August 13, 2019 • 40 mins
Doug Gottlieb is live from Dallas Cowboys Training Camp from Oxnard, CA and explains why the Cowboys can win with Dak Prescott, but not because of him. Cowboys TE Jason Witten, C Travis Frederick, and LB Leighton Vander Esch all join Doug to talk about the latest around Cowboys camp!
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of the Doug Gottli Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well welcome,
It's Doug Gotlieb Show live here at Dallas Cowboys training camp.
Completing our training camp tour for the one to third
consecutive year. We've gotten a chance to see the Rams
in person, defending NFC champions UH, the Chargers in person
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team that tied for the best record in UH in
the a f C last year and lost in New
England Patriots in the second round of the playoffs. And
the Dallas Cowboys, who of course are some people's preseason
favorites to reach the Super Bowl out of the NFC,
and of course they're without their start running back. They
have their star quarterback, they're looking to resign him and
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his wide receiver. There's a lot going on with the
Dallas Cowboys. We'll we'll jump into By the way, we're
gonna catch up with Jason Witten, who of course retired
for one season, then came out of retirement. He's back
with the Pokes. Will get his sense of all the
things that are the same, all the things that have
changed in his one year away from not just Cowboys
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but ox starret what's this training camp like for him.
We'll talk some broadcasting, do a little bit of everything
with with Jason Witten. Plus we got some Andrew luck
for you. How the Pittsburgh Stealers have one the weekend
with the wild insaney nous that's going on out in Oakland. Uh,
the n c A doing a quality back pedal, Like,
we got a lot of a lot of stuff to
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get to, plus some preseason thoughts. We get ready for
week two of the preseason. But let's start where we
are here, the Dallas Cowboys. So yesterday the story leaks
that Dak Prescott has reportedly turned down a deal that's
worth thirty a year because he once forty a year.
Now in fairness, it's all negotiation, right, Like you can
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throw out any sort of number, And this used to
happen with Scott Boris clients. I mean hack even happened
this past offseason with Bryce Harper. Did the Phillies actually
get a deal? Well, no, they spent over three billion dollars,
but there was thoughts that he would make five million dollars,
So I guess maybe maybe that's a deal. The issue
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with with Dak Prescott is really this is we're sitting
here on the precipice of a season one which he
still will be undercompensated based upon what his job normally pays,
and that, by the way, is supposedly the Cowboys fault
like right, like the Cowboys nailed the draft, Dak Prescott
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got a d U I before the draft, and because
Dak Prescott was sloppying at times inaccurate in spite of
having an incredibly successful college career at Mississippi State, I
gets the Cowboys fault like they have to repay him
because he was Johnny on the spot when Tony Romo
goes down with injury and his backup goes down with
an injury and he gets an opportunity like, Okay, I
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guess I don't frankly understand that logic. I always thought
that the thing about the NFL and the NFL's contracts,
which were great. Is they paid you. Usually I pay
you based upon what they think you are worth during
the time in which you're playing for that team, right
like baseball. Sometimes they pay you for for the past,
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and they pay you way too much, too long into
the future, and you don't live up to it. NFL contracts,
while people tell you they aren't guaranteed, usually it's the
first year to three years that are guaranteed, and that's
really the meat of where you're gonna be successful quarterbacks
obviously exclusion. But if I'm the Cowboys, this is such
a risk we're taking if he wants to walk from him,
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if he wants to walk with the idea of, hey,
overpay me by five or six million dollars to get
the thirty isn't enough. I want you to overpay me
by ten or fifteen million dollars. Is like, I'm the Cowboys.
I'm okay with that. And look, Doc has done the
right thing, unlike seek not showing it, like you want
to lead. You want to be the Cowboys quarterback. You
have to be here because you put yourself in an
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impossible situation to live up to any contract. If you
know show on camp running backs obviously little a little different,
but you do run the risk at least of soft
tissue injury, of not being yourself, not being sharpened by
the way cost your team games, which is the ultimate
selfishness in the in the team game. But but I
look at this and I say, if I'm the Cowboys,
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I don't have to pay it for the first couple
of years in which you were underpaid. Don't have to
I may out of the goodness of my heart. And honestly,
getting the thirty million dollars is overpaying um And and
this is not a I'm over paying based upon the
fact that he's not just an elite quarterback. I think
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you're overpaying because the key to the Cowboys rise to prominence.
They had a great quarterback, they had a great wide receiver,
they had a great tight end. They've had good running backs.
The difference is the depth of talent the offensive line
in on the defense, and that has been able that
that has been allowed based upon their bid to spread
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the wealth. Like we're all paying attention to the same thing. Right,
There's one pool of money, and if you put too
much into Deck's basket, you have to eliminate something else,
and if you eliminate that one other thing, he might not.
He's not good enough to carry you. Romo was. But
even if Romo and I think he's better quarterback, just
more brittle obviously, But even Romo couldn't win because you
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have the defense around him. I just didn't. Never had.
When they had the defense, they were a playoff team
when they didn't. They weren't really that simple. So I
can like that. I can understand and respect that he
wants to be paid and overcompensated based upon fact he
was undercompensated to be a starting quarterback on the team
that twice won the division. Fine, we also know that
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he's not the reason they won the division, right, Like
we're all being realistic about this. They weren't gonna win
the division. And then the Washington Redskins lost not one,
but both of their quarterbacks as they broke their ankle,
broke their like Carson Wentz got hurt coming off in
a c L. And the New York Giants have been
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an abject and complete disaster, riding out this wave of
Eli manning like they Yes, you can sit there and
go like, well, they won their division. They did, but
the Redskins were actually winning the division when oh yeah,
by the way, the Cowboys went and traded a first
round pick for Mark Cooper. You know this is this
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feels like it feels like politics. I'll never forget this.
I was. Um. I still had times appear in Oklahoma
City and a sports radio station there, and before President
Obama was elected, you get named. Jim Traber does afternoons there,
hardcore right winger. And I sat down next to him
and we're talking on air about the upcoming political season,
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and I said, well, a Democrat is gonna win. He's like, why, why,
why why do you say that? You know? He he
got really hot and bothered, and I said, look, this
is politics how it works. Right Like, we're swinging to
the right. Everybody in the left gets empowered, tells you
everything that's wrongs, and then we swing the left. And
then it becomes too much to the left and to
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all about you know, almost pitched as socialism and trying
to fix everything and help everybody, and business kind of
locks down, doesn't spending money. Then we swing to the right.
It's a it's a cycle of over and over and
over again. We keep doing it. In relationships. You have cycles,
right in in coaching, how many times you had a coach?
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If you have an offensive coach, he gets fired. What's
the next guy gonna be defensive coach? Right? If the
guy before his inexperience, the next guy is gonna have
what a ton of experience? And if you hire like
an old head, it's kind a ton of experience. The
next look at this, look at the Rams, the Rams,
who did they hire. They went from hiring Jeff Fisher,
who's been doing it forever, super boring, super solid, nobody
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says anything bad, nobody says anything great. He's not super innovative,
but he does a good job. Like I remember Jeff Fisher.
You know he's moved a team before. That was a
big thing when they with the Rams, Like he's moved
a team before. Like, he's not a mover, he's not
a realtor. He's a football coach. How good a football coaches.
But they went from that to the most dynamic offensive mind,
the youngest coach in the league. Right, that's what people do.
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That's how the pendulum swings. So here with the Ray Ray,
with the with the Cowboys, excuse me, that's what it
feels like you go from massively under paying Dak Prescott
too massively overpaying Dak Scott, and what comes with it,
You lose some pieces. Your assumption is he's in elite quarterback,
he's making elite quarterback money. Don't believe me, Joe Flacco.
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Joe Flacco was the same quarterback he was before he
got hurt. After he got hurt, before he won the
Super Bowl, after he gets what changed in Baltimore? They
won a super Bowl, he got a big contract. People's
expectations of him change. So whether it's dating, or coaching
or or playing wet, the pendulum swings, and I feel
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like we know the Cowboys are ultimately going to give
in and get ultimately relent because that's kind of their
modus upper RANDI, which is they try and be as
super player friendly as possible. They love their guys even
more than you love their guys. But I do think
they're actually in a great spot here. If he wants
to bet on himself, fine, in the meantime, worry about
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other deals. No you got Dot, No you got got
doc happens. I think that's what should actually happen. We'll
catch up with Jason Witten, who's basically a Ring of
Honor dude who came out of retirement to come play
for the Cowboys. How does his body feel? How is
the offense? It's a different offense than the one he
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played in the last time. And uh, we'll get his
sense of how Doc looks now as opposed to when
he played with TECT during his rookie and Decks second season.
That's up coming next live from Dallas Cowboys training camp.
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in to you live from Dallas Cowboys training camp. Getting
ready to listen to Jason Garrett speak live. But what
a pleasure it is to catch up with one of
the all time great Dallas Cowboys who was getting ready
for the Ring of Honor coronation. I guess and instaid
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to say, you know, let's let's go back and let's
let's run it back. Let's do it again. Jason Witten
from wearing the star to the booth to back where
in the star? How you doing? I'm doing well, man,
join every day I think, Uh, it's been a lot
of fun. And this is always a good time, you know.
I mean inter grind as you will know, but it's
also a good time when the team comes together, you know,
and you when you go through the journey, you think
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back at these moments. So if it's been a good
two weeks, obviously we got a lot to improve on. Well, look,
there's a there's a ton I want to ask you about.
But first I guess, how does your body feel like?
Because there is shape and then there's football shape, right,
And to those of us who have played sports, like
you could even like football, you can't really play with
your boys, but you can go play basketball. But then
you go and have like a real workout, and you're by, like,
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how how are you now? A couple of weeks in,
I feel good? You know, I mean I feel like
I'm always hesitant to say that because all old players,
you know, as they're towards the end of their career, like, oh,
this is the best I felt. This is the best
I felt, um And truly I think that year off
helped me. And then making the decision in March was
was huge because now I got the entire season. I
felt like I was building towards to this, you know,
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and so I haven't had a moment this entire offseason,
especially this training camp where I might dany. I don't
know how I'm gonna get through the day. You know,
this is gonna be a grinder. I haven't felt that,
and that's probably what it was so hard when I
did retire. I mean, I didn't feel like I can't produce,
I can't win on one on one matchups. I mean,
I know what my role is within this offense and
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convert some third downs and make some first downs and
help this team win some games. So I'm fortunate that
I play a position for whatever drop off I probably
have had over the course of my career. You know,
my game was never really built on those certain things,
and so I feel confident that, you know, I can
play just as well as I've as I've ever played,
and whatever role that is, it'll work itself out. It's
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Antonio Gates. You know, we talked. We do the Chargers
camp every year. We talked to them, and you know
last year this time he was sitting out They're like, look,
you know, at some point, tight end, you're not built
on speed. It's about understanding angles and and reading the defense,
and you know, like just catch it where it's thrown
to you. And relationship wise, if you could do it again,
would you Uh, that's the ultimate question, you know. I mean,
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I uh, I've tried really hard in my life not
ever to like look back. I mean, there's been challenges
in versity of my entire life to never look back,
and and honestly I learned a lot last year through
that experience. So um, I'd say no, you know, I mean,
in the fact of if you told me that was
gonna be my last football game and I didn't know
I was gonna have this opportunity again, then I'd say, yes,
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I made a mistake because I was not ready to retire.
I was not ready to stop competing. I was not
ready to UM. Winning and losing matter to me. Still,
I felt like there was something in me I could
give to a football team. And so if I if
I didn't have this opportunity again on the other side,
then yeah, I was the wrong decision because my heart
wasn't ready to give it up. UM. But knowing that
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I think I'm a better player having gone through that
season and the experience in the booth. Why what what what?
What did you What did you learn from not playing,
from from going around the league watching was a training camps,
then you know, going to all this what what do
you what did you pick up? Well? I think the
first thing is just internally, you know, the old saying
you don't know what's got to what's gone. I mean,
the fact of how much I love this game. I
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truly and if you ask my teammates with the course,
I mean I was a guy that really tried to
master his craft every day. So not from the moments
of that, but you know, you're so engulfed in being
the best, you know that sometimes you don't take a
step back and smell the roses a little bit um.
But but then that that would be the first part
of having another opportunity and enjoying every part of that
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process that goes into it and however long it lasts.
You know, nobody knows. It's it's a show me game
and I gotta be able to produce um. But going
to these other teams and seeing how they put together
a team and do that in an unemotional way. You know,
people always say, like when you're evaluating players or teams,
where you always most people have a jaded perspective when
they're doing it. And I was fortunate enough to have
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the opportunity my not football, to go in there and
really pull back, kind of have a thirty foot view
of it and say, like, you know, people would always
form narratives on it, and like you're able to kind
I said, well, no, really, what they were trying to
do was this and and a great example of that
was first game I called was the Oakland Raiders and
against the Rams last year, week one, and so I
kind of was here in the hype of Sean McVeigh
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and to see I'm like, wow, these are things that
he does really well and it paid off for him.
But then on the Oakland side of it, they traded
clear Mac right before that first week, so I got
to hear Oakland side of it, you know, John Gruden,
the ownership of why they traded that away, what they
felt like they got. And then the next week he
called the Bears and now you're here in their perspective
of their coaching staff and their general managers say well,
this is why we made that trade. And you catch
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yourself from like, man, that's interesting, what would I have
done in that situation? And so from overwhelming like football
knowledge and understanding. Uh, it's a great perspective. And now
I bring that back of how can I apply that
and helping help our football TA. You had a gap
year at thirty seven thirty six years old, right like
you had a gap here you got to go to
kind of study abroad, if you will, just Witten joining
us on the Gotlie Show here live at Dallas Cowboys
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training camp. When you left, Uh, Dak had come off.
I think what people would see him a disappointing year,
but a hard year, right because he and dez Des
was seemingly aging and there was some frustration there in
terms of them in the the ability to connect in
comparison to how he and Tony always connected. It was
also the year where Zeke was suspended and you guys
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fell off when he missed six games. Um, and you
know there were some other injuries and some other issues
that not having a great year. Fast forward, now what
was it two years later? And now you're in training
camp and now Dak has been the guy. He's obviously
in a contract re negotiation, but as just as a
player and playing within his offense and in a new offense.
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That's one thing that's lost is it's a new offense.
What is Dak like now in comparison to how he
was two years ago? Well, the first thing I would
say is just I mean, he's always been since minute
when he got here off the charts with all the intangibles.
I mean when you say teammates would run through a
wall form, every guy in that locker room would do that,
and that matters. That matters in today's game. Uh, you know,
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I think a lot of people just say give me
the best players and get out of the way. I
really believe that that part matters to your football team.
And then offensively, I think he's just his understanding. He's
performed at a high level, right, I mean he made
the playoffs two out of three seasons that he's been
the quarterback nine and seven the other year. So he's
produced at a high level and his record speaks for itself.
But I just think when you talk about mastering your craft,
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it's all the things that going to have split alignment,
tempo and out of the huddle. But then his ability
to kind of anticipate throws, the velocities he's throwing it. Hey,
I'm trying to get that to you sooner before that
corner can unfold and make a play. So just coverage
and anticipation of the of the game. You know, it's
a fast game. Certainly a quarterback. I think the best
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ones throw you open. They see it beforehand, and they
understand risk first reward and and uh so his ability
to create and do all these things outside of the pocket,
I think he speaks for itself. He's definitely a winner
from that standpoint. But I'm talking inside the pocket. It
his understanding of this offense and demanding everybody else perform
at a higher level. I think it's off the charts.
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It's always been at a high level, but I can
see huge improvement. What is the biggest difference in the offense? Well,
time will tell, but I think, um, you know the
first thing I would say, I mean the core of
this offense is very similar. Um, I think which which
which is what? Because last year I'll just tell you
how they spun it to us last year. Last year
we came here and they're like, look this whole number
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one wide receiver thing having elite tight end, like we're
just gonna find the mismatch and we're gonna we're gonna
have different formations and find the mismatch and pick and
and obviously there just wasn't enough mismatches and they've had
to bring in a Maori and obviously didn't have you
to fall back on um. But is the core the
off it's running the football? Like, what's the core? He said?
The core the offensie same? What is it? I think
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it is the identity is to be attacking offense that's
established through its running game, you know. And what maybe
different now then probably you know the last year's a
few years past was. I don't think that it always
has to be run set up past. I think it's
like when you're gonna attack, you can pass set up
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the run, you know. I mean they do need to
mirror each other and be married married up. From the
standpoint of runs look like past past looks like run
that's very elementary and from that standpoint, but I think,
you know, what I think this offense understands is when
you have this style of we're going to control the
line of scrimmage, you know, run action, play, action downhill
with Ezekiel Elliott Um. A handful of plays you know,
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matter you know. And I think when you look at
when we won the time as possession or I should
say they last year, I think the record was like
eight no when they won the time in possession uh
for the game. So that doesn't just mean running the football.
I think it's an attacking offense when that happens. Uh.
But within that formula, there has to be big plays
that come into it. You can't just think that you're
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gonna go on sixteen play a d R drives and
we're not immune to that. And I think that's where
Kellen comes in. I think Kellen has done a good
job of attacking in certain situations. Hey they're doing this,
we need to do this adjusting off of it. So
I think when you look at the really good coordinators
or play callers in this league and offenses as a whole,
because it's not always just about the play caller. UM.
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You know, Patrick Mahomes matters. You know, Tom Brady matters.
I mean different playmakers. Travis Kelsey that matters. UM. But
I think when you look at it's like there's four
to six plays that are game changing place, and you're
not gonna hit on all of them. But when I
look at Sean McVay system, or I look at Andy
Reid in different offenses. In our offense, at times when
it's performing at a high level, there's like these handful
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of plays are like they had no chance on that
play the defense, And I think that's where you're always
trying to get back to. Starts with the Mari Cooper
obviously starts with the running game. We'd be like we
have weapons, and then you find in these wrinkles. I mean,
Gallup's coming on in a second year. Randall Cobb is
a huge edition. You know, hopefully I can convert some
third downs. You know, Tony Pollard will be a new
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guy to that. So I think that's the core of
its offense. Kellen's feel of adjustments, how all that fits
in RPO games A big part of that. Shifts and motions,
Hiding some of those looks is a big part of it.
And then you know, creating matchups, you know, to where
we can take advantage of of what the defense has
given us. And people always say like, well, you know
they don't know his tendencies yet, you know, like a
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new coordinator. It will be some new wrinkles. I mean,
they'll find out. What people mean by that is what
I'm trying to say, is like, what are those four
to six place look like when we haven't seen them
in the past, you know, and and uh hopefully they
work out in a positive way. From I mean is exciting?
I mean, is it because there's some new newness. I
mean he's Kellen's obviously very young, comes you know, Boise
State and obviously spending time here in the league. Like it.
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It feels like there's like a little bit more of
a creative look at some of the same things you've
been trying to do. Yeah, and I mean you know
some of them are uh sample sizes of it, you know.
I mean you're not seeing a ton of it at
different times. And I think it's all gonna involve. It's
always evolved. And you look what Andy Reid's done with
that offense in Kansas City. So um, I think it
helps when you have really good players. And then it
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starts with Dock's ability. I think he's just at another
level with the throwing of the football and how he's
creating these plays. Because you start throwing in zone reads
and now our pos and bootlegs outside the pocket. But
then also you you know, Mary Cooper has been great
in the quick game. I mean it's a hard matchup
in one on one, So I mean all that kind
of come together. I think it's a powerful offense. But
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you can't just rely on oh, we're good up front,
we're gonna win it, and Zeke's gonna carry us there.
I mean, certainly Zeke's a huge part of that. But um,
that's what you're trying to figure out. Speaking of speaking
of Zeke. Um, obviously not your first camp, so not
your first Dallas Cowboy camp with the whole or with
contract discussions. Does it in any way invade the meeting
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rooms that like all of this other talk, because I'll
just tell you, like Twitter, air waves and what we do,
it's all we talk about. What about within the insular
world of the Dallas Cowboys, do you guys here talk
about it very little? Does it affect your team? I
mean I think this team is unique and that guys
genuinely care about others. I mean, you know, obviously players
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want to get see other players get paid and work out. Um,
you know, it really hasn't been It's been a non
issue for our football team. I mean, first off, I
think camp's a time of individually what can I improve on?
Collectively what can we improve on? And you know that's
lingering out there and it's going through, but I don't know,
I just maybe it's just my confidence in this organization.
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Like a look, when they have a really good player
and they say they want to try to get something done,
it usually works out. And you know, it just makes sense.
I mean, Zeke wants to be here, they want him
hear um. You know, at some point it doesn't need
to happen, you know what I mean, Like the further
longest goes. I mean, I think we all need reps
and no matter what kind of training, not trusted. Zeke's
doing a lot of good training. There's nothing like playing football.
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And uh so you hope it's sooner than later. But
really it's been a non issue for our football team.
And I think that starts with just kind to who
those guys are. They're a big part of our team.
I mean, nobody love us playing and practicing like Zeke does,
you know, I mean Dax here, Mari how they approach it,
So it's kind of been an non issue for us.
And and I think this team, when you play for
this organization, you know, it's the bright light. If you
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get caught up and every little thing that happens, I mean,
you're never gonna accomplish what you hope to. And I
mean he's a huge part of this football team. Last thing,
how likely is this your last training camp? Oh? I
don't know. I mean I think at this point, you know,
it's I didn't when I came back. I never said, Okay,
I'm playing one year if we win the Super Ball
and done, you know, like that's not entered my mind.
I mean, I truly, going back to the money night football,
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I never even thought about broadcasting, you know, just like, okay,
you know in real time, it happens, happens, like I
gotta take this exactly, and I think percent of people
would probably do the same exact thing. Yeah, um, but
so look, nobody's standards from myself or higher than what
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I I'm put on me, you know. And I think
when you approach it that way, it's like you're gonna
know when it's time, you know, And it's like, as
long as I can play at a high level. And
that's a good question. You know, will you be able
to perform at that level. I hear that a lot,
and it's like, well, I'm trusting myself that I'm putting
in that work that's gonna allow me to be successful
in that situation. So very much could be my last
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training camp, but also you know, I could keep it going.
But regardless, UM, I really try not to think about that.
You know, it's like, hey, go enjoy the day after
you've gone through what I've been through as far as
like retiring and then coming back. You know, just there's
one thing. It's it's kind of keep playing grass, you know,
and I don't worry about all the other things going on.
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Just keep playing grass, and if you do that, the
weeds will disappear. Jason Witten, Dallas Cowboys Back in the Star.
Thanks so much all I appreciate it. Be sure to
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Show rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio, and uh
let's catch up with one of these star off some
lineman from UH from from the Dallas Cowboys. Of course,
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last year he was suffering from alert neurological disorder, and
now he's back and fully healthy and he's Travis Frederick.
He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sport. Trady, Hey,
you feeling I'm doing well? How are you? Guys? Take me?
Take me through kind of this journey for you. It's
been a long journey, very interesting, you know, because starts
from figuring out what's going on, and um, kind of
falling into into it and then trying to get better
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from it and recover from it. And um, it's been
a lot of time spent you know, in the weight
room and that getting ready there, but also you know,
in the meeting rooms trying to help the guys out
and and that, and then uh to come back to
training camp, trying to figure out how to play ball again.
You you mentioned the weight room and trying to get
back to where you needed to be. What was the
How bad was it when you first got back after it? Oh,
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I mean from the beginning it was like it was
very bad. Like I was having a hard time walking
without along lifting weights. So um, getting back in the
weight room trying to do things. You know, you're you're
lifting weights that I could have lifted when I was
ten years old. Um, but you just kept pushing on
it and pushing on it and taking what was you know,
what was given and as my body was recovering, just
taking a little bit more and then you know, getting
back to full strength. When was the moment where where
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you think, where you were really this is going to
because everybody and I like you, look, you want to
push yourself if not for an indomitable will, right not
unless you had that belief in yourself that you could
come back. But there had to be a moment of affirmation.
Wasn't there where you're like, oh, this is this is
gonna be okay. Things started to really take a turn
right around Bye Week last year. Um, you know I
was kind of in a dark hole for a while there,
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but um, the recovery started and uh it started to
make some bigger, sign more significant gains. And I think
that was the moment when I knew that I was
at least going to get close back to full strength.
Travis Frederick joining us Doug Olives Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um okay, so what's what's this group like
as opposed to previous groups you've played with? You know,
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this is a great group of guys, and I'm really
excited to be with him. Uh, not only from a
team aspect, but offensively and as an offensive line. You know. Um,
I've been really pleased with the with the work that
the offense has done, you know, with Coach Moore coming
in making a few changes, um and getting that all
figured out. The install has been clean, it's been good,
and guys have really focused in on it and and
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and try to take advantage of those changes. So you know,
I'm excited to get out there, you know, in the
regular season and get moving with it. Is it is
it challenging at all to not have your running back,
you know, I think that most of our system is
very similar to what we had been doing before that.
The changes are you know, schematically bigger fixtures type of stuff.
So a lot of the stuff is the same, and
so our job as an offensive line is to block
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it a certain way, no matter who the runner is,
no matter who the quarterback is, no matter what is
going on in the wide receiver position as well. So
for us, it doesn't really change anything at this point.
You mentioned coach More. You have him, he's younger, but
he's also a former quarterback. Does that change in terms
of his ability to understand what you have to do
and how each place should be blocked. Yeah, it's it's
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really interesting seeing the perspective from somebody that's that's been
in and seen it like that, UM, and and very
recently as well, you know, and it was just a
couple of years ago. I was sitting on the bench
next to him, and so that's always a that's a
fun thing that you know, we've seen the game together.
He was played quarterback behind me, so we have an idea, UM,
and we're on the same page. And so when you
have that sort of fresh experience, I think that that
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really helps in connecting with the quarterback, connecting with the
young offense and knowing, uh, the challenges of today's you know, NFL.
What about the challenges of the fact that you did
play together, right, Like, he he's I'm not necessarily your boss,
but he is telling you what to do, and you
you're like, look, we're contemporaries. What about that challenge? You know?
It's interesting, Um, But it's also it's it's kind of
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a weird dynamic because you know, in the NFL, it's
different than colleges differ in the high school. When you're
in high school, the coaches is the end all be all.
When you're in college, Uh, the coaches the boss and
and and that's kind of that way here. But also, um,
it really is a team effort at all points. You know,
the coaches have have a specific job, the players have
a job, the staff people have a job, the executive
have a job. But we all feel like we're really
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on the same team and trying to work together. And
I think, uh, Coach Moore, it's in a great job
of sort of embracing that and doing it as a team.
Taking input from the offensive line. He travel, why don't
we block it this way? Or what do you think
about this? And I'll tell him, well, here's our challenge.
We'd be happy to do it, and however you want
to do it. But this is the implication of that change.
And so um, just by being able to have that conversation,
it allows us to sort of expand and um think
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about things in a different way. Uh. Last thing, Uh,
you know, we talked with with about about Dac and
I asked about the difference and you know, not being
here last year and and how much he's changed. Similarly,
for you obviously with all of your challenges last year,
it was time away from playing with him. How is
he different? How is he better? Is he worse in
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comparison to last time you're in training camp with him?
You know, it's hard for me to evaluate a quarterback
on the quarterback position, UM, but what I can evaluate
is the way that he leads the team, the way
he carries himself, UM, the way that the offense runs
while he's in there. Learned all of those things seemed
just so much more comfortable and uh, you know, um,
all the gears are all sort of sea going in
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the same direction, UM, where sometimes you know with younger guys,
you know, it might be skipping a beat every once
in a while. And I think that things have really
he's really settled into the offense and feels really comfortable
with it. And you know, it was it was really
interesting for me to see him grow last year. You know,
I was kind of on the sideline, but I was
still in it. I was, um as involved as you
can be for not being being out there on the field,
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and UM to see him grow, um and be able
to handle some of the protection stuff and see a
little bit more what the offensive line is seeing because
I wasn't out there handling it. Um. I think that
that really helped bridge the gap too between the quarterback
and offensive line, and I think that as an offense, UM,
he's done a good job of bringing everybody together really quickly.
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Did you play the backup lineman? Played like sixty two snaps?
Did you play against against the Niners? Yeah? I played
just that first. Seriously, what's it? What's it like to
get back out there? It's great. I mean, that's great feeling.
After everything I've been through, to be able to go
back out there and play football professionally is a It's
a really special deal. Welcome back. Obviously a huge part
of what the Cowboys do and want to do this season.
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Thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me,
Travis Frederick back. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Layton Vanderessha check it in with us here on the
Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. As the guys
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have already had their walkthroughs, their showers now probably some
meetings and then afternoon practice, Laton, how are you We're
really really really good. Um. What's this camp like in
comparison to last year? Um, this camp, I would say, Um,
I mean everything is more familiar. Um just being out there,
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being used everything, not having to learn the playbook and everything.
It makes a lot easier. Um, just being able to
go out there and cut a loose and start working
on other parts of the game. UM. It's interesting because
you know, last year, everyone knew that you could be
in the position you're in. Was there a moment for
you where you're like, oh, yeah, this, I'm I'm good here,
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I'm confident. Was was there the moment of confidence of
belonging at any point that you remember? Um? I was
always confident in myself from from the get go. But UM,
I would say, really, Um, just as a as a
season started and I was really getting reps, especially when
Sean went down. UM, just I was gaining confidence like
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like crazy, um, game in and game out, and just
taking things slowly, taking things one day at a time,
not getting too far ahead of myself and just just
trusting my instincts, trust my abilities. How was san Sean
was Sean has been awesome the whole entire process. Uh,
he's been phenomenal. Um. I mean he's like a big
brother to me, and he's always he's always helping me,
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always giving me a little cheats, hints here and there. Um,
always just always just trying to help me on my game.
What's that like to I mean for a guy who like, look,
you're kind of brought in to take his job, right,
I mean you're you're you're brought in to be what
he has been. And look, he's had the unfortunate run
of injuries like he had last year at previous times.
What's it like to be a young guy? You walk in,
here's this older dude and you're and all of a
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sudden he's helping you out and he's helping you get better.
It just shows what what what kind of caliber of
guy he is. And the respect that he has for
his teammates, his coaches in the game football, Um, you
can't you can't teach that. And the amount of heart
that that guy has. Um, I mean everybody would go
to everybody would go to war with him and for
him no matter what. So UM, I mean I have
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the most respect possible that I could for for a
guy like that, and and I mean, uh, I'm just
trying to give back, give back to him, um, using
what he has to tell me on the field, and
to show him that I'm gonna go out there and
that he can trust me to do my job and
trust me to fill in his spot if he needs
me to. Late man Ric joined us in the Doug
(35:04):
Gotlip Show on Fox Sport Trade Live at Dallas Cowboys camp.
Have you matched up with Whitten yet? I have? Yeah,
yeah a few times now. Um. It's crazy. Every time
I line up against him, It's like who would have thought,
uh this, it would be like this one day? Um,
but I mean it's it just it just shows you
not to take anything for granted. And that is pretty
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special that you get to actually line up against guy
like that, Um and practice and practice against the guy
of his caliber. How's he running? Oh, he's just as
good as ever. Um, he knows how to run aroute.
He's he's really he's really smart with everything he does.
This guy's is everything. Um that. I mean, the dude
the nude knows the ins and outs of football, so
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he knows it works and what doesn't that It's interesting
you point that out because there's something the same for you, right,
Like you're a crazy athlete, like you're off the charts athletes.
So there's the athleticism and is the football like you
and you've always had a good football, but you need
to play in the NFL. And like you said this
year in camp, you're comfortable in the system. You don't
have to learn. So there's that moment where it kind
of it kind of matches up. And even though you
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could run to make every play, now you know the
cheat steps right now, you know the cheat codes, if
if you, if you will, Um, how close are you
to that spot? Um, it's you're never You're never always
at that spot. You're always improving. That's the thing. There's
always more than you can know. There's always more that
you can get familiar with and prepare for. Um every
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single every single game week. Um, you're never there, You've
never made it. Um. Like I said, just keep harping
on on constant improvement, UM, getting better every single chance
you get. Just keep adding to that to that mental
intelligence box that you have. The game of football. You know,
it's fascinating that this team's offense gets discussed a ton,
mostly because the contract kind of the contract situation. A
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couple of guys, but you play with Jalen obviously, Byron yourself,
some of the it's a young, really really talented defense.
How do you guys collectively handle the fact that it
does feel like the offense gets talked that a lot.
And look, I've talked to Tony Romo about this. He's like, look,
you want track teams are gonna, you know, making the
Super Bowl, gotta have top ten defense and amount how
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good we were on offense. But how does but there's
egos in that room. How do you handle the fact
that in the preseason at least people only talk to offense.
I likable, people don't talk about us. I mean keeps
us quiet and I mean we just go out there
and do our job. We're not flashy. We just love
playing football. We got a young group, like you said,
and we love playing football with each other, flying around
making play. So um, I mean, unless that people talk
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about us, the better I think, in my opinion. How
many snaps did you get against the Niners? Eleven? Did
you get hit somebody? Yeah? What'sh Who do you know
who was? It was one of their tight ends and
one of the running backs. Um, I don't know the names.
What's the feeling like of the first hit of an
opponent of the year? Um, I mean you gotta you
have a Knox and rust off, that's for sure. Um.
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And the way I look at it, I mean, if
you're gonna miss tackles, you miss him now. So I
mean missed my first tackle? Yeah, I did so, And
obviously I irritates me a lot when I missed the tackle.
I take a lot of pride in being a share tackler. So, UM,
just knocking the rust off and getting those game reps
is important. Okay, it sounds like you've watched the film.
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It sounds like you're still ticked about it. Give me
the play. Give me what happened had you missed the tackle? Um,
there are an inside zone and I fit my gap,
fell back to the B gap and I had him
in my arms and I just didn't make tackle. That
was literally so you didn't make contact, You didn't wrap up,
did you know? Uh, he kind of just brushed me off. Um.
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I think I just didn't fit it as hard as
I should have fitted. Um. Obviously, when what do you mean, like,
go in there like as hard as I should and
I expect expect because I was expecting to make the
play in my gap, but he kind of bounced a
different gaps, so I just fit that one for it,
and he kind of just brushed me off, had in
my arms and I just didn't wrap up get enough,
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all right, I mean like, look like you said it's
better to do it, then, then then then do it.
Um you're going to Hawaii, right, you've been I haven't. Uh, okay,
you're gonna like I mean, you know, guys are only
there for a short period of time. Have you served here? No?
Why not? Uh? I haven't had a chance. I mean, listen,
you's not not that far to get aboard. You gotta
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you gotta, you gotta hit a wave at some point.
I probably will sooner or later eventually, but probably not
in the not in the in the near future. Um.
We've watched some of hard knocks they get they have
one particular rookie who I think comes across a little
bit of annoying. I don't know, And I'm just wondering
if there's any annoying rookies that you'd like to like
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to share, you'd like to call out on national radio. Um, No,
I think we got a we got a good young group.
Um obviously, I mean the whole team is young, So
I mean I feel like we bond really well. Yeah. No,
it's a it's an amazing group. Um. It to. In
the media, there's a lot of talk about Miami, that
that Miami is a focus of the front office. Do
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you guys talk about the lot Um No, I mean
we focus on ourselves. We focus on just doing our jobs, um,
getting better at what and getting better at every single
area that we can and focus on what we can control. Um,
just limiting the outside noise and everything and just doing
us well. Listen, congrats on doing you last year. Hopefully
no more miss tackles in the upcoming preseason, but thanks
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so much for joining us. Awesome. Thank you Lane Vanderest
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of the Doug Gottli Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well welcome,
It's Doug Gotlieb Show live here at Dallas Cowboys training camp.
Completing our training camp tour for the one to third
consecutive year. We've gotten a chance to see the Rams
in person, defending NFC champions UH, the Chargers in person
(00:44):
team that tied for the best record in UH in
the a f C last year and lost in New
England Patriots in the second round of the playoffs. And
the Dallas Cowboys, who of course are some people's preseason
favorites to reach the Super Bowl out of the NFC,
and of course they're without their start running back. They
have their star quarterback, they're looking to resign him and
(01:05):
his wide receiver. There's a lot going on with the
Dallas Cowboys. We'll we'll jump into By the way, we're
gonna catch up with Jason Witten, who of course retired
for one season, then came out of retirement. He's back
with the Pokes. Will get his sense of all the
things that are the same, all the things that have
changed in his one year away from not just Cowboys
(01:26):
but ox starret what's this training camp like for him.
We'll talk some broadcasting, do a little bit of everything
with with Jason Witten. Plus we got some Andrew luck
for you. How the Pittsburgh Stealers have one the weekend
with the wild insaney nous that's going on out in Oakland. Uh,
the n c A doing a quality back pedal, Like,
we got a lot of a lot of stuff to
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get to, plus some preseason thoughts. We get ready for
week two of the preseason. But let's start where we
are here, the Dallas Cowboys. So yesterday the story leaks
that Dak Prescott has reportedly turned down a deal that's
worth thirty a year because he once forty a year.
Now in fairness, it's all negotiation, right, Like you can
(02:08):
throw out any sort of number, And this used to
happen with Scott Boris clients. I mean hack even happened
this past offseason with Bryce Harper. Did the Phillies actually
get a deal? Well, no, they spent over three billion dollars,
but there was thoughts that he would make five million dollars,
So I guess maybe maybe that's a deal. The issue
(02:30):
with with Dak Prescott is really this is we're sitting
here on the precipice of a season one which he
still will be undercompensated based upon what his job normally pays,
and that, by the way, is supposedly the Cowboys fault
like right, like the Cowboys nailed the draft, Dak Prescott
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got a d U I before the draft, and because
Dak Prescott was sloppying at times inaccurate in spite of
having an incredibly successful college career at Mississippi State, I
gets the Cowboys fault like they have to repay him
because he was Johnny on the spot when Tony Romo
goes down with injury and his backup goes down with
an injury and he gets an opportunity like, Okay, I
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guess I don't frankly understand that logic. I always thought
that the thing about the NFL and the NFL's contracts,
which were great. Is they paid you. Usually I pay
you based upon what they think you are worth during
the time in which you're playing for that team, right
like baseball. Sometimes they pay you for for the past,
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and they pay you way too much, too long into
the future, and you don't live up to it. NFL contracts,
while people tell you they aren't guaranteed, usually it's the
first year to three years that are guaranteed, and that's
really the meat of where you're gonna be successful quarterbacks
obviously exclusion. But if I'm the Cowboys, this is such
a risk we're taking if he wants to walk from him,
(04:01):
if he wants to walk with the idea of, hey,
overpay me by five or six million dollars to get
the thirty isn't enough. I want you to overpay me
by ten or fifteen million dollars. Is like, I'm the Cowboys.
I'm okay with that. And look, Doc has done the
right thing, unlike seek not showing it, like you want
to lead. You want to be the Cowboys quarterback. You
have to be here because you put yourself in an
(04:23):
impossible situation to live up to any contract. If you
know show on camp running backs obviously little a little different,
but you do run the risk at least of soft
tissue injury, of not being yourself, not being sharpened by
the way cost your team games, which is the ultimate
selfishness in the in the team game. But but I
look at this and I say, if I'm the Cowboys,
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I don't have to pay it for the first couple
of years in which you were underpaid. Don't have to
I may out of the goodness of my heart. And honestly,
getting the thirty million dollars is overpaying um And and
this is not a I'm over paying based upon the
fact that he's not just an elite quarterback. I think
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you're overpaying because the key to the Cowboys rise to prominence.
They had a great quarterback, they had a great wide receiver,
they had a great tight end. They've had good running backs.
The difference is the depth of talent the offensive line
in on the defense, and that has been able that
that has been allowed based upon their bid to spread
(05:26):
the wealth. Like we're all paying attention to the same thing. Right,
There's one pool of money, and if you put too
much into Deck's basket, you have to eliminate something else,
and if you eliminate that one other thing, he might not.
He's not good enough to carry you. Romo was. But
even if Romo and I think he's better quarterback, just
more brittle obviously, But even Romo couldn't win because you
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have the defense around him. I just didn't. Never had.
When they had the defense, they were a playoff team
when they didn't. They weren't really that simple. So I
can like that. I can understand and respect that he
wants to be paid and overcompensated based upon fact he
was undercompensated to be a starting quarterback on the team
that twice won the division. Fine, we also know that
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he's not the reason they won the division, right, Like
we're all being realistic about this. They weren't gonna win
the division. And then the Washington Redskins lost not one,
but both of their quarterbacks as they broke their ankle,
broke their like Carson Wentz got hurt coming off in
a c L. And the New York Giants have been
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an abject and complete disaster, riding out this wave of
Eli manning like they Yes, you can sit there and
go like, well, they won their division. They did, but
the Redskins were actually winning the division when oh yeah,
by the way, the Cowboys went and traded a first
round pick for Mark Cooper. You know this is this
(06:55):
feels like it feels like politics. I'll never forget this.
I was. Um. I still had times appear in Oklahoma
City and a sports radio station there, and before President
Obama was elected, you get named. Jim Traber does afternoons there,
hardcore right winger. And I sat down next to him
and we're talking on air about the upcoming political season,
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and I said, well, a Democrat is gonna win. He's like, why, why,
why why do you say that? You know? He he
got really hot and bothered, and I said, look, this
is politics how it works. Right Like, we're swinging to
the right. Everybody in the left gets empowered, tells you
everything that's wrongs, and then we swing the left. And
then it becomes too much to the left and to
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all about you know, almost pitched as socialism and trying
to fix everything and help everybody, and business kind of
locks down, doesn't spending money. Then we swing to the right.
It's a it's a cycle of over and over and
over again. We keep doing it. In relationships. You have cycles,
right in in coaching, how many times you had a coach?
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If you have an offensive coach, he gets fired. What's
the next guy gonna be defensive coach? Right? If the
guy before his inexperience, the next guy is gonna have
what a ton of experience? And if you hire like
an old head, it's kind a ton of experience. The
next look at this, look at the Rams, the Rams,
who did they hire. They went from hiring Jeff Fisher,
who's been doing it forever, super boring, super solid, nobody
(08:26):
says anything bad, nobody says anything great. He's not super innovative,
but he does a good job. Like I remember Jeff Fisher.
You know he's moved a team before. That was a
big thing when they with the Rams, Like he's moved
a team before. Like, he's not a mover, he's not
a realtor. He's a football coach. How good a football coaches.
But they went from that to the most dynamic offensive mind,
the youngest coach in the league. Right, that's what people do.
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That's how the pendulum swings. So here with the Ray Ray,
with the with the Cowboys, excuse me, that's what it
feels like you go from massively under paying Dak Prescott
too massively overpaying Dak Scott, and what comes with it,
You lose some pieces. Your assumption is he's in elite quarterback,
he's making elite quarterback money. Don't believe me, Joe Flacco.
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Joe Flacco was the same quarterback he was before he
got hurt. After he got hurt, before he won the
Super Bowl, after he gets what changed in Baltimore? They
won a super Bowl, he got a big contract. People's
expectations of him change. So whether it's dating, or coaching
or or playing wet, the pendulum swings, and I feel
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like we know the Cowboys are ultimately going to give
in and get ultimately relent because that's kind of their
modus upper RANDI, which is they try and be as
super player friendly as possible. They love their guys even
more than you love their guys. But I do think
they're actually in a great spot here. If he wants
to bet on himself, fine, in the meantime, worry about
(09:52):
other deals. No you got Dot, No you got got
doc happens. I think that's what should actually happen. We'll
catch up with Jason Witten, who's basically a Ring of
Honor dude who came out of retirement to come play
for the Cowboys. How does his body feel? How is
the offense? It's a different offense than the one he
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played in the last time. And uh, we'll get his
sense of how Doc looks now as opposed to when
he played with TECT during his rookie and Decks second season.
That's up coming next live from Dallas Cowboys training camp.
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for the Ring of Honor coronation. I guess and instaid
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to say, you know, let's let's go back and let's
let's run it back. Let's do it again. Jason Witten
from wearing the star to the booth to back where
in the star? How you doing? I'm doing well, man,
join every day I think, Uh, it's been a lot
of fun. And this is always a good time, you know.
I mean inter grind as you will know, but it's
also a good time when the team comes together, you know,
and you when you go through the journey, you think
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back at these moments. So if it's been a good
two weeks, obviously we got a lot to improve on. Well, look,
there's a there's a ton I want to ask you about.
But first I guess, how does your body feel like?
Because there is shape and then there's football shape, right,
And to those of us who have played sports, like
you could even like football, you can't really play with
your boys, but you can go play basketball. But then
you go and have like a real workout, and you're by, like,
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how how are you now? A couple of weeks in,
I feel good? You know, I mean I feel like
I'm always hesitant to say that because all old players,
you know, as they're towards the end of their career, like, oh,
this is the best I felt. This is the best
I felt, um And truly I think that year off
helped me. And then making the decision in March was
was huge because now I got the entire season. I
felt like I was building towards to this, you know,
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and so I haven't had a moment this entire offseason,
especially this training camp where I might dany. I don't
know how I'm gonna get through the day. You know,
this is gonna be a grinder. I haven't felt that,
and that's probably what it was so hard when I
did retire. I mean, I didn't feel like I can't produce,
I can't win on one on one matchups. I mean,
I know what my role is within this offense and
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convert some third downs and make some first downs and
help this team win some games. So I'm fortunate that
I play a position for whatever drop off I probably
have had over the course of my career. You know,
my game was never really built on those certain things,
and so I feel confident that, you know, I can
play just as well as I've as I've ever played,
and whatever role that is, it'll work itself out. It's
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Antonio Gates. You know, we talked. We do the Chargers
camp every year. We talked to them, and you know
last year this time he was sitting out They're like, look,
you know, at some point, tight end, you're not built
on speed. It's about understanding angles and and reading the defense,
and you know, like just catch it where it's thrown
to you. And relationship wise, if you could do it again,
would you Uh, that's the ultimate question, you know. I mean,
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I uh, I've tried really hard in my life not
ever to like look back. I mean, there's been challenges
in versity of my entire life to never look back,
and and honestly I learned a lot last year through
that experience. So um, I'd say no, you know, I mean,
in the fact of if you told me that was
gonna be my last football game and I didn't know
I was gonna have this opportunity again, then I'd say, yes,
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I made a mistake because I was not ready to retire.
I was not ready to stop competing. I was not
ready to UM. Winning and losing matter to me. Still,
I felt like there was something in me I could
give to a football team. And so if I if
I didn't have this opportunity again on the other side,
then yeah, I was the wrong decision because my heart
wasn't ready to give it up. UM. But knowing that
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I think I'm a better player having gone through that
season and the experience in the booth. Why what what what?
What did you What did you learn from not playing,
from from going around the league watching was a training camps,
then you know, going to all this what what do
you what did you pick up? Well? I think the
first thing is just internally, you know, the old saying
you don't know what's got to what's gone. I mean,
the fact of how much I love this game. I
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truly and if you ask my teammates with the course,
I mean I was a guy that really tried to
master his craft every day. So not from the moments
of that, but you know, you're so engulfed in being
the best, you know that sometimes you don't take a
step back and smell the roses a little bit um.
But but then that that would be the first part
of having another opportunity and enjoying every part of that
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process that goes into it and however long it lasts.
You know, nobody knows. It's it's a show me game
and I gotta be able to produce um. But going
to these other teams and seeing how they put together
a team and do that in an unemotional way. You know,
people always say, like when you're evaluating players or teams,
where you always most people have a jaded perspective when
they're doing it. And I was fortunate enough to have
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the opportunity my not football, to go in there and
really pull back, kind of have a thirty foot view
of it and say, like, you know, people would always
form narratives on it, and like you're able to kind
I said, well, no, really, what they were trying to
do was this and and a great example of that
was first game I called was the Oakland Raiders and
against the Rams last year, week one, and so I
kind of was here in the hype of Sean McVeigh
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and to see I'm like, wow, these are things that
he does really well and it paid off for him.
But then on the Oakland side of it, they traded
clear Mac right before that first week, so I got
to hear Oakland side of it, you know, John Gruden,
the ownership of why they traded that away, what they
felt like they got. And then the next week he
called the Bears and now you're here in their perspective
of their coaching staff and their general managers say well,
this is why we made that trade. And you catch
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yourself from like, man, that's interesting, what would I have
done in that situation? And so from overwhelming like football
knowledge and understanding. Uh, it's a great perspective. And now
I bring that back of how can I apply that
and helping help our football TA. You had a gap
year at thirty seven thirty six years old, right like
you had a gap here you got to go to
kind of study abroad, if you will, just Witten joining
us on the Gotlie Show here live at Dallas Cowboys
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training camp. When you left, Uh, Dak had come off.
I think what people would see him a disappointing year,
but a hard year, right because he and dez Des
was seemingly aging and there was some frustration there in
terms of them in the the ability to connect in
comparison to how he and Tony always connected. It was
also the year where Zeke was suspended and you guys
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fell off when he missed six games. Um, and you
know there were some other injuries and some other issues
that not having a great year. Fast forward, now what
was it two years later? And now you're in training
camp and now Dak has been the guy. He's obviously
in a contract re negotiation, but as just as a
player and playing within his offense and in a new offense.
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That's one thing that's lost is it's a new offense.
What is Dak like now in comparison to how he
was two years ago? Well, the first thing I would
say is just I mean, he's always been since minute
when he got here off the charts with all the intangibles.
I mean when you say teammates would run through a
wall form, every guy in that locker room would do that,
and that matters. That matters in today's game. Uh, you know,
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I think a lot of people just say give me
the best players and get out of the way. I
really believe that that part matters to your football team.
And then offensively, I think he's just his understanding. He's
performed at a high level, right, I mean he made
the playoffs two out of three seasons that he's been
the quarterback nine and seven the other year. So he's
produced at a high level and his record speaks for itself.
But I just think when you talk about mastering your craft,
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it's all the things that going to have split alignment,
tempo and out of the huddle. But then his ability
to kind of anticipate throws, the velocities he's throwing it. Hey,
I'm trying to get that to you sooner before that
corner can unfold and make a play. So just coverage
and anticipation of the of the game. You know, it's
a fast game. Certainly a quarterback. I think the best
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ones throw you open. They see it beforehand, and they
understand risk first reward and and uh so his ability
to create and do all these things outside of the pocket,
I think he speaks for itself. He's definitely a winner
from that standpoint. But I'm talking inside the pocket. It
his understanding of this offense and demanding everybody else perform
at a higher level. I think it's off the charts.
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It's always been at a high level, but I can
see huge improvement. What is the biggest difference in the offense? Well,
time will tell, but I think, um, you know the
first thing I would say, I mean the core of
this offense is very similar. Um, I think which which
which is what? Because last year I'll just tell you
how they spun it to us last year. Last year
we came here and they're like, look this whole number
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one wide receiver thing having elite tight end, like we're
just gonna find the mismatch and we're gonna we're gonna
have different formations and find the mismatch and pick and
and obviously there just wasn't enough mismatches and they've had
to bring in a Maori and obviously didn't have you
to fall back on um. But is the core the
off it's running the football? Like, what's the core? He said?
The core the offensie same? What is it? I think
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it is the identity is to be attacking offense that's
established through its running game, you know. And what maybe
different now then probably you know the last year's a
few years past was. I don't think that it always
has to be run set up past. I think it's
like when you're gonna attack, you can pass set up
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the run, you know. I mean they do need to
mirror each other and be married married up. From the
standpoint of runs look like past past looks like run
that's very elementary and from that standpoint, but I think,
you know, what I think this offense understands is when
you have this style of we're going to control the
line of scrimmage, you know, run action, play, action downhill
with Ezekiel Elliott Um. A handful of plays you know,
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matter you know. And I think when you look at
when we won the time as possession or I should
say they last year, I think the record was like
eight no when they won the time in possession uh
for the game. So that doesn't just mean running the football.
I think it's an attacking offense when that happens. Uh.
But within that formula, there has to be big plays
that come into it. You can't just think that you're
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gonna go on sixteen play a d R drives and
we're not immune to that. And I think that's where
Kellen comes in. I think Kellen has done a good
job of attacking in certain situations. Hey they're doing this,
we need to do this adjusting off of it. So
I think when you look at the really good coordinators
or play callers in this league and offenses as a whole,
because it's not always just about the play caller. UM.
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You know, Patrick Mahomes matters. You know, Tom Brady matters.
I mean different playmakers. Travis Kelsey that matters. UM. But
I think when you look at it's like there's four
to six plays that are game changing place, and you're
not gonna hit on all of them. But when I
look at Sean McVay system, or I look at Andy
Reid in different offenses. In our offense, at times when
it's performing at a high level, there's like these handful
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of plays are like they had no chance on that
play the defense, And I think that's where you're always
trying to get back to. Starts with the Mari Cooper
obviously starts with the running game. We'd be like we
have weapons, and then you find in these wrinkles. I mean,
Gallup's coming on in a second year. Randall Cobb is
a huge edition. You know, hopefully I can convert some
third downs. You know, Tony Pollard will be a new
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guy to that. So I think that's the core of
its offense. Kellen's feel of adjustments, how all that fits
in RPO games A big part of that. Shifts and motions,
Hiding some of those looks is a big part of it.
And then you know, creating matchups, you know, to where
we can take advantage of of what the defense has
given us. And people always say like, well, you know
they don't know his tendencies yet, you know, like a
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new coordinator. It will be some new wrinkles. I mean,
they'll find out. What people mean by that is what
I'm trying to say, is like, what are those four
to six place look like when we haven't seen them
in the past, you know, and and uh hopefully they
work out in a positive way. From I mean is exciting?
I mean, is it because there's some new newness. I
mean he's Kellen's obviously very young, comes you know, Boise
State and obviously spending time here in the league. Like it.
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It feels like there's like a little bit more of
a creative look at some of the same things you've
been trying to do. Yeah, and I mean you know
some of them are uh sample sizes of it, you know.
I mean you're not seeing a ton of it at
different times. And I think it's all gonna involve. It's
always evolved. And you look what Andy Reid's done with
that offense in Kansas City. So um, I think it
helps when you have really good players. And then it
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starts with Dock's ability. I think he's just at another
level with the throwing of the football and how he's
creating these plays. Because you start throwing in zone reads
and now our pos and bootlegs outside the pocket. But
then also you you know, Mary Cooper has been great
in the quick game. I mean it's a hard matchup
in one on one, So I mean all that kind
of come together. I think it's a powerful offense. But
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you can't just rely on oh, we're good up front,
we're gonna win it, and Zeke's gonna carry us there.
I mean, certainly Zeke's a huge part of that. But um,
that's what you're trying to figure out. Speaking of speaking
of Zeke. Um, obviously not your first camp, so not
your first Dallas Cowboy camp with the whole or with
contract discussions. Does it in any way invade the meeting
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rooms that like all of this other talk, because I'll
just tell you, like Twitter, air waves and what we do,
it's all we talk about. What about within the insular
world of the Dallas Cowboys, do you guys here talk
about it very little? Does it affect your team? I
mean I think this team is unique and that guys
genuinely care about others. I mean, you know, obviously players
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want to get see other players get paid and work out. Um,
you know, it really hasn't been It's been a non
issue for our football team. I mean, first off, I
think camp's a time of individually what can I improve on?
Collectively what can we improve on? And you know that's
lingering out there and it's going through, but I don't know,
I just maybe it's just my confidence in this organization.
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Like a look, when they have a really good player
and they say they want to try to get something done,
it usually works out. And you know, it just makes sense.
I mean, Zeke wants to be here, they want him
hear um. You know, at some point it doesn't need
to happen, you know what I mean, Like the further
longest goes. I mean, I think we all need reps
and no matter what kind of training, not trusted. Zeke's
doing a lot of good training. There's nothing like playing football.
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And uh so you hope it's sooner than later. But
really it's been a non issue for our football team.
And I think that starts with just kind to who
those guys are. They're a big part of our team.
I mean, nobody love us playing and practicing like Zeke does,
you know, I mean Dax here, Mari how they approach it,
So it's kind of been an non issue for us.
And and I think this team, when you play for
this organization, you know, it's the bright light. If you
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get caught up and every little thing that happens, I mean,
you're never gonna accomplish what you hope to. And I
mean he's a huge part of this football team. Last thing,
how likely is this your last training camp? Oh? I
don't know. I mean I think at this point, you know,
it's I didn't when I came back. I never said, Okay,
I'm playing one year if we win the Super Ball
and done, you know, like that's not entered my mind.
I mean, I truly, going back to the money night football,
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I never even thought about broadcasting, you know, just like, okay,
you know in real time, it happens, happens, like I
gotta take this exactly, and I think percent of people
would probably do the same exact thing. Yeah, um, but
so look, nobody's standards from myself or higher than what
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I I'm put on me, you know. And I think
when you approach it that way, it's like you're gonna
know when it's time, you know, And it's like, as
long as I can play at a high level. And
that's a good question. You know, will you be able
to perform at that level. I hear that a lot,
and it's like, well, I'm trusting myself that I'm putting
in that work that's gonna allow me to be successful
in that situation. So very much could be my last
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training camp, but also you know, I could keep it going.
But regardless, UM, I really try not to think about that.
You know, it's like, hey, go enjoy the day after
you've gone through what I've been through as far as
like retiring and then coming back. You know, just there's
one thing. It's it's kind of keep playing grass, you know,
and I don't worry about all the other things going on.
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Just keep playing grass, and if you do that, the
weeds will disappear. Jason Witten, Dallas Cowboys Back in the Star.
Thanks so much all I appreciate it. Be sure to
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Show rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio, and uh
let's catch up with one of these star off some
lineman from UH from from the Dallas Cowboys. Of course,
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last year he was suffering from alert neurological disorder, and
now he's back and fully healthy and he's Travis Frederick.
He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sport. Trady, Hey,
you feeling I'm doing well? How are you? Guys? Take me?
Take me through kind of this journey for you. It's
been a long journey, very interesting, you know, because starts
from figuring out what's going on, and um, kind of
falling into into it and then trying to get better
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from it and recover from it. And um, it's been
a lot of time spent you know, in the weight
room and that getting ready there, but also you know,
in the meeting rooms trying to help the guys out
and and that, and then uh to come back to
training camp, trying to figure out how to play ball again.
You you mentioned the weight room and trying to get
back to where you needed to be. What was the
How bad was it when you first got back after it? Oh,
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I mean from the beginning it was like it was
very bad. Like I was having a hard time walking
without along lifting weights. So um, getting back in the
weight room trying to do things. You know, you're you're
lifting weights that I could have lifted when I was
ten years old. Um, but you just kept pushing on
it and pushing on it and taking what was you know,
what was given and as my body was recovering, just
taking a little bit more and then you know, getting
back to full strength. When was the moment where where
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you think, where you were really this is going to
because everybody and I like you, look, you want to
push yourself if not for an indomitable will, right not
unless you had that belief in yourself that you could
come back. But there had to be a moment of affirmation.
Wasn't there where you're like, oh, this is this is
gonna be okay. Things started to really take a turn
right around Bye Week last year. Um, you know I
was kind of in a dark hole for a while there,
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but um, the recovery started and uh it started to
make some bigger, sign more significant gains. And I think
that was the moment when I knew that I was
at least going to get close back to full strength.
Travis Frederick joining us Doug Olives Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um okay, so what's what's this group like
as opposed to previous groups you've played with? You know,
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this is a great group of guys, and I'm really
excited to be with him. Uh, not only from a
team aspect, but offensively and as an offensive line. You know. Um,
I've been really pleased with the with the work that
the offense has done, you know, with Coach Moore coming
in making a few changes, um and getting that all
figured out. The install has been clean, it's been good,
and guys have really focused in on it and and
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and try to take advantage of those changes. So you know,
I'm excited to get out there, you know, in the
regular season and get moving with it. Is it is
it challenging at all to not have your running back,
you know, I think that most of our system is
very similar to what we had been doing before that.
The changes are you know, schematically bigger fixtures type of stuff.
So a lot of the stuff is the same, and
so our job as an offensive line is to block
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it a certain way, no matter who the runner is,
no matter who the quarterback is, no matter what is
going on in the wide receiver position as well. So
for us, it doesn't really change anything at this point.
You mentioned coach More. You have him, he's younger, but
he's also a former quarterback. Does that change in terms
of his ability to understand what you have to do
and how each place should be blocked. Yeah, it's it's
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really interesting seeing the perspective from somebody that's that's been
in and seen it like that, UM, and and very
recently as well, you know, and it was just a
couple of years ago. I was sitting on the bench
next to him, and so that's always a that's a
fun thing that you know, we've seen the game together.
He was played quarterback behind me, so we have an idea, UM,
and we're on the same page. And so when you
have that sort of fresh experience, I think that that
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really helps in connecting with the quarterback, connecting with the
young offense and knowing, uh, the challenges of today's you know, NFL.
What about the challenges of the fact that you did
play together, right, Like, he he's I'm not necessarily your boss,
but he is telling you what to do, and you
you're like, look, we're contemporaries. What about that challenge? You know?
It's interesting, Um, But it's also it's it's kind of
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a weird dynamic because you know, in the NFL, it's
different than colleges differ in the high school. When you're
in high school, the coaches is the end all be all.
When you're in college, Uh, the coaches the boss and
and and that's kind of that way here. But also, um,
it really is a team effort at all points. You know,
the coaches have have a specific job, the players have
a job, the staff people have a job, the executive
have a job. But we all feel like we're really
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on the same team and trying to work together. And
I think, uh, Coach Moore, it's in a great job
of sort of embracing that and doing it as a team.
Taking input from the offensive line. He travel, why don't
we block it this way? Or what do you think
about this? And I'll tell him, well, here's our challenge.
We'd be happy to do it, and however you want
to do it. But this is the implication of that change.
And so um, just by being able to have that conversation,
it allows us to sort of expand and um think
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about things in a different way. Uh. Last thing, Uh,
you know, we talked with with about about Dac and
I asked about the difference and you know, not being
here last year and and how much he's changed. Similarly,
for you obviously with all of your challenges last year,
it was time away from playing with him. How is
he different? How is he better? Is he worse in
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comparison to last time you're in training camp with him?
You know, it's hard for me to evaluate a quarterback
on the quarterback position, UM, but what I can evaluate
is the way that he leads the team, the way
he carries himself, UM, the way that the offense runs
while he's in there. Learned all of those things seemed
just so much more comfortable and uh, you know, um,
all the gears are all sort of sea going in
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the same direction, UM, where sometimes you know with younger guys,
you know, it might be skipping a beat every once
in a while. And I think that things have really
he's really settled into the offense and feels really comfortable
with it. And you know, it was it was really
interesting for me to see him grow last year. You know,
I was kind of on the sideline, but I was
still in it. I was, um as involved as you
can be for not being being out there on the field,
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and UM to see him grow, um and be able
to handle some of the protection stuff and see a
little bit more what the offensive line is seeing because
I wasn't out there handling it. Um. I think that
that really helped bridge the gap too between the quarterback
and offensive line, and I think that as an offense, UM,
he's done a good job of bringing everybody together really quickly.
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Did you play the backup lineman? Played like sixty two snaps?
Did you play against against the Niners? Yeah? I played
just that first. Seriously, what's it? What's it like to
get back out there? It's great. I mean, that's great feeling.
After everything I've been through, to be able to go
back out there and play football professionally is a It's
a really special deal. Welcome back. Obviously a huge part
of what the Cowboys do and want to do this season.
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Thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me,
Travis Frederick back. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Layton Vanderessha check it in with us here on the
Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. As the guys
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have already had their walkthroughs, their showers now probably some
meetings and then afternoon practice, Laton, how are you We're
really really really good. Um. What's this camp like in
comparison to last year? Um, this camp, I would say, Um,
I mean everything is more familiar. Um just being out there,
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being used everything, not having to learn the playbook and everything.
It makes a lot easier. Um, just being able to
go out there and cut a loose and start working
on other parts of the game. UM. It's interesting because
you know, last year, everyone knew that you could be
in the position you're in. Was there a moment for
you where you're like, oh, yeah, this, I'm I'm good here,
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I'm confident. Was was there the moment of confidence of
belonging at any point that you remember? Um? I was
always confident in myself from from the get go. But UM,
I would say, really, Um, just as a as a
season started and I was really getting reps, especially when
Sean went down. UM, just I was gaining confidence like
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like crazy, um, game in and game out, and just
taking things slowly, taking things one day at a time,
not getting too far ahead of myself and just just
trusting my instincts, trust my abilities. How was san Sean
was Sean has been awesome the whole entire process. Uh,
he's been phenomenal. Um. I mean he's like a big
brother to me, and he's always he's always helping me,
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always giving me a little cheats, hints here and there. Um,
always just always just trying to help me on my game.
What's that like to I mean for a guy who like, look,
you're kind of brought in to take his job, right,
I mean you're you're you're brought in to be what
he has been. And look, he's had the unfortunate run
of injuries like he had last year at previous times.
What's it like to be a young guy? You walk in,
here's this older dude and you're and all of a
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sudden he's helping you out and he's helping you get better.
It just shows what what what kind of caliber of
guy he is. And the respect that he has for
his teammates, his coaches in the game football, Um, you
can't you can't teach that. And the amount of heart
that that guy has. Um, I mean everybody would go
to everybody would go to war with him and for
him no matter what. So UM, I mean I have
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the most respect possible that I could for for a
guy like that, and and I mean, uh, I'm just
trying to give back, give back to him, um, using
what he has to tell me on the field, and
to show him that I'm gonna go out there and
that he can trust me to do my job and
trust me to fill in his spot if he needs
me to. Late man Ric joined us in the Doug
(35:04):
Gotlip Show on Fox Sport Trade Live at Dallas Cowboys camp.
Have you matched up with Whitten yet? I have? Yeah,
yeah a few times now. Um. It's crazy. Every time
I line up against him, It's like who would have thought,
uh this, it would be like this one day? Um,
but I mean it's it just it just shows you
not to take anything for granted. And that is pretty
(35:25):
special that you get to actually line up against guy
like that, Um and practice and practice against the guy
of his caliber. How's he running? Oh, he's just as
good as ever. Um, he knows how to run aroute.
He's he's really he's really smart with everything he does.
This guy's is everything. Um that. I mean, the dude
the nude knows the ins and outs of football, so
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he knows it works and what doesn't that It's interesting
you point that out because there's something the same for you, right,
Like you're a crazy athlete, like you're off the charts athletes.
So there's the athleticism and is the football like you
and you've always had a good football, but you need
to play in the NFL. And like you said this
year in camp, you're comfortable in the system. You don't
have to learn. So there's that moment where it kind
of it kind of matches up. And even though you
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could run to make every play, now you know the
cheat steps right now, you know the cheat codes, if
if you, if you will, Um, how close are you
to that spot? Um, it's you're never You're never always
at that spot. You're always improving. That's the thing. There's
always more than you can know. There's always more that
you can get familiar with and prepare for. Um every
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single every single game week. Um, you're never there, You've
never made it. Um. Like I said, just keep harping
on on constant improvement, UM, getting better every single chance
you get. Just keep adding to that to that mental
intelligence box that you have. The game of football. You know,
it's fascinating that this team's offense gets discussed a ton,
mostly because the contract kind of the contract situation. A
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couple of guys, but you play with Jalen obviously, Byron yourself,
some of the it's a young, really really talented defense.
How do you guys collectively handle the fact that it
does feel like the offense gets talked that a lot.
And look, I've talked to Tony Romo about this. He's like, look,
you want track teams are gonna, you know, making the
Super Bowl, gotta have top ten defense and amount how
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good we were on offense. But how does but there's
egos in that room. How do you handle the fact
that in the preseason at least people only talk to offense.
I likable, people don't talk about us. I mean keeps
us quiet and I mean we just go out there
and do our job. We're not flashy. We just love
playing football. We got a young group, like you said,
and we love playing football with each other, flying around
making play. So um, I mean, unless that people talk
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about us, the better I think, in my opinion. How
many snaps did you get against the Niners? Eleven? Did
you get hit somebody? Yeah? What'sh Who do you know
who was? It was one of their tight ends and
one of the running backs. Um, I don't know the names.
What's the feeling like of the first hit of an
opponent of the year? Um, I mean you gotta you
have a Knox and rust off, that's for sure. Um.
(37:57):
And the way I look at it, I mean, if
you're gonna miss tackles, you miss him now. So I
mean missed my first tackle? Yeah, I did so, And
obviously I irritates me a lot when I missed the tackle.
I take a lot of pride in being a share tackler. So, UM,
just knocking the rust off and getting those game reps
is important. Okay, it sounds like you've watched the film.
(38:18):
It sounds like you're still ticked about it. Give me
the play. Give me what happened had you missed the tackle? Um,
there are an inside zone and I fit my gap,
fell back to the B gap and I had him
in my arms and I just didn't make tackle. That
was literally so you didn't make contact, You didn't wrap up,
did you know? Uh, he kind of just brushed me off. Um.
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I think I just didn't fit it as hard as
I should have fitted. Um. Obviously, when what do you mean, like,
go in there like as hard as I should and
I expect expect because I was expecting to make the
play in my gap, but he kind of bounced a
different gaps, so I just fit that one for it,
and he kind of just brushed me off, had in
my arms and I just didn't wrap up get enough,
(39:04):
all right, I mean like, look like you said it's
better to do it, then, then then then do it.
Um you're going to Hawaii, right, you've been I haven't. Uh, okay,
you're gonna like I mean, you know, guys are only
there for a short period of time. Have you served here? No?
Why not? Uh? I haven't had a chance. I mean, listen,
you's not not that far to get aboard. You gotta
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you gotta, you gotta hit a wave at some point.
I probably will sooner or later eventually, but probably not
in the not in the in the near future. Um.
We've watched some of hard knocks they get they have
one particular rookie who I think comes across a little
bit of annoying. I don't know, And I'm just wondering
if there's any annoying rookies that you'd like to like
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to share, you'd like to call out on national radio. Um, No,
I think we got a we got a good young group.
Um obviously, I mean the whole team is young, So
I mean I feel like we bond really well. Yeah. No,
it's a it's an amazing group. Um. It to. In
the media, there's a lot of talk about Miami, that
that Miami is a focus of the front office. Do
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you guys talk about the lot Um No, I mean
we focus on ourselves. We focus on just doing our jobs, um,
getting better at what and getting better at every single
area that we can and focus on what we can control. Um,
just limiting the outside noise and everything and just doing
us well. Listen, congrats on doing you last year. Hopefully
no more miss tackles in the upcoming preseason, but thanks
(40:28):
so much for joining us. Awesome. Thank you Lane Vanderest
joining us on The Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
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