December 9, 2025 • 50 mins
On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug addresses a troll who has gone after his basketball program. Doug sums up the Chargers as they were the benefactors of good luck on Monday Night.
On this installment of "Tuesday Morning Quarterback", Doug and the crew share the stories no one got to on Monday.
Doug takes credit for predicting the Philip Rivers signing. Doug welcomes John Middlekauff onto the show to talk about the Chargers, Philip Rivers and all of the headlines around the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:30):
we got a lot of stuff to get to here
in the DG Show. What a great experience. It was
a new experience. It was to see somebody else other
than our Chargers, Chase two and I Chargers find a
way to lose the game they should win. We're gonna
get to Monday Night Football in a second. First, you
(00:52):
know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do what I
should have done a long, long, long, long time ago.
I Am going to fight back against losers. That's something
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I know this bothered him, So this is what I'm
(01:33):
going to do. Okay, a week ago, right, we lost
a really tough home loss to Robert Morse and we'll
walk out the floor. I pushed the stool out of
the way, and yeah, I apologize for it's dumb. It's
just mad and nobody was around, and because the camera
(01:54):
caught it, it became some people's news and we talked
about in the show. But apparently there's a troll out
there who filmed me having a conversation with my athletic
director before going in and talking to the team. For
going in and talking to the team, and I got
(02:14):
to tell you there's a couple of things. One, you
don't film people without asking. I don't even know if
Wisconsin is a is a state where you're allowed to
film people without asking. But two and Dan, you brought
this up like it's a guy with like fifty followers
on TikTok saying fire Doug because I'm having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, it was really weird. It didn't seem like it
was confrontational at all, and I think that someone was
just trying to piece events together and make a story,
and so I didn't understand. I didn't know if I
was missing some context. I felt that, I mean, since
I knew you, that I would know everything that was
going on. And then I saw it in multiple places
(02:58):
where I'm sure it was just agated by bots or whatever,
but it was just it didn't seem like it was
a confrontational conversation. And so that's what really caught me
off guard with the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
No, it's my boss who's like a partner in this,
consoling me after the loss and talking me through it
and asking me a couple of questions and what happened
in a couple of different instances, And I was telling
him what happened. There's literally nothing to it. My big issue, like,
(03:32):
you can't control people with the phone trying to make
something out of nothing. And the reality is, if we're
being honest, even the stool thing is a total nothing, right,
because how it reads is like I threw a chair,
like I picked it up and there's a bunch of
people around and I just threw it and everybody goes
ducking right, This is not what happened. My issue is
(03:54):
there's a Facebook page called bro Bible. This is like
the third time that it's happened, right, the third time
that it's happened. Where they again, they do what you're
talking about, Dan, They aggregate pieces of something and they
tell a story without any information. By the way, can
(04:16):
this will get it go into the to the justin
Herbert thing right where if you have a question or
if you want a comment from me or anybody here
about a story, all you have to do is pick
up the phone. That's what you do when you write
a story. But these aren't. There is no journalism to it.
(04:37):
There's no context to it. There's just we lost a
game that we played well enough and we should have won.
We just didn't play well enough for forty minutes. It
was for thirty eight and a half. There's no context
to the fact that we've played a really difficult schedule,
that we've beaten Iona, we've beaten UMass, none of that,
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or that Robert Morris won the league or academic probation
last year or anything. Nothing, no context. So this is
me saying if there is actual a human being who
works for bro Bible, you can find me on Facebook.
You can find me on Instagram, or you can call
Fox Fox Sports Radio, or you can DM me on
(05:21):
social media if you would like to actually conduct an
interview or be a journalist. But piecing together a story
again non contextual. There was no even Hey, by the way,
we were picked dead last in the league this year
by a wide margin. Now we're owing two in the league.
So right now we're living down to that. I own that, okay?
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Or where Robert Morris is picked, or anything about the game,
or anything about our trip to the US Virgin Islands,
or how we took Minnesota to overtime, or Minnesota or
Yale we were down two to twenty nine seconds to
go a top seventy five team, none of that. They
don't actually care. And again it it It doesn't bother
me from the context of my job. I understand. My
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job is I understand where we are who are trying
to build. Nobody cares where the program was, academic probation,
where you are financially all the things you do, or
nobody cares about that. It's fine. What I care about
is what Jayce has long said about Stephen A. Smith.
Don't say you're a journalist don't say you're any sort
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of publication and not be able to do the actual
journalist stuff. And when I've made mistakes in journalism, that's
where I've gone wrong, Right, That's where I've gone wrong.
And my argument was always it was opinion based. Now
you're allowed to have an opinion, right, but that's when
(06:50):
it's in the context of an edit editorial. That's when
you're then when you're in print work editorial. So I
feel a treum this amount of sympathy and empathy for
people who have this done to them. And this is
year two and whatever it is. I I never slept
with your girlfriend and your wife, so that's not it.
(07:12):
I'm sorry if I made it as a basketball player,
a basketball analyst, and a sports radio host. I'm sorry that.
I'm not sorry that I got a job, and I'm
actually done with you. I do will you do what? Like?
There's plenty of guys Mike Bibby got a job. He
ain't been coaching in college either. He was a great player,
then he was a high school coach and a successful one,
and then he got a job attack State. Nobody said
(07:35):
boo about whether or not he should have a job
or shouldn't have a job. It's just because I have
opinions about sports, and maybe you don't like my opinions
about sports, and that's tough, that's too bad. But if
you're gonna tell a story, tell the story, not just
the parts or just make up that a conversation with
me and Josh Moon when there's a pretty good video
and there's kind of nothing to it, it's like what
(08:00):
I just I'm blown away by it, and I'm sorry
that I live in your head rent free, but you're
actually helping me when you're trying to hurt me. That's it,
It's really the end of it. Let's get to the
last night's football game. Truly enjoyable to watch Eagles lose,
right because Eagles fans know you don't like us and
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we don't care. But man, what a tough one for
Jalen hurts Man. For a tough one to Jailen hurts
I think in game they told us no player had
turned the ball over twice in one possession in the
modern era. That's the post nineteen seventy two of football.
I had never seen that before, but Jay Stu that
(08:47):
felt the fumble on the interception felt like a Charger play.
The fumble of the fumble after the interception was just
a this is not going to be Jalen Hurts night
when you saw that happen when they pick up that,
I had flashbacks of the Patriots playoff game right when
they when the Chargers were fourteen and two. Do you
(09:10):
know who's going to know who the player was and
the year was? That's Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Do you know what year and what player was made
the interception? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I completely forgot. Yeah, I'm sorry and.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
My only hope Dan, I know you're literally my only hope.
But I'm watching last night and I'm like, that usually
happens to us, doesn't it? That usually happens to us,
that that's usually the time in which we screw the
thing up. As when I'm saying us, I'm saying Chargers
and you're like, wait, the Eagles suddenly become the Keystone
(09:42):
Cops where they throw an interception, get a fumble back
and fumbled again. Jaster, you had to be watching that
game thinking this is the most Charger play ever, only
it happened to the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Usually that when the ball does never almost never bounce
as the Chargers way uh, until Harbaugh joined. So this
is this is like a ear plus running.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But you were at the game, I want to say
that night that there was a fumble and Tyreek Hill
just picked up the ball and ran in front eighty yards.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Typical Charger play.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Like that game, that was the perfect Chargers play.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
There was that three years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I want to say was three years ago, two or.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Three years ago, and it was after the Emmanuel Acho. Uh,
he's a social media quarterback about Jessin Herbert. And I'm
watching the game and the Chargers are like completely dominating
the game except for two plays. Tyreek Hill I think,
either beat him deep for a play and that was
(10:43):
a touchdown and then he literally picked up the fumble
and it wasn't supposed to be to him and runs
in for touchdown. And you're and and you're just thinking
to yourself, like that's the Chargers. They're way better, and
they go what an experience to watch somebody else do
somebody You're like, wait, did they switch you Formers before
the game, because that was Chargers. And then of course, yeah,
(11:05):
here's here's the play last night, Jalen Hurd's throwing interception
getting it back on the fumble and then fumbling himself.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's empty for Hurtz.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Wats quarterback to all and here.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Comes a blitz from Dayon.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Can't get their intercepted, big man. Oh, and the ball
is out and the ball is out again and the
Chargers fall on it. My goodness, that's an interception, a
fumble recovery by the offense, and a fumble recovery by
the defense.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Let's get it all sorted out.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
When it's all uncovered, it's Troy Don, It's got the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The year was two thousand and six. The Chargers were
fourteen and two. Marty Schottenheimer was the coach. It was
fourth and five in the fourth quarter with six twenty
five to go. The Chargers were up twenty one to thirteen,
and Tom Brady was picked off at the Chargers thirty
(11:58):
by Marlin McCree Marlona McCree. All he had to do
was go down. Instead, he was stripped of the football
by Troy Brown. Troy Brown, of course, did he play
both sides of the football that year.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They put him as a dB at times. Yes, I
do remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And Marla McCree makes a pick, gets stripped and the
Patriots rebound, score a touchdown, get a two point conversion,
and then won the game when the Chargers when Nate
Cating missed a fifty four yardfield goal, the most Charger
thing ever. And I'm watching last night and I saw
(12:37):
the fumble, I'm like, oh no, no, Barley McRae. And
then Jan Hurts gets and he fumbles again. So the
times are a change in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
By the way, when Doug did his piece on the
chair throwing last week, there was a comment on the
Instagram post that was so true and someone was making
fun of me that I was comparing your job to
fantasy football and how we would want to throw a
chair at during fantasy football. I was going up against
Chargers defense last night. Guys, that's four points. That was
(13:10):
two turnovers on one play for the Chargers defense.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh my gosh, the minute I had taken I had
taken the Chargers defense off of my team a couple
of games ago. I forget who they played against, Like, ah,
they're all banged up.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Nah, what a load of crap. It was nuts.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It was so so nuts. What a what a crazy,
crazy play. And by the way, I I I am
in the I am in the playoffs or no, yeah, yeah,
I'm in the championship quarterfinal here of my fantasy team.
But I stupidly took the Chargers off my roster and
then last night two turnovers in one play. All Right,
(13:49):
the story of the night was Jalen Hurts five turnovers
granted two in one play. Here's Jalen Hurts talking about
the loss.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I knew it was going to be a tight window throw.
I have to watch the film to see see it
from the eyes film's point of view. Ultimately, it's a
play that I didn't make. You got to handle the ball.
That's a play that we've we've made a million times
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in that scenario versus a cloud corner, and I didn't
make that play this time around.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Definitely stings, Definitely stings. But how do you respond?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
And that's the only way I know how to look
at it?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Again.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
You're gonna see what type of resolve does does does
his team have with that? What type of resolve do
we have within with What's what's in us to respond
the way we want to? So what you gotta dig?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yep uh. Here's Nick Sirianni, their head coach, on Jail
and hurtsnight.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
This game is the ultimate team game. So it's all
it's never you know, it's never just on one person. Now, ultimately,
he always has the ball in his hands, and I
know he'll he'll wear a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And and on that, and and I got.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
To do about job of helping them in those scenarios. Again,
it's always it's never just on execution, right, It's it's
always that we look at ourselves as coaches first and
we help them be in position to succeed and then
execute right. So obviously never want to turn the ball over.
We've been pretty good at that, and tonight was a
(15:20):
little uncharacteristic of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Uh yeah, I would, I would say, so, you know,
it is it is curious that the Eagles really tried
to get the ball to AJ Brown, really try to
get the ball to a J.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Brown.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know, he had four drops. One drop led to
an interception. He is immensely talented. He doesn't block, and
you know, so oftentimes we had been critical or people
had been critical of the Eagles for the staleness of
their offense and how much they run the football. But
this is one of those things that can happen when
(15:57):
you throw the football and that's not always the strength
of your quarterback. They were dominating the game with Saquon Barkley.
He had one hundred and twenty two yards rushing six
point one yards of carry. Granted the fifty two yard
run ends up skewing it, but they're suddenly not running
Jalen Hurts hardly at all, Like they went from using
(16:19):
him as a weapon to now not utilizing him. And
it's really interesting what's happening to the Eagles this year
and what's happening to the Ravens this year where you
have two of the most dynamic weapons as quarterbacks, and
whether they're trying to protect them for the playoffs or
(16:39):
whether they feel like it limits their offense. Lamar Jackson
doesn't run as often, obviously doesn't isn't moving the same,
But it's like you're trying to make Lamar Jackson into
Philip Rivers, and I think the same of Jalen Hurts.
Like last year's style was good enough to win them
(17:02):
a Super Bowl. Why are you trying to force them
to be somebody and throw the ball forty times when
you're running the hell out of the ball against the Chargers,
especially in overtime, when you're already in fueld goal range,
and by forcing it you end up turning the ball over,
especially when Jalen Hurts had a tough night.
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It's a snowy day in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Got like
it was supposed to be. It's supposed to be like
three inches four inches. It's like an inch of snow.
It wasn't much, but more coming overnight. Whether I believe
by you guys, am I right? Is it eighty degrees
in southern California today? Dan Byer wearing a Are we going
(18:13):
with coral or salmon? It's the color coral or salmon?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I think it's more of a salmon color. What's got
some navy mixed into it?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You know this is interesting. This is a quick little
rant before we get to Tuesday Morning quarterback in the afternoon. Right,
is that there are things that have always been good,
but they were just made the wrong way. The easiest
one is Brussels sprouts, right, because traditionally Brussels sprouts are steamed, steamed, Sam,
(18:51):
did you or Jason or Dan grew up in a
household where your mom would steam Brussels sprouts?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay, no, you have the You admittedly have the diet
of a ten year old, so I know that's not
not you, damn.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
But Sammy, I think we did not eat Brussels sprouts
growing up. I don't think my parents felt the need
to push that on on their children and make us
suffer through that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Okay, food what big food in the seventies. I was
raised in the seventies. Brussels sprouts was big back then.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Are big now, okay, And when they're steamed. I know
they're big now, But when they were steamed, your whole
house would smell like flatulence.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Yeah, welling any vegetable is not is gross, but especially
brussels shirt especially.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Bustle flate his smell.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, now, you said they're big now now, why are
they big now?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Because you put them in the oven, you roasted.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Put or you flash fry them. In restaurants, I think
they flash fry them. Sure, sure, right, throw some balsamic
glaze on their little salt on there, like these are.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Amazing, some bacon bits or something.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, It's there's no difference in the vegetable. It's the
same vegetable. It's only in the way in which it's made.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's a presentation.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah right, it's all in. It's all in the presentation,
not in anything that's different. It's interesting. I'm watching last
night and I'm watching all those crazy Eagles fans at
the Monday night game. And when we were kids, they
would have those Kelly Green Eagles jerseys and I thought
they were the ugliest jerseys on earth. Okay, but now
(20:20):
and it's because they've widened the number. The numbers are crisper.
It's a sharper green and the and it just the
presentation is so much better. Same thing with the Broncos jerseys,
the throwback jerseys. Dan Like when the Broncos were the
Orange Crush, they were cool, but they weren't like now
they pop and I think they've tightened some of the lines.
(20:43):
They've made the white even brighter. The orange is a
slightly different hue. It's just a cleaner, crisper look. It's
the same uniform and same helmet, just a better cut,
a cleaner better presentation. Fair, yes, fair, right that I
was thinking, I don't know, it's these are these are
ran them thoughts that they'd come to my kind of
my brain. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's a Tuesday.
(21:05):
There are stories or storylines that have been missed by
us and by most of the media. Why Well, because
on a Monday, we had the college football playoff, we
had the Notre Dame complaints, we had the top line
NFL games. But I know Dan watches every game, every snap.
(21:25):
I know Jay stew and Sam do as well. I
watch as much as I can and then catch up
on Sunday nights and on Mondays. That's how we get
to Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
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Mondays can be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we
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Speaker 2 (22:08):
Dan Byer, Yes Tuesday Morning Quarterback. First of all, I
want to to say we wrote this team off earlier
on in the season and they.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Still made a right They didn't right back.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
They didn't right back. In fact, just to bring up
our Buffalo trip again, when Jason and I went to
the Bills Dolphins game and those great seats that Doug
got us, we wondered if it would be Mike McDaniel's
last game as the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
He's still the head coach. Not only that, he's expected
to be the head coach next year, and the Dolphins
are actually still in the playoff picture in the AFC.
Now there's they're gonna need a lot of help. But
this was a team that we thought just needed an
absolute reset, cleaning house top to bottom, get rid of
Chris Greer, McDaniel, get rid of to get rid of everybody,
(22:59):
Tyreek hilse Well, Tyrek Kill got injured. They did fire
Chris Greer, but they have found something. And beating teams
that you're supposed to beat is not a bad thing
in the National Football League. And it may not meet
that the Dolphins are going towards a Super Bowl next
year or the year after, but they had something to
Miami that for some reason was not coming out early,
(23:20):
but it's coming out now. And the Dolphins, i feel,
are a story that we're not going to talk about
because they're probably not going to make the postseason and
they're not going to be at the top of the draft.
But the turnaround from where they were pretty darn good,
all highlighted by the return trip with the Bills coming
to Miami and the Dolphins destroying them a few weeks ago.
They took care of the Jets with these after Tarad
(23:42):
Taylor was knocked out of the game this past weekend.
Dolphins are six and seven, same with the Ravens and Chiefs,
and we never talked about him until now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's a great point. Can I I'm going to add
to it, Okay, and I wouldn't completely write them off
even for the playoffs. Right at the Steelers, It's not
like the Steelers been great, right, Bengals at home? Right,
Joe Burrow's playing as of now? Does he play in
two weeks? I don't know. Buccaneers again at home, winnable game,
Patriots on the road. But the Patriots may have clinched
(24:12):
the number one seed. They may have been playing all
the Patriots backups in that game. It's it's possible at least,
so it's not over. But here here's the point that
at years I'm gonna put on my coaching hat for
a second. Who are the players that were on the
Dolphins to start the year who are not on the
Dolphins now?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The other one? Would they trade away Jalen Ramsey?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Ah ah huh? Are those guys seen as good or
bad culture guys?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, they're not. They're not.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm just telling you, like, yeah, I'm just telling you
that I had been told, and we talked about this
a little on the on the radio, that there is
a group that the the masses in Miami, the players
were like, those guys aren't about winning, aren't about winning?
And I think they kept the guys that are playing
the guys that are about winning, and whether or not
they get to the playoffs or not, they'll probably get
(25:06):
to five hundred, maybe above and hope maybe above nine
and eight. There is something about culture character over talent.
Gotta have some talent, but you can't do it if
you don't have character.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
Sam, remember when Baker Mayfield was a trendy MVP candidate
earlier in this season. Well, the Buccaneers have lost four
of the last five, and their most recent loss was
the bottoming out with a loss against the Saints. I
don't really know, just only on surface level. I know
(25:38):
what's going on with this Buccaneers team. If you guys
have further explanation, I can, yeah, Dan, tell me what's
going on with these Buccaneers, Dan.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
So the injuries have ended up catching up with them
a bit. Mike Evans has been out since Week seven.
Bucky Irving missed a significant portion of the season, but
a Mecca Buca has had an issue with draw slately.
Tristan Wurf's missed this past weekend's game against the Saints.
Chris Godwin is finally back into the fold, but he's
not the Chris Godwin of old, and their defense is
(26:10):
not as good, not nearly as good. You have Videvea
in the middle, but you can throw on them all
day long, and Tyler Schuck did that this past weekend
on that all day long. It was in a rainstorm,
but still the Saints converted keith or downs in their game.
Saints had no business winning that game. They were eight
and a half point underdog, and they basically played even
with the Buccaneers, who got in their own way, couldn't
(26:31):
convert fourth thounds, were two of five for ones that
really mattered. Yeah, just they're a mess right now.
Speaker 10 (26:37):
And it's uh and they have the Panthers twice, they
have the Dolphins, So you just spoke about who were
playing much better. So even getting the postseason seems like
it's kind of cloudy right now.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And who is that guy they were missing?
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Was it this guy they meet, a big boat man,
they need him back real bad.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well they have him back. It's he's had a case
of the drops, all the drop sets.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
Well, those Buccaneers, I remember that there was some play
the Baker made where he picked up a first down.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I forgot what game that was against.
Speaker 10 (27:03):
But they have some nice wins on the resume, but
four out of five they've lost, so a little worried
about them.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Let's go to Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'll take it from here. The Washington Commanders have my
attention today and this is going to entail a visual.
So I was able to send you guys on the
group text the picture, and Shapiro gave me access to
send a text message to everybody who's listening right now.
So you should have a text message on your phone
(27:31):
if you're a listener. It is a picture of the predictions. Now,
you know, I hate predictions, but these are kind of fun.
Dan Bayer every single year in the studio puts a
chart of things for us to kind of predict the
NFL season. So in early September I wrote down the
following that my pick to go out on a limb,
(27:53):
you know, go on a limb, take a chance, like,
have some balls, and go on a limb and predict something.
My pick was that the Commanders were not going to
make the playoffs. Now through their prism of today, you're like, yeah,
they suck their quarterbacks hasn't made good. But no, no, no, no.
They were the darlings of the offseason they were the Darlins.
(28:14):
In fact, all the people that talk that have NFL
content on their description on their Twitter handle was saying,
if we redrafted the twenty twenty four quarterback class, Jaden
Daniels by far is the number one pick in that draft,
Jade and Daniels And I know what you're thinking, listeners
as you're looking at this picture. But Jaden Daniels has
(28:38):
been injured. Yeah, no kidding. If that wasn't the one
thing that most scouts had an issue with coming into
the NFL. There are videos on Twitter and YouTube of
him getting his ass kicked at Arizona State and LSU
because he can't take hits because he steps into the
wrong hits. If only we could have predicted this, h well,
(29:01):
I did. They're not going to make the playoffs. I
think it's official. I think they're mathematically eliminated. And I
do want to I do want to mention one thing
I've been big on John Schneider. As Dan has avoid
talking about the Seahawks for the past several weeks, my
thing has been John Schneider has been out in front
of a lot of decisions. You know you don't want it,
you want to let a player or a coach go
a year before instead of a year after. And he
(29:24):
was right on Russell Wilson. He was right on Geno Smith,
he was right on Pete Carroll. He was even right
on DK Metcalf. He's like, I have a number one,
and that number one is the best receiver in the NFL.
And I will also say this, they chose Mike McDonald
over Dan Quinn. They could have brought back Dan quinn.
(29:45):
They chose Mike McDonald, And who could ever forget that?
I keep forgetting, keep keep forgetting that. Mike McDonald's gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
By the way, did you guys see the updated picture
that was sent in that group text? Did you? Were
you able to get the updated picture in that one?
I'm sure? Yeah, yeah. So it's so just an updated
picture of the standings because five spots above Jason's So
those picks were made sooner? Was me writing commanders missed
(30:17):
playoffs and out on a limb boom? I just yes,
it is also so I am I am in lockstep.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
I like how you guys used commander's colors kind of too,
some some red and yellow.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yes, all that looks like my handwriting? Did I? Did? I?
Put all that in for you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't get I thought I filled one out.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But Jason, but Doug, where are you dugged? Doug? You
were here like three times.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
But I was here. I was there right when you
guys had this, and it was kind of like it
was almost like you didn't want me to participates.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's exactly what Sam was like, We've got to figure
out a way to box Dug out of this. Doug.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
You could have radioed in your your picks.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
By the way rocket Ishmail did when the trophy. That's me,
I'm a dope, TI debtmer want.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
It my bad?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I can we can we talk about how the Raiders
are once again an abject disaster, and like, look, this
would happen six coaches in six years. That's there, six
coaches in six years. This is You walk into a
house that used to be beautiful, right, built in the
nineteen twenties, it's got unbelievable architecture, it's got great bones,
(31:27):
and then somebody came in. They're like, I'm gonna fix
this bad boy up. And then a year in they're like, yeah,
we don't like that contractor you know one of his
subsistance shows. I get another one, and another one, another one,
and like no rooms look the same, and why the
hell we hang on to Max Crosby? Like Max Crosby
is an elite football player, He's a ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Good, good football player.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Frock Bowers is an unbelievable football player. But putting those
two out there with what else we got going is
just I don't know, Like there was over the last
one d two years. The now Las Vegas Raiders have
had double digit winning seasons twice twice commitment to excellence
(32:12):
or excrement. They are bad and obviously the first thing
they need to do is find a quarterback. Find a quarterback,
but there's so many other holes, right, It's like, hey,
let's go fix up the kitchen, Like yeah, but the
what about the flooring? You know, what about everything? It's
what a mess? And I understood what you were doing
(32:36):
with Pete Carroll, right, you took an inexperienced guy in
Antonio Pierce. Now you get a super experienced guy. But
this is a rebuild, And yeah, it's a lot to
think that Pete Carroll at seventy four years old is
in it for a rebuild.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You gotta have the bones, gotta.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
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Speaker 2 (34:20):
In the shotgun. A touchdown would win it for the Eagles.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
Kerts pulls it throwze.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Intercepted, game over, intercepted, game over, game over. The fourth
interception Tony Jefferson unbelievable, uncedes it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Uh, that's our our guy. Matt money Smith with the call.
The big story of the day is former Chargers quarterback
Philip Rivers has signed with the Indianapolis Colts as their
practice squad quarterback. This was yesterday thirty five PM on
(35:02):
the Doug Gottlieb Show with me and former Chargers GM
Tom Telesco. Okay, the signing was reported at five point fifteen,
so an hour and a half later. Here's our exchange
on this very show. Here we are, we're a December eighth.
You've been in a similar situation where I gotta find
(35:23):
a quarterback here you know who's on the street, and
I got a potential playoff team. What's this? What's the process?
Speaker 8 (35:30):
Like?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
How does it work well?
Speaker 12 (35:33):
At this point? Since you're past the trade deadline, you're
really your only chance. It's gonna have to be somebody
from your own roster at this at this point, unless
you just get lucky and there's a quarterback who's on
the street who's been in a Shane Steak spike in
offense before, I'd have to look it up for the
chances they're slim so well, I mean, you're.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Gonna gonna call Philip Rivers get him out of retirement.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Phillip recently. I
mean he's coaching high school football I think right now,
so I think that may not work well.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
They signed him. The guys were chuckling because I sent
them a meme I saw on social media that has
Philip Rivers at Seattle like a fantasy football sort of logo.
The over under is one hundred and twenty seven and
a half pass yards and there's a picture of Joe
(36:21):
Biden in a Colts jersey. It is fantastic. Whoever did that,
it is fantastic, fantastic And the best part is it
made all three of you guys smile. Right, that's the
idea of sports and social media. Stuck gott Leap Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in John Mettlcoff
(36:44):
and a finalist host of the Three and Out podcast.
What's gone so wrong with the Philadelphia Eagles?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That's a great question. I mean last night was a
combination of everything. You know, Jalen's turnovers. The first two
were really bad, obviously, you know, AJ had the drop
that turned into one and the last play I'd say
is a great defensive play as much as a bad,
bad path. I'd give the defense all the credit on
that one. So you got the quarterback off. AJ talked
(37:15):
the big game. I mean, that wasn't exactly his you know,
most glorious moment last night. He dropped the touchdown, had
a pick. It was because of him. You know, the
play callings when you get into a game like that
with the quarterback who's injured, with an offensive line who's terrible,
and a team that just wants to be grimy. You know,
(37:36):
the Eagles tried to play like they had Josh Allen
or Joe Burrell playing and passed the ball around the yard,
Like why didn't they have forty carries last night with
Saquon And every time on first down right they get stuffed,
It's like, oh, they're just going to go past pass.
And I just think that that's the type game. If
you reversed it and Jim Harbaugh was the coach, Saque
(37:57):
would have had forty carries. And I get the offensive
wise not as good as last year. They have clearly injuries,
got backups in there, but.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
He's averaging six point one yards to carry. Give him
the ball.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
It's insane. And in the moment too last night where
the Chargers they they run that take push push, he
takes the house. He goes like fifty miles an hour,
so like, okay, you know this guy still got some
stuff to him. They then they force a punt, they
get the ball back, they're up sixteen to thirteen. The
Chargers are in major trouble and they start passing the
ball and two plays later the ball goes off aged
(38:30):
his hands and it's the interception. It's like, what are
you doing here? And that Jim's won a lot of
games that are ugly over the course of his career.
That was pretty impressive given his offensive line. You know,
his quarterback. I don't know about you, but how many
times you hold your breast thinking to like, did he
break his hand more when he's lying on the ground.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
It was, it was, It was crazy. It's insane. But
somehow the Chargers found a way, which is the opposite
of traditional Charger football.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Isn't it.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's Hardbaugh Herbert toughness. The defense is obviously pretty pretty gritty.
I mean, Khalil, you know, it's still a really good player,
will have many years into his career. I mean, he's
you know, they that's a good personnel move, right, They
they kept him around. They got rid of Joey Bosa
and they reinvested into him and Khalil Mack is a
big time difference maker and their physicality on defense. I mean,
(39:22):
but the Eagles defense was excellent too. I mean, if
I'm if I'm one of the Eagles defenders, I'm like,
what are we doing? Well, We're dominating this game. How
are we losing it? And it's like, well yet ten turnovers?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Ten turnovers?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Show the double turnover? I mean, it's an Alzheimer, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Alzheimer? Alzheimer never say anything like it. I thought it
was a Marlon McCree play. And then all of a sudden,
US Hurdge fumbles it. Hedge fumbles it as well. You
do a lot of gambling. Okay, everybody is up in
arms and you talk a lot of gambling on the
three and Now podcast as well. The only thing I
(40:02):
can think of with Pete Carroll kicking that field goal
was you're just trying to keep it close and it
looks better on the scoreboard. Right here's Pete Carroll explaining
why he would kick a field goal to make it
a seven point game with five seconds to go.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
I can't bend and twist and go with whatever the
public sentiment is, or one person sentiment for that matter,
regardless of who it is. I just can't do that
and do my job the right way to the best
of my ability.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So if you notice it, I was.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
I was battling with the official making a plea for
because we saw eight second seven, which would have given
us a chance to kick the field goal, kicking on
site kick and maybe have a second left. And then
when it went down to five or went down to
three or whatever they did, and then they put it
back to five whatever, then I knew it was going
to look stupid, like you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Figure out why we were doing it.
Speaker 11 (40:50):
So there was a real clear thought what we were
trying to get down there, just to take it down
to the very last click. It might not be good
enough for you. I understand that, but that's what I think.
You could see what we were trying to do. It
just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Do you think there's is Do you believe in the
conspiracy theory that he was trying to stick it to
the Broncos and so they didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Cover I kind of believe what he's saying there. I mean,
I think at this point in time, the Raiders are
down so bad. You know, every point like a point
of pride for them. You know, I think Pete Carroll's
at the point he's so rich he couldn't even be
bought if they tried. I truly believe, you know, it's
(41:32):
always compete, you know, it makes sense, right, He's hoping
they're closer to ten seconds and maybe they got a
freak chance to take a field goal and then throw
a bomb. Now clearly once it's like he explained, I
hadn't even heard his audio, but it does make more
sense than just I wasn't really watching it live. It
was on one of the other TV's, but I mean
that game was a joke, and then I watching the replay,
(41:54):
it was kind of embarrassing, But I do understand what
he's saying, you could argue the reference he's calling the
delay of game or whatever was under tens Like, what
are we doing? Just get out of there.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I don't know, it was it was crazy. What what's happened?
Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Well, clearly he's injured because physically he doesn't look right,
you know, And I think anytime you see this a
lot in the NBA, right, like a freak athlete when
they're not moving right, You're like, something's a little off.
And you know, he's been banged up throughout the year
and a huge part of his game is predicated on
the movement, on the running around, and it's just it's
just not there. And you can tell from a dynamic
(42:35):
standpoint he looks a shell of himself. And then he's
not playing well on top of that, and they just
they just look off. And I mean that was I
mean they were down twenty to nine at one point
in that game. I mean, Rogers clearly kind of was
a throwback game for him. It looked pretty good. And yeah,
I mean obviously they needed a little you know, referee,
(42:58):
whether the letter is a law, I mean forever when
we were kids. Obviously, the basketball rule is the best, right,
it's two guys with the sideline. Whether you're playing in
the NBA or whether you're playing a pickup game, you
always knew, okay, it's your ball. And now the slow
motion replay, it's like, oh, Mike, what it's off his fingernail.
It's no different with the Cats, Like historically, of course
(43:19):
that's a catch's touchdown. But I do think with technology
we have almost overcomplicated the game in parts that used
to be a no brainer, like that's a touchdown. You
move on.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. The Packers
beat the Bears, did you learn more about the Packers
or the Bears?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I mean, I'm I picked Packers and go to Super Bowl, so, like,
I know, their high ends pretty high. I mean, Jordan's
playing well, Watson coming back has really changed and he's
got five touchdowns in four games. He looks so fast. So,
I mean all the pressure was on Green Bay. I mean,
you had to win that game at home, and they
were at fourteen to three. They came out out ready.
It was impressive. I learned a lot about the Bears.
I mean that seventeen play, nine minute drive in a
(44:07):
spot where you had to have it with some of
those play calls by Ben and you know, Caleb's making
a lot of plays on the move. You know, it
was it was really impressive, and you know, I think
part of the reasons I like the Broncos this week,
can green Bay match that level for three straight weeks?
(44:27):
I mean that was that was a war zone game
really for both teams. Same thing with Chicago. You know,
now they're a little lucky they get the Browns, but
if Chicago was playing a you know, a good team,
I'd be like, it's coming off that game that they
takes a lot out of you for both teams, and
I think it's gonna be a tough spot for green
Bay going on the road knowing they got Chicago the
following week that if they if they if they sweep them,
(44:50):
they're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
So if you told them at the beginning of this
three game stretch, hey you're gonna go you know, two
and one, they would pick the two Bears games, right.
So I'm a little interested to watch green Bay and
Chicago like that. That's a game you know forever it
was like if you played the Lions the next week.
A couple of years ago you would get boat raced.
It happened with the forty nine Ers a couple of
years ago too, just because those games physically take so
(45:13):
much out of you. And that was I'm glad the
Bears are good because that game was That was theater.
I mean, that was that second half was as good
a football game as you're gonna watch.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
That was great high level NFL football games. Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. For my money, you can't
have Shador Sanders next year unless he's going to be
the starter, and you don't draft somebody in the first round,
right because there's just too much noise that follows him.
Is that is that a fair statement?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah? I mean you're not going to draft a guy
two overall and have Shador Sanders and you know at
the backup, right right.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I mean he could be a backup, but all the
noise that follows him, you can't. It doesn't work, right,
It'll always well undercase, it's like.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
What are you going to have a quarterback petitioner? He's
going to give it to the first rounder than everyone's
the first round.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
That's yeah, right, Okay, Uh, where are you in the idea?
Of he's going to be the starter long term.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Well, I mean, I definitely think it depends where they land.
I also think, you know, Shador listened. I mean, he
was a better prospect in most people's mind. I would
imagine if you pulled most NFL gms still and Gabriels
like a borderline undrafted free agent. So I think the
indictment on the Browns is like, you guys pulled the
(46:32):
trigger on a third round pick, which is pretty powerful,
and you took a guy that most teams would have
been like, this guy does not near talented enough, and
then we watched him play and I'm like, I don't know, man,
this is kind of crazy. So now we're going to
give you guys the juice to do it again, you know,
on a really really high pick. I mean if I
was and listen, it doesn't happen very often anymore, but
(46:54):
I would be if if I'm like Fernando Mendoza, I
am not going to Cleveland. You know, it's one of
those where you got to l Way or an Eli, like,
I'm not messing with that, And you could argue all
the teams that are going to be in the mix,
like it's like do you want to go play? I mean,
this sounds crazy because he's a legendary guy, but this
Pete Carroll situation, I don't want that. I mean these teams, like,
(47:15):
I want no part of any of these teams. Draft
and High. So you know, Chador is clearly an upgrade
over Dylan Gabriel. We'll see. You know, there is a
big and a lot of people paying attention to this week.
He's playing games, getting a lot of eyeballs. You keep
making explosive plays. I mean the one throw that he
made to Judy for the touchdown. No Judy was opened
behind the defenders, but it was a dry throw, like
(47:35):
it was really nice. He's always been able to have
those touch throws in the end zone. Like Shador has
a lot of touch. He just got to be careful. Sometimes.
I think he thinks he's like Caleb Williams and he
tries to run away and it doesn't really work because
he's not He's not his father. So that was a
pretty promise and I get it some Titans, but relative
to what they were used to with Dylan Gabriel, it's like, yeah,
(47:55):
I mean Shador the Deshaun Watson story breaking last weekend
too was kind of weird, like what Cleveland is just
a mess?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, let's stop breaking news that Clive is mess. Last thing?
What's the chances Philip Rivers takes a snap this year?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
How awesome is it? Can you what time do you
think if his workout was at nine o'clock this morning?
Do you think he was like in the hotel gym
stretching of six am? Yes, I mean he approached this
thing like the super Bowl, and that's why we all
love him, I think, really, I I mean, obviously DJ's
gone is the answer. Richardon on injured reserve and I
saw Sike and said yesterday part of the reason why
(48:32):
I was like, why are they doing? Is Riley Leonards injured?
So it shows you in which I respect, Like, don't
go sign some you know Deadmond Ritter.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
You you can't. You have to sign someone who knows
the system.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, this guy, it turns out Phillipson running it with
his high school team right and him and Shane or Boys.
I mean they've known each other right forever. Now, I
mean he wasn't moving well whatever four or five years ago.
This you know, this will league where you kind of
got to move there aren't many statutes anymore, and he's
never had the greatest arm. I would imagine if he
(49:06):
was throwing eighty eight, what's he throwing now eighty two?
It's I you better be careful, you know, It's just
you could get injured those bones. There's no way he's
been training the same. I respect it, and I get
the Colts, but it could also be kind of something
scary could happen.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
I mean, he could see that.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
That's actually what a GM friend of mine was like,
this might not be safe. My thing is, I think
they brought him in. He may play a game. I
don't think he can play multiple games, but he becomes
the quarterback whisper to whoever is actually the quarterback, because
he knows this thing cold and like the de facto
quarterback coach for whoever is actually out there.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
This thing is unraveling on that. I mean for a
team that you know, traded two first round picks for
soft Gardener, obviously he's injured their quarterback situation. I mean
you start looking at that that schedule, you go, is
this team gonna finish eight to nine? I mean, even
if the Rivers started, honestly, they could be worse with
rivers than they would Eiley Leonard right. So it's kind
(50:03):
of I mean, I don't remember a turn of events
that you go, oh, this thing is one thing to
lose and finish, you know, bad, like the Eagles right
now or a couple of years ago. But to not
have your first round picks, that's pretty that's a The
Jets got to be feeling pretty good about that trade
right now, don't they.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yes, they do. That's that's our guy, John Mitlecoff. You
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we got a lot of stuff to get to here
in the DG Show. What a great experience. It was
a new experience. It was to see somebody else other
than our Chargers, Chase two and I Chargers find a
way to lose the game they should win. We're gonna
get to Monday Night Football in a second. First, you
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I know this bothered him, So this is what I'm
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going to do. Okay, a week ago, right, we lost
a really tough home loss to Robert Morse and we'll
walk out the floor. I pushed the stool out of
the way, and yeah, I apologize for it's dumb. It's
just mad and nobody was around, and because the camera
(01:54):
caught it, it became some people's news and we talked
about in the show. But apparently there's a troll out
there who filmed me having a conversation with my athletic
director before going in and talking to the team. For
going in and talking to the team, and I got
(02:14):
to tell you there's a couple of things. One, you
don't film people without asking. I don't even know if
Wisconsin is a is a state where you're allowed to
film people without asking. But two and Dan, you brought
this up like it's a guy with like fifty followers
on TikTok saying fire Doug because I'm having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, it was really weird. It didn't seem like it
was confrontational at all, and I think that someone was
just trying to piece events together and make a story,
and so I didn't understand. I didn't know if I
was missing some context. I felt that, I mean, since
I knew you, that I would know everything that was
going on. And then I saw it in multiple places
(02:58):
where I'm sure it was just agated by bots or whatever,
but it was just it didn't seem like it was
a confrontational conversation. And so that's what really caught me
off guard with the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
No, it's my boss who's like a partner in this,
consoling me after the loss and talking me through it
and asking me a couple of questions and what happened
in a couple of different instances, And I was telling
him what happened. There's literally nothing to it. My big issue, like,
(03:32):
you can't control people with the phone trying to make
something out of nothing. And the reality is, if we're
being honest, even the stool thing is a total nothing, right,
because how it reads is like I threw a chair,
like I picked it up and there's a bunch of
people around and I just threw it and everybody goes
ducking right, This is not what happened. My issue is
(03:54):
there's a Facebook page called bro Bible. This is like
the third time that it's happened, right, the third time
that it's happened. Where they again, they do what you're
talking about, Dan, They aggregate pieces of something and they
tell a story without any information. By the way, can
(04:16):
this will get it go into the to the justin
Herbert thing right where if you have a question or
if you want a comment from me or anybody here
about a story, all you have to do is pick
up the phone. That's what you do when you write
a story. But these aren't. There is no journalism to it.
(04:37):
There's no context to it. There's just we lost a
game that we played well enough and we should have won.
We just didn't play well enough for forty minutes. It
was for thirty eight and a half. There's no context
to the fact that we've played a really difficult schedule,
that we've beaten Iona, we've beaten UMass, none of that,
(04:58):
or that Robert Morris won the league or academic probation
last year or anything. Nothing, no context. So this is
me saying if there is actual a human being who
works for bro Bible, you can find me on Facebook.
You can find me on Instagram, or you can call
Fox Fox Sports Radio, or you can DM me on
(05:21):
social media if you would like to actually conduct an
interview or be a journalist. But piecing together a story
again non contextual. There was no even Hey, by the way,
we were picked dead last in the league this year
by a wide margin. Now we're owing two in the league.
So right now we're living down to that. I own that, okay?
(05:44):
Or where Robert Morris is picked, or anything about the game,
or anything about our trip to the US Virgin Islands,
or how we took Minnesota to overtime, or Minnesota or
Yale we were down two to twenty nine seconds to
go a top seventy five team, none of that. They
don't actually care. And again it it It doesn't bother
me from the context of my job. I understand. My
(06:06):
job is I understand where we are who are trying
to build. Nobody cares where the program was, academic probation,
where you are financially all the things you do, or
nobody cares about that. It's fine. What I care about
is what Jayce has long said about Stephen A. Smith.
Don't say you're a journalist don't say you're any sort
(06:29):
of publication and not be able to do the actual
journalist stuff. And when I've made mistakes in journalism, that's
where I've gone wrong, Right, That's where I've gone wrong.
And my argument was always it was opinion based. Now
you're allowed to have an opinion, right, but that's when
(06:50):
it's in the context of an edit editorial. That's when
you're then when you're in print work editorial. So I
feel a treum this amount of sympathy and empathy for
people who have this done to them. And this is
year two and whatever it is. I I never slept
with your girlfriend and your wife, so that's not it.
(07:12):
I'm sorry if I made it as a basketball player,
a basketball analyst, and a sports radio host. I'm sorry that.
I'm not sorry that I got a job, and I'm
actually done with you. I do will you do what? Like?
There's plenty of guys Mike Bibby got a job. He
ain't been coaching in college either. He was a great player,
then he was a high school coach and a successful one,
and then he got a job attack State. Nobody said
(07:35):
boo about whether or not he should have a job
or shouldn't have a job. It's just because I have
opinions about sports, and maybe you don't like my opinions
about sports, and that's tough, that's too bad. But if
you're gonna tell a story, tell the story, not just
the parts or just make up that a conversation with
me and Josh Moon when there's a pretty good video
and there's kind of nothing to it, it's like what
(08:00):
I just I'm blown away by it, and I'm sorry
that I live in your head rent free, but you're
actually helping me when you're trying to hurt me. That's it,
It's really the end of it. Let's get to the
last night's football game. Truly enjoyable to watch Eagles lose,
right because Eagles fans know you don't like us and
(08:23):
we don't care. But man, what a tough one for
Jalen hurts Man. For a tough one to Jailen hurts
I think in game they told us no player had
turned the ball over twice in one possession in the
modern era. That's the post nineteen seventy two of football.
I had never seen that before, but Jay Stu that
(08:47):
felt the fumble on the interception felt like a Charger play.
The fumble of the fumble after the interception was just
a this is not going to be Jalen Hurts night
when you saw that happen when they pick up that,
I had flashbacks of the Patriots playoff game right when
they when the Chargers were fourteen and two. Do you
(09:10):
know who's going to know who the player was and
the year was? That's Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Do you know what year and what player was made
the interception? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I completely forgot. Yeah, I'm sorry and.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
My only hope Dan, I know you're literally my only hope.
But I'm watching last night and I'm like, that usually
happens to us, doesn't it? That usually happens to us,
that that's usually the time in which we screw the
thing up. As when I'm saying us, I'm saying Chargers
and you're like, wait, the Eagles suddenly become the Keystone
(09:42):
Cops where they throw an interception, get a fumble back
and fumbled again. Jaster, you had to be watching that
game thinking this is the most Charger play ever, only
it happened to the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Usually that when the ball does never almost never bounce
as the Chargers way uh, until Harbaugh joined. So this
is this is like a ear plus running.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But you were at the game, I want to say
that night that there was a fumble and Tyreek Hill
just picked up the ball and ran in front eighty yards.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Typical Charger play.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Like that game, that was the perfect Chargers play.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
There was that three years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I want to say was three years ago, two or.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Three years ago, and it was after the Emmanuel Acho. Uh,
he's a social media quarterback about Jessin Herbert. And I'm
watching the game and the Chargers are like completely dominating
the game except for two plays. Tyreek Hill I think,
either beat him deep for a play and that was
(10:43):
a touchdown and then he literally picked up the fumble
and it wasn't supposed to be to him and runs
in for touchdown. And you're and and you're just thinking
to yourself, like that's the Chargers. They're way better, and
they go what an experience to watch somebody else do
somebody You're like, wait, did they switch you Formers before
the game, because that was Chargers. And then of course, yeah,
(11:05):
here's here's the play last night, Jalen Hurd's throwing interception
getting it back on the fumble and then fumbling himself.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's empty for Hurtz.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Wats quarterback to all and here.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Comes a blitz from Dayon.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Can't get their intercepted, big man. Oh, and the ball
is out and the ball is out again and the
Chargers fall on it. My goodness, that's an interception, a
fumble recovery by the offense, and a fumble recovery by
the defense.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Let's get it all sorted out.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
When it's all uncovered, it's Troy Don, It's got the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The year was two thousand and six. The Chargers were
fourteen and two. Marty Schottenheimer was the coach. It was
fourth and five in the fourth quarter with six twenty
five to go. The Chargers were up twenty one to thirteen,
and Tom Brady was picked off at the Chargers thirty
(11:58):
by Marlin McCree Marlona McCree. All he had to do
was go down. Instead, he was stripped of the football
by Troy Brown. Troy Brown, of course, did he play
both sides of the football that year.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They put him as a dB at times. Yes, I
do remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And Marla McCree makes a pick, gets stripped and the
Patriots rebound, score a touchdown, get a two point conversion,
and then won the game when the Chargers when Nate
Cating missed a fifty four yardfield goal, the most Charger
thing ever. And I'm watching last night and I saw
(12:37):
the fumble, I'm like, oh no, no, Barley McRae. And
then Jan Hurts gets and he fumbles again. So the
times are a change in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
By the way, when Doug did his piece on the
chair throwing last week, there was a comment on the
Instagram post that was so true and someone was making
fun of me that I was comparing your job to
fantasy football and how we would want to throw a
chair at during fantasy football. I was going up against
Chargers defense last night. Guys, that's four points. That was
(13:10):
two turnovers on one play for the Chargers defense.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh my gosh, the minute I had taken I had
taken the Chargers defense off of my team a couple
of games ago. I forget who they played against, Like, ah,
they're all banged up.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Nah, what a load of crap. It was nuts.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It was so so nuts. What a what a crazy,
crazy play. And by the way, I I I am
in the I am in the playoffs or no, yeah, yeah,
I'm in the championship quarterfinal here of my fantasy team.
But I stupidly took the Chargers off my roster and
then last night two turnovers in one play. All Right,
(13:49):
the story of the night was Jalen Hurts five turnovers
granted two in one play. Here's Jalen Hurts talking about
the loss.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I knew it was going to be a tight window throw.
I have to watch the film to see see it
from the eyes film's point of view. Ultimately, it's a
play that I didn't make. You got to handle the ball.
That's a play that we've we've made a million times
(14:16):
in that scenario versus a cloud corner, and I didn't
make that play this time around.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Definitely stings, Definitely stings. But how do you respond?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
And that's the only way I know how to look
at it?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Again.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
You're gonna see what type of resolve does does does
his team have with that? What type of resolve do
we have within with What's what's in us to respond
the way we want to? So what you gotta dig?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yep uh. Here's Nick Sirianni, their head coach, on Jail
and hurtsnight.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
This game is the ultimate team game. So it's all
it's never you know, it's never just on one person. Now, ultimately,
he always has the ball in his hands, and I
know he'll he'll wear a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And and on that, and and I got.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
To do about job of helping them in those scenarios. Again,
it's always it's never just on execution, right, It's it's
always that we look at ourselves as coaches first and
we help them be in position to succeed and then
execute right. So obviously never want to turn the ball over.
We've been pretty good at that, and tonight was a
(15:20):
little uncharacteristic of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Uh yeah, I would, I would say, so, you know,
it is it is curious that the Eagles really tried
to get the ball to AJ Brown, really try to
get the ball to a J.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Brown.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know, he had four drops. One drop led to
an interception. He is immensely talented. He doesn't block, and
you know, so oftentimes we had been critical or people
had been critical of the Eagles for the staleness of
their offense and how much they run the football. But
this is one of those things that can happen when
(15:57):
you throw the football and that's not always the strength
of your quarterback. They were dominating the game with Saquon Barkley.
He had one hundred and twenty two yards rushing six
point one yards of carry. Granted the fifty two yard
run ends up skewing it, but they're suddenly not running
Jalen Hurts hardly at all, Like they went from using
(16:19):
him as a weapon to now not utilizing him. And
it's really interesting what's happening to the Eagles this year
and what's happening to the Ravens this year where you
have two of the most dynamic weapons as quarterbacks, and
whether they're trying to protect them for the playoffs or
(16:39):
whether they feel like it limits their offense. Lamar Jackson
doesn't run as often, obviously doesn't isn't moving the same,
But it's like you're trying to make Lamar Jackson into
Philip Rivers, and I think the same of Jalen Hurts.
Like last year's style was good enough to win them
(17:02):
a Super Bowl. Why are you trying to force them
to be somebody and throw the ball forty times when
you're running the hell out of the ball against the Chargers,
especially in overtime, when you're already in fueld goal range,
and by forcing it you end up turning the ball over,
especially when Jalen Hurts had a tough night.
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It's a snowy day in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Got like
it was supposed to be. It's supposed to be like
three inches four inches. It's like an inch of snow.
It wasn't much, but more coming overnight. Whether I believe
by you guys, am I right? Is it eighty degrees
in southern California today? Dan Byer wearing a Are we going
(18:13):
with coral or salmon? It's the color coral or salmon?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I think it's more of a salmon color. What's got
some navy mixed into it?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You know this is interesting. This is a quick little
rant before we get to Tuesday Morning quarterback in the afternoon. Right,
is that there are things that have always been good,
but they were just made the wrong way. The easiest
one is Brussels sprouts, right, because traditionally Brussels sprouts are steamed, steamed, Sam,
(18:51):
did you or Jason or Dan grew up in a
household where your mom would steam Brussels sprouts?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay, no, you have the You admittedly have the diet
of a ten year old, so I know that's not
not you, damn.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
But Sammy, I think we did not eat Brussels sprouts
growing up. I don't think my parents felt the need
to push that on on their children and make us
suffer through that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Okay, food what big food in the seventies. I was
raised in the seventies. Brussels sprouts was big back then.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Are big now, okay, And when they're steamed. I know
they're big now, But when they were steamed, your whole
house would smell like flatulence.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Yeah, welling any vegetable is not is gross, but especially
brussels shirt especially.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Bustle flate his smell.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, now, you said they're big now now, why are
they big now?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Because you put them in the oven, you roasted.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Put or you flash fry them. In restaurants, I think
they flash fry them. Sure, sure, right, throw some balsamic
glaze on their little salt on there, like these are.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Amazing, some bacon bits or something.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, It's there's no difference in the vegetable. It's the
same vegetable. It's only in the way in which it's made.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's a presentation.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah right, it's all in. It's all in the presentation,
not in anything that's different. It's interesting. I'm watching last
night and I'm watching all those crazy Eagles fans at
the Monday night game. And when we were kids, they
would have those Kelly Green Eagles jerseys and I thought
they were the ugliest jerseys on earth. Okay, but now
(20:20):
and it's because they've widened the number. The numbers are crisper.
It's a sharper green and the and it just the
presentation is so much better. Same thing with the Broncos jerseys,
the throwback jerseys. Dan Like when the Broncos were the
Orange Crush, they were cool, but they weren't like now
they pop and I think they've tightened some of the lines.
(20:43):
They've made the white even brighter. The orange is a
slightly different hue. It's just a cleaner, crisper look. It's
the same uniform and same helmet, just a better cut,
a cleaner better presentation. Fair, yes, fair, right that I
was thinking, I don't know, it's these are these are
ran them thoughts that they'd come to my kind of
my brain. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's a Tuesday.
(21:05):
There are stories or storylines that have been missed by
us and by most of the media. Why Well, because
on a Monday, we had the college football playoff, we
had the Notre Dame complaints, we had the top line
NFL games. But I know Dan watches every game, every snap.
(21:25):
I know Jay stew and Sam do as well. I
watch as much as I can and then catch up
on Sunday nights and on Mondays. That's how we get
to Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Well, Tuesday, this is Tuesday Morning quarterback in the afternoon.
Mondays can be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we
didn't get.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
To on Monday.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Every Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
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Speaker 2 (22:08):
Dan Byer, Yes Tuesday Morning Quarterback. First of all, I
want to to say we wrote this team off earlier
on in the season and they.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Still made a right They didn't right back.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
They didn't right back. In fact, just to bring up
our Buffalo trip again, when Jason and I went to
the Bills Dolphins game and those great seats that Doug
got us, we wondered if it would be Mike McDaniel's
last game as the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
He's still the head coach. Not only that, he's expected
to be the head coach next year, and the Dolphins
are actually still in the playoff picture in the AFC.
Now there's they're gonna need a lot of help. But
this was a team that we thought just needed an
absolute reset, cleaning house top to bottom, get rid of
Chris Greer, McDaniel, get rid of to get rid of everybody,
(22:59):
Tyreek hilse Well, Tyrek Kill got injured. They did fire
Chris Greer, but they have found something. And beating teams
that you're supposed to beat is not a bad thing
in the National Football League. And it may not meet
that the Dolphins are going towards a Super Bowl next
year or the year after, but they had something to
Miami that for some reason was not coming out early,
(23:20):
but it's coming out now. And the Dolphins, i feel,
are a story that we're not going to talk about
because they're probably not going to make the postseason and
they're not going to be at the top of the draft.
But the turnaround from where they were pretty darn good,
all highlighted by the return trip with the Bills coming
to Miami and the Dolphins destroying them a few weeks ago.
They took care of the Jets with these after Tarad
(23:42):
Taylor was knocked out of the game this past weekend.
Dolphins are six and seven, same with the Ravens and Chiefs,
and we never talked about him until now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's a great point. Can I I'm going to add
to it, Okay, and I wouldn't completely write them off
even for the playoffs. Right at the Steelers, It's not
like the Steelers been great, right, Bengals at home? Right,
Joe Burrow's playing as of now? Does he play in
two weeks? I don't know. Buccaneers again at home, winnable game,
Patriots on the road. But the Patriots may have clinched
(24:12):
the number one seed. They may have been playing all
the Patriots backups in that game. It's it's possible at least,
so it's not over. But here here's the point that
at years I'm gonna put on my coaching hat for
a second. Who are the players that were on the
Dolphins to start the year who are not on the
Dolphins now?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The other one? Would they trade away Jalen Ramsey?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Ah ah huh? Are those guys seen as good or
bad culture guys?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, they're not. They're not.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm just telling you, like, yeah, I'm just telling you
that I had been told, and we talked about this
a little on the on the radio, that there is
a group that the the masses in Miami, the players
were like, those guys aren't about winning, aren't about winning?
And I think they kept the guys that are playing
the guys that are about winning, and whether or not
they get to the playoffs or not, they'll probably get
(25:06):
to five hundred, maybe above and hope maybe above nine
and eight. There is something about culture character over talent.
Gotta have some talent, but you can't do it if
you don't have character.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
Sam, remember when Baker Mayfield was a trendy MVP candidate
earlier in this season. Well, the Buccaneers have lost four
of the last five, and their most recent loss was
the bottoming out with a loss against the Saints. I
don't really know, just only on surface level. I know
(25:38):
what's going on with this Buccaneers team. If you guys
have further explanation, I can, yeah, Dan, tell me what's
going on with these Buccaneers, Dan.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
So the injuries have ended up catching up with them
a bit. Mike Evans has been out since Week seven.
Bucky Irving missed a significant portion of the season, but
a Mecca Buca has had an issue with draw slately.
Tristan Wurf's missed this past weekend's game against the Saints.
Chris Godwin is finally back into the fold, but he's
not the Chris Godwin of old, and their defense is
(26:10):
not as good, not nearly as good. You have Videvea
in the middle, but you can throw on them all
day long, and Tyler Schuck did that this past weekend
on that all day long. It was in a rainstorm,
but still the Saints converted keith or downs in their game.
Saints had no business winning that game. They were eight
and a half point underdog, and they basically played even
with the Buccaneers, who got in their own way, couldn't
(26:31):
convert fourth thounds, were two of five for ones that
really mattered. Yeah, just they're a mess right now.
Speaker 10 (26:37):
And it's uh and they have the Panthers twice, they
have the Dolphins, So you just spoke about who were
playing much better. So even getting the postseason seems like
it's kind of cloudy right now.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And who is that guy they were missing?
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Was it this guy they meet, a big boat man,
they need him back real bad.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well they have him back. It's he's had a case
of the drops, all the drop sets.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
Well, those Buccaneers, I remember that there was some play
the Baker made where he picked up a first down.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I forgot what game that was against.
Speaker 10 (27:03):
But they have some nice wins on the resume, but
four out of five they've lost, so a little worried
about them.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Let's go to Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'll take it from here. The Washington Commanders have my
attention today and this is going to entail a visual.
So I was able to send you guys on the
group text the picture, and Shapiro gave me access to
send a text message to everybody who's listening right now.
So you should have a text message on your phone
(27:31):
if you're a listener. It is a picture of the predictions. Now,
you know, I hate predictions, but these are kind of fun.
Dan Bayer every single year in the studio puts a
chart of things for us to kind of predict the
NFL season. So in early September I wrote down the
following that my pick to go out on a limb,
(27:53):
you know, go on a limb, take a chance, like,
have some balls, and go on a limb and predict something.
My pick was that the Commanders were not going to
make the playoffs. Now through their prism of today, you're like, yeah,
they suck their quarterbacks hasn't made good. But no, no, no, no.
They were the darlings of the offseason they were the Darlins.
(28:14):
In fact, all the people that talk that have NFL
content on their description on their Twitter handle was saying,
if we redrafted the twenty twenty four quarterback class, Jaden
Daniels by far is the number one pick in that draft,
Jade and Daniels And I know what you're thinking, listeners
as you're looking at this picture. But Jaden Daniels has
(28:38):
been injured. Yeah, no kidding. If that wasn't the one
thing that most scouts had an issue with coming into
the NFL. There are videos on Twitter and YouTube of
him getting his ass kicked at Arizona State and LSU
because he can't take hits because he steps into the
wrong hits. If only we could have predicted this, h well,
(29:01):
I did. They're not going to make the playoffs. I
think it's official. I think they're mathematically eliminated. And I
do want to I do want to mention one thing
I've been big on John Schneider. As Dan has avoid
talking about the Seahawks for the past several weeks, my
thing has been John Schneider has been out in front
of a lot of decisions. You know you don't want it,
you want to let a player or a coach go
a year before instead of a year after. And he
(29:24):
was right on Russell Wilson. He was right on Geno Smith,
he was right on Pete Carroll. He was even right
on DK Metcalf. He's like, I have a number one,
and that number one is the best receiver in the NFL.
And I will also say this, they chose Mike McDonald
over Dan Quinn. They could have brought back Dan quinn.
(29:45):
They chose Mike McDonald, And who could ever forget that?
I keep forgetting, keep keep forgetting that. Mike McDonald's gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
By the way, did you guys see the updated picture
that was sent in that group text? Did you? Were
you able to get the updated picture in that one?
I'm sure? Yeah, yeah. So it's so just an updated
picture of the standings because five spots above Jason's So
those picks were made sooner? Was me writing commanders missed
(30:17):
playoffs and out on a limb boom? I just yes,
it is also so I am I am in lockstep.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
I like how you guys used commander's colors kind of too,
some some red and yellow.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yes, all that looks like my handwriting? Did I? Did? I?
Put all that in for you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't get I thought I filled one out.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But Jason, but Doug, where are you dugged? Doug? You
were here like three times.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
But I was here. I was there right when you
guys had this, and it was kind of like it
was almost like you didn't want me to participates.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's exactly what Sam was like, We've got to figure
out a way to box Dug out of this. Doug.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
You could have radioed in your your picks.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
By the way rocket Ishmail did when the trophy. That's me,
I'm a dope, TI debtmer want.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
It my bad?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I can we can we talk about how the Raiders
are once again an abject disaster, and like, look, this
would happen six coaches in six years. That's there, six
coaches in six years. This is You walk into a
house that used to be beautiful, right, built in the
nineteen twenties, it's got unbelievable architecture, it's got great bones,
(31:27):
and then somebody came in. They're like, I'm gonna fix
this bad boy up. And then a year in they're like, yeah,
we don't like that contractor you know one of his
subsistance shows. I get another one, and another one, another one,
and like no rooms look the same, and why the
hell we hang on to Max Crosby? Like Max Crosby
is an elite football player, He's a ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Good, good football player.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Frock Bowers is an unbelievable football player. But putting those
two out there with what else we got going is
just I don't know, Like there was over the last
one d two years. The now Las Vegas Raiders have
had double digit winning seasons twice twice commitment to excellence
(32:12):
or excrement. They are bad and obviously the first thing
they need to do is find a quarterback. Find a quarterback,
but there's so many other holes, right, It's like, hey,
let's go fix up the kitchen, Like yeah, but the
what about the flooring? You know, what about everything? It's
what a mess? And I understood what you were doing
(32:36):
with Pete Carroll, right, you took an inexperienced guy in
Antonio Pierce. Now you get a super experienced guy. But
this is a rebuild, And yeah, it's a lot to
think that Pete Carroll at seventy four years old is
in it for a rebuild.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You gotta have the bones, gotta.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Have the bones. It's Tuesday Morning Quarterback in afternoon, Tuesday, Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
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Speaker 1 (33:23):
I want you guys to all look at your phone.
That's Jason Stewart, Dan Bayer and I was Sam, look
look at Look at the look on buyer's face. Is it?
He's looking at it. He's got that smile like it's
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Speaker 2 (34:20):
In the shotgun. A touchdown would win it for the Eagles.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
Kerts pulls it throwze.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Intercepted, game over, intercepted, game over, game over. The fourth
interception Tony Jefferson unbelievable, uncedes it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Uh, that's our our guy. Matt money Smith with the call.
The big story of the day is former Chargers quarterback
Philip Rivers has signed with the Indianapolis Colts as their
practice squad quarterback. This was yesterday thirty five PM on
(35:02):
the Doug Gottlieb Show with me and former Chargers GM
Tom Telesco. Okay, the signing was reported at five point fifteen,
so an hour and a half later. Here's our exchange
on this very show. Here we are, we're a December eighth.
You've been in a similar situation where I gotta find
(35:23):
a quarterback here you know who's on the street, and
I got a potential playoff team. What's this? What's the process?
Speaker 8 (35:30):
Like?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
How does it work well?
Speaker 12 (35:33):
At this point? Since you're past the trade deadline, you're
really your only chance. It's gonna have to be somebody
from your own roster at this at this point, unless
you just get lucky and there's a quarterback who's on
the street who's been in a Shane Steak spike in
offense before, I'd have to look it up for the
chances they're slim so well, I mean, you're.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Gonna gonna call Philip Rivers get him out of retirement.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Phillip recently. I
mean he's coaching high school football I think right now,
so I think that may not work well.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
They signed him. The guys were chuckling because I sent
them a meme I saw on social media that has
Philip Rivers at Seattle like a fantasy football sort of logo.
The over under is one hundred and twenty seven and
a half pass yards and there's a picture of Joe
(36:21):
Biden in a Colts jersey. It is fantastic. Whoever did that,
it is fantastic, fantastic And the best part is it
made all three of you guys smile. Right, that's the
idea of sports and social media. Stuck gott Leap Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in John Mettlcoff
(36:44):
and a finalist host of the Three and Out podcast.
What's gone so wrong with the Philadelphia Eagles?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That's a great question. I mean last night was a
combination of everything. You know, Jalen's turnovers. The first two
were really bad, obviously, you know, AJ had the drop
that turned into one and the last play I'd say
is a great defensive play as much as a bad,
bad path. I'd give the defense all the credit on
that one. So you got the quarterback off. AJ talked
(37:15):
the big game. I mean, that wasn't exactly his you know,
most glorious moment last night. He dropped the touchdown, had
a pick. It was because of him. You know, the
play callings when you get into a game like that
with the quarterback who's injured, with an offensive line who's terrible,
and a team that just wants to be grimy. You know,
(37:36):
the Eagles tried to play like they had Josh Allen
or Joe Burrell playing and passed the ball around the yard,
Like why didn't they have forty carries last night with
Saquon And every time on first down right they get stuffed,
It's like, oh, they're just going to go past pass.
And I just think that that's the type game. If
you reversed it and Jim Harbaugh was the coach, Saque
(37:57):
would have had forty carries. And I get the offensive
wise not as good as last year. They have clearly injuries,
got backups in there, but.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
He's averaging six point one yards to carry. Give him
the ball.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
It's insane. And in the moment too last night where
the Chargers they they run that take push push, he
takes the house. He goes like fifty miles an hour,
so like, okay, you know this guy still got some
stuff to him. They then they force a punt, they
get the ball back, they're up sixteen to thirteen. The
Chargers are in major trouble and they start passing the
ball and two plays later the ball goes off aged
(38:30):
his hands and it's the interception. It's like, what are
you doing here? And that Jim's won a lot of
games that are ugly over the course of his career.
That was pretty impressive given his offensive line. You know,
his quarterback. I don't know about you, but how many
times you hold your breast thinking to like, did he
break his hand more when he's lying on the ground.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
It was, it was, It was crazy. It's insane. But
somehow the Chargers found a way, which is the opposite
of traditional Charger football.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Isn't it.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's Hardbaugh Herbert toughness. The defense is obviously pretty pretty gritty.
I mean, Khalil, you know, it's still a really good player,
will have many years into his career. I mean, he's
you know, they that's a good personnel move, right, They
they kept him around. They got rid of Joey Bosa
and they reinvested into him and Khalil Mack is a
big time difference maker and their physicality on defense. I mean,
(39:22):
but the Eagles defense was excellent too. I mean, if
I'm if I'm one of the Eagles defenders, I'm like,
what are we doing? Well, We're dominating this game. How
are we losing it? And it's like, well yet ten turnovers?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Ten turnovers?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Show the double turnover? I mean, it's an Alzheimer, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Alzheimer? Alzheimer never say anything like it. I thought it
was a Marlon McCree play. And then all of a sudden,
US Hurdge fumbles it. Hedge fumbles it as well. You
do a lot of gambling. Okay, everybody is up in
arms and you talk a lot of gambling on the
three and Now podcast as well. The only thing I
(40:02):
can think of with Pete Carroll kicking that field goal
was you're just trying to keep it close and it
looks better on the scoreboard. Right here's Pete Carroll explaining
why he would kick a field goal to make it
a seven point game with five seconds to go.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
I can't bend and twist and go with whatever the
public sentiment is, or one person sentiment for that matter,
regardless of who it is. I just can't do that
and do my job the right way to the best
of my ability.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So if you notice it, I was.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
I was battling with the official making a plea for
because we saw eight second seven, which would have given
us a chance to kick the field goal, kicking on
site kick and maybe have a second left. And then
when it went down to five or went down to
three or whatever they did, and then they put it
back to five whatever, then I knew it was going
to look stupid, like you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Figure out why we were doing it.
Speaker 11 (40:50):
So there was a real clear thought what we were
trying to get down there, just to take it down
to the very last click. It might not be good
enough for you. I understand that, but that's what I think.
You could see what we were trying to do. It
just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Do you think there's is Do you believe in the
conspiracy theory that he was trying to stick it to
the Broncos and so they didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Cover I kind of believe what he's saying there. I mean,
I think at this point in time, the Raiders are
down so bad. You know, every point like a point
of pride for them. You know, I think Pete Carroll's
at the point he's so rich he couldn't even be
bought if they tried. I truly believe, you know, it's
(41:32):
always compete, you know, it makes sense, right, He's hoping
they're closer to ten seconds and maybe they got a
freak chance to take a field goal and then throw
a bomb. Now clearly once it's like he explained, I
hadn't even heard his audio, but it does make more
sense than just I wasn't really watching it live. It
was on one of the other TV's, but I mean
that game was a joke, and then I watching the replay,
(41:54):
it was kind of embarrassing, But I do understand what
he's saying, you could argue the reference he's calling the
delay of game or whatever was under tens Like, what
are we doing? Just get out of there.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I don't know, it was it was crazy. What what's happened?
Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Well, clearly he's injured because physically he doesn't look right,
you know, And I think anytime you see this a
lot in the NBA, right, like a freak athlete when
they're not moving right, You're like, something's a little off.
And you know, he's been banged up throughout the year
and a huge part of his game is predicated on
the movement, on the running around, and it's just it's
just not there. And you can tell from a dynamic
(42:35):
standpoint he looks a shell of himself. And then he's
not playing well on top of that, and they just
they just look off. And I mean that was I
mean they were down twenty to nine at one point
in that game. I mean, Rogers clearly kind of was
a throwback game for him. It looked pretty good. And yeah,
I mean obviously they needed a little you know, referee,
(42:58):
whether the letter is a law, I mean forever when
we were kids. Obviously, the basketball rule is the best, right,
it's two guys with the sideline. Whether you're playing in
the NBA or whether you're playing a pickup game, you
always knew, okay, it's your ball. And now the slow
motion replay, it's like, oh, Mike, what it's off his fingernail.
It's no different with the Cats, Like historically, of course
(43:19):
that's a catch's touchdown. But I do think with technology
we have almost overcomplicated the game in parts that used
to be a no brainer, like that's a touchdown. You
move on.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. The Packers
beat the Bears, did you learn more about the Packers
or the Bears?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I mean, I'm I picked Packers and go to Super Bowl, so, like,
I know, their high ends pretty high. I mean, Jordan's
playing well, Watson coming back has really changed and he's
got five touchdowns in four games. He looks so fast. So,
I mean all the pressure was on Green Bay. I mean,
you had to win that game at home, and they
were at fourteen to three. They came out out ready.
It was impressive. I learned a lot about the Bears.
I mean that seventeen play, nine minute drive in a
(44:07):
spot where you had to have it with some of
those play calls by Ben and you know, Caleb's making
a lot of plays on the move. You know, it
was it was really impressive, and you know, I think
part of the reasons I like the Broncos this week,
can green Bay match that level for three straight weeks?
(44:27):
I mean that was that was a war zone game
really for both teams. Same thing with Chicago. You know,
now they're a little lucky they get the Browns, but
if Chicago was playing a you know, a good team,
I'd be like, it's coming off that game that they
takes a lot out of you for both teams, and
I think it's gonna be a tough spot for green
Bay going on the road knowing they got Chicago the
following week that if they if they if they sweep them,
(44:50):
they're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
So if you told them at the beginning of this
three game stretch, hey you're gonna go you know, two
and one, they would pick the two Bears games, right.
So I'm a little interested to watch green Bay and
Chicago like that. That's a game you know forever it
was like if you played the Lions the next week.
A couple of years ago you would get boat raced.
It happened with the forty nine Ers a couple of
years ago too, just because those games physically take so
(45:13):
much out of you. And that was I'm glad the
Bears are good because that game was That was theater.
I mean, that was that second half was as good
a football game as you're gonna watch.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
That was great high level NFL football games. Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. For my money, you can't
have Shador Sanders next year unless he's going to be
the starter, and you don't draft somebody in the first round,
right because there's just too much noise that follows him.
Is that is that a fair statement?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah? I mean you're not going to draft a guy
two overall and have Shador Sanders and you know at
the backup, right right.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I mean he could be a backup, but all the
noise that follows him, you can't. It doesn't work, right,
It'll always well undercase, it's like.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
What are you going to have a quarterback petitioner? He's
going to give it to the first rounder than everyone's
the first round.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
That's yeah, right, Okay, Uh, where are you in the idea?
Of he's going to be the starter long term.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Well, I mean, I definitely think it depends where they land.
I also think, you know, Shador listened. I mean, he
was a better prospect in most people's mind. I would
imagine if you pulled most NFL gms still and Gabriels
like a borderline undrafted free agent. So I think the
indictment on the Browns is like, you guys pulled the
(46:32):
trigger on a third round pick, which is pretty powerful,
and you took a guy that most teams would have
been like, this guy does not near talented enough, and
then we watched him play and I'm like, I don't know, man,
this is kind of crazy. So now we're going to
give you guys the juice to do it again, you know,
on a really really high pick. I mean if I
was and listen, it doesn't happen very often anymore, but
(46:54):
I would be if if I'm like Fernando Mendoza, I
am not going to Cleveland. You know, it's one of
those where you got to l Way or an Eli, like,
I'm not messing with that, And you could argue all
the teams that are going to be in the mix,
like it's like do you want to go play? I mean,
this sounds crazy because he's a legendary guy, but this
Pete Carroll situation, I don't want that. I mean these teams, like,
(47:15):
I want no part of any of these teams. Draft
and High. So you know, Chador is clearly an upgrade
over Dylan Gabriel. We'll see. You know, there is a
big and a lot of people paying attention to this week.
He's playing games, getting a lot of eyeballs. You keep
making explosive plays. I mean the one throw that he
made to Judy for the touchdown. No Judy was opened
behind the defenders, but it was a dry throw, like
(47:35):
it was really nice. He's always been able to have
those touch throws in the end zone. Like Shador has
a lot of touch. He just got to be careful. Sometimes.
I think he thinks he's like Caleb Williams and he
tries to run away and it doesn't really work because
he's not He's not his father. So that was a
pretty promise and I get it some Titans, but relative
to what they were used to with Dylan Gabriel, it's like, yeah,
(47:55):
I mean Shador the Deshaun Watson story breaking last weekend
too was kind of weird, like what Cleveland is just
a mess?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, let's stop breaking news that Clive is mess. Last thing?
What's the chances Philip Rivers takes a snap this year?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
How awesome is it? Can you what time do you
think if his workout was at nine o'clock this morning?
Do you think he was like in the hotel gym
stretching of six am? Yes, I mean he approached this
thing like the super Bowl, and that's why we all
love him, I think, really, I I mean, obviously DJ's
gone is the answer. Richardon on injured reserve and I
saw Sike and said yesterday part of the reason why
(48:32):
I was like, why are they doing? Is Riley Leonards injured?
So it shows you in which I respect, Like, don't
go sign some you know Deadmond Ritter.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
You you can't. You have to sign someone who knows
the system.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, this guy, it turns out Phillipson running it with
his high school team right and him and Shane or Boys.
I mean they've known each other right forever. Now, I
mean he wasn't moving well whatever four or five years ago.
This you know, this will league where you kind of
got to move there aren't many statutes anymore, and he's
never had the greatest arm. I would imagine if he
(49:06):
was throwing eighty eight, what's he throwing now eighty two?
It's I you better be careful, you know, It's just
you could get injured those bones. There's no way he's
been training the same. I respect it, and I get
the Colts, but it could also be kind of something
scary could happen.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
I mean, he could see that.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
That's actually what a GM friend of mine was like,
this might not be safe. My thing is, I think
they brought him in. He may play a game. I
don't think he can play multiple games, but he becomes
the quarterback whisper to whoever is actually the quarterback, because
he knows this thing cold and like the de facto
quarterback coach for whoever is actually out there.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
This thing is unraveling on that. I mean for a
team that you know, traded two first round picks for
soft Gardener, obviously he's injured their quarterback situation. I mean
you start looking at that that schedule, you go, is
this team gonna finish eight to nine? I mean, even
if the Rivers started, honestly, they could be worse with
rivers than they would Eiley Leonard right. So it's kind
(50:03):
of I mean, I don't remember a turn of events
that you go, oh, this thing is one thing to
lose and finish, you know, bad, like the Eagles right
now or a couple of years ago. But to not
have your first round picks, that's pretty that's a The
Jets got to be feeling pretty good about that trade
right now, don't they.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yes, they do. That's that's our guy, John Mitlecoff. You
can check out the Three and Out podcast the Volume
Podcast Network. John, thanks so much for joining us
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