December 16, 2025 • 30 mins
Doug reacts to Lavar Arrington's take on the Steelers. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today, including an animated exchange about sports superstitions. Plus, Jaylen Brown makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Hey,
welcome in, Oh boo, how are you? What's going on?
How's your day? This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome in. Let's get the Fox.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Says and now what does the thought say?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Everyday?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This time in the Bonus podcast to play for you
a previous version of a Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports
One show. Here's Nick right talking about the end of
this chapter of his his favorite team.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
To cancel the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
This is the end of this chapter. And you can
put these seven years up against any seven years in
NFL history. Oh yeah, it's seven years. It's seven conference
title appearances, it's five super Bowl appearances. It's three rings
in a seven year stretch. Only the Steelers have more
(01:11):
rings in a seven year stretch. Right, No, But I
mean for the team, because I think there's the chapter
for a team like the Chiefs are now going to
be entering a new era. Andy will still be there
next year, I believe, And the year after, but at
some point in this there'll be a new coach Travis.
(01:33):
Either yesterday was the last game with Travis and Patrick
together or next year will be they also, I think,
and again I'm searching for silver linings. I think the
next few weeks are going to force the team to
hold a mirror up to how much fifteen was holding together,
(01:57):
because I believe they are going to lose to the
Tennessee Titans next week.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I mean, we talked about this yesterday that this era,
this run is over.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
The question is how do you get it back?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And that's where really where rebuild and reload meet, Okay,
is are you gonna go out and sign free agents
and try and flip it quickly and get even more
juice out of the Orange or are you gonna scrap
it and start to draft and know it may take
a year to get everybody back where you want to
(02:35):
get him? I think with Mahomes, with the new information
that mahomes surgery already took place, that's because the LCL
is very likely to have also been torn, which will
make his rehab a little bit more difficult, which makes
him on course to play next year, but maybe not
be there for the first game of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
If it's me, I rebuild, not reload.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And again where I differentiate is do you go with
younger players and try and load up in the draft
knowing you're gonna take some knocks.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Early and see the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Or do you try and quick fix it and get
guys that already made that a play that it may
just be a year of them in Kansas City. And
I think with again, with the injury that came out,
the news of the injury that came out last night,
which is surgery has already been performed. If you asked why,
I looked, I researched. I tried to find the doctor
David Chow guy who's the one who said that you
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only do it that quickly if the LCL is damaged,
because then it's a true repair. You're not rebuilding it
the way you rebuild your ACL. I think that this
means you rebuild, you don't reload. Here's Colin Cowhert talking
about Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I wish he completed more than fifty eight and a
half percent of his throws. I do think that's a
little low. But there are three quarterbacks in this league
Josh Alan, Patrick Mahomes, and Caleb Williams. I can't lose
that much sleep on it. I'll give you an example.
Let's say you had a child seven eight years old
(04:10):
that had been tested and you had what they call
a gifted child. Top one of one percent was playing Beethoven.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
At eight years old.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You're really gonna lose sleep that three four times a week.
He puts his pajamas on backwards. You got Beethoven down
the hall. Get over it. Not every kid ages grows
the same way, Not every quarterbacks the same Okay, I'm
not losing a ton of sleep. I think sixty one
percent probably where you're going to go. But everybody's talking
(04:42):
about how accurate Josh Allen is this year. That's because
he throws the tight ends. He never throws the ball
down the field. Aaron Judge one season led baseball in strikeouts.
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, So he's he's saying that Caleb Williams is more
accurate because he's throwing to wide receive to tye it,
not doing check down.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Charlie, I think the best thing Caleb Williams is he
has the.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Fewest number of interceptions for young player to throw a
thousand passes. That said, maybe it's because he's inaccurate even
when throwing to the other team. He's taken some major strides.
They're a good football team. I still think it's a
work in progress as to whether or not he's your
long term solution for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You're not getting rid of him.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm just saying in terms of what the second contract
looks like, the answer is.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Still not there just yet.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Here's LeVar Arrington, part of two Pros to Kapa Joe
talking about last night's Steelers win or the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
To me, that was not going to be an easy
win for the Pittsburgh Steelers and in fact could have
maybe expose warts that existed with this Steelers team. They
passed that test. They passed that test. Now they are
two games above five hundred, They're playing better defense. This
was probably Aaron Rodgers' best showing as a quarterback for
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this team this year. They're coming off of a big
win against the divisional rival in the Baltimore Ravens. It
just says to me, you cannot you cannot make the
come to the conclusion that this is a one and
done playoff football team. If you're looking at the entirety
and the scope of what's going on in the National
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Football League right now, especially on the AFC side of
the cart, like, there are some good teams. They're just unproven.
They're unproven.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean, I think on both sides. I mean,
I don't want unproven. I mean, you have the Buffalo Bills,
who are there. The Patriots are unproven, but the defense
is full of veterans that they they signed this free agents.
The Chargers, yeah they're unproven, but they also they're just
banged up. I'd say the Broncos are unproven, but their
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defense has been stellar for a couple of years. I
don't think it's unfair, but I mean, when one team
thoroughly dominates a conference for the better part of a decade,
anybody who comes in outside of Buffalo who's been right
there as a challenger is going to be unproven.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's what the Fox Says say.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
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Speaker 3 (07:31):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Hey, Doug. I think what people, what listeners appreciate about
this podcast is that we have like a common sense
approach to social issues. Common sense, you know, not on
one side or the other, just common sense. I think
one assistant coach come up to you of opposing teams
and say, I like the podcast. I think they're referring
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to the common sense approach to social issues. Yes, and
I think that you can call my opinions right leaning
and I won't have a problem with it. I do
have a problem with you calling me MAGA. I believe
in a public social safety net that runs contrary to MAGA.
(08:29):
I don't have a passion about guns. If they all
went away, I'd be fine with that. That's contrary to MAGA.
They hate that. I believe in a woman's right to
abort her child and her choice to do so. That's
that's not a MAGA thing. And the chief of MAGA,
the top top of the food chain. I have serious
(08:51):
issues he purports himself. He presents himself as a despicable
human more times than you should as president of the
United States. So let's get that settled. I'm not maga. Okay,
this next opinion might be right leaning though, So in
(09:13):
these cases you get the the parts of the left,
I guess progressive left that are just not fun that
you're like, they should never be invited to parties.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Rachel Nichols had the goal to present this question to
Shay Gildus Alexander.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
So because Asia was named Time Magazine's Athlete of the
Year and she's doing a bunch of interviews and talking
about her and Bam and their relationship. She's like, we
want to have kids together. And someone joked that Sam
Presty would be at the sonogram if they had kids together.
Is he that much of a scout?
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Sam takes his job very serious and whatever it takes
to be great, he will do.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
So that's what it takes.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's what it takes, all right.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
So van Adebayo and Asia Wilson, watch out if you
guys ever decide to have kids, Sam Presti's gonna knock
on your door.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Rachel Nichel says that somebody said that Sam Presty is
going to be there at the birth of the child
of Asia Wilson and Bam and a Bayou whatever his name,
is because Sam Presty is that far ahead on talent,
sirch as a joke. It was meant as a joke,
a very tongue in cheek. But for the no fun lefties,
(10:29):
the no fun leftist this was some kind of like
a Jimmy the Greek thing. Now Jimmy the Greek for
those that don't know this. In the early eighties, had
an unfortunate interview where he compared where he was asked
why blacks are great athletes and he talked about how
it all goes back to slaves and breeding strong slaves.
(10:52):
Very racist. He got canceled, and to get canceled in
the early eighties that says a lot. That means he
was very racist and deserved everything that he got. This
had nothing to do with that. But I went down
a rabbit hole last night and a lot of the
progressive left white women, which is one of the things
I hate about the woke agenda is that it's mainly
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white women that are being disingenuine and being offended for
other races. When they ran this by Asia Wilson, she's like,
that's an odd question. I guess it's a slow news day.
She wasn't being Rachel. The actual black subject of Rachel
nichols question was not offended. But white leftist, woke people
(11:39):
are comparing Rachel Nichols to Jimmy the Greek. That's annoying.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
There's a lot there.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It is annoying the people that are offended if you're
not actually involved or implicated or anything. It was a
butchered line by Rachel Nichols because she's just not funny, right,
And and I know that that, uh, that line has
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been told before, Like, that's not the first time anybody
around athletics has said I'll be at the sonogram.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's how on top of it, he is, right, but
she that's not her. She does not have comedic timing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Com what was it the famous what's his name? What's
the guy? White hair?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Shoot, George Carlin.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Not George Carlin. He was the movie Parenthood. He was
the star of Honey Eye Shrunk the Kids. He was
in Not Rick moranis the white haired guy?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
What does it called?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Steve Martin?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Steve Martin, Steve Martin in the stand up comedy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You say, comedy is all about tie tye timing, right,
And I think that's part of what made it sort
of awkward, but yeah, like if you're offended by that,
I mean, just there's so many things that you can
reasonably be offended by, but you're trying to be offended.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, just so aware.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Like I think Rachel's pretty far left, So I think
that's come out before I know what she said, what
she got caught on tape, and maybe she's done that
because she sort of got canceled for what she said
about how she was out of a gig at at ESPN,
but I don't know. Yeah, the wo Karen's are fucking
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annoying to everybody, everybody, so thank you for pointing it out.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I'm gonna keep it white and talk about something else
that's racist. Cam Newton. He wants to be the person
that all black quarterbacks look to when they think about
their future and media.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
That's why this is important, because I'm going to work
my ass off to open up as many opportunities as
I possibly can.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
Whether why you always talking about ja you heard no man,
you hate no dog on should do it because when
they get done, they will have more opportunities because of
the things that I did and the people who came
from before me did so when they are able to
say day, what I'm gonna do after football because I
can't play this forever. I want to do that, and
(14:24):
I would want the narrative to be we need to
go get somebody like Cam Newton.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
So there's there's how many things are wrong with this
other than the fact that Cam thinks he's good at media.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
He thinks he's good and he he thinks that he
obviously thinks that that people in the media don't want
to hire a black quarterback, which is also like, what
are we doing here, Bud? Like RG three is not good,
wasn't good at the ESPN, isn't good at Fox. Now
(14:58):
we'll probably always have a job. You know why because
RG three bright enough fella Heisman Trumphy winner, happens to
be black, right like super successful. And you know, while
I think he says things that are actually inaccurate, and
I think he says things for effect instead of saying
things that have effect, RG three is employed. Like I
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guarantee every executive at all of these networks we love
to have black quarterback on their stage. But you know,
we could kind of go through the ones who have retired,
but there wasn't a ton and the best part about
it is the part that you point out that he
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thinks he's good, and he thinks he's like, hey, I'm
going to help these guys out. How I mean, his
level of arrogance is unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
You think Russell's the same guy, Go ahead, I'm sorry
you think Russell Wilson, the guy that you you've predicted
can do some TV, is gonna rush down game film
of Cam Newton. I said this about him recently, so
it sounded in that SoundBite like he wants people to
take him serious. Obviously, he's the trailblazer for black quarterbacks
as media members. And if you ever want to be
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taken seriously, then you have to stop being a clown.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yes, take day of the hat.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Most of his content is clownish and and and it's
it's it's hard to watch, it's so clownish. And then
the hat. You got to lose the hat, and you
got to stop being a clown if you want to
be taken serious.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
If you want to not be a clown, you can't
wear clown shoes.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I tell people all the time, yep. At work, you
know the guy that just kind of goes around at
work and just wants to have fun and fuck around.
You could be do you want to be the class
clown because I'll just put you in the class clown compartment?
Or do you want to be taken serious as a
co worker. We're in a professional environment here, Which one
do you want? Don't go both ways. I could just
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put you in the compartment and never take you seriously,
and I'll just do that. But when it comes to me,
you're trying to get me to take you seriously, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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Speaker 7 (17:13):
There was something that happened on this podcast a week
ago that made a lot of waves on Twitter and whatnot,
and it had to do with our technical producer Iosam Sam,
and you could correct open the mic and correct me
if I'm wrong. He doesn't think that people who have
superstitions are smart, Like he doesn't believe in superstition, So
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then he he goes the next step and judges you
if you are superstitious. In other words, I'm not religious,
I don't have a faith, but I don't go the
next step and make fun of people who do That's
that's to me, that's a bridge too far. Sam, does
that goes that extra step?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I don't.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
I don't recall making fun of anybody you call them Rubes. No,
I didn't. I don't know where you're complicated, Rubes. I
said that on a podcast. I don't remember saying that. Well,
I don't know. I don't. I don't. I feel like
that's been embellished, so I don't tell you.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Well, this might be triggering to Sam. This is Ben Johnson,
who by all accounts is held in high regard by
decision makers in the NFL. He must be exceptionally smart
because Ben Johnson is the the the big coordinator, the
highly sought after coordinator that became a head coach, and
(18:38):
now he has his team near first place. You know,
part of the opinion that I have about superstitious people
in sports is that if you came up and you
played competitive team sports, that you have so much on
the line, you put so much effort into this as
a team and a coaching staff, you've prepared yourself. Nobody
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could speak to this more than Doug Gottlie that you
just don't want the littlest thing to fuck with it.
That's what superstition is. You don't want a change of
the vibe, a change of the air in the room.
You just want everything to be perfect going into a competition.
You don't want to have anything to blame it on.
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So Ben Johnson talked about Caleb William's effort in on Sunday.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
He did a great job. You know, it's a hard
thing to do, is be comfortable when a pass rush
is like that. Yeah, I thought it was a good week,
form a step in the right direction. And you know
I told him this afternoon, I said, whatever you ate
for breakfast yesterday, we just need to keep doing that
on game day from here on out.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Now, why would you want to eat the same thing
for breakfast? Are you willing to call Ben Johnson a rube?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Sam?
Speaker 11 (19:51):
I think you want to eat the same thing for
breakfast because you know how it's going to treat your
body if you go and have decide to have biscuits
and gravy when you've been eating oatmeal, have the ships,
and then you don't play very well. So it might
have something to do with superstition, but I don't. I honestly,
I don't remember saying that stuff. If I said to
you that off off the air, then I think that's
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where it should stay.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Wait so you don't want to own your comments.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Yes, so now he's say it.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
No, I don't remember saying I don't remember if he
said I don't remember. If I called anybody was.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
A technical producer of this year podcast, you could go
and very very easy.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I'm fine.
Speaker 11 (20:31):
No, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You don't care about the content of the show.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
No, I don't care about something that you're saying.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You don't care about the show.
Speaker 11 (20:38):
This is what Jason does. He'll take something I mentioned off.
You're busting my balls. Yeah, you're all busting my balls.
There's nothing left down there.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, God, here here is my point.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
If you missed last week's podcast. I am not not superstitious.
That's the way Jason. That's the way I want to
I want to be.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
How about this, Doug, how about this?
Speaker 7 (21:00):
For me?
Speaker 11 (21:00):
Personally, I can say I'm not superstitious. But in the
words of Michael Scott, I'm a little stitious. How about
that Middle Green?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I like that. I do like that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm not gonna copy Michael Scott though, the great Steve Crow.
What I am going to say is I'm not not superstitious.
I will do the same thing, Like we'll do that
with what we wear, you know, like we college coaches,
we plan out like, all right, what are we wearing?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
What? What quarters? Ziph are we wearing? What pants are
we wearing? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And you know, I'll give you an example. We first
win we've ever had in green uniforms was our last game,
and I fucking hate our green uniforms. I don't hate
the green, I don't hate the shorts, I don't necessarily
hate the time.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I just think they could be better.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And as you guys know, I think we've discussed, like
I'm actually in charge of the entire budget. So it's
like thirty five hundred bucks for a new set of uniforms,
Like I could use that elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So for our black ones, we changed the tops. They
look great.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'd like to change the bottoms too, but that's another
seventeen hundred bucks. So anyway, point is that when we
came out, I did the show on when when was
My last kid? On Thursday we came out. I was
thinking about you guys on Thursday because I walk out,
I do the radio show, I go from the studio
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to the game. I get there, they're all doing their pregame.
're like two hours for the game or hour and
a half for the game, and they're wearing green uniforms.
And I turned to Caden, the captain, who's my director
of ops. I'm like, fuck, man, you didn't ask me
about the green uniforms because you knew what my answer
would be. He's like, what, we haven't lost in him?
I was like, we haven't had I said, we have
lost in him. It's like, well, we we've used the
(22:40):
black We just lost in the Black Ones, so I
thought i'd switched it up. It's like, you didn't think
about asking me. It's like, dude, we lose this fucking game.
We're never wearing the green uniforms again, fucking ever. Fucking
burn them. So we won, they'll live on to see
another day. My point is that I am not saying
we won because of the green uniforms. I'm not saying
that I am a little or superstitious. I'm saying I'm
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not not superstitious. I'm not gonna attend faith. We played
Campbell on the twenty third. Do you don't couple of uniforms.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We're gonna wear.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
The green ones.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Fuck yeah, we're gonna wear the green ones them. We
just wanted them. And again, I don't think that it matters.
I don't. I really don't think it matters. I don't
think it matters.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But I'm not gonna do if it does matter, I'm
not gonna be the guy that goes it matters.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
And I didn't care to be honest, it's the power
of faith. These things that you can't prove or see
is faith. So if you think it helps, and your
players think it helps, you know what. The largest selling
non fiction book of all time outside of the Bible
is The Power of Positive Thinking. It was in like
the sixties. I forget who what the old name is?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Hold On? Is it really again?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You just threw out a fact which I don't know
of it's actual effect.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Oh, I have no idea, but I once read that
that that was the largest.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Hold On.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
You sold the ship out of that one, right, because
I was like, that's fucking good.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I need to read that book anyway, Go ahead, Power Positive.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Thinking, and that entire book is about these unprovable things.
If you go into a situation with positive thinking, positive
results will happen. It's just it's a mindset more than
it is like a I can't see it, so I'm
not going to believe in it type of thing. So
the So to wrap up this conversation, Doug, I think
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you've said you're superstitious, but you're not superstitious whatever. But
the question is, are you going to judge people who
are because you see it all the time?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Do you judge people are religious?
Speaker 7 (24:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Really really religious?
Speaker 10 (24:43):
No.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
I think that having a faith is actually, in a
lot of ways admirable. If you can if you can
put your if you can put your your head on
the pillow every night, believing that there is a higher power,
or believing that this this life on earth is simply
a pregame for a massive party. After that's an amazing belief,
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Like you're you are going to be a happier person.
So I, as a cynical negative person, I actually admire
people with faith.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I admire people who live by what they believe. I
don't know if I don't know if I admire I
do feel like there it's a little bit it can
it can feel a little culty when you're like go
along with everything that is said to you in church,
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and that's exactly what you do in exactly what you
think when there's.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
A robotic nature to it. Does that make.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Sense again, I'm just being honest with my I'm a
I'm not a judgmental person, but it is something that
I do judge people about. When everything is about Jesus,
everything is about the religion.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It can be Jesus, can be Muhammed, it can be whatever.
I think.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
There's a level of fanaticism towards anything. Same thing with atheists,
like I don't care if you're atheist, that's fine. Like
if you are and there ends up being a heaven, like, yeah,
you kind of fuck that one up. It's the it's
the proclamation of your religion or lack thereof, and the
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I I am sure that I am right and everything
else is wrong, and I will go one by somebody
else's determination of what I should do. That I'm like,
But I generally believe that people like that that irritate
me are the ones that I feel it's phony. They
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don't live it, they just say it. We go yeah,
So anything else annoying.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
You, No, that's it. You have Sam's judgment of Ben Johnson,
Cam Newton's take on being a Trailblazer quarterback and the
reaction to Rachel Nichols as Jimmy the Greek.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I'm gonna do Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's just the like Cam Newton just started doing television.
And let me make sure I say this, ninety five
percent of people who just start doing TV.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Are bad at are bad at it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He is really not good at it because he has
no he is yet to get to the point where
he accepts any of the flaws of his career, has
any sort of, you know, reasonable take. He's still in
this super defensive Everything has comes down to race thing,
(27:40):
and there is the clownishness, which I don't watch first Take,
so I don't know if it exists, but I do know,
and I actually have a I feel I understand this part.
One of the things that's bad about first take and
why all those people are bad in other television settings
is because there's no I'm limit on how long they talk.
(28:01):
They just fucking talk, which I know I have in radio,
and I can tell you that some of it's real
and some of it is perception that when you're a
radio guy, when you're a person that talks in seven
minute can talk for seven minutes straight.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
In a monologue.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Anytime you go long on television, you're judged as well.
He's a radio guy. He doesn't know when to shut
the fuck up. He has no idea how to be
concise with what he says. He doesn't truly have a
grasp of who he was as a player, or how
he's perceived or anything. I mean, just again, the idea
(28:40):
at this point in his life, the idea that when
Philip Rivers came back, he'd want to know he thought
he wasn't getting a call because of the circus it
would create, not even talking about like I had a
shoulder injury and I couldn't throw a football. And when
I say can't throw football, it's not that you can't
throw it. You don't throw it like an NFL player, quarterback,
(29:01):
the best of the best of the best. But he's
so obnoxious and annoying. It's easy, Cam Newton, you're annoying.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
This SoundBite reminds me of one of my favorite scenes
in UH. There's something about Mary, very politically incorrect. I
don't even think you could put this in a movie. Nowadays.
But when Matt Dillon is talking about Cameron Diaz's special
needs brother, and he's talking about how he used to
(29:40):
work with those people and how they used to let
him out of their cage, and she's like, you put
him in a cage, and he's I'm not going to
tell anybody to run my life anyways. This is Jaylen
Brown talking about Scottie Barnes and he got in a
little trouble for it. So this is Jleen Brown streaming
something because he's injured. He's just playing video games and
(30:01):
he talks about Scotty Barnes.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
Scottie Barnes is strong as shit. This motherfucker guy like that,
you know. I like that he got that extra chromosome
strength like he had just like just some type of
Ninja turtle or something that mom that boy's strong as hell.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I like the Ninja Turtle one. That's fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I was, you know, it's I didn't watch the Ninja
I don't know anything about Ninja Turtles other than I
liked the movie, the first movie.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I didn't see the second movie. But that's a funny bite.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Says and now what does the thought say?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Everyday?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This time in the Bonus podcast to play for you
a previous version of a Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports
One show. Here's Nick right talking about the end of
this chapter of his his favorite team.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
To cancel the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
This is the end of this chapter. And you can
put these seven years up against any seven years in
NFL history. Oh yeah, it's seven years. It's seven conference
title appearances, it's five super Bowl appearances. It's three rings
in a seven year stretch. Only the Steelers have more
(01:11):
rings in a seven year stretch. Right, No, But I
mean for the team, because I think there's the chapter
for a team like the Chiefs are now going to
be entering a new era. Andy will still be there
next year, I believe, And the year after, but at
some point in this there'll be a new coach Travis.
(01:33):
Either yesterday was the last game with Travis and Patrick
together or next year will be they also, I think,
and again I'm searching for silver linings. I think the
next few weeks are going to force the team to
hold a mirror up to how much fifteen was holding together,
(01:57):
because I believe they are going to lose to the
Tennessee Titans next week.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I mean, we talked about this yesterday that this era,
this run is over.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
The question is how do you get it back?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And that's where really where rebuild and reload meet, Okay,
is are you gonna go out and sign free agents
and try and flip it quickly and get even more
juice out of the Orange or are you gonna scrap
it and start to draft and know it may take
a year to get everybody back where you want to
(02:35):
get him? I think with Mahomes, with the new information
that mahomes surgery already took place, that's because the LCL
is very likely to have also been torn, which will
make his rehab a little bit more difficult, which makes
him on course to play next year, but maybe not
be there for the first game of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
If it's me, I rebuild, not reload.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And again where I differentiate is do you go with
younger players and try and load up in the draft
knowing you're gonna take some knocks.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Early and see the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Or do you try and quick fix it and get
guys that already made that a play that it may
just be a year of them in Kansas City. And
I think with again, with the injury that came out,
the news of the injury that came out last night,
which is surgery has already been performed. If you asked why,
I looked, I researched. I tried to find the doctor
David Chow guy who's the one who said that you
(03:31):
only do it that quickly if the LCL is damaged,
because then it's a true repair. You're not rebuilding it
the way you rebuild your ACL. I think that this
means you rebuild, you don't reload. Here's Colin Cowhert talking
about Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I wish he completed more than fifty eight and a
half percent of his throws. I do think that's a
little low. But there are three quarterbacks in this league
Josh Alan, Patrick Mahomes, and Caleb Williams. I can't lose
that much sleep on it. I'll give you an example.
Let's say you had a child seven eight years old
(04:10):
that had been tested and you had what they call
a gifted child. Top one of one percent was playing Beethoven.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
At eight years old.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You're really gonna lose sleep that three four times a week.
He puts his pajamas on backwards. You got Beethoven down
the hall. Get over it. Not every kid ages grows
the same way, Not every quarterbacks the same Okay, I'm
not losing a ton of sleep. I think sixty one
percent probably where you're going to go. But everybody's talking
(04:42):
about how accurate Josh Allen is this year. That's because
he throws the tight ends. He never throws the ball
down the field. Aaron Judge one season led baseball in strikeouts.
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, So he's he's saying that Caleb Williams is more
accurate because he's throwing to wide receive to tye it,
not doing check down.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Charlie, I think the best thing Caleb Williams is he
has the.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Fewest number of interceptions for young player to throw a
thousand passes. That said, maybe it's because he's inaccurate even
when throwing to the other team. He's taken some major strides.
They're a good football team. I still think it's a
work in progress as to whether or not he's your
long term solution for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You're not getting rid of him.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm just saying in terms of what the second contract
looks like, the answer is.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Still not there just yet.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Here's LeVar Arrington, part of two Pros to Kapa Joe
talking about last night's Steelers win or the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
To me, that was not going to be an easy
win for the Pittsburgh Steelers and in fact could have
maybe expose warts that existed with this Steelers team. They
passed that test. They passed that test. Now they are
two games above five hundred, They're playing better defense. This
was probably Aaron Rodgers' best showing as a quarterback for
(06:01):
this team this year. They're coming off of a big
win against the divisional rival in the Baltimore Ravens. It
just says to me, you cannot you cannot make the
come to the conclusion that this is a one and
done playoff football team. If you're looking at the entirety
and the scope of what's going on in the National
(06:22):
Football League right now, especially on the AFC side of
the cart, like, there are some good teams. They're just unproven.
They're unproven.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean, I think on both sides. I mean,
I don't want unproven. I mean, you have the Buffalo Bills,
who are there. The Patriots are unproven, but the defense
is full of veterans that they they signed this free agents.
The Chargers, yeah they're unproven, but they also they're just
banged up. I'd say the Broncos are unproven, but their
(07:01):
defense has been stellar for a couple of years. I
don't think it's unfair, but I mean, when one team
thoroughly dominates a conference for the better part of a decade,
anybody who comes in outside of Buffalo who's been right
there as a challenger is going to be unproven.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's what the Fox Says say.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 3 (07:31):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Hey, Doug. I think what people, what listeners appreciate about
this podcast is that we have like a common sense
approach to social issues. Common sense, you know, not on
one side or the other, just common sense. I think
one assistant coach come up to you of opposing teams
and say, I like the podcast. I think they're referring
(08:06):
to the common sense approach to social issues. Yes, and
I think that you can call my opinions right leaning
and I won't have a problem with it. I do
have a problem with you calling me MAGA. I believe
in a public social safety net that runs contrary to MAGA.
(08:29):
I don't have a passion about guns. If they all
went away, I'd be fine with that. That's contrary to MAGA.
They hate that. I believe in a woman's right to
abort her child and her choice to do so. That's
that's not a MAGA thing. And the chief of MAGA,
the top top of the food chain. I have serious
(08:51):
issues he purports himself. He presents himself as a despicable
human more times than you should as president of the
United States. So let's get that settled. I'm not maga. Okay,
this next opinion might be right leaning though, So in
(09:13):
these cases you get the the parts of the left,
I guess progressive left that are just not fun that
you're like, they should never be invited to parties.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Rachel Nichols had the goal to present this question to
Shay Gildus Alexander.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
So because Asia was named Time Magazine's Athlete of the
Year and she's doing a bunch of interviews and talking
about her and Bam and their relationship. She's like, we
want to have kids together. And someone joked that Sam
Presty would be at the sonogram if they had kids together.
Is he that much of a scout?
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Sam takes his job very serious and whatever it takes
to be great, he will do.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
So that's what it takes.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's what it takes, all right.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
So van Adebayo and Asia Wilson, watch out if you
guys ever decide to have kids, Sam Presti's gonna knock
on your door.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Rachel Nichel says that somebody said that Sam Presty is
going to be there at the birth of the child
of Asia Wilson and Bam and a Bayou whatever his name,
is because Sam Presty is that far ahead on talent,
sirch as a joke. It was meant as a joke,
a very tongue in cheek. But for the no fun lefties,
(10:29):
the no fun leftist this was some kind of like
a Jimmy the Greek thing. Now Jimmy the Greek for
those that don't know this. In the early eighties, had
an unfortunate interview where he compared where he was asked
why blacks are great athletes and he talked about how
it all goes back to slaves and breeding strong slaves.
(10:52):
Very racist. He got canceled, and to get canceled in
the early eighties that says a lot. That means he
was very racist and deserved everything that he got. This
had nothing to do with that. But I went down
a rabbit hole last night and a lot of the
progressive left white women, which is one of the things
I hate about the woke agenda is that it's mainly
(11:15):
white women that are being disingenuine and being offended for
other races. When they ran this by Asia Wilson, she's like,
that's an odd question. I guess it's a slow news day.
She wasn't being Rachel. The actual black subject of Rachel
nichols question was not offended. But white leftist, woke people
(11:39):
are comparing Rachel Nichols to Jimmy the Greek. That's annoying.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
There's a lot there.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It is annoying the people that are offended if you're
not actually involved or implicated or anything. It was a
butchered line by Rachel Nichols because she's just not funny, right,
And and I know that that, uh, that line has
(12:07):
been told before, Like, that's not the first time anybody
around athletics has said I'll be at the sonogram.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's how on top of it, he is, right, but
she that's not her. She does not have comedic timing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Com what was it the famous what's his name? What's
the guy? White hair?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Shoot, George Carlin.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Not George Carlin. He was the movie Parenthood. He was
the star of Honey Eye Shrunk the Kids. He was
in Not Rick moranis the white haired guy?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
What does it called?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Steve Martin?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Steve Martin, Steve Martin in the stand up comedy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You say, comedy is all about tie tye timing, right,
And I think that's part of what made it sort
of awkward, but yeah, like if you're offended by that,
I mean, just there's so many things that you can
reasonably be offended by, but you're trying to be offended.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, just so aware.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Like I think Rachel's pretty far left, So I think
that's come out before I know what she said, what
she got caught on tape, and maybe she's done that
because she sort of got canceled for what she said
about how she was out of a gig at at ESPN,
but I don't know. Yeah, the wo Karen's are fucking
(13:29):
annoying to everybody, everybody, so thank you for pointing it out.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I'm gonna keep it white and talk about something else
that's racist. Cam Newton. He wants to be the person
that all black quarterbacks look to when they think about
their future and media.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
That's why this is important, because I'm going to work
my ass off to open up as many opportunities as
I possibly can.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
Whether why you always talking about ja you heard no man,
you hate no dog on should do it because when
they get done, they will have more opportunities because of
the things that I did and the people who came
from before me did so when they are able to
say day, what I'm gonna do after football because I
can't play this forever. I want to do that, and
(14:24):
I would want the narrative to be we need to
go get somebody like Cam Newton.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
So there's there's how many things are wrong with this
other than the fact that Cam thinks he's good at media.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
He thinks he's good and he he thinks that he
obviously thinks that that people in the media don't want
to hire a black quarterback, which is also like, what
are we doing here, Bud? Like RG three is not good,
wasn't good at the ESPN, isn't good at Fox. Now
(14:58):
we'll probably always have a job. You know why because
RG three bright enough fella Heisman Trumphy winner, happens to
be black, right like super successful. And you know, while
I think he says things that are actually inaccurate, and
I think he says things for effect instead of saying
things that have effect, RG three is employed. Like I
(15:23):
guarantee every executive at all of these networks we love
to have black quarterback on their stage. But you know,
we could kind of go through the ones who have retired,
but there wasn't a ton and the best part about
it is the part that you point out that he
(15:44):
thinks he's good, and he thinks he's like, hey, I'm
going to help these guys out. How I mean, his
level of arrogance is unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
You think Russell's the same guy, Go ahead, I'm sorry
you think Russell Wilson, the guy that you you've predicted
can do some TV, is gonna rush down game film
of Cam Newton. I said this about him recently, so
it sounded in that SoundBite like he wants people to
take him serious. Obviously, he's the trailblazer for black quarterbacks
as media members. And if you ever want to be
(16:15):
taken seriously, then you have to stop being a clown.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yes, take day of the hat.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Most of his content is clownish and and and it's
it's it's hard to watch, it's so clownish. And then
the hat. You got to lose the hat, and you
got to stop being a clown if you want to
be taken serious.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
If you want to not be a clown, you can't
wear clown shoes.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I tell people all the time, yep. At work, you
know the guy that just kind of goes around at
work and just wants to have fun and fuck around.
You could be do you want to be the class
clown because I'll just put you in the class clown compartment?
Or do you want to be taken serious as a
co worker. We're in a professional environment here, Which one
do you want? Don't go both ways. I could just
(16:56):
put you in the compartment and never take you seriously,
and I'll just do that. But when it comes to me,
you're trying to get me to take you seriously, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 7 (17:13):
There was something that happened on this podcast a week
ago that made a lot of waves on Twitter and whatnot,
and it had to do with our technical producer Iosam Sam,
and you could correct open the mic and correct me
if I'm wrong. He doesn't think that people who have
superstitions are smart, Like he doesn't believe in superstition, So
(17:38):
then he he goes the next step and judges you
if you are superstitious. In other words, I'm not religious,
I don't have a faith, but I don't go the
next step and make fun of people who do That's
that's to me, that's a bridge too far. Sam, does
that goes that extra step?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I don't.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
I don't recall making fun of anybody you call them Rubes. No,
I didn't. I don't know where you're complicated, Rubes. I
said that on a podcast. I don't remember saying that. Well,
I don't know. I don't. I don't. I feel like
that's been embellished, so I don't tell you.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Well, this might be triggering to Sam. This is Ben Johnson,
who by all accounts is held in high regard by
decision makers in the NFL. He must be exceptionally smart
because Ben Johnson is the the the big coordinator, the
highly sought after coordinator that became a head coach, and
(18:38):
now he has his team near first place. You know,
part of the opinion that I have about superstitious people
in sports is that if you came up and you
played competitive team sports, that you have so much on
the line, you put so much effort into this as
a team and a coaching staff, you've prepared yourself. Nobody
(19:01):
could speak to this more than Doug Gottlie that you
just don't want the littlest thing to fuck with it.
That's what superstition is. You don't want a change of
the vibe, a change of the air in the room.
You just want everything to be perfect going into a competition.
You don't want to have anything to blame it on.
(19:21):
So Ben Johnson talked about Caleb William's effort in on Sunday.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
He did a great job. You know, it's a hard
thing to do, is be comfortable when a pass rush
is like that. Yeah, I thought it was a good week,
form a step in the right direction. And you know
I told him this afternoon, I said, whatever you ate
for breakfast yesterday, we just need to keep doing that
on game day from here on out.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Now, why would you want to eat the same thing
for breakfast? Are you willing to call Ben Johnson a rube?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Sam?
Speaker 11 (19:51):
I think you want to eat the same thing for
breakfast because you know how it's going to treat your
body if you go and have decide to have biscuits
and gravy when you've been eating oatmeal, have the ships,
and then you don't play very well. So it might
have something to do with superstition, but I don't. I honestly,
I don't remember saying that stuff. If I said to
you that off off the air, then I think that's
(20:12):
where it should stay.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Wait so you don't want to own your comments.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Yes, so now he's say it.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
No, I don't remember saying I don't remember if he
said I don't remember. If I called anybody was.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
A technical producer of this year podcast, you could go
and very very easy.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I'm fine.
Speaker 11 (20:31):
No, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You don't care about the content of the show.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
No, I don't care about something that you're saying.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You don't care about the show.
Speaker 11 (20:38):
This is what Jason does. He'll take something I mentioned off.
You're busting my balls. Yeah, you're all busting my balls.
There's nothing left down there.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, God, here here is my point.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
If you missed last week's podcast. I am not not superstitious.
That's the way Jason. That's the way I want to
I want to be.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
How about this, Doug, how about this?
Speaker 7 (21:00):
For me?
Speaker 11 (21:00):
Personally, I can say I'm not superstitious. But in the
words of Michael Scott, I'm a little stitious. How about
that Middle Green?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I like that. I do like that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm not gonna copy Michael Scott though, the great Steve Crow.
What I am going to say is I'm not not superstitious.
I will do the same thing, Like we'll do that
with what we wear, you know, like we college coaches,
we plan out like, all right, what are we wearing?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
What? What quarters? Ziph are we wearing? What pants are
we wearing? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And you know, I'll give you an example. We first
win we've ever had in green uniforms was our last game,
and I fucking hate our green uniforms. I don't hate
the green, I don't hate the shorts, I don't necessarily
hate the time.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I just think they could be better.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And as you guys know, I think we've discussed, like
I'm actually in charge of the entire budget. So it's
like thirty five hundred bucks for a new set of uniforms,
Like I could use that elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So for our black ones, we changed the tops. They
look great.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'd like to change the bottoms too, but that's another
seventeen hundred bucks. So anyway, point is that when we
came out, I did the show on when when was
My last kid? On Thursday we came out. I was
thinking about you guys on Thursday because I walk out,
I do the radio show, I go from the studio
(22:18):
to the game. I get there, they're all doing their pregame.
're like two hours for the game or hour and
a half for the game, and they're wearing green uniforms.
And I turned to Caden, the captain, who's my director
of ops. I'm like, fuck, man, you didn't ask me
about the green uniforms because you knew what my answer
would be. He's like, what, we haven't lost in him?
I was like, we haven't had I said, we have
lost in him. It's like, well, we we've used the
(22:40):
black We just lost in the Black Ones, so I
thought i'd switched it up. It's like, you didn't think
about asking me. It's like, dude, we lose this fucking game.
We're never wearing the green uniforms again, fucking ever. Fucking
burn them. So we won, they'll live on to see
another day. My point is that I am not saying
we won because of the green uniforms. I'm not saying
that I am a little or superstitious. I'm saying I'm
(23:03):
not not superstitious. I'm not gonna attend faith. We played
Campbell on the twenty third. Do you don't couple of uniforms.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We're gonna wear.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
The green ones.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Fuck yeah, we're gonna wear the green ones them. We
just wanted them. And again, I don't think that it matters.
I don't. I really don't think it matters. I don't
think it matters.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But I'm not gonna do if it does matter, I'm
not gonna be the guy that goes it matters.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
And I didn't care to be honest, it's the power
of faith. These things that you can't prove or see
is faith. So if you think it helps, and your
players think it helps, you know what. The largest selling
non fiction book of all time outside of the Bible
is The Power of Positive Thinking. It was in like
the sixties. I forget who what the old name is?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Hold On? Is it really again?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You just threw out a fact which I don't know
of it's actual effect.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Oh, I have no idea, but I once read that
that that was the largest.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Hold On.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
You sold the ship out of that one, right, because
I was like, that's fucking good.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I need to read that book anyway, Go ahead, Power Positive.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Thinking, and that entire book is about these unprovable things.
If you go into a situation with positive thinking, positive
results will happen. It's just it's a mindset more than
it is like a I can't see it, so I'm
not going to believe in it type of thing. So
the So to wrap up this conversation, Doug, I think
(24:28):
you've said you're superstitious, but you're not superstitious whatever. But
the question is, are you going to judge people who
are because you see it all the time?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Do you judge people are religious?
Speaker 7 (24:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Really really religious?
Speaker 10 (24:43):
No.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
I think that having a faith is actually, in a
lot of ways admirable. If you can if you can
put your if you can put your your head on
the pillow every night, believing that there is a higher power,
or believing that this this life on earth is simply
a pregame for a massive party. After that's an amazing belief,
(25:04):
Like you're you are going to be a happier person.
So I, as a cynical negative person, I actually admire
people with faith.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I admire people who live by what they believe. I
don't know if I don't know if I admire I
do feel like there it's a little bit it can
it can feel a little culty when you're like go
along with everything that is said to you in church,
(25:35):
and that's exactly what you do in exactly what you
think when there's.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
A robotic nature to it. Does that make.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Sense again, I'm just being honest with my I'm a
I'm not a judgmental person, but it is something that
I do judge people about. When everything is about Jesus,
everything is about the religion.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It can be Jesus, can be Muhammed, it can be whatever.
I think.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
There's a level of fanaticism towards anything. Same thing with atheists,
like I don't care if you're atheist, that's fine. Like
if you are and there ends up being a heaven, like, yeah,
you kind of fuck that one up. It's the it's
the proclamation of your religion or lack thereof, and the
(26:19):
I I am sure that I am right and everything
else is wrong, and I will go one by somebody
else's determination of what I should do. That I'm like,
But I generally believe that people like that that irritate
me are the ones that I feel it's phony. They
(26:40):
don't live it, they just say it. We go yeah,
So anything else annoying.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
You, No, that's it. You have Sam's judgment of Ben Johnson,
Cam Newton's take on being a Trailblazer quarterback and the
reaction to Rachel Nichols as Jimmy the Greek.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I'm gonna do Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's just the like Cam Newton just started doing television.
And let me make sure I say this, ninety five
percent of people who just start doing TV.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Are bad at are bad at it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He is really not good at it because he has
no he is yet to get to the point where
he accepts any of the flaws of his career, has
any sort of, you know, reasonable take. He's still in
this super defensive Everything has comes down to race thing,
(27:40):
and there is the clownishness, which I don't watch first Take,
so I don't know if it exists, but I do know,
and I actually have a I feel I understand this part.
One of the things that's bad about first take and
why all those people are bad in other television settings
is because there's no I'm limit on how long they talk.
(28:01):
They just fucking talk, which I know I have in radio,
and I can tell you that some of it's real
and some of it is perception that when you're a
radio guy, when you're a person that talks in seven
minute can talk for seven minutes straight.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
In a monologue.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Anytime you go long on television, you're judged as well.
He's a radio guy. He doesn't know when to shut
the fuck up. He has no idea how to be
concise with what he says. He doesn't truly have a
grasp of who he was as a player, or how
he's perceived or anything. I mean, just again, the idea
(28:40):
at this point in his life, the idea that when
Philip Rivers came back, he'd want to know he thought
he wasn't getting a call because of the circus it
would create, not even talking about like I had a
shoulder injury and I couldn't throw a football. And when
I say can't throw football, it's not that you can't
throw it. You don't throw it like an NFL player, quarterback,
(29:01):
the best of the best of the best. But he's
so obnoxious and annoying. It's easy, Cam Newton, you're annoying.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
This SoundBite reminds me of one of my favorite scenes
in UH. There's something about Mary, very politically incorrect. I
don't even think you could put this in a movie. Nowadays.
But when Matt Dillon is talking about Cameron Diaz's special
needs brother, and he's talking about how he used to
(29:40):
work with those people and how they used to let
him out of their cage, and she's like, you put
him in a cage, and he's I'm not going to
tell anybody to run my life anyways. This is Jaylen
Brown talking about Scottie Barnes and he got in a
little trouble for it. So this is Jleen Brown streaming
something because he's injured. He's just playing video games and
(30:01):
he talks about Scotty Barnes.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
Scottie Barnes is strong as shit. This motherfucker guy like that,
you know. I like that he got that extra chromosome
strength like he had just like just some type of
Ninja turtle or something that mom that boy's strong as hell.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I like the Ninja Turtle one. That's fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I was, you know, it's I didn't watch the Ninja
I don't know anything about Ninja Turtles other than I
liked the movie, the first movie.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I didn't see the second movie. But that's a funny bite.
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