May 15, 2019 • 29 mins
Doug thinks people are crazy for suggesting Zion Williamson would refuse to play for the Pelicans after they landed the number 1 overall pick in the NBA draft. He also tells you why tanking in the NBA isn't going anywhere even though some of the worst teams missed out on the top picks this year. Plus, Doug talks to NBA Insider Frank Isola about the Knicks' future after missing out on Zion Williamson and the number 1 overall pick.
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the New Orleans Pelicans like Zion Williamson. What a bummer
night in the NBA. What a bummer night? And look
New Orleans. If you want to meet tell you I
feel for you. I do I do um. You're a
city that has produced basketball players, an area the country
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that produces basketball players. You got cool music, You've got
good food, you got a cool vibe right, like, there's
you kind of you got your own language. There's a
lot of cool things in New Orleans, but Zion Williamson
might as well be playing on the moon if you're
the NBA and he would go to New Orleans, I
will grant you He's got a better personality today than
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Anthony Davis has had at any other point time in
his career. But Anthy Davis is a great player, and
no one's yearned to watch him play. And some of
that is the fact that they haven't won, and some
of that is market size, and some of that is Look,
I know that you guys were where I was just
I was. I was just working out and I was
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getting ready to leave, and I walked into a conversation
without you know, the n C double A. They're so corrupt,
that's what this guy said. They are so corrupt. And
I was like, really, huh, He's like, look at Zion Williamson.
I was like, all right, let's look at Zion Wimson.
Howd he not gone to college? He would have gone
to the G League. Um, there were questions about how
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hard he work, how hard he played, Plus he being
an eighteen year old kid playing with grown men, and
not only to improve his athleticism and his game at
Duke playing against like aged players, but he his you know,
Duke promoted him. You know, playing for Duke is a
big thing. Thirty one times they were on national TV
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this year. Many times the Pelicans were on National TV seven.
How many times would he have been watched to us
in the G League? The answer is maybe once or zero? Right, Like,
he benefited greatly from the brand. And in addition to
being kind of off the NBA's radar map with the Pelicans,
and the Pelicans are in the West, but they're not
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in the West. New Orleans hasn't been the West since
well the Louisiana purchase. Really right like, that was the
last time they were in the western United States. So
in addition to that, no one even knows, like the
Pelicans are not a name brand because they haven't been
a brand long enough. Wait are they? The Hornets know,
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there's no more Hornets. The Hornets are now in Charlotte,
back in Charlotte where they started. You know, you might
know it because it's a clever nickname or clever only
it's it's a different nickname. But there's no the brand
has not been built up, so it's fascinating to see
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what's Because Zion could could pull his name out of
the draft, go back to college, pull his name out
of draft, train all year. He could do the Eli
Manning and force a trade without telling anybody's forcing the trade,
but just because maybe those things should happen for his brand.
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The likelihood is that Zion Williamson tries to become, you know,
the Russell Westbrook to Oklahoma City, the what Lebron was
to Cleveland before it became before he left. You know,
pick star player in small market and raise that thing
to prominence. Should he what he should do and what
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he will do? Like that's it. By the way, it
be off brand for him to do anything other than
show up and want to play basketball. But branding is
so powerful and so important. It's just very very interesting
to see how this plays out. Last night was one
of those nights where you look around the NBA You're like, look,
I don't know if David Stern did in fact rigg
rig the lottery so that Patrick Ewing could go to
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New York or Lebron James would end up in Cleveland.
But I'm not your Adam silver. Shouldn't What a tough night.
Then the Western Conference Finals were just Portland's bad matchup.
Don't have Nurkics dead on their feet because of fatigue,
because they played Sunday the Golden State Warriors, playing without
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two of their five starters, and it was fairly competitive,
modestly competitive most of the way. Nothing special about those
games at all. What a snooze fest. What what could
have been a celebration of the rebirth of the New
York Knicks, or of the l A Lakers, or of
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the Chicago Bulls. Instead, when you just kind of let
it play out, which is I don't believe it is
rigged or however, hasn't necessarily been rigged, but if there's
a special case where it should have been, yeah, that
should have been. People think that markets eyes doesn't matter.
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It absolutely does. It just does. The Knicks haven't really
been relevant for most of the past twenty years, yet
everybody's talking about the Knicks. Heck, the Jets. The Jets
went to two XC championship games. People talk a town
about them, and they're the second team in New York City.
I mean they fired their general manager Mike mccagnet earlier today.
Why because it's New York, more people live there, more
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eyes watched TV sets there, listening to radio shows there,
and of course they're spread throughout the country. No one
on earth has ever grown up a Pelicans fan who's
forty years old. It's it's impossible. One. The Pelicans didn't
exist into you know, the Hornets didn't exist there until
what was it twenty years ago? But what he does?
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What I mean like, there's no real other term for
it other than disaster. I mean, it's it's just crazy
crazy that the Pelikins are sitting there with the number
one pick and now they have Anthony Davis and Anthony
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Davis again. And if you think market size doesn't matter,
and I would agree that some of it is management
and the general mismanagement, but you have a general manager
who's been in charge of Lebron James and the Cleveland
Cavaliers and helped get them to the NBA finals. Remember
they had the number one overall pick right before they
acquired Lebron James and they end up in the finals.
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His obviously all four years, but he got fired before
his his last year there, so three consecutive years in
Cleveland and despite that Anthony Davis still wants out. He's like, oh,
Drew Holiday, Zion Williamson, Anthony Davis, what do you think,
big fella? I want out? Why because when no one
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wants to admit and you can't ask a coach or
a general manager or a player because they're all gonna say,
oh man, it's a great city. I love living there,
and I mean, like, look, Crescent City is pretty cool place.
Are there some dangerous parts? Hell yeah, um, but it's
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there are worse places on earth to be a multimillionaire. Act.
There are worse places in the NBA to be a multimillionaire.
Great places to live, cool vibe, you know. Besides, you
just there to play basketball, show up with facility, go
to the arena, go back home to your apartment like
this is not But Anthony Davis has had enough. So
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if you think that branding and market size don't matter,
just look at what happened last night in the NBA
and what will happen tonight, and the ratings will be
ridiculously low. In spite of the fact that these are
the two best teams in the Eastern Conference, the Bucks
have earned their right to call themselves the best team
in the Eastern Conference based upon their success and every
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statistical measure, and the Toronto Raptors are in their right
to finally get to the Eastern Conference Finals again with
a game winning shot over a talented seventies sixers team
in seven games, like they have earned, both of them
earned a way to be here. But you know, everyone
people want to talk about but recent success like, no,
it doesn't market size doesn't matter, name brand does matter.
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I didn't create the rules. I'm just telling you how
it plays out. Be sure to catch live editions. So
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M NBA Radio Monday through Friday, seven am. Frank, Uh,
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what was your reaction to Zion going to or if
he goes, he goes to New Orleans? Yeah, it was
a little shocking, Doug. I think when going into the lottery,
I think even though the odds were for the Knicks,
the Cabs and the Suns, maybe just because of the
older lotteries, we all thought, well, you know what, the
favorites will somehow end up with these top picks, and
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early on you said the Lakers move up in the
Memphis and then of course it was the New Orleans
Pelicans moving up having a six percent chance. That part
was surprising that it was that it ended up being
three of those top four teams. So they had the
Knicks moving down clearly, But how about Cleveland Phoenix and
then a team like the Atlanta Hawks and the Chicago
Bulls they also dropped? Um, what about the Knicks though?
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How much air is let out of the Knicks balloon? Like,
I know, the game plan is still a bringing in
free agents, but you know so much it was built
around the hype of potentially bringing in Zion. How much
this changed their offseason? I think you hit on it.
They a lot of this was built around Zion Williams,
and I think the Knicks thought that they had a
really good chance to get him. I think that they figured,
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you know what, seventeen and sixty five, there'll be a reward,
you know, at the end of the rainbow here for us,
and that's not the case. I think it's still got
a good player. You would know better than me. With
you know you followed the college game very closely. There's
gonna be a good player but available for them at three.
Whether or not they get that guy, that's another story.
Johnson uh Kawhi Leonard with the fifteenth old roll pick.
So good players are in the draft, but it's still
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again about free agency, and I just don't know a
lot of people are saying, oh, they could still make
a run at Anthony Davis. I have a hard time
believing that when you look at what the Knicks have
the third overall picking them, what else did they really
have to offer. I guess they have future picks, but
I I think if you're David Griffin, you're thinking, well,
if the Knicks way to get Anthony Davis and there's
a chance that Kevin durantut sign there, it's not like
these future picks are gonna be worth anything in the
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coming years. So I just Knicks don't have established players.
They have a seventeen and sixty five roster, and adding
the fourth overall pick to that, it's I don't know
if is that really that attractive to a team like
New Orleans when you compare it to what the Lakers
can do, and of course, what a team like the
Boston Celtics. Could they have guys that are already more
established and have played in playoff games. Yeah, and you
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don't want to part ways with Kevin Knox, right, I mean,
that's part of He's part of one of the building
blocks of what you want to build around. Um. So
I think they I think for Anthony Davis, I think
they'd give him up. I think they'd give up anything,
you know, just about anything to get Anthony Davis because
I think that would put them in a better position
to get Kevin Durant, possibly Kara Herving. I just don't
know if it's possible at this point. I mean, he
trade three and Kevin Knox and maybe some calf space,
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although I don't know how much calf space helps New Orleans.
But now you give a chance for New Orleans suppress reset.
Although I think the Lakers are gonna offer, you know,
they're young players and the fourth pick for Anthony Davis.
But you know, we don't know if New Orleans wants
to do business with the with the l A Lakers,
and we don't know if that I would think that
David Griffin, you have to be smart in this case.
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If you're gonna trade your best player, you have to
make sure that you get the best deal. And I
understand you don't want to trade him in the conference.
But if that's the case, didn't do it. But you know,
there is a history between David Griffin and the Knicks,
and it's not a great one. The Nicks were gonna
hire David Griffin as the general manager, and as he
was contemplated making the move, they went out and signed
Tim Hardaway's junior to an offer sheet. So Javid Griffin
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was thinking, we'll hang on a second. You guys want
me to run the team, and you already make the
moves without me, And then he was told, well, it's
going to kind of be a dual thing in terms
of running the basketball operation to doing Steve Mills. So
I think that did not go well with David Griffin. Again,
if you could get the best deal from the next
when we do that, I think he would, But just
keep that in mind as they're kind of going through
the whole process. Doug Olive Show on Fox Sport Trader,
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Radio on serious x M, covering the NBA UM one
are the chances that zion, which he can legally do.
He hasn't signed with an agent, and you can even
sign with an agent do this, says, I'm not going
to New Orleans. I'm just not doing it. You know.
It's it's funny with a kid like that. And we
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saw the way that he conducted himself all throughout the
season when he suffered the injury. The idea was, you
know what, he might be better off just shutting it down.
You're gonna be the uborn overall pick with us of
what happens, he goes back and plays place. Well, didn't
make it to a final four, but just the things
that he said after the season, this was the greatest
time in my life. I love playing it, Duke. I
think his image right now is so good and he's
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such a likable guy. I don't know why you would
want to mess with that. You're still in the NBA.
It's I get it. It's not New York. I think
you wanted to go to Atlantic because that's closer to
his home in South Carolina. I just don't think he
would do it. Would I completely rule it out. No.
I think that's a good point. You bring up, but
I don't know. His image is so good. Why would
you want to sully your reputation at this point. I don't.
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I don't think he will, but it is in fact
an option of card that he could he could very
well play. And then you got the Western Conference Finals,
which just I feel like a complete mismatch. I understand
the Portland's tired, but I mean, you tell me the
Warriors without KD, without DeMarcus Cousins, and you know, score
wise it was fairly competitive, but it wasn't really that was.
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It was never really in doubt, never really in doubt. Um.
I mean felt like a downer day, right, it really did.
But I also think what hurt the Western Conference Finals
is that this draft lottery had so much juice to it,
and because of Zion Williams in it, because it was
so unpredictable. It was really one of the crazier draft
lotteries that we've seen in a long time. And you
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had the big player there, so it was, you know,
that should have It's almost like there should have been
the game first and then the draft lottery, as opposed
to the other way around. So that kind of hurts
the game. I think in terms of people watching it,
and then just for the product itself. I think the
quick turnaround, you know, a very emotional Game seven on
the road. It's difficult forty eight hours later to come
out on the road and play a team like the Warriors.
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But I'm surprised. Maybe I shouldn't be, because the Warriors
have this, you know, they have won championships, have that
championship mentality, the toughness about them. I'm surprised at how
well did they played in Game five after Kevin Durant
went down those final four team minutes. I'm thinking, all right,
that's like a one shot deal. Houston will win Game
six and then the Wars will be fighting for their
lives in Game seven. They go down there, and they
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played great in Game six. And look what Steph Curry
has done the last you know, six quarters. He has
scored sixty nine points. I mean, the guy, he's been incredible.
The ball is moving a lot more than it does
when Kevin Durant doesn't play. That's not to say they're
better without Kevin Durant, but they play a different way.
But I think it also you have now we're probably
a greater appreciation for guys like Thompson, Steph Curry and
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Draymond Green, and in a weird way, it's like they've
become not that they were never likable, but I think
when Durant went there that kind of it was just
the rich getting richer. They've become kind of this more
likable almost in a bizarre kind of way, more of
an underdog kind of team. Frank I Shula joining us
in the doug Otlips Show on Fox Sports Radio, and
then you have the Raptor versus the Bucks tonight, which look,
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there's nothing to not like about Janic's nothing, he says
all the right thing. He's improved, he plays for his teammates,
he plays both ends the floor, um, and there's nothing
to not like. Lessarily about Kawhi Leonard. I know he
bailed on the Spurs and he's quiet whatever. They're two
great players, But I just, you know, between Toronto not
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rating and and you know, two kind of nondescript stars
in terms of mainstream America, I just I think the
ratings are gonna be bad, and it's gonna it's gonna
be one of those like, boy, do we still need
Lebron James kind of moment after tonight, that could be
the case. And I do think in the second round
he didn't think about Lebron a lot because the series,
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except for the Milwaukee Boston series, all of them were competitive.
Boston had some drama to it just because of all
the dysfunction of that team. That could be the case.
But I also think there are a lot of people
that want to see something new. But I do think
when you look at what the Warriors did last night,
it's hard now to have faith that Portland can make
it a competitive serious things can change dramatically. They win
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a game to them, they got home court advantage in
the Eastern Conference. You know, you mentioned the two names,
you know, Janice and Hawaii Leonard. They're outstanding players. I mean,
and if people like the sport they are, you're gonna
be drawing in the casual sports fans. Maybe not until
the NBA Finals, but the honest is becoming that big
of a player, and he's incredibly likable. He's a throwback
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kind of player. He's all about his team. He you know,
he puts a lot of time into his craft and
into his body, something that maybe Joel Embiach should start doing.
If he wants to see better results, so it's likable.
I do think you're right though, because of you know
the fact that it is Canada that might have a
little bit to do with it. But I do think
the NBA Finals, assuming the Warriors get there, it will
be a different story. Yeah, I think it will be.
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You know, the Warriors are there, and we'll see what
happens with with Durant and and if he plays um. Okay,
So what do you think the Lake what? What do
you think of the Lakers move to hire Frank Vogel
and put Jason Kidd on staff. I don't understand it.
You know, if you're all going around telling us how
impressed you were with Jason Kidd in the interview, watch
you just hire him as coach and I think from
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the outside looking in, he's not hirable because he's not hirable. Well, no,
I think I think they're looking at it this way, Doug. Well,
they did hire him, though. My thing is he's not hirables.
He's not hirable as a head coach. Well, he's been
a head coach twice already, and Frank Frank Frank Vogel
had two disastrous seasons with Um with Orlando. Jason Kidd
made the you know, was on pace to making the
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playoffs with the Milwaukee Bucks, and he had made it.
I disagree with that. He's been a head coach twice
already in the league. I think it's more about they
don't want to make it seem like they're turning the
team over to Lebron James, so they make a concession
to Lebron have Jason Kidd will be the assistant coach,
but we're hiring the head coach because Phil Jackson wanted
to hire Frank Bogel in New York. You cannot tell
me that Phil Jackson, you know, isn't advising them on
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some type of level. And it just so happens that
it's Frank Bogel and Kurt Rambis was involved in the
hiring here. It's almost like that to the Genie Bus,
Lynda Rambis, Kurt Rambis on the outside, Phil Jackson kind
of wanted and Jason Kidd that's who Lebron wanted, and
we'll see if it could work. It's just bizarre when
you're making a head coach have to hide, you know,
you're going to tell him whose assistant coach is gonna be.
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I just don't think that works out. Yeah, No, it's um,
it's a it's an odd set of circumstances. What's your
sense of Kyrie? Is he the first choice of the
Knicks or would they prefer Kemba? Well, you know, you
do hear things from the Knicks now that they're a
little worried a couple of things with Kyrie. As you know,
he's had knee issues before. You know, it's it's not
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like your nique gets better, that doesn't mean he can't
still play the level. And also, you know the chemistry
issues on that team. You want to blame some of
the young guys, go right ahead, But the simple fact
is without Kyrie last year, they were in five minutes
of going to the NBA Finals, and the team that
they lost to get rid of Kyrie Irvan and they
went back to the finals. So Kyrie Irvan at some
point has to take some accountability for what happened in
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Boston this season. And I just think, you know, when
you're point guard, it's kind of like a flaky guy
and it's not really a guy that brings the group together.
Like I look at the guy like Stephon Marbury when
Stepan Marbury was in New York, There's no doubt that
step was a terrific player. Same thing in New Jersey,
Phoenix he had a much better run, and the same
thing in Minnesota. But your point guard kind of needs
to be the guy that kind of lists the group up,
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and I don't think Kyrie did that. He seemed to
bring a lot of guys down in his mood. He
always seems to be kind of dour and just like
not not the kind of person that brightens a room.
He has the opposite effect, and I think in the
long way, he hurts himself. I think he really needs it,
needs to take a long look at the way that
he goes about things instead of worry about telling us
all the time how smarty is. We get it, you're
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smart and you're a great player. We also get that,
but it is results oriented and without you they did
better than they did with you. It's a great point, Frank,
great stuff. Man has always really appreciate you joining us
after a weird night in the NBA where everyone was
so fired up for everyone's so fired up for the lottery,
and they're like, yeah, I know, I don't really like
this kind of random result type of thing. Can't we get?
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Can't we can't we get? David Stern back to freeze?
Then envelope please, Then, Doug, you know what's gonna happen
next year? The team with the worst records it won't
be the Knicks, and that team will win the lottery
next year. Fans crazy correct Frank E. Sola covers the
NBA for the Athletic and Serious x M NBA Radio. Frank,
great stuff. Thanks for joining us. Be sure to catch
live edition So the Doug dot Leaps Show week days
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in noon eastern three pm Pacific. Well, what's amazing about
the tanking thing? It's amazing about it is? Um, the
tanking thing hasn't worked. The whole idea of the lottery
was to cut down on the tanking, and then they've
skewed the lottery which actually still kind of helps teams
to tank, and it didn't help them in this particular case.
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And it all hasn't always helped them. You know. Uh,
it's a weird system that they have with takes fourteen
ping pong balls and you draw four of them, right,
that was ninety four to two thousand and fifteen percent chance. Um,
But you know, you go back to two thousand eleven,
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right before you know, when when Cleveland got the first pick,
the Timberwolves won seventeen games, they didn't get the first
overall pick. It has happened a bunch It's to happen
a bunch of times. It's just, um, it's just really
really interesting that it happened last night and people are like, oh,
the tanking doesn't work, like it actually hasn't worked for
a long time. When it when when Philadelphia did get
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the number one overall pick, they order you see, when
they got the third pick and they tanked, they actually
you know, traded up and they took Marquel Folts. So
I think it's really interesting that that all of a
sudden because more people watched. This is really my thing
with the NBA Draft lottery. We have actually had this
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happened time and again, where the worst teams don't get
the number one overpicked. That's why the lottery exists. But
because people watched maybe for the first time ever or
clued in on it, or because it was the New
York Knicks, because the Lake is some of the names. Nicks, Bulls,
Lakers were all involved. And there's Zion who by all
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accounts is the number one prospect on the board because
of all those things. It's like people paid more attention.
But this has happened before. It's happened a bunch of
times before, and I think it's I think it's hilarious.
It's hilarious that now they're like, well, now teams won't tank. Okay.
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Part of the tanking is not just it's not just
giving yourself the best opportunity to get the most to
get the number one overall pick. It's also shedding your
roster of you know, bad contracts so that you can
be a player in free agency. Like did the Knicks
want Zion Williamson. Yeah, but a huge factor in what
they try to do was getting rid of bad contracts
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so they could bring into max players. And oh yeah,
by the way, as much as tanking didn't work and
didn't land them Zion Williamson and stick at the third
pick overall in the NBA draft, I don't actually think
this is the end of tanking. And I don't think
it should be the end of the lottery. The lottery
is designed to have teams not tank because it it
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doesn't always help you to lose more games. And I
think the idea of all that happened last night only
tells you that there is risk and reward. You both,
but both plans oh risk and reward to it. There's
also some of these trades are lottery protected, top three protected,
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top five protected. Where do you protect? You know, in
what draft? There's a little bit of luck to it.
But there's this idea that last night was the end
of tanking, and I don't see it, don't see it
at all, you know, especially look at what the Lakers
did at the end of the sea Way. They couldn't
make the playoffs, they stopped fighting to try and make
the playoffs, and they put themselves into play and they
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end up looking into the fourth overall pick. So we
can sit here and go like, teams shouldn't tank, and
you might be right. It depends upon the team, depends
upon the coach, depends upon the general manager, depends up
how a bunch of different things. But I don't think
it's the end of tanking, because tanking does work. Fox
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Adam Gaze. Right, Like, Adam Gaze was in Miami and
he's basically a five hundred coach, and last year he
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didn't have Ryan Tannehill. Most a year year before he
didn't have Ryan tanne Hill at all. So to come
out of that situation and move to the Jets, and
granted he didn't get to make the entire draft, he
didn't get he greatly disagreed on how much they paid
Levan Bell, but he basically is going He's give me
the interim GM, which a lot of the work has done,
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but that means that he'll have a big say in
picking the next gentle manager. And Mike mccagnet fired today.
If you're Adam Gatee, like you were in Miami on
the hot seat, and now you get the new job
with the talented quarterback, some talented defensive players, pretty good draft,
talented running back, and you're your own you're your own boss.
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You want to talk about the Knicks may have been
losers last night, Adam Gaze is the ultimate winner today,
the ultimate winner. But let's also be honest that the
process by which the Jets went through to hire Adam
Gaze as their interraim general manager and their head coach.
The whole thing is really bizarre, right, just it's just odd.
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You know, he wasn't the only choice for this job.
Then he gets the job, and he had that weird
press conference where it looks like he's looking for a fly.
What are you looking at? What are you looking at?
And then there were rumors of some sort of you know,
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some sort of intellectual dysfunction between the two. So new
GM and him Gaze who Dadam Gates will hand pick.
The new GM will be on a parallel track directly
to the owner. Again, Gaze will not report to the
GM who he will hand pick. How great a gig
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is this? What a great gig? I mean, talk about
failing up? Holy hell? Gets fired in Miami, gets a
job in the same division with a better young quarterback,
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and now he's got a better running back and he's
got a couple of really talented defensive players. Granted didn't
get to make the whole draft, Granted didn't get to
do the whole free agency thing, But that is not
a bad gig if you're at Adam Gaze one the
week a basically a coup de Todd, which he wins.
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I don't understand Woody Johnson and the thinking here of like,
let's let the guy go through free agency where we
have all this money to spend, and go through the
NFL Draft. But he did end up with a couple
of talented, talented players Quinn and Williams they got which everybody.
Everybody loves Quinn and Williams, but they signed Levian Bell
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like that's Mike mcagnus still. So the beauty to this
thing with Adam Gates, the only downside is he didn't
get to make all decisions. But beauty to it is
now everybody knows he didn't make all decisions, so he's
gonna get an even more extended past.
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the New Orleans Pelicans like Zion Williamson. What a bummer
night in the NBA. What a bummer night? And look
New Orleans. If you want to meet tell you I
feel for you. I do I do um. You're a
city that has produced basketball players, an area the country
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that produces basketball players. You got cool music, You've got
good food, you got a cool vibe right, like, there's
you kind of you got your own language. There's a
lot of cool things in New Orleans, but Zion Williamson
might as well be playing on the moon if you're
the NBA and he would go to New Orleans, I
will grant you He's got a better personality today than
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Anthony Davis has had at any other point time in
his career. But Anthy Davis is a great player, and
no one's yearned to watch him play. And some of
that is the fact that they haven't won, and some
of that is market size, and some of that is Look,
I know that you guys were where I was just
I was. I was just working out and I was
(01:55):
getting ready to leave, and I walked into a conversation
without you know, the n C double A. They're so corrupt,
that's what this guy said. They are so corrupt. And
I was like, really, huh, He's like, look at Zion Williamson.
I was like, all right, let's look at Zion Wimson.
Howd he not gone to college? He would have gone
to the G League. Um, there were questions about how
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hard he work, how hard he played, Plus he being
an eighteen year old kid playing with grown men, and
not only to improve his athleticism and his game at
Duke playing against like aged players, but he his you know,
Duke promoted him. You know, playing for Duke is a
big thing. Thirty one times they were on national TV
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this year. Many times the Pelicans were on National TV seven.
How many times would he have been watched to us
in the G League? The answer is maybe once or zero? Right, Like,
he benefited greatly from the brand. And in addition to
being kind of off the NBA's radar map with the Pelicans,
and the Pelicans are in the West, but they're not
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in the West. New Orleans hasn't been the West since
well the Louisiana purchase. Really right like, that was the
last time they were in the western United States. So
in addition to that, no one even knows, like the
Pelicans are not a name brand because they haven't been
a brand long enough. Wait are they? The Hornets know,
(03:22):
there's no more Hornets. The Hornets are now in Charlotte,
back in Charlotte where they started. You know, you might
know it because it's a clever nickname or clever only
it's it's a different nickname. But there's no the brand
has not been built up, so it's fascinating to see
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what's Because Zion could could pull his name out of
the draft, go back to college, pull his name out
of draft, train all year. He could do the Eli
Manning and force a trade without telling anybody's forcing the trade,
but just because maybe those things should happen for his brand.
(04:04):
The likelihood is that Zion Williamson tries to become, you know,
the Russell Westbrook to Oklahoma City, the what Lebron was
to Cleveland before it became before he left. You know,
pick star player in small market and raise that thing
to prominence. Should he what he should do and what
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he will do? Like that's it. By the way, it
be off brand for him to do anything other than
show up and want to play basketball. But branding is
so powerful and so important. It's just very very interesting
to see how this plays out. Last night was one
of those nights where you look around the NBA You're like, look,
I don't know if David Stern did in fact rigg
rig the lottery so that Patrick Ewing could go to
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New York or Lebron James would end up in Cleveland.
But I'm not your Adam silver. Shouldn't What a tough night.
Then the Western Conference Finals were just Portland's bad matchup.
Don't have Nurkics dead on their feet because of fatigue,
because they played Sunday the Golden State Warriors, playing without
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two of their five starters, and it was fairly competitive,
modestly competitive most of the way. Nothing special about those
games at all. What a snooze fest. What what could
have been a celebration of the rebirth of the New
York Knicks, or of the l A Lakers, or of
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the Chicago Bulls. Instead, when you just kind of let
it play out, which is I don't believe it is
rigged or however, hasn't necessarily been rigged, but if there's
a special case where it should have been, yeah, that
should have been. People think that markets eyes doesn't matter.
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It absolutely does. It just does. The Knicks haven't really
been relevant for most of the past twenty years, yet
everybody's talking about the Knicks. Heck, the Jets. The Jets
went to two XC championship games. People talk a town
about them, and they're the second team in New York City.
I mean they fired their general manager Mike mccagnet earlier today.
Why because it's New York, more people live there, more
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eyes watched TV sets there, listening to radio shows there,
and of course they're spread throughout the country. No one
on earth has ever grown up a Pelicans fan who's
forty years old. It's it's impossible. One. The Pelicans didn't
exist into you know, the Hornets didn't exist there until
what was it twenty years ago? But what he does?
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What I mean like, there's no real other term for
it other than disaster. I mean, it's it's just crazy
crazy that the Pelikins are sitting there with the number
one pick and now they have Anthony Davis and Anthony
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Davis again. And if you think market size doesn't matter,
and I would agree that some of it is management
and the general mismanagement, but you have a general manager
who's been in charge of Lebron James and the Cleveland
Cavaliers and helped get them to the NBA finals. Remember
they had the number one overall pick right before they
acquired Lebron James and they end up in the finals.
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His obviously all four years, but he got fired before
his his last year there, so three consecutive years in
Cleveland and despite that Anthony Davis still wants out. He's like, oh,
Drew Holiday, Zion Williamson, Anthony Davis, what do you think,
big fella? I want out? Why because when no one
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wants to admit and you can't ask a coach or
a general manager or a player because they're all gonna say,
oh man, it's a great city. I love living there,
and I mean, like, look, Crescent City is pretty cool place.
Are there some dangerous parts? Hell yeah, um, but it's
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there are worse places on earth to be a multimillionaire. Act.
There are worse places in the NBA to be a multimillionaire.
Great places to live, cool vibe, you know. Besides, you
just there to play basketball, show up with facility, go
to the arena, go back home to your apartment like
this is not But Anthony Davis has had enough. So
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if you think that branding and market size don't matter,
just look at what happened last night in the NBA
and what will happen tonight, and the ratings will be
ridiculously low. In spite of the fact that these are
the two best teams in the Eastern Conference, the Bucks
have earned their right to call themselves the best team
in the Eastern Conference based upon their success and every
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statistical measure, and the Toronto Raptors are in their right
to finally get to the Eastern Conference Finals again with
a game winning shot over a talented seventies sixers team
in seven games, like they have earned, both of them
earned a way to be here. But you know, everyone
people want to talk about but recent success like, no,
it doesn't market size doesn't matter, name brand does matter.
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I didn't create the rules. I'm just telling you how
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M NBA Radio Monday through Friday, seven am. Frank, Uh,
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what was your reaction to Zion going to or if
he goes, he goes to New Orleans? Yeah, it was
a little shocking, Doug. I think when going into the lottery,
I think even though the odds were for the Knicks,
the Cabs and the Suns, maybe just because of the
older lotteries, we all thought, well, you know what, the
favorites will somehow end up with these top picks, and
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early on you said the Lakers move up in the
Memphis and then of course it was the New Orleans
Pelicans moving up having a six percent chance. That part
was surprising that it was that it ended up being
three of those top four teams. So they had the
Knicks moving down clearly, But how about Cleveland Phoenix and
then a team like the Atlanta Hawks and the Chicago
Bulls they also dropped? Um, what about the Knicks though?
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How much air is let out of the Knicks balloon? Like,
I know, the game plan is still a bringing in
free agents, but you know so much it was built
around the hype of potentially bringing in Zion. How much
this changed their offseason? I think you hit on it.
They a lot of this was built around Zion Williams,
and I think the Knicks thought that they had a
really good chance to get him. I think that they figured,
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you know what, seventeen and sixty five, there'll be a reward,
you know, at the end of the rainbow here for us,
and that's not the case. I think it's still got
a good player. You would know better than me. With
you know you followed the college game very closely. There's
gonna be a good player but available for them at three.
Whether or not they get that guy, that's another story.
Johnson uh Kawhi Leonard with the fifteenth old roll pick.
So good players are in the draft, but it's still
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again about free agency, and I just don't know a
lot of people are saying, oh, they could still make
a run at Anthony Davis. I have a hard time
believing that when you look at what the Knicks have
the third overall picking them, what else did they really
have to offer. I guess they have future picks, but
I I think if you're David Griffin, you're thinking, well,
if the Knicks way to get Anthony Davis and there's
a chance that Kevin durantut sign there, it's not like
these future picks are gonna be worth anything in the
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coming years. So I just Knicks don't have established players.
They have a seventeen and sixty five roster, and adding
the fourth overall pick to that, it's I don't know
if is that really that attractive to a team like
New Orleans when you compare it to what the Lakers
can do, and of course, what a team like the
Boston Celtics. Could they have guys that are already more
established and have played in playoff games. Yeah, and you
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don't want to part ways with Kevin Knox, right, I mean,
that's part of He's part of one of the building
blocks of what you want to build around. Um. So
I think they I think for Anthony Davis, I think
they'd give him up. I think they'd give up anything,
you know, just about anything to get Anthony Davis because
I think that would put them in a better position
to get Kevin Durant, possibly Kara Herving. I just don't
know if it's possible at this point. I mean, he
trade three and Kevin Knox and maybe some calf space,
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although I don't know how much calf space helps New Orleans.
But now you give a chance for New Orleans suppress reset.
Although I think the Lakers are gonna offer, you know,
they're young players and the fourth pick for Anthony Davis.
But you know, we don't know if New Orleans wants
to do business with the with the l A Lakers,
and we don't know if that I would think that
David Griffin, you have to be smart in this case.
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If you're gonna trade your best player, you have to
make sure that you get the best deal. And I
understand you don't want to trade him in the conference.
But if that's the case, didn't do it. But you know,
there is a history between David Griffin and the Knicks,
and it's not a great one. The Nicks were gonna
hire David Griffin as the general manager, and as he
was contemplated making the move, they went out and signed
Tim Hardaway's junior to an offer sheet. So Javid Griffin
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was thinking, we'll hang on a second. You guys want
me to run the team, and you already make the
moves without me, And then he was told, well, it's
going to kind of be a dual thing in terms
of running the basketball operation to doing Steve Mills. So
I think that did not go well with David Griffin. Again,
if you could get the best deal from the next
when we do that, I think he would, But just
keep that in mind as they're kind of going through
the whole process. Doug Olive Show on Fox Sport Trader,
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Radio on serious x M, covering the NBA UM one
are the chances that zion, which he can legally do.
He hasn't signed with an agent, and you can even
sign with an agent do this, says, I'm not going
to New Orleans. I'm just not doing it. You know.
It's it's funny with a kid like that. And we
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saw the way that he conducted himself all throughout the
season when he suffered the injury. The idea was, you
know what, he might be better off just shutting it down.
You're gonna be the uborn overall pick with us of
what happens, he goes back and plays place. Well, didn't
make it to a final four, but just the things
that he said after the season, this was the greatest
time in my life. I love playing it, Duke. I
think his image right now is so good and he's
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such a likable guy. I don't know why you would
want to mess with that. You're still in the NBA.
It's I get it. It's not New York. I think
you wanted to go to Atlantic because that's closer to
his home in South Carolina. I just don't think he
would do it. Would I completely rule it out. No.
I think that's a good point. You bring up, but
I don't know. His image is so good. Why would
you want to sully your reputation at this point. I don't.
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I don't think he will, but it is in fact
an option of card that he could he could very
well play. And then you got the Western Conference Finals,
which just I feel like a complete mismatch. I understand
the Portland's tired, but I mean, you tell me the
Warriors without KD, without DeMarcus Cousins, and you know, score
wise it was fairly competitive, but it wasn't really that was.
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It was never really in doubt, never really in doubt. Um.
I mean felt like a downer day, right, it really did.
But I also think what hurt the Western Conference Finals
is that this draft lottery had so much juice to it,
and because of Zion Williams in it, because it was
so unpredictable. It was really one of the crazier draft
lotteries that we've seen in a long time. And you
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had the big player there, so it was, you know,
that should have It's almost like there should have been
the game first and then the draft lottery, as opposed
to the other way around. So that kind of hurts
the game. I think in terms of people watching it,
and then just for the product itself. I think the
quick turnaround, you know, a very emotional Game seven on
the road. It's difficult forty eight hours later to come
out on the road and play a team like the Warriors.
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But I'm surprised. Maybe I shouldn't be, because the Warriors
have this, you know, they have won championships, have that
championship mentality, the toughness about them. I'm surprised at how
well did they played in Game five after Kevin Durant
went down those final four team minutes. I'm thinking, all right,
that's like a one shot deal. Houston will win Game
six and then the Wars will be fighting for their
lives in Game seven. They go down there, and they
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played great in Game six. And look what Steph Curry
has done the last you know, six quarters. He has
scored sixty nine points. I mean, the guy, he's been incredible.
The ball is moving a lot more than it does
when Kevin Durant doesn't play. That's not to say they're
better without Kevin Durant, but they play a different way.
But I think it also you have now we're probably
a greater appreciation for guys like Thompson, Steph Curry and
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Draymond Green, and in a weird way, it's like they've
become not that they were never likable, but I think
when Durant went there that kind of it was just
the rich getting richer. They've become kind of this more
likable almost in a bizarre kind of way, more of
an underdog kind of team. Frank I Shula joining us
in the doug Otlips Show on Fox Sports Radio, and
then you have the Raptor versus the Bucks tonight, which look,
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there's nothing to not like about Janic's nothing, he says
all the right thing. He's improved, he plays for his teammates,
he plays both ends the floor, um, and there's nothing
to not like. Lessarily about Kawhi Leonard. I know he
bailed on the Spurs and he's quiet whatever. They're two
great players, But I just, you know, between Toronto not
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rating and and you know, two kind of nondescript stars
in terms of mainstream America, I just I think the
ratings are gonna be bad, and it's gonna it's gonna
be one of those like, boy, do we still need
Lebron James kind of moment after tonight, that could be
the case. And I do think in the second round
he didn't think about Lebron a lot because the series,
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except for the Milwaukee Boston series, all of them were competitive.
Boston had some drama to it just because of all
the dysfunction of that team. That could be the case.
But I also think there are a lot of people
that want to see something new. But I do think
when you look at what the Warriors did last night,
it's hard now to have faith that Portland can make
it a competitive serious things can change dramatically. They win
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a game to them, they got home court advantage in
the Eastern Conference. You know, you mentioned the two names,
you know, Janice and Hawaii Leonard. They're outstanding players. I mean,
and if people like the sport they are, you're gonna
be drawing in the casual sports fans. Maybe not until
the NBA Finals, but the honest is becoming that big
of a player, and he's incredibly likable. He's a throwback
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kind of player. He's all about his team. He you know,
he puts a lot of time into his craft and
into his body, something that maybe Joel Embiach should start doing.
If he wants to see better results, so it's likable.
I do think you're right though, because of you know
the fact that it is Canada that might have a
little bit to do with it. But I do think
the NBA Finals, assuming the Warriors get there, it will
be a different story. Yeah, I think it will be.
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You know, the Warriors are there, and we'll see what
happens with with Durant and and if he plays um. Okay,
So what do you think the Lake what? What do
you think of the Lakers move to hire Frank Vogel
and put Jason Kidd on staff. I don't understand it.
You know, if you're all going around telling us how
impressed you were with Jason Kidd in the interview, watch
you just hire him as coach and I think from
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the outside looking in, he's not hirable because he's not hirable. Well, no,
I think I think they're looking at it this way, Doug. Well,
they did hire him, though. My thing is he's not hirables.
He's not hirable as a head coach. Well, he's been
a head coach twice already, and Frank Frank Frank Vogel
had two disastrous seasons with Um with Orlando. Jason Kidd
made the you know, was on pace to making the
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playoffs with the Milwaukee Bucks, and he had made it.
I disagree with that. He's been a head coach twice
already in the league. I think it's more about they
don't want to make it seem like they're turning the
team over to Lebron James, so they make a concession
to Lebron have Jason Kidd will be the assistant coach,
but we're hiring the head coach because Phil Jackson wanted
to hire Frank Bogel in New York. You cannot tell
me that Phil Jackson, you know, isn't advising them on
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some type of level. And it just so happens that
it's Frank Bogel and Kurt Rambis was involved in the
hiring here. It's almost like that to the Genie Bus,
Lynda Rambis, Kurt Rambis on the outside, Phil Jackson kind
of wanted and Jason Kidd that's who Lebron wanted, and
we'll see if it could work. It's just bizarre when
you're making a head coach have to hide, you know,
you're going to tell him whose assistant coach is gonna be.
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I just don't think that works out. Yeah, No, it's um,
it's a it's an odd set of circumstances. What's your
sense of Kyrie? Is he the first choice of the
Knicks or would they prefer Kemba? Well, you know, you
do hear things from the Knicks now that they're a
little worried a couple of things with Kyrie. As you know,
he's had knee issues before. You know, it's it's not
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like your nique gets better, that doesn't mean he can't
still play the level. And also, you know the chemistry
issues on that team. You want to blame some of
the young guys, go right ahead, But the simple fact
is without Kyrie last year, they were in five minutes
of going to the NBA Finals, and the team that
they lost to get rid of Kyrie Irvan and they
went back to the finals. So Kyrie Irvan at some
point has to take some accountability for what happened in
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Boston this season. And I just think, you know, when
you're point guard, it's kind of like a flaky guy
and it's not really a guy that brings the group together.
Like I look at the guy like Stephon Marbury when
Stepan Marbury was in New York, There's no doubt that
step was a terrific player. Same thing in New Jersey,
Phoenix he had a much better run, and the same
thing in Minnesota. But your point guard kind of needs
to be the guy that kind of lists the group up,
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and I don't think Kyrie did that. He seemed to
bring a lot of guys down in his mood. He
always seems to be kind of dour and just like
not not the kind of person that brightens a room.
He has the opposite effect, and I think in the
long way, he hurts himself. I think he really needs it,
needs to take a long look at the way that
he goes about things instead of worry about telling us
all the time how smarty is. We get it, you're
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smart and you're a great player. We also get that,
but it is results oriented and without you they did
better than they did with you. It's a great point, Frank,
great stuff. Man has always really appreciate you joining us
after a weird night in the NBA where everyone was
so fired up for everyone's so fired up for the lottery,
and they're like, yeah, I know, I don't really like
this kind of random result type of thing. Can't we get?
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Can't we can't we get? David Stern back to freeze?
Then envelope please, Then, Doug, you know what's gonna happen
next year? The team with the worst records it won't
be the Knicks, and that team will win the lottery
next year. Fans crazy correct Frank E. Sola covers the
NBA for the Athletic and Serious x M NBA Radio. Frank,
great stuff. Thanks for joining us. Be sure to catch
live edition So the Doug dot Leaps Show week days
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in noon eastern three pm Pacific. Well, what's amazing about
the tanking thing? It's amazing about it is? Um, the
tanking thing hasn't worked. The whole idea of the lottery
was to cut down on the tanking, and then they've
skewed the lottery which actually still kind of helps teams
to tank, and it didn't help them in this particular case.
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And it all hasn't always helped them. You know. Uh,
it's a weird system that they have with takes fourteen
ping pong balls and you draw four of them, right,
that was ninety four to two thousand and fifteen percent chance. Um,
But you know, you go back to two thousand eleven,
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right before you know, when when Cleveland got the first pick,
the Timberwolves won seventeen games, they didn't get the first
overall pick. It has happened a bunch It's to happen
a bunch of times. It's just, um, it's just really
really interesting that it happened last night and people are like, oh,
the tanking doesn't work, like it actually hasn't worked for
a long time. When it when when Philadelphia did get
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the number one overall pick, they order you see, when
they got the third pick and they tanked, they actually
you know, traded up and they took Marquel Folts. So
I think it's really interesting that that all of a
sudden because more people watched. This is really my thing
with the NBA Draft lottery. We have actually had this
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happened time and again, where the worst teams don't get
the number one overpicked. That's why the lottery exists. But
because people watched maybe for the first time ever or
clued in on it, or because it was the New
York Knicks, because the Lake is some of the names. Nicks, Bulls,
Lakers were all involved. And there's Zion who by all
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accounts is the number one prospect on the board because
of all those things. It's like people paid more attention.
But this has happened before. It's happened a bunch of
times before, and I think it's I think it's hilarious.
It's hilarious that now they're like, well, now teams won't tank. Okay.
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Part of the tanking is not just it's not just
giving yourself the best opportunity to get the most to
get the number one overall pick. It's also shedding your
roster of you know, bad contracts so that you can
be a player in free agency. Like did the Knicks
want Zion Williamson. Yeah, but a huge factor in what
they try to do was getting rid of bad contracts
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so they could bring into max players. And oh yeah,
by the way, as much as tanking didn't work and
didn't land them Zion Williamson and stick at the third
pick overall in the NBA draft, I don't actually think
this is the end of tanking. And I don't think
it should be the end of the lottery. The lottery
is designed to have teams not tank because it it
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doesn't always help you to lose more games. And I
think the idea of all that happened last night only
tells you that there is risk and reward. You both,
but both plans oh risk and reward to it. There's
also some of these trades are lottery protected, top three protected,
(25:10):
top five protected. Where do you protect? You know, in
what draft? There's a little bit of luck to it.
But there's this idea that last night was the end
of tanking, and I don't see it, don't see it
at all, you know, especially look at what the Lakers
did at the end of the sea Way. They couldn't
make the playoffs, they stopped fighting to try and make
the playoffs, and they put themselves into play and they
(25:32):
end up looking into the fourth overall pick. So we
can sit here and go like, teams shouldn't tank, and
you might be right. It depends upon the team, depends
upon the coach, depends upon the general manager, depends up
how a bunch of different things. But I don't think
it's the end of tanking, because tanking does work. Fox
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s R to listen live. What a great day for
Adam Gaze. Right, Like, Adam Gaze was in Miami and
he's basically a five hundred coach, and last year he
(26:17):
didn't have Ryan Tannehill. Most a year year before he
didn't have Ryan tanne Hill at all. So to come
out of that situation and move to the Jets, and
granted he didn't get to make the entire draft, he
didn't get he greatly disagreed on how much they paid
Levan Bell, but he basically is going He's give me
the interim GM, which a lot of the work has done,
(26:39):
but that means that he'll have a big say in
picking the next gentle manager. And Mike mccagnet fired today.
If you're Adam Gatee, like you were in Miami on
the hot seat, and now you get the new job
with the talented quarterback, some talented defensive players, pretty good draft,
talented running back, and you're your own you're your own boss.
(27:01):
You want to talk about the Knicks may have been
losers last night, Adam Gaze is the ultimate winner today,
the ultimate winner. But let's also be honest that the
process by which the Jets went through to hire Adam
Gaze as their interraim general manager and their head coach.
The whole thing is really bizarre, right, just it's just odd.
(27:29):
You know, he wasn't the only choice for this job.
Then he gets the job, and he had that weird
press conference where it looks like he's looking for a fly.
What are you looking at? What are you looking at?
And then there were rumors of some sort of you know,
(27:49):
some sort of intellectual dysfunction between the two. So new
GM and him Gaze who Dadam Gates will hand pick.
The new GM will be on a parallel track directly
to the owner. Again, Gaze will not report to the
GM who he will hand pick. How great a gig
(28:11):
is this? What a great gig? I mean, talk about
failing up? Holy hell? Gets fired in Miami, gets a
job in the same division with a better young quarterback,
(28:31):
and now he's got a better running back and he's
got a couple of really talented defensive players. Granted didn't
get to make the whole draft, Granted didn't get to
do the whole free agency thing, But that is not
a bad gig if you're at Adam Gaze one the
week a basically a coup de Todd, which he wins.
(28:56):
I don't understand Woody Johnson and the thinking here of like,
let's let the guy go through free agency where we
have all this money to spend, and go through the
NFL Draft. But he did end up with a couple
of talented, talented players Quinn and Williams they got which everybody.
Everybody loves Quinn and Williams, but they signed Levian Bell
(29:18):
like that's Mike mcagnus still. So the beauty to this
thing with Adam Gates, the only downside is he didn't
get to make all decisions. But beauty to it is
now everybody knows he didn't make all decisions, so he's
gonna get an even more extended past.
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