December 10, 2019 • 42 mins
Despite getting a win over the Giants on Monday Night Football, Doug thinks the Eagles are closer to a rebuild than they are to winning another Super Bowl. He also tells you why the relationship between Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones is clearly done, even if the Cowboys haven’t fired him yet. Plus Joel Klatt from FOX Sports joins the show to preview the College Football Playoff.
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What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Coming
to you from the Lovely City of Angels. When Doug
Gotlip Show rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio, you know,
there are things that make us kid ourselves into believing
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that our process was right, because we become result oriented
right last night, the Philadelphia Eagles one game is, by
the way, currently being replayed on the NFL Network, And
it's not the first time, and I've watched it several
times over, so I do actually know. I don't think
I know what I'm saying is true. The Philadelphia Eagles
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are not a great football team. I'm not sure they're
even a really good football team. They have some pieces
I like. They still may make the playoffs. And yet
if I was in their boardroom today, if I was
in their front office today, I would say loudly and clearly,
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men and women and whomever else is in this room,
we are actually closer to a rebuild or a remodel
then we are to a reload. Let's not get it twisted, right. True,
If Nelson Agilare catches any of the three game winning
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receptions he could have caught, their record would be above five. True.
If deshn Um Jackson was healthy, he would take the
top off the defense and you'd have even more room
for their tight ends and running backs and uh other
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wide receivers to catch the football. If all Sean Jeffrey
had been healthy earlier in the season, maybe he wouldn't
be such a malcontent. Here's the problem. Sean Jackson's over
thirty years old. He's less likely to be healthy as
his career goes on. All Sean Jeffrey is sorry always hurt.
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Lane Johnson's either hurt or suspended on a yearly basis
that this we do in fact not based upon his
history within the league. They have other pieces that are
close to retirement. And then the biggest change between the
two thousand seventeen Philadelphia Eagles and the two thousand nineteen
Philadelphi Eagles is their defense. That defense was third on
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third down, fourth in yards allowed, first against the run,
fourth in points per game, and they hit the quarterback
the third most times in the National Football League. This
year's defense hits the quarterback to nineteenth most time. They
and the red zone nine quarterback pressures, and they've allowed
the seventh most passing touchdowns. By almost any statistical measure,
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they are an average to below average to frankly bad defense.
You can tell me it's about injuries. You can tell
me it's you know, the problem with winning a Super
Bowl as you lose some pieces. All I can tell
you is with a division where keep in mind, this
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is not your average division. This is not a team
that's playing against a ridiculous schedule. The Philadelphia Eagles are
not only below five at six and seven, but they
have currently two wins over two good teams, and their
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own division has one team already fired their coach, the
Dallas Cowboys going to fire their coach. The New York
Giants looked like they're going to fire their coach, maybe
even their GM. You're in the worst division in football,
and you can't get above five even though you've had
your quarterback the entire year. We can point to all
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the other stuff, but this is just in active football team.
That's it. They don't have the personnelity Cowboys, and yet
in a dysfunctional year with a dysfunction division, they can't
separate themselves. Red zone defense that's below average nineteen and
quarterback pressures that's mediocre, which means average nineteen. In points
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per game allowed defensively mediocre average, and they've allowed the
seventh most passing touchdowns. That below average, sub mediocre, it's atrocious.
You can tell yourself it's the injuries, But shouldn't the
division kind of balance that out right? You can tell yourself, Wow,
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it's just one of those years where everything goes wrong,
or does everything go wrong for a reason, like, look,
you should we should own the fact that the Eagles
were the best team in football and one the Super
Bowl spite of the fact that a backup quarterback was
kind of playing on a hot streak. But they wanted
because the defense was so good, running game was good
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and allowed Nicole and the and the play calling was
good and they were in into a Patriots team that
was not super talented, and they just outscored him and
got one more quarterback pressure, one more turnover, one more stop,
and won a super Bowl. This is not because they're
six and seven. This is not let's not be result oriented.
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Result oriented. We'll tell you. Oh listen, if we we
make the we make the playoffs, that were good. No, no,
all Sean got hurt again. The Sean has been hurt
all year. Some of your lineman close to retirement, and
defense ain't great. Now, I'm not saying they should do
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what the Redskins need to do, which is strip it
down and start over or light a match if you will.
They're not the Bengals, they're not the Dolphins. Hey, they're
not a team that if they're not where the where
the Raiders tried to get to last year. Okay, this
is if the how you like the house analogy, you
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buy it. Okay, you probably need to read to the kitchen,
read some bathrooms, need knocking down, any walls, paint the
whole house, put in some new carpet, maybe some floors,
and you're good. But what what could happen is your house?
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You look on Zillo and your house is worth a
little bit more in your neighbor's house. Well, that's because
your neighborhood sucks, not because your house is so great. Right.
They're not the Saints. They're not the forty Niners, not
the Vikings have a ton more talent. Hell, they're not
even the Packers. And I know they beat the Packers,
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but they're not. They're they're not one of those elite
football teams. I mean, look, they're not the Seahawks. It
is not. But the best of the best are Niners
are uh Saints are Vikings in terms of talent? Maybe
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you go Packers. The next tier is Seahawks, The next
tier is Cowboys in terms of talent, right, the next
tier is probably Packers. I mean, think about the Bears.
If they figured out their quarterback situation, who would you rather.
Would you rather have their defense or just your quarterback?
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Kind of what it feels like. So again, this is
not light a match. This is not they say in
my neighborhood. You don't scrape it, you don't knock it
down and start over. On the other hand, in a
bad division, you are a sub five team with an
elite level quarterback, an elite level play color is head coach,
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and yes, your injury plagued and mistake plagued, and you've
had a lot of drops. But if you think that
winning a couple of the games, of those games would
change the fact that you need a bit of a remodel,
You need a freshening of the roster to kid yourself,
which is what happens a lot of times when you
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end up going to the playoffs, as you start thinking
your head, well, you know, we made one play here,
one play there, we win another playoff game and then
all things are great. Now, be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio ah app. Here's the Patriots statement,
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and it's a pretty interesting one. Um, it doesn't say
a ton. The production crew is independent of our football operation.
We except full responsibility for the actions of our production
crew at the Browns Bengals game. I do tend to
believe them, but I also believe that whoever is in
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charge of them should be fired immediately. Here's why. Here's why. Um, Look,
we all have a past. I have a past. If
you don't know, just read the comments anytime I tweet something,
apparently it's new news to people. That's something I did,
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it admitted to doing twenty one years ago. Is worthy
of response to the fact that I said George Kittles
not much of a blocker in comparison to Rob Gronkowski.
Somehow right. I don't really understand the correlation, but on
Twitter it makes sense. We all have a pass and
and and knowing that I'm very sensitive to uh to
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some of the sponsorship deals that we do. There's a
company called LifeLock who is a sponsor of sports our
show on Sports Radio, and I was like, look, I
didn't steal anybody's identity. Want to make sure it's clear
it's not the same crime. It's not really actually close.
But I did steal somebody's credit cards and I did
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use them twenty one years ago. And if, if, if
you want to make that correlation and not have me
read your advertisements on Fox Sports tray, I fully understand.
Full disclosure is important. So look, it was closer in
terms of proximity and time, but Spygate is still front
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and center in any Patriot, any NFL fans mind. So
it's not that the Patriots had any knowledge the real,
actual working Patriots and football team. I tend to believe that,
but the idea that somebody didn't say to the camera
and hey man, whatever you do, don't film the other
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team sending in plays. The league is kind of sensitive
to that, and fans are kind of sensitive to it, right.
It's it's like they're not gonna draft the Patriots are
going to draft a tight end who may or may
not be involved in the murder. Why kind of sensitive
to it. It's the same reason the Patriots had to
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get rid of Antonio Brown, the kind of sensitive to
issues with women off the field, the owner. Right, So,
anytime you have a past, and most of us do,
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you have to only be cognizant of it, but you
have to make sure you fully disclosed is our past,
and let's stay as far away from that as possible,
far away from that as possible. So I don't think
that the Patriots had anything to do with it, not
just because it's the Bengals, just because I don't think
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anybody's that stupid, and I don't know why the cameraman
did such a thing. And then you know, the worst
possible admittance of guilt is like supposedly he said, like, hey,
can we just throw the tapes out and start all over? Yeah? No, no,
that's you get caught right, Let me just that's that's
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telling the cop what pulls you over? Well, do you
want the beer when we just poured out in the
gutter and just let me go home? Call it even.
You know what, what if I just went over to
the passenger's side, or how about you take the beer,
I'll leave my keys on. Just uber home. We're good, right,
Like yeah, not really even close to the way it works.
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Alcoholic shouldn't be anywhere near a bar, and the Patriots
shouldn't have anybody filming anywhere near somebody else's sideline during
an NFL game. By the way, the ultimate irony of
it is apparently the segments called do your job, and
either the cameraman was really doing his job or more
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than likely was not actually doing his job while trying
to cover an advanced scout who was doing his job.
So I just the the whole story is amazing. The
one team who gets caught doing this is the Patriots.
On the other hand, they get caught doing it against
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the Cincinnati Bengals, whom everybody would say, like, if you're
gonna cheat, why the Bengals? Right? How about some of
those Ravens plays seemed to befuddle you the first quarter
when you're down twenty one? Nothing that might help? Oh? Oh,
what about a team like the Houston Texans who just
whooped your ass? Filmed their place. You don't need to
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film the Cincinnati Bengals. Maybe figure out how to stop
Pat Mahomes in the first half. Figure that one out.
Those will come in handy when you get to the playoffs. Right,
and you can give me the Patriots lost two games row,
they're getting desperate. This is what the Patriots do. I
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don't think anybody's that stupid. Definitely not the Patriots. I
just don't be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon.
Pass FAC. Let's welcome in Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk
and Football Night in America. Do you believe the Patriots
football staff had no knowledge of what was going on Cincinnati?
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I do. I totally believe it. You know, first off,
I worked there, right, Uh, I think I've told you this, Doug.
I was never around a team that followed the rules more.
I mean, we couldn't have a five dollar bet on
March madness like that. Would you'd get a memo the
next day that said, don't do that. You know the
other things to listen, I know everyone's gonna go there's
a history or all right, hey, deflad gate, that was
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a Tom Brady thing. That's not a New England thing.
Spy gate. Okay, at that time, you know, there was
nothing really written in the by laws in the NFL
that was illegal. Yeah, maybe not like Eth the cool
but you know, Belichick is really smart and he's getting
back at Eric Manini too, So you know with this one.
I think the thing I look at is obviously there's
a reputation, right. I don't think New England's stupid enough
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to send credential people and do another team's press box
and as they're filming the sideline like thinking they wouldn't
they would get away with it. Number two, like Bill
Belichick isn't gonna like trust some oh random video guys
to you know, come through and crack the code of
the sideline signals of the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, this
is one of the smartest people I've ever been around before. Ever,
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I just think that the video crews stupid in general.
It doesn't sound like anything I've heard that they're a
part of the football, part of the organization. So no,
I'm not I'm not buying it one bit. Okay, I
agree with you. I would say that the guy that's
the dumbass is whoever was in charge the production crew.
That's like one of the things, Hey, guys, listen before
you go out and film this thing, just a reminder
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where the Patriots got a little bit of reputation, be
extra careful around filming any other team that plays in
their signals, Right, that's the whoever isn't whoever the executive
producer is who Hi, that's the guy who takes the
fall right, exactly right. I mean you gotta know or
the full you know, scope of the situation. And you
said it right, You're the Patriots. There's a little reputation there,
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They've had some you know issues there already, and you
just I just can't even believe it. Yeah, whoever in
charge of that department is truly stupid to let his people,
uh film the sideline for eight plus minutes or whatever
it was. Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's get to what's actually on the field for the Paths.
The bad news is, they still don't seem to have
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the playmakers right, and there doesn't seem to be an
appetite for Antonio Brown, and he's the only guy really
out there who could be a difference maker. So you're
gonna roll with what what you got. The good news is,
in spite of the fact they don't have those playmakers,
there are a couple of blown calls away from either
tying or being the Kansas City Chiefs, who are one
of the teams they have to go through to get
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to a Super Bowl. So what's your takeaway from their
loss at home to the Chiefs. Yeah, there's a there's
a silver lining. I mean one, Hey, it is the
New England Patriots. I don't know if this offense is
ever going to be anything special this year, but I
think it will be, you know, continue to be tinkered
with too where it's more respectable than it is right now.
But I don't and think it's ever gonna hit some stride.
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We're gonna go. Oh. They they found what they needed
to do and now they're one of the better offenses
in football. No I've seen enough evidence not to now
to know that's not gonna happen. It's gonna be a
little bit of this struggle all year long. The game
itself was crazy. I mean, you're right one the two
blown calls there, you're going, Holy cow, New England gonna
win this game. But the other part of the game,
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I would sit there and go it was twenty three
to seven and the Chiefs had the ball at midfield,
and I'm going, whoa, They're about to blow New England
out up into New England. So there was two sides
of that story. But in the typical New England fashion,
what do they do? They block upon then they forced
the Travis Kelsey fumble and all sudden me look up
and go they're kind of getting dominated. But what they
might have a chance to win the game. How is that? Um?
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You know? Kansas City. Kansas City's defense has played better
the last few weeks. Steve Spagnolo, he does some creative
things on defense. He did some New England things to
New England double James White, double Julian Edelman, you know,
showed a lot of like, oh, we're gonna all out
blitz and then dropped back into coverage then then did
all outblits in certain situations. So New England's offense has
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issues all around. Tom Brady included he's not playing great.
The old line is not great. Yes out the weapons
on the outside or nothing special. And I do think
Kansas City showed along with the Houston Texans who did
a little bit of this too, Like if you double
Julian Edelman, who else on New England is going to
step up and beat you right now? And that's the
big question. And I think that's the formula. You're going
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to continue to see defenses due until somebody proves otherwise.
That that fourth and three toss um I talked about
with Trent ill for yesterday. I just kind of want
want your take my I get that that on on tape.
It looks like Jacoby is open. On the other hand,
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he's got his best wide receiver in a corner route,
and I feel like Edelman. Had Edelman just stopped and
made the defender come through him, it would have been
a p I so he could have Brady could have
thrown it a little bit further, a little bit soon
owner or Edelman could have helped his quarterback out a
little bit. I don't think it's as bad a misread
as people who are watching the tape believe. What as
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a guy who's been in that position and knows that offense,
what's what's your take? Yeah, I don't think it's a
misread either. I mean, I think you hit a lot
of the right points there. You know, first off, it's
his best player, it's the one guy he trust. I mean,
you know, Jacobe had already dropped the pass in the
end zone, so I'm sure he's a little unsure there too.
When you all out blitz, like, that's the route you want. See,
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when you all out blitz and blitz everybody and there's
no safety in the middle of the field, defenders play
inside because they know they have no help there, so
they try to cut off the inside. Therefore, you know,
that's the route you really want. But Shad Brelan did
a great job. You know. The other thing too, is uh, yeah,
you're right, Julian maybe could have played it a little
better way. He slows down and then Brithleyn runs into him.
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And also Brady doesn't need to fall down, but nobody
hits Brady falls down like he could stand tall in
there and deliver the ball. You could have maybe of
the ball one extra second to give him a little
more time to separate whatever it may be. But yeah,
I'm with you totally. But you know, right now New
England's New England's issues are across the board. Brady's forty two,
that's just the fact of the matter. And he's not
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capable of carrying the offense like he was years ago.
And of course they're having issues at offensive line. They're
now his dominant and running game. And we know the receivers.
The receiver issues are well documented as well. I watched
the Eagles last night, and I understand that if Nelson
Aghilar catches a ball against the Falcons, for example, they
win that game. And uh, there's several games in which
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if Nelson Aguilar just individually catches one more ball, they
win the games. Game. Patriots game right in his hands
in the end zone. Unbelievable throw. He drops it. That said,
you know, I mean like des Sean Jackson been hurt
obviously that that hurts you. But he's older. Older guys
get hurt. All Shan Jeffreys kind of always hurt. Their
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defense isn't nearly what it used to be. I think
they're closer to not a gut job, okay, but a
but a remodel. Yeah. I think they're closer to a
remodel than they are a little bit of good luck
and catches away from being a ten win team. Where
are you in the Eagles? I agree? I totally agree.
I mean, first off, you know, I I don't like
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the criticism around Carson Wentz because I want to you know,
you just kind of said it like who who scares
you in Philadelphia? I mean, come on, I think Doug,
you and me are as fast as some of the
receivers that were out there last night, and certainly just
the normal everyday fans not gonna know who the hell
those guys where he was throwing too. But yeah, it's
more than just like, oh, we gotta go into this
offseason and sign one or two guys and our problems
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are fixed. I agree with you. You know, they need,
you know, a better group of running backs. They certainly
need to revamp the wide receiver position. You know, the
old line. Okay, that's good. They don't have to worry
about that. The defensive line has not been as dominant.
Uh So there's gotta be some tinkering there. Uh. You
know you talk about the cornerback position. Obviously you saw
the first half that was an issue. I got an
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issue with the game plan too, as far as what
they did on the defensive side of the ball. Guy
has you know, got a guy in Eli Manning, yes,
a Hall of Famer, but hasn't played football at eleven weeks.
You're just gonna line up and play man Demand every place,
so he doesn't even have to think or do anything
and just throw a slant or a fade route Like
I I didn't understand that. And of course the second
half they adjusted. So I think there's a lot of things.
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Like you said, remodeling is the perfect thing. They don't
need to blow it up. There's still a lot of
like key vital pieces that they got um. But there's
certainly a little work to do on that roster to
improve it, to get it back to where it's it's
super Bowl worthy. Like right now, I don't even want
them to make the playoffs. I don't want that team.
They're boring. I don't want to. I'd rather watch Dallas
at least there's potential in Dallas right now with the Eagles.
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I just gonna go, oh, my gosh, is every game
gonna be this gut wrenching you know, slam a throw
in there for five yards every play and that's all
we're gonna see. It's there's just kind of a boring watch.
In my opinion, feels like Dallas is like other team's
gonna make a coaching change, barring some run in the playoffs. Yeah, um,
what what are your thoughts on the right fit there? Right?
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There's talk of an urban, there's talk of going and
you know, going to the college route, Like who's the
right fit if and when Jason Garrett does get the
pink slip? Yeah? Yeah, I mean urban urban would certainly
make sense. I do get that. You know again, I
don't think like like I've heard the name of Lincoln
Riley thrown out there. Listen. I respect Lincoln Riley. Cliff
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King's very shown that you can adjust and go to
the NFL and all that, but I don't think this
is the proper team you want him to take over.
This team is like ready to win right now. You know,
you and I have talked about this. You go through
every position on their football team except for safety, and
you go their top five in football in that position,
so it doesn't match up the fact that they got
a top ten defense, a top two offense and they're
sitting here at six and seven. That tells you there's
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managing of the game, managing the team, managing of certain
situations within the game are all going wrong, you know,
And you need somewhat somewhat of a proven combody. I
like the offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. Um I do think
you need more of a little bit of a just
a captain of the ship. Proven understands how to work
with personalities and we'll understand the little intricacies of certain
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situational football to go, oh, this makes sense to get
this guy in here. Irvin Meyer would be that guy
and certainly not going to be intimidated by like the Cowboys,
the Jones family, any of that. Uh. I guess my
big thing there is just to make sure the coaching
staff he could get around him. But you know, I
haven't thought about it a lot as far as names.
I'll think about it more and give you some better
answers next week. I what's your impressions of the Rams?
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The defense look dominant. They're back to given girly the
ball more. But on on football night in America. They
basically led kickoff to finish. Are the Rams back? Yeah,
well yes, I mean I think the first off the
Ravens game is more of like a blip on the radar,
and then like what they actually are as a football team.
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You know, the Ravens are a special team. This year.
They went in there on fire hot. It's a very
tough match up just as far as the players on
the field, the way they play. But yeah, I think
the Rams are going to be a pain in the butt.
I would be shocked if they don't beat the Dallas
Cowboys this weekend. You know, Yes, they're giving the ball
to girly more, and I think they're doing it more
with like first, we're gonna come out in the game
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and run screens and bootlegs and kind of get you
stretched out horizontally, and then we're gonna hit you vertically
with the Todd Gurley run game. The defense is real.
The only thing I really you know, I mean, the
only thing I really questioned it was whether it could
stand up to some of the bigger offensive lines in football,
like we saw with the Baltimore Ravens. But there there
was the Seattle Seahawks game, and they whooped the crap
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out of a bigger offensive line in that game. Certainly,
so I think the Rams, yes, and they can get in,
They're gonna be a force to be reckoned with either way.
They can mess up the Cowboys, the Forts plans all
of them here down the stretch and and maybe mess
up some seating in the NFC playoffs. When did Ryan
Tannehill become Joe Montana? Yeah, well, Ryan Tannehill has been
better than people think or real lize. Like he's one
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of those guys if we went back and sat down
together and watched film in Miami, you'd go, man, he's played.
He played a lot better than I realized when he
was healthy, but every time things started to go good,
he got hurt. Of course, didn't get to play in
that playoff game that year. He's a pretty elite thrower
of the football. He's a good athlete, as you see.
And you know the thing I thought that just I
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get blown away with every week, and I might have
said this to you last week, is he maximizes what's
there to be had on a week to week basis.
You know, I watched some quarterbacks play games, and you
know people will come away and go, well, look at
the bottom line. He threw for three and thirty yards,
and I go, yeah, that's great, but like he should
have thrown for five hundred yards today. There was like
three post routes he missed and another touchdown past he
missed to maximize that. I come away watching Tennessee Titans
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games right now and going, man, there was three hundred
and thirty yards to get and Ryan Tannehill got all
three d and thirty You know that with the running game,
and they have game plan specific defense, right deem P's
Mike Rabo, that New England way. They do creative things
every week. Got a lot of linebackers and defensive linement
and dbs to kind mix and match personnel sets and
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confuse you that way. They're dangerous. They're certainly one of
the hot teams. And plus they're different to me than
the other years we've seen them be in this position,
and that's because of the guy you mentioned. Ryan Tannehill
is just a better quarterback, a better thrower than Marcus Mariota. Therefore,
I just think they're that much more dangerous than we've
seen in the past. He's the one. Only Chris Sims
you'll see him on Football Night in America and Pro
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Football Talk. Chris, great stuff, Marry Christmas to you, and
thanks for joining us. You're the man, Doug. I don't
know if you good Man's top ten, but it's like
top twenty for sure, not be top ten. It's really good.
I don't know. I haven't ranked my movies in a while.
You don't have to rank them again. Drank them put
in the top ten. Thank you, Chris. Fox Sports Radio
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R to listen live. Jerry Jones was on one of five.
Jerry Jones is on the Dallas radio station. Always goes on.
This would be fun. Let's take a listen. There is
a report from Jane Slayer in the NFL network. You
confirm that report there's been a recent meeting between Steven
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or yourself and Urban Meyer. If that's not correct, I
can I can confirm that it is absolutely not correct.
We have not met with any coach, not met with
any specifically. Why in answering that question, I don't want
to imply that we wouldn't in a way that would
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diminish the credibility of sure. In this case a player
or somebody you're asking about Norman. When somebody says, if
you met with such and such, are you interested in
such and such, and you said I have not, its
implication is you're not interested. That shouldn't be brought forward either.
The facts are, we just have not talked to any
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coach potential coach in the NFL. Okay, that was the
weirdest answer everywhere. Ever, this is the strangest relationship. This
is like, look, everybody knows they're getting a divorce. Everyone everyone.
He's like, look, we I haven't asked her out yet.
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It's not because I don't want to ask her out.
It's not because I don't think she's just hot, just
not singlely yet. Right. You know, this is the the
kids are going to college, right, That's what this Wait
for the kids to go to college, That's what it is.
The kids go to college. Whenever the Cowboys lose their
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last game, that's what this is. I want to make
sure this is clear. We have not met with any coach,
not because we're not interested, because we don't think he's awesome,
just because we're not allowed to. The team is leading
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their division, okay, and when you win your division in
the NFL, they have this super strange rule where you
automatically get home advantage. Yeah, we know your division sucks
and you're below five hundred, but we're gonna give you
a home game. Why. I don't know. It seems like
the right thing to do. Not only that, so teams
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leading the division, quarterbacks healthy, running backs healthy, right, everybody's healthy.
Season not over. It's not like they're in life. It's
not like to the Redskins who have fired their coach.
It's it's not like they're the Giants who feel like
they're going to fire their coach. It's the Cowboys who
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they're in prime position. They've already beaten the Eagles, so
the one team that they're tied with in their division,
they hold the tiebreaker over. Now they got one more
game left with them, and their owner, who has repeatedly
been critical of the coaching, said nothing in terms of
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support for Jason Garrett and simply said, like, hey, I'm
not say we're not gonna meet with her Meyer. We
just haven't yet, That's what he said. We have not
met with a Meyer. Yet not because we don't think
omer is amazing. We're just not actually allowed to. I've
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literally never seen this before. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio WAP. Joe Klatt joins us on
The Doug Gotlic Show. Everything good with yesterday, Like I
was so fired up to talk to you and then
all of a sudden you couldn't join us. We're We're
good right like nobody, No, everything is fine. Um. I
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just said, I'm in New York for the College Football
Hall of Fame ceremony National Football Foundation, and I was
stepping into a big reception because it's Jim Delaney's last
Year's a big until there you go. I'm glad you
guys recognized him as such. I mean, he's had an
amazing impact on on on college sport. Um and obviously
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you know they formed a big ten network with with
changed everything. Um. Okay, so Saturday night on a great
comeback for Ohio State, all the guys at the dais
at the desk, I believe, outside of Lenert said that
Ohio State should be number one. Who did you think
should be number one? I thought Ohowo State deserved it.
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The committee had put them there the week before based
on their strength, and then they beat another top ten
team by double digits. They had played maybe the worst
top of football that they played all season in the
first half, and yet still won by double digits. Um.
What people failed to realize, Doug is that was the
third straight week, consecutive weeks that they had finished an
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ap top ten team and beaten them by double digits.
If the shoe was on the other foot and some
SEC team had just done that, we would have been
talking about this streak as as it was. So his stork.
And yet Ohio State doesn't get the benefit of the
doubt because l s U looks good against the team
that quite frankly, I don't know how good they are.
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In Georgia, they lost to South Carolina for God's six
Doug Gotli show on Foxport Trade. I will point out
that Wisconsin lost to Illinois, right, So I mean, if
you you know, like Carolina is a four win team,
Illinois is a six win team. Who if Illinois plays
South Carolina day, who would you pick to win? Probably Illinois.
I think I picked South Carolina, but I like the
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lovey story. He's gonna stay gamefully employed, and they're gonna
make a ball game. So you make up. And you've
seen him, you've seen him. I've only seen him in
highlights and and loved their comebacks. But so I'll bow
to you, Joe Klatt joining us in the dugout. Okay,
so what really matters is I didn't feel like it
was about being number one. It's about not playing number three.
How good is do we have any idea how good
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Clemson actually is because of the schedule they've played and
dominated with the exception of North Carolina game. I think
that's why being number one was so important is because
we don't know how. We think that they could be
really good. Um, they could be dominant for all we know,
but we just haven't seen it. They've strade games, their
quarterback just won the national championship, their head coaching won
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two national championships past three seasons. Really good football team
we know. I think that's what's so interesting about this playoff,
Doug in the semifinal specifically, is that I know How
State is a really good football team, and I still
think It's basically a coin flip because the unknown of Clemson,
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a number one team heading into college footall pay iff
has never actually won the thing. Do you think this
changes because you know it's the old does iron sharpened
iron with those teams matching up? Whereas I don't think
L s U as a walk in the park against Oklahoma,
but they do appear to be a far superior team
to Oklahoma. Gives them not a week off, but a
better chance of prepping in and maybe feeling better about themselves.
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Is this the year that changes? Remember L s U
struggles with mobile quarterbacks, they gave up four yards, still
all miss on the ground overall, and they better come
to play. Their defense certainly look better in the last
couple of games, and I think that's why people are
making them more of the prohibitive favorite against OU. OHU
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is still a really good offense. Their defense seems to
have figured it out, in particular in that big twelfth
championship game. Um yeah, I think L s U wins
and and if there's a number one seed that's going
to win the national Championship, I think it would be
in that mold. They can play really good offense. They
can outscore you. I think their defense is much better
than what they have been statistically, and they're gonna be
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at home for the national championship. If they can get
past Ou, they're gonna be in New Orleans. I think
that's a huge benefit. It absolutely is. You know. It's
also weird is how this schedule, how the schedule works
in terms of who's playing where now which, which kind
of brings me to your point about expanding the college
football playoff. Um, how would you handle it with with
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the travel right, Like, you'd still have a conference championship game? Correct?
I would highly doubt that these guys would get rid
of conference championship. Too much money? Yeah, too too much,
too much money. And there's it's it's really hard to
decide a true conference champion wins. Sometimes teams don't actually
play each other during the year. So if you have that,
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then you have what homesites for the first round? Oh man,
I have no idea, you know, Like, I'm not an
expansion guy. I I wanted to stay afore. I just
want you to have to win your conference in order
to go. Um. That being said, I think that they'll
ultimately do home sites when it grows dug it's growing
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in the next three seasons. There's there's not a doubt
in my mind. I think maybe long term would be
four seasons. I think it grows within three seasons, not
next year, maybe the year following and a quick turnaround,
but definitely that that next season, I think that we're
gonna have an eight team playoff. They're gonna keep conference
championship games, Mike Gass. They'll go back to a host
site to try to reward people for a better regular
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season by giving them a home game. The problem with
that one is is a you're gonna have sixteen games
or whoever plays in the championship, exactly are you gonna
have enough bodies sixteen games? Well, this is what also
bothers me is that the powers that be will be like, oh,
player safety, player safety, And yet they won't change the
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rule to stop the game clock outside of two minutes
after every first down. So we allow the game clock
to stop, and over the course of the season, people
are playing between eighty and a hundred and fifty extra
snaps of football just based on clock mechanics, and and
so all of a sudden, you're gonna be concerned about
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players safety because it's the sixteenth game. I can move
a whole game worth of snaps just through clock rules,
which will not change the actual fundamentals of the game
at all. Joel Clatt, joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show.
That is a a great point, not a good point.
That is a great and super important point that that
I think people inside football, no and other people don't understand.
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Every time you add to those snaps, you're adding more concussions,
beating up players more. It just it. It's it's rough,
right it. It's gonna be hard to field enough teams
and get kids to play in bowl games. Uh, if
they're putting their body through all of those all of
those extra snaps, when some of them are preparing for
the future or some of them getting hurt along the way.
(39:40):
He joins us on The Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, let's go back to the games. How
does Ohio State match up with Clemson. This is a
great matchup because I think these two teams are the
most balanced teams in the country, got really quarterbacks, great defenses.
I think that overall, the talent is probably better for
Ohio State as far as draft picks in particular on
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their defense. And if you're going to stop a pocket passer,
what do you need a great pass rush. That's exactly
what Ohio State has. The reason Shashon didn't have any
sacks in the last two games Dougas Michigan had three
guys on him, Wisconsin had three guys on him. It
was opening up other rushers to get pressure on the quarterback.
If fields is healthy, I think they are a dynamic team.
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When he's converting first down on third downs to his legs,
That's just a big part of their offense. I'm gonna
lean towards Ohio State, but I do it's a bit
of coin clip. I think that's the best game that
we've got. Last thing, um USC decides to not change coaches.
Is that a mistake. I don't know if it's a mistake.
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I just I wonder what they're thinking about in terms
of recruiting. If you look at the top twenty four
players from the state of California, they had zero commitments
for this season. Like, you can't have that, right, um,
But but they kind of did that to themselves, right
because they left because they left him hanging so long. Now, look,
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kids do commit later, and they d commit all the time.
They've had some actually decommit. The top quarterback in the
state what decommitted and went to Alabama. So things can't change.
But USC does this to themselves. They do. And that's
what I've argued for the last two years is that
this instability, whether it was from the president position or
the D position, or even the instability surrounding the head
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coach and the speculation about his status that hurts recruiting. UM.
If this is going to continue and everyone's going to
be speculating about his job status, it's going to continue
to hurt recruiting into next year. UM. I had many
people tell me Doug that this situation and the fact
that the president wanted to be more involved in the
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head coaching decision, and the pool of money if they
wanted to make a change was smaller than most people thought,
based on the fact that they've paid out over four
fifty million dollars to settlements outside the athletic department. UM,
all of that made it less of an attractive job
from an a D standpoint, which is in large part
the reason why they had to kind of settle on
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Mike phone. He was not on the radar original and
they had to kind of settle on Mike. And now
when you look at what USC is, they need consistency
because of the recruiting. Peet great stuff, Joel, Joel Clatt,
Joel enjoy New York. You had an incredible year. By
the way, whoever cuts your hair? I find zero flaws
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with your hair, which really discussed me at our age.
I appreciate you joining us. Hey, that's the best compliment.
I've gotten a right good enough thanks. But when we
live in the same area, you could tell me who
cuts your hair. That's what you could do.
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there are things that make us kid ourselves into believing
(00:45):
that our process was right, because we become result oriented
right last night, the Philadelphia Eagles one game is, by
the way, currently being replayed on the NFL Network, And
it's not the first time, and I've watched it several
times over, so I do actually know. I don't think
I know what I'm saying is true. The Philadelphia Eagles
(01:10):
are not a great football team. I'm not sure they're
even a really good football team. They have some pieces
I like. They still may make the playoffs. And yet
if I was in their boardroom today, if I was
in their front office today, I would say loudly and clearly,
(01:30):
men and women and whomever else is in this room,
we are actually closer to a rebuild or a remodel
then we are to a reload. Let's not get it twisted, right. True,
If Nelson Agilare catches any of the three game winning
(01:54):
receptions he could have caught, their record would be above five. True.
If deshn Um Jackson was healthy, he would take the
top off the defense and you'd have even more room
for their tight ends and running backs and uh other
(02:15):
wide receivers to catch the football. If all Sean Jeffrey
had been healthy earlier in the season, maybe he wouldn't
be such a malcontent. Here's the problem. Sean Jackson's over
thirty years old. He's less likely to be healthy as
his career goes on. All Sean Jeffrey is sorry always hurt.
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Lane Johnson's either hurt or suspended on a yearly basis
that this we do in fact not based upon his
history within the league. They have other pieces that are
close to retirement. And then the biggest change between the
two thousand seventeen Philadelphia Eagles and the two thousand nineteen
Philadelphi Eagles is their defense. That defense was third on
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third down, fourth in yards allowed, first against the run,
fourth in points per game, and they hit the quarterback
the third most times in the National Football League. This
year's defense hits the quarterback to nineteenth most time. They
and the red zone nine quarterback pressures, and they've allowed
the seventh most passing touchdowns. By almost any statistical measure,
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they are an average to below average to frankly bad defense.
You can tell me it's about injuries. You can tell
me it's you know, the problem with winning a Super
Bowl as you lose some pieces. All I can tell
you is with a division where keep in mind, this
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is not your average division. This is not a team
that's playing against a ridiculous schedule. The Philadelphia Eagles are
not only below five at six and seven, but they
have currently two wins over two good teams, and their
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own division has one team already fired their coach, the
Dallas Cowboys going to fire their coach. The New York
Giants looked like they're going to fire their coach, maybe
even their GM. You're in the worst division in football,
and you can't get above five even though you've had
your quarterback the entire year. We can point to all
(04:29):
the other stuff, but this is just in active football team.
That's it. They don't have the personnelity Cowboys, and yet
in a dysfunctional year with a dysfunction division, they can't
separate themselves. Red zone defense that's below average nineteen and
quarterback pressures that's mediocre, which means average nineteen. In points
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per game allowed defensively mediocre average, and they've allowed the
seventh most passing touchdowns. That below average, sub mediocre, it's atrocious.
You can tell yourself it's the injuries, But shouldn't the
division kind of balance that out right? You can tell yourself, Wow,
(05:15):
it's just one of those years where everything goes wrong,
or does everything go wrong for a reason, like, look,
you should we should own the fact that the Eagles
were the best team in football and one the Super
Bowl spite of the fact that a backup quarterback was
kind of playing on a hot streak. But they wanted
because the defense was so good, running game was good
(05:37):
and allowed Nicole and the and the play calling was
good and they were in into a Patriots team that
was not super talented, and they just outscored him and
got one more quarterback pressure, one more turnover, one more stop,
and won a super Bowl. This is not because they're
six and seven. This is not let's not be result oriented.
(06:00):
Result oriented. We'll tell you. Oh listen, if we we
make the we make the playoffs, that were good. No, no,
all Sean got hurt again. The Sean has been hurt
all year. Some of your lineman close to retirement, and
defense ain't great. Now, I'm not saying they should do
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what the Redskins need to do, which is strip it
down and start over or light a match if you will.
They're not the Bengals, they're not the Dolphins. Hey, they're
not a team that if they're not where the where
the Raiders tried to get to last year. Okay, this
is if the how you like the house analogy, you
(06:43):
buy it. Okay, you probably need to read to the kitchen,
read some bathrooms, need knocking down, any walls, paint the
whole house, put in some new carpet, maybe some floors,
and you're good. But what what could happen is your house?
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You look on Zillo and your house is worth a
little bit more in your neighbor's house. Well, that's because
your neighborhood sucks, not because your house is so great. Right.
They're not the Saints. They're not the forty Niners, not
the Vikings have a ton more talent. Hell, they're not
even the Packers. And I know they beat the Packers,
(07:23):
but they're not. They're they're not one of those elite
football teams. I mean, look, they're not the Seahawks. It
is not. But the best of the best are Niners
are uh Saints are Vikings in terms of talent? Maybe
(07:46):
you go Packers. The next tier is Seahawks, The next
tier is Cowboys in terms of talent, right, the next
tier is probably Packers. I mean, think about the Bears.
If they figured out their quarterback situation, who would you rather.
Would you rather have their defense or just your quarterback?
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Kind of what it feels like. So again, this is
not light a match. This is not they say in
my neighborhood. You don't scrape it, you don't knock it
down and start over. On the other hand, in a
bad division, you are a sub five team with an
elite level quarterback, an elite level play color is head coach,
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and yes, your injury plagued and mistake plagued, and you've
had a lot of drops. But if you think that
winning a couple of the games, of those games would
change the fact that you need a bit of a remodel,
You need a freshening of the roster to kid yourself,
which is what happens a lot of times when you
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end up going to the playoffs, as you start thinking
your head, well, you know, we made one play here,
one play there, we win another playoff game and then
all things are great. Now, be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio ah app. Here's the Patriots statement,
(09:17):
and it's a pretty interesting one. Um, it doesn't say
a ton. The production crew is independent of our football operation.
We except full responsibility for the actions of our production
crew at the Browns Bengals game. I do tend to
believe them, but I also believe that whoever is in
(09:37):
charge of them should be fired immediately. Here's why. Here's why. Um, Look,
we all have a past. I have a past. If
you don't know, just read the comments anytime I tweet something,
apparently it's new news to people. That's something I did,
(10:00):
it admitted to doing twenty one years ago. Is worthy
of response to the fact that I said George Kittles
not much of a blocker in comparison to Rob Gronkowski.
Somehow right. I don't really understand the correlation, but on
Twitter it makes sense. We all have a pass and
and and knowing that I'm very sensitive to uh to
(10:24):
some of the sponsorship deals that we do. There's a
company called LifeLock who is a sponsor of sports our
show on Sports Radio, and I was like, look, I
didn't steal anybody's identity. Want to make sure it's clear
it's not the same crime. It's not really actually close.
But I did steal somebody's credit cards and I did
(10:44):
use them twenty one years ago. And if, if, if
you want to make that correlation and not have me
read your advertisements on Fox Sports tray, I fully understand.
Full disclosure is important. So look, it was closer in
terms of proximity and time, but Spygate is still front
(11:09):
and center in any Patriot, any NFL fans mind. So
it's not that the Patriots had any knowledge the real,
actual working Patriots and football team. I tend to believe that,
but the idea that somebody didn't say to the camera
and hey man, whatever you do, don't film the other
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team sending in plays. The league is kind of sensitive
to that, and fans are kind of sensitive to it, right.
It's it's like they're not gonna draft the Patriots are
going to draft a tight end who may or may
not be involved in the murder. Why kind of sensitive
to it. It's the same reason the Patriots had to
(11:52):
get rid of Antonio Brown, the kind of sensitive to
issues with women off the field, the owner. Right, So,
anytime you have a past, and most of us do,
(12:12):
you have to only be cognizant of it, but you
have to make sure you fully disclosed is our past,
and let's stay as far away from that as possible,
far away from that as possible. So I don't think
that the Patriots had anything to do with it, not
just because it's the Bengals, just because I don't think
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anybody's that stupid, and I don't know why the cameraman
did such a thing. And then you know, the worst
possible admittance of guilt is like supposedly he said, like, hey,
can we just throw the tapes out and start all over? Yeah? No, no,
that's you get caught right, Let me just that's that's
(12:57):
telling the cop what pulls you over? Well, do you
want the beer when we just poured out in the
gutter and just let me go home? Call it even.
You know what, what if I just went over to
the passenger's side, or how about you take the beer,
I'll leave my keys on. Just uber home. We're good, right,
Like yeah, not really even close to the way it works.
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Alcoholic shouldn't be anywhere near a bar, and the Patriots
shouldn't have anybody filming anywhere near somebody else's sideline during
an NFL game. By the way, the ultimate irony of
it is apparently the segments called do your job, and
either the cameraman was really doing his job or more
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than likely was not actually doing his job while trying
to cover an advanced scout who was doing his job.
So I just the the whole story is amazing. The
one team who gets caught doing this is the Patriots.
On the other hand, they get caught doing it against
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the Cincinnati Bengals, whom everybody would say, like, if you're
gonna cheat, why the Bengals? Right? How about some of
those Ravens plays seemed to befuddle you the first quarter
when you're down twenty one? Nothing that might help? Oh? Oh,
what about a team like the Houston Texans who just
whooped your ass? Filmed their place. You don't need to
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film the Cincinnati Bengals. Maybe figure out how to stop
Pat Mahomes in the first half. Figure that one out.
Those will come in handy when you get to the playoffs. Right,
and you can give me the Patriots lost two games row,
they're getting desperate. This is what the Patriots do. I
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don't think anybody's that stupid. Definitely not the Patriots. I
just don't be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon.
Pass FAC. Let's welcome in Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk
and Football Night in America. Do you believe the Patriots
football staff had no knowledge of what was going on Cincinnati?
(15:10):
I do. I totally believe it. You know, first off,
I worked there, right, Uh, I think I've told you this, Doug.
I was never around a team that followed the rules more.
I mean, we couldn't have a five dollar bet on
March madness like that. Would you'd get a memo the
next day that said, don't do that. You know the
other things to listen, I know everyone's gonna go there's
a history or all right, hey, deflad gate, that was
(15:30):
a Tom Brady thing. That's not a New England thing.
Spy gate. Okay, at that time, you know, there was
nothing really written in the by laws in the NFL
that was illegal. Yeah, maybe not like Eth the cool
but you know, Belichick is really smart and he's getting
back at Eric Manini too, So you know with this one.
I think the thing I look at is obviously there's
a reputation, right. I don't think New England's stupid enough
(15:52):
to send credential people and do another team's press box
and as they're filming the sideline like thinking they wouldn't
they would get away with it. Number two, like Bill
Belichick isn't gonna like trust some oh random video guys
to you know, come through and crack the code of
the sideline signals of the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, this
is one of the smartest people I've ever been around before. Ever,
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I just think that the video crews stupid in general.
It doesn't sound like anything I've heard that they're a
part of the football, part of the organization. So no,
I'm not I'm not buying it one bit. Okay, I
agree with you. I would say that the guy that's
the dumbass is whoever was in charge the production crew.
That's like one of the things, Hey, guys, listen before
you go out and film this thing, just a reminder
(16:37):
where the Patriots got a little bit of reputation, be
extra careful around filming any other team that plays in
their signals, Right, that's the whoever isn't whoever the executive
producer is who Hi, that's the guy who takes the
fall right, exactly right. I mean you gotta know or
the full you know, scope of the situation. And you
said it right, You're the Patriots. There's a little reputation there,
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They've had some you know issues there already, and you
just I just can't even believe it. Yeah, whoever in
charge of that department is truly stupid to let his people,
uh film the sideline for eight plus minutes or whatever
it was. Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's get to what's actually on the field for the Paths.
The bad news is, they still don't seem to have
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the playmakers right, and there doesn't seem to be an
appetite for Antonio Brown, and he's the only guy really
out there who could be a difference maker. So you're
gonna roll with what what you got. The good news is,
in spite of the fact they don't have those playmakers,
there are a couple of blown calls away from either
tying or being the Kansas City Chiefs, who are one
of the teams they have to go through to get
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to a Super Bowl. So what's your takeaway from their
loss at home to the Chiefs. Yeah, there's a there's
a silver lining. I mean one, Hey, it is the
New England Patriots. I don't know if this offense is
ever going to be anything special this year, but I
think it will be, you know, continue to be tinkered
with too where it's more respectable than it is right now.
But I don't and think it's ever gonna hit some stride.
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We're gonna go. Oh. They they found what they needed
to do and now they're one of the better offenses
in football. No I've seen enough evidence not to now
to know that's not gonna happen. It's gonna be a
little bit of this struggle all year long. The game
itself was crazy. I mean, you're right one the two
blown calls there, you're going, Holy cow, New England gonna
win this game. But the other part of the game,
(18:22):
I would sit there and go it was twenty three
to seven and the Chiefs had the ball at midfield,
and I'm going, whoa, They're about to blow New England
out up into New England. So there was two sides
of that story. But in the typical New England fashion,
what do they do? They block upon then they forced
the Travis Kelsey fumble and all sudden me look up
and go they're kind of getting dominated. But what they
might have a chance to win the game. How is that? Um?
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You know? Kansas City. Kansas City's defense has played better
the last few weeks. Steve Spagnolo, he does some creative
things on defense. He did some New England things to
New England double James White, double Julian Edelman, you know,
showed a lot of like, oh, we're gonna all out
blitz and then dropped back into coverage then then did
all outblits in certain situations. So New England's offense has
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issues all around. Tom Brady included he's not playing great.
The old line is not great. Yes out the weapons
on the outside or nothing special. And I do think
Kansas City showed along with the Houston Texans who did
a little bit of this too, Like if you double
Julian Edelman, who else on New England is going to
step up and beat you right now? And that's the
big question. And I think that's the formula. You're going
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to continue to see defenses due until somebody proves otherwise.
That that fourth and three toss um I talked about
with Trent ill for yesterday. I just kind of want
want your take my I get that that on on tape.
It looks like Jacoby is open. On the other hand,
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he's got his best wide receiver in a corner route,
and I feel like Edelman. Had Edelman just stopped and
made the defender come through him, it would have been
a p I so he could have Brady could have
thrown it a little bit further, a little bit soon
owner or Edelman could have helped his quarterback out a
little bit. I don't think it's as bad a misread
as people who are watching the tape believe. What as
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a guy who's been in that position and knows that offense,
what's what's your take? Yeah, I don't think it's a
misread either. I mean, I think you hit a lot
of the right points there. You know, first off, it's
his best player, it's the one guy he trust. I mean,
you know, Jacobe had already dropped the pass in the
end zone, so I'm sure he's a little unsure there too.
When you all out blitz, like, that's the route you want. See,
(20:30):
when you all out blitz and blitz everybody and there's
no safety in the middle of the field, defenders play
inside because they know they have no help there, so
they try to cut off the inside. Therefore, you know,
that's the route you really want. But Shad Brelan did
a great job. You know. The other thing too, is uh, yeah,
you're right, Julian maybe could have played it a little
better way. He slows down and then Brithleyn runs into him.
(20:52):
And also Brady doesn't need to fall down, but nobody
hits Brady falls down like he could stand tall in
there and deliver the ball. You could have maybe of
the ball one extra second to give him a little
more time to separate whatever it may be. But yeah,
I'm with you totally. But you know, right now New
England's New England's issues are across the board. Brady's forty two,
that's just the fact of the matter. And he's not
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capable of carrying the offense like he was years ago.
And of course they're having issues at offensive line. They're
now his dominant and running game. And we know the receivers.
The receiver issues are well documented as well. I watched
the Eagles last night, and I understand that if Nelson
Aghilar catches a ball against the Falcons, for example, they
win that game. And uh, there's several games in which
(21:35):
if Nelson Aguilar just individually catches one more ball, they
win the games. Game. Patriots game right in his hands
in the end zone. Unbelievable throw. He drops it. That said,
you know, I mean like des Sean Jackson been hurt
obviously that that hurts you. But he's older. Older guys
get hurt. All Shan Jeffreys kind of always hurt. Their
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defense isn't nearly what it used to be. I think
they're closer to not a gut job, okay, but a
but a remodel. Yeah. I think they're closer to a
remodel than they are a little bit of good luck
and catches away from being a ten win team. Where
are you in the Eagles? I agree? I totally agree.
I mean, first off, you know, I I don't like
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the criticism around Carson Wentz because I want to you know,
you just kind of said it like who who scares
you in Philadelphia? I mean, come on, I think Doug,
you and me are as fast as some of the
receivers that were out there last night, and certainly just
the normal everyday fans not gonna know who the hell
those guys where he was throwing too. But yeah, it's
more than just like, oh, we gotta go into this
offseason and sign one or two guys and our problems
(22:39):
are fixed. I agree with you. You know, they need,
you know, a better group of running backs. They certainly
need to revamp the wide receiver position. You know, the
old line. Okay, that's good. They don't have to worry
about that. The defensive line has not been as dominant.
Uh So there's gotta be some tinkering there. Uh. You
know you talk about the cornerback position. Obviously you saw
the first half that was an issue. I got an
(23:01):
issue with the game plan too, as far as what
they did on the defensive side of the ball. Guy
has you know, got a guy in Eli Manning, yes,
a Hall of Famer, but hasn't played football at eleven weeks.
You're just gonna line up and play man Demand every place,
so he doesn't even have to think or do anything
and just throw a slant or a fade route Like
I I didn't understand that. And of course the second
half they adjusted. So I think there's a lot of things.
(23:21):
Like you said, remodeling is the perfect thing. They don't
need to blow it up. There's still a lot of
like key vital pieces that they got um. But there's
certainly a little work to do on that roster to
improve it, to get it back to where it's it's
super Bowl worthy. Like right now, I don't even want
them to make the playoffs. I don't want that team.
They're boring. I don't want to. I'd rather watch Dallas
at least there's potential in Dallas right now with the Eagles.
(23:43):
I just gonna go, oh, my gosh, is every game
gonna be this gut wrenching you know, slam a throw
in there for five yards every play and that's all
we're gonna see. It's there's just kind of a boring watch.
In my opinion, feels like Dallas is like other team's
gonna make a coaching change, barring some run in the playoffs. Yeah, um,
what what are your thoughts on the right fit there? Right?
(24:03):
There's talk of an urban, there's talk of going and
you know, going to the college route, Like who's the
right fit if and when Jason Garrett does get the
pink slip? Yeah? Yeah, I mean urban urban would certainly
make sense. I do get that. You know again, I
don't think like like I've heard the name of Lincoln
Riley thrown out there. Listen. I respect Lincoln Riley. Cliff
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King's very shown that you can adjust and go to
the NFL and all that, but I don't think this
is the proper team you want him to take over.
This team is like ready to win right now. You know,
you and I have talked about this. You go through
every position on their football team except for safety, and
you go their top five in football in that position,
so it doesn't match up the fact that they got
a top ten defense, a top two offense and they're
sitting here at six and seven. That tells you there's
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managing of the game, managing the team, managing of certain
situations within the game are all going wrong, you know,
And you need somewhat somewhat of a proven combody. I
like the offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. Um I do think
you need more of a little bit of a just
a captain of the ship. Proven understands how to work
with personalities and we'll understand the little intricacies of certain
(25:10):
situational football to go, oh, this makes sense to get
this guy in here. Irvin Meyer would be that guy
and certainly not going to be intimidated by like the Cowboys,
the Jones family, any of that. Uh. I guess my
big thing there is just to make sure the coaching
staff he could get around him. But you know, I
haven't thought about it a lot as far as names.
I'll think about it more and give you some better
answers next week. I what's your impressions of the Rams?
(25:31):
The defense look dominant. They're back to given girly the
ball more. But on on football night in America. They
basically led kickoff to finish. Are the Rams back? Yeah,
well yes, I mean I think the first off the
Ravens game is more of like a blip on the radar,
and then like what they actually are as a football team.
(25:52):
You know, the Ravens are a special team. This year.
They went in there on fire hot. It's a very
tough match up just as far as the players on
the field, the way they play. But yeah, I think
the Rams are going to be a pain in the butt.
I would be shocked if they don't beat the Dallas
Cowboys this weekend. You know, Yes, they're giving the ball
to girly more, and I think they're doing it more
with like first, we're gonna come out in the game
(26:12):
and run screens and bootlegs and kind of get you
stretched out horizontally, and then we're gonna hit you vertically
with the Todd Gurley run game. The defense is real.
The only thing I really you know, I mean, the
only thing I really questioned it was whether it could
stand up to some of the bigger offensive lines in football,
like we saw with the Baltimore Ravens. But there there
was the Seattle Seahawks game, and they whooped the crap
(26:32):
out of a bigger offensive line in that game. Certainly,
so I think the Rams, yes, and they can get in,
They're gonna be a force to be reckoned with either way.
They can mess up the Cowboys, the Forts plans all
of them here down the stretch and and maybe mess
up some seating in the NFC playoffs. When did Ryan
Tannehill become Joe Montana? Yeah, well, Ryan Tannehill has been
better than people think or real lize. Like he's one
(26:56):
of those guys if we went back and sat down
together and watched film in Miami, you'd go, man, he's played.
He played a lot better than I realized when he
was healthy, but every time things started to go good,
he got hurt. Of course, didn't get to play in
that playoff game that year. He's a pretty elite thrower
of the football. He's a good athlete, as you see.
And you know the thing I thought that just I
(27:17):
get blown away with every week, and I might have
said this to you last week, is he maximizes what's
there to be had on a week to week basis.
You know, I watched some quarterbacks play games, and you
know people will come away and go, well, look at
the bottom line. He threw for three and thirty yards,
and I go, yeah, that's great, but like he should
have thrown for five hundred yards today. There was like
three post routes he missed and another touchdown past he
missed to maximize that. I come away watching Tennessee Titans
(27:41):
games right now and going, man, there was three hundred
and thirty yards to get and Ryan Tannehill got all
three d and thirty You know that with the running game,
and they have game plan specific defense, right deem P's
Mike Rabo, that New England way. They do creative things
every week. Got a lot of linebackers and defensive linement
and dbs to kind mix and match personnel sets and
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confuse you that way. They're dangerous. They're certainly one of
the hot teams. And plus they're different to me than
the other years we've seen them be in this position,
and that's because of the guy you mentioned. Ryan Tannehill
is just a better quarterback, a better thrower than Marcus Mariota. Therefore,
I just think they're that much more dangerous than we've
seen in the past. He's the one. Only Chris Sims
you'll see him on Football Night in America and Pro
(28:22):
Football Talk. Chris, great stuff, Marry Christmas to you, and
thanks for joining us. You're the man, Doug. I don't
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top twenty for sure, not be top ten. It's really good.
I don't know. I haven't ranked my movies in a while.
You don't have to rank them again. Drank them put
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R to listen live. Jerry Jones was on one of five.
Jerry Jones is on the Dallas radio station. Always goes on.
This would be fun. Let's take a listen. There is
a report from Jane Slayer in the NFL network. You
confirm that report there's been a recent meeting between Steven
(29:04):
or yourself and Urban Meyer. If that's not correct, I
can I can confirm that it is absolutely not correct.
We have not met with any coach, not met with
any specifically. Why in answering that question, I don't want
to imply that we wouldn't in a way that would
(29:25):
diminish the credibility of sure. In this case a player
or somebody you're asking about Norman. When somebody says, if
you met with such and such, are you interested in
such and such, and you said I have not, its
implication is you're not interested. That shouldn't be brought forward either.
The facts are, we just have not talked to any
(29:47):
coach potential coach in the NFL. Okay, that was the
weirdest answer everywhere. Ever, this is the strangest relationship. This
is like, look, everybody knows they're getting a divorce. Everyone everyone.
He's like, look, we I haven't asked her out yet.
(30:09):
It's not because I don't want to ask her out.
It's not because I don't think she's just hot, just
not singlely yet. Right. You know, this is the the
kids are going to college, right, That's what this Wait
for the kids to go to college, That's what it is.
The kids go to college. Whenever the Cowboys lose their
(30:32):
last game, that's what this is. I want to make
sure this is clear. We have not met with any coach,
not because we're not interested, because we don't think he's awesome,
just because we're not allowed to. The team is leading
(30:53):
their division, okay, and when you win your division in
the NFL, they have this super strange rule where you
automatically get home advantage. Yeah, we know your division sucks
and you're below five hundred, but we're gonna give you
a home game. Why. I don't know. It seems like
the right thing to do. Not only that, so teams
(31:13):
leading the division, quarterbacks healthy, running backs healthy, right, everybody's healthy.
Season not over. It's not like they're in life. It's
not like to the Redskins who have fired their coach.
It's it's not like they're the Giants who feel like
they're going to fire their coach. It's the Cowboys who
(31:35):
they're in prime position. They've already beaten the Eagles, so
the one team that they're tied with in their division,
they hold the tiebreaker over. Now they got one more
game left with them, and their owner, who has repeatedly
been critical of the coaching, said nothing in terms of
(31:56):
support for Jason Garrett and simply said, like, hey, I'm
not say we're not gonna meet with her Meyer. We
just haven't yet, That's what he said. We have not
met with a Meyer. Yet not because we don't think
omer is amazing. We're just not actually allowed to. I've
(32:17):
literally never seen this before. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio WAP. Joe Klatt joins us on
The Doug Gotlic Show. Everything good with yesterday, Like I
was so fired up to talk to you and then
all of a sudden you couldn't join us. We're We're
good right like nobody, No, everything is fine. Um. I
(32:40):
just said, I'm in New York for the College Football
Hall of Fame ceremony National Football Foundation, and I was
stepping into a big reception because it's Jim Delaney's last
Year's a big until there you go. I'm glad you
guys recognized him as such. I mean, he's had an
amazing impact on on on college sport. Um and obviously
(33:01):
you know they formed a big ten network with with
changed everything. Um. Okay, so Saturday night on a great
comeback for Ohio State, all the guys at the dais
at the desk, I believe, outside of Lenert said that
Ohio State should be number one. Who did you think
should be number one? I thought Ohowo State deserved it.
(33:24):
The committee had put them there the week before based
on their strength, and then they beat another top ten
team by double digits. They had played maybe the worst
top of football that they played all season in the
first half, and yet still won by double digits. Um.
What people failed to realize, Doug is that was the
third straight week, consecutive weeks that they had finished an
(33:47):
ap top ten team and beaten them by double digits.
If the shoe was on the other foot and some
SEC team had just done that, we would have been
talking about this streak as as it was. So his stork.
And yet Ohio State doesn't get the benefit of the
doubt because l s U looks good against the team
that quite frankly, I don't know how good they are.
(34:09):
In Georgia, they lost to South Carolina for God's six
Doug Gotli show on Foxport Trade. I will point out
that Wisconsin lost to Illinois, right, So I mean, if
you you know, like Carolina is a four win team,
Illinois is a six win team. Who if Illinois plays
South Carolina day, who would you pick to win? Probably Illinois.
I think I picked South Carolina, but I like the
(34:29):
lovey story. He's gonna stay gamefully employed, and they're gonna
make a ball game. So you make up. And you've
seen him, you've seen him. I've only seen him in
highlights and and loved their comebacks. But so I'll bow
to you, Joe Klatt joining us in the dugout. Okay,
so what really matters is I didn't feel like it
was about being number one. It's about not playing number three.
How good is do we have any idea how good
(34:51):
Clemson actually is because of the schedule they've played and
dominated with the exception of North Carolina game. I think
that's why being number one was so important is because
we don't know how. We think that they could be
really good. Um, they could be dominant for all we know,
but we just haven't seen it. They've strade games, their
quarterback just won the national championship, their head coaching won
(35:13):
two national championships past three seasons. Really good football team
we know. I think that's what's so interesting about this playoff,
Doug in the semifinal specifically, is that I know How
State is a really good football team, and I still
think It's basically a coin flip because the unknown of Clemson,
(35:33):
a number one team heading into college footall pay iff
has never actually won the thing. Do you think this
changes because you know it's the old does iron sharpened
iron with those teams matching up? Whereas I don't think
L s U as a walk in the park against Oklahoma,
but they do appear to be a far superior team
to Oklahoma. Gives them not a week off, but a
better chance of prepping in and maybe feeling better about themselves.
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Is this the year that changes? Remember L s U
struggles with mobile quarterbacks, they gave up four yards, still
all miss on the ground overall, and they better come
to play. Their defense certainly look better in the last
couple of games, and I think that's why people are
making them more of the prohibitive favorite against OU. OHU
(36:20):
is still a really good offense. Their defense seems to
have figured it out, in particular in that big twelfth
championship game. Um yeah, I think L s U wins
and and if there's a number one seed that's going
to win the national Championship, I think it would be
in that mold. They can play really good offense. They
can outscore you. I think their defense is much better
than what they have been statistically, and they're gonna be
(36:43):
at home for the national championship. If they can get
past Ou, they're gonna be in New Orleans. I think
that's a huge benefit. It absolutely is. You know. It's
also weird is how this schedule, how the schedule works
in terms of who's playing where now which, which kind
of brings me to your point about expanding the college
football playoff. Um, how would you handle it with with
(37:05):
the travel right, Like, you'd still have a conference championship game? Correct?
I would highly doubt that these guys would get rid
of conference championship. Too much money? Yeah, too too much,
too much money. And there's it's it's really hard to
decide a true conference champion wins. Sometimes teams don't actually
play each other during the year. So if you have that,
(37:27):
then you have what homesites for the first round? Oh man,
I have no idea, you know, Like, I'm not an
expansion guy. I I wanted to stay afore. I just
want you to have to win your conference in order
to go. Um. That being said, I think that they'll
ultimately do home sites when it grows dug it's growing
(37:48):
in the next three seasons. There's there's not a doubt
in my mind. I think maybe long term would be
four seasons. I think it grows within three seasons, not
next year, maybe the year following and a quick turnaround,
but definitely that that next season, I think that we're
gonna have an eight team playoff. They're gonna keep conference
championship games, Mike Gass. They'll go back to a host
site to try to reward people for a better regular
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season by giving them a home game. The problem with
that one is is a you're gonna have sixteen games
or whoever plays in the championship, exactly are you gonna
have enough bodies sixteen games? Well, this is what also
bothers me is that the powers that be will be like, oh,
player safety, player safety, And yet they won't change the
(38:34):
rule to stop the game clock outside of two minutes
after every first down. So we allow the game clock
to stop, and over the course of the season, people
are playing between eighty and a hundred and fifty extra
snaps of football just based on clock mechanics, and and
so all of a sudden, you're gonna be concerned about
(38:57):
players safety because it's the sixteenth game. I can move
a whole game worth of snaps just through clock rules,
which will not change the actual fundamentals of the game
at all. Joel Clatt, joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show.
That is a a great point, not a good point.
That is a great and super important point that that
I think people inside football, no and other people don't understand.
(39:19):
Every time you add to those snaps, you're adding more concussions,
beating up players more. It just it. It's it's rough,
right it. It's gonna be hard to field enough teams
and get kids to play in bowl games. Uh, if
they're putting their body through all of those all of
those extra snaps, when some of them are preparing for
the future or some of them getting hurt along the way.
(39:40):
He joins us on The Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, let's go back to the games. How
does Ohio State match up with Clemson. This is a
great matchup because I think these two teams are the
most balanced teams in the country, got really quarterbacks, great defenses.
I think that overall, the talent is probably better for
Ohio State as far as draft picks in particular on
(40:01):
their defense. And if you're going to stop a pocket passer,
what do you need a great pass rush. That's exactly
what Ohio State has. The reason Shashon didn't have any
sacks in the last two games Dougas Michigan had three
guys on him, Wisconsin had three guys on him. It
was opening up other rushers to get pressure on the quarterback.
If fields is healthy, I think they are a dynamic team.
(40:24):
When he's converting first down on third downs to his legs,
That's just a big part of their offense. I'm gonna
lean towards Ohio State, but I do it's a bit
of coin clip. I think that's the best game that
we've got. Last thing, um USC decides to not change coaches.
Is that a mistake. I don't know if it's a mistake.
(40:46):
I just I wonder what they're thinking about in terms
of recruiting. If you look at the top twenty four
players from the state of California, they had zero commitments
for this season. Like, you can't have that, right, um,
But but they kind of did that to themselves, right
because they left because they left him hanging so long. Now, look,
(41:08):
kids do commit later, and they d commit all the time.
They've had some actually decommit. The top quarterback in the
state what decommitted and went to Alabama. So things can't change.
But USC does this to themselves. They do. And that's
what I've argued for the last two years is that
this instability, whether it was from the president position or
the D position, or even the instability surrounding the head
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coach and the speculation about his status that hurts recruiting. UM.
If this is going to continue and everyone's going to
be speculating about his job status, it's going to continue
to hurt recruiting into next year. UM. I had many
people tell me Doug that this situation and the fact
that the president wanted to be more involved in the
(41:51):
head coaching decision, and the pool of money if they
wanted to make a change was smaller than most people thought,
based on the fact that they've paid out over four
fifty million dollars to settlements outside the athletic department. UM,
all of that made it less of an attractive job
from an a D standpoint, which is in large part
the reason why they had to kind of settle on
(42:12):
Mike phone. He was not on the radar original and
they had to kind of settle on Mike. And now
when you look at what USC is, they need consistency
because of the recruiting. Peet great stuff, Joel, Joel Clatt,
Joel enjoy New York. You had an incredible year. By
the way, whoever cuts your hair? I find zero flaws
(42:33):
with your hair, which really discussed me at our age.
I appreciate you joining us. Hey, that's the best compliment.
I've gotten a right good enough thanks. But when we
live in the same area, you could tell me who
cuts your hair. That's what you could do.
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