THE BEST OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

On a special edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug wraps up his time at FOX Sports Radio by taking you through a journey of his radio life. Doug welcomes on his former co-host Chuck Wilson, his long-time friend Brandon Krisztal, and former producer Ryan Musick on to reminisce about their time together in the business. Doug welcomes former co-worker Louise Cornetta, former tech producer John Ramos, and former radio producer Adam Klug on to reminisce about the good time. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:49):
So we had a lot to talk about, and I
am going to do something for the next two hours
which violates what I I have done for the last
twenty three years, really eighteen years as an afternoon drive
host here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, which is I'm

(01:11):
going to talk about what I want to talk about,
not necessarily what you want to talk about the rule
in sports radio, especially national sports radio, is check your ego,
which doesn't really happen with most of us as hosts.
Check your but check your ego in terms of topic selection.
My topic selection, Guys that talk about what they want

(01:33):
to talk about fall by the wayside. Guys that talk
about what the most people want to talk about. Like
we make fun of talking about the Cowboys at all times,
but when you talk about the Cowboys, more people have
an opinion or seem to want to listen. So I'm
going to violate that because of announcement that I made
after our show two days ago. And we'll get into

(01:53):
that in a second. First thing is congratulations to Dan
Byer's Seattle Seahawks. What a game, what a win, What
a way to announce your presence nukle Lustyle with authority
in the NFL on Thursday night football.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That was a wild one last night. Sees never a
dull moment. You already said it with Pete Carroll and
Russell Wilson. Every Seahawks game came down to the final
second or the last play of the game last night.
So the Sam Donald Mike McDonald era no different.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And I love my favorite thing about social media is
freezing cold takes is pretty good, but when people keep
re seats and if you would have looked at halftime
or early in the third quarter on Sam Donald. Sam
Donald was what was the quarterback Nathan He was basically
Nathan Peterman, right, Nathan Peter Like, same old Sam Donald.

(02:46):
Sam Donald sucks. I can't believe Seattle did this. This
is the real Sam Donald. You had all the memes
and then pulling off the mask, you know, all those things,
and then Sam Donald the competitor wakes up and ends
up winning the a wild one, and I apologize. We're
not really gonna get into that. We're not gonna get
into the Puka nakua. I just think he's too dumb.

(03:08):
He doesn't know I'm Jewish. Again, There's there's plenty of
anti anti Semitism up there. I didn't view that as
anti Semitism. I view that as somebody doing something which
people want. People are looking for the gotcha moment. He's
it's not worth it. It's not worth it. So there

(03:33):
are other things to get to. Tonight. You have a
football game in Norman, Oklahoma, which I am fascinated by
and I love again. I would love. Matter of fact,
I'm gonna do it in my final radio show here
on Fox Sports Trade. I'm gonna tell you listen to
Steven A. Smith talk about the outcome of this football
game and saying that, you know, if Alabama doesn't win,

(03:56):
they should get rid of their coach and he should
go to Michigan. When you don't know anything about college
football is the worst part of this business. Yesterday, I
had the day off because I traveled from Green Bay
to Las Vegas to recruit in a junior college event,
the Tarcanian Classic, which is at the Orleans Arena, and
so I had about three hours to myself and I

(04:20):
sat down at a at a bar, and I was
watching first take and get up and watching first take
and then talk about college football. I wanted to stab
my eyes out. That's what I wanted to do, stab
my eyes out. And so it's part of those emotions
that leaving this show behind because I don't think I

(04:43):
know this is the best show on sports radio because one,
our personalities all work together too, we all actually kind
of like each other. And three we actually like and
care on different levels about sports, which is not how
it works otherwise. And we're not hot takers. We don't
say things that we don't believe and that we haven't
throw thought out and have reason behind it. And you're like, wait, wait,

(05:03):
this is your last show if you haven't found out
Wednesday after the game and we had, I'm gonna just
say that's our best win since I've been at Green Bay,
and it's our best win, not because I mean, winning
on the road is more difficult. Winning at the US
Virgin in the US Virgin Islands against really talented teams

(05:24):
like UMass and Iona was an incredible weightlifted office and
we played really, really well. We've done some other impressive things,
but Santa Barbara is outstanding. They're really good. Being at
home is important because those are the people that fund
your program. Those are the people that want to see
growth and success, and so beating a top one hundred

(05:47):
and fifty and really when healthy, they're a top one
hundred team like Santa Barbara was gigantic. Afterwards, I announced
that this would be my last year, or this would
be my last show with live radio. Okay, so just
to clarify, I'm still gonna do a podcast. I'm still
gonna do my podcast, you know, the Doug Gottlieb Show podcast.

(06:10):
We will use the All Ball platform and iHeart has
been great and we're gonna work together on it and
there are no negatives there. But some of it is perception,
and not that I care what people think, but the
people that matter, I want them to know green Bay

(06:31):
Basketball is incredibly important to me. And you can't say
something's your dream job and then not be willing to
literally and figuratively give you all four it. The reality
to it is green Bay Basketball hasn't suffered the last
year and a half because I haven't worked hard enough
at it. I would say there are times in which
you guys have picked me up, which has been great,

(06:51):
and it's been all the other things in my life
which which suffer. It's just hard when you're trying to
be a show which is knowledgeable and not say things
that you don't know to be true. It's one of
the things that Jason and I get into all the time.
Jason's like, well, you never go like all in on
some things you're kind of wish about, and I'm not.
I'm The reality is the world is gray more than

(07:14):
black and white. Even though sports TV, sports radio, political
TV once you think it's black and white. It's left
and right and it's not. So we'll talk about it
some more. But I was thinking about this. Sports radio
has been the theme music to my life. Theme music

(07:38):
to my life. I was born in Milwaukee, lived there
till U six, moved to southern California, and every summer
we would return to New York City. My dad was
in New Yorker, grew up in the Bronx, moved out
to the island when he was fourteen years old, and
he would rent a car and he was like the
only human being that would like to drive in New
York because he was in New Yorker. And he would

(08:00):
turn on wfa N, which had Imus in the morning
and it had Mike and the Dog in the afternoon,
and he loved it. I would listen to Angels Talk
after Angels games and call in when I was in
high school. When I was in high school, I started

(08:22):
listening to XTRA in San Diego AM six ninety and
in the afternoon they had Lee Hacksaw Hamilton. For the
next couple of hours, I want to talk sports with
you from Poway to Escondido, all the way up to Temechilla,
Valley for the next couple of hours. This is your
home for sports, right that is Lee Hacksaw Hamilton. And

(08:46):
at night. At night there was a show called The
Jim Rome Show and they was wild and they would
do drug tests Tokanukua for his hosts continue a posts
would have gotten a drug test which had a ping
and a cup sound in the background, and you know,

(09:10):
raiders sucked. Chargers rule good night Now was part of
the vernacular to anyone who watched that show. I remember
when Jim Rome got picked up nationally and I think
Denver was his first affiliate. Like this is how I
grew up. And so when I was in high school,
my dad was my AU coach and he would pick
me up from school and we'd have to go pick

(09:32):
up players for practice because their parents couldn't do it,
and we had to find guys where no one else
found them because we just didn't have enough players living
in Orange County to compete on a national basis in
AU basketball. And I would have my homework and he
would be listening to either Sports Radio XTRA or he
would listen to old cassette tapes of old time radio,

(09:55):
The Jack Benny Show, Burns and Allen, you name it.
So when I got to Oklahoma State my first year there,
we were thirteen and zero, we were getting ready to
play in Nebraska with Tyron lu and Nebraska was a

(10:16):
pathetic road team, and they asked me. Will Hancock, our
late sid, came in and asked me during shoot around, Hey,
everybody wants to talk to you. What radio show do
you want to do? Jay Stu, do you know what
radio show I want to do?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (10:31):
The Jim romeshow.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Correct because the year before, when I was sitting out
at Golden West College, Toby Bailey, who I had grown
up playing against, was his college basketball insider, and I said,
tell Jim, I want to be his college basketball insider,
and we lost to Nebraska. Coach was so pissed. I
didn't get to do any of the interview until the

(10:54):
NCAA tournament, and then I told Jim I wanted to
be his college basketball insider. I was the next year.
I was the next year. And then Eric Chenowith, who
I'd grown up with also in Orange County Villa Park
High School, who also grew up listened to the Jim
Rome Show he wanted to be on and we would
go back and forth in different spots while on Jim

(11:16):
Rum Show. I've been doing this for a long time
and this will be an emotional two hours for me.
I hope a good listen for you. I'm gonna tell
you how I've made it in this business. And there
really is only two things you truly truly need, and

(11:41):
then one other thing that I don't think most of
you will be able to get. And I'm sorry for that,
but I'm not sorry because I worked really hard for it.
But for the next two hours, we're gonna do. This
is my radio life. And it started in Orange County
and it started listening next Tora and started to listening
to Hacksaw and Rome and the other way it part

(12:04):
it started was in nineteen ninety six through ninety seven.
I sat out at Golden West College and my high
school coach my first year was Tom McCluskey. He took
the Golden West job and so I went there and
I red shirt essentially practiced with the team, and on weekends,

(12:24):
my old high school girlfriend lived up at Santa Barbara
and my brother was in San Luis Obispo at cal
Poly's first job, and so I would go up and
stop in on the way to San Luis Obispo and
see his games, usually on a Saturday night and on
Sunday night, I would drive home and the first show

(12:45):
at ESPN Radio was a night Sunday night show. It
was called Game Night. It was called Game Night, and
I think our show is the best now. The best
show at that time that I remember was Game Night
Tony Bruno and Chuck Wilson. Tony Bruno and Chuck Wilson,

(13:09):
and I would drive home on the one oh one
on a Sunday night and listen to these guys from Bristol, Connecticut,
and I thought to myself, Man, I'd really like to
do that. Fast forward to two thousand and three and
I got an opportunity to work at ESPN ESPN Radio.
My first show for the first three years I was

(13:29):
there was Game Night. My co host was the most
prepared man I've ever worked with, ever seen, ever happened
upon in the history of the medium. His name is
Chuck Wilson. He joins us now here on the Doug
Outlet Show on Fox Sports Radio, Jasmo. How you doing.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
Doing well, Doug.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
I'm plad to be able.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
To join you today.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Game night way back when. What was it like, not
with me, with Bruno and those guys, what were those
shows like?

Speaker 6 (13:59):
It was amazing. I mean, you're talking about a seven
hour talk show and we do it Saturdays and Sundays, right,
seven hours.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Here's the kicker. We didn't take.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Phone calls, so you're talking for seven hours. They'd be
three in the booth and be Tony and me, and
then we had kind of a rotating Peter ben Brown
was there for a period of time. They rotated in
TV people. Keith Oberman and Mike Jerico were Saturday and
Sunday when we first started out, but we rotated people

(14:32):
for a long period of time. I ended up working
with over I think over two hundred co host at
one time or another. But yeah, I mean, the cool
thing about it was we had access to all of
the ESPN talent, and the name, the good.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Name of ESPN got us a lot of interviews.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
On the very first weekend we broke the story of
Danny Tartible to the Yankees through Keith Overman, Who've got
a tip on it, and so here it is this
fledgling you know, weekend network goes on the air and
immediately breaks uh, you know what was a very national
story that night. So that was pretty cool stuff. But yeah,

(15:19):
it was good. But I got a couple of stories
that i'd like to tell about you that are off
the air actually, and when we talk about being on
the air, because I really enjoyed working with you, as
you know, and I'll just say to folks, you know,
when you're working with somebody and they know what they're doing,

(15:40):
and especially obviously in hoops and in college football NFL,
you know.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Doug Reley knew his stuff.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
And what I enjoyed was watching somebody who only had
surface knowledge make the mist of challenging Doug. Okay, now
here's the thing. Doug loves to debate stuff and he's
very good at it, right, so you'd better bring your

(16:12):
a game, especially if it's in a subject that he
really knows.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
Okay, I mean he really knows.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
But it would be fun because people just you know,
he'd knock him down the side. I mean, you saw it.
But I just want to go to two thousand and
four because we had Doug over the house, all right,
and we had, first of all, we had expanded our driveway,
put in a half court. We have a three point
line of had all the lines on and so forth,

(16:41):
the line based line and so forth. Right, And we've
got three boys, and our middle son is Matt. So
first of all, I'll tell you Matt's fourteen years old, okay,
and he and Doug are playing Madden, right, and my
son is just beating up done. Just my son is
up thirty points in the fourth quarter. But my son's

(17:05):
also fourteen years old, and he's a huge Michael Vick fan.
Now you would think, as he jokes about it today,
you would think that, you know, you might want to
run the ball. You know, you got Michael Vick. You
just no, Matt is going to pass. And Matt was
stubborn Michael Vick. Well, Doug got maybe the fourth quarter,

(17:27):
came back from thirty points at the bet, which was
pretty funny at the time.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
The other story that's in this, though.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Is that I think everybody knows what an outstanding player
Doug was.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
In high school.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Okay, he shared most outstanding Player award in high school
for the state of California.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
It was one Paul Pierce.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Okay, sometime's really good.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
So when he went to Oklahoma State, and I'll never.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
Understand why coaches tell kids telling people don't shoot them.
You know, we don't want we want you to distribute,
We don't want you to shooting the ball. Well, Doug
went from you know, being somebody who had the confidence
to score and really could shoot too. Frankly, I think
you'd agreed, Doug. I mean, got to the point where

(18:17):
even free throws were a challenge. All right, yes, But
I want you to tell you that in two thousand
and four, Doug came to our house play a little basketball.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Out there.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
They're shooting threes, right, And I swear to you that
because I confirmed this with Matt today, you know what
was the exact number? Doug Gottlieb made twenty seven straight
threes on an outdoor court.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
That that sounds like a windy I'll tell you mine
real quick, Chuck, before we go, I got two things
for you. One, you want to talk about a twenty
six year old you made it moment. It was the
twentieth Anniverse, twenty fifth anniversary of ESPN, and we did
a show from the ESPN Zone of New York City,
and it was me and Chuck Wilson and we started

(19:05):
the show. To my left was Ozzie Smith, to his
right was Richard Petty, the Wizard and the King. And
I'm sitting there going what am I doing here? Right?
What am what? Am Wait? So it was and you
had been doing it forever. Knew everything about everybody. But

(19:25):
I need I need a thirty second dissertation. Pete Rose
passed away, right, not so tragically. Not a good person. Sorry,
that's just the reality to it. Okay, For people who
believe that Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame,
the officient out of The only person you need to
listen to is Chuck Wilson. He's the only person I

(19:47):
know that can quote chapter and verse the Dowd Report
knows all the truth about what has been investigative Pete Rose.
So I'm gonna ask you, Chuck right now. Should Pete
Rose be in the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well as as a player? He should not.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
But it will happen because people have, you know, short.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Memories, and.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
You know some of the vices that have been poppened
up over time and so on. Here's the thing that
really bothered me about Pete Rose. You know, Pete never
really came clean. Peter Rose had a photographic memory. Okay,
he I mean, he could quote from you know, at
bats and games and exact situations.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
All right.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
When he writes in his book that he really can't
remember the first time he plays the bet professional, I
can tell you why he can't remember, because he was
a player manager and he never wanted to admit that
he bet on baseball as a player manager. As a manager.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, he came clean on that.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
I am convinced that he didn't want to say that
he bet as a player manager because he thought it
would hurt his chances to get into the Hall. And
had an interesting sideline to this Doug. About two months ago,
I met John Dowd for the first time. He lives
out in the Cape Cape Con, Massachusetts. And it's a long,

(21:12):
kind of a long story, but I went to a
fundraiser for the Rotary Club and there was a guy
that he actually lives next door to John Dowd. I
went out and I met John Dowd. John Dowd really
did a very honest report on Pete Rose and for
Pete to have ridiculed the individuals, you know, the commissioner

(21:34):
and John Dowd and the whole three stooges thing and
lied and lied and lied for years. Was really really unfortunate.
I was always cast as the bad guy that you know,
I'd always have to be the foil and say that
I didn't believe petecause.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Of course I didn't.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
All the evidence is just clear that he had bet.
But you know, and that really bothered me because I
was Pete Rose growing up. I was I love the
hustle stuff, right, and so effort attitude are really big
to me, and so it was a big disappointment. But
that's the backstory if you want to put him into
the hall because you don't think gamblings, you know, I mean,

(22:13):
everything's you know, we're putting gambling in different category today. Okay,
but just remember this guy bet on baseball. He did
it as a player manager and you know people said, well,
you didn't bet against his own team. Well, every time
you didn't bet on your team or you did that,
maybe as a player, you're maybe you're putting your closer

(22:34):
out there for three straight days and you really.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Shouldn't have type things.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
So no, I would not, But you know that's my feeling.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
He'll he'll you know, that's he'll get in.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Because of time changes things.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
But I don't believe you should Jack.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
You taught me so much, and you were always so
graceful with how you taught me, And when when you
didn't come back, you never took it out on me
or on our friendship. And I just honored to share
a studio and learn so much from you. I appreciate you.
I appreciate you and and and I never got to

(23:11):
the level of preparation that I didn't have the chuck
wagon ever you set you set up, You set a
bar for everybody to get to that that none of
us could really climb.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Well, that's nice you to say that.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
Let me just say this that, uh, you just.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
You wanted to keep improving. Uh and you did uh
an engaging conversation and doing solo shows something I.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Can't do very well, and there aren't.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
That many that do it well, and you've done it
really well for quite a while. I thoroughly enjoyed playing
with playing in the.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Year with you, going back and forth.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Sometimes the third person in could be a.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Little difficult, as we both know, but uh no it was.
It's a real joy.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
And uh, I just wish you the best going forward here.
I'm glad that you're doing this show today this way
because You know, people should understand how many of us
really enjoyed working with you and how much you brought
to the table, because man, knowledge is a cool thing.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I call it informed opinion. You know, everybody's got.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Opinions, but you gave us informed opinions and get better
at the sports you weren't as familiar with, but on
the stuff that was in your wheelhouse. There are few
people better in terms.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Of knowledge and good stuff.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
So be well.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
My friend Mary Chriss Chack, thanks so much for doing this.

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Because this is going to be my last live sports

(25:01):
radio show for the time being, I'm gonna focus my
daytime attention on on the Green Bay Phoenix. On the
Green Bay Phoenix, my next guest is I tell people
all the time that you know, a real friend is

(25:22):
somebody who thinks of you one in times of need,
but two will always be your kind of biggest champion.
And I've taken one quasi journalism class in my lifetime, Damnpyre,
and that one was at Golden West College, Golden West College.

(25:42):
But I wrote for the school newspaper at Golden West College.
Guess what I wrote about.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
The school newspaper at Golden West College, which I've done?
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Heind the beach Hullington.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I don't know the the baseball team.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
One would think, Okay, I grew up playing sports. I
love sports. I want to talk about sports. You would
think I would cover sports, right I was. I did
food critique. I did food critique. Take a guess why.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Nobody else would do it?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I don't help and why free food?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Free food? Oh, free food makes sense?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Free food because I am low budget. I'd ask anybody
who knows me, like man, open up that wallet. Now
I'm better now, obviously we're gonna this was just gonna
take a little hit with this one here. But the
point is I'm a free food. The fact that you
ordered pizza today is great. I did. I went to
the wallet but it was that it was the look

(26:45):
you not really going to the wallet thing, but thank
you for the pizza.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
In advance Doug's third review of In and Out this
Week on the school newspaper.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
But I made a friend in that class. He was
a football player, and then he didn't play football. He
went to Kansas so remarkably he goes to our rival school.
And while at Oklahoma State, my college roommate's girlfriend was
at KU, so we would go up and back there
sometimes and he would come down for a lot of

(27:18):
the big games. Fast forward to two thousand and two
and I had just gotten home from playing in Israel,
and I was filling in at WWLS, the Sports Animal
in Oklahoma City, and I want to fill in because
Jim Travor, the afternoon host, was the color voice for

(27:39):
the Diamondbacks and they were good then, and so he
was off there lots of times in the summer and
I would fill in. And I got a call from
Brandon after doing a show and he's like, hey, Dan
Steer from ESPN's trying to get a hold of you.
And I didn't have a cell phone at the time.
I didn't have an email address outside like mail and

(28:01):
I didn't have an extension at the studio because I
wasn't full time. Brandon was the guy responsible for me
getting an interview to do college basketball at ESPN, and
Brandon was my first producer when I got my first
show two thousand and two till two thousand and three
at wwwis's Sports Animal. He joins US now from Denver,

(28:22):
where he covers the Broncos. He also has his own
podcast network BK. What did you write about for the
school newspaper.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
I didn't write for the school newspaper. I was in
the football offseason program, so I was just in that
class with you. I think I might have written one
article as like part of an assignment, but I didn't
get published in the school newspaper. And I'd been writing
in Dallas as a kid and was published in the
Dallas Morning News, where I would write articles about wrestling
tournaments that I was in, so I wouldn't quote myself,
but I would quote my teammates and my coach, and

(28:53):
would write features about some of my friends who played
football and went on to play college football. But yeah,
I didn't write at Golden West. I did know, though
that I met you, that you know one day. You
would work at every single major sports radio network, and
you know, beyond March Madness coverage with Charles Barkley and
Kenny Smith and Ernie Johnson and Greg Gumbele. So I

(29:14):
got that sense when you know when we were fresh
I guess I was a freshman, you were sophomore. But
I was eighteen nineteen, you were nineteen twenty. I was like, oh,
this guy's going to be something.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
My strongest memory of our show at night because I
did the middle of the day's show with Mark Rogers
right the mod squad, and then we had the nightly.
We did a basketball show at night. Remember guys, we
did a basketball show in Oklahoma City at night in
two thousand and two. Now, right now, a basketball show
at night in Oklahoma City is great. Back then, there

(29:46):
were only three sports covered in Oklahoma City radio, football,
spring football, and recruiting, and really was Ou football, Spring
football and recruiting.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
Can I can I guess? Can I guess your strongest
memory because it Lamorrow is the scent of marijuana from
Lamarrow to we.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
We had he somehow Brandon has the unique ability to
know everybody and to get into any room. There's never
been an event that I've gone to that he wasn't
able to get into, usually before I could, and I
was invited and had a ticket, and oftentimes he did not,
so he had I don't even how did you. I
don't even know how you knew lamar Odom. But lamar

(30:21):
Odom was early on in the NBA. He was, he
was on my radio show, and he could not have
possibly been more high, otherwise he would have been in
a coma. That's my shortest wimbor.

Speaker 8 (30:32):
What weird is, if I were to guess how I
knew lamar Odom, it'd be through a friend who I
met after working at the Sports Animal, which why it
makes why why it makes less sense. So it had
to be through a third party, somebody that knew him
along the way, because my friend Jonathan Grunfast, I worked
with the Serious when you went on to ESPN full time.

(30:53):
I took a job at Serious Report Serious XM as
it was getting off the ground, and my buddy Jonathan,
who worked there in a WFN was was the manager
at Rhode Island and lamar had to set out that
first year. So you driving back to Queens But so
I don't know how we got Lamar lm On. That's
one that I could rack my brain for hours. And
I'm not really sure, but it's certainly the most memorable
that And I remember playing a lot of pickup basketball

(31:14):
and this guy tried to tell us he played at
Portland or Portland State, and of course we did the research.
He didn't, and he kept calling you a radio DJ.
And then you hit us three to win the game.
And you had just gotten back from playing in Europe
and you said, and he's like, okay, come on, mister DJ.
And you hit the shot. I sound like Chuck Wilson
now telling these glory day stories. But you hit the
shot to keep winning or maybe end the day. And

(31:36):
and you go and professional basketball player mf for check
the resume. And I was like, that's a good line.
Check or he said, check the resume mf For. I
was like, that's a good line.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Most times now I just do. Hey, hey, Bud, this
is the lowest point of my basketball career. Of the
high point, of course, let's let's just let's just let's
just get this thing over with. Was that at the temple.
We played a lot of pick up basketball at the
Temple in Okla.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Might have been at the church.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
We played with Kelly greg the longtime nose tackle for
the Sure for the Ravens with his brother, So I
think that was at the church. We had about three runs.
We had want up a temple where that was not
much fun for you except for cardio, and then we
had a couple of church runs Mark Rogers Addison one
and yeah, it was no. That was definitely at the church.
That was not at the temple.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
The church run was where I met my first bookie.
And I actually asked, you, why are they giving that
guy money. They're like, he's a bookie. I was like,
they exist in real life. He's like, yeah, there's a
bookie everywhere I had. I had no idea. I had
no idea.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
Well, then then you moved to the East Coast and
they really existed everywhere, and now they're just on your phone.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Correct, listen, we got we got to run. I wanted
to have you on and tell you I appreciate you.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
Well, I appreciate I appreciate you because you did help
me get my first radio job. And then when you
went to CBS and I went up there to interview
at CBS Sports Radio, you told me not to take
the job, and to say in Denver, I took it anyway.
But the second day I was there, I called the trendy,
get my job back, moved back eleven weeks later and
the rest is history. You know, was with my girlfriend wife.
We've got three kids, So thank you for that, and

(33:02):
thanks for as being a good friend. And you also
have the biggest Green Bay Phoenix fan in the state
of Colorado in my seven year old Leo, who went
to Allen Field House a lifelong Jayhawks fan because of
his dad, because it's my alma mater, and left a
fan of the opposition, which almost never happens. I have
to think when a kid goes to a school or
goes to Lawrence to watch a game at allen Field House,

(33:24):
so he's always asking how you're doing it, and he's
very excited that you are six dash seven right now.
So I said, there's gonna be a lot more wins
than that, though.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
In the last one, that's funny. When I walked out
allen Field House, I put on a Kansa sweathirt. I
was a much bigger fan of them. B K I
love you, say hi do you lovely bride and your
kids and tell Leo we need his cheering. We take
on Campbell on Tuesday. Thanks thanks for joining me.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
Absolutely happy honkah happy. Howadays to you?

Speaker 4 (33:51):
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Speaker 1 (33:59):
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work at you gotta be willing to work when other
people are not. That's that's that's really it. I was

(34:21):
very fortunate to not have to grind the way that
Dan Beyer did early on coming up because being a
former college basketball player and a fairly notable one, I
got a really good shot in Oklahoma City, making way
more money than you normally do in your first radio show,
and then I was on like a rocket rocket ship
to go to ESPN a year later. But I do

(34:44):
think that it's when you do a radio show, a
TV show, when you do anything. Now, coaching a college
buss team, staff is everything surrounding yourself with really good people.
I came here eight years ago. Ryan Music was my producer.
I didn't know Ryan from Adam. What do you remember
Ryan about when we first started linking up and working.

Speaker 9 (35:06):
I will tell you, Doug, it was a great pleasure
to get to work with you and launch the show.
And one of my favorite things about you was, after
being your producer and only knowing you for about three months,
you traveled to Israel to coach the Jewish national team
and you asked if I could drop you off at
the airport. I said, no problem, that's not an issue.

(35:27):
And then as we arrived at the Burbank airport, you said,
all right, here's my Tesla and have fun for the
next three months. And I was like, okay, I guess
I have myself a brand new Tesla for the next
month or so.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
While you were in Israel.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, when I got Greg, you said you said it
shakes it one twenty I was like, dude, easy, now
you're like, yeah, it shakes it one twenty on what's
going on there?

Speaker 8 (35:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Oh me either.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
I thought Elon had this whole thing figured out with
aerodynamics and rocket ships, but hey, no, listen, tug it
was nothing but a pleasure, and obviously the great people
of Green Bay have a good one and know that
you'll only do great things as you lean into this
book and purduce the building.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
A great program.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Here's the big question we want to ask, Hey, you're
now Collins producer. Do you take his picks as we
do and bet the opposite? Do you fade all of
his picks in his blazing five? If so, you would
be a multi millionaire right now for this year.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
Well, Doug, the fact that I am still Collins producer
if that map checks out, probably not actually the case.
It's kind of like if you'd won the power Ball,
you'd probably never seen me again.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
So well, listen, from humble beginnings, you've become a star
from ce Sun as a volleyball player to my producer
now living in Chicago, living the high life, doing volume
stuff and calling stuff. Congratulate said everything, and thanks for
joining me, and thanks for all your hard work.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
Thank you, Doug.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
That's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio coming
up next. There's one individual human being that's changed the
trajectory of my life in sports more than anyone else,
anyone else. I'm gonna say thank you, Yeah, thank you,
and we'll go down memory lane of how I got

(37:11):
started in this racket. That's up coming next to the
Doug Gottlieb Show. It's final show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
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Speaker 1 (37:26):
Hey, what up with you? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Hope you're having a great day. What comes you live?

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Well?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Last time from you, Los Angeles, California. Have you heard
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live sports radio show for the time being, and take

(37:55):
a little break from this, and I'll still do a
pod podcast, just do it, you know, off business hours,
do it from my house. And that's been really successful,
really well received, and I love the long form aspect
of it, and I'll get into that probably sometime here
this hour. So we got one hour left, and Jason

(38:16):
Stewart's like, dude, dude, this is your radio life. So
I am kind of going out of chronological order a
little bit, and I'll I do want to explain why
sports radio means so much to me. I think I'll
do it now. My dad died eleven years ago, and

(38:40):
you know, I mean, like anyone's dad, I would think again,
how I know is mine? He's complicated. There is things
that were great, there were things that weren't. But we
shared a love of sports, obviously basketball specifically, but my dad,
we love sports. We'd get up every morning and we

(39:02):
had the Orange County Register, the LA Times, Orange County.
He had the New York Post delivered to our house
even though it was three days late, and USA Today,
and then for that short period of time, wonderful time,
the National Sports Daily. Do you guys remember that? And
we'd have the newspapers out and we'd pass them around

(39:24):
and I would we'd look at box scores and talk sports.
That's what we did for breakfast and when we were
in the car, and then it became sports radio, and
uh to be on ESPN Radio and to hear the

(39:46):
pride in your father's voice is something that I can't
quite describe, but I think you all can hopefully understand, right,
hopefully understand. And it was it always amazing me because
my dad, he's that classic like Jewish parent where it
was like, well, maybe one day you'll have his show

(40:06):
as big as Collins, Like I have my own show on.
He has to me right like I'm doing okay, you know,
it was never quite enough, so there was always a hey,
that's great, but there's still more out there for you.
When I was at CBS Sports Radio, I took the

(40:27):
job two reasons. One I wanted to do the Final
Four and I wanted to move back to California. My
dad had had about with cancer, with skin cancer, and
I just I also thought I wanted to have a
life and I'll never forget. ESPN had offered me a

(40:48):
five year guaranteed contract worth way more like. It was
really interesting how they do business. They tell you six
in the months in advance they want to reup you,
like three months in advance, they lowball you, and then
it comes down the last wire and finally they get
to the number that they should have got to originally.
So they got to the right number. There was just
some things missing in it that I didn't like, and

(41:11):
then I would have had to I was at Foxwoods Casino.
I just a couple big casinos in Connecticut. Foxwoods is
the lesser known of the two, and husbands and wives,
and we all went out. The women were going to
a Sarah MacLachlan concert. The guys were just going to
go and throw the dice, have a good time. And

(41:32):
I'm walking around the casino with one of my buddies
and he was like, Man, coach your girls in soccer,
first time ever. That was awesome. You should do it
next year. And I was thinking to myself that I
was doing four to seven radio and for five months
out of the year, I'd turn off the radio and
I'd walk down the hallway, I'd put on makeup and
a tie, and then I'd do TV until one in
the morning. It was great money, but my kids were

(41:56):
going to school age and I would literally never see
them for five months, and I would never see there.
I wouldn't be there in the afternoon for you know,
eleven months, twelve months of the year. So when I
took the CBS deal, the idea was it was twelve
to three radio in California. I would do a nighttime
TV show at night to night, I'd have every afternoon

(42:16):
of my kids. Didn't work out as great as I
thought it would work out, and two years in they
moved me back to New York, where I did my show.
It was simulcast CBS Sports Network and CBS Radio, but
my dad was only live for those last I think
four months, and I was furious that they made me move.

(42:41):
I had the conversation with my boss, which I will
never forgive him for, was, Hey, could I just get
six more months out here? It's not great. It spread
to his brain and my boss said, you're Our business
with you is in New York. We're giving you more
money to move to New York. But it ended up
being a blessed because my dad saw me every day

(43:04):
for those four months when I was on TV, and
then we talk on the way home every night except
for the ninety past, and him seeing me reinstilled something
which I know to be true. Radio. Real talk radio
is a relationship. The people that are really good at it.

(43:27):
You know about their wives, their kids, their lives, what
they do, what they do on the weekend, not just
sports stuff. And many of you have been with me
for this ride the whole time, and I appreciate you
and we are friends. We just have never met in person.
Like there's a kid from with state of Wisconsin who

(43:48):
I wanted really, really bad. He went to a powerful school,
powerful school, and I'm friends with the dad, but the
dad doesn't do We didn't know each other, but we
knew each other because he'd listen to me on there
for years. We're still friends now. He turned us down,
went to a bigger school. It's all good, but it's
because radio is a relationship, and relationships are what business

(44:11):
is about. You're never going to get in unless somebody
sticks their neck out for you. You're just not plenty
of guys that can talk sports. When I was at
Oklahoma State, I wanted to be on the Gym Rome Show,
but Rome was it was very sporadic. So on ESPN Radio,
the only show that would constantly book me was Todd

(44:34):
Right All Night. Todd Right all Night, and I was
the college basketball contributor. Todd's show was on overnight. It
was outstanding, and my first shot at national sports radio
was my first year out of college. I was at
home in between things. Excuse me. It was after I

(44:56):
played in Russia for a year and nine to eleven happened,
and so everything got pushed back overseas and I got
to get a I got a call from our next
guest who invited me to come up to Bristol, Connecticut
and host Todd Wright's show for two nights because Todd
didn't want to fly to Bristol. And it was the
first weekend of sports being back after nine to eleven.
By the way, that first show, Dan Byer was the

(45:19):
day that Tom Brady had to play because Drew Bledsoe
got knocked out by the Jets. I was watching the
game at Sliders, which is a bar about two miles
from Bristol from ESPN, and all the Pats fans were
going Jets fans were going crazy. And on air that night,
this is mid November, Okay, mid November in two thousand

(45:45):
and one, I said, the Pats season is done because
Tom Brady, who couldn't even win the job full time
at Michigan, is now their savior. Oops, thank god there
wasn't freezing code tech cold takes the goods. Yeah. The
woman who stuck her neck out for me was Todd

(46:06):
Wright's producer she became my producer, executive producer, my boss,
My work wife. Luis Cornetta joins us now on The
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Luis, how are you.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
Oh, that's Scottlieb, one of my favorite humans. I am great,
and I am enjoying reminiscing and hearing of the stories.
You have a better memory than I do, because I
forgot about the Tom Brady bit. You think I would
remember that, being a Bostonian, but yes, I remember. We
wanted you to come and join us shortly after. You know,

(46:43):
you were our college basketball expert for what you were playing,
but you had bigger dreams and wanted to continue playing basketball.
So off you went to Russia and other places, and
we were glad when you came back and you said,
I'm ready, And yes, we had you fill in, and
wasn't long before we paired you with people like Chuck

(47:04):
Wilson and other veterans on ESPN Radio. But you were
so good we had to give you your own show.
The Doug Gottlieb Show was born.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Well, it wasn't at first the Doug Gottlieb Show, remember, Okay,
So it was it was game night for three years,
three to six, and then it was The Pulse, and
the Pulse was that it was seven to ten at night,
seven to ten at night, and then it became The
Pulse with Doug Gottlieb, and then I believe it was
two thousand and eight, Scott mess Teller came to my

(47:34):
house and said, how'd you like to have the show
named after you and do four to seven? And I said,
let's do it, let's roll.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Well.

Speaker 10 (47:45):
I have some memories and I was thinking about you
a lot. And one of the memories I have is
there's a lot of qualities about you that I admire.
One of them is your work ethic. You are certainly
the son of a coach because you were very coachable
on air. You listened and were eager to learn. But

(48:06):
I remember your work ethic being so strong that, like
you were saying, you would do radios then go to television.
But I remember Hayes being born. He was born during
March madness, right, and and you you know did you
went to the hospital and then race to get to
be on TV that night because you didn't want to
miss it. And that was you. You would, you would

(48:29):
work yourself to the bone and Another quality I remember
about you that you still have is your fearlessness, and
it is probably the quality I admire the most about you.
You were not afraid to ask the tough question. I
remember a very cantankerous interview with the late Tommy LASFORDA
takes about in my mind. I don't remember what it

(48:51):
was about, but you were not afraid to ask the
tough question where other people wouldn't. But also what controversy
would find you. You were not shy to say, hey,
here's what happened, let me explain you. Would you know,
meet it head on? Most people would.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Try and hide.

Speaker 10 (49:11):
Not you, And I think that's an incredibly admirable quality I.

Speaker 7 (49:17):
Get.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I got my favorite story, my favorite story. It's a
sales story. You guys ready for this one? This is
a good one. So the way it worked at ESPN
when Louise would come in and she say, hey, sales
wants to know if you'll do a KFC KFC read uh,
And I said, I don't know, Louise. I'm doing I'm

(49:37):
doing this big P ninety X campaign. If I do KFC,
I don't know if that works. And You're like, look, ads,
don't run back to back, I said, how about this.
KFC at the time had grilled chicken, so I said,
I'll do it. Can we do something about grilled chicken? Like,
I'll see what I can do. So that's like, I

(49:58):
don't know. Three months later I get a script and
basically it's like read this. So I read it, and
I'm doing the P ninety X campaign. And back then
we had a screen with text messages. The text line right,
and I'll never forget. I'm at a break and we
don't hear all the everything that's running. But apparently back
to back was the KFC ad which was for the

(50:20):
double Down. Now, for people who don't remember the double Down,
the double down was a piece of fried chicken, another
piece of fried chicken, two pieces of bacon and cheese,
and a breadless sandwich, which was a cardiologist dream. Okay,
but if you're on trying to do P ninety X
a nightmare and at the end sales must have gotten

(50:44):
to put it or try it grilled like I like it, right,
And when I tell you, I got lit up on
the text line from people call me a hypocrite and
whatever it was. And no, I did not leak the
P ninety X pictures to sports Brooks that did not happen.
They did not. Those were internal pictures that that that somebody,

(51:05):
somebody liked. Louise, we got to go as you know
where I'm always, I always, I do have clock issues constantly.

Speaker 11 (51:12):
Yes, okay, well then.

Speaker 10 (51:13):
I'm gonna up in thirty seconds quick.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
That.

Speaker 10 (51:17):
The last thing I want to say is I remember
a pivotal one in your career with you would had
just become a dad and you were whether to be
like the cool young guy on the air or the dad.
And I said, You've got to find out who your
authentic self is.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
And you did.

Speaker 10 (51:32):
You said I'm a dad and you went all in.
And I think because you just you figured out who
your authentic self is that really have carried you well
on the air. And I am so proud of you
for being your authentic self and saying I want to coach,
and you are following your dreams.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Do what you do.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Have shared this day with you, Louise. You mean the
world to meet. You're following your dreams as well as
you're singing and acting in Florida. And I saw your
show last year. It's awesome. It's with every ounce of
my soul. I thank you. I thank you. No no, no, no,
no no. You change my life forever. You know, yeah,

(52:14):
you don't. You don't get to ESPN list. Somebody goes
in and says, hire this guy, and you and Keith
Krowski did it, and I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (52:22):
You made me proud.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
You always do.

Speaker 11 (52:24):
All right, we'll talk to my friend.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
All right, lovey Luis, thanks so much. Have you heard
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(52:51):
there's Ramos gonna join us. All right, we'll talk some, Yeah,
we'll talk. We'll talk some Ramos, some Fox Sports Radio
plus my boy Adam Klug, who was my producer at
ESPN and for every year at CBS as well. I
moved his family back and forth across the country two
different times. But a dear friend who's been with me

(53:12):
for this journey.

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it's super fun? It really is, like I haven't actually worked.

(53:41):
I should do this all the time when I go
and speak to little kids at camp, like, hey, how
many of you guys love sports? How many guys talk
about sports? How many guys get paid to talk about sports?
And I'm like the only one with my hand up,
you know it's step So why And I think something
that's more perception, right, Like the reality is my basketball

(54:04):
team is better this year. And yeah, I've hired a
personal assistant, I've done some things to adjust my schedule
a little bit. But can it be done? Of course
it can be done. There's a little bit of that
Chris Rock. You know, you can drive your feet your
car with your foot, But that don't make it a
good idea, right, so you can do it. Doesn't make

(54:24):
the bigger thing, though, is you gotta have a life, right,
You gotta have a life. And I'm still gonna be
doing podcasts. I'll still be doing stuff. I don't know
what to do with myself when I you know, when
you're just sitting around at home and we have the
podcast all set up, it's been doing well, and we'll
we'll adjust some things and you'll be able to see
it on YouTube as well. But the point is that

(54:46):
live sports radio is an incredible passion of mine. But
my dream has always been to be a head coach
Division Ben men's basketball, and I don't want I don't
want to. Haven't got this opportunity to look back and go,
you know what if in year two I hadn't taken
a shot at seeing what it's like to not do

(55:07):
a live show every day. I'll tell you there's a
guy who we used to work with who walked away
from this place, and he did so because he wanted
to coach. He also wanted to see I think his
daughter and son go to high school and be kind
of a part of that process. And when you work,

(55:27):
especially when you're in production in sports radio, you work
a lot. You do a lot more than on air talent.
Does you make less money, You work way harder, You're
way more important. John Ramos is that guy. He's also
he walked away from Fox Sports Radio to work at
his daughter's high school, but also coach softball, and he's

(55:51):
coached baseball for his son as well. Just I want
to be a dad, Ramos. How are you?

Speaker 8 (55:57):
I'm good, Doug.

Speaker 12 (55:58):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I'm good. We won a game the other night, got
a little chance, got it. That's some recruiting, got some sunshine.
Headed back for one more game, here for a break?
All good, all good?

Speaker 12 (56:08):
Yes, yes. By the way, it's hard to follow somebody
who's who you tell them that you change their lives.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
So.

Speaker 12 (56:16):
Trying to follow that person like you changed my life
and that's John Ramos.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
So sorry, sorry about that, wrong Ramos, if you changed
my life as well? Ramos. There you go, There you go,
there you go all part of the promos. Uh yeah.
The best part about Ramos is and it's something that
I've come to try and do even in my job now.
And it's different when it's negative ten outside and we

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lost a lot of games last year. I've never I
never saw you in a bad mood. How How how
did you maintain that level of joy?

Speaker 12 (56:51):
I don't know. You know what's funny is even here
at the high school. The teacher will go by and
be like, you're always so happy. Why is that? Like,
I don't know. I think it's just the way I am.
I've always been that way since I was a kid.
Never really had anything to be angry about. So I
enjoyed doing radio for all the years I did it.
I enjoy being here at the high school around the

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students and coaching softball, which this year I'm moving up
to varsity assistant. Should be proud of me, Dug. I
moved up from jav Divarsity assistant this year, coming up
and guess what I'm teaching broadcasting and media and stuff
and so today, so students gave me a plaque and
stuff like that teacher and stuff. So it's been really great,
and I know for you it's going to be wonderful

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as well.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Does that plaque say sleepy John Ramos on it at
the White House?

Speaker 12 (57:42):
It does wake up.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Johnn You know why we had you on right.

Speaker 12 (57:50):
Because you thought I was one of the greatest techo
directors you've ever had.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah, sure that, and because we all just your laugh
is infectious.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
It's literally right, just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Of not a little bit a lot, okay, a lot,
a lot.

Speaker 12 (58:08):
They get it here, but it's during lunchtime and nobody
can hear it.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
O nobody.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You know, there's been a lot of great things said
about Doug in this last ninety minutes or so. I
think John can attest to this. When someone says like
Doug will take the shirt off his back for you,
it's true because it actually happened with John Ramos one
time you wore a NIKEO.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Do you still have it?

Speaker 8 (58:32):
John, I still have that shirt.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
Dog.

Speaker 11 (58:35):
Every time I put it on, I Mike.

Speaker 12 (58:36):
I hope I can't take a picture with it because
Doug will be like, hey, that's the shirt I gave wrong.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Do you remember this?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
You were wearing a Nike Polo. John goes, I like
that shirt, and I don't know what happened, but you
just took it off and gave it to him. Yes,
literally took the shirt off your back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
No't just say it. Live it. Don't just say John
Worth the next day without washing it as well. It
was crazy, John. One last thing walking away from radio
to pursue coaching Worth.

Speaker 12 (59:09):
It You know I miss I missed radio a lot,
I really do. It was my life, my career for
thirty years.

Speaker 9 (59:19):
It just was so much fun.

Speaker 12 (59:20):
I just heard you say it doesn't even feel like
you're working. It doesn't. And so yes, I do miss it,
but I enjoy where I'm at right now. I enjoy coaching.
I enjoy just like you're gonna. We're already doing it,
but just gonna kind of pull that one hundred percent
into it. And I think the boys or the growing
young adults, however you want to call them in college,
it's going to advance from you for that.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
So promise you the best. We love you here, we
miss you. I truly appreciate all those times of making
us just feel good when it wasn't always a great day.
You're the best man.

Speaker 12 (59:51):
Thanks mar Doug, thank you for those eight years. Man,
it was great. And just keep up the great work.
I'm going to keep following you do on Instagram and
all these different social media places and and I can't
wait to see you guys get into the NCAA tournament
at some point you from.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Your lips to God's ears. Not breaking news, not official,
but we're bringing the bringing the Phoenix back to southern
California next next year.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
Thanks so much, John, Okay, Doug A good one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. This show
has been in three different networks, and my producer my
final year at ESPN eventually joined me at CBS Sports
Radio for all five years We're there. H He now
runs a radio station in San Diego, the Padres Radio
Station in San Diego. His name's Adam Klug. He joins

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us now here on Fox Sports Radio. Cleugar, how are you?

Speaker 11 (01:00:40):
I'm doing great? Dog?

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I'm good? I mean, you know, I'm getting nostalgic one
because I'm old, and too because I'm I'm not going
to be doing live Afternoon Drive, which you know you
and I did together for for for six hours and
took so seriously. I think what's most interesting is like
Jason Wooden, he actually has no idea about how my

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approach has changed and how differently he and I worked together,
as opposed to you and I work together in setting
up topics. So Jason basically lays out the topics and
I just kind of go with it. I trust him.
He's got good instincts. He knows and not that you don't,
but you used to pitch him to me and guys,

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I'm telling you we had knockdown, drag him out arguments.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Do we not?

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
We We absolutely did.

Speaker 11 (01:01:29):
Those are some of the most fun times though, Like
you know, anytime we would get into it and like look,
we would get heated sometimes and I owners remind myself,
like this, like this is our job, right, We're just discussing,
like what kind of sports to talk about on the radio,
Like what could be better than that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
And I'm going to apologize for the line that it
was probably once a year I would say the line,
it's correct? Is that the is that the due? Just
think you could say a lot of time, No, that's
not what we should do. We should do this. That's clearger.
We should do this and here's why. And there's were

(01:02:06):
good talking about what and I said, that's great. But
you know what the show is called. You're like, no,
what's the show called?

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show Box Sports Dad, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
It is?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
That dog forgot it? So how you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:02:21):
Man, I'm doing I'm doing great. I'm following you from
Afar and you know, I know that you've been getting
nostalgic and I know that you're you know, I'm not
going to say quitting the national radio scene. I'm going
to say putting it on pause, because you know, you've
had such a tremendous career and I'm sure.

Speaker 7 (01:02:40):
One day you'll be doing it again.

Speaker 11 (01:02:41):
But I just got to say that I am so
thrilled that you've got this opportunity to chase your dreams
and become a college basketball coach. I kind of went
through the peaks and valley to highs and lows with you,
and there were some times back when I worked with you,
I was like, man, is he is he leaving me
high and dry here? And you know, going to to
become a coach at various states and you know they
didn't come to fruition, But certainly glad that you got

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this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Think about we've been friends long enough. You were a
long suffering Atlanta Falcons, Georgia Dog, Georgia Bulldog sports.

Speaker 11 (01:03:12):
Fans still long suffering Falcons?

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yes, fine, Okay, Braves have won a World Series, Dogs
won two national championships, might well win the third?

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
What are your thoughts on their chances this year?

Speaker 11 (01:03:27):
I think that George's got as good a chance as
any other team in the college football playoff, Right, Like
I don't think. I don't think this Georgia team is
as good as the ones that won the national title.
And I don't really think there's any dominant team. I
think people may have thought Ohio State was that team,
but I don't think that they are. And so I
think that it's a wide open field. Georgia gets to
get to experience the first round by and I think

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that God's good as show as anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I mean, it used to be. Listen, it used to
be a yearly thing, guys where I mean the worst
was the super Bowl? Right that was That was the
lowest of I think that was lower than any other point.

Speaker 11 (01:04:01):
We did the show, the Doug Gottlieb Show in Houston
for a full week when the Falcons were in the
Super Bowl facing the Patriots. And I'm born and raised
in Atlanta, and so I did everything. I tried all
I could, pulled all the strings I could to try
and stay for the game, because you know, the job
work paid for us to be out there Monday through
Friday and then the plane right home Friday after we

(01:04:23):
were done at Radio Row. So I was like, I
gotta change my flight. I got to try and book
additional hotel night and it's not cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:04:29):
The week of the Super Bowl, I got to find
a ticket into the game, and it was going to
cost me a lot, an arm and a leg, and
I decided, you know what, I'm just not going to
do this. I'm going to go home and make sure
that we're all buttoned up and ready to be. You know,
the Monday after the Super Bowl is a huge day
in sports talk ratios. I'm gonna make sure we're dialed
in and ready to go. And boy, was that one
of the worst, you know, the worst sporting event I've

(01:04:50):
ever watched as a fan. And I can't even imagine
if I would have dropped out whatever it was five
or ten grand to stay for that game and experience that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
My lord, yeah, you might have left because you're you're
a leave early guy too. You might have left when
when the when the game was game was twenty twenty eight,
twenty eight to three.

Speaker 11 (01:05:04):
I am a leave early guy. And I kept telling
my wife of like, we got this, We're gonna wait,
We're gonna wait. You like, Adam, you're in Atlanta, sports fan,
you can't say that you know you've seen this before.
I go, no, no, this time is going to be different.
She like Adam, and she ended up being right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
It was not different.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
I know everybody in this room is good at what
we do. Me and you together at super Bowls five
years in a row was magical because you would be
tracking people down. Brett Favre stopped what he was doing
and was leaving and came back in to do to
give us probably a half hour offset, and the two

(01:05:39):
of us working together where you'd set them up and
I'd knock him down and wouldn't know Who's coming up next,
and still understand how to carry on a conversation and
do these unbelievable interviews. It's the best we've ever been.

Speaker 11 (01:05:53):
I felt like I was in my element at Radio Row.
And it's funny because I was giving the spot when
you know, when Jason reached out tap me on, I
would saying thinking about kind of some of our highlights
in one of in terms of the interviews and that
Radio Row in Houston. Do you remember who our final
guest was of the entire week?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
So.

Speaker 11 (01:06:12):
The Falcons are in the Super Bowl that week against
the Patriots. We had Ark, We had Arthur Blank, the
owner of the Falcons booked, and so the owner of
one of the teams in the Super Bowl. That's a
that's a great interview, right. I mean he was at
Radio Row, but we had him and so he was
on with you. We had the big stage because the
show was on TV simulcast and all that stuff, So
we had the big lights in the stage, and you're

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talking to the owner of the Falcons, Arthur Blank. And
I look over and there's like a crowd of people
kind of leaning on the stage. And I look over,
and who's leaning on the stage. I assume you remember this,
Mike Vick. Michael Vick is leaning on our stage. And
I take my head set off. I jumped down from
the little table I was at and I run over.

(01:06:54):
I kind of grabbed his arm and I pulled him
up on the stage and walked him over in the
middle of you talking to Arthur Blank, like, here go
former Falcons, you know, franchise quarterback. And obviously this is
well after his arrest and incarceration and out of jail
and al there's time of the Eagles and it's like,
here's the Falcons in the Super Bowl, and here's the
owner of the Falcons, Arthur Blank and Mike Vick on
The Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Pretty awesome.

Speaker 11 (01:07:16):
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Hey man, you were great at it. You're great to me.
We were an awesome team. Maybe maybe together again someday soon.
But in the meantime, Go Dogs, Go Phoenix. Rooting for
your boys in the in the playoffs. I'm you know,
I've become a Georgia Bulldog fan. Loved your family. Happy
Hanukah to you. Let's talk soon.

Speaker 11 (01:07:36):
Thank you, Doug. Same to you, and I love you
so much and I wish nothing but the best for you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Look, you're the best, man. Have a go one. Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. I forget which one
I'm supposed to read. What do I owe you? Okay,
we're all good. We're all good. I got a lot
of people to think, but most of the guys in
this room. That's coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Snug Otley The Show here on Fox Sports Radio. My
absolute favorite Christmas song, part of it is my mom
Jane in Orange California, who listens to all of my shows,
loves that King Cole. Also Johnny Mathis is her favorite.
But my dad used to love that King Cole. So

(01:08:25):
if you're just joining us my last show on Fox
Sports Radio and the live radio feed, of course, you
can download my podcast All Ball. That's where all the
content will go. So if you already have a subscription
for you, it'll still work, and if not, download it
wherever you download podcasts. I've worked here for eight years.

(01:08:45):
Dan Byer's been here all eight of those years and
probably ninety of the shows, and we today it's streamed
live on YouTube, but we've since I moved to Green Bay,
we have a zoom which you know could have been
a livestream as well. And I told him this off air,

(01:09:06):
and I'll tell hi an on air. Dan's like a
calming influence on me. Right, He's so solid, so prepared,
so knowledgeable, and just he has that calming kind of
voice that honestly, when we when I press the zoom
button and I can see him, I just I feel
automatically better about the day in sports radio because I

(01:09:27):
know that if I screw something up, he'll know it.
If there's a fact that I need. He knows it,
and he also is not afraid to speak his mind,
and that's what this is supposed to be about. So
I don't know what the future of this portion. I

(01:09:47):
don't have control over that, but I can tell anybody
who's listening, including our bosses, if there's any ever somebody
who deserves an opportunity to have a weekday show, it
is you, Danbyer, because you treat people well, that's important,
but also you're prepared, you have an opinion, and you

(01:10:09):
just have a great way of speaking in your intonation
of your voice, the pacing of it, all of those
things they just work. And I truly appreciate our time
with the last eight years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Well I've appreciated, and it's very kind of you to
say the eight years have gone by. I remember meeting
you in the courtyard, but it wasn't the first time
that I met you. Have told this story before. It
was when you were doing the Great Outdoor Games for
ESPR in two thousand and four and I was working
at an iheartstation in Madison. We were an ESPN affiliate
at that time. You were with ESPN and you came

(01:10:41):
over and we just chatted us up, and so I
always had this impression of man, Doug Gottlieb's a good guy,
just comes over shoots the bull. Never would have thought
that thirteen, fourteen years later, whatever it would be, that
we would form an eight year relationship, but travels here,
there and everywhere, teeing it up. It's been an honor,
been an honor to share the microphone with you for

(01:11:02):
these eight years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Sank Sammy you have You've probably been with us the
least amount of time, but you are a resident Cliff
Craven and you're You're colorful, and I've also your love
and knowledge of college football. It like tickles the heart
of me and Dan, especially because you're out here in California,
you know where people don't care as much.

Speaker 13 (01:11:21):
You know what's funny is I actually got I got
here to Fox Sports Radio. It'll be ten years in May,
but I got here like right before you did. But
I worked with you a lot on filling basis, and
it was always like, uh, I gotta work with Doug.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
He's gonna keep me on my toes.

Speaker 13 (01:11:34):
You sharpened me. You sharpened me as a tech producer
because be throwed to update throw this sound throw to
that and you really got to be ready. But I
want to say that maybe I say you're about fifteen,
maybe even twenty years ago. I saw you on TV
and I'm like, who is this Doug Gottlieb. He's a
smart ass. He's like he's really really hard on teams.
Maybe Steve Alford was coaching IOWA and I remember seeing

(01:11:55):
you on TV and I'm like, I don't know if
I like this guy. I never thought I would be
working with you all these years later. So it's been
an experience, I'll tell you that. And we have, Phil,
I have worked with you off and on for like
the last eight years. How long have you been here
in the last two and a half two years or
so full time? But we'll miss you, Doug, and we'll
miss all the crazy highjinks on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
And now I grew up listening to Rome and Jacedu
was part of Rome, so we've known each other forever
and I begged him to join us a couple of
years before he ultimately join us. Jaced You've been awesome, man.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Well I appreciate it back at you and I did well.
You told the story earlier in the show, but soon
after Will Hancock had reached out to me and said this,
Doug Gottlieb wants to be your college basketball correspondent. I
got a phone call in my office one day. I
don't know if I arranged it or if you just
felt the need to call it to sell me a
little bit more. And I talked to it. Was nineteen

(01:12:48):
ninety nine, November nineteen ninety nine. Maybe flash forward twenty
two years. We're in the middle of the pandemic. Scott
Shapiro calls me and says, Doug wants you to who's
this radio show? This business is full circle, full cycle.
And I appreciate everything that you've done for me in
my career, and I appreciate our friendship.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Thanks Jay, to those of you who listened for the
last twenty three years. You've been moving through basketball, different jobs, marriage, kids, divorce,
now coaching. I appreciate your radio's relationship. Consider me your friend.

(01:13:31):
If I said something to piss you off, is just
because I thought your sports team of your player wasn't
as good as some other sports teamer player. It was
for the most part and never personal. And it's a
pleasure you zoom out of your life and I'm not
yet fifty. I always dreamed of being on TV playing basketball.

(01:13:55):
I did that. I always dreamed of doing this talking
about sports. And I've always dreamed about being a Division
one men's head basketball coach. And you know, I don't
know if this clears up more time to have a
better life. I've worked Christmases, Thanksgivings, any holiday, anytime. I'm

(01:14:18):
an never say no. Guy can't say you want something
and go well, I want it on my time. Doesn't
work that way. Doesn't work that way. But to the
people at iHeart to Scott Shapiro and Don Martin who
brought me over here, I appreciate you. Thank you. To
Chris Olivero at CBS Sports Radio, I thank you. I

(01:14:38):
appreciate you. To Luis Cornetta, to Bruce Gilbert, who is
then at ESPN Radio, I appreciate you. And to my
kids that I missed a lot of stuff, but you've
got a lot of stuff because I got all this
time on sports radio. Try and be a better man,
try and be a better dad, and I'll try and
be a better coach. It's not goodbye forever. You can

(01:15:01):
still check out the podcast, but for now it's bidding.
I do Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah. This is the Doug
Outlieb Show.