September 11, 2019 • 40 mins
Doug gives the latest details on the allegations made against Antonio Brown and what that shows you about the Steelers and Patriots. He also discusses Ben Roethlisberger and the valuable lesson he learned from some past mistakes. Plus, Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network joins the show to tell Doug what he saw from Lamar Jackson in week 1 of the season.
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I'm kidding sort of right anyway. Uh, this is the
Doug Golap Show on Fox Sports Radio, where every day
we cover Antonio Brown. Hell was that? Do you guys
see something fall there? What was that? Let me just
fell in the studio? I'm really sure. Oh is the
decal on the side of the wall. Yeah, now we're
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Fox Sports Adio. That's adio, well constructed, all American construction,
that's what it is. We Yeah, exactly, zero day Did
you guys like my tweet earlier today? Zero days without
an Antonio Brown incident? Oh? Yeah, yeah? And look at
the deal with Antonio Brown is simple and complex all
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at the same time. It's complex because there's parts of
the story which when you dig in, like, wait, something
happened three different times, which meant three different times the
same woman was working out Antonio Brown. One would think
that the first time there's an incident, that would that
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would be that, or the second time there's an incident
that would be that. There's the why wasn't? Why it
wasn't there's a police investigation. Why is this a civil suit?
There's also the text message that was apparently sent to
this woman, which uh, though graphic and by some needs
to be translated, it doesn't necessarily indict Antonio Brown. All
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of that said, and like the timing of it, it
just it feels weird. Okay. I can't say definitively what
I know or what I believe, but what I do
know and what I do believe is we just can't
go another debt. We we go another day, Antonio around,
another thing to talk about, right, like we we did
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this the same guy we had furniture thrown out of
an apartment in Miami going back to last year that
nearly hit a kid. This is the guy who had
the Facebook in the locker room live right. This is
the guy who had multiple incidents with Ben Roethlisberger, including
the Week seventeen one which caused him to walk from
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the team. This is the guy who you know, forced
his way to being tripped but didn't want to go
to Buffalo, goes to Oakland, gets the money, you know,
buddies up with the quarterback, then has the helmet issue,
then the foot issue, then the helmet issue. I mean,
it's just always, like literally always something. And now you
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get to the Patriots, which, as I pointed out yesterday,
it could reinvigorate his career, could make him a Hall
of Famer, because as of right now, I do not
believe he's a Hall of Famer, no matter how good
he's been. And I could make the argument there are
years which he's been the best wide receiver in the game.
They're not putting him in the Hall of Fame if
he doesn't play football anymore. It's not happening. Um, And
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you're like, you don't know what you're talking about. Yes,
I do, Yes, I do. T O this is there.
There's a lot of t O to it. But remember
t O did it for a lot longer, and frankly
was more successful and had that one quote unquote heroic
game to take you know, for the Eagles in the
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Super Bowl. An Tonio Brown doesn't have that. And this
is just such a mess. And while wide receivers have
always been hard to get into the Hall of Fame,
remember like, he'll play somewhere. I mean, but if it
ends at the end of this year, at the end
of next year, in the five years between now and
when he'd be in the Hall of Fame, there's other
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wide receivers that will come up, and they don't have
all of this stuff, all of this stuff. This is
feeling more like Chad Johnson, Right, that's what that with
Chad Johnson couldn't fit in with the Patriots, goes to
Miami Dolphins, has a domestic domestic assault incident and never
heard from again. Who, by the way, is the childhood
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hero grew up in the same area as Antonio Brown.
Like it's bad enough that there's the Oakland mess. Then
Bill Belichick has to answer this question today at the
press conference on Antonio situation. Both Antonio and is a
representatives of date statens and so I'm not gonna be
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expanding on any of those. They are what they are.
We've looked into the situation. We're taking it very seriously.
I'm not gonna be entering a discussion about that today.
You can to us all what Antonio Brown has said
it to you. I mean, I'm done with that. Okay,
do you explain what you mean when you're done with it.
I mean, we're just trying to find out if he
said anything teaching about this position about the allegation. Yeah,
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I just answered that question. Well, actually you do. I'm
gonna give Belichick the benefit of the doubt here. This
is not necessarily his fight, right, he said, both they
put out a statement and he's not going to comment
on it. Like I I get your reporter, you feel
like it's your job. But he did say, hey, I'm
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not going to talk about it. I refer you to Basically,
he was talking Aboutdrew Rosenhaus, who went on TV plus
released a statement earlier today. But but but the idea,
it's one thing. It's one thing to say the Patriots new,
but there's no way the Patriots knew. They would not
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have traded to Marius Thomas for a six round pick
if they knew. And there in lies the biggest issue.
This is a true story. But tell you that I'm
not sure I've I think I've told I don't know
if air on air. Sometimes it gets confusing by now, Uh,
it's become internet fodder and fun to point out that.
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I mean years ago, was it twenty three years ago?
I got in trouble at Notre Dame UM seven years ago? Yes,
seven years ago, seven seven, a little more than seven
years ago. I left the ESPN to go to CBS,
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and in July I kind of agreed to the deal.
But the way it the way they wanted everybody wanted
to work. It was weren't gonna announced until I don't
know it was August or something like that. Anyway, So
it was the night before the day before they were
going to make the announcement, CBS was and I was
on the phone with um Sean McManus is the head
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of CBS, he's the president of CBS at the time,
and UM with David Burson, who is the vice president
of the president of CBS Sports. And they were the
two men who recruited me to go there, as well
as the radio department, which was was not launching until January.
And they were they could not be nicer, they could
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not be more buttoned up, and they just want to
know how excited they were, and this was gonna happen,
and you know, your phone's gonna blow up and please
run everything through Jenn Sabotel and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah. And I said, well that's great. I said, um, hey,
do you guys want to like, do you how how
how do you want to address the Notre Dame thing?
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And they were like what what what Notre Dame thing?
I was like, well, you know, I left Notre Dame
and all that stuff, like we didn't what are you
talking about? And so I like, well, look, this is
what happened. Was a freshman in college and this is
what I did, and this is what this is what happened.
This is what happened. So they were like, we'll have
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to get back to you, okay. They had literally had
no idea because they're like, well, he must have been
entity was it the ESPN for ten years? Right? So
I look at it as like, that's the full disclosure.
Is the only way to start into into a business relationship. Hey,
just so you know, because that's what reporters do, that's
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what media does, that's what fans definitely do. It doesn't
mean it actually affects my ability to keep my job,
but I just wanted them to supply them with the
knowledge that this could come up, because that's for whatever reason,
occasionally there's been an article written, uh, he did this.
He works at Fox, he used to work at CBS,
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and before that, ESPN played Oakum State before that, three
years ago, he got in trouble, right, which I don't
necessarily understand the correlation to now, but I wanted them
to know call me back an hour later, they're like, oh,
we knew all about all that. We just wanted to
make sure there was no new information anything else we
should know. I was like, now, I just wanted you
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to know, hey man, that that was really awesome that
you told us. That's what they told me. I wasn't
sharing anything. I didn't think they already knew, but that
was how I So when I when you look at
Antonio Brown, I don't think they're pissed about I mean,
I don't think they're happy about answering questions about it,
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but I'm sure they're really not happy that they weren't
informed this was a possibility. Do you understand? You know,
it's like you're sitting down to apply for a loan
and you you try and gloss over, like, hey, look,
last seven years have been fine, my credit score is good.
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Just once you know, declared bankruptcy. Going back to you know,
two thousand four, went through a tough time, went through
a divorce. So I the Antonio Brown thing is, I mean,
what what I personal train wreck he appears to be
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and what an amazing job. I continue to believe that
what people said about Mike Tomlin being a player's coach
and and and bowing down to Antonio Brown and letting
him get away with too many things to ultimately like
I don't see that at all. I see it as
the Pittsburgh Deals did a great job of getting the
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most they could out of a guy who you know,
kind of was a train wreck off the football field,
and they they kept him in line the best they
could until ultimately they had to get rid of them.
And the big mistake, whether it's Antonio Brown or maybe
I'm or anything, Drew Rosen now says, you don't disclose.
This not the way to begin a relationship with the Patriots,
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and it continues to trend towards the possibility they didn't
play football anymore because the Patriots have taken flyers on guys,
but the ones that haven't worked, it's not like they've
gone elsewhere and killed it. And Drew rosenhou's putting out
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fires now like I got this, don't worry. I mean,
so you mean to believe that part of the plan
was one million dollars less and guarantees this season and
this story coming out on the day in which he's
officially signed by the Patriots. I don't see that be
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sure to catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leap
Show weekdays in noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Remember when
Ben Roethlisberger used to be like, I kinda want to
hear what he's gonna say after the game, because he
might call out his wide receiver, might call out his coach,
He'll point out his own flaws. But he's an honest salesman.
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Here's what's going on, Well, anything happened Ben Roethlisberger is
He's been a married guy for a while, but now
he's talking like a married guy. Right, Like married guys
when the wife's around, eyes around, you don't want to
say the wrong thing. That burger they gets smacked thirty
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three to three? Was it play calling? Was it the line?
Was it the running game? Do you miss Lavyan? Do
you miss Antonio? Was the wide receivers? Here's Ben Roethlisberger.
They've been the best team of football for a while. Now.
I think everyone's kind of trying to chase them. So
we weren't good enough and we got to get better.
Where do you get better? When I'm only going to
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fold us on the quarterback and play because that's what
I control. So the quarterback's gotta get better. No, it's
it's it's not like all of a sudden, we have
to go back to the drawing board and start, you know,
doing this, just you know, scratching everything, cross anything out.
Where do we go from here? It's just we all
need to start with myself play play better. And it's
not there's nothing drastic on anybody's play. It's just little
things here, that of things there. I mean, look, that's
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that's that's gonna classified as you know what I'm talking about.
Do all of a sudden he's neutered and he's squatting
to go. That's that's what it feels like like, Big Ben.
Do we remember when Todd Hilly was his offensive coordinator.
He's the crush Todd Hailey, Crush him, crush him. Now
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he's like nothing, I'm play calling nothing on the offensive line. Nothing.
All I can focus on is quarterback. It's as like
kind of focus in the quarterback and my play and
just little we don't want to go to the drawing boards.
Wasn't game planning, wasn't coaching. We just gotta do those
little things, like dude, you guys got your asses whooped.
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The Patriots haven't been the best team in football for
like they know, they weren't an other best defense. They
had the best offense last year. Now they maybe this year,
and they may have improved that personnel to match up
with their coaching, and they're prepared, and they're at home,
and Brady always kicks the hell out of Pittsburgh's defense.
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Albeit this year mayn Latin previous year's zone doesn't really matter.
He's done it all. But what what what did we
do to Ben Roethlisberger. He used to have the most
machismo of any of these guys, and he had the
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support of his general Remember what the general manager said
in the off season, all right, we got fifty two
kids and one adult. That's Ben Roethisburg. Because he's he's
the only one is won super Bowl. He's one two.
Ben Rosber was like, man, I want no part of
people thinking I'm a bad teammate, Like I'm winning this thing.
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The Antoni Brown looks like a crazy person. Levan Bell
lost fourteen million dollars. I want no part of any
sort of controversy, nontroversy, anything, zero. Right, they went, here's
the expectation of Steelers. They went nine six in one
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one and the result it felt like a dumpster fire
for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Brown's gon one trade pron l
Beckham Jr. Get me to one of the offensive lineman, higher,
completely unproven head coach, and they're talking about the Super
Bowl seven eight one. They're ready to throw a parade
in Cleveland. But man, Ben Roethlisberger, Alright, he's like the
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guy who all of a sudden he got scared by
going to HR And he used to tell the bi
Ben's got the best dirty jokes. Man, It's got the
best dirty jokes. And all of sudden you go to Ben.
You like, Ben, give me some filthy, give me some dirty.
H He's like, uh knock knock, who's there? Uh awl
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al who? Why do you? Who like an owl? Like Ben?
What what happened? I want to hear a dirty joke? Sure,
horse fell in the mud. I want to hear cleanland
somebody washed him off? Like Ben? What happened? What dude?
What happened to Ben Roethlisberger? And I just you know,
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I just gotta I only focused on the quarterback play.
That's it. When I watched tape. I only focus on
things that I can change. Is the quarterback play. No,
not nothing drastic, just you know, a little thing here,
a little thing there. Be sure to catch live editions,
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NFL Network. For the Chargers, Moved the Sticks is the podcast. Um,
somehow running backs have people convinced that they they are
the ones that are the odd man out in the
new collective Bardner Agreement of this old collective Bartner Agreement,
the Rookie Wade Scale. What's your take on it? Well,
I would listen to you. You brought up an acute
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point if you're if you're underwhelming at the position, you're
gonna make money you don't deserve. Um, I get that,
but I mean, really, if you're gonna take a running
back in the first round, I thought the penny pick
was a reach. For the most part, the hit rate
recently has been pretty high. No. Four net has been
a little bit disappointing, but there's been Um, a lot
of those guys have been impact players and if you
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you know, look at the nine million number. That's a
good number, but it's not the best number they could get. Um,
So I get where the where the top end guys,
the handful of them can be frustrated just because of
the you know the fact that it's five years and
you have a shelf life of traditionally and probably what
the years for the elite elite guys. Um, So I
understand where they're coming from. They all have a shelf
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life of that. Like all these guys have this to
have a short shelf life. That's the that's that's the sport.
That position is different. I mean, you mean, at least
the smart most of smart teams that I talked to
on a daily basis, Um, they're not into and they're
not wanting to spend a lot of money to invest
in twenty seven year old running backs, whereas they're they're
they're gonna break the bank to invest in twenty seven
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year old offensive lineman. Danna Jeremiah Jinius and the Doug
Allie Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, was Lamar Jackson
that good or the Dolphins that bad? Yes? It was
it was a combination. Look, the thing that encouraged me
about Lamar is he made the laps, he missed layoffs.
Last year, he had guys open and in the clear,
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and he missed some throws, especially to the out tide um.
So this this in this game, the Dolphins played a
lot of zero coverage, a lot of man to man
and uh busted a couple of times and he was
able to capitalize on it. So I thought it's a
step forward for him, no question. But that is a
that is a bad, bad, bad, bad defense that he
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won againt with the Miami Dolphins a bad team overall.
So I don't know you make any any big time
conclusions off off one week other than the fact that
I think he's he threw the ball better than he
did last year. That's not something you can argue, yes,
But I would also point out why are they playing
a man and man and why was the safety down
so low? Like I thought, the Chargers did a great
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job of showing how to play him and that's you know,
a lot of zone and they played a bunch of
man to man and got beat by Hollywood Brown and
some of the Burners and they got no pressure on him. Well,
and the other thing is it's not like they stopped
the run either there. I think that I think they
gave up like two sixty rushing yards. So I mean
that's a bad unit. It's a bad, bad defense, alright.
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Same question for the Cowboys. Is the play calling that
much better? Is Dak Prescott that much better? Or the
Giants at bad? Well, I think it's again it's it's
not to say one or the other. I think the
Giants are are underwhelming defensively, um, But I do think
Dak watching that tape, um, I thought he looked comfortable.
I thought his eyes were in the right place. In
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other words, when they shifted late, when they dropped the
safety down, he was able to find one on ones
that he liked. UM. A lot of stuff they did,
you know, off play action, got a lot of tension.
He did well there. But I just thought overall awareness
that he showed. I mean, you can see he's kind
of you know, he's at the point now where he's
he's been a national football league for a while now,
and uh, he's a smart He's a smart dude. And
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I think he started to slow things down a little bit.
And I do think that is a good sign, um,
you know, for him and the Cowboys. Now the interesting
thing is gonna be Jerry Jones is not gonna uh,
I mean, he's gonna pay. He's gonna pay premium. And
if they do, I thought they would do a contract
this week because that would have been a total Cowboys
thing to do. When the player has the absolute most leverage,
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then you do the contract. That that's the That's an
interesting way to do it, but that's kind of been there. Uh,
their way of doing things. The Patriots looked outstanding. You know,
in the past, they've had to they've had to coach
them up, right, they've had to figure it out over
the first couple of weeks and then kind of coach
them up. Now they're coached up and it feels like
you have really good talent. How did this happen? Well,
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I mean they're they've they're defensively are so good and
don't get discussed on that side of the ball. I
thought that was the big takeaway there. The way they tackled,
which is unusual this early in the preseason in the
regular season, um, to be tackling as well as they
tackled was impressive. And then I just think the advantage offensively,
um of having the relationship there with coordinator and quarterback
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where they're so comfortable and confident and how to attack
a defense. I thought they would come out and try
and run it a bunch and and being heavy personnel,
and here they come out and spread it out and
chuck it. So. Um, that's their that's their unique ability
to morph into anything they want to do on a
week to week basis. Do they need Antonio Brown? No? No,
I don't. That's why I don't understand that. People say,
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what what can you do there? I'm like, okay, what,
that's one side the discussion. They can win the Super
Bowl without him. They don't need him. Uh, And why
would you want to deal with all this other stuff
you gotta deal with? That one? To me, I don't get.
I mean, it's uh. To me, it's it's unnecessary. What
do you think the NFL does? I don't know. You know,
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when you get into the legal side of the things,
that gets out of my pay grade and in terms
of how you deal with that, I just I know
the NFL, it sounds like they're looking into this now.
So I just I just look at it from the
team side of things, and just I mean, I just
don't understand, and I don't get it. Why would you
sign up for that? And it doesn't make any sense? Um? Okay,
news at a Charger camp days, Hunter Henry out four
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to six with the fracture and his knee. You saw
that hit. He come across the middle, got hit in
that same surgery group pair of knee. So now now
no no Derwin James, no Hunter Henry. Um. You also
you don't have your starting left tackle, and and Eckler
was great, but I'm sure they'd love to have Melvin Gordon.
Like this is an unbelievable roster when healthy. What are
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the Chargers like without Hunter Henry? Well, it's that hurts.
The good news is is that a guy I name
not many people are familiar with that, Sean Colkin is
uh is actually a pretty talented kid who's at a
phenomenal camp in a phenomenal preseason. So you still got
Virgil Green, who's one of the better blocking tight ends.
And I think Colkin is a little bit better than
people think. So you know, to me, the biggest two
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injuries that are the biggest two gaps on this team
right now, it's not from Melvin Gordon. It's not gonna
be from from Hunter Henry. It's it's what the left
tackle first and foremost. When they helped him out, when
they helped out Trent Scott, they were able to get
some big plays down the field. When they soloed him up,
there was a lot of pressure. So that to me
is still something that's needs to be worked around until
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Russell con could come back and then Derwin. You know,
that was the other one. Just with the mistackles, you
saw the safety position that you just never saw from him. Um,
those are the two that that you got to try
and work around and the running backs will be just fine. Yeah,
I kind of I kind of agree. I think that's
um and but they's they want to know and they're
not usually you not usually want to know. What about
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the Colts having seen them in person, what's your prognostication
on what they'll look like this year? I think the
way that they're built, Doug, that they're gonna be in
every single game and it's just gonna come down to
can they win close football games? Because, uh, defensively that
some I would say is greater than their individual parts.
They play hard, They're not gonna give up. You know,
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They're not gonna have a bunch of forty point games
that they're gonna allow. They'll keep them in games. And
then offensively, they're built and just match people up front,
so that shortens the game. It's a physical way to play.
Um to me that the formula that they have right
now is kind of a nine and seven and in
six type formula. I don't know the upside is anywhere
near where it would be with Andrew luck. Um, but
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they're gonna be in every game. You can't have your
field goal kicker, you're Hall of Fame field goal kicker
miss kicks. If he wasn't that one, if he wasn't
out of Mintaria, he'd be out of a a job today,
wouldn't he. Well, yeah, that would mean he's just got
such a long historical track record that he'll get some grace.
But yeah, that that, you know, really a good point.
That one player kind of cost him that game. So, um, yeah,
they're they're different. I did not buy into the narrative.
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I think we had talked about it, uh, Jacobrey present
is that there was to be being a starting caliber quarterback,
which he is, versus being a you know, a superstar,
which is what Andrew luck was there's a tremendous drop
off there. Dana Jeremiah joining us in the Doug Olip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, Raiders look good.
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They did a great job of just getting rid of
the football super super quickly. How much of that, though,
was just you know, game planning an emotion, and how
much of it is they really are a much better
football team. I thought it was a brilliant game plan
by John Bruten. Um. I thought that the like you
just said, getting the ball out of your hand. I
thought they did a nice job of allowing Derek Carr
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to get into a rhythm and then picking your spots
where you took some shot plays with Tyrone Williams. That
was a brilliant I was one of the best game
plans of the over the entire week. UM. So I
give John Gruden a lot of credit for that. Now, Um,
Derek Derreck played as well as as I've seen him play. Um,
I want to see that a couple more weeks before
I'm willing to say this is the norm here. Um
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that the man it was. It was a good start
for them. Unfortunately, pull up their schedule and look at
their next five games. It is brutal. How big are
the issues for the Cleveland Browns immaturity, lack of discipline.
I mean, those are the things that were real, and
I thought they were real in training camp when you
hear about them in the Colts, you know, scrimmaging and
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the Browns borderline bragging on the fact they got in
all those fights with them, I thought was silly. Um,
it was an undisciplined football team and uh, they need
to uh, they need to help out their tackles. We're
talking about the Chargers, and you know, when they can
help out their left tackle, they were able to create
some some chunk plays. I didn't think the Browns did
enough of that in that game. They've got to help
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those guys out there. Just not very good at those spots.
Day Jeremiah joining us Doug gotlip show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, it's it's interesting to me on how
the Texans have seemingly done all of these things to
protect to Shaun Watson, yet he sacked six times at
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some point. Isn't it on him to get rid of
the football more quickly? There was a couple that we're
on him. I mean, really, it's not even just getting
rid of the ball. It's the depth of your drop.
You know, there's the one where Tons. You know, people
were kind of banging on tonso for giving up a sack,
but he's I think you was set at eleven or
twelve yards, so, um, he had room to climb up.
He's got to be a little more aware of that
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and climb up in the pocket. But there were some
other ones where you had some clean beach. The frustrating
thing for me is when you spend a first round
pick on an offensive lineman and you come around and
I believe Sharpening was a third round pick, and you
have a bad offensive line. Don't trot out the old
veterans that we know can't play. Getting the young guys
out there, let them grow and learn, and they're just
more talented football players. Um. So that that that was
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frustrating to watch some some of their older veterans that
you know can't play, still trotting out there. I think
if they get those two rookies up to speed and
get him out there with a center and Martin who's
not bad, and Tons, so I think the premier left tackle,
I think you'll see a much better group. Yeah. That
that's that sounds like it makes a ton of sense. Um.
Cardinals had no offense for three quarters and then all
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of a sudden seemed to put some things together. Part
of it was Detroit. Again. It's only one game in
and you you do think Kyler will improve, but he
missed on twenty five passes, early returns on the air,
raid offense and Kyler Murray or what. Well, I'll say this, um,
the positives were. I thought he's settled it and got
(29:42):
comfortable late. They want a lot of empty um. He
got the ball out of you. I mean he made some.
There was a handful of throws. There were big time throws.
I mean he's got he's got a huge arm um.
The the the challenge for them, in my opinion, Doug,
is that offense works. It's an elite offense when you
have obviously you use the quarterback, but when you have
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really good offensive line play and you have really good receivers,
that's an elite version of that offense. When you have
one or the other, you can be really good. I
don't think the Cardinals have either. I don't think to
have anybody that's really scares you at the wide receiver position.
I don't think they're good up front, So that's gonna
be their challenge when you go so much three buy
one formation that offense is built where that singled up
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receiver you've got one on one and you just try
and wear out that corner. They don't have a guy
to do that. Um, So it's gonna be you know,
I think you'll see you'll see some splash plays, but
it's gonna be very difficult for them to be consistent.
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might be the hardest work I've ever done. And I
will just tell you, like it makes you feel good
about your body. There's yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing
what it does to everyone's body in the class with
probably my Will. Let's joins us Kicker from the New
Orleans Saints. You're big poloates guy, right, Will? Hey, what's
(31:33):
up guys? You're a big ploates guy. Right. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's a big part of my routine. Um okay, But
but did you initially go to pilates because it helps
your body or because of the scenery? Uh? Um? I
think it helps my body a lot. I like to
to build my flexibility through strength, and uh that was
(31:54):
the reason I got into it. It's pretty amazing how
hard it is, isn't it? Like I've i've and I'm
in good like I'm in good shape, not questional athlete
like you, and then you go do a plants class like,
oh my god, I think I'm gonna die. I mean
I can treat some of those classes of the full workout. Um,
It's it can be pretty brutal sometimes, but I just
think it's it's crucial though to my routine and I'm
(32:15):
just gonna keep doing it. Yeah. But Will, that's joining
us in the Doug Gottlive Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
what what was the energy like on Monday night in
the Dome? It was incredible. Um. You know, we have
a very, in my opinion, the best man base in
the NFL at our our game day experiences different. Um.
It truly felt like a playoff atmosphere in there and
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we're only one game in. How do you how does
that affect you? Right? Because you know, like quarterbacks like Drew,
you gotta contain your energy not overthrow people, right when
when you're on defense, you gotta like over can't over pursue,
you gotta do your job. For a kicker, can you
over kick? Like? Can that cause too much energy to
(32:58):
come off your foot? Um? I think you could maybe
you know kind of I like to say, attack the
ball a little too hard. Um. You know, my goal
is to keep my heart rate as even as possible
throughout the whole game so that doesn't happen. And I
would say that's pretty similar with other positions as well. UM,
not really getting caught up in how much you know
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that kick means and really being on kimahar rate low
and you know, treat ever kicks the same. Um. Okay, look,
yeah you had you had three field goals obviously, um,
and I want to talk to you about the about
the game winner. But we saw Houston missed an extra point.
Obviously that ends up being a huge factor. We've seen
Adam van Terry. Now he missed two field goals, but
he missed an extra point. I would contend that as
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a fan, as a fan, moving the extra point back
is the greatest rule change we've ever had because you
guys are too good. It was just too easy. You
guys are too good, and now it will actually allows
some of them to be missed. From your perspective, now
we're several years into it, what do you think about
the extra point changing. I think you know, obviously kickers
(34:02):
don't like it, but you know it adds the challenge
to it. We know we can't. You know, I would
say when that was on the two yard line. You
know I wasn't in NFL when it was on the
t yard line. But in college, you know I could
do with my eyes closed, and you know, you you
could absolutely shank it and still go in, and you
know you just have to approach you differently. Now I
treat three extra points like thirty three yard field goals,
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and if you don't, you know, you get a little lazy.
And I think that's why they become uh game changers. Okay,
so you guys get the ball and you try to
get the field goal range? What was your range on Monday? Like,
what did you tell them, Hey, I'm good for I'm
good from where. Uh, you know, it's it's not necessarily
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a line. Um, I think being here for four years now,
they kind of all know that. Um, you know, in
the dome, I'll take my chances, you know, sixty yards
and in which would be the forty two yard line.
But in that situation where down by one and you know,
the hail Mary, it's such a slim, slim chance of
that working. And so I think coach knew that just
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about anywhere on the field that we got i'd give
it a chance, and um, you know, unfortunately we got
into a pretty good range there. But you know, I
think in that situation I would not have said no
to any kick. You mentioned the dome. How much does
that help you? Like it? You know, like for for kickers,
obviously you take the elements out of it, truth be told,
how much does that that help you? Well? Personally, Um,
(35:32):
you know, you don't have elements hurting you, but you
also don't have elements helping you, you know, there's no
breeze behind me in the dome, and so you know,
of course there's nothing, there's no no element hurting, but
you know, it would be nice to have a little
briefe up and every now and then. I don't take
it for granted. So you're basically at midfield, you're lining
(35:53):
up for a game winning kick, right, Um, what's what
is your what is your thought what is your thought process? Uh? Well,
you know it's I could be cliche and that I
treated all the same, but that kicked fell a little different. Um,
I told I told our launch snapper. Uh, as soon
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as they scored that touchdown and said, hey, we're gonna
get another chance. So my routine stayed. That stayed the same.
As soon as we got the ball, I was kicking
in the net. And I think it was after the
first two plays we moved thirty yards and two plays.
I was like kind of like, holy cow, we're gonna
we're gonna get a chance here. So you know, I
just continue to do my little my routine into the
kicking net and there we worked. Yeah that's Zach Zach Wood.
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See your long snapper. Yes it doesn't he doesn't he
have that ridiculously low Madden rating like his matter ratings,
like yeah, and it makes no sense because the guy's
an absolute stunt. But hey, you know what, he used
to be a D lineman. He was a D lineman
for the Cowboys. He lost he lost sixty pounds to
become a launch snapper and you guys an absolute off.
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So I'm i'm we're a little confused by that. We
we don't play Matten anyways. Um okay, so you get
out there and you see the same slogo, but least
your feet, like do you look up to know? Like
do you go like, man, this is because you hadn't
And what's what's your career long outside of the NFL?
Like do you have some high school kick from seventy
yards you want to brag about or some some ridiculous
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So I wasn't very good in high school, to be honest.
So so that was my longest attempt, well my longest make.
We attempted to six one yard or my first ever
NFL game and unfortunately I missed that one. But yeah,
that was my longest one. So do you you look
you know, see you do your steps? You're looking down?
Did you look up at all to say, like, damn,
this is really really far. I got a trajectory's gotta
(37:45):
be a little lower. No, you know, I didn't really
have time to think about too much. I kind of
I picked my target between the uprights, and you know,
I told more said as far as trajectory, you know,
it is fifty eight yards, so you do have to
kind of draw it a little more. And you know,
so you asked him to lean the ball forward and
that opens up the sweet spot and and kicker terms,
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it gets through the uprights a little quicker. And that
was kind of my process going into the into the kick.
Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, So so the ball
is not tilted back like like Charlie Brown style, has
actually tilted a little bit forward. Yeah, yeah, you gotta
open up the sweet spot. Um. You know, the sweet
spot on a on a from a kicker standpoint is
about half an inch big. And when you when you
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lean the ball forward a little bit, it makes it
about it. You know, it makes that sweet spot a
little bigger on the football and it just kind of
allows you to drive it a little more. You actually,
if you lean the ball back, it closes off the
sweet spots. So that's the last thing you want. So
it's actually the opposite of what what what the common
like common guy thinks that's that's actually really mean. By
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the way, how did you suck in high school? Why
were you? Why were you bad in high school? I
didn't really take it serious. I mean I was a
soccer player growing up, and all I care about was doccer,
So I never really grew into kicking until I realized
that I had some potential. Carli Lloyd kick in the NFL.
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She could try. I mean, she's talented, she splent, darker,
her whole life. Kicking is in her natural her natural ability.
So I'm all for her. Given it, Given it a shot.
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to kick a fifty eight yard field goal and win
the Saints opener on Monday Night. Football teaching us also
not just about pilates, but about the sweet spot in
a football anything else you want to teach us about,
because we've we've learned a lot here in the last
five minutes. Hey, how much time do you have? We
got time, We got time now. I think that's good.
I think that's good. All right, dude, well listen, congratulations
(39:52):
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I'm kidding sort of right anyway. Uh, this is the
Doug Golap Show on Fox Sports Radio, where every day
we cover Antonio Brown. Hell was that? Do you guys
see something fall there? What was that? Let me just
fell in the studio? I'm really sure. Oh is the
decal on the side of the wall. Yeah, now we're
(01:32):
Fox Sports Adio. That's adio, well constructed, all American construction,
that's what it is. We Yeah, exactly, zero day Did
you guys like my tweet earlier today? Zero days without
an Antonio Brown incident? Oh? Yeah, yeah? And look at
the deal with Antonio Brown is simple and complex all
(01:53):
at the same time. It's complex because there's parts of
the story which when you dig in, like, wait, something
happened three different times, which meant three different times the
same woman was working out Antonio Brown. One would think
that the first time there's an incident, that would that
(02:15):
would be that, or the second time there's an incident
that would be that. There's the why wasn't? Why it
wasn't there's a police investigation. Why is this a civil suit?
There's also the text message that was apparently sent to
this woman, which uh, though graphic and by some needs
to be translated, it doesn't necessarily indict Antonio Brown. All
(02:41):
of that said, and like the timing of it, it
just it feels weird. Okay. I can't say definitively what
I know or what I believe, but what I do
know and what I do believe is we just can't
go another debt. We we go another day, Antonio around,
another thing to talk about, right, like we we did
(03:06):
this the same guy we had furniture thrown out of
an apartment in Miami going back to last year that
nearly hit a kid. This is the guy who had
the Facebook in the locker room live right. This is
the guy who had multiple incidents with Ben Roethlisberger, including
the Week seventeen one which caused him to walk from
(03:28):
the team. This is the guy who you know, forced
his way to being tripped but didn't want to go
to Buffalo, goes to Oakland, gets the money, you know,
buddies up with the quarterback, then has the helmet issue,
then the foot issue, then the helmet issue. I mean,
it's just always, like literally always something. And now you
(03:51):
get to the Patriots, which, as I pointed out yesterday,
it could reinvigorate his career, could make him a Hall
of Famer, because as of right now, I do not
believe he's a Hall of Famer, no matter how good
he's been. And I could make the argument there are
years which he's been the best wide receiver in the game.
They're not putting him in the Hall of Fame if
he doesn't play football anymore. It's not happening. Um, And
(04:14):
you're like, you don't know what you're talking about. Yes,
I do, Yes, I do. T O this is there.
There's a lot of t O to it. But remember
t O did it for a lot longer, and frankly
was more successful and had that one quote unquote heroic
game to take you know, for the Eagles in the
(04:34):
Super Bowl. An Tonio Brown doesn't have that. And this
is just such a mess. And while wide receivers have
always been hard to get into the Hall of Fame,
remember like, he'll play somewhere. I mean, but if it
ends at the end of this year, at the end
of next year, in the five years between now and
when he'd be in the Hall of Fame, there's other
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wide receivers that will come up, and they don't have
all of this stuff, all of this stuff. This is
feeling more like Chad Johnson, Right, that's what that with
Chad Johnson couldn't fit in with the Patriots, goes to
Miami Dolphins, has a domestic domestic assault incident and never
heard from again. Who, by the way, is the childhood
(05:18):
hero grew up in the same area as Antonio Brown.
Like it's bad enough that there's the Oakland mess. Then
Bill Belichick has to answer this question today at the
press conference on Antonio situation. Both Antonio and is a
representatives of date statens and so I'm not gonna be
(05:41):
expanding on any of those. They are what they are.
We've looked into the situation. We're taking it very seriously.
I'm not gonna be entering a discussion about that today.
You can to us all what Antonio Brown has said
it to you. I mean, I'm done with that. Okay,
do you explain what you mean when you're done with it.
I mean, we're just trying to find out if he
said anything teaching about this position about the allegation. Yeah,
(06:01):
I just answered that question. Well, actually you do. I'm
gonna give Belichick the benefit of the doubt here. This
is not necessarily his fight, right, he said, both they
put out a statement and he's not going to comment
on it. Like I I get your reporter, you feel
like it's your job. But he did say, hey, I'm
(06:24):
not going to talk about it. I refer you to Basically,
he was talking Aboutdrew Rosenhaus, who went on TV plus
released a statement earlier today. But but but the idea,
it's one thing. It's one thing to say the Patriots new,
but there's no way the Patriots knew. They would not
(06:45):
have traded to Marius Thomas for a six round pick
if they knew. And there in lies the biggest issue.
This is a true story. But tell you that I'm
not sure I've I think I've told I don't know
if air on air. Sometimes it gets confusing by now, Uh,
it's become internet fodder and fun to point out that.
(07:06):
I mean years ago, was it twenty three years ago?
I got in trouble at Notre Dame UM seven years ago? Yes,
seven years ago, seven seven, a little more than seven
years ago. I left the ESPN to go to CBS,
(07:26):
and in July I kind of agreed to the deal.
But the way it the way they wanted everybody wanted
to work. It was weren't gonna announced until I don't
know it was August or something like that. Anyway, So
it was the night before the day before they were
going to make the announcement, CBS was and I was
on the phone with um Sean McManus is the head
(07:50):
of CBS, he's the president of CBS at the time,
and UM with David Burson, who is the vice president
of the president of CBS Sports. And they were the
two men who recruited me to go there, as well
as the radio department, which was was not launching until January.
And they were they could not be nicer, they could
(08:10):
not be more buttoned up, and they just want to
know how excited they were, and this was gonna happen,
and you know, your phone's gonna blow up and please
run everything through Jenn Sabotel and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah. And I said, well that's great. I said, um, hey,
do you guys want to like, do you how how
how do you want to address the Notre Dame thing?
(08:33):
And they were like what what what Notre Dame thing?
I was like, well, you know, I left Notre Dame
and all that stuff, like we didn't what are you
talking about? And so I like, well, look, this is
what happened. Was a freshman in college and this is
what I did, and this is what this is what happened.
This is what happened. So they were like, we'll have
(08:54):
to get back to you, okay. They had literally had
no idea because they're like, well, he must have been
entity was it the ESPN for ten years? Right? So
I look at it as like, that's the full disclosure.
Is the only way to start into into a business relationship. Hey,
just so you know, because that's what reporters do, that's
(09:18):
what media does, that's what fans definitely do. It doesn't
mean it actually affects my ability to keep my job,
but I just wanted them to supply them with the
knowledge that this could come up, because that's for whatever reason,
occasionally there's been an article written, uh, he did this.
He works at Fox, he used to work at CBS,
(09:38):
and before that, ESPN played Oakum State before that, three
years ago, he got in trouble, right, which I don't
necessarily understand the correlation to now, but I wanted them
to know call me back an hour later, they're like, oh,
we knew all about all that. We just wanted to
make sure there was no new information anything else we
should know. I was like, now, I just wanted you
(09:59):
to know, hey man, that that was really awesome that
you told us. That's what they told me. I wasn't
sharing anything. I didn't think they already knew, but that
was how I So when I when you look at
Antonio Brown, I don't think they're pissed about I mean,
I don't think they're happy about answering questions about it,
(10:20):
but I'm sure they're really not happy that they weren't
informed this was a possibility. Do you understand? You know,
it's like you're sitting down to apply for a loan
and you you try and gloss over, like, hey, look,
last seven years have been fine, my credit score is good.
(10:40):
Just once you know, declared bankruptcy. Going back to you know,
two thousand four, went through a tough time, went through
a divorce. So I the Antonio Brown thing is, I mean,
what what I personal train wreck he appears to be
(11:01):
and what an amazing job. I continue to believe that
what people said about Mike Tomlin being a player's coach
and and and bowing down to Antonio Brown and letting
him get away with too many things to ultimately like
I don't see that at all. I see it as
the Pittsburgh Deals did a great job of getting the
(11:21):
most they could out of a guy who you know,
kind of was a train wreck off the football field,
and they they kept him in line the best they
could until ultimately they had to get rid of them.
And the big mistake, whether it's Antonio Brown or maybe
I'm or anything, Drew Rosen now says, you don't disclose.
This not the way to begin a relationship with the Patriots,
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and it continues to trend towards the possibility they didn't
play football anymore because the Patriots have taken flyers on guys,
but the ones that haven't worked, it's not like they've
gone elsewhere and killed it. And Drew rosenhou's putting out
(12:08):
fires now like I got this, don't worry. I mean,
so you mean to believe that part of the plan
was one million dollars less and guarantees this season and
this story coming out on the day in which he's
officially signed by the Patriots. I don't see that be
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Ben Roethlisberger used to be like, I kinda want to
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He'll point out his own flaws. But he's an honest salesman.
(12:56):
Here's what's going on, Well, anything happened Ben Roethlisberger is
He's been a married guy for a while, but now
he's talking like a married guy. Right, Like married guys
when the wife's around, eyes around, you don't want to
say the wrong thing. That burger they gets smacked thirty
(13:18):
three to three? Was it play calling? Was it the line?
Was it the running game? Do you miss Lavyan? Do
you miss Antonio? Was the wide receivers? Here's Ben Roethlisberger.
They've been the best team of football for a while. Now.
I think everyone's kind of trying to chase them. So
we weren't good enough and we got to get better.
Where do you get better? When I'm only going to
(13:39):
fold us on the quarterback and play because that's what
I control. So the quarterback's gotta get better. No, it's
it's it's not like all of a sudden, we have
to go back to the drawing board and start, you know,
doing this, just you know, scratching everything, cross anything out.
Where do we go from here? It's just we all
need to start with myself play play better. And it's
not there's nothing drastic on anybody's play. It's just little
things here, that of things there. I mean, look, that's
(14:02):
that's that's gonna classified as you know what I'm talking about.
Do all of a sudden he's neutered and he's squatting
to go. That's that's what it feels like like, Big Ben.
Do we remember when Todd Hilly was his offensive coordinator.
He's the crush Todd Hailey, Crush him, crush him. Now
(14:29):
he's like nothing, I'm play calling nothing on the offensive line. Nothing.
All I can focus on is quarterback. It's as like
kind of focus in the quarterback and my play and
just little we don't want to go to the drawing boards.
Wasn't game planning, wasn't coaching. We just gotta do those
little things, like dude, you guys got your asses whooped.
(14:54):
The Patriots haven't been the best team in football for
like they know, they weren't an other best defense. They
had the best offense last year. Now they maybe this year,
and they may have improved that personnel to match up
with their coaching, and they're prepared, and they're at home,
and Brady always kicks the hell out of Pittsburgh's defense.
(15:15):
Albeit this year mayn Latin previous year's zone doesn't really matter.
He's done it all. But what what what did we
do to Ben Roethlisberger. He used to have the most
machismo of any of these guys, and he had the
(15:38):
support of his general Remember what the general manager said
in the off season, all right, we got fifty two
kids and one adult. That's Ben Roethisburg. Because he's he's
the only one is won super Bowl. He's one two.
Ben Rosber was like, man, I want no part of
people thinking I'm a bad teammate, Like I'm winning this thing.
(16:01):
The Antoni Brown looks like a crazy person. Levan Bell
lost fourteen million dollars. I want no part of any
sort of controversy, nontroversy, anything, zero. Right, they went, here's
the expectation of Steelers. They went nine six in one
(16:22):
one and the result it felt like a dumpster fire
for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Brown's gon one trade pron l
Beckham Jr. Get me to one of the offensive lineman, higher,
completely unproven head coach, and they're talking about the Super
Bowl seven eight one. They're ready to throw a parade
in Cleveland. But man, Ben Roethlisberger, Alright, he's like the
(16:52):
guy who all of a sudden he got scared by
going to HR And he used to tell the bi
Ben's got the best dirty jokes. Man, It's got the
best dirty jokes. And all of sudden you go to Ben.
You like, Ben, give me some filthy, give me some dirty.
H He's like, uh knock knock, who's there? Uh awl
(17:14):
al who? Why do you? Who like an owl? Like Ben?
What what happened? I want to hear a dirty joke? Sure,
horse fell in the mud. I want to hear cleanland
somebody washed him off? Like Ben? What happened? What dude?
What happened to Ben Roethlisberger? And I just you know,
(17:37):
I just gotta I only focused on the quarterback play.
That's it. When I watched tape. I only focus on
things that I can change. Is the quarterback play. No,
not nothing drastic, just you know, a little thing here,
a little thing there. Be sure to catch live editions,
So the Doug Dot Leaps Show week days at noon
eastern three pm Pacific. Daniel Jeremiah joined us in The
Doug Gallap Show on Fox Sports Radio Works for the
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NFL Network. For the Chargers, Moved the Sticks is the podcast. Um,
somehow running backs have people convinced that they they are
the ones that are the odd man out in the
new collective Bardner Agreement of this old collective Bartner Agreement,
the Rookie Wade Scale. What's your take on it? Well,
I would listen to you. You brought up an acute
(18:18):
point if you're if you're underwhelming at the position, you're
gonna make money you don't deserve. Um, I get that,
but I mean, really, if you're gonna take a running
back in the first round, I thought the penny pick
was a reach. For the most part, the hit rate
recently has been pretty high. No. Four net has been
a little bit disappointing, but there's been Um, a lot
of those guys have been impact players and if you
(18:40):
you know, look at the nine million number. That's a
good number, but it's not the best number they could get. Um,
So I get where the where the top end guys,
the handful of them can be frustrated just because of
the you know the fact that it's five years and
you have a shelf life of traditionally and probably what
the years for the elite elite guys. Um, So I
understand where they're coming from. They all have a shelf
(19:02):
life of that. Like all these guys have this to
have a short shelf life. That's the that's that's the sport.
That position is different. I mean, you mean, at least
the smart most of smart teams that I talked to
on a daily basis, Um, they're not into and they're
not wanting to spend a lot of money to invest
in twenty seven year old running backs, whereas they're they're
they're gonna break the bank to invest in twenty seven
(19:24):
year old offensive lineman. Danna Jeremiah Jinius and the Doug
Allie Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, was Lamar Jackson
that good or the Dolphins that bad? Yes? It was
it was a combination. Look, the thing that encouraged me
about Lamar is he made the laps, he missed layoffs.
Last year, he had guys open and in the clear,
(19:46):
and he missed some throws, especially to the out tide um.
So this this in this game, the Dolphins played a
lot of zero coverage, a lot of man to man
and uh busted a couple of times and he was
able to capitalize on it. So I thought it's a
step forward for him, no question. But that is a
that is a bad, bad, bad, bad defense that he
(20:07):
won againt with the Miami Dolphins a bad team overall.
So I don't know you make any any big time
conclusions off off one week other than the fact that
I think he's he threw the ball better than he
did last year. That's not something you can argue, yes,
But I would also point out why are they playing
a man and man and why was the safety down
so low? Like I thought, the Chargers did a great
(20:30):
job of showing how to play him and that's you know,
a lot of zone and they played a bunch of
man to man and got beat by Hollywood Brown and
some of the Burners and they got no pressure on him. Well,
and the other thing is it's not like they stopped
the run either there. I think that I think they
gave up like two sixty rushing yards. So I mean
that's a bad unit. It's a bad, bad defense, alright.
(20:50):
Same question for the Cowboys. Is the play calling that
much better? Is Dak Prescott that much better? Or the
Giants at bad? Well, I think it's again it's it's
not to say one or the other. I think the
Giants are are underwhelming defensively, um, But I do think
Dak watching that tape, um, I thought he looked comfortable.
I thought his eyes were in the right place. In
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other words, when they shifted late, when they dropped the
safety down, he was able to find one on ones
that he liked. UM. A lot of stuff they did,
you know, off play action, got a lot of tension.
He did well there. But I just thought overall awareness
that he showed. I mean, you can see he's kind
of you know, he's at the point now where he's
he's been a national football league for a while now,
and uh, he's a smart He's a smart dude. And
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I think he started to slow things down a little bit.
And I do think that is a good sign, um,
you know, for him and the Cowboys. Now the interesting
thing is gonna be Jerry Jones is not gonna uh,
I mean, he's gonna pay. He's gonna pay premium. And
if they do, I thought they would do a contract
this week because that would have been a total Cowboys
thing to do. When the player has the absolute most leverage,
(21:52):
then you do the contract. That that's the That's an
interesting way to do it, but that's kind of been there. Uh,
their way of doing things. The Patriots looked outstanding. You know,
in the past, they've had to they've had to coach
them up, right, they've had to figure it out over
the first couple of weeks and then kind of coach
them up. Now they're coached up and it feels like
you have really good talent. How did this happen? Well,
(22:14):
I mean they're they've they're defensively are so good and
don't get discussed on that side of the ball. I
thought that was the big takeaway there. The way they tackled,
which is unusual this early in the preseason in the
regular season, um, to be tackling as well as they
tackled was impressive. And then I just think the advantage offensively,
um of having the relationship there with coordinator and quarterback
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where they're so comfortable and confident and how to attack
a defense. I thought they would come out and try
and run it a bunch and and being heavy personnel,
and here they come out and spread it out and
chuck it. So. Um, that's their that's their unique ability
to morph into anything they want to do on a
week to week basis. Do they need Antonio Brown? No? No,
I don't. That's why I don't understand that. People say,
(22:57):
what what can you do there? I'm like, okay, what,
that's one side the discussion. They can win the Super
Bowl without him. They don't need him. Uh, And why
would you want to deal with all this other stuff
you gotta deal with? That one? To me, I don't get.
I mean, it's uh. To me, it's it's unnecessary. What
do you think the NFL does? I don't know. You know,
(23:17):
when you get into the legal side of the things,
that gets out of my pay grade and in terms
of how you deal with that, I just I know
the NFL, it sounds like they're looking into this now.
So I just I just look at it from the
team side of things, and just I mean, I just
don't understand, and I don't get it. Why would you
sign up for that? And it doesn't make any sense? Um? Okay,
news at a Charger camp days, Hunter Henry out four
(23:39):
to six with the fracture and his knee. You saw
that hit. He come across the middle, got hit in
that same surgery group pair of knee. So now now
no no Derwin James, no Hunter Henry. Um. You also
you don't have your starting left tackle, and and Eckler
was great, but I'm sure they'd love to have Melvin Gordon.
Like this is an unbelievable roster when healthy. What are
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the Chargers like without Hunter Henry? Well, it's that hurts.
The good news is is that a guy I name
not many people are familiar with that, Sean Colkin is
uh is actually a pretty talented kid who's at a
phenomenal camp in a phenomenal preseason. So you still got
Virgil Green, who's one of the better blocking tight ends.
And I think Colkin is a little bit better than
people think. So you know, to me, the biggest two
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injuries that are the biggest two gaps on this team
right now, it's not from Melvin Gordon. It's not gonna
be from from Hunter Henry. It's it's what the left
tackle first and foremost. When they helped him out, when
they helped out Trent Scott, they were able to get
some big plays down the field. When they soloed him up,
there was a lot of pressure. So that to me
is still something that's needs to be worked around until
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Russell con could come back and then Derwin. You know,
that was the other one. Just with the mistackles, you
saw the safety position that you just never saw from him. Um,
those are the two that that you got to try
and work around and the running backs will be just fine. Yeah,
I kind of I kind of agree. I think that's
um and but they's they want to know and they're
not usually you not usually want to know. What about
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the Colts having seen them in person, what's your prognostication
on what they'll look like this year? I think the
way that they're built, Doug, that they're gonna be in
every single game and it's just gonna come down to
can they win close football games? Because, uh, defensively that
some I would say is greater than their individual parts.
They play hard, They're not gonna give up. You know,
(25:28):
They're not gonna have a bunch of forty point games
that they're gonna allow. They'll keep them in games. And
then offensively, they're built and just match people up front,
so that shortens the game. It's a physical way to play.
Um to me that the formula that they have right
now is kind of a nine and seven and in
six type formula. I don't know the upside is anywhere
near where it would be with Andrew luck. Um, but
(25:50):
they're gonna be in every game. You can't have your
field goal kicker, you're Hall of Fame field goal kicker
miss kicks. If he wasn't that one, if he wasn't
out of Mintaria, he'd be out of a a job today,
wouldn't he. Well, yeah, that would mean he's just got
such a long historical track record that he'll get some grace.
But yeah, that that, you know, really a good point.
That one player kind of cost him that game. So, um, yeah,
they're they're different. I did not buy into the narrative.
(26:12):
I think we had talked about it, uh, Jacobrey present
is that there was to be being a starting caliber quarterback,
which he is, versus being a you know, a superstar,
which is what Andrew luck was there's a tremendous drop
off there. Dana Jeremiah joining us in the Doug Olip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, Raiders look good.
(26:33):
They did a great job of just getting rid of
the football super super quickly. How much of that, though,
was just you know, game planning an emotion, and how
much of it is they really are a much better
football team. I thought it was a brilliant game plan
by John Bruten. Um. I thought that the like you
just said, getting the ball out of your hand. I
thought they did a nice job of allowing Derek Carr
(26:55):
to get into a rhythm and then picking your spots
where you took some shot plays with Tyrone Williams. That
was a brilliant I was one of the best game
plans of the over the entire week. UM. So I
give John Gruden a lot of credit for that. Now, Um,
Derek Derreck played as well as as I've seen him play. Um,
I want to see that a couple more weeks before
I'm willing to say this is the norm here. Um
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that the man it was. It was a good start
for them. Unfortunately, pull up their schedule and look at
their next five games. It is brutal. How big are
the issues for the Cleveland Browns immaturity, lack of discipline.
I mean, those are the things that were real, and
I thought they were real in training camp when you
hear about them in the Colts, you know, scrimmaging and
(27:35):
the Browns borderline bragging on the fact they got in
all those fights with them, I thought was silly. Um,
it was an undisciplined football team and uh, they need
to uh, they need to help out their tackles. We're
talking about the Chargers, and you know, when they can
help out their left tackle, they were able to create
some some chunk plays. I didn't think the Browns did
enough of that in that game. They've got to help
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those guys out there. Just not very good at those spots.
Day Jeremiah joining us Doug gotlip show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, it's it's interesting to me on how
the Texans have seemingly done all of these things to
protect to Shaun Watson, yet he sacked six times at
(28:16):
some point. Isn't it on him to get rid of
the football more quickly? There was a couple that we're
on him. I mean, really, it's not even just getting
rid of the ball. It's the depth of your drop.
You know, there's the one where Tons. You know, people
were kind of banging on tonso for giving up a sack,
but he's I think you was set at eleven or
twelve yards, so, um, he had room to climb up.
He's got to be a little more aware of that
(28:37):
and climb up in the pocket. But there were some
other ones where you had some clean beach. The frustrating
thing for me is when you spend a first round
pick on an offensive lineman and you come around and
I believe Sharpening was a third round pick, and you
have a bad offensive line. Don't trot out the old
veterans that we know can't play. Getting the young guys
out there, let them grow and learn, and they're just
more talented football players. Um. So that that that was
(29:00):
frustrating to watch some some of their older veterans that
you know can't play, still trotting out there. I think
if they get those two rookies up to speed and
get him out there with a center and Martin who's
not bad, and Tons, so I think the premier left tackle,
I think you'll see a much better group. Yeah. That
that's that sounds like it makes a ton of sense. Um.
Cardinals had no offense for three quarters and then all
(29:22):
of a sudden seemed to put some things together. Part
of it was Detroit. Again. It's only one game in
and you you do think Kyler will improve, but he
missed on twenty five passes, early returns on the air,
raid offense and Kyler Murray or what. Well, I'll say this, um,
the positives were. I thought he's settled it and got
(29:42):
comfortable late. They want a lot of empty um. He
got the ball out of you. I mean he made some.
There was a handful of throws. There were big time throws.
I mean he's got he's got a huge arm um.
The the the challenge for them, in my opinion, Doug,
is that offense works. It's an elite offense when you
have obviously you use the quarterback, but when you have
(30:02):
really good offensive line play and you have really good receivers,
that's an elite version of that offense. When you have
one or the other, you can be really good. I
don't think the Cardinals have either. I don't think to
have anybody that's really scares you at the wide receiver position.
I don't think they're good up front, So that's gonna
be their challenge when you go so much three buy
one formation that offense is built where that singled up
(30:23):
receiver you've got one on one and you just try
and wear out that corner. They don't have a guy
to do that. Um, So it's gonna be you know,
I think you'll see you'll see some splash plays, but
it's gonna be very difficult for them to be consistent.
Daniel Jeremiah Moved the Sticks is the podcast. Check him
on the NFL Network or listen to him as he'll
be traveling to Detroit Chargers Lions upcoming this weekend covering
(30:46):
the l A Chargers. DJ great stuff, dude, Thanks buddy.
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search f s are to listen live. I have done
pilates classes, uh probably five ten times in my life. Honestly,
(31:10):
might be the hardest work I've ever done. And I
will just tell you, like it makes you feel good
about your body. There's yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing
what it does to everyone's body in the class with
probably my Will. Let's joins us Kicker from the New
Orleans Saints. You're big poloates guy, right, Will? Hey, what's
(31:33):
up guys? You're a big ploates guy. Right. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's a big part of my routine. Um okay, But
but did you initially go to pilates because it helps
your body or because of the scenery? Uh? Um? I
think it helps my body a lot. I like to
to build my flexibility through strength, and uh that was
(31:54):
the reason I got into it. It's pretty amazing how
hard it is, isn't it? Like I've i've and I'm
in good like I'm in good shape, not questional athlete
like you, and then you go do a plants class like,
oh my god, I think I'm gonna die. I mean
I can treat some of those classes of the full workout. Um,
It's it can be pretty brutal sometimes, but I just
think it's it's crucial though to my routine and I'm
(32:15):
just gonna keep doing it. Yeah. But Will, that's joining
us in the Doug Gottlive Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
what what was the energy like on Monday night in
the Dome? It was incredible. Um. You know, we have
a very, in my opinion, the best man base in
the NFL at our our game day experiences different. Um.
It truly felt like a playoff atmosphere in there and
(32:38):
we're only one game in. How do you how does
that affect you? Right? Because you know, like quarterbacks like Drew,
you gotta contain your energy not overthrow people, right when
when you're on defense, you gotta like over can't over pursue,
you gotta do your job. For a kicker, can you
over kick? Like? Can that cause too much energy to
(32:58):
come off your foot? Um? I think you could maybe
you know kind of I like to say, attack the
ball a little too hard. Um. You know, my goal
is to keep my heart rate as even as possible
throughout the whole game so that doesn't happen. And I
would say that's pretty similar with other positions as well. UM,
not really getting caught up in how much you know
(33:19):
that kick means and really being on kimahar rate low
and you know, treat ever kicks the same. Um. Okay, look,
yeah you had you had three field goals obviously, um,
and I want to talk to you about the about
the game winner. But we saw Houston missed an extra point.
Obviously that ends up being a huge factor. We've seen
Adam van Terry. Now he missed two field goals, but
he missed an extra point. I would contend that as
(33:41):
a fan, as a fan, moving the extra point back
is the greatest rule change we've ever had because you
guys are too good. It was just too easy. You
guys are too good, and now it will actually allows
some of them to be missed. From your perspective, now
we're several years into it, what do you think about
the extra point changing. I think you know, obviously kickers
(34:02):
don't like it, but you know it adds the challenge
to it. We know we can't. You know, I would
say when that was on the two yard line. You
know I wasn't in NFL when it was on the
t yard line. But in college, you know I could
do with my eyes closed, and you know, you you
could absolutely shank it and still go in, and you
know you just have to approach you differently. Now I
treat three extra points like thirty three yard field goals,
(34:25):
and if you don't, you know, you get a little lazy.
And I think that's why they become uh game changers. Okay,
so you guys get the ball and you try to
get the field goal range? What was your range on Monday? Like,
what did you tell them, Hey, I'm good for I'm
good from where. Uh, you know, it's it's not necessarily
(34:46):
a line. Um, I think being here for four years now,
they kind of all know that. Um, you know, in
the dome, I'll take my chances, you know, sixty yards
and in which would be the forty two yard line.
But in that situation where down by one and you know,
the hail Mary, it's such a slim, slim chance of
that working. And so I think coach knew that just
(35:08):
about anywhere on the field that we got i'd give
it a chance, and um, you know, unfortunately we got
into a pretty good range there. But you know, I
think in that situation I would not have said no
to any kick. You mentioned the dome. How much does
that help you? Like it? You know, like for for kickers,
obviously you take the elements out of it, truth be told,
how much does that that help you? Well? Personally, Um,
(35:32):
you know, you don't have elements hurting you, but you
also don't have elements helping you, you know, there's no
breeze behind me in the dome, and so you know,
of course there's nothing, there's no no element hurting, but
you know, it would be nice to have a little
briefe up and every now and then. I don't take
it for granted. So you're basically at midfield, you're lining
(35:53):
up for a game winning kick, right, Um, what's what
is your what is your thought what is your thought process? Uh? Well,
you know it's I could be cliche and that I
treated all the same, but that kicked fell a little different. Um,
I told I told our launch snapper. Uh, as soon
(36:14):
as they scored that touchdown and said, hey, we're gonna
get another chance. So my routine stayed. That stayed the same.
As soon as we got the ball, I was kicking
in the net. And I think it was after the
first two plays we moved thirty yards and two plays.
I was like kind of like, holy cow, we're gonna
we're gonna get a chance here. So you know, I
just continue to do my little my routine into the
kicking net and there we worked. Yeah that's Zach Zach Wood.
(36:38):
See your long snapper. Yes it doesn't he doesn't he
have that ridiculously low Madden rating like his matter ratings,
like yeah, and it makes no sense because the guy's
an absolute stunt. But hey, you know what, he used
to be a D lineman. He was a D lineman
for the Cowboys. He lost he lost sixty pounds to
become a launch snapper and you guys an absolute off.
(37:01):
So I'm i'm we're a little confused by that. We
we don't play Matten anyways. Um okay, so you get
out there and you see the same slogo, but least
your feet, like do you look up to know? Like
do you go like, man, this is because you hadn't
And what's what's your career long outside of the NFL?
Like do you have some high school kick from seventy
yards you want to brag about or some some ridiculous
(37:22):
So I wasn't very good in high school, to be honest.
So so that was my longest attempt, well my longest make.
We attempted to six one yard or my first ever
NFL game and unfortunately I missed that one. But yeah,
that was my longest one. So do you you look
you know, see you do your steps? You're looking down?
Did you look up at all to say, like, damn,
this is really really far. I got a trajectory's gotta
(37:45):
be a little lower. No, you know, I didn't really
have time to think about too much. I kind of
I picked my target between the uprights, and you know,
I told more said as far as trajectory, you know,
it is fifty eight yards, so you do have to
kind of draw it a little more. And you know,
so you asked him to lean the ball forward and
that opens up the sweet spot and and kicker terms,
(38:06):
it gets through the uprights a little quicker. And that
was kind of my process going into the into the kick.
Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, So so the ball
is not tilted back like like Charlie Brown style, has
actually tilted a little bit forward. Yeah, yeah, you gotta
open up the sweet spot. Um. You know, the sweet
spot on a on a from a kicker standpoint is
about half an inch big. And when you when you
(38:27):
lean the ball forward a little bit, it makes it
about it. You know, it makes that sweet spot a
little bigger on the football and it just kind of
allows you to drive it a little more. You actually,
if you lean the ball back, it closes off the
sweet spots. So that's the last thing you want. So
it's actually the opposite of what what what the common
like common guy thinks that's that's actually really mean. By
(38:48):
the way, how did you suck in high school? Why
were you? Why were you bad in high school? I
didn't really take it serious. I mean I was a
soccer player growing up, and all I care about was doccer,
So I never really grew into kicking until I realized
that I had some potential. Carli Lloyd kick in the NFL.
(39:09):
She could try. I mean, she's talented, she splent, darker,
her whole life. Kicking is in her natural her natural ability.
So I'm all for her. Given it, Given it a shot.
Balanced Body is the world's leading resource for all things pilate,
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Go to pilates dot com. Will lots who's used pilates
(39:31):
to kick a fifty eight yard field goal and win
the Saints opener on Monday Night. Football teaching us also
not just about pilates, but about the sweet spot in
a football anything else you want to teach us about,
because we've we've learned a lot here in the last
five minutes. Hey, how much time do you have? We
got time, We got time now. I think that's good.
I think that's good. All right, dude, well listen, congratulations
(39:52):
on not being what you were in high school. Thanks
for taking it seriously and we'll talk soon. Thanks for
having me, Will Lots joining us in The Duggals Show
on Fox Sports Radio
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Doug Gottlieb
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