Jerry Jones is His Own Worst Enemy

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Who knew there were so many George Kittle fanboys out there?
My goodness. People get to that the Rockets remain the

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same Rockets that they've that they've always been. That's who
the Rockets are, That's who they want to be. Kind
of fascinating, fascinating to uh to watch what the Rockets
pulled off last night in a loss, but more the
chatter of today. But let's get to kind of the
story of the day, which maybe the story of the season.

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The Cowboys are fascinating. You know, it's been since they've
had back to back winning seasons. They've had two, if
not three, of the elite coaches of modern football on
their staff over the past twenty five years. Right, they
had Jimmy Johnson, of course, walked away from a championship

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team after winning back to back championships, handing Barry Switzer
their third title Switzer's first and giving one away. But
between Jimmy Johnson and of course Bill Parcels, and on
Bill Parcel's staff, it should be pointed out Sean Payton
was there, Sean Payton laughed and got the Saints job,
and the rest is history. So those are three of

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the most dynamic coaches in modern football. If you're gonna
start any list of the best ten coaches in the
NFL of the past twenty five years. Obviously Bill Belichick
heads that list, but Bill Parcels is right behind him,
and Jimmy Johnson only because he walked away, is probably
the guy who does not get his due like he should.

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But he walked away kind of in his prime. And
then you know, like, look, I feel like everyone in
the league knows how good Sean Payton is and and
sometimes we as fans lose perspective on where the Saints
were historically before he got in there, and after bounty
Gate here, they've been competitive to get back to the

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Super Bowl, and you know, to really really flukey plays
have kept him out the past two years. So we'll
get to all of that, but let's let's start with
the Cowboys and and and what Troy Aikman said earlier
today in there, this is Troy Aikman essentially saying why

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the Cowboys one haven't been able to get another big
time coach after Parcel has walked away, and to what's
been going on this year. We've got a head coach
who we know for ten years has been saying that
we're focused on Tuesday today. That's all we're worried about
is having the best practice today that we can possibly have,
and the owners talking about getting on a run and

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winning the Super Bowl. And you've got a head coach
who comes out and says we're gonna evaluate the kicker,
and then the front office says right after that that
they weren't evaluing the kicker. All those things have an
impact and it slowly trickles down. So I think there's
a lot of factors that have played into this. Coaching
obviously hasn't been great at times in certain situations, players
haven't played great, but the front office hasn't been great
and allowing the head coach to do his job either.

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It's not easy, and it's one of those things like
I told people before in this offseason that I send
did and I talked to NFL people and they all
kind of nodded their heads, which was which is kind
of kind of simple. Why couldn't the Browns have a
conversation have more deeper conversations with some of the big
name head coaches. Whether it's Lincoln Riley who kind of

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shunned it, turned it down almost immediately, whether whether he
turned it down with you read you know online or
read the papers, the fact is that they would have
loved to have Lincoln Riley in Cleveland. They love to
have a conversation with a bunch of different people. But
the problem is because Cleveland has turned over coaches so

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often because it's seen as a dysfunctional organization, it makes
it really really and look, John Dorsey is a powerful GM,
a guy who has a big voice, and he has done,
on paper a very good job of of changing that roster.
And then remember going into the off season, Baker Mayfield
was the most or second most powerful voice, meaning whoever

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took over that job as a coach, if things went wrong,
they were gonna get the blame. So it didn't make
it an attractive job. It remains a fairly unattractive job.
The Cowboys have the personnel and though there are some limitations,
I think most people feel at the very top with
the quarterback, he's gonna win a lot of games with

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and they have outstanding players, they have any anything facility
wise you could ever hope for, Like their practice facility,
which is really Jerry's world, is so good. That's where
they play. And then they got they play bowl games
that I know, they play a high high school state
championship there. Like it's ridiculous. They have They have done
everything in their power to make the Cowboys not only profitable,

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but a winner. At the exact same time, the reason
that job is not as attractive is you have an
owner who's making contradictory statements that don't fall in line
with what the head coach is making. And if we
go back to I've said this long when Jimbo Fisher
took the texts A and M job, he said, and
I'm quoting verbatim. Here, if everybody's not pulling in the

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same direction, it doesn't matter. You're not good, you're not
the likelihood of you winning becomes very, very slight. That's
the cowboys and and looked like Troy Aikman is always
a cowboy. He has the respect and has earned it
of Jerry Jones, of everybody in that organization. And he
has been honest all year in calling out, you know,
his a guy who is his backup, a guy who's

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his friend, the coaching mistakes that they've made, like he's
doing his job. And but but he's still a cowboy,
and he's pointing out like, hey, this is not helping
us win, not help we just win. Jerry is his
own worst enemy, and I can relate to that. I'm
my own worst enemy. I'm my own worst enemy. And

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now is it helping you win? At the end of
the day, where's Jason Garrett, who's solid, who's prepared, who's
a good leader? They're not he's a great coach or
he hires great coaches. Like Look, we can point to
the special teams being a disaster. It has been, but

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we can all point out that it's not like Jason
Garrett's coaching special teams. He's not calling plays, that's that's
Kellen Moore. He's not calling the defense and the scheme
that everybody says needs to be reworked. That that's not
his job, that's not his he but he's responsible for
all of it. But Jerry being Jerry, Jerry interjecting himself

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to every possible personnel move, Jerry not being aligned with
his head coach makes it increasingly difficult to have them succeed.
And if you want to know the real reason, they're
not able to have back to back winning seasons. And
the Seahawks are you know, not not back back to

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back ten win seasons. Haven't had it since? Is it
the fish bull that they're in? Sure? Is it Jerry
Wright and checks and over paying dudes and their egos
becoming inflated. Sure, But the reality of it is Parcels
and Jimmy Johnson couldn't do it long term, and those

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are two of the best, and those Sean Payton has
at times been potentially available. And maybe it's because they're
paying him so much money New Orleans. If Sean Payton
really wanted to be the coach of the Cowboys, you
could have done it. Now, I'm I'm sure part of them,
part of them thinking, man, we should have gone and
gotten John Gruden. They wanted to get John Gruden. They

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never one fired their coach, but they would have fired
their coach had they felt like they could get John Gruden.
And why couldn't they get John Griden because he didn't
want to make a decision that was overturned by Jerry Jones.
The coaches that will take those jobs aren't the elite
level coaches. The elite level coaches want to coach the

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great players, but they don't want to have their they
don't want to have their opinion overturned by the guy
cutting the checks. It's not how they want to roll.
So I think Troy Aikman has offered a ton of
insight this year in the NFL. Like he's been not
even close. He has been at the absolute top of

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his game, which is impressive to do it twenty years
and to keep pushing and teaching and it not gets
dale and boring. And I know it's a Super Bowl year,
but Troykman has been really good. He's been really opinionated,
and when he's sharing honest opinions about the Cowboys where
he said, Hey, the coach, he hasn't always been great,
but the front office has killed the coach's chances or

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hurt the coaches chances of getting their message through because
they're not all on message. They're not they're they're not aligned.
Doesn't mean you need to be yes men or to
be lemmings, and to simply agree with everything that Jason
Garrett wants or everything Jerry Jones wants, whatever, but openly
to the media, to the public, what is the what

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is the win? How is it helping us win? Remember
every coach you here talk about what it's called Kaepernick
or or other players like, we don't don't want distractions.
And it's true, and Jerry Jones is a distraction. In
an effort to take the blame office players, in an
effort to make Cowboys fans feel better, he ends up

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becoming more of a distraction. He's his own worst enemy.
And I thought Troy Hake been summed it up. Matt
marvelously speaking of the Dallas Cowboys, what is the firing
of Ron Rivera mean for Cam Newton and the future
of the Panthers, And for the future of Ron Rivera.

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We'll discuss next. Be sure to catch the live edition
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(11:14):
I know I'm getting old because when I use references
like the movie One on One with Robbie Benson, um
and uh and I and and it's it's the beginning
of the transfer portal, right, was the end of the
movie One on One. There's lots people like I have
no idea who that with them? When movie you're talking about,
maybe it should be remade, Maybe should be remade. Pretty

(11:38):
good one on one Robbie Benson. So I'll see if
it's on Amazon or or Netflix. Earlier today, Albert Brier
was on the Herd this morning, and of course yesterday
the breaking news was at Ron Rivera was relieved of
his duties. Four games left. Kind of curious timing, but

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it does. It does feel like Ron Rivera getting out early.
And you know, look, maybe it's David Tepper, the owner
walking and going like, are you kidding me? He lost
to the Redskins, You're all fired. It's a reasonable response,
it really is. But it's also the possibility that Ron
Rivera is like, look, I got a better shot at

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getting one of these jobs if I get out ahead
of this thing instead of you guys, I'm not gonna
be here united. Let's let's just move forward. Let Perry
Fuel get a chance to show what he can do.
By the way, Parry Fuel, then the name is not
spelled like fuel, but Perry Fuel. That is a that
is a rock star name. Rock star name. Anyway. This

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was Albert Brier earlier today on the Future the Carolina Panthers.
There's been no secret in that building over the last
couple of years that David Tepper, and this makes sense
because of his hedge fun background, that he wants a
very analytically driven organization. They're gonna involve sports science, so
they're gonna try to be very very forward thinking. I
think he felt like he needed a new coach. Is
part of what he was gonna do. I'm turning things

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over in that organization. Look, I replay that one more time,
take a listen again, and and I'll tell you what
I hear what some may miss. There's been no secret
in that building over the last couple of years that
David Tapper, and this makes sense because of his hedge
fun background, that he wants a very analytically driven organization.

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They're gonna involve sports science, so they're gonna try to
be very very forward thinking. I think he felt like
he needed a new coach as part of what he
was gonna do, um, turning things over in that organization.
He wants a much more analytical approach, right, Um, but
what does that actually mean? Right? Like? If you if

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you hear a guy say I want a much more
analytical approach, And of course you're replacing a coach who
is not a dinosaur, but as a former player kind
of old school mentality, I'm I'm sure he's not a
big analytics guy. But analytics driven data likes efficiency like sufficiency.

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And maybe you could make the case that what Lamar
Jackson is doing by shortening the game by getting first
downs via the run as well as via the path,
maybe that helps helps the analytics crowd. But generally the
analytics crowd is about efficiency. That's using statistical data to
find out the most efficient ways to be successful heading forward? Right,

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do you know who's not a great analytics quarterback? Do
you know who is not an efficient guy who throws
a ton of incompletions, who's always hurts, So obviously that
hurts his ability to be on the field and to
be efficient. Like, that's just not who Cam Newton is.
And so in our search, in our zest to find

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out what happens with Cam Newton, I put it out yesterday, like, look,
nineteen million dollars is not a ton of money. But
when you hear they want a more analytics driven approach,
that should tell you all you need to know about
how ultimately they will view Cam Newton, because there's not
a data guy in the in the country that comes
in and goes, oh, Cam Newton, Yeah, he's efficient. You

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can say he's tough. You can say he leads. You
can say he can make the big play when he's healthy.
He can run it, he can throw it, you know
you can. He has great experience, he's the face of
the franchise. You can say all of these things, which
are probably accurate. What you wouldn't say is that's an
efficient quarterback. You just wouldn't nobody would do would Um.

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We'll find out if last night's win for the Lakers
proof they are scheduled proof. We'll talk to Zach Harper
from The Athletic up coming next. Be sure to catch
the live edition of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three pm Easter noon Pacific. All right, let's welcome
in Zach Harper from The Athletic. He joins us here
in the Doug Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. I
want to start with the Lakers. What do we learn
from their win in Denver last night? There's still really

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good defensively. They slipped a little bit, even during that
wind streak. They slipped a little bit because I think
Abe Bradley not being around UM just kind of threw
things off a little bit. But man, that when that
team wants to lock down defensively, especially against you know,
a middle ings of mediocre offense, and that's what Denver
has been most of this year, especially with your kis
not really trying to establish himself. When they want to

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lock down, that's a dangerous lak. There's defense. Yeah, I
feel like one of the reasons their numbers have slipped
is they're playing a little bit better level of competition, right.
Obviously the wear and teyror on on older players, um.
But to me, to me, Carusoe has been the key,
right because it allows Lebron to guard power forwards or

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even switch to centers, especially when they go small. They
have a dynamic defensive group with their guards. And then
if Lebron James You're four at their fifth best defender,
you've got a really good team out there. Yeah. And
it's and it's about keeping Lebron engage, right, Like, I
don't think they can keep up this intensity defensively for
eighty two games. I think that's asking a lot out
of this group, um. And I think that's just not

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really what teams do anymore for the most part, because
they're expecting to play a hundred games this season with
the playoffs. But when Lebron can be engaged like that
and he can kind of pick his spots while still
being locked in and calling stuff out, and the way
Anthony Davis is defending, Like I've I've been very critical
of Anthony Davis's defense in the past. I think he's
been a good individual defender and I think he's been

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just an Okay, team defender, and I think the numbers
in New Orleans would mostly, you know, kind of back
that up. But the way he's defending under Frank Vogeo
so far, it's just a whole group like they're just
doing a tremendous job. Doug Otlive Show here on Fox Sports. Ready,
that's the voice of Zach Harper. What about what about Denver? Okay, Denver,
you know, their whole thing is continuity a right, we'renna

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keep it all together, keep the band together. Where are
we with Denver at this point in the season. Well,
that's the weird thing. There was the thirteen and five
and it feels like they're disappointing for some reason. And
you know, they've been the best defense in the league
up until this point. Uh, their offense has not been
that good. And I just look at Yokich and I'm
just wondering, does he want to be out there as
much as we want him to be out there, because

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he really hasn't done much this year in terms of
justifying any preseason m VP contention, hype, his his numbers
last year, his play last year was phenomenal, and I
don't know if it's a hangover from the Fever World Cup.
I don't know if he'd rather play call of duty.
Like I don't know what it is with Nikola Yokis,
but he just doesn't seem that interested to to be
a scorer and to be a guy who establishes himself offensively.

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They still run a ton through him, obviously because he's
their best playmaker. But I didn't at any point last
game other than maybe the last minute, did you think
this guy wants to dominate tonight? Like that's what he
should want to do against these guys. Yeah, maybe better
as the underdog than than as as the favorite. Mellow
struggles last night. Somehow you Western Conference Player of the Week.

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I don't really get that one. Like James Harden dropped
sixty eleven and they're like, yeah, let's give it to
Mellow because he can still make make buckets every now
and again. Um is it was? It was last week
just fresh legs, and this week is now we're starting
to see who he really is. I mean, like two
of the games against the Bulls, Let's be honest, right,
two games to get the Bulls game against a decent

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Thunder team, you know he got he got his legs under.
He played well even the losses except for that first game. Um,
you know, it's a nice story. I don't know if
it's Western Conference Player of the Week nice in terms
of that, especially with James Harden drops like ninety four
points in the in two games. I you know, Luca
Dotton's almost average of triple double for the week and
and it was really good. Like I don't know if

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it was that good. It felt a little bit like
when we gave the Hawks Player of the Month because
we just liked their story back in when team. But yeah,
like it's it's a nice story. It's good to mellows back.
It's good to mellows back, and he's actually productive, like
he's actually helped that team. But as the schedule gets tougher,
we'll see just how effective he can be in that role.
Zach Harper joining us here Doug Gotlick Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Why do you think the NBA's ratings are down? I
think it's a supply and demand thing. I mean, it's look,
it's a it's a lot. It's a lot to keep
up with, even if you are a die hard NBA
nerd like myself, right like it it is a lot
of games to keep up with. It's a lot too
to track. And I think in an age in which
attention spans are shorter and the chords getting cut, and

(20:31):
you're seeing more young people, you know, consuming things on
YouTube and highlights and shorter, bitch, getting people to dial
in for a game is tough and the easy uh
you know, no consequences. Uh. Type of theory is, hey,
just cut the games and you know, cut the games shorter,
the schedule shorter, and that will create more supply demand.
And I think that's great, except then you cut revenue

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and you will eventually make that revenue up. But you
know who doesn't like giving up revenue in the short term,
everybody involved in the NBA. And so I don't know,
I don't know how you fix that, right, Like I
think there are ways to fix it, I don't know
how you realistically fix it. But yeah, I just think
like until until people lock in the these games in
November December matter as much as the games in March

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and April. Like, yeah, you're just gonna have a rating
tip for a while and then and it's probably cyclical,
like it'll probably go back up and it'll be fine.
But until then, you know, it's panic. Zach Harper joining
us on the Doug Gottlip Show. Miami goes into Toronto
and gets when first team to beat Toronto on their
home Floorida. Of course, Toronto, you know, finally got their
starting point guard back, and Jimmy Butler spoils and he

(21:35):
outscores the Raptors by himself. Are you a buyer long
term in the Miami Oh? Absolutely, I think this Miami
team is fantastic. I mean, they the way they're playing offense,
it's the best offense they've had since Lebron was there,
which maybe isn't a huge bar to clear, but the
way they passed the ball, I mean, this is it's
it's truly beautiful basketball every single night. They can defend,

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defend all kinds of ways. Bama to Bio has been
a monster defensively for them. They can rotate guys in
and out of the lineup. I mean, this is a
spectacular team. I think there's still a player away, um
from from really making noise and maybe challenging for that
Eastern Conference title, But this is a team that no
one will want to face in the playoffs if they're healthy.
But absolutely no one. This is a this is a

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nightmare matchup in the playoffs. I'm I'm fascinated by the Clippers. Um. Obviously,
when healthy, they've been blasting fools. Have you seen these
numbers of the volume of threes that Paul George has taken,
like like just ridiculous, like Steph Curry type of numbers. Um. Yeah,
But there's questions there there there are questions about Kauai

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and how bad is the knee right? How like how
problematic is this? I've been told that this was all
part of the plan, like he's gonna play when he's right.
When he's not right, he's not gonna play. And everybody's
good with it because they know he's gonna play in
the postseason. What's you're taking the Clippers? So based on
what you've seen so far, Yeah, I mean I think
they're the best team. I think they have the highest

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feeling based on what we've seen, and I think they've
just barely begun to scratch the surface of it. Um.
But my concern is with Kauai's me. I don't think
it's good. I really don't like I think I think
there are problems with his me. I think it's worse
than they've let on. I think it's manageable, and I
think it's something that they're prepared to deal with and
prepared to Like, I'm with you, I think they knew
this was the case going into it, and as long

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as they get him into May and June, I think
they feel pretty confident that it's gonna work out, much
like it did for Toronto last year. But you have
to be concerned with it because if Kauai goes down,
it's just the same old Clippers again, right, And they
can be good, but they won't be title contenders. And
the whole reason to do all this was to win
a championship. There is no other mark that that is
accessible other than winning a championship for the Clippers with

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this group, and that is completely contingent on Kauai. I
think they could survive a playoff run without Paul George
if he went down. I don't think it would be easy,
but I can see that scenario. It will not happen
if Kai goes down. Um, what are the thunder is
sitting on a couple of assets? Where do they end up?
Oh that's a tough one. I mean I could see

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I could see maybe Milwaukee getting super aggressive and trying
to go after Gallo at some point if they feel
like they don't have enough. Um, they've got a few
few contracts. They can play around with it and maybe
some picks. Um. I think that the Chris Paul trade
is not gonna happen. I don't see. I don't think
anyone's gonna take on that money. I don't know how
this happens, but my ideal scenario is the Boston Celtics

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ending enough with Steven Adams. I would I would think
the Celtics are probably the favorites in the in the
East if they ended up with Steven Adams. Now, the
contracts make it super hard to deal with unless they
just decided to do a a Gordon Hayward for Steven
Adams trade straight up, And I don't think that's gonna
get it done for either side. But I like Steven Adams.
If he gets on the move. That is a guy

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much like Marcosol last year. That's the guy who changes
championship aspirations for anyone who gives them. Yeah, I mean
obviously they need they need somebody to, you know, to
deal with that big fella. Uh that's in that's in Philadelphia.
I think that's that's reasonable. I don't know if they
bail on Gordon Hayward because before he got hurt, he
was playing so well, right Like, I just that there's

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there's a certain amount of their almost pot committed to
Gordon Hayward, and you it feels weird to think that,
you know, in halfway through the third year, in considering
he missed an entire year, that this would be the moment.
But maybe that's that that's will all right. Let me
get to the Rockets last night. Um, he obviously had
a dunk which wasn't counted, and now they they now

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they you know there and it was a completely blown call.
But at the time they're up, they're up fifteen, and
I don't think that was the sole reason. That was
the sole reason that they lost. But this is the
complaining afterwards and the filing of protests and the offering
up to replay the game like this is Rockets one
oh one, like it's one bucket, go out and win

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the game. Uh am, I am I wrong to think, Yes,
the officials blew the call. And for for those of
you are missing James Harden, who had a had of
a bad fifty last night, eleven thirty eight. He goes
in for a dunk, would have put him up seventeen points.
It actually goes through the rim into the net, but
it's one of those super long nets that whips up
and then spits the ball back out the rim, and

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it was deemed to not be a basket. He goes crazy,
the whole place goes nuts and it's not overturned. Um,
this feels like same old Rockets to me. How about you? Oh?
I mean the Rockets are always asking to speak to
a manager like that is just that is your number
one mode. They're always asking to speak to a manager
like that is just what happened. Remember the dumb audit

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they had last year they leaked out about the previous
Western Conference. I mean, rich is just what they do
and and with like completely blown call. The soft of
Mike D'Antoni didn't get to challenge it because he couldn't
get clarification on what he was challenging within that thirty
second windows. It's dumb. It's a dumb parameters for making
the challenge when they're trying, like I'm with them on

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all that. The idea that they're leaking out that they're optimist.
Think the league will just give them the win or
allow them to replay the final seven minutes in fifty
seconds in which they blew a fifteen point lead and
then couldn't close an overtime or double overtime. Is assinine, Like,
this is the definition of the rock This is why

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people can't stand the Rockets. It's not it's not James
Harden hunting foul. It's that they complain about everything, complain
about everything. Ultimately doesn't work. No, the de lea like
it's a blown call. But no, no no, no, I mean ultimately,
I mean ultimately does the Rockets thing work? Oh? I
mean yeah, if James Harden, if James Harden plays more

(27:38):
of a team game and doesn't just settle for jumpers
every time the playoffs, yeah, I think I think it
will work. I think they're good enough. I think they
have been account I just don't know if they have
the mentality they have to change their mentality. Okay, but
but you're you're saying, if James Harden does something that
he has not previously done in any of the playoffs before,
what makes us think that he would change? You know,
sometimes you stare yourself in a mirror long enough, and

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you and you start, you know, one you first you're
checking out your outfit for the night, and then at
a certain point, you know, you get a little too
deep into your own eyes and you start wondering, noight,
do I need to change some things about myself? I
think that's possible. James Harden, You are forever an optimist,
aren't you. I try to be. I try to be,
especially when it comes to someone who's going to James Harden.
He should be. He should be trying to be better, right,
everybody should be trying to be the best version of themselves.

(28:22):
I just you're asking him last night he was four
of twenty from three point range, and then you're asking
him to suddenly gets in the playoffs and switch and
have a completely different mentality than the one he's had
for a decade. That's one of an m v P
that's given him a huge contract, that's allowed them to
build an entire team and system around him. I think
that's a stretch. I mean, Doug, it's not like they

(28:43):
missed twenty seven straight three in a game seven, you
know like that, don't don't find a way they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll,
they'll figure they'll figure out analytics. Guys sitting there going, hey,
you got just as good a chance to make it
the next one as he did the first one. There
is no momentum. Zach harpro fall falling on Twitter at
Talk Hoops and of course follow him and read his
work in the Athletic He doesn't outstanding job, Zach, great
catching up, Thanks for joining us. Appreciate Can it could

(29:07):
a Pro Bowl wide receiver be returning to action this Sunday?
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(29:27):
up on as many stories today as possible. We do
so by playing a game. This is game time side
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Steve di Seger, what is
the game of choice? All right? Do we have all
the uh knickknacks that we usually overproduce for these segments?

(29:50):
And then I say, usually to Sean Rambos what's the
game today? Real news? Fake news? There we go it is?
You just heard what it is. Well, I'll get the
item number one and I'll read the sports item, and Doug,
you tell me real or fake? Wide receiver A J.
Green will be making his debut of the season for
the Bengals this Sunday against the Browns. Is that real

(30:11):
news or fake news? Are fake news? So he is
still out this week after that ankle injury that's bothered
him all year. The team still thinks Green can return
to play this month before his free agency. Next item,
Arkansas met with Washington State head football coach Mike Leach
in regards to their coaching vacancy. Is that real news

(30:32):
or fake news? Real news? They're real and they're spectacular
if you believe the Football Scoop report this week that
Arkansas has met with Leech recently? Of course, there's nowhere
to go but up. If you've seen Arkansas football recently.
They lost at home this year to San Jose State
and Western Kentucky on the way to also going O

(30:54):
N eight in conference this season. Next item, Ottawa Senators
defenseman Mark bore Key thwarted an attempted robbery Sunday in Vancouver.
Real news or fake news sounds like it sounds it's
too bizarre to be fake. It's gotta be real. They're
real spectacle. Indeed, an article on NHL dot com about

(31:14):
this that Sunday. He was in town waiting for his
team to play Vancouver on Tuesday and stymied a robbery.
He was headed back to the team hotel after eating
lunch with teammates, stopped to do some shopping for his
newborn saw a suspicious man break the passenger side window
of the car. He here's this huge bang glass everywhere
and the man's yelling back at him, tell him and

(31:34):
go away. But the player crossed the street confronted the robber,
who tried to speed away on his bike, but the
Ottawa player hooked arms with the robber, knocked him off
the bike, and recovered the backpack he had stolen, which
had passports and other items inside. That is crazy, crazy
stuff that It's like, do you remember that TV show
What Would You Do? Yes? Yeah, right with the stage things.

(31:58):
But one of the things is not at everybody will
do the right thing. We all act like everybody's gonna
do the right thing. That's not the case. Yeah, this
is even beyond doing the right. This is like physically
getting involved with you never know. Uh. The Rays and
the city of Montreal have taken their talks of splitting
home baseball games between Montreal and St. Pete to the
next level, discussing a potential new stadium in Montreal. Is

(32:20):
this real news or fake news? Um? In Montreal, that's
real news, are fake news? The Tampa Bay Business Journal
says the Rays in the city of St. Pete have
ended negotiations about splitting the season between those two cities
and that it won't be an option before eight, which means,
is it likely that the team stays beyond seven in

(32:43):
Tampa Bay? That's a legitimate their least at Tropicana Field ends.
Then we haven't No, there's there's no new stadium planned,
and there's just it just hasn't hit, you know, it
just it just hasn't hit. Yeah, And they can complain
all they want about the drive from x placed to
the ballpark, but let's agree that it's really not a ballpark. Also,

(33:04):
even the Yankees can't draw flyes when they go and
visit sometimes at Tampa Bay, which is a bit shocking. Yeah,
I I just you know in terms of location, Like, look,
if you've ever been to Tampa, you know that because
of all the waterways whatever, there's no real one. You know,
You've got St. Petersburg Um, you have clear water, you
have all these other kind of surrounding communities which you

(33:27):
got to get in a car and go drive to side. Yeah,
I'm with you. I don't think that makes that holds
water at all, so to speak. The mayor wrote a
memo to the St. Pete City Council today and said
both parties have agreed best path forward is just abide
by the existing use agreement. So maybe they're writing their
own death warrant there. Zach Wheeler signs with the Phillies

(33:47):
five years, hundred eighteen million dollars. They were not the
highest bidder. Another team closer to the wife's famili's home
was more important for him and his wife at least,
so he says, yeah, we're closer if we picked the Phillies.
So we picked the Phillies. Is that the reason Wheeler
signs the five year deal? There? Real news are fake news?

(34:08):
Fake news, you are fake news. Ah yeah, Actually there's
a scoche of truth to this. I'm sure baseball is
the number one reason. But it is interesting that our
Ken Rowsenthal pointed out that the Wise family is from
New Jersey and so signing in Philadelphia does make it
closer than the White Sox. But let's just go with
baseball is the reason. And finally, yeah, and a hundred

(34:31):
eighteen million dollars uh ex astro our beloved producer Today
Ryan found this excesstro j D Davis said he didn't
know anything about the seventeen Astro's alleged cheating system. He said, quote,
I wasn't aware of anything, and even if there was,
I wish I would have known about it because I
only batted like two hundred or something. Actually it was
twenty four games and he batted two. Real news are

(34:52):
fake news, I mean the first part. Yeah, yeah, that's real.
They're real and their spectacular. One person says he didn't
know anything about the lsed cheating system that the Astros
employed in there. He was out of the loop. Yeah,
a guy who can idea, but would have known. I

(35:16):
would have played more than twenty four games. And that's
it for real news fake news. And we're back with
the press and a couple of hours. This is game
time on the Duck Gottlieb show. Boys and Niner fans
are nuts, right, So I was on uh Cowherd show,
this is like two days ago. We were talking about

(35:37):
Gronk and what's the matter with the with the Patriots offense?
And I pointed out that what was rare about Rob
Gronkowski is he literally could block like alignment, block like
aligneman and then was as good a pass catching threat
as we've seen now is he as agile or was
he his agile late in his career as a George
Kittle or a Tony Gonzalez Like no, But I pointed

(36:00):
out that most of the past catchers are not blockers,
and I said, you know, like George Kettle is not
really a blocker. And of course Niner fandom boy has
been like, well, why don't you watch Brian Baldinger's breakdown
of how great a blocker he is. You're an Aviott,
so look in in and kind of and this is

(36:22):
what always happens in in television. It's always the the
added remark which you probably didn't need to make your point,
which ends up coming back to get you, which the
point is that Gronks the unicorn and the Unicorn, George Kittle.
It was a good blocker. It's fine, it's good. He

(36:42):
might be the best as for the past catchers, the
best blocking tight end of the great pass catchers at
tight end of the league. He's not Rob Gronkowski. It's
not blocking defensive ends by himself. That's not what he's doing.
He's chipping, he's moving, he's got good feet against linebackers.
And you know this is to get on the field.
Diaowa had to block to get on the field. With
the San Francistic point, it's gotta be a block. They

(37:04):
want to run the football. So if if I said
I can't block, I didn't think I said, I said
he's not much a blocker. Was I was incorrect. He's
a much better blocker than I insinuate. Doesn't take away
from the point and doesn't put him in Rob Gronkowski's class,
And it doesn't change the fact that Gronk is badly
missed within their offense. All right, Coming up next, the

(37:28):
Rockets are the Rockets, and they can't escape their own windiness.
That's up coming next in The Doug Gotlip Show. Be
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(38:16):
there obviously my travels and her premature death was a
surprise and I could not get out of the basketball
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Love what you did. If you're just joining us and
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(38:36):
kind of a really well regarded legend in the industry
and unbelievably well liked. Like you know, I posted the
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wouldn't believe how many guests I've had that texted me
like I didn't know. I can't believe it. She was
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(38:58):
but also listening to it, giving feedback whatever. Like everybody
we've had on for the three years I've been at
Fox Sports Radio has been because of Cindy Catz. So um.
And that's not just my show, all the shows. That's
what she did to the machine, absolute machine. Um. I'm

(39:20):
I'm I'm interested in this Rockets thing. Did you guys
see what happened last night? Okay, so it was. It's funny.
I went to an NBA game with my son, went
to the Thunder taken on the Pelicans last Friday night,
and the Thunder had a really big first half lead
and then the Pelicans came stormy back. They had a

(39:41):
third quarter lead. At the start of the third quarter,
he said, Dad, Dad, what do you think is gonna happen?
And I said that son, listen, it's the NBA. It'll
be tied in the fourth quarter and likely the home
team makes a couple of shots, gets a couple of calls.
I bet the Thunder win. What do you think happen?

(40:04):
What doything happened? Like Dennis Shrewder hits a bunch of shots.
Chris Paul comes in, makes a floater late in the game,
low and behold. Game was tied in the fourth quarter
like eight minutes ago. Thunder end up winning. I'm kind
of going away. It's the NBA. It's always tied in
the fourth quarter. UM. Last night, the Houston Rockets went

(40:25):
to take on the San Antonio Spurs. Spurs aren't great.
Also haven't been healthy all year long. Um Boy Brent
Forbes has made himself into quite the NBA player. Rudy
Gay appears to be a little bit over the hill,
you know. DeMar De Rosen is like a throwback to
a previous era where you don't shoot threes. So they're okay.
They're kind of working progress team as they start to

(40:47):
get healthier and healthier. Lonnie Walker has given them a
spark as he's been in and out of the doghouse.
The Marcus Aldridge didn't play last night, and at at
one point time, one point time, it was bad. It
was a blowout, a complete bludgeoning at the hands of
the Houston Rockets. James Harden had a breakaway dunk and

(41:13):
he made the dunk like it was actually a made dunk.
And at the time I think they were up fifteen
seventeen points. So when he misses the it's called a
miss dunk right there. Up like, they're actually up twenty
points with three minutes to go in the third quarter.

(41:36):
But after this miss dunk, the Rockets kind of lost
their mind, and as does happen in the NBA, you know,
suddenly the home team makes a run and though they
entered the fourth quarter up sixteen, the San Antonio Spurs
forced overtime and they end up winning the game in overtime.

(41:56):
After the game, here's marked Mike D'Antoni. You know, we're
just playing defense, were quick getting back. We turned it
over silly and didn't get back, and then we lost
and they got hot and they made shots, and uh,
we just didn't do anything to combative. Yeah, Lonnie Walker
hit uh had a dunk and then hit two straight
threes that end up tying the game at one fift

(42:17):
with eleven and a half seconds to go in the game.
Game goes two overtimes and the Rockets end up losing.
Here's James Harden on what happened after the play. This
is the made dunk that was called a miss dunk.
There lots of tough the focus intensity after that those
next few minutes, Um, we just thought governance. Um yeah, look,

(42:46):
he's not wrong. You're incompetent to miss that call. How
you missed that? I have no idea if you're paying
attention to the game as an official, how you missed
that call. But the ball goes through the rim and
then the net pushes it back out up like spits
it spits it out, So you're not wrong for it
to be considered incompetence as an official. The Rockets have formed,

(43:11):
have uh not formed, have filed a legal protest with
the NBA over this call? Legal protest? Crazy? Right? So? Um, yeah,
you know, I I get it. I I completely understand

(43:31):
how you lose your mind, how you lose your focus.
We're trying to win a game on the road and
we get a breakaway dunk when they could have felt
like I sealed the game, a scream. It's James Harden,
our best player, who's got fifty Although it took him
thirty eight shots, he only made eleven in order to
do it. Look, I understand, I completely understand that you're mad,

(43:55):
but filing a protest and offering up that if the
if the NBA wants to replay the quarter, replay the game,
or just give them the win. That would be okay.
This is who the Rockets are. Again. I'm not saying
they're wrong. And I do get that a missed call

(44:17):
is as important a missed call missed two points, it
ended up being incredibly important, right, But Bro, you're up
twenty points with three minutes to go in the third quarter.
You can't win that game. You're so busy worrying about
this call, like did it have an effect on the

(44:38):
final score of the game. Sure, and you have every
right to feel like, but the idea of filing a
protest offering up to replay the game, like, really, you've
got to give us some sort of realistic solution, and
that's not one of them. But this is who the
Rockets are. Like, the Rockets still don't think they were
wrong for shooting twenty straight straight threes and miss sing

(45:00):
in Game seven of the Western Conference Finals two years ago. Something.
They don't don't think that. I don't think that way.
I don't think that way at all. You know, they
think that they had it right, that everybody else has

(45:23):
got it wrong. No, no, no, Remember last year they
formed a they had a study and they released it
right before the NBA playoffs that had look at all
the missed calls, in addition to the fact that it
ticks the rest off, like, yeah, I got it, we
missed a call er too, But to have a study
and how you should have won the game, you end

(45:43):
up looking like Winders. No one has ever done that
in the history of sport. You're not a trend setter.
You're the guy that's bitching and complaining about something a
year ago. Remember that study didn't come out until right
before the NBA playoffs, right before they're about to play
the Warriors, Like, oh, this is gonna help us get
a call because we didn't get a call last year.

(46:05):
Here's the calls you should have gotten, don't you straight
threes smisum. And this is why the Rockets won't work.
The Rockets have convinced themselves that if it doesn't work,
it's always somebody else's fault. It was Chris Paul getting hurt,
it was being unlucky, it was the officials, it was

(46:30):
the league. You know, James Harden can't get a call,
it's the refs, or maybe it's the rest of the
league telling you, hey, look the NBA playoffs has always
been officiated differently. You gotta find a way to get
more two's, you gotta find a way to get more stops.
The way you play in the regular season, not the

(46:52):
way you play in the postseason. And if you're gonna
go back and bitch about every miscall, one of the
third order of a game you lost in the fourth
quarter in double overtime, two points taken out the board, which, look,
it was a blown call. I'm not disputing it. It
just speaks to who the Rockets are to the rest

(47:12):
of us, and if we have that opinion as fans
and pundit's damn damn right. The NBA has that, whether
it's the officials or the leaders of the league. That's
not a reputation you want. You don't want the reputation
of if something doesn't go right, it's always somebody else's fault.
I got a lot to get to this hour. A

(47:35):
potential Hall of Fame quarterback is getting his farewell tour,
just not the way or not the one that he
would have wanted. I'll explain next. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m Easter noon Pacific. Doug gotlip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. So this kind of worked out

(47:58):
nicely for Eli Manning. Right, Daniel Jones gets hurts in
a walking boot. You know they they obviously saw Dania
Jones the air apparent. They gave him plenty of run.
And now the sudden, Eli Manning is going to get
a chance to to start the last couple of games,
get to start against the Eagles. Oh and this is

(48:19):
one of those I look, it's actually a great lesson
for all of us. And I'm just as guilty of
this as as athletes are, and maybe you are in
life too. It's very easy when you get demoted to
feel sorry for yourself and to look for another place.

(48:40):
It's very very easy. Do you get passed over for
a promotion? You know, Look, at some point in time,
you gotta feel like it's your time and maybe you
have to go elsewhere, or at least have the threat
of going elsewhere that this is a reasonable thing. Eli
Manning was benched by the Giants after just two games.
Now sudden, he's very likely to start on Monday night

(49:03):
against the Philadelphia Eagles. Eli said, obviously, we'll see what happens,
but business as usual in a sense of get the
game plans, start prepping for Philly going against a good defense,
but also a defense we faced for a number of years.
Know him well. Just get back in the mix of
the offensive line, receivers, make sure the time he is
where it needs to be. There is an interesting look.

(49:25):
He's not gonna win a super Bowl the way his
brother did, but it is interesting that his brother essentially
benched for um what is his name, brock Oswiler during
his last season. His brother through nine touchdowns seventeen interceptions.
This is the great Peyton Manning. And then of course,
right before the playoffs was back, named starter and led

(49:48):
them I'm doing lead with the quotations, led them to
a super Bowl. So Jones was injured his ankle on
a quarterback sneak on fourth down in the second quarter.
Who's win sing? He had his ankle checked and taped
in the sideline before returning to the game. He claimed
to be fine on Monday before being sent for an
m r I as discomfort persisted. My guess is could

(50:10):
he play? Yeah, it's the playoffs and he could play.
Daniel Jones game is based upon his mobility, this will
hurt it. And if this is the way to get
Eli a couple more starts and feel good about himself
and feel good about how it ends up, it was great. Look,
it's not how you envision it. It's not how you
envision it. But if you're Eli Manning like for not

(50:33):
throwing a complete fit the way I think his people
did last time, like all of that negativity around benching Eli,
part of it was Gino Smith. It's really hard to
play Geno Smith in the state of New York or
in in that stadium, same when he occupied as the
Jets starting quarterback in the world is welcome. But I
also think that ed Eli supported him. Ed Eli been

(50:53):
what he's been to Daniel Jones, And granted this was
much this is an arranged marriage. I'm talking with Daniel Jones,
but had Elive been that way, it wouldn't have been
as as volatile as volatile. So now he stays ready,
he gets an organic opportunity, it's not forced, and everybody's

(51:15):
gonna feel good about how this ends. But this isn't
always stay ready kind of scenario. Always stay ready, always
be ready, because you never know when your number is
gonna be called. And if you you know, I have
a friend in college basketball who technically got demoted on
his staff and he lost a little bit of money.

(51:35):
You know, his comp car changed, like everything changed. And
it doesn't mean that he's not a good coach. I
completely disagree with what the head coach decided and why
the head coach decided. But it was interesting. The other
day he was in the head coach's office talking about
something else and the head coach said like, hey, what
do you think about the team work upcoming and plan?

(51:56):
And I said, well, I think this, this and this,
so we should probably do this now. It didn't get
him his promotion back, but it showed that he's still
invested in the team and still ready whenever called upon,
whenever called up. And that's what Eli Manning has done.
He's a pros pro and this is going to be

(52:19):
his farewell tour. We'll see if the last all four games.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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search f s R to listen live. Okay, so tell
me the details of this Angels deal. They're staying They

(52:40):
had the pressure. Remember, hey, we can always go to
Long Beach. And so the city of Anaheim, which is
owned the thing since the Angels moved there in the sixties.
The stadium I'm talking about, is going to sell artie Moreno,
essentially sell cheap the stadium and all the parking lot
property around which they had started to build on in
the last twenty years. And so d three acres for

(53:02):
million dollars. That is a sweetheart of it. And of
course the Angels, being owners, they can decide whether to
revamp or do nothing to the stadium or build on
their own parking lots. They will own all of that
and the Anaheim City Council. In a couple of weeks
they'll get the agreement formally. Then yeah they I mean
they're gonna have to completely redo the stadium it was

(53:28):
years made it a ballpark again. Yes, yes, um, that's
gonna be interesting to see what they do. They build
a stadium right next to it in the parking lot,
which is an option. Obviously parking would be an abject
disaster for the probably two years it takes to build it,
or do you gut it and redo it. If you

(53:48):
gut it and redo it. Do you do it the
way they probably do what they did with the l
A Coliseum, which is you do you know it's like
a three year plan, right, you do the outfield one year?
Talk about you one side on one side of the Yes.
But there is there is parking at the Big A, right,
I mean what people who don't know like what we're talking.

(54:08):
This is where the Rams used to play. UM. So
it's a stadium that although the parking is not, you know, perfect,
it's pretty. It's really built for seventy five thousand seats
in terms of the amount of parking that they have. Now.
They built some apartments on it where players can live.
There's some bars. They want to entertainment district, which I
don't know if that ever takes off. UM, but this
will be really interesting. And obviously they had to get

(54:31):
the stadium thing fixed because you got Mike Trout and
you're trying to go out and get coal. Uh, Garrett Cole,
you you need to have it. You're gonna have an
an elite level team with the best picture on the
market and the best hitter in baseball, then you might
want to have a stadium that's not you know, when
Oakland's get replaced, it will become the worst stadium in

(54:52):
baseball they don't fix it. Yeah, well that's a whole
separate discussion, the whole Oakland stadium thing. We talked about
Tampa Bay last month. Man Oakland, this has been going
on forever. Yeah. Now now they have their they have
their new they have the architects h K S HCS
did the Viking Stadium, which is spectacular, but they also
did the Dodgers Stadium and the renovations so which I've

(55:14):
been numerous, which have been numerous, but the Dodgers have
really they've kept it true to who they are and
what it is about while modernizing the stadium. They've done
as good a job as anybody's done. And the Dodgers
were staying there, and they knew they were staying there,
kind of like Fenway with the Red Sox, and they
had that as sentence number one. Okay, and then now
what did we do? And the Dodgers were so rich
they just double shifted everybody in the off season and

(55:36):
finished a lot of pretty massive renovations all in the
off season that nobody ever saw the progress of. You
just showed up an opening Day and my goodness. Now
we've got this m hm. So it's it's gonna be
really interesting to see what they do. But but obviously
this is uh, this is part of kind of the
grand plan there and million dollars sounds like a lot

(55:58):
of money, but for hundred and thirty three acres, which
a massive parcel of land in southern California with nothing
on it alone, it's you know, the dirt is probably
worth north of what they paid. It's been listed. What
is it, Yeah, hudt three acres. You can do a

(56:19):
lot of stuff on that on that land. Wow, that's
that's remarkable, really really surrounded already by a lot of
things within a mile or two in Anaheim, including on
that street. Yeah, yeah, I would say, yes, I don't know,
surrounded by is fair. Yes, there's the basketball arena, which

(56:42):
also needs to be redone right, the hockey Ducks. Now
it's a hockey arena, but they had madness there last year. Yeah,
but it's a dump. I mean they just know. I mean, like,
look it's in When I was in high school, it
was a palace. It was built in the early nineties
to get the Clippers. But they haven't done anything really
to upgrade it since you know, a couple of little things,
but I mean that needs that one needs to be

(57:03):
massively redone as well. Otherwise they would have had an
NBA team um or you know, at least had a
chance at at a third NBA team. The Ducks put
people in the seat, so it doesn't matter. But the
Angels of obviously reached their breaking point. The other stories,
the Mets have been sold, right, so how does this
thing work? So Ken Rosenthal is reporting this that the

(57:24):
Mets have been sold, but the Wilpons are gonna stay
kind of in power for five years, like the five
years almost like at least to buy sort of thing
in the things that don't work out well when new
owners don't actually get to own for five years. Oh
and you just lost Zack Wheeler. Oh. I don't love

(57:47):
predicting gloom and doom, but in this particular case, I'm
going to predict some gloom and doom that doesn't that
doesn't seem great. That doesn't seem great does it to
anybody else? Like the the devil is in the details
of all of these stories, and the details are that
that the Mets are kind of being sold. Well, they

(58:11):
are being sold, but they're being sold on like a
five year plan. The Wilpons obviously have. I have struggled
to by some people's estimation pay at the level of
the Yankees, Like I just think met fans are insane,
I really do. They were in the World Series a
couple of years ago. They've been in playoffs several times
in the last half half half dozen years. I think

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two times last last half dozen years. Granted, you'd like
to be as successful as the Yankees, but guess what
you're not the Yankees. Yes, the Madeoffs got caught up
in the Bernie Madeoff scheme, but they actually made money
in the Bernie Madoff thing, or at least that's what
we're we're being told. There's a lot to it, but
to sell the team but still run the team for
five years before the sale transfers. That feels like a

(58:56):
story that doesn't end up right. It just does. It
feels one It doesn't. Yeah, um, all right, I want
to share with you this story we're working on. Daniel
Jeremiah Moved the Sticks podcast. Bruce Arians, who has cited
Jamis Winston as a major concern when he came out

(59:16):
of retirement declined to say whether or not Winston be
part of the organization's plans after this season. He was
asked today if he was to sit down with ownership
this week and asked him for evaluation, if he'd unequivocally
say that Winston is the starting quarterback going forward. I'm
gonna pass on that one, said Arians. I'm gonna wait

(59:37):
until the end of December. Sources have told ESPN that
the organization remains undecided on winston status going forward. He's
continued to struggle with turnovers, throwing a league high twenty
interceptions to go along with twenty two touchdowns. This year,
He's turned the ball over a hundred one times, the

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most since any player in the league since two thousand fifteen.
Arians has continually pointed out that many of those turnovers,
not all, are on Winston, and he's he's praised him
for his ability to handle two minute situations. There's been
really really really good and there's been some really really
really bad. I'm gonna pass until it's over and then

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we'll make a decision. Now, generally, you guys know how
I feel on this. This is like if you're asked,
are you going to marry her? And you've been dating
for four years. You've been dating for four years? Are
you gonna marry her? You're like, well, there's some really
really good there's some really really bad. I'm gonna wait

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until after Christmas. See how that goes. Like, No, you're not.
You've made your decision right. If you continue to be
indecisive publicly on what your future is, then privately we
know you are decisive. And generally it's to the negative
because people don't want to the negative just causes too

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much of a sturb. On the other hand, I do wonder.
I do wonder if arians process is a completely fair
one and he really does one away to the end
of the year. And here's what I mean by that. Look,
he didn't take over a guy with a blank canvas.
He took over a guy who UH had been had

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They didn't have a good offensive line for several years,
he was thrust in the duty, didn't get time to learn,
and maybe he didn't like how he was coached by
Dirk Cutter, right, And I don't know, but how he
finishes is really really important. I mean, think of the
breakdown in terms of the game logs this year, and
you'll get a kind of a better sense of what

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Bruce arians may be working towards. You know, he had
no interceptions in a win over Jacksonville. He had three
touchdowns but two interceptions in a win against Atlanta. So
they've won their three of their last four games. The
loss was to New Orlean, and he had four interceptions.
Just too many. But let's see if he can put

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together three or four games in a row where he
minimizes the turnovers generally. Generally, I would believe that five
interceptions against Carolina, four interceptions against New Orleans, three interceptions
against San Francisco. You know, those are the good teams
that they've played. Granted, he didn't throw a pick against

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Seattle in an overtime loss, but against the good teams
that they've played, he's just turned it over way, way
too much. And in addition to Cam Newton not being efficient,
that's an inefficient way of trying to win football games.
Everyone who's ever followed the sport knows he who turns
it over the most is less likely or least likely
to win. So I look at this thing, and I

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think they've pretty much come to a realization that Jamis
isn't there guy. But they're gonna allow him the last
four games. Maybe he stops turning the ball over the
last four games, and maybe they end up going on
a run and being successful, and you convince yourself that
we've been able to fix this thing as the season's
gone on, and look what happened after twelve games. But

(01:03:11):
usually when you say publicly you don't know, and you've
had plenty of time, plenty of time to know, you
do know, you just don't want to tell people the
answer because generally it's not the one they want to hear.
All right, coming up next, we'll get to what the
Fox said, including Clay Travis I believe, I believe miss

(01:03:35):
speaking on quarterback play. That's next. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app Doug Gotlip Show Fox
Sports Radio. All Right, Doud, let's let's welcome in Danna

(01:03:57):
Jeremiah Move the Sticks as the podcast of course you
see the NFL network and uh he has been fortunate
to cause so many close games with with the Chargers.
Um honest question, Anthony and Lynn in any danger of
losing his job. I don't think so, Doug. You know
when you look at the last couple of years, you know,

(01:04:17):
last year twelve and four, the first year, year nine
and seven, Um, you're in every single football game. This year, Uh,
you know, I don't think so. I think the injuries
will be taken into account and you hope that, uh,
you know, things kind of swing your way next year.
You know, last year, all those close games, all those
you know, the bounces kind of went their way for
lack of a better term, And this year it's I've

(01:04:39):
never seen anything like it, man, I have absolutely never
seen anything like it. There are five of the weirdest
endings of the football games I've ever seen. I thought
that the past interfairs called was a joke, like it
was so bad. It was it was it was laughable.
Was that it was a fairly uncatchable ball. The defender
turned his head the last second, so usually get credit
on it. The wide receiver basically ran into the defender

(01:05:01):
just to to flop and to decide a game. On
that call, it was just I thought embarrassing to the league. Yeah,
you know, I'm always careful, like, hey, I'm you know,
I called it. I called the games on the team broadcast.
I'm trying to be as objective as I can here. Um,
I just you know, it's one thing. It's one thing.

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It's bad enough to make that call on the first quarter,
but to end the football game on that call, I
just I don't I don't see how you can do that.
And to me, the whole key was turned around and
finding the football by the letter of the law that
he had cut him off. Yeah he did. Was it catchable? No? Um,
do you turn around and trying to locate the football? Yes,
And to end the football game on that uh man.

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That was again, just a brutal, brutal way for the
Charges to lose a football game. And I'm not even
sure that's top three for the season in terms of
how they lost the game. Yeah, Tennessee, you know, Tennessee.
Fumbling the ball twice in a row at the goal
line has got to be the worst. That's the That's
number one on the list. And then you can go

(01:06:03):
to the Raiders game with eight plays where you don't
game the yard other than a five yard penalty, where
all you need is a field goal to win that
football game. Picking the end zone to end the Kansas
City game, Um, the Detroit game picking the end zone, uh,
in the last minute. I mean, it's it's been incredible.
What do they do with Philip bres Yeah, you know,

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it'll be interesting to see what happens and coming down
the stretch here, Um, you know, just you can look
at it and say, okay, you know, might be one
of those situations where he decides at the end of
the year. It's it's you know, he wants to go
in another direction. The Chargers could come to the same conclusion. Um,
and it couldn't be amicable split, but um, you know,
like they've got to get through the rest of this year,
maybe they kind of you know, you start seeing what

(01:06:46):
you saw last year and that changes the thinking for
all parties involved. But it's hard to look at it
right now just objectively and say, okay, this is something
you can you can lock in for next year, because
I don't think anybody could say that at this point
in time. No I don't don't. I don't think so either.
But uh, you know that is I mean, that would
be a massive, massive change, and you know, do you
want to start over essentially when you have such an

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outstanding roster. Obviously, they can probably have to redo Bosa
in the off season as well. Um, but but with
such an outstanding roster, do you want a young quarterback? Yeah,
I mean that's a great point, and you're gonna have
to get Hunter Henry done this offseason. I'll imagine that.
You know, you can franchise him worse comes to worst,
but you've got to get Joey Bosa done long term. Um,

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you know, Austin Ekeler, somebody's be coming up soon. You know,
you try and find a way to keep him because
of his unique skill set, a lot of talent, and
you could you could very easily sit in that room
in the personnel department at the end of the year
and say, hey, you know, this wasn't phillips best year.
He'd be the first to admit that, but man, we're
in every single football game. We're gonna be healthier, Let's
let's get some pieces on the offensive line and we

(01:07:51):
can you know, we're we're close to being right back
out there. So yeah, I think a lot of that
is is weird to say it, Doug, because he's Phillips
played forever, But it seems like there's a hyper focus
and intensity on what he does in these last four
games and and really a season where everybody knows you're
not going to the postseason. Yeah, but I actually think
it's fair. I mean, like, look the Raiders thing you

(01:08:11):
point out, like what was he doing? He had guys
wide open underneath the Lions game where he threw the
end zone, he had a guy underneath that could have
kicked the field go enforced over time like you know
last week. Yeah, I mean that that's that's on you.
A lot of these are are on I don't like
putting losses on quarterbacks, but you can put the losses
on him as a quarterback. Yeah, I mean they've been crucial,

(01:08:34):
crucial decisions at uh at end of football games that
that have have cost him some games. Now again we
can look at the offensive line woes and he said,
you know, to me, I think you can make the
case a little bit of the the cause and effect
of getting hit early in games, which speeds him up
a little bit. You know that that's that's an issue
that that's that's tough for him, is when he gets

(01:08:56):
hit a bunch early, it causes this whole process to
speed up. And then I can lead you to some
bad decisions later on the game, and that's what we've
seen so Um. If you're a Philip Rivers believer, you say,
let's fix the offensive line, um, and you'll see that
directly impact the poor decisions in the turnovers. If you
don't believe in him, you say, look, he just he's
not taking care of the football. And you can't win

(01:09:17):
the ultimate prize if you don't do that. Doug Otlet
Show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's the voice of
of Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks to the podcast. NFL
network is the network's let's kind of work our way backwards.
I thought Monday Night Football is the perfect about him.
And Kirk Cousin is a good quarterback. He's good, but

(01:09:38):
there's seems to be a reason he doesn't win those
games and Russell Wilson finds a way to win those games.
Is that is that? Is that too much? Is that
putting too much of the win and loss on the
quarterback shoulders? Let me spin it, let me try and
spend it. Semantically, I think we're gonna say we're basically
saying the same thing. I'm not Kirk Cousins is not

(01:09:58):
the reason why they lose football games. He's also not
the reason why they win football games, if that makes
any sense whatsoever. It is what it is. I mean,
he's he's dependent. He's a dependent player. He's a good player,
but he's dependent. And I you know, when you look
at Russell Wilson, there's you know, he's the one you
depend on. He's not dependent on others. And every time

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in those in those crucial moments, no matter what's taking
place earlier in the game, there's just a calm over
the entire organization and the team and the stadium that
we all know how this is gonna end. Um. And
I just think when you look at Kirk is a
good player, but in those moments, I don't think there's
anybody that's not biting their fingernails. Yeah, okay, what about

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the Patriots. How fixable are their issues? You know? But
it's it's not great. I mean I think that they're
they're fixable issue the way they fix it and how
they try and find their formula, which they're so good
at just finding whatever that formula is. It's gonna be
just run the living tar out of the football. And

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and they've gotten a little bit healthier upfront along the
offensive line, those big receivers, um you feel more comfortable
with them blocking than what they do out in the route.
So it's gonna be ugly football. And just try and
control the clock, don't turn the ball over. Every drive
that ends in a kick is your friend. And uh,
and hope you can grind your way through some of
these games. But I just they in the past, they've

(01:11:23):
been equipped if they needed to in a shootout to
be able to go that route. They couldn't do it
sixteen weeks, but they could summon up that type of
offense in a game here there. I don't see them
being able to do that, which you know that that's
to me is gonna be a big challenge with Kansas
City this week. You know, can they get enough offense
because you know they're gonna score? Yeah, you do, you
do that, They're gonna score, And I just I think

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that's the freak out. Uh, that's got to be the
freak out, right when when you're Tom Brady is you're
looking ahead and you're thinking, all right, we can probably
hold the Ravens back some. You know they're not going
to score forty on us next time, but can we
Can we get to twenty five? Can we get to thirty?
And right now the feeling is no and with and

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you know Kansas City is gonna score and if not
for the one off side, they wouldn't score enough for
him last year. Yeah, yeah no. And to me, I
think you if you're Bill Belichick, you're you're employing your defense.
You know, stops are not good enough. Um, they have
got to produce turnovers. They've got to give this this
offense short fields. Um, if they're gonna find a way
to beat the elite teams, you know, the top tier

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teams that they will see in the postseason. So that
a lot of pressure to put on your defense. What
have we learned about Lamar Jackson? Um? You know what's fascinating,
Doug is is I've talked about this with Baldy the
other day. UM, I'm curious to see what happens when
teams make the following adjustment because the unblocked defender that
they read off of on the line in that in

(01:12:46):
that San Francisco game crashed on mark Ingram the entire game,
leaving Lamar Jackson for the second level defender, whether it's
a linebacker or safety, which would match him up in
space with Lamar Jackson on the perimeter. Sometimes that second
level defender got us, couldn't find the football, Lamar was unchecked.
Other Times they made the correct read, bounced out with
Lamar Jackson and couldn't get him on the ground. And

(01:13:08):
I just keep watching this going. When are they going
to have the free defender up front, the first one
to the mesh point between the quarter quarter running back, quarterback?
Put the ball in the running backs hands and take
your chances between the tackles with all that traffic with
mark Ingram, do not do not let the quarterback get
to the perimeter and hope that you're gonna be able

(01:13:28):
to get him down in space. It's not gonna happen.
I would much rather lose with the ball and mark
Ingram's hands than in Lamar Jackson's hands. But that adjustment.
Maybe it's this week with Buffalo, but I watched it
every week on tape and I go, what is this
gonna happen? And it does not happen. So I'm curious
to see whoever, whoever decides to go that route. But
I'm still waiting. Yeah, I think it's interesting. Are we

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waiting for the playoffs. Is that a gentleman's agreement, We're
not gonna hit your quarterback? I mean, I I mean
obviously the he was going out of bounds, but he
was not yet out of bounds, and they called front sportsmanlike.
But that's that's way on the sideline. We're talking in
the backfield. No, I'm talking about that is that you
do not want him to get out. So to me,
it's a lot easier to tackle the mar jackson as
he's riding the running back, you know, with the ball,

(01:14:12):
with the ball, as opposed to trying to tackle him
when he's got you know, he's out on the perimeter
and you've got ten yards and he's got a two
way go good luck. He is too phenomenal of an athlete.
You're gonna lose that a lot more times than you're
gonna win it. Um And I'd much rather give up
the six yards to mark Ingram. You know. That to
me is just it's it's it's weird because I don't
think these defensive linemen, if they haven't seen this, they're

(01:14:34):
uncomfortable being unblocked. You know, They're more comfortable trying to
fend off a double team than they are being the
you know, the read guy who's not getting touched. It's
just it's not a situation they find themselves in very often. No,
no question. I last thing, Ron Rivera gets fired one,
Ron Vera get another job in two. How does this
affect camp? I think it's a clean reset there in Carolina.

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Um so, I think you know, I think that kind
of plays into that. And I would think Ron Rivera,
depending on the number of openings. You give me four openings,
I can't find four better coaches than Ron Rivera. I
think he gets another job in the cycle Cowboys. UM yeah,
I mean you could make that makes a little bit
of sense. But you know, offensive coach seat to me

(01:15:15):
is a little more. There will be a little more
of their style. But you go from offensive coach defensive coach.
Remember you had Cam Newton. I don't know, it's it's fascinating.
Move The Sticks is the podcast. Check out Dan Dania's
jeremiad the NFL networking of course calling Chargers games as well. DJ,
great stuff, man, Thanks, I appreciate you. All Right to
Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, speaking of

(01:15:37):
Ron Rivera, all right, here's what I do want to
do coming up next? Um something Troy Aikman said earlier today,
how it relates to Jason Garrett and why Ron Rivera
might be the answer that's next to The Doug Gotlip Show.
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Got some college football thoughts for you. Also, Clay Travis
said some about to to via logo who, which is
though accurate, it's a it's it does speak to why
Lamar Jackson fell in the draft and why I think

(01:16:24):
Marcus Mariota is going to be a viable commodity in
this upcoming off season. Get to all that. Troy Aikman
was on the ticket today in Dallas, Troy Aikman cours
Hall of Fame Quarterback Ring of Honor with the Cowboys
three time Super Bowl champion in the lead. NFL analyst
for Fox to be calling the Super Bowl this year
with Joe Buccaneer and Andrews. He had this to say

(01:16:45):
about the Cowboys season. We've got a head coach who
we know for ten years has been saying, we're focused
on Tuesday today. That's all we're worried about, is having
the best practice today that we can possibly have, and
the owners talking about getting on a on and winning
the Super Bowl. And you've got a head coach who
comes down and says we're gonna evaluate the kicker, and
then the front office says right after that that they

(01:17:06):
weren't evaluing the kicker. All those things have an impact
and it slowly trickles down. So I think there's a
lot of factors that have played into this. Coaching obviously
hasn't been great at times in certain situations. Players haven't
played great, but the front office hasn't been great and
allowing the head coach to do his job either. Strong
words from from Troy Aigman and accurate words al right,

(01:17:28):
like you hire people, you gotta let them do their job,
you gotta let them do their job. So I just
I think, um, I think that what Troy is saying
is he's he's placing a substantial amount of accountability on
the coaching. He's not doing one of these. Jason Garrett's

(01:17:51):
my guy. Back off at Jason Garrett, He's not doing
one of these. Jerry Jones owned the team, and Jerry
Jones he's always he's just look this. You know how
Jason Garrett coaches. You know what it takes to be
successful in the NFL, and this is not it. This
is not it, which of course takes it takes away

(01:18:14):
from a lot of the big name coaches, like there's
a way, there's a reason Bill Parcel has walked. There's
the reason Jimmy Johnson walked. Those are two best coaches
he's ever had. There's the reason that happened. And Sean
Payton has never come back. Is he well compensated by
New Orleans Shore. But if he wanted to come back,
he could have been coach of the of the Cowboys.

(01:18:36):
Why wouldn't you. Do you think it's an affinity to
Drew Brees or do you think it's I don't want
to deal with that. I don't want to I don't
want to say one thing. And then the owner contradicted me,
contradicted me. We all have to be pulling in the
same direction. And when the dysfunction becomes public. Generally, it's
when the relationship ends. Like I think we're all under

(01:18:59):
the Unless the cow Boys make a run in the playoffs,
he's probably gone. I do wonder if they win a
playoff game and losing a close playoff game, if he
keeps his job, and I don't think that's out the
realm of of likelihood of happening, Like we were all
they gotta get to the NFC champion game, Like okay,
well what if they lose on a crazy play but
they played really well, or what if you know, they

(01:19:21):
win in very fortunate circumstances. You can allow results that
That's what happened with a lot of Eagles fans is like, well,
Nick Foles wanted the super Bowl. He's better than Carson Wentz. Like, no,
he's not. Can't beat out Gardner Minshew, he's not. He's
a great dude, a great backup, and in the rights
scenario he can be a starting quarterment. But he's not

(01:19:43):
better than Carson Wentz. But we let the results determine it,
not realizing that, you know, the Vikings shouldn't even been there.
Plus they're starting case Keenum could have lost to the
Falcons at home Falcons a Dome team. No, and yeah
they beat the Patriots, but the Patriots didn't play Malcolm

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Butler didn't have a strong defense that year. And it's
just one game. Who fools is over the life of
his career is more in line with getting benched. He
gets hot, rioted, he gets cold, hop off. But as fans,
we become so result oriented. You know, it's interesting Ron

(01:20:28):
Rivera was fired yesterday or whatever. How do we want
to determine it? Right? He was told not to come
back to work and he said, okay, I won't come
back to work. But it does put him in the
market to be a head coach this upcoming season with
somebody else. And if I'm if I'm being on, what
what do we do with coaches? Same thing with leaders

(01:20:48):
of companies? Right, Like leaders of companies go from you know,
like a right brain kind of abstract thinker to a
guy who's managed ng all of the finances every company
has run this way. You the pendulum swings our governments
that way. It's very hard to go from like we

(01:21:10):
have a we had a democrat in office for eight years.
He was wildly popular. But when he leaves, and of
course Joe Biden didn't run, but when he leaves, the
pendulum swings to the other side and eventually it'll swing back.
Like that's what happens in coaching, or I mean like,
look in business, that's what you do. I've been at

(01:21:32):
three companies now. Anytime there's been a leadership change, the
personality has been a one eighty in terms of leadership style.
You go from a guy who's always create a creative
type to somebody who's like, look all that creatives great,
but show me how it actually makes sense in terms
of dollars and cents. That's almost every company I've ever
heard of, and all three companies I've worked with in

(01:21:52):
in sports media, the same thing happens in coaching. You
go from young coach to experience coached. You go from
experience coach an experience. You go from offense to defense.
You go from right brain thinker to left brain thinker.
Jason Garrett got the job. He was really young, he
was inexperience. Ron Rivera is a defensive guy. Jason garrettsons
offensive guy. Ron Rivera is very experienced, and though Ron

(01:22:15):
Rivera hasn't had to put up with Jerry Jones before,
Jerry Richardson was outspoken, maybe not the same level Jarrickson
was actually an NFL player and a good one. And
then when you factor in, and this is a big one,
you're the Cowboys, and you say, who's had success with
a Dak Prescott style of quarterback with a powerful running
game and a talented defense? Carolina, right, Like Dak Prescott

(01:22:43):
isn't as big and maybe not as fast as Cam Newton,
but more elusive and a lot of similar attributes. He
may be more accurate. The running game is not the same,
but every bit is powerful. The defense is different and
needs a scheme change, but they have Jalen Smith as
opposed to Luke Weekly Like that kind of makes a
bit of a lot of a ton of sense to me.

(01:23:09):
So Troy is telling you, hey, then I'll pull in
the same direction, which we always knew. But when Troy
Aikman says it, it's like when E. F. Hutton speaks,
people gotta listen. And and having a having a coach
who's coached in the Super Bowl, who's coached this style
of quarterback, with an outspoken owner who's a defensive guy

(01:23:32):
coming off of an offensive guy, Garrett wouldn't stun me
at all of Ron Rivera. One of the reasons he
pulled the plug early is he thinks he's got a
chance at the Cowboys job. Thanks, you got a chance.
The college football playoff picture is much clearer than you think.
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But I saw last night's college football playoff rankings, and
you know, look that the picture as of now is
pretty clear. We all feel like there's three teams that
are better than everybody else. And the truth is that

(01:24:17):
all three of those teams because they're undefeated. All three
of those teams because they're undefeated. You know, Clemson loses
could be the big one. Now Do I think they're
losing to Virginia and do not? I don't. Clemson, by
the way, has allowed six points in their last two

(01:24:40):
games while scoring ninety six. They've outscored South Carolina and
Wake Forest. Um. They're only close game of the entire
season with North Carolina. Game that North Carolina went for
two could have won the game or could have forced overtime.
It's fairly close to Texas A and M. We we
hold them to this kind of ADDI here the standard

(01:25:00):
of of expectation. But if they lost to Virginia, maybe
maybe right now Oklahoma is one spot below Utah. And
I'm fascinated by that because none of these teams, And
look this all depending upon Georgia losing ellis you Georgia
beats l s U. L s U probably goes in

(01:25:22):
as the four seed, maybe the three seed. You know,
I don't think they have Clemson in Ohio state. If
they're the two undefeated teams, I don't think they have
them play each other. The question would be, do you
put Georgia ahead of L s U if they just
beat L s U. But L s U as a
far better resume even they just lost head to head,

(01:25:43):
That part would be interesting, But who's next? But who's
next is interesting? Is also there's Baylor sitting at seven.
If Baylor beats Oklahoma, could they leap frog Utah? Utah
has to beat has to beat Oregon. And I know
you're sitting here and going like, well, it's pretty obvious
if a win that they're gonna go like yeah, not
really the way it works, there's gonna be style points

(01:26:04):
at play. But I'll agree with something to Colin Cowherd said,
which is fair. It's fair. If it's fair, If you
want to sit here and go, hey, you know what,
Oklahoma has every bit the right. You know, they lost
on the road to Kansas State, whereas Utah lost on
the road to USC Baylor lost at home to Oklahoma,

(01:26:28):
Wisconsin lost Illinois. That's an eliminator. Even if they beat
Ohio State like there's nobody else, it's really, oh you
Baylor in Utah. And as much as Oklahoma's preseason schedule
is better, is it really? But they'd have to beat
Baylor twice. You beat Baylor twice to beat Texas, beat
Oklahoma State on the road, beat Baylor on the road.
I think that's stronger than what Utah is doing. On

(01:26:51):
the other hand, if you want to tell me that, look,
I've seen Oklahoma. I've seen with Kyla Murray, I've seen
him with UH with Baker Mayfield, and no matter who
their quarterback is, they can't beat these elite level teams.
That doesn't mean Utah can, but I haven't seen him try.
And so for that reason, for that reason, I'm I'm

(01:27:14):
ready to I'm ready to make a change there, right,
That's the only possible logic you can you can give
me in terms of Utah, Like, why else would Utah
be ranked ahead of them? Who has Utah beaten? Tell
me the team that ends up being really good. Granted,
you played b y U, which um, even though b

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y U hasn't turned out to be a great team,
that is a rivalry game you played on the road.
Other than that, you played all your conference games you want,
all but the USC game, which ended up being close.
You didn't have your starting running back for most of
that game, and you know, to be terribly honest, to
be terribly honest, you look at that and say, come on, man,

(01:28:04):
USC threw the ball up to to their wide receivers.
Utah out gained him and out and beat him in
every statistical category except touchdowns. So I think it's pretty
clear that everyone's ready for a little bit of a
change with that next spot. If and only if Georgia
loses Georgia wins. Those are top four teams and nobody's

(01:28:25):
arguing about. And it's interesting that we start every year
and usually get to this point of the year and
people start going, well, we need to expand the playoffs.
Expand the playoffs. Expand the playoff? Do we I? I'm
with the Joe klad I had this an interesting discussion
this week where I said, like, look, I'm all for

(01:28:46):
conference champions getting in, but what if your conference champion
isn't actually the best team in your conference? You don't
have balance schedules, but it wis constant biz Ohio States
that take away from Ohio States done the whole year.
I think everyone knows who three of the four best
teams are. We all think George is right there, but
they lose. All right, we'll find a fourth team to
put in there. Why do we need to add two

(01:29:08):
or four more teams when we already have a season
which decides the best fair? Unfair and life isn't fair.
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R to listen live Doug Olip Show. You're on Fox
Sports Radio tr I'm I'm I'm in on this Clay
Hilton thing. Like the Clay Hilton thing had to be,
had to be. I couldn't get Urban this year, couldn't

(01:29:51):
get Urban, probably not getting James Franklin. They are winning games,
but s C does this to themselves because Clay Hilton
was up in the air all season long. Now of
a sudden, they're having to rework their staff and get
through recruiting and no, no, no, no, Clay, that Clay
is our guy. That that's so hard to do. Like I,

(01:30:15):
I know that there's a lot of you out there
that read these idiots who write for some of these websites,
like college coaches. Why are they really worth that much?
Because that's why a kid goes to school there, you dope,
we all know it. That's why people buy season tickets.
That's why you have faith, that's why we you believe in.
It's all based upon that head coach. You don't know
anything about these players. Yeah, you know some high school

(01:30:38):
recruiting guys like man, that guy's a five star. A
five star. How many times we've been through this with
the NFL Draft. How many guys are not five stars
who end up going in the NFL Draft. Did they
get better? Probably? Or was it the guys that they're
evaluating might actually be avalu waiting for websites because they're

(01:31:02):
not professional evaluators. I've had people who yeh, I've had
people who reached out to me on this George Kittle thing,
like you don't know when he was coming out of Iowa,
the only reason it was draft he was a great
run blocker, Like, Okay, I don't know what you heard,
but I actually talked to director of player Personnel people like, look,
he was heard a bunch of Iowa he could block something,

(01:31:23):
he can really really run basketball player, freak athlete, and
you know Niners took a shot on him when other
people are like, I don't know, the Iowa guys weren't
that high on him. We love George Kittle, We've got
him on He's awesome. But the idea that you know
what a scatterport is because you read it online, like look,

(01:31:46):
and I've written online. I'll just be first to tell you,
like when I get my own personal skills of evaluation,
I think are pretty good, but they're not going to
be as good as guys that have been in the
industry for years. So if you're taking somebody who is
a you know, Twitter tough guys, word for it. When

(01:32:07):
I heard oh out to Iowa was what, I don't
care what you heard. I'n get what I heard. Telling
you what people in the NFL side. It's the same
thing in college football with these recruiting rankings and what
you do when you leave your coaches future up in
the air. You hurt any ability for him to get players.
You're so much better off as a fan base being
completely and almost blindly supportive of your coach, so that

(01:32:29):
when he's fired that when he's fired, you're like blindsided
by it. But Clayhellton's gonna remain as coach at USC.
I just don't know if they've done so much damage
to themselves in the you know, in it's kind of
the ambiguity of his what was gonna happen with him
in the future that they can undo so much of
the harm that was done. Alandre Illinueva is a military vet,

(01:32:51):
and of course he's a star lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Coming off an emotional win over the Cleveland Rounds, he
joins us in the Doug Gotlips Show on Fox Sports Radio.
This is My Cleets My Cause Weekend. What's the cause
of your cleats. How are you my The cause of
my cleets is the Special Warrior Foundation. UH. It is

(01:33:12):
an organization that serves the families of service members that
are in special forces. And I think right now, with
the vast majority of the ground troops out of Afghanistan,
the special forces community has seen themselves, you know, trying
most of the most of the of the fight and UH.
And I think it's pretty cool if you know, if

(01:33:33):
if if the foundation gets a little exposure to the
platform that is the NFL. No, I think it's I
think it's amazing. One thing you miss about being in
in the Armed forces, Oh, everything, absolutely everything. I think
if you if you would have compared uh, sort of
how a football season uh evolves O t ACE training
camp and then you got you know, the season. It's

(01:33:56):
very similar to you know how in the military you
prepare for a deployment and then you have you know,
your block leave. You start building small skills and then
you put it all together with the task force training,
you know, with helicopters and everything just like it's gonna
be overseas and then you finally go into your deployment,
which is you know basically like the like the season.
You know where you stack up. I think you know,

(01:34:18):
the enjoyment out of the deployment is is is a
thousand times you know what a season is just from
the standpoint of the type of stress that you get. Uh,
and then that you know that the passion everybody around
you have, you know, the military and the special operations
especially is it's pretty special. Okay. Uh. The worst part
when about being a plea a pleabe? Uh, the worst

(01:34:42):
I mean everything is the worst part about being a
police for for people don't know, a pleabe is what
they call first year cadets at West Point correct that
they're a plea. Right, Yeah, So I think, I mean,
I think now you know, being in the NFL and
and and being a complete civilian, having a cool lumberjack beard,

(01:35:03):
and then you know I had to sort of you know,
going out and playing the stadiums and then bring it
back all the way back to the pola beer. Uh.
It's giving me a little bit of of of of
of of goose bumps, uh, just of of how miserable
that the type of lifestyle was. So I would say
I would say the worst part is is cuting your hands.
You have to close your hands all the time, and
you cannot talk when you're next to uh, you know,

(01:35:24):
your class, he's walking around. You have to be remember
quite all the times. And as you can see how
I'm a little bit of a talker. So it was
always very very tough to have a thought in your
head and not being able to share with your with
your classes. So you walk around campus. Wait, you went
cut in your hands? That what you said? Yeah, you
have to cut your hands and to cup your hands
basically like like you're holding you say, like you're holding
a bunch of quarters in your hands. And that's how

(01:35:46):
you just say. You have to walk around campus all
the time, all the time, all the time we're outside,
and you know, a lot of talk unless you're spoken to.
So it's a little bit of that's that's amazing. Are
gone away with join us in the Dugout the show
on Fox Sports. Right, all right? Help me out to
lead up into last week's game. Um, the t shirt
thing was Friday. When did you first hear about it?

(01:36:09):
About the T shirt? I think I think I've read
it on on Saturday. I think I think UH players
understand the media cycle a little bit and they know
that all the all the big you know, headlines are
gonna come out either Saturday or Sunday morning. And so
I think I think I heard it either all my
way to the game or or Saturday after the doctors.
And what do you think? Um? I mean, I think

(01:36:33):
I don't know. I mean, you know, one hand, you
say when you when you play in the NFL for
for a couple of years, you know, and everything starts
becoming sort of the same, like every week is the
same tough challenge if we think it's the same. Uh,
you know, you're facing great players. The game is sort
of engineered to almost always go down to the fourth quarter,
so you have to remain very you know, in a

(01:36:53):
very high stress environment. But it's almos sort of you know,
starts looking the same. But when you have you know
an instance, you know where something is is not the
same as every other game you're not playing, you know, uh,
the Buffalo bill I would say, the Buffalo, you're not
playing the Seattle Seahause and there's no no storylines you
know ahead of it. Um, I think I think it does.

(01:37:16):
It does sort of you know, make you go over
the game play one more time in your head to say,
make sure that Uh that uh, that that you get
it done. Yeah, I don't how did you guys do this?
I mean you don't have you're running back, you don't
have juju. You know, Douck Hodges was the fourth quarterback.
Going back to training camp, you know, you're down to

(01:37:36):
a talented Brown's team that have just beaten you a
couple of weeks before. What changed at halftime specifically? Um,
I don't think it was anything that changed a halftime.
I think you know, one variable that a lot of
people do not uh take an account is the fact that,
you know, going away on Thursday night games is pretty challenging,
you know, the short week, Uh, the fact that it

(01:37:58):
is is a night game. I mean that those things
usually I think there's a statistic. I'm not I hate
the statistics in football, but I think there's one that
mentions that, you know, the away game, the away team, Uh,
you know, it's usually a tougher for them to to
win on these sys and eight games. Um, so you
know when you don't have enough time to prepare. I
think the second time around, we had a little more

(01:38:19):
time to prepare. Obviously, Myles Garrett not being there was
a huge factor, and then uh. And then I think that,
you know, as as as the offense started getting comfortable
with with with with Duck, then things started coming around.
And the defense has been playing lights out the whole season.
So um, I don't know if there's any changes at halftime.
I think it was just more you know, continuing the game. Yeah,

(01:38:39):
but the defensive players like hey, Mike Tomlin grabbed the
grab the white board and and and and wrote some
stuff down and change things like kind of hate high
school style of adjustments. Any idea what those adjustments were?
Oh no, no clue. I you know, one thing about
the NFL is that you always have to stick to
your position, you know, don't try to venture out into
guessing you know, what the defense is trying to do,
because you uh, I would get lost, you know if

(01:39:02):
I have to try to explain you anything, because I,
you know, I myself, I'm always familiar with with the
specifics of my reposition. Yeah, let's let's not overload over
that load that brain. Alandro van Aweva joining us. It's
Mike Cleats my cause this weekend's Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. What about Duck Hodges? Right, this
has been kind of a wild ride. He gets thrown

(01:39:23):
in early in the year. Uh, then then Mason gets
the job back. Then Mason isn't performing well enough, so
they replace him, and then he gets to start and
he gets to win. What was he like Sunday against
the Browns? I mean, he's he's he's a very confident kid.
He's someone who enjoys playing football and and and I
think you know, likes to uh you know the two

(01:39:46):
things well and so um, you know for for for
him has always been the same. You know, there's there's
no station in his voice when he's calling the plays.
You know, there's there's there's not a lot of hesitation
in this play either. I think he's he feels pretty comfortable.
Uh Um. I think as an offense, you know, we've
been you know, obviously very frustrated, you know, the whole
season of not being able to have uh you know,

(01:40:07):
the results that that that we're accustomed to. But you know,
at the same time, it's always it's been fun, you know,
trying to come up with ways to get better every
single week. You mentioned, you know that the injuries and
you know, especially the skill position. I think you gotta
give a lot of credit to the coaches, especially coach
Donlan because he's he keeps reiterating this concept of engineering
a way to win and and finding out ways, uh,

(01:40:28):
you know, to sort of measure which variables are more important,
addressing first and then trying to get trying to get
a victory of the week. Awesome stuff, Alejandra vone away
but joining us Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
last thing, what what is it about the Steelers culture?
You mentioned your coach, Hey, let's just find a way
to win. But what is it about you know, like

(01:40:50):
the saying that you guys have as the standard is
the standard, which is kind of ambiguous. It feels like
it is what it is, but I do kind of
get it. How how have you has been able to
manufacture the seven and five season considering all of the
different you know, going through three quarterbacks, losing your running back,
you know, you know, losing your wide receiver. How does

(01:41:11):
this happen? Um? I mean, I don't think any other
players are looking at the season in that way. I think,
you know, most of us just worry about our job.
We don't try to do anything. But this this greater
than you know that that we have you know, uh
uh you know the things that we that we that
we can do in the field. Um, if you focus
on your job and you so to do your job

(01:41:32):
and you enjoy the process, you know, the way in
this ride that that it is the Pittsburgh Steelers, that
it is being with coach Tomlin. Uh, then then you
you find it. You know, at the end of the day,
is your own preparation and it's your own adaptation to
this routine of the NFL uh that leads you to success.
And so I like I love the culture, cannot say

(01:41:53):
enough about the organization, um, Coach Tomlin, especially my teammates.
It isn't unbelievable place to be. But like I said,
I think at the end of the day, I'm you know,
everybody sort of wonder about their own job and and
and nobody's thinking that this season by any means we've
done anything or that we could be satisfied with our
you know, seven and five, because it could have been

(01:42:13):
you know, a much better record. You know, have we
maybe taken care of some of the games earlier on
in the season, uh, you know, which were very very reachable,
and uh, you know, from from that from that outspect,
we're we're a little more disappointed. I think that we
are happy about what we are. Awesome stuff again, my
cleats my cause weekend. It's a special Operations Warrior Foundation

(01:42:34):
and you'll see him on the clear. Who's who's making
your cleats for you? Um? You know, I'm very I
you know the organization give it to me and I
forgot to ask the name of the of the artists.
Still terrible. It's out a Twitter account, amas, and I
would have I would have published it, but I cannot
stand the connectivity and the social media these days. I'm
I'm kind of with you. I'm on it. It's a
it's a it's a scary, scary place at times. The meantime.

(01:42:57):
Can't wait to see the cleats. Uh you tell us
you if you can find a way to tell us
who the artist is offline, will make sure that that
that he or she is popularly represented the meantime. Thanks
for protecting us when you served abroad, and appreciate you
joining us on Fox Sports Radio. Thank you so much.
Doug all right, all a hundred villan a wava obviously,
I mean, like, dude, you go to serve two tours

(01:43:18):
in Afghanistan, go to West Point, brilliant guy and pro
Bowl lineman. That's not that, that's not like an American hero.
I don't really know who is. I don't really know
who is, all right. I want to get to what
the Fox said. I play some of that which we
missed earlier. Plus the Marlins are switching to a completely

(01:43:40):
new field next year. We'll explain next. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app Doug Gotlip Show
Fox Sports Radio. We usually get to this the second
hour of the show, but we had Daniel Jeremiah in
a segments, so I felt like I'd love to bring

(01:44:01):
it back because I love all of the shows we
hear have You're on Fox Sports Radio. Are are good
ones like you wake up with the Morning you got
Clay Travis, who uh he made this point about twa
to buy Logan and how how interesting he was in
his answer about whether or not he'll come back for
next year, not wanting to make a decision right now.
He's like, I think he goes up to draft boards
because just of how he answered that question? Like, but

(01:44:25):
most one of the reasons everybody points to Lamar Jackson
falling by their estimation the NFL draft because people want
to use him a wide receiver. Like he was kind
of nonverbal. Remember his mom was his agent. People couldn't
get ahold of her. He didn't want to run the
forty when he's at the white board. He wasn't terribly advanced.

(01:44:45):
But how ta is his presentation? How jamis is in
terms of football? Like you how uh Marcus Mariotto was?
These are these are people? Hey, these are people who

(01:45:09):
are completely refined, comfortable within their own skin and capable.
Kyler Murray, like I know Kyler Murray was super quiet
on the Dan Patrick Show and didn't have a great
presentation there. But if you listen to him at the
podium during his first year, like this guy knows the stuff.
He knows football. It's just more product of he wasn't
comfortable because of the baseball answer. Anyway, here's uh, let's

(01:45:34):
let's get to something the Fox said and now the
Fox say. So every day we played for your portion
of Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One show, Nick Wright
co host. First things first, talking about what maybe next
for Ron Rivera. I think right now the Dallas Cowboys
and the Cleveland Browns should both be there's no tampering

(01:45:56):
with coaches well, and even if there's doesn't matter because
Ron Vers now been fired, even though they are yet
to fire Jason Garrett and Freddie Kitchens. Those are two
teams that are ready to win right now. Two teams
that I believe have above average, if not better quarterbacks.
Two teams that have enough talent on the roster that,
if they just had better coaching, would be not only

(01:46:18):
in the playoff picture, but I think leading potentially leading
their respective divisions. Cleveland maybe not leading over Baltimore, but
right there in the thick of the a f C
playoff hunt. Those A team like that needs a coach
like this, and a team like that, I believe could
use a defensive minded, hard nosed head coach that says, hey,
we're gonna hire the offensive coordinator. His job is going

(01:46:40):
to be the quarterback, My job is going to be
everything else on the roster. So I wouldn't if I
were Dallas or Cleveland try to go with a Lincoln
Riley type, which maybe works, and maybe you're going after
another coach in a couple of years. I know Ron
riverican coach in this league. I know that two teams
that lack discipline, that lack attention to d tale could

(01:47:00):
use a coach such as Ron Rivera. So those are
two teams that I feel like we know the jobs
are going to be open at the end of the year.
I think they should start the bidding war right now
for Ron Rivera, because one of them is, if they're smart,
is going to get him, and one of them is
gonna be missing out. I tend to agree, but if
i'm you know, if you're Ron Rivera, obviously Cowboys seem

(01:47:24):
to be a team with much more talent and much
more balance, and you know they got to do get
better team than what the what the Browns have? The
Browns have have? They put the fun in dysfunction. The
Cowboys are just underachieving, but not in the classical, comical,
poorly coached way. The Browns are the problem with the
Browns are like looking at how quickly they've gone through

(01:47:46):
all their coaches. I'm Ron Rivera. I want stability. I
want stability. The good thing about Ron Rivera is he's
never been a guy who picked the groceries, and he's
had you know, Marty Herney now and Dave Gettleman. Those
are pretty strong minded, gentleman managers. So the idea of
having the complete and autonomous control he wouldn't have. I
would say the Cleveland thing won't happen because unless he

(01:48:07):
Endorset are close, Dorsey's gonna hire somebody who's close with
Remember Dorsey was in Green Bay. That feels like Mike McCarthy.
You know. The one thing you gotta take, you gotta
you gotta remember, you need to remember is that um
and it's really important is that coaches, just like players,

(01:48:29):
go somewhere where there's a familiar face. You know, Sean
McDermott hired a genterleal manager from Charlotte, from from Carolina
because they've worked together before. John Dorsey is gonna go
hire somebody he's worked with before, somebody he knows. Cowboys
might not just because they're coming off of somebody they

(01:48:51):
knew in a Jason Garrett and now they just want
the best possible available. Let's get to the press, the
press Doug Otling Show here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

(01:49:14):
let's let's get to a Steve to Sega what do
you got. Well, let's start with the Marlins, because they
will install a synthetic grass field at their ballpark now
and move in the fences and center and right center
by twelve feet. But CEO Derek Jeter today referred to
the challenges of growing a natural grass field there. So
they'll have and I've seen the artists rendition of the levels,

(01:49:34):
the synthetic blades of grass at the top and then
the soil if you want to call it that. The
soil fill is coconut with the sand below that. And
apparently the Diamondbacks installed the same type of field this
past year, and the Rangers new stadium will have the
same it opens next year. So five of the thirty
ballparks and the majors will now have artificial turf, including

(01:49:55):
Toronto and Tampa Bay and artificial turf, which which is
interesting because we are kind going back to the we
got away from the artificial turf, and then they got
to the field turf. Now everybody's on the field turf,
and I'll only point this out, it's way softer than
the old turf was. But I mean having a son
that's played tackle football and it's still way harder. Than grass.
But imagine the Minnesota game with the snow on an

(01:50:18):
old type of field last weekend. It held up so
well and looks so good and heated underneath during that
all the snow. It was until the fourth quarter that
the field got white. Technology is certainly better than before.
And it's not just laying out a carpet over cement
like the old days in the seventies. No, it's it's not,
but but it is. It is still a carpet and
it is still over cement. The cushioning is better, but

(01:50:39):
it wears down kind of quick. Um. Yeah, I mean,
I think the more interesting part is coconuts, Like how
many coconuts were wasted? We're like too much. Now everybody's
drinking coconut water, coconut milk, coconut milks in your in
your your coffee, and now using coconut for infield shavings.
Interesting good recycling. Tiger Woods is golfing in the Bahamas

(01:51:00):
this week. The Hero World Challenges underway. It's a Wednesday
through Saturday event. Woods apparently, in a windy day, shot
even par seventy two, so he's six strokes back at
the co leaders Patrick Read and Gary Woodland each at
sixty six. Justin Rose is three back golf this week
and Tiger involved. As for the Pro Bowl, fan voting
is heading into its final week. Who is still the

(01:51:22):
number one vote getter overall? Not even concerned about position
most Yes, it's the Ravens quarterback about four hundred fifty
thousand votes, Russell Wilson with about three hundred sixty thousand,
and Patrick Mahomes about three hundred fifty thousand. Number four
and five overall in the voting Dalvin Cook and Christian McCaffrey.
The top vote getters by team are the San Francisco

(01:51:44):
forty Niners. By the way, not only Dalvin Cook at
running back for NFC, but the top vote getter at
a f C running back, Nick Chubb of Cleveland. So far,
mm hmmm, um yeah, I mean I don't. I don't.
I mean I don't. I don't care about fan voting
in the NFL and so much of it is based
upon fantasy football. Do we really think Lamark Jackson's the

(01:52:05):
best quarterback in the NFL? Well, he's met a lot
of points for fantasy players, I understand, But do we
really think he's the best quarterback in the NFL no
having a great year going to be like and the
TV ratings are out officially for the Ohio State Michigan
telecast on Fox last Saturday, twelve point four two million viewers.
And in fact, this is this interesting note from Sports
Media Watch that since Jim Harbaugh became the Michigan coach,

(01:52:29):
they've had at least ten and a half million from
the form the Ohio State Michigan games, which is more
than they used to have in the previous years before
he arrived. But also big up for the Oklahoma Oklahoma
State telecast which Fox had at night last Saturday, that
was five point eight million, which is the largest that
that rivalry game has had in about five six years. Yeah,

(01:52:51):
you know, usually they've been on ABC's coverage. Obviously, foxes
foxing an amazing job this year college football promoting it
and putting their best games on network TV and net
our TV still matters, you know, like, look, we all
grew up in the kid where cable was, but there
are people that just don't watch sports on cable ard
struggle to find the game. That not the case, and
obviously network TV wins today, especially as people are unplugging

(01:53:13):
and people can get the quote over the year channels
and that is the press backing out there and pressed.
That was the press. We talked about it all the time.
You gotta pull in the same direction. And what what
Troy Aikman said on a Dallas radio station or Ler today,
was like, look, I'm not gonna sit here and tell
you that Jason Garrett has been great, but his boss,

(01:53:36):
Jerry Jones, in an effort to be you know, Jerry Jones,
he's not helping. And when you don't pull in the
same direction, you're gonna struggle to find your next head coach.
If you choose to fire this head coach, that's big
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