Lakers Playing the Clippers Would Have Been Cathartic

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I look, I want to talk a little bit about
the Chiefs and how they ultimately will pay Pat Mahomes.

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I want to discuss what what appears to be a
great team versus a great offense and the precedent which
we have seen and the cliche which we know about
defense winning championships offense winning games. But I and I
don't want to be bummers sad news radio all day long.

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But I I want to make sure I say this
because I think it's important that we all a lot
of people just brush it off like, oh, that makes sense.
The Lakers and the Clippers were set to play tonight
at Staples. The game has been postponed and it will
be played a different day. And I completely understand that

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a lot of you are going that was the right
thing to do this, right, that was that was a
good That was a good decision. That was right, right,
right call, good decision, right call. Uh. This was a
Lakers home game. This is very important. This is a
Lakers home game. So instead of playing the Laker the
Clippers tonight at home, they will in three nights, not postponed,

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they will play the Portland's Trailblazers on Friday night at Staples.
That will be the first Laker home game, first Laker
game period since Lebron passed Kobe become the third all
time leading score in the history of the NBA, and
of course since the passing of Kobe Bryant and eight
other people on board the Mamba Chopper. But tonight would

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have been maybe a little bit early, and it would
have been a little bit raw, and it might not
have been great basketball. But it's exactly what Los Angeles needed.
It's exactly what the Lakers need. It's exactly what basketball needs. Frankly,

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even sports like I understand that there's going to be
memorial is gonna be outpouring a support, and Kobe will
be memorialized time and again at home games, even when
they play the Portlands Railblazers. The Clippers are a team
that occupy the same arena. The Clippers have Kauai Leonard,
whose game in some ways reminds people of Kobe Bryant.

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He grew up like Paul George, watching and idolizing those
Laker teams with shocking with Kobe. But like the Lakers,
Clippers has not always been a rivalry. It's become one,
but it's in l a thing. And I cannot believe
that the Lakers and the Clippers, especially the Lakers going

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through this very very hard time, couldn't see the plus
is way outwigh the minuses. Look, when somebody close to
you dies, it's always going to feel like too early.
It's always gonna feel like too early. On the other hand,
what do you left to do if you're not playing

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basketball or or working, You're left to sit and think.
You got the rest of the day to think. The
whole idea of sports is to take us, for whatever
period of time we're playing sports, the people that are
watching sports, and even when us plays first, you're not
thinking about what's going on at home, issue with your wife,

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issue with your kids, issue with your folks, your in laws,
your finances, your job, or whatever. You're just watching the game. Hey, hey,
can you keep it down? The game's on? And how
many times did your dad say that to you? Maybe
only my dad was was the Neandrewthal. Don't say anything.
I'm taping the game. And then the game was on.
Nobody's talking because I'm watching the game, right, because the

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rest of the world doesn't exist. I actually told my
son this um about two weeks ago. We went for
a bike ride. He had like an afternoon in the
weekend off, which never happens. We go for a bike
ride and he was like, Dad, which sport did you
like best when I you were a kid. And I
told him, like I loved them all. I was like,
you know what I love most about playing basketball? I said,

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you know, when I got to college and many times
when I was playing and professionally I wasn't a great
score I wasn't a great shooter, but my power was passing.
He's like, yeah, I know that dead, I said, but
that's not the part I like best. The part I
like best was I would see something before everybody else
saw something. I would throw a pass and you would

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almost hear a gasp from the crowd, and then my
teammate would catch it and dunk it or finish it
or make a shot. Right Because for whatever period of
time I was playing and they were watching, they were
so into what was going to happen next. They weren't
thinking about their car, their wife, their job, their dad,

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their mom, the death of Kobe Bryant. That's exactly what
people need, THENU Factorings, Lakers, Clippers, It's l a Those
Laker fans are the ones who need need a game.
They need a game right now to feel better, even
if only for three hours. They need to not think

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about what they feel and how they connect and how
it makes them. If Kobe Bryant can be mortal and
succumb to a playing to a helicopter crash, what can
happen to me? Right? If immortals can die, can be mortal,
then what about me? So people struggle with the NBA
ratings have been down, it would have been the highest

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rate of game to date. The Lakers and the Clippers
are burgeoning rivalry. They may well match up seven times
in the Western Conference finals. The Lakers need a game
like your fans need a game. Basketball needs this big game,
and what are the options? Right? The Clippers are gonna
play the Kings on Thursday. The Lakers are gonna play

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the Blazers on Friday. That's not a way to celebrate
the life of Kobe Bean Bryant going out and playing
a game because I think of Kobe. There's a famous surfer,
big wave surfer, named Eddie Cow. I believe it's how
you pronounced his last name. And I think BILLI Bong
bought the rights to the saying, and forgive me if

(08:05):
I get the wrong surf gear company. But the the
expression in Hawaii is Eddie would go right. Waves are
too big, Eddie would go overcast, Guys, Eddie would go
you gotta stomach ache. Eddie would go right because Eddie Cow,
who who actually died surfing big waves? Because it's a
big wave surfer, and you know, mother nature does win.

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That's how Kobe Bryant was, Wasn't he Wasn't that the
whole idea of the mama mentality, pushing through all pain,
all fatigue to try and win. So look, I'm not
gonna I'm not crushing the NBA. I'm not crushing the Lakers.
I'm not sitting here telling and telling you they're idiots.
I understand our desire to be as sensitive as possible.

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I know that my daughter is is mourning. I can't
imagine people had like Rob Polinka, the general manager of
the Lakers, who Kobe Bryant was his best friend, right
like you lose a best friend. I can't imagine all
those players who grew up idolizing him. You saw Lebron
James when he stepped off the plane from Philadelphia. These guys,

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it's really hard to deal with, and no one wants
to rush them back on. But you're gonna make him
play Friday anyway, ran they're gonna play Thursday. That's her job,
and she gotta get back to work. Why not celebrate
the life of Kobe Bryant the way that Kobe Bryant
would like this life celebrated with a with a good
old fashioned win against the l a Clippers at Staples.

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It would be cathartic. How do I know nineteen years
ago yesterday there's a plane crash in Oklahoma State and
days later, you know, I think they had a game
Postpone days later they played Missouri and somehow they garnered
the strength to beat Missouri and what was an incredible

(09:59):
home court aspect. It was cathartic for everybody in the arena.
Did it bring back ten people that died on a
in a plane crash come back from Colorado? No? Did
it fix all that was broken? No? But for those
two hours or what would be the two and a
half hours of an NBA game, or maybe three hours,
and sometimes they last forever, especially with the video reviews,

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nobody's thinking about pain, nobody's thinking about home, nobody's thinking
about loss. You just think about the game. And I
think the NBA did what so many will do in
an effort to be super supersensitive. He actually didn't understand
the power and value of your own sport. I think

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Is amazing how the world comes full circle. I told
you guys yesterday how I was watching my daughter at
a horse riding competition with my phone buzzed, and I
thought it was a fake story that that Kobe Bryant
had died. I was actually previously that having a conversation
with my mom, who just celebrated her make sure I
get this right, her seventy fourth birthday. She was talking

(12:31):
about her osteo arthritis. And then of course I sit
down in Rod Woodson Hall of Famer, uh most famously
Pittsburgh Steelers in Baltimore. Ravens. He joins us here in
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I live with the pain. I'm like in my head,
I'm just gonna I just gotta live with this pain
for rest of my life. It's gonna have to do
with it. Because I'm an outdoors guy and a lot
I love to hike, I love to to be on
the track. I loved their jog. I really couldn't do it.

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will get all the information information. Yes, uh, Rod Wodson
joining us on behalf of Zaretta. Where were you when
you found out Kobe died? At home? I was in
my living room. My daughters looked at me and said,
Kobe died. And I thought we have a friend named Kobe.
And I was like, little Kobe died. And they're like, no,

(14:42):
Kobe Bryant. And you know, all the reports came after that,
and I just felt for his wife. I know, you know,
we're all filling for Kobe. You know what he did
and what he did on the cord and how he
was as a mentor, how it was an even an
artist even afterwards, you know, um having a short film. Um,

(15:06):
he did a lot of good things on the court.
His his young daughter was on the plane. You know
other family members for different families who are on the plane.
But what his wife and his other daughters have to
live through now is it is tough. Yeah. I mean,
like I was having this conversation, so I don't know
Vanessa that well. I know it. Knew Kobe pretty well.
My daughters were friends, and she's friends with some of

(15:27):
the other girls. But it's like this is the part
you don't even think about. Like Vanessa has two little
baby girls, right, and the older one is in high school. Um,
you know, your support system is all there. Do you
move right? Because you move because there's just too many
memories every time you walk in the door. There's a
gym at his house and he and he and Gi

(15:47):
Gi Gianna used to go in that gym and train.
You know. Do you move on the other hand, like
you know, and moving on somebody else to get those
memories you have? Like that's all you got, right? Um?
Do you stay? But if you like, there's I just
I can't imagine Vanesse. I can't imagine any of those
families that people don't come home. I mean, he's a husband,
he's a father, he's a mentor, all the things that

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we talked about his playing career, which was tremendous. He
was a human being and he left behind the legacy
not just with the fan base and with the Lakers,
but with his family and first and foremost, more than anything.
We saw him as a father, how's mentoring his daughter?
And that lost she was on the plane wood thing,
but that lost to the rest of the family. I mean,

(16:32):
it's I couldn't even imagine. I couldn't imagine if my
wife passed away with one of my kids. I think
I would lose it. No, I mean I really would.
I mean, it's the kids, I mean, and then there's
the the he's forty one there. I mean, those kids
had so much to live for and look forward to.
This Unfortunate accidents like to happen all the time. This time,

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Kobe Bryant was on the helicopter, y rod Woodson joining
us to the Hall of Fame. Right, let's let's talk
a little football. Um first, let me start on the
defense side. That you are of expertise. You've played it,
you've broadcast about it, you've coached it in the National
Football League. I know Richard Sherman Darrell Rivas are different players, right,
But Richard Sherman and he's a guy who's he's not

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just talked to talk, he's walked the walk. But Drrell
Reevas was like, hey, nobody would throw it? Mean, you
go always picks because people will throw at you. I
played man to man. There's the macheese moo man a man,
whereas uh, you know, you've got more of his own
look from what San Francisco is doing. Um, is Sherman
in Rivers's class in your mind? Well, first of all,
let me go here and let me say it's very

(17:40):
petty for Reevs to do that, and listen, he Richard
Sherman is who he is. He plays in the system
that he plays it. Let it be. I never crossed
my mind to tweet about how poor somebody played at
a position because I played it in my mind better, right.
I think it's petty Reeves should be above that. He

(18:03):
was a good player. I understand that. But in the
time frame that Richard Sherman has been in the league,
and if you want to say he's his own player,
then say it. But he still has thirty nine interceptions
including the postseason, more than anybody else since in his
time frame of playing in the league. That's pretty good,
all right, that's pretty good. I just think it's petty

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for somebody to come out and call out one of
his to me, each position, it's like an extended family.
So DBS, we all know each other. You know, I
have much respect for it. The seventies, the sixties and seventies,
eighties and ninies, all those guys who I played and

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competed against for stats, I have much respect for. And
I would never go out of my way to social
media to criticize a guy during the game because he
got beat on a double move. So everybody gets beat
direct Revers has been beat. Oh, he got beat a
lot in his last year with the Jets. He kind

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of embarrassed him Stuf by not being in proper shape.
But I'm just saying, but everybody's been beating. The bear
gets you, and you get the bear. But as long
as you get the bear more and he gets you,
then you're a pretty good player. And I would say
Richard Sherman's a pretty good player. Is he in the
same classes revis It's hard for me to say that
they're playing different systems. Um, it's never been asked of.
Even though I think before he heard his achilles, I

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think Richard Sherman could match a guy. Um. He was long,
he understood the systems, He understood football in general. He's smart,
he's cerebral, he understands formations, He understands splits. He is long,
and the one thing he does well he gets the
football when he comes his way. Reevas is a little
bit different. You know. Rivas was hands more hands, and

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he was a really good press guy. He's very patient.
He was probably the best patient corner I've seen in
press in my time frame. Um, but I just think
it's on his part to call out one of his
contemporary contemporaries have played his position during the game. I
just think that's petty. I think Reeves should be above that. Um,

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you won this You won this game before uh eleven
time Pro Bowl, the Rod Woodson Hall of Famer joining
us Dot Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I feel like
we're walking into the I'm not, but many are walking
into the exact same trap they've walked into for years,
which is Man. We love offense. Offense is fun and
nothing's more fun than watching Pat Mahomes and Tyreek Hill

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and Travis Kelsey. Offense is fun. But Ravens twice over
have done this right with average offenses. Um, we saw
Seattle do it to the Broncos. The Broncos offense fifty touchdowns.
Paid Man a couple of years ago in New York.
We saw it frankly last year, right with the Patriots
slowing the game down short in the game and shutting

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down the high powered offense of the Rams. You know,
you go back to the Bills when they used to
when they were spread now going four and five wide,
and they lost four straight Super Bowls, the old adages.
Even the Patriots best team on paper was eighteen and
l right, fifty touchdown passes for Brady to Randy Moss
and um, but they lost to the Giants because the
Giants pass rush. Right, are we walking into that same travel.

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We're enamored by Mahomes. We're rooting for any Read because
he said he's done a long time, He's come so close,
and we're missing the fact that the defense and defensive
fronts like the four they have, that's how you win
a championship. I think both teams poses problems for the
opposing team. So when you look at Kansas City's offense, listen,

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they're gonna put number ten, they're here, what number three?
They're gonna put seventeen Harbin at number two. They're gonna
put fourteen Wants and Sammy they can put him outside
the number one they're gonna flex Kelsey outside. They're gonna
chow which things what I mean by that, They're gonna
take their running back, either Williams and McCoy, and he's
gonna split the tackle. He's gonna chip the end, probably

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where Boast is at. Then he's gonna chip release. What's
their answer, because these guys are getting vertical now if
they can get pressure on my homes, which he's done
a tremendous job he was. He was the m v
P last year. I think he played better this year
because he didn't take those unnecessary sacks. He didn't he
felt the timing, he felt the clock in his head.
He got rid of the football. He was more willing

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to take the check down. He diddy last year. He
threw fifty touchdowns last year. I thought he played more.
I thought he played better. He didn't have those plays
last year where he said, what the who are you
throwing a ball too? He didn't do that this year.
So like so can't can they stopped that vertical passing game,
which is the strength of the forty Niners defense. On

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the back end, they give up the least amount of
deep balls than any other team throughout this year, but
they get it because that front four, which they got
some dogs up there, they can get that pass rush
if they do not get after him and he extends
those plays with his feet. Can the back end hold
up for the fort end? That's my concern, that's my question.

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But then on the back end, when you look when
you flip the two and you go to the forty
Niners offense and there's the running backs. Man, the dudes
can run, no doubt. I mean they're fast and all
of them. Yes, they get to that edge and if
you don't set it, they're gone. And if you do,
they give one cut. Guys that are all all really
good at what one cut. And what I love about Kyle,
he's just like his dad. He gains plans. He's gonna

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have like four runs that they only do for this game.
They run that outside zone, they run inside zone. They're
gonna cut the backside, one cut downhill, they're gonna they're
gonna have three. They're gonna have three to four runs
just for this defense. And if they can't stop that run,
because these guys get to the second level in the
chief linebackers, they're okay, They're not great, they're Okay, if

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they get to that second level, they got issues talking
about can't see the chie Chiefs defense. Now they've played
better on the back end that you know, when you
switch from a three four to fourth three. I love Steve,
I think he's a good court later, but when you
switch they had that growing pains early. They played better late.
You know, they you know, basically give up a hundred
and forty eight yards a game there on rush defense statistically,

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but they have played better down the backstretch. But if
they can't stop to run, Patrick Mahomes not scoring on
his bench, and that's that's to the line. I think
both team causes problems for the other team that they
both played their best game. Which team can win? I
just don't know if you can outscore Kansas City if
they get that thing going. I don't know if Jimmy

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g is gonna be that guy too, or you know,
the offensive be that team that can score thirty five
against his defense. Um. I think it's gonna be a
three point game, and I think it's gonna be a
close game. I think it's gonna be an exciting game.
I think it's a great matchup for both teams. For
really the fans in general. Um, and I think Andy

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Reid deserves a Super Bowl. I mean, this guy, he's
a good man. Now, he's a he's he had his
own personal struggle with his boys off the field. One
of course, recovered one died during training camp point year.
I mean he got fired from Philadelphia place. He went
to five straight NFC championships and then one Super Bowl
within that time. Yeah. I mean, and look, they built

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consistently in Kansas City and finally gotten over the hump
the past two years. Uh, there's no question about. On
the other hand, for Kyle like, look, had a Super
Bowl one when he was in Atlanta, and he probably
kicks himself, he said only over two plays. But those
two plays he end up having a super Bowl. And
maybe the history is is different. It's it's gonna be faster.
Rod Woodson, our guest on the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Tradio. I want to ask you about

(25:34):
about Brady. You've obviously switched teams. It was Steelers went
cheap on you when your contracts expired. You went to
San Francisco for a year and then you went to Baltimore. Um.
But this is later in his career, and it's different
at quarterback, and his relationship with his coordinator is different,
and it's I mean, you got fifteen of a twenty

(25:54):
year relationship there with with one guy. With josh Um.
He could go to Vegas with the Rays organization you
work for. He could go to the Chargers that they
have dudes, they have position players, their questions blocking for him.
I'm sure I could find you know, five other teams
would he could go go to? I don't know if
they make sense though, because the market size with Giselle

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where you actually want to live. What would you do
if you're advising Tom Brady? What would your process be? Well,
I wouldn't If I was Tom, I wouldn't leave. And
if if Robert Kraft let's Tom Brady walk out that door,
I'll listen. Tom Brady has given everything he has for

(26:36):
that franchise. He's given him a hometown discount all these years.
He's never said, hey, give me my thirty million. I'm
the best quarterback. I've got six Super Bowl rings. No
other quarterback has that they've brought He's brought them. He's
done more with less talent in his time frame. And
I've always been kind of a little critical of Tom

(26:57):
over the time, sure saying that he's not the best.
And and as I keep watching him and I keep
looking at it from afar, I always say Dan Marino
is the best quarterback ever played against, just for the
fact that he's done more with less, and it's time
from a plane. Well, Tom is the same thing. But
Tom has six rings to go with it, and he's

(27:18):
never asked them to do what they're supposed to do
is pay him top dollar he has made in his career.
Just you know, he's made two and thirty million dollars
in salary. Right, He's played a long time. But I'm saying,
with that being said, that's irrelevant to the point that
he's never he's never been the highest paid quarterback. No,
I got it. But but he's also now you've got
to the point where he's not close to the best

(27:39):
quarter No, he's not, and he needs more help now
in the time which he needs more help, the argument
would be, we gotta pay you less because we can't
get you enough to support you. But my thing is this, Listen,
I think Robert Kraft should one time, So listen, I
want you to come back. I'm gonna pay you one time.
What's you're old? I'm gonna of your thirty million, But

(28:01):
then you got to retire. He has to me. He
owes him that. If he doesn't do it, I think
it's a shame. But you see Tom Brady walk out, listen,
and I didn't understand. Listen. I've left Joe Montana. Everybody units,
everybody leaves different places. But it would be a shame
to see a guy dedicate himself for all these years

(28:24):
and it's not I left in ten years. Well, this
is way past ten years for Tom. And to have
Tom plut on another union form for one more year
maybe or two more years at the most, maybe because
they couldn't work something out in New England would be ashamed.
You think yourself as a Steeler, Raven, I'm by racial

(28:46):
in life, so I just kidder myself. I consider myself
by ratio in football. Okay, fair enough, I would say.
I mean, you know, I played ten years. I played
ten years in Pittsburgh and I love the Steelers. I'm
Black and Gold guy. You know, my high school was
Black and Go, my college was Old Black and Gold.
I went to Black and Gold. My city that I

(29:07):
came from had three Rivers. I went to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
who had three Rivers in their downtown area. I unfortunately
I didn't play my whole career there, and then I
got a great opportunity to play for another iconic franchise
coming up with the Balton Ravens. Have an opportunity to
win a Super Bowl. We weren't good when I first
got there, but I do have pride and to help

(29:30):
build a foundation and it's now the Raven Way. The
Steelers have their way, they had their way before I
got there. To help build this the Raven Way, I have.
I take some pride in that because it was it
was growing, we grew it. Ray took it to another level.
Ed Reid took it to another level. These guys played
with the same pride that the Ravens. And I always

(29:52):
say it if he stripped off the freaking Colors, man,
they play alike. They played tough, gritty football. They're gonna
hit you in mouth as soon as you walk off
the bus and see if you can beat them. And
and you know, there's a little of what Slash did
with with Pittsburgh with what Baltimore is doing now right
there are there are some other weird parts to it.
Hall of Famer Rod Woodson, who, by the way, seventy

(30:13):
one interception seventy one interceptions during a seventeen year career,
so he knew a thing or two about catching the football,
not just as return specialists as well. Thanks so much
for joining us in behalf of of Zaretta. That's get
the Z dot com. Get the Z dot com. Did
you see the story out of Kansas City Dan about
Clark Hunt, who was, of course the chairman of the Chiefs.

(30:34):
She said, there'll be the right time sometime in the
next twelve to fifteen months to extend Patrick. When I
say right time, I mean right time. But with player
and club led to fifteen months, that's a different timeline
than the one that we assumed they'd be under it. Well,
I always think sooner the better if you're if your
ownership and paying Patrick mahomes. But because it's not like
the price tag is gonna get any you know. No.

(30:55):
But but in fairness, they don't like we do this thing.
We're like, you guy to tear up that deal. No,
you don't like I'm running a business. You're under contract.
There's the fifth year option. Then there's a franchise tag. Like,
just like we said that, you don't have to bow
to the whims of the because everybody's like, well, you
gotta pay him more than everybody else, Okay, how much more?

(31:17):
You know, if they're ever they want million dollars, Like, no,
nobody's near that. It's not financially responsible for the rest
of the football team. And we may get to that
point where you gotta pay that much, but I don't
have to right now. And if I don't have to,
I'm definitely not gonna overpay you. And then you know,
Rob Peter to pay Paul, then something else has to go.
Don't you think though that the way that things are

(31:37):
trending with Patrick Mahomes or is that given them the
leverage that they I mean what leverage. He doesn't actually
have any leverage. Just the only leverage he has is
to not play. That's it. They have them in a
fifth year contract next year, franchise tag could be the
next two or three years after that. If they wanted
to drive a hard bargain, they absolutely could. Okay, so
what about what about this scenario where they could sign him,

(32:00):
say for forty million dollars a year right now on
an extension worth million dollars over five years, let's say.
But now you drag it out like you do, you know,
with the franchise tag and then another franchise tag, and
now all of a sudden, it's forty eight million dollars.
But but you didn't spend forty over over the two

(32:21):
other years, You'll spend probably thirty. Now it will hurt
you in the salary cap. Where as you pay a guy,
they can hide money and whatever my guests would be,
They're gonna probably work things out and see, can we
get it on the books now to start next year?
If not, remember the books don't close until March every year,
So if they don't pay him this year and he

(32:42):
goes fifth year extension, they can they can start the
new contract and pay him after next season. But before
the year begins, just saying to him like, look, we're
not going to give you a big race now, we
promise we will give you one, but we're gonna use
that money so that you always have a great football
team around you. I think that's a reasonable conversation to have.
But I don't think you just need to go here's
the blame check. Tell us what you want. There are

(33:03):
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(33:48):
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stuff on a super Bowl themed edition. Doug, rank your
three favorite super Bowl host cities. Oh, good question, good question.

(34:35):
Um I think Miami. Well, yeah, Miami might be number one.
Miami's number one. In New Orleans is too and uh
hard one for three hard. I mean l A hasn't

(34:57):
hosted one, and I think it could be really bad
and it out, but it could be really good if
everything is you know, it depends on where they hold
everything done correctly. Well, I mean the Convention Center, the
New Convention Center combined with l A Live. If everything
is right there, I mean that's pretty unbelievable set up.
And then you just only go over to the stadium.
I have feeling the NFL network do stuff at the
stadium because they owned property there. M let's see here.

(35:19):
What are my other options? Tampa? I've never been to
a Tampa Super Bowl. Sticks here, Houston, not really. I
like Phoenix. It's very everything is very spread out, very
spread out. When recently in the Bay area. You're not
not San Francisco. I mean there's no San Diego's no
stadium now so so all time, yes, all time. Oh, oh, Miami,

(35:41):
New Orleans and I'll go with New York was kind
of cool, but nobody cared. It was just like, oh, yeah,
there's a game Sunday. Um, I'll go with sa I'll
go with San Diego. Okay, there you go. Rank your
three favorite things about Miami. Weather, the food. Um, the

(36:03):
weather and the food. You know no one else I've
noticed no one's good looking down here. You live in
Los Angeles playing good looking people. Even think it's more
good looking people here. I would say, here's what I think.
Here's here's the honest. Okay, this is the one city
in the country that you land in where you're like,
it feels like a different country right between the diversity

(36:27):
of ethnicities and languages and just kind of the feel. Right,
it does feel a little like Central America, a little
like Europe, a little like South America. Um, so I
would say the feel if you will. I really like,
I grew up as a native of southern California. Thing
in Miami was fake California, right, Like, it's not you know,

(36:49):
the summers just gross and humid and whatever, but I
do have a great and there's like, look, it's eight
degrees today, it's perfect. The sand is nice, the water
is nice, the people are nice. I love the Cuban coffee.
I like the food. I'm good with it. I find
l A is like the two people who hate each other,
because there's so much alike. Now I'm not saying that

(37:10):
their exact replicas, but I don't know if you could
find another place that is at least as similar from
Los Angeles in this country. Then Miami ranked the three
best players in Super Bowl fifty four Doug Pat Mahomes
at one, um Nick Bosa, Nick Bosa, Yeah, and I'll

(37:32):
go Tyreek Hill. All right, let's go back to the
Super Bowl memory bank. Your three most memorable super Bowl memories. Uh,
number three would be um uh alan uh what's his
name from the Raiders, Marcus Allen's run against the Washington Redskins.

(37:55):
And I'll be one. Um. I would say Scott Norwood
missing the goal bills against the Giants. Course, that was
win Houston saying the national anthem, right, that was youring
the Persian go for and then the comeback that I
would say the oh, the inner said the Malcolm Brown

(38:15):
interception interception Malcolm. Yeah, alright, Doug, finally rank your three
favorite Roman numerals. Oh, yes, there's yeah. I like V
for victory one. Okay, V goes. That's five l l
um and I like I like okay, not even D

(38:39):
for Doug. That's five. We haven't used that yet. I
thought you meant more super Bowls. Okay, and that's that's
game time. This is game time? His favorite one. This
because it's triple X. No, I'm just kidding. What what is? Hey?
What is your favorite Super Bowl memory? We'll get to

(39:00):
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That game has been postponed. I shared with you my
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Chris Sim's gonna join us next hour, Chris Sims And
who else is the next tour? There's somebody else coming
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(40:03):
doing Stefan Diggs is this hour. He'll join us about
minutes or so. Solomon Wilcox is gonna join us next hour.
I said, Chris Simms, you were you were? You were
talking with Jonas Knocks, who co host Straight in a
Vegas is clearly more important than this, actually your actual job.
Michael Irvin's good. That's right, Michael Irvin, you said, but

(40:23):
stop by? Okay? Cool? Um, So we got we got
more ball. Let's talk ball, all right, ball guys with me.
John Metelkoff, he's a former NFL scout. Like I tell
you to download things or buy books or whatever, only
good stuff. The podcast is called three and Out. You
can get it on the HERD Podcast Network or wherever
you download podcast. It's outstanding. Um, John, thanks so much

(40:47):
for spending time with us. You've had a great year
working with us. Is it crazy to say that the
forty Niners have the best depth of talent in the NFL? Yeah,
I'd be right up there. I'd say top four or five.
I mean, of the others, the Vikings have a legit roster.
Uh Ravens. Yeah, not as much, You're right, I mean
the Niners could be really, really freaking high. The Cowboys,

(41:09):
you know, in theory, should be pretty good. Uh, Patriots,
probably not as much. This year you say the Chiefs
went healthy, pretty good. Yeah, but yeah the Niners stopped.
When you've been bad duck for four or five straight years,
you started accumulating some high picks. Yeah. It's it's interesting.
It's like one of those, Um, you know that the
cliches of things that make us, you know that don't
break us, make us stronger. Well, last year, think of

(41:30):
what happened last year. It gave them another year to
kind of prep. It gave them better draft picks. Right,
they wouldn't have gotten. I mean part of it was
lucky to a c L. You know, That's what I'm saying.
It's bad luck, but the bad luck. Jimmy even mentioned
it a couple of weeks ago. It gives Jimmy more
time to totally understand the offense, but it gives them
more time to figure out who they like who they

(41:51):
don't like, and then they go out and draft Nick
Bosa and Deebo Samuel changes the changes them Deebo Samuel's
size and speed and versatility, and then Nick Bosa is
probably the best talent in the draft. Right, they have
no shot at either of those guys if if that
doesn't happen. I think sometimes too, when you have a
new coach come in, they like getting rid of all
the former players and to a detriment to their future success.

(42:14):
Like when Harbaugh got to the Niners. Now the players
were a little better, but he incorporated all the guys
who were already there. The Willis is the Bowman's I mean,
that was easy. But Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Vernon, Davis Crabtree,
and then added Kyle did the same thing with guys
like Eric Armstead, who I would have gotten rid of
DeForest Buckner was easy to keep, Eric Armstead was not,
Jimmy Ward was not, and those two guys are starters

(42:37):
on arguably the best defense in the league. And then
they had some mrs. You know that first draft with
Salomon Thomas not a good player, Ruben Foster was just
a disaster personally, and they just flowed pretty well off it.
Now big reason was this curveball they got out of
left field with Belichick called Kyle Shanahan and asked him,
do you want Jimmy Garoppolo for a second round pick?
No negotiation? So Kyle was like, yeah, let me think.

(43:00):
And really the only reason he had to think about
it just he was a free agent and they said, well,
they're just thing called the franchise dag and it was.
The deal was done pretty quickly. But that to me
ultimately because without a quarterback they might have been competitive.
They would have got Kirk Cousins and that that would
have won million percent happened if Jimmy Garoppolo was not
traded the Niners. Kirk Cousins would have been on the Niners,

(43:20):
and the Niners are not here now. Now they might
have become a good team and they could have become
a version of Minnesota, but they would have had a ceiling,
kind of like the Chiefs with Alex Smith, and I
think Jimmy with the Vikings with Kirk Cousins, that's exactly.
And it might not even looked as good because they
got Dixon Feeland and the Niners don't, so that helps
him out and Dalvin Cook, but the Niners have a
good run game. I think that Jimmy adds an element

(43:42):
to Kyle's game where he can use a robot quarterback
like Matt Ryan's the best version and win the MVP.
Matt shob for a long time in Houston, even Cousins,
but Jimmy has an athletic ability which I think he
kind of need in this modern day NFL because the
past rushers the last ten years have maintained elite players
coming into the draft, where the tackles and the guards

(44:02):
have not. You know, there hasn't been as many top
offensive lineman coming to the NFL at the last five
six years. Middle Our guests and the Dug Otlips Show
on Fox Sports Radio, Um, how much did three change
Kyle Shanahan's a coach? I thought it would a lot,
but I heard him talk about it after maybe a
couple of days after the NFC Championship, and he mentioned that,

(44:24):
you know a lot of people thought like I was
gonna completely change my strategy. He's like, I look back,
there are two plays that if I could do over.
It wasn't my whole philosophy. We were rolling, we weren't
running the ball. Well, it was just to places that
he goes specifically, So do I need to start from scratch?
A lot of people thought like I did the reset button.
He's like, no, And it turns out he's pretty knows
what he's doing. It was just the perfect combination and

(44:47):
not all his fault. Right. They gave up thirty one points,
but I think there was a situation in the game.
I can't remember what series it was, but they were
in field goal range, which would have made it eleven points.
Instead they got pushed back at state eight points. And
he's like, if we would have staying field goal range,
and that was the air the play call that led
to a holding penalty and got him out of field
goal range, Like, if we get it, And even the
Patriots have admitted if they kicked the field goal, I mean,

(45:09):
there's it's impossible times not on their side. So I
don't think it really faced him, and I actually think
it speaks to just how dominant of a coach he
really is, like to sink think about his high end
when he's on. He took Belichick to the ship. I mean,
I remember we all were watching that game on the couch, going,
this is insane. Not just that I put my kids
to my My kids are like maybe they can come back,

(45:31):
like they ain't come back, and they can't stop him, right,
And I mean, look what he did in Washington. You
know when they had r G three that first year
and he was running an offense that wasn't his offense,
but he ran more spread stuff to keep r G
three kind of happy and play to his strengths. And
that was a real that was a really interesting look
at at how he could even morph in that way. Well,

(45:52):
Kyle and Mike deserves a lot of credit to are
to me, deserve credit for influencing coach Read when he
got to Kansas and he hired Chris Alt, who was
Kaepernick's guy at Nevada, to developed the pistol and they
started implementing that with Alex Smith. So I think just
that before he even got to Atlanta, was opening the
eyes and the minds of all these offensive guys. I

(46:13):
think you kind of changed football. Now there's the pistols,
not as people aren't. Maybe Lamar Jackson is a small
handful of guys and you need a specific quarterback. But
he's had a big influence on the league for sure.
All right, let let's go to the other side. You
have uh Mahomes and I I do. I almost feel
like I've done this show before. I remember Denver getting
ready for Seattle and it was in New York and

(46:36):
everyone was talking about Denver and their offense and touchdowns
that year. And I was like Julius Thomas, like Marius Thomas,
like I remember the Bills high powered offense getting wrecked
in the Super Bowl. I remember, you know, Dan Marino
getting wrecked in the Super Bowl. People nobody talks about
the Niners defense. Niners defense was sick back in the day,
you know, like John Elway, who was arguably the best

(46:57):
guy I've ever ever seen quarterback for Pat Mahomes or
Aaron Rodgers. They go in the Super Bowl and they
they get wrecked. They come from behind a miracle win,
but the team wasn't great. Are we? Are we? Is
that a possibility? Not maybe not getting wrecked, but the
like the the cliche is defense wins championships, and uh,

(47:18):
that's a really talented front seven and fast defense for
the Niners. Are we kind of because we love Mahomes
so much, we underselling the idea that defense does well.
I think historically, when you look back at Peyton's teams,
his offensive lines weren't very good, and he could overcome
them because he was so good at getting the ball
out of his hands. The one thing Peyton does not have,

(47:39):
if we use that Denver team as an example, that
Mahomes does, is he can move around, so even if
he is getting chased, he can kind of keep it
alive with his feet. That's a huge element. I think
the coaching element with coach Reid is I think it
was Adam Gates the offensive coordinator that year with John Okay,
but I could I could do Bellis, I can do Belichick.
But when when they play the Giants, right, why did
the Giants beat them because they could not protect? I

(48:01):
think you're never gonna go wrong if you always lean
the best defense in the game. I just think that Mahomes,
and this offense top to bottom is somewhat of an outlier,
especially the way the play. How many touchdowns they scored
the last two games they scored seven in a row,
and then last week with it was four or five.
I mean, it's just and it's been with East, It's
been and I get these teams are a little flawed,
but they are doing it like it looks like a
preseason practice. And when this guy peaks, you're a little

(48:25):
older than me. I means when that guy is on,
I mean he's right there with Alway or far I was.
I was the chiefs for playing the Chargers first game
of season two years ago, and I was driving a
coaching a U game, and I'm pretty good friends with
Tom to Losco, the gentle manager of the Chargers, so
I called him to wish him luck, like, hey man,
good luck. It's like I screwed up. I would you

(48:48):
would you do? Said? You know, I knew my homes
is gonna be this, and my homes remember it only
started one game before, but they've seen the preseason tape
or whatever. It was the Denver game, the last game
of Alex Smith last year, and he was awesome yes,
and he's like, listen, we're gonna have to score thirty
to win today. Wasn't that game like twenty nothing at
half or something? Um, didn't the Chief score a bunch

(49:10):
of points? They scored a bunch of points. In in retrospect,
the Chargers dropped four balls in the end zone, like
righting their hands in the end zone, and and they
still came back and had a shot late and had
a good team that year. Yes, but it was more
like this at the time. Kid has it, like has
everything that you you'd want, And sitting behind Alex Smith,

(49:31):
they learned to become a pro refined some of the
other kind of you know, personal habits that weren't weren't
great reportedly a Texas tech you know, just laziness things
just college kids do. And I mean, I don't know,
are you watching the guy the best to ever do it? We?
Are we watching the beginning of a guy that's the
best to ever do Is that a crazy statement? I
don't think so at all, But I mean, you gotta

(49:52):
do it first before you gotta do it that there
is wouldn't you say that the hardest thing to do
is to sustain super high level play once you get
really famous, Like let's say he wins the Super Bowl
and he gets forty million dollars a year, Yeah, and
he'll get he'll get propped up as the best ever,
the best ever young player. Like to me, if he
can sustain that for like ten years, that would be

(50:12):
more incredible than this early run. Not that this early
run hasn't been mind blowing, but like what makes Kobe
or Lebron or or l Way. I mean, if you
can sustain or Peyton or Tom That's where it gets
really hard because it's if you talk to coach Read
right now, he speaks about Patrick Mahomes as glowingly as
he can as any young player and he's ever had,
and you just watch him the way he conducts himself.

(50:33):
He's a really high level guy. And I also think,
and I use this comparison sometimes. It's everyone used it
now with the Warriors, but I think when you look
at Stephen Clay and one thing Andy I think he
mentioned this to Peter King last week, that him being
around big leaguers and now it's a different sport, but
still being around the pros, you just look at it
a little differently. You just kind of there there's an understanding,

(50:54):
and I think you've seen that with Stephan Clay over
the years where they were completely unaffected by fame money
that their work ethic elevated, right and maybe, but sometimes
it goes the other way. It's I've never been given
forty million dollars. Is Tyreek Hill his his Clay? Yeah.
I think Tyreek and Kelsey two got together because I
think they're a unique Tyreek is the arguably one of

(51:16):
the most unique players in the NFL history, Like because
he's bigger, he's stronger than to Sean, he's probably faster,
he can do more. But having Kelsey over the middle,
so you've got a guy going deep and a guy
going over the middle, and then they add all these
three other track guys. I mean it's just I don't know,
have we ever seen an offense this fast out on grass? No?

(51:36):
I mean this this The Rams were fast. But I
think if you just we did a race, I think
these guys would smoke him. And those guys could fly.
I mean Tory Holt. Yeah, they didn't have a tight end.
Though they didn't have a tight but they had Marshall,
who's I mean, the Chiefs way better than anybody they
you know, anybody Marshall's better than Kelsey and Hill Marshall
players ever and they had that they had the best

(51:59):
left tie going football. That's what made the chief. But
again then we go back and we go back to
the original premises. Defense got them the second time. Right, yes, right,
they they come and they play the Patriots, and the
Patriots you know they didn't and dunk their way offensively
and just manage the game. And then that even the
Titans game was the final score, it wasn't like you know,

(52:20):
so yeah, these games do not They typically do not
look thirty five. Okay, last couple of speed things here. Okay,
who's the quarterback of the Raiders next year? Well, if
the thing with Rivers he's not coming back, they will
go heavy for him. Really, I think, I mean, if
you just the way Gruden's talked about him over the years,
I think they want I think Rivers and Brady, if

(52:41):
either one of them Gruden can get, he would take
over car. If you can't get those guys cars back.
I've I've I was told that the charges have not
made a decision on Rivers yet. Yeah, I mean, I
can't see Dean span I was just letting him walk
for nothing. That's not really their style. They may have
made an offer and he and he balked at it,
but I don't think they have not made a decision yet.
Um would they franchise him though they want to not.

(53:03):
I do not believe in his contract he can be franchised.
And then they got the Melvin Gordon. I don't know.
I don't know, because he's a pretty loyal guy. I
think I mean to him. I think he was. I
think he was really frustrated by last year. But I
think there's also a level of accountability. Like he was bad.
He was you know, the radar thing was a joke. Dude,
when he eight over eight and then last driving he

(53:25):
didn't yards but he had guys open trying to get
chunk plays and he didn't have to. It made no sense.
It's hard for me to feel sympathy this year, just
in the sense they did have a lot of weapons
for more than anybody else. I think they had the
best weaponry. I know you get more speed in Kansas City,
but the best weaponry in the NFL. When Melbourne was right, Okay, Um,
Jamis Winston, where's the quarterback next year? Well, that's the

(53:47):
other curveball would be would Arians want Rivers? Yeah? Arians
wants Rivers? Does Jamis go to Oakland? I could see
Gruden like and I could see Gruden really like. I
could see him like him a lot because he isn't explosive.
Any chance Brady leaves. I can't see it. The more
you see it, it's just is this just a negotiation
for another couple of years of guarantee money? Yeah? But
I mean are they at the point where they got

(54:07):
to do that type stuff? I mean, are we were
really at that level? I guess his life and his business,
but god, it's Tom Brady Now. The curveball with him
is he's forty three years old. If you if you
ask the head coach, you think the head coach would
be okay with him leaving? I think he would, Yes,
I think, But is this his decision? Robert Crafts already
said we're gonna keep him back. I think Bill would
want If people always ask me, what would Bill do?

(54:29):
I think he'd figure it out. He'd want that challenge.
Last thing, Um, how concerned would you be if you're
in that war room and you're the Dolphins and you've
been waiting all the time for Ta and they're like, yeah,
what's a hip at a hip with a quarterback? And
he what's your level of concern? I think it's such
an outlier injury. Yeah, I wouldn't feel good about it.

(54:49):
I mean, the one guy I know about it in
his career now, they've been adamant that this injury was different.
He bow played through it too. In the press conference,
was pretty comfortable. It looked like saying that I'm going
to be okay, And the doctors told me they never
truly know till the three month mark if he is healthy.
To me, he's the number two quarterback off the board.
I think when it's all said and done, if his
hip checks out, and the way Herbert just played at

(55:10):
the Senior Bowl and that Rose Bowl, we're gonna see
three quarterbacks go on the top five and in some order.
I don't think it's crazy that even the Redskins, I
get Chase Young's this great pass rusher. Maybe trade back
a couple of spots and still get Chase Young, and
three quarterbacks go one to three to a Burrow goes
to since he someone who goes to Dolphins, they trade
up and then the Lions could take Herbert. Chargers could

(55:31):
come up the Lions. What they do with Stafford, Well,
I mean he's back injury, he's been banged up. They
gotta win, I don't know, a little less likely because
they were kind of mandated by the owner. They got
to make the playoffs. But they could trade back, like
trade back couple of spots, accumulate some picks, try to
make a run with Stafford. Do you think the Chargers
like Herbert? Who wouldn't. I mean, he's a he's a
high level pros studs he's and he's exactly what they've

(55:51):
kind of always described to me. That to me, in
a perfect world, you would have Herbert sit behind Rivers
for a year. I think that's and I think that's there.
That's there, that's their goal. If they can have it,
is it get But they also they liked Tyrod Taylor.
They're like, look at Tyrod Taylor was the starting quarterback
for a year. We went we think we could still
make the playoffs. But you know, well, the big thing

(56:13):
that Philip hurts you with he can move around with
their offensive line. Philip Rivers cannot move at all at all,
at all. No, he's he said he's the worst. I mean,
he's just not a good athlete towards a cl Now
he's in his late thirties. So anyway, look, man, you
got a great year. I love following you and hanging
out with you. I appreciate love have you on Thanks
Man show rolls on Fox Sports Radio. Um, all right

(56:38):
from middle Cough will turn to a star in the
NFL who's tougher Niners or Chiefs. Stefon Diggs played against
both of them this year. We'll ask him, plus will
ask him about how how close he thinks the vikings are.
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If not for the Patriots winning a super Bowl, the
most memorable moment of it, last year's playoffs or two
years ago, two years ago playoffs, then we're getting old
with Stefon Diggs and the Minnesota Miracle. Of course, this year,

(58:27):
they lost to the San Francisco forty Niners in Division
round of the playoffs, and Stefon joins us here on
Fox Sports Radio. If you were to categorize or characterize
your year personally this season, how would how would you do? So? Um?
How about I would say, you know, I did my job.
I did what I was supposed to do. I do

(58:47):
what was asking of me at least, you know, um,
you know we were more running run first team, So
I just really just did my job, did what I could,
you know, to make everything shake That that that doesn't
that doesn't sound like I feel like I had a
great year. Yeah, I mean I feel like it was
a lot left out of it. I could have did
a lot more, um, but you know, that just wasn't
That wasn't really our scheme or where we were going.

(59:07):
So more so just kind of doing what I can. Okay,
So why like that? I've I've always I think everybody's
always respected your talent as one of the elite wide receivers. Obviously,
Adam wasn't healthy the whole year, So that that that
you've got two guys. When you go to the bathroom,
you got two guys on your UM. But it was
that was the plan even when Adam was healthy. Why

(59:28):
do you believe that was uh, just because I feel
like it was just a scheme. You know, we and
we installed a new scheme as far as like not
only being run first, but definitely being run first. Yeah,
we want to establish to run uh and kind of
play it off that like play action and play the
Kirk stramps and kind of like keep us in a
in a in a bubble towards trying to do everything

(59:49):
we can to win. You know, so for me, uh,
starving and starving those personal goals and kind of getting
good up for the more team goals over everything. It
did change, obviously when Kirk kind of apologized and oachny
staff and Adam said something about it, um, and it
felt like there was that there was uh an evolution
for a for a while. Is that fair? Is that

(01:00:11):
the plan going forward? We'll see. You know, it's just
kind of hard to gauge it because you know, each
and every game came be different and we didn't have
all our weapons majority of the season. You know, one
guy was heard or something was going on here and
kind of like for us, we our first time was
like in the Saints game and get the ball rolling
and they couldn't stop to run. They were going too
high a lot of the time and they couldn't stop
to run. So in a situation like that, we're going

(01:00:32):
to run the vall until we can't. You won. You
won some big games, obviously the Minnesota Americas the biggest
one or the most surprising one. What was it like
though your home stadium as well as New Orleans like
those are two of the best. Yeah, the silence, I
can't imagine the silence of that place when you won.
You can heard a pin drop. It was crazy, just
because you know, everybody counted us out, nobody all we

(01:00:54):
could win, underdogs, all this hooplah, you know about the
hoo blah what they say about Kirk and can't win,
and yeah, yeah, but we came in with a mind
said we're gonna be We're gonna be under dogs, We're
gonna brace the underdog, and we're gonnahow him that. We
came to play football at the end of the day.
And with that mindset, you know, Kirk came out and
play the hell of the game. People ignore the fact
that when he plays a hell of a game, give
him his credit. Yeah, it's it's it's a weird thing.

(01:01:14):
Uh did Kyle push off? Is that passe? It's so,
you know, I mean, I'm gonna receiver. I would never
say that. Those are like cursed words, basically in front
of the little kids. So basically it's three little word
the word. So for me, I'm just saying, no, it's
just some good hand play. I feel like this same
turn real rough situation far like with calls, just because

(01:01:35):
the previous year that was a flat just flat I'll
call it what it is, um against Los Angeles, but
it just seemed like their games come down to a
couple of calls and kind of go they don't go
their way or they do go their way. You know,
it's just kind of hard to say. It's it's crazy.
What my thing is on the Passengter ference review is
that usually the way it works to views to us

(01:01:57):
as the Lame Washington home is is those guys are
making they're taught right when that ball is in the
air or when they can't make contact, and then the
offense is having to break contact, and when when the
defense comes back in, it makes contact again, defense gets
called for it. But sometimes the offense pushing up and
sometimes you're pushing off because the defense is making contact right.
So it's it's like so tough. It's a tough about

(01:02:19):
to be in from an offensive player and a defensive
player because for us now, you know, when they even
with the install rule, far like the replay and far
like playing plays and touchdowns, not talking about a ten.
This year, when they replay the play, they didn't overturn it.
I don't care how you dressed up. I feel like
there was more than nine times. I think it was
only overturned twice the entire stay. They were living with
the call, you know, just because they made it on

(01:02:39):
the field. And I'm sorry, but nobody wants to be
wrong what I'm saying. And when you look at something
in real life, it looks a lot different when you replay.
So for me, it was installed for that. You know,
I'm saying how it's being used, it's not up to me.
But I feel like a lot of the calls were
just like you should just left it how I was,
How would you do in the chief scheme with the
Chiefs quarterback? I don't know that'd be interesting to see,

(01:03:00):
just because their quarterbacks run around a lot. He has
a hell of a arm. You know, it's just a
it's a way different scheme. You know. It's like everybody
has a different situation, and those guys are really in
an interesting situation. Past first officse Andy Reid, you know,
he's been around the league for a long time and
h he keeps it fun. He keeps it all the
bells and what was coming in front of you, and
he got Tyree Kit running for seven yards. You just
never know what you're going to get in the You

(01:03:22):
have a lot of guys the people that sleep on,
you know. I feel like he's a hell of a
hell of a receiver. He had some good games as
of late, and I think he's I just think he's great.
Sammy Walkers, people sleep on Sammy walking He's the first
round draft pick. He's half I'm saying he's he's a
hell of a player and he still is Like still
is that guy? Yeah? Nobody mentioned literally nobody mentions that

(01:03:42):
they get a bunch and they get the tracking meet
out there. It's just I mean, I feel like it's
a lot of guys that don't get a lot of credit,
especially on that team. Just some guys they played, They
played some hell of a ball. Um, what what makes
San Francisco's defense so good? Those front four, front seven,
those guys that those guys that you gotta block, somebody's
going to get home. And then their defensive coordinator is

(01:04:02):
drawing up players that they're buckner. And there's their linebackers
who I feel like I're underrated. You know, they fly
around and make a lot of his quantity and then
they make a lot of plays on and I feel
like they don't get enough credit. But they're from for
its crazy. Somebody's making it to the courtball. I don't
care how you dressed it up. How good is Richard
Sherman at this point in his career, He's still elite player.
You can't you can't ignorer one two things. You can't

(01:04:23):
ignore numbers don't lie. Um, he's still grabbing picks. I'm
saying he has a picks to prove that he is
active in a round the ball and catching it. And
he's he's perfected the scheme he's been in for the longest.
This is the same defense as Seattle. For me, I
would I would say, but to the salary and was
to his strength, And um, that's how he's He's just
he's just mastered that at his craft. You know, he's
playing at a high level at an older age. And

(01:04:44):
then you see guys playing at high level in a
year whatnoin it's not usually not usually like that. So
you actually obviously have to give him the respect he's earned,
what I'm saying, and give him, give him he's playing
some one of the best in the game. Who's the
guy this year that you were really that you that
you gained respe for a guy who who covered you
an entire game like man, that cat is pretty good
the entire game where parts of the the game doesn't have

(01:05:07):
to be the entire game, right, could be only when
you roll to his side. Yeah, um, I'm thinking the
name some guys that we played this year. I always
have respect for Davis. This is a guy that I
see two years to um, two times a year, and
he follows me everywhere, you know, no matter in the slot, outside,
inside backfield, I don't care how you dressed up. He's

(01:05:27):
got that. Always had to have my respect, and even
more so now just because he played at a high
level and I try to play at the high level
as well, and it's it's an ongoing battle every time
I see him. I love going against him, so uh not.
Really will have a little bit of conversation, but not
too much trash talk. It's just more so like when
I like how I am lined it up, We're gonna
figure it out right now, line it up. You're here
with Genesis. What are you doing with Genesis? Um? Well,

(01:05:49):
this evening I'll be unveiling their new car to new suv.
I think, yes, sir, you need you need to make
some phone goals, might get you one, you know. But
I'm in right around in the G ninety right now
getting the chauffeur. I feel kind of important. Yeah. So
so do you like that, Like, do you like like
driving yourself? Not even I'd be in a passenger seat
if anything. Okay, but if you had a choice, would

(01:06:09):
you drive or would you be driven? Because I can
control how fast I get to my destination? Right and
then okay, so now you have the choice with the
Genesis Sedan the G nine, which is you know, like
basically like a Limo or the or the Suv which
you prefer. I got Hi picked a STV just because
Minnesota's pretty Conna be out there. It's gonna be rough
without it. Yeah, heated seats and all. It's luxury, luxury.

(01:06:31):
The big thing is young and luxury. Yes, I would agree. Okay,
so your your role and somebody rolls in your car.
What are the rules for what they cannot do? Do
not test my radio ever? Do not touch my a
c limited talking, limited talking. Yeah, I'm like kind of
like you ever seen a movie? Loving basketball? Yes, after
the game, he likes to ride back home in silence. Yes,
I love to ride back in silence. Okay, a lot

(01:06:51):
of talking. Let's just enjoy this. So if there's a
guy that's like, miss it's we used to we used
to hang. I used to roll with you, Like why
would why can't? It's be because they talked to This
is tough later Yeah, yeah, text me and I'll get
there when I get that. Yes, that's Stefon Diggs in
the Minnesota Vikings. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, appreciates,

(01:07:12):
pleasures all ours A. Solomon Wilcox joins the show. Coming
next is Pat Mahomes the best player in the league
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pleased to have Salomon Wilcox who joins us here. And

(01:07:35):
you know, look, I want to get to the game,
but we're still kind of close to reacting. Wh where
you when you find out Kobe Bryant, you know, I
was here in Miami and I was with some friends,
and you're right, you'll never forget where you were. And
you know, I was born and raised in Los Angeles.
I grew up there been a Laker fan my entire life.
Going back. I remember when I was eight years old

(01:07:58):
going to my first Laker game in the days of
Jerry West's and Elgin Baylor, and we seem to have
always been able to come up with those great stars.
And I remember when Kobe Bryant first played for the Lakers,
I said, he's the next one. He's the next great
one in the long lineage of the Jerry West, the
Wilt Chamberlain's, the Kareem Abdul Jabbar is, the Magic Johnson

(01:08:20):
and now Kobe Bryant. So it was a huge shock
my kids who are now adults, young adults who we
lived in l A, we lived in Calabasas, and they
started texting me because they their entire lives. The guy
was always Kobe Bryant. Yeah, it's it's I think that's
why there's been such incredible reaction, and I think, you know,

(01:08:40):
his personal image is turned around greatly over the last
ten years to where he's beloved, you know, Nihili, He's
like a beloved fish. Didn't you get the sense that
in these later years since his retirement, he was kind
of in a happy place. He It's like he was
finding himself and you got the sense that his best
years were ahead of him and that he was prepared

(01:09:01):
to do some great work. Look, I lived through those
moments where the team was torn apart with Karl Malone
and Gary Payton, and when Shaq had to leave and
Phil Jackson had to leave, and Kobe was kind of
left us in the large thinking he's gonna go to
the Clippers, And yeah, I remember all those days, but
it's in so many ways we were able to put
that behind us. He seemed to be prepared to just

(01:09:24):
offer the entire city and even the entire Globe his
better self. That's what you kind of got the sense
if you were Tom Brady, what would you do if
I was Tom Brady and UM looked up and I
was the eighteenth highest paid quarterback in the league, knowing
what I've done, I'd look at a team like Tampa
with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. Well, so you just

(01:09:45):
asked me if I was Tom Brady, know what I do?
I know? But yeah, okay, but I remember you as
your wife. Well, he's gonna go where he can win.
I am you don't think markets. Don't think markets, think
about winning, think about where you can go to win from.
If the stories are true. Dog, she's a businesswoman. She's

(01:10:05):
the one who she's the one who's the fires who
says you need to get your market value. Well, she
also knows that it may not here, it may not
be in New York or l A or Chicago. Okay
that I mean she's she's a businesswoman. So this isn't
like a runway model where you can go over to
Europe and make your best buck. Okay, So here's a question,

(01:10:27):
and you've analyzed this thing for over two decades, is
he what is his real market value, not his name
and his success brings in an incredible amount of cash.
A on the other hand, like in terms of what
he actually brings at forty three years old, what what
is it in your in your opinion? In my opinion,

(01:10:48):
here's how the NFL works. Market value is driven by
desire to win, and it's even driven higher by the
desire to win now. And whether it's that mean, we
have a team that's ready, we need to go get
a quarterback, even if it's a rent a quarterback for
a year. He is he Philip rivers are the two

(01:11:08):
that are most available that you think could could actually
make that happen for you. So that's what's gonna drive
the market. And the market says that the going rate
for those guys who are that special, just like Peyton
Manning was a rental quarterback in Denver. Sure it's the
top dollar. I'm not saying he'll get thirty million, but
for one year, oh absolutely, because you but he is.

(01:11:32):
He is has enough equity and enough credibility where all
you need is one team to bite of that apple.
And I think with Bruce arians, I think, given what
if you look at what their defense did one year ago,
and you look at the offense in terms of how
they're constructed. I'm not saying they are quarterback away from
winning championship, but long as they believe it, they would

(01:11:53):
pluck down the money for that one guy. And I
think Tom Brady is that one guy. I think it'd
be more Rivers because he's more comfortable in the area
that That's my my opinion. But I and I respect yours.
I agree with you. I agree with you in that
Brady would be great. I guess my question with Brady is,
here's the difference that Philip Burr has had two different
play callers this year, like Tom Brady, with exception when

(01:12:15):
Josh was gone, He's always had that one guy. How
hard an adjustment is that Bruce Arians? If you knew
Bruce Arians like I know him, like Kurt Warner. No, look,
I know he's like the whisper, but no, but we're
kind of guy. No, I know. But what about just
the verbage and the way Brady does things? How how
different Brady is smart enough and been in this game

(01:12:35):
for twenty years? Do you think of verbage is going
to confuse not him? But it's not. But what if
we always see him. What we see when guys go
to what's the hardest thing in New England is finding
wide receivers who can get up to speed. That's because
a brilliant guy. Because of the mental Rolo decks that
you have to have. Thomas played in that system. Most
teams they carry over sixty of the game plan each

(01:13:00):
every week. The Patriots don't. So because you played in
a system like that for twenty years, that means you're
mental rolladex is. This is different. This is not like
going from checkers to chess. This is going from chess
to checkers. And that's why people will come to the Patriots.
They're not used to the volume and and the diversity

(01:13:22):
within the offense from week to week. So because Brady
is used to that, there is no place he's gonna
go where it's going to be more complicated than where
he just left. Let me ask you about pat mahomes
Like I said, you son, this, you've played it, you
know it really well. Is there anything missing? Like are
we missing something? Because all of us are watching, we're like, Wow,

(01:13:42):
he's smart, he's a leader, he's athletic, he's accurate, he's
got great arm strength, he performs well so far in
tough moments right there, trailing in playoff games. Granted at home,
now the road, we'll see the super Bowl. If anything,
we're missing that he needs to add to his game,
just more experience, you know, just seem more like for
for instance, when you throw the ball laid over the

(01:14:02):
middle of the field, that's a bad thing. Andy Reid
allows him to do it because he's been successful at
doing it. We're gonna watch some games in the future
that's gonna come back to buy them, because that is
a rule that typically has not worked well for quarterbacks.
He's gotten away with it, and and I think when
you have a larger sample size, I think some of
them will come back to buy them. So his talent,

(01:14:26):
I think has led to some moments where he is
extremely confident. You and I both know that I don't
care what you do for a living, what sport you
may play. There there's some life's lessons in moments of
humility that are waiting around the corner. That's that this
is by the law of averages, right. But at the
end of the day, I just think that you've got
to play him with coverage, not pass rush. In other words,

(01:14:49):
rush for drops seven forced him to you to be patient,
don't give him the long ball, forced him to be
a dincon dunk guy. That ain't That's not the game
he wants to play. And what happens is typically and no,
I haven't seen many teams to be able to do it.
Most teams, most quarterbacks, excuse me, aren't patient enough. They

(01:15:10):
don't want death by a thousand cuts. They want to
gash you with big with big bombs, big shots down
the field. That's how he's lived, that's how he's made
a reputation. If you force him to play differently, we'll
have to see if we see some chinks in the armor.
So far we have not seen that from him. It's
really remarkable. Um. The last thing, the Niners feel like

(01:15:30):
a tremendous all around football team, both lines, um, running backs,
coverage on the back end. Correct me, you have a
Hall of Famer, you know back there in in in uh,
Richard Sherman. Is Jimmy Garoppolo good enough to win this game?
I see I think he is. And you said, wells
Oliman will, how can you say that? I think we
have examples from that New Orleans Saints game Superdome against

(01:15:52):
Drew Brees where he got in a shootout and want
it and drove his team the length at the field
to kick the game winning field goal with a game
on the line. Now, it took a of George Kittle
dragging of free safeties and defensive backs right and another
penalty flag to help with that, but he had the
ball in his hands. Last, he drove him the length
of the field in a shootout on the road, which

(01:16:15):
you and I both know that was one heck of
a game. Was one of the better games all season.
So we've seen a couple of moments. I even, um,
go back to the week seventeen game at you know,
on the road at Seattle. That was a big time win.
So he's he's shown us a few of those now.
And this guy remember his first year in San Francisco,
we won five six games a row as a starter.

(01:16:35):
When that team was done, they were horrible and he
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(01:19:24):
never roomed with Kyle, like I refused Chris him messy
and I'm a clean free Okay. So wait, wait? You
first met Kylin right after my freshman football season. He
transferred in from Duke, and you know, we had like
one of our first in and I was doing the coach.
You didn't know him before that. I did not know
him at all, not at all. I met his dad

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a few times before that, but i'd never met him.
I knew who he was really only through like NFL films.
If anybody goes back and watch that Packers Broncos Super Bowl. Uh,
the guy that's holding Mike Shanahan's wires behind him with
the pimbles all over his face, that's Kyle Shanahan. So
when I've and I was like, oh, yeah, I've seen
you before. Okay, So what was he like then? Like, okay,
so he was did he play? He did play? He

(01:20:07):
did wide receiver. He played. And I'll say this, Doug,
I think if he if he comes like ten years later,
he might get a cup of coffee in the NFL.
Like that kind of guy. He was a slot receiver,
but like, nobody used the slot receiver in like two thousands.
There's a very few teams, right, it was very few. Yeah,

(01:20:28):
they they were one of the few. You're right, one
of the start of it. And uh so we didn't
know how to get that kind of guy at the
ball all the time. But yes, he did play. He
was a phenomenal route runner. You know, he really actually
rubbed off on the rest of our football team and
it was a psycho like psycho worker just like he
is now. That's why he's great, but tremendous energy. And
you know because he worked with guys like Ed McCaffrey

(01:20:50):
and Rod Smith and all those guys like our wide
receivers love Kyle because he would teach them things about
route running. And then there he was, you know, we
get him one on one and we had some I mean,
back in those days, we were legit Texas. Quentin Jammer
was our starting corner is number six pick in the draft.
I mean we we had studs all over the field
and he would go out there and dice them up

(01:21:10):
and one on ones because he would just set them
up with his body movements. He was good that way. Okay,
as you progressed, you're an NFL starting quarterback. Um, he
goes into the into the coaching side. When you got
done playing. You went and coached for a year with
the with the Patriots, why not go coach with him? Yeah?
You know, I don't think they ever asked me to.

(01:21:31):
I think this is one of those Text him a
lot and he doesn't get back with you. You know what,
they've worked out. Okay. So he was also with me
in Tampa my my year two and three of my
career when I was a starter there. He was the
quality control John grew him. One day, walks into the
quarterback room. He's like Mike Shinahan just called me said

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he'd rather have his son worked for me rather than
anybody else in football. I think I'm gonna have him
be the quality. So he was there with me too,
and I was like, oh, that's great quality from people
who don't know. UM is basically like you're the right
hand of the head coach once you bring all the
tapes back. Depends yeah, you're you're you. It depends a
little different in every organization. But the quality control is
going to do all the dirty work for breaking it

(01:22:12):
down on either the offense or defensive side of the ball. Right,
That's what I did in New England. So if you
know week one in New England we were playing the Jets.
In week two we were playing the Giants. I was
on week two. Why everybody was on Week one. Yeah,
you had to go in the state, even film people
for they were funny. That's funny. Uh But yeah, that's
what all stuff, all the good stuff. But yeah, that's

(01:22:34):
what the quality control guy is in charge of breaking
the team you're about to play down. So when the
coaches coming to the office on a Monday morning, it's
already laid out there. They got something to look at. Okay,
this is their coverage, this is what they do. Blah
blah blah blah, and you go from there. Okay, so
I'll just tell you like, how so you're a player's son,
a great players, super Bowl champion son. He's a coaches son.

(01:22:55):
I'm a coaches son who played. And it's interesting because,
you know, my whole life we used to go to
games when I was in high school and trying my
dad and I figure out, like what offense the team?
Who could figure out what they're running first or two cuts? Like? Um? So,
like was he always uh dood on a napkin? Guy?

(01:23:18):
Was he? Like? Where does where does this all come from? Yeah? Well,
um okay? So, I mean we always talk football, we
really did, and you know, he was starving for knowledge.
You know, That's why I think he went to go
work with John Gruden. First. You know, not only did
he already have a good base from what his dad did,
but then he stole stuff from John Gruden went on
to Gary Kubiak, right. I think the big thing is

(01:23:40):
that here's my big dad ran his dad's stuff exactly right.
And people gave Kubiak a lot of the credit for
some top five offenses they had when he was in Houston,
and Kyle called the plays, and I think that led
to Kyle sometimes being hated on a little bit. Between
that time, and then with his dad in Washington. But
but this is where I think he separated himself. When
I was in Tampa and like the starting quarterback, seven
o'clock at night, I'm getting ready to go home, right,

(01:24:02):
I'm walking through the facility, whatever it is, and I'd
look in the defensive meeting room and Kyle would be
in there, sitting on the floor in the back of
the room. We had an unreal defensive staff, Monty Kiffin, Uh,
Mike Tomlin, Rod Marinelli. He was just a decordinator of
the Cowboys, Gus Bradley, decordinator the Chargers. I'm missing, Joe Barry,
the defensive coordinator the Rams. I mean, they were all

(01:24:22):
in this room together and Kyle would sit there and
listen to them teach defense. And this is to me
where Kyle became. Yeah, he's he's fearless and what he
designs as a play caller. But Doug his understanding of defenses.
Like I think if Robert Salid got sick and was like, Hey, Kyle,
I gotta go. I'm my deathbed, I gotta go. Kyle
take over the defense and he wouldn't miss a beat.
He could coach both sides of the ball. He's like

(01:24:43):
Belichick that way. But he learns the rules of defenses
and that's where he exposes people. You know, so through
his offensive side. Oh, if he gets you in a formation,
If he's in a formation and he knows you're apt
to play, okay, you're predictable. You play these two defenses.
Every time I'm in this formation, he's gonna come up
with players that are gonna attack the rules of that
defense and have players go on the sideline. But kind

(01:25:04):
of like coach going coach, but you told me, if
this guy does this, I'm supposed to do that, And
he'll find out the way to expose that to where
the player doesn't know what to do, and then the
coach has to change the game plan. What is it
the Andy Reid does that's been able to be so
successful with so many different quarterbacks. Fearless innovation. I think
that's the big thing. A lot of coaches, and I
think you know some of them, their ultra conservative people.

(01:25:26):
They're like, I mean the most conservative of Like you
could be like, hey, coach, I love this play, could
we run it? And they're all, uh, nobody's ever taught
it to me. Uh, you gotta show me twenty clips
on film and you want to be like, okay, but like,
what's what's that gonna do? I mean, whatever you know,
I don't. I don't know about it. Well, how are
we ever gonna invent any new plays? Coach? I don't
understand it. That's you know, I had coaches like that.

(01:25:47):
I want to say, like what, we gotta try something
every now and then then we'll tinker with it. And
he's fearless. Andy's does crap where you know, I can
turn on film sometimes and go, I've never seen anybody
run that pattern of routes with three received. I've never
seen him do it. But because he understands defenses, and
then he's just like, hey, I'm smart, I know ball,
I know the rules. I'm gonna do something I think

(01:26:07):
might work, whether he fell into it in practice or
whatever it may be. And then he just learns how
he wants to coach with it. It's it's interesting you
talk about Chris Sims, our guest in the Doug Gotli
Show on Fox Sports Radio. You talk about using people's
rules against them. That's really what's happened in basketball. If
you if you look at how how the game has
has changed. Now you watch a lot of teams. It's

(01:26:28):
kind of a European design where you drive to the
base sin you passed to the other side corner right,
but you actually you'll actually screen that man. You know,
what's what's called the hammer action, right where the guys
at the top of the key and you're on the wing,
you drive to your own baseline. Meanwhile, there's another guy
that screens from the opposite side to the top of
the key. Because defensively, you're supposed to be in between

(01:26:49):
the ball and your man, right, So why try and
throw it straight to you when I can put over
you or around you and then you'll be wide open
by screen. Your same kind of concept basketball, and now
we use your defensive rules against you. Okay, So um,
let's let's start with the forty Niners offense. That was
as thorough and ashapen as I've seen. Right, it's just

(01:27:12):
you and I talked about it last week. The inability
for the Packers to set the edge was kind of embarrassing.
Some of it was a mismatch and some of it
was I think coaching mismatch. Um, what about this Chief's
defense and the Niners? How did the Niners match up
with what well like last week. I think it's a
perfect example of Shanahan realized that they were inferior on

(01:27:33):
their interior with Green Bay, and I think he knew
that Patton would overcompensate that by trying to put like,
you know, all his defensive lineman in the bare front.
I think we talked about this on the show last
week where he had the guard the two guards in
the center covered by d lineman. So I think Shanahan
was expecting, like, you know, Patton is gonna be worried
about his interior defensive tackles who were definitely a downfall
of the Green Bay team, and he came up with

(01:27:53):
all these outside design run plays to screw them over
to where, yeah, guys aren't setting the edge like you're saying,
But like Zadarius and Preston Smith got blocked in that game.
I bet you a few times where they're like, nobody's
ever done this to me, Like guy didn't block me,
and then the next guy blocked me, and they Shanahan's
creative that way to kind of screw them over. Kansas
City is different one because Spagnola is creative, but too

(01:28:17):
they got great depth on their d line and size too,
I mean real size. You know Panell Nandi, you know
of course Chris Jones. Um, I'm missing somebody else. They
got like four or five pound guys where they're not
gonna have to worry about. Oh, we're gonna get like
smashed mouth up the middle. We're good there. And I

(01:28:37):
think that gives him a great advantage. And then also
the flexibility of Chris Jones to be able to play
defensive end where they can put two big guys in
the middle, put another three pound or at defense end,
and they have Frank Clark is the week's I d
n That's where they have a chance to at least
slow down the run game and then maybe put the
game into Garoppolo's hands. Okay, help me out, because the
layman in me says, wait a second, you're talking about

(01:28:58):
all this size isn't whole art to the to the
inside outside zone that they have athletic lineman uh that
that that can get outside and move and just get
angles on the sitest, whitest size. Well, because Shanahan too
has got more than the inside outside zone, like just
like you saw last week, He's it starts with the
inside outside zone, but he's capable of um branching off

(01:29:23):
and really being a man demand blocking, pulling guards type
of team too. Now, size is good. Hey, the Tennessee
Titans are inside outside zone team. That's what they were
killing everybody. But you go back and watch the Ravens game,
you go, damn, it's the same three runs over and
over again. That's just all they're doing. But size compared
with athleticism. So, like you said, that outside zone. If
anybody I don't I'm trying not to get too technical here,

(01:29:44):
but you know, if you're a defensive tackle and your
job is between the tackle and the guard and control
that gap, right, well, Kansas City last week did a
great thing in the Tennessee game. They stopped saying, like,
stop shuffling down the line of scrimmage, just to stay
in your gap. Like, if there's a gap there, just
start pushing up field and go for the ball carry.
That's what the linebackers did too, So they stopped like

(01:30:04):
going horizontally down the line of scrimmage. They just saw
holes in their defensive front and said the running backs
probably gonna run through there. Let's run through there. Let's
not worried about it like we're exactly right in the
gap and ready to do that. And they have a
good way of doing that. They have a good size,
a blend of size and athletics of them to go
with it. It's like the big guys I'm talking about
Pennell and Nandi and Jones. They're not like you know

(01:30:28):
whom I want to say, like you know, but no
they're not. They're not. But they're also not like the
three fifty pound Vince Woolf for I can't move either,
you know what I mean. They're a little bit in
between that. I guess that was what I would say.
So they have a nice blend to being able to
take on the power game yet be athletic enough to
move in the zone games. Um, Yes, to a degree.

(01:30:50):
I think they'll struggle with that in this game. I
do because I think it would be so worried about
the run game at Chanahan's gonna find little ways to
sneak kettle out in the past game. You know, can't
city they dabble in. Man, They're not gonna like live
in it. But a guy like Tyrone Matthew if they
feel like, okay, we think it's second and twelve and
here comes the pass game finally. Yeah, I think he
can give Kittle issues and and Spags will do w

(01:31:12):
he will do it. He's he's he will go Okay,
it's it's it's second and fifteen. I know they want
to go to Kittle. I'm gonna make him throw somewhere else.
I'm gonna double him and take him away like a
Belichick or whatever, and let make them beat me with
somebody else. He's not afraid to do that either. How
can the Niners slow down Pat Mahmes. My My thought
is like, look, he's put up numbers, but I feel

(01:31:34):
like we're kind of collectively walking into the same trap
that we walked into with the Patriots against the Giants.
We are right, what you have this, you have this
great pass rush. They can get to you with four
and everybody's saying, the only way we can win is
if you can get to that guy. So you're like
rabbit and foaming at the mouth by the time the
game comes. Like I remember doing the Super Bowl in
New York with the all you might talk about was
Peyton wins another one the offensive offense and I picked

(01:31:56):
the Seahawks. It was like the defense hello the defense
right team game? Yes, and you go back to you
go back to the when the not your Dad Giants
Hostetler Giants team? Right, but that was the bull the
Bill's offense, right, but it was it was the defense
of the Cowboys that, I mean the Giants that dominated
the game. The Ravens both times they've they've won it. Um,

(01:32:18):
is that what you foresee because you do have you
have all these weapons, all the shiny stuff. You got
a great play caller and a great quarterback. But can
they protect him? This will be all right? I mean
have not seen a guy like Mahomes all year, but
I can promise you Mahomes hasn't seen a d line
like this either. And I think, like the parallels you
just made, I think are very real. I really do.

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And the Kansas City Chiefs can protect. To me, the
game is going to come down to just that aspect.
Can their defensive line get pressure and then okay, the
players where they don't get great pressure and Mahomes wants
to float around and dance back there, can they close
in on him to where he doesn't have enough time
to make a forty yard laser down the throw or
turn up the corner for twenty seven yeard touchdown and
something like that. I think they'll be able to do that.

(01:33:01):
I think he d Ford and Bosa and those two
tree trunks from Oregan in the middle are unlike anything
they've seen. And that's where I lean forty Niners in
the overall matchup before the split splenectomy, you were Gruden's guy.
You're Gruden's guy. What does he want? Gruden wants a
guy who I think has got a lot of personality,

(01:33:21):
can control the locker room, have guys gravitate towards him
that way, but also can be a jerk in a
good way to to be yell to yell at players
have that balance of like, hey, you're my guy, but
you just screwed up. What the hell you're doing? What
do you like? He wants that, and then he wants
a guy that, Hey, I got a lot of offense
and answers, but when my offensive answers don't work because

(01:33:42):
I'm not always gonna be perfect, I want a guy
that can make a play for me and get me
out of a jam. And I think that's where the
two things. I look at Derek Carr, who's done a
really good job I'm not sure if he's always gonna
make that play to get you out of the jam,
and he does not that personality getting what I'm saying.
Those are the two don't worry about there. So yeah, Rivers, Winston,
h Brady. I don't see anycause I think Rivers and

(01:34:08):
Brady Brady get But I don't know if he really
I mean, like they're not athletes. I don't like he
He wants guys like a move um. And I think
those guys would go to anybody who says they love
if you just show them love like they feel. I
don't know, but I don't see with Jamis, Like who
else could it be? I I just don't think he
would trust Jamis. I don't know either. I don't put

(01:34:30):
it outside of them to make some sort of play
for the draft either. I really don't. I would not
put it outside them. You know, I do think that,
you know, we know, we know our guy Joe Burrow
is gonna be one. But I do think this. You know,
Herbert is solidified a lot of people's minds and what
they saw on the Senior Bowl last week that he's
a top ten pick. So Brady stays if you made me, bet, yeah,

(01:34:51):
I'm gonna say yes. I think with McDaniels end up
staying there, that increased my thought of him being there
as well. But the big thing is gonna be the
money situation. To me, is he really does he want
to go somewhere and like feel like he deserved to
get paid thirty million dollars a year because Bill is
not going to do that. Just in my history, Bill
will not do that. So he's not a thirty million
year He's not. He's not. So if they offer him

(01:35:13):
eight teen, is he gonna come back? I don't know.
I would think if he wants to play, I would
why not? It's New England. They're so close still as
we know, they get a wide receiver and maybe one
more defensive linement and we might be here in Super
Bowl fifty four and it's New England again. So I
don't would you really want to go somewhere and rebuild
and do something like that? Joe Montana, who had success
going to Kansas City, said he shouldn't go anywhere, and

(01:35:34):
he got traded. It's not like he even wanted to go, right.
I mean, they knew the writing was on the wall.
Every writing was on the Wall. Last thing, do you
have incriminating pictures for Kyle when he went to Super Bowl?
Like you can hold against I'm gonna hope my friends
take a few this week after the super Bowl at
least like hold those against that. But I got nothing.
I have a whole lot of stories I could tell

(01:35:56):
to be incriminating, and he knows that. But you know
I'm a trustworthy friend. I won't go there. Chris Sam's
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he's the Hall of Famer, he's Michael Irvin. Of course,
you can check out the playmaker on the NFL Network
in the NFL Game Day Live, over eight hours of
pre game coverage leading up to the big game. Um, Michael,
thanks so much for joining us. You're obviously a celebrity
because of who you are. But what's it like to
be back at the place where you start in college,

(01:37:19):
at the you you know what, and and and this
is a great city. It's just one of the greatest
cities in the world. Man. And I love Miami. I
always tell kids that that I talked to all the
time because they're trying to tell me I got a choice.
When what school I'm gonna touch to? What tell me
your choices? Well, it's West vijr Uh said, stop, I said,

(01:37:39):
you just answered your own question. You're telling me your
choice is West Virginia or Miami. Let me so. So
you so the next four years, if you go to
West Virginia and you tear it up, I mean, you
play great, you win three national championships. When you leave
in four years, you're never going back to West Virginia.

(01:38:01):
So you get four years of West Virginia and that's it.
But if you go do this thing in Miami and
you play great and you win championships in Miami, when
after four years you're still going to go back to
Miami or your family is going to mind, you get
to live off that for the next forty years. Think
long term, not small term, not short term. That's why

(01:38:23):
why would you not pick Miami over some of these places. Man,
It's the greatest place in the world. And if you
can play football and get here to play football and
own this city, now you own own something. It's a
it's a series of great points that you made, not
just about Miami, but about what you actually get from
the start room that you build in. Right, you're not

(01:38:43):
right here in my family. If I can call people now,
it's hey, man, you know I'm my brother here, my
sister here, and niece him and nephew there. Can you
help him get a job Michael for you? Yeah, you know,
because they remember the great days. They remember the great days.
And there nobody's going to West Virginia or any place
like that. So I can't use it. After I'm done playing.

(01:39:03):
It's not about so, so go to go to a
place where you can use them, not just them use you.
Ask about the death of Kobe Bryant. Oh my god, First,
where were you when you found out? Actually, I was coming.
I was going through the airport getting ready to fly here,
and and somebody called me and told me. I said,
I stopped playing. Man, you know no, Man, I I said, man,
I said, that's probably not even real. And he said,

(01:39:25):
you know what, let me check on it. You're right.
I should have made sure before I called you. And
then so he hung up the phone and then he called, right,
Basin might no, it's real. And I'm telling you, man,
there was that's there was just a sinking in the heart.
And you know it, man, we know it. I see
it all the time, because you know, you deal with death.
It's just the reality of life. But and and every

(01:39:47):
time somebody dies, I always say, look at this man.
The world just keeps going. You know, no nobody stops.
The world just keeps going. But with Kobe, I felt
like the world should have stopped. And and honest sleep
the response that you got, it felt like the world
stopped for a moment. Everybody felt the pain of losing

(01:40:09):
Kobe man and and and and it was just said,
it said, man, you think about his daughter and everything.
It's it just hurts. It really put a cloud over Monday,
and and really even a day. And it's starting we're
starting to try to lift and even get back the
laughing something. But but but it's been hard. There there
is something though about his life, and there's a bit

(01:40:29):
of a mirror with yours, right everybody in there, you know,
early in their twenties, you know you're trying to kind
of figure it out and you're thrust into I mean,
you were a superstar on the biggest stage on Earth,
winning super Bow after super after super Bowl, and because
we as fans or when their media members follow you,
you know, there's a tendency to to dwell on bad moments.

(01:40:51):
But but he turned, he turned a corner, and there's
there's a part of you where you know you had
your own ups and downs, but now you're kind of
a blow of it figure and people remember the greatness
and the great plays and enjoy your personality. What is
that like to be a part of tow to have
your kind of personal evolution and and be be such

(01:41:11):
a big figure though everybody watches you go through, And
what you're talking about is really walking out your life
in front of everybody, growing in front of everybody. Some
people because they don't do what we do. You know
what what Kobe did, um or into a list degree,
what I do, what I do playing ball football, they
don't do it. So they get to have those quiet

(01:41:33):
moments to grow and mature and to velop, to develop.
You don't get those quiet moments. Kobe didn't get those
quiet moments. We grew up with Kobe. We watched when
he shot air balls and when he was just got
fresh out of high school, eighteen year old playing and
I remember when I when I saw him shooting these
their balls in that game and Utah, I said, oh
my god. First of all, it took such guts to

(01:41:55):
make that, to take that shot as a young kid.
You know that that will either make you a break you.
I remember, as God is my witness, I remember saying
that kid's going to be one of the greatest of
all time because he had the guts to take the shot,
and you know, and he came back and took another one.
He ear bald head, so you knew that was going
to push him. But but yeah, watching his whole life

(01:42:16):
and to an extent, people have watched mine. That's why
I'm okay with being open and talking about everything this.
Every time I see a young picture of me, I
just want to slap that fellow around a little bit myself.
I want to whoop his tail for spending some of
my money and some of the decisions he made. But
the reality is, when I think back to that young fellow,

(01:42:38):
he thought he really knew. I know now that he
was a dumber, but he thought he really knew then.
And it's just funny to watch the evolution of it
and maybe who you are and what you are today
if not for those those experiences, these people connect to people.
I'm telling you because it's cause of the struggle when
you because because now they he said, I'll listen to

(01:42:58):
you because I knew you went through something. Yes, and
now I want you to tell me how to come
out of what I'm going through right now. It's amazing
how that happened. I want to talk just just very
quickly about this game. You have Pat Mahomes. But we've
we've seen this before, Okay, we've seen whether it was
your you know, your Cowboys teams and against the Bills,
where the best offense comes in and we're so enamored

(01:43:21):
by quarterbacks, whether it's Peyton a couple of years ago
against Seattle, whether it's the Broncos and John Elway um
the Patriots when they lost to the Giants, and you know,
like cliche is like defense wins championships, it does feel
like we're the the that weapon of Pat Mahomes and
all of those wide receivers and Travis Kelsey Titan against

(01:43:43):
a real legit team that's going to get after him.
Is that and sometimes we've seen it. What's interesting now
is these new rules, the new rules really helped that
offense now really helped you. You bring in the the
one defensive playing them one offense, so you be a
great defense, great offense, especially when you can separate from ball.

(01:44:04):
Back in the day, you can separate from ball with
this kind of speed that they have now on on
Kansas City, and the rules that they have where you
cannot touch a receiver, you gotta give him an opportunity
to catch the ball, you know, defenseless receiver. And then
you got a guy like Patrick Mahomes throwing that ball. Man,
it's a phenomenal. I want to I hope people understand

(01:44:24):
what you're seeing with Patrick Mahomes. You're seeing an evolution
up at the position. We watch as Larry Bird shot
that perfect form three pointer, and now we see as
Steph Curry barely touches the football, touches the ball, and
and and Pat ma Holmes has taken a quarterback position
kind of like Steph Curry took the three point. And

(01:44:44):
he's throwing all and throwing looking over here, throwing that way,
all the things that you used to do to get
tips from from your quarterback. Let me watch his eyes.
He's looking over here, throwing over there now. So so
it's a great gift and a blessing to watch it.
I I do like what San Francisco is doing on defense.
I love what Boats did. I watched this kid in

(01:45:05):
high school and I can't wait to see that matchup
between boats in my home. All right, last han, I
know you gotta run your busy guy. Um. The Cowboys
plan appears to be right, keep everything intact. Me I'm
I'm guessing they're gonna resign amory and find a way
to get to get dat as well. Right to keep
everything offensively, same play caller, you bringing Mike McCarthy and
then defensively Mike Nolan's gonna change some things that maybe

(01:45:27):
do you like? Do you like the plan? I like,
I like some of the playing, and I do think
bringing in uh, bringing in Mike McCarthy is a good idea.
What was a good idea? Because this team needs someone
that has traveled the path right so they can believe
in the path that they're traveling. So you can't say
I trust me I've done this unless actually, how can

(01:45:48):
I tell you what I do not know? How can
I take you where I did not go? And he
has gone there, so now they he won't put a
fear in them, but maybe they'll gain a reverence for
and follow him because they have the skill set. I
believe they have the talent to get there. And I
like that they kept telling more that just had his

(01:46:08):
best year. Let's not scrap everything and then throw a
whole new offense at him and get him starting over.
Let's make sure we're magamiz, bring in making amalgamation of
what old offense was, what you wanna do, and grow
him to that new office, not just throw him in
that new offense. He's a Hall of Famer, he's a playmaker.
He's back home. You'll see him in the NFL network.

(01:46:30):
He's Michael Irvin. Thanks so much for joining us. It's
always good to talk with your buddy. Always good man.
Keep doing your thing, buddy, I will. I will not
do anybody else's things, so I will do my thing.
Thank you, Michael. All sorts of news from around the
NBA and NFL will share them with you. Part of
the press live for Miami. This is the Doug Gotlip Show.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

(01:46:50):
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific,
Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Let's get some stuff
that's going on currently in sports. Let's get to the press,
Dan Buyer, what do you have? My friends. We're gonna
start out with some NBA stuff. Mark Times of the
New York Mark Stein of the New York Times says
that no NBA teams that played on Sunday had actually

(01:47:13):
requested to not play that day after finding out the
news about Kobe Bryant. What mark Stein says did happen
was teams just ask the n b A if media
would not be allowed to talk to players prior to
their contest, but only after the games played on Sunday.
So no team said that we didn't want to play
on Sunday. They all went forward with their games, and
obviously we saw the different, uh different ways they honored

(01:47:36):
Kobe with the violations. Yeah. I mean, like, listen, I
think they should have played tonight Lakers Clippers would be
cathartic Lakers home game. Like that's all those fans want
to do is come out and show their love and
appreciation and it's a way to kind of mourn together
and healed together. I think the NBA made a mistake.
I think it was a little bit new jerky, like
are you ready? Like no, probably not ready for a game,

(01:47:57):
but you know what, they're not can be ready Friday either.
That's the truth. I do think it would be it
will be a bit easier Friday. I'm finding it somewhat amazing,
and I think a lot of people in their own
regards are as well of of gist of I mean,
how this is sticks with them. Sometimes you get a
night's sleep and you feel different in the morning. So

(01:48:18):
much of the reaction I've seen is that hasn't happened
on Monday morning, That hasn't happened on Tuesday morning. People
still deeply affected by this. I do want to pass
this along. The l A County Corners Office says that
the site is cleared. All nine bodies have been a
counted for and have been removed from the site, but
that from the l A Corner's office. Earlier today, The

(01:48:39):
Athletic reports that some NBA players who were either number
eight or number twenty four are planning on retiring their
numbers in honor of Kobe Bryant, Spencer Dinwiddie of the
Gnats changing from eight to number twenty six from Southern California,
and Terence Ross of the Magic switching from number eight
to number thirty one. Ross is not I think he's
from Seattle, but still, um yeah, I don't Again, like

(01:49:02):
I've heard people say, like let's let's there's a petition
two million signatures whatever to have them be the logo.
I was like, there's a lot for me. I mean, listen,
Kobe Bryant obviously became a bigger than life figure and
it's a massive loss for you know, for this, for
for for the sports community. But dude, I think we're

(01:49:26):
going we're let's just take a breath. Let's just mourn
all of the victims, celebrate Kobe's life, Gianna's life, Peyton's life.
It's one of the other girls, So is an Alyssa's
life and their parents, and worry about that stuff, and
then we'll figure out what's what. I don't think we're
changing the logo of the NBA just yet, that'd be
my guest. The NFL Network reported that the San Francisco

(01:49:47):
forty Niners paid for a replacement field at the University
of Miami after the team deemed that field unsuitable for
practice prior to the NFC Championship Game. Dug To shed
a little more line on this. Ian Ramp report reported
that both the NFC Championship Game prior so they had
somebody come out and do a s yes, and both

(01:50:08):
teams said that the site was unsuitable to practice on.
It then went to the University of Miami and they
said that they were not going to change their field.
So then it was up to the forty nine ers
to either go somewhere else or take betters into their
own hands. They took matters into their own hands and
replaced the practice field that they will be working out.

(01:50:28):
It's amazing, you know, they didn't have Miami didn't have
an indoor practicility till like this year, just till this year.
They just got one. But they're talking about the out
They want to practice outdoors because they're gonna play outdoors
in the Super Bowl. Ah. Yeah, that is kind of amazing.
You'll always have to when you play in you know,
New Orleans, Like one team gets the Saints facility and
the other gets like two lanes or something like that. Uh,

(01:50:50):
the Dolphins facility is not anything glamorous, and just people know,
may I've been there when the Super Bowl was in
l A. And maybe they'll have one of the the
Rams have their and that's that's actually maybe a better
option as well. The Fox Sports Jay Glazer clarified his
comments yesterday. Doug, you're on this one, the reports came

(01:51:13):
out the Glazer said that Philip rivers uh window was
closed to return to the Chargers. Glazier clarifying today saying
that his opinion is that Philip Rivers will not be
back with the Chargers next year, but he was not
reporting that. So to your point of the Chargers still
maybe keeping their options open, it was an opinion of
Jay Glazer and not a report. Yes, um, I think Look,

(01:51:38):
Jay is really smart, he's really connected, and I'm guessing
that he's hearing that that thing is done. I can
only tell you that my source and the Chargers say
they have they have not decided that they have not
closed the closed book in any way in any way.
But that doesn't mean that Jay isn't right, because Jay
has a ton of really good sources. That's what he

(01:51:58):
does for a living. He's done for twenty year, and
it could be just as his feeling of maybe something
that he's heard or or said, but isn't ready to
put a report down on it and say that this
is what's going to happen, because there there is a
difference between the reports and an opinion, that's for sure.
Even when you're an NFL insider. The Athletic reports that
Fox Sports has made it known to Panthers tunan greg

(01:52:19):
Oldson that if he retires, they will hire him as
an analyst for the NFL coverage the Athletic. The Athletic
reports that Fox has said that the Fox Yes, yeah,
I mean he was great on doing the games. It
doesn't surprise me at all. I would love it if
Greg Olson was on the Athletic. Everybody else is. You know,
I thought you said, I was like, who care? Why
would you leave the NFL? No, no, offenci the Athletic.

(01:52:41):
But you can do that while you're playing in the NFL.
John Ramos was just hired by the Athletic to cover
the happenings of John, Suzanne and their three children. So
there it is. So for the latest on the Ramos family,
let's go to the Athletics, John Ramos, John, what's the
latest on your family? We're all doing good. Dan. There
it is straight from the Athletic, John ram Mos, your
Ramos family. Insider for the Athletic. Pro Football Talk dot

(01:53:05):
Com says will Drew Brees contemplates retirement. The Saints want
him back in with Taysom Hill taking over as the
starting quarterback in season would serve as a transition year,
according to the report, where Breeze would help Taysom Hill
blend into that starter role and then Hill would take

(01:53:25):
the keys to the car at the start of season. Yeah,
it's it's fasting on how this is, like, all right,
they kept Bridgewater one next year, overpaid to keep him,
and now they're like, okay, we're done, but they want
to hold on to Breeze. Really interesting. Does tell you
a little bit of what they saw in Bridgewater made
more than anything. I also think it's interesting as well

(01:53:46):
because Pro football Talk dot Com said that, you know,
Breeze is really thinking about retirement. For as great of
a guy that Drew Brees is, maybe he doesn't want
his last season as one of a passing of the torch.
You know, maybe he wanted his last season. I'm like,
we're gonna go. There's not that he will definitely do. Uh,
he will do TV when he's done if he wants to.

(01:54:07):
You know, he's also he's also got all those boys. Yeah,
you know, free to watch super Antonio Brown freed from
house arrest restrictions today despite his arrest last week on
charges of burglary and battery. I brought this up in
the update. You laugh, But A b says that he
still thinks he has a shot at the NFL returning
not gonna happen. Yeah, I don't see it. I mean,

(01:54:28):
a guy, such a mess, such a mess. Finally, do
you know, I mean, do you think that the NFL
is gonna even if he did, the commission put him
on the exemple list, He's not gonna play for a year. Yeah,
but I think there's a good chance he's done. Astros
could be close to making Dusty Baker their manager USA
today first report it contract details not yet. I am
all time great guy and the best manager in baseball

(01:54:51):
until the game is played. The way he moves his
toothpick from left to right, right to left, left to right,
right to left. Thank you for the Angels? Was the press?
All right? So things we've discussed today, don't I thought
the Lakers and Clippers should have played You said probably
easier Friday. I'm not saying it wouldn't be easier. I

(01:55:14):
just think it'd be better, Like let's get let's get
back out there. It's like my kid, my daughters when
they ride horses. You fall off, get back out in
that pony, and let's let's let's let's get you up here.
I think they thought would be cathartic. Um tomorrow it
really starts to crank up here. We had a great day.
By the download the podcast Long Talk with Chris Simms,
John Middlecoff, Michael Irvin, uh stefon Diggs, was was really

(01:55:36):
kind of telling and good. Didn't feel like he was
all in on the way Minnesota plays offensive football. Tomorrow,
cow Hurd will join us, Shannon Sharp will join us,
Teddy bridge Ware will join us, Chad john so oh,
Cho Sinko will join me. Get some thoughts his thoughts
on Antonio Brown, So we got a lot together. He's
well you will find out right here on the Doug

(01:55:58):
got like, if that a stunt? Does he really a kicker?
What's his range? You know? Who has he been training with?
All this different stuff? So it should be a should
be a great day, should be a great, great day. Um. Look,
we continue to mourn the loss of Kobe, but we
seem to have kind of turned the corner. Doesn't mean
you can't think of your loved ones. Today It's Doug
Golic Show, Fox Sports Radio, has the best sports talk

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