How Odell Saved Dave Gettleman

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I don't know about some in the National Football League. Well,
we are literally sitting here watching TV screens, watching social media,
waiting for the ball to drop on the tenure of

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Jason Garrett as the Dallas Cowboys head go which kind
of messed up. Yeah, it's it is like waiting for
him to lose his job. But that's not cool. We
just kind of think it's a formality. We are kind
of in the process of we know that he's met
with the team, we know that he's met with the
players and spoke with them, and there were reports saying
that kind of hand that goodbye sort of feel, and

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then there was the meeting with the Jones. Is that
Jason Garrett is having right now. He's in the final
year of his five year contract. Jason Garrett, we think
will be out of a job with the Dallas Cowboys,
but stranger things have happened. And it is the National
Football League where sometimes when you think, you know, you
have no idea, you never have any idea. You never

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know what anyone is thinking. And that is the that's
the hardest thing about being in the in the NFL,
or in professional sports or any job that is you
have no idea what upstairs is thinking, you know. And
I mean we saw a firsthand when when Freddie Kitchens
there was a report that he was emotional because he
thought the organization had his back, and it's like you

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just you never nothing is ever, ever guaranteed. You got
to play with coaches that were i mean Tom Coughlin,
Mike McCarthy, they weren't going anywhere, were exactly Yeah. But
does does any mess sidge ever, you know, fall down
to the locker room where you're like, whether it be
a position change, whether it be or does it basically

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stay up there and the locker room is kind of uh,
you know, in the dark on it or do you
get that feeling when you're within the organization of like, okay,
there could be a change coming. Maybe it's just a
matter of time. Um well, I felt like you know,
in Green Bay, if there were things going on, you
really and know they kept literally there wasn't upstairs. I
always referred to upstairs as where the executives are with

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a front office is so everytime, sure here guys talking
sports being upstairs or the third floor. So yeah, we
didn't really get a lot of news. However, I was
there with the whole Aeron Rodgers far thing, but that
was that was very transparent. You were you knew, Okay,
they're ready to move on. Far wasn't trying to move
on like that was very very clear. However, it never
really came into the locker room where it bothered us

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because I mean for for the players, it was a
win win situation because they both were very very good,
you know, Hall of Fame players, um. And then also
in New York things were going so well, where once
again there was drama. You really didn't hear about it.
Um being came coming from upstairs. And even there was
drama the team and mccaffin had his own, uh little
committee like if they were veteran players, if there was

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an issue in the locker room. Then you know, if
it got too big to handle amongst ourselves, then go
to coach. The Giants are in the news because they
did this miss Pat Shermer today after two seasons, and
to me not surprising at all considering for the last
couple of weeks we had heard the Giants ownership Steve Tiss,

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John Merrill wanting to do a complete overhaul of this organization.
Now it's not a complete overall because Dave Gettleman still
has his job as general manager after two years on
the job. And the issue that I look at with
the Giants and actually look at it like this will
for the entire National Football League when you're a head coach,

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and I know this is Pat Shermer's second chance at
being an NFL head coach, and maybe it wasn't a
fair shake in Cleveland. It may not be a fair
shake that he got with the Giants. But realistically, when
you're a general manager, you have an opportunity to hire
in my mind, to head coaches. Hopefully you don't have
to do that. You could just hire one and you

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guys working concert for the next you know, ten to
fifteen years, maybe something like you have in Seattle with
John Schnetder and Pete Carroll working hand in hand. But
Gettleman is the boss. Pat Shermer was the head coach,
and now Dave Gettleman's got the decision to make. When
you have a quarterback like Daniel Jones, when you have
see Kwan Barkley as you're running back, when those are
the draft picks you needed, you've got to find the

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coach to maximize that and turn that around. I'm not
surprised that Dave Gettleman is staying just because I think
a GM really has the opportunity to hire two head coaches,
because you can't say that the Jones and Barkley picks
were awful picks. They may end up becoming Pro ball
and all pro players. It's just a simple fact of
the matter. The Giants weren't winning. You gotta get a

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new guy in there. Dave Gettleman has made the he's
got a plan, he's made the picks. You've got to
at least see some of that through. Does that make
any sense? So it does, especially there are there are
different tiers. You have the owners who hire you know,
the GM, and then you give the GM a chance
to construct and design his type of team. Now, if
you keep switching gms, and you're gonna keep switching what

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type of team and trying to build, So it's the
GM's job to Okay, let me finally get the right
head coach in place to make this thing go and
then who can actually develop the talent that I'm that
I'm bringing here. So um, it's but yeah, it's way
too early to to move on from a general manager
like that. I will go out and say this as
well about Dave Gettleman. I think a deal like the

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Odell Beckham Jr. Deal that he did with the Cleveland
Browns helps him in this situation. And I know that
the Odell situation did not work out in Cleveland. You
have no idea how it would work work out with
the Giants. But the point that it didn't work out
in Cleveland and now seems that Odell Beckham Jr. Wants
out of there shows that Dave Gentleman maybe does have
a feel for the organization, does have a feel of

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what he wants of being able to understand this player
may not fit in what we want to do, fair
or unfair. When you take a look at the deal
that the Giants ended up making just the willingness to
deal Odell Beckham Jr. And seeing the year that O
b J had the Cleveland Browns, to me, is very
vacation enough for Dave Gettleman to stick around because Sa

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Kwon Barkley for the for the controversy of of Sa
Kwon Barkley or Sam Donald sort of conversation, Barkley has
lived up to the expectations. There are a lot of
people in that locker room that think that Daniel Jones
is the guy that is going to be that quarterback.
So the biggest moves that he has made, you can't
say that they have failed, but for some reason, they
aren't translating to victories. And that's that's why I think

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like even a trade like ob J where he fails
in Cleveland, shows that maybe Dave Gettleman knew something that
others didn't know, and you want to see that plan through. Yeah,
I mean, I I disagree in terms of uh, oh
b J not succeeding in Cleveland is any kind of
validation because I mean, you look what's going on in
Cleveland right now. It's it's a mess everywhere. Um, he's

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on a team where it's meaning O b J. Where
it's town. There's time all overplaced. But the culture is horrendous,
you know. And so UM, I feel like what with
ghetto man, he just he understands, you know, the whole
stigma of what the Giants are about. You know, he
was there as a scouting in Um. He signed me

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when I was there in two thousand ten. Yeah, when
I when I worked out for the Giants in two
thousand ten. Um, he's he's the guy I worked out
for is he and I? You know, and he watched
every move and gave me a chance twice UM to
come back there and actually actually went a title with them.
So I think this is a matter of just him
just trying to understand and figure out what's going There's
so much going on. You move from, you move on

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from a player like O. B J. And then eventually
you're gonna move on, you know, you have moved on
from Eli. Um. Those are two household names when you
think of the New York Giants in recent years. UM
and so it's it's interesting there of trying to continue
to remodel, rebuild, and reshape. Fair or unfair though when
you say that the culture in Cleveland is so bad.

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I mean because of who oh b J is. Isn't
he a part of that culture or a reason maybe
why it is what it is. No, I think when
it comes down to the culture in Cleveland, it's you
have a lot of major, major personalities there. And I
said this earlier this year. Um, I looked at that

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rock So I'm I guess talent everywhere, but huge personalities.
And it can either go really well for Cleveland or
it can be really bad for Cleveland. And you need
a guy there who's able to manage all of that.
And we spoke earlier, you know, before we went on air, saying, Okay,
when you look at the Cowboys, the person who speaks

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all the time Jerry Jones, Right, if you look at Cleveland,
the person who speaks all the time as Baker. Yeah,
I don't, I don't I get I really get Freddie quotes.
I'm always getting Baker. Let's they're out a T shirt
given to him by his daughter. That's the the Pittsburgh
started it sort of thing. Yeah, it's it's it's very
it's very fair. It's very true. We do hear Dave

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Gettleman speak on the Giants issues there are people speaking
with the Giants as that mentioned ownership as well. I
just think this and it's actually it sounds like it's
disrespect to oh b J. But what it really is
will is Dave Gettleman's ability to take a risk in
a move that some may say is not going to

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work out, like he did with se Kawon Barkley over
Sam Donald, like he did with Daniel Jones with the
sixth overall pick, like he did in trading Odell Beckham Jr.
When you also make those sort of moves, you are
being bold, You are putting yourself out there, and you
probably do need more time to form what is a
round now. The only issue that I see coming with

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keeping Gettleman around is now the next head coach is
in a situation where if you accept that job and
the turnaround isn't as quick as you would have hoped,
then now all of a sudden, your NFL head coaching
career may end up like Pat Shermer's because the Giants
then would likely make a change with the front office
and you bring a new GM in there, and more

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often than not, they aren't going to be the ones
to keep the head coach. We know that. It's just
that it's the only thing that I could see be
a hiccup with Dave Gettleman. Is the guy that you
find next has got to have some sort of assurance
that he isn't gonna be like Ben McAdoo or be
like Pat Shermer, or go out with the general manager.

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If Dave Getleman doesn't get his job done, no, and
and and I agree with that. I had a little
many argument what chicken end does from NBC over in
the d C about he was saying that the Rescues
need to take their time and hire a head coach.
I'm like, well, that Redskin has been doing their jill
just the whole year. You know. I feel like when
a team moves on from a coach so early, like

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the Giants are right now, it's because they have somebody
that they want, They have somebody in mind. And it
reminds me of the Arizona Cardinals. They did this in
two key positions in one year. They had Steve Wilkes
and they moved on from him in less than like
twelve months, and and hire Kingsbury. Why, that's probably who
they want it the whole time. It's almost like Steve

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Wilkes was hired just to buy time to get him.
And then you know, you go into the draft, you
have a first round quarterback and Josh Rosen and then okay,
the guy who we really want is available, so you
move on from Rosen and you get Colin Murray. So
I look at it like that for the Giants, like
they have somebody in mind who they want. Yeah, there
is something to what you're saying. Because I thought the

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Cardinals were idiots. I thought that they wasted a complete year,
and now looking back and seeing what they did this season,
it was they were just cutting their losses as quickly
as they could. I almost owe them in a hoology. Yeah,
it's it's like, you know, if if you're of course,
okay you have Josh Rosen a quarterway, if you're not sure,
or if you see a guy and he's available for you,

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and you're like, this guy is the next whatever mahomes Jackson,
he's next. We have to get, especially Steve conn I
mean he has a short lease right now too. I
believe he has to get it done very soon. So yeah,
guys are making guys. Teams want to win now, and
I give, I give the Cardinals credit because just like
the Baltimore Ravens did different than everybody else in the

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National Football League and how they built their team. We
saw how it's paid dividends this season, Arizona did it
differently as well, but in a different way, and they
seem to be growing. I'm sure the Giants would love
to have some of these success or the growing nous
that is with the Arizona Cardinals. A lot of change
in the NFC East again. We are on Jason Garrett watch.
We told you Pat Shermer out as the head coach

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of the Giants, but Dave Gentleman is going to stay
and we expect Ron Rivera to be named the head
go to the Washington Redskins at some point later on today,
according to multiple reports, as he is expected to meet
with Redskins brass. That brass does not include Bruce Allen,
who was dismissed today after ten seasons as the president
of the Washington Redskins, so a change in DC. Will

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have to see if Ron Rivera gets more power as
well with the Washington Redskins as he ends up likely
moving into that organization, but nothing official yet from d C.
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are sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. And last night was a classic between
the Seahawks and forty Niners, but it also changed the
NFL moving forward. Will tell you how next year on
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Heart Radio app. He's Will Blackman. I'm Dan Buyer. We
are sitting in for Doug today. What a classic last night,
number two fifty six. It was as it was being
referenced during the broadcast the final game of the regular season,
Seahawks and Niners playing that classic in Seattle last night,
which changed a whole lot of what could have been
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happened last night, because in the end, in the end,

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I actually think that there's a silver lining for the
Seattle Seahawks. But there was a lot coming down on
the Seahawks last night. Will for how they handled their
late game situation with no time out. No, it was
not okay, there was no rain that was bothering the Seahawks.
It was a pastor Russell Wilson to rookie John or Suwa,

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who caught the ball at basically the half yard line. Seattle,
with no time outs, ran to the line and spiked
the football to stop the clock. But that's when the
chaos started. So you have the Seahawks not in a
situation where they are prepared to run a goal line
play with about twenty seconds or so left on the clock.
They end up taking a delay of game, but it

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doesn't end their will because with the delay of game,
they were moved back to the six yard line. There
was then a third down pass that was intended for
Jacob Hollister that appeared to be pass interference but was
never looked at by the referees to be a possible
review situation. Seattle was then stopped short on the goal

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line on fourth down, maybe the one inch line, and
the forty Niners end up winning. That's how it all
played out last night. I want to start with the
delay of game call. Is there any possible reason why
Seattle could or should get a pass for not ending
that situation correctly? No? No, there it is, there it

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is I I figured as much that it was a
it was a short. I felt this. I thought I
was on the stand no, and don't worry. It was
a it was a yes or no question. The fact
of the Seahawks, the issue that I thought will was
they didn't have their goal line personnel in which was
a which was something that was confusing because on the

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previous play they got the first down, or the previous
play prior to the spike, they were able to get
the first down but didn't did not get into the
end zone. So now when you're out there and you
don't have your personnel, that seemed to me to be
the biggest confusion of all that Seattle just didn't have
the right players on the field with twenty two seconds
left on the clock, so you end up taking a

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delay of game. But my whole issue with the delay
of game situation will is let's say that you change
personnel with the Seahawks and that they do get Marshawn
Lynch in the game at the time. I actually don't
think that the delay of game hurt them as much
as people think. For this simple case, if you run

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Marshawn Lynch on a goal line play with twenty two
seconds left and he gets stopped, what is the likelihood
that you can run another play or two plays after
that play? Well, I mean if Marshawn came in during
that goal of situation, they already have two plays called
in that situation. So yeah, it's like, okay, we run him,

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you know, well, maybe we don't run them. Don't say
if they did random and then he got up line up,
we might have we might have five seconds to run
another play, and then you go and run that second play.
So um, that's why I think getting pushed back did
hurt them, because now they are stuck with one play. Well, remember,
so they spike on first down, so that takes first

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down out of the equation if the personnel exchange ended
up working well for them at second down, Let's say
you have Marshawn Lynch go over the top and he
gets stuffed. There's a aisle of players there, and now
you are under twenty seconds trying to sort out everything
that went on, whether it be getting Marshawn Lynch out

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of the pile, whether it be getting offensive linemen standing up.
That's what actually really hurt them in the first place,
with the injury to George Fan when they were trying
to spike the ball because he was back around the
thirty yard line. I actually don't think that the Seahawks
were crushed because of the delay of game call, because
I think they were very limited in what they could
do at the goal line with a play call, just

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because they had no time outs and there were only
twenty seconds. If if you ran a play to Marshawn Lynch,
there was actually no guarantee because of the pile, because
of the amount of players that you would get another playoffs.
So even if two plays were called, I just I
don't know if necessarily a handoff to Marshawn Lynch for
as great of a story as it would be, that
would be this best case scenario for Seattle. In that case, Yeah,

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you know what is is like once they got that
the the penalty and they got backed up. My issue is,
you know, I go back to the Super Bowl, you know,
when they threw the slant, Yeah, that got picked off.
My thing is they threw that ball two maybe their
fourth or fifth receiver, and Ricardo Lockett special team, Yeah,

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special teams demon and and I thought he was he's
he's amazing um on special teams, special teams. Right. They
threw a cruiser pass to him. When you got Dug ball,
when you got your main curage, you've got a bunch
of guys out there. Even Christ Matthews was doing him. Um.
In this case, they do it to John Orsua. And
if you especially, I feel like, if you're throwing a slant,
you want a big body in there. Dk mettcalf would

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have been perfect. Who cares if they know and it
was going to him, let him muscle, let him fight
for it. Throw it to him, you know, And that's
my only thing. And unfortunately, you know, they they lost
on the goal line. Throwing passes to fourth or fifth receiver. Well,
they were also down to those guys because they have
been banged up during brow Jeron Brown was knocked out

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of the game. Uh so you had some injuries situations
to deal with. The other thing though that that ends up,
it did give Seattle some room. They did get to
run four more plays or three more plays it should
be following that delay of game. And then the second
of the three plays is the past interference. So for

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a rule that was put in for big game situations
will for games that matter, and giving an opportunity to
look at a play, how in the world do you
not even look at the pass interference possibility on the
past to Jacob Hollister before the Seahawks were stopped at
the one yard line, Like that's That's the other issue

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that I think even of of just optics. There was
there was a play earlier this year when the Broncos
and Chargers were playing and the Broncos through a pass
down field and there was pass interference on the Chargers.
It was passing interference. It was called like that on
the field, But to not even have the booth take
a look at it to show the optics of like,
this is what the rule is here for, to make
sure that that passing interference occurred. That was the issue

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with last night. They didn't have to overturn the call,
but to not be able to even look at the
play is a reason that I think many of us
are saying today why even have this rule in the
in the rule books this year? I mean, it's it's
absurd if you're not even gonna look at a play
like that that had so much writing on it. Yeah,
I would. I would have taken fullid advantage of this rule.
Remember when I had my my my espresso in Canada,

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the one game I played in up there in the CFL,
I totally was shocked by this rule. I'm like, what
are they reviewing? Like they're trying to review and get
a passeng deference called I'm like really like yeah, And
so there were times where if it looked like passeng
deference and they reviewed it, there was a lot of
times where they award them that challenge. And so I'm like, man,

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this would this should be in the NFL just just
because applied correctly. If applied correctly, yeah, so I sure,
especially in crucial situations like it mattered, take advantage and
just find out. You know. So the point was made
because of what was on the line. If the Seahawks
win that game, the Saints end up getting a first
round by Green Bay gets home field advantage. Because the

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Niners win, the Saints have to play in wild Card Weekend.
And it was it was someone's point on Twitter. Where
for a rule that was put in two protect a
team like the Saints from what happened in the NFC
Championship game, it ends up turning around and burning the
Saints because they never even looked at it. Listen, if

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they didn't want to overturn it, that's fine, it's just
the optics and the whole reason of why you have it.
If you're not even going to use it, then why
even have the rule. To me, it's almost like last
night showed that instant replay on past interference in the
NFL is on its way out because of all the
calls that occurred this season in the National Football League

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that play on the last game of the season, that
had so many different remedies and possible outcomes, they didn't
even take a chance to look at it. An awful
look for the National Football league just wasn't good at
a highly upset about this right now, well as a fan,
and there is a silver lining, will I think that
it's better that they play Philadelphia than Minnesota. Better to

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go on the road and play Philadelphia than than be
at home and play Minnesota. I would rather play the
Eagles than have to play a Vikings team in the
first round of the NFL playoffs. We're gonna have to
play next weekend. Anyway that you you would rather face
the Vikings at home than the Eagles on the road.
I'd rather face Kirk Cousins in the face, Carson wentz M.

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I just feel like right now, Philadelphia, yes we can.
We can look at their roster and say everyone's banged up,
no one's healthy, Houst throwing a quarterback, you've got, you know,
eighth stringers are running backs. But right now everyone Carson
is elevating everybody's play like when it it has mattered
the past six sweeks and they have all delivered together

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and all have played together, you know. And I just
feel like what Minnesota, like they have injuries to on offense,
and we don't know, we don't know if all the
all those guys go down again, will Kirk Cousines being
able to take the load and make something happen. We
don't know it is a legitimate what Carson Wentz. We
know he can. We know he can get hot and

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just get it done. Different, It's different. Seattle Seahawks, by
the way, this year four and four at home, seven
and one on the road, which includes a win in
Philadelphia earlier this season. Just pointing it out there, Well,
well he's well, black men. I'm Dan Buyern for Doug
Gottlieb today here on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays

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at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Hey, you guys
don't know this, but speaking of hockey, I'm a very
good ice skater. Are you might have to test that out?
I kid you not. I I I would assume growing
up in d probably up hockey skates are just like

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regular skates anything, figure skates. Problem. Yeah, all of the
parks in my hometown end up being ice rinks, like
the diamonds that you've got for you know, Little League
and stuff like that. They just pour water. There's a
warming us right next to it. Boom, Time to skate
although I cannot skate. I cannot. I put this up

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on Twitter last night at the go into commercial of
the Seahawks forty Niners game. You know NBC likes to
take the nice city shots of the holiday shots. They
showed a like a skating park kind of and some
girl it was about to bite it as she was
skating like they they faded to black and she was
about to take a header into a fence because she

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wiped out skating last night. You could find that at
Dan Buyer on Fox. By the way, you could find
Will on Twitter at Will Blackman and at NFL wine Guy.
All Right, Jamis Winston, we know he's a member of
the thirty thirty club, thirty touchdown passes, thirty interceptions picked
off on his final throw yesterday that was returned for
a touchdown in overtime. There's there are now questions about,

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and there have been over the last couple of months,
what the Buccaneers are going to do with Jamis Winston. Heck,
it's been a question for maybe more than a year
of what the Buccaneers are going to do, and I'm
not sure this season lents us tons of information. I
thought that they should probably keep Jamis Winston considering this
stretch that he had later on in the season. But

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then you have the four interception game against the Texans,
then you have the interception last night against the Atlanta Falcons.
So now Bruce Arians today when asked if he could
win with another quarterback today at the press conference wrapping
up the Buccaneers season, here is Bruce arians answer with
another quarterback? Oh yeah, we can win with this. When

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we can win and we can definite went with another
one too, We're gonna have a defense. That is the
worst vote of confidence that a quarterback has received in
NFL history. If the NFL One NFL Network wanted to
do a list of the top ten worst votes of
confidence for a quarterback, that would be one of the finalists.

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Because if we can win with this one, we can
win with another one. Even the caveat of a defense, well, oh,
are you kidding me? What he did say, though his
other quote was he may not be able to see
the scoreboard. He's he's near sighted. You can see the
guy in front of that was that was always the
joke of any Testaverdi and Tampa that he was color

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blind and why he threw so many interceptions. That was
the that was the joke. And now you've got the
decision to make with Jamis Winston and Bruce Arians. And
I'm telling you that comment may shed a lot of
light on how Bruce Arians looked at the quarterback positions,
basically saying that we were in a lot of games
with this guy. We were close, and he's threw thirty

(28:05):
picks and we were still close in a lot of games.
So we we'd get another quarterback who doesn't throw thirty pigs,
we'll be fine. Yeah, that is not good for Jamis Winston,
will be back. I get tagged. Well, he could get
the franchise tag, you can get the transition tag. Let's
play it again. I can't believe that you actually think
that this is good. Let the quarterback. Oh yeah, we

(28:29):
can win with this one. We can win, and we
can definitely win with another one too, because we're gonna
have a defense. That is, he says we're gonna have
a defense. They have a Yeah, they have a defense.
But that also then says if we have a defense,
to your point, we can't have a quarterback throwing thirty
interceptions in a season. Now, I think that Jamis Winston

(28:50):
year one with them too, I know, but you have.
Unfortunately for them, they have a decision to make. I
felt that Jamis was gonna stay until I heard those
setence is. Now I am look who it came from, though, Well,
here's the guy who worked with Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck,
Carson Palmer got and and those quarterbacks have played at

(29:11):
the highest levels of their careers when he was coaching
those players. And if there's anyone close to be uncomfortable
to Big Ben, it would be Jamis. He just listen
year two. If Jamis can, if he threw seven team
picks next year, that's a hell of a season. Yes,
it's not to a game, it's one a game. Yeah,

(29:35):
that's a big deal. There are only four games this
season that Jameis Winston did not throw an interception. And
they can't be picked sixes. No, no, they can't. But
for a defensive player like yourself, at least you don't
have to go back on the field if they are
pick six something too. It was like teams to show
up lick in their chops, like, oh my gosh, I

(29:56):
might get a pick this week. I I just I.
It also is possibly Bruce Arians saying, Hey, if anybody,
you know, if there are quarterbacks out there that our
interested that could be available, He's going to turn him
into a winner. That's also confidence in what he has
and what he can do with quarterbacks. That just does

(30:16):
not I mean Bruce Arians, by the way, and I'm
gonna say it again, Bruce Arians last year openly campaigned
for the Cleveland Browns job. Wanted the Cleveland Browns job.
In fact said in radio interviews if there was one
job that I would come back for, it would be
the Cleveland Browns, and the Cleveland Browns hired Freddie Kitchens.

(30:38):
M how did that turn out? Not? Well, that was
kind of an open ended question. Well, you didn't have
to answer. He's Will black That I'm Dan Buyer. This
is the Doug gottlif Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Will says there's a future for Jamis Winston in Tampa.
I am not so sure. After those two sentences from
Bruce Arians. Find well on Twitter at NFL one Guy.

(30:58):
I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox. You can also find
him at Will Blackman, where he's tweeting coaching ideas throughout
the NFL. And he's got one for the Cleveland front
office inture, it's really gonna ditch the wine business and move.
This is gonna flourish, but I'm still gonna work in
front office one day. Coming up next, we'll tell you
what the biggest deal was from Week seventeen and the
NFL as we head into the pro postseason. That's next

(31:19):
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(31:42):
the hints today for Will Black. Yes, I'm like, wait
a minute, this is eighties way. There's a guy now
who has eight song? Is the weekend there? It is
the I'm Dan Buyer. We are sitting in for Doug
Gottlieb today. If you missed it before we get to
game time, I just want you to hear Bruce arians again.
And when I asked today, when I asked today if

(32:03):
he could win with another quarterback aside from Jamis Winston,
this was his answer. With another quarterback, Oh yeah, we
can win with this one. We can win and we
can definitely win with another one too, because we're gonna
have a defense. And I credit John Ramos for this
because he didn't use this exact situation, but it triggered
my mind to say this. That would be somebody saying

(32:24):
to me, can you do a show with someone other
than Will Blackman. I'd be like, oh, yeah, of course
I can. I've got Johnny Ramos here. Well, if I can,
you know, you do it with that one. I could
do it with anyone. So I don't you would You
don't take that as disrespect, not if you and if
you're like, man, we don't need Will at all, We

(32:47):
don't need him. What about if I referred to you
as that one? Like yeah, yeah, of course. Oh man,
uh you're reading you're you're reading way today me and
all of Twitter, everyone on social media. They think it's funny. Me.
Oh man, let's play a game. This is game time

(33:12):
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, you want to
break this tie? David Gascon, Yeah, you know what. I think.
I'm gonna have to agree with Will on this, of course.
But part of but part of the reason I part
of the reason I say that is I think it's
just more of of a confidence thing for Bruce arians
and hey, if I can win with him, I can
win with anybody, because they got a good defense. They

(33:33):
finished seven and nine with that guy throwing thirty picks
in the season. Do you guys know the record by
the way in the season for I N T S
non believe it or not? No, no, I has it.
No George Blanda has it. He threw forty two back
in nineteen sixty two. Was he wearing a blindfold? Man?

(33:54):
That's he's throwing them behind his bat? Al right, guys,
we will play a little game. See what we got?
Big deal, little deal, no deal. When Blanda was playing,
they made him wear the eye patch like the Raider logo,
which could have caused him to throw those forty two
interceptions to his right side behind his back. How about

(34:14):
this guy's le'll start off in the National Football League,
Baker Mayfield told a Heckler yesterday quote come down here
and say it to my face. End quote in yesterday's
defeat at Cincinnati. Big deal, little deal or no deal
at all. It's a massive deal. It's a big problem.
It's like, dude, you're about to run out to the
toddle to play a game. I feel like, especially for fans. Fans,

(34:38):
if you can't go to a game and not be
disrespectful in derogatory, then you need to grow up. But
it happens. But also professional players, if you can't just
go and play your job or do your job and
play a game and you're gonna hear stuff, if you
can't ignore that, then it's time I grow up. I can't.
Tom Brady has played for twenty years. I can't imagine
how many things he's ever he has heard. I would

(35:00):
love to. The fan in the video is like, you know,
we can't come down there. We're not allowed to come
down there. So that was kind of like the understanding
as well as the fan even called Baker on his
BS of like, obviously we're not going to go down there,
but I don't. Once again, I don't blame Baker. I
blame everybody else in that building. It because they gave
him the keys to say whatever he wants to say.
Oh guys about this. In the Mile Highest City, John

(35:21):
always says that Drew lock is quote their only option
end quote at quarterback next season, so he is the
starter in big deal, a little deal, or no deal
at all I'm gonna say this is a little deal
just for the simple fact of you think that's a
little deal, you think it's a big deal. The way
he said it is weird. That's he's our only option.
I look at it this so I look at it

(35:42):
in another way, is John Ola only knows how to
bring in veteran quarterbacks to be starters, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco,
case Keenum. It's it's what he's done. At least here
he's letting Drew lock. And you have to let Drew
lock considering how the Broncoes end of the season have
that opportunity. They're not gonna carry one quarterback. So that's
why I say it's a little deal. But he will

(36:03):
obviously be their starter. They want draft one in the
first round of the draft. He'll be their starter next
It's a little deal because in terms of they feel
like they have their guy now. So what is it?
It is something to take note, guys. Back to New York,
Adam Gates when asked him whether he wants Levy on
Bell back next season. There we go, But how about this,
he says, quote, he's under contract for three more years.

(36:26):
You can ask Joe Douglas tomorrow. End quote. That's that
would when the silver invotes of confidence today behind the
Bruce areas one For me, the Bruce arians still takes
the cake. But that does not sound like there's better
ways to answer that where that's a big deal, especially
with the piece of the New York Day of the

(36:46):
News put out about Adam Gaze and his thoughts on
and the burner account with his son's name. Man, he
could be he could have easily just gave a professional answer.
You know what, lebian Bell, we try to do some
things this year. He has a chance to have a
successful year next year. Like we're excited that he's on
the contract for three more years. Guys. Last one, Paul

(37:07):
George said he's shying away from contact right now since
he's a return from shoulder surgery. Big deal, little deal
or no deal at all for the Clippers Star, I
don't care that what's a no deal for Will? Will
will give you his top five power rankings in the
NBA of what teams will turn it on in the
month of January. That's coming up next segment. This is

(37:30):
game time on the Dog Gotlieb Show. Will, who is
your surprise in the NBA so far this season? Is
it the way that John Morantis played for Memphis? Brandon
is not my surprise. I expect him to take off. Okay,
there it is. You heard it from Will Blackman. Well,
black Man also knows who knows who the next dead
go to? The Browns is He'll tell you next. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb

(37:52):
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio ah app.
Cleveland Browns are looking for a new head coach, Will
Blackman as the answer, Levian Bell as the answer to
Adam Gaze's response to whether he wants Bell next season.
Did you just retweet that, Will Blackman? You did not,
but you did retweet yourself. You did seventeen hours ago

(38:16):
you sent out a tweet and then I just saw
it again and it says Will Blackman retweeted. So is
this something that is it for the in case you
missed it and the reason you retweeted yourself? Because it
has to do with Ron Rivera taking the Redskins job
or getting the Redskins job, as we believe it's going
to happen. Some would say that's uh, it's a bit

(38:40):
of a Twitter violation retweeting yourself the option is there,
there's no violation when the option is there. Interesting What
about no comment, no, no retweet with comment, you just
let it go straight retweet of your own tweet seventeen
hours ago? I wouldn't. I mean, if you want to
remind people. For example, I have a video out there
saying at my surprise team, I said this in like

(39:03):
I think April that my surprise team this year is
going to be the San Francisco for yours, and I
retweeted it boom. I can't remember what. I can't remember
what I put? Maybe how you like me now? Also too,
I picked the Ravens to you know, win a division,
and I said it's gonna be based on how Lamar
Jackson plays. And I also said that the Cleveland Browns

(39:24):
see it's gonna be good or bad based on the
culture of the team. What about retweeting bad stuff of yours?
Do you do that? I have? All right, Yeah, we're
gonna do that. Bottom of the hour. Not with you
with me? All right, We'll get your thoughts on you
see that guy? He he tried to like, just call
me out and thought it was like, oh, retweeting yourself,

(39:46):
you know. I just somebody asked me, he said how
do you Somebody specifically was like, how do you deal
with like the d C media in particular, And I
was like, you embrace everybody. Sebastian Shaw, he's a Marvel
superhero and he takes everyone's energy and makes it his own.
Is he the Golden Sorcerer? Is that in the Marvel comment?

(40:07):
I am Sebastian Shaw? Okay? Is what character is he?
Does he turn into something? Does he know? It's just
a guy? Say if you like through, say gambit through
like his cards at him. He would absorb those powers
and make it his own. You could and then light
you back up. You are speaking in French right now
to me. When John Ramas knows what we're talking about,
what is he is? Will correct on this. John's like

(40:30):
my translator when it comes Soldier. No, that's who. That's who.
Kevin Bacon played in in the first First Class? Okay,
got it? Yes? What about Sebastian Bach the former lead
singer of skid Row. By the way, there is no
there is no hate. I we just broke this down.

(40:52):
You try to call me out. You try to call
me out to someone embarrassed me. I don't get embarrassed.
I'm not embarrassing you will, like someone said, because then
you you slightly through in this. Some would call it
a Twitter violation. He I think it would be a
violation if it didn't exist, if you weren't allowed the option,
if you weren't allowed to I've I've I've only done

(41:12):
it once. I've only done it once. Sometimes. I actually
sometimes I cracked myself up on Twitter because of the
stuff that you say. Yeah, make stuff that make myself laugh,
So I'm like, oh, man, I think that's funny. So
I just put it back out there if you listen.
If I didn't want to see your tweets, I wouldn't
be following. I'm not a social No, you you follow
me because we're friends. You don't have to care. You

(41:34):
don't have to care about my tweets. I have some
friends that like, man, why don't you follow me? I'm like, dude,
We're like, we're real friends. We have my phone number, Like,
what do you Why do I need to follow you?
You could just call me and tell me. You could
call me and be like, damn, did you see what
I tweeted seventeen. I would never do that. You wouldn't
know Ron Rivera. We do expect to be the next
said coach of the Washington Reds. The the official word

(41:56):
not coming down, but reports saying he's going to d
C to finalize the deal. That's that's what we have, right.
That's was the latest you have it as it's gone down.
I've not seen anything that it's done deal, but that
it's in the process. It could be done by this afternoon,
That's what I've seen. But do you think it's a

(42:18):
done deal? I think so. You think that the riverboat
Ron is going to Washington, d C. The question now
is who do the Giants go for? And really who
do Cleveland Browns go for? Because they wasted no time
yesterday in dismissing Freddie Kitchens as their head coaches, they
probably knew that already. There's probably been so many things
that have gone on inside that building out we don't

(42:39):
know about. That was enough for John Dorsey to be like,
all right, we gotta go. Well, maybe this was a
situation like the Cardinals. Maybe Freddy Kitchens, who people a
lot of people, including myself, thought he was not qualified
was like, hey, let's hire this guy in the meantime
because there's somebody who we really want next year that's
not available. Do you think that that's the Freddy kid?

(43:00):
That could be the possibility. This is what I think
it have with the Freddy Kitchens because they fire him.
He was like, well he wasn't he wasn't ready. Freddie
Kitchens like that the reason correct, And there's six and ten.
They didn't get better, the team got worse. The quarterback
out worse quarterbacks is the reason that he got the job.
But if he succeeded, then it's like, whoa great job
by Dorsey. But he didn't, so what great job by Dorsey?

(43:23):
I'm saying like in terms of it was like there
was no downside to hiring Freddy Kitchens in terms of
if he didn't do well, then he wasn't ready. But
if he did do well, there was a great call
by Doors, then the credit goes to John Dorsey for
keeping him. I would disagree with that and saying if
Freddie Kitchens did do well, it was the reason why
Freddie Kitchens got the job. Because of how well the
Bronze played last year, he was getting praised for the

(43:46):
job that he did with Baker Mayfield in that offense,
and then we thought that the offense was going to
take another step, and instead it did take another step,
but took a step backwards. I mean the Baker the
interceptions this year, right, twenty two touchdowns, twenty one interceptions,
So that is a step back. Nick Chubb running the ball.

(44:07):
Here's the funny thing. Nick Chubb almost let the NFL
and rushing and we still didn't know the identity of
the Cleveland Browns. I think that I think there's something
wrong with that. It should be a team that runs
the ball and runs the ball and runs something wrong.
It's like you have Cream Hunt, you got Nick Chubb,
you got you know, drivers, Lanjury and Allodell Beckham, like
figure that out. I'm just saying in general, like figure

(44:33):
it out. Yeah, and and I agree with that. It's
actually why I brought up Odell Beckham point last hour
and saying maybe it's one of the reasons why Dave
Gettlman kept his job because they couldn't figure out a
way how to make it work in Cleveland. I mean,
that team is better when Nick Chubb is the bell
cow of that offensive. Him and Kareem Hunt. Yeah, that's

(44:54):
how they beat Baltimore and that should be what they
are doing going forward. So whoever comes in, that should
be the main thing. You don't need two spectacular receivers
in Jarvis Landry in Odell Beckham Jr. Who have talent
off the charts. When the ball should be going through

(45:15):
the running game or it should be handled through the
running game. The play action game should be lovely. Yeah,
it should be, but everything should be started with the
with the running game. And that didn't happen with the Browns.
And yesterday's lost did not signify the end of Freddie
Kitchens to your point, because the decisue was made immediately.
Although losing to the Bengals maybe grounds enough for a firing,

(45:37):
it's the three losses to end this season didn't seem
like the players rallied around Freddie Kitchens when he caught
any sort of heat, when there were questions, and seemed
like the team was motivated enough. And I think all
of that ended up spelling doom for Freddy Kitchens as well. Yeah,
and and my example would be Okay, so someone who
was on the hot seat, dan Quinn and Crowley was

(45:58):
on the hot seat early to share um and they
were in seven. Well yeah, and but what happened was
Julio Jones stepped up and had a meeting with the
team and said, like, we gotta fight for this dude,
like this, we love this coach, like we want to
take he's taking care of us, like he's doing all
these things for us. Like let's let's start competing and
fight for this guy. That's no, that's on record, and right,

(46:21):
you didn't see that in Cleveland in terms of fighting
for a coach. They just fought with fans from Cincinnati.
It's a lot easier because the fans weren't allowed to
access who fits in Cleveland. Then you did put this
out on Twitter. You have not retweeted yourself with this answer,
but it's true. Get it to a new audience. Listen.

(46:41):
I'm I'm all about new audiences as well. It's different
when you're on the West coast because everyone is asleep
when you put something out at like nine o'clock at night. Yeah,
before I get your answer on who the bronze head coaches,
have you ever held onto a tweet knowing that more
people would be up on the East coast? Yeah, yeah,
of course, I've done that too, and then it failed miserably.
Nobody liked to tweet on any coast whatsoever. Yeah, you know,

(47:04):
you just you want to do it to a bigger audience.
Who do you think should be the Brown, said coach.
I like Eric the enemy, and I feel like I
like his demeanor, I like his his energy. I feel
like he can be that the the line of the
week has been leader of men. I feel like he
can be the type where he's leader of men. He
understands the ring game, he understands offense, being what any

(47:29):
Reid and I. And also he has a history of
what Dorsey I believe. I think he was there when
Dorsey was in Kansas City to it wasn't he in Minnesota?
I can't. I can't remember um, but I think he
would be a great fit there. The recommendations would come
down if there was no cross pollination anyway, because yeah,
this guy vouches for him, Fandy Reid's gonna vouch for him,
then yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's gonna work out.

(47:50):
I don't think it would be interesting because and to
your points about the running game, that to your points
about a player that the players can respect and that
would set them in line and set them and I
think he would. I think he would check Baker, like, dude,
sit down, say we want to head court. Now, Baker's
not talking to that. It was probably one of the

(48:11):
biggest problems that Baker Mayfield had this season was that
Freddie Kitchens got the job because of how well he played.
That almost could have been something that empowered Baker as well,
because we're like, hey, look at what he did with Baker.
We can't let go of this guy. That empowers the
quarterback too to maybe feel like he's more important than
then he maybe is. I mean I'm saying that, not

(48:32):
saying that he's not important as the quarterback of the team.
What I'm saying maybe Baker got a little bit bigger head.
Maybe there was those sort of things going on. Yeah,
I feel like Dorsey did see probably saw a relationship. Okay,
he wants to see how this goes. It wasn't like
we have our guy, this is it. It was more so,
let's see how this goes because they had some kind
of report the year before. Let's see what happens and

(48:54):
if if it exceeds our expectations and being great. But
if it didn't, then cool. There's a lot of guys
on the market that we've been looking at. Oh year.
Should be known that the Brown's head coaching candidates right now,
they've requested to interview Josh McDaniels, Greg Roman, and Robert
Sala Niners defensive coordinator Salo Roman, you know and runs
the Ravens offense, and obviously we know Josh McDaniels, the

(49:15):
offensive coordinator or the Patriots. They are also expected to
interview Mike McCarthy, according to Mary kay Cabot, and Vikings
offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski, the odds on favorite to be
the next Brownze head coach. According to odds makers. You
ready for this? Do you know who it is? Nope?
Mike McCarthy plus three hundred right now, he is the

(49:37):
favorite over Josh McDaniels at plus four fifty. Urban Meyer
comes in at plus eight hundred. Matt Rule a longshot.
I think Matt Rules going to the Giants. That's just
my that's my gut. I think. Do you think because
of the history what Dorsey, Yeah, I Dorsey was that
he was in Green Bay when I got drafted in
the same year. Um, I think it's also his resume

(50:00):
of being a super Bowl winning coach, the tenure, the
quarterbacks that he coached. I think all of that comes
into play when it comes to Mike McCarthy. I think
that there's there's instant credibility and respect and accountability. What
you think that Eric bi enemy could also bring, But
I think with McCarthy it's there on the resume. It's

(50:21):
this is what I've done. I'm a super Bowl winning coach.
This is how we're going to do it. I think
that I think it's very It's a very easy higher
if he comes in because of his credentials, so and
that may be the Browns looking for the easy way out.
Unfortunately right now, maybe that's all they can afford to do.
He's Will black Man. I'm Dan Buyer. They sees the

(50:42):
Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Find Will
on Twitter at Will Blackman and at NFL Wine Guy
if you want to check out the wine thing that
he's doing, which is very very interesting. I'm at Dan
Buyer on Fox. Do you retweet NFL Wine Guy, does
he retweet Will Blackman or do you keep those completely separate? Well,
that's kind of how it starts it. That's how became separate,
because I would talk about wine on my well black butter,

(51:04):
nobody cared was born. Oh there, there, there it is.
I've had Dan Buyer on Fox. Coming up next, the
New York Giants fire their head coach but kept their
general manager. But was that the best move? We'll ask
a former Giant next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.

(51:27):
Oh yeah, all right, he's Will black Man. I'm Dan
Buyer having some fun here on New Year's eveve I
don't oh you should? It's I Want Your Sex by
George Michael. That's to say that just you just knew that,
Oh you should? You just knew that as soon as

(51:50):
as soon as the beat dropped. The Giants are looking
for a new head coach, but they are keeping their
general manager. With the NFL, keep instant replay all those
topics and so much more. Are we dive in right
now here on the Doug Gottlieb Show with eight year
NFL veteran. He's the host of the Jeff Schwartz is
Smarter Than You Podcast? Jeff Schwartz joins us year on
Fox Sports Radio. Hey Jeff Gold to talk to you.

(52:11):
Happy New year. How are you same to you guys?
Glad to beat here. Always lots of NFL news the
Monday after the season's over. Oh man, it is flying everywhere.
I do want to start with with your former team,
Will's former team as well, the New York Giants. Were
you surprised at all that Shermer goes and Gettleman stays, well,

(52:34):
I know I'm not surprised, I guess the best way
to put it. We often see that these general managers
often have better relationships with the owners than you know,
than the coaches do, and they often make it through
a lot of these firings, right. And we've seen it
in many places now where gjonal managers are allowed to
hire a second and third coach, which to me is

(52:55):
just not a great working environment. And maybe there's a
reason why they're hiring the second and third coach because
they don't know how to work with the coach who
they hire. And I think it's the problem in New York.
And the job is very um, it's very exciting for
a kid like maybe in Matt Rule but dead Gentleman's there,
and Dad Gentleman Um has not really proven, in my opinion, uh,

(53:17):
to be worthy of keeping his job. And this is
his talent. The guys he put on the field, Sherman
Dan coach him terribly well. But look, when you draft
a running back second overall, and we know that the
value in that position is not quite there at number two,
you made a bad trade this year for for Leonard Williams. Um.
You know, I think a lot of people have felt

(53:37):
that Daniel Jones was a reach, and so I just
I don't see how he keeps his job. But we
know this is kind of the way the NFL business works.
Jeff will Black and what's up, buddy? How you doing?
I'm fantastic man Um. I feel like, what what Getleman?
I don't think you were there when he was. I
think he was in Caroline at the time. But Dave Guttleman,
he's this is Youtubo Dan. He's New York. GI's family,

(53:59):
He's New York John family. Like he pretty much started
his career there, did a lot there, and then it
was like, hey, go to Carolina do you think there?
And come back? We got your jobs. So in terms
of like him being gone, I wasn't. I didn't did
not see that at all. That's the problem. But but
that's the problem, Will, is that it is the teams
that do. The teams that that have this emotional attachment

(54:21):
two players and coaches are the ones that always struggle.
This is what New England has done great for so long.
If they have no emotional attachments. When you're done, you're
out of there. And the Giants I get I agree that,
I know that's why he's there. But like at some
point you stepped back and tell with this problem to
Jerry Jones being so involved, they realized that you're the
problem ownership, Like you have to change the way did

(54:44):
you conduct your your business to be better on the
football field. So does this going This is going to
like the theory of you know, all these coaches keep
hiring their homeboys, that's where they're not winning. They did
actually go and hire good coaches. I think that's where
you're kind of alluding to what this whole gentleman thing too. Yes,
And I also think that because when you're so close
to the ownership, you're gonna you're gonna listen to them

(55:06):
about personnel moves and honestly, no owners should be involved
the personnel who was other than you know, vetting a
quarterback that you're gonna draft. I mean the ownership have
to be involved in I mean signing off on that decision, right,
but as far as the rest of it, you should
just never been opinion and it's ownership. I know that
that one of the one of the owners is you know,

(55:28):
he's on the personnel side. I think he still is.
I get all that. You know, that's the way I
start feel like it doesn't in the end, I think
we're being proven that it's not really working. So if
you bring a new coach and that rule, let's say,
and he wants to change things up, well, Gentleman's kind
of be holding to the ownership as being kind of
a family, you know family, you know family giant guy.
Uh and I just don't think that that really recent

(55:50):
launch success what did that rule? Wants to do something
that he feels best for his team, but the ownership
doesn't agree with. I mean, normally you're just going to
do that as a coach and you tell the ownership
that's trust you. But with Gettleman there that he's never
gonna want to do that. Jeff Schwartz joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. He's Will black Man. I'm Dan
Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today. So you have
more of a of an issue with it just being

(56:12):
Dave Gettleman the guy that stays. Is that? Is that correct?
Because I'm guessing and I don't want to put words
in your mouth, but shouldn't the general manager more than just,
you know, two or so years on the job to
see is playing through? It seems like there's more of
a problem you have with Gettleman being the guy. Well,
I mean I think that they should. I mean, but

(56:32):
I'd argue that coaches, as she more than two years too.
You're gonna fire a coach after two years, And what's
the difference to being a general manager, right, I mean,
you're you're given the players. Um. The one thing that
that I that I struggle with with the coach and
GM dynamic is that we often see that coaches assume
the general manager's front office personnel do not draft and

(56:56):
signed players based on the talents they have to fit
the scheme they're going into. And we've seen that that
the good general managers do that very well. I'm not
sure the gentleman is that guy. I'm not sure gentleman
is doing the best of bringing players that would fit
Pat Shermer system or fit in that rule system, or
I think that. I think that's as drawback to going

(57:19):
to San Francisco. We've seen where you know, San Francisco
has done a great job of getting players that fit
Kyle Shanahan's offense and the defense they want to run,
and that partnership has led always do a lot of success.
I don't think they have that partnership in New York,
and it's gonna lead to more failure unless they decided
to change the way things are done there. And and
that's the biggest thing you said as the partnership, because

(57:40):
for a coach, for a coach to get fired after
two years, it's almost like they already had somebody else
in mind. I mentioned earlier on the show, that's what
happened to Arizona, was Steve Wokes. That's kind of what
happened in Cleveland, is that the partnership is not there.
So I agree with you in that regard. So you know,
when because you see that in San franc with Lynch
in Um Shanahan. They are super tight in terms of
what they're trying to do. Yeah, I think it's important

(58:03):
that that you had that vision. And look, I didn't
really realize it until the end of my career about
the partnership between the front office. I was, you know,
I stunned in New York and you know now looking
back on my time that I did not fit at
all what we wanted to do on offense. We were
a shotgun offense. We were a two point stance. I'm
six seven, three forty. I don't need to be in
a two point stands all game. I want to be down.

(58:25):
I want to run block. I kept past protect fine,
but like I didn't fit what we wanted to do
on offense. And looking back on like my fredency and
kind of now that I'm out of the game and
can kind of talk to people see how things are
figuring out and realize, like I'm a prime example of
a situation where they did not match up what they
needed to run me or they needed to for the offense.

(58:47):
And I'm obviously glad it was the Giants tim me.
I enjoyed it being there, But like I look back
on my career and say, look, I was not fit
for this offense. Why would they try to pursue me
so much when they could have gone someone else who
fit the offense better. I mean, just obviously I'm, like
I said, I'm glad I was there, but like I'm
a great example of how that that synergy between front
office and and coaching side doesn't often work. Make it work,

(59:11):
all right, I want to hear this. Make it work? No, no,
of course I made it work. But my my point
it's at the general point of how about like, how
about how like you you? I don't think front office
has talked to coaches enough about how a system matters
to a certain player, and I think that's a big
problem that the Giants having that other But the reason

(59:33):
why I'm so passionate about this, we're seeing on other
teams are now figuring this out. I think this is
along going to happen the NFL for a long time
where the general managers did did his job, coach did
his job, and now we're seeing it work real. Buffalo
is a great example. Buffalo Sean McDermott hired Brandon Dean.
They are in lockstep with the guys. They bring in
the guys that they used and the system they have.

(59:54):
But see with Santancisco right now, we've seen in New
Orleans forever exactly. I mean, they never rebuild. They can
keep resetting right and and that thing is like and
I feel like the Giants are not set up right
now to do that. And that's why it's disappointed. I
think that Gettleman kept his job. Jeff, the same teams
keep winning. Jeff Schwarts joining us here on Fox Sports

(01:00:16):
right in the dug Otlip Show. He's Will Blackman. I'm
Dan Buyer. I want to go to Seattle. From last
night's game. We talked about a lot of scenarios that
ended up at the end, the non review of the
past interference, the Seahawks messing up there, getting the delay
of game. What stands out to you last night of
what was the biggest I guess faux paw of the
game that cost the Seahawks a possible victory. Well, it's

(01:00:39):
the same thing that that kind of has been a
problem with Seattle for a long time now. It's it's
in the game situation and the way Pete Carroll manages games.
I mean, you know the balls has the one yard
line spike is fine, go ahead and spike, and I
was just told it wasn't. It's a just put the
ball over the pile, like you were right there to
just jump over. Put over in the game right there

(01:01:00):
the pride. I know, not as we're sort of ready
for that, but still like de spiked the ball and
then it felt like they were trying to get Marshawn
Lynch another touchdown. You're going heavy personnel, they delay, he said.
Del game to me was the biggest farm and down
the p I stuff looked. I thought the rule and
the review system would work out much better than it did.

(01:01:21):
I realized about a month in the season that it's
not gonna be we thought it's gonna be. I think
this goes away next year. Um. I thought there was
no way the NFL was gonna review that. They were
not gonna get in that message. Rather people talk about
this and talk about, you know, an overcall situation. UM,
so no surprise they didn't review that. I think this

(01:01:41):
rule is going away. I think it's probably better if
it goes away. It's really hard to apply and they've
obviously shown disdain for trying to use it in these situations. Um.
It was an overreaction from one terrible incident last year
in the playoffs, and I'm kind of glad they didn't
go that direction. There are other opportunities for see for
Seattle during the game. But look, it was it was

(01:02:03):
a great game in this season. It was physical, it
was emotional. I think both coaches have did a great
job until the end. They're both He's were prepared to
play ribbalry game. I thought it was a great representation
for the NFL. He's Jeff Schwartz. Find him on Twitter
at Jeff Schwartz g e O F F. Schwartz listened

(01:02:24):
to the Jeff Schwartz is Smarter than You podcast, And
I want to end with this. You heard Bruce arians
comments today about Jamis Winston. Hey, okay, okay, okay. Is
that the biggest disrespect or is there anything good Jamis
Winston can find in those quotes? Oh nothing whatsoever? Thank you?
Um what? And I and I think and I think

(01:02:46):
that I think they keep Jamis Winston by the way.
I think that they're keeping him. Look, if this this
year was way out of line with his turnovers, and
he has a lot of them, but he look at
his career numbers. If he reduces his turnovers from thirty
interceptions to like exactly half. He's a really good quarterback.
And like, I didn't think you can't find someone they

(01:03:07):
can give you that production in the draft or I
think they keep him. I thought he was there for
sure until I heard, yeah, I can win with any
guy like say, he didn't say, he said we haven't. Oh,
here you will, and I disagree on Listen, if he
can cut it down to half, you know who he is.
He's Dan Marino. Wow, that's that's that's heavy stuff. I

(01:03:34):
he's one of the top ten greatest quarterbacks of all time. Listen,
I mean seventeen picks, fifteen picks, fifteen picks, seventeen sixteen. Hey,
I'm just saying, Jeff, we'll let the Red Box Bowl
on Fox cal in Illinois going at it. Hey, I'm
sure it's gonna be wonderful. Hey, Happy New Year, and
uh yeah, we'll talk to you. Find him on Twitter

(01:03:59):
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(01:04:22):
s R to listen live. So the question I want
to ask you, Mr. They will they think the official
hiring will be Tuesday? Yes, yeah, there's nothing official from
the Redskins just yet. But go ahead the question when
will Russell Wilson take it upon himself to make a
play and avoid the head coaches or at least the
coaching staff because that that situation at the one yard line.

(01:04:46):
I'm thinking Manning or Brady would say, screw you guys
in the sidelines that either call my own play or
I'm down at my own number. They didn't have goal
line personnel in there, but why do you need it? Well,
because you're at a one yard line. So that that
was the that's they had five wide receivers at the time.
I understand that, So you don't need goal line package

(01:05:07):
to call a quarterback sneak. They should have that. It's
that that's fair. They should have though, uh been ready
on the sidelines. I I don't I don't know. How
that happened. Again, I think if you run Marshawn Lynch
and he's ready and he gets stopped, it may be
the only play that you have. It's a great story
to think Marshawn Lynch scores in the final play of
the regular season and wins it for the Seahawks. That's

(01:05:28):
a great story. But realistically they then had three chances
to get in, should have maybe had more because of
the past interference, and still ended up an inch short
of the goal line. Don't forget Marshall Lynch did get
stopped earlier in that ball game on a third day
because he scored. Well. That was one of the themes

(01:05:49):
though with Super Bowl forty nine, everybody said, you gotta
do his hand off the Marshawn Lynch. It wasn't as successful. No,
trust me, we aren't. No, we aren't. I don't want
to relive that. I have no business. I just was
just bringing up the point though, we don't have to
go back and break down and play from five years ago.
But by the way, that was the lowest hanging fruit.

(01:06:12):
On Twitter last night, Oh my goodness, I posted my
picks from the NFL preseason will on Twitter. You can
see him right now. And I'm curious on your thoughts
on some of these picks that I may have made
on what transpired in the NFL regular season. Well, this
is basically the segment. This is this is the segment

(01:06:36):
that of looking at the regular season. I will say
I did have New England winning the a f C East.
Unfortunately I picked the Jets second that that did not
work out as well. Homework, Well, well, how am I
supposed to do my homework when I'm predicting. I mean
I had Buffalo, I mean I had Buffalo. Third, I

(01:06:56):
did pick Baltimore second, I just didn't have them first
of Pittsburgh, uh, Jacksonville. I had winning the NFC South
that did not happen, and the Chargers being the top
seed in the a f C winning the West. That
did not pan out. But I will say I did
pick Philadelphia winning the NFC East will which was fair

(01:07:18):
because when they when if they were full strength like
of course, because what they did to Washington week one
with DeShawn Jackson. That's valid. What what what's what is
the worst pick of mine? Do you think? Is it
Adam Gaze Coach of the Year? Is it Big Ben
for my NFL m v P. Is it picking the
Packers last in the NFC North, is it Atlanta winning

(01:07:40):
the NFC South? It's Adam g Yeah, and hey they
went seven and nine. That's that's when I've realized the
Jets went seven and nine and not four and twelve.
I was, I was like, hey, you know, Philly repeating
I had years. Yeah, yes, yep, getting some getting some

(01:08:05):
nice response on Twitter. The Ben Roethlisberger who thought that
he was going to have his elbow blowout in week two, Right,
I couldn't have couldn't have seen that one coming. Don't
where there's a whole lot of bad my wild card weekend.
This weekend had Dallas facing Atlanta and the Bears taking
on this. You're bad as you had Tennessee finishing last. Yeah,
Tennessee finishing last. That that's a different way of looking

(01:08:28):
at it. But but you did. You did not You
had Mariota as your starting quarterback then, so you did
not know. And that's what predictions are all about. That's
that's what we do here. Hey, Adam Gates was a shot,
you know, took a chance. Thought maybe you you mean, God,
if Sam Donald doesn't have mono you dropped the basketball
from an airplane and try to land, and that's dude perfect.

(01:08:50):
That would be the next one. Watch this basketball, Dan
perfect and Dan perfect and imperfect. He's Will Blackman. I'm
Dan Buyer. Will wasn't too impressed with my pick. I thought,
not too those you're straight, you know, it's just you
just had to like bold to Cole Ryant to the
NFL network. Just told me I got two division winners, right,

(01:09:13):
two and six? Okay, so once again your defense Jacksonville,
they were I guess a quarterback away if you will, Yeah,
then they were. They were a gardner minsh. He went
out Week one. Oh so close, so close, yet so
far away. Here's the problem when you try to pick
something crazy and it doesn't happen, it's like two fold.
It's like when you pick the n C double a tournament,

(01:09:35):
you pick one upset, that upset doesn't happen. That means
one of your chalk that you picked is also going
to be wrong because that's where the upset is. Get
Will on Twitter at Will Blackman, I met Dan Buyer
on Fox. One of the biggest upsets in the NFL
in the last thirty years happened yesterday. We'll dive into
that next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays

(01:09:58):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the Heart Radio app. He's well black, but
I'm Dan Buyer. We are in for Doug today here
on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, Colonel Dan tweets into my
picks l O L. That's pretty crappy actually for my
s season predictions. Good buddy, Stephen h Town with the

(01:10:18):
old Oofu's hey you win someone, you lose some. Well,
we were just talking about my division winners that I
had and I got two out of the eight, and
one of them was New England. That's like given in
a math problem, right, Like the given was there, but hey,
I'm gonna take credit for it. So technically it's kind
of like I went one for seven. You know what

(01:10:39):
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try again. You know what
we usually do it this time, Well, we take something
from Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports One that was
thought provoking, that was interesting, that was entertaining, and we
get a chance to hear it again and respond to it.
It's a segment we like to call and say Fox

(01:11:01):
Sports One first things First, you know of it? Right?
Nick Wright is the host of that show. It weighed
in on the Patriots upset loss to the Miami Dolphins
in Week seventeen. I was gobsmacked, shocked. I don't know
that there have been five people more pessimistic about the

(01:11:22):
Patriots in twenty nineteen than me, And I was stupefied
that they lost this game this way. Forget the Patriots
part of it. There's seventeen point favorites. That's the biggest
upset in the NFL in twenty years, not in Week seventeen,
not in whole league six games a year, twenty years,
we're talking about over five thousand games played. The biggest

(01:11:45):
upset in twenty years was yesterday in New England. What
was on the line the buy. But it's not just
that they lost this game in this context, but the
way in which they lost New England. Since Brady has
taken over at quarterback, one hundred and thirty six times
they've had a four point or greater lead in the
fourth quarter at home. They were one hundred and thirty

(01:12:09):
five and one prior to yesterday. The one loss was
the opening week game to Kansas City a few years ago,
and they lost to Ryan Fitzpatrick after Brady actually did
driving down the field, to his credit, they had a
good final drive of the game, or what could have
been the final drive of the game. And then you
don't just let Miami drive the field, Cantie, it's thirteen

(01:12:30):
plays seventy five yards. Surgically, it's not one big busting
coverage Davante Parker goes for sixty five yards. No, they
had one play in the whole drive greater than ten yards.
And now the Patriots have a very live Titans team.
Then if they get through that game, they are in
Kansas City rather than the other way around, and and

(01:12:50):
all likelihood a little more banged up than they are
now after a playoff game. So I am, I cannot
believe they lost this game the way they lost it,
into whom they lost it with it was on the line.
Were you as shocked as Nick Wright was on the
outcome of yesterday's game? No, all right? And the reasons
because I think that there's there there's a lot to it.

(01:13:12):
First of all division opponents. Second of all Brian Flores
from the Bill Belichick Tree. I mean, oh, was he
all right, so you've got that connection there. You also
have a Dolphins team that is just trying to end
the year. It seems like things have turned up. Veteran
quarterback in Ryan Fitzpatrick, I wasn't as surprised that Miami

(01:13:35):
was competitive. I was surprised that they won the football
game in the fashion that Nick Wright explained. But I
think this is kind of what we've come to expect
from New England and even Miami. I I know they
let the Bengals back in the game, and they were
dominating that game for a while. Think Miami was a
better team. I wasn't as surprised that Miami won the game,

(01:13:56):
was just more of how they did it, as he said,
Ryan Fitzpatrick, picking apart at Patriots defense at the end
of the game. That's what surprised me about it. Listen
before the game with the Patriots, I'm sure Coach Belichick
went to the team, was like, look, guys, we know
the Dolphins are gonna come in here and play really
really hard and compete. You said, we're going to compete too,

(01:14:20):
but nobody get hurt. Please, Okay, no, nobody get hurt.
You know, let's let's compete, and you know, when't try
to win this game, but let's let's try to get
let's try to get healthy for next week. Nobody come
out of this game hurt. Please do you think that
they'd rather but that I mean, they'd still play the
same amount of games. And I know that obviously playoff
games mean more. But if you win on Sunday, that

(01:14:43):
means you don't have to play the next week, which
now they have to play next week. So you could
have won the game and then gotten to buy Yeah,
that like this is this was what was surprising to me,
as they said, it was what we viewed as the strength,
oh of the Patriots team being their defense to see

(01:15:04):
Ryan Fitzpatrick picked them apart, as Nick Wright said, to
see DeVante Parker excel the way that he has for
them to not really have a quote unquote answer for him.
It wasn't like the Dolphins ran the ball great this game.
They really they didn't have a really a running game
at all. It was basically done with the arms and
legs of Ryan Fitzpatrick. And yeah, that that was that

(01:15:24):
was not good. At the end of the game though,
when he brought up the stat of this is a
team when leading by four points or more, and there
one thirty five and one so and only one other
times this happened in one hundred and thirty six appearances.
To see them not be able to get this stop,
that was really shocking. And if I'm a Patriots fan,
I'm disheartening more by the defense. You know what Tom

(01:15:45):
Brady is, you really do. There's there's not gonna be
a switch turned on. You're hoping that your defense can
stop the opposing team, and they weren't able to do
it yesterday. And that's if I'm a Patriots fan, That's
what bothers me heading in a wild card weekend. You know,
I'm not concerned it all because here, here's the hardest
thing to do. And this is the most like I

(01:16:06):
guess people are annoyed, the most unappreciated things. It's too
it's to be good that longs, to be that good,
that long. Every single week, ever since they won that
Super Bowl, um Tom Brady's first one, they've been taking
everyone's best shot every single week, Like every week a
team measure up. Okay, can we beat the Pats? This

(01:16:27):
is our measurement every single week. It's hard to be
good that long. So to have all this adversity, to
have none of these weapons, to have all these things
going on, and you know, you go twelve and four
and you gotta play the first week in the playoffs
are big deal. I'm not I'm not concerned because it's
it's difficult, but they're they're twelve and four and after

(01:16:48):
that game, by the way, Dolphins fired their offensive coordinates.
Saw that he's well black man, I'm Dan buyer. It
could be the end of not one, but two careers
for potential Hall of Fame quarterbacks. We'll talk about it
next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show week days

(01:17:09):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. We should find
out soon the status of one Jason Garrett as the
head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A report from Jane
Slider of the NFL Network says that Garrett right now
is meeting with the Joneses, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones,

(01:17:30):
and after that meeting, we should find out if Jason
Garrett will remain the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Were reports earlier today that Garrett, who met with his
players had a meeting that sounded more like a going
away party than an end of year get together. We'll
find out more about Jason garrett status sometime in the
near future. Now, if we do hear about Jason garrett

(01:17:50):
statis in the next sixty minutes, will there are a
variety of ways that we can go with announcing the news. Well,
we'll have news if we have it in the next
sixty minutes. David Gascon will jump in with breaking news
and tell us if Jason Garrett is staying or going. However,
to spice up our breaking news, we're gonna leave this
to you. What would you like to hear if Jason

(01:18:12):
Garrett is dismissed? Okay, We're gonna give you some options.
Let's go with option number one. Okay, would you like
to hear that? You think that is that in the
running like we were to say bye bye, that's maybe
Garrett saying bye to the secretary at the front desk. Alright,
let's see the next one that we can And that's

(01:18:36):
her response, All right, where's another one, baby? What do
you think is that? What you would like to hear
if Jason Garrett is dismissed? I don't know, because doesn't
he also say I'll be back He does, Yeah, and
we may have to get that one. If he returns,
that would be that would be quite a twist. By
the way, we've only planned in this production meeting Jason

(01:18:59):
Garrett not return. So that's that's all the options that
we have right now. We also have this that's my
personal favorite that if if that happens, that's my personal favorite.
It wouldn't be like that though they a history, it's
not it will be disrespectful like that hit the Road Jack.

(01:19:22):
What about this one? In sync? Like they actually had
a party. That would be great. Yeah, like a goodbye party.
That would be great. If Jerry and Stephen Jones did
the insynct dance routine to Bye Bye Bye in firing,

(01:19:45):
it will be like six knee replacements being handed out.
If that what Bruce Allen was let go today? How
would that one? Son? There's just anyone which the Redskins
president and done that might that might be hit the
Road Jack, Yeah, that's hit the Bruce. Yeah, I think
I actually I like the whole thing no more, no,

(01:20:06):
because it's like there's there's no chance that he's ever coming. Well,
there's a video of them walking by each other, like
Dan Snyder enter the stadium with his his entourage and
Bruce walked right past him like full speed, opposite direction.
Didn't look at each other at all. M hmm. That
is hit the road, Jack, it is come back, no

(01:20:29):
mo no listen. People can see what they want. You know,
they may like Dan Snyder or I heard the majority,
don't I want him to do this and that in
the third, but I know he's trying to win and
he's cleaning house. Is he trying to win now? Like legit,
like his soul, he's pretty much looking at everything, you know,

(01:20:52):
and he I guess he has a team of adviruses.
They're like, look, this guy has been a problem. This
is a problem. He's trusting his advisors and at some
point because there is no fan base and and I'm sorry,
in sports right now, in the NFL, there's no miserable,
more miserable fan base maybe outside of Cleveland and the

(01:21:13):
Washington Redskins, Like Cleveland's never had it. The problem with
the Redskins is that they did have it once and
they don't have it anymore. Fan base like usually they're
capital fans or you know, they've had the national fans
like this. It has eased their pain, so they have
something to ease their pain. Lebron left, Lebron came back,

(01:21:39):
then left. Here's the problem with Washington is, right when
you think that they have something good like three, it's
then gone and you think that you have Kirk Cousins
that could be something good. But then he leaves and
things haven't gotten better. I mean, he did take you
to a wild card game, did did win a division

(01:22:02):
for you? Granted they lost to Green Bay in the playoffs,
but right when you think that maybe you have something,
it gets taken away. I hear you on that, you know.
I almost feel like Dan Snider probably watched Temper's interview
Caroliner's owner when he said, Okay, I did my part
business wise for the organization, Now is my time to

(01:22:24):
do something on the football side. And he was like,
you know what, me too. I think listen, firing Bruce
Allen is a big deal. Yeah, So so to take
that step shows at least that something has changed. Now.
I follow, you know, people who cover the Redskins cover
that sort of area on Twitter Redskins fans and it's

(01:22:47):
just one like it's it's been one message. So the
step for Bruce Allen to be out is a pretty
big deal in my mind. To go along with what
you're saying is okay, Now they're maybe going to try something.
What they're going to do with the front office, What
Ron Rivera, who's likely to be their head coach, will
bring in, I don't know. I don't know if Dwayne
Haskins is the answer. I'm not sure about that. But

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at least they took a step in getting rid of
what many perceived was the problem. And sometimes, well it
may not be fair, but that's what you have to do,
because perception is reality. And when fans become disheartened, when
they just become, you know, whatever, they're they're not affected emotionally,

(01:23:30):
I'm totally blanking on the word right now, apathetic. When
they become when there's apathy towards the team, it's the
worst thing you can have, and I think that's starting
to set in with the Redskins. So at least this
move with Bruce Allen leaving, I do think adds a
little juice at least to the fan base to make
them believe that something is different, something different is on
the way. He's were black Men. I'm Dan Buyer. There's

(01:23:53):
also a change in New York in more than one place.
The Giants are letting go of Pat Shermer's their head coach.
He is out after two seasons, but general manager Dave
Gettleman stays. Another Giant, longtime Giant, likely on his way
out as well. That is Eli Manning, who spoke to
reporters today after the Giants wrapped up their season yesterday

(01:24:14):
with the loss of the Philadelphia Eagles. Eli talking about
his future. I know you didn't enjoy being he didn't
enjoy being a backup. But if the Giants wanted you
to come back in that role, would you consider it? Um?
I doubt it. I doubt it. So, you know, uh,
backing up it's not not real fun. That from Eli
Manning today. Not interested in a backup role. Probably not

(01:24:34):
just in in a backup role anywhere. I don't know
where else you would start in the National Football League.
All of that put together will makes me believe that
this is the this is the end of the road
for Relay Manning in the NFL. Uh. Yeah, because I
can't really I look around the NFL. I don't really
see a situation where he will come in and be
a starter. Yeah, I don't even think he wants and

(01:24:56):
by the way, I don't think he should have to.
But even the O was somewhere to try to compete,
like there was some talk about maybe I saw a
report today on Twitter that if there was a place,
maybe the Colts could be an option because they don't
know about the future of Jacoby Brissett. You would have
Peyton's obvious connection to the organization. But I don't even

(01:25:16):
think that that is something that appeals to Eli of being.
Of being I think he's good, you know. I think
he's comfortable as you should be. Um had a had
a wonderful career, and I think, ray, if it's not
going to be in New York, then he's good. What
did we miss about Eli Manning? What do we not
know about Eli Manning that people should know? Well, we

(01:25:38):
found out that he's very good at flip Club, that
he's what he's really good at flip cup. I must
have missed it. Is it just? Um? I don't know, No,
I think would we miss is just every time they
had a chance to take down New England when it
mattered in the biggest games to Brady's nemesis. That's what

(01:26:00):
everybody will miss. Yeah, he made he made the biggest
plays and got you, helped you get some jewelry. Right,
I know you all know he got me because a
dime the many him. Yeah that was That was in
the NFCY Championship game where he just got abused and
still growns. What I found interesting about those comments here

(01:26:21):
by Eli Manning and the pure honesty and even Philip
Rivers yesterday is just the you know, resigning of the
fact of yachts probably over. Like Philip Rivers sounded like
he's not going to be a Charger next season. I mean,
he kinda broke down and after their loss to the
Kansas City Chiefs. I'm sure he's probably heard probably listening
to the sports talk radio on that car ride as

(01:26:41):
he's breaking down film from between San Diego and and
UH and l A. But the fact of the matter
is after that game, to get so emotional and talking
about the players and doing all that stuff, I mean,
there is a question. We think we know what the
charges are gonna do, but to hear it come from
the actual quarterback to me was a bit surprising. Yesterday.
That was just like, hey, Philip Rivers even thinks that

(01:27:04):
this could be the possible end. Yeah. I mean, but
that's the one thing with Philip. But he doesn't sugar
code anything. He lets you know how he feels, either
on the field off the field. He's gonna let you
know how he feels, you know. And it was honest.
You know, I think he feels like he's in a
he's definitely a situation where he doesn't need anybody speaking
for him, or he needsn't need to have subliminal messages
or be vague. He's like, this is what it is,

(01:27:24):
this is how I feel, this is my situation. And
he said, I gave him my all is the biggest thing.
He was like, I didn't, you know, Yeah, that's gonna
say two picks, But I don't care. I'm trying to
throw the ball and win football games. And so I mean,
I totally respect him for that. I respect the guy
who can go up there and and face all that
scrutiny and handle it. I can definitely. That's the one
thing I can say about Eli is that, look, there

(01:27:50):
was no one under more scrutiny. Look where he played,
and you didn't hear a darn thing from him in
terms of him feeling a certain way as opposed to yeah,
we're gonna go and say Baker where anything rottles him.
But good thing that Jets didn't draft him. Take the
take the three quarterbacks that were in Eli's draft class,

(01:28:12):
Philip Rivers being one of them. I find it very
unique that they, you know, they coming to the league together,
connected together, and now they may end up exiting the
league together. But Philip Rivers in New York, Ben Roethlisberger
in New York. I mean, you know, Ben's blocked half
the public on Twitter, you know, I mean, I mean,
but I mean Big Ben has been on a lot

(01:28:34):
of scrutiny and still came out and delivered. Sure, but
it wouldn't be what do you would get under in
New York? Like, it wouldn't be close to I don't
what you would have to I don't know. Do you
think that the Pittsburgh media, And I'm not saying that
Pittsburgh media is comparable. I'm just saying, like I think Philip,
I think Big Ben would have handled it. You probably

(01:28:54):
they probably been more vocal. They definitely would have been
more vocal than Eli. But they would have handled it
and still played well. But I I don't know if
it would affect their play. Where Baker is speaking a
lot and is affecting his play, and is affecting his team,
is affecting everything around him, and he's in Cleveland. I
think that I think that have been Roethlisberg and Philip
Rivers would have been in New York, that their comments

(01:29:17):
when they did talk would be a much bigger deal.
Even if it was something that was small minutes, you know,
a mole hill, it would have turned into a mountain
with the New York media. And I'm not saying that
the Pittsburgh media doesn't do their job. That's not what
I'm saying. I'm just saying it's a different animal when
you have New York City. He's Will Blackman, He's a
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(01:29:38):
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Brown playing Who is that? Oh? Klleen? That was sharing?
Sound like Chris Brown? Okay, cool, there's uh, there's some
news coming in. We just got word from Joel Klatt.
He sent us this message to us. He's not gonna

(01:30:43):
be able to join us to talk about what happened
on Saturday night in the Fiesta Bowl and in the
Peach Bowl. But don't worry. We're going to talk about it.
I ask you will. When you watch what happened between
Clemson and Ohio State and what happened in those sixty minutes,
in those three and a half to four hours, you
step away from that game and you remember one thing.

(01:31:08):
What is that one thing? Basically what I saw in
the Super Bowl. I saw an experienced, an experienced coach
who's been there be four who knows how to handle
those situations, versus a young stud with a hot team.
And that's what I saw. You know what, It's funny

(01:31:29):
because I actually saw the NFC Championship game where a
crappy call by a ref screwed the team. Because that's
that's what I saw in the Fiesta Bowl and multiple
the fumble. The bumble is kind of questionable because you
know who knows he could have been talking about it,
but the ejection was horrendous. I thought that was terrible.

(01:31:51):
The the there is when you look at I understand
what college football is saying on a targeting call. I
understand the reason for it. Their hope is that because
the penalty is so severe that people that players will
just stop doing it. But you would play Shaun Wade's
position in going and trying to tackle the quarterback. We

(01:32:13):
saw an ejection for a targeting foul previous in the
previous game of the Peach Bowl, where an Oklahoma player
launched himself at an LSU player who was unsuspecting the
hit not suspecting it, and the defender left his feet
here was Shaun Wade going in for a tackle on

(01:32:34):
a sack and to have those two calls be the
same and both have the severe penalty that it is,
to me, is is crazy. And unlike the NFC Championship
game where the play wasn't called a penalty and there
was no review, this triggers the automatic review. So not
only did you have the review, you had the ejection,

(01:32:57):
you had the third down sack then turned into a
first down with the objection. Clemson then attacked the Ohio
State back up another pass interference penalty, and Clemson scores
and that changes the game. So that to me is
I mean no, and those those are those are huge.
I understand that too, but there's still a football game

(01:33:17):
that needs to be played. Like there's no way you
let Trevor Lawrence run sixty five yards. I mean when
he when he came through, the safety was right there
in front of him, Like you missed the tackle. And
then this guy takes off, by the way, the safety
who replaced uh Sean Wade, who could have came in
and played that, Michael Proctor was the guy who missed

(01:33:39):
the tackle. But yeah, um, and then you have a
fifty three year oud run and buy you know, Travis
Aten and then you have a thirty four yard pass.
I mean these are explosive plays, you know what I'm saying,
where you still gotta play full, but you still gotta
get in the representation. You still gotta break down tracking
their hip, make these tackles like you. I mean they
only lost. You know what is Yeah, Ohio State was

(01:34:02):
up sixty nothing and here here and throw a pick
at the end. Yeah on a game when a drive,
what do you want? You had a chance to go
win when the game still But what was going on?
That is? That is what that is what ends up
I think getting under the skin of so many Ohio
State fans as it's it's not just one call, it's
what happened the entire game. Where there's a drop pass

(01:34:26):
by j K. Dobbins, there was a touchdown by j K.
Dobbins that was taken off the board following replay. There
was the fumble that was picked up on a scoop
and score that was ended up being returned. There were
so many different plays throughout the game where yeah, Ohio
State did have their chances, but there were also other
big plays that didn't allow certain things. And Clemson, Yeah,

(01:34:48):
they did stick around, they did make plays, They did
have the drive to go ninety plus yards in four
plays near the end of the contest. Which was actually
the best thing that could have happened to Ohio State
was that Umsin scored quick enough that allowed them to
get their offense back out of the field and maybe
have a chance to win the game. But I think
I think you're gonna see something in college football when

(01:35:10):
it comes to targeting, because they're just two different penalties.
Will when it comes to a guy leaving his feet
and going out ahead, or and going at someone's head
or neck area, or just the basic tackling of a quarterback,
the penalty is just I understand wanting to be safe,
but the penalty is too severe for the circumstances that
we're talking about when it's very difficult to try to

(01:35:31):
correct yourself. Okay, for example, so I'm a six one.
Say if I go in and I go to hit
brock Othwiler, who's six seven, I go to hit him,
and the and the ribs right, and all of a
sudden he curls up to protect himself, and all of
a sudden I smack him in a helmet. I'm gonna

(01:35:52):
get penalized for it. Sure, I'm gonna get you know,
in trouble for it. It happened, you know. Also Buffalo,
when josh An got knocked out, he curled up like
guy's curl. It's a natural the curl out and protect himself.
It's like, we're aiming. So what they do now in
the in the preseason the off season to go over
how to tackle properly. Yes, they show rugby videos and

(01:36:15):
they all show now almost like baseball, they have a
strike zone for us to like, hey, aim for the
strike zone. So if we aim for the strike zone,
and so all of a sudden, the ball carrier puts
his helmet in the strike zone. It was like, guys
are too fast to It's like, okay, those are the rules.
You just you have to adjust, which I understand you
have to adjustice rus, but that's just that's what it is.

(01:36:36):
What about the leading of your helmet, because that's what
they that The the official that was in the booth
of the game of the Ohio State Clemson games said
it didn't matter what Trevor Lawrence did. It was the
fact that Sean Wade lead with his helmet. Now in
layman's terms or just watching it as the average fan would,

(01:36:57):
to me, it would seem I find a leading with
the helmet. To me, is something where if I'm leading
and I know you can't well Vontas Burfitt did when
you hit the I think the Coast player Jack Doyle, Yeah,
Jack Dorr, what the top of his helmet? That is
legit leading with your helmet? You know that, I get.

(01:37:20):
But if you're going in to make a tackle, yes,
your helmet is going to lead, and you're still trying
to hit with the shoulder, but your helmet is still there. First. Yeah,
I've always and if I'm wrong, please tell me. But
I you know, I thought, you know, head up face
maybe like across the belly button. I see what you hit, ye, yes,

(01:37:43):
And that's and that's the issue is I think guys
are thinking that they are seeing what they are hitting,
but their head is leading, which then allows the ref
to make a call like that. I I mean, it
was it was a huge play, and obviously when they
make the call, you don't know if it is going
to have that much of an impact. But it just
had a big plus a huge, huge impact. And then

(01:38:06):
you add on the reversal of the catch, which I
just I don't understand of, you know, football move. When
they're talking about a receiver catching the ball, especially if
his arms are being locked by the defender, there's no
way for him to tuck the ball open. So if
the receiver is holding the football and takes three steps
and it's still away from his body, to me, that's possession.

(01:38:28):
That that was the other because he could have done
that as a toe tap on the sideline. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now,
now the question leads to this, is Clemson good enough
to beat L s U? I think so? Yeah? Are they?
Are they going to be able to stop Joe Burrow
something that Oklahoma could not do at all in the

(01:38:49):
Peach Bowl. I believe that Cleon sended once again as
as a way better coach team and they have the
highest paid assistant as the DEFENSI core data for a reason. Yeah,
they read zone defense was very good. Yeah, because you
saw Dabo said go make a play, go and make
go win the game for us, and that's what they did.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

(01:39:11):
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the Heart radio app. Oakland
Now Vegas Raiders have re sent Richie Incognitute to a
two year deal with fourteen million dollars fellas aspect to you,
Thank you very much, Dave. I will admit that I
was on Twitter and I went to the Raiders Twitter
page to see if they changed their location from Oakland

(01:39:34):
to Los Vegas already. Yeah, I thought maybe, like right away, No,
it is still Oakland, and in fact the Twitter handle
still says Oakland Raiders. But at some point they are
going to make a change, probably at the start of
the season, right the official start of the move their
stuff first. Yeah, I like, I thought it was right

(01:39:55):
when their season ended, so I thought, like, as soon
as they didn't get the two point conversion, hey, let's
just go to Vegas instead of Oakland. I'm joking there,
but I thought that it was going to be more immediate.
Maybe after the Super Bowl it will happen, but I
don't think it will be start of new league year.
I think it actually will happen before the training camp.
Still be a NAPA. Ah, that's a very very good question.

(01:40:20):
It would be It actually would be nice for the
fan base there too for a reason to come back.
And you know, why in the world would you want
to have camp in Vegas? Did you say wine in
the world? There it is, But like at the NFL
wine guy, Uh, Jason Garrett probably gonna go home have
a glass of wine tonight, maybe a nice cat. Oh no,

(01:40:42):
he might go Scotch Scott. Based on the decision tonight,
I think you'll want to relax tonight and the meaning
between Jason Garrett and the Dallas Cowboys ownership Jerry Jones
being the owner and Steven Jones, the team's executive vice
president going on as we speak. According to reports from
the NFL network, is there anyway Jason Garrett stays as

(01:41:05):
the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys Will Blackman and
there is Oh. I actually thought this was gonna be
one of Will's No, I mean he's he was there
that long, you know, and that was his you know,
had his his record, didn't do anything well for that long.
I don't see what another year is. Well. The changes

(01:41:26):
they made on offense, having Callen Moore be the offensive
coordinator continued the same problems that Cowboy fans feel has
been there for a while. Whether it be maybe not
as creative of offenses, whether it be an offense that
against good teams ends up being bottled up. Those are
things that have been a Cowboys issue. I like Dak press.

(01:41:49):
Dak Prescott is a better quarterback than people will give
him credit for. You do want to see the big
game situations and the and the receiver's not dropped six
passes like they did against the that Alfie Eagles. He
did have a bomb arm, but he also wasn't on
target in those games. But you also have the ability
will when I look at the Dallas Cowboys of if
you could bring someone in there to elevate Dac even more,

(01:42:13):
you're gonna have one special quarterback. And right now, I
don't know if all of the juice and Dak Prescott
has been squeezed out by Jason Garrett and Kellen Moore.
So I actually think that the quarterback position can grow
if there's a new voice in there to to help
the quarterback who they're likely to sign to a long
term deal, even though talks maybe a little rocky right now. Yeah,

(01:42:34):
I'm sure. I mean, this could be another thing where
it's like, all right, let's look at the overview let's
look at everything right now and let's have a discussion.
What is your plan, what do you think and maybe
this is a one year thing. Let's try it one
more time. I would I would be surprised to that.
I will say there is an unfair There is an
unfair criticism to Dallas. I understand where it's coming from

(01:42:59):
because there's a ceiling to it. But you look at
the Dolphins yesterday going to beat New England. We rip
on the Cowboys for being like, well, you only beat
bad teams. Well, you know what, there's some good teams
in the NFL that can't beat bad teams on certain weeks.
At least they will give Dallas the tip of the
cap of you know what, if a team comes in
that you should beat, at least they are beating them.

(01:43:21):
That also then provides the ceiling that has been the
real reason of why Jason Garrett is on the hot
seat in the first place. But sometimes when we're looking
at a team and we're trying to examine what are
the strengths and what are the weaknesses of the team,
The fact of the matter is there are good teams
in the NFL that will go and throw up a stinker,
just like the Saints that against the Falcons. There could

(01:43:42):
be division opponents that the Dallas Cowboys have had to
go up and play against, and you know what, they
didn't fall to the level of the competition against the
Washington Redskins. They didn't do that against the New York Giants. Yeah,
they got beat by the Philadelphia Eagles in a game
that pretty much had the entire season on the line.
They also took care of Philadelphia with ease the first

(01:44:02):
time they met. It's it's it's maybe it's a backhanded
compliment and it's the reason why they're in this position.
But yeah, yeah, exactly, like nobody, not many people picked
staff end of you where they are. Nobody knew what
was gonna happen. So we can say, oh, yeah, teams
weren't that good, Well, we didn't know. Because it's the NFL,

(01:44:22):
anything could happen. So when we saw the other day
Patriots lost to Miami, I I just I think it's
like with Dallas and where you are like it like,
the risk is minimal if you make a change. I
don't think the team will fall off the cliff. I
don't think that they are going to turn into a
four and twelve team. If you make the change, the
issue is just that right now you know what they are.

(01:44:44):
That's why I was kind of found it ridiculous when
we heard if Jason Garrett leads them to an NFC
championship game, he could save his job. So you're taking
two weeks or three weeks of the Dallas Cowboys getting
hot and that's enough to save the job. Like you
should know, you should have your decision, You should have
your information in enough order that two or three weeks

(01:45:04):
wouldn't define how you look at your head coach. Is
that fair enough? He's Will Blackman, I'm Dan Buyer. Get
Will on Twitter at Will Blackman, I'm at Dan Buyer
on Fox again. We we don't know the news about
Jason Garrett. We just know he met with the players today.
Reports out of there said it sounded more like a goodbye.
He is meeting with Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones. We

(01:45:25):
know that Pat Schermer is out as the head coach
of the New York Giants, but Dave Gentleman stays. Bruce
Allen is out as the president of the Washington Redskins.
Ron Rivera likely to be the new head coach of
the Redskins, with a deal maybe coming down official tomorrow,
but Rivera reportedly on his way to d C to
finalized terms of a contract, and Doug Moron also on

(01:45:46):
the Hot Seasons we were speaking with. David Gascon may
not know his status. He's expected to meet with the
Jaguars at some point tomorrow when it comes to his
future and the Browns. Yesterday firing Freddie Kitchens. Will Blackman
has already put in his vote of confidence for one
Eric b Enemy. You're getting good responses on Eric bi
Enemy as a possible head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

(01:46:06):
Any any any any dissent, anybody who doesn't agree with
that selection. I actually think it's a it's a very
smart move. There are a lot of ways to connect it,
and you're keeping your your quarterback accountable and you probably
have a head coach that will know how to utilize
Nick Chobb and Creamhunt in that running game. I think
there's a lot of validity too. There's a lot. There's

(01:46:27):
a lot there. There's a lot for for um. Almost
like when when Dorsey took the job, he looked and
was like, man, look at all these pigs, right look
at all this cap that I can I can play
with and and and and news you know, and as
a as a coordinator like b enemy, I will look
at the same thing like do I got you know,

(01:46:48):
he could have been the leading rusher, but one of
the top running backs, you know, Cream Hunt still there.
And I got a bunch of receivers, and I got
a quarterback skill set wise is capable. And if I
can just slot him in the head and get him
to follow suit, you know we're doing okay. He's Will Blackman.
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Find

(01:47:10):
Will on Twitter at Will Blackman and at NFL one guy.
I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox. Today is a very
very special day in sports. I'll tell you about it
next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Now, that would get
Jason Garrett, would get him fired. That would be a

(01:47:33):
sure sure beats you. He's Will Blackman. I'm Dan Buyer.
The Jason's phone ring in the meeting and he was like,
what the heck is this? Oh man, there there's a
report now from Jane Slater that the Cowboys head coach
Jason Garrett has exited his meeting with Jerry Jones and

(01:47:54):
Stephen Jones. So well, I think a decision has been made.
We just don't know what that decision is going to be.
We may find out within the next ten minutes of
this show. That would be great for our case if
it did go down. But I would say that the
Jason Garrett decision has been made, we just don't know

(01:48:15):
what it is. That's my guess. Is that fair Enough's yes,
But you're not gonna hear like we're gonna mean again
on Wednesday like that. That is a possibility, It's just
not a very likely possibility. Fair Enough. I think Jerry's
just messing with us right now. I think so he's
probably looking through the blinds, like, look at those guys

(01:48:36):
out there. Watch, I'll watch all of these watch all
of these idiots over react to stuff. Yeah, that's way,
that's what we're doing. We're keeping our eye on what's
going on with the Dallas Cowboys. Garret's gonna give the
old Vince Young um back. That's how Jerry Jones should
unveil Twitter like at some point or Jason Garrett if

(01:48:58):
they're on. If Jason Garrett stays, you should get at
coach Garrett and then uh, maybe maybe you could use
a drop that we had, you know, as you said,
you know the I'll be back, but if you left,
you could just have asta lavista baby. You could also
if he gets let go have this all right, hey,

(01:49:21):
let's get to the latest headlines of the day. Please,
you don't like any of those drops? Will not at all?
What it is it the fact David Gascon is here?
Is it the fact that we are talking about someone's dismissal?
Or you just didn't like the content of the drops.
So if we had something that was more like a
like a Marvel comic sort of thing, like is there

(01:49:44):
a Thanos reference we can use? Right? Will? Hey, Dave Scott,
Dave's got some headlines? Are you like any of those drops? All?
By the way, Will almost died on the air here
like fift few minutes ago. Nobody knew of the wiser.
But you're all right, aren't you? What happened? Nothing happened? No,

(01:50:05):
there it is there? It is cool. Played it cool?
You can I get some news, you can and the
news I want is why did you almost die? I
don't know. You don't want to talk about it. There's
nothing happening. Something happens, hey, guys. Window or aisle? Oh window,

(01:50:27):
Oh my gosh, window. I need to go to sleep.
Bro alright, yes, what about you. I'm more of an
aisle guy. But if I go across country or no,
across uh Atlantic, I'll go. I'll go window. I don't
use the arrest room a lot. Um. The reason why
I bring that up is because yesterday, I don't know

(01:50:49):
if you guys saw this or heard about this, but
the University of Kansas, their men's basketball team beat Stanford
two to fifties six. That wasn't the news. Um. Twenty
minutes into their chartered flighting home him one of their
engines blue. I don't know if you guys saw the
video footage of it, Butler I read about it, but yeah, yeah.
One of their sports information directors actually videotaped the actual occurrence,

(01:51:13):
and the engine looked it literally looked like an engine
from a car, like the pistons firing. And so they
have there's video footage online of the engine bluence the
right engine of the bird. Uh. They had a land
back at San Jose's airport twenty minutes after they had
taken off. Everyone was fine. Uh, fire department came. Obviously,
they didn't need to need them at all. Everyone landed

(01:51:35):
safe and sound. But of course they had a book
a hotel from the night and then returned back. Yeah.
That that, I mean, that's that's super scary stuff. You
guys ever had an instant like that like that? Yeah, yeah,
there's nothing nothing like that. I do want to say,

(01:51:55):
And I know, Dave, you've got a ton of stuff
going on. Jane Slater just tweeted, we are being told
there will be no announcements being made tonight here at
this start in Frisco. On Jason Garrett, I feel like,
I feel like this news is is like dragging on
long and than like and Aaron Hernandez court appearance or

(01:52:17):
something like that. Don't you I'm not what, man, You
guys don't want to go down that. No, No, that's it.
That's we'll talk about that all right. Fair enough? Where
else are we going? You guys mentioned it? Pat Schermer
he's out, Dave Gettleman's in. How about this guy, he's uh,
he played quarterback for them this season Eli, Manning, that's
the first persis of whether whether to I want to

(01:52:38):
continue to to play or not? And then go from there.
Do you think you've got some quality football left in you? Eli, Well,
that's what that's what I'll decide. And uh and and
try to just figure figure that out and m yeah, man,
I think I can Um, I can still play. Uh,
but you know, just figure figure figure everything out. If
you are a general manager and you need a quarterback,

(01:53:01):
do you take a flyer on him for one season? No,
not at all. And and and it's not anything against Eli,
it's just that's it's not the league as anymore. I mean,
you used to have head coaches who would latch onto
a veteran thinking it's going to save their job, when
the best thing to do is just go with the
young guy and help the young guy works out and

(01:53:22):
then guess what, you can keep the job longer as
long as you associate yourself with the old guy. I
don't think that anything. Now. If you get into the
postseason and you lose your quarterback, then yes, I'm calling Eli. Guys,
we go to uh college football today. I don't know
if you make much of this, but Ian book return

(01:53:43):
on the red shirt. Junior announced it on social media.
He's returning next season for Notre Dame o BC coming
in hot uh NBA news nice returning back to the
court tonight, bigger news for him or for Eric Bledsoe.
He's making his return for the Bucks after two weeks off.

(01:54:06):
It's always good when you honest plays. But I will
take just to have Eric Bledso back. You said no,
Wesley Matthews, I think earlier. Interesting to see what the
Bucks do, what they're starting lineup, dot did Evencenzo's kind
of gotten the run with with Eric bledso out, So
if Wesley's out tonight, we'll see if Notte stays in
the starting lineup now that Eric Bledsoe is back. But

(01:54:27):
it's good to Bledso back because he had the more
severe injury. By the way, you could get Will's podcast
Hoop Do Your on Apple and iTunes right, that's your
NBA podcast, Whoop does Your? I don't even like soup
Bucks and five this season or four games in from
the Miami Heat. The guys, Today is the birthday of

(01:54:48):
Lebron James. What would you get a guy that has everything?
This is why it was a special day because you
know who else's birthday it is today, Dan Buyers, No, No,
Tiger Woods o l Yeah, and you know who else,
Sandy Kofax. It's my mother's birthday. To really happy birthday.
The the the greatness that was born on December is

(01:55:11):
I think a day that is unrivaled by I think
Shack and Jeff bag While we're born on the same day,
because I think they were born on my buddy's birthday.
But but but I mean flip bat flipper ball. But
but to have to have Tiger Lebron and Sandy Kofax
on the same day, that's that's stuff. I'm good me

(01:55:34):
Albert pool Holes, Joe Flacco, and shod A are on
the same all right. When's your birthday? Will October? I
don't know. I share uh. I share a birthday with
one Tom Hanks, oh not bad and also Orenthal Jay Simpson,
I think I think James Woods not bad actor and
Jason City my buddy growing up for my hometown. He

(01:55:56):
was he was also born on October. Guys, Teddy Roosevelt
and Will's got Alonzo ball to that was the man
big baller brand there. It is not too shabby for you,
Teddy Roosevelts, Will Blackman, and Alonzo Ball. Hey if I

(01:56:18):
don't see it, Happy New Year, Will YouTube my man? Alright, yeh,
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