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June 7, 2019 41 mins

Doug tells you why Carson Wentz’s new contract makes perfect sense for the Eagles and why it won’t have an impact on Dak Prescott’s new contract with the Cowboys. He also breaks down game 4 of the NBA Finals and argues the Raptors should be favorites not the Warriors. Plus, NBA Insider Chris Haynes shares the latest of Klay Thompson’s health and where Kyrie Irving will sign in free agency.

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Are okay? So Cars and Wentz signs a huge contract extension.

(01:03):
That is the news of the day. We'll get you
ready for tonight's Game four NBA Finals in Oakland with
Chris Haynes from Yahoo Sports, their NBA insider. Uh he'll
join us upcoming. We'll talk some Kyrie Irving well Man
I and Eagle is gonna join us. He just got
back from the French Open. But I also want to
get his perspective on a guy who covers the NBA

(01:24):
for T n T and covers the nets for Yes Network,
on on exactly uh what they got ruined there, because
it feels like the chemistry is great, and my concern
would be that Kyrie does not make their chemistry in
fact better. Adam Capitlan will join us NFL Insider get
his thoughts on the Carson Wentz deal, and then we're

(01:49):
also gonna take you to UH to Jurassic Park and
get an update on how everybody in Toronto is feeling
about this series. So we we will cover football, we
will cover we got I got a couple of baseball
stories with Dallas Kaikos signing with Craig Kimberll signing. What
I thought, what what what to make of Dallas Kiko's
thirteen million dollar deal with the Atlanta Braves. But I

(02:12):
want to start with the extension of Carson Wentz sixties
six million dollars do its signing hundred twenty eight million
dollars overall one and seven point nine million dollars guaranteed.

(02:33):
It's a lot of money. That is a lot, a lot,
a lot of money. And um, what I think, what
I believe to be true, is that, uh, he's worth
every penny. And there's been a lot of nonsense coming
out of Philadelphia about his inability to lead, um and

(02:57):
and about how they're you know, he's not the guy
who people portray him to being. This this is Philadelphia
saying yes he is. And I know that people you
sit there and go like, well, this is great for
Dak Prescott. Maybe he did not, in fact get top
dollar thirty million a year is is not the top

(03:17):
of the top of the top. And usually the cases
when you're in the top ten, whoever has the next
deal gets the most money. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's still not in the prime of his career. Now
you can say, well, he injured his knee a year
and a half ago and injured his back last year,
and when you're not available, that cuts down your value.

(03:39):
That's fine. But the fact is he doesn't play a
a totally reckless style of football. And even though he
didn't have his best year to date this year, when
he was last fully healthy, he was likely the m
v P of the league. And this is Philadelphia getting
ahead of it, saying like, look, we want costs certain

(04:00):
d we think contracts are going up. We found a
way to get a guy slightly below market value. We
extend him now. That way, we don't pay some punishment
of forty or fifty million dollars going up a year
from now. And I think all that is in fact brilliant.

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Now it changes where the Philadelphia Eagles are and where
they're going to be over the next couple of years
because they do have that much money locked into one guy.
And no team has gone through quarterbacks because of injury
quite like the Philadelphia Eagles over the last five years.
You know, go back and look at all of the
different starting quarterbacks they had, five, six, seven years. It's

(04:45):
like wow. But once you find your guy and you
lock in. And so my read on this is really simple.
They think Carson Wentz is great. The league thinks Carson
Wentz is great. He wasn't ever going to become a
free agent. But this gives you cost certainty for the

(05:06):
in the NFL, this is long term future. You don't
do a tenure deal in the NFL. You do a
deal like this one, so you pay a big chunk
up front and then you are set at quarterback for
the next five years. That's your guy, and he's just
out coming into his prime. And if last year was
the worst, they can live with that. They can live

(05:31):
with that. And while you're view of it, maybe that
Nick Foles was better in the playoffs, the reality is
that the league doesn't see it that way. They don't
see it that way, and they believe that over a
sixteen or maybe eighteen we know knows game season that
will play out. So and and if we look at

(05:57):
it from the perspective of Dak Prescott and what he
may get, you can't. I don't believe you take into
account what DAC didn't make over his first three years
because he was a fourth round draft pick. That doesn't
to me. There is no like, oh, we didn't we
underpaid you, then we're not gonna overpay you. Now. I
wouldn't do it that way. The news is not great

(06:18):
for DAC because usually the new deals end up topping
the older deals. And and and no, I don't think
Doc is as good or in the I'm sure he's
in the ballpark of Carson Wentz but if that's his
contemporary and most people believe, myself included, and I think
most football people, real hardcore football people tell you, like
Carson Wentz is demonstrably better than Dak Prescott. DA press

(06:41):
is a good fine, it's fine. If if Wentz is
worth thirty, then he's in the twenties, which is Look,
if you're making a million dollars a year and somebody says,
do you want to do you want to make twentyfold
what you're making? You go, yeah, sure, and time, But

(07:03):
I don't. I do not think this is a reset
of the young quarterback market because if those teams are
smart and look the rams, they overspent on a running
back early and it looks like they're gonna pay some
sort of penance for it, do they want to do
the same thing with Jared GoF? Like they like Jared Golf.
Doesn't mean you want to lose Jared Goff, but it

(07:24):
also doesn't mean you want to top Carson Wentz. Is deal? Why?
Because people don't think that Jared Goof's as good as
Carson Wentz. I don't do you you know, and and
we we also we do this thing and I'm a
parent now, so and some of you are as well.
And now you definitely remember when you were a kid.

(07:45):
Can I spend the night at Jimmy's house? No? Well
why not? Well Jimmy stays up too late? Yeah I
did Jimmy. Jimmy's bed times at ten o'clock. You're bed
times a nine o'clock. Yeah, but Jimmy's. But like, you're
not Jimmy. I have this with my son all the
time he's in bed. We tried to have them in

(08:06):
bed eight fifteen, try to have lights out in eight thirties,
ten years old. He's like, Dad, that's ridiculous. I was like, okay,
but here's the problem. He's like, well, my friends they
all go to bed at ten o'clock on weekends. Yeah,
you're up at six thirty weekends, weekdays doesn't matter, and
you have sports sometimes two. So we're not comparing incomparables.

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You're not Jimmy. I'm not Jimmy's dad, right, Like my
my wife is. She's like the sleep sleepover nazi nobody likes.
She's like, I don't like sleepovers. And the big reason is,
like my kids all get up early. They just don't
sleep in. And when you have a sleepover, no one
goes to bed on time, and you don't want to

(08:49):
be the parents. It's like, all right, we gotta go
to bed like it's it's not it's the light outside.
Everything is different in context. If you're Dak Prescott, you
probably think you should get more because you got less previously,
and the Dallas Cowboys probably think you should get less
because you're not as good. And therein lies the rub.

(09:10):
You're not Carson Wentz and we're not the Dallas and
we're not the Philadelphia Eagles. We didn't win a super
Bowl and you're like, well, he didn't even win a
super Bowl, like yeah, but also you weren't. You were
never an m VP candidate. He was the m v
P of the league and got hurt. So I look

(09:31):
at the contract thing, and I understand President usually rused
rules to day whatever contract was before the next contract
UPO sit by one dollar more right, like like in
family not family feud. What's the price is right? Seven
D and one dollars seven D one dollars right, we
don't want to go over, but this ain't family feud.

(09:56):
This or price is right, and it is not parenting,
but just it's just parenting. Don't tell me what time
Jimmy goes to bed. Don't tell me how much Carson
Wentz's contract is senator. I know Carson Wentz and youth
senator or no Carson Wentz. And by the way, even
if we compared to Carson Wentz, he's viewed as a
top five, top ten quarterback in the craft and he

(10:17):
did not take top tier money in comparison to what
other guys have just recently gotten. Be sure to catch
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Chris B Haynes. Check out the Posted Up with Chris

(10:38):
Haynes podcast. Chris, Chris, you were the first to report
that Clay Thompson was going to play tonight, But like
he just pulled his hamstring? How how healthy is he actually?
You know, the hamstring is always you know, that's something
you never want to play with. Man, I don't think
I don't think he's gonna be at all. Obviously he

(10:59):
felt good to play a game three and the Warriors
wanted to, you know, be extra cautious and give him
a couple more days off and get him out there
for game for tonight. So I don't know how effective
he's going to be, but just at least, you know,
to be able to use him as a decoy and
just to have another officeive option aside of Stephan Curry.
You know, I think that certainly will help him tonight.

(11:21):
What about Kevin Durant? What about? What about? What about
Kevin Durant? Like, is uh is Kevin Durant close? He's
been He's wrapped it up all week? Uh, most people
within the organization felt like he was going to be
able to give it a go um for you know,
for this such a nice game. Obviously, the doctors felt

(11:45):
like he still needed more time. And I don't know
that that situation. Man's fluid, and you know it'll it'll
be tough, Like it's tough for me to see Sham
coming back in the scenario in which saves Toronto wins
and not their up three one. I mean the first
game back you know of Kevin Durant from from an

(12:07):
entry like that and with the front court that Toronto
has was his first game back is down three one
in Toronto like that that that's that seems like a
stretch right there. So uh, it's it's it's very hard
to see to see him make another return at this point. Really,
what about Kevan Looney there's been talking to that he's

(12:28):
going to try and make returns by the fact that
he was previously ruled out. Yeah, I'm totally you know,
he's a game time decision tonight. Uh. I think he's
going to have an injection today. Um. So it's it's
a matter of pain collerance with him and also with Warriors,
and they're they're they're actually extra cautious and the injuries

(12:50):
and handling the players and when they return. So I
think I think his his fate is going to be
left up to you know, really pretty close to the
tip to see if he can go or not. But
it's it's a good chance he's back in the finals.
So what what is what's the feeling around this thing?
Like with so many injury concerns with the Warriors, Like,

(13:10):
what's what's what's the feeling around the series? They really
you know, for the as the Wars a standpoint, they
felt like, you know, they've been through this before. Uh.
I would argue against that, but they feel like they've
been through this before. They've they've been down there. You know,
they they're their slogan strengthen numbers. Uh. You know, they've
proven that they can come back from from deficits and

(13:33):
other guys to step up. I will argue that, you know,
this team is not the teams of the previous four championships,
I mean previous four finals appearance teams that they lacked
the depth that they had and those other teams. And
I don't know necessarily that there is sprinted numbers with
this roster. Uh. So I think this is just a
different beast, man. I really do. I really do think

(13:55):
it's a different beast. I really felt like the Warriors
kind of kind of gave that Game three away with
Sittae Clay Thompson because he really wanted to play. I
think they felt like, obviously with Clay or k D
if they reaggurate the injury days so like they're out
for the series, so they don't want to jeopardize that.
But at the same time, this is the finest you know,

(14:15):
so I just think they're going to allow on their
experience to trying to pull through, but I just think
this time around is going to be tough for actual occur.
I tend to agree with you. Um Uh, it's just
it's a weird, like there's a weird like Draymond still
seems like Draymond. They're saying all the same things, but

(14:36):
like this is a good team that you know, Toronto
has to have that finish line in sight and the
chance of two more home games like that did not
a team to be trying, which makes which makes tonight
incredibly incredibly important. Um, what adjustments do you think the
Warriors can make, especially with you know, we don't know
about Clay defensively offensively, you know, but I still shoot,

(14:58):
but we don't know if you can move defense and
Lee and the chance they don't have Looney like they
were just getting way too many easy looks going back
to Game three. Yeah, and then answer a question that
I don't know. I don't know, it's justified what they
can make and what they can do because they lack
a lot of options defensively and offensively to kind of
counter what Toronto was doing. You just hope that you know,

(15:19):
So if you're Golden State, Worris fan that Clay times
think can be effective offensive. But Jeff, remember he's one
of the best perimeter defenders as well, and you know
he always is one of the top leaders in We're
talking about Miles Ran throughout the course of the season
because he's always moving and so it's tough. Man. That's
why I said, like if if, if Golden State got

(15:40):
that game. That's why Game three was so important though.
And I'm not saying this series is is over by
any stretch of imagination, but Toronto showed me they're real.
Like I kind of expected or anticipated Golden State winning
that thing just based off experience, even with Clay being out.
The Toronto showed us that, look, you can't take you okay, um,

(16:01):
those load management games during the finals against US, you
know we're going to take advantage of it. You know,
this is not the this is not the Eastern Rockets,
this ain't the Portlands Troublazi. They there for real. And
you know, I wonder if go To State's taking them lightly.
I don't want they're taking them lightly. I just don't
think they had the personnel for it. And it's at
some point, you know, you have to you have to

(16:22):
try and find a way to win for again, win
three more games. Chris Haynes joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Trading. Big news in the
NBA yesterday was that the by trading Alan Crab the
Brooklyn Nets cleared out cap space for now two Max players.
And of course previously that you talked about, others have
talked about the idea that Kyrie Irving seems to be

(16:43):
leading towards Brooklyn. Um, what what changed yesterday from the
perspective of who do you think goes where now that
Brooklyn has opened up to max salary slots? Oh, well,
Brooklyn was always in place. I think what they did
just make sure they gave themselves an opportunity, Uh, not

(17:03):
giving ourselves opportunity, but make sure they showed everybody like, look,
we're going all in. This is what we're trying to do.
Come join us. And so from that standpoint, you have
to applaud Brooklyn from making a movie ahead of Tide.
They didn't have to do it right now. They could
have waited a little bit longer, but they did it.
They wanted to show, they want to show that they're invested,
and you know they're they're for real. And so with
that being said, you know this this being for about

(17:25):
a month now where you've kind of connected Kyrie and
Brooklyn more so than Kyrie with the Knicks or with
Kyrie going back to Boston. So Brooklyn is making a
play man. They're they're they're trying to show everybody that
you know, there there's two teams uh in New York
and they want to show that they're Apple Mill. Okay,

(17:46):
So what does that mean for Kevin Durant. I mean,
it's Kevin Duratt. I mean, look, I think, um, if
he is looking to boat go to State, which I
think he has his options open at that just just
this moment. It I don't know where he said it.
I've never been I've never confirmed anything like that's the
final that he's leaving. But you know, if he is leaving,

(18:09):
I mean you gotta I think Kyrie might be off
the market, and if he's looking for a running mate,
we have to look at probably Kimba Walker and see what.
Look monitor his situation in Charlotte. You know he's up
for that Supermax. You know it's it's gonna be telling
you Charlotte issues that Supermax if they don't and that's
why I see kimber Bolton and I think that's probably

(18:30):
the next logical running mate for Kad should he decide
to les going to stay. But so, you don't think
Katie would go to You don't think Katie would go
to Brooklyn? Uh? Do I think Katie would go to Brooklyn?
My old personal opinion right now is I don't know
if I see I don't know if I see that
because I haven't heard anything to Tenby on that, So

(18:52):
this is just my opinion. But I haven't you know,
would he go there. I think he would look at him,
you know, I think he would look into him. Man,
and I spread you know, they're making the moves. They're
trying to be major players. Remember, for for the longest time,
New York has kind of ran things as far as
when we're talking about teams over the summer, who's gonna
make big moves. It's pretty pretty been, it's pretty been

(19:15):
New York mentioned all season long. Now Brooklyn stepping in boom,
you know, So I think I think Kie has to
look into it, but I I don't want to say
anything the family right now, and he's gonna feel really
seriously considered brook because I've heard that as a right now,
all right, what's the feeling around the series? Chris Haynes,
joining US Yahoo Sports senior NBA insider about Kawhi Leonard

(19:36):
right like, it was long thought, he's going to l A.
He's going to l A. He's going to l A.
There are three games away from winning their first ever title.
Um has Do you believe any of his feelings have changed?
I would think they have to do. You know, look,
I was my my my colleague, Siri uh staying in Toronto,

(19:58):
my Yahoo colleague. We were having to talk it, you know,
it was in between Game one and Games two in Toronto,
to talk about the chance of him both and I said, look,
I think it would be very hard because I was
thinking Golden Statement gonna win this series, and I think
it would be hard for Kauai to leave after getting
to the finals and losing, because it would be like

(20:19):
unphysiness business. And then she gave me a difference scenario
and that made me think of She said, well, I
think that he can leave now and be okay because
he's gotten him to a point that they've never been.
And she said, and it it Toronto does win the championship.
He she definitely thinks he could leave because he's gotten
into a place they've never been before. The the ultimate,

(20:41):
the ultimate accomplishment, and what else would he own? The
city of Toronto. And I was like, I've never thought
about it like that. And so I'm saying all that
that does to say, I don't know what he's doing
right now. I have more. I have more of a
postal Kauai properly about a month ago. If you asked
me a month ago, obviously I still think he's leaving.
So now when everything has happened away, you know, everything

(21:03):
massively has just came together and it's up in the air.
There's there's only a few people, quite as a very
small circle, him as Uncle Dennis and his agent. You know,
I spoke to Uncle Dennis. You know, he got a
more record for my story about a week and a
half ago. Very small circle. So it's gonna be hard
to tell where he's gonna be leading, But well we'll

(21:24):
find out soon enough for sure. Chris Haynes joining us
from Yahoo Sports, and then you have the Lakers and
the discussion about Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis came out earlier
this week. Three teams, Lakers, Clippers, and the Knicks. Um,
I've been led to believe that the Celtics are still
gonna be in hot pursuit in spite of the fact
that he has given no promises and no assurances that

(21:44):
he even consider signing a long term deal. What are
you hearing in regards to Anthony Davis, It's the same
those three teams. Uh, you know, he really wants he
really wants to start start a new Uh get get
with a new franchise and try to kick things off
the right way. And the same with you know, with
David Griffin, you know, the new head of basketball operations

(22:06):
over there in New Orleans. You know, this is his regime.
So he don't want he don't want this thing to
drag out much longer. Um. He wants to get started.
He wants to get started with the people that want
to be there. And uh, you know, I think this
is going to end relatively quickly. I don't think you
want to have a long, drawing out process throughout the
off season. But you know, the teams have to be
a team's teams. Though. If there's teams out five, those

(22:28):
three that's going to make a make a play, it's
trade for him, they got to know that they're they're
serious risk and um, obviously I think you know the
Kauai Leonard, his situation is gonna be another case studies
similar to Paul George that you know, if he's traded
for him, let's let's see what's kick tires, see what happens.
But I just don't think that Anthony David's situation. If
a team outside that three trades from I just don't

(22:50):
think it it'll be a happy ending Doug Alive Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. What's what's Lebron been telling people? Uh,
as far as you mean recruiting, like going out recruiting guys, No,
in terms of you know there there has been tucked Hey,
if they strike out, he's gonna want out. I haven't
heard that at all. But again, reputable people have have

(23:13):
reported that. I've heard he's very happy and that he
expects the Lakers to try and fix it. But look,
you you haven't. You have incredible list of sources and
people you're talking to. I'm just wondering, what what what
what Lebron's temperature over all of this discussion has been
in recent weeks, He's invested. He's invested, and to the

(23:34):
to the Los Angeles Likes organization, He's invested to that,
you know, and to the to the city. I mean,
you know, he got his shout his son and you
know it is in one of the top top high
school's gonna play alongside uh, you know, his best friend son,
Dwayne Wade. So you know that he's in He's in it.
You know, he he committed four years uh to that

(23:57):
franchise and uh, you know, I don't expect I don't
look anything can change as the right now, I haven't
heard anything about it. They strike out, and somebody's gonna
ask what's right, I would be speculating, So I can't
confirm me in those reports. I haven't seen it, but
I can't confirm me at those right now. But as
of now, he's going to be whatever the Leks need.
He's gonna be helpful and try to get some things

(24:19):
accomplish this summer. But I haven't heard what he will
do if they strike out. Last thing, um, a guy
who is a part owner of the Warriors pushes Kyle
Lowry and you know Lowry. Um. I thought Lowry during
the game handled it great, right like that's that's what
I wish Russell Westbrook would have done during the Utah game.

(24:39):
Just get the guy ejected. Doesn't matter who it is.
You get him ejected. You have that power as a player.
And then he said something about it afterwards, and now
he's suspended for a year, more than a year and
a five hundred thousand dollar fine. He accepted the punishment
and apologized and apologize apparently on a on a phone
call to Kyle Lowry as well. But this is interesting,
right because it's it's been an organization sh that's so

(25:01):
seen as so pro player. Uh, it's been an organization
um that that has been kind of forward thinking. Um.
Do you think there is there any effect tonight on
the crowd, on the way people are based upon everything
that's happened over the last forty eight hours. No, But
I really think that was an isolated situation. I don't

(25:22):
think it would be anything anything else throughout it or
anything that's gonna stand out there. You know, the owner,
he stepped over the line, he was filling himself a
little bit too much, and then he was ultimately punished.
So I don't think this is gonna be something that
we're going to see a Trands trend going on it.
I really I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't have minded,

(25:45):
you know, if if there was a more stifferent band.
But I'm comfortable. I was comfortable with what was implemented
or Stevens that. Uh, there's no there was no excuse
for what he did. Uh. You need to stay in
this place, where in this place, and he's he's gonna
be he's gonna remain in a new place. And that's
outside of the team and the team activities for about

(26:07):
a year. So who gets those big thing is who
gets those seats? Chris? I want those seats? Uh, it's
probably another billionaire. Du Sorry, I don't I don't think you.
I don't think you. You fit that quieteryer to sit in.
No see me or you for that matter. Three three
common guys are easy to find in Silicon Valley, hard
to find on the radio or in print, Chris, Huh.

(26:28):
And then the last thing is you threw on and
you threw an incredible event which was televised right media
basketball one day kind of extravaganza. Did anyone get hurt? Um? Look,
there were no injuries that needs to be reported. That day.
But you know, obviously everybody is still in ill effects.

(26:48):
Uh going into Game three and NBA files you can
see everybody walking with a limp and and and it
wasn't they wasn't walking with the swag walk. It wasn't
like that. They were literally hurt. You know. We one
hard fall, we had a spill that what we we
had a doctor rose and they came and it was
a female. There's Michelle Pool. Actually was her team who

(27:10):
won the whole the whole tournament. Uh, she had a
spiel hard fall, but she got up, dust herself off
and got back in there later roll. Outside of that, No,
there was no serious injuries to report a p LS,
MCLs ABCS. They were all in place and we're good
to go. We're gonna do it even bigger next year.
Awesome stuff, Chris, thanks so much for joining us. A

(27:30):
great event that you put on, and we look forward
to talk with you as the series rolls on and
we get closer to free agency. Thanks for me our
guest on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions.
So the dougdut Leap Show week days in noon eastern
three pm Pacific. Stevens was suspended, not just for the
remainder of this year, which it means he can't go

(27:50):
to the finals. That sucks, and next year, which means,
you know, the new arena, which is built for the
team that he put in and helped and owns, he
can't go there. And I'm sure he's had to pay
for his ticks like he lived physically, can I use them?
And he's been fine five hundred thousand dollars, which that
would that would stink too. Like all of these things

(28:13):
not good. The intent is twofold. One you don't want
fans touching players, understood, and two you want to embarrass
Mark Stevens. Both of these have been accomplished. Now if
we're gonna we're gonna limit ownership of a team and

(28:34):
find out because of what he's I don't want to
hear it because he's yelling at it at cal Lowry didn't.
Draymond just kind of support the fact that because Drake
is Drake, he can say what he wants to say.
This was Draymond after Game two talking about Drake as
Drake talking on the sideline, Like I think so many

(28:56):
people make a big deal out of it. It is
what it is. He a fan, he talked, and it
gets more attention because he's Drake. So many people are
complained about it, like you know that any other fan
do that? Yeah, any other fans is not Drake, so
they probably shouldn't be able to do that. That's just
kind of how the Cookie Crombo. He's worked his ass
off to be who he is, and I think we
all know when you do that, you get more leashed

(29:18):
than others. So I think there's so much talking like
the NBA needs us know they don't. He worked to
be who he is, you should get more leashed. But
I don't mind it. It's far for me. Yeah, so
Mark Stevens worked his ass off to get to where
he got. I'm sure Draymond, I'm sure Kyle Lowry and
Truth didn't mind it. We were just taking this mob

(29:39):
mentality of Okay, first suspending for the year, which I
kind of think is enough, Like he's not going to
go to the last games at Oracle in the NBA Finals,
and he's been singled out and he's been named that's
embarrassing and that's punitive enough off enough to keep anybody

(30:02):
from doing it. But okay, you want to suspend him
for next year. I would have just done it indefinitely. Hey,
he's got to stay away from the team, you know,
until further notice. But now you're finding him five thousand
dollars like okay. Now, now it's like dog pile on him.
And then this story from Dylan Buyer's senior media reporter
NBC and MSNBC source says close to the Golden State

(30:24):
Warriors tell me Mark Stevens, the minority owner who pushed
Kyle Lowry, will likely be forced to shell his to
sell his shares before the start of next season. Now.
Stevens um put out a statement earlier today in which
he apologized to Kyle Lowry, apologized to the league, to
the Warriors, said he behavior wasn't acceptable. He accepts the
previous punishments. I I'm him. I don't sell. There's no

(30:47):
possible way, There's no reason for him to sell. This
is from somebody who I would consider myself more left
leaning or a centrist than right leaning. But I do
find it fascinating that many of the same people like
Lebron James, who are calling for Mark Stevens to have

(31:08):
to sell his shares are the same people who want
to give everybody else the second or third or fourth
chance that that in our country, you you get we're
all about, on one hand, not being overly punitive towards crimes.
It's one of the great things our country is finally
figured out. It's like some of the same people that

(31:29):
are making the arguments about the criminal justice system going
too far or about penalties that the NBA legislates going
too far now are saying, well, then this NBA is
not going far enough because no one wants to stand
up and look, I don't know the guy, you know,
I know he donated money to us and USC is
a disaster to I don't know he's a good guy

(31:50):
or bad guy. I know that he lost his mind
and he did something kind of stupid. But it wasn't
something like cal Owry didn't turrund and slugging because it
was nothing. You want to keep people from doing it again.
You want to embarrass the dude. Both have been accomplished.
But it's like, no, no, that's not enough. Let's tack
on something else. Let's make him sell the shares. What
why one he makes it will make a boatload of

(32:12):
money on selling the shares because he bought when he
bought low selling high. Secondly, like, how are you going
to control how somebody acts to what somebody says when
one time they push it? Dude, this there's not a
series of events. He was just a fan who got
it was a little bit too big for his bridges
who was like Drake only took an extra step instead

(32:33):
of instead of just talking trash. He actually had a
one handed push when Kyle Lowry came over towards him
because he dove for a ball. What what? What are
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(32:54):
Adam Caplan is an NFL insider pallm on Twitter at
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and Adam of course joining us with Carson Wentz signs
a massive deal to remain as starting quarterback for the
long term future. Not a surprise with the Eagles. Adam,
what's your reaction to the numbers? Well, look thirty too many? Year?

(33:17):
Is I pegged it? Between thirty two million. Let's let's
understand though the Eagles did this super early. They had
him for this year next year on the fifth year option,
which they already exercised, and they had too franchise tags
available to them, so they could have actually kept him
under their control without doing extension for four more years
and not do anything. So they did this early. This

(33:39):
is typically what they do. They did this with Joe Banner,
the former president in the early two thousands. They would
take the early risk, but they were but the player
would take the long term risk because if you play
as well doesn't get hurt, that means he gets a
deal that looks to be undervalued over a period of time.
So that that that's kind of what I thought would happen.
It did. Both sides, I know, are very happy about this.

(34:00):
And then you know, for once this situation, Doug, you
know it does not have to worry about this spaces
injury history, that this is behind him. You know, they've
taken care of him and this is one thing he
doesn't have to worry about. Yeah. I mean, and I
think most of us are sitting here, non Eagles followers
like not in her head. There are the people like, well,
you know, Foles won the Super Bowl, and Folds was like, yeah,

(34:21):
this guy was an m v P before he got hurt.
And and and as as great as Foals was in
his last I don't know, two games, um in the
Super Bowl year, Uh, he was equally putrid at times
early on, and that when he first got the football,
he wasn't great. Even early in the playoffs that year
wasn't great. And then this year one of the reasons

(34:41):
they rushed Carson Wentz back was because Foals, you know, Folds,
nick Foles is is Nick Foles um? But but but
was was that always the feeling in inside the locker
room right that Whence was the guy, Whence is the
franchise guy? Or did they need this type of kind
a track in order to cement it. I think the

(35:03):
ladder there's there's something to that. I think I think
they felt like, let's get this done now. Well, obviously
full sign with Jackson, the line with it, that's that's
the first thing. But they wanted to show everybody that
this is their guy for the future, this is the
franchise quarterback. It was a point to the Eagles and
talking to them that they took care of this now.
Talking to the Jaguars. Interesting when you when you talk

(35:24):
about the nick Full situation. I was talking to someone
in the front office not too long ago, and we
were just talking about Folds and how well he could do.
I said, I. I said, I'm the boy. I'm surprised
that you guys are paying him as much as you are.
He's never done it for a full season. So this guy,
the guy from the front office, said, hey, wait a minute,
if you put together his last sixteen games. The guy

(35:44):
actually knew the statt off the top of his head. Doug.
That was kind of comical, as though he knew I
was going to go there. But you were absolutely right. Folds,
despite everything he did under Chip Kelly, Let's not forget
after the season he was going to retire until only
Re talked him out of it for once season was
with the Chiefs. Let's not forget about that. So you
nail that. Here's the guys that had somewhat of a

(36:06):
shaky career has shown though the ability and limited time
to do very well. And I could tell you talking
to the Jaguars last week, they said he looked and
he's looked incredible, like even better than they imagine. And
don't forget his quarterbacks coach d Filippo, who he had
with the Eagles now the still Yeah, Adam Gablin joining
us do Glip show Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So, um,

(36:28):
how does this affect the Eagles in terms of everybody else? Right? Like,
that's a substantial chunk of money, sixty six million dollars guaranteed.
And I know there's there's ways to manipulate the cap,
but how how does this affect them in terms of
filling out the roster with other guys who want to
get paid. Yeah, so so, Doug. They feel pretty good
about it now. Malcolm Jenkins has now reported their all

(36:50):
season program. If he doesn't report next week, then you
know that he wants something done with his contract. Malcolm
is one of their leaders. He liked something. My understanding
is he once his contract adjusted to reflect his his
part of the team's success. He's a leader. He's been
one of the best recent signings in the last twenty
years for the football team. And they've got pretty much

(37:12):
everyone else done. Now that they've got once done, they
don't really have much else to do here. They're in
great camp position. They had over twenty million before this extension,
and this one will eat up some of it. But
they're in pretty good shape this one, I could tell
you from talking Eagles. They're doug They had planned for
this after the last season. They wanted this was a
major priority for them. They wanted to take care of this,

(37:32):
and they've done that the last couple of years. They
had extended a bunch of players, and they also declined
a couple of options of players that that they weren't
sure about. Stefan Wisnewski will They resigned him name with
Tim Jernegan, who used to be a starter. He's back
as a backup. What about the quarterback market? Now you got,
you know, the Jared Goffs to the world, you got

(37:53):
the Dak Prescott's of the world. I noticed that because
it wasn't um, you know, because it was in full price,
and it's not that he's not the highest paid guy. Actually,
I'm not sure this is great for Dak Um or
great for for Jared Goff a guy willing to take
a little bit less, because normally these deals it's one
dollar more than whoever the guy was before. Then, how

(38:15):
do you think this affects those other quarterbacks in one
either his draft class or in other draft classes around
that same time. Alright, so Doug, let's take a look
at the the the sort of from a macro view. Remember,
let's not forget Prescott is on the fannie of his
rookie deal. He's not on a fifth year option. Anyone
who was drafted outside the first round does not have
the fifth year. And remember Wentz was the first round pick,

(38:38):
so he was on his fourth year. Plus you have
the option then the Eagles could have used to franchise tax.
So the Cowboys are gonna get this done. I believe
it'll get done by the start of training camp. And
now that they know what the Wentz deal looks like.
And although it's interesting, some people really thought that Prescott
would go first then Wentz, but on they're a little
bit different stages of their career based on where they

(38:58):
were drafted and their current contract. But Prescott should be
again should get done. Um, obviously he's gonna want to
be two million. And the question there that you know,
the Cowboys have so many extensions to do. This one's
gonna be interesting because they've got Prescott. Byron Jones, they're
outstanding cornerback Ezekiel Eli if they want to get him done,

(39:21):
and there's there a couple other guys that are looking
at so that this one is gonna be interesting. And
then Jared Goff. My senses from talking to people around
the league that Goff probably won't get done this year.
They the Rams have pretty much said that this would
be a little bit further down the line. And the
funny thing is they were drafted one pick from each other.
Goff one went too, and they're also represented by the

(39:42):
same agency. And then Patrick Mahomes next year. They can't
do it this year that deal. Remember he's on the
third year his rookie deal. The Mahomes deal, well, not
only if he gets it done, should be the richest
in NFL history for any player. I think he could
hit forty million dollars a season. I really believe that. Uh,
if he does as well as he did last year's
even close to it. Because he's such an outlier for

(40:05):
the quarterback position. No one has ever seen him anyone
like this, and he's a guy could take it the
the the quarterback contracts to the next level. Don't forget
that when we look at these quarterback contracts Russell Wilson
got the big one at thirty five million. I think
that I think Mahomes could reach if he has another
monster season forty million per season. Last thing really quickly

(40:28):
and Tyreek Khill. It doesn't appear that that the Kansas
City Police Department is going to pursue this thing anymore.
What do you think the league does? Yeah, I think
he'll wind up getting suspended. But remember they cannot figure
out how the child was harmed. Was it by Hill
or or his his his girlfriend who who he's been
with for a while and he has had a bunch
of kids with. So it doesn't mean you don't forget

(40:50):
the NFL is no longer really relies on law enforcement
as it did but prior to the Ray rights situation.
So um, but it may not be the kind of
mention most people were expecting. There was a lot of
Twitter reaction, obviously, Doug win Um the story came out,
and I look, we're all human. It was pretty ugly,
which would which had been documented, but now we we

(41:12):
look at a little differently. But again I expect him
to get to spend it. But the question is how
long it's going to be and how how are they
what kind of information to this does the league have
and that that's certainly going to be at issue here.
And then the other part is what are the Chiefs
too right because they've had this is not their first
run in with the with the domestic violence, and it
wasn't like this is it's his first defense in the
NFL if they feel like the defense, but not his

(41:33):
first defense, you know, as a human being, and it's
it's a really hard one and it does affect Pat
Mahomes because it's the most explosive offense and he's the
most explosive player. Adam Kaplan NFL Insider falling on Twitter
at Caplan NFL. Check out his latest podcast, Inside the Birds.
Great stuff, Adam, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you,
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