Draft Night is Upon Us

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Over these last couple of weeks, I have learned to
expect the unexpected, if you will, because there's so many
things that have happened in the NBA that has never
thought would happen. I never thought that stars would get hurt,
that superstars would have serious injuries. I didn't think that
you could have the breakups that we've seen, whether it
be in Boston or in Houston. Maybe I'm just being naive.
Maybe that's just me. Okay, just we have to people

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break up. Relationships are not what they seem to be. Um,
guys have the opportunity to to leave and go and
go where they want to go now rather than where
they're contractually binded. People do get hurt and players don't.
Teammates don't get along with each other. That's not surprising.
That's been happening since the beginning of time, right, true story.
So now when when you have the opportunity to switch scenes, Yeah,

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but that's but that's part. Maybe it doesn't like it
right now, but you know this whole thing that's that's
their that's their problem. They deal with it. They're the
ones that want to shortened contract lens. So like if
you'd kept them six seven years and we wouldn't have
this problem of guys being able to move as as
quickly as they can. They just didn't want to lock
them up to a certain sets of money and have

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that that ability for guys to sit down and or
not play their contract out. And so this is what
you get with you saying that it is interesting because
I find it funny that on a day like today,
where the NBA Draft used to be one of the
NBA's marquee events, now with free agency being what it
is and the moves that we've seen, it almost seems
like a a secondary event or or an event that

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assists to what's happening in the real big pasture introduction
for the main event, which is free a right, So
they found a way to keep the NBA relevant during
summertime without actually having to bounce the ball. They have.
They have the introduction which is the draft, and the
draft has turned into the circus of trades and all
those things that set the tone for free agency. Free
agency last about a strong month, but in the middle

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of that is the summer league. So they have content
available to keep people interested in the NBA for these
next two months when the ball is not bouncing, and
that's the only time the ball isn't bouncing, because training
camps will be here just like that. Now, the big
name that we talked about, we're going to reveal right now.
It was earlier today on ESPN that Brian Windhorse said

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this about the NBA runner ups, you're still in flux.
One of the things that is being discussed right now
is that the Golden State Warriors would offer Kevin Durant
a five year contract fifty seven million dollars extra that
he could get with signing elsewhere, let him rehab and
then work with him to be traded potentially to New York,

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potentially to somewhere else. Be their way to sort of
take care of him monetarily after what he just went through,
and also protect the franchise to get some assets. If
that happens, the Knicks would be in tremendous position to
get back into it because they're going to have these
some young assets plus cap space. I agree that overall
the next future it looks okay over the next few years,
but I don't know if they're going to hit the

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Grand Slam. Two weeks ago, I could have explained to
you how they could have gotten Anthony Davis and Kyrie
Irving and Kevin Durant, And when you think of that,
you're thinking you're winning the championship next year. So the
reality now is just altered from that possibility. Now, this
news didn't shock you. It wasn't. It wasn't out of
the realm where someone like maybe me, being a bit naive,
would be like, oh, okay, this is a bit interesting

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that this wasn't shocking to you. Sign and trade has
happen all the time, but this is not a necessarily
signing trade. This is what Golden State wants. An ideal
situation for Golden State because what they get an opportunities
to rehab him and try to convince him. Allah Anthony
Davis right now, well before he got traded, convinced him
to stay, convince him that we we we've done what
we had to and if he doesn't want to stay, UM,

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then we'll trade him. But there is no guarantee that
he'll go where he wants to go. There there to
New York markets with assets, UM or other teams that
have assets, and there's no what I know about the NBA,
there is no guarantee that Kevin Durant will be traded
where he wants. He was about all about the Golden
State wars. They'll have all the leverage, they'll have the
ability to uh to play with his season when he's available. Um,

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and it just gives them more time. It just helps
them out. It doesn't help Kevin. Yes, seven million, he'll
make that regardless in any other city he goes to.
But if I'm the Knicks, I'll keep my assets in
signing myself. Why do I have to Why don't have
to work with you? Yeah, that's that and I agree
with you. That's where this is all. Where the crux
of this is is that it's who wants this Because

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on the outside looking in, you're saying, oh, Kevin Durant
can get the most money and get to go where
he wants to go, So this must be a Kevin
Durant thing. But this is a this is a solely
Golden State Warriors sort of deal because they're the ones
that would be losing Kevin Durant and not getting anything
in return. They're the ones that also would be on

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the hook if you keep Kevin Durant and you don't
know how he's going to respond from his Achilles injury,
and they're the ones that's gonna have to pay step
the paying step Car' gonna have to play Kay Thompson,
are gonna be stuck with Draymond green and free agency
in the year. They're the ones that have problems with
their cap and they don't have any assets to move
around or be ability to sign people right now, so
that works in their favor. And Kevin Durant ultimately thinking

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about himself because when the last time he thought about
Golden State, look where it got him. The Lebron trade
that people don't realize happened to the Heat was strictly
Lebron is going to Miami right like that was that's
the way for Lebron to get where he wanted to
at the at that time. And this is nothing like
that at all. And and that's that's where when when

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when you look at and the calves are okay, the
Lebron could get this money, he was going to Miami,
made the announcement they were Miami had a clear space. Yeah,
they need they needed the space to be able to
sign Lebron. So it worked. It worked for both parties.
But this doesn't work for New York because New York
now can keep Knocks and Barratt and whoever they sign
or or nurture and grow and have Kevin Durant like,

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why would I help you go to State? I mean,
you guys have had your run, you had your window.
How much do you think what happened in the finals?
Not not the injury. What I'm talking about is because
I think it does have something to do with it.
When you saw the makeup of the Golden State team
when Kevin Durant went down and all of a sudden,
that bench. I know there are other injuries, but that

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bench became a lot thinner. I think that this has
something to do with them. Of like, alright, we we
we kind of need to rebuild four through ten or
eleven on this team if we're really going to compete
for a championship. That's what happens when you're top heavy,
and that's what teams that are building, like the Lakers
are building, like, that's what happens when you put all
your money into a few guys and you trying to

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piece together your bench. That's unfortunately, you put all the
pressure on those guys to stay healthy and and this
is a business that guys have injuries that set them
down for a year or six months. Unfortunately, if they
have to play a lot of minutes to keep you
in contention from something, you put a lot of wear
and tear on their body, and you put them at
risk of not being able to to help you out

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when you need them too, because you have so much
money committed to them. So yeah, that that is That
was the prime example. They had to commit money to
Kevin Durant, commit money to Draymond, commit money to Clay,
and commit money to staff. And then now you piece
together your bench and you got money and andre Igodala,
who's ultimately possibly thinking about um retiring, Sean Livison thinking
about retiring those guys have to play more minutes. Those

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guys are not able to play more minutes. They were
comfortable in the set of minutes they were playing when
they had dominant players on the court. So now it
just puts a strain on them and they they seem
a little bit more vulnerable. I know I'm gonna sound
like I'm talking about out of both sides of my
mouth here, but I I understand where the Warriors were
coming from with those names that if if you could
get the Marcus Cousins on that deal, you're gonna do it.

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I didn't think it would work out for them, not
that the Marcus Cousins would get hurt. It didn't work out. Yeah, it,
but just it didn't work out. It's he can't blame
them for being like, this is our core and you
know what Biggy has been here for for the run.
Sean Livingston has been here for the run. You can't
blame them. But and this is where I'm gonna speak

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out of the other side of my mouth. For an
organization that prides themselves and has the provider to talk
about a forward thinking organization, I think that they were
caught up in there in their core and that there
wasn't a lot of I mean because I know Luney
got hurt, but there just wasn't a lot there for them.
I brought up the point yesterday they had to go

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to Australia to bring in Andrew Bogut to to provide
some defense at the hoop. That's never a good sign
when you're trying to win an NBA title. But let's
let's be realistic, right guys. Teams only have a window,
and teams are paying for a window. You pay during
the window and you pay after the window. But you
want a four to five year window of trying to

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win a championship or get multiple championships, that's all you
can build in the way this this this league is built.
You have teams are saying we're trying to build for
longevity and keep young stars. That's just not the way
it goes. You look at all the championship teams that
have had multiple championships, have been in contention for multiple championships.
It was over a time period. It was over uh,
the Miami Heat four years, um the Calf last year,

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four years, the Boston Celtics, they had a three year window.
The Golden State Warriors one of the best teams that
we've seen in a long time. They have a five
year window. And you'll see a crumble. You don't you
don't have ten years of young people in your team
and and stars now. It's just it's just it's hard
to build. If you want, if you want to have
a serious window at winning a championship, you'll have a

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short span. You have to do what you have to
pay the people you have to You see the Lakers
doing that right now, trying to take advantage of the
short three or four window that you have Lebron James
Anthony Davis in it get a younger star. But they'll
have to start doing some other things once Lebron James leaves.
But they're paying for a three to four year window
of winning a championship and then it would be a success.
So what Golden State did? They had a success at

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what they were supposed to do. Teams are trying to
get just a window of winning. You can't have a
decade of winning. It's just it's just it's just not
logical right now. That's what's so amazing about the NFL
is where if you have a quarterback, where you would think,
like in the NBA, because it is so individual and
player driven and star driven, that that's the case, but
it's actually the case in the NFL where if you

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have your quarterback, your window doesn't mean you're gonna win
Super Bowls, but your window can be a lot longer
because of that one guy. In the NBA, it's just
not the case. And the NBA you only have like
four or five teams really trying to win a championship.
You have a bunch of teams that are trying to
either tank and get lottery picks, guys who just want
to get into playoffs, just engaged at fan base. But
you have four to five teams really engaged in trying

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to win a championship. You look at it this year,
you had Houston, you had Golden State, you had Toronto
that was really engaged. Um the six years Studay hat
in there and try to Milwaukee and Boston, Milwaukee and Boston. Okay,
so five five six, and then after that everybody else
was just trying. It's just just just happy to be
in a playoffs tanking. But those guys do all their

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chips in to be in that window of winning a championship,
and you'll only have a couple of guys that are
that are willing to commit to that because that they
only have the assets to do that. Some teams don't
really have those assets and are just trying to do
what they can with what they have. And it's no
disrespect to Denver Portland who would have loved to have
gone to an NBA finals, But realistically, for a Denver
team that was on the outside looking in the past

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couple of years, them to make it and and if
they would have made it to a conference final, it
would have been something. The Blazers were shorthanded without Nurkics,
so they end up but championship or bust. Houston Rockets
were championship of Gus Toronto's were championship or bust. Golden
State was championship. It's a failure if we don't win
a championship. Those guys were like, we're gonna We're gonna
just do our best, try to be the best, see

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and we hope to win a championship. But it's not
a bust if we don't. It's not a scrap it off.
We don't. And the teams that are scrapping it or
looking to do what they have to because they had
championship dreams. He's Dante Jones, I'm Dan Buyer. They sees
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Dante and I are hanging out getting ready for an
NBA draft, But of course NBA free agency seems to
always gravitate towards everything, and Dante and I were just
talking about championship windows and and what the Warriors had
and what the Rockets had. Is the Boston Celtics window
closed with everything that has gone on so far in Massachusetts?

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Is that window closed? With Kyrie leaving and in al
Horford likely out. I don't know the windows closed completely
because you can never count Danny and j out from
doing something crazy and getting back in the Remember they
didn't think there was a window in Boston. And then
obviously they traded Pierce and Garnett and police Billy King,
and then they uh police Bryan Colangelo as well and

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got Tatum and that deal with Marquel Folk. So um,
I don't know if it's ever completely close. They still
have Jason Tatum, who I think can be a superstar
in the league. They still have Gordon Hayward, who if
he can get back to closer to what he was,
which was an All Star in Utah. Um, there's a
chance there, uh, you know, think about Obviously, the Hortford

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loss is the one that that hurt. Nobody's really sad
to see in Boston Kyrie Organ go um, he became
kind of unlikable and certainly the chemistry was not exactly
great there with Kyrie. But Horford it was a tough
deal because obviously he's been offered a four year deal
in accessible hundred millions, And if you're Danny Aings, are
you willing to give that to him when he'll be

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thirty seven years old at the end of that deal. Yeah,
I think that. I think you're absolutely right. There's no
need for panic in Boston at this point in time
because you do have a young asset in UM Jayson
Tatum and you and you have Jaylen Brown. Al Horford
was a big part of their success. UM. He's always
been a winner wherever he's going, He's set the tone.
He's an absolute professional. He's always about winning. UM. Those

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guys have, especially with Gordon Haywell, will be a year better,
a year more confident. It seems like that is a
situation ideal for winning. UM. Subtraction sometimes is the best
thing for an organization. You can have too much talent.
I think Terry Rose, You're would be a great fit
at point guard because he sets the tone defensively, he

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brings energy, he gives energy to other teammates. Like I
think they're in a in a position with their system
to still be successful, to be as good as they
were this year. UM. But but I think it lies
in al Horford. The presence like al Horfor a professional
like al Horfor who comes to play every game every year.
You know what you're gonna get from him, and he
he's happy in being himself. He doesn't want to be

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more than what he is, and that's just a winner.
But you know what, you know what the deal is,
don't said. The hard part is even without Horford and
that lockerly and and he's elite level right, elite level character,
all that thinking about the chemistry is not good now
again largely because of Kyrie. Um. I think Rosier is
going to be the key to this team going for it.

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I do. I think Danny and just gonna have to
match whatever. Yeah, whatever he's offered uh as a restricted
free agent, you know, hoping it's probably gonna be somewhere
in the like a thirteen maybe fifteen million a year
or something like that for you forty five. I think
they have to match it, and they're gonna play fast now.
They're gonna have to which they really didn't do with Kyrie.

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That that doesn't it doesn't really fit Kyrie as well, right,
Kyrie wants to play more in the half court. Um,
now they can play fast with the Rosier and try
to get back to the way they were a couple
of years ago. Jalen Brown is terrific and transition that
that's where he thrives. Tatum's good no matter how you
want to play him. Heyward, I think the same thing.
But now you gotta get a big You gotta get

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a big somehow um to be able to to kind
of fill the void of of Horford. And you're not
gonna find a big who did everything Corkford did on
both ends of the court and in the locker room.
You're just not how much. Jeff Goodman, by the way,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's dot Dave Jones.
I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today here
on the Doug Gottleib Show. Now, there's reports that maybe

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the Nets aren't is in love with Kyrie because they
wouldn't be able to bring in Kevin Durant. How much
is is there their truth to that or is there
more about all of the negativity that's to be pouring
out in that Boston, as you said, was more than
happy to maybe see him leave, that maybe they aren't
is high on bringing him in. Well, I had heard
from a source that the Knicks, when it was all

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out there about the Knicks with k D and Kyrie,
that the Knicks really didn't want Kyrie unless it was
with KD that they didn't want Kyrie on his own.
And you wonder, and I don't. I don't have great
info in this intel on with the Nets, but you wonder.
Obviously they've gotta be a little bit worried here because
it's a very similar situation than the Celtics a year

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and a half ago, great chemistry overachieved a bunch of
kind of tough guys who just you know, wanted to
go to battle and and and got the most out
of their talent. It's a very similar situation with the
Nets team this past year. And if you're saw Marks,
you've gotta be a little bit worried of bringing in Kyrie. Now,
if you can bring a Kyrie and k D, anybody

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would do that. I mean, anybody in the league is
going to do that. But if it's just I read,
you've got to be a little bit concerned with everything
that you've heard and the fact that again you heard
it in Cleveland and then when he got to Boston
it was like, Okay, you know what, maybe he'll mature,
maybe he'll grow up. This is the perfect situation for Cayree.
You he couldn't have asked for a better situation than
in Boston where he's got a coach and Brad Stephens.

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Let's mark as smart jack threes at a at a
crazy rate, like the freedom he gives players. Um, and
I've never heard anybody say a bad word about Brad Stevens.
And it didn't even work out in Boston. So you've
gotta be a little bit concerned. If if you're Sean Marks,
you gotta look at the situation like, we already have
somebody as good as Kyrie. Well, we had somebody's good

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at Kyrie, ind'angelo Russell. He took us, he took us
to the playoffs. He was a solid citizen, of solid teammate.
We've had success with him. We'll be taking a gamble
and taking somebody just like D'Angelo and we will be
more safer. We know what we had, we know the
commodity we have. We we were confidable, confident and comfortable
with him. Why take a chance with Kyrie if he's

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not with somebody that that can come in and we
know can lead and lead us to possibly having a
window at a championship. So I understand how they are
looking at this situation. They need somebody else to come
in with Kyrie because at best, he's the best, second
best option available if you and it's it's not a
detriment to his talent. It's just that he's not the

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one that's gonna lead you to a championship. But if
he's your second best guy, you do have a championship window. Now,
you're right, You're right, you can absolutely, I'm with you.
I mean, he's done it before. I think it's comical
the people that are trying to say that Kyrie could
end up in l A with Lebron again. I don't
think he wants to be his little brother again. I
do think. I do think I'm big. I'm big on

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that one. Je Lett tell you why because now that
you look at the landscape right now, now it's about
how I'm remembered. And when you look at the championships
and you look at the guys who have multiple championships. Yeah,
when when this thing is done and said, you're gonna
say how many how many rings that you have? Were
you number one? Number two? Were you're a champion? Scottie Pippen,

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Scotti Pipton was a number to his whole career. But
he's remembered by every one of that era because he's
a winner. And if you don't go to a situation
where you'll win, you will be forgotten. There's so many
NBA guys who put up points, who made All Star
teams that you have a hard time remember what they
actually did, what their teams really did. But the champions
are forever remembered, and if you have a window to

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be a part of something special, you at least have
to think about it. Because him and Lebron have had success.
And Anthony Davis, you have to say, he's better than
Kevin Love unfortunately, who who I love to death. But
Anthony Davis is a different type of talent. They could
go and do something really special if you put those
talents together. Do you think that Carrie is mature enough

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to understand what you just said. I don't. I think
his I think his business side is mature enough now.
I think experience has taught him that we at least
have to look at it because running my own show
is not what it what is hyped up to be.
Their guys who run their own shows, who get a
lot of points, and that's just that's a lot of

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a headache. But being in the finals every year is
a different life. And with with US three and Lebron,
a d at your doorstep. With US three, we could
be in the finals every year for the next four years,
and this could be your show going forward, and you
could be the show in l A. And I could leave,
and I could leave in three years. I could give
you the keys when you could have the keys. Now

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I know Lebron James mindset is not one of I'm
going to be the number one option two years from now,
but what I am going to be the most dangerous
guy on the floor. My mind is stronger than anybody
in basketball, and I'll be able to dominate, but there'll
be guys ahead of me on my team that have
to carry the load. He's Dante Jones, I'm Dad Buyer.

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Jeff Goodman joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Guys,
clarify this for me and Jeff, I want to start
with you. We sat here for the last couple of
days and being like, wow, Chris Paul the same, Well,
Chris Paul is Kyrie Irving. Just when when will will
he ever change? Because it's not just it's not just Boston,
and it's not just Cleveland, just things don't At some

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point wherever he is, things don't go well. I mean
even the season at Duke, and you guys would know
there's a lot more than me injured that year. They
get bounced in the sweet sixteen. At what point do
you start to recognize Jeff You just said that he's
not mature enough too, But I mean it always seems
that there's something with Kyrie. Why is that? Well, Like,
like Dante said, listen, he has a chance to change

(24:34):
in the narrative here, right if he goes somewhere, accepts
his role, becomes a number three for the next couple
of years behind Lebron and a D and they win titles. Yeah,
the whole narrative changes. Now. I don't know if the
Lakers can even afford. They've gotta make some moves here
to be able to afford to take Kyrie on, and
then how do they fill up their roster? Uh, you've

(24:55):
also got three injury prone guys. I don't want to
call Lebron injury prone. He's not. He got injured his
past year. But A D and Kyrie. I mean that's
the other thing is you still got to worry about
Kyrie's longevity and his knees uh and them holding up um.
But yeah, listen, I don't I don't think Kyrie and
Chris Paul are similar in terms of how do I

(25:17):
say it. I think Kyrie kind of says what's on
his mind and and and again he's moody, um, but
he doesn't hide his feelings. He's not phony. I think
a lot of people in the league feel like Chris
Paul is a little bit fraudulent and phony. Not not
with his work ethic, not with how hard he plays,
not any of that. But there's a lot of people

(25:38):
who don't get along with Chris Paul because again, they
they think he's a little bit fraudulent in some of
his words. He's Jeff Goodman for Stadium. Find him on
Twitter at Goodman Hoops. Listen to his podcast Good and Plenty.
Who's the guest this week? Jason Tatum? Last week, I'll
do a whole draft recap, kind of my my take

(26:01):
on the draft tonight. I'll have that up on the
podcast in the morning. You know, I do actually want
to ask you about the draft. I probably should have
done that since we just sat here and wax politically
about Kyrie for free agency. That stuff is way more
entertaining than tonight's draft, Like, well, we'll see what happens,
but it's not like tonight's draft is we know one, two,

(26:21):
and three. Yeah, I mean we know the draft starts
at four, but yeah, I was trying to explain that,
but that tonight's draft sets the tone for free agency,
and a lot of things can change according to tonight's
draft on on what's going to take place in free agency.
So this is our big warm up for to to
get ready for where people go because it's gonna set
the tone for for a lot of people's assets going forward.

(26:42):
I find it funny that the is Jeff said, it's
we know one, two, in three, but that the fourth
pick isn't. The player that gets picked is going to
tell us more about what is happening with that pick,
right right? I mean yeah, but let's look at a
situation like a guy like Terry Rozier, who I'm high on,
or D'Angelo Russell. Right, if the teams the knee point
guards pick point guards and investing them in the draft,

(27:03):
then that means that they won't throw crazy money at
Terry Rosier. And I think that he's gonna Terry or
and they have like the Lakers would be perfect for
one of for either one of those two guys. But
if they go and pick a point guard, it sets
the tone for what their next what their next need
is going to be, or where that Well, let me
let me ask Jeff this, and Jeff, I know you're
generous with your time, and we'll let you run after this.
But if the Pelicans take, say Darius Garland at number four,

(27:28):
and now you've just done a dealectly with Lonzo Ball,
doesn't that say something about what could happen with that pick?
Or the Lakers take Garland at four, doesn't that say something? Well,
here's what I think, and what I've been told is
David Griffin wants to move that number four pick. He
understands right now, Uh, there's not a ton of demand

(27:49):
for the number four pick. There's not a big difference
between four and ten in this draft. So he's trying
to move down. He's hoping to get maybe a player
on a good contract, you know, Robert Covington, something like that.
Many many Minnesota's at eleven, some somebody like that, Atlanta
eight and ten to move up. I actually think that's
a perfect marriage here. Atlanta could use a guy like

(28:11):
DeAndre Hunter, right. They need defense, they need length, they
need a guy, another guy, a big wing like that
Hunter could help. And in return, then you're if you're
David Griffin, you got eight and ten, and maybe you
could pull two more starters out of eight and ten,
maybe get a big in Jackson Hayes uh and then
get another wing like Rui Hachimura at ten. And I

(28:33):
think both teams would would benefit Chicago if they love
Darius Garland. Anybody loves Darius Garland, maybe they move up.
And that's where Griff is hoping that as we get
close to the draft here, the value goes up for
that number four pick. Somebody wants a Darius Garland. That's
the guy that I think will create more interest for

(28:55):
this pick if he's gonna deal it. Me and Me
and Hartman were talking this weekend about um that that
that type of swap from Atlanta taking swapping the number
four pick for eight and ten, taking somebody like Brandon
Ingram who's going to be stuck in New Orleans between
Zion and whatever they bring in and go and get
a four And if you could, if you could if

(29:17):
you could take Brandon Ingram and a tenth pick and
go get Robert Coverton, that's a win because you still
got the eighth pick, and you can get what you
ultimately wanted with with the eighth pick. So I think
there's that's a scenario that eighth and tin swap. That's
a scenario you can package stuff that you already have
with one of those picks and still ultimately accomplished your goal.
Or take them like you said, and go get a

(29:37):
Cam Reddish and and and and a big man with
the number ten and and take a gamble on on
one of the players that you think has a high
upside but might not be valued as much by other teams.
So yeah, swapping that for the for the eight and ten,
I think is what David Griffin is gonna end up
ultimately doing. I think Atlanta Atlanta right now is for

(29:58):
eight and seventeen. That's not enough. But I think if
they get to eight and ten, I think then David
Griffin makes the move. Jeff Goodman, we appreciate the time,
of course, follow him on Twitter at Goodman Hoops, check
out the podcast and ritom at Stadium Basketball Analyst appreciate it. Jeff,
good to talk to you. Thanks guys, appreciate it. Be
sure to catch live editions of the Doug Dot Leaps

(30:19):
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at once? Well, one major League Baseball team could try.
We'll tell you what that means. It is the Doug
Gotlips Show at Fox Sports Radio. I'll thank you very much, Ralph.
He's Dante Jones. I'm Dan Buyer. Jeff Passett of ESPN
dropped this a couple of hours ago that the Tampa
Bay Rays have gotten to go ahead from Baseball's Commissioner's
office to explore the possibility of being a two city team,

(31:05):
meaning at some point the Tampa Bay Rays could be
the Tampa Bay slash Montreal Rays, where they would play
some of their early season home games in the Tampa
Bay area and the rest of the season in Montreal. Now,
immediately when I heard this report, I thought, Okay, this
is to put the the screws to Tampa Bay or
to Tampa or St. Pete to try to get a
stadium deal done. But in the report pass it says

(31:29):
that it would be under the assumption that the teams
would the team would have two new stadiums to play in,
one in the Tampa Bay area that would need to
be built, and then one that would need to be
built in Montreal. How in the world, if you are
a professional athlete, there's something like this work, Dante, I
get it. In the NFL, maybe you play a game
in London, you play a couple of games in Buffalo,

(31:50):
like the Bills did. But when you're playing a hundred
and sixty two in baseball, if you're playing at two
in the NBA, how in the world does this work? Um?
My question is what happens to housing, Like do I
have two homes? Do have the rent in two places?
That just that's just that's kind of nuts because if
the team, the team doesn't put you up, So would

(32:11):
you be treating it like it at away game with
a team, would put the team in the hotel? That
would like that would be more stress on your team. Yeah,
if I have a children, which where do my kids
go to school at? Yeah? I think I think it
would be impossible for that, Like if you're a free agent,
you could be like, okay on the city or yeah,
it would be it would be atrocious because because they

(32:31):
treat they treat it like in the concept. Okay, yeah,
the concept is cool, but then you have real people
executing this plan and they have real lives with real families,
with real responsibilities. Um, you're gonna force me to pay
rent or buy homes and two and two markets. No,
I'm not doing that. I even think that with baseball,
And I've asked some baseball guys this because spring training

(32:52):
ends and all of a sudden, the regular season starts
in three days. So there are guys who are at
spring training, maybe in Arizona for for the month, and
obviously get called up and you're in the big leagues
and now you have seventy two hours to figure out
where the heck you're gonna live in you know, whatever
big league city that you're in, I mean in Major
League Baseball, of of having that offseason, of trying to
figure out, okay, when does the schedule come out? So
I need to know when I can buy this condo

(33:15):
or rent this condo, and then I need to know.
I needed not that a lease is gonna matter to
a professional baseball player about it's sometimes somebody could, though
not everybody makes the huge money, right Yeah, I I
think this is an absolute mass. This has got to
be Major League Baseball saying all right, you're gonna get
a new stadium, and if you don't, we'll just put
you in Montreal. And then if Montreal gets the new stadium,

(33:36):
then the league can end up expanding with another city
to thirty two teams. That's I think the real, the
real crux of this. He's Dante Jones. I'm Dan Buyer.
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(34:38):
NBA Draft is tonight at seven o'clock Eastern Time, four
o'clock Pacific. The Pelicans at the first overall pick. Doesn't
seem to be much drama there, but there could be
some drama as we play a game here on Fox
Sports Radio. This is Game time side on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. Ralph Irvan joins us. Hello, Ralph, it is

(35:03):
great to have you. What game are we playing today? Today?
We are playing? All right, I got I got a
quick I got a quick slide this in Actually, you
know what, I've got a tweet that is your gold.
I'll save that for the end of the segment. Okay,
it's something you don't want to miss. We're gonna play guests.
Sudante's gonna give us some clues, and we gotta guess
who he's talking about. All right, yeah, here it is?

(35:26):
All right? First off, well, this this gentleman is recovering
from a medical incident and has been released from the hospital.
Guess who is recovering from a medical incident and is
recovering in the hospital. No, he's been he's been released
from the released from Okay, alright, who is it? Yeah,

(35:48):
all right, there it is. That's right. Then Gilbert had
a stroke more than three weeks ago and was released
from Beaumont Hospital in the Detroit area, and we'll continue
to go through an intensive rehab program. No, I don't
want to put Ralph on the spot, but I'm the
one that usually does guess who win ducks here, So
I always start guess by and then you give it out,

(36:08):
so that that's that's how we do it around. No,
I'm saying Ralph messed it up, but he didn't mess
it up. I'm just saying that. Yeah, I'm saying Ralph
did mess it up without messing it up. Believable, that's
all right, go ahead, Yes, who's mad at me? Who

(36:30):
will not be on the air at Who will not
be on the air at ESPN? You got geez LaVar Ball? Alight?
Probably me too, right, Dan John Ramos. It's very possible
if you try to switch gears on me. Buyer. There's

(36:51):
that Cliff Claven. There's a lot of different answers that
you could you could do their. Yes, ESPN has said
they have no plans moving forward to have him back
on the air after he made comments to well the
wife of Jalen Rose. Alright, Molly Kiram is her name? Yeah,
that too? Ye, Yeah, she's she's got a roll there
as well. So alright, we're two for two. All right,

(37:13):
We've got one more. Alright, guess who said he wants
to own a major shoe company? Oh, Dante, you know
this one? Guess? Uh No, I don't know this one.
Struck out on this. You might also want to be
a sheriff's deputy. Oh, can I go ahead? No, I'm not.

(37:37):
I was gonna say, shack, probably he wants to buy reebok,
but he is. But he is a sheriff's deputy already.
That's what I'm saying, Like, that's that's why I bowed out.
Isn't he already? Well, he's honorary, he's not. That's the
same thing. You know what. No, no, no, no, no, no no,
you kind of word tricked me. Well he is because

(37:59):
a deputy be ok. I got one for you guys. Yes,
who I had a good working relationship with about ten
years or so ago that has no recollection of it anymore. So.
I had worked with the guy for you know a
little bit back and forth about ten years ago, but
has no recollection. Yeah. I think he does a really

(38:23):
good job and he guesses um dog Doug forgets about
me every day. But John Ramos doesn't. Doug Gottlieb, what
about what about? Okay? Uh, the answer is Jeff Goodman,
who he just had on Listen when I said, hey, Jeff,
give the talk to you again. Listen to this joining

(38:43):
us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Guy, I haven't
talked to in a long time, but it's great to
have him on stadium. Basketball analyst Jeff Goodman joins us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Jeff, how are you?
What's up? Man? It has been a while? The man
he gave me the man. That's like what we thought.
Everybody what you can't remember their names? Like, what's up? Man?

(39:07):
My favorite one is what's up guy? Oh goodness, I thought, Hey, Dan,
get to talk to you again? Yeah he did. I
gotta what's up? Man? From this is game Time on
the Duck Gottli Show. Probably got sick me. Jeff, what's

(39:30):
going on in North Carolina? What's happening with the Celtics?
What's going on here? Hey? Can you come on this show?
Can you do that? Uh? Yeah? He dropped the man
on me, the hey what's up man? We had a
host here years years ago. Every time you had seen
me and didn't know my name, he would say man,
louder and more emphatically, like what's up man than the day, Hey, man, man,
what's up? And it just never would get my name.

(39:51):
Oh those things happen. He is Dante Jones. I'm Dan Buyer.
Thank you very much to Ralph Irvin for that game
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I've got to pay off the teas of the tweet
that that I received. And there are two tweets that
I think I need to read. Our friends at w
NFL in Green Bay tweeting us at the Expos if

(41:17):
they do move, or the Rays if they do move
to Montreal where the Expos used to play, they should
be known as the x Rays. That was very good.
That was Oh guess up? Count it Dante's first look
that he gave me. You know, look, I got five
looks in one show. I think the last time we
did today was the first look that I got from

(41:38):
Dante that says you're crazy and I'm gonna blame it
on w n I didn't see that coming. It was
out of nowhere. And then Tim Winters says, don't feel
bad to me. His current principle doesn't know my name.
He says he went in his office to sign up
to drive the bus as a sub and the principle
on the speaker, Phil And says, Hey, Gil, I've got

(42:00):
a man here that wants to drive your boss. I'll
just put them on and way to narrow it down.
Hey man, what's up. Good to talk to you. It's
been a while, all right. NBA Draft is tonight, and
I think that the NBA Draft is definitely changed. I remember,
I vividly remember the night that Chris Hardaway and Anthony
Chris Webber and Anthony Hardaway were traded for each other

(42:21):
when Orlando had won the lottery for the second straight year.
They had the number one overall pick. Magic take Chris Webber,
Golden State ends up taking Penny Hardaway and then you
have that swap like those are the Those are the
things that that I remember, and Dante, I also remember
the times when maybe if the sixth overall pick, you

(42:42):
still could get a guy that maybe could be the
face of your franchise, maybe a guy that could be
the Robin to the Batman that's already there as you're
trying to build something. And I don't see that, not
only in the twenty nine team draft, but really in
any recent draft. Once you get out of the top
two or three. There is no well, this guy is

(43:03):
really a a a great fit, this is gonna be
the guy. It's all about possibility and potential. And I
don't think it was like that twenty years ago, twenty
five years ago. The the this of what we've got
in the NBA is just all about potential. Maybe it's
how the game changed, but we don't see the franchise
cornerstones being drafted. You're just keeping your fingers crossed hoping

(43:26):
you're drafting those cornerstones for the franchise. I kind of disagree, okay,
because let's hear it. When when the Spurs drafts Quai
they knew something we didn't know. I was on the
Pacers at that point in time, traded George Hill for him,
like they wanted that pick. They wanted that guy. They

(43:46):
knew about it. Uh. The when the Pacers drafted Paul George,
he wasn't a top two pick, but they knew he
was going to be the cornerstone for there. You really
thought that they were like, this is going to like
Paul George is going to be the the All Star player.
Really you think at that at that mom Larry Bird
told me that, like, listen, we got a kid that

(44:07):
is going to be an All star. Um, we need
we need some help in developing him. But he's going
to be an All Star in our league. Um, and
you might have to lose some minutes to him because
we have to get him going and and and start
his trajectory early. So like they knew these things, they're there.
Jimmy Butler was a top twenty pick, Like they're guys

(44:27):
who are there are guys who have been All Stars
and have been like foundational pieces that have not been
that they have not been in top five picks. I am,
and even though top five picks sometimes most of the
time they don't even really work out. I with with
the way that the NBA draft is, it's now it's
about trying to draft the guy to hit that home run. Well,

(44:49):
I think like you would, you would try to get
guys that we knew more about the college players years ago.
I mean, we knew Chris Webber spent two years in college.
You knew what he was gonna do. You knew what
Penny harder Away he was gonna do. Heck, kind of
know what Calbert Cheney was going to do. Like back
in those days. Here all of a sudden last year,
if you're drafting tenure, hoping Zack Collins in the draft

(45:12):
works out for Portland, like like that's hopefully he'll end
up being a guy that that we can use. But
I don't think they're saying that, like all right, we've
got we got Zach Collins. He's going to be our guy.
And I just don't think that in the draft, like, yeah,
there maybe a Paul George Jannas was taking Steph Curry
like they were. They were looking at these guys like
you know, Bradley Bill wasn't a top two pick, so

(45:37):
you said out of one and two, like you know,
they look at corner stones. Now you can find these people.
It's all about you doing your homework and you and
you know what you're drafting and not jumping on waves
and like oh this guy is great. Because even um
who was the Calves pick, Anthony Bennett, Yeah, I was
a man at home screaming like no way, Like what
what do you guys doing? They thought they had a day,

(45:59):
they had their inner stone, a dominant and rough they
messed that totally up. And and just because you draft
somebody number one, does not you put too much pressure
on him. Like even let's look a let's look at
Zion RJ. Barrett was supposed to be the number one
pick this draft, So you could possibly get the best
Pralion the draft at number three, who could be the

(46:21):
best who people have thought to be the best. It's
a possibility. Zion has talent you can't pass up on,
and it's an opportunity that you really can't miss. But
there's still room for guys to get it. You look
like a guy like Cam Reddish, who the people in
his class say he was the toughest guy for them,
the guard that's his peers. You gotta look at where
his peers rank him rather than where all the guys

(46:42):
who speak on potential, because those guys can get out
of control sometimes. But I also think that the difference
is their front offices that know what they're doing. There's
something that there's a there's a very few front officers
I know what they're doing, and they're and they they
live off of those those front officers that don't know
what they're doing. Spurs know what they're doing. They always
seem to find the right pick at the right spot. Um,

(47:05):
you guys, you got you got you gotta David Griffin,
he he knows, he knows what he's doing. Over there.
You have Messiah Jerry like he Pascal Siakam. He could
end up being the best player on that Toronto Raptors team.
And and Um Massiah was deliberate about getting that kid
who he saw something in and saw his growth and

(47:26):
saw that he don't be playing basketball. Did his homework
for playing basketball for five years, did his homework on
the kid, knew his work ethic, like you gotta really
do your homework and not ride waves or or not
depend on people who are really not during their jobs.
If I were to ask you, by the way, he's
got the jones. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug
Otlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. Out of the last
six NBA drafts, of the top ten picks, so of

(47:49):
the sixty players. I know I'm not trying to set
you up, but I just I think that these numbers
are interesting. How many All Stars do you think came
from th sixty picks over the last six years for
the top ten picks. And it's not it's not a
matter of if it's right or wrong, it's just how
many All Stars are the last six years. Sixty people

(48:11):
I think first time or multiple just just could be
a multiple All Star, but have been named to an
All Star team at least one All Star team. Let's say, okay,
there are six, okay, okay, but there's another guy overlooked
that that will be an All Star coming up. Devin Booker.

(48:32):
M hm, he's on track to be the best shooting
guard in the game. Very good, yes, absolutely, no, no, no,
he could be great. I'm a Devin Booker fan. It's not,
but it's what I what I what I need you
to understand. It's not. It's also fit. It's the organization
putting the right piece around him for them to be successful.
So it's not necessarily the pick. It's the organization's job

(48:55):
to make that pick be what it's supposed to be.
There's also a lock jam of really good veterans that's
tough to break through. Like in the Western Conference when
it was you still have that of of breaking it up.
But when you're trying to break through when you have
hardened staff Westbrook, Damian Lillard like to get a to
get a spot on a Western Conference All Star team
is difficult if you're a backcourt player. The point is,

(49:19):
though with this is there were six All Stars. Only
two of those players in that sixty have received any
All NBA notoriety. So the point is more of it
takes a long time, Like it takes like we're like
looking for these guys, and I felt like twenty and
twenty five years ago, these guys were immediately brought in

(49:39):
the you know, Penny Hardaway is playing in the finals
with Shock, and you know in two or three years
and I know it's a rare circumstance, but these guys
were it seemed to be exploding on the scene a
lot quicker. We don't have any All Star appearances from
the last two NBA drafts. You only have Ben Simmons
from the draft and the only guys that have been
drafted in the top ten. And that's what I'm talking about,

(49:59):
because they're our g ms that will find guys that work,
be honest, was the fifteenth overall pick. Joel Empiade and
Victor Oladipo are the only two top ten picks of
the last six drafts to receive All NBA recognition. It
just it takes a while, it really does. That's the
thing that that I say about this of of finding
out who's gonna make it, who's who's going to be

(50:21):
surrounded by a good team, there's so much it's a chance.
And I'm using the air quotes on this, but it
takes a lot for these guys to develop. And that's
also what's different from it's now hard to make it
on an All NBA on our Star team without winning
and top ten pick picks usually not putting winning situations.
So now the voters are are counting winning and not

(50:43):
just taking stats in consideration. I think that was a
thing of that time as well, of that era. If
you were putting up great numbers and you're exciting to watch,
you have an opportunity to to to probably make an
All Star team or make an All NBA team just
because of what you were doing. But there's more, there's
more attention paid to if they're in a winning situation.
Look at Atlanta Hawks. They got four All Stars one

(51:04):
year and Kyle Corford was one of them. And not
saying he wasn't he's not. He's he was a bad player,
but he's just he's not he's not your type of talent.
Draymond Green has made an All Star appearance because of winning.
People are are attaching winning to these accolades. Now, which
which which? Which? Which? Kind of pushing that envelope because
the top ten picks are usually not in winning situations.

(51:27):
Teams are tanking usually and those top ten teams are
usually trying to get multiple picks. Like it's a it's
a tough situation for a kid to be able to
fight through that because he may not be put in
a right situation because the team has taken three years
to to build through the draft, Like that is a
process that goes building through the draft right now, and
it doesn't come with winning, So then that puts them
in a bad situation to get those accolades in steen

(51:49):
Ben Simmons man an All Star game from the draft,
it was Chris Stops, Porzingis, Karl Anthony towns In, D'Angelo
Russell have been All Stars. I mentioned Joel Embiid. He's
the only guy in the top ten foreen to make
an All Star team. Victor Oladipo the only one from
draft that you kind of referenced with. Bradley Beale had
a d Damian Lillard and Andre Drummond all being named

(52:11):
to All star teams in a d Dame and Drummond
received all NBA notoriety. He's go ahead, what was he
was he seven? Was it? Just? Yeah? So it's not
not top two dame. I mean I know there was
also seven years ago, like like, that's there's your point. Yeah,

(52:37):
that's that's also the point that that we have. It was,
oh he was six, Harrison Barnes with seven, So I
just double check that. But yeah, that's that's what you've gotten.
There's some interesting names that are at fifteen and when
you scrolled down in different drafts or at eleven. Yeah,
but the point being, as it takes a while. He's
Dante Jones. I'm Dan Buyer. Get Dante on Twitter at
Dante one. I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox Report earlier today,

(53:00):
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(54:04):
and everything else. That no problem. Let's let's start with
this report that that popped up earlier today. If the
Warriors entertaining the fact that maybe they'd be interested in
trading Kevin Durant and allowing him to get the full
max the the amount of money that you would want,
but also getting some assets in return, How realistic is

(54:25):
that scenario for the Golden State Warriors or Kevin Durant
for that matter. I'm sorry, they're just taking me through
the gate here at Fox Sports. So if you could
do me a favor, repeat that. Yeah, no problem. What
was your favorite highlight of Dante Jones's NBA career? No,

(54:46):
I'm just kidding. Total that was? That was Dante Jones
playing uh playing a huge uh well not huge, but
vital role in the the Cavaliers. I mean basically getting
Lebron James this championship in Cleveland. Huge role, a three

(55:06):
minute stretch that is arguably the best three minute stretch
in Cleading Cavalier's basketball. I'm right there with you, Dante.
The actual question, Rick, was there was the report earlier
today that the Warriors could trade Kevin Durant to get
assets in return allowing him to get that money. How
much validity is there to that scenario. Well, I think

(55:29):
it's I think everything's on the table. I think it's
a possibility. The idea. I mean, when we talk about assets, look,
maybe a second round pick, uh, maybe a salary cap
exception because of what they lose. It's not it's not
as if They're like, they're going to trade r. J.
Barrett for for KD because they don't have to, the

(55:51):
only reason that the Warriors would be willing to do
that is uh is knowing that they have no chance
of keeping him and seeing if they can salvage. We
saw the exact same thing with Lebron James going to Miami.
If I'm not mistaken, that ended up being a sign
and trade deal. UH so that the Cavs got a
little something out of it and that Lebron was able

(56:13):
to get uh more money, that would be the deal.
And the reason the Knicks would do it is because
they want to keep Katie happy. So I could see
a scenario in which it happened. But it's not going
to change the template dramatically for the Warriors. It's not
as if they're going to get something back that's going
to uh significantly change uh their their fortunes next year,

(56:35):
which just I don't know about you guys, but this
is this might be the roughest fall we've ever seen
for a championship caliber team, going from what they've they've
been to what they will be next season. No, I
know it's not looking the Miami he of Lebron James left.
But um but but um, but that would be the
latest sign and trade what they were talking about, like

(56:57):
they were talking about holding Katie for a year, letting
rehab an injury eating him later when it's conducive for them.
It just looks like a weird situation where they're just
trying to get a year to basically help Katie or
or pressure Katie to stay, or or tamper Katie to stay.
That's just why if I'm kid Katie and I know
him leaving or we've agreed to move me after I

(57:19):
finished rehabbing, why would I want to be in your organization?
I would want to be around the players that I'm
eventually play with. Correct, Yeah, no, I would, I would
think so. I mean, look, he there's there is a
money factor as far as what he would make in
this this next year if he opts in and then
he hits free agency and he hits uh and he

(57:39):
signs a big deal. But there's no question that he
would be doing the Warriors of Favor and all that.
And I'm still trying. You know, what I've heard of
late is that he's really not enthralled with the Warriors
at this stage because because he's uncertain about what he
was told as far as the possibility of the injury

(58:02):
and uh, the chances of an injury as a result
of the cash strain, and we heard Steve Kerr say it,
they didn't think there was any way that he would
be able to further injury himself by playing that clearly
was not was not accurate, And so how much did
they lend they lead Kadi to believe the same thing?

(58:24):
And how is he now looking at the prospect of
having to rehab for a year and having his free
agency thrown in the turmoil because he was given a
misconceived idea about the risk involved Rick Buker joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports Want NBA analyst.
He's Dante Jones. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb. Yeah,

(58:44):
I mean with the Lebron thing, Lebron and made his
decision like I'm going to the heat, you know, to
point out if okay, let's make this work. This seems
like a totally Warriors angle to to move upon to
be like, okay, then we don't lose anything. At least
we get something. Uh. In turn, what what about the
situation in Houston. Now, with this report two days ago

(59:06):
saying Chris Paul wants a trade that he had unsalvageable
for a situation between him and James Harden, how much
validity is that and could even a deal be done
with Chris Paul because of his contract. I honestly talking
to people around the league because I thought if the Rockets,
my first thought was, if the Rockets are going to

(59:26):
change things up, um, they have to move Chris Paul
in order to do that. And uh. And I called
around and there wasn't anybody who said that they were,
you know, champing the bit, largely because of that salary
and the feeling that, you know, what we've seen of
Chris Paul is as good as we're going to see.
It's not it's going to get worse, not better, and

(59:48):
that that contract is simply an albatross that that no
one is willing to to acquire. Now, Darryl Moore is
doing everything he can to tamp down this idea that there's, uh,
you know, there's there's there's friction within the organization. They're
gonna have to find a way ultimately to make it work.
I just don't see a way in which they're gonna

(01:00:09):
be able to move CP three. And I don't know
about you, guys, but this idea that they're gonna add
Jimmy Butler to the equation, first of all, I don't
know how and to considering the experience he's had a
couple other players, I don't know that that's exactly the
solution to your chemistry problems. I think I'll give you
a way to UM to get Jimmy Butler. Right if
the Knicks strikeout in free agency coming up right, well,

(01:00:31):
they don't have any early commitments, and guys, the ones
that you want to go away, you send you send
CP UM, You send CP into the Knicks for the
cap space be able to to to go out and
get open up some money for Jimmy. But you could
I could see a situation in New York where they
sign possibly CP and Al Horford their young core and

(01:00:52):
try and and uh maybe a resurgen of Carmelo Anthony
on a on a minimum, and try and take advantage
of a conference that is not put together right now.
CP on CP has been fighting in the West for
so long that the Eastern Conference maybe we're kind of
like what happened with Jason Kidd. Jason Kid went to
the Knicks for a year to the end of his

(01:01:13):
career and had the ability to go out and take
advantage of the East winter, it was down a little bit,
and still put together a to a two year run
of something where they could be formable, maybe a playoff
team that's better than where they are now. It sounds
like a very nick thing to do because they're kind
of stuck at this point in time. Yeah, but if

(01:01:35):
I'm looking at the way that uh that Scott Perry
has operated in various places, I've just been told by
the Knicks that they're not going to be much like
when Mark Jackson went to the Warriors. We're not going
to be the same old Warriors. We're not going to
be the same old Knicks, and that they are not
going to operate from a place of desperation in we

(01:01:57):
have all this cap space and we have to we
have to do something now. We have to spend it
now and mortgage the future in order to do that.
It's why they bailed on the whole Anthony Davis sweepstakes,
because they're like, we don't want to give a ransom.
We don't need to be over competitive this very next
year just because we've got this cap space. I the

(01:02:20):
plan that you put together, I could see it, and
I could see ultimately where they would be competitive next
year in doing so, but their future they wouldn't have
to give up any assets. They just pray that pipe
they want to pay to somebody else, because you could
have probably overpaid somebody. But at least in CP you
have a commodity, you have leadership Al Horford, you'll have defense,

(01:02:42):
you'll have a veteran, you have somebody set the tone
for their organization, be foundational pieces with their young core,
especially if you have r. J. Barrett, Like r J
Barrett next to CP. Show them the rope cepeka hole,
the reins a little bit. They have athletes like it
could be some interesting on New York's plate. That's all
I would say. Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not saying
that that plan wouldn't work, but I just the CP

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three is it's not a buyer's marker. It's not a
seller's market right now for him. And you're right in
terms of the leadership and everything else, but in terms
of just the overall ability to play and stay healthy.
And what he's got two more years after this that
price year, I mean he's talking about you're paying forty
million dollars for a guy that's no longer an All

(01:03:31):
Star and no longer going to be. I think that's
just I just don't see the Knicks taking that approach
based on what they've told me to this point. Now
there's always the caveat Kim Dolan says, No, I want
to be competitive. I thought I was gonna get Kadie.
I thought I was gonna get Kyrie. I thought I
was gonna get Kauai. I thought I was gonna get somebody.

(01:03:51):
I want somebody here in order to sell tickets and
fill seats. And then maybe that that changes everything. But
I don't get the sense that the US that the
Knicks are right, we gotta be competitive or bust um
mode as of right now. You tell me right you
think you think cpd'angelo Russell was an All Star in
the East this year, You don't think CP could be

(01:04:14):
not that healthy part of it. But Kyle Lowry's uh,
he's a champion now. But Kyle Lowry is a point
guard that has made the All Star team in the East. Yeah, well,
look like CP has that star power. The vote is big.
You would have Mitchell Robinson, Al Horford, Kevin Knox, r J. Barrett, Alonso,
Treer like you would have depth and what you need

(01:04:36):
for the short period of time. Why you can't buy
what you want? I'll leave it alone. I'm done. I
will say this, D'Angelo Russell to me, was a unique
All Star. I think if if if healthy, there might
have been a couple other guys that have been buying
for that. I think he was. I think he was
a Wally Zerbiak All Star and that he was a

(01:04:57):
guy who benefited from a lot of good players around him.
He ended up having a great season and he got
the greatest benefit out of it. I don't know that
I'm ready to make D'Angelo Russell a perennial All Star
at this point, or to say that's far and away.
He was the best player on that team. LeVert doesn't
get hurt. I think he's the guy who might get
the nod true store. Rick Buker joining us here on

(01:05:18):
Fox Sports Radio. Rick's going to be a part of
the Fox Sports Radio NBA Draft show coming up at
seven o'clock Eastern time. He's our Fox Sports one NBA
analyst and actually he'll be sitting next to me tomorrow.
Is we recap the draft and free agency? Final one
for you Rick as we're gonna let you go. But
Dante showed me the pictures earlier. They are on the internet.
Kawhi Leonard getting moving boxes from a home depot in

(01:05:40):
uh In, Canada. What what do we know? I go
to How does this change Kawai leonards possible destination? Uh, well,
you know what, I didn't expect him to spend the
summer in Toronto regardless, so I don't um, I don't
know how much stock to putting that look. I was
just told yesterday by an executive a team that at

(01:06:03):
one point had interest in Kauai I thought they might
be in the market. That, um, the Toronto has a
fighting chance to keep him. The odds on favorite remains
the Clippers, the Lakers. I think that they have a
strong shot at landing him. Obviously they've got a maneuver
some things cap wise to be able to offer him
the max. I've heard for a while that the Clippers

(01:06:24):
were the odds on place for him to go, but
we had also heard that he bought a place in
Toronto and that turned out not to be true. So
I'm going to need more than moving boxes from maybe,
But you know what, he's the kind of guy. He
might be helping a friend who knows. And that's another point. Yeah, like,

(01:06:44):
who's is Kawhi Leonard really boxing up his own stuff?
He can't get him down and really meticulously pack his stuff,
or you could be putting this stuff in storage. I
kind of see him. Yeah, I also see him as
being a guy like, you know what, if he needs
to fixes sink, he's not hiring a guy rentful. The

(01:07:07):
NBA offseason is eight days, okay. If he's getting moving boxes,
that's gonna tell us something. That's all I'm gonna say.
I mean, he's he could keep the place and not
live there for two months. If he needed like that,
that would be that would be fine. And you show
up again. I think there's something to the moving boxes,
unless maybe it's a bigger place, and you know bigger.

(01:07:27):
He's a guy who collected DVDs and he just doesn't
know what to do with that. He needs a case logic.
That's what he needs. We appreciate it. I'll talk to
you tomorrow and we'll be listening to you tonight here
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within the I Heart Radio app search f s R
to listen live. It is the Doug Gottli Show. He's
Dante Jones. I'm Dan Buyer, and we welcome in our
good friend. John Ramos is our technical producers. He's gonna
be sitting in the hot seats to play a game
that we like to call Keeping Up with the Jones
is here. It is again. I miss you, John. Ready

(01:08:13):
to go? This is always a fun game. So we
have we have we have some some notes about Dante's life.
We also have some notes about Tommy Lee Jones's life
and Julio jones Is life. So Jones gotta determine whether
these scenarios have occurred to Dante Jones, Falcons Wide Receiver,

(01:08:34):
Julio Jones or Oscar Award winning actors and how I
should say it, Johnny, Ry guys, Tommy Lee Jones, All right, John?
In our first scenario and keeping up with the Jones
is which Jones has a son that had aspirations to
be an f one or Indy car driver. Was it

(01:08:56):
Tommy Lee Jones, Julio Jones or Dante Jones. That's like
good first question. Yes, I'm gonna say that would be uh,
Tommy Lee Jones. No that Unfortunately you don't listen to
my show right out fairness, Dante. If John hates Steve Harper,

(01:09:22):
my son, I took him to the ind and he
fell in love with it. But now he's like five
ten now, so I think those aspirations are going out
the window. But he was enamored by the speed and everything,
and he was like he tried to change his career
path at that point. The back seats to fit a

(01:09:42):
five ten teenager and keeping up with the Joneses. John
is all for one okay? Which Jones speaks fluent Spanish,
Julio Jones, you would think, right, got him? Tommy leads you,
Tommy leads you. Jones, by the way John put the
owen Jones so far with the number that he's gone right, Oh,

(01:10:08):
which Jones was once hurt falling off of a horse.
Was it Tommy Lee, Jon, Julio Jones or Dante. So
we've done, Dante, You've done. Tommy Lee so I'm guessing
it's Julio. This time it was Tommy Lee. Question. He
is a He is a polo aficionado and fell off
a horse once and was uh the cause of the

(01:10:33):
accident horseplay? Okay, whose first name is actually a nickname?
Is it Dante Jones, Tommy Lee Jones or Julio Jones.
First name is actually a nickname? I gonna say the
name to myself like a nickname. Julio, Hey, Julio, I

(01:10:55):
would say Dante. It should have sat my first si
serious spell it can't. Real first name is David. We'll
call Dante for sure. Yeah, yeah, Julio Jones. Real name

(01:11:16):
is Quintaurus Lopez Jones. I'd say keep that first. Yeah.
They nicknamed his mom nicknamed him Julio in seventh grade.
Oh what else did again? Quintaurus quint Taurus Lope Lopez Jones.
I feel better about mine now? What Jones is a
novice bowler, I'd say, Dante strike? Yes, you got not

(01:11:46):
strike one like you hit a strike as a bowler. Yes,
very nice lane. Finally, yes, my grandfather spent a lot
of time bowling, even like my oldest son is a
really really really really good bowler, but we spent a
lot of time on the lanes when we're not playing basketball.
All right, Johnny got two more? Are you ready? I
am ready? Yes? What Jones has recently been spotted wearing

(01:12:06):
a Fannie pack. I know Coatina and Mobili were a
Fannie pack this week during the show during Yes, Yes,
who was you keeping on it? I'm gonna say, Julio
Dante Jones, Yes, yes, yeah, I had it coming in
right now, had coming in. I put mine down when

(01:12:31):
I came in right Why I keep it the whole show?
It's too walking on? John is the Miami Marlins of
this game. The winning percentages is strong. Alright, Final one?
You're ready? Yes? Once lost a one hundred thousand dollar
diamond while jet skiing. Dad, I'm gonna give you these

(01:12:52):
are the hardest questions in They're really hard. I'm gonna say, Julio,
that is correct, That is correct. I was wearing diamond earrings.
I was looking at you like, how did you know
we My wife lost a wedd ring in the ocean
one time, almost like the same situation really almost killed her. Geez,

(01:13:14):
did you see it? Like floating down? And um, I
was why was that I was Andre Gandario's wedding and me,
Draymond and Jermaine O'Neil took our wives and we went
on a little um like a little little boat and
we're hanging out and and we all jumped into the water.
And then my wife was swimming. Look at me in
my eyes and she said, she said, oh we were

(01:13:35):
talking about she's look she's patting and looking at him. Oh,
my ring just fell off. I said, what do you mean?
And I dove down, But it was over at that
point time. That's why I tell my wife I never
wear my ring. No, I'm I'm just kidding. Lass. It's
on here by. I'll give you an easy one. John
who played in an historic college football game where his
team rallied from a late sixteen point deficits to their rival.

(01:13:58):
Historic college football game. Yeah, Tommy Lee Jones, Tommy Lee Jones, Yeah,
I tricked Yeah, yeah, yeah, from Harvard. Yeah. I played
at the Harvard Yale game. Harvard Batlin. All right, he's
yeah he did. Hey, you got to you know, the

(01:14:18):
two out of nine is not bad when you're coming
off the bench to pinch it. He's Dante Jones. I'm
Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I'm
Dan Buyer. He's Dante Jones. We are sitting in for
Dug today on The Gotlip Show. That's because Doug's been
busy this week filling in for Colin Cowherd on The Herd.
We'll hear a bit of that next in a segment
we like to call So. While Doug was sitting in

(01:14:59):
the host he had Jason McIntyre on, and Jason McIntyre
is going to be a part of our NBA Draft
coverage here on Fox Sports Radio starting at seven o'clock
Eastern time with Rick Buker and Chris Bruce Sard and
McIntyre gave some insight into maybe there being a little
bit more to the decision for Kawhi Leonard. He's one
he wants to build that global brand. If you look

(01:15:19):
into that lawsuit against Nika Nike for stealing him claw design. Uh,
it's real. He wants to be a global ambassador and
next year in the Olympics it's which is an asia
he was That is my time. I'm in my prime
to sell a lot of shoes, a lot of new
balance here. This is my time, and I don't believe

(01:15:39):
there's a path to that in Toronto. I currently I
believe that the Clippers are just going to be so
far behind in l A right now, behind Lebron and
Anthony Davis. I do believe that Nick for back in play,
Doug for Kawhi Leonard. There is something that we have
not heard in many avenues. All we've heard is the
two horse race for Kawhi Leonard being the Clippers and

(01:16:01):
the Raptors. Does does a move to New York in
the next makes sense. I've always thought that it was
gonna be um a multiple horse race. It wasn't going
to be just the Clippers and the Raptors. I know,
you like if your Kawhi Leonards, you have to look
at the total landscape. You have to look at both
l A teams, um, you have to look at the
knicks and you have to keep the raptors in consideration.

(01:16:22):
But the Knicks offer the platform. Um. They offer a
roster that is capable of winning with two max slots, UM,
some young talent um and the ability to to turn
that those young assets into something not a d but
to something that is conducive to helping you win that space.
Like it could be, Um, it could be a unique situation.

(01:16:44):
I even like that that whole my my play for
Chris Paul to New York because I think Chris Paul
has been put in too many situations where he doesn't
have anybody more talented than him on his roster. And
what I'm saying by that about having a bigger resume,
a bigger winning resume, I think if he played with Lebron,
James Kawhi, Leonard Um, somebody who who has done more

(01:17:07):
than him, his bark would be a little bit less
and he'd being a He'd being a little bit more
of a learning environment, just giving input, but not as
the demonstrative as he's usually been because he'll have veterans
next to them. So New York is pretty obvious for
just the brand. And I know Toronto is a great
city in Toronto is an international city, but New York
is different. But if you look at Kauai, Kauai is

(01:17:27):
like listen, he's he's smelling himself a little bit like
wherever I go. My team is being contention for a championship.
And with the East being wide open and Golden State
words being a little debilitated, it's gonna be a it's
gonna be a unique situation if New York can present
him um a proposition of how we're going to be
very good with they have a great coach already there
and there and and they put him in a situation

(01:17:48):
to win. I could see Kawai looking at it because
he'll be satisfied on the global brand perspective and on
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telling Dante earlier and Dante doesn't necessarily believe me, but

(01:19:14):
I just think that the NBA has changed and and
and I want to kind of compare it to the
National Football League a little bit, because Dante, when we
look at what the NFL used to be, like, you
would pay a guy, if you took him first overall
as a quarterback, millions upon millions of dollars, bigger contracts
than that a majority of the guys that were currently

(01:19:35):
in the league had. And you would say, all right,
we're going to sit you for a year, and it's
just it made zero sense because you're paying so much money,
but it was such an investment that you didn't want
your quarterback that you took first overall to be thrown
into the fire for fear of being ruined. Well, the
the NFL's contracts structure changed when it came to rookies,

(01:19:56):
and the way that the NFL is now is you
are looking to get production immediately from first, second, and
third round picks. And I would say now in the NBA,
it's kind of like the way that the NFL was once,
where it's not necessarily the salary, but it's the the
waiting process. And you even touched on it earlier of

(01:20:18):
of saying that you've got to be in the right
situation to succeed. And in today's NBA, there are so
many teams that are in bad situations that it's done
near impossible for some of these guys to succeed right.
And but that's what has been always the right The
right situation is imperative for the talent. All these guys

(01:20:38):
that get drafted in the first round are extremely talented,
but they may not be in a situation that's conducive
for them to get the best out of the skill set.
And that it's just that's been through the over time.
You have to be in the right place at the
right time to see some of these superstars, because some
of them fatal. Some some of these guys are just
putting situations where they get frustrated or they don't develop

(01:21:00):
in the right capacity, and that's the organization's fault. It's
not actually the player. But if you don't put them
in the right offense, they won't be the right player.
That's what bothers me some of these people that that
do these these whole let's let's redraft the draft from
two thousand and three. It's it's not that easy. It's
not that their talent had them in that slot. However,
they are superstars now because they were in the right situation.

(01:21:22):
Steph Curry got drafted to the Golden State Warriors. They
needed guards. They were at a crossroads between Monte Ellis
and Steff. That was it was a point in time
where they was like, we gotta trade one of them,
and monte Ellis got the most suitors, so they trade
Monte and the rest is history. As they build around Steph,
it just is what it is. Sometimes it's it's um
it's a perfect storm. Sometimes when the player gets the

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right organization, the right coach and that has to all
line up for you to get an All Star or
or a guy to get the most out of his
skill set, that does make sense. I think that this
year when the NBA changed how they were doing the
lottery to make it so the worst team didn't have
the best chance, they had done it for the top

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for the top three teams, and then you end up
drawing for the four slots in the lottery. When you
when you make it a little bit more even, it
allows teams to move up that maybe could do a
lot more with that player. That was one of my
arguments is I always felt that the lottery. If you're
if you're allowing the worst team to have the the
the best chance, you're not gonna cure tanking. You're not

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gonna cure that at all, because it's still is beneficial
for you to lose games. I think it's beneficial for
the league. And in a point you made earlier, there
were only five or six teams that were really championship
or bust earlier this season or or in the NBA season,
But how many were really we're tanking? And I think
that there were probably more than that. More than the

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five or six that were going for a championship, you
had more teams who were just like, well, let's just
throw in the towel and wait for next year. And
that's not that's not good for the league. So now
in this year's draft, trust me, I'm gonna make my point,
you actually have New Orleans jumping up where Zion is
in a good situation. He is now in a in
an organization that has a president of basketball ops that

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is going to run the franchise the way a franchise
should be run. John Morant is going to a team
that is desperate in need of something to connect to
or or have a star or to to make relevant.
Memphis to me is the most irrelevant organization of the
irrelevant team in the NBA. There's nothing that draws you
to them, and now they get a star. So it
worked out for the NBA been a lot of other years.

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As you point out, that stuff doesn't work out. That's
why the lottery, to me, is just put everybody in
with the same amount of chances. It's going to benefit
you better. Plus there's no there's there's nothing there for
a team to say like, Okay, this is a reason
for us to lose because you're gonna have the same
amount of chances as anybody else in the lottery. True. Indeed,
I give you I give you an example to speak
to what I was talking about. When I was in Indiana, UM,

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I assigned to the pace of a team that was
kind of trying to just just kind of not make
the playoffs and get assets. I'm on, I'm a veteran,
I have experienced. But they drive a kid by the
name of Paul George, and Paul George when he got there,
wasn't ready to play. But they said, you know what,
We're gonna throw him in the fire. Let him play,
and then his second year they grabbed assets to fit

(01:24:15):
around and and put him in a position to where
he could be successful. You got David West, you got
George hill Um, Roy Hibbert, you see an emergence because
they let him play a little bit. And then Larry Bird,
who was a very good figurehead of the organization. Then
you had Frank Vogel who had just who had just
got the job. Then Danny Granger gets hurt, and you

(01:24:36):
see a young guy who was started for a year,
but now he has more responsibility and he takes advantage
of the opportunity. But if Danny Granger doesn't get hurt,
we don't see the All Star Paul George come to
Fruition that early. And it takes a lot of a
bit of um good fortune, but a good organization, a
good a good head coach, and the right opportunity for

(01:24:58):
a guy to be an All Star. It's just not
a about him going out into performing because sometimes the
situation is not gonna do so for I find it
funny because I used the reference when we were talking
last hour of how the NBA draft has changed. There's
a lot of reasons why it's changed, but you would
make an argument for a guy. And this was even
before there was one and done. I mean, a majority
of the guys in the early to mid nineties that

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were really really ready for the NBA, we're leaving after
two years. Like that was that was the like and
And even then you're saying, Wow, you know a guy
in two years, I don't know if he's going to
be ready for the NBA. Now, when a guy stage
three years in the NBA, you're scratching your head, saying,
what's wrong with him? Why is he still? Like why

(01:25:40):
would you still be in college? Because there's so much
of there's the there's the unknown. I've always felt that
the NBA draft that makes it so appealing, But the
things that we used to think were weaknesses in the
NBA years ago when you're entering the league, now it's
the reverse. And if a guy sticks around too long,
like Buddy He'lled a few years ago, one of reasons

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Buddy He'll fell on the draft was because he was
at Oklahoma for so long. And that's absurd because we
saw what Buddy He'll did in leading them to the
Final four, and now he's become a key part part
of the Sacramento Kings. But it's almost the unknown that
is the benefit for the NBA draft. Now you can
trigger a couple of guys um with the unknown, with
the with that whole upside thing. But the non commodities,

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the ones that guys don't really think can can grow
or have more potential, they have less potential in some situations.
But and end the day, the organization has to do
their homework. They have to understand what makes that guy tick,
what what are what is his ceiling? Sometimes guys bust
through what they're proposed ceiling is. But it's all an
individual at work, ethic and what you put around the

(01:26:43):
kid to be able to help him magnifies talent. I'm
not saying there is, there isn't, But I'm gonna ask
you this question anyway, do you think that there's any
hesitation on John Morant and he's gonna go number two?
But because he played at Murray State and was like
a late bloomer if you will, um, No, I don't,
because we have we have some guys from mid majors
that has success, being Steph Curry and Dame Lillard, um

(01:27:04):
C J McCullum, guys who have been at played at
a mid majors, had success, So he has some intangibles
that his athleticism, the way he sees the court, his
attitude is a big thing. Um the way he presents himself,
and he's electric on the court. So they need to
sell tickets in Memphis, and he's a drawl. He's a
guy that that people in that community can gather around

(01:27:26):
and and come out and see him play, and I
think he'll be a positive. You can't pass on him,
Zion and him. You can't pass un on those two
organizations because they both need to sell tickets. I think
Camradds is so intriguing tonight and we're gonna do some
prospects later on. But if you talking about Marquis programs,
like there's a guy who I don't know, I kind
of got. I don't say lost in the shuffle, but
it was Zion and R J. Barrett. He's my Devin Booker.

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He's the He's the guy who Devin Booker didn't start
on his Kentucky team. But if you look at him now,
he was deserving of it. He just he just he
just he just grew a little bit later than than
some of them. He was overlooked in the capacity that
he could be an all around offensive weapon. Cam Reddish
is one. Those guys were more aggressive. Those guys were
a little bit more advanced in their attitude. But cam

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Reddish is seems like the more skilled one and the
more NBA ready. I think the NBA be a better
fit for his game if you give him the ball
and put him in the right situation, helped mold him
to what he needs to be. You have to you
have to put him in the right organization. It's not
just Cam. I think David Griffin is gonna do a
great job with Zion, but if if David, if David
could get to get a Cam Reddish as well, they'll

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put the right resource around those two to make them
what they're supposed to be. The earlier on the show,
when we spoke with Jeff Goodman, he said that really
four to ten is kind of It's not a crap shoot,
but I've seen I've seen the same like six names
in all different spots. You know where it's where it's
either it's Tereus Garland here or Kobe White there, or
Camera to here, Jarrek Culver there, DeAndre Hunter here. It's

(01:28:54):
been a mix. So in this draft, you'll have the
top three, then I think you'll have fourth through ten,
and then you'll have everybody else and fourth through ten,
and we determine them on what where that organization is,
what that organization has put to help these guys. Um developed.
Player development is big in the NBA, and not enough
organizations pay attention to the player development and and and
making guys into the player that they need to be

(01:29:15):
for the organization to be great to Spurs have a
great player development staff, Like they get young guys and
they're better over the years because they put energy into
their play development staff. Yeah, we talked this week and
it's been a theme throughout the playoffs. If if Kauai
doesn't go to San Antonio, it doesn't become Kawhi Leonard.
Absolutely correct. If cau I went to Unfortunately he went

(01:29:35):
to the Clippers at that point in time, he does
not become the Kawhi Leonard because they didn't have the
ability or the people and play to break his skill
set down and give him um leadership around him to
show him how to win Number one, number two, give
him a role to start with so he gets the
playing time early and then show him how to play basketball.
They had, they had the infrastructure around him to make

(01:29:57):
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loafers Versachi loafers. Listen, they all are wearing something amazing
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So they get to break some bread up tonight and
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I know when I was a kid, I looked at
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I was like, when I get there, I'm I'm gonna
go all out. So they deserve it. Yeah, what was

(01:30:42):
your suits that that you had? Listen? That I had?
I had probably I had a custom made suit, but
I had like two of them available for me and
I and I just grab one off, just trying rush
into the arena. My draft day was was actually amazing,
was it. I worked out for the Lanta Hawks one
draft day really, and I flew to New York that
same day and got to my hotel room to change

(01:31:03):
and then got my call while I was changing. So
I got my call, like, you're going to a pick earlier.
I was supposed I got a guarantee from Atlanta at one,
and I worked out for them, got the guarantee then,
so I'm going trying to get there in that slot.
And then um my agent called me and said, Jerry
West gonna pick you at at twenty. They're gonna trade
to pick. It's Boston's pick, They're gonna trade and get it.

(01:31:25):
So we tried to rush me to the to Madison
Square Garden and when I walked in, it was just
after they called my name. So I just went to
the press. Crazy draft night. John Robins will never forget
the night that he was drafted into the Remember that John,
I thought I was going twelve. I went in the
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(01:33:14):
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out to Eddie and
you both are players, and this is what I don't get.
Kawhi Leonard today was spotted at a home depot with boxes,
Eddie in an NBA career, would you ever pack up
anything if you were gonna be leaving that town for
like two months? Woun't you just leave it in the
pad and just and just show up again in September? Eddie? There, Yeah,

(01:33:37):
I'm here. Where was he spotted at at a home
depot in Toronto? Getting cardboard boxes like moving boxes. In
my whole My whole thing is that if you plan
on being back in Toronto, you're gonna end up being
back there in two or three months anyway. So what's
the point of packing? So he must be leaving m

(01:34:00):
not necessarily could do some things that he It's some
things he might want to pack up, or might want
to just get back to his house in San Diego
wherever it is at in California that he's at it.
That doesn't necessarily mean that he's leaving. Yeah. I tried,
I try to. I try to put a little bright
spot on it. Maybe he's putting some stuff in storage
storage for for next year, like it could be. This
thing could go both ways. I won't say it as

(01:34:21):
a as an exodus for Kawhi Leonard from Toronto because
he's getting some boxes. Let's not jump to conclusion here, Fellas. Yeah, no,
you don't got alusion. I think the same thing. I honestly,
I don't think that he's leaving Toronto. I think that
once he won the championship, he has an opportunity to repeat.
Knowing that the East is wide open, they have an

(01:34:43):
opportunity to come back and get back to the finals,
and you were the final VP, and instead of having
one city and in a country behind you, you have
a whole country behind you. So I think it looks
it looked to me. I don't see him leaving, but
if he does, l A is probably the like likely
landed spot form and it will be the clip is
not the like this. Yeah, i' I'm gonna jump on

(01:35:04):
another wave. I'm gonna jump in the New York Knicks
wave if he does leave, because everything's bigger in New York. Um.
Jeremy Lynn would have had his game stretch anywhere else,
we would have never known about it, but since it
was in New York City, there they magnify all occurrences,
all talent um. He's trying to build that Kauai brand.
New Balance is big and is big on him, trying

(01:35:25):
to make him a superstar in the sneaker market. So
Kauai is at his his point where he could be
a a worldwide brand and on the New York stage.
If he brings that back, if he wins a third
championship with a third team, that makes him legendary. He's
in a he's in accompanied by himself and if he
does it in New York City. He's a the Knicks

(01:35:47):
organization and the Knicks fan base makes him the one
of the biggest names that I've ever played. So I'm
going to go and his uncle lives in that area.
Who I just don't see him going to New York.
And he wouldn't be the only one that won three
championships in three different city. Robert Orry did that Spurs Lakers.
We can't, we can't, we can't. We can't put him.
We can't say that, and he made Now he didn't

(01:36:12):
won the Okay three Finals because if he win the
championship with right, that's that's That's what I'm saying. I
got you, I feel you. But I just think that
you're looking at New York City being a huge market.
Yeah it is, But at the same time, when you
have the backing of a whole country, think about the
market of all of Canada that he gets selled to

(01:36:33):
from all the way from the west side of of
uh Vancouver all the way to Nova Scotia. You know,
so you can heat on coast to coast with his sales.
And I think his branding wouldn't take a hit if
he stayed in Toronto. Um, I don't think he'll take
a hit if he stayed in New York. If he
went to New York as well, But I definitely don't
think that if he went stayed in Toronto that there
would be any issues with with his brandy. You're still

(01:36:54):
gonna see a grip of kids walking around with new
Balance shoes on and he house guess year on Fox
Sports Radio he's Dante Jones. I'm Dan Pier to keep
it the nixt theme, but now with Kevin Durant, because
there was a report earlier today by Brian Windhorse of
ESPN is saying that the Warriors may be interested in
trading inciting Durant to a big deal and then trading

(01:37:14):
him away to try to get assets in return. Do
you think that there is still a k D next match,
this soft season or even in the future. Well, that's
that all depends on k D. If I'm going to
state I'm not getting rid of KD at all, I
look at you just charged next year next season and say, hey,
you know what, We're gonna take our lumps and bruises. Uh.
But at the same time, when he comes back, we

(01:37:36):
should be a hundred percent healthy we have all the
rest of the cast uh in full effect, and we
could try to go on another run and try to
go win three then, because I mean Step would be
thirty two. Everybody is getting a little older, which means
they would just have a little bit more knowledge on
how to take care of their bodies, how to paste
theirselfs throughout the regular season, to just get ready and

(01:37:59):
prepare strictly for the finals run, because that's what it
would be. And that's what they've been doing for the
last few years, is final runs, and they have I
think exhausted themselves at times. Um, you know, playing a
lot of minutes. Now we're gonna see more of the
trend of gods with low management. You gotta look at
what's happening with the Lakers. They're gonna do the same thing.
You can't expect a d and Lebron to be going

(01:38:21):
full board all regular season unless all, unless everything's on
the line for them to get into the playoffs. I
think they'll already be in the playoffs, but they're all
they want to do is get there. But I don't
see Katie, I wouldn't. If I'm Katie, I'm staying and
go to South I think it's a good place for him.
I think he loved it there. He's able to to
branch out and do other things that he's interested in
by being in Silicon Valley. So I don't I'm not

(01:38:43):
sure about that NIXT thing. I mean, I'm just not
I'm not sold on it. Yeah, I totally agree with
to let me pivot a little bit to the to
the other coast. Um. The Lakers got a max slot.
They're trying to create a full max slot. And I'll
tell you what I think they should do with it.
But and and I think they should split that up
because now that I look at it, I think Kyle
Kuzma is his growth could be that third star, that

(01:39:06):
third star you needs to be able to score at times, space,
the floor, um, rebound. I think things that he can
provide for them with a D and Broun. But if
you if you split that third, that that third max
up between you could say shooting with Um, Avery Bradley,
guys guys like this, Avery Bradley, JJ Reddick, Um Danny

(01:39:26):
Green and add a point guard in the realms of
maybe D'Angelo Russell if he doesn't get the money that
he demands or Terry Roger or um got Patrick Beverley.
I think that makes your team more well balanced. What
do you think they should do with it? I agree
with you on that. I have a list of guys

(01:39:46):
myself who I think that they should be targeted. When
when you talk about the legers is when when you
win championship is never the stars are gonna be stars.
You know, if the stars aren't stars, you're not gonna
win the championship. The star is gonna be the stars.
You need your role players to be able to be
depended on and do their job night in and night out.

(01:40:06):
And their job is to, hey, this is what you're
gonna do, and you look at what Toronto this year
is a perfect example of it. One night it was
Danny Green with his three point shoot, and then another
night it was Van Fleet with the twelve points in
the quarter. Then I'm saying, I don't think Kyle Lowry
is a superstar, but he had the one game where
he had with the five five threes. I believe as well.
So I think the guys that you that that I

(01:40:29):
would try to keep a d that you have the
best duo in in the NBA with with Lebron James
and Anthony Davis. Now you have to look for JJ
Reddick to Danny Green, the Jamal Crawfords, the Rudy Gaze,
the Patrick Beverley, the Daddy is Young and the Todd Gibson.
These are guys that I feel that you will feel
voids in your lineup that you know they're trusted. They've

(01:40:49):
been in games, they've been in big time game in
big time moments, and you can trust them. And but
the whole thing is would you be able to get
them on on more so of you gotta sell the
that you're playing in l A, you're playing for a championship.
Uh and this could be one of historic season for
the Lakers with with tying the the Celtics for the

(01:41:10):
most championships in the NBA. This is that's what you
have to sell to these guys. And will they be
willing to take pay cuts? I mean a lot of
guys are willing for a championship that they made their money.
I think Rudy Gays made enormous amount of money, not
count nobody's pockets. But at the same time, once you
take a pay cut to to try to win a championship.
So I look at those type of guys that that
that's what you have to do if you want to

(01:41:32):
win in l A. You can't just have three guys,
because we've seen it with the with the Warriors this year.
If two of those three main guys go down, it's
all bad for you. And Eddie House turning us here
on Fox Sports Radio, I'm Dan Buyer, he's done Jones
and you guys, Kyle Kuzman has been putting up numbers
that you would want from a number three guy, you know,
instead of there would be nobody sacrificing. You could just

(01:41:52):
if you wanted to say that there was a big three,
you could put Kyle Kushman in that spot and I
don't think there'd be any drop off. Yeah, I definitely
think Kyle Kuzman it fits in that in that spot.
But yeah, you can get the veteran minimum has changed
from when we played, so that two and a half
million dollars could be a stage for a guy to
make some more money with the championship on his resume
and live in Los Angeles, Like we forget that this

(01:42:14):
is l A. This is the city of guys. Ultimately
sometimes dream of playing floor and if you get an
opportunity where a guy can go find a role win
or one or two year window. They still can make
some money in a different market because they'll have champion
next to their name if they do what they're supposed to. Yeah,
and I also remember though, the Lakers gonna have that
mid level accession that they be of these guys as well.

(01:42:35):
So they got they got some they got. This is
the thing, man, I've never seen an injury or misfortune
for one player affects the whole league the way that
what happened with Kevin Durant has, and it just made
everybody instantly smell blood in the water and the shark
store attacking. So this is the opportunity for the Lakers

(01:42:57):
and say, hey man, we're gonna salvage because they were
looking like a dumpster fire like a month ago, three
weeks ago, everybody's like this is a mess. Now they're
looking like, hey man, we're kind of in the driver's
seat right now to where we can really put together
a team. And it's it's huge for them because they
mortgage their future. Now, if you mortgage the future, it's
not just make it for to make the playoffs, this

(01:43:17):
championship or but they gotta win a championship otherwise this
thing just didn't work right. Yeah, you you mortage your future.
We're talking this earlier. You mortgage your future for a
championship window. A future is nothing if you don't have
a window to win a championship. So you you can
you can give up young assets because that's we don't
know what they'll be. But if you have a four

(01:43:38):
five year window at winning a championship and you and
you get either close or win one, it was all
worth it and to be able to start over again.
This is this is this is the same thing that
teams have done over the history of the NBA do
whatever they can to have a four or five year
win window of winning. Yeah, well, I tell you. I
tell you this though, Dante is you have to win

(01:43:59):
winning one. Okay, that to be cool. You gotta win one.
But you can't sell We got to the finals over
finals and didn't make it mandatory that if you mortgage
your future in this way, you have to win a
championship in one of these years that you said this
is my window, that we have a three or four
year window, it must come to fruition. If it doesn't,
then it was all a failure and for nothing. You

(01:44:21):
look at the team like Boston Celtics, they had, they
had a future, they still have a future. They're still
losing their window. Like just like oh, this whole thing
of of young assets and and and we we and
we have with longevity and time and like that, it
can go away really really For the Celtics are living
in the Northeast, so they're putting on the storm windows,
then they're taking them off, and then they're putting that's

(01:44:41):
with their window. It just keeps on changing with everything
that's going on in Boston. It's just it's I don't know,
it's been open for a while. I just it seems
to be varying at different opportunities. And Eddie, now I
think that their their windows seems like it's closed a
bit because of some of these exiles that could be happening. Well,
no doubt. Well when you if use your lose, nobody

(01:45:02):
wants a championship with young talent young You win championships
with veterans and guys has been around and then you
have some young players mixed in there. So for them
to think that now you can take the approach that
we're young. We're really good, We're really talented with the
gods that they have, the core gods they have. And
you add veterans like Kyrie Irvan, and you add a

(01:45:25):
veteran like Gordon, and you add out. Now you now
you're in the mix. But once you take those guys away,
the only thing that I could look at and think
about if if I'm the Boston Celtics right now, my
next move is, Okay, there is no King James over here,
the Warriors. Window for them to be who they are
that's closing. So I'll develop these young talent, young talent

(01:45:46):
and try to keep them and then add some players
and three four years from now, if I'm able to
keep that young talent that will be experienced and add
some veterans with them who will be veterans and some
young players, now we're back right in the mix. But
you gotta take a couple of bumps and bruises. Are
you willing to take that and sit back? And it's
will your job be safe? Because you know it's a
bottom line business. You gotta Win's Eddie House, Fox Sports one,

(01:46:10):
NBA analysts and NBA champion. Before we let you go, Eddie,
what was draft night like for you when you were
picked in the NBA um man hectic, nerve wracking, nerve racking,
um disappointed, and then elate it all in the same
at the same time, you know, being I was, I
was expecting to go in the first round to the

(01:46:32):
Phoenix Suns. Day passed over to Jake soccer leads. We've
seen how that worked out, saying yeah, no, I'm not,
because I mean, at the end of the day, you know,
it worked out for me. I went to I got
drafted by Miami first class organization, a team that we
went to the playoffs one fifty games. I was taught
from as soon as I stepped in, how to be

(01:46:53):
held accountable, how to become a professional, how to stay
around the league. And I was talking from the best
pat rally, So I wasn't at at all. At first.
I was upsetting, kind of better, but then you know,
it became bitter, sweede and it all worked out for
the for for the right reasons. Well, well, if a
lot of guys who love their dreams are realized tonight
and find out some somewhere down the line that maybe
if it didn't work out tonight, there was a reason

(01:47:15):
for it, Eddie House, we appreciate it, enjoyed the draft,
and we'll do it against very soon. How about that?
And he's Dante Jones, I'm Dan Buyer. Uh. The Athletic
Sham's training reporting that the top three picks basically locked
in no surprise really Zion going to New Orleans, John
mor Right to Memphis, and r J. Barrett to the
Knicks despite the late workouts that they have had. The

(01:47:37):
Knicks have had with Darius Garland and I believe another
player too. Should also be noted that the Pacers and
Sons yet to swap, getting t J. Warren going from
Phoenix to Indiana, Phoenix wanting to shed according to WOJ,
thirty five million dollars over the final three years of
his contract. So the trades have started and it's starting

(01:47:58):
to set up what free agency looks like because Phoenix
is trying to move money to be able to open
up a possible um max slot, to be able to
offer money to guys who've been talking about on this show,
like D'Angelo Russell and Tera Rosier. Lookout for D'Angelo Russell
because him and Devin Booker are like best friends, So
wouldn't you want to play in the market, um with

(01:48:18):
with with tax considerations, with your best friend who're both
making max contracts. I think that's a line up for
something and they could be in the market also for
dreamond Green next year we go ahead. The only the
the only negative thing about the the Suns, and it's
kind of say this about the Knicks is ownership. It's
the sense that I get is I mean, who wouldn't
want to be in Phoenix. You talk about the tax situation,

(01:48:39):
you talk about the young talent there, uh New York.
It's usually James Dolan maybe the same thing with the Sons. Yeah,
But the ownership is is it has has been a
little bit of an issue. But you got a guy
and who's my teammate and who I know is extremely intelligent,
and James Jones, who's out there doing a really good
job and trying to um put guys together who and
create a winning environment. So I think the direction with

(01:49:01):
James Jones played this league, who understands how to make
a basketball team. I think Rob so however, gives him
a little bit more respect. Rob hired him right when
he got done playing because he trust him in some capacity.
So I think that's gonna be um up and coming
space because of what they're trying to build. It should
be if there's there's no reason Phoenix should be as
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(01:50:06):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
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Chris Bruce, Shard, Rick Buker and Jason McIntyre will have
you covered as the selection process begins. Dante Jones to
my left to me is figuring out targets for the Lakers.

(01:50:28):
I'm trying to convince him to not pick any Milwaukee Bucks.
But he's got Malcolm Brogden as a possibility and Brick
Lopez as well. The Lakers. They shouldn't get a second
chance on him. They let him go. That's that's you
know what I gotta learn your lesson space it wasn't personal. Trust. Well,
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(01:51:11):
Yeah right, Ralph is gonna give us some headlines of
what's happening in the world of sports, Dante and I
can react to them. Hello Ralph, Hello, Hello, And you
already talked about the Indiana T J. Warren trade with
the Phoenix Suns. Yes. One thing also to keep in mind,
this from Major and Wo Tarowski, is the Pacers still
have thirty one million dollars in cap space even after
absorbing Warren into the roster, so they still have their

(01:51:35):
eyes set on someone, possibly Ricky Rubio. Listen, I know
I'm sounding like a tape record over here, but what
if what if we uh st? I don't know, I can't.
I'm saying, like can they can absorb him, right and
they can still be a very very competitive basketball team

(01:51:56):
and don't need him to be a star. Your your
efforts to try to get what I'm saying is not
dry for CP because there are teams that have space
that that won't be able to use it. They don't
have to overpay somebody and need a point guard. Okay,
no finish alright. By the way, it should be none

(01:52:24):
of the Pacers, you know, could be losing Boyan Bogdanovich.
So you have TJ. A. Warren moving into that spot
as well. Yep see, I agree. From NBA dot Com,
a person familiar with the New Orleans Pelican situation say
that the team has picked up the option on center
jalil Oka for his contract. He averaged eight point two
points four point seven rebounds in a largely reserved role

(01:52:46):
for New Orleans last season, but thrived when played significant minutes.
Good player, wrong era? Is that fair? Not Dante? Very fair?
He just does not fit the overall dynamic of basketball
right now. A post catching big. I think he's trying
to to get some range in his game. But yeah,
if he was in he came in five years earlier,

(01:53:07):
he would have dominated. Five fifteen is usually for a
past interference and the NFL has finalized pass interference replay
challenge rule for okay, what's what do we got? What
is going to be what is going to be past
interference and what what can be challenged? Well, what they

(01:53:28):
finalized was basically what was passed back in March, that
coaches will be able to challenge pass interference calls or
no calls up until the two minute warning of each half.
And of course then it would be a booth review.
The rule will cover just and the owners will decide
whether to tweak it or eliminate it for next year.
This is yeah, this sorry, sorry to interrupt. This is

(01:53:49):
what's very important because the issue of this is going
to slow down the game as long as it's under
the challenge process is which is, yeah, that's that's a
that's a really really big deal. People. There aren't going
to be nine pass interference reviews throughout the game. Now,
there maybe nine in the final two minutes, but oh well.

(01:54:11):
The point is is at least during the game, you're
not gonna see, you know, if there's an eighteen yard pass,
it's gonna be up to the coach to be like,
all right, do we really want to challenge that if
we're two minutes into the game. I do think that
the people are overreacting on how much this is going
to slow down the game. Yeah. A crucial NBA Draft
Day announcement on Twitter. All right, I am fingerlicking thrilled

(01:54:34):
to bring the KFC Cheetos Sandwich KFC locations. One that
from the Colonel wo So the first bad decision of
the night, chicken breast, a bed of Cheetos, mayonnaise and
a special got a heart attack on a bunch. It's

(01:54:57):
the same sandwich. They're just making it like a Cheeto sauce.
That's the by the way, that's the genius of KFC.
The genius of KFC is the chicken always stays the same.
Like when they're like ladies and gentlemen chicken and waffles. Well,
you've always had the chicken. Now you're just making the
waffles like they're they're smart and what they do. They're

(01:55:17):
not like the KFC hamburger, Like you don't have that.
It's all still chicken based. Everybody's trying to get a
Big three only available for four weeks. Things I don't
I don't know. I like the Nashville chicken that they
have at KFC. I do think that that is delicious
because it's not ass hot, It's got a little bit

(01:55:38):
more flavor. Are you a chicken fan at all? Never
had it? But I'm gonna go I'm gonna go around
KFC and and get me a Nashville Chicken sandwich, just
so do it so I can understand what you're talking.
John Ramos wants a cool ranch Dorito's Chicken Sandwich, right, John,
I know that's right up your alley. It's right up
my alley. All right, you got anything else for all

(01:55:59):
European Challenge to our event. Clement Barado, Well, he had
to leave. He was already ten over party on the
sixteenth hole, but he lost his ball and he ran out.
He ran out of golf ball, ran out of golf balls.
He had to be he was just qualified from the tournament.
Got to coordinate. I played golf last night. I looked
at my bag and I only had eight balls. I'm like,
all right, there's no second ones off the tea tonight.

(01:56:21):
We're gonna not that I would lose seven on nine holes. Well,
let's just say we're playing it safe and pressed that
hundred in the world the world. He's actually just above Gavin.
All right. I just want to let Dante Jones seven
Eastern four Pacific for the draft tonight, so you don't

(01:56:43):
miss it this year, Dante, Alright, I'm not gonna miss
it this year. Last year I told him, m I
got home at six o'clock. I'm used to East Coast.
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