September 10, 2019 • 35 mins
Doug discusses the thrilling finish to Texans vs Saints on Monday Night Football and why Deshaun Watson deserves blame for all the sacks Houston takes. He also thinks Odell Beckham Jr continuing to wear a watch on the field shows the issues the Browns will face this season. Plus, ProFootballTalk Analyst and former NFL QB Chris Simms joins the show to breakdown what he saw from all the QBs around the NFL from week 1.
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So last night one game went essentially as we sort
of predicted. I did think that the Saints would win.
I also thought that they would cover. They did not.
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My picks against the line we're both was oh in
two last night, But I thought that the Saints were
the better team. They were in fact the better team,
although they allowed the Texans to hang around. But the
big discussion I feel like today is over the Houston
Texans and their offensive line now obviously adjusting and putting
Laramie Tunsil in at such a late notice, at such
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a late moment in time is really really hard. Okay,
it's it's just it's hard, you know, in in short
order to make that sort of change, You're not going
to be seamless. I mean, we're asking a lot of
that group. On the other hand, and this is really
important as well, they weren't terrible and it's not all
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the offensive line's fault. It's just not Chris Sims is
going to join us. Upcoming in fifteen minutes, we'll talk
some quarterbacks with the former starting quarterback in the Nation
Football League. Deshaun Watson took six sacks last night, and
the common reaction has been, man, Texans, still gotta fix
that offensive line. You know, he's gonna turn into the
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next Andrew Luck and and in in fairness to Deshaun
Watson like this. This also, by the way, you may
not like my millennials tweet you may have been really
hot bothered. Joe Clapp was mad about it yesterday even
though we weren't even talking about He tried to bring
it back up. But like Deshaun Watson, he had a
collapse long. He want to play so bad he had
them drive him to Jacksonville last year. Like that's football guy. Stop.
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He's had two torn a c l s and Deshaun
Watson not walking away from this game. Maybe it's because
he did not grow up um as affluent as as
Andrew Luck did. But I just think he has a
more more of a football players mentut traditional football players mentality.
But this idea that well, they gotta still gotta fix
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the offensive line. They drafted ted As Howard in last
year's draft. Now he was inactive because he had a
broken finger. They just moved the moon the stars in
the sun to get Laramie Tunsil. They've had him for
over a week, so their offensive line is actually improving
and we'll get better and oh yeah, by the way,
they did average seven point eight two yards per carry,
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not necessarily the sign of a struggling offensive line. I
know some of that is he had a couple of
long scrambles, but but you know, at some point in
time we have to point out that I like Deshaun Watson.
Everyone I know likes Deshaun Watson, and we so badly
want Deshaun Watson to be a star that when something
goes wrong, we blame the line. We blame Bill O'Brien,
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We blame the late Bob McNair for saying the inmates
run the prison. We blame whoever are Lamar mill are
getting hurt. Have we ever thought to say, you know,
you know, Deshaun Watson holds on the ball a little
bit too long, right like that, there's a reason and
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Shaun Watson still scrambles that. There's a reason that Tom
Brady is able to play at forty two years old
because he gets he gets rid of that ball quickly.
Or Drew Brees. Now you can sit there and go like, well,
you know those teams they've built an offensive line. Hey,
the Patriots, they had to change centers twice over the
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last couple of weeks because of injury. They've worked through
new offensive lineman there. He's had bad years offensive line wise.
He did get hit and hurt once. Drew Brees hit
and hurt once, debilitating injuries Breezed the shoulder and uh
and Brady the knee. But the fact is that both
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have learned one the pocket is actually the safest place
on that field to have a football, and two gotta
get rid of it quickly. You just do. You gotta
get you gotta get rid of it quickly. And this
is why guys that process so quickly, Guys that our
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computers and passing games that allow you to get rid
of the ball quickly are becoming the norm, not the exception.
Ask anybody who plays against Tom Brady, like man, pass
first doesn't really matter. He gets he gets rid of
it so quick, and he gets rid of it so quick,
not just because he's hot pitating the ball, not just
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because the route combinations, but because he's he's seen so
many different looks. He knows what's coming, he knows what's open.
He knows exactly where he needs to go with the ball,
even if it's not. Doesn't mean you get it and
you throw it right away. They run some deep routes,
not a ton they do, but he he knows where
it's going as well before that ball is snapped, and
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he's able to get to that read in short order. Look,
that's what the Cardinals are trying to do, Kyler Murray,
right is how quickly can you and and it became
more and more effective as he started to process more.
It's the it's the Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfields not half
the athlete of Deshaun Watson. He didn't have the armor
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Deshaun Watson, and he wasn't great this weekend. But one
of the things that allowed him be number one pick
was he processes things so quickly so he can read it,
know where the ball is going, and get get it
out of his hands more quickly. So I'm not putting
all of the blame on Deshaun Watson. That would be unfair.
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I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback. That would be untrue.
I'm not saying you can't win with him. That has
proven to be untrue. But when you wake up and
you're like, man six more sacks. Here we go again,
Houston Texans offensive lines and issue the trader Laramy Tunsil,
Bill O'Brien. So can't figure it out. There's a he
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holds the ball a long time. Go look at the numbers.
According to Next Gen Stats, Deshaun Watson was tied for
eleventh in time to throw after taking a snap. That's
well above average. There's thirty two teams. He's not bottom
five of the league. He's top twelve of the league
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in in time he gets to throw. He gets plenty
of time. He just doesn't process a creek enough. It
doesn't get rid of it quick enough. Some of that's
the offense. Some of that's that he's taking time to
read it. Some of that it's it's his natural, you know,
make up early in his college career and in his
high school career was to tuck it and run it,
and so you have to, you know, remember to not
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put your eyes down. But some of that is just
he's got to get better about getting rid of the
football when in doubt, get it out. My my, my,
My late father had a belief and it went like
this with playing with foul trouble. He would teach guys
to play with foul trouble. And one of the things
he would say was like, look, if you had two
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fouls in the first half and a guy's got an
open lamp, give him the lamp. I don't try and
block the shot or take a charge. Be it like
do I want you to do those things absolutely, But
the fact is that the likelihood you get called for
a foul, and if you get that foul, I have
to take you out of the game. Like understand that
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we can't win without you, can't wit without you. And
so any potential if there's a chance of making a
defensive plate in the first half, let him go. Let
him go, because if you let them go, there's a
hundred percent chance you get to keep playing. People used
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to make fun that. It made fun of lots. They
made fun of Aaron Rodgers last year when he would
get rid of the football. You know, Aaron Rodgers didn't
do He did not turn the football over only two interceptions.
Don't take sacks, you can't get hurt. Don't don't you know,
force the ball into coverage. You can't throw interceptions. Now
we we we have this runt. We the bread Farve
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days of forcing something into coverage are gone. And the
Ben Roethlisberger days of holding on the football to make
it a play seem to be gone. To get it
and get rid of it. And if you you want
to point to the problems of the Houston Texans, they
have several, but maybe the biggest of them is that
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their greatest strength on offense, Deshaun Watson can be their
biggest weakness. He has to get rid of the football
more quickly. He has to process what he's seeing at
a more rapid pace, and if he does that well,
then he can live up to all the hype that
we think he deserves. None of this says he's a
bad guy or a bad quarterback, but it has to
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be a cognitive effort. They gotta be better blocking and
they should be with the addition of Laraymy Tunson when
they get fully healthy, and he's got to do a
better job to get rid of the football. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug Leap Show weekdays
at noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome and Chris Sims,
of course, played for Jon Gruden in Tampa. You see
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him on Football Night in America on Sunday Night. So
many things to get to, um, let's let's let's start
with the first game last night. How much of Deshaun
Watson getting sacked six times is the offensive line which
is still getting put together, and how much of it
is Hey, dude, you're you're holding the ball too long. Yeah,
I think, Uh, listen, there was definitely a handful of
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plays where it's the offensive line. Hey, it's flare me
tons all franchise left tackle still learning on the fly,
and we got some new pieces. Uh. But I mean,
you know, am I gonna put If I was gonna
blame it, I'd go like it's seventy thirty. I'd go
seventy on the offensive line, And like on Deshaun Watson
because he does hold onto the ball too long, and hey,
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this is a gift and the curse. You know he
holds the ball on too long. Why because gosh, a
lot of the time, like we saw last night, he
makes some freaking magic happen. Uh. So that's the real
that's the real thing. But the one thing I'll say
about them more than anything, Doug, it can't go on
like this. There's no way he can make it through
the season taking the kind of hits he took last night.
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He's got to do a better job of taking care
of his body when he does run. He's got to
do a better job of just throwing the ball away
in some situations when he feels like there is a
free runner about to hit him, and Bill O'Brien and
the Texans coaching staffs gotta do something to find him
a few easier completions throughout the game. I mean, all
the great ones. You saw Brady the other night gets
to throw a few screen passes and they do some
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trick plays. You gotta have some plays in there where
the quarterback doesn't have to dissect and do everything per
sect perfect. He can just go, Okay, I'm gonna throw
to this guy. Let's get some cheap yards and move on.
Every play is like the last play of the game
with the Shaun Watson and the Houston Texans, and I
just worry about him and his health for a whole season.
How much of the Raiders win over the Broncos was
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this kind of unifying force because Antoni O Brown wanted out?
And how much of it is Hey, a great game
plan and just an improving team. Yeah, it's a it's
an improving team. I do think that the circumstances of
Antonio Brown can unite a football team. You know, at first,
I'm sure they were all about, hey, we need to
get Antonio here. That's great, But I'm sure when it
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went into like Strike forty five or Antonio Brown. They
were like, Okay, enough is enough. I'm sick of this
damn guy. We can win without him. He's not God
for the football team. And I'm gonna give my ex
coach a lot of credit. I mean, John Gruden, I mean, yeah,
the offense look good. I heard what you were just saying,
staying saying about the third down conversions. They were patient
on first and second down. He was patient with the
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run game. He didn't get caught up in like, oh,
we're not gashing him in the run game. Let me
just dropped back the pass and keep throwing the ball.
You know, know, any good offense has to stay patient
with the run game, even though if it's not accumulating yards,
it's about the attempts. The attempts are almost just as
important as the yards because it opens up everything in
the past game. It keeps a deep sense, hon ut,
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it keeps a pass rush on us uh. And then
Noakland played really good last night. I gotta give Johnny
g a lot of credit. Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice of Chris Simms. Um,
you spent some time the coaching staff of New England Patriots.
And I know that the Patriots have consistently since Tom
Brady has been the quarterback done a great job against Pittsburgh,
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but that one felt different like this. It felt like
it wasn't just a schematic mismatch. It felt like a
bit of a talent mismatch. I walked away from Sunday
night thinking, I'm still stunned they made the Super Bowl
two years ago with that no playmaker defense, right, like
that was more impressive than if they make the Super
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Bowl this year, because I feel like their personnel is
really really good to go along with the coaching is
really good. Am I overselling how much they've improved that
overall roster. No, I don't think you're overselling it. I mean,
you know, you talk about the offensive line, it's one
of the best in football. It's one of the most
versatile front sevens in all of football all it's arguably
the best secondary in football. I mean, they can match
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up with any set of receivers in football. That's what's
amazing about them. You know, they just got guys for everything. Oh,
you got big receiver, Okay, we got j. C. Jackson.
He's a big corner or our second round pick Joe
Juwan Williams at a Vanderbilt. He can cover a big
side receiver to Oh you gotta you know, a jitterbug
type like slave receiver. Oh we got Jonathan Jones. That's great.
Oh you got like just an absolute baller receiver Juju
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Smith Schuster. Well we got Stefan Gilmour. He's a baller.
They're unreal the way they're coached. Uh yes, I mean
really that's the beauty in New England. I mean New
England was rebuilding in two thousand, eleven and twelve and
thirteen and they were still going to Super Bowls and
an f C Championship games. The roster is pretty stacked
right now. And you know a lot of people always
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talk about like, oh, you know, they've never had great
wide receivers around Brady One. I always want to go like,
yes they have. That's disrespectful to a lot of great
receivers they've had there too. I mean, everybody's always open,
so you don't need to always have great receivers because
they have a great ski. But now the scheme is
like you're saying, got great talent around it. I mean
with Josh Gordon, Julian Edelman, Antonio Brown, Philip dor set
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Sony Michelle, that offensive line and then really probably the
best offensive system in all of football. I wish I
could change my Super Bowl picks. I went crazy and
didn't put the Patriots in the Super Bowl this year.
Now I would like to definitely put them in there.
I mean, they're they're they're pretty pretty stout on both
sides of the ball, Doug, how fixable are the Steelers issues?
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The Steelers? I'm not giving up on the Steelers. I
still think their defense can be good now where they
had a one big issue as far as Sean Davis
not being in the lineup a safety that really hurt them.
I mean, there there's a reason. Uh, the kid Cameron
Kelly or I hope I'm getting his name right, Yeah,
Cameron Kelly. Here's a reason he was in the A
A F last year. You know there's a reason. And
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you saw that he got outmatched in a few deep
balls down the field where he had no business probably
being on the field in general. But the big thing
I got Doug for the Pittsburgh Steelers more than anything
is who's gonna be Robin Who's gonna be Batman's Robin
because other than Juju Smith Schuster, who was going to
be that next guy up in that offense that can
take some pressure off of Ben Roethlisberger and off the
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offense in general. When a team does have a shut
down corner like stuff now and Gilmore or does double
Juju Smith Schuster, you know, in key passing situations. I
think that is a million dollar question about that Steelers team,
and I certainly didn't get answered. On Sunday Night, Doug
Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the voice
of former Texas star, former Notre Dame former whatever you
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want to say, no, sorry, sorry, and cover Notre Dame football.
Chris Sim's joining us from NBC Sports and UH Pro
Football Talk. Join us on the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, the Cleveland Browns have eighteen penalties.
Odell Beckham Jr. Is wearing a watch. Um. I don't
know if even of itself wearing watch maybe not that
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big an issue, but it is emblematic and symbolic, if
you will, of a team that lacks the type of
discipline that the big time teams seem to have. Right
like I'm not again, and I you know, you do
have to Seattle is a team that's been penalized because
they're super super physical, but that's not that's not the
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type of penalties they were getting. I feel like the
Freddie Kitchens thing, combined with the offensive line issues, combined
with some of the egos they have, like these are
all symptoms that were all fully on display in Week
one for the Browns. Am I making too big a
deal of the way in which they were beaten badly
at home? No? Well, I mean, listen, I got the
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same concerns you do. I get that. I think they're
all you know, you know, justified questions as far as
like things we still need to get answered in Cleveland. Uh,
I will say this, you know, the Tennessee Titans I
think are one of the very few teams in football
that can match up with that Cleveland Brown's offense in
a lot of ways that they're bill like New England,
a really versatile front seven, a great secondary, and then
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they got guys like Rabel and Dean p S who
come from New England and Baltimore who have a million
different coverages and things they can do in a game
plan to confuse a young quarterback like Baker Mayfield. I
watched the film in that game yesterday, Doug. Yeah, I
mean they threw out every coverage in the history of
football at Baker Mayfield. He was confused the time. He
certainly was off of his game. And you know, even
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saying all that, there they were momentum back on their side.
It's fifteen thirteen with three minutes to go in the
third quarter. They throw a screen pass to Derrick Henry
and the Red Sea parts and they run. He runs
for a seventy five yard touchdown. And the game was
never the same because then Baker Mayfield through three interceptions
in a row the next three drives that really put
it out of reach. But they do have to learn
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how to win. They are raw, they don't know how
to handle certain situations, and they were slopping in the game.
You talk about the penalties, Yeah, there was a few.
When I watched back the game, I went, oh, that's
a tough call. The you call in that situation on Cleveland,
But there were another a number of other ones, whether
it was holding, blocking in the back, some past interference
cause where I just go, it's not needed, it's sloppy,
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that's young, it's stupid. And this will be a big
game this week on Monday Night for them in the Jets.
I mean they go oh and too uh. You know,
we're gonna continue to criticize this crowd for sure. You
mentioned that he got he got confused. How much of
that because one of the things people have said about
Bakers always a football savant. I've pointed out second year
quarterbacks in the NFL, people make it out like they're
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so experienced. You know, he hadn't started a full season yet.
How much of that can you learn or how much
of that is just who you are at this point
in his career. Yeah, you know you can. You can
learn it. You can learn it. You know, he is
a football savant. But and still saying that, that doesn't
mean like your your point is real. I mean, just
because you're the second year in the NFL, he hasn't
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even started a full season yet, does not necessarily mean
he understands how to handle every situation that's thrown out
at him at this point, or exactly what to do
with the ball in certain coverages according to the down
and distance and that situation on the clock, and all
of those things that's gonna be you know, learning, learning
in progress. And you know what happens a lot of
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the times with like first the second year quarterbacks to
where sometimes we see them regress or do some stupid things. Well,
why they really regress or do stupid things because they've
been given more confidence by the coaching staff last year. Oh,
he's a rookie. Let's not run these plays, Let's do
the ones he likes. Let's keep it simple. Let's not
let our rookie quarterback, you know, lose the game for
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us and then lose his confidence. Of course, he had
some great things happened last year, and this year they
just opened the vault and they go, let's go, let's
let him do it all. Let's let him throw it everywhere.
Let's you know, let we we can trust him. And
you know, sometimes you lose sight of the fact that
even a guy like Baker Mayfield needs to be managed
to a degree. He hasn't been around the block seven
times like a Tom Brady or and Aaron Rodgers. And
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that showed in the game the other day. He just
was a little too loose with his decisions. He got
fooled a few times, a few balls just came awkwardly
out of his hand. That you don't see a whole
lot from Baker Mayfield. That's the voice of Chris Samas
joining us in the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio.
How much of the Ravens dominance over the Dolphins was
a scheme that fit Lamar Jackson and he played incredible.
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How much of it is they're playing the JV team
in the NFL. Yeah, well it's it's yeah. I mean,
that's a good way to put it. Put it. The
Miami Dolphins are definitely the worst team in football. I
don't think there's any denying that. And you know, I
actually that's another film I just got done watching, Doug Um.
It was the perfect storm. I mean, we knew the
Ravens wanted to run the football. The Dolphins have no
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difference makers on their front seven. They have nobody that
you go, oh, we have to worry about this guy,
or game playing this guy, or double team this guy
in the run game. There's nothing there. The best player
on their team is Xavien Howard, their corner who they
just paid a ton of money too. So they're undermanned.
We know that where they made the biggest mistake when
I just watched back the film, that jumped out to
me more than anything is I think they overreacted to
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the first play of the game, which was a forty
nine yard run by mark Ingram where they just absolutely
bludgeoned the Dolphins defense. But from that point on, you know,
they had a free safety in the middle of the field,
and he didn't play free safety. If they did a
run fake, he was down there by the linebackers. And
that's why on some of those those players we saw
the Lamar Jackson, you know, hit the deep touchdowns, it
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looks like was there no safety in the middle of
the field. No, there was, But the safety must have
been coached like, hey, we want you to stand there
in the deep middle, but as soon as you see
any type of run action, we want you to aggressively
come up and support the run and make Lamar Jackson
beat us in the past game. And he did do that,
and for some reason, the Dolphins never really backed off
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of that game plan. I mean, come on, I know,
we all gotta see Lamar Jackson, you know, uh, improve
on consistency throwing the football and all that. But after
the first two or three strikes he threw. I think
you'd go, Okay, this is the NFL and he's hot today.
I think we need to abort mission and change our
game plan of the defensive side of the ball and
maybe not be so aggressive with that free safety in
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the middle of the field. And they did not do that,
and the Ravens just kept laying it on him. Yeah,
I feel like, I mean I watched I know how
the Chargers prepared for him in the playoffs, and they
felt like his issues with accuracy were short and intermediate routes,
you know, and again zones and they were you know,
so many are you know, And and they added Hollywood
Brown who has just supreme speed take the top off
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a defense. So some of it is the adjustment in
Baltimore's personnel and and their game plan, but a lot
of it is in like, why are you playing man
and making him He actually has a very good arm
throwing the ball deep. It's the it's the accuracy stuff
which is given him issue. Definitely, Doug that it's a
great point. I mean, this goes on, you know with
a young quarterback or you're not sure about his accuracy
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and his you know, consistency and decision making. You don't
want to play man to man. You want to make
him read a defense this guy's zone and play playing
man demand's get out of jail free car For a
young quarterback, he doesn't have to think anything. Oh he
just goes. Oh I like that matchup. Let me throw
him a good ball. Oh he's opened one on one. Oh,
nobody's open. Let me just throw a jump ball or
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back shoulder. That's really what it is. So I'm with
you a little bit like Mitchell Drabinski with the Chicago
Bears and what we saw from the Green Bay Packers,
Like I would play confusing zones until he proves to
me you can pick apart the zone, and then we'll
change it up. But those guys, those type of quarteractions
they want man demand because then they don't have to
think and they don't have to be as accurate with
their throws. It's a great point by you. Um, you
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were there for the Green Bay game. How different is
that offense? Like give me give me your now you've
seen it. You've seen Aaron Rodgers and granted it's gainst
a very very good defense with what would that look
like against the Dolphins. I don't know, um, but as
a former NFL quarterback and the guy who's worked with
the Patriots and now you break down tape four Living
Packers offense two thousand nineteen, is it definitively going to
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be better for Aaron Rodgers in the end? I think
in the end it will be. I think it's going
to continue to be a little bit of a work
in progress. And I think as we all sit there
and watch TV and watch it for now, we're gonna
all go, well, this is underwhelming. You know, this isn't
so special because it's almost gonna go back old school
a little bit. They're gonna get an eye formation, they're
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gonna run downhill, they're gonna pull guards, they're gonna trap
people inside. They're gonna run inside and outside zone. So
it might not be a sexy with Roger sitting back
there in the shotgun directing traffic all the time, even
though there's gonna be plenty of that because they're gonna
he's got free reign. He can do whatever he wants.
But there is gonna be an attention to detail in
the run game like he hasn't had since he's been there.
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And that's where Matt Lafleur, Nathaniel Hackett the offensive coordinator.
You know the McVeigh Shanahan system that Lafour comes from.
Of course they believe in that. I think the big
difference you'll see and continue to see is going to
be the play action pass game. I think that's where
we're gonna see Aaron Rodgers air it out more this
year as the season goes a little bit. Like you
saw in that play action pass fake verse bomb down
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the middle that changed the field position on that one
touchdown drive, I think you'll continue to see plays dialed
up like that. They're gonna run the ball, take shots,
let Aaron Rodgers audible when he needs to, and they're
gonna play defense. That's the thing that jumped out to
me more than anything Doug being there in person. The
two Smiths, Darius and Preston Smith change the look of
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their defense along with Darnell Savage and Rashawn Gary. They
just got versatility and size and speed and it's a
very impressive defense in Green Bay. Like I would be
shocked if it's not in top ten, Top five conversation
when it's all said and done. Awesome, awesome stuff from
Chris Simms. You can watch him on NBC's coverage of
Notre Dame football. You can watch him on Football Night
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in America of course Pro Football Talk as well. That
means next Sunday Night Eagles Falcons on NBC. Awesome stuff,
Chris Simms. Chris thinks, so much for joining us. You're
the man, Doug. I'll talk to you soon, dude. Be
sure to catch live editions. So the Doug Got Leaps
Show week days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. Odell
Beckham Jr. Said he wants it to be about football,
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not the watch. Says if anyone else UH would have
worn it wouldn't have been an issue. If watch not
an issue, plans to wear it again. Oh boy, that's
quite literally doing the opposite of what you're saying. All right,
(27:29):
I don't want to make it about the watch. I
don't want to make it about the watch. So what
do you do? You keep wearing the watch. I want
to only make it about football, But I'm gonna keep
wearing the watch, which is not figuratively literally against the rules,
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literally against the rules, that's what it is. So I this,
this whole exercise is fascinating to me. Um sometimes we
identify problems, right. Offensive line issues are problems, penalties are problems.
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Odell Beckham jrs um watches a problem. But I actually
don't think Odell Beckham JRS watches the problem. I don't
think the penalties are the problem. I actually think that
these are just symptoms of the bigger problem, just symptoms
of the bigger problem, and the symptoms continue to add up.
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And the problem, if we dig deep down, is a
basic lack of discipline. And football is the ultimate team game,
but it's the ultimate discipline game as well. It just
is because nothing works unless all eleven on the field
are working together other right, Like, there's there's video out
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there of the Raiders offensive line getting destroyed last night
on a couple of plays, but it all worked together
because you have some blitz pick up and oh yeah,
by the way, you have a scheme where they were
getting rid of football quicker than anybody else in the league.
Just get it and get rid of it and get
it out the guys in space, because if you try
and hold on to it against Chubb and von Miller,
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you're You're dead. They're dead. When people say football is
the ultimate team game, they mean football is the ultimate
discipline game. There's a reason that when you start football
practicing your little kid, you say yes or and no
sir to your coach. Why they take the decals off
your helmet and by some people's estimation to humanize you
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just put your last name on a sticker on a helmet.
There's there's a certain amount of discipline that is needed,
that is needed, and between the things that Baker Mayfield
has said, Odell Beckham Jr. Not showing up for O. T. A.
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S When they trade for him, I mean even you know,
to the penalties, to some of the lack of execution.
Like I don't think the offensive line is the problem.
I think it's a symptom of the problem because what
John Dorsey has done is go after all the bright,
shiny objects and forget about the core of what makes
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a great football team, which is the interior lines offensive
and defense. If you can add skill position guys to
go with that, great great. But John Dorsey doesn't have
discipline in passing on guys because of their issues. Remember,
Dorsey's responsible for Tyreek Hill. Dorsey's responsible for um, what's
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his name? The running back who Kareem Hunt. Dorsey is
the guy who took him when he was in Kansas
City and then brought him over when Kansa City had
to get rid of him. Dorsey has always been a
talent guy as opposed to a character guy. And the
thing that talent guys usually lack is discipline. M hm,
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you don't. And if you go in and listen to
what their head coach said, Freddie Kitchens, he said, you know,
we lost our discipline. You don't lose your discipline the
first week of the season means he never had it.
I never had it. Can't lose the lead that you
never had. You can't lose money that you never had.
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You never never had it. You assumed you had it
because you got along with each other when there is
no adversity in practice. That's that's not justcipline. Discipline is
can you keep it together, keep your focus, keep your
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positive sense of self when everything else is going wrong.
That discipline. And so when Freddie Kitchens gets their very
first test, the very first test and the first from
Baker's three picks to oh b J wearing the watch
to the defense not being as good as they show,
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mean Derrick Henry was walking down Broadway, the coaching not
being good to the eight teen penalties. These are all symptoms.
And the problem is all the egos you've rewarded with
contracts who are brought in haven't been brought into a
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room that has been trained and disciplined, and so the
new guys have to kind of get in when they
fit in. Now, that's not the way of work in Cleveland.
The new guys have been empowered. The strongest voice is
that of a second year quarterback who hadn't started a
whole season. The general manager has a history of taking
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talented guys over character guys. The head coach has no
coaching experience. The schedule's rule of division is hard. And
oh yeah, by the way, your franchise hasn't been good
since it resurrected itself, since it was it came to
fruition after the previous Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore. It's
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like they walked around last year like they were a
super Bowl team and they finished below five with the
last place schedule. What are you doing here? So? I
don't think the watch is the worst thing on earth.
I just think it shows a poor amount of decision
making that it's about getting a watch deal it's about
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looking cool. Do you know it looks cool winning And
while we're at it, the NFL guys and I know
there's some guys last night wearing those wearing necklaces. Like,
let's just be honest. All that stuff is kind of dumb.
Just the idea that you're gonna wear a hundred thousand
dollars or a hundreds in jewelry while you're playing in
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NFL game. It makes some sort of statement about how
much money you have. That's a part of the culture.
I just can't get down with. I just don't understand.
I don't get you know, I've had a nice necklace before,
I've worn it. I've had other stuff that I've worn before.
But to me, it just it is. It is such
a look at me there whatever. However many seconds it
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takes you to figure out what piece of jeweler you're
gonna wear, to pack it in your right bag, to
put it on, and make sure that's only on but
not gonna be pulled off. You know, by bye would
be tackler. Whatever amount is spent on that necklace could
have been spent either relaxing, napping, or getting ready for
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a football game. It is a comp fleete and total
time waster as it is complete old time waster. And
when you have a complete total time waster, that's that important.
Um it's taking away however many seconds, however many minutes,
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or maybe even just how it looks, Right like the
idea that Obell Beckham Jr. Likes the watch but doesn't
have the discipline to leave the watch in the locker room.
Or he cares about how he looks. Of course he does.
He cares more about how he looks than how he plays.
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So last night one game went essentially as we sort
of predicted. I did think that the Saints would win.
I also thought that they would cover. They did not.
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My picks against the line we're both was oh in
two last night, But I thought that the Saints were
the better team. They were in fact the better team,
although they allowed the Texans to hang around. But the
big discussion I feel like today is over the Houston
Texans and their offensive line now obviously adjusting and putting
Laramie Tunsil in at such a late notice, at such
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a late moment in time is really really hard. Okay,
it's it's just it's hard, you know, in in short
order to make that sort of change, You're not going
to be seamless. I mean, we're asking a lot of
that group. On the other hand, and this is really
important as well, they weren't terrible and it's not all
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the offensive line's fault. It's just not Chris Sims is
going to join us. Upcoming in fifteen minutes, we'll talk
some quarterbacks with the former starting quarterback in the Nation
Football League. Deshaun Watson took six sacks last night, and
the common reaction has been, man, Texans, still gotta fix
that offensive line. You know, he's gonna turn into the
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next Andrew Luck and and in in fairness to Deshaun
Watson like this. This also, by the way, you may
not like my millennials tweet you may have been really
hot bothered. Joe Clapp was mad about it yesterday even
though we weren't even talking about He tried to bring
it back up. But like Deshaun Watson, he had a
collapse long. He want to play so bad he had
them drive him to Jacksonville last year. Like that's football guy. Stop.
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He's had two torn a c l s and Deshaun
Watson not walking away from this game. Maybe it's because
he did not grow up um as affluent as as
Andrew Luck did. But I just think he has a
more more of a football players mentut traditional football players mentality.
But this idea that well, they gotta still gotta fix
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the offensive line. They drafted ted As Howard in last
year's draft. Now he was inactive because he had a
broken finger. They just moved the moon the stars in
the sun to get Laramie Tunsil. They've had him for
over a week, so their offensive line is actually improving
and we'll get better and oh yeah, by the way,
they did average seven point eight two yards per carry,
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not necessarily the sign of a struggling offensive line. I
know some of that is he had a couple of
long scrambles, but but you know, at some point in
time we have to point out that I like Deshaun Watson.
Everyone I know likes Deshaun Watson, and we so badly
want Deshaun Watson to be a star that when something
goes wrong, we blame the line. We blame Bill O'Brien,
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We blame the late Bob McNair for saying the inmates
run the prison. We blame whoever are Lamar mill are
getting hurt. Have we ever thought to say, you know,
you know, Deshaun Watson holds on the ball a little
bit too long, right like that, there's a reason and
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Shaun Watson still scrambles that. There's a reason that Tom
Brady is able to play at forty two years old
because he gets he gets rid of that ball quickly.
Or Drew Brees. Now you can sit there and go like, well,
you know those teams they've built an offensive line. Hey,
the Patriots, they had to change centers twice over the
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last couple of weeks because of injury. They've worked through
new offensive lineman there. He's had bad years offensive line wise.
He did get hit and hurt once. Drew Brees hit
and hurt once, debilitating injuries Breezed the shoulder and uh
and Brady the knee. But the fact is that both
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have learned one the pocket is actually the safest place
on that field to have a football, and two gotta
get rid of it quickly. You just do. You gotta
get you gotta get rid of it quickly. And this
is why guys that process so quickly, Guys that our
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computers and passing games that allow you to get rid
of the ball quickly are becoming the norm, not the exception.
Ask anybody who plays against Tom Brady, like man, pass
first doesn't really matter. He gets he gets rid of
it so quick, and he gets rid of it so quick,
not just because he's hot pitating the ball, not just
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because the route combinations, but because he's he's seen so
many different looks. He knows what's coming, he knows what's open.
He knows exactly where he needs to go with the ball,
even if it's not. Doesn't mean you get it and
you throw it right away. They run some deep routes,
not a ton they do, but he he knows where
it's going as well before that ball is snapped, and
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he's able to get to that read in short order. Look,
that's what the Cardinals are trying to do, Kyler Murray,
right is how quickly can you and and it became
more and more effective as he started to process more.
It's the it's the Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfields not half
the athlete of Deshaun Watson. He didn't have the armor
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Deshaun Watson, and he wasn't great this weekend. But one
of the things that allowed him be number one pick
was he processes things so quickly so he can read it,
know where the ball is going, and get get it
out of his hands more quickly. So I'm not putting
all of the blame on Deshaun Watson. That would be unfair.
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I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback. That would be untrue.
I'm not saying you can't win with him. That has
proven to be untrue. But when you wake up and
you're like, man six more sacks. Here we go again,
Houston Texans offensive lines and issue the trader Laramy Tunsil,
Bill O'Brien. So can't figure it out. There's a he
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holds the ball a long time. Go look at the numbers.
According to Next Gen Stats, Deshaun Watson was tied for
eleventh in time to throw after taking a snap. That's
well above average. There's thirty two teams. He's not bottom
five of the league. He's top twelve of the league
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in in time he gets to throw. He gets plenty
of time. He just doesn't process a creek enough. It
doesn't get rid of it quick enough. Some of that's
the offense. Some of that's that he's taking time to
read it. Some of that it's it's his natural, you know,
make up early in his college career and in his
high school career was to tuck it and run it,
and so you have to, you know, remember to not
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put your eyes down. But some of that is just
he's got to get better about getting rid of the
football when in doubt, get it out. My my, my,
My late father had a belief and it went like
this with playing with foul trouble. He would teach guys
to play with foul trouble. And one of the things
he would say was like, look, if you had two
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fouls in the first half and a guy's got an
open lamp, give him the lamp. I don't try and
block the shot or take a charge. Be it like
do I want you to do those things absolutely, But
the fact is that the likelihood you get called for
a foul, and if you get that foul, I have
to take you out of the game. Like understand that
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we can't win without you, can't wit without you. And
so any potential if there's a chance of making a
defensive plate in the first half, let him go. Let
him go, because if you let them go, there's a
hundred percent chance you get to keep playing. People used
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to make fun that. It made fun of lots. They
made fun of Aaron Rodgers last year when he would
get rid of the football. You know, Aaron Rodgers didn't
do He did not turn the football over only two interceptions.
Don't take sacks, you can't get hurt. Don't don't you know,
force the ball into coverage. You can't throw interceptions. Now
we we we have this runt. We the bread Farve
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days of forcing something into coverage are gone. And the
Ben Roethlisberger days of holding on the football to make
it a play seem to be gone. To get it
and get rid of it. And if you you want
to point to the problems of the Houston Texans, they
have several, but maybe the biggest of them is that
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their greatest strength on offense, Deshaun Watson can be their
biggest weakness. He has to get rid of the football
more quickly. He has to process what he's seeing at
a more rapid pace, and if he does that well,
then he can live up to all the hype that
we think he deserves. None of this says he's a
bad guy or a bad quarterback, but it has to
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be a cognitive effort. They gotta be better blocking and
they should be with the addition of Laraymy Tunson when
they get fully healthy, and he's got to do a
better job to get rid of the football. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug Leap Show weekdays
at noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome and Chris Sims,
of course, played for Jon Gruden in Tampa. You see
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him on Football Night in America on Sunday Night. So
many things to get to, um, let's let's let's start
with the first game last night. How much of Deshaun
Watson getting sacked six times is the offensive line which
is still getting put together, and how much of it
is Hey, dude, you're you're holding the ball too long. Yeah,
I think, Uh, listen, there was definitely a handful of
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plays where it's the offensive line. Hey, it's flare me
tons all franchise left tackle still learning on the fly,
and we got some new pieces. Uh. But I mean,
you know, am I gonna put If I was gonna
blame it, I'd go like it's seventy thirty. I'd go
seventy on the offensive line, And like on Deshaun Watson
because he does hold onto the ball too long, and hey,
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this is a gift and the curse. You know he
holds the ball on too long. Why because gosh, a
lot of the time, like we saw last night, he
makes some freaking magic happen. Uh. So that's the real
that's the real thing. But the one thing I'll say
about them more than anything, Doug, it can't go on
like this. There's no way he can make it through
the season taking the kind of hits he took last night.
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He's got to do a better job of taking care
of his body when he does run. He's got to
do a better job of just throwing the ball away
in some situations when he feels like there is a
free runner about to hit him, and Bill O'Brien and
the Texans coaching staffs gotta do something to find him
a few easier completions throughout the game. I mean, all
the great ones. You saw Brady the other night gets
to throw a few screen passes and they do some
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trick plays. You gotta have some plays in there where
the quarterback doesn't have to dissect and do everything per
sect perfect. He can just go, Okay, I'm gonna throw
to this guy. Let's get some cheap yards and move on.
Every play is like the last play of the game
with the Shaun Watson and the Houston Texans, and I
just worry about him and his health for a whole season.
How much of the Raiders win over the Broncos was
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this kind of unifying force because Antoni O Brown wanted out?
And how much of it is Hey, a great game
plan and just an improving team. Yeah, it's a it's
an improving team. I do think that the circumstances of
Antonio Brown can unite a football team. You know, at first,
I'm sure they were all about, hey, we need to
get Antonio here. That's great, But I'm sure when it
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went into like Strike forty five or Antonio Brown. They
were like, Okay, enough is enough. I'm sick of this
damn guy. We can win without him. He's not God
for the football team. And I'm gonna give my ex
coach a lot of credit. I mean, John Gruden, I mean, yeah,
the offense look good. I heard what you were just saying,
staying saying about the third down conversions. They were patient
on first and second down. He was patient with the
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run game. He didn't get caught up in like, oh,
we're not gashing him in the run game. Let me
just dropped back the pass and keep throwing the ball.
You know, know, any good offense has to stay patient
with the run game, even though if it's not accumulating yards,
it's about the attempts. The attempts are almost just as
important as the yards because it opens up everything in
the past game. It keeps a deep sense, hon ut,
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it keeps a pass rush on us uh. And then
Noakland played really good last night. I gotta give Johnny
g a lot of credit. Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice of Chris Simms. Um,
you spent some time the coaching staff of New England Patriots.
And I know that the Patriots have consistently since Tom
Brady has been the quarterback done a great job against Pittsburgh,
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but that one felt different like this. It felt like
it wasn't just a schematic mismatch. It felt like a
bit of a talent mismatch. I walked away from Sunday
night thinking, I'm still stunned they made the Super Bowl
two years ago with that no playmaker defense, right, like
that was more impressive than if they make the Super
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Bowl this year, because I feel like their personnel is
really really good to go along with the coaching is
really good. Am I overselling how much they've improved that
overall roster. No, I don't think you're overselling it. I mean,
you know, you talk about the offensive line, it's one
of the best in football. It's one of the most
versatile front sevens in all of football all it's arguably
the best secondary in football. I mean, they can match
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up with any set of receivers in football. That's what's
amazing about them. You know, they just got guys for everything. Oh,
you got big receiver, Okay, we got j. C. Jackson.
He's a big corner or our second round pick Joe
Juwan Williams at a Vanderbilt. He can cover a big
side receiver to Oh you gotta you know, a jitterbug
type like slave receiver. Oh we got Jonathan Jones. That's great.
Oh you got like just an absolute baller receiver Juju
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Smith Schuster. Well we got Stefan Gilmour. He's a baller.
They're unreal the way they're coached. Uh yes, I mean
really that's the beauty in New England. I mean New
England was rebuilding in two thousand, eleven and twelve and
thirteen and they were still going to Super Bowls and
an f C Championship games. The roster is pretty stacked
right now. And you know a lot of people always
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talk about like, oh, you know, they've never had great
wide receivers around Brady One. I always want to go like,
yes they have. That's disrespectful to a lot of great
receivers they've had there too. I mean, everybody's always open,
so you don't need to always have great receivers because
they have a great ski. But now the scheme is
like you're saying, got great talent around it. I mean
with Josh Gordon, Julian Edelman, Antonio Brown, Philip dor set
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Sony Michelle, that offensive line and then really probably the
best offensive system in all of football. I wish I
could change my Super Bowl picks. I went crazy and
didn't put the Patriots in the Super Bowl this year.
Now I would like to definitely put them in there.
I mean, they're they're they're pretty pretty stout on both
sides of the ball, Doug, how fixable are the Steelers issues?
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The Steelers? I'm not giving up on the Steelers. I
still think their defense can be good now where they
had a one big issue as far as Sean Davis
not being in the lineup a safety that really hurt them.
I mean, there there's a reason. Uh, the kid Cameron
Kelly or I hope I'm getting his name right, Yeah,
Cameron Kelly. Here's a reason he was in the A
A F last year. You know there's a reason. And
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you saw that he got outmatched in a few deep
balls down the field where he had no business probably
being on the field in general. But the big thing
I got Doug for the Pittsburgh Steelers more than anything
is who's gonna be Robin Who's gonna be Batman's Robin
because other than Juju Smith Schuster, who was going to
be that next guy up in that offense that can
take some pressure off of Ben Roethlisberger and off the
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offense in general. When a team does have a shut
down corner like stuff now and Gilmore or does double
Juju Smith Schuster, you know, in key passing situations. I
think that is a million dollar question about that Steelers team,
and I certainly didn't get answered. On Sunday Night, Doug
Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the voice
of former Texas star, former Notre Dame former whatever you
(16:36):
want to say, no, sorry, sorry, and cover Notre Dame football.
Chris Sim's joining us from NBC Sports and UH Pro
Football Talk. Join us on the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, the Cleveland Browns have eighteen penalties.
Odell Beckham Jr. Is wearing a watch. Um. I don't
know if even of itself wearing watch maybe not that
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big an issue, but it is emblematic and symbolic, if
you will, of a team that lacks the type of
discipline that the big time teams seem to have. Right
like I'm not again, and I you know, you do
have to Seattle is a team that's been penalized because
they're super super physical, but that's not that's not the
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type of penalties they were getting. I feel like the
Freddie Kitchens thing, combined with the offensive line issues, combined
with some of the egos they have, like these are
all symptoms that were all fully on display in Week
one for the Browns. Am I making too big a
deal of the way in which they were beaten badly
at home? No? Well, I mean, listen, I got the
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same concerns you do. I get that. I think they're
all you know, you know, justified questions as far as
like things we still need to get answered in Cleveland. Uh,
I will say this, you know, the Tennessee Titans I
think are one of the very few teams in football
that can match up with that Cleveland Brown's offense in
a lot of ways that they're bill like New England,
a really versatile front seven, a great secondary, and then
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they got guys like Rabel and Dean p S who
come from New England and Baltimore who have a million
different coverages and things they can do in a game
plan to confuse a young quarterback like Baker Mayfield. I
watched the film in that game yesterday, Doug. Yeah, I
mean they threw out every coverage in the history of
football at Baker Mayfield. He was confused the time. He
certainly was off of his game. And you know, even
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saying all that, there they were momentum back on their side.
It's fifteen thirteen with three minutes to go in the
third quarter. They throw a screen pass to Derrick Henry
and the Red Sea parts and they run. He runs
for a seventy five yard touchdown. And the game was
never the same because then Baker Mayfield through three interceptions
in a row the next three drives that really put
it out of reach. But they do have to learn
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how to win. They are raw, they don't know how
to handle certain situations, and they were slopping in the game.
You talk about the penalties, Yeah, there was a few.
When I watched back the game, I went, oh, that's
a tough call. The you call in that situation on Cleveland,
But there were another a number of other ones, whether
it was holding, blocking in the back, some past interference
cause where I just go, it's not needed, it's sloppy,
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that's young, it's stupid. And this will be a big
game this week on Monday Night for them in the Jets.
I mean they go oh and too uh. You know,
we're gonna continue to criticize this crowd for sure. You
mentioned that he got he got confused. How much of
that because one of the things people have said about
Bakers always a football savant. I've pointed out second year
quarterbacks in the NFL, people make it out like they're
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so experienced. You know, he hadn't started a full season yet.
How much of that can you learn or how much
of that is just who you are at this point
in his career. Yeah, you know you can. You can
learn it. You can learn it. You know, he is
a football savant. But and still saying that, that doesn't
mean like your your point is real. I mean, just
because you're the second year in the NFL, he hasn't
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even started a full season yet, does not necessarily mean
he understands how to handle every situation that's thrown out
at him at this point, or exactly what to do
with the ball in certain coverages according to the down
and distance and that situation on the clock, and all
of those things that's gonna be you know, learning, learning
in progress. And you know what happens a lot of
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the times with like first the second year quarterbacks to
where sometimes we see them regress or do some stupid things. Well,
why they really regress or do stupid things because they've
been given more confidence by the coaching staff last year. Oh,
he's a rookie. Let's not run these plays, Let's do
the ones he likes. Let's keep it simple. Let's not
let our rookie quarterback, you know, lose the game for
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us and then lose his confidence. Of course, he had
some great things happened last year, and this year they
just opened the vault and they go, let's go, let's
let him do it all. Let's let him throw it everywhere.
Let's you know, let we we can trust him. And
you know, sometimes you lose sight of the fact that
even a guy like Baker Mayfield needs to be managed
to a degree. He hasn't been around the block seven
times like a Tom Brady or and Aaron Rodgers. And
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that showed in the game the other day. He just
was a little too loose with his decisions. He got
fooled a few times, a few balls just came awkwardly
out of his hand. That you don't see a whole
lot from Baker Mayfield. That's the voice of Chris Samas
joining us in the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio.
How much of the Ravens dominance over the Dolphins was
a scheme that fit Lamar Jackson and he played incredible.
(21:18):
How much of it is they're playing the JV team
in the NFL. Yeah, well it's it's yeah. I mean,
that's a good way to put it. Put it. The
Miami Dolphins are definitely the worst team in football. I
don't think there's any denying that. And you know, I
actually that's another film I just got done watching, Doug Um.
It was the perfect storm. I mean, we knew the
Ravens wanted to run the football. The Dolphins have no
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difference makers on their front seven. They have nobody that
you go, oh, we have to worry about this guy,
or game playing this guy, or double team this guy
in the run game. There's nothing there. The best player
on their team is Xavien Howard, their corner who they
just paid a ton of money too. So they're undermanned.
We know that where they made the biggest mistake when
I just watched back the film, that jumped out to
me more than anything is I think they overreacted to
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the first play of the game, which was a forty
nine yard run by mark Ingram where they just absolutely
bludgeoned the Dolphins defense. But from that point on, you know,
they had a free safety in the middle of the field,
and he didn't play free safety. If they did a
run fake, he was down there by the linebackers. And
that's why on some of those those players we saw
the Lamar Jackson, you know, hit the deep touchdowns, it
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looks like was there no safety in the middle of
the field. No, there was, But the safety must have
been coached like, hey, we want you to stand there
in the deep middle, but as soon as you see
any type of run action, we want you to aggressively
come up and support the run and make Lamar Jackson
beat us in the past game. And he did do that,
and for some reason, the Dolphins never really backed off
(22:41):
of that game plan. I mean, come on, I know,
we all gotta see Lamar Jackson, you know, uh, improve
on consistency throwing the football and all that. But after
the first two or three strikes he threw. I think
you'd go, Okay, this is the NFL and he's hot today.
I think we need to abort mission and change our
game plan of the defensive side of the ball and
maybe not be so aggressive with that free safety in
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the middle of the field. And they did not do that,
and the Ravens just kept laying it on him. Yeah,
I feel like, I mean I watched I know how
the Chargers prepared for him in the playoffs, and they
felt like his issues with accuracy were short and intermediate routes,
you know, and again zones and they were you know,
so many are you know, And and they added Hollywood
Brown who has just supreme speed take the top off
(23:25):
a defense. So some of it is the adjustment in
Baltimore's personnel and and their game plan, but a lot
of it is in like, why are you playing man
and making him He actually has a very good arm
throwing the ball deep. It's the it's the accuracy stuff
which is given him issue. Definitely, Doug that it's a
great point. I mean, this goes on, you know with
a young quarterback or you're not sure about his accuracy
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and his you know, consistency and decision making. You don't
want to play man to man. You want to make
him read a defense this guy's zone and play playing
man demand's get out of jail free car For a
young quarterback, he doesn't have to think anything. Oh he
just goes. Oh I like that matchup. Let me throw
him a good ball. Oh he's opened one on one. Oh,
nobody's open. Let me just throw a jump ball or
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back shoulder. That's really what it is. So I'm with
you a little bit like Mitchell Drabinski with the Chicago
Bears and what we saw from the Green Bay Packers,
Like I would play confusing zones until he proves to
me you can pick apart the zone, and then we'll
change it up. But those guys, those type of quarteractions
they want man demand because then they don't have to
think and they don't have to be as accurate with
their throws. It's a great point by you. Um, you
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were there for the Green Bay game. How different is
that offense? Like give me give me your now you've
seen it. You've seen Aaron Rodgers and granted it's gainst
a very very good defense with what would that look
like against the Dolphins. I don't know, um, but as
a former NFL quarterback and the guy who's worked with
the Patriots and now you break down tape four Living
Packers offense two thousand nineteen, is it definitively going to
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be better for Aaron Rodgers in the end? I think
in the end it will be. I think it's going
to continue to be a little bit of a work
in progress. And I think as we all sit there
and watch TV and watch it for now, we're gonna
all go, well, this is underwhelming. You know, this isn't
so special because it's almost gonna go back old school
a little bit. They're gonna get an eye formation, they're
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gonna run downhill, they're gonna pull guards, they're gonna trap
people inside. They're gonna run inside and outside zone. So
it might not be a sexy with Roger sitting back
there in the shotgun directing traffic all the time, even
though there's gonna be plenty of that because they're gonna
he's got free reign. He can do whatever he wants.
But there is gonna be an attention to detail in
the run game like he hasn't had since he's been there.
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And that's where Matt Lafleur, Nathaniel Hackett the offensive coordinator.
You know the McVeigh Shanahan system that Lafour comes from.
Of course they believe in that. I think the big
difference you'll see and continue to see is going to
be the play action pass game. I think that's where
we're gonna see Aaron Rodgers air it out more this
year as the season goes a little bit. Like you
saw in that play action pass fake verse bomb down
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the middle that changed the field position on that one
touchdown drive, I think you'll continue to see plays dialed
up like that. They're gonna run the ball, take shots,
let Aaron Rodgers audible when he needs to, and they're
gonna play defense. That's the thing that jumped out to
me more than anything Doug being there in person. The
two Smiths, Darius and Preston Smith change the look of
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their defense along with Darnell Savage and Rashawn Gary. They
just got versatility and size and speed and it's a
very impressive defense in Green Bay. Like I would be
shocked if it's not in top ten, Top five conversation
when it's all said and done. Awesome, awesome stuff from
Chris Simms. You can watch him on NBC's coverage of
Notre Dame football. You can watch him on Football Night
(26:44):
in America of course Pro Football Talk as well. That
means next Sunday Night Eagles Falcons on NBC. Awesome stuff,
Chris Simms. Chris thinks, so much for joining us. You're
the man, Doug. I'll talk to you soon, dude. Be
sure to catch live editions. So the Doug Got Leaps
Show week days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. Odell
Beckham Jr. Said he wants it to be about football,
(27:05):
not the watch. Says if anyone else UH would have
worn it wouldn't have been an issue. If watch not
an issue, plans to wear it again. Oh boy, that's
quite literally doing the opposite of what you're saying. All right,
(27:29):
I don't want to make it about the watch. I
don't want to make it about the watch. So what
do you do? You keep wearing the watch. I want
to only make it about football, But I'm gonna keep
wearing the watch, which is not figuratively literally against the rules,
(27:55):
literally against the rules, that's what it is. So I this,
this whole exercise is fascinating to me. Um sometimes we
identify problems, right. Offensive line issues are problems, penalties are problems.
(28:16):
Odell Beckham jrs um watches a problem. But I actually
don't think Odell Beckham JRS watches the problem. I don't
think the penalties are the problem. I actually think that
these are just symptoms of the bigger problem, just symptoms
of the bigger problem, and the symptoms continue to add up.
(28:42):
And the problem, if we dig deep down, is a
basic lack of discipline. And football is the ultimate team game,
but it's the ultimate discipline game as well. It just
is because nothing works unless all eleven on the field
are working together other right, Like, there's there's video out
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there of the Raiders offensive line getting destroyed last night
on a couple of plays, but it all worked together
because you have some blitz pick up and oh yeah,
by the way, you have a scheme where they were
getting rid of football quicker than anybody else in the league.
Just get it and get rid of it and get
it out the guys in space, because if you try
and hold on to it against Chubb and von Miller,
(29:28):
you're You're dead. They're dead. When people say football is
the ultimate team game, they mean football is the ultimate
discipline game. There's a reason that when you start football
practicing your little kid, you say yes or and no
sir to your coach. Why they take the decals off
your helmet and by some people's estimation to humanize you
(29:48):
just put your last name on a sticker on a helmet.
There's there's a certain amount of discipline that is needed,
that is needed, and between the things that Baker Mayfield
has said, Odell Beckham Jr. Not showing up for O. T. A.
(30:10):
S When they trade for him, I mean even you know,
to the penalties, to some of the lack of execution.
Like I don't think the offensive line is the problem.
I think it's a symptom of the problem because what
John Dorsey has done is go after all the bright,
shiny objects and forget about the core of what makes
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a great football team, which is the interior lines offensive
and defense. If you can add skill position guys to
go with that, great great. But John Dorsey doesn't have
discipline in passing on guys because of their issues. Remember,
Dorsey's responsible for Tyreek Hill. Dorsey's responsible for um, what's
(30:56):
his name? The running back who Kareem Hunt. Dorsey is
the guy who took him when he was in Kansas
City and then brought him over when Kansa City had
to get rid of him. Dorsey has always been a
talent guy as opposed to a character guy. And the
thing that talent guys usually lack is discipline. M hm,
(31:19):
you don't. And if you go in and listen to
what their head coach said, Freddie Kitchens, he said, you know,
we lost our discipline. You don't lose your discipline the
first week of the season means he never had it.
I never had it. Can't lose the lead that you
never had. You can't lose money that you never had.
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You never never had it. You assumed you had it
because you got along with each other when there is
no adversity in practice. That's that's not justcipline. Discipline is
can you keep it together, keep your focus, keep your
(32:04):
positive sense of self when everything else is going wrong.
That discipline. And so when Freddie Kitchens gets their very
first test, the very first test and the first from
Baker's three picks to oh b J wearing the watch
to the defense not being as good as they show,
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mean Derrick Henry was walking down Broadway, the coaching not
being good to the eight teen penalties. These are all symptoms.
And the problem is all the egos you've rewarded with
contracts who are brought in haven't been brought into a
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room that has been trained and disciplined, and so the
new guys have to kind of get in when they
fit in. Now, that's not the way of work in Cleveland.
The new guys have been empowered. The strongest voice is
that of a second year quarterback who hadn't started a
whole season. The general manager has a history of taking
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talented guys over character guys. The head coach has no
coaching experience. The schedule's rule of division is hard. And
oh yeah, by the way, your franchise hasn't been good
since it resurrected itself, since it was it came to
fruition after the previous Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore. It's
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like they walked around last year like they were a
super Bowl team and they finished below five with the
last place schedule. What are you doing here? So? I
don't think the watch is the worst thing on earth.
I just think it shows a poor amount of decision
making that it's about getting a watch deal it's about
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looking cool. Do you know it looks cool winning And
while we're at it, the NFL guys and I know
there's some guys last night wearing those wearing necklaces. Like,
let's just be honest. All that stuff is kind of dumb.
Just the idea that you're gonna wear a hundred thousand
dollars or a hundreds in jewelry while you're playing in
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NFL game. It makes some sort of statement about how
much money you have. That's a part of the culture.
I just can't get down with. I just don't understand.
I don't get you know, I've had a nice necklace before,
I've worn it. I've had other stuff that I've worn before.
But to me, it just it is. It is such
a look at me there whatever. However many seconds it
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takes you to figure out what piece of jeweler you're
gonna wear, to pack it in your right bag, to
put it on, and make sure that's only on but
not gonna be pulled off. You know, by bye would
be tackler. Whatever amount is spent on that necklace could
have been spent either relaxing, napping, or getting ready for
(34:57):
a football game. It is a comp fleete and total
time waster as it is complete old time waster. And
when you have a complete total time waster, that's that important.
Um it's taking away however many seconds, however many minutes,
(35:21):
or maybe even just how it looks, Right like the
idea that Obell Beckham Jr. Likes the watch but doesn't
have the discipline to leave the watch in the locker room.
Or he cares about how he looks. Of course he does.
He cares more about how he looks than how he plays.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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