night, and I expect
to go to States to play with a little bit more, uh,
to play with a different type of edge, and to
nascyy tonight. And I really do well. I think Houston,
you know, they got some some some great contributions from
Austin Rivers and in Mars Shaper, and even they they

(58:33):
played well off the bench. But still and always Golden
State probably still have still one game three. In my opinion,
I agree with you, you know, I agree that in
spite of all that other stuff, miss calls whatever, still
should have still should with the game, and they didn't.
You claim, mrs A pull up jump shot wide open,
staff missed a couple of laps, even k Katie missed
that last pull up in regulation that could have given

(58:55):
them the lead as well. Kendrick Perkins, NBA Champion, UH
NBA analyst joining us on The Duck Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. What's going so wrong for the Celtics? Well,
I think you know, um, you know, I only take
this one game to change the series. Right now, the
Celtics garden a good then a good situation. They've proven

(59:15):
that they could They already proved that they could win
on the road. They already they took Game one in Milwaukee.
Right now there down to one with a game for
in the Garden. I'm pretty sure, uh, with Brad stevens Man,
a great coach that he is, he's gonna make adjustments.
I'm pretty sure Al Horford and Heywood is gonna give

(59:36):
them much more than what they what they gave in
Game three. Um. And I expect the Celtics to win
game for tonight. Um. Obviously Yanna just playing outside. Is
Yanna just playing beautiful, great basketball right now? But I
expect the Celtics to come out with a chip on
their shoulder. And I don't, I don't, I don't even

(59:58):
know if the game is gonna be close. Kendrick Perkins
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show. All right, So
now you got Joel Embiide, who uh he got he
was sick. He had di verdiculitis. Previously, he's had other injuries. Look,
I think that guy's as talented as anybody who maybe
has ever played basketball at his size. Like his movement.
He can shoot, he can pass, he got a great personality.

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But that the health thing makes me, would make me
really really suspect. On the other hand, you got Ben
Simmons who still can't shoot and hasn't really done much
at all in this series. What's your level? Go ahead,
what's what's your level of confidence in the seventies six years? Well,
I don't. I mean I said this before. Um Saranto

(01:00:40):
is more experienced. They you know Tolanto when they made
the trade for Kauai Limit and then made the trade
mid season for Marcosold. In my mind, that said that
they or speak that their goal is to win the championship. Now, obviously,
uh Philly did a great job and make trades also,

(01:01:01):
but they put together a young nucleus. And I think
Joe ellen beat Um, if he was to lose about
twenty to pounds, it would be scared. It would be
really really scary, man. I think that would help his
body out of a lot like he has to have more, um,

(01:01:21):
he has to be more you know, stricter with his
die you know, stuff like that and stuff like that,
you know, eating right and getting his body way down.
And I think and I think he would be really
really good. Who's complaining? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, let's get
who's complaining in the backgroup, Big Big Perk, one of
the toughest guys in the NBA. Who's complaining in the background?

(01:01:44):
Son or daughter? That is my that's my two year
old son. And he decided to come in here and
sing while I'm on the phone while I'm doing the radio.
And what's what's singing? Uh? Sharp? Do do do? Dude?
I guess that's what it is. I don't know. Yeah,
at least he's not singing that. Uh, what's what's the
what's the new gam everybody's talking about? No, not baby shark?

(01:02:07):
Now that the the ah man. Hold on, I got
on my phone here. My son's like, what's the it's
like the number one song in America, old Town Road.
At least he's not coming in. I gotta take my
horse to the Old Town Road. He starts singing that,
then we gotta Then we have a major problem. There, right, Yeah,
we got gotta got all right, So, uh, your boy

(01:02:27):
Tyler and Lebron appear, uh like they're gonna be back
together in l A. What else would you put around
them if you were in charge? Or who else? Well?
The first thing, right, Okay, C Loui is the right
guy for this situation. You know what I'm saying. He's
the right guy. Is it the perfect situation? No, but

(01:02:49):
he's the guy for the job, not just because he
won with Braun, because he's a hell of a coach,
and he's also a young stood in his coaching. In
my opinion, he's like a baby DC Rivers. I mean,
think about t lou right, He's His regular season record
is three his playoff record is sported. In twenty one,

(01:03:11):
he won the NBA champion He won the NBA Championship
in Cleveland, Bend as a coach being down three one
and listen to this. Though he played with Kobe, he
played with Shaq, he played with Jordan's, he coached Braun,
He was coached by Phil and DC Rivers. So like,

(01:03:31):
you know what other better guys it for the Lakers, jaw.
You know, T lewis the right fit for and I
think with bringing him in, you start, you start with
the right foundation with him at Braun building the foundation,
that's the that's the right fit, and then you just
go from there. If it was you, would you trade
would you trade all the young guys for Anthony Davis? Yes,

(01:03:54):
I would trade those guys. I mean, if you got
a chance to get Anthony Davis, just a no brainer.
I mean come on now, I mean, like, this guy
is special in every way. I mean, you would have
to make that move. It's it's a no break. It's
not even I wouldn't even think twice about it. What
if New Orleans won't do it? Well, I mean, then

(01:04:15):
you gotta roll what you got and then figure it
out from there. Man. You know because still today, I mean,
at the end of the day, the Lakers are still
one of the markets franchises in the league, right and
they still have Lebron James, which is by the way,
arguably one of the best players to ever play the
game of basketball. Now, now he has the keys in

(01:04:38):
his hand being handed to him for the future. So
at the end of the day, is no better platform.
So we knew coming into this that I think Braun
knew going to the Lakers that this season wasn't gonna
be just like you know Peaches then Cream, that it
was gonna be ups and dollars. But I didn't think
you think would be this bad? Right like nobody thought

(01:04:58):
he wouldn't make the playoffs. Well I don't, I don't know.
I think I think he he didn't know what to expect.
He knew it wasn't gonna be easy. Nah, you know,
he never once came out and said the ball or
this season and said, you know, we never but nobody
has grown on rip the saying that he said he
that they were gonna make the playoffs. He said it

(01:05:20):
was it was gonna be a process, you know, you know,
development guys and stuff like this. So I think he
knew what he was getting this stuff into. Kendrick Perkins,
I don't know if you knew what you're getting into
with it with a two year old that that's that's
tougher than any dude you ever guarded or had to
go up to in the n b A. I'm just
you know, because because you've got to be kind and

(01:05:41):
warm and yet firm at the same time. Right, absolutely
absolute perk. Could you catch up man? Thanks? Thanks for
joining us. Hey, thanks thanks man. Pleasures mind Kendrick Perkins
one of the most beloved teammates in the last twenty
years in the NBA and tough dude, be like, why
do they Why I did guys want to have him
on their team. Some of it is street fight, some

(01:06:04):
of it is he just kind of got that way
about you where he puts his arm around you and
tells you the way it is. Here's the way it is,
Young book Like, Okay, here's how this is gonna go.
Here's how this is gonna go. Let's get to one
of the toughest guys in radio. That's Dan Buyer. What
about Anthony Davis to The Sun's do you think about
a package that Phoenix could put together with DeAndre Ayton

(01:06:27):
and Josh Jackson and maybe some other pieces. You'd have
Monty Williams and Phoenix, you would have Devin Booker. I
know it would be a one year test deal. I
floated it yesterday on my show with Nick bah Here
on Fox Sports Radio. I think Phoenix could maybe be
I think the question becomes, you know, do they does

(01:06:48):
Rich Paul pull the card where I ain't gonna do that?
You know, um, Obviously they have a good relationship with
the GM. That's their guy, right, Um, maybe Michael, Look,
let's see what happens to the Celtics, Dave happens with
the Knicks. I don't think the Lakers will be the
only team to go after Anthony Davis and the Lakers

(01:07:10):
are gonna have to do volume because it doesn't appear
to be one guy you know that they that they
would that would match up to a a Jason Tatum
for example, Tatum becomes available, I think I think eighton
while not maybe the ceiling of a Tatum, but I
think that could be a good piece. We'll we'll see
a bunch of a bunch of things to happen. Bucks
and Celtics seven o'clock Eastern time tonight in their game four.

(01:07:32):
Celtics worried about that, but they could be getting Marcus
Smart back. He's considered questionable for tonight's game. Milwaukee up
to one. Warriors and Rockets nine thirty Eastern time in
their game for tonight. Warriors are up to one. Reports
say that Rockets center and they could be playing his
last season in the NBA. Red stop the Giants today
twelve to four, while the Angels will likely activate show

(01:07:53):
Hey Otani to be there designated hitter as soon as
tomorrow against the Tigers. He's still rabbing his rehabbing his
elbow injury. Red Sox place picture is gonna play. Yes,
be there designated hitter. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean that's awesome.
Right to have to not be able to throw but
still get used out of him and he's a very
good hitter. That's incredible. Yeah, it could happen as soon

(01:08:15):
as tomorrow. Maximum Security not gonna run in the Preakness.
In fact, his owners said today on the Today's Show
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the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission. The Boston Bruins take on
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The other game six tonight in the Stanley Cup Playoffs
are the Avalanche, home to the Shark San Jose won't have.
Joe Pavelski tonight did take part in the morning skate.
He was knocked out in that Game seven against the Vega.

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Pavelski a former Badger from Steven's Point, Steven's Point, Wisconsin.
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What's wrong with the Celtics now? Perks says, like Celtics

(01:09:40):
will be fine, And as much as I would like
to put things at the feet of Jayson Tatum, I
will not. They're not all his fault. Kyrie Irving shooting
in games two and three from the field twenty three
from three, Gordon Hayward field goal percentage when he's been bad,

(01:10:02):
Celtics have been bad. They're gonna add in Marcus Smart,
who doesn't give him shooting, but does give him defense, toughness,
and shot making in the playoffs. But it should be
pointed out that while we all rushed to say how
awesome Jason Tatum could eventually be, I felt like I
was the only one who pointed out that Jason Tatum
is not yet that awesome, that he has had these

(01:10:22):
ups and these downs, and the ad lacked consistency case
some point. Through three games against the Bucks in this series,
he hasn't made a three. He's averaging under ten points
a game shooting from the field. Like the Celtics won
the draft two years ago, right when they trade away
the number one pick and at three they got Jason Tatum,

(01:10:44):
who's a far and away better player. Maybe they didn't
get it became Donovan Mitchell, but Donov Mitchell might have
been not become down of Mitchell with all the guards
that they had. Fair sure, um, but here's Tatum and

(01:11:05):
it's not like he's doing a great job on Janice
when he gets matched up there, and it's not like
he's a dynamic offensive player and he's not opening up
and stretching out the floor for Kyrie to get to
the basket. And as much as we want to point
out that when the Celtics to play poorly, Kyrie plays poorly,
Kyrie would play better if he had more space, if

(01:11:27):
he had more shooting. And when Gordon Haywards getting these
minutes and he's ineffective, and so is Jason Tatum, this
is what you got. You know, we Tatum is. Tatum
is living off of reputation, and he's the reputation was
established because the Celtics got the better pick in the draft.

(01:11:50):
They made the smarter move, they traded down and got
the better player. Mark El Folts isn't even playing in
the NBA. Jason Tatum is starting in the NBA playoffs,
and he's coming off of a great year last year
in the playoffs. But because of the playoffs last year,
we lost the fact that the only average fourteen game.
You know, there are holes in his game and that

(01:12:13):
great shot, shot decision making at times in his game.
He's not perfect, and he's still very young, and he
is not the go to guy. But to be an
ancillary part, you have to shoot a better percentage against
better defense. And much like the argument I made about
Steph Curry. Look at the different sport in the playoffs,

(01:12:34):
just is it's a different Eastern Conference this year. Now
they're playing against the team with the best record in
the NBA, who's a tremendous defensive team that they had
the best The Bucks had the best defensive numbers over
an eighty two game season for a reason, because they're
really good. Look, I still think the Celtics who win

(01:12:57):
the series, they win to night. I think they can
win in game Game five. They go in this thing
in six. It's you know that they've had a couple
of terrible third quarters, but we have already kind of
cemented in our minds who players are before they actually
play the game. And no guy is that more prominent
for than Jayson Tatum. Yes, rhyme, would you say that,

(01:13:20):
just based off of what had happened last year and
the fact that they have Kyrie Irving on their roster,
that it would be more of a disappointment if the
Celtics lost this playoff series as opposed to the Bucks,
even though really based off of the regular season and
you know all of the numbers, you would think that
the team being the number one overall seed with the

(01:13:41):
you know potential. We don't necessarily know who has won
the m v P, but we all think it's probably honest.
Losing in the second round, that's what you would you
would think just would be more disappointing. But I think
a lot of people would say the Celtics, and where
they're at and who they have on their roster, would
probably be more disappointed in this in this loss. Agree,

(01:14:02):
I totally agree with you, you know, could not possibly
agree with you anymore. If the Celtics lose this series,
it will be seen as a confirmation that Kyrie is
not a winning player, a disappointment because they didn't get
back to where they were last year when last year
the Eastern Conference wasn't as good. They didn't have to

(01:14:23):
play the best team, the Toronto Raptors. They didn't played
the Toronto Raptors. They played the Philadelphia seventy six years
who may not get past the Raptors this year. So yes,
I would completely and thoroughly and totally agree with that idea.
Colin Coward, for some weird reason, doesn't think Kawhi Leonard

(01:14:45):
is that valuable. I'll tell you why. This is where
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Doug Otlive Show rolls on Fox Sports Radio. I think
I've heard this song more than any other song. It's
like our little youth baseball teams theme song. Then they're
playing on Saturday and the other team was singing this
and they're like, hey, that's our song, Like it's kind
of everybody's song. That'sn't really that really what it's like.

(01:15:49):
Texas Tech used it in the way of the Final four,
but it's still not even their song and it's only
a minute fifty three seconds long. That's so short. Well,
there's not a lot to it. There's not there's there's
no like rapping kind of verse to it or whatever.
It's just but whatever. And the return of Billy Ray
Cyrus cyrus um and then Alias de Basy sing is

(01:16:12):
the is the chorus, So yeah um every day this
time that dog got the show. We like to play
for you a portion of an earlier show on Fox
Sports Won or Fox Sports Radio. We call it. This
was Colin Cowherd on Kawhi Leonard. If you're talented, you're valuable,

(01:16:34):
and if you're productive, you're valuable. But not all the time.
Kawhi Leonards talented and he's productive. Everybody's talking about him
this morning being the second best player in the NBA
to Kevin Durant. He's not that valuable. Toronto was seventeen
and five when he didn't play. He doesn't communicate, he
doesn't pass, he doesn't elevate others. Lebron James leaves a

(01:16:56):
franchise and they disintegrate the next day. Pat Riley, Eric
Spoelstrom Miami Awful, Great awful twice in Cleveland Finals, Finals,
Pole we're awful. Lebron gets hurt with the Lakers. At
the end of the year, they were the worst team
in the league. They were losing to teams like Phoenix
in New York. That we're tanking. Lebron's great, talented, productive

(01:17:20):
and bizarrely valuable. Kauai is just really talented and damn
he's productive. How valuable is he? Toronto made the playoffs
last year. Toronto was the number one seed last year.
Toronto last year in the regular season was fifty eight
and twenty four, and then Kauai came and they were

(01:17:41):
fifty nine and twenty three. I don't even know what
he's talking about. Like, remember those teams that um Collins
said the Lakers were losing to at the end of
the year. Lebron was playing when they lost to those teams.
They lost the Hawks before the All Star Break. He
played in that game. They ust the Memphis Grizzlies, who
were taking He played in that game. Um he he

(01:18:06):
lost to the Phoenix Suns. He played in that game.
I'm not going to sit here and tell you that
Lebron is not crazy valuable. It doesn't make everybody else better,
But look what you what we can't do is we
can't sit here and live and die by stats. We
just can't sure he only averages three point three assists

(01:18:28):
per game, He's savaging twenty six and a half points
per game. He's shooting at a high clip. He's shooting
threes at a high clip. He defends the other team's
best player. He can defend any position on the floor.
And while you can sit here and tell me how
good Toronto was previously, we all knew Toronto was going

(01:18:50):
to collapse like a cheap pup tent anytime they faced
legit competition because they didn't have what he provides. Not
only was the ease the finals m v P, he
could have wanted two years a row if the Spurs
hadn't completely choked and ray all and hadn't hit that
three right like we so quickly forget that a couple
of mis free throws and a ray Allen three point shot. Otherwise,

(01:19:14):
Kawhi Letterards a two time NBA Finals MVP, a two
time champion. So and he's twenty seven years old. If
he's not valuable, I don't really know what is. But
what what we've done is we become so stat driven,
so well maybe if he average more assists, he's not

(01:19:34):
a great pastor. Y also doesn't turn the ball over.
If you look at his stats defensively, like well point
four blocks per game, what's the big deal? One point
eight steals per game, that's pretty good, But what's the
like steels aren't indicative always of great defensive players. Neither
blocks are great shot blockers. That doesn't mean you're a

(01:19:54):
great defensive potmans you're a great shop blocker. He's aid
Ben Simmons looked like a guy who shouldn't be a
starting point guard in the NBA. Ben Simmons can't get
to the rim. And when he can't get to the rim,
he can't create for other people. And Ben Simmons hasn't
gotten to the free throw line. And it's all because

(01:20:15):
Kawhi Leonards got him in check. I don't know what
more you want him to do. But if you don't
think he's valuable, the league tells me he's the second
and third best player in the league. Yeah, we need
to do a better job of spending more time actually
watching games instead of going through stats to research the

(01:20:36):
statistical dominance of it. I did a podcast and uh,
this is last week I had Jamie and Christian's new
coach of George Washington on my All Ball podcast. Week before,
I had Luke Murray lucas an assistant. That's Bill Murray's son,
Luke Murray's assistant, really good one at Louisville UM. And
he brought a great point. He's like, look, if we
go by stats, Russell Westbrook's the best player in the

(01:20:58):
history of the NBA because for the last thirty years,
nobody's average of trouble double. He's done three straight years.
So something tells me that the stats don't necessarily equate
to greatness. And no one's better at pointing that out
than Kawhi Leonard, you know, to average twenty five a
game on the Spurs when they just that only happens

(01:21:21):
when you're a superstar. Remember they trade away an All
Star to get him for one year of Kawhi Leonard,
What is your worth? What is your value? He will
get a max contract. He will be the franchise changer
for whomever wherever he goes. And no, he might not
be the emotional leader. He doesn't have to be. He's

(01:21:45):
he leads by example, which is what I'm told is
the best way to lead and he plays better in
the biggest of situations, which is is that what we
ask of star players? I would think I mean a
ridiculously efficient player who has become a very good three
point shooter, and he's averaging thirty two points per game

(01:22:08):
in the playoffs while shooting fifty eight point seven percent
from two from three. This is free throw shooting. Is
at not bad? That's not good enough. Steph Curry Roins.
You have Peyton Manning, I'll tell you how. Not long neck,
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guys remember uh Peyton Manning in the playoffs? Right? Peyton
Manning was famous for his inadequacies in the playoffs right,

(01:23:14):
is that is that a fair to those of us
who lived through the Peyton Manning era. He finished I believe,
just above five hundred in terms of his playoff record.
And here's Peyton Manning who was an incredible quarterback, incredible quarterback,
but became, you know, in comparison, mediocre in the playoffs.

(01:23:37):
And when you sit there and go like, well, mediocre,
mediocre has a very negative connotation. And to Peyton Manning,
considering he was extraordinary in the regular season, it's rightfully so.
But mediocre means average. That that's what actually means. And
he became an average quarterback in the playoffs, right. And

(01:23:58):
the reason that he became game average was frankly, because
the game became so physical. For his wide receivers. Peyton
Manning's offense was seen as a timing based offense. Right.
He knew where everyone was supposed to be and where
that when they were supposed to be there. And because

(01:24:21):
he had, you know, he completely understood all of his
wide receivers, the wind, temperature, direction, inflation of the ball,
like everything all calculated. Peyman's career record in the playoffs
is fourteen and thirteen. Career record, pretty amazing, right, he's

(01:24:46):
now he went out winning a Super Bowl, so that
was his last game. Put him above five. And in
that game he was awful. So and for that season
he actually got pulled. He was nine touchdowns seventeen interceptions.
In the season. He went three and oh In his
last year with the Denver Broncos as their quarterback to
win a Super Bowl. He threw for five thirty nine

(01:25:09):
yards in three games. You do the math, completing fifty
five point four percent of his passes. Does that sound
like anything heroic? And I'm not trying to sit here
and tell you that Peyton Manning wasn't great in the
regular season. His overall regular season record was one eight,
six and seventy nine. His postseason record was fourteen and thirteen.

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In the regular season, he completed sixty five point three
percent of his passes his touchdown to interception ratio for
his career. For his career, he had five nine touchdowns
two one interceptions. That's over two to one. In the playoffs.

(01:25:58):
In the playoffs, well quite different, forty touchdowns twenty five
interceptions for his career. So you can sit here and
tell me that it's the same guy, but it's not.
And it's not because Peyton Manning changed. It's not because
the pressure got to him. It was, frankly, you know, honestly,

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because of the defense, because the physicality of the defense
that took them away, took him away from who he
was and took them away from what they did. Now,
look at Steph Curry. Steph Curry in the regular season
has been magnificent, magnificent and over the last five years,

(01:26:44):
last five years, he averaged twenty four, thirty six, and
twenty seven points per game. In the playoffs. Oh yeah,
by the way, while shooting, you know, fifty seven fifty
percent from two, let alone forty to forty six from three,

(01:27:08):
and the playoffs has been very different. It's been very
different the playoffs. Steph Curry not just a guy. Still
averages a bunch of points, but far more turnovers, far
fewer assists, and more than anything. We've just we've seen
these struggles before last year against Houston, you know, the

(01:27:31):
year before, he was hurt. And every year it's it's
Steph hurt. Remember even when they were trailing um the
Oklahoma City Thunder, it was Steph must be hurt. If
Steph doesn't make shots he's got to be hurt. If
Steph can't get open, he's got to be hurt. If
Steph doesn't score, he's got to be hurt, or he's
got to be tired. When they won seventy three games,

(01:27:54):
he got to the playoffs, they weren't that good, and
everybody wants to say, well, you know, he went forward,
and maybe it is. Maybe it was that they went
forward in the regular season, or maybe quite possibly it's
that postseason sports is far more physical, the officiating is

(01:28:14):
far different, and so the performance isn't going to be
as good for a guy who who thrives on finesse,
play on the ability to have a freedom of movement. Now,
go back to the year that they won seventy three games,

(01:28:34):
go check it out. And when you see it, then
you look at what Steph Curry did in the playoffs,
you're like, wow, wait a second, hold on. That Golden
State Warriors team was incredible, and staff was the reason
they were incredible. He was the unanimous m v P
un Animals two thousand fifteen, two thousand and sixteen, right,

(01:29:00):
But also look at Steph Curry during that same run,
and he'll be like, wow, that kind of looks like
this year where early on the playoffs there were a
lot of struggles and he even struggled against Cleveland late
in the playoffs. And do you think that it's pressure.
I don't. I don't think that he's he's missing so
many shots because of pressure. I think I'm sure he's

(01:29:21):
a little banged up, he's a little tired, and the
defense is a lot more physical, and he's somebody who
thrives on much. You know, it's a lot like Ben
Simmons in a different way. Like you sit there and
go like, why isn't Ben Simmons any good? Well, because
you have to play in the half court in the playoffs.
Steph Curry has to play in the half court in
the playoffs, and they're not as effective, freewheeling, open, not

(01:29:42):
able to touch anybody, much tighter officiating that's the regular season.
In the playoffs that gets slowed down. He gets to
a slog and you need a guy who can get
you a bucket over over a defense that might be value. Hey,
we had Kendrick Perkins on and he said what I've
been saying for a long time. You know, there's a

(01:30:04):
reason that the Warriors won seventy three games and went
out and got Kevin Durant. They needed him. They needed
a guy who just go get a bucket. The same
reason the Raptors, who won more games in the regular
season last year than anybody, needed Kawhi Leonard. They need
somebody to go get them a bucket. It's the hardest
thing to do in sports, is can you go get

(01:30:24):
a bucket when everyone knows you're the one that they're
going to to go get a bucket and the defense
is so physical that you're gonna have to do it
with a defender draped all over you. It doesn't mean
that steph can't do it. That ultimately he won't make shots,
he won't have impactful games, but he's not the same
completely and thoroughly dominating player that he is in the

(01:30:45):
regular season in the postseason. And I honestly think the
officiating and the style officiating the playoffs is the big
reason why. And it's the same thing with Peyton Manning,
same thing we say about James Harden, Like, dude, you're
not gonna get all those calls get in the postseason
in the regular like you do in the regular season.
Didn't I just say that last week leads the world

(01:31:09):
in UH free throw attempts. Still getting a lot of
free throw attempts, but not as many. He had three
times as many times he was fouled on a three
point shot compared to anybody else in the NBA. Still
getting He still got a call in Game three, but
not the volume of calls. Why the games officiated differently?

(01:31:32):
It always has been, and my guess is it likely
always will be. And it benefits guys who can make
shots under duress, under physicality, against guys that sometimes are
actually following you, and it's not being called. This is

(01:31:53):
not a referendum on pay Manning is really not that good.
Steph Curry is not really that good. It's there's a
difference in style and fluidity and finesse goes out the
window once you get to the playoffs. It's that way. Look,
this is Clayton Kershaw right. Is it fatigue? Sure? But

(01:32:17):
Greg Maddox the strike zone Titans, you don't get the
benefit of the doubt. They wear you down, they run
up your pitch total, they get you to you in
the seventh as well as the fact that your own
hitters are under much more pressure to get hits to
give you run support. The playoffs are just different than

(01:32:39):
the regular season. I'm not telling you anything you didn't know.
And sometimes it's the way in which the game is
officiated that plays the biggest factor as to why. That's
what happened to Greg Maddox in the Atlanta Braves. That's
what's happened to Peyton man That's down to Peyton manning
with both the Colts and the Broncos. And that's what's
happened to Steph Curry. All right, Bill Oram joins the show.
Upcoming next, Bill covers the Lakers for the Athletic What

(01:33:05):
does he make of Lebron's comments about Magic and the
way in which he left the organization, Plus Magic popping
up on social media having dinner with Genie like they're
just best buddies. After that story about emails that he
was blind Sea seed on kind of calling out his
lack of work ethic. Plus is Tyler their next head coach?

(01:33:26):
And if he is, are they completely getting the band
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O R A M and Bill, I'm I'm sure you
saw it, Um, A lot of people have seen clips
of it. Lebron James Show the Shop the latest edition,

(01:34:31):
by the way breakthrough, first Laker to appear on the show,
and that Laker was a Lonzo ball Um. I want
to get to other stuff, But what should we take
from the fact Glean from the fact that the first
Laker on his show was a Lonzo Ball. Yeah, I
don't I don't know. I don't know if that's that's
super telling or not. I guess they just do. It
was interesting, Um, Lonzo Ball became a kind of a

(01:34:54):
free and eight A representation free agent when he parted
with the agent that he had had kind of through
his dad previously and and hired new representation. But he
didn't go with Clutch Sports or anything like that, like
Davey thought. Rich Paul might have tried to get in there,
but he ended up with Julius Randall's agent, Aaron Ment
at c A A. So I don't I don't know

(01:35:14):
necessarily kind of what the partnerships sing Lebron and Lonzo
look like going forward, But we know Lebron has taken
Alonzo under his wing and has talked a lot over
the past year. They've been together about seeing some of
themselves in a Lonzo obviously a Homehoun kid drafted into
impossible situations to the hometown team Lebron in Cleveland and
longso here. So do you think there's a little bit
of kinship in that regard? What do you take of

(01:35:36):
Lebron's comments about when Magic left not super surprising, but
but but just I think just kind of stunning in
terms of how cale candid it was. And obviously every
everyone was surprised. So for him to say he was
surprised by it was not at all surprising, but to
but to hear kind of like what he took from
it and the fact that he felt kind of personally

(01:35:58):
betrayed by it, we might have a ma I didn't
was the taste, but to hear him say it in
such frank terms, I thought was was pretty Um was
pretty telling. And for him and for him to say, um,
you know that it was a good reminder made Johnson
was the one guy who sat down and talked to
Lebron on June thirtieth last year before he agreed to
come to the Lakers. That was the guy that Lebron

(01:36:18):
had the relationship with, and and for him to suddenly depart,
not even make the phone call that you know, hey,
I'm gonna be out of here, I'm gonna do something else, Um,
it was pretty clear that stung. And that's why I think,
you know, Lebron pushed back on the report um from
from statement in the ESPN weeks ago that the Lebron's
relationship with the Lakers was damaged. But how could it

(01:36:39):
not be, Obviously when you have the one guy who you,
um kind of put your faith in when you decided
to come play here, Uh, you know, run out on you.
It's just to me it was a you know, a
stunning situation for everybody, but especially with Bron James, who
took a pretty big leap of faith to this organization
that hadn't hadn't proven um that it really knew what

(01:37:01):
it was doing. Yet I mean, Lebron to a leap
of faith and then um, no quit on him? Uh
is there any I Look, he has every right to
be upset, and I know people in that organization, they
were all everybody was stunned by it. Right. And on
the other hand, there's a little bit of Lebron not
telling anybody where he's going back when he was a

(01:37:23):
free agent. Right. There is as certain do as I say,
not as I do to it, isn't there. Yeah. My
colleague Frank can Solo just pointed that out actually in
the feast kind of going back to the decision in
two thousand and ten, when when Lebron left the city
of Cleveland hanging the first time, especially right before he
went back on a title um and and had the
had the decision on live TV and then just kind
of left everyone in in Cleveland reeling. So there may

(01:37:47):
be a bit of an irony there. But I think
in this situation, especially where um, you know, Lebron came
to l a needing somebody to trust, somebody to kind
of work with and collaborate with, and that person is gone,
and I think, um kind of that context helps sell
the idea of Tylu as the head coach for the Lakers,
and not that that Lebron is making the decisions necessarily,

(01:38:09):
but when you have somebody like Lebron who's going to
have a powerful voice, whose presence is going to be
so routinely felt, um, you know, for him to have
kind of that that person that he shares a connection with,
where there is a strength and a bond um is
really important and so uh kind of to move towards
that Tyler thing. Um, I do think that that kind

(01:38:30):
of helps the Lakers get a little bit of stability,
if it's not at the very very top, at least
in that really important relationships from new player and coach,
and maybe that relationship would have resolved over time between
player and executive. With Lebron and Magic, We'll just never know.
Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice
of Bill orm He worked for the Athletic he covers
the l A Lakers. So it appears as a formality

(01:38:54):
that Tyler will now be their head coach. Um with
that in mind, you've got Lebron and Lu, how's the
decision making in terms of reshaping this roster going to
take place? Well? I would I would imagine that these
are the questions that TYLERU had for the Lakers going
through the interview process, where it was, you know what
kind of roster we're gonna be putting around Lebron. I

(01:39:15):
have done this, you know, four four separate times. You know,
can we can we collaborate on this roster? And what
did you learn from last year? I would I would
be I would very much expect that Rob Polinka, having
learned from the mistake that was last year, perhaps the
hubris of thinking you could re you could reinvent how
to build a team around Lebron. James One has just

(01:39:36):
learned that lesson on his own and has a better
sense of how to kind of, um course correct. But
also we'll listen to a guy like tylu Uh, like
you said, barring unforeseen circumstances, who becoming the coach um
and and really kind of come up with the right
the right roster. And it's it's it's as it's as
important as ever. It's it's not more so considering in
fact lebron Goa turned thirty five next year, and not

(01:39:59):
that he doesn't have years of basketball left in him.
I think he shows this year that he certainly does.
But you just are running out of chances to really
really get it right, and so that makes this season,
um all that much more important. I agree with you.
I mean, like, look, yeah, the the like if Merissa
Tomay had a biological clock, right, he's got a he's
got a basketball clock in his ticking. And even if

(01:40:20):
he gets a little bit of extra time on that
clock because they didn't make the playoffs to kind of
recharge his body, at the end of the day, he's
still gonna be mid thirties with a lot of tread
off those tires, right yeah. And I think and I
think that that's something that people forget with Lebron names
because he does this, he's done this at such a
high level for so long, and and then you know,
the injury this year obviously kind of um raised questions

(01:40:42):
about what his durability is going to look like once
he gets to his late thirties. But the bottom line is,
like you said, nobody's gonna do this forever and and
at some point he's going to need a team around
him that can can reduce that strain and reduce that workload.
And so um, whether that's stylistically or just as simple,
is getting another superstar. The Lakers need to start that
process pretty darn quick. And you know, people people um

(01:41:06):
grimace when I say it, But I mean last year
was was was Lebron's age thirty four season, and that
was the year um, and that was the year Kobe
Bryant obviously towards his his achilles a different situation, but
we saw Lebron's first really significant injury. You know, Kobe
never made the playoffs again after thirty four, and these
they are different players, There are different bodies, they have
different miles by the time they got to that age.

(01:41:27):
But it's just hard once you reach a certain a
certain threshold um to to really keep playing at that
same level. Okay, so Anthony Davis is the name that
comes to mind. You know, it was the trade that
almost happened, or maybe almost didn't happen. I like it.
What's the likelihood that's on the table. You got David Griffin,
who's a friend of court. Um, what what? What are

(01:41:49):
your thoughts on the possibility of making that move for
Anthony Davis. I just think it's it's I lest think
it's a whole new scenario. And then it was in February.
You have you have two front offices that have been
pretty dramatically reshaped. I think the Lakers front office will
still look different by the time they get around to
UM making deals, whether that is, you know, different people
being empowered to make the phone calls, or whether the

(01:42:09):
Lakers bring in an assistant GM the Rob Polinka UM,
I think that. I think that the idea of a
president basketball operations is not really on the agenda right now.
So I think it's gonna be Rob Polinka, who didn't know,
as we know, wasn't really allowed to have a voice
UM during the during the Anthony talks, Davis talks the
first time that the Pelicans weren't interested in dealing with
Rob Polinka. That's gonna be a different scenario now, is

(01:42:30):
David Griffin. The Lakers have more pieces to offer, obviously,
with with a lottery pick to include in a deal.
So I think I think they're starting ground zero. I
just don't know. UM. I still just am not convinced
that the Pelicans aren't that we aren't going to find
a better offer elsewhere. UM, But I think that is
that is still the most important and most probably the
Laker's best path adding another superstar, because when you look

(01:42:52):
at the property the agents this summer, I just remain
unconvinced that any of those guys are are going to
see the Lakers as there as anything other than a
second or the best opportunity. Why, right, if if if
one holds true the other, If Lebron is so good
and so dynamic and so giving of the basketball in
his time, and you know, and the franchise needs another superstar,

(01:43:16):
and you have a coach who's want to be a championship,
why wouldn't one of these guys want to come play
with him? Because because I think I think the Kevin
Durant comments from November holds true. And the and the
the amount of UM not in game drama, but the
locker room drama, and the and the external circus that
comes with playing with Lebron does where every single movement

(01:43:37):
becomes a news story. And you're doing it now in
Los Angeles where the scrutiny is that much more heightened. UM.
It's and and you're doing it to still be the
number two. Even if you're the best player on the floor,
You're still the number two as long as Lebron is there.
And that's, you know, the same as it was UM. Again,
to go back to Toby, if the Lakers had the
Lakers had managed to add let's say, Carmelo Anthony back

(01:43:57):
in two thousands fourteen, um mellow would have been the
Lakers best player as Kobe was kind of fighting his
way through his late career injuries. But it still as
in Kobe's team. And that's something that I think all
these superstars who are UM hitting the markets this summer
are going to look at and it's do I want
to be the number two to a guy who is UM,
you know, as powerful as of a presence as we

(01:44:19):
as exists in modern sports. UM even if I'm you know,
the best player on the team as as he gets older,
and I think that that's a um analysis that you know,
the Lakers don't come out on the positive end of
what most likely, It's gonna be fascinating to see what
what takes place. By the way, what did you make
of the social media posting with with Magic having dinner

(01:44:41):
with Genie. I think that was going back to Friday night. Yeah,
I just think it's all I think it's all super orchestrated, right,
I mean, the Lakers want to show that they are
not um, that they are not in turmoil and chaos.
And while Magic Johnson is no longer uh an employee
of the Lakers, as he likes to remind us with
another tweet about a player somewhere in the NBA every

(01:45:01):
ten minutes, um that relationship. If there was a fracture
between the Genie Buss and Magic Johnson relationship, it would
just speak to issues within the organization that not even
this close close friendship could survive the infighting and backstabbing
of the Lakers. Well, they kind of came out on
the offensive and both tweeted um family forever, Lakers forever.

(01:45:22):
You know, we're fine, which I think is meant to
sort of send a message that the Lakers are stable also,
and um, you know, I think I think it remains
to be seen whether or not that's true. Um, you know,
I thought the coaching search was not was not the
cleanest process. Uh, the Lakers waited around to kind of
let the Sun's guide that process and dictate what was

(01:45:42):
gonna happen with Monty Williams. And so now we'll not
We will never know whether or not Tylou was actually
their first choice. We won't know if if if he
was the guy they had decided on in their process,
or if they simply ended up defaulting to him. So
I think the Lakers still a long ways to go. Um,
even if they're trying to they're trying to put out
put forth the base that they are, that they are
all together. It's it's it's gonna be fast to see

(01:46:04):
how it plays at If they if they give away
everything in the kitchen Saint to get Anthony Davis, what
then do they surround Lebron James with? Uh? Will people
do business with them? Or will will the Pelicans even
do business with him? It's gonna be fastness Bill Army
Rights for the Athletic follow them on Twitter as well. Bill,
great work, Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks pleasures mind.
Let's get you to Dan Buyer at the anniversary. Dan Buyer,

(01:46:26):
what you got? Thank you very much. Doug. Celtics are
gonna get Marcus Smart back tonight. He's been activated and
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Warriors and Rockets nine thirty Eastern tom Warriors are up
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(01:46:46):
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(01:47:09):
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Reds radio network, they would top the Giants today twelve
to four, but after a twenty minute delay, because of bees.
Braves pitcher Kevin Gosman suspended five games by Major League
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(01:47:30):
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Het Um Dan, Yes, do there were bees in Cincinnati? Yeah,
you know we've seen this before at various ballparks of
the Donna and Anaheim. It's happened where you just get

(01:48:11):
a swarm of bees in one spot, but there was
about a twenty minute delay, so they get the to
get the bees out of the way in Cincinnati, dodging
beach and smel f. Hear that, Jerry McGuire, alright, um,
human headways eight pounds. Uh are you scared of bees?
You see a bee? Do you freak out? No? But

(01:48:32):
I don't want to get stung. Nobody wants to get stunned.
Nobody goes this. Bees remind me in many ways of
of guys talking about They used to say, like Lebron James,
Oh he's he couldn't play football, he wouldn't want to
get hit. Like nobody's like, dude, I can't wait to
get all right. There's not a single guy goes like,
you know what I want to do today? I want
get your hold. That's what I want to do. Um.

(01:48:54):
But there are some people that the second they see
a bee, they break out, break out, And there are
some people that are much more comfortable. And I just
went with wonder whish which one you were? I am not.
I don't freak out, just kind of try to shoot
it away. I think. I know, you know, you're not
supposed to make a lot of movements and noise, Just
you know, shoot it away and gobout wasps. I have

(01:49:16):
been stung by a wasp before. Yes, yes, I felt bad.
One time we were in Connecticut and my son was
baseballs or golf balls or something in our backyard. We
had like this. We had like a lacrosse net that
the previous owners left behind. We're like whacking golf balls
into it, went through it and went to the neighbor's
house and I think I told him like not to
do it or something like that, and sure enough he did.

(01:49:38):
It goes over. So he's got to go like around
this fence and he stepped on I think I think
as it washp for horn, something that lives on the ground,
and he got He got stung up a little bit
that was nasty. Got like three or four things and
that was that was bad. Then when my daughters were
two or three, we went to this little little petting
zoo and my daughter got stung on the face, right

(01:49:59):
on the cheek. You know. She had these perfect little
cheeks and she buzz buzz, goes to be yeah, but
I mean, like, look, first face music. Are you freaked
out by bees? The bees freak you out? No, I'm
more along the lines of Dan when you learned that

(01:50:20):
the more you try to shoot them away and make motions,
then they're gonna be more likely to sting you. So
you're just kind of trying to all right, It's one
of those things. That's easy to say, but you know
what I mean, but hard to actually do. They like,
don't freak out, don't freak out, don't freak out? What
do you do? You freak out? No, I'm I'm not

(01:50:41):
not all that bothered by them. What about what about spiders? No,
my my, my kids hate spiders. Like freaked out by spiders? YEA,
spiders don't really bother me. I don't like them. Don't
get on there. But spiders also eat other bugs that
sailor and I enjoy about a good spiders. I eat
the buck um. Golden States not not eating their own

(01:51:05):
as of yet. But I did see this from Ajian
Wardsnowski listen Doug Otlips show on Fox Sports Radio. Internally
in Golden State, there's a sense of let's try and
put aside what's coming in July. We have a chance
to do something very rare in sports, to three peple.
Let's try to put our focus there, win the title,
and let July play out the way it's going to.
But I think the Warriors are bracing for possibly seismic

(01:51:30):
change within the organization. I don't know if there's a
lot of talking that has to happen between the Warriors
and Kevin Durant. I think he knows what it is,
what he wants, and there may be nothing the Warriors
can do to see that change. If they come up
with a five year, one ninety million dollar MAX deal
for Clay Thompson that's done on July one, he's going

(01:51:54):
into a new building with Steph Curry. If they try
to do anything less than that, you can expect Klay
Thompson to be out in free agency. Watch not for
the Lakers, but then for the Clippers. Mhm, mhm. I
think it's interesting. The whole thing is fascinating that we're

(01:52:14):
acting as if it's already done, and maybe it is
already done. And then if you play those two guys
the max, do you have to pay Draymond the max
next year? What do you? How do you do that there?
So I just it it's going to be interesting. Do
they do The Warriors kind of say arrogantly, like, hey,

(01:52:35):
you know what, we won our away before we had KD.
We can win our way again. But I would caution
them because that's kind of what Lebron's gonna try and say, Right,
I've won my way before I can win my way again.
But it's different when you're thirty five, and it's different
when the league has adjusted and plays your style more now.

(01:53:00):
And then you factor in the fact that neither Clay
or Staff has played all that great as of yet.
I don't think that matters, Like in terms of do
you want them but or do you want them to
the do you want three max guys being those three
and watch Kevin Durant go elsewhere be good for the league?
I don't think it's smart for k D. I just

(01:53:21):
don't understand the I don't I just don't understand the
thinking with these guys. I don't want the pressure of
playing for the Lakers, but instead I'll take the pressure
of playing for the Knicks, right like that? Has anybody
been to New York during basketball season when there's hype
to start a season. It's not a fun place when

(01:53:42):
they're not winning. Now, New York is an amazing but
if you make a ton of money, it's an amazing place.
But it's more amazing than San Francisco playing with great teammates.
I just I don't understand. That's one I will never understand.
I think I understand most of these moves that one
don't understand, like you even understand Kawhi Leonard say they

(01:54:04):
win a championships like it's in a different country. Not
only is it not the climate that he wants, it's
not the country he wants, Like, okay, that one I
can see, but the idea that Kevin Durant's in an
incredible city. They're moving to a new arena inside that city.

(01:54:26):
It's the home of Silicon Valley. You're on a championship
roster with a team with a coach who has done
everything in his power to make you feel comfortable. And oh, yeah,
by the way, they've won a title every year he's
been there, and they might win it again, and you're like, yeah,
I want more. I don't know that. That's just the
sign of a guy chasing after something that he's never
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(01:54:53):
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you the opinions you could count on. We call it
the press. The Press, Dan Byrol, what do you got?
My friend Marcus Smart back with the Celtics tonight. He's
been cleared to return from his oblique injury. He'll play
against the Bucks in Game four that starts in an
hour and fifteen minutes. Be like, I'm gonna go with

(01:55:59):
the US again tonight. I didn't think that they would
win Game three, but I'm going with Milwaukee against taking
commanding three games to one. League. I did pick him
with five. Doug, Yeah, uh, well do you like Ryan
music five? I'll go with the Boston Celtics. I'm gonna
take the Celtics as well. Take the Celtics as well,

(01:56:20):
so hard um, I do think the officiating usually gained
a game tent to even out. Obviously Jana is getting
the line. My guess is Celtics super physical with a
night he struggled to get to the line. You keep
Hm out of the paint, you do better job against him.
I do think Marcus smart, even though he's got at
a size disadvantaged low man, can win in a short
in one game. I think he'll actually guard him some.

(01:56:43):
I guess the Celtics win. Kyrie's comments too, were I
thought that they were very transparent. I don't think that
anybody should take them personally, but it's trying to slow
Janice down, also covering up on how not good he's
been these last two games. It just hasn't been good.
And yeah, try to try to take the the league

(01:57:07):
by storm or or put them on notice by saying
it slows the game down. We don't want this, this
isn't good. I thought those were very, very transparent totally transparent,
transpar How about this for the Warriors, centator Marcus Cousins
till the Undefeated. He expects to return to action in
the playoffs despite turning a quad muscle in the first
round against the Clippers. Now in fairs, I read the article,

(01:57:30):
and I actually if you actually, like you know, when
I read the article, he did say he wants to
be expects to play, but he's like, I have no
idea if it's actually possible right now. He is back
working out, and he worked out before the game, so
it doesn't mean it's not possible, but he it was.
It was weird, Like I read the articles, like, wow,
really he expects to play and he's like, yeah, I
have no idea if I can actually do it. I

(01:57:51):
just that's my that's my mindset, all right. My mindset
is I'm seven feet Yeah, that's wild right. Chargers quarterback
Philip Rivers is it for the final year of his
contract with the Bolts and gave an update. I'm his
future today with the team. I'm certainly thankful for that
that opportunity comes, but I'm really I'm just fine right

(01:58:12):
where we are. You know, I got this year left
and under no immediate stress or urgency to get anything done.
You know, if it even if it means playing it out,
that'll be just fine. He really will learn he's fine
playing this last year to come. He will. He says
he wants to coach high school football coaches boys. When
he's done. He will be a high priced free agent

(01:58:36):
in broadcasting like we have never seen. If he decides
to call quitcition this year. Of course, you guys know
from my one interview I get to do with him
a year. We're best friends. Best friend at least it
makes you feel that way. So Philip, we're gonna put
you on a cart and make you driver around the field. Okay,
Panthers could have at Cam. Newton told then he feels

(01:58:59):
great to feels he has full strength that his shoulders shoulder,
that is, as he recovers from surgery. Newton ad that
he hopes to begin throwing before training camp. Timely drop.
Once I knew the local surgeon, the team surgeon, was
doing the operation, I knew it wasn't that big a deal.
The xfl aouts they have struck TV deals with Fox

(01:59:21):
and ESPN to carry games with the league launches. Will
you watch no I'm not a big spring football guy. Sorry, Fox.
Maybe I'll only watch the games you only watch the Fox,
will not watch against the ESPN Fox. I'll watch them
all the time, and I will promote them all the time. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. What about you?

(01:59:43):
Probably not, I don't know, Uh, probably not. I mean, like, look,
I might watch if I if I happened there are
some random spring afternoons in the week on the weekends.
You're like, there is nothing on. I cannot get into
watching a basement like it's hard to pick up a
baseball game mid inting, like mid inning and the third
inning and go like, I'm in uh whereas I do

(02:00:05):
think of football game, You're like, oh, I remember that guy.
I'll watch a little bit, but generally no, I'm not
huge into it. Braves pitcher Kevin Gospel was suspended five
games by Major League Baseball for throwing at Jose You're
Inya of the Marlins on Friday night. This date's all
the way back to last season, when the Marlins pitcher
plugged Ronald Dacuna in the first inning of their game. Yeah,

(02:00:26):
after a Kuna had homeward in the five previous games, gospel,
by the way, appealing his suspension in line to start
tonight against the Dodgers. A little payback, any issue with
that dating back to last season? Yeah, this is only
baseball works though, right where they like they're baseball players
like elephants. They literally never forget like you were that
time in third grade, right when you threw at me,

(02:00:49):
like I was in third grade. No, I don't, Yes,
you do. That's baseball. That's one of those things they're like,
is it immature, Yes, but I told you, anytime you
want to make an excuse for thing that's inexplicable, you
just say that's baseball. The Cubs have been playing some
good baseball. They've won seven in a row and went
from last to first in the span of a month.

(02:01:11):
They now have the best record in the National League.
That happened really fast. That happened really really, really fast.
Some of it has scheduled some of his the Cubs finally,
you know last year it took him. It's taken the
last couple of years forever to start playing. But clearly
there the mixes better, and I think some of its
schedule as well. All right, and uh, the last word, well,
maybe it's not the last word, if Gary West has

(02:01:32):
anything to say about it. Maximum Securities owner spoke with
the Today's Show today after his horse has stripped of
the Kentucky Derby went on Saturday and announced that the
horse's owner has pulled the horse out of the Preakness. States.
I was a bit shocked and surprised that the Stewards
wrote a statement that was probably prepared by their lawyers

(02:01:53):
and refused literally refused to take a single question from
the media. So they've been about his non rand s
parent about this whole thing is anything I've ever seen
in my life. Gary West not happy with the Stewards
who overturned and gave the Derby two country house. I
do think he cut off the other horses and it
was dangerous and like I have most most horse guys like,

(02:02:17):
can't do that. Can do that? By the way, let
me correct myself, like, do you know the Cubs have
beaten during this run and they swept the Cardinals. Yeah,
well the Marlins got him started the Marlin stink. Two
or three from the Diamondbacks, two or three from the Dodgers,
two or three from the Diamondbacks. Uh. Two on the
road against the Mariners, and then swept the Cardinals. Like
that's pretty good teams they've run through, Yeah, winners of
their last seven, and I think they get the Marlins

(02:02:38):
again tonight if I'm correct. Backing out there and pressed
that the press, you got, do you guys know off handed?
The Marlins or any good Warriors, Warriors, Rockets who you like?
Dam buire. I'll take the Warriors tonight. About you, ry Music,
Golden State, Yep, about you? Uh um lms, We're all

(02:02:59):
take Golden st eight. I thought the Rockets would win
a game. I didn't know that's the way they'd win it.
I like Golden State as well. I think it's going
to be the Clay and Steph Show tonight. Might not
be close. Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio

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