September 18, 2019 • 31 mins
Doug analyzes the Dolphins and tells you why their rebuild should work long term despite their historically poor start to the season. He also tells you why Eli Manning is obviously a Hall of Famer and anyone who says he’s not is crazy. Plus, Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network joins the show to breakdown the top QB performances from week 2.
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Eli Manning Hall of Famer, Yes or no? Hit me
at Gotlieb Show is Eli. I'm kidding. I'm not doing
Survey Radio. No disrespect to others that are having this,
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I guess legitimate discussion. But well, well there there's one
part of the discussion which is not being had. We'll
get to that upcoming in about twenty minutes. Charles Robinson
gonna join, a senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports, will
get his thoughts on is I'm adding a Hall of Famer?
But I saw this, Um, I saw this. I saw
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this from Sharp Football Analysis and it's Warren Sharp, who
has a website. We've had war on boords, very very
good and um he's trying to use analytics and analysis
to see if the Dolphins are not bad. We would
all agree they're bad, right, if they're the worst team
of all time, and maybe more than importantly, and this
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is the big thing. We know they're bottomed me out?
But are they unloading so many players? Are they to
be so non competitive that they create an atmosphere that
it it's almost impossible to recover from? Right? That's really
the impetus. The Dolphins have a minus ninety two point
differential after two weeks that's tied for the worst of
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all time. Miami's in clear tank mode, and as Warren
Sharp continues to point out, which has been known, but
it might be fair to wonder if the pendulum can
swing too far from the Dolphins the Browns win oh
and sixteen two thousand seventeen. Their port differential after the
first two weeks the season was minus seventeen. They finished
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the entire season minus one seventy six. Remember the Browns
didn't recover the very next year. They but it's the
year before they won one game, So there does get
to be a coulch which is so hard to recover
from that. It took him a couple of weeks last year,
took him half the season last year to kind of
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snap out of it. And they're not as bad, not
as far along as the Dolphins are were only two
weeks in. Right, People make the Browns out this year
to be some reclamation project. There were seven eight one
last year they got beat by the Titans and looks
slight sloppy against the terrible Jets team, and and I
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would say that look well, yesterday we pointed out Baker
Mayfield hasn't been great. But one of the points which
should be made is, hey, the eighteen first game penalties
are more a sign of the culture which they've tried
to rid themselves up. But you can't just this is
not like Men in Black, where you take the neuralizer
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and you press the button and everybody forgets everything that's
hard to do. The Dolphins are on pace to allow
eight sixteen points. Most ever, the current record is five
three um by the Baltimore Colt. Should be pointed out
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that the Dolphins are not just bad. The Dolphins are
owing two at home right Like, I'll grant you they're
gonna play the Jets twice, but they gotta play the
Jets on the road. They gotta play the Pats on
the road. They got that. They still have eight road
games to be played. The first two games the year
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being played at home are not only beneficial because you're
at home, but in Miami. And I think Bill Belichick
actually talked about this yesterday's press conference. He says, the
hottest they've ever been on the sideline. The the way
in which that stadium, Dolphins Stadium is built. It has
you know, just the roof over the field is open
and in the fall early fall sun, you're like insects
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under a magnifying glass. They get the benefit of the
other team being at like a hundred and thirty degrees
and they still have given up nine two points. I've
been beaten by nine two points point differential. In the
first two games, they've allowed six completion conversion percentage on
third down. Current record is forty nine point six. They're
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on pace to allow fourteen thousand, four hundred seventy six yards,
more than two times the current record, which is seven thousand,
forty two by the two thousand twelve UH Saints. And
so there's a legit concern there. This could be the
worst team of all time and the worst team of
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all time that takes longer to recover than normal. That's
Warren Sharp's hypotheses, right, all of this hypotheses. I don't
remember a ton about science, but I do remember there's
a difference in hypotheses and a theory. A theory is
one which is which has um which has actually been
tried out. My guess is that'll be fine. That'll be
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fine because they have six first round picks in the
next um two years, six five second round picks, four
third round picks. These in the next three years, excuse me,
six first round picks, five second round picks, four third
round picks. And people are saying, like, wait, looks all
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of this for a quarterback. No, it's not just for
a quarterback. We all know the salary cap is gonna
shoot up, and they've been dumping salary cap. We know that,
so they'll be able to pick and choose. And oh yeah,
by the way, as much as there seems to be
a culture which is going to sit in of losing,
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it allows Brian Floor as their head coach. If you
can hang tough during these times, if you can fight
for your position, fight for your teammates. Everybody in this
room is not going to be around, but we know
who wants to be here based upon how they played
during these dire circumstances. Two people who say this has
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never happened before in the NFL, they're right, But this
is exactly exactly what the two thirteen Houston Astros look like.
Go back and look non competitive. In the conversation of
worst team in the history of baseball, no one watched,
no one cared. They were the laughing stock, and they
were the process. Go back and look at the Philadelphia seventies.
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Some people choose to just paint the walls. Like my
wife and I we've owned I think it's eight houses,
and with every house we buy, the first thing she
does is, let's just paint everything, paying everything, because you
put a new code of paint on something and it
looks bread. It's amazing. She's right, it's amazing what it
looks like. Some people just choose to do a bathroom,
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choose to do a kitchen. But if you want to
do it right, and you could afford to do it,
and you have the time to do it, you get
it to the studs. Don't just take down one wall,
take them all down. Build it right from the ground up.
And the Dolphins have been much like the New York Knicks.
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They've been much like so many of these other big
names sports franchises, constantly searching, chasing the ghosts of the past,
trying to redo things on the fly. And yeah, their
doctors screwed up with the Drew Brees thing they did.
They were gonna get Drew Brees and the doctor's like, yeah,
I don't know about that shoulder oops. And Nick Saban building,
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they got Chad Pennington way too late. They haven't had
the dude at quarterback. Ryan Tannehill couldn't stay healthy and
probably never was the dude. They just haven't been able
to get it right as they've tried to fix the
quarterback position. Last year they tried to fix the culture.
Now they're gonna just try and fix it all, sell
off all the pieces declared Chapter seven, reformulate, come back
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and build it from the ground up. Is it painful? Sure?
Does it take time to relearn and rebuild a winning culture. Absolutely.
And though we have never seen this in the history
of the Nation Football League, we watched in baseball how
the Houston Nastros doing better? Right, And they did it
mostly draft picks, and then they sprinkled in free agents
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in some trades like the justin Verlando went correct. We
see what the Philadelphia sevent doug They have one NBA
finals So they went from being non competitive laughing stock
in the league to a legit threat to win an
Eastern Conference championship every year. And they're trying to figure out,
you know, how to get Ben Simmons to take the
next step. And to anybody says, well, Ben Simmons, like
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Ben Simmons has played two years in the NBA, that's it.
Oh yeah, I know. He's been in the NBA for
three technically one his Rookie of the Year in his
second year in the league. He's been for two years.
It's not fun to be a part of it's not
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fun to watch to be a fan of. And yes,
it feels like, oh my god, this is the worst
team I've ever seen, and they might just be. And
you have a rookie coach that may not know exactly
how he's supposed to do what he's supposed to do.
But the idea that they're just doing this for a quarterback,
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that's not right. They're going to rebuild an entire team.
They're not done wheeling and dealing the salary capital spike.
They'll add some pieces. They'll have a ton of draft picks,
and look, you gotta gotta get lucky in terms of
what quarterback you take. But they got an entire year
to invest in identify who they're gonna get and where
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they're gonna get him, and who they're gonna surround him
by surround him with. But this stuff works, and to
anyone who thinks it doesn't, I can give you other
sports or even the Raiders of last year. It doesn't
mean the Raiders is gonna win a Super Bowl this year.
But they dealt away from multiple picks and they're rebuilding
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their culture. They obviously made a terrible acquisition with Antonio Brown,
but they got out of that without spending a dime.
And the Raiders are on a three year plan, so
they feel like they can roll out in Las Vegas
next year and be competitive, and that seems like a
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reasonable thing to to to expect twelve months from right now.
So Warren Shops not wrong. Their culture is gonna be
a mess. It's gonna be hard to dig out. They
might well be the worst team of all time. But
if you think that culture stays and stands and it's
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impossible to come back from, give you the Astros, give
you the Sixers. That's where this plan stems from, and
that's where I think the Dolphins are going. Be sure
to catch live editions of the Doug Dot Leaps Show
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I know
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you're like, well, aren't you gonna do the what everybody
else has done with Eli Manning? Now, No, I'm not.
I'm not gonna argue whether or not he will be
in the Hall of Fame because he's going to be
in the Hall of Fame. Like I can do that
if you, if it please you, But I just don't
because I'm a realist. I've don this for a long time,
and if there's a question, I go down. I come
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down to is there a is there a story that
puts him over the top. Two super Bowl wins, Yes,
New York, Yes, Last Day Manning, Yes, gets it, and
one of his wins are over arguably the greatest team
you've seen in modern football history. He's getting Does it
mean that he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time? No? No?
Should should he be in a different discussion. But he's
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gonna get it. So there'll be a little bit of
sympathy vote because he's Peyton's brother. There'll be a little
bit of New York vote. There'll be a Super Bowl vote,
There'll be part of the vote that he because he
beat the Patriots when he werendefeated. All of those things
will help him. He's gonna get it. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leaps Show week
days at noon Eastern three pm Pacific. Nobody wants with
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somebody else built. They want to They want to say, Hey,
see that, see that? You like this room? It's beautiful room.
I painted it. You like this coach, you like this
general manager? I picked him? And oh yeah, By the way,
it's not hard to trace if the Pittsburgh Steelers fell
apart and if they fired Mike Tomlin, the new owner
of the Carolina Panthers used to be a partial owner
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of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Who do you think he's gonna hire?
You know, come on, this is not hard. So I
used to think that the Carolina Panthers were forever tied
to Cam Newton. He won the m v P, took
him to the the Super Bowls. Really hard. But when you
only got two million dollars to get out of the
Cam Newton business, and the injuries keep palling up, and
there's uncertainty heading into the week, and you can't run
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Cam Newton around the goal line. The biggest, strongest, best
running quarterback we've ever seen. Look, Mike Vick was faster,
Steve Young was craftier, but we've never seen a six
ft five six ft six, two sixty pound grown man
run by, over, around, through anything in his path until
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Cam Newton. You can't run him. You got him standing
back there throwing at fifty one times. Not optimal. Fox
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s R to listen live. He ows to move the
six podcasts he in the NFL network plus Uh. He's
the color analyst on radio for the l A Chargers,
and the Chargers had a game that could have won
four times over didn't and a big reason why it
was a late interception thrown by Philip Rivers and he
had Virgil Green open wide open over the middle, could
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have thrown it, take the field goal, gone to overtime.
He he did not um so much. The discussion this
week has been about Drew Brees injury out, Ben Roethlisberg
out for the year, same injury, all kind of same
draft class, same age. How has Philip Rivers looked this year? Well,
he's been fine, Dug. You know. That was that was
the decision. I think he would like to have back,
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you know, And I don't want to give him an excuse,
but when you've got your your backup kicker out there,
who's already missed two very makeable kicks um in the game,
I thought maybe he was a little bit over aggressive
and it was a play that it was a throw
that's quite honestly, he made the exact same throw against
the Colts, UM that that ended up being a touchdown.
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It was the same probably poor decision in the Indianapolis game.
Um and Keen end up you kind of out muscle
on those two guys for the ball. This time he
didn't get away with it, so UM, you know that
was you know, it was a bad decision on his part.
But they fumbled on the one trying to jump over
the pile. Um, they missed a couple of field goals,
they had two touchdowns called back. I mean it was, Um,
just a lot of a lot of things for a
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very injured team that kind of uh, none of those
things really went their way. So they're a better team
in my opinion, and the Lions I think significantly better. Um.
But they didn't finish the game. Yeah they did. It's
kind of what the Chargers used to always do, always
be injured and find a way to lose, which is
something they had turned the corner with. Um. How hard
will it be against the Texans at home this Sunday? Well,
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I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be
a very good opponent. You know, after watching their tape
and studying the Texans but you know the fun thing
that I've enjoyed, Doug, this is kind of a as
a lifelong scout, but to do this charges gig and
travel with the team, I think you get a totally
uh inside look at it, and um, this is a
team that's very there's a lot of veterans and very
mature and even just kind of being on the plane
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and talking with guys like they h they quickly turned
the page. Hey, put it behind you. You've got a
big one in an FC game this week in Houston,
a team that uh didn't look great offensively last week
against Jacksonville, but I thought defensively it's a really really
good group. And then you've got a dynamic player in Hopkins,
uh that you've got to worry about. So it's gonna
be a tough one. Yeah, but if they can win it,
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they get Miami, which seems like a win. And then
you know Denver, who's who's struggling at home before you
get Pittsburgh, who is going to have a backup quarterback.
So let's schedule that looked uh formidable. Now the sudden
has a chance to to get them going in the
right direction. Doug Alix show here on Fox Sports Radio.
What do you make of the timing of Eli Manning
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being benched. Well, I mean, look at a couple of
a couple of things. I think that you know, I
saw Kurt Warner had said this, and I agree with
Kurt on this point that you know, they're not the
reason they're not winning. It's not because of Eli Manning.
I mean, this roster is not are you good defensively?
They don't have any players on the outside. It's a
team that's truthfully kind of built through the running back
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that was trying to operate in a system through the quarterback,
which didn't make any sense to me. Um, but they played.
They played Buffalo last week and they got a chance
to see Josh Allen on a team that maybe doesn't
have a ton of playmakers, Josh Allen run around, makes
some plays, He's a threat as a runner that helps
the run game out and did just some more answers.
When you have an athletic quarterback, and I think on
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a team that's a little bit limited, they look at
at Daniel Jones his ability to move around and create
and and we'll give him a chance to expand their
offense a little bit. And uh, with his athletic ability
and give them a better chance. So I guess I
understand why they did it, and I think you can
understand why they did it and say, you know, look,
this is not the I wouldn't pen this all on
Eli Manning. Um, he's going to get into the Hall
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of Fame. I think that's a silly discussion. I do
think it's a smart discussion to say, in reality, should
he Should he get in the offense? In my opinion, yes, um,
just because you know people always say a lot of
times you hear people say, well you gotta be one
at one point time, you after one of the three
or four best. I don't think he would get under
the end of that criteria. But I think when you
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look at the giant of our with no pun intended,
the team that's run the NFL for twenty years now,
however long it's been, and he slayed him twice, I
think that does count for something. I think that that
is what's going to get him ultimately into the Hall
of Fame. And I have no problem with it. I
think that's a you know, those are major accomplishments. What
he was able to get done in those two big games.
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Dania Jeremiah moved. The six is the podcast, NFL Network
is his home, plus you can hear about the Chargers
radio network. He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. We started talking about Cam
Newton only two million dollars in dead cat money. They
don't run him around the goal line last Thursday, right
when they're trying to try to win the game. Um,
he's more banged up than than than people had realized.
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And you know, and you make him into a thrower,
he's still kind of Cam Newton. What do you think
ultimately is the future for Cam Newton in Carolina? Well,
you know, I don't want to be too out front
on this and premature, but it just feels like this
could be one of those situations where it's a clean
sweep after the year with Carolina, you know, you've got
a relatively new owner. UM, I could see it being Okay,
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this is our time, let's turn this thing over. Now.
We made a run to the super Bowl with Cam,
but that's behind us. Now it's gonna be a new
general manager, new head coach, new quarterback and start fresh. Um,
that's what it kind of feels like. I'd be surprised
if if we see a similar version of Cam to
what we've seen this year, if if he was their
quarterback going to the next season. It just feels like
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it's time to try and start fresh and start something
new there in Carolina, Dana Jeremiah joining us. The Miami
Dolphins are historically bad already minus ninety two point differential.
You're gonna see him in a couple of weeks in
in Miami. How hard is this going to be recovered?
From We were reading some stuff Warren sharp Suit does
that football analysis, you know, sharp football, and he's like, look,
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this so bad it may take years to recover. I
look at this as like the Hoaston Astros. Yeah you're bad,
but you're gonna draft a ton of guys and just
completely turn over the roster. How hard do you think
this is gonna be recovered from year to year? Well,
it's a long way to travel. But they're gonna have
a lot of assets, so you know, and everybody looks
at the number of picks they have. Now that number
is gonna grow, Dug. They're gonna end up trading back
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on a couple of those and it'll be a whole
host of picks. Um. But when you look at at
some of these these situations around the league, when you
don't have the core positions taken care of, UM, I really,
you know, I can understand why they're going in the
direction that they're going, especially you know, the Minka the
Minka move. If he's not playing corner for you, you know,
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you go out try and find a couple of corners, tackles,
pass rushers like that's what they're gonna be tasked with,
as well as obviously first and foremost finding their future quarterback.
So I don't I wouldn't want to. I would, personally,
if you look at it from a fan perspective, take
the personnel side out of it. Um, you know, I mean,
I don't want to watch as set have an eight
nine win team every year when I'd I'd rather, you know,
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roll the dice, try and start over and see if
you can and hit the lottery. Here, I tend to
agree with you. Everybody says that they want competitive, but
what they really want is a great team, and sometimes
it takes a while to build. What happens with Jalen Ramsey, well,
to me, that look, the Philadelphia Eagles make a lot
of sense to me. Um, that's a classic Howie Rosemond
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type move. Um, it's a need for them. Um, I
think he would fit into their culture. Um, that one,
to me makes a lot of sense. And and uh,
I would say the other two teams that makes sense.
Kansas City for obvious reasons, kind of go all in,
uh this year with with a team that's ready to
win a Super Bowl. And I would put the Chargers
in there, quite honestly, And that's not based off of
talking to anybody there. But when I think about his
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relationship with Derwin James, their best friends, and he's played
for Gus Bradley, they have a great relationship, and obviously
it's a position that need for the Chargers. So I
think those three teams would would make tremendous sense. But
I know it's gonna cost a lot, not just in
draft picks, but in the amount of money he's gonna want. Yep, yep,
that's that that that that's true. And they have Joey
Bosta pay next year, they gotta decide what to do
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with Melvin Gordon, uh if and when Melvin Gordon shows
back up, they get some other big decisions to make.
Daniel Jeremiah is our guest here on the Doug Gottliep
Show on Fox Sports Radio. How long till the League
catches up to Lamar Jackson. Well, that they've built it smartly. Um,
I thought last year they did not have the right
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compliments at receiver to compliment his style of play. Meaning
they need some over the top guys that could really
stretch the field your run, run, run, and be able
to hit some home runs. And I think Hollywood Brown
is the perfect fit for them. So they have a formula,
Doug I think can work now. I don't think you
gonna see him dropping back thirty times a game and
having consistent success like he's had against the two bad
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teams they've played. But if they can continue to play
good defense and run the ball. Um, they've got guys
now with the tight ends they can get over the
top when you pull the linebackers up. And now they've
got a receiver who can get over the top. I
liked way they've kind of framed this team and built
it around Lamar skills. Yeah, it is because you know
he struggles with the short underneath stuff, and they're not
really throwing short underneath and it's it's kind of, you know,
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to do what he does best. Um, you are close.
You used to work in Baltimore. What did they say
about Kyler Murray and whether that experiment will work? Well,
it's it looked exactly like I know we've had this conversation.
I distinctly remember having this conversation. I felt. I felt
this offense would really move the ball well between the twenties. UM.
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I thought once they got down inside the red zone,
when the space disappears, I was concerned about how they
were going to score, you know, and they don't have
those um you know, you're not gonna be able to
run the ball that well out of that offense when
you get down there in a condensed area and then
they don't have any just complete world beaters on the
outside at this point in time. So that was my
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concern going into the season. And I thought, that's exactly
what unfolded there in Baltimore. A ton of passing yards
between the twenties and they couldn't cash in. I told
people in Lynch Golf steel was signed. I said, hey,
I talked to the Chargers and they were like, man,
Jerry go was pretty good. From from those scrimmages. Right
then I talked to the Raiders folks and they were like, hey,
Jared Gos's pretty good. Of the things we learned last
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last week when the Rams beat the Saints. One. I've
never been a big Teddy Bridgewater guy, and there's some reason. Um.
But also like people still kind of seem that were
down on Jared Goff after signing that big deal, seemed
have gone really quiet. Yeah. No, he's a good player. Man. Look,
he's the first pick in the draft for a reason.
He's very talented. Um. I think he's comfortable and confident.
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That just continued to grow. I think having a Super
Bowl appearance last year and all the success they had, Um,
he just looked like a very confident, comfortable player back.
There isn't a scheme that fits him beautifully. Um, so
I think he's set up for success. And uh, you know,
I'm with you. I was. I liked Teddy coming in
the draft process. He was my top quarterback that year
and I didn't have he was maybe you know, fourteenth
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or fifteenth on my on my list that year, but
he was my top quarterback and very accurate. I just, man,
when I saw in the preseason this year seen him
in person, was not impressed. And then I saw Taysom
Hill come in and I know it's the preseason, but man,
you've you've got a lot to deal with there as
a defensive coordinator. I would imagine, you know, with them
being a win now mode, they will not give a
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long lease there to Teddy. If it does not click
right away, do you throw Taysom Hill out there? You
almost kind of scrap your traditional offense, try and run
the ball and play defense until Drew Brees comes back.
And by the way, Tom Brady was limited in today's
practice with the calf injury. Just sort aware calf injury. Interesting, Yeah,
calf injury. Bad week for older quarterbacks. Huhm, But that's
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what the older quarterbacks do, right, they get hurt. Time
Bomb ticky ticking ticking time bomb is absolutely positively correct. Um,
all right, let's let's move around the league just just
a little bit more. Doug gotlip show. You're listening to
Daniel jeremiahs our guest. Download the Move the Sticks podcast.
It's a really good one. When did when did Russell
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Wilson switch over into being one of the top five
guys in the league, Like I every game seems to
come down to him running around back there and making
a play. But the virtuoso performance he put on in Pittsburgh,
is that just the case of Pittsburgh not playing that
well or has has Russell kind of turned into one
of these lead couple of guys. He's he is up
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there at the top. I mean, he is fantastic. And uh,
you know one thing I will I will give Russell
a lot of credit because I've heard, you know, the
stories of him in the off season and how regimented
he is. I mean, every minute is accounted for um
and uh, he has really put in the work and
you've seen, I mean, Doug, it's a trend line man.
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You've seen just every year steady improvement with him. And uh,
you know, I always say early on with young quarterbacks,
it's it's it's a it's a key that they have
some mobility so they can use their legs to get
themselves at us in trouble. That defense is present until
they can get enough time and experience where and then
they can use their mind to be able to get
out of those situations. And I think Russell is in
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that sweet spot right now where he still has all
that mobility, Doug, but now he's got the head knowledge
of what defenses are trying to do. So he's got
the answers with both his legs and his brain. Um,
and that is scary. I mean, I don't know how
long he'll stay in this sweet spot. Before you know,
the legs start to go a little bit and he's
got to rely solely on what he's doing upstairs. But
right now he has everything. Uh. Is the Garoppolo thing real? Like?
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I know they haven't played top level of competition, but uh,
but aside from the turnovers, Um, he's starting to put
up some numbers and they are too. And oh and
there are high expectations of this Niner team. I'm oning
what your assessment of Jimmy Jesus is. Well, I think
he looks good and I think he's gotten better on
a second week. I'm I'm a Garoppolo guy, but I
think the main story there if you look at that
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fort team, first of all, the defenses will front is
really good. But the second thing is Doug. Look at
the way they ran the ball. Look at the Shanahan tree,
look at the way he runs the ball. Look at
the way la Fleur is getting the Packers to run
the ball a little bit better. UF. You look at Kubiak,
who comes from the whole Shanahan system. Look what he's
done for Minnesota's ground game. At Dalvin Cook. Like, why
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everybody in the NFL does not run just outside zone
is a mystery to me. Those guys all run it
every year. Yeah, you see, even even the even the
Rams ran in a ton, right, I mean just against
against against the Saints. Say it's like student body left,
student body right, you know, push it to the edge
and then you know, maybe one cut and and off
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we go, and it seems to be something that works.
You mentioned Green Bay. It was a little back and
forth between the floor and Aaron Rodgers two weeks in.
What do you think of the new offense. I think
it's still a work in progress. I think the best
thing going for them is UM as well as their
defense is playing right now. And as a nice job
as they've done building that defense, Uh, they're gonna be
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afforded some time here before they figure out that. You know,
where they what they want to do, and who they
want to be offensively, So UM it would be enhanced
if you're losing tames and still trying to find your footing.
But man, it does take a lot of pressure off
when you're when you're finding ways to win games where
you're still figuring things out. Do you think Kaepernick gets
a call? Man, it's somebody you know I saw somewhere
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to the days. It's been like four years? Is that
how long it's been. It has been a long time.
Realized that much time had elapsed. Um, I mean you
look at it always like we always say it only
takes one team, right, But but isn't it Usually Like
there's an article in USA today where it's like, well,
people only call who they know, Like the guy he
knows is Greg Roman in Baltimore, and one they don't
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need to back up they have one. And secondly, like
he's Sully that relationship with it with his girlfriend's I
g like, that's the way you have to bring in
somebody who might know your system and the only system
that he seemingly would be comfortable with, that's a place
he can't go. Yeah, it's it's a fair point. It
just to me, it's it's given the point now where
it's like the length of the layoff, you know, and
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I don't know all the particulars of who's you know
called him over the years, and you know you hear stories,
Oh he didn't want to be a backup, you want
to be a starter. I don't. I don't have all
that information. I just know that at this point in
time there is a has a long layoff to bring
somebody in, no question about it, Daniel Jeremiah. We'll get
what you think about the Houston Texans next week as
you see him in person against the charges of the meantime,
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I guess legitimate discussion. But well, well there there's one
part of the discussion which is not being had. We'll
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gonna join, a senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports, will
get his thoughts on is I'm adding a Hall of Famer?
But I saw this, Um, I saw this. I saw
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this from Sharp Football Analysis and it's Warren Sharp, who
has a website. We've had war on boords, very very
good and um he's trying to use analytics and analysis
to see if the Dolphins are not bad. We would
all agree they're bad, right, if they're the worst team
of all time, and maybe more than importantly, and this
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is the big thing. We know they're bottomed me out?
But are they unloading so many players? Are they to
be so non competitive that they create an atmosphere that
it it's almost impossible to recover from? Right? That's really
the impetus. The Dolphins have a minus ninety two point
differential after two weeks that's tied for the worst of
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all time. Miami's in clear tank mode, and as Warren
Sharp continues to point out, which has been known, but
it might be fair to wonder if the pendulum can
swing too far from the Dolphins the Browns win oh
and sixteen two thousand seventeen. Their port differential after the
first two weeks the season was minus seventeen. They finished
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the entire season minus one seventy six. Remember the Browns
didn't recover the very next year. They but it's the
year before they won one game, So there does get
to be a coulch which is so hard to recover
from that. It took him a couple of weeks last year,
took him half the season last year to kind of
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snap out of it. And they're not as bad, not
as far along as the Dolphins are were only two
weeks in. Right, People make the Browns out this year
to be some reclamation project. There were seven eight one
last year they got beat by the Titans and looks
slight sloppy against the terrible Jets team, and and I
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would say that look well, yesterday we pointed out Baker
Mayfield hasn't been great. But one of the points which
should be made is, hey, the eighteen first game penalties
are more a sign of the culture which they've tried
to rid themselves up. But you can't just this is
not like Men in Black, where you take the neuralizer
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and you press the button and everybody forgets everything that's
hard to do. The Dolphins are on pace to allow
eight sixteen points. Most ever, the current record is five
three um by the Baltimore Colt. Should be pointed out
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that the Dolphins are not just bad. The Dolphins are
owing two at home right Like, I'll grant you they're
gonna play the Jets twice, but they gotta play the
Jets on the road. They gotta play the Pats on
the road. They got that. They still have eight road
games to be played. The first two games the year
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being played at home are not only beneficial because you're
at home, but in Miami. And I think Bill Belichick
actually talked about this yesterday's press conference. He says, the
hottest they've ever been on the sideline. The the way
in which that stadium, Dolphins Stadium is built. It has
you know, just the roof over the field is open
and in the fall early fall sun, you're like insects
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under a magnifying glass. They get the benefit of the
other team being at like a hundred and thirty degrees
and they still have given up nine two points. I've
been beaten by nine two points point differential. In the
first two games, they've allowed six completion conversion percentage on
third down. Current record is forty nine point six. They're
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on pace to allow fourteen thousand, four hundred seventy six yards,
more than two times the current record, which is seven thousand,
forty two by the two thousand twelve UH Saints. And
so there's a legit concern there. This could be the
worst team of all time and the worst team of
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all time that takes longer to recover than normal. That's
Warren Sharp's hypotheses, right, all of this hypotheses. I don't
remember a ton about science, but I do remember there's
a difference in hypotheses and a theory. A theory is
one which is which has um which has actually been
tried out. My guess is that'll be fine. That'll be
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fine because they have six first round picks in the
next um two years, six five second round picks, four
third round picks. These in the next three years, excuse me,
six first round picks, five second round picks, four third
round picks. And people are saying, like, wait, looks all
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of this for a quarterback. No, it's not just for
a quarterback. We all know the salary cap is gonna
shoot up, and they've been dumping salary cap. We know that,
so they'll be able to pick and choose. And oh yeah,
by the way, as much as there seems to be
a culture which is going to sit in of losing,
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it allows Brian Floor as their head coach. If you
can hang tough during these times, if you can fight
for your position, fight for your teammates. Everybody in this
room is not going to be around, but we know
who wants to be here based upon how they played
during these dire circumstances. Two people who say this has
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never happened before in the NFL, they're right, But this
is exactly exactly what the two thirteen Houston Astros look like.
Go back and look non competitive. In the conversation of
worst team in the history of baseball, no one watched,
no one cared. They were the laughing stock, and they
were the process. Go back and look at the Philadelphia seventies.
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Some people choose to just paint the walls. Like my
wife and I we've owned I think it's eight houses,
and with every house we buy, the first thing she
does is, let's just paint everything, paying everything, because you
put a new code of paint on something and it
looks bread. It's amazing. She's right, it's amazing what it
looks like. Some people just choose to do a bathroom,
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choose to do a kitchen. But if you want to
do it right, and you could afford to do it,
and you have the time to do it, you get
it to the studs. Don't just take down one wall,
take them all down. Build it right from the ground up.
And the Dolphins have been much like the New York Knicks.
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They've been much like so many of these other big
names sports franchises, constantly searching, chasing the ghosts of the past,
trying to redo things on the fly. And yeah, their
doctors screwed up with the Drew Brees thing they did.
They were gonna get Drew Brees and the doctor's like, yeah,
I don't know about that shoulder oops. And Nick Saban building,
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they got Chad Pennington way too late. They haven't had
the dude at quarterback. Ryan Tannehill couldn't stay healthy and
probably never was the dude. They just haven't been able
to get it right as they've tried to fix the
quarterback position. Last year they tried to fix the culture.
Now they're gonna just try and fix it all, sell
off all the pieces declared Chapter seven, reformulate, come back
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and build it from the ground up. Is it painful? Sure?
Does it take time to relearn and rebuild a winning culture. Absolutely.
And though we have never seen this in the history
of the Nation Football League, we watched in baseball how
the Houston Nastros doing better? Right, And they did it
mostly draft picks, and then they sprinkled in free agents
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in some trades like the justin Verlando went correct. We
see what the Philadelphia sevent doug They have one NBA
finals So they went from being non competitive laughing stock
in the league to a legit threat to win an
Eastern Conference championship every year. And they're trying to figure out,
you know, how to get Ben Simmons to take the
next step. And to anybody says, well, Ben Simmons, like
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Ben Simmons has played two years in the NBA, that's it.
Oh yeah, I know. He's been in the NBA for
three technically one his Rookie of the Year in his
second year in the league. He's been for two years.
It's not fun to be a part of it's not
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fun to watch to be a fan of. And yes,
it feels like, oh my god, this is the worst
team I've ever seen, and they might just be. And
you have a rookie coach that may not know exactly
how he's supposed to do what he's supposed to do.
But the idea that they're just doing this for a quarterback,
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that's not right. They're going to rebuild an entire team.
They're not done wheeling and dealing the salary capital spike.
They'll add some pieces. They'll have a ton of draft picks,
and look, you gotta gotta get lucky in terms of
what quarterback you take. But they got an entire year
to invest in identify who they're gonna get and where
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they're gonna get him, and who they're gonna surround him
by surround him with. But this stuff works, and to
anyone who thinks it doesn't, I can give you other
sports or even the Raiders of last year. It doesn't
mean the Raiders is gonna win a Super Bowl this year.
But they dealt away from multiple picks and they're rebuilding
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their culture. They obviously made a terrible acquisition with Antonio Brown,
but they got out of that without spending a dime.
And the Raiders are on a three year plan, so
they feel like they can roll out in Las Vegas
next year and be competitive, and that seems like a
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reasonable thing to to to expect twelve months from right now.
So Warren Shops not wrong. Their culture is gonna be
a mess. It's gonna be hard to dig out. They
might well be the worst team of all time. But
if you think that culture stays and stands and it's
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impossible to come back from, give you the Astros, give
you the Sixers. That's where this plan stems from, and
that's where I think the Dolphins are going. Be sure
to catch live editions of the Doug Dot Leaps Show
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you're like, well, aren't you gonna do the what everybody
else has done with Eli Manning? Now, No, I'm not.
I'm not gonna argue whether or not he will be
in the Hall of Fame because he's going to be
in the Hall of Fame. Like I can do that
if you, if it please you, But I just don't
because I'm a realist. I've don this for a long time,
and if there's a question, I go down. I come
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down to is there a is there a story that
puts him over the top. Two super Bowl wins, Yes,
New York, Yes, Last Day Manning, Yes, gets it, and
one of his wins are over arguably the greatest team
you've seen in modern football history. He's getting Does it
mean that he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time? No? No?
Should should he be in a different discussion. But he's
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gonna get it. So there'll be a little bit of
sympathy vote because he's Peyton's brother. There'll be a little
bit of New York vote. There'll be a Super Bowl vote,
There'll be part of the vote that he because he
beat the Patriots when he werendefeated. All of those things
will help him. He's gonna get it. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leaps Show week
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somebody else built. They want to They want to say, Hey,
see that, see that? You like this room? It's beautiful room.
I painted it. You like this coach, you like this
general manager? I picked him? And oh yeah, By the way,
it's not hard to trace if the Pittsburgh Steelers fell
apart and if they fired Mike Tomlin, the new owner
of the Carolina Panthers used to be a partial owner
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of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Who do you think he's gonna hire?
You know, come on, this is not hard. So I
used to think that the Carolina Panthers were forever tied
to Cam Newton. He won the m v P, took
him to the the Super Bowls. Really hard. But when you
only got two million dollars to get out of the
Cam Newton business, and the injuries keep palling up, and
there's uncertainty heading into the week, and you can't run
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Cam Newton around the goal line. The biggest, strongest, best
running quarterback we've ever seen. Look, Mike Vick was faster,
Steve Young was craftier, but we've never seen a six
ft five six ft six, two sixty pound grown man
run by, over, around, through anything in his path until
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Cam Newton. You can't run him. You got him standing
back there throwing at fifty one times. Not optimal. Fox
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s R to listen live. He ows to move the
six podcasts he in the NFL network plus Uh. He's
the color analyst on radio for the l A Chargers,
and the Chargers had a game that could have won
four times over didn't and a big reason why it
was a late interception thrown by Philip Rivers and he
had Virgil Green open wide open over the middle, could
(15:17):
have thrown it, take the field goal, gone to overtime.
He he did not um so much. The discussion this
week has been about Drew Brees injury out, Ben Roethlisberg
out for the year, same injury, all kind of same
draft class, same age. How has Philip Rivers looked this year? Well,
he's been fine, Dug. You know. That was that was
the decision. I think he would like to have back,
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you know, And I don't want to give him an excuse,
but when you've got your your backup kicker out there,
who's already missed two very makeable kicks um in the game,
I thought maybe he was a little bit over aggressive
and it was a play that it was a throw
that's quite honestly, he made the exact same throw against
the Colts, UM that that ended up being a touchdown.
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It was the same probably poor decision in the Indianapolis game.
Um and Keen end up you kind of out muscle
on those two guys for the ball. This time he
didn't get away with it, so UM, you know that
was you know, it was a bad decision on his part.
But they fumbled on the one trying to jump over
the pile. Um, they missed a couple of field goals,
they had two touchdowns called back. I mean it was, Um,
just a lot of a lot of things for a
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very injured team that kind of uh, none of those
things really went their way. So they're a better team
in my opinion, and the Lions I think significantly better. Um.
But they didn't finish the game. Yeah they did. It's
kind of what the Chargers used to always do, always
be injured and find a way to lose, which is
something they had turned the corner with. Um. How hard
will it be against the Texans at home this Sunday? Well,
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I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be
a very good opponent. You know, after watching their tape
and studying the Texans but you know the fun thing
that I've enjoyed, Doug, this is kind of a as
a lifelong scout, but to do this charges gig and
travel with the team, I think you get a totally
uh inside look at it, and um, this is a
team that's very there's a lot of veterans and very
mature and even just kind of being on the plane
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and talking with guys like they h they quickly turned
the page. Hey, put it behind you. You've got a
big one in an FC game this week in Houston,
a team that uh didn't look great offensively last week
against Jacksonville, but I thought defensively it's a really really
good group. And then you've got a dynamic player in Hopkins,
uh that you've got to worry about. So it's gonna
be a tough one. Yeah, but if they can win it,
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they get Miami, which seems like a win. And then
you know Denver, who's who's struggling at home before you
get Pittsburgh, who is going to have a backup quarterback.
So let's schedule that looked uh formidable. Now the sudden
has a chance to to get them going in the
right direction. Doug Alix show here on Fox Sports Radio.
What do you make of the timing of Eli Manning
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being benched. Well, I mean, look at a couple of
a couple of things. I think that you know, I
saw Kurt Warner had said this, and I agree with
Kurt on this point that you know, they're not the
reason they're not winning. It's not because of Eli Manning.
I mean, this roster is not are you good defensively?
They don't have any players on the outside. It's a
team that's truthfully kind of built through the running back
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that was trying to operate in a system through the quarterback,
which didn't make any sense to me. Um, but they played.
They played Buffalo last week and they got a chance
to see Josh Allen on a team that maybe doesn't
have a ton of playmakers, Josh Allen run around, makes
some plays, He's a threat as a runner that helps
the run game out and did just some more answers.
When you have an athletic quarterback, and I think on
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a team that's a little bit limited, they look at
at Daniel Jones his ability to move around and create
and and we'll give him a chance to expand their
offense a little bit. And uh, with his athletic ability
and give them a better chance. So I guess I
understand why they did it, and I think you can
understand why they did it and say, you know, look,
this is not the I wouldn't pen this all on
Eli Manning. Um, he's going to get into the Hall
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of Fame. I think that's a silly discussion. I do
think it's a smart discussion to say, in reality, should
he Should he get in the offense? In my opinion, yes, um,
just because you know people always say a lot of
times you hear people say, well you gotta be one
at one point time, you after one of the three
or four best. I don't think he would get under
the end of that criteria. But I think when you
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look at the giant of our with no pun intended,
the team that's run the NFL for twenty years now,
however long it's been, and he slayed him twice, I
think that does count for something. I think that that
is what's going to get him ultimately into the Hall
of Fame. And I have no problem with it. I
think that's a you know, those are major accomplishments. What
he was able to get done in those two big games.
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Dania Jeremiah moved. The six is the podcast, NFL Network
is his home, plus you can hear about the Chargers
radio network. He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. We started talking about Cam
Newton only two million dollars in dead cat money. They
don't run him around the goal line last Thursday, right
when they're trying to try to win the game. Um,
he's more banged up than than than people had realized.
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And you know, and you make him into a thrower,
he's still kind of Cam Newton. What do you think
ultimately is the future for Cam Newton in Carolina? Well,
you know, I don't want to be too out front
on this and premature, but it just feels like this
could be one of those situations where it's a clean
sweep after the year with Carolina, you know, you've got
a relatively new owner. UM, I could see it being Okay,
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this is our time, let's turn this thing over. Now.
We made a run to the super Bowl with Cam,
but that's behind us. Now it's gonna be a new
general manager, new head coach, new quarterback and start fresh. Um,
that's what it kind of feels like. I'd be surprised
if if we see a similar version of Cam to
what we've seen this year, if if he was their
quarterback going to the next season. It just feels like
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it's time to try and start fresh and start something
new there in Carolina, Dana Jeremiah joining us. The Miami
Dolphins are historically bad already minus ninety two point differential.
You're gonna see him in a couple of weeks in
in Miami. How hard is this going to be recovered?
From We were reading some stuff Warren sharp Suit does
that football analysis, you know, sharp football, and he's like, look,
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this so bad it may take years to recover. I
look at this as like the Hoaston Astros. Yeah you're bad,
but you're gonna draft a ton of guys and just
completely turn over the roster. How hard do you think
this is gonna be recovered from year to year? Well,
it's a long way to travel. But they're gonna have
a lot of assets, so you know, and everybody looks
at the number of picks they have. Now that number
is gonna grow, Dug. They're gonna end up trading back
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on a couple of those and it'll be a whole
host of picks. Um. But when you look at at
some of these these situations around the league, when you
don't have the core positions taken care of, UM, I really,
you know, I can understand why they're going in the
direction that they're going, especially you know, the Minka the
Minka move. If he's not playing corner for you, you know,
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you go out try and find a couple of corners, tackles,
pass rushers like that's what they're gonna be tasked with,
as well as obviously first and foremost finding their future quarterback.
So I don't I wouldn't want to. I would, personally,
if you look at it from a fan perspective, take
the personnel side out of it. Um, you know, I mean,
I don't want to watch as set have an eight
nine win team every year when I'd I'd rather, you know,
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roll the dice, try and start over and see if
you can and hit the lottery. Here, I tend to
agree with you. Everybody says that they want competitive, but
what they really want is a great team, and sometimes
it takes a while to build. What happens with Jalen Ramsey, well,
to me, that look, the Philadelphia Eagles make a lot
of sense to me. Um, that's a classic Howie Rosemond
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type move. Um, it's a need for them. Um, I
think he would fit into their culture. Um, that one,
to me makes a lot of sense. And and uh,
I would say the other two teams that makes sense.
Kansas City for obvious reasons, kind of go all in,
uh this year with with a team that's ready to
win a Super Bowl. And I would put the Chargers
in there, quite honestly, And that's not based off of
talking to anybody there. But when I think about his
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relationship with Derwin James, their best friends, and he's played
for Gus Bradley, they have a great relationship, and obviously
it's a position that need for the Chargers. So I
think those three teams would would make tremendous sense. But
I know it's gonna cost a lot, not just in
draft picks, but in the amount of money he's gonna want. Yep, yep,
that's that that that that's true. And they have Joey
Bosta pay next year, they gotta decide what to do
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with Melvin Gordon, uh if and when Melvin Gordon shows
back up, they get some other big decisions to make.
Daniel Jeremiah is our guest here on the Doug Gottliep
Show on Fox Sports Radio. How long till the League
catches up to Lamar Jackson. Well, that they've built it smartly. Um,
I thought last year they did not have the right
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compliments at receiver to compliment his style of play. Meaning
they need some over the top guys that could really
stretch the field your run, run, run, and be able
to hit some home runs. And I think Hollywood Brown
is the perfect fit for them. So they have a formula,
Doug I think can work now. I don't think you
gonna see him dropping back thirty times a game and
having consistent success like he's had against the two bad
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teams they've played. But if they can continue to play
good defense and run the ball. Um, they've got guys
now with the tight ends they can get over the
top when you pull the linebackers up. And now they've
got a receiver who can get over the top. I
liked way they've kind of framed this team and built
it around Lamar skills. Yeah, it is because you know
he struggles with the short underneath stuff, and they're not
really throwing short underneath and it's it's kind of, you know,
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to do what he does best. Um, you are close.
You used to work in Baltimore. What did they say
about Kyler Murray and whether that experiment will work? Well,
it's it looked exactly like I know we've had this conversation.
I distinctly remember having this conversation. I felt. I felt
this offense would really move the ball well between the twenties. UM.
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I thought once they got down inside the red zone,
when the space disappears, I was concerned about how they
were going to score, you know, and they don't have
those um you know, you're not gonna be able to
run the ball that well out of that offense when
you get down there in a condensed area and then
they don't have any just complete world beaters on the
outside at this point in time. So that was my
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concern going into the season. And I thought, that's exactly
what unfolded there in Baltimore. A ton of passing yards
between the twenties and they couldn't cash in. I told
people in Lynch Golf steel was signed. I said, hey,
I talked to the Chargers and they were like, man,
Jerry go was pretty good. From from those scrimmages. Right
then I talked to the Raiders folks and they were like, hey,
Jared Gos's pretty good. Of the things we learned last
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last week when the Rams beat the Saints. One. I've
never been a big Teddy Bridgewater guy, and there's some reason. Um.
But also like people still kind of seem that were
down on Jared Goff after signing that big deal, seemed
have gone really quiet. Yeah. No, he's a good player. Man. Look,
he's the first pick in the draft for a reason.
He's very talented. Um. I think he's comfortable and confident.
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That just continued to grow. I think having a Super
Bowl appearance last year and all the success they had, Um,
he just looked like a very confident, comfortable player back.
There isn't a scheme that fits him beautifully. Um, so
I think he's set up for success. And uh, you know,
I'm with you. I was. I liked Teddy coming in
the draft process. He was my top quarterback that year
and I didn't have he was maybe you know, fourteenth
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or fifteenth on my on my list that year, but
he was my top quarterback and very accurate. I just, man,
when I saw in the preseason this year seen him
in person, was not impressed. And then I saw Taysom
Hill come in and I know it's the preseason, but man,
you've you've got a lot to deal with there as
a defensive coordinator. I would imagine, you know, with them
being a win now mode, they will not give a
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long lease there to Teddy. If it does not click
right away, do you throw Taysom Hill out there? You
almost kind of scrap your traditional offense, try and run
the ball and play defense until Drew Brees comes back.
And by the way, Tom Brady was limited in today's
practice with the calf injury. Just sort aware calf injury. Interesting, Yeah,
calf injury. Bad week for older quarterbacks. Huhm, But that's
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what the older quarterbacks do, right, they get hurt. Time
Bomb ticky ticking ticking time bomb is absolutely positively correct. Um,
all right, let's let's move around the league just just
a little bit more. Doug gotlip show. You're listening to
Daniel jeremiahs our guest. Download the Move the Sticks podcast.
It's a really good one. When did when did Russell
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Wilson switch over into being one of the top five
guys in the league, Like I every game seems to
come down to him running around back there and making
a play. But the virtuoso performance he put on in Pittsburgh,
is that just the case of Pittsburgh not playing that
well or has has Russell kind of turned into one
of these lead couple of guys. He's he is up
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there at the top. I mean, he is fantastic. And uh,
you know one thing I will I will give Russell
a lot of credit because I've heard, you know, the
stories of him in the off season and how regimented
he is. I mean, every minute is accounted for um
and uh, he has really put in the work and
you've seen, I mean, Doug, it's a trend line man.
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You've seen just every year steady improvement with him. And uh,
you know, I always say early on with young quarterbacks,
it's it's it's a it's a key that they have
some mobility so they can use their legs to get
themselves at us in trouble. That defense is present until
they can get enough time and experience where and then
they can use their mind to be able to get
out of those situations. And I think Russell is in
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that sweet spot right now where he still has all
that mobility, Doug, but now he's got the head knowledge
of what defenses are trying to do. So he's got
the answers with both his legs and his brain. Um,
and that is scary. I mean, I don't know how
long he'll stay in this sweet spot. Before you know,
the legs start to go a little bit and he's
got to rely solely on what he's doing upstairs. But
right now he has everything. Uh. Is the Garoppolo thing real? Like?
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I know they haven't played top level of competition, but uh,
but aside from the turnovers, Um, he's starting to put
up some numbers and they are too. And oh and
there are high expectations of this Niner team. I'm oning
what your assessment of Jimmy Jesus is. Well, I think
he looks good and I think he's gotten better on
a second week. I'm I'm a Garoppolo guy, but I
think the main story there if you look at that
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fort team, first of all, the defenses will front is
really good. But the second thing is Doug. Look at
the way they ran the ball. Look at the Shanahan tree,
look at the way he runs the ball. Look at
the way la Fleur is getting the Packers to run
the ball a little bit better. UF. You look at Kubiak,
who comes from the whole Shanahan system. Look what he's
done for Minnesota's ground game. At Dalvin Cook. Like, why
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everybody in the NFL does not run just outside zone
is a mystery to me. Those guys all run it
every year. Yeah, you see, even even the even the
Rams ran in a ton, right, I mean just against
against against the Saints. Say it's like student body left,
student body right, you know, push it to the edge
and then you know, maybe one cut and and off
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we go, and it seems to be something that works.
You mentioned Green Bay. It was a little back and
forth between the floor and Aaron Rodgers two weeks in.
What do you think of the new offense. I think
it's still a work in progress. I think the best
thing going for them is UM as well as their
defense is playing right now. And as a nice job
as they've done building that defense, Uh, they're gonna be
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afforded some time here before they figure out that. You know,
where they what they want to do, and who they
want to be offensively, So UM it would be enhanced
if you're losing tames and still trying to find your footing.
But man, it does take a lot of pressure off
when you're when you're finding ways to win games where
you're still figuring things out. Do you think Kaepernick gets
a call? Man, it's somebody you know I saw somewhere
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to the days. It's been like four years? Is that
how long it's been. It has been a long time.
Realized that much time had elapsed. Um, I mean you
look at it always like we always say it only
takes one team, right, But but isn't it Usually Like
there's an article in USA today where it's like, well,
people only call who they know, Like the guy he
knows is Greg Roman in Baltimore, and one they don't
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need to back up they have one. And secondly, like
he's Sully that relationship with it with his girlfriend's I
g like, that's the way you have to bring in
somebody who might know your system and the only system
that he seemingly would be comfortable with, that's a place
he can't go. Yeah, it's it's a fair point. It
just to me, it's it's given the point now where
it's like the length of the layoff, you know, and
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I don't know all the particulars of who's you know
called him over the years, and you know you hear stories,
Oh he didn't want to be a backup, you want
to be a starter. I don't. I don't have all
that information. I just know that at this point in
time there is a has a long layoff to bring
somebody in, no question about it, Daniel Jeremiah. We'll get
what you think about the Houston Texans next week as
you see him in person against the charges of the meantime,
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thanks so much for joining us. Thanks bud see Man
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