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What a night it was last night in the NBA,
the NBA on NBC. And we are not talking about
your clippers.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
A victory against Rows.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
We are not talking about that at all. We're talking
about the Dallas Mavericks and Cooper Flagg surviving the Denver
Nuggets getting a big win for Dallas. And now Cooper
Flag is nineteen moncey. He is a new man at
nineteen years of age. Cooper Flagg is coming into his
own even joking last night that he has he's missed
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like one or two. It's actually two threes since he
turned twenty, since he turned nineteen. Over the but Cooper
Flag has been on a tear. The Maveris Mavericks are
the first fifteen games of the season, We're four and eleven.
Cooper Flag was averaging fifteen and a half points per contest,
six rebounds per game in three assists per game. Now
Cooper Flag over the next fifteen games, averaging almost twenty
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three points per game, six and a half rebounds per contest,
and he's up the assist numbers to four and a
half dimes per contest. And so now we are at
the point where the number one overall pick maybe not
a generational talent like Victor Wembin Yama, but I think
very very few are. Like when you talk about the
Victor Webbin Yama like it is, it's like Louel Sinder,
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Lebron James, and Victor Webber.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yama, right, they're outliers, like completely.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Like Wembin Yama, Lebron and Kareem were so like I
think I can put Tim Duncan in that conversation as well.
But Cooper Flag went not rise to the level of
that yet. However, he would be on the level below
because of how young he is and monci for what
is transpired in the first thirty games of this season
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to see the quick turnaround from Cooper Flag to see
he should be a freshman in college right now, like
truly he reclassified. He went to the NBA draft early,
or went to Duke early so he could go to
the NBA draft early. It's why he's nineteen years old.
Cooper Flag right now for the Dallas Mavericks, the way
that he is playing, I think needs to be an
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NBA All Star.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Ooh, I mean okay.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Watching Cooper Flag from the first couple of games to now,
it's crazy to see how good his footing has become.
Because I think we all expected him to be good,
or everyone hoped he would be good. And everybody in
a way is rooting for the Mavericks and Cooper Flag
because of Whitney Go Harrison did. We'll never forget, so
we're all kind of rooting for him. But he did
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not look the way he did thirty games ago. Would
crazy to say the jump. He has been really good,
and I hear.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
What you're saying that he should.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Be an All Star because we've talked about the All
Star Game in the past, Dan that it's like what's
missing from it, and every year there are players who
are not in it who should be in it, whether
they don't get in because their team record is not
good or because there are other players who are slightly better.
He is really good, but I don't know does he
actually move the.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Needle like that?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I think that he has the ability. Yes, really, yes,
I do. I really think that that he does. I
think that the situation that he's in with the Mavericks
is it's a little unfortunate because you're still trying to
follow Luka Doncic's shadow. That's true, and there's also Listen,
there's also a contingent that would say, what are you
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talking about, Dan? He's not even the best He's not
even the best rookie in the NBA that just came
into the draft from Duke Conkappel for mishelon Hornets has
been magnificent, but for his great as kan Kaneppl has been,
He's not Cooper flag And I do think that Cooper
Flagg does carry this aura with him and at nineteen
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years old, when he was when he was eighteen years
old and he was seventeen years old playing against the
US men's national team, they would say on how different
of a player he was, and so it took him
fifteen games to kind of get acclimated. But if I'm
watching the NBA All Star Game, which is going under
a completely different format again this year, m M, it's
also going to be on earlier in the day. Did
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you know that that it's it's not going to be
a primetime broadcast. It'll be five Eastern, two Pacific.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
They'll took it off from me if anyone's watching.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's a package deal with NBC. So the NBC will
have their Olympics and then the Olympics will move into
the to the All Star Game. But you've got the
US against the World. There's going to be two American teams,
one team of international players. They'll play a round robin
of three games and then the final quarter will be
the championship game. But you have sixteen American players, sixteen
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American players that are going to be named to the
NBA All Star list. And there are some right off
the bat that you're like, Okay, no brainer, right, Tyrese Maxey,
Donovan Mitchell. Those guys are going to be All Stars,
are going to be a part of this game. But
when we start getting down to the lower list, and
we know Lebron didn't want to play last year, so
maybe Lebron shouldn't even be a part of it this year.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
That's cute that you think he's not going to participate,
Well just say that's cute.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Of course he's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He may be there and then not playing not play, which.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Is he took Norman Powell's spot. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, Norman Powell has a great case to.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Maybe if you have a yes in Miami MVP this.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Year, but you need to have Cooper Flag in this
All Star Game because I do think that he moves
the needle. I think he is one of the next
superstars in the NBA. And one of the problems with
the NBA that I that I think is Lebron and
some of the older heads just never leaving, so there's
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not an opportunity for somebody else to take over the
league themselves. Now, maybe Wemby will do it. I don't
know if SGA is doing it, but I think Wemby
would have more of the opportunity to do so. But
I think that Cooper Flagg could be as part of
that conversation. And this allows that growth, This begins that growth,
this continues that growth growth, and I would want to
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see Cooper Flagg against the best players from the international
team against the other American team. I think that's good
TV and ultimately that's what the NBA wants. So that's
why I just think for all those reasons Manzi that
he needs to be an All Star. And I'm sorry
for some of the players that aren't going to make
the cut, but it's more important for Cooper Flag to
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be an All Star than some of those other guys.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
We've literally seen the NBA fail at putting what people
want to watch in front of us. They have not
done the logical decisions that we have maybe discussed over
the years.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And so if it was.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Him or Orknippal, you would say both, or you would
say just say Cooper Flag. Just Cooper Flag, because you know,
the Mavericks are eleventh in the Western Conference and so
it's like, but they are looking better, and it's like,
I would not be I would not be mad at
all if he's in it. I'm just really wondering, like
maybe he does move the needle, but like, does anyone.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Truly care about the All starium? Are people going to
tune in?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And yeah, maybe he should at least participate in some way.
He's got to be there. He's got to be one
of the reasons. But I just don't know who would
he snub. And that's the question, who would he snub?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So this is with the new format the way it
is is.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Not properlate, right or is it still eastern West?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You'll be voted. They'll be voted in East and West.
They will be Okay, Now what they're hoping twenty four
players in all and this is the other This is
the tricky thing about the NBA. It's just confusing for
people to understand the format. Twelve starters or twelve players
will be named from the east, twelve players will be
named from the west. Those are your twenty four all Stars.
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Their fingers are crossed that it's sixteen American players and
eight international players.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You know it's not going to be so you know
they're going to manipulators and they're going to do what
they want correct exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So now we get into the equation of manipulation, correct,
not earning, not just popularity, which I think Cooper Flag,
by the way, because of his popularity, could be one
of those players voted in. This is what I think
is important is that there is a ninth international player
that may get snubbed under this current. That's the real
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snub not the fifteenth or sixteenth best American player that
would sit out because of Cooper Flag. It's the international
which Cooper Flag has nothing to do about. So the
format is already kind of silly, right, They're trying to
make us watch, They're trying to make us USA against
the world. It's a tie in with the Olympic, with
the Winter Olympics that are going on. There's even going
to be programming. I think Team USA plays hockey prior
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on NBC to the All Star Game. All of this
is contrived, So why not rig it? Were most popular
star gets into the most marquee event outside of your playoffs?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, no, I think I think you. You make a
lot of good points. I just really don't know if
I can trust the NBA to make their smart decision.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Let's be real. MAZI just feels bad for brandon Ingram
and Norman Powell, right, I mean those are the guys.
Those are the guys that we are talking about. Yeah,
can be on the cutting room floor on.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
The French who have not been there.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Brandon Ingram and what he's doing with the Toronto Raptors,
no one expected that.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
No one expected that. Did you have the Raptors being
third in the Eastern Conference? No, not even a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Not even a little bit. And also yeah, like the
heater in it, but the heater always in it. I yes,
maybe I do have a soft spot for other players.
I just have seen the NBA fail in the past
of making the smart, logical decision, and I'm wondering if
they're gonna, if they're actually gonna put him in when
he should be, even if he doesn't. Put him in,
even if he doesn't deserve it. That's what you're saying, Yes,
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put him in, even if he doesn't deserve If.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's close, he's in. He gets the benefit of the doubt.
It's more beneficial for the league to have him. Yes.
Why do you think Nuggets Mavericks was on NBC last night?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right, yes, right?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like I mean it wasn't just because of Jokic.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, definitely, or Anthony Davis. Yes, yes, it was because
of him.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yes, So Rockets Clippers ends up following you can. It's
Kevin Durant and Rockets are really good the worst stink Clippers. Yes,
but it's James Harden and Kawhi Leonard. And that's right
back to the fact. Here's the here's the good thing
for those in the camp with me that agree that
Cooper Flag should be an All Star. The course that
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he is setting and if he does this over the
next fifteen games before that All Star Game, I think
he could make the case for himself that he deserves
to be there. But if it comes down to the
point where it's borderline and he continues this sort of play,
he has to he has to be in. He was
the talk of the town last night, He's been the
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talk of the town over the last couple of weeks.
And that's what the the NBA is doing really well.
But you need Cooper Flagg, who may not be that
generational super generational Wemby because of how much of a
freak Wenby is, but still he is up there of
the years that you wanted to win the NBA Draft lottery.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, you're making all the right points.
You're making all the right points, and I hope, I
hope they do put him in. But I'm gonna sit here,
and when they put him in, I'm gonna tell you
of the ones who got snubbed, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
We see, because these guys should have made it. There's
always a few.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's different when Lebron's been there.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Lebron should not be in it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No, But like last year, so Norman Powell gets basically
snubbed because Lebron is in and then he backs out
of the game. And that's yeah, correct, that really stinks. Absolutely,
Lebron should not be in it.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
He's just right now already. Hey, guys, thank you. You
can give me an honorable, you know, mention. But he
should not be in it. He should not even be
considered and you should take himself out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yes, I'm with you. I totally agree with that. I
totally agree. No, I think I think you're convincing me.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, No, Cooper Flag should be in it because if anybody,
I really was wondering if.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He moved the needle.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
But maybe because of the whole situation where like there's
all these unks in the NBA that we're still following,
right like all the old guys, that's what we're tuning in.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So I'm wondering, does he move the needle? But maybe
you're right, maybe he does.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think that there is a generation of players This
happened in the NFL with quarterbacks and the probably quarterbacks
that were drafted fifteen years ago. Talking about the Russell Wilson's,
the Cam Newton's, the Andrew lux guys that were thought
to carry the torch from Brady and Breeze and Philip Rivers,
but that just never came to fruition. So now I
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kind of jumped, and now it's oh, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, those, yeah, those are the guys. I think
It's kind of that way in the NBA. Yes, I
think so with Steph and Lebron and Kevin Durant staying
around as long as they have the other that that
next generation of players kipped. Yeah, yeah, and so now
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it's going to be And I actually think that the
NBA players are better than the product of the NFL
quarterbacks that were in that generation. But I mean there
was a point where we thought that Giannis and Nicola
jokicchen Yokich may still be the best player in the
NBA right now, but like those are days now in
the past. Now it's these other young guys that are
moving up, Like Anthony Edwards for as great as he is,
for Jason Tatum, for right, you know, as great, it's
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like it's already past their time for them to take
over and beat the NBA.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I never I never even thought of that, And you're
so right, there was like a generation that was skipped
and only a few came out of that, Nicola Jokic
being one of them. Right, all the other ones are
just kind of like, yeah, they were good, but we
definitely skipped them over.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And now it seems like Cooper five can be the
start of the ones taking over the torch.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I think I love that and and I think
that two players. I think that Luca and I think
that Kate Cunningham could have toggled on both sides. Yes,
but now though maybe with the younger because.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
They are still I still look at them as younger,
even though like we've seen Luca what now seven years
eight years? Yeah, but I still look at him as
a younger generation.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yes, I did too, all right, She's wat, I'm Dan Bayer.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Cooper.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He does he needs to be an All star.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
He does need to be an All Star. But I'm
more like with the thing of like this giving the generation.
I never thought of it like that, but that makes
perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He also may single handedly bring back the crappy mustache
look because that thing, oh my goodness, like that is
that is such a nineteen year old mustache.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
It shows his age.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, right, it is struggling so hopefully the mustache and
goateee can take off the next fifteen games like this
game has. But otherwise maybe they should just that that
should be a thing at Mavericks games.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Him and Paul Skeins.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
He's brought back the T shirt. Yeah right, what Skemes is?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No, Skeins is also just there.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I thought more planned. Cooper Flags brought back the T
shirt underneath.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, yes, he has jersey.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Other players would wear like the the.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
More compression yes, yes, and he's wearing like a T
shirt like literally yeah, because Anthony Davis war was like
the compression shirt under.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Changing the game.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Oh man, but he's like the young guy and he's acting.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like the old guy with that T.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Shirt and then mustache and he's only nineteen in five
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Radio on this Christmas Eve. On Christmas Day, five NBA games,
three NFL games, a choice that we didn't have at
one point I mentioned earlier in asking you about where
you've spent different Christmases. I remember growing up and spending
the Christmases back in the Midwest, and the Bucks stunk,
so they were never a Christmas Day game opportunity. But
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TV wasn't on. There was no football on. Maybe once
in a great while there would be a game on
Christmas Day, but the TVs were off. And so then
when I moved to southern California twenty years ago, I
was surprised that how much the Lakers playing on Christmas
Day was a tradition that it was for people in
southern California, just like watching the Lions or Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Absolutely absolutely, as a Clipper fan, I was watching like
Christmas was, Oh, I gotta watch Lakers play, like this
is what we're we're doing today we're watching We're all
gonna we're all gonna not just even just have it
on in the background, We're all actually gonna probably watch
it for the most part and have.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It on the main TV somewhere.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
In the NFL now is an all on assault on
Christmas Day. Last year they figured out a way to
play Wednesday games. Yeah, hell is. That's when you knew,
when they doctor the schedule to have teams play on
Saturday the week before so then they could play on
the Wednesday of the week and then have more of
a break. That's when you knew that the NFL was
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really trying to take over Christmas Day. And it allowed
a broadcast partner, new broadcast partners to break into the
broadcasting world with a window that was kind of untouched
and clean. So Netflix now has two of the games
on Christmas Day. Prime Video will have the late game
between the Broncos and the Chiefs. Yeah, not not good,
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not good at all. But Netflix on this has the
Lions and Vikings after the Cowboys and Commanders, and of
those four teams, the Lions have a slim playoff. Hope
Max Brozmur is gonna be starting for the Vikings, the
Cowboys coming off their loss facing a banged up Commander's team,
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like there is just it is not a great slate.
It is not a good slate of football. The question now,
is the bad slate of football enough for the NBA
to regain its power on Christmas Day?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
For this year.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Absolutely, It's just this just goes to show. It's like
you got too greedy, NFL. You got too greedy. You
could have had one game on Christmas and.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Then maybe it's not that bad.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
But you look at the slate and then you look
at are you really Are you really going to tune
in and wake up to watch the Cowboys and the Commanders.
Are you really gonna get up to do that here
in La beat or so of the Calvern at ten
am one eastern?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Are you really gonna get up and watch that? Absolutely not.
But you know what, I may get up and watch
dam the Cavaliers and the Knicks. I may actually get
up and watch that one.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
The NBA slate is good from top to bottom, and
it's all day, all day down to the bottom.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But I think the NBA has always had good games,
but it's just did they resonate enough with people and.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But do they need to resonate like that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think that I think that they do. I don't
think anybody. I don't think that there are many people
who will watch all five NBA games on the schedule.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Sure, I think it could be on not maybe not
they're not watching, but the TV will be on all day.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
An NBA I agree with that. I think though, that
the NFL would be the first option. I just think
the Netflix portion of this is the tricky portion of this.
So we're going to open up presidents as a family.
This is me and speaking myself only. I can guarantee
at the time that we're sitting there and have a
(23:00):
Christmas get together, Calves and Nicks will not be on
at nine o'clock local time. Different on the East Coast
it's noon. Maybe people are more on with their day
at that point, but for us, it is not going
to be. It is not going to be on at
ten o'clock. Will I turn on Cowboys Commanders? Probably? I
already have Netflix, and I think a lot of people do,
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but not everybody does. And that's the point where I
get with this, Manzi is I think people will be
turning on and turning on the NBA, and it may
not be right away because whether you have cable or
satellite or maybe YouTube TV, you don't have to pay
extra or go through an extra subscription service to access
(23:44):
Cavaliers and Knicks. And I think that's the biggest advantage
where if Netflix had a game worth watching, I think
people are going through the efforts to try to chase
that game down, whether they're loading up their Netflix subscription
or they're having a subscripcription of their own. That's where
I think that these games miss for the NFL is.
I don't think there are gonna be new subscriptions, and
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I think if people are just ready to tune into something,
they'll just end up tuning into the NBA games because
they're easier to access.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
For that, I do agree with you that the Netflix
level of tomorrow, if you want to watch these games,
it's not gonna benefit. No one is going to add
a subscription. You are one hundred percent right for these games.
But when you ask me, like, well, what game has
resonated with you when it comes to the Christmas games,
I feel like with the NBA, like, at least for me,
like a game that would resonate probably a playoff game,
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probably a high scoring game for somebody on the Clippers,
you know what I mean, Like a Blake Griffin, a
lob City.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That's what resonates.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
But I feel like with football there's a lot more.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Resonates because there's less games.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
With the NBA, I feel like you just want to
be entertained, and I can tune in for two minutes
if I'm at home, I'm gonna have the NBA guy,
I am gonna be watching the NBA games. I can
tune in for like three minutes of the Kavs Nicks
game and get fun three minutes of NBA. I can
tune in for five minutes of the Commanders and Cowboys,
and I'm gonna get nothing probably out of five minutes
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of watching that.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
There's nothing for me to look forward to. What am
I looking forward to?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Fantasy football?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I don't have anybody playing in those teams, So.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Betting I probably not.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I rather bet. I rather bet in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
And I just I think that that it's a benefit
with the NBA that you can't just kind of have
it on in the background and tune in and out.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
With the NFL, I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And then these games I'm really not gonna want to
care for the minor details.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It is difficult to have the NFL on passively.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
It is absolutely exactly exactly with the NBA.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You just have it on, so just check in and
check out Chris Pherfett or technical producer.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Yeah, I just feel like as a Lions fan, it's
I think there is something to the difficulty of making
sure the Christmas matchup you're going to have in the
NFL is going to be a meaningful one. Like I mean,
this was always the problem with like Lions Thanksgiving for
so long, right, Like it's always like, well, we should
take the Lions off Thanksgiving so we can get a
meaningful game. You've got these games playing for Christmas and
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luck of the draw you were going on. You were
going on teams that were good last year that you
were kind of guessing are going to be important divisional
matchups for this season, and they're not, like, as you say,
the Lions need like it's more important for the Lions
for Packers to lose than is for the Lions to
win for them to get in. And then it's the
other games completely useless in any kind of standings. It
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NFL needs meaning to their games, whereas the NBA this
time of year, like, as you say, mons, you can
put on whatever as far as some great talent, because
at this point the year, those games are not going
to be to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
But entertain me, yes, right, Like they're not meaningful, but
they're going to be entertaining.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
The NFL drives so much of its games being meaningful
that when you then start putting on meaningless games, it
really devalues. And then you have to also pay a
Netflix subscription on top of it.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I knew that there are years that the Lions weren't good,
and I was always a support of the Lions being
on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well, I feel like, isn't that just the tradition?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Though, yes, like for Thanksgiving you're gonna sit through a
bad game, but it's like Thanksgiving football.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yuh honestly, And because I mean, the Lakers and Rockets
are two good teams, but outside of the Spurs in
Oklahoma City of being like that's that to me is
the is the marquee game. Rockets Lakers is second to
me just because of the nostalgia of the Lakers always
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playing on that so that that would have that, that
would they would be the Cowboys of Thanksgiving Day essentially
of watching that game, and the Cowboys game always gets
the highest ratings of any regular season game in this year,
set like Mucho records. Again, in a game against the.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Chiefs the Mavericks Warriors could be a fun game. You
could see Cooper Flag maybe going off and Jimmy Butler
and Steph Curry dropping you know, eighteen threes.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You may see Draymond do something crazy that would maybe
be the reason for it. I think that the I
don't want, like, I would not want a game between
like the Seahawks and Rams just they played last Thursday.
I don't want that on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I don't think, Yes, that makes perfect sense. And so
if you focus on that.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yes, that is like that is such a high strung,
high leveraged game for fans that it takes up your Christmas.
So I'm not necessarily mad that the NFL has these matchups,
but you can't tell me that's what they were going
for when they put the Lions and Vikings, the two
top teams in the NFC North to Christmas Point last year,
or Denver in Kansas City, as Denver made the postseason
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last year and the Chiefs were coming up. You can't
tell me that's not what they were going for. Like
the Cowboys and Commanders, the Cowboys didn't make the playoffs
last year. The Commanders were due for a setback after
what happened last year. Did we think they were going
to be set back this much that now you're down
to your third string quarterback? No, but I didn't think that.
We thought that that would be for the NFC East Crown.
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That's where I think that the NFL, and if it
was Lions Bears, maybe it's too meaningful of a game,
but I don't want a game that means everything. Maybe
have Eagles Bills beyond Christmas Day, because that's the Sunday
afternoon game. By the way, in the Sunday window, because
of the Saturday games that they have, there's only two
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late games in Week seventeen. It's the Giants and Raiders
for the first overall pick loser likely gets the number
one overall pick in the draft, and it's Eagles Bills.
And while the Eagles and Bills of both both clinch
playoff spots. Sure there's some playoffs seating, but there's not
a lot there Eagles Bills on a Christmas Day would
be fun, It would be a must watch, but it
wouldn't be that everything is on the line for this game.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That the NFL probably should have put that game instead.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They would win for big games.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, but you knew. My point is is you purposely
did divisional games hoping that they would mean something for
the division. Eagles Bills would not have been Yeah, you
knew the Bills were going to be in it. You
knew the Eagles were going to be in it. But
them playing each other does not affect it as opposed
to two divisional opponents would. Sure, if the Bills lose,
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it hurts their seating or if the Eagles lose it,
it hurts their seating. But by putting the division matchups,
I think that the NFL was kind of destined to fail.
We had Packers Dolphins a couple of years ago, I
think was one of the Christmas games, and I think
that that was That's a that's a good game, Packers
are popular, doesn't do much damage in terms of the standings,
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Like that's what the NFL needs, needs more of.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, and I wonder if they'll change that for next year.
Because it seems like that that wasn't the approach for this.
It seems like they wanted the meaningful games. Yes, and
it makes sense that you.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Wouldn't want that. Yeah, I wouldn't want that. I don't
want to have to pay attention like that.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Correct, And it's it's like they put all their chips.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
In the into the really exactly.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Yeah, But I think the issue is like, if you
were Netflix, you want meaningful games because you want people
to watch them, to watch that these are the only
games Netflix gets all year.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
But that's almost like someone give you bad advice. Everybody
loves the NFL. You don't need it to be meaningful.
Do you think you need to be entertaining?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah. Do you think they would turned down Eagles Bills. No.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
I don't think they'd turned down Eagles Mills. But I
think there's also an impetus on them. It's like when
they go to the NFL, it's like, we want meaningful
games in December. What you think are gonna be the
most meaningful to put on Christmas?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah? I think Eagles Bills is a fun game.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think that that's more of that's more of the game.
And then if because we've seen them flex. It's easier
to flex a game on the same day, meaning you
move it from a one Eastern to a four to
twenty five kick as opposed to switching days, and you'd
have more flexibility putting divisional games on a Sunday to
flex them out of that late window. If you wanted
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to put Lions Vikings at four to twenty five Eastern
time at the beginning of the season on a Sunday,
go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
I think there is also something that we're basically getting
two teams on actually I think more than that that
also played on Thanksgiving that are now also playing on Christmas.
We're getting a little too much of the Lions and Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Now. We sure Chiefs, right, but so that's their cash cow.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
That's probably what they thought the safest bet was put
the Chiefs on on Christmas.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
These are all through. These games six months ago looked
like hits. Yeah, it's just the way the seasons unfolded.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
They don't.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
I think you guys are all making great points, and
I still think we're gonna come in here on Friday
morning and the NFL will have drawn millions of more
viewers than.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
The NBA will I agree with that. Cowboys alone.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
The Cowboys game alone is going to get higher ratings
than anything on the NBA schedule.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I think we've learned anything from these Lions being good,
Like they're a ratings drawer now too, Like.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Just who's the for the Commanders, Max Bras from the
Commanders Josh Johnson.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Doesn't matter, he's playing the stars in the Star. Yeah,
that's really what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
How about them Cowboys? How about that? Isaac Low and
Kron at the news desk giving us the latest of
what's happening today. What's going on?
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Isaac, Well, the latest? Dan and Massie, how about this?
Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker t J. Watt returned to the practice
field today after missing a couple of weeks and just
a couple of weeks because of a partially collapsed lung.
He was officially listed as a limited participant. Got to
watch those treatments in the locker room involving syringes and needles. Apparently.
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Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson did not practice today for
the second straight day because of a back contusion. John
Harbaugh telling reporters Jackson's status for Saturday night's game at
Green Bay has not been determined yet. The Minnesota Itings
ruled out running back Jordan Mason and tied in TJ
Hockinson for their Christmas Day game against the Lions. The
Lions listed receiver Amana Ross Saint Brown as questionable because
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of a knee injury, and running back David Montgomery is
questionable due to illness. The Kansas City Chiefs today placed
receivers Rashie Rice and Taekwon Thornton, as well as cornerbacks
Trent McDuffie and Jalen Watson on injured reserve. They also
listed defensive end George Carloftis and linebacker Nick Bolton as
questionable for their Christmas Day game against the Broncos. Sesame
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that that Detroit Lions fan who is physically confronted by
Steelers receiver DK Metcalf last Sunday, we'll be holding a
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press conference with his attorneys on Friday too, and I
quote address the assault. Correct misinformation that has been publicly
repeated as fact and discuss the serious consequences he has faced. Unquote,
mark your calendars for Friday.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
He's saying it in a sarcastic sort of way. Yeah,
I agree with I agree with the fan that what
that he should have a press conference. Why we'll discuss it. Next,
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The story of that Lions fan. Next, she's Monty. I'm Dan.
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Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's why it pays to listen live, m Isaac Low
and Cron. You have the news story the press conference
coming up? When and what are the details on the
Detroit Lions fan that got into it with DK Metcalf.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Friday is going to be a press conference with the
fan and his attornees plural guys putting together his own
version of OJ's dream team. Apparently now I'm going to
read the actual quote do you want me to read
it sarcastically, Dan, or do you want me to read
it straight?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Read it straight if you will.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
Okay, boy, it's going to be tough.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I know, I know. I'm just on the other side
of this. There's a reason though, he'll hold.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
The news conference with attorney's Friday to quote address the assault,
correct misinformation that has been publicly repeated as fact, and
to discuss the serious consequences he has faced unquote.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
So I thought that if you're a fan, my timeline
of this whole story has changed. I went from the
side of the player to the side of the fan.
When Moore ended up coming out for it, I thought, immediately,
if you're saying something to a player that has them
respond in a certain way, you're a loser. You were
with me on Sunday with Carrie Rhods, and I said
that during our Sunday show right after the incident happened.
(37:36):
Finding out more about it now in seeing different camera
angles and then seeing the stories that came out from
NFL insiders and from chado Chio Sinko in saying that
the fan had allegedly said improper things using a racial slur,
a derogatory comment about DK Metcalf's mother, none of which
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I believed was true.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like none of it.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And nobody responded in the crowd that way. There were
no other Steelers players that came over and heard that stuff.
You would think that if another Steelers player heard a
fan yell that to DK Metcalf, that they would also respond. Well,
DK was the only one to respond here. So now
you have Ocho Sinko and Shannon Sharp talking about it
(38:21):
on their podcast. You have NFL insiders supporting this case
on what happened that this fan may have had an
alter case with DK Metcalf a year ago, spreading this narrative,
And now we know why the narrative was there. It
was so DK wouldn't lose the forty five million dollars
that was guaranteed on his contract that could have been
voided for a situation like this where he had on
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sportsmanlike conduct. So that's why DK and his people went
to great lengths to tell the story that there was
a racial slur and a derogatory term. So now this guy,
who all we know is a Lions fan with tickets
of the fifty yard line with the blue wig is
deemed a racist in someone who's calling someone's mother means
I would want to defend my name too. I would
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sue them, and I think that's what he's threatening to do.
If somebody wanted to do that and throw my name
in the mud when that was never the case, I
would want something for it. I would make sure that
they knew that I meant business so it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I guess the idea of just a press conference, I'm like,
who's going to really tune into this, Like, let's be real,
go ahead and absolutely handle business the way you want,
because yeah, if people were speaking like that about me
and that is not at all what happen, I would
absolutely be out there defending myself and sue it.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I just think the press conference is kind of silly.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I don't know what DK Metcalf was thinking, but I
also feel like there's no way that nothing happened, like
you're saying, like Metcalf just lost it.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
He lost it because he didn't like to be called
by his real.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Government name, by his real name, Like there's no defending Metcalf, right,
Like if that's really all it was How do you
defend that?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
You can't you really, you absolutely can't.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
All I'm saying all I do feel like there are
in this situation may have I can't defend you. There's
just sometimes where the fan, you know, the customer, is
not always right. I'm not saying this is that situation.
Having a press conference seems a little bit ridiculous, but
by all means, dude, defend yourself because the story did
take a bunch of turns and none of it was true.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
She's Monty, I'm Dan, this is Fox