Lamar Jackson is not the NFL MVP

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Lamar Jackson is not your m v P, even if
he played like it yesterday. Plus Trent Dilfer is our guest,
so too is Greg Berdard. How much concern should we

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have about the New England Patriots? And is Adam Gaze
a one and done in New York with the Jets?
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Um man. We have a ton to get to. We
are a good sizeable amount to get to. Where to begin?
Where to begin? Where to begin? Oh, how about Lamar
Jackson for m v P, m b P, m b P.
Because Lamar Jackson was in fact really good last night.

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And they jumped on the New England Patriots and for
a time they're held on and end up finishing and
vanqu vanquishing the beast. That's what they did. Um. And look,
I'm I'm not gonna sit here and tell you Lamar
Jackson didn't play well, didn't do most everything that was

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needed in order for his team to win. That would
be silly for me to tell you otherwise, right, it
would be. And the Patriots, who had one of the
best defenses statistically in football, and we've we talked about this,
like how good were they? How good were they actually
because of the teams in which they played against. But

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the Patriots they get down seventeen and nothing. The defense
looked confused. They cut it to seventeen thirteen at the
half um, and the Patriots are marching down the football field,
marching down the football field with uh to start the
second half down seventeen thirteen. So they're either gonna trail

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by one, take a field goal, or they're gonna take
the lead. And at the thirty nine yard line, jule
excuse me. At the thirty yard line, Julian Edelman catches
the ball going to the ground, fumbles, it's picked up
and run back for a touchdown. Patriots actually marched back

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and cut it to four. And that's where Lamar Jackson
really looks special. You know, he never once got worse
than first and ten. They were ahead of the chains
the first time they The longest they had was third
and seven, and they scored a touchdown and started into twenty.
And that's kind of all she wrote. Really is Tom
Brady through an interception. So I'm not gonna sit here

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and tell you that Lamar Jackson wasn't terrific last night,
played really good football. Here's Earl Thomas, his starting safety.
I'm right with the crowd. I mean it, like man,
this man is the m v PS. Uh. I'm right
behind him. I'm backing him. Uh. You know, he makes
my job easier. And you know when you finish the
game like that, man, it's it's just a sour relief

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again on us, us on defense. If we ain't gotta
be had a pressure on us. We don't want the
pressure now, but if if it comes to it, we'll
we'll we'll deal with it. But it's good when those
guys couple last words. Okay, listen, Lamar Jackson was good.
Hundred sixty three yards passing, okay, but he only threw
three balls seventy and twenty three, which is really accurate,
especially for him, and he he he ran the football,

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He ran the offense, um they survived their own turnovers.
He had sixty one yards rushing. The best was an
eighteen yards scramble which he made. It. Dudes look like
he was Mike Vick Part two. But we need to
stop with the m v P because the Ravens fans
want him to be the m v P. Stop it.

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The same Ravens fans boot him off the football field
the last game of the playoffs for the Ravens last year.
Same people because they saw his limitations and they were
frustrated by it. Why aren't they throwing the ball more
because he's not accurate, He's gotten more accurate. We're not
handing him the m v P because he's not the
most valuable player in the NFL. He's not close. He's

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actually shouldn't be in the conversation. All this is is
is Twitter America and idiots on TV go. Well, you know,
people thought he should be a wide receiver. No, that's
that's actually not what took place. They asked him to
run some rounds. They asked him to run a forty.
He decided not to. He wanted to be a quarterback. Well,

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he was so underrated to come out of college, dude,
he won the Heisman Trophy, was a first round pick
like Tom Brady split time as a senior, was a
sixth round pick. That's underrated. A first round pick who
wins the Highsman Trophy is not. He wasn't accurate in college.
He wasn't accurate his first year and for the most
part this year against good team, decent defenses. He hadn't

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been terribally accurate underneath and and against his own against
his own looks, and last night he was. No one
ever said he wasn't an NFL quarterback. The question was
could he be a quarterback long term? I will gain
him the m v P Award if we forget about
the day that Deshaun Watson had the season. Deshaun Watson

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has head Like anything you can say about Lamar Jackson,
that's great. He's better than so far has been better
than we thought he could be. That doesn't make him
the m v P of the league. Like wait, well,
Lamar Jackson, He's way more accurate than sure percent completion percentage.
Deshaun Watson's completing seventy of his balls. He's starting for

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yards and eighteen passing TVs and only thrown five interceptions.
Like Deshaun Watson is better in every category, Russell Wilson
is better in every category. Twenty two passing TVs and
one interception. And if you've seen the Seahawks, they're not
a good football team, but they got Russell Wilson. The

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Baltimore Ravens are a good team. They arguably have the
best kicker in the league, one of the best defensive
the league, the best running game in the league, and
a quarterback who runs a unique offense that's hard to
prepare for. And over the last two weeks against pretty
good teams, we'll call Seahawks, who are a borderline playoff team,
a pretty good team. And against the Patriots, remember they're
off of by the Ravens are off of bye. They

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two weeks prepared for the Patriots. They look good at home.
But if you think the Browns are bad football team.
This team lost to the Browns with him at quarterback,
and he was a big reason why because he kept
turning the football over. If you think the Chiefs have
a good defense, you're alone. And he looked like a

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below average quarterback against the Chiefs. Like we'll look at
the yard through four, go back and watch the game.
You're like sixty yards on miracle completions. He was bad
by anyone's account. He just hucked it up there and
they made a play twice, and without those two, his
completion presentage was bad. I'm not telling you he's bad.

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I'm telling you the running always gets hit and always
gets hurt. How do I know this because I have
a brain and I've watched and the throwing gets and
we're doing the same thing we did with maybe with
k Newton when he won the m v P. Which
is the team's good. The teams better than we thought.
They dominate running the football, they play against the softer
schedule than we thought they'd played against. I mean, listen,

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they beat the Dolphins, the Cardinals, who both suck. They
beat the Steelers, who aren't good, the Bengals who are terrible,
and the Seahawks who probably don't make the playoffs, maybe
they do. And the Patriots so so far they have
one win over a shore Fire playoff team, which, by

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the way, is what happened with Cam Newton won the MVP.
He's not having a better year than are In Rogers.
He's not having a better year than Deshaun Watson. He's
not having a better year than Russell Wilson. He's not
having a better year than uh than Christian McCaffrey. Like
I could keep going the fact that he plays on
a good team and they execute a game plan and

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they got a lead and kept the lead and stayed
ahead and did all the right things and played a
mere perfect game off of bye home against the Patriots
team that had a shorter week. Prepare like that that
that's not an m v PM. And I'm not taking
the Ravens fans word for it, because the same Ravens
fans wanted him wanted him out as quarterback last year.

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So we we do this, We react to like some
form of media, social media or regular media saying the
guy is gonna stick. Like, no, what we're telling you is,
for the last thirty years we've been told a running
quarterback is going to be the way of the future.
And from Rando Cunningham, who had some high highs and
some low lows, to Mike Vick, same thing to Vince Young.

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This is this is really tebow time meets Cam Newton. Kay,
and here's what I mean. Hey, when tebow time happened
and they went on that run and they want a
playoff game against Pittsburgh Steelers, it was the same game plan,
running unique offense, shorten the game. Remember the Ravens only
had the ball once, uh this see me twice in

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the second half, and both times they had fourteen play drives.
It's stay ahead of the change, run the football zig
when they zag, you had the best kicker in football,
play your defense short in the game. And that absolutely
works for a short period of time, but eventually people
catch up to it. But please don't tell me he's

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having a better year than Russell Wilson. Please don't tell
me he's having a better year than Aaron Rodgers. Please
don't tell me he's having a better year than Deshaun Watson.
Just because he's running the football and throwing the football
recently at a higher clip does not mean he'll do
it over a long and sustained period of time. It

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when they beat the Seahawks, he had some great runs.
He was nine for twenty. That's what he's going to
have to do throughout his career. Like, look, if you
want to use numbers and go like, well he was
awesome and wins, that's fine, but then you have to
put Kirk Cousins in your m VP debate. Kirk Cousins,
by the way, while he struggled at times against can

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City Chiefs, did have three touchdowns and no interceptions. And
the fact is that if they could cover Tyreek Hill,
he would have won that game. The same game without
Pat Mahomes, that quarterback that the Baltimore Ravens lost. So
I don't think anyone who really steps back and takes

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a look at it thinks one that he played poorly,
but too that he's the m v P. The most
valuable player in the entire league is not or even
in the discussion Lamar Jackson. He's having a good season,
a better second season than many of his contemporaries. Some

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of that is the organization, some of that is the coaching.
Some of that is the style by which they play
and the schedule that they play against. That's a reasonable discussion,
and that's giving reasonable amount of credit to a young
player who we have to see how he develops and evolves.
All right, coming up next, you've heard the best case scenario?

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What about worst case scenario? That's where we are with
the Browns. I'll prove it to you next. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. When when
you guys, um think about things like stop and think
about things like what could happen? Do you think about

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you legitimately think about the bad things that could happen?
Are only the good? Like? Do you think best case
scenario or worst case scenario? What? What is your normal process?
Ran music? What's your normal process? I I try to
think of both, but um, usually I guess I would
say I would probably try to avoid aid a worst

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case scenario. Well, I mean doesn't everybody try and avoid
worst case? Well? That's what I'm saying is I try
to think of both, but in most cases I go, Okay, well,
what would be the worst case scenario? And how likely
is that? Because we should be avoiding that as much
as we're trying to attain the best case scenario. Um, okay, Ramos,
what you're generally a very positive I am very positive.
But I agree with Ryan. I I'm always looked at

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what's the worst thing that could possibly happen here and
hopefully go from there. Um, all right, what about you,
Dan Buy are you the best? You do you think
of the worst thing? Yeah? I think it's easier to
think of the worst than what could happen. Okay, So
when the Browns this season, when we saw the early schedule,
we saw Odell Beckham Jr. We saw Freddie Kitchens, Like,

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what was the worst case scenario you envisioned? Um? I
thought maybe like a six in tend season, you know,
like that they weren't as good as they were last year.
Uh okay, which which they'd be lucky to get to
six and ten. Now, what about you, Ryan Music, what
what did you What was your worst case scenario that

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you had kind of going on in your mind? Yeah?
I was thinking just them missing the playoffs would have
been really bad considering all of the expectations that would
have been coming into the season. So I didn't really
think about a specific record as much as just them
not making the playoffs would have been bad. Well, I mean, look,
this was a stretch where you thought, okay, at Ravens

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at Niners, by the way they beat the Ravens, Like
that's the crazy part about it. They beat the Ravens
on the road at Niners, Seahawks at home, at Patriots,
at Broncos, and you would have thought yourself like, man,
that's a tough stretch. Worst case scenario was you had
a head coach that looked like he was in over

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his head. You had a team full of personalities that
wanted attention in one of the football You had an
undisciplined team because the head coach wasn't a proven commodity
and didn't feel like he was heavy handed, and you
had at your mayfield regrets instead of progress. Right, all
of that has happened, literally, all of it has happened.

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Like you caven make the excuse like the Chargers. I
don't know how many you guys watch the Charger game yesterday. Um,
the Chargers kicked the hell out of the pet Packers
Like that was a complete and throw as shopping. They
got the ball and had a fifteen play drive a
lot like the Ravens right where they dominated time with
possession so much that it was an uphill battle for

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the Green Bay Packers. And I mean they just, uh,
they just had a choke hold on that game. Rogers
couldn't get time to throw the football. When he did
have time, nobody seemed to get open outside Davante Adams.
They couldn't dominate and run the football. They got off schedule,
they couldn't stop the run. And Philip Rivers, who hasn't
played great most of the year, played exceptional football what

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was really really sharp. But the Charges at least can say, hey, look,
we lost Derwin James, who might be our most talented player.
I we didn't have Russell O Kung, who's our left
tackle until the last game and a half. We we
didn't have our starting running back because because he was
holding out, and when he came back until yesterday, he

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did not look like the Melvin Gordon was the pro
bowler um we had troubled with our right tackle. We lost.
We lost Hunter Henry, like we lost Denzel Perriman, like
we had. At least the Charger can say we played
everybody close and injuries. You can't say that with Cleveland.
Like literally, the star players you're thinking of have all

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been healthy. They've just not played well. And the worst
case Stereo was things would go bad and the finger
point he would start and Odell Beckham Jr. On fourth
and fourth thought he was open, Walks over to the sideline.
J feel he's covering the game for CBS and he says,
whether he said to Feely or Feely overheard him, I
can't get the ball to save my life, which I

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understand that happens. I know he's a wide receiver. I
should point out that throwing a jump ball to a
guy in fourth and fourth is not a shot fire
first down or touchdown, Like I get it. That might
have been the read, but uh, Jarvis Landry was past
the sticks and open, and that was probably even though
there's two guys around him, a better pass, a better catch,

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and we're not having this conversation. He here's Baker Mayfield
talking about Odell Beckham Jr. Obviously, you know, we see
what type of game changing plays that he can make.
Have to continue to try and get in the ball.
But at the same time, when teams do want to
take you know, numbers, we have to play the numbers
game a little bit, and he understands that, and he's
frustrated because we're losing. We all are. The numbers game

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means like, look, if you put two guys on him,
this math tells you to somebody else is going to
be open. Somebody else is going to be open. I
mean Mayfield with the uh with the overcoat, the trench coat. Look,
I know the mode the mustaches from Mobile bur But man,
he looks puffy. He looks like like the like the president.

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You know, President ages you like every year ages you
five years. That's what's happened with Baker Mayfield. And this
is I think if we were to write down what's
the worst case scenario for the Browns, this would be
it that they're all healthy but seriously unhappy. And now

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you gotta all right, do we get rid of Freddie Kitchens?
Here's Freddy Kitchens on his job status. He really doesn't
concern me. It's not my decision and I've never worried
about it before, and don't worry about it now, and
I don't worry about it in the future. I'll just
do the best job I can do. What Why do
people say that? Why do we insist on saying that, like, hell, yeah,

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I'm worried about losing my job. We haven't played well.
This is my first shot. We have a talented everybody
thinks we have talent, and we've underachieved. I just bought
a big house. Everyone's happy at home, and I may
have to walk back in there at the end of
the season go like, hey, kids, pack up, We're moving

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to Jersey, right, that's the reality of it. Why can't
anybody just be real and just go like, hey, yeah,
I'm concerned. Yeah I shouldn't be. Shouldn't be something I'm
thinking about, but I am because we're playing like craft stuck,
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And Trent Hilford joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh,
Trent Um, we've gone from. Can Lamar Jackson sustained this
long term too? Because they played so well against the Patriots.
Now he's in the m v P discussion. Give me
your true football take on Lamar Jackson as of today.

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Let's say somewhere in between those two things. I think
it is sustainable model. If we've talked about last week,
If you're willing to continue to lead with him as
a runner, I think that's what creates the most issues,
is him as a runner as a rule breaker NFL offense,
you saw it's the easiest way I think about is

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when they ran the option last night and the unblocked
defender didn't know whether to take the runner or the
pitch guy. I mean that that's just something the NFL
teams don't typically have to work on. Well, what that
does it forces you into what we call define looks.
In the secondariae, you have to recruit an extra defender
down now, now you're either playing cover one or cover zero. UM. Now,
the quarterbacks an advantage to know what defensency's getting before

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the ball is snap um. And if you're willing to
do that, this is gonna be very difficult. You're gonna
see three tight ends. Often do you see three tight ends.
You're gonna get extra linebackers on the field matched up
on those tight ends. And you gotta go on and
on and on just about some of the tactical advantages
it brings you. Now saying all that is still gonna
come down to the third and six in the playoffs,
and he's gonna have to drop back and get through

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a full field reprogression and complete the ball. And he's
getting better at that, and the better he gets at
that in the closer to the m v P is
But until you can do that consistently, he's just a
dynamic weapon playing quarterback. I know you're a little gunshy
because of well the Kansas City thing. I know is
that five years ago whatever, But that offense, that offense

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didn't look great. He is forty two. Uh, you don't
have to prematurely call the death of Tom Brady's football
playing career. But how alarming was what you saw against
that Ravens defense. They have their short you know, they
have their challenge unches. Um. I don't think there's extreme

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as they may have looked last night. I think that
the left tackle situation has to get better and I
think it will um through development and through when the
other tackle comes back. I do think there's scheme things
you can do. They try to play a lot of
empty last night, so you can't really help your left
tackle with the tight end or back. They're famous for
finding ways to help protect an offensive lineman. Um. I

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think some new is just getting into the fold. So
there's stuff he's good at, but it's not probably the
full repertoire what he can offer him. I still think
Dorset is a very very good player that they need
to utilize more and I think they will as they
go on, and then ultimately they have to run the
ball better. UM. I think whether Tom's forty two or
thirty five, any quarterback is always going to be better

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when they're balanced offensively. If they're balanced offensively, they'll be
better long term. I'm not as concerned. You know, they're
they're still one of the best teams, if not the
best team in the NFL. They usually find a way
to fix their little temporary setbacks, and I believe they
will in this situation as well. Trying to deal for

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our guests in the Doug gottleb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Are you still a buyer in Sam Donald? I am?
I really am. Now, that was a horrible interceptional through
in the red zone. Um, I think there's it's a
very dysfunctional situation. I don't I'm not a buyer with it.
Maybe this existing staff or the way it's going. I

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am a buyer with his talent. His resilience is gret um,
and he needs to play more. I think we can't
write a guy off this early into his career. He's
missed some time. I still think at the end of
this year, early in the next season is when we'll
start seeing who Sam Donald really is. But at this
point I am a belivious because I know the kid,
and I know he's made what he's made up of,

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and I know his talent. Sometimes it's bigger than the
player itself. It's this situation he's in. Trying to deal
for our guest on the Doug Outlet Show. Okay, so
is it Gaze that's the bad fit that I'm not
sure about. Again, I'm not as quite down as I
once was. Um. I really like their offensive coordinator Doal

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Logan's he's done a good job in the past where
he's been. UM. I think Gaze, it doesn't It doesn't
have the right feel to it right now. I'm just
an outsider looking and it doesn't look right. It doesn't
sound right. Things coming out of there, UM don't sound right.
I also think they're not very good offensively. I think
it's really good, you know, spit ball on offense together

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when you don't have a lot of talents. I think
that's that's part of it too. They don't block very
well in the run game for a very good runner,
and they don't really have a lot of people to
throw the ball too. So I still think they're looking
to develop some of these young players as a future playmakers,
and they have to find what their identity is offensively,
and obviously they have not done that yet. How savable

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How savable is the Brown season? I don't think it is. Um,
you know, it's they're finding a way to lose. I mean,
when you go one in five in the Red zone,
oh and two on fork down, you win the turnover battle,
you win the time of possession, your defense play is great.
You still lose to a team that you should be

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for the backup quarterback. I mean, you're finding a way
to lose. And when you start finding a way to lose,
a new way to lose each week. I don't think
you don't sprinkle magic dust on that and it gets
better the next day or the next week. I think
they're in for a very rude weak and I think
they're in for an eight and eight season at best,
and that's if they rally and play really, really good.

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So I think it's a little bit of the anti
Patriots model, where the Patriots do everything I can to
avoid the noise. I think the Browns, for one, said,
oh my gosh, I'm finally good looking. It's like the
awkward teenage girl with braces and acne, and then the
next year she has beautiful teeth and her skin clears
up and she grows four inches and all of a
sudden she wants to start taking a lot of Instagram

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of pictures of herself and posting how pretty she is. Well,
that's kind of the brown you know, They're the ugly
duckling forever, and everybody started calling them pretty, and they
sure to embrace that. We are pretty mentality. And I
think they embraced the noise and staid and ignoring the noise.
I thought it was a perfectly executed game plan by
the Chargers. Uh they got the ball and had a

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fifteen play drive. Aaron Rodgers had I think three plays
in the first quarter, and between pressuring Aaron Rodgers and
keeping him off the football field, obviously, the Chargers completely
and thoroughly dominated the Packers. But what's more concerning their
their offenses inability to kind of get on track they
felt like they slept walk in the first half, or
their defense is inability to get out the field. I

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would be more conservative. Defense is what we talked about
last week. That's why about a full believer in the Packers.
I think Petton scheme is a week to week scheme
that can be really hot or they can get dashed.
I think they walked into a difficult situation after a
more shroll Sunday night victory against Kansas City where he
kind of expended all the energy you have. You get

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to what were they seven and one and now I
got to go West Coast to face. The team doesn't
look very good on paper, but as a veteran defensive
coordinator and gust Bradley that knows how to defend this
type of offense, has done it many times as a
veteran quarterback in Philip Rivers and Street in every game
like it might be his last game in his Hall
of Fame career. Um, this is somewhat of one of
those what I'd call aberration games. But it's the same

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thing I've been saying about the Packers. Like listen, I
like them. I would call him contenders in the NFC,
but I'm not like full buying they're the best team
because of this defensive scheme. It's a feast for famine
scheme and and veteran UM veteran coaches know what he's
about and know how to attack it. Trying to deal
for our guests in the Doug Alive Show on Fox

(27:50):
Sports Radio, you mentioned before that the Bears have lost
confidence in Mitch Drobiskie. Um, is this situation fixable? Uh?
I mean it's rough, man. I mean they're just sticking
to it. They're being stubborn with it. Almost it's a
good football team. It's a good roster that's being held
back by their quarterback. Now, if you're willing to do

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one more year of this and underachieved to play the
long game and uses as a development here and then
you're really rolling the dice in terms of your locker
room vibe and you're together this as a football team.
But if if he can hold him together, why they
developed a risky then it will pay off long term.
But you're kind of you're kind of holding your team
hostage while doing that. All right, tonight is Dak versus

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Daniel Jones. Um, let's let's start with Daniel Jones. What
impresses you about Daniel Jones with this much uh, this
much of a case study, you know I was wrong
on Daniel Jones. Um. I didn't know he was this
kind of tough. I didn't know he had this kind
of field vision, Like he has really good eyes. He
sees it, he sees a boundary to boundary. Very few guys,

(28:57):
just I don't know how I missed this in this evaluation. Um,
he's a much better quarterback uh than I evaluated coming
out of Duke. And I'm not afraid to admit when
I'm wrong. Um, he's got it when it comes to
just that quarterback instinct, those quarterback guys, and he's gonna
make mistakes. The second half of the season I think

(29:18):
will be a rocky road for him. But he makes
a lot of big time decisions, big time throws, throws
guys open um, gun barrel, toughness, bounces back from mistakes.
Like if you're just like looking at a young quarterback, Okay,
what am I looking for? Us see if they have sustainability.
I mean he's kind of checked all those sustainability boxes

(29:38):
early on in this season. I've been really really impressed
by him. Uh, Dak Prescott obviously, when he has his
book end tackles, when he has Zeckie Elliott, when he
has all those weapons, he looks he looks pretty good. Um,
and we've seen him against this Giant's team in the past.
But what's your oppression of of of of Dak Prescott
now that we've seen another season of work with kind

(30:01):
of a mixed bag of who's healthy. I'm a big
believer in Doc, I have been from day one. I
think he's got again all this stuff we have talked
about with Daniel Jones. Doc has it in spades. Also,
I think Dak's greatest ability is his self belief. It's
his toughness mentally and physically. He's become a much better thrower,

(30:23):
especially in must pass downs. And they've built the right
kind of personnel around him. I think every quarterback needs
a certain type of personnel around them, that kind of
their quarterback d n A and they have it, you know,
really strong run game when their tackles are healthy. Run
action is something he's very good at. Movement passes um.
You know, you don't want Dak dropping back and reading

(30:44):
the reading boundary to boundarys a game, but I can't
think of more than four or five guys in the
league that you would want to have do that. So
they supported him really well. I think he is better
with big receivers than he has little receivers, and he's
got some big receivers. I think went and although he
hasn't been massively impactful this year, is probably kind of
that blankie for him, that comfortable blankie for him. I

(31:09):
think that helps him a lot. So, I mean, I
think Doc is a franchise guy now, as he shouldn't
be the highest pay guy in football. No, so I
think he's a franchise guy and they've done a really
nice job going around them. Awesome stuff. All right, get
your whistle back on and go out and uh and
uh lay into some guys and we'll talk to you
very very soon. T D thanks for being our guest.
Thanks pleasures on my Doug Gotlie Show Fox Sports Radio.

(31:32):
Coached uh my sixth grade team we want to tournament
championship this weekend. I will admit I got a technical
foul and I deserved it. Um No. I did not
curse at the refer at any of my players. I
just got upset and I actually tried to get a
t at one point in the game and they wouldn't
give it to me. I was like on the court,

(31:54):
like please call those hand checks whatever. It was just
very very physical game. But one of my best players
I drove in and I've been telling them like you
you know you you drive to light and you know
past when you see darkness kind of thing, and we're well,
you always look to kick to the opposite side of
the courts for the week side of the court. And

(32:14):
I'm bad turning over in a bad situation for my
best players is just playing with his head up his bottom,
and I turned around and kicked the chair and got attend.
The ref gave me tas I have to give you
a tea. I was like, okay anyway. So I hear
those whistles in the background and talk about chewing some butts,
and I was chewing some butts this weekend myself. They're
not I'm not totally proud of myself, but not not

(32:36):
that depressed over it. The Jets lost to the tanking Dolphins.
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I got got shurows? How good thoseurows? John? They're very Yes,

(33:00):
they're like the real Turro, and they're like the turo
that you get at like an amusement park where it's
like frozen and then microwave. It's still good, right, centnamon
sugar fried all that stuff. But one has na tell
on the inside. I don't know what the other one
has pretty much just a party in your mouth right
to tell us delicious? Oh man, who doesn't like to

(33:21):
tell um, I don't know what. I don't know if
you know what it does to the environment. But anyway,
palm oil not good. Let's get to uh, let's let's
let's get to a game. This is game time Tide
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Don't worry to buy her.

(33:42):
I got something for you. I got I got this
for you, Doug. Big deal, little deal, no deal, big deal,
A little deal or no deal. That Jet said coach
Adam Gaze lost to the team that is tanking, and
that's also the same team that fired him last season.
It feels like a big deal because it was in Miami,
because of howel because of what most people don't watch

(34:04):
NFL games, they watch red zone or they get the
highlights of the thing. You're not sitting down. Who's sitting
down watching Miami versus the Jets, and Donald wasn't terrible
most of the game. He made one terrible interception. And
because they lost to Miami, which actually helps them in
the draft. Uh, but just because they generally looked and
because it's in Miami who fired him, and there's also

(34:25):
all those Snowbirds, you know, New Yorker's Jets fans that
are down there, it looks a lot worse. So that
that is a big deal. And for those that missed it.
In the postgame press or yesterday, Gates was asked this
validate decision. I'm not gonna answer. So did they lost
validate Steven Ross's decision to fire at him? Case who

(34:45):
asked that question? I'm not sure. I don't know. Like
you wonder why people hate the media, that's a that's
an awful question, Like there's no answer, there's well, I mean,
what are we doing? I think his name was John
Ramos from the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

(35:08):
Now A big deal, A little deal of no deal.
More Jets questions that the Jets asked for guards Zack
Martin from the Cowboys in a trade offer for safety
Jamal Adams, and after Jerry Jones got done laughing, did
he actually respond he? Uh, The answer was no. So like, look,
that's one of those things with Jamal Adams, you can't

(35:29):
be mad, Like, look, we gotta make our team better.
We're gonna ask for the best guard in football. That's
what we think you're worth. And I think that's a
that's a reasonable ask. I think it's interesting as well,
and by the way I write these, so I do
know what's coming up next. The issue was then Joe
Douglass of saying that they are The reports were that
they received calls, which they probably did from the Cowboys,

(35:52):
but as Jamal Adams justified him being mad, if the
Jets did ask for Zack Martin in return, I'm wondering
if that, like if maybe it's a maybe it was
the middle of the road thing, like they did call,
but the Jets did counter. Maybe the Jets countered with
something that knew the Cowboys would say no to. But
and I'm just curious on your thoughts. I I just

(36:12):
think like this is part of the job. You know,
you're you're you're sitting there trying to fix your organization
and make yourself better. They they have a quarterback, they
have no offensive line, and you know you have a
good safety. But he's a box safety. It's not like
he's like you can play him. He's not Derwin James.
He's just not. So he's a really really good player

(36:35):
for what he does. Zack Martin helps you and whatever
you do offensively, I don't think that's Zack Martin, is
I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer, but
he's on a path to being, you know, ring of
Ring of honor type of guy with Dallas Cowboys. He's
that well regarded. So I don't care how it came
about that. That seems like a fair trade or a
fair ask if if you really value somebody in Jamal Adams,

(36:59):
big deal, a little deal or no deal that the
Steelers asked the Jets about Levian Bell prior to last
week's trade deadline, that's a big deal, I'd say, bygones,
be bygones. Yeah, what can we get from Levia? What
do you does it take to get Levian Bell? I
think that's a huge thing. I was surprised to hear that,
not for a lot of different reasons, and one of

(37:19):
which was, I know James Conner was hurt, but um,
running back didn't seem to be their biggest issue. Healthy
running backs seemed to be an issue. But no, but
they I mean, look, they've always liked Levian Bell. Yeah,
they just didn't like the contract. Yeah. It wasn't like
they offered him a bad deal either, know, No, he
just he just wanted more and the Jets have already
paid a bunch of the signing bonus, so it wouldn't

(37:41):
cost them nearly as much. It's actually a really smart thing.
Big deal, a little deal or no deal that the
NFL force Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr. To change
their cleats at halftime of yesterday's game in Denver. I
think it's a big deal, but for a different reason
than maybe you're asking. I think it's a I think
it's a big deal because, um um, frankly, the the

(38:04):
idea that those guys would wear those cleats and not
have the proper plan in place when it's a big
like I get Nike sends out those cleats and they
wear them in the pregame and take pictures of it.
But like, okay, this is just like wearing the watch.
It's an unneeded distraction. You get paid to win football games,
not to wear cleats. And I think it's a big

(38:25):
deal that all this stuff is going wrong. Finally, dug,
big deal, a little deal or no deal that the
Popeye's up the streets were out of chicken sandwiches by
eleven o'clock this morning. Well, it's a bigger deal. They
were like lines for Miles. I mean the Popeye's marketing
team has been genius. I will say this, Um, I would,
just I would. I won't wait in line that long.

(38:48):
I just I'm sorry. There's nothing for a for for
a cowboy RIBI that was free. I wouldn't wait an hour.
Some guy got there at the Godlip Show. Are they
that good? I don't know, I haven't. I love Popeyes,
but I haven't had the sandwich, so I love Popeyes.
I actually know the best thing I like Popeyees other

(39:09):
than the chicken is the mashed potatoes with the Casian gravy.
That's good. That's good stuff. Are the Bears turning into
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(39:29):
listen live. What Godlap Show Fox Sports Radio. You know
I'm gonna I'm gonna disclose something that I've I've let
you guys in on, but it actually has become a reality.
Never really been a fan of a team, Nope, never

(39:53):
really been a fan of a team. Am alive right
outside of my alma mater and Royalma Monter. It's actually
more football than basketball because I because I played there,
I played for a different coach and I covered college basketball.
Like I don't really, I I like, I have so
many friends in the business and I like so many

(40:14):
of these kids that I don't find myself cheering for
any or against any teams. I don't. Just kind of like,
I want success for good people, that's all. There's lots
of them. So this kind of experience is a little
bit new to me. But uh, this has been a
hard year because I'm actually finding myself to be a

(40:35):
legit l a Charger fan. Now it fits with my
persona because I'm a bit of a contrarian if you
haven't heard, And nobody's really a Charger fan, right like
there are technically Charger fans whatever. But yesterday it was
basically lambeau Field West. And it's really important to point out,

(41:00):
like I understand that San Diegans are like, oh, stay
you see it's a joke to drop there, like, Okay,
you didn't build a stadium, stupid. The team's not gonna
stay for no stadium, and they're getting they're gonna get
a chance to play basically rent free in the best
stadium in the world, and it's gonna help their valuation.
And I don't know what I would have done, but

(41:21):
staying in San Diego. It wasn't like you're like, well, stay,
we'll build you whatever you want. But they they had
to move to an area that's predominantly Raider fans and
in southern California because there weren't NFL teams and because
some high percentage of people are from somewhere else. Anyway,

(41:43):
Like this is, by the way, what RAMS games are like.
This is what games with the Chargers were like. Just
so we're aware, Like, let's be honest, the Packers never
came to San Diego, but if they did, that's what
it would have been like. Same thing with the Steelers.
But anyway, because people don't like them, admittedly helps me
like them, love their colors, friends with a bunch of

(42:04):
people in the organization. But I'm telling you, there's nothing
like watching your team kick the dog crap out of
a good team out of Honestly, my favorite player to
watch football, which is Aaron Rodgers, Like that was something
else music you watch that whole game. I mean, how
would you in watching that game? We're texting back and forth,

(42:25):
and and how would you describe that game? I just
actually total dominance by the Chargers. Yes, you know, it's
it's one of those things where you draw it out.
We were talking about best case, worst case sterio last
hour with the Cleveland Browns, like this is basically worst
case scenario. Everything that's gone wrong for them that game yesterday,

(42:48):
outside from scoring touchdowns on their first three drives at
field goals on them was like best case sterio. Right,
get the ball, keep Aaron Rodgers out the field, three
and out, we're down the defe run the football, Melvin Gordon,
Austin Ekeler, occasionally Justin Jackson and Philip Rivers makes some
big completions. I mean, everything went right. Perfect example is

(43:12):
end of third quarter for uh, forty six seconds to
go in the get forty six seconds to go, and
um they have a they have a lead. But you
know you're always thinking, okay, you want to get three
scores ahead to beat the Packers, right, you want to
get three scores ahead. I don't know if you saw

(43:33):
this this music, but uh, there's forty six seconds ago
in the third quarter. So I turned to my son,
who as you guys know plays a little places tackle football,
plays flag football, And I said, hey, here's a little
coach that's nineteen to three at the time. They're gonna
want to run the football one last play here in

(43:53):
the third quarter so that the clock runs out, and
the whole idea is to keep Aaron Rodgers off the field.
Do you remember what they did on that play? They
faked a handoff, Mike Williams had man and man coverage,
threw it up to him. Was like a thirty six
yard completion. Excuse me, a fifty six yard completion and um.

(44:15):
In addition, like the Chargers actually made a really really
bone headed decision that I I kind of want to
ask you guys about, Like if you guys saw it,
realize it, and then we'll get to this, uh, this
thing with the Bears. So you're up nineteen to three,
you're up nineteen to three against the Green Bay Packers,

(44:37):
and you're doing the math in your head and you're like, okay,
nineteen to three, that's sixteen points two touchdowns to two
point conversions. Okay, we we need to score a third time.
So here's what happens. They get all the way down,
they drive the football all the way down to the
one to the to the one yard line, one yard line,

(45:00):
and the Packers jumped off sides, so they would have
been up twenty two to three. Now here's where they
actually made a mistake. They took the points off the board,
which are told never to do. It gave them a
three score lead, and they end up going for it

(45:20):
getting the touchdown because the Packers defense was completely out
of gas. But had they not gotten it, they would
have put losing back into the equation. It's a bad
decision anyway. It's really weird for me to watch a team,
watch a game and have any sort of emotional tie
to it, because I usually have none. Zero, Like, I

(45:45):
don't care at all. I don't care that Lamar Jackson
outplayed the Patriots last night. I don't care that Jamis
Winston did what Jamis Winston does, get a lead and
then turn the football over against Seattle. Don't care that
the Dolphins beat the Jets. But it's a weird feeling
for somebody to go like, hey, I kind of like

(46:06):
this team. This is there's our new emotions for me, guys,
help me deal with them. I thought it was interesting
in the scenario that you just laid out of. You know,
I do the show with the from salam here on
Fox Sports Radio. We had taken the listener up until
the field goal, like, well, we'll finish out this drive.
We'll we'll let you know stick. You know, we're here

(46:27):
for your third down, fourth down, al right, field goal
is good, Chargers lead twenty two to three. You know
we'll be back. And so we took our commercial break.
And then as you said, how everything unfolded, they took
the points off the board, and I thought it was
big for this simple reason. How did they lose two
weeks ago? Yes, they actually they lost a couple of

(46:47):
games at the one yard line Broncos game into the
first half. They didn't get into I look, but it
doesn't make I'm just telling you it doesn't make any
sense with the math. No correct. I said that they
should kick the field goal as they were doing it.
But that's what was so intriguing just about that of okay,
you get what a half yard closer maybe, but then
of doing that, and maybe Anthony Lynne just trying to say,

(47:10):
all right, let's let's forge. You know, we got a
new offensive coordinator. Now let's forget about the past. Let's
you know, we're not scared to go for it on
fourth and one again, or you know, to run the
ball with the half yard line. I thought that played
a lot. I thought that was a really big picture
moment at least for the rest of the season for
the Chargers. I I did too, and I was Ryan
and I were discussing this before the show. So there

(47:32):
four and five right now. This Thursday night game is massive,
massive because then they play the Chiefs in Mexico City.
They're actually gonna go train in Colorado Springs for a
week because the altitude in Mexico City. Um, but if
if you can, if you can get to five and five,
and they seem to feel like they're close to getting

(47:53):
Derwin James back, if you get to five and five
and you can stay relatively healthy, like Melvin Gordon looked
completely fresh, like where everybody help because he held out
and because he was so he basically just got done
with training camp in terms of the length of time
it took him to get in shape. And while they
do have a difficult schedule in terms of the Vikings

(48:13):
and the Chiefs on the road, they also have Broncos
on the road who aren't good Jaguars on the road
aren't good Raiders at home. And I think by then
the Raiders will come back to reality. But this is
a big game on Thursday night. If they can get
to five and five, like, that's a dangerous team because
of the talent that they have. They have legit Super

(48:34):
Bowl caliber talent. And they got Badgley back as a kicker.
I know he missed one at the end. Speaking of
the Jaguars, I I feel like I've seen this Mitch
Trabinsky story. I know how it plays out, and it's
it's it's basically the reason I told my children they
have to study history. That's up coming next. Be sure

(48:55):
to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter New and Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio in the Heart Radio app Doug Gottlieb
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So, um, we were
discussing and this would have been a better way to
do it. We're discussing, uh school. So Friday night, my

(49:17):
son had an early flag football game, and generally, like
my wife and I go to flag football. My girls
are teenagers now they're old enough to stay home, but
I've I've always been there, like, hey, you know, we
should do some stuff, and we're like, let's do a
little family night. So we the girls came to the
flag football game, brought the dog some beautiful night in

(49:40):
southern California. They won a close game against couple of
his buddies. And then there's an Italian restaurant where like, remarkably,
I actually used to take my high school girlfriend before dances.
It's like super garlic y, not crazy expensive, um Italian restaurant.
So we went there. We're and have you guys noticed

(50:01):
this with restaurants, especially not the super high end ones.
It takes so long now to get your food because
they have so many to go orders. Like people aren't
going out to restaurants as much, but they're making mobile
orders you know, Uber eats and and door dash way
more often, so the restaurants are busy. And then restaurants,

(50:22):
I don't know if they don't know how, I actually
think they do it smartly. You shouldn't handle the internet
customers faster or the those type of customers, but those
type of customers order more often, so I guess you
take care of them first. I don't know, so it
did take an exordan amount of time, kind of like
the story to uh, to get our food. So we're

(50:42):
discussing school and my kids have all come to the
realization that they don't like school, and they were talking
about the teachers. They did, like we're trying to take
spin things positive. And I was like, well, what's your
who's your favorite teacher? And they all like their history teacher.
I was like, that great, because history is an incredibly
important subject. They're like, why, Dad, you told us that

(51:05):
everything you do is gonna come down to math and reading.
What does history? I say, well, you gotta study history
because if not, you're deemed to repeat it, doomed to
repeat it too. And so I made the mistake of
talking about Napoleon, which the girls understood that the boy
did not, and about how he attacked He had a

(51:25):
war on two fronts, he attacked Russia in the winter,
and that's why he lost and ultimately lost his head, right,
And so I said, look, Hitler is the same thing.
Hitler follow war on two fronts, an attack Russian the
dead of winter. You study history so you don't repeat it.
That's the bears of Mims Robinsky right, the Bears of

(51:50):
Miss Drabinsky. The Bears built this incredible defense. I really
started with John Fox. John Fox. Not to break the
to offensive mind, okay, but they built this incredible defense.
Then they draft Mitchell Trobiski. They traded up to draft him,
and the idea was they were gonna red shirt him.

(52:13):
Remember they were gonna red shirt him, and Mike Glennan
was going to start the entire season, and Glenna didn't
like to plan. He's like someone I signed up for.
But look, John Fox was dead man walking anyway. Red
Shirt him for a year because he only started one
year in college, get him some reps as a backup,
let him understand what it's like to be a problem.

(52:34):
Maybe the end of the year you throw him in there.
But he was so good in the preseason, and Glennon
was such a mess because well, one is not a
great quarterback end two, he knew that his time was near.
They end up pulling the trigger early rather than later,

(52:56):
and after one year of success, the autom has fallen out.
Drabinski yesterday against the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Eagles don't
have a great secondary. Ten of twenty one no touchdowns,
hundred twenty five yards. It was a big drop that
could have been a huge completion for him, but it

(53:17):
was like a hundred yard completion. Ran through seven starts
this season, he's averaging a hundred and seventy three yards
passing game. That's thirty second in the NFL. There are,
in fact, thirty two teams, five point five yards of
tempt per tempt, five touchdown passes, three interceptions, the whole
stinking game. Who does that remind you of? That reminds

(53:38):
me of Blake Portles, because the whole thing when the
Jaguars drafted Blake Portals says, hey, he's not ready. He's
not ready, let's sit him for the first year. That's
what we'll do. We'll sit him for the first year,
you'll red shirt, you'll figure it out, and we'll put
him in. Do you know how many games he played
his rookie year? Fourteen red shirt him. I mean they

(54:03):
basically played him an entire season. And his second year
was his best season statistically, thirty five touchdowns, eighteen interceptions,
fort hundred yards. You're like, hey, we got something, and
then you know, he never he couldn't break six complete percentage.
He turned the ball over too much. They lost confidence

(54:26):
in him, and he lost confidence in them. They had
that one year where they got to the playoffs. That
was two years ago, but it was basically because they
ran the football and they had a great defense, and
they did it in spite of not because they were
so petrified of him making the big mistake that if
you remember they played New England in the playoffs after
beating the Steelers on the road, they get the ball
fifty eight seconds to go at the end of the

(54:47):
first half in the lead, and they took a knee.
And players can feel that, not just a quarterback, but
the rest of the team to take a Listen to
Trent Dilford earlier today talking about the Bears. I mean
it's rough, man. I mean, they're just sticking to it.
They're being stubborn with it. Almost. It's a good football team.
It's a good roster that's being held back by their quarterback. Now,

(55:08):
if you're willing to do one more year of this
and underachieved to play the long game and uses as
a development here, then you're really rolling the dice in
terms of your locker room vibe and you're together as
a football team. But if you can hold him together.
Why they developed Rabisky, then it will pay off long term.
But you're kind of you're kind of holding your team
hostage while doing that. The whistles in the background were

(55:31):
not part of the interview, but a part of the
live experience of having trained Dilferan from Lipskum Academy. Yeah. Look,
the problem with Rabinsky is this group is pot committed
to Robinsky, right, They're just like ah roll with it.
We traded up for him, We built the offense around him,
We got rid of everything else. We kept Dave or

(55:53):
agone because he was the only guy there his rookie year.
But the reason we study history is so that we
don't repeat it. And it feels like the Bears are
repeating the history of the Jaguars. Doug got the show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um gosh, I just the
more you know, the less you know. I do feel

(56:14):
like the Vikings played a great game. They just gagged
at the end. Right they had the ball. Kirk Cousins
had played well. First down, he gets the ball batted
down and then their play calling got conserved. On second down,
they try to tight end screen two to root off
that didn't work and then third down they're just I
felt like the Vikings kicked away a great opportunity, especially

(56:36):
with Packers losing, Bears losing, I mean, a chance to
get closer in the division, and they just gave that
sucker away, gave that sucker away. Um m hm. But
alas here we are. I guess if you had to

(56:58):
look at the most surprising results yesterday, it would it
would have to be. It would have to be what
happened to the Patriots. But maybe we should have seen
the signs of some of this coming. The Ravens are
at home. The Ravens are a good team. They're well coached,
they play a unique style. They came off a bye
week where the Patriots did you know, had a shortened week,

(57:21):
and and there was a little fool's goal to the Patriots, right,
not just the strength of their schedule, but they've played
against them young, uh, some inexperienced quarterbacks along the way,
which Lamar Jackson is, but like, let's not, let's be honest,
Lamar Jackson's not back there going through you know for
progression reads, still jumping out to a seventeen nothing to lead,

(57:42):
making the Patriots play catch up, which they nearly did.
It's problematic for the Patriots. Greig Baddard joins us. He's
a founder of the Boston Sports Journal, covers the entire
NFL for the Las Vegas Review Journal. Fall on Twitter
at greg A Badard. Um, the same Ravens fans that
booed Lamar j acts and last year in the playoffs
were chanting m v P. I don't think he's having

(58:05):
anywhere close to the season of the legit MVP candidates.
Am I overdoing it with the reality I'm trying to
throw on the Lamar Jackson talk today? Well, I mean,
I don't know if I would go that far. I mean,
you know, look, he's doing it in a different way.
But the way that he's played at this point, especially
the last two weeks again on the road in Seattle

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and then against uh an excellent Patriots defense. Uh, he
deserves to be in the m v P UH talk. Now,
you know that being said, and this is not too
you know, downgrade the Ravens victory last night because they
deserved it. Um. They pushed the Patriots around on both

(58:47):
sides of the ball, both sides of the line, and
uh they bowled him at times. But I think that, Look,
a lot of things went right for the Ravens last night.
I mean, you know from the bye week too, you know,
and you knew Greg Roman was going to have a
great script coming out the seventeen nothing lead. Yes, the
Patriots got some breaks with the two fumbles, but you know,
if Julian Edelman doesn't and he never fumbles, if he

(59:09):
doesn't fumble there, they're probably going in and taking the lead.
And it's a completely different ball games. And we and
we'd find out what Lamar Jackson can do, because it's
different when you're behind. The sticks are behind in general, absolutely,
I mean, you know that's the formula for Lamar Jackson
and the Ravens winning was last night. And you know,
look he even had balls getting clanked off of helmets
and and tipped and those you know, not one of

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them went into a Patriot's hands where normally it does.
And if that happens, you know who who knows? But
you know, I think that, um, a lot of things
went right for the Ravens, um and if if they
played them again, um, I think I think it would
be not much different. It would still be a great game,
and it could go either way. But I don't think

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Lamar Jackson would have quite the amount of success that
he did it. Honestly, Like I saw the Charger game
on Thursday night in person and then I was in Stark.
Contrast to the Charger game against the Ravens in the playoffs,
where they figured they saw it once, they figured it out,
and he really really struggled against them the second time around. Yeah,
I mean, I think you can make the case. And

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I think Teddy Bruski twoted something about this, uh during
the game, is that you know, I don't know. I
think the Patriots needed to play the Ravens and have
this type of game to beat them in the playoffs
if they if if they do match up. I think
if the Patriots saw the Ravens for the first time
around in the playoffs, even if it was at Gillette
and say the a f C Championship game, I think

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the Patriots would have lost. But now that they've seen it,
now that they've played against Lamar Jackson, uh, now that
they've seen what Greg Roman is gonna do and how
he's going to attack the Patriots defense, and he brought
out all the bells and whistles, I think the Patriots
are much better prepared. Um, should there be a rematch
in the postseason. What are your thoughts on Brady now?
He looked, uh, you know, I haven't quite got into

(01:00:58):
his film yet, but I thought, you know, I think
he's played well, um, ever since the Thursday night game.
Once he had that long layoff after the Thursday night game.
Up to that point, you know, you can make the
argument that Brady was feeling sorry for himself about the
lack of weapons and what was going on the offensive line,
and about how the defense was three deep with NFL starters,

(01:01:19):
where the offense couldn't even scratch together a tight end
to be out there with him. You know, I thought
I thought he was feeling sorry for himself for a while.
But ever since that Thursday Night game, I think Tom
Brady has played excellent football. And really this is about
you know, what's around him, getting that all on the
same page. Line has just been you know, a disaster
of of late, and but I think he's done a

(01:01:41):
great job mitigating that, and I think he's been playing
really good football in the past past three weeks. Doug
Gottley Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice
of Greg Badark, founder the Boston Sports Journal, covers the
entire NFL for the Las Vegas Review Journal. Okay, so
what's he doing with this contract and with the house
up for sale? Is this to go creation? Do you
think he's closed to Colin? It quits, like, what's really

(01:02:03):
going on there? Well, Doug, I I just think I
don't think Brady knows what he's gonna do once we
get to the offseason. But I think that Brady finally
had enough. Um and this has accumulated basically since the
Falcon Super Bowl when he was m v P. They
had a good group together. Um, you know, he we

(01:02:24):
all thought that he was going to get a contract extension.
After that, he didn't get it. The team didn't trade
Jimmy Garoppolo in the off season when his value was
at the most you know, all that sort of stuff,
and there were a ton of decisions and stars, you know,
weapons and things like that, and the last two contracts
he's gone for incentives and they wouldn't give him any

(01:02:45):
long term security. I think I think all of it
is accumulated. He's fed up, and he finally said, you
know what, I'm not gonna make any decisions, right now,
but now I want the power after the season. So
I think, you know, I think Tom Brady is going
to listen to offers from other places. I think he's
hoping that he gets, Hey, here's thirty thirty five million
dollars guaranteed. What are you guys gonna do? That sort

(01:03:06):
of thing. But I don't think that Brady right now
knows exactly what he's gonna do. And I think he'll
decide at that point in time whether he wants to stay,
whether he wants to go, or whether he wants to retire.
M uh Greg Badar joins us in the Doug Gotlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. How surprising was the Charger
dumping of the Packers to you? Yeah, that was pretty astounding,

(01:03:28):
you know, And I think I think the big thing was,
you know, and this is not a surprise in hindsight,
because I think the Packers defense has been playing with
fool's gold a little bit in recent weeks. Um, but
that a Chargers team who couldn't basically put one ft
in front of the other as far as their running game,
was able to stuff it down the Packers throats all day,

(01:03:49):
and um, you know, and I thought Rogers comments after
the game about, you know, sort of questioning the professionalism
of some of his teammates. Uh, we're interesting. I'm not
exactly sure what he was getting at, but he definitely
put some people on notice in there, and sometimes you
need to do that. I think I think the packwards
were feeling themselves a little bit. I think the aeron
realized that was going on, and I think this was

(01:04:11):
this was a big check for all of them. Yeah,
for people who missed it, he said, you know, things
have been going on the last forty eight hours. Um
and if if you watch them, they did their offense,
you had a couple of false start Charly, obviously the
defense couldn't get off the field, but the offense wasn't sharp.
And his commentary afterwards was and you know, he's the
new yef hunt when he speaks, people do in fact

(01:04:32):
listen Greig Badar joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay,
so let's discuss the browns um in the in the
if you could, if you could paint up a worse
possible scenario, I challenge you right where they've actually shown
here's something I missed earlier. They've actually shown that they
have talent, not just because of the names, but like

(01:04:53):
they beat the Ravens on the road and everybody think
the Ravens pretty good. They beat the Ravens ass on
the road. So they've they've shown they have some talent um.
But then now Adell Beckham Jrs. You know, mumbling, I
can't get the ball to save my life. They're wearing
the wrong cleats in the NFL is calling on him.
Freddie Kitchens can't get them to be disciplined. Baker Mayfield
looks like he's you know, he's his blood types rag

(01:05:16):
goo as he's he's putting a little bit of a
little little bit of babyweight there. And and they're just
they're a complete mess. And last that was this was
supposed to be the easy part of their schedule. Greg, Yeah,
and and Doug, what's you know when I just saw
them at Foxboro last week? And um, you know, they
they are just a mess. And and you know, and

(01:05:37):
it starts with Kitchens. It sort of starts and ends
with Kitchens. And we all a lot of us saw
this coming. Um, you know, a guy who was never
even a coordinator in the league, all of a sudden
it is elevated. And and here here's the worst part
is that I really like Freddie Kitchens as far as
his scheme, and you know what he does in terms
of setting Baker up in the offense, He really does.

(01:05:59):
He schemes the is up pretty well. But the thing
is now that they elevated him all the way to
head coach instead of just paying him, to pay him
a lot of money to stay on his offensive coordinator
and working with Baker Mayfield, Now all of a sudden,
you're gonna have to fire him. Now, now you're gonna
have to start all over again. If they brought in
another head coach and had Kitchens his offensive coordinator, all

(01:06:20):
of a sudden, Mayfield, the offense has continuity, the kind
of stuff that you need. Now we're gonna be talking
about because they have to move on from Freddie after this.
That now Baker is going to have his third offensive
coordinator in three years. And and asked Marcus Mariotta how
that's gone for him? Who can coach this team? Who
would take the job that can coach And there's the
other part to it, who would take the job that

(01:06:40):
can coach his team? Oh, that's a really good question.
I mean, you know, they need a disciplinary and my
first inclination is to say Rex Ryan, but I think
that might be a bit of a disaster. McCarthy, you know,
the second time around and his commentary about Baker Mayfield
on ESPN, I think that's okay. Then, Like McCarthy, I'm mean,

(01:07:00):
I think Mike deserves the second chance. He's a good coach.
Maybe he got a little stale in Green Bay, but
I think he he's a guy who's coached up quarterbacks
and he makes them discipline and he makes them or
at least tries to. Kind of he kind of ran
out of room with Rogers, but uh, he even got
farm to buy in. Rogers bought in in the beginning.
He can do that for Baker, and he knows how

(01:07:20):
to run a program, and you know, I think he
would be a perfect fit for them. Jim Calwell would
be another guy, would kind of mind. No, I don't know.
I mean, it's got to be somebody. You can't go
from somebody inexperienced without going to somebody experience. I agree
with you about McCarthy, but I don't know how that Yeah,
that one, I don't know how that one works. Um Man,
They are screwed, royally royally royally screwed? Where are we

(01:07:44):
with with Dak and the Cowboys? Like, I feel like
everyone who covers the NFL Greg bdard our guests from
the Boston Sports Journal. He also covers the entire end
of help for the Las Vegas Review Journal. I feel
like we're all realists that we we like Dak, but
like when he does, they have everything right. He's just
kind of a guy, right, And somehow it feels like

(01:08:05):
the Cowboys are gonna get suckered into overpaying him, aren't they? Yeah?
But I don't I don't think they really have any
other choice. I mean, you know, is he worked thirty
million dollars a year? No? And are you correct about that?
You know, the defense needs to play well. He needs
to have a running game, he needs to be well protected. Yeah,
he needs all those things. But you know he I

(01:08:25):
think he is a good player. I think he has
room to grow. I think he's you know, he's shown
that he buys in and he and he's a real
pro um. But I just don't think that the Cowboys
have any other choice. I mean, we're definitely we're going
to get a rough ferendum here on them with you
know the Vikings coming up, the Patriots, the Bears defense,
if they're if they still want to play for Mr Bisky,

(01:08:48):
and you know the Rams and the Eagles. But um, yeah, no,
I think that's a good player. But you're right. I
mean a lot of things have to go right for him,
and you know they got the Giants to night, so
I'm sure that will go well. Adam Gates does he
see a year two? No, I don't see how this
lasts much longer. And you know, I was surprised by
the move. I love Gaze as an offensive coordinator. When

(01:09:10):
he just has that focus on um, it obviously does
not work as a head coach. And uh, you know
the just need to move on. Yeah, they look like
a complete mess. Obviously. From opening press conference until until now,
it has not been smooth sailing. Greg Badard fall on
Twitter at Greg A Bdard. He does an incredible job

(01:09:31):
of covering the league. Check out the Boston Sports Review
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See what I said sorry the Boston Sports Journal and
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time the Doug Gotlip Show you on Fox Sports trading
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a previous show on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports. When
do't we call it? This is Nick right on First Things,
First Morning show on Fox Sports One, discussing the Packers
after their loss to the Chargers. I still think that

(01:10:15):
the Packers at their best are the best team in
the whole week. I do believe that, but it is
concerning that we now saw at their worst. That was ugly.
I mean, they were lucky to get to double digits yesterday.
They needed a touchdown and a two point conversion in
the fourth quarter to cut it to fifteen. It was

(01:10:36):
that was a shocking result to me, not just that
they lost, but the way the Chargers dominated that football
game when the Chargers haven't been dominating anybody this year,
and to dominate them defensively. I know they have that
great pass rush, but Derwin James didn't walk through that
all of a sudden and so to me, only one
first down rushing the football, no running attack whatsoever, no

(01:10:57):
consistent passing game. Yeah. Like, look, I think here's one
of the things. In fairness, I'm not sure people understand
just how banged up the Chargers were and about and
we talked about this with with the Ravens, how many
things went their way and and I would actually tell
you that in spite of the fact that the time

(01:11:18):
of possession was dominated by the Chargers, especially in the
first half, the fact is that red zone defense is
one of the top three stats, and they did keep
the Chargers out of the end zone in the first half,
keeping them in the game like it was a complete
blood letting, a complete beat down. And yet the Packers
were still in it going into the second half. And

(01:11:41):
that's because though the defense has been maligned Ben, but
don't break is and try and get a turnover. Is
is the way. So so while the yardage and the
first downs and the balance of the Chargers is troubling,
it could also be pointed out that if you wanted
to you positive, hey, at least the Packers kepting out

(01:12:02):
kept him out of the end zone more often than not.
I mean even on the last touchdown, technically on three downs,
you know, right around first in goal, the Packers kept
him out of the endzone. So it may look like
they were an epic and complete disaster at both sides,
but I actually think that the defense played better than
then you'd be led to believe, yes, rhyme music, do

(01:12:25):
you ever feel like sometimes in the NFL, and this
is really a media thing where each and every week
we feel like every game when it involves you know,
popular teams like the Packers, we have to sort of
come up with a definitive summary of what it means
instead of just being like, hey, you know what they
lost on the road, Like that's how as much as

(01:12:46):
they were dominated by the Chargers. When I watched that
game yesterday, I was like, Okay, well the Packers for
eight games of this year have mostly looked like a
good team, and today they just had a bad game.
Like that's sort of how I would just summing up,
because we all know that the Chargers were actually a
team that have been said for the for the for

(01:13:07):
the Patriots, like the Patriots are down seventeen nothing before
anyone hit him, and then they reacted and then they're
about to take the lead. And Julian Ellmond never fumbles.
Fumbles like a split second before you hit the ground.
If he doesn't fumble, I think they win the game.
Where's the the Packers? And the Packers have to come
back out west to play the Niners in a couple
of weeks, so we'll see if the react because the

(01:13:27):
Niners are a better team obviously the Chargers. We'll see
how they react then. But yeah, you can play it.
Great players can have a bad game. Good teams can
have bad games. It's what you do over the over
the long term, right, It's what you do over the
long term. And that's what the Fox said. Did you

(01:13:48):
guys know this um? Long Beach State nickname? You wear this?
What's the long what's Long Beach State's nick name? Dan Buyer?
Do you know the answer this? Yeah? Well yes, and
I know what you're talking to. But the forty Niners
is what we've been known to refer them to, right,
And I only know forty Niners because it wasn't in
regards to the gold Rush. It was actually, uh supposedly

(01:14:13):
because the university was founded in ninety right, forty Niners, Um,
But now they're the Sharks. I just thought they were
the Beach. No, not um. The release for their their
game says Long Beach State has officially changed the nickname
for all sports other than baseball to the Beach. But

(01:14:33):
they're gonna have a mascot that's a shark. Sharks, Stingrays,
and Go Beach made the final round. Um, sharks are
also fearless. Yeah, the Sharks are the mascot and go Beaches, which,
like the whole thing is confusing as hell. And I
also believe that the baseball team of the dirt Bag,

(01:14:54):
they're gonna stay the dirt Bag, which was like a
nickname for the group of guys back when Lobby State
was real good at baseball, and it was like a
glowing term like the dirt bag, like I get dirty.
So they're actually known as that's actually gonna be their
official nickname is the dirt Backs. But they're gonna have
Sharks as a mascot, and then you're gonna say, go Beach.

(01:15:14):
It's the weird, It's it's straight. Sharks will become the
cow State Long Beaches official mascot. So prospect, your pete
just goes away. What do you do? With those old
mascot uniforms. Man, they should have just put them in
swim trunks. Yeah, and had the shark or or with
like the metal detector. Just have the metal detector because

(01:15:36):
that's what you would see at the beach right. Well,
also at long Beach beaches, you'll see a lot of
oil because there's the off off floor of shore oil rigs.
Right you step into gooiness, like this is a shark
that's all covered with oil and filth and runoff. Lovely town.
Lovely town anyway, I just saw that. I know they

(01:15:56):
opened against you see, like college basketball kicks off tomorrow
and in Madison's core garden. That's a lot of nick
is that FA's the only team that has that many.
That's a lot of nicknames for a team that's like
five feels like it doesn't. Well, there's a difference between
what the mascot is in the nickname is like old
miss now has the shark is their mascot. Yeah, but

(01:16:16):
they're they're the rebels, not the rebels, and are they
still the rebels? But they don't want the rebel rebel
correct and they can no longer do the Confederate flag,
Confederate flag hung around a lot longer than like any
like that was. You're like, what are they doing? How
is that? Okay? Like, yeah, Confederate flag, Like you're not
really even close to okay. They should have done Billy

(01:16:36):
Idol's Rebel yell as their loco. Mo, that's a good call.
Where were you when they were deciding? Dan Buyer was
in a studio? Yeah? Um, okay, coming up next. Look,
we've seen Willie Tagger get fired not two years into

(01:16:57):
his job in college, But what about the pros? What
if you don't make it through your first year? What
are the New York Jets to do? I was watching
that Jets game against the Dolphins, and yes, the Dolphins
won the Toilet Bowl, and I decided I know why
the Gays thing wouldn't work. Next to the Doug Golp Show,

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Do Do Doo doo doo doo doo doo. I hope
you're having a great day at a spectacular weekend gets
you ready for a huge college football week and uh,
you know, kind of interesting college football over the weekend.
Last yesterday, Willie Tigger was fired. They got embarrassed by Miami.

(01:17:58):
Miami's not good for the state used to be great.
And a year and a half into the Willie Taggart experiment,
which I asked last year twice, did they get a
receipt with the Willie Taggart purchase? And the answer apparently
is no, because they're gonna have to be him twenty
million dollars to get out of that deal. But it's
one of those things to where you just know when
you know, and you know that Willie Taggart ain't the

(01:18:20):
answer in Florida State. So I guess the question is
are we there with the Jets and Adam Gaze, Like, remember, Mike,
Mike mccagnet could not have built a worst football team.
It was so well received when he signed Levian Bell
to the second biggest contract for running back in the

(01:18:41):
NFL that he was fired shortly thereafter. Like there's all
they haven't rebuilt the line, they don't have good skill
position players outside of Jamal Adams, you know Donald and
then you know you you you draft in the first round,
you draft well this year, but you build teams, second, third, fourth,
build the depth of your team. I mean, look, even

(01:19:04):
the Donald thing, which ended up for my money, and
I know Lamar Jackson played well last night. I'm still
a believer in Donald. I think he's the best quarterback
of that class. Even that they locked into getting Donald,
they traded up to be in third position. Not for
the Browns doing what the Browns doing, taking the wrong
guy in Mayfield, and then the Giants deciding, you know,

(01:19:25):
we need a franchise called but let's take see Kwan Barkley.
The Jets will be completely screwed. Somcagnet builds a bad roster,
but then Gaze comes in wins a power struggle. Macagnet's gone,
and things don't get better. They seem to have gotten worse,
seemed to have gotten worse. So I guess the question is,

(01:19:46):
doesn't even make it to the end of the first
because there's so much negativity now, so much that's welcome
in Miniche Metto covers the Jets for the New York
Daily News. This is the doug Otlive Show on Fox
Ports Radio. How accurate a portrayal did I give of
of the Jets heading into the year, Well, I thought

(01:20:08):
the expectations were a little bit higher than that, only
because there was a lot of beliefs that Gays would
be able to help Donald make a significant jump in
his second season, like you've seen from some of these
younger quarterbacks in the last couple of years. Uh. Not
a playoff team necessarily, but certainly a team that would
be playing some relevant games in December. And that's obviously
not gonna be the case. Now, when did it? When

(01:20:29):
did it start to go wrong? In hindsight, Doug, I
think it started to go wrong in January when they
decided to hire out of Gays. Uh, just because, look,
you can be critical of Mike mccagnan and that that's
all fair. But the notion of entrusting this guy to
run free agency, to spend a hundred and twenty million

(01:20:51):
dollars and then to run your draft only to cut
bait three weeks after the draft and then saddle your
new GM Joe Douglas with players that he actily didn't want,
is setting your organization back. That's indecisiveness, that's inexperience. At
the very top, and I think there's a lot of
blame to go around, Adam Gates included, But ultimately this
is a Chris Johnson problem. Um okay, so um. Donald

(01:21:17):
Obviously getting Mono didn't help, right. There were some games
in there where he needed the experience and could have
played better. But they did go and they look great
against the Dallas Cowboys. Granted the Cowboys were a little
bit a little bit depleted. How did how did this
thing fall apart? After that? Well? I think the Dallas
game is an interesting one because Sam Donalds made a
lot of plays off script, off schedule. He did a

(01:21:38):
lot of things that we saw towards the end of
his rookie season that makes you think that this kid
can be a difference maker if he can curtail the turnovers.
And he's just gone backwards over these last three games
New England, Jacksonville and then obviously Miami. A lot of
that is decision making. A lot of that is the
head coach not properly putting in position to win. I

(01:21:59):
have said all long, Doug that I think that Adam
Gates has a lot of good ideas. I don't think
he's a dummy by any stretch of the imagination. But
he has been terrible at adapting those ideas to stick
this quarterback. He is not coaching Peyton Manning, uh, who
has fifteen years of experience in the same offense. He
is coaching a twenty two year old quarterback learning a
new offense, and he has to learn to adapt the

(01:22:22):
ideas that he has in his head to to what
makes the most sense for this quarterback in this time.
He has not done that. He's calling plays as if
Peyton Manning were his quarterback. And that's not that's unfair
to the quarterback. Okay, so so let's let's let's get
to yesterday, um, a game in which they're better off losing,
but it doesn't matter if Winter lose, you have to
look good. And they did not look good. And and

(01:22:45):
then obviously, not only do you have the Dolphins fans
who don't like them, but you have Jets fans who
are like, you know, there's snowbirds and they're at the
game and they want to fire him. I felt like
it's a geno Smith factor and stick with me for
a second. When she met to our guests from The
New York Daily is it's one thing to bench Eli
Manning with the Giants. It's another thing to bench him
for Geno Smith, who it's the same stadium, it's the

(01:23:08):
same town. No one in New York had good feelings
about Geno Smith, and you're like, wait, you're gonna bench
him for him, which, which is the kind of the
same thing. That felt like, you can look bad, but
to look bad in the stadium where you just got
fired from six months ago, I think that compounitive and
made it feel worse. Is that fair? Yes, it's humiliating
for him. Now. Gates is never gonna admit that publicly.

(01:23:29):
He tried to downplay that in fact, but you have
to be pretty naive not to think that he wanted
to stick it to Steven Ross for firing him. Uh,
And the opposite happened. Steven Ross got the last last Uh. You. Ultimately,
it would be nice for Miami to have the number
one pick so they can have their choice of quarterback.
But I think that there was some satisfaction on the
Dolphins owners and to you know, to be the guy

(01:23:51):
that he had some issues with, you know, and rightfully so,
so yeah, look, this is a loss that's gonna haunt
Adam Gates unless he turns it around and becomes a
super Bowl champion, which I don't think anybody believes. You know,
if his tenure does come to an end after this
season or perhaps after season, he's obviously never gonna be
a head coach in the NFL again. And I think
we'll look back at tomorrow is to ask his most

(01:24:11):
humiliating defeat, um, did you ask the question? Did you
ask the question of him? And what whether or not
that validated the Dolphins decision? I did? I did? I mean, look,
he fired the guy. The guy has has one win
as the Jet head coach, and he had an opportunity
to beat a team that was really a punch line.

(01:24:32):
And it's ironic that, you know, the Jets have now
become the punch line. The Dolphins were the punch line
and they you know, that has transferred over to Adam Gates.
So I thought that was a fair question to ask.
And I think if you talk to anybody in that
Dolphin organization, especially at the very top, uh, you know,
they believed that that decision was warranted before yesterday. Yesterday
just made it that much more sweeter. Yeah, I'm gonna

(01:24:56):
I love your work. I'm gonna disagree with you in
terms of that that being a fair like question, right, Like,
I don't know. I mean, I almost feel like it
goes better left unspoken or there's a there's a more
open ended way, you know, of of of asking it
rather than using the term validated. That means like, see

(01:25:17):
you suck as a coach. That's what it felt like. Well, look,
this is a big boy business, right Pro sports is
a big boy businesses this in college sports to cut
throat industry. Uh. And let's just you know, why why
use the euphemism why sugarcoat things? Uh? Adam Gates backstabb
Mike mccagnen after Mike mccagnon hired him four months earlier. So, Uh,

(01:25:38):
the way I approach it, the way I've always approached it,
is that there's no reason to dance around. We're not
talking about high school or college sports here. It's professional sports.
There's a lot of backstabbing, a lot of cutthroat dealings
going on. So he was fired by Stephen Ross, and
Stephen Ross probably loved the fact that he could stick
at to Adam Gates by beating yes, how how do
how do they protect Sam Donald? What's the right fit.

(01:25:58):
How do you how do you fix the Sam Donald thing? Well,
it's not gonna get fixed this year. They can mitigate
some of those issues with smarter play calling, but the
bottom line is that Joe Douglas has to get offensive
line help through the draft, through free agency. That's the
number one priority. There isn't even a close second. I
know they need n pass rusher and cornerback help, but
the number one priority for this new general manager is

(01:26:20):
to get three, four, perhaps even five new offensive lineman
to beef up the franchise quarterback. And you know, we
saw what could go wrong in Indianapolis when Andrew Luck
was getting beat up and then the new GM comes in,
he makes all the right moves and gets a great
offensive line. Now, so happens that Andrew Luck retired, But
this offensive line in Indianapolis has is in really good

(01:26:42):
shape and that's going to be the model for Joe
Douglas moving forward to help protect Sam Donald. Yeah, I
mean that even feels like that's kind of what the
the Giants tried to do a little bit of that
as well, right, I mean, like look at the moves
in which they got Hernandez, they got ther Nande's kid
right from you tap, and then they traded for the
Browns best best guard as they signed Nate Solder. It

(01:27:02):
hasn't worked out perfectly, but they at least tried that
kind of same game plan, right, and that that has
to be the game plan when you invest a high
pick in a quarterback. I tend to agree with you.
What about the Jamal Adams thing? How much damage was
done by the trade discussions which revolved around him? Well, look,

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he's a young player. I think that Joe Douglas was
doing what was right for the organization, which is to
engage in conversations. I don't think it was as innocent
as well. We took a phone call. It was much
more than that. There was back and forth negotiations. And
if you can better your team, even if it means
trading away of Pro Bowl safety, then you have to
at least entertain the idea. My position has always been
that you build your team not around a safety per se,

(01:27:45):
but you build around a core of players, and people
like Jamal Adams, maximum effort, pro Bowl player, ascending star,
does everything right off the field, never gets in trouble.
Uh And I can tell you with great assurance that
people in that locker room, players in that locker room
follow him him. Uh. He's the kind of guy you want. However,
because of the jets current state of affairs, they have

(01:28:05):
so many holes, so many needs, it would be malpracticed, frankly,
if Joe Douglas didn't at least engage in discussions to
see what was possible. Ultimately, the price tag was too high.
I am not rolling out the fact that they're going
to trade Jamal Adams before the draft. In fact, I'm
pretty sure the Jets will entertain it if if there's
a you know, somebody out there that's willing to pay
a premium plus. Uh, I think the Jets would not

(01:28:28):
hesitate to make that move. I mean, look, he supposedly
liked the idea of the Cowboys and they wanted Zack Martin,
which would begin kind of the process of what you
talked about, which is they need an offensive line and
he's a tremendous guard. Like I think, like like you said,
it's a big boy business and in the real world,
that's a reasonable discussion to have. No. Absolutely, this is

(01:28:49):
a young player who's been with one team his whole career.
I'm not excusing the fact. I thought actually Levy on
Bell put it best earlier in the week, which was,
you know, he has gone through free agency, he has
sat out year, he's had issues with the team that
drafted him. So he's kind of harden too what the
NFL truly is, Whereas I think Jamal Adams has more
of a no idyllic look at things because he wants

(01:29:11):
to be the face of the franchise of you know,
for the team that drafted him. He wants to lead
the Jets to a super Bowl. I think, you know,
with more experience and with more time, will get a
better sense of what this business really is. It's not
a family. You know, coaches and players talking about it
being a family, It's not a family. It's a business.
And it's a bottom line business design for one thing,
which is to win the Super Bowl. Awesome stuff, man,

(01:29:33):
He's great stuff. Love your honesty, uh and having you
on our show. Thanks so much, Thanks appreciated, maniche met.
New York Daily News covers the New York Jets and
does an outstanding job. From the Jets to Work to
the Patriots and the and the and the Ravens. Last night,
Lamar Jackson the Ravens put on a show, So does
that mean that he's the leader of the clubhouse. At

(01:29:53):
the midway point for the NFL's m v P, was that,
Lee Corso says, not so fast, my friends, get that. Next.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio a
app Doug gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What's gonna happen
is you're gonna hear people are gonna hear this like

(01:30:16):
you hater because you don't think Lamar Jackson long term. No,
you're right, I don't think long term he stays healthy.
Um because if if you look, Russell Wilson had a
hundred sixty carries one year and started to go down.
He had to two years where he carried over a
hundred times, and after that he became a pocket quarterback.
And Russell Wilson has always been athletic and able to

(01:30:38):
run around. But a thrower Lamar Jackson isn't. I had
this discussion. This is like I've been doing this a
long freaking time. Long time college basketball gets on the
way tomorrow. This is my wow, two thousand to two
thou three. So this is my seventeenth year doing college basketball. No,

(01:31:01):
seventeen years, Like I've been doing college basketball longer than
next year's freshmen have been alive, right, longer than Ryan
Music has been a lot really, I mean won't get
down to it anyway. Um, And I remember, and look,
this was obviously before all the dog fighting stuff. But

(01:31:23):
I said, like, look, I'd rather have Carson Palmer than
Mike Vick and people. And this is when Mike Vick
was in Atlanta, and I was like, I like watching
I love watching Mike Vick in Florida State. I like
watching with the falcons, but like, he's not accurate, he's
super fast, and you know, I didn't know he wasn't
working hard. I think Lamar has a greater work ethic,

(01:31:43):
But what he does best he's going to be asked
to do less of as he gets older, whereas Carson Palmer,
I was gonna be asked to do more of what
he does best the longer he plays. Right now, Carson
Palm was hurt twice, so that derailed his career. Mike

(01:32:05):
Vick went to jail. That kind of derailed his career.
But the logic is the same logic, Like people are
are ditching Sam donald Like, dude, Sam Donalds, get fine.
He's on a terrible team. The Ravens are not a
terrible team. They're a very well run organization. They're playing
to his strengths. They've designed entire offense around what he does.

(01:32:25):
Adam cases not. They had a transition from the general
manager to a new gentle manager. It's kind of the
same mindset. They have a great defense. They shortened the game,
they run the football, They try and put them in
third advantageous situations, and even then it hasn't been perfect.
We were the Browns of the punchline to many a joke, Right,

(01:32:48):
we do realize that the Browns beat the Ravens in Baltimore, correct,
Like we did see Kansas City's much maligned defense dominate
Lamar Jackson and even the runs he made against Seattle,
like he's gonna do less of You don't know that,
Yes I do. Do you know why? Because they can't

(01:33:10):
protect you once you get out of the pocket. I
just can't. And it's like baseball. It only takes one hit,
one clean shot. They run him down the line and
the option, and you know what teams are gonna do,
hit the quarterback like these teams is like they've never
seen the option before because teams don't know one runs

(01:33:30):
it in college football anymore. But how do you get
a team to start running? Do you know how they
got Seattle to stop running his zone read? They would
hit Russell Wilson every time, and you know what he
stopped doing. He stopped keeping the football. That's what they
will do. And he's just not He's not built that big,

(01:33:52):
he's not that good a thrower, not that accurate. When
things go right, it's really fun to watch. The game
is short started playing downhill, things go wrong really ugly,
they get booed. But this whole idea that he's the
m v P because there's look, and this is important.
If you're a fan, please stop chanting m v P

(01:34:14):
just because the best player in your team is at
the free throw line, like Blake Griffin was at the
free throw line last year for Detroit and they're chanting
like he's not the m v P. Just because your
home fans chant m v P. Doesn't help your cause.
And even the earl Thomas saying he's the m v pick.

(01:34:35):
I'm right with the crowd. I mean that, like, man,
this man is the m v PS. Uh, I'm right
behind him. I'm backing him. Uh. You know he makes
my job easier. And you know when you finish the
game like that, man, it's it's just a sold relief
again on us, us on default. If we ain't gotta
be had a pressure on us. We don't want the
pressure now, but if if it comes to it, we'll
we'll we'll deal with it. But it's good when those
guys couple last Force cabitalize Force because they got the turnovers.

(01:34:58):
They got three turnovers. One was they picked up Fumbo
ran it back when the Patriots are going to score
a game leading touchdown to start the second half. I
thought Lamar Jackson played really well. I think they've designed
a good system around him, and I think he's improved.
I don't think he's a great quarterback. I don't think
he's the league m VP. I think if we look
at this reasonably and we just look at all the
different guys would be like, yeah, I kind of agree,

(01:35:19):
Like is he having a better year than Aaron Rodgers? No?
Do you have a better day than in Rodger? Yesterday. Yes, yes,
Aaron Rodgers basically on the opposite side of that deal.
We he couldn't get the football, couldn't get on the field.
But Aaron Rodgers just went in and beat Kansas City,
made some throws we've never seen before. Aaron Rodgers had
six tds in a game against the Oakland Raiders and

(01:35:40):
made some ridiculous plays. Right, this is the same Aaron
Rodgers who um who has been lighting up the league,
whether they scored thirty five points in the last seven
games or six games, like, Aaron Rodgers has been better.
We're don't do just because the Sunday night game you
haven't watched, like, oh they have, They're a whole bunch

(01:36:00):
of other games you should actually watch. He's not. He's
not playing them better Russell Wilson And you're like, well,
he beat Russell Wilson. No, he beat the Seattle Seahawks.
Russell Wilson has been a better quarterback. Deshaun Watson has
been a better quarterback. Like in the same day, Deshaun
Watson was better yesterday. It was just really early in
the morning on daylight savings. Some people are passed out, Like, wait,

(01:36:21):
there was an early NFL game what they love it.
He was amazing against Jacksonville. He's an amazing player. Like, honestly,
Kirk Cousins has been better than Lamar Jackson. Sorry, Christian
McCaffrey has been better to Lamar Jackson consistently and been

(01:36:41):
a more valuable player to his team. If we want
to take true value, they run the ball, They kicked
the ball well, all three phass defense is pretty good
true value. Aaron Rodgers has been way more truly valuable
to his team. Hell, Jimmy Garoppolos didn't Jimy Garppolo just
pitch a perfect game on Thursday Night Football? Didn't He

(01:37:05):
isn't his team undefeated? Are we going by team wins?
We're going buy individual stats because neither he wins on
but they plays well against the previously undefeated Patriots who
had played against crumming competition and walked into a buzz
saw team coming off of bye. And suddenly some han
yak start chatting m v P and we're like, you
know what, Lolar Jackson copy the m v P is

(01:37:26):
not the most valuable guy on his team, let alone
the most valuable player in the entire league. Stop it
sound foolish. Just say, hey, Lamar, just because Lamar Jackson
is playing way better then you thought he could play
at this point in his second season as a starter,
does not an m v P make That just means
he's playing way better than you thought he would play

(01:37:48):
in his second season as a starting quarterback. Doug Gottlieb
show here on Fox Sports Radio, what a huge weekend
we have in college football. Will get to that in
a second. Joe Clatt, lead college football analyst for Fox Sports,
joins us. Before we get to the big Big Ten games,
before we get to the l s U Alabama game,
let me ask you about Willie Taggert. What's your reaction

(01:38:08):
and being fired? Um, I guess midway through his second season.
I mean, I wasn't that surprise, Doug, just because they
I mean, it was pretty clear that it was not
happened happening at Florida State. However, I think it's such
a bad precedent, I mean an incredibly bad bad precedent,
in particularly when you look at the dollar amount that

(01:38:29):
they're going to spend in order to make this happen. Uh,
they're buying him out for somewhere right around eighteen million,
and when you include his staff and what they had
and guarantees, Florida State is going to spend twenty million
dollars for Willie Taggert not to coach, then they're gonna
have to go out and they're gonna have to pay
someone to coach next year, obviously, and their buy out

(01:38:51):
from the school that they're at right now. Mike Norville
probably is in the lead because of the fact that
he only has a half million dollar buy out at Memphis,
and so he'll cost them the least amount of money
after they write the twenty million dollar check for the
others to go away. So who's the right fit? Oh gosh,
that's a great question. Um. Obviously, this was a fit

(01:39:16):
that everyone thought at the outset was going to be
perfect with his recruiting ties, with his success in the state,
and it just wasn't happening. Obviously. I listen, I'm a
big fan of what Mike Norvell has done in Memphis.
I already mentioned his name. I talked about the money
aspect of this. Uh. The one thing that I think
is is hindering Norvelle a little bit coming from Memphis
is that Justin Fluinte is the one that really built Memphis.

(01:39:39):
I guess you could argue, and they maybe had going
a little bit before Fluinte was there as well, but
Norvell just kind of kept it on the tracks and
then now has kind of popped in the last couple
of years, and obviously on Saturday night had a big
win over s m U. I think a name that
is is going to be really interesting and and don't
you might even laugh at me. I think Lane Kiffin
is a pretty decent choice at Florida State. I thought

(01:40:01):
that that's sounds wild, but I think lay Kiffin is
a decent shot. Uh. Maybe I know too much, but
I would say no, I would say there's some But
I'm just gonna say I don't. I don't see it happening. Well,
you never know. Crazier things have happened. Yeah, I guess,

(01:40:22):
I guess I don't. I don't see it happening. Um,
but yeah, maybe. But I just part of part of
the problem is that they're going to be in a
pretty clear second position and this and this is what
I think is so interesting in particular after the team
that I had last week, is that USC likely is
going to be searching for a coach and I'm wondering

(01:40:45):
how this decision by Florida State is impacted two fold,
Doug One, by the early recruiting calendar, we're starting to
see this more and more in the middle of the
season rather than after the last game, because of trying
to salvage something in the last month of year as
far as the recruiting goes, and then also trying to
be the first to market UM. And I wonder how

(01:41:06):
that impacts what USC is going to be doing here
in the next few weeks. And of course the news
coming out that they're going to I don't know if
it's official yet or not, but Higher microphone the athletic
director from Cincinnati to be their new I A D Yeah,
I wouldn't be surprised if Urban turns down SC. If
Fickle gets involved, just bone because that's sometimes the way

(01:41:30):
it works. Like we're all so focused on Urban that Urban.
If Urban decides it's not for him, he may go.
You know, it would be great, would be Luke Fickle, who,
of course another has the Ohio State ties. Um, you
mentioned USC. How much of that was USC, how much
of it was Oregon. Well, I think that the USC
right now is not a great football team. A lot

(01:41:52):
of that is the fact that they are not great
on the offensive and defensive line this year. I know
that they've they've done decent on the offensive line, but
they just they can't protect the quarterback when they have
no running game and they haven't been able to run
it with any sustained success. Now part of that has
been injuries. They're missing all of their running backs. They're
down to you know, they're true freshman basically fourth string guy,

(01:42:12):
fifth string guy, and Quincy Johnson and Kristin the kid
from from San Diego. But that's a problem. You've got
to be able to run the football and uh they
clearly can't. Um and again, whether it's twofold schematically and
or the injury wise. And from that standpoint, I think
that USC had really no shot against Oregon once that

(01:42:35):
game plan became kind of came to fruition, and after
that it was a lot of Oregon. Listen, Oregon is
really good. Their physical upfront, they're fast. I think their
defense is better than some people UH like to give
them credit for, in particular in the back end. Um
they showed that with a couple of those interceptions. So

(01:42:56):
Oregon is really good and they're gonna definitely be in
the narrative as it relates to the football playoff. We'll
just have to see, um exactly how high they are
tomorrow night. Without first ranking comes out Joel clad joining
us in the Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, let's get to the big game this weekend,
the one that everybody's gonna be talking about. Let's get

(01:43:16):
to Minnesota taken on Penn State. I do want to
get to l s U in Alabama, but um, look,
Penn State. We think they're on a collision course to
play Ohio State. Likelihood they get tripped up when they
go to the Twin Cities. I don't know that's a
great Listen, Minnesota is better than you think. Now, they

(01:43:36):
can run it their physical Uh, they got good backs.
They're better than the skill position than than um. Then
I think people realize they've got a really good wide receiver.
But the Penn State is defensively far superior, and I
don't think it's gonna be easy for Minnesota to move
the football. Uh, Penn State can get after the quarterback.

(01:43:58):
Minnesota has not seen anybody get after the quarterback and
have the athleticism in the front seven that they're going
to see on Saturday, and then the speed from Handler
and that offense. Penn State is a big play, explosive offense,
and and with Hamdler getting down the field, Minnesota hasn't
seen anything even close to this, And as as great

(01:44:19):
of a story as it is, I just don't think
that Minnesota is on the echelon of the Penn States
in the Ohio States of the world. Um. I don't
even if they would have played Michigan yet, if they
would have played Wisconsin yet, we wouldn't have be having
this conversation. So from that standpoint, I think Penn State's
gonna win. Um, it would be an amazing story if
Minnesota does, But I just their schedule has gotten them

(01:44:43):
to this point, very similar to how Iowa was undefeated
when they faced Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship
game a few years ago. They played them tough, but
I don't think that they were to the caliber of
what Michigan State was bringing that night. And I think
it's gonna be very similar when Minnesota place Penn State. Yeah,
I tend to agree to right, Let's get to l
s U and Alabama Obama seven point favorite. That means
people seem to be assuming that to a plays, but

(01:45:04):
but this LSU team can really score points. Um, does
it feel like l s U should be that big
a favorite at home? UM? Obama, No, I I don't.
I seven was huge. I thought that most this was
going to be a coin flip, which meant that you
were going to get the standard three three and a
half from the home team. Right when I saw that,

(01:45:25):
I was I was candidly shocked. Listen, Alabama defensively is
not what they have been in the last few years.
They're very young, very young. They at times have been
starting seven true freshman, which was the most in the
country across their team. They don't run the ball like
they have in the past. So if two is not healthy,
folks like, they're not beating l s U without a

(01:45:46):
healthy too. It's bilo. I don't care what they did
with mac Jones against Arkansas. Arkansas is barely a power
Power five school right now. Um, I mean they're atrociously
bad at Arkansas. UM. L s U does a couple
of things that I think people don't recognize. I think
that their defense is better than people think. In particular
their ability to cover on the outside. They've got a

(01:46:07):
couple of young corners that are not scared, and we'll
get right in the chops with anybody out there. And
I think that's gonna pay huge dividends when going against
some of these guys that they're gonna be facing from Alabama.
By the way, Alabama is still banged up the wide
receiver with DeVante Smith. You know that remains to be seen. Um.
I think Judy is amazing, Obviously Rugs is amazing, but

(01:46:29):
L s u Is is uniquely suited to beat Bama,
in particular this version of Alabama. I think it's gonna
be a shootout. And quite frankly, I trust I trust
a healthy Joe Burrow more than I do a questionable
to a tongue of Voloa. At this point, I think
Elis h is going to go in there and win
the game. Um, and then what will we do with
Alabama if they went out, Well, that's when it's that's

(01:46:52):
when it's completely about. The narrative is about how effective
Too was and how healthy he us or the perceived health.
And it's not gonna matter what they say. They're gonna say, Hey,
he was good to go. If he's not effective, and
if he doesn't play well, I think that the committee
will give Alabama pass. And quite quite honestly, I really

(01:47:12):
believe that the loser of this game is still going
to go to the playoff because of the narrative that
tends to get generated at the end of the season
surrounding the SEC and their television partners, which is all
last year when the two lost Georgia was being argued
for over Oklahoma, even I mean, it was wait, wait, wait,
wait on. You work for Fox Okay. Nobody tells you

(01:47:34):
to root for or or make arguments for the Big
ten teams or for the Big twelve teams or the
Pack twelve teams, and we own their rights. We broadcast
their games. Like you didn't. You didn't think that that
was that was somewhat odd that all of the sudden,
Georgia with two losses as a non champ was being

(01:47:54):
argued for and guys were pounding the table for Georgia
over Oakland, Homa or Ohio State. You didn't find that off?
Um No, no, I I didn't know. I didn't because
I thought it was a lot like sc the year before,
and we saw they were the better. They were better
than Alabama. We should have seen the Alabama loss coming

(01:48:16):
because Georgia was the better team than Alabama. I think
that's what right. They just couldn't They just couldn't get
over that hump. And you know that Georgia had but
Georgia had their shot to be the right. I left
the point of this whole thing. It's like Georgia had
a shot to be an Alabama. I don't think whatever
you think of people's opinions, and you are right to

(01:48:38):
say that you disagree like you disagree with them. But
the idea that because their TV partner like that, that
would then say that, well, your Fox people are going like, hey,
you should really talk about the big tent. I just
having worked for all three places, I can tell you
that no one has ever told me who to and
I know no one's ever told you at Fox. I
think it. I do. I think there's an SEC bias. Sure, right,

(01:49:00):
they win seven in a row, and you know L
s U and the L s U and Alabama rematch
I thought was a joke a couple of years ago.
Obviously that was I think that was the Oklahoma state year. Um.
But then you know Oklahoma State lost Iowa State. That
made it a really hard argument. But this is what
kind of college football is. I don't think it has
anything to do with the television partners. Would be more
would be would be my pushback. It was also Stanford

(01:49:24):
that year. Remember Stanford and Oklahoma State wint it up
when the Bowl great game. By the way, um, I
do believe that that narrative takes over. Okay, regardless of affiliation.
How that, regardless of affiliation, that narrative tends to take over.
We saw it in the l s U Alabama year.
We saw it last year. We saw it in the

(01:49:45):
year that Alabama still went and did not win their division,
although that's happened for Ohio State in the past. I
guess my point, the point being, I believe that because
of the injury status of Tua, it gives it gives
an excuse particular Alabama like a real pass. Which, by
the way, that's in the criteria for the committee. The
committee is supposed to look at who's injured, who's not injured?

(01:50:08):
Is that team full um the fully healthy when they
lose uh certain games? So I think it remains to
be seen and listen, this is not I'm not sitting
on here ranting and raving. I believe like there is
a narrative you and I both know it, and that
narrative probably will take over at some point this year
as well. Great stuff as always, you where are you

(01:50:29):
off to this week? We're going to Ohio State. Ride
that ride, that Ohio State wave and and they're they're
playing their parents. They're playing Maryland, Maryland, Maryland. This is
an honest question. Okay. So Saban basically said his staff

(01:50:50):
last year had eyes on other jobs. Locksley was on
his staff calling calling plays. They had that great start
where we thought they'd beat a good Syracuse team. Turns
out Syracuse stinks. Now they've lost four in a row,
They've lost what six out of seven, and outside the
Indiana game, these losses have not been competitive. They still
have Ohio State, Nebraska, Michigan State. Maryland is not gonna

(01:51:13):
win a game the rest of the season. They get
end up three and nine. Um, like, are we sure
that Locksley? I mean, he had a terrible record in
New Mexico. I know there's some there's some other factors,
like do we have another Willie tagging our hands? Um,
I'm not sure I think that we gotta let him recruit, right.
I mean, he's supposedly a tremendous recruiter in the local

(01:51:36):
area that I agree with you. And and so you
know the DNB, as they refer to UM, that has
some great players, some great players. In fact, one of
the guys on the field this Saturday, Chase Young Um
is from that Maryland area. You know. So if you
can sort of put up a fence around your recruiting area,
if you will get some players, then they'll be just fine.

(01:51:57):
Now if they don't get those players, then yeah, I mean,
and you know, they'll be looking for a new coach,
you know, in two or three years. But that's the
case with every higher So at this point, I'd like
to see, you know, how they bounced back this last
month of the season, because I think it is also
very important, and you know this from basketball, it's very
important to see how the players react when things are

(01:52:17):
going poorly. That that's how that's how you know, And
I think that's why Willie Tagger got fired because they
didn't react, didn't react well. Great stuff, Joel say travels
uh to the Maryland. It's the Maryland game. Excuse me
to Columbus. Thanks for joining us. You got it, j K.
Joel Clatten joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show. Good
news for what NFL team and they're starting quarterback share
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Easter noon Pacific. We were all on here on the
Doug Gotlip Show. Let's get to the press, the press
by Buyer. Sorry I pinched you on. Let's get this coach.
Bill Callahan says that he isn't sure freaky quarterback dayne
Haskins will start Week ten against the Jets. Made his
first career or start this past week think against the Bills.

(01:53:02):
Fifteen forty four yards, no scores and no I N
T s either. Yeah, he avoided the Peterman, right, he
avoided the Peterman. But it's not good. They tried to
spoon feed him as much they could. Adrian Peterson over
a hungry yards rushing Yeah, and and and receiving a
threat as well. But that's what you'd ay you'd expect
in a first start. Be it's what you probably expect

(01:53:24):
against Buffalo. And see they're playing the freaking Jets. You know,
start them already. Yeah, why why would you mess around
with it? Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure either. Falcons made
some changes today, well kind of there. One in seven
dan Quinn just rearranged a bunch of coaches. Whehee, Morris
moves from like wide receivers two dbs, all trying to

(01:53:45):
change things after the bye week. He basically did the
tin cup right, put all the change in your left pocket,
and you're right, Yes, that's exactly what he did. Hawks
guard Trey Young's should return to action tomorrow against San Antonio.
Missed just one game with a sprained ankle. ESPN. The
first two report Young. Yeah, that's crazy considering how badly
he looked like he's spraining his ankle. But he was
having a great year before he got hurt. Blazers guard

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Damian Lillard says quote, I've never seen it when asked
about the Warriors. No, we're not clapping injuries. Were not
applauding that, but says I've never seen it when asked
about the Warriors injury issues they've been dealing with. He's
never seen it. Do a little history in the Portland Trailblazers,
I mean Bill Walden Arvidas Sabonis greg Odin. I understand

(01:54:27):
he means like on one team. By the way, we
told you this last Friday. I'll give you another one. Portland.
That line has moved from nine to It was nine
this morning, now it's twelve. I still like Portland. Damian
Lillard going into Oakland. The Warriors are terrible. They're hot, garbage.
What else? Uh? The Lakers. Anthony Davis got an award
Western Conference Player of the Week today for his efforts

(01:54:49):
last week. Jannasonteta coompo when the honor in the East.
What's interesting was last week Lebron was actually better Adrian
Anthony Davis has been better the whole year, but Lebron
was actually better less week and only dug No Russell Westbrook.
Tonight for the Rockets, it's gonna rest against the Grizzlies
after they were taken down by the heat. He had

(01:55:09):
the day off after after they had the South Beach
flew right, they're down the first quarter, You are all right?
Give me a pick tonight. Giants, Cowboys, Cowboys six and
a point favorite. Who do you like? Fire? How about them? Cowboys?
Cowboys music, Cowboys, Cowboys big cannot find a big enough

(01:55:33):
number six and a half. Give me the touchdown, Easy Cowboys,
Easy who tomorrow, Cold Be Easily Tomorrow. It stud gotlip
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