Bucks Are Learning From Losses

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What is the greatest teacher? What is the greatest teacher
in the world? Right? Um, By my estimation, experience is
in fact the greatest teacher, right. And what we've seen

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from the Milwaukee Bucks, from the Toronto Raptors, from Kawai Leonard,
from Jana Sintenna Kumpo is just that experience is in
fact the greatest teacher. Don't believe me. Kawai Leonard though
that though he wasn't perfect and he wasn't great in
the first two games of this series, he's started to
figure out the defensive rotations and where to find teammates

(02:15):
and how to play through things. He has dominated Janice.
A matter of fact, Janice has really struggled when being
guarded by Kauai Leonards seven of twenty two from the floor,
when being guarded um by a guy who you know,

(02:35):
Quiet Leonard, who's won and NBA NBA Finals MVP four
This was called by Leonard after the win on how
he deals with pressure situations. Are pretty much trying to
stay with the consistent mindset throughout the whole game, you know,
just trying to read the defense throughout the entire games.
He was working and like you said, you told me
tonight and go get it and I'm not. I'm not

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afraid at the moment um my enjoy and you know,
this was what I work out for next summer. This
is a quote from Vernon Law. Experience is a hard
teacher because she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards.
Here's Janice talking about the importance of game six. You know,
you cannot do this just another game. It's a must win,

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like everybody knows it, knows it, you know, and you're
just going to go in there and try to do
as much as we can do. Live everything on the court,
you know, make shots, play hard, uh, give energy and
hopefully you can get it when it's not just another game.
You got to go in there and when come back, Yeah, listen,

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because Kauai has been there and done that, and because
they added Danny Green, and because frankly there's been failure
before surrounding him in the locker room. Think about what
the Toronto Raptors have figured out here. Now, how granted,
because there's no Lebron, that's just different, right, as talented

(04:05):
as Janice is, and maybe there's potential to be better
than Lebron because he's just longer, more athletic, and they're
able to put a cast of characters around him that
fits his skill set quicker and more successfully than they
were able to do in Cleveland. You could make that.
I'm not sure. I'm not ready for that argument, but
Janice is likely to be the NBA's m v P

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as the all NBA teams were announced yesterday and um,
you know, look the Raptors there's no Lebron, and there's
an inexperienced superstar, and they traded out their own star
to bring in and experienced superstar and Danny Green, who,
of course has been a money player. And no matter

(04:48):
how Danny Green contributes on the floor in terms of
shots he makes, we know he's a two way player
and we know that he just kind of gets it.
I mean, even even the point guard position. Think about
and by the way, how amazing is Fred VanVleet. If
you're not aware uh. He played what was a Game four,

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then went back to uh Illinois, Rockford, Illinois, where he
he grew up and the birth of his He was
there for the birth of his second son. Then he
flew back to Toronto, balled out in game five, flew
back to Illinois, or actually flew to Milwaukee with the team,
then drove an hour and a half to his hometown,
hung out with his family, and then drove back and

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then he's he's played his best basketball. But the backcourt
has been a lot better for the Bucks. I'm excuse
me for the Raptors as of late. And you know,
one thing you can draw on whether it was Kyle
Lowry who dropped seventeen you know, had six assists and
seven rebounds, playing as well as was needed, or or

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Fred VanVleet having twenty one points off the bench, hitting
a remarkable seven of nine three point shots, both of
them have a chief success but then failure in the
playoffs before failure in this series, but failure last year
in the playoffs. So I mean, experience is an incredible teacher.

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But the test was first for the Bucks and the
lesson is in the off season, which it doesn't mean
that they have no shot of winning six and seven.
It's gonna be really hard to win in Toronto. The
Raptors are a far better team, and the Bucks have
offered nothing to let us believe that they're the they're
the better team, especially when playing north of the border.

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But we have this, we have this feeling in our
somehow in our d n A and I get it,
like everybody has to do something the first time in
order to do something. You know, Michael Jordan failed time
and again against the Detroit Pistons. Everyone has to you
have to have, you can't have. You can't accomplish something

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without doing it the first time. But but fail ling
is a part of the process. And I think that's
simply what we're learning here from the Bucks and the Raptors.
The Raptors have failed at this point in previous years.
Some of it is no Lebron there, but some of
it is. They added two guys who have seen success,
they know and they're calm and and like, look that dude,

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Kawhi Leonard is a flatliner. The same thing that he's
missing in his personality that doesn't draw people in is
probably the same thing that allows him to be successful
in these key moments. He's not a very high guy,
not a very low guy. He is a machine and
he right now he's a winning machine. And he wasn't perfect.
I mean it took him twenty five shots to score

(07:41):
thirty five points, Like that's an inefficient night. But he's
become a very good three point shooter. He's always been
an excellent reboundery. Nine assists for a guy that's been
criticized because of his lack of ability to create shots
for other people. They keep collapsing on him. He was
finding his teammates, you know, whether it's Siakum or VanVleet
or Allow and they start making shots and all of

(08:02):
a sudden, that opens up space for him to get
to the rim. Experience is a hard teacher. Hard teacher
does not great out a curve. Like we don't sit
there and go like wow the box, you know, we
don't look historically and go out of the box. You know. Yeah,
they lost at home, and they may lose the series
that they had complete control of, but they hadn't won

(08:25):
a playoff series with Janice, and this is their first
time Like, well, no, there's no curve here, but there
should be and we should we should point out time
and again like, hey, this is their first time. Doesn't
feel like it will be there last time. Heck, this
is the first time for this, you know, for for

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Mike Budenholzer as head coach to be in this position,
you know, he's had good teams in the past and
he's been alongside Gregg Popovich. But doing it for yourself
with this group of players, with this type of star
who's going through a little bit of frustration as they
found the one matchup that he can't always win like
Kauai Leonard in addition to being the Lebron stopper, is

(09:10):
the honest stopper. So I would love to freak out
and say, beyond a reasonable doubt, Janice doesn't have it.
Janice isn't ready. Look, Lebron James had to learn to win,
had to learn to handle his emotions. He had to
learn he remember remember when they lost the Dallas Mavericks

(09:32):
after Game one when when Dirk was sick. You remember
that was when he and Dwyane Wade got videoed making
fun of the fact they didn't believe that Dirk was sick. Like, look,
these are things that like you just learned and you
can only learn by doing. People ask me all the
time about getting into this business, and I tell them, like, look,
you're not gonna learn by watching somebody else do it.

(09:54):
You want to be on air, start your own podcast,
go to a small market, do your own radio show.
You're going to get better. Now. You gotta take feedback
and you gotta learn the lessons of the past, and
especially harsh lessons. If you lose a gig, why I
lose it, have be willing to listen to the hard answers.
When you're a basketball player, this is how you learn.

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You know, we talked about it last week. Playing against
older competition, they will expose your flaws. And that's what
happened here with Jana's is he's getting exposed as a
guy that you can't really make a shot, not a
confidence shooter. Now you get a little bit tired, pressure
gets a little bit tighter, you get a little bit tighter,
and those shots that were rattling in now they're not.

(10:36):
And all of a sudden, it's affecting all other parts
of your game. So I I just I think Toronto
and and look, Toronto made a coaching change last year
and people weren't happy about it. They just weren't like,
how can you They had the best record in the East,
how can you fire them? And they got now unto
governor of their head coach, their defensive coording in Rex Calumanian.
Because he didn't get the job, he left. He went

(10:57):
to the Clippers. But they've leave to Nick Nurse. Nick
Nurse has one granted at the NBA level but in
other levels before, and he's been able to solve this
puzzle of the Milwaukee Bucks defense, which was the best
defense statistically in the NBA in the regular end postseason,
they learned the lessons of their past. They were helped

(11:18):
out by Lebron leaving the East, not denying that. They
added to championship pieces, changed their head coach, change some
of their style, and made some adjustments mid series and
just started making shots and gained their confidence. And now
they have a three games that to leave their one
win away from their first NBA Finals. Experience is a

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hard teacher. You get the test first and the lesson second.
NBA insider Rick Buker joins the show up coming next
does he think the Bucks are done? Plus Lebron James
supposedly has activated recruiting mode, liking Kyrie Irving post on
install Graham, will he land a big fish? We'll discuss next.

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I know this because Ramos was a little late to
work today was getting his bikini wax. I mean, I
look he took it like a champ. You're not. You
don't look any worse for the way, Ramos. I'm proud
of you. Um, it's it's interesting that you've stuck with
the speed of all these years. Um, but I liked
themandscaping I do. I think I appreciate that of respect
and of respect the game, um, and I just respect

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the player even if I don't love the game. Doug
Allie Joey rolls on Fox Sports Radio. Rick Buker is
our guest. You see him on Fox Sports one talking
hoops all the time. You read his work and Bleacher Report,
and he joins us the day after the Bucks lose
home court advantage the Toronto Raptors. What an incredible turnaround
in the series, which felt like it was a rap

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after Game two, and now after Game five, suddenly Toronto
has a chance to close this thing out at home.
Buke had this series to turn around so quickly. Well,
they figured something out obviously, and I believe that they realized. Look, defensively,
that's where our energy has to go. We need to

(13:55):
utilize Kauhi Leonard on on jana Us more and make
him playing a crowd and then rather than trying to
get really tricky offensively, it's been it's been an ISO
game and let's let's milk Kawhi Leonard for everything it's worth.
And he has delivered. I mean it's an oversimplification in

(14:17):
some ways, but they've really made this about our best
player versus your best player. Let's see who can execute
if it comes down to more of an iso ISO game,
a a more fractured game than an up and down game.
And and it's working and um, you know unless unless

(14:39):
the Bucks get a lot of flow in their offense. Uh,
they're demonstrating that they have a hard time playing at
this pace. Yeah, it's it's it's it. It does feel
to me like the experienced team has looked like the
experienced team. You know, you didn't have a Kawhi Leonard
who had won an NBA Championship as a finals MVP
and had lost in the NBA finals as well. Let's

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let's not forget you know they had that series the
year before one. If you didn't have a Danny Green,
and maybe if you didn't even have the Raptors who
have suffered defeats in the past, there wasn't a freak
out in this team when they're down two games none,
whereas the Bucks have looked a little bit frazzled, and
you know, they looked especially late in the game there
where you're trying to deny the ball in bounds there,

(15:22):
they seem lost as to what they want to do.
Raptors look like the team that's been there before. Yeah, no,
it's all of that is true. I think it's also
simply a matter of that, you know, this is this
is a test of honest And this is why I
always felt that the Raptors were a better team, because
I look at the individual matchups and if I'm asking

(15:46):
Chris Middleton or Eric Bledsoe to take me to the
Promised Land versus Kyle Lowry and uh and Kauhi Leonard,
I'm gonna go with the ladder rather than the former.
And I'd say, I'm not mentioning your honest, but that's
because I felt as if they made him a thinker
and a playmaker as opposed to just I'm breaking you

(16:11):
down physically at every opportunity, I'm playing fast and I'm
beating you with my athleticisms. They made him a decision
maker and it's easier said than done. He's just not
he's not ready for that. Uh And and that's what
we're seeing is that he's gotten tentative. And now, what
was really amazing in this last game last night was

(16:31):
seeing how that spread throughout the team. Bledsoe was tentative,
Middleton was tentative, like they all suddenly recognized the import.
I don't know if the import of the game or
you know, for the first time we had a really
back and forth. Every possession counts and this is going
to be a grind. But they looked uncomfortable at home

(16:53):
in a way that I had not seen them in
this series to this point. And conversely, you see the Raptors,
even with the terror will start, you know, the unflappable
Kawhi Leonard just wasn't He's not going to show anything.
He's confident in terms of what he's he can do.
I have to laugh. You've probably seen the clips of
him playing in high school. I mean, it's the same

(17:14):
He's been playing the same game. He should be comfortable.
He's going to the same spots, taking the same shots,
attacking the same way, uh for for years, even before
he got to San Antonio. So um, it's not a
surprise that he's comfortable in that situation. Rick Buker joining
us from Bleacher Report FS once Doug otlip Show here

(17:36):
on Fox Sports Radio. Do you think the series is over?
I do, just because I don't know. I mean, look,
there are some some things that the that the Bucks
could do to reinvent themselves at this point. Is Mike
Budenholzer willing to do that? Are they capable of doing that?
I'm not so sure that that is. I don't I

(17:56):
don't see the Milwaukee doing it because I think if they,
if they could or did, they would have at this point,
and I mean, they're just getting so Toronto is getting
so much out of their role players that I thought
was vital Marcusol, Sergebaca, Uh Powell, and I don't expect
that to go. I don't expect that to be reversed

(18:18):
in this closeout game at home. I think you're going
to continue to seek great contributions from them. And the
work that Casol and Nevaka have done to limit the
advantage that Glopez provided Um has been has been huge.
Um That that to me is why it was a
blowout in the previous game and why the Bucks have

(18:39):
not been able to gain any separation. You know, it's
it's it's fascinating to me, Um that you know, I
had a I actually have a kind of insider's edge
as to what went wrong last year. You remember when
they lost was that game seven to to Cleveland last year?
Was that the game six to Cleveland on the on
the road? Um? I can't. Or did they get swept

(19:01):
last year by Cleveland? I can't. I can't even remember. Um,
but when they lost that game, you got swept. So
it was game four. But you remember like Lebron hit
the game winner, kind of the floater going to his left,
kind of that awkward floater, and it's it's interesting. So
here's here's what really happened. So they were getting ready
to to to play defense, and they have the offensive

(19:26):
coach and the defensive coach. They can sub based upon
whose ball it is, and they had put their center
into the game, that was Jonas Valanciunis, to be on
the to be on the basketball and uh, you know
for the last play or to defend the rim on
the last play. And what happened was because there was discussion,
still discussion about what was gonna happen and how they

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were going to defend it, they didn't realize that Cleveland
was going to go to the length of the floor.
Like here's all the time, all time underrated thing was
you know, at the very last second, they figured out,
wait a second, they're going length of the floor and
there was a miscommunication. Remember they were supposed to double
team Lebron James in the backcourt. They didn't. He got
a free run and he made it anyway, So you

(20:08):
Siam Cherry comes into the locker room and he's furious
about the defense in the last possession, and it caused
him to make this staff change, getting rid of Rex Calamanian,
getting rid of the head coach as well. And you
know what I mean, like, look, he's his name is
on the line and going out and getting Marcusol late.
I think of all the moves that were made, that

(20:31):
could be the move that puts them into the NBA Finals,
in addition to the gamble of Kawhi Leonard. I expected
that when it happened, but I hadn't seen it. I mean,
I really thought that this story was going to be
about how Marcusol finally got his shot and didn't make
the most of it. Um or Or played tentatives, because
that's how he played at the beginning of the series,

(20:53):
and I just thought, you know, however old he is,
this is he's got more talent than this and Or
left in the tank, and I thought, maybe this is
why he stayed in Memphis all these years, because he
really didn't want to face this kind of of challenge.
But the way he's played the last couple of games
has has defied that and it's made all the difference

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in the world. This is the funniest part for me.
Nick Nurse got the job because he was supposedly an
offensive guru and they had issues with and how stayed
the offense was under under Dwayne Casey. Dude, they're just
grinding it out defensively and playing ice soapball at the
other end. There's there's absolutely no offensive creativity going on.
But again I look at their team and I'm not

(21:35):
surprised by that because you don't have everybody wants to
play like the Warriors. They don't they they don't have
the personnel for it. It's it's honestly, it's the best
point that that you made a lot of great points
on my show, on all the TV shows, that's one
that doesn't get made enough. I remember when the when
the Clippers had Chris Paul, there's a lot of that. Well,
they always just played through Chris Paul, played through Chris

(21:57):
Paul's like, hey, guess what, you can't play through d
You can't move the ball with DeAndre. Jordan's like that,
that's not how JJ Reddick plays. J J Reddick plays
without the basketball. And so now you're playing. Now you've
got three guys, and then all right, you got you
got Blake Griffin who is a better passer, and they
do play through him some, but you know, you put
the ball in your best player's hands. It's the same
thing as Kevin Durant. He doesn't play as well when

(22:18):
the thing is zipping all over the place. He wants
to give me the ball and everybody's space out and
if nobod double comes, I get to my spots and
I make shots. It's fascinating that not enough people point
that out. Rick Brucker joining us from Bleacher Report. Let's
let's get to Kevin Durant. There's been a weird back
and forth with Chris Broussard. Of course, all it takes

(22:38):
is four wins against against Portland's, three of which were
massive comebacks against Portland for people to freak out and
go like, hey, even though Kevin Durant was averaging forty
a game, maybe they don't need him. How do you
think that the sweep of Portland affects the mentality of
of Kevin Durant. I don't know that it it affects
it at all. I mean, look, I don't I don't

(22:58):
think the series. I don't think what happens this year
is is has an impact on his decision or or
or where he is. Um. I mean, it certainly doesn't help,
let's put it that way, But I really don't think
it's like if they needed him to get it done,
he would stay. As far as the future or the
fact that they don't need him, that he's now like

(23:20):
even more uh convinced that he should or needs to
go elsewhere. I think they're really they're really two separate things.
And I think this team collectively, both kat and the
team itself have recognized that they're not gonna be together
next year, and so, you know what, let's make the
most of what we're capable of accomplishing right now. Katie

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very much wants to win three in a row. So
do the rest of the Warriors. So that's why they
have said, hey, we really need him, and that's why
he's backed up the idea. When anybody suggests that they don't,
and anybody who does is not recognizing where are the
Warriors are right now and who they played. Yes, you

(24:03):
can sweep the Blazers. They can get back to playing
the game that they did. Cavan Luney can have the
influence that he can have, Steve Kirk can go deep
into his bench against the Blazers. Let's see how that
works when you've got to face a little more talent
and a little more talented size, which they very well

(24:23):
may face against Toronto coming off the bench. I don't
I don't like Toronto's scheme in the way they've played
to win compared to what the Warriors are capable of.
But I'm I'm what I'm really kind of puzzled by
are all the people who think that, oh, if Milwaukee
gets there, we'll have a series, and if the Toronto does,
we won't. I I look at it kind of the

(24:45):
opposite way. I think if anybody's going to give the
Warriors any is going to create any intrigue in the
in the play in the finals, it's going to be
the Toronto Raptors. Lebron supposedly is in recruiting mode, okay um.
He liked a photo That was the photoshop of of
Kyrie earlier today in a Lakers jersey. Um does this work?

(25:09):
Does he land a big fish? Because now he's he's
he's he Instead of doing the passive thing, he's just
going after it. No. Look, the the Lakers are a mess.
People know they're a mess. There's a piece that I
did earlier in the year where you know that when
you come in your second fiddle to Lebron, if things

(25:32):
go well, Lebron is gonna get the credit. If they don't,
you're going to get the blame. None of that dynamic
has changed and there's nothing really that Lebron can say
that is going to change that narrative for people. So
I you know, I mean, really, we're to the point
where if he likes an Instagram post, that an indication

(25:53):
that he's on the job. Look, we really insult the
intelligence of players. We always have, but we really do
now like this is a whole and I know, like
people who like to go to the whole friendship thing. Look, yeah,
guys want to play with who they want to play with,
but they also see the opportunity from a business standpoint

(26:15):
and being able to um have their influence on an
organization and their legacy and all of that. The Lakers
sadly do not provide any of that right now, with
or without Lebron James, I don't. I don't agree with
that one. I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with you in

(26:36):
terms of what well. First, I mean, look, they have
their own network, they have a huge brand. You're in
Los Angeles, you know, I love the Clipper thing. I
think the Clipper thing is really really smart, but it's
still the Clippers, right, It's it's a lot like that.
I get that. I mean, like, look, if you I
you're You're completely right. This is what I've always said

(26:57):
about whoever comes in and plays with Lebron. You're not wrong.
On the other hand, even if your second fiddle, there's
a ton of benefits to it. Look at Kyrie Irving, right, like,
his career clearly benefited from his time with Lebron. Whether
or not he enjoyed that time or not, I'm not
disagreeing with it, disagreeing with his feelings, but but he
he was put in position to play in NBA finals.

(27:18):
He got hurt one year, they won one year. You know,
so I got you. I'm just pointing out, though that
there are some pitfalls, It's still the Lakers. It's a
Lakers town, it's Lebron. I think there's way more upside
there than there is in Brooklyn than there is with
the Clippers and Frankie the New York Knicks. It's like
you're starting from scratch and the idea that that team

(27:39):
would be competitive at the top of the NBA when
everybody else is a ten year head start on you.
That that that defies logic in my opinion, I get
I get all that, but I'm specifically talking about who's
running the show for the Lakers right now. Players do
have to have an intrinsic trust in who they're going

(27:59):
to play for, whether it be the coach or the GM,
and say, I know they can get me where I
want to go. I know they can build a good
situation that does matter and the relationship and I you know,
I'm um be interested to see um what happens down

(28:21):
the line. But the relationship, the the knowledge that Kevin
Durant has about Scott Perry from their time together in
Oklahoma City, that matters. Shawn Mark's coming from the San
Antonio Tree and the team that he built this year
that matters, Like those things matter to guys. I know
what what part of the equation it is. We can

(28:44):
go back and forth any would imagine it depends on
the guy. But like looking at the at the Lakers
right now and questioning, so, who's putting this thing together
and what do they know? That's a big question mark
that Lebron and anybody were rooting stars to the team
right now has to get over. Um. The last thing

(29:06):
is that the All NBA teams came out, and obviously
Clay felt like he got snubbed, and I think it's
a it's a he can make a very very good argument.
On the other hand, the All NBA teams are about
the regular season, I don't you know. And it's what's
what's weird is like, have have enough people went out
Lebron James should have been on an All NBA team,
Like you can't play fifty eight games and your team
not play what not not play that well? And you know,

(29:30):
But my bigger point is, isn't this a union screw up? Right?
That that we're dependent upon the voting of the media
to determine somebody's contract. Like I understand that the SuperMac
should only be afforded to the best players on the planet.
But if is that how we're determining it, I feel
like this is a union screw up. It's a union

(29:51):
screw up. It's it's without question, it's also a league
screw up in that in this day and age, the
idea that you pick teams and you pick two guards,
and you pick two forwards, and you pick one center
and this is going to determine who gets the super
Max potentially in the league is as antiquated and outdated

(30:12):
as you can get. It should be the top fifteen players.
And if we were picking the top fifteen players, I mean,
I'll be honest, like I was scrambling and picking my
uh my all NBA teams. I was scrambling to figure
out who was gonna be my third team center as
and and looking at that at the value of that,

(30:32):
you know, Joel Embiid, Nicola Yokich, Okay, I'm good there
the third guy. If I'm looking at it through the
prism of who's the third super max worthy All NBA center,
I'm I'm I'm scraping there. It should be the top fifteen,
no positions, because we're practically at a position lest place

(30:53):
in the league now anyway. And and if you're if
you're a great guard and you're in a guard dominated
league the way it is today, should you be short
changed simply because of the position that you play. That's
the part that I think that has to be fixed first, Yeah,
and then and then it's hard even with guards, like
how do you evaluate Kemba who's putting up crazy numbers

(31:15):
on a non playoff team versus Clay who's playing both
ends on a complete team. But he's not he's not
his ball dominant obviously, he doesn't play that way anyway.
So that's a that's a hard one even that to
measure up. And I went and I went through that
very thing because and I understand the difficulty in voting
on this, but that's where I think you have to
put the statistics aside. You have to put everything aside,

(31:37):
and you have to say, and it's it's it's subjective,
but you gotta have to step back and you have
to go who's the better player? Who's the If I
put Clay Thompson on the Charlotte Hornets, could I win
thirty nine games? Could he do more for me? Could
I utilize him in more ways? In my mind, no question.
I could I for Kemba based on his size and

(31:59):
his game. The fact that he wore down is not
a surprise. That's a challenge. I can efficiently do things
with Clay Thompson and he can do things for me
at both ends of the floor that Kemba Walker can't.
And that's why Clay Thompson was on my third All
NBA team and Kemba Walker was not. Awesome stuff. As always, Rick,

(32:19):
have a very happy Memorial Day. Thanks so much for
being part of the show. Love you in the Fox
Sports family and and appreciate you. Thanks you got it
all right? That's Rick Buker, join us, get said David.
We had some fans of my um of my Tom
Brokaw yesterday. It's pretty good. Touch my walls because because

(32:40):
what you have to do is you have to not
move your lips while you're talking art. How I that's
how I get to my Tom broke. It takes me
a while because I I I you my hands and
my lips and I'm I'm yeah anyway right, yeah, you
gotta get your chin down. You've changed your voice about
not move your lips from your David. Did you realize

(33:01):
by the time you got out of here yesterday in
Minnesota was still hitting home runs in Anaheim? I did, sadly,
it did, sadly, Like this is this is I'm not
here for people whore not aware what we're talking about.
We never cover carry like day baseball. We got four
four screens up and we're watching baseball games and they
take place. The Angels never have a rain out. They
had a rain out the day before because it's a

(33:22):
big thunderstorm in southern California taking on the Twins are
in first place, really good team, been smashing them anyway,
And so yesterday during the show, we're like updating this
bludgeoning that Matt Harvey was Matt Harvey his neck had
to hurt because so many times he had to turn
around and watch the ball go out of the yard
and start a pitcher for the Angels. It got comical,
But yes, I was just I wanted to see how
bad it got. And then it got to sixteen to

(33:43):
two and they lost seventeen to seven. Yeah, exactly. It
was like every news is scored seven runs? Mad news?
Is that game up seventeen? Bad? Every time you're in
a monologue, was like, wait a minute, home run, home run,
home run. I don't well, speaking of home runs, Chicago
is at it today. The Coveies have hit three of
them so far. Kyle Schwarberg, Yeah, yesterday. Yeah, he's got
eight so far this season. Then Chris Bryant Anthony Rizzo

(34:05):
actually went back to back in the third inning. Bryant's
was a two run shot. He's got twelve on the season.
Cub He's leading the Reds four to one as we
speak right now from Wrigley. Detroit's lost nine games in
a row. They're in New York today against the Mets,
and Noah Syndergard goes for the for the home team today.
Off the Diamond, Mets did sign Urban Santanta minor league deal.
Seattle Mariners have kind of fallen off the map a
little bit. They've released right handed pitcher Tyler Danish. Meanwhile,

(34:29):
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Jones has finally retired after fourteen seasons in the league.
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Jerry Jones commented on Ezekiel Elliott's physical altercation just last week,
and here is Jerry. The main thing is that I
don't see anything that needs supporting in terms of his
status for us. Has not been impacted me and frankly,
I know how conscientious has been in the off season

(36:50):
and that's good enough now. Ever, seeing that having any
consequences face, I thought that being said, Doug, do you
think Zeke will face any discipline from the NFL for
latest incident. No, it's just you've seen the video, I
know I have. Basically, he gets into a security guarden
kind of big boys him and just kind of, you

(37:10):
know it kind of like does the whole stick out
your chest and the guy like falls down almost it
felt like a James Harden flops. I mean, just it
just he just looks like an idiot, right, But I don't.
I don't think you suspend a guy for looking like
an idiot and maybe having too much to drink and
wearing a lebron jersey to a concert like whatever. It's
not a strong look for Zekei Elliott, but it's not

(37:33):
suspension worthy fair enough. New York Giants wide receiver Golden
Tate said this about their quarterback situation on Serious XM
NFL Radio with Good News. Look with with dance situation,
He's he's sitting right behind a Hall of Fame type quarterback,
so he's gonna have an opportunity to learn some some
incredible tools that that that can help him um in

(37:55):
the future. So you know, I hope it's kind of
like that that breath far and do this kind of
situation eventually. Oh boy, So Doug do you think this
will be like that transition from far to Rogers Where
where where? Or five walks into the to the cafeteria
and Rogers makes fun of him, calls him Grandpa. They
don't talk for a couple of years, and then you know,

(38:16):
after one down year, Rodgers becomes the best quarterback on earth. Yeah,
I don't know that. But look, would you sign up
for another Eli Manning? I would? I would? I know
what he meant, like, let's not take him literally, let's
take him figuratively. But because we know somebody the details
of that relationship, it's hard not to take him. Little
you like you like Eli Manning in the Hall of Fame.

(38:40):
I don't, but I think you'll get in the Hall
of Fame. But like, look I'm I'm I'm a Hall
of Fame curmudgeon anyway, Like I don't think Kurt I
love Kurt Warner is a friend of mine, and I
have a hard time putting Kurt Warner in the Hall
of Fame and my my logic and I God told
him this to his face when he's like, explain this
to me, I was like, look, you five years where

(39:02):
you weren't a starting quarterback like you you had bad
years and he's like, well, there's injuries, and I was like, yeah,
they're also outdoors, play indoors and you get an opportunity
playing with Hall of famers and you were great. Um,
but Kurt had. The peaks of Kurt were better than
the peaks of Eli. How many years does Eli manning?
You have to play where he doesn't make the playoffs

(39:23):
and you know when year they made the playoffs on
the Super Bowl as a wild card. So, um, I
don't think he should be, but I think he will be.
Speaking of quarterbacks, here's Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson describing his
performance this week during O t a S coming in.
I didn't know. I didn't know we would have a
totally different offense. But I started off, you know, just
my fundamental for work and stuff like that, my mechanics

(39:44):
and when I got a head of course with that, Yeah,
we have told a new system. Um, we'll have to
go through this and that, and it's been getting a
limb of it. Let me give you Jackson's numbers for
last season and seven regular season games, fifty percent completion
percage and a hundred seventy one yards per game. Do
you think he'll have better numbers. In No, I don't
think he's accurate enough to be a long term starting

(40:05):
quarterback in the NFL. Um And look, I think they're
gonna try and go all in on his style and
let him throw the ball deep downfield the Hollywood Brown
to open up open up the defense. But he's so
inaccurate and you know, intermediate underneath throws. I just I
don't see it. This is game time on the Duck
Godlib Show. I reserve the right to be wrong, but

(40:30):
I don't know that got exposed in the playoffs once
people they like, we've seen this before, Vince Young and
r G three and Tim Tebow. He's better than Tebow.
He's probably better than Vince Young, a better athlete. Um,
but he just can be so inaccurate. But a freak athlete.
And obviously they're gonna have to figure out way to

(40:51):
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(41:40):
NBA teams. Right before the show, the All NBA teams
were announced, and most people's reaction was to the reaction
of Clay Thompson. Guys, if you queue that up for
me that that'd be great. Um. That's because you know,
Clay Thompson had a had an interesting way of kind

(42:01):
of showing that he wasn't necessarily upset, felt like he
was disappointed. This is Clay Thompson when being informed during
an interview about the All NBA teams. I mean, that's
cool and all, but like when you go to five
straight finals, I respect those guys, but wholly, when you

(42:22):
go to five straight I mean it takes morning. Just
a couple of r NBA guys say all the time
team but whatever, that's not I'd rather want a championship
and the third team r NBA, so it's all do
not like that that that effects potential contract status? Is
all NBA though, because that would have elevated Yeah, that's

(42:43):
it is what it is. You know, I can't control it. Uh,
but I think there's how many guards better than the
end league. But that's the reason why we're still playing.
So I don't even want to get into it, honestly,
And I mean you can hear the disappointment and some
of the anger in his voice, and um, it's a

(43:06):
flawed process. I do believe All Defensive team could also
make him into a super Max guy, but it's gonna
cost him thirty million dollars of a life of his
new contract. But is it thirty million dollars? You're actually
gonna it's more of an ego thing to be a
super Max guy. Let's let's let's first begin with something
that is not discussed enough and discussed some with Rick Puker.

(43:27):
This is a massive oversight by the NBA p A
and maybe it maybe it's a maybe the oversight was
intentional because there's there's two or three flaws to it. First,
the all NBA teams have a you have to have
voted for a center. Well, that's just dumb. It's just dumb.

(43:51):
Not just that a lot of teams play without a
center for a good portion of the games, but like,
that's not the idea of it, and the idea of
it is, and you know, the idea of it is
who are the fifteen best players? And when you're in
a league which plays kind of position list, although there
are traditional centers, you don't have to necessarily haven't mandated

(44:14):
that you pick a center for each of the three teams,
because are you gonna really pick Rudy Gobert, who's only
a defensive player. And by the way, Rudy Gobert is
all defensive team a certain number of years. He's actually
eligible for the super Max, which is kind of laughable.
I love Rudy. I think Rudy Gobert is tremendous at
what he does, but he's not one of the fifteen
best players in the league, I don't think. I also

(44:37):
think that Clay Thompson's is a little a little off.
In the five straight NBA finals, Well, Lebron didn't need
multiple NBA All NBA guys, And we don't judge it
based upon the regular season, but the postseason only based
upon the regular season. But if you're gonna put Clay
Thompson on who you can take off, Kemba Walker is

(44:59):
the guy that probably jumps out to most people, but
to me, Lebron James the one that that jumps out
off the screen, right. I mean to think about this,
Lebron James only played in fifty five games, So in
terms of availability, that's not good enough. It's just not
and that would keep him regardless of the other points

(45:21):
I'm gonna point out, just Lebron James, if you playing
fifty five games should eliminate him from consideration for first
and second team All NBA. And so he's third team
All NBA. And even then you're like, really and he was.
They were twenty eight and twenty seven when he played

(45:44):
this year. So this idea that Lebron well, you know,
and he played the whole year, Like dude, the time
he did play, they had wins and twenty seven losses.
And if you want to say that he's not responsible
for their losses, that's okay, you can do that. I mean,
you know, by the way, in wins, eight eight point

(46:06):
nine rebounds and losses eight rebounds. You know, the assists
actually more assists in losses than a point eight point
four to eight point one. The biggest dip is a
field goal percentage five percentage points lower and three point
percentage nine percentage points lower nine point four and losses

(46:26):
thirty eight point four and wins. But Lebron had a
terrible year from the free throw line. He shot sixty
six point five. That's the lowest since he's been a
VET in the league, and that affected much of his game.
He had a bad year defensively, it's one of the
reasons that they lost. And frankly, he didn't play a

(46:49):
third of the season. There is no real argument other
than well he's Lebron James, that he should be a
All NBA player. Sure, he averaged on the eight point
five points a game when they won, twenty six point
five points a game when they lost. You have twenty
seven points eight and a half assists, eight point three,

(47:10):
eight point five rebounds, eight point three assists. So if
you solely want to go based upon stats and name,
you go like okay, But they were a five hundred
team with him. He didn't play a third of the
year and by anybody's estimation, probably his worst year defensively
in years. Didn't shoot the ball well from the free

(47:31):
through line. Like we're picking on Kemba Walker because his
team didn't make the playoffs. Why aren't we picking on
Lebron James. Why does he belong on on the All
NBA team when he didn't play in in the NBA
for a third of the season. Right, like Kemba if
you simply want to go by stats, simply want to

(47:53):
go by stats, Kemba average two points less a game.
Four he bounds less the game to assist less the game.
Those are substantial um and his numbers are similar field
goal percentages better in wins, worse in losses. He he

(48:14):
averaged more assists. All his numbers were better like his teams,
and they were thirty nine and forty three. But Kemba
Walker played all eighty two games. There is something of
value if you have to if you only have to
load up and play fifty five games. In grants, some
of it was injury, but also remember like they were
resting him at at various times in the year resting Lebron,
they didn't rest Kemba Walker. Your stats aren't going to

(48:35):
be as good now did Kemba fade out a little bit?
Truth is he actually averaged more points a game post
All Star than he did pre All Star Game. I
mean really started to tire in March. He had a
bad month of March after having unbelievable October. And I
think the biggest flaw in the voting was we took
the first half of the season. That's that's what we did.

(48:56):
We took or the first you know, that's when we
started paying attention because Paul George should have been First
Team All NBA ahead of Kevin Ryan. Paul George was
great early in the year and then it wasn't as
great late in the year. Clay struggled in the first
part of the year. Like we made our determination as
to who should be All NBA in October and November.

(49:17):
And to Clay's argument, what are we doing a right
like May and June is when we should make our
arguments as to who are the best players on the planet?
Would you would you make the argument right now that
Clay Thompson and Paul George and Paul George had a
very good year, especially if you take you know, in
the first half the year but wasn't great in the playoffs.
And you'd say, well, well he was banged up. Okay,

(49:40):
totally fair, totally fair, he's banged up. You know, Paul
George had a spectacular start to the season. His December
was really insane, his February was ridiculous, his March, his April,

(50:03):
and some of it was he's playing hurt. But again,
he played. At least he played seventies seven games. Lebron
played fifty five games. They just gave a participation trophy, Like, hey,
Lebron did play this season. His team didn't win, he
didn't play defense, he couldn't make a free throw. Let's
give him an All NBA. Like he wasn't a top
fifteen player this year in the league, because don't you

(50:24):
have to play most of the season. Like it feels
like there should be a seven year, seventy five game
cut off, right, And if you want to say, well,
they need to make the playoffs because he was hurt
at the time, he was out when he played, they
were twenty eight wins twenty seven losses. It's not really

(50:45):
an argument outside of he scored a bunch of points,
he handled the ball lot, He's Lebron James. That means
he could be an All NBA player this year if
you want to get grandfather him in Hey, anytime, he
averaged over twenty eight points a game. Him he made
last you know, that's kind of the Clay Thompson he
made the last eight NBA finals. He belongs in Okay?

(51:05):
How come he didn't more greatly more positively affect the Lakers.
NBA champion Eddie House joins the show up coming next.
What does he think of the All NBA teams whose
oversight was It feels like the union, like the unions
should have stepped into like, hey, we want to all
NBA teams find players have to have the vote, or
let's not based upon that. Let's find figure out a

(51:26):
different way to do it. Let teams determine who can
super max. I don't know however you want to do it,
but this is on the union. They signed off on
a deal that said A A awards that are voted
on by the media are gonna add up to determine
who can make the most money in this league. Also,
does he think the Lakers can land a big free agent?

(51:48):
And what's gone so wrong for the Bucks after leading
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more confident car buying experience. He's an NBA champion, He's
a friend of the show. He's a guy who loves
dog ball like we do. Eddie House joins us Doug
Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio and let's let's start with
bucks rap Bucks trapping side. We have a little connection
issues with with Eddie House. Um, this is the first

(52:52):
weekend of summer, right, ramis you got big Memorial Day plans.
You guys are getting ready, getting ready to the baby bay.
He's got to be getting cleared. Babies coming mooral days here.
And I will be right here at the fox Worth
Radio studios on Monday working on the weekend. I'm not
working on the weekend, but on Monday, I will be
here working hard. That sounds like you're complaining. I'm not complaining, No,

(53:17):
but I have the right to ask for it. Off
I choose not to, so I do to listen. Um,
I'm doing Dan Patrick on Monday, and I actually this
is Scott Shapiro. I'd say God is my witness, but
Scot Shapiro's my witness. I said, like, hey, I would
do Monday afternoon like we already. I think, is Jonas
filling in? Jonas and buy are filling in. They do

(53:38):
a great job. Some people like them better than me,
so that's cool. Um I it's a huge day like
today and then Monday, everybody's in their car going places,
going to lake, going to river on the beach, going
to the mountains, wherever you're going. And so I'm with you, like,
you know, now do you get time and a half
for you? This? You just time and time and a
half sounds good, Yes, time and a half. I like

(53:59):
that than negotiating with you, Doug. I was asking you
know what time to half sounds good? Thanks Doug. I
mean I listened and I representative dog. You stood up
and set stuff for me to the management saying, you know,
more money I have put my foot you have. I said,

(54:21):
you paid John more money? And then or else what
I said, or else you pay John more money. That's
that's exactly what I said. It's a very strong stance
with a lot of leverage. I said, you paid John
more money, or we will find a homeless person off
the street who can do a better job at a
lower price than than John Rabos. That's what. That's exactly what.
No one defends the honor of John Ramos. Uh better

(54:46):
than me. Uh stug gallum show where we are. We are.
We are efforty to get us some Eddie house. But
I saw this from Brian Windhorst that said Lebron James
the recruiter and Kyrie Irving is now considering considering joining

(55:06):
the Lakers. Now here here's the important thing. That doesn't
mean he's going to but it ain't a bad fallback
option for Kyrie Irving right, like this whole thing, and
and this is where old takes exposed, right, That's that's

(55:27):
the Twitter hand. Old takes exposed. Old takes suppose makes
a living out of people saying this will never happen
that And I'm I've been, I've I've had some takes
which turned out to be freezing cold takes that were
hot takes at some point by some people's estimation. I
was told middle of the year, no chance, you know,
when he said he loves no problem playing with Lebron.

(55:49):
It's all that other stuff. But that was before he
basically lost the team, the Boston Celtics. And then you're
sitting there going like, well, does Katie really want Kyrie?
Maybe he wants Kembo's a New York guy and seen
as a quieter or less ego like Kembos a baller.

(56:11):
Kami just wants to play basketball and from New York.
I love him um. Or maybe it's just that you
don't want to play for that owner or they don't
want to build it from scratch, whereas he knows what
is going to get from Lakers. And the truth is
that if you can, if you can kind of smartly
navigate the Lebron thing. Lebron's three years from retirement. Maybe

(56:33):
he plays post three years to play with Brownie, and
maybe he doesn't, and the Lakers become your team. So
the idea that is people do change your mind and
situations cause you to change your mind. You know, I'll
give you the example. When I was at ESPN, this

(56:56):
is seven years ago. It's around this time time I
was negotiating and at the time, Colin had just resigned
a long term deal, and I think Van Pelt was
doing radio then he had signed a long term deal,
and Mike and might Get resigned a long term deal.

(57:16):
So they offered me a long term deal this very
same radio spot. And my my objection was over, like,
where's my upward mobility? Right the the earlier time slots
can be more financially profitable. And I respect all three
of those guys, they were all really good, really good,

(57:38):
but I couldn't, you know, like I'm I was, and
and frankly, I'm in a little bit the same place,
but living a better part of the country, closer to home,
family and growing across. You know, what I think is
an I heeart brand, which is I think a bigger,
better radio brand, and now we have an even better
lineup with Clay and the Dan and into Colin and

(57:59):
to me into you know, Jonas and r J into
the odd couple, Like this is the best line up
in sports radio. But I remember like at the time,
so had you asked me six months before, like, hey,
if they offered you this much money and this many years,
would you take it? I said yeah, And then like
this much money in this many years, but you're not
gonna the other guys signed the same length of time.

(58:21):
I just didn't feel like there was upper mobility. So
Kyrie Irving's perspective, if you would asked him at the
start of the year, hey, do you want to come
back to Boston's like, dude, we got Jayson Tatum and
a rookie deal, Samal Brown, I mean Jaylen Brown and
rookie deal. You're playing for Brad Stevens, Like what could

(58:43):
what could go wrong? And then you live through a
year and suddenly now you're like, man, that Boston thing
that that ain't it for me. They didn't love me.
I don't necessarily fit in with Brad. The New York
thing like that. There's a lot of hope in the
New York thing. The Brooklyn thing sounds good, but it's
still the Nets, not the Knicks. And then it doesn't

(59:04):
mean he's gonna gonna go to the Lakers. But at
least he knows. No one knows better how to navigate
the Lebron thing than a guy who's navigating and succeeded
with the Lebron thing. Eddie House joins us in the
Doug Otli Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, do you
think Kyrie is kind of warming to the idea of
the Lakers? Uh? I mean he has to be. I

(59:28):
think for these he understands that he can't do it
on his own. So it's mandatory that he figure out
where who he has to pair himself with. And why
not Lebron. You know it's been successful. You know when
your time to sign is and when you play off
Lebron and when Lebron plays off of you. If you

(59:49):
were advising Kyrie, what would you advise them to do?
I would advise him two, don't make an impulsive statement.
It's just let this play out. Don't talk to the media,
don't put anything on social media. Think this out at
whatever you do, make sure this is what you want

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to do moving forward, because right now he seems really flaky,
like he says one thing and then he does another thing.
I'm gonna be in Boston forever now, I'm not sure.
So that's what I would advise him to do. Yeah,
but if you're gonna advise him where to go, which
where would you advise the where to go? Well, I
would tell him go, well, why not go to the Lakers?
You know it's proven, you know you know that works.

(01:00:29):
You know that the dynamic with you and Lebron works.
You guys have got it done before. You guys have
been in big games, big moments, uh and and the
system is conducive to both of you guys. So I
would definitely say the Lakers is a great place for Milan.
Doug gotlive show here on Fox Sports Tradio. What happened
to the Bucks? What's changed so much? Two games they're
up to none. Uh, they complete control of the series.

(01:00:50):
They go back to Toronto? What changed? Well? What changes?
Kawhi Leonard be a Kahire Leonard. He This is the
reason why I was asked by on the Odd Couple
Show Rob Park Chris Buzard, who would I take Janice
or Kauai. And I picked Kauai because I think Kauai
can stifle Janice and Janice cannot stifle kywee uh Kauai.

(01:01:11):
So I think, uh, that's what happens. Kauai has just
been taken over this and and also they've been getting
help from their role players. You know, Kyle Lowry had
a great game in Game five, and that's what they need.
I think if you look at their matchup paper paper
to paper, I think they have more favorable matchup for
the Toronto Raptors who can win their matchups, and Milwaukee
can win their matchups. And if Nana is not really

(01:01:32):
going like that and he's struggling and he's kicking the
ball to other guys, they're not making plays, They're gonna
struggle to win games. Yeah, and and and and like, look,
Kauai is not a great passer, but he has shown
willingness to pass when double in the series. And it
wasn't until the last three games they started making shots.
And that's why the assist numbers are so up. Exactly.
I mean, what you that's the one thing you have
to you have to make the pass. To rely on

(01:01:54):
your role players to make to make shots. So the
double teams is not so often. They're still gonna come,
but they can't as often as they are where you're
the playmaker and putting the ball in the hands of
somebody else. I always would like the superstar to be
receiving the past with the option to do whatever he
wants to do with it instead of only option is
passing the basketball Eddie guest in the doug out Lips

(01:02:14):
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, all right, let's let's
say it's the Raptors. Who do you like and if
if they don't have Kevin Durant and they don't have
DeMarcus Cousins, how much does that change the series? I
don't think it's of course, you know, we're not having
those two guys. It's crazy, you know, to say that
they want there there. There wouldn't be a better team

(01:02:36):
with with those guys on here. So but with that
being said, this is the same chord has already won.
So I think that they'll be able to go in
and get it done. I mean with or without k
D or Brookie Cousins. I think they still or will
be the better team because just look out, they played
the game I mean, it's a real beautiful brand of
basketball to watch. The ball hops around, bodies, moves. Um.
Guys are setting back screens, flare screens pinned down there.

(01:03:00):
Their role players are setting hard screening, rolling hard to
the rolling hard to the basket, and they're doing their
job defensively. Loney is not a fantastic stop blocker, but
he's a great shot autor alterer, so he makes he
makes guys start sanger shouts at the rim, and that's
all you need him to do. Guys are buying into
their roles. So I don't think that there's a team
out there that could beat the Warriors with kyd or

(01:03:22):
Bookie cut or without Eddie House our guests on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Let's let's go back to the Lakers.
If not Kyrie, who else could they get? Considering like
they didn't hire tylu so they hire Vogel, who's a
good coach, but there's not a lot of fanfare to it.
And then you have the Magic Johnson thing. We're really
paying the pictures a dysfunctional kind of group there with

(01:03:45):
the Lakers, who else could they get if they don't
get Kyrie? Uh Clay Thompson if the Warriors aren't able
to get him to come back. I think Clay Thompson
would be a good fear with Lebron as well, because
he's a guy that could spot up but also take
it off the dribble Eddie the two way player, so
he can go guard the best player on the opposite
team and and they can and then if Lebron wants

(01:04:06):
to guard him in search, he can't do that. I
think that would be a nice, nice piece to add
if if you could add him to the to the Lakers.
It just doesn't feel though that he's a he's into
it right for whatever, like he should be. He grew
up in southern California. He played great off of Lebron.
You know, his dad's the Lakers color commentator. But it
just doesn't feel like he's into it. Just feels like

(01:04:27):
he's like, I'm good, Katie leaves and he stays like
it just feels like he's good, you know what, And
he's right, he's in. He's smart to be good when
it is great. Why would you go anywhere when you
have the best thing going. I mean, that's why I
feel about the k D situation. If you are chasing
to be the best or or the goat. A people
always say, you know, if you're chasing the goat, the

(01:04:48):
only way to do that is the Stack Championships. I
don't care how you do it. If you do it unprecedented,
like win four straight. You know, they win the third
one this year and they go for a fourth one
and they get it. We haven't seen that in our lifetime,
so that something that nobody has done, and then you
have a chance to try to get a fifthness. So
to me, I think it's it's kind of insane if
t D wanted to leave because it's a great thing

(01:05:09):
for him because he's happy where he's at and they're winning.
I think the big question is he is he happy
where he is? You know? Is he happy? Uh? That's
the that's the big thing. Is he happy? And will
you ever find true like does he understand that? I'm
not sure you can be true totally happy wherever you go. Yeah,
that's the that's a true statement right there. But I
think he is happy where he's at. I just think

(01:05:30):
it's the outside interference that he's listening to. The some
people saying, oh, well, you have to go somewhere else.
Because you piggy back off a golden State. Everybody that
understands basketball that he didn't piggy back off golden say.
He just made them better. And and that's what organizations
can do. If you have the opportunity to build a
super team, then you will build one. And they did
it through the draft and free agency the right way.

(01:05:52):
So I just think it's a perfect place. It's not
their fault or his fault that he had the opportunity
did go there free agency, and that to god to
state boards had the money to pay him. So I
just think it would be crazy, And I think he
is happy. He's just listened to the outside interference that
are are and and and people that are talking about
it is punishing his legacy. The legacy is built on

(01:06:15):
winning and that's it. Yeah, he won an m v
P and then he won two finals m v P s.
I'm I'm with you, I'm good. I don't I don't
understand this idea of why would you like, Hey, you
guys build your own super teams to try and beat us.
We already we already have one. But the only way
we'll know exactly what he's thinking is what he does
in the off season that we just have to wait
about another month for Eddie. Great stuff. Thanks for joining us.

(01:06:37):
We'll talk soon anytime. May have a good weekend. That's
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Can you chug a beer to sitting? Yes? Faster than
Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, okay, look I'm gonna I'm gonna give

(01:09:15):
Aaron Rodgers a bit of a and Aaron Rodgers has
played a long nice so I can't give him a
pass that wasn't even a full beer. Hold on, I mean, like,
let's discuss this man like man gascon like. I get
that we embraced debate a little bit here. Let's let's
get to it. People have and I think we let's
never assume, right, that's rule number one radio, never assume.
So last night at the bucks came they go to

(01:09:37):
David beck A, who's a lineman for the packers, and
he's done this before, and he chugs two beers, chugs
two beers like bam, hold on one two like it's
a sit like it's a like it was shot glass, right,
those things went down, Those things down down quick quick.

(01:09:57):
Um you saw this one, Gascon? Correct? Uh music, did
you see it? Now? Then they then he kind of
points to Aaron Rodgers, who now he's like put on
the spot. He goes down, picks up his beer. Remember
this is in Milwaukee. This is a brewtown America, right,
and he did. He starts to drink his beer, although

(01:10:19):
he's clearly not you know, he's like he's like multiple
SIPs in one sipping whatever, not necessarily pounding it. And
he does not get it all down, does not get
it all down. He proceeds it later on the night
tweet out next time we'll do Scotch. It is true
that I've had Aaron Rodgers some before. He can go
on and on talking about Scotch. He's not a beer guy.

(01:10:41):
But I thought his beer was much larger then back
TRS beer. I felt like he had a big boy
beer and back dr had to like twelve ouncers. Do
you disagree, Gascon? Do you think maybe it's because the
dimensions of Baktr compared to Aaron Rodgers that it looks bigger.
It's possible. I just, I just, I mean, those guys

(01:11:05):
are are obviously wealthy. Why would you pay for a
small beer when you know even a small beer probably
costs like twelve dollars? There, Well, David Backtr looks like
he he paid for his beer, whereas if you watch
this Aaron Rodgers thing, people just send him beers. There's
just it's just different there, right, Which is which is
always interesting, always interesting, because um, the guy who can

(01:11:28):
afford to buy everybody in the building a beer is
the guy get in the beer for free. Whereas the
guy who you know, frankly could you know, could use
a little bit a little help here, uh has to
buy his own beer. What's the Christian yellowch angle to it?
I forget what Christian yellow is? Right next to him,
next to boxtr, And he was drinking beer too, So
he stood up and he actually like turned his back

(01:11:49):
to the court and looked at the crowd while he
was drinking his beer. He pound his beer. Then Matt
Stafford of course was watching the game, and he pounded
a beer and all of a sudden Aaron Rodgers doesn't
pound a beer? So you can pound how big a beer? Like? Now?
When you pound? When you last time you pounded a beer,
did you do the can thing where you cut it

(01:12:10):
open and then you shot gun the beer? Last time
I pounded a beer, I was stuck playing a game
called Edward forty hands? What is Edward forty hands? Basically
were someone tapes a forty to your hand and you
can't go to the restroom until you pound that entire
forty and you drink a forty wasn't good? Wait? How

(01:12:32):
long was this? It was a couple of years ago
to Batchelor party. How how old are you? I just
I haven't. I haven't gone that strong and so long?
Um music? Was the last time you pounded a beer? Honestly?
I think I think longer than than gascon. I probably college,

(01:12:54):
So that would be five years ago. Five years ago
you you pounded a beer? Are you good pounding? Like?
I think I could do it. I think I could
do it like on command, Like if somebody goes, like,
pound that beer like I couldn't. It was and it
was cold. I could I actually like a good I
can pound a good cold beer, but it's not something
I'm great at. Yeah, I would be more Aaron Rodgers

(01:13:15):
than David Box. I would. I would, I would too,
But you wouldn't be polite about it, right, like you
would try to chug it. I felt like Rogers was
trying to be too careful, like you didn't want to
spill it sitting courtside. What do you want courtside? And
he's Aaron. He's Aaron Rodgers, like right, Like if you're
if you're David Backs Jari and you spit up all
over your stuff, They're like, ah, he's an offensive lineman.
Who cares if Aaron Rodgers Like, dude, I mean even

(01:13:37):
now he doesn't pound a beer somehow that's an attack
on his manhood. But you do have to pound that beer, sorry, dude,
Like you gotta. You gotta find a way. And if
you don't pound that beer, you've gotta order another one,
and you gotta pound that one, right. I love I
love that Milwaukee is a you know, small enough town
to where these guys can yell at, can come to

(01:13:57):
the game, back to the yard and come of the game.
And Aaron just coming to come to the game. What
is he a minority owner in the bus is he
does he have a little steak in it last night? Yeah,
he's a little minority. I mean he's all in on
the Bucks, like you know, you follow him on on
social media, like he's in on games and he watches
games and he's a huge hoop head. He's got his own.

(01:14:17):
If we had him on, he would have his own
opinion on what went wrong for the Bucks last night.
But I think it's I think it's it's a very
American That's a very that does not happen anywhere else.
There's no else, no place on now. They like their
I played in Russia, they like their piva, they like
their beer there. They like beer in other places. But
the idea of pounding a beer courtside and somehow it's
your men, that's a very American thing, very Milwaukee thing.

(01:14:38):
I loved it, every second of it. Who doesn't love
David beck Yard. And there's a guy who's, uh, you know,
he's like half Irany and half Icelandic. Right, But I
got one question for you. Didn't Tom Brady actually down
a beer on a late night show? He did, but
it was like a glass of beer and was it
felt like it was like six to eight ounces, whereas like,

(01:14:59):
look at the side, is a Aaron Rodgers cup. Aaron
Rogers is huge hands. That's a big cup of beer
he's drinking. If okay, here's one gascon. If you go
to a bar and somebody says, I'm buying you a shot,
what's your shot? I'll do jack Jack, give me a
shot of jack, all right? That that is a very
manly shot. I don't know what what isn't manly? That

(01:15:21):
one is the buttery nipple would not be a big
manly shot. What about you music? If you somebody's gonna
buy you a shot fireball, some bourbon or something. A
shot of bourbon, A shot of bourbon, hm, John almost

(01:15:42):
is like probably fireball or tequila rum ramos? Do you take?
You take shots? Is an easy one? It doesn't an
easy one. I took a shot at tequila in the
time of my good friends bachelor party. Unfortunately it wasn't
the little glass they give you, which I didn't know.
It was like a big like a cup of it.
And I did. I thought, that's what you say down
the whole thing. Uh, let's just say it wasn't good

(01:16:04):
after How's that did you scream at the porcelain. God
did you tell? Nick Write says that I'll give you
my I got a great I got a great tequila
shot story for You'll share with you a couple of them.
Actually uh and coming up next, Nick Write says Clay
Thompson reminds him of a lake or great. Find out
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This is about Nick. Right on First Things, First Morning
Show on Fox Sports One said about Clay Thompson and

(01:17:34):
who he reminds Nick of this thing with Clay Thompson,
there's to me a player that everyone knows an NBA
history that's similar to him, not stylistically, but in the
great unknown, and that players James Worthy, and that is
I don't know if Clay is the luckiest guy in
modern NBA or the unluckiest guy, And by that I
mean I don't know, and we won't know as long

(01:17:57):
as he's on this team. If Clay is in the
perfect role to maximize everything he can do, and if
he was asked to go be Keimba Walker, he would
fail that's possible, Like, hey, because he's not great dribbler,
he's neither. There are parts of his game that appear
to have major holes. And he never has to go
into a game where he is the opposition's number one
threat that you are never scheming to stop. Clay Thompson's

(01:18:21):
your primary threat or is it is he unlucky in that? Oh,
he could do all these things. He could be a
thirty pointed game guy and just doesn't have the opportunity.
We don't know that. We didn't know that about James
Worthy either. Yeah, we we do. We do do this
thing where we're like, who's the primary threat? Like that's

(01:18:42):
not really how scattered reports read, especially when you play
the Golden State Warriors, right, Like, he is a guy
who can win a game almost single handedly. And if
you think that anybody goes into a game not aware
of the fact that you can never leave Clay Thompson,
never leave Clay Thompson, then you're unaware of how scattering

(01:19:05):
reports read. You have to understand that though he doesn't
dribble a lot, when he does, he can be very
effective with it. Though he doesn't pass a ton to
create assists when he does, you can be very effective
with it. And then there's the other aspect to it,
which he's an elite defender. Look, the sport has changed.
I understand what Nick saying, and I'm not disputing a
lot of what he's getting at, which is will never

(01:19:25):
know and we barely know how good Scottie Pippen was.
We just do Baily barely now. He was a great defender,
a great all around player who became a pretty good
shot maker. And he had a great year the first
year that that uh that Michael went to play baseball.
Not as good a year the second year. But that's
sorry the point I understand what he's saying. I think

(01:19:47):
it's really important that we point out the sport is
completely different than it was five years ago. It's a drum.
It's night and day from ten years ago, and it
might as well you might as well consider it something
off the moon in the moon compared to what it
was twenty years ago, you know, I mean, just it's

(01:20:09):
not the same, nothing like it. You know, you play
barely with the big guy. The big guy plays gotta
be able to defend the rim or stretch the floor
and hit shots. You know, you can't hand check. Just
it's just so you can play zone. You couldn't play
zone before, Like it's just a different sport. So, um,

(01:20:29):
I think that's what makes the preparation for teams did
different than it was back then. You know, you used
to be able to throw it to Michael Jordan's clear
out of side, but you're still always in basketball, there's
a skudding report on each guy, each starter. Especially when
Clay Thompson averages over twenty a game, it's not like
you're not doing your due diligence. I do think that

(01:20:50):
undersells exactly how effective he's been. On the other hand,
this would help him out. James Worthy Hall of Famer
known as Big Game James, and Clay Thompson has been
a guy who's bailed of Warriors out in big games
in the past, And I do see the parallel. Doug
Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, I would. I

(01:21:10):
think tequila is the most manly shot that I could
I would take, and I could take and feel fine
about it. It's not for everybody. My wife does not
like tequila. I do. And you know, you feel like
like you can't order like some sort of soft you know,
there are other shots with more clever names. I wouldn't
do the Three Wise Men though, that's that's a little

(01:21:32):
bit too much. But tequila would be my shot of choice.
And I can pound a beer. I just don't love
pounding a beer. But it's an ice cold beer in
a hot day. That's a different story, all right. A
very valuable lesson learned by the Bucks through the last
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(01:23:20):
games and none lead, which they were dominant the first
two games, coming from behind in Game one and then
leading basically tip to finish in game two. I watched
them lose at home, and between Janice's struggles with the
free throw line and shooting the basketball in general, and
the rest of the team suddenly playing tight and a
little bit lost in key situations. Even Mike Budenholzer, who's

(01:23:40):
a very good coach, accomplished and he's been on the
bench as an assistant coach with the Spurs them win
a championship, but hasn't done it to this level himself.
They look like guys that hadn't been there before, as
opposed to the Raptors. Raptors have been to this place
but failed before. They brought in a quired Leonard who
has been to this place and one before, and then
one in NBA Championship and been the finals MVP. And

(01:24:04):
you had Danny Green, who again same type of thing,
been here before. So they didn't freak out after two
games losing streaks. They got home and got a couple
of wins and then they understood how to execute and
came around and started making shots. Take a listen to
Kawai Leonard on how he deals with pressure. I pretty
much trying to stay with the consistent mindset throughout the

(01:24:24):
whole game, you know, just trying to read the defense
throughout the entire games. He was working and like you said,
you told me tonight and go get it, and I'm not.
I'm not afraid at the moment um. I enjoy it.
And you know, this was what I work out for
in this summer. Yeah, listen, there's a certain in golf.
They call it a flatliner, right where your pulse never

(01:24:46):
goes up and never goes down. And some guys just
have that ability, and Kauai does seem to have that ability,
but but it's it's it's also helped by the fact
that he's done it before. You know, Like everybody talks
about like I just wanted to maintain in a solid
mentality and stable and YadA, YadA YadA. I want to

(01:25:07):
act like you've been there before. He's actually been there before.
He's actually won these games. He's actually one NBA Championship
against Lebron James And like you know, in your mindset,
you're like, if I can be better than Lebron in
the NBA finals, that can be better than Janice in
his first Eastern Conference finals, right, doesn't doesn't. This is

(01:25:28):
what you this is what you brought him in for.
This is what you move mountains forward. This is why
you gave up on DeMar de Rosen. You've given a
he said he never leaving. Do you know we could
get Kawhi Leonard experience is an unbelievable teacher. And as
the saying goes, the test comes first, a lesson comes later.

(01:25:50):
It feels like if Milwaukee gets dusted out of the
playoffs after having a two games to unlead, they will
catch their breath and go, what what what happened to us?
What happened? Heck, this happened to the Dallas Mavericks in
the NBA Finals when Dwyane Wade won a championship. Remember that, now,
Dwyane Wade got to the free the line of ton

(01:26:11):
that was really when we started to change the NBA,
and you couldn't touch any of these guys that were drivers,
even when they weren't shooters. And that's what happened. And
if you remember, Shaquille O'Neil had one, I think in
Game five he was dominant. He finally he was. It
wasn't great the whole series, but he had one really
good game. But the Mavericks used that, learned from that,

(01:26:32):
and then when they got the heat again, even with
Lebron James, they fell behind in the series and didn't
didn't Waiver, didn't Falter came back in one. Like we've
seen this. Of all the things in the history of
the NBA, we've seen the idea of getting to a point,
learning some lessons, and then climbing to the next step.

(01:26:55):
That's his older tal's time. I think about it. The
Detroit Pistons forever could not get past the Boston Celtics.
Then they did. Celtics got old Bird had a bad back,
and then they did. Then the Chicago Bulls couldn't get
past this, couldn't get past the Pistons. Then they did.

(01:27:21):
You know, the Jazz could never figure out the Lakers.
They only got to the finals when the Lakers had
to revamp things and got super super young. But there
was a they would hit the hit the ceiling, you know,
they would hit that ceiling and then that would be

(01:27:41):
it for them. And the Lakers with Kobe and Shack,
how many times did they lose early? You start to
kind of figure it out. Granted, they change coaches, which
is what the Toronto Raptors have done, so I could
get more into X and O's and some of the
adjustments that have been made, and the fact that you
got guys like Fred van Bleet dealing with little or
no sleep at the birth of his second child hitting

(01:28:03):
shots when before when he was sleeping, well, he wasn't
making shots like we could. We could get into all that,
but one team looks like a team that has been
to this place before and has a best player who's
been past this place before, and the other team looks
like the Bucks. Lebron had to learn, you know, got

(01:28:23):
to the finals against the Spurs. Then eventually he they
tried to fix things and he got worse than he
leaves and goes to Miami. They get to the NBA
Finals against the matt those mavericks I talked about, and
they fail. Then they then they got the Thunder, and
the Thunder advanced beyond really where they should have been
and got to the finals. And they've never been back.

(01:28:45):
But you know, they they've tried to learn, they've tried
to adjust. Maybe they made too many adjustments. Of course,
they trade away James Harden and they've never returned to
those NBA finals. But this is not a news story,
but it's one that's a new experience for the Milwaukee
Bucks and for honest here's johannest on what they need

(01:29:05):
to do in game six. You know, you cannot do
this just another game. It's a must win. Think everybody
knows it, knows it, uh, you know, and you're just
going to go in there and try to do as
much as we can do. Live everything on the court.
You know, make shots, play hard, Uh, give energy and

(01:29:27):
hopefully we can get it. I mean, it's not just
another game. Got to go in there and when come back. Look,
I love the mentality. I mean there's nothing you could
say it's just another game and people would support it.
You could say it's not just another game and people
would support It's honest. People like him. But he's obviously
tight at the free throw line and the team is

(01:29:49):
reacting to it. He's not a natural shooter, and this
is something he's had to kind of learn and improve
on on the fly. And now when being forced, you know,
under pressure. My dad used to call it game slippage.
It's like looking game slippage. You're not gonna shoot as well.
You understand you're not gonna be as accurate with things
that you try and do, and so you have to

(01:30:10):
be as perfect as possible in practice, knowing that a
game and the pressure of the game is going to
is going to change you. There's no better example of
game slippage or of the pressure of the moment slippage
than what we're seeing from you. Honest, Joannice is a
great talent and made himself into a great player, but

(01:30:31):
if he can't euro step by you and get to
the rim, like how effective is he? And Kawhi Leonard
is one of the few players who's able to kind
of bow up against him. And you know, look at
his look at what's happened here in the playoffs of
late when he doesn't have nearly as favorable matchup. You know,
his his three point shooting his way down because he's

(01:30:54):
not a great three point shooter, and that gets exposed
because he's got the slippage. That's it. You know, he's
actually shot the ball in April, he shot it way
above his normal level, way above. But he's a twenty
three point shooter for a reason. And now the sudden
his free throws. The free throws are the best, the

(01:31:16):
easiest way to tell guys under pressure. You know, when
you're normally a seventy shooter and you're shooting sixty five
and shooting air balls, it's kind of affecting you, kind
of affecting you. And he struggled shooting the ball on
the road all season long. Then you add in the pressure,
then you add in the mental and emotional pressure of
the possibility of being eliminated. That's something that's really hard

(01:31:36):
to process, especially the first time you're doing it. Of
course I'm down on the box, but I'm not down
in the bucks long term, just short term. You have
to have experienced it oftentimes to do it, and the
second and third time you start to figure out what
you did wrong the first and second time. We'll check
in in the Bay Area and in Houston. Coming up next,

(01:31:57):
when do we expect to see Kevin Durant? And the
report yesterday of tension between Chris Paul and James Harden
has been shot down by some What's really going on
after the Rockets season ended last week with the Golden
State Warriors beating them in six games. Find out next.
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I love when I need to know something about a
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(01:33:05):
need a guy. I got a guy, got a guy
in Oakland. He's Anthony Slater covers the Warriors for the
Athletic at Anthony B. Slater on on Twitter. Let's let's
start with today and then work our way backwards to
to to yesterday with Clay Thompson, UH and the and

(01:33:29):
the injury announcement. Kevin Rant talked about having Twitter beefs
with people UH and did so earlier today. What exactly
did he say, Anthony, Well, I mean, I just he
he understands every single narrative that surrounds him, including the
people that say, hey, you know you're Kevin Durant. Why
do you talk to people on Twitter? So I just
asked him, why do you pretty simply and He's like,

(01:33:51):
because I'm a human being, I like talking about basketball.
I have a social media account like anybody else, and
one thing, and this is his history whatever he either
injured or the offseason, and he's a lot more bored
because he's not focused on basketball. His social media you know,
activity kind of ramped up, and he was just basically saying, look,
I'm qualified to talk about basketball. If I see something
while I'm on the training table getting my cast kind

(01:34:13):
of worked on, I might respond. And if I respond,
it's it's just like anybody else responding, except for the
fact that obviously it creates more headlines. Um, okay. Is
he bothered by the narrative that the Warriors don't need him? Yes,
I mean he's bothered by any non positive narrative around him.
I think one of the main things. And you know,

(01:34:34):
he had a kind of I put it out there.
I thought it was kind of illuminating. Uh interaction today
where somebody said, hey, how do you think they're playing
without you? He said, how are how we are playing? Basically? Uh,
and he kind of believes that. Uh. People try to
say it's Kevin Duran over here, and it's a Warrior.
They're kind of married a little bit, but it's more
like they're dating um. And you know, I think part

(01:34:56):
of the talk out there that hey, they're better without
him to him is not allowing him. You know, he
feels like it's weird he's sitting there rooting for his team,
but almost in a sense, Uh, it's better for him
at least narrative wise, if they lose about him. So
I think that's what's kind of bothering him most is
is he wants to feel a part of the team,
yet all the conversations are kind of trying to split

(01:35:17):
them up. What about Clay Thompson and the snub, like
it was interesting? His reaction was interesting because he obviously
did as Clay Thompson rolled his eyes, you can read
his body language no matter what what he says. Um,
I mean like, look, this is there is one of
the things to playing with the Warriors is you're not
going to be recognized for your talents, and now financially,

(01:35:40):
he won't be recognized as much for his talents. What
do you think of al Clay handled the news that
you know he received kind of like as everybody's watching, Yeah,
well I was shocking. Didn't know going in. I mean,
I know the results were kind of dropped. I guess,
you know, ninety minutes before he talked to reporters and
they did have a practice. But typically, you know, these
guys are worn going in, you know, if it's a hey,

(01:36:01):
he's not find for this. Hey you know this is news. Hey,
this is the injury updates. He didn't know. I didn't know.
I asked him, and I figured he knew. I asked
it the way like, hey, you know this happened. Uh,
And I think that's what created maybe the more raw
response where he's eye rolling when I said that Kemba
Walker was the guy that made it. Um. But you know, look,
it's to me. I mean, the financial aspect of it

(01:36:23):
is the part. I don't like the fact that because
I think you can very much justify if if we're
just talking about example, as a voter. Uh, he didn't
necessarily have the regular season impact that of Bradley Beale
or Kemba Walker did because the Warriors were watching now
aren't the regular season Warriors. They were a bad defensive
team this year. They floated through the season, they rested
guys sometimes. Um, so I can understand why he wasn't

(01:36:45):
third team. Yet, you know, I don't understand why that.
You know, it shouldn't affect the contract. Uh, these third
team All NBA votes, Whereas look if uh, if both
him and Kema Walker is going into the open market
as they are in the summer, I think teams would
virtu pay Clay Thompson a super Max over Kemba Walker.
But because of this regular season boat that that we
had on third team guards, Uh, it's it's it's flipped. Um,

(01:37:11):
this is interesting. I agree with you. I think it's
a massive oversight by the union, right, Like the the
union strewed this thing up, allowing it to continue, so
the players have nobody to blame but themselves. Is that fair? Yeah? No,
I mean, I mean that's part of it. I guess
there's all these repercussions with you know, Supermax. The Supermax
stuff was actually supposed to make it more likely that
teams were going to keep their superstars, where as we've

(01:37:33):
seen it's kind of uh, you know, its pushed Paul
George away a little bit. It created a situation in
Sacramento where suddenly the Kings had to say, we had
to play DeMarcus Cousins that much money. Now. But I
think we're gonna trade him to New Orleans and that's
kind of changed that situation. So, uh, I guess this
is what happens in every CBA and every lead where
you make these rules wanting to to you know, push

(01:37:53):
things one way, and a lot of times there are
just side effects that you didn't kind of see coming.
And then we have Curry. How does Steph feel about
his success that he's had since Katie has been out?
I mean, good, Um, he had, He's Steph Curry. So
today he was kind of really going to Batford Durant

(01:38:14):
and in some of the narratives about you know, Durant
and then playing better, but you know, he was kind
of you know, it was it was not a great
moment for him in the Rocket series. Remember, you know,
obviously he had the zero point Game six, but even
before that, he was kind of struggling throughout the series.
And there's plenty of people out there kind of saying
he's overrated, trying to uh, you know, nitpick his career,

(01:38:35):
playoff resume. Uh, and he has really kind of put
the bed in any of any of that talk with
what do you go thirty six thirty seven, thirty six
thirty seven In the West Finals and a sweep obviously unbelievable.
Plus minus his off ballwork and everything he does on
that thirty three point second half in Game six. So
he's in a really good place, I think, you know,
health wise, especially now he's going to get this kind

(01:38:56):
of nine day break. I think the finger will be
the left finger that he did k there will be
in a better situation and uh, you know, he but
he's got a tough challenge ahead of him. It's gonna
be you know, muscular backcourts either way, where it's either
gonna be Kyle Lowry or you know, Eric Bledsoe, two
really good defenders. Yeah, I don't. I Also I think
though he's also helped when Katie's out, it forces them

(01:39:16):
to go big more often, and when there's a big guy,
it allows him to find mismatches a little bit more
often than when when they go to the small death
lineup right. That's like one of it's one of the
one of the underrated parts of what what changes when
he's out. Also, they just give him the ball and
the high pick and roll more often because it's just
you know that it's a smart thing to do, whereas

(01:39:36):
it's Kevin Durants around. He's just gonna be more high youthage.
You're gonna do more Durant related sets. Now it's a
bunch of uh, you know, old you know, two thousand
fifteen style him and Draymond Green high pick and roll
and spread it differently. He kind of runs the entire show.
And uh, it's you know, it's it's he's so good
because he's so willing to take a back seat and
willing to do the off ball stuff that a lot

(01:39:57):
of the other superstars, the Westbrooks, the Hardens, they don't
even really you know, how to off ball, cut and
maneuver and be willing to do that. Uh, it affects.
It affects his you know, regular season stats though he
doesn't have the hardened stats, the the um Westbarks. That's
but what we're seeing right now is he can have
those stats if he's kind of just a folk point um.
And then what about Draymond. I know he's lost weight,
but I mean, like what what all of a sudden,

(01:40:19):
now he's back to Draymondivil He's making shots. You know,
he's not arguing as much with the officials, like what
what what the hell has happened to Draymond? What's the playoffs?
You know, it's it's like this every year. Was I
remember writing a story before the last postseason about how
he had a really down year. He was second team
on defense here before. You know, I think everyone would
mostly agree. You know, he's a lot better defensive, playoff

(01:40:41):
defensive player than Rudy Gobert. But in the regular season, Uh,
he wasn't in the defensive Player of the Year vote,
even the top three. They're the last two seasons in
it's because he just kind of it's the same thing
where we were talking about earlier with Clay. He conserved
his energy. He sat a bunch of games. He had
like a turktoe injury, which you know that's a that's
a very painful injury, especially in basketball. You know, you
kind of put shot off a bunch. So he just

(01:41:01):
had a bad season, and uh, you know, he wasn't
in great shape. You know, he started eating a lot
better starting around March, which he does every year. He
goes into like playoffs, you know, geared mode where I
can remember I think we were in Sacramento, uh, and
the game had just ended and he's walking out of
the locker room to go work out, and he's like,
you know, play playoffs are on the on the way,
and it's like, man, if I was coming in the

(01:41:23):
locker room two months ago, you're over there eating a
sandwich right now, you're going to the waiting room to
just you know, pump iron and maybe run a run
a bit longer after the game. So it's just the
guy just focuses up like crazy in the playoffs. And
it's just been his history and that's why he's one
of the best playoff defenders probably ever. It's amazing, right
like for people like I I will bet if you
ask people like, hey, what kind of year to Draymond have? Like, oh,

(01:41:44):
he had a good year, Like dude, average seven points
a game, shot his second lowest three point percentage, you know,
the lowest was his rookie year. Um. You know, he
wasn't nearly as effective defensively, wasn't as good a rebounder,
assists or even out from previous years. And he missed,
you know, of the sixteen games. And yet here he

(01:42:05):
is and he was he I thought he was the
biggest reason they sweat Portland was he was. He's just
a difference maker. Completely difference maker. Yeah, I mean, and
you go back to Christmas, he was a liability to
remember that Christmas game where Lebron hurts the groin, That's
what everyone remembers coming out of that game. But the
Lakers young guys blew the Warriors out in the second
half and Luke Walton played the style of defense where

(01:42:27):
they were just purposely letting Draymond have like twenty feet
of space from three. And he was in such a
bad headspace around then, and then every team started doing
it and again wasn't in shape at the toe, injuries,
had a shoulder, you know, thing that kind of bothered him. Um,
but you know there was always that trust that hey,
when he needs to be there, uh, he would be.
And look, I mean, like you said, he probably was

(01:42:48):
the m v P of that West Finals. And as
we had towards the NBA Finals, which likely won't feature
Durant until at least later in the series, Uh, it's
probably you know who would you say, like the NBA
Finals MVP favorite. I mean think Amon's right there almost
with steps he plays similarly. Last thing, really quickly, what's
what's the status of Andrea Gudala injuries? Last year de
railed him in the playoffs. He's so incredibly important. Obviously,

(01:43:11):
you know didn't play in that last game against the Trailblazers.
What's his health status. He hasn't practiced the last two days,
but that's more precaution, like they don't practice him a
lot during the regular season when he's not even dealing
with anything. Uh. So they they're saying he'll be fine
for game one. Uh, they're going to practice tomorrow. I
assume he probably won't go. Then they're taking Sunday off,
and then they should know by Monday, depending on if

(01:43:33):
this goes East Finals, goes seven or not, who they're playing.
And I think once they start doing prep work, E
would all of will start kind of getting trying to
get back in rhythm. Uh. And I expected him to
not only be out there, but you know he's gonna
be starting at small forward probably, but they ran out
in game one, which means he's got the task of
either Kai or Jana's probably to start. The unbelievable player
with a remarkable career shutting down guys in NBA finals

(01:43:53):
in the past. Anthony Slater covers the Warriors for the
Athletic at Anthony va Slater, Anthony great stuff. Yeah, thanks
for Havy. I got a guy actually, and she's Kelly
ko joined. Kelly ko joins us. He covers the Rockets
for the Athletic at Kelly Ico NBA is his Twitter
handle and Kelly. Yesterday we read a story from Sham

(01:44:15):
Sharania of Stadium and also of the Athletic that said
there's a reported rift between Chris Paul and James Harden. Uh.
This stands back to Game six. After the game, the
two are seen discussing, maybe even arguing, you know, styles
of play and that Chris Paul wanted, you know, throughout
the year to have the ball moving more. You know
this team, You covered this team on a daily basis. Kelly,

(01:44:38):
what do you know about the relationship currently between CP
three and James Harden. Yeah? I would have called it riff.
It was more, you know, true highly competitive guys who
you know the Shames Awards after the game, because the
first thing that went the way the game turned out,
you know, they had a glorious chance to not only
beat the Wards but advance and around out with Game

(01:45:01):
six at home, and I kind of think they kind
of they got caught up in the emotions of everything. Um,
but they're they're very close to talk every day. They
talk about everything. They want to win. And Chris Paul
has played a certain way his whole career, you know,
and when when he came to Houston, you know, there
was a new style that he hadn't been used to

(01:45:23):
but was so effective, which it was the heavy isolation.
And last season him and James would number one and
two and that Iffici just that and this year it
kind of took a step back, you know, it was
injured to shock the clients. So I think you only
expect him to want to go back to some of
the old stuff after he was again like that in
that nature, It's just it's human tendency almost. But I

(01:45:46):
think it was just two guys who got it into
the argument after a game. I don't think there's a
work person. What can they do to add to their
add to their roster. Considering you got those two making
a huge out of money over forty million dollars, and
then you got Clint Capella making a bunch of money. Yeah,
that's a good question. I think going forward this summer,

(01:46:08):
don't want to trim the edges. You know, if you
can't fix the core, which is hard and Paul Propella
that's not going anywhere. You have to add around it.
You need better shooters, you need better defendants for sure.
Um you know, they also have some young guys on
the rosters who can step in the country and contribute.

(01:46:31):
We saw Steve Kurt when Durant went out, he opened
up his rotation put some of the younger guys. I
think the Rocker Stood should do the same. They have
a couple of guys hard to signed Garrett Clark Dale
House that can contribute, but they need, you know, plenty
times and I think they have the mid level. There
are guys out there that they can bring in who

(01:46:53):
are quality three in D wings, you know, quality shooters
that can help and contribute. Because if you think about it,
their season the last two seasons only came down to,
you know, a couple of players here and there against
the waters. So I wouldn't say you need drastic changing,
but you do need some adjudgtment, some tweaks if you
want to get over that kind of hump, because at

(01:47:14):
that point it's a psychological thing more so than X
and os Uh. One of their assistant coaches Roy Rogers
uh and the team that they parted ways earlier today.
Are they gonna change their coaching staff at all? Yeah,
I've heard that those won't be the only changes that could.
That could be more in the in the coming days. Um.

(01:47:35):
And it's understandable if if they're going to stick with coach,
then tell me what's their guy? Um. And I'm just
telling my Prosino wants to, you know, should the hedges
and fixed everything around it, so I wouldn't. I wasn't
surprised at the news today, but there should be more
to come the next time of days. Be really really interesting.

(01:47:55):
I get it the two competitive guys, and I do
think they used pick and roll more with Chris Paul
there in Games five and six, and I think that's effective.
I think the question becomes, is there anybody else could they?
Would they add, you know, the last two years Joe
Johnson two years ago, but they never played in the
playoffs and then Carmelo Anthony didn't make it out of
the first second in the second month with the team,
like it does feel like I know analytics say, don't

(01:48:17):
throw it in the post, but it does feel like
they need a change of pace from what they always
like to do. Yeah, I mean that's fair to say,
you know, um playing awards, they didn't know exactly how
the Rokets played, but said also said an extent on
the other side, Uh, Steve Kurston, I did it particularly
enjoyed the way the series was going because they were

(01:48:38):
forced to play heavy isolation during um and the mismatches
and the switches. So yes, isolation basketball might not be
a side you know that everyone wants to see, but
it is effected and if you use it to a
good enother, it can make your opponent play the same way.

(01:48:58):
And that was what was keeping the serious close because
you know, everyone knows if the Warriors play let off
that basketball shot, but it's game over. But if you
force into hump for isolations, humph for the mismatch every
time you have a chance. So I think going forward, yeah,
they could have a post presence. You know, there are
those things up a bit um, but at the end

(01:49:21):
of the day, you want to follow in your best
player's hand. And that's kind of what the system that
the Rockets used in tales. That's the voice of Kelly I.
Coo covers the Rockets for the Athletic follow them on
Twitter at Kelly k E L L y I co
is I K O n b A Kelly, great stuff,
thanks for joining us. Alright, so you needed a guy,

(01:49:42):
We got you a guy. Let's get to David Gascon
find out what else going on sports. David has been
keeping eyeing that Cubbies game. Hi the Coubbies. Hell you doing?
And they had the lead in the ninth inning they
went into it five four. Reds took the lead though
now six five is the head into the home half
of the ninth. In that affair, everyone's hitting home runs.
Red's got a couple today, Chicago's got three of them

(01:50:04):
so far, but again they're down by a run, six
to five as they head into the home half of
the ninth. Thing other games later on today, Dodgers have
won three in a row against Pittsburgh. They play at
seven oh five. First pitch Walker Bueler goes for Los Angeles,
who's four and one this season with an e R
at three eight three. Noah Syndergard going for the Mets
three and four record and a four and a half.
Ye are right? They travel or they take on the

(01:50:25):
Detroit Tiggers, who have lost nine in a row off.
The Diamond. Mets have signed Urban Santana, also former Red
Matt Kemp to a mile league deal. Camp was betting
just two hundred during his time with the Cincinnati Reds.
Oak left legs had placed d How did I mean, like, okay,
so help me out. Mad Camp was off the scrap
heap and signed with the Dodgers last year. Then he

(01:50:48):
was an All Star because he was all Solar System
for the first half of last year. Then he came
back down to Earth and then he fell off a
cliff when he was traded to the Reds this year.
Now he's back in New York. Yes, on a mile
league minor league deal though, right, I mean, but fell
off a cliff. Yeah, I mean, man, he was so
good at the first half of last season and then

(01:51:09):
it was like Bellinger, Muncie, a couple of other guys,
you started swinging it. Well, they got obviously Mada Machado
and secret was out and he was just replaced to
the blink of an eye. I mean, it seems like
that from Matt Harvey. Weren't we talking about this yesterday?
Like he he was okay last year for Cincinnati and
then just fell off again and obviously in Anaheimie's nowhere

(01:51:29):
near your the Dark Night. Yes, but again a lot
like Matt Look, Matt camp had he had been down
for a couple of years, right, Like you go back
and in two thousand eleven he was a Dodger. He
was awesome, and then you know he laughed. He goes
to it at San Diego and Atlanta. Right, he's in

(01:51:50):
Atlanta and what he hit, uh ninety he did at
nineteen home runs whatever, but he was unbelievable the start
of last year, but then he kind of regrets. It
makes you think music. You know what I always say
about the stuff like this, Right, that's baseball, That's that's
base But anything you kind of want to explain something

(01:52:10):
that's inexplicable, you say, that's baseball. I would I would
say this about about Matt Kimp though that also is
thirty three year old dudes, right, that aren't on steroids.
When they're on steroids, that's when they can continue and
they don't get worn down. And now they get worn
down all the time. Yeah, no, no doubt. I mean
it's kind of the opposite, right of what J. D.
Martinez did in Arizona few years Ago, and nobody wanted

(01:52:30):
to sign him, and then Boston says, hey, we'll scratch
your check. And then all of a sudden they got
two m VP candidates in their line up with him
and Mookie Betts. Just weird, how weird? Hout? Baseball is
the last couple of it is. Speaking of baseball, a
couple of the notes dug Off, the Diamond Mariners have
at leased pictured Tyler Danish and the Braves are recalled

(01:52:51):
right handed picture Kyle Wright uh In the NBA, Nicole
yo Kich confirmed today they's gonna play for Team Serbia
during the twenty nineteen Feeble World Cup. And one note
in the National Football League, Adam pac Man Jones has
retired after fourteen seasons in the league. He's allowed to
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who's gonna go down. Everybody's gonna remember the bad stuff.
But he came back from most of the the bad
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I think part of it is the nickname. Part of
it is how bad the stuff was. You know, some
of that, a lot of the nonsense. But it is
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decade since it was really really bad. And you know

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he had the off duty police officer thing. I think
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only this vid David the show freeze by pretty fast today?

(01:55:05):
Is that me? Or do you feel the same way?
That was the door that was open to the breeze.
I thought it flew by like I'm I'm having I'm
having a great day. You know. Um, I would like
it to stop raining in southern California. I'm not asking
that much. I think Sunday a possibility of rain and
for people who are not in something California, like dude,
cry me a river. I'm just saying this is not

(01:55:27):
kind of we We pay a lot of taxes, there's
a lot of traffic, you know. Um, there's some other
stuff we don't love. We're supposed to like, all right, dude,
at least we got the weather. It's just kind of
always been how it's been in d C. On Sunday
by the way it is supposed to be UM nineties

(01:55:48):
for like a week. That is, Um, I believe that
is hot as balls is actually what it says, right,
That is what made you look up DC for weather Anyway.
I actually was looking up where I live and somehow
DC popped up and I was like, that's not right.
It's not gonna be ninety three years. Yeah, you can
only call it nut cutting time. I got some good

(01:56:09):
sound for you, dog. This is courtesy of of Gavin Kinzl,
who is cutting up sound for us today doing a
great job. Tiger Woods, Are you dropping? Are you name
dropping now? No, I'm just saying thank thanks. Not hard
to work bro exactly. Um, Gavitt has a gem for
us today. It was on Instagram courtesy of one Tigger Woods. Tiger,
what do you think about the guy that bet eighty

(01:56:30):
five tho dollars for you to win the Master? It's
a grand Slam Park, Tagger get to eight teen majors? Yeah,
I believe. So we'll see. I mean, I think pebble

(01:56:52):
was gonna be I know Dan Buyer played pebble at
previous days. On Wednesday, We'll find out when he gets back. Um,
I think Pebble's it's a track. He's got a shot at.
He's always got a shot at Augusta. He has so
much confidence there. You know, he's probably got five to
seven good you know, good shots at august I believe
or not. Um, you know all he has to play
well and is one or two of them, and like

(01:57:12):
we'll see. I I think he gets there. I've always
thought he got there. I don't think you could be
too drunk to fish or too old to play golf enough,
speaking of getting drunk, New York Jets they got some
issues in their front office, and Josina Anderson had tweetered
out league sources commenting on the New York Jets general
manager vacancy quote and no one really wants this job
without a long term deal. Staff in place is not

(01:57:35):
qualified to handle personnel matters. And people are wondering how
much control is the new person actually going to have.
Obviously Adam Gaze in there as well, but we'll know
based upon the higher right, like if it's an Adam
Gaze puppet. Look, look this, it's so funny. Like Buffalo Bills,
they did the same thing. Doug Whaley didn't know what
he was doing. They fire him, and the head coach

(01:57:55):
brings in his own guy from Carolina. You know, a
guy they have a relationship with. That's you know that
now Gates can get pay Manning like you feel like
he'll have a ton of control. Let'slet's see who they hire.
There's there's no reason to not be concerned if you're
a Jets fan of your Jets personality, like they're not
equipped for this stuff. But all that can be solved
if you make the right higher struggling go from one

(01:58:19):
quarterback to another. Former Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb told TMZ
Sports this quote, I'm a Hall of Famer. My numbers
speak for themselves. My numbers are better than Troy Aikman
end quote. Numbers for McNabb over his career just over
thirty seven hundred thirty seven thousand yards passing two four
touchdowns seventeen career I n t s. Aikman had less yards,

(01:58:42):
less yards passing, six passing tds on sport. I mean
with different eras different sport. You know, Troy Aikman was
a quarterback for arguably the greatest team of his generation. Right,
he was ridiculously accurate and uh concussions and injuries or
what led to his career being cut, or but he
was in an error which you know you didn't throw
for Here's what there's a couple of things that work

(01:59:04):
against Donal McNab. One. Every Andy Reid quarterback has had.
You know, Alex Smith has had incredible numbers better than
Donna McNab's. Is Alex Smith a Hall of Fame quarterbacks?
He played for a guy who everyone who's played for
him has had incredible success? And what are you doing too?
In your own horn? Like why are these guys doing this?
Just go like, hey, obviously everybody thinks they are. I

(01:59:28):
hope other people don't. Just to be in the discussion
is amazing. But I am proud of what we accomplished
as a team. But are you gonna calling out tred Igman?
I don't know, but I mean, think about it. How
many people actually talk about Donald McNabb as a as
a premier or elite quarterback because he was in the
bricks power and feed it. He wasn't he was crazy
and accurate. He was. He was athletic but not a freak.

(01:59:50):
But he still was able to lead them to what
five straight an f c NFC Championship games and once
once a bull um. But he wasn't like he was
a really really good player, and he was a lot
better than anyone probably thought he would be, but not
nearly as good as some of his reputation based upon
the team winning. You know they had, you know, they
had Hall of famers around him, and um, yeah, I

(02:00:13):
don't think he's all the fame quarterback. I personally don't,
But I also don't think he's doing himself on the
favors and how he's hand himself in the media other
things like it's not the way you don't call it Troyman.
I think you just go like, hey, you could look
at some guy's numbers and similar era I did pretty well,
but instead you like single at Troy Aman. Yeah, TrackMan's
numbers aren't great, but didn't have to be. He won

(02:00:35):
all the big games. Don't you think we're gonna have
this conversation about other average quarterbacks as the years go along.
I mean, Matthew Stafford pat monumental numbers, but I mean
he's not on a good team, but he chugged to be.
He chucked a beer last night, so somehow that makes
him better. Than Aaron Rodgers. I think it drank like
a half yard. It looked like from that restaurant. Speaking

(02:00:57):
of that game, game six is tomorrow, and the odds
we talked about this yesterday have been dipped down a
little bit but some for some clarity, Drake will touch
a coach at any point during the game tomorrow night,
minus three or the odds that he will do. So,
do you think it happens? If you're if you're a
friend of Drake's, don't you load up on this thing

(02:01:18):
that he's gonna test them? Then you tell Drake like, hey,
I'll pinch you off some, I'll give you some money. Yes,
I think it happens. Now that's become a thing. I
think it happens. I know I'm done with the Drake thing.
To Toronto close out things tomorrow night. I think they
close out things. I think they played for their first
NBA championship. Story it will be we'll switch over to
UH college basketball. Kansas forwards Sylvia del salso Del Salsa

(02:01:41):
find out some good excuse me, h. Education career can
continue now. The n c double A has ruled that
he's allowed. He's not ineligible anymore. He was ineligible last season,
but they appealed obviously got back into the good graces
and now he's back to be playing basketball again and
conting his college education. Yeah, he was the one who
I can't remember as his uncle, someone who's asking for

(02:02:02):
money and supposedly got paid thirty grand, he said all
of last year. He actually missed the first half of
his freshman season because he left high school year early,
and there he had to get clear for the clearing house.
Like I like, a year suspension is fine. I'm happy
he's back playing in college. I would I'd hope more
guys that get in the crosshairs of the n c
A get a chance to come back and play. More

(02:02:23):
guys in college basketball is better for the sport. Get
out there and pressed that the press. Ryan Music, The
single best thing you will do this weekend is what
got one of my best friends from college in town.
So we'll just be hanging out, probably drinking a couple
of those beers that you saw. Are you are you
gonna go mit Hlatta? Do you do you drink of Meshelata?
I do not medas, but not ralmost Melada? Why am

(02:02:47):
I am I somehow sisified? If I like Mischelata. Yeah. Yeah,
you guys are kind of looking down at me, like
do you like alatta? I do? And you know what,
I'm gonna go have one, have a very safe Memorial
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