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Speaker 1 (00:26):
So we crowned a national champion last night. Michigan wins
the national championship and don't actually get a crown, do
they No, but we crown one, which means I could
shift my focus over to Augusta. I'm very excited because
this gets underway tomorrow. Bomani Jones will join us at
about fifteen minutes. Thank you, Iowa, Sam. We needed that,
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we needed another one. Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Izzy.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
When you think of some of the great story tellers
of all time, it's sports media who is second place
to me.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Guy, you got that one, Well done, Well done.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I was gonna say your Finney story, it's just it
sticks in my head for life.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I would say.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The person that is used more like a verb or
and adjective is Tomernaldi.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yes, good guess because Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Always wanting to be the next to tom Ernaldi, or
if I'm going to tom Ernaldi, this thing by making
people cry, that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
This is the best week on the sports calendar for me.
And I don't feel like is he is into it.
I'm not certain tailors into it because he's still focused
on Carolina and who's going to get the coaching job,
even though they gave the coaching job to Mike Maloney already,
Mike Malone, he is praying that that gets reversed somehow.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It seems like.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I'm on board with it. Are you really trying to
book Tyler Hansbrough right now?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Psychod of that? By the way, it is college basketball
player of all time.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Don't correct yourself anymore when you say Maloney's I know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That, right, I know? I know.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So tom Ronaldi, Mikey, I want to play a game
and Dan Byer, if you're close to a microphone, please
come over. I think you will like this, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Mikey A.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Tom Ronaldi was on Stegattson Company a couple of years ago,
right before the Masters, and we had a great discussion
with him about the course, about the tournament, what that
place means to so many you know, kinds of people,
And I am wondering here there are only three options.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Tears, goosebumps, or I don't give a bleep.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, So I'm going to play the sound it's like
six minutes long because Tom Ronaldi, like myself, is a
great storyteller, and he takes a minute to tell this story,
but it is worth it. And so I am asking
you Taylor, tears, goosebumps, or I don't give a bleep.
I don't want Taylor's answer. I want mikey A's prediction.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Taylor, I had a hard time placing him.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
I'm going to give him I don't.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
Give a bleep?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Okay. How about is he goosebumps? Definite goosebumps? All right?
How just because you like storytelling?
Speaker 8 (03:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Good storytelling? Yeah, he's going to appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
You the big j of the journalism of it all?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Okay, born out Ricardo, What do you think he doesn't
mention baseball?
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I'm gonna say he doesn't give a Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
How about Iowa Sam? Iowa Sam is.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Going to be uh not goosebumps?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay, not listening right, doesn't care ep? Jason is he here?
He's not here, okay, so we don't care about him today.
And how about Dan Bayer because I hand Buyer's full
on tears, weeping, Yes.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Yes, weeping.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's a special place, it's a special week, it's a
special tournament. And here is just one example of why.
This is me with Tom Arnaldi a couple of years ago.
Speaker 9 (03:57):
But a weird game for ten million dollars, Tom, this
is such an odd game, but I have to ask it.
It's you, it's Scott van Pelt, and of course it's
jim nantz Okay. Ten million dollars goes to the person
with the coolest story involving Augusta.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Tom Ronaldi is pulling out what story?
Speaker 10 (04:16):
So I had a chance to play Augusta National a
few times?
Speaker 8 (04:22):
Oh god, but the last time.
Speaker 10 (04:24):
I played, I was invited by a member. He had
invited me and two others. We had the date, we
were going to come in, stay at the cabin overnight.
We were going to play the afternoon before, have dinner,
get up the next morning, play again and leave. The
member is just a wonderful, wonderful guy. And a week
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before stude, the member calls me and says one of
the other members of the foursome can't make it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
You can bring anyone you want.
Speaker 10 (05:03):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
So I called my brother.
Speaker 10 (05:08):
And he could not get out of a work obligation.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
My brother works for the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 10 (05:15):
And he had this he had to go to Washington
and he could not get out of it. The person
I called Stu is a great friend of mine, Kevin,
who I've known for more than twenty five years at
that point, without getting into all the details, he he'd
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suffered a terrible, terrible loss. He'd lost an infant child,
and he loves golf, he loves the Masters. And I
called the member and I said to the member, this
is the person that I'm that I'm I'd like to invite,
but I want you to know why, because he's been
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through the most difficult thing any person can go through,
and he's found a way to continue to keep his
family together, to be a great father to his other children,
to be a great husband.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
He's shown so much heart through so much pain.
Speaker 10 (06:27):
And we're playing and there's a moment to where Kevin
is out walking in front of myself.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
And the member on eleven and he's just.
Speaker 10 (06:43):
Sort of strolling and looking around, he's distanced from the caddy.
He's just walking down eleven fair Way by himself. And
the member who I guarantee has taken dozens and dozens
and dozens of people in to the gates down Magnolia
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Lane to stay in a cabin, to share this magical
place and experience, you would think he had never done
it before. And he stopped me, and he put his
hand on my shoulder and he gestured toward my friend
out fifty sixty yards in front of us, and he
said quietly, that's augusta.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
God. And I choked.
Speaker 10 (07:35):
Up, like I can't even tell you about what that
meant to me. That the member who's such a wonderful,
wonderful guy, had the generosity of heart and spirit, had
the perspectives ste he's been a member there for a
long time. Again, he shared this experience with so many people.
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But the fact that he gave me this additional opportunity.
This was the person I chose, And it meant that
much to him, not to me, to him that he
would stop me and say, look at that, look at
what he's feeling, look at how he's appreciating it, look
at whatever he's thinking through remembering feeling.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
That's Augusta, that's why you come here.
Speaker 10 (08:26):
And to me to the day I die, I will
never ever forget that moment with that member and my
friend out in.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Front of us, and the member.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm certain Tom is saying, hey, just leave him alone,
let him enjoy the moment, let him take it all in, right,
That's what.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He was there, just peace.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
He just said, I want you to just hang back
for a minute. Jesus, just look at him. Look at him.
Speaker 10 (08:55):
What he's what he's experiencing right now, that's the gift
to this place, right. And you know, did my friend
play particularly well? No?
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Did it matter to the member zero.
Speaker 10 (09:11):
The only thing that mattered to that member was that
this man had gone through terrible loss and this day,
this drive down Magnolia Lane, staying in the cabin, having dinner,
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getting up the next morning, all of it. He knew
we are going to give this man a gift of
a day. He deserves it.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
I don't even know him. He's a friend of yours,
you're a friend.
Speaker 10 (09:47):
Of mine, And this place is in some small way
for this period of time, Stude going to let him heal,
going to let his heart heal, and I'll tell you.
My friend talks to me about that thirty hours, right,
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multiple times a year, multiple times a year.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Love it.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
I have a story. That's my story about Augusta.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
You won the ten million dollars the second you open
your mouth, right.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The second and the second you open your mouth, you
wont the ten million dollars. A gay, all right, Taylor,
So let's get your real answer here.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Tears because I was crying. Wait wait, wait, wait, and
I was there for it.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Is crying.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Laughing also an option, not because I'm insensitive, but I'll
explain later.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yes, I don't care how you cry. I mean you
can cry because you're laughing at me. You can cry
because it was an emotional story told by one of
the great storytellers second place to me in the history
of sports media.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Dude could spin a yard.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I mean, he's so good, it's unbelievable. Oh my god,
is he good? Taylor tears, goose bumps or I don't
give a bleep.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
So I was on the fence until we got this
one more time, Ricardo.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
That's Augusta.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah the pause, Yeah, let me hear it one more
time so I can cry.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
That's a gusta.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Okay, and I know what you're trying to do. So
you're trying to pigeonhole me to say something bad about
Tom or Nole. I dare you You want me to
say that he only has one note and he's gonna
tell that same exact story. Yeah, forty different ways.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
I would never. I would never even consider it. That
thought never even crossed my mind.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
All right, So goosebumps, Yeah, goosebumps, bumps. Hold on a second,
let's go to boardot Ricardo. I have a feeling he
didn't give a bleep.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I'm watching part in the mess right now.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I got you pegged, Ricardo.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Let's go to Iowa Sam. I'm pretty certain he's also
watching Paralta.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Go ahead, Iowa Sam. Well, I'm looking at my arms.
I see a few small little I guess they'd be goosebumps.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
So that's Augusta baby goosebumps.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's a gust all right. That means you're alive.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'm alive.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
That's for the people in the back. Yes, I'm gonna
go to Dan.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Last year, Israel Gutierrez was laughing, he was snorting, he
was disrespecting Tom Rinaldi and.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's a storyteller. I mean, it's unbelievable, all right.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So my first reaction, literally when I heard Ronaldi's voice,
immediate goosebumps before the stage, Just like that, they just
appeared on my arms with a sound that sumps's.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's what happens when you get goosebumps.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yet and then they immediately just hid under my skin.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Once he said that's Augusta, because it wasn't even a
Ronaldi thing. It was this member is a little full
of himself. And the course, okay, like the man lost
a child, I'm pretty sure he would have been emotional,
and regardless of the setting, this just happens to be
a very pretty one in which he gets to play golf.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's the powers of Augusta. Are you listening to Tom's like.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The warners of Lake Minnetonka, Augusta.
Speaker 8 (13:06):
That's Augusta, thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And then what brought out the tears was when I
was crying laughing at your.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Reactions while I was crying, Well, if.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
You would have just cut out everything else and just
put Stu Gotts's noises in there, they're the number of
things you could have been doing, and it's not always
listening to Tom Ronaldy talk about golf in Magnolia Lane.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So I got ab in.
Speaker 11 (13:32):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
My answer is I felt all the things except for
the item Giva believe I did not feel that whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But you felt the full range of emotion there, including laughter.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well done, well worth the six minutes I have, go ahead, Taylor.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Some people might say that the only thing they felt
was that six and a half minutes probably could have
been two and a half minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But it could have been not me, and again not me.
I don't think it. It's a dangerous game. It's Tom Rinaldi. Okay,
he's a legend. I had Dan Byer crying weeping because
he loves golf, and I think he's the only person
who loves this week the way I love this week
who's associated with this show. Dan, what were your emotions
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during that?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I was cutting onions.
Speaker 12 (14:14):
Yes, yes, because it's the child portion of it as well,
like that Tiede like just that part gets me. I
feel for anybody that had to go through that. But
also if you love this tournament as much as Stu
and I do, and I think Stu, I assume you've
been there. We haven't had conversations. I've been fortunate enough
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to be there a few times myself. But everyone knows
the course. So when you talk about walking up eleven Fairway,
you know exactly where he is. In eleven Fairway is
the start of Amen Corner. And for as much as
if you love the Masters, you can name one, two,
all the way through eighteen. But there is something special
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about getting to a men corner. And I remember the
first time I was ever there. You walk in on
the property, You're like, oh, there's one, You're oh, there's nine, green, eighteen,
the whole deal. When you get to Amen Corner, it
is absolutely different. And I can't imagine what it's like
without a soul around except you know, you and your
playing partners. Yeah, just the magical story and then you
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add Ronaldi telling the story.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, when you go there, it sucks your right down
to Amen Corner. You're forced to just walk down there
and sure it's real.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yes, Hey man Thompson Corner.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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on this Tuesday, April seventh. We start out in golf.
Rory mcroy's, the defending champion at the Masters. Tonight gets
to take part in his first Champion's Dinner. Rory also
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reflecting today on what it's been like to have the
green jacket for the past twelve months.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
I believe it it was twelve months ago that I
was setting here and sort of trying to take it
all in. To be able to come back and do
this press conference in a green jacket, that feels pretty good.
But yeah, look, it's been an amazing twelve months. You're
bringing this thing all around the world.
Speaker 12 (17:13):
Rory's going to be teeing off on Thursday and first
round play at ten thirty one Eastern time. He's going
to be playing in the same group as players champion
Cameron Young, an eighteen year old US amateur champion Mason
Howell as for Scottie Scheffler, the world number one, will
play with Robert McIntyre and Gary Woodland and start Thursday
at one forty four Eastern time. Guardians walked off the
Royals today two to one, while the White Sox are
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up on the Orioles two nothing. In the fourth inning,
scoreless between the Mets and Diamondbacks. Is there underway and
Queen's at the bottom of the first inning. North Carolina
is giving new Met's basketball coach Michael Malona six year
deal worth eight point three million dollars annually. That's, according
to Espano, would put him second behind only Bill Self
for the highest annual salary in college hoops. Louisville freshman
guard Mikel Brown junior entering the NBA Draft as a
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potential lottery pick, and Fernandoman Dooz are going to stay
in Miami and not attend the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh.
Stu back to you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Bomani Jones is with us here on Stugatson Company. Check
out his podcast The Right Time with Bomani Jones wherever
you get your podcast, before we get to the championship game,
before we get to Carolina basketball, before we help Tailor
out here, because.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He is uh well, he's all kinds of upset.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
To the idea of Mike Malone being the next head
coach at Carolina. Bamani, are you a bench below the
court or a bench at court level type of guy, like,
which way do you like it?
Speaker 10 (18:34):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
I hate the elevated court.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I can't stand it.
Speaker 13 (18:37):
I can't stand it. I can't stand it. It makes
everything look.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Ridiculous, Like who asks for this?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't like.
Speaker 13 (18:43):
I think no one's made a compelling case for me
for the elevated court. I'm also just generally an opponent
of basketball in domes. But I understand the capitalism is
going to win on that one. But the elevated court.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
I don't. I don't like you.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I'm with you. I feel like someone's gonna get hurt.
It's dangerous, you know, Yes.
Speaker 13 (18:59):
Yeah, And that's what they don't get is that just
because you say nobody's going to get hurt doesn't change
the fact that it feels that way, and that is
not a comfortable viewing experience.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yes, if you put a future prop be in on
Mike Malone being the next head coach at North Carolina
at a billion to one, congratulations to you.
Speaker 13 (19:16):
I don't understand. It's not even that I don't understand it.
Let's put a pin in the understanding part. My question
was simply, whose idea this was because you like, when
you have an idea that nobody else has, chances are
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it's either the best idea or the worst idea that
you've ever had when you're the only person who cooked
this up. And I feel like whoever cooked this idea
up was the only person who had this idea, right But.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
I can't say that it's a bad idea.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
I just never would have thought of that, right Yeah,
So you know, I like if I see the people
who are down on the higher but I don't think
they have a compelling argument for being so down on
it other than I didn't. I never would have thought
of this right now. If the argument is, well, he's
an NBA coach, and how well can an NBA coach
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do in college? Okay, maybe that's fair, but we're taking
a guy that I believe was an excellent NBA coach
and his biggest problem as an NBA coach is he
rode dudes a little bit too hard, which is something
that you typically can get away with in college. And
you can, on one hand make the argument that well,
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with the transfer portal, you can only do this with
so much. But the counterpoint is Mike Malowe's the guy
that had the great relationship with DeMarcus Cousins at a
time where no coach could figure out how to make
that worker. He seemed to be completely incorrigible. So there's
a world in which this works out very well. I
don't know who staff is going to be. I do
know that the head coach of NCAA basketball program doesn't
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have to recruit anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Like that part doesn't really matter. So if you're.
Speaker 13 (21:08):
Asking me, can somebody go get five, seven, eight guys
and give him to Mike Malone and can Mike Malone
make a good basketball team?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I'm going to assume that he can.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yes, Bo Money, What would you say to the people
who are saying that everything that is a pro for
Mike Malone Michael Malone, Sorry, they were also saying those
pros for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Taylor's one of those guys, So just say, you know, yeah,
this is a here's a major difference.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Though.
Speaker 13 (21:35):
The last team I saw Michael Malone coach was good.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Yeah in the NBA.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Yea.
Speaker 13 (21:40):
The last team I saw Bill Belichick coach in the
NFL was terrible. Like the problems with Bill Belichick seem
to be very clearly Bill Belichick problems, Like, I don't
think it's fair to extrapolate too much there. Also, Michael
Malone is twenty years younger than him. I don't think
that part is a small detail in.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The course of this.
Speaker 13 (21:59):
And Belichick's had this problem with the Patriots and he
seemed to continue this problem with the with UNC which.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Is, why do you keep getting these guys.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Nobody else wants?
Speaker 13 (22:10):
Right, Like why do you think that you can make
an acc team out of players from the MAC? I
don't understand, Like, like, why are you doing that? He
was Basically he had a bit of a track record
for doing the same thing with the Patriots also, But
I have no reason to think that Mike Malone Mike Malone,
Michael Malone is not is no longer the coach at
the of the different Nuggets, but not because he got
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bad at his job. Right, That to me is the
biggest difference between the two of those games. Like, I
think that's a I understand why people say that, but
I think that's a lazy argument. Like if some other
school had hired Michael Malone, the response would not be, well,
look at what happened with Bill Belichick, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
What I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Like they're not.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
The only thing they have in common really is that
they're both there North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yes, uh, you know this program.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
There is not a person I know that knows North Carolina,
the basketball program, the history of the program, what it
means to the people in Chapel Hill better than you, Bamani.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So I think what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
This is just so jarring because for the first time,
Carolina went outside the family, and that's not something people
are accustomed to in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
I mean, guys, it's the first coaching search that they've
had in seventy years.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Michael Legitimate.
Speaker 13 (23:23):
I guess you could make an argument that when they
hired Dean Smith in nineteen sixty one that there was
some measure of search, but even that, as I recall,
was an internal hire.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Yes, they haven't had.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
A coaching search in seventy something years. There was literally
no telling who would wind up getting this job because
there seem to be no candidates available from as they
like to say it, within the family. I mean, the
most qualified person to hire from within the family was
Hubert Davis. Yes, he's been to a Final Four, he's
been to Sweet sixteen, he's done not a terrible job
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at recruiting, like he was the guy that had the
best resume for they set Wes Miller out hoping one
day and maybe he'd be the guy. Nope, he got
fired at Cincinnati. There was nowhere else to go. So
then once that happened, it was like, Oh, it could
be anybody. I thought it would wind up being Billy Donovan's.
I understand the argument that if you feel like you
can't wait for Billy Donovant, I think what seems to
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be more likely is that Billy Donovant has outlasted everybody
else in Chicago and he will get kicked upstairs, and
he would rather do that job than to coach college basketball,
Which I mean, I could totally get this. The other
names that you would think of going to get, you
could get guys that would be okay, but it was
going to be nobody that would really excite you.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
But the truth is, if this job is.
Speaker 13 (24:39):
What I think it is, and I think what I
would turn of, most reasonable people believe that it is.
You don't need a great coach to do a very
good job at this school.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, what do you believe, Yeah, you don't know, But
what do you believe? This job to be you still
believe it to be one of the premier jobs.
Speaker 13 (24:55):
Right I if they can get them money right and
get some alignment going with the people who make decisions.
And I'm not nearly as tapped in on these things
as I once was, but neither of those things seems.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
To truly be the case. Right.
Speaker 13 (25:10):
Yes, but if they can get that right, it's still
North Carolina, right they still have the institutional commitment to
being good at basketball. I don't know how much of
the stuff that used to matter in terms of recruiting
continues to matter now, But I don't think you have
a compelling argument for there somehow being jobs that are
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better than this one to have, unless somebody's trying to
make the point now that all the jobs are the same,
which I'm not far enough down the road yet. To
get to that place is to get to the place
of saying that I know that in my life and
nil and all this has changed everything, but I know
that in my life anytime there's been these big time programs,
whether it be a football or basketball, with the exception
of Indiana basketball, and they start telling you, oh.
Speaker 14 (25:52):
Man, it's not like it used to be. Oh Man,
Oklahoma's not a big deal anymore like that. Oh man,
usc doesn't matter like that, Hey, Iole State, you really
think it's gonna be the No, they all been, They
all been the same.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, But Taylor's upset because he feels like Iowa and
Iowa State turned down this job. Were you surprised by
the amount of people who turned down this job?
Speaker 13 (26:13):
Let's find out how many of them actually trying, you
know what I mean? Like, a great way to make
yourself look good is to pull your name out of contention.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
For a job that you may not have. Like, actually, hand,
I'm just.
Speaker 13 (26:29):
Saying this, and I know that maybe somebody really gets
charged up about working.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
In the Midwest or anything else.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
But if you say you got offered the North Carolina
job and you stayed at Iowa, that is the definition
of weird flex But okay, like that, that does not
impress me about you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Tommy Lloyd.
Speaker 13 (26:47):
Not leaving Arizona is in line with historical precedent. Yes,
Like Arizona is not a job that people typically leave
to go do something better that's not there. I think
Dan Walkin put it like this, If you got a
top twenty job, you typically don't leave before a top
five job.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Correct, there was a time where Arizona was really good.
Loud Olson would not have left Arizona to go to North.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Carolina, right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
would not have it.
Speaker 13 (27:11):
And look, it's wild to look back and think Arizona
hasn't been to a Final four before this year. They
hadn't been one in twenty five years. That was kind
of a wild thing. But like you got a job
where you could make some hey, you go ahead and
do it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
There's a pretty clear.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Ceiling on how good you could be at Iowa.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
I think one would say if you would not leave
that to go to North Carolina, I don't think that
speaks to the job at North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Bou MANI, When Michael Malone takes this job, do you
think he's taking it with the thought that he's going
to be the North Carolina coach until he retires or
is he taking this job thinking best case scenario. I'm
back at the NBA in a couple of years, my
pick of my pick A team.
Speaker 13 (27:49):
I have questions about what teams wanted to hire him, Yeah,
whether that was an option. I know he has daughters
who are at Carolina which I am sure made this
job much more attractive for him because he's probably spent
a lot of this year. You probably spend more time
around him daughters than he has like ever before in
his life, like when they get out of school. Maybe
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it's a different sort of question. He's just like, everybody's
going to see how everybody feels about each other when
they do this job. I'd like if he only stays
five years, which is totally on the board. It may
be because everybody is tired of everybody after five years,
but you might win a championship in the course of
those five years, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Like that's on the board. I don't I find it.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
Unlikely that he's just like, oh, I'm doing this to
parlay this into an NBA job.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That would be a weird.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
Tactic if that's what he was going to do, because
I don't think he needed to go coach at North
Carolina in order to get himself an NBA job.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
If an NBA job was there for him to get.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
How about if you're one of his daughters, you don't
want dad roaming around campus.
Speaker 13 (28:47):
I mean, geez, on one level, yes, you are correct,
I personally would not but let me tell you somewhere
Michael Malone will not want to be very much, if
at all, which is roaming around on the campus as
the head coach of the basketball team. I can't imagine
anything more stressful than if Mike Malone just decides to
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go to Lenore Hall to get some Chick fil A
and then go hang out in the pit before buying
souvenirs at the bookstore.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Now, who wins the title first, Michael Malone or John Shire?
I mean, I don't really people are starting to look
at shy are funny man?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
They are?
Speaker 7 (29:33):
They are?
Speaker 10 (29:33):
They are.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
I don't like to predict my own misery.
Speaker 13 (29:35):
Like if there's if there's a benevolent god, it's Michael
Malone and it's like four times before John Shire ever
gets one.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yea if Michael Malone.
Speaker 13 (29:45):
What I would love about this is if somewhere in
this Michael Malone decides he doesn't like John Shire because
he is not the type of person to hide the
fact that he doesn't like somebody like this. I do
think that it's worth noting this is the first time
since already the Carolina's had a coach that has like
he was a bit confrontational. Roy wasn't really confrontational. Michael
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Malone is can it's confrontational. I mean like I'd love
to see him really lean in on the beef, like
I feel like in the NBA you don't really get
to just actively dislike people.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Like you're allowed to do in college.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Taylor, by the way, is uh, he's seeing movies from
my childhood. He just saw my cousin Vinnie. He put
it in his top ten, and he thinks Field. He
thinks Field of Dreams is overrated. I mean, how about
that over here? I mean, I'm inclined to agree on Field.
Jesus christ Man, you would tell her kindred spirits today?
Speaker 13 (30:39):
I mean yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Like my daddy didn't die, you know what I mean.
It's not really relatable content, you know, in that kind
of thing. But Field the Dreams, Like my father is
eighty nine years old, right, call me back in ten
years Field Dreams, it would be like it never had before.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But in the meantime, I just.
Speaker 13 (31:04):
Not, really, it's not really relatable content, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I mean the speech that mean no It's okay. The
speech didn't get you though. I mean, come on, James
Earl Jones, what I can't speak close.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
Close close, Like I said, maybe maybe I need to
go through some more things before I'm able to you know,
they love Sauls. They be something different now that I
have lose some life, You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
We'll get you out of here on this. Where do
you stand on on Danny Hurley? Is that a guy
who's annoying to you? Do you like him?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Where are you with Hurley? Because he kind of annoys me.
Speaker 13 (31:38):
I find him annoying, and I like the fact that
I find him annoying. Same, Yes, it is the same
space that I'm in with like Kim Mulky. We need
some people out here that make you feel like something, right,
Like the worst thing to Makesrszewsky ever did the basketball
was to usher in the era of the CEO coach.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
It's kind of him and pat Riley.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
But it became a thing that the coach presents.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Himself like a businessman.
Speaker 14 (31:59):
Right.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
There's supposed to be some coaches out here that I
like and dislike more than others. That's what it's supposed
to be. And Danny Hurley. It's on full display, like
he's a heel, you know what I mean, Like the
game needs heels. He is a heel and seems to
recognize that he's a heel. Yes, and so yeah, no, no, no,
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I'm but he I he ain't. He ain't my type.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But he's good for college basketball.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Yes, he's great for the game. He's absolutely great for
the game, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
It's kind of like how the Batman needs the Joker.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Here we go, there we go, but we ain't.
Speaker 13 (32:34):
He really got no Batman, no more like that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Who was Batman? It was coachk I mean, oh no, no,
I think.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Oh Roy's tricky.
Speaker 13 (32:46):
I guess tom Izzo kind of gets to he's the
He's the og.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
You're now right, he's the dean of all of this.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, people forget is still coaching? Still doing it? Man?
Speaker 13 (32:55):
Yeah, still out there? Man, he was Okay. I don't
know his wife. I don't want to say that. I
would not still be at work if I was Hilm.
If I wanted to go home.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Patino's still out there.
Speaker 13 (33:05):
I mean yeaheah, buddy, I mean I expect she doesn't
want him at home.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I suspect he wants him to die on that bench.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I suspect your rights right time with Bamani Jones anywhere
you get your podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He is the best.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
He's the best doing it man, Bamani. We appreciate it.
Thank you for the time. I'm upset that you and
Taylor agreed on so many things.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
This is my brother. I appreciate you. I thought you
guys so.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
All right, man, thank you.
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missed a little bit of the show a second ago, didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
We did.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I have to apologize to Dan Bayer. We were supposed
to toss it to him for an update.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
We forgot.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I was crying in the hallway in is he's arms
after the tom or knowlgy story?
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Is that why we're playing? Ein't nobody because ain't nobody
there when we came back from break.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Now, Dan, we apologize. We're not professional. You are. I
was crying and he was consoling me.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's a good cry though.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Dan Byer is like the quarterbacker throws it up in
the air and goes and catches his own pass.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, he's that professional.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Josh Allen double fantasy points. Right.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
There was a softball game last night. We'll get to
that in just a second. Eryl Siegel is a gentleman
that we brought up yesterday on the show, an eighty
one year old Dodger fan. I think he's eighty one.
He wants his tickets printed. He does not want them
sent digitally. He does not want to use his flip phone.
He can't find the tickets, he can't access the tickets.
This man is eighty one and he simply wants his
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tickets printed out.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
You're saying there's an update, Well, there is an update.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I have a guest on who is ready to get
behind old Eryl Siegel and try to help him out.
And he's going to join us tomorrow, and that is
Carl Douglas. Famed attorney Carl Douglas, who was also a
celebrity Dodger fan. Mikey A knows him very very well.
He wants to help mister siegeal out and he says
there might be a lawsuit. He's not certain yet.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
I don't have to tell me about Carl Douglas. George
Sadana and I were the first people to get Carl
Douglas on the air regularly when they had that OJ
show on I think it was FX, and we would
constantly have him on every week, and then everybody stole
our idea, including you guys.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes, he was a member of the Dream Team, not
the basketball team. OJ's defense team, along with f Lee
Bailey and I can't remember Johnny Cochrane.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Well, how do I remember this?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Because it was the biggest story of my life, Trial
of the century, that's why.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So Carl Douglas, who loves the Dodgers, is going to
join us tomorrow, and it'd be great if we can
get Eryl Siegel on with Carl Douglas. Taylor asked me,
how would you go about getting Eryl seagull on? He
asked me and Mikey a earlier, and I said, the
yellow pages or the white pages, And He's like, what
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And I go listen. When you're Eryl Siegel, you demand
to be in the phone book.
Speaker 10 (36:20):
You do.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you're left out, your outraged. So, Taylor, I think
my gia sent a number. Have you reached out to
mister Siegel yet?
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
I haven't heard back.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
It might take a minute. He might send you a letter.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Right, was there a voicemail? I mean anything, No, just
kept ringing.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
He's probably still looking thir his bone. I hear it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
He doesn't even have a tape answering machine.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yes, So I told Carl to round up all the
Dodger celebrity fans. Him and Pat say Jack, and I said,
let's go. Let's get these guys is tickets printed, because
that's the way you want them, and you should have it.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He should have it his way. He's the customer. I mean,
how about that.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
By the way, since I said Otani was overrated, he
has hit seventy home runs.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
That's all right, since I said the Atlanta Hawks were
on a what did I call it? I said, the
emptiest nine game winning streak in NBA history. Yeah, I
think I've only lost one or twice since then.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So, Taylor, tell me about the softball game last night.
You and Izzy, you are on a softball team together.
Is he doesn't want to be there. You also participate
in a flag football league together. You don't want to
be there? And so tell me how the softball game
went last night? You're winless?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, so roommate Ian has kind of been the star
of this team, or the the person that people want
to hear about the most. Yes, and just the reminder
he's Jewish. But he wore a Dominican Republic hat to
the first game.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
How could I forget?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
It's very odd he showed up to the game yesterday,
no Dominican Republic hat. He had a Miami Open hat on.
And when I asked him, no DR hat, he said,
I have to earn it.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I thought, you're gonna say he has to burn it,
because I would have burned that hat after that performance.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Wait, so Ian was the guy who he committed like
six errors in the first game in left field and
then we switched him to centerfield, and then the ball
found him in centerfield.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Yesterday we moved him to first base and he looked
like a gold glover at first base. Really, so we
shuffled around some positions. Now we still lost the game.
We lost by five and five innings. We didn't get
run rulled. We were up one through three innings. Wow,
we lost the games due in the fourth inning. A
week part of our lineup came up. They went one, two, three,
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They struck out the side, They struck out slow, pitched
off all.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
The first time. That's never happened.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I mean, I just want to add I was none
of those three people who's struck out.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well, hold on, we'll get to you. How did it
is he play? Taylor? Tell us? Tell us about is
he is not?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Because he said yesterday he's never gotten a hit and
he's never slid into a base, So what happened?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
So is he no?
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Showed what?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
And some people sides?
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Some people is he are pointing out the way that
we played so much better, coinciding with the fact that
you didn't show up. And there's some dots being connected
a lot, because yesterday, if this was a movie, this
was when the bad news bears start to get a
little good. That's where we're at right now on the plot.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I don't want to take too much credit, but yes,
as I was preparing for the day, I'm looking at
the list of people who are going to show, and
I'm doing the math, and I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
The eleventh person, right, we only need ten? Right, they
don't need me?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Well, why would they need somebody who has never gotten
a hit in his life into attempts? Why would they
need somebody who has never slid into anything in his life?
Speaker 5 (39:35):
So I was like, you know what, my tummy's feeling
a little off right here.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I'm gonna go ahead and take the day off. Anthony,
You go ahead win one for me.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I know you're oh for two, but you're also one
hit away from being a Hall of Fame, which is.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Why I'm picking my spots.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I can't go ahead and when I'm not feeling great
and then potentially go for three and then ruin my
career average.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
So you've played six innings in this whole thing, and
is he's been apps for five of them.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's a good point.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
We've probably played nine innings and is he's been absent.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
For for six of them.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
You're welcome.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
We also have the kids to who only hits home runs.
He's hit like six home runs in two games. Yesterday,
after he went two for two with two home runs,
they intentionally walked him in this office.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Get that done.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
He's that lethal bus. So are you saying that your
team is better without is he?
Speaker 6 (40:26):
I I'm not saying that other people are