Drew Brees will be back in 2020

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we got a little bit more on baseball and the
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As Drew Brees announces that he's not going to retire,
Boom of America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Ray Deo
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Doug Golip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, I
want to talk about Drew Brees. The announcement that he
made over Instagram in a moment, I do want to
start with this. Yesterday, Ralph Irvan was sitting in for
Dan Buyer and he kept talking about the Daytona and
it kind of got embedded in my brain so much,

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and I was like, you know, it's on Fox, I
might as well watch a little Daytona. So I'm broadcasting
in New York and the way it works, and I
don't know if you care about my lifestyle, but you know, generally,
when I get done in Los Angeles, I race home
and I got my kids and I figure out my
my day, my life. But between what they're going to do,
whereas I'm here, I got a little more. I have

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nothing to do other than at some point I have
to sleep because I have a four thirty am meeting
for a six thirty a m TV show. So it
sounds like, oh, you've got nothing to do but three
hours of radio, three hours of TV. You have meetings
for both or whatever, and you're pretty well fried. So
there's a place that a gym I go to workout.

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It's really nice, and I was like, you know what,
I'm just gonna go and I'm a set up shop there,
took a subway. I get up and I just so
happened to grab something to eat and sit down and
watch the dayton of like and and and I end
up watching like the Last Lap, and I you know,

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I believe. I I believe in God, even more so
now than maybe ever before. I mean, there's other moments.
And I believe in the brilliance of men and women
that work on safety. The idea that Ryan Newman is
alive today is incredible. It's it it's it's just incredible.

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I watched that, and of course they bring up the
black tarps and you're like, oh gosh, please know. And
people are being critical of the said Denny Hamlin celebration
where Denny Hamlin didn't run him in. You know, he's
simply you know, drafting and racing and ends up winning
the thing. But no one knows what to do, nor
what and you're like, you're you're waiting on word, although

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you just you don't want to know because you think
the worst and hope for the best. I don't you
know outside of people who designed these cars to be
safe and the guy above, the being whatever above, Oh,
Ryan Newman being alive is nothing short of a miracle,
nothing short of a miracle, and I can't believe. I

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was watching it and then I I tweeted the video
and my wife like, what are you tweeting that video?
You're treating a video somebody who might be dead. And
then thankfully he's not. Unbelievable. Let's get to the story
of the day. Drew Brees puts this on Instagram. I
look forward to the grind and the journey for the
reward at the end will be worth it. Love you,

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hashtag who that Nation. Let's make another run at it now.
Drew Brees announces what we thought was kind of a
bit of a foregone conclusion, like I don't think we
thought he would definitely retire, but this is this was
a little bit of dragging it out. He needed a

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little bit chance to recharge and to reevaluate, not just
the kids that he has. I'm sure there was an
offer to do television at some point. Their star players,
Alvin Kamara, Cam Jordan's Michael Thomas all under contract. This
news essentially clears away for Teddy Bridgewater to leave in
free agency. Taysom Hill will remain as the backup, and

(04:48):
the change of pace eventually becoming. You know, he's still
the air apparent. He's a free agent, which means the
Saints had the right to match. Although it's gonna be
really interesting. How do you you know what what will
his salary look like? Because I don't know if he's
a starter elsewhere, even though they believe he's a starter.

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And it's gonna be curious to see how he finished
his career career because I feel like Drew Brees is
making a mistake. I feel like he's making a mistake.
I feel like he's chasing it. I feel like he's
running it back. Now. Run that back is an expression
that comes from pickup basketball, and you guys play pick

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up basketball. When you play pick up basketball, you know like, hey,
we're gonna go play. All right, let's go play. I
grew up playing at Miles Square Park, which in Found Valley, California,
or playing at thirty eight Street, which is a Newport Beach,
californ just off the beach. You know, then you go play.
I've played games at St. Joe's College in West Hartford
or Connord High School in West Hartford, and I think

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of all the different places that we play pick up
A twenty four hour fitness Equinox or whatever. And it's
great when you have a group in we're on the
text chain, like all right, Sunday morning, Sunday morning, we're
gonna play at Weston High School in Connecticut. That was
That was the the game. When I moved to Westward, Connecticut,
there was a game at Weston High School and actually
had to the two court deal, which I hate. Just

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play one court, fifteen guys, let's rotate in whatever. But
they had too many guys on the email list. They
played too And there's nothing like running the winner's court.
Like you run the winner's court and then you get
towards the end and you keep you lose by a
bucket and you lose by a bucket and it's like

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you started at eight. It's like ten o'clock. You had
a good sweat going. You know, you're thinking about your day.
You you loosen up your shoes. You know, maybe you
took your shoes off, you got a sweaty top on,
You're like take it off. You put your T shirt on,
you put your sweatshirt on, getting ready to rock out
the door. And there's like nine guys on the court
and they're shooting and they're doing that, they're doing the

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count thing. A couple of guys walk out of the
gym and you realize there's like, now either ten guys.
Maybe there's twelve guys in the gym, but there's two
guys that like, no, I have to go or my
wife's gonna kill me. And you're sitting there and you're
saying yourself, we should I want to win that last game.
I don't want to end the loss. You know, the

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worst player in the court just jumps up, he hits
a bank shot from three from straight away, like, I
don't want to lose that way. I want to win
my last game. And all the guys come on, black
wa will We'll play eleven straight, Blay eleven straight, No
boy two's we'll get this thing done. And you're like,
all right, what the hell? You start lacing back up

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your shoes, tie them up, take off that sweatshirt, in
your T shirt. I'm just gonna play like this. Let's go,
let's let's run. What happens when you run it back?
The game is never the same. It's usually sloppy. Somebody
always gets hurt. I mean, look, think about what happened
with Brett Farv and I know Brett Farve thought abou
retiring three times, and it was only the third or

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fourth time when Brad Childress went and got him out
of Mississippi and brought him up to Minnesota. But they
had lost in the NFC champiship game farvara thron interception
and they felt like they were close to the next year,
Farv gets hurt, his street comes to an end and
the metro Doome literally collapsed. That actually happened. Like, I
can give you a bunch of advice on pick up basketball,

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but the number one piece of advice is don't run
it back at last game. Somebody always gets hurt. You
never leave with the same feeling. Even if you win
the last game. You're like, man, that was raggedy basketball.
This is not good now. Maybe he's thinking to himself,
Tampa is still not there, Carolina is rebuilding. You know,

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Atlanta is not any good. Our division can be had
we get to the playoffs. He gives it another shot,
and you know, I mean, we lose on a on
a blown tackle two years ago in Minnesota, on a
blown call at home to the Rams, on what we
think is a blown call in overtime to the Minnesota Vikings,
where this close. Let's just run it back, Let's get
to another super Bowl and let's le let's let's end

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out on top. I don't know, running it back is
a who And and Breeze hasn't been great at the
end of the last couple of seasons just hasn't hasn't
been great and seems to have faded. And last year

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Teddy Bridgewater because he got hurt, got to take over,
so he should have been fresh. I just look, I
don't I would never tell a guy to retire because
Drew Brees he can play as long as he wants
to play, and he plays in the dome, he plays
with a great coach, he's got a good team. They're
all in on him. Like the whole thing. I get it.

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You feel like you're that close. You keep getting that close.
You're knocking on the door. Let's kick it in next year, okay,
but you keep running it back and eventually, eventually it'll
catch up to you. Eventually somebody gets hurt that last
pickup game, and even when you do win, it's like, yeah,
I mean, I guess Peyton Manning is the is the

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is the guy is the reason, right, because Peyton ran
it back, wasn't even good, lost the starting job, but
he did win that last game. He did go out
as a champion, right. But people need to realize that
that is the exception. It didn't work that way for

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bread Fare. That didn't you know, uh, you know, I
don't know what happens with Philip Rivers, but consider the
amazing season he had two years ago. This year he
was a walking turnover. Eli Manning kept coming back, trying,
this is the year we're gonna fix it. We're gonna
fix it. They couldn't fix me. He's going to be

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in the Hall of Fame. He's a borderline Hall of
Fame quarterback. Eli Manning couldn't fix it in itself. It's
a really hard thing to do. And and I understand
that Drew Brees is in a different situation than those
two because he's coming back to the same team and
to a team that was really really good and he
wasn't bad, you know, considering um, you know, considering he

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was hurt and he only played eleven games to throw
for nearly three thousand yards, to throw twenty seven touchdowns
and only four interceptions. You know, you can't really find
fault for a guy saying he's got But when you think,
thinking that long and hard legitimately about hanging him up,
I don't know. Running it back to me sounds like

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the wrong plan feels like the wrong plan feels like
to me, you're chasing that one last victory because you
got a bad call or whatever. Last year. He is
able to get some rest because of the thumb injury
that that end up kind of recharging him. And even then,
offensively they ruggled against the vikings. They struggled late in

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the year year before, he seemed to have a dead arm.
Late you're not getting younger, You're gonna get older. That
arm will get heavier late in the season. I just
I know it's being met with celebration because everybody, myself included,
likes Drew Brees and you don't want him to get
whatever you do. You don't want the last game to
feel like a call decided who won. And that's the
way they feel. A bit or a crazy play that

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last three years, all craziness, but running backs of dangerous thing.
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a app kind of feel like Joe Burrow is, Um,
we've all had this right like we want to be
And I don't know how you are, Ryan or or

(12:45):
Dan Buyer Ramos, like I'm generally not affected by what
other people say, Like I don't. I don't care. I
can form my I'm a big boy, I can form
my own pinion. I don't really, I honestly don't care.
On the other hand, as much as all of us

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want to to to make our own decisions, to judge
who we like, who we don't like, and what we
like on our own, UM, I would also kind of
point out at some point it will have an effect
on you, you know, whether it's a girl I don't know.

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You know she used to date. I mean, we were
completely unfair as men, and she used to date a
lot of guys in college. Like okay, well you date
a lot of girls in college. Why is that? Why
does that matter at all? But then all of a sudden,
you know, you sit down and you just start thinking,
You get thoughts, you get plan in your head, and
you can't get out of it. I feel like That's
where Joe Burrow is the girl in this case. Is

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is the Cincinnati Bengals enough people you know, enough people
that keep telling him you should pull an Eli. You
should pull an Eli, you should pull an Eli Manning. Right,
that's what people are telling him. I mean they're legit
telling him. Um, I mean, Joe Burrow said, I do

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have leverage. No, no, you don't, dude. He went on.
The Bengals have their process. I have my process. We
haven't even gotten to the Combine yet. There's a lot
of things that are happening leading up to the draft
and a lot of information gathered. Right now, I'm focused
on being the best football player I can be. I'm
in this unique spot. You can go watch film. I

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don't have to prove myself at Pro Day at the combine.
Uh So I'm in a unique spot where I can
focus on getting ready for the year. M h. Steve
Barkowski is a former first overall pick. He said, they're
Ohio guys, and I might have offended them by telling him,
but it's the Bengals. I think I'd pull an Eli Manning. Yeah.

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By the way, like the idea of the Eli Manning
who ended up going he's probably gonna go to the
Hall of Fame one too. It wasn't like it ended
up bad for Philip Rivers, Like this is totally lost
in this thing, Like Philip Rivers end up just fine
in San Diego and in l A and wherever he plays.
You can play, you can play. But while people will

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point out in Cowards pointed out smallest scouting department in
the league, owned by an eighty two year old owner,
you know, an unproven coach. Yeah, okay, I get that.
Fit does in fact matter, But you do have You're
gonna have a rebuilt offensive line, and you're gonna have

(15:50):
Joe Mixon as a running back. And you'll see if
you have a j. Green. If you don't have a
j Green, you'll have You'll have plenty in his in
his place, you have others in his place. I just
but here's the biggest thing. The leverage that you think
you have you might have with thirty one other teams.
I don't believe you have with the Bengals. Joe Burrows

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twenty three years old. He's already sat out a couple
of years because ah he red shirted and when he
was and didn't play, when he was at Ohio State,
and he was clearly rusty last year when he played
and it took him while to get up speed and
in a great year this year. Do you think he
wants to not play for a year And you can

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tell me all you want about well, you know, it's
just all about leverage, Like he doesn't have any leverage
because this is not the team to mess with. This
is not the team that does that, cowers to it.
We also have to remember they got Jonah Williams, who
didn't play last year. He was the um what was

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he the like the eleven pick in the draft of
the Bengals, like they will rebuild the line. He's worked
playing for an offensive coach. I get and respect Carson Palmer.
He works out with Jordan Palmer, and I'm sure Carson
and Jordan be like, man, you don't want to play there.
But do you know how long ago? How long ago
do you think it was that Carson Palmer played with

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the Bengals. Take take a guess, Ryan Music, without looking,
it's gotta be nine years ago. You're going nine almost
over nine years ago, it was. He last played for
the Cincinnati Bengals in two thousand and ten. Now, the idea,

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he's not wrong in many of his I mean, obviously
is not wrong because he lived it right. But he's
not wrong in that the Bengals still have some fundamental
flaws that that are a problem. You can't get away
from him. But it's also fair to point out that
in that time, in that time since Carson Palmer has

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been gone, they've been to the playoffs some of times.
Over they've won the division twice. You know, and Anne Dalton,
who I think we would all agree is a very
average quarterback, very average quarterback, as average as he is,

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you know, they were kind of a perennial challenger to
the Steelers and to the Ravens in a very difficult division.
And you know, like, okay, so these teams that need
a quarterback need a quarterback for a reason. You can

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sit here and tell me he should pull the Eli Manning.
But who would be the team that he would go
to that be better? The Miami Dolphins. Why are we
convinced the Miami Dolphins would be better? Explained to me,
like somebody the Washington Redskins. They they've been like teams
are bad for a reason, bad for a reason. But

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the big thing is you can try that leverage thing
with anybody. It doesn't work with the Bengals because they
don't care. What you don't like about them. That they
operate differently is in their wives strength. And they're gonna
draft you and sit to you if you have to.
They'll play the long game. Don't believe me, look at
their history. Be sure to catch the live edition of

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Brock heard's played in the NFL. He comes from a
football family, covers it for for Fox Fox Sports Brock.
You know, like Burrow is not saying how excited he
is at the possibility the number one overall pick to

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play for the Bengals, which leads many of us to
believe he doesn't really want to be a Bengal. Uh First,
in terms of how he's handling it. What do you think? Well,
I think this is the card you play right now.
And you know these decisions are not made in a
vacuum but one of three year old guys. These decisions
are made with your team, with your agent team, with

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your marketing team, with everybody around you. That's one of
the things that has changed so significantly in the years
since I was drafted way back. These guys are business
entities and and and there. They don't have to wait
five or ten years in the league. They're their own LLC.
They've got a huge team around them. This is no
longer just Joe Burrow and it owers around in the

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meeting room trying to figure out how we're going to
do this, how we're going to market ourselves, that we're
going to present ourselves. There's a team around him. It
feels like this is the card to play right now.
And you know what, CINC now is difficult place. I
think it's one of the most difficult places to sustain
success to be a young a young player. Um, you
know Curson Palmer, I'm sure is his brother, Jordan Palmer

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is is in his ear, is given him plenty of
wisdom in guidance as well. So yeah, I don't have
a hard time with him starting to play this card
right now. I don't either. I just you talk to
anybody in the NFL like that, great, It's just that
won't work with the Bengals. They're gonna draft and don't care. Yep,
they don't care. Yep, they don't care. And you know,
if they're gonna sit out an entire year, that's probably
the card that they'll lay down and they'll play right back.

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So ye're not a not a wonderful situation for the
most incredible college football season at quarterback as I had
to be sitting there, Lucky and I don't know when
he started looking for his family from looking but going O,
come on, Bengals, win games, Come on, Andy Dalton, win
some games to the second day, and I don't want
you guys to have ultimately that number one pick, which
they do have. Okay, so but at what point do

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you go like this, it's not smart. You're spoiling what's
gonna be a long time relationship. You know, like that,
this is not why we want to how we want
to get into a marriage. Um, hey, I I you
know you don't want an arrangements like hey do you
want to? Okay, fine, I guess like you're numbering over
a pick kid from Ohio comes back a champion. I

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feel like it's bad advice. Here's here's the genius. Here's
the genius to Eli, Eli never said anything out a
word now I know times have changed, is twenty years later.
But Eli never said a word. Hell, he never said
a word when everybody got fired when they benched him,
but it happened. I think that's the mistake, is that Burrow.
You can say whatever you want and then work behind

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the scenes. If you want to get traded. Yeah, I
would couldn't to agree to that. And I think the
hardest part if I were to put myself in the
issues you know, as that twenty three year old guy
from Ohio, um, you know everything that that went down
to the Heisman with the reason of money from the
small town that he's at. Just that the collective rust
belt there that has some incredible fans are dying in
thirsting for someone else his count and it's ilk to

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come in and the kind of change they're fortune much
like well, the folks in Cleveland wanted Baker Mayfield a
couple of years ago, and he said, I think so
much of the goodwill that Baker created at that time,
saying no, man, I want to go to Cleveland. I
do want to turn this thing around. I want to
be the fourth and the agent of change there. I
think that would be the hard thing, especially as an
Ohio guy and having that Ohio blood and put seeing

(22:58):
four Ohio in that background. Owned to me, that would
be some of the most difficult because you're not endearing
yourself with those people and with that fan base. As
you said, being as outfront and vocal as you are, Brock,
you are joining us Fox Sports college football analyst and
NFL analyst. Um, if he wasn't from Ohio, would he
be You're not If you're the Bengals, you can pick
any quarterback in the in this draft, he would have been, Oh,

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it would be Joe bro Yeah, there's no no question
about that in my mind what he did to just
elevate people around him. You know, we're doing this at
this XFL the last few weeks, and there's been all
sorts of conversation about quarterbacks and everything else in the
quarterback play and can it grow and can get a
little bit better and and I sort of hope it
does because there's lots of other pieces of this that
are just awesome. I Mean, these players are so into it.

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The fan base up here in Seattle was just rabbit
and incredible scene on Saturday, and you know, ultimately, and
I talked to June Jones about this and our trustman
about this. You know, quarterback guys, there's just something about
a quarterback and that elevates everyone around him. There's something
about a point guard. It just makes everybody a round
him better. When that QB walks on the field, he
walks in the meeting, when he walks in the huddle,

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everybody is better. And there was no quarterback that did
that more in college football last season than Joe Burrow.
And it really has been some time when and I
think a case can be made Doug for what he
did to that school, that traditional defensive and run the
ball school, to totally change that culture and elevate the
entire system around him. Yeah, there's no question he's the

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number one pick. What do you think about too? I
think he's a a I think he's a special thrower
of the football when I kind of accuracy and anticipation
and to make that throw if he did as a
true freshman on that stage coming out of the second
half locker room and being called upon, you kind of
knew it from that moment. And you talked to anybody

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that worked with him throughout high school, and I know
you talked to Trent Built for quite a bit in
the elite eleventh circuit. I don't know if there's many
that made waves as significant as he did. Is just
a thrower of the a ball with that anticipation and accuracy,
so that will carry he will move into this league
that demands that the call of her to that position,
he would scare the heck of me, heck out of

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me dog with that body, though, a body that's already
been a bit beat up, you know, a body that
you know has taken some punishment and not necessarily responded.
It's not as if at Alabama, you know, he played
ten games a year where he's taking punishment, right, I
mean there's three or four games the entire season is
actually getting hits. And to have been knocked around the

(25:29):
way he has the last couple of years, and just
the significance and the known of that hip injury would
certainly concern me an awful lot. It would be as
well justin Herbert, you know, some people thought, you know,
would have been a top three selection last year. Comes back,
has a lot of success. He checks so many box

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in terms of what a star quarterback is supposed to
look like. Is there something missing? Yeah? I just don't
think he's a super naturally a guy. You know it
remin finds me of a couple of Pack twelve guys
that have come on in the last I don't know,
a decade or so. You just look at it, Marcus
Mariota being one. It's at that school. But they're just
not an innate natural accuracy. Everything I said about tah

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I think he's a naturally innate actor pastor. It's like
it really is like a picture that just has that
command to grow it. There's fundamental things that can develop it,
but there are just certain guys that have that shooting cut,
that have that command, that have that accuracy. And I
think you look at Jake Locker was in my neighborhood
who was a tremendous athlete and in a really tough

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dude and someone you wanted to route the heck for,
just like Mariota, just like Herbert. But I kind of
lamp all those guys to me dug together and just
saying I just you know, Jacobson, I'd probably be put
in that same boat. You knows. Just there's just not
a natural innate cut inaccuracy. And that concerns me because
at this stage of the game. For Herbert, there's not

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a mechanical flaw. There's not something that want more reps
more time, you're just going to totally change that. But
to me, he's just not an innately anchorate guy, and
therefore I'd be really uncomfortable. It's my wagon is a
top ten franchise pick. The measurables are there, the signs
is there, and loticism is there, the smarts are there. There's,
like you said, you can check a ton of those boxes.

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And to me, those guys used to girl like Andy Dalton,
you know, in the highest second round. But today they
get drafted and they get pushed up into that first
round and maybe he goes somewhere in the twenties, you know,
to a better team. Um that that you know, feels
like they can offset some of that a little bit
like Josh now in the Buffalo Um they can offset
some of those accuracy issues. But to me, that's kind

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of where I would feel most comfortable taking him. Procut
our guests in the Doug Gotlip Show, Drew Brees coming back.
It feels a little bit like running it back in basketball, right,
Like I get that you you know in Minnesota is
a crazy miss tackle, and then the rams of miss
call and then last year over time and maybe you

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miss caall I didn't think it's a miss call whatever,
But you get to where like maybe I'll cay just
run it back one more time. That usually, like can
pick up basketball. Somebody always gets hurt, like we remember,
remember Brett Farve, Right, like Brett Farve, he gets hurt.
The dome literally collapsed. Um, I know everyone wants to

(28:21):
go out like Peyton Manning in terms of winning, although
he didn't play well that season for the most part,
to win. Do you think it's the right decision for
Drew to come back? I do. I think it though
it is probably a one year deal because I think
he's looked at that arms training over the last couple
of years and just the ability to really push the
ball down the field again at June Jones, funny little
story from week one and he's talking about boy and

(28:43):
he said, in our system, man, every quarterback he's ever
had and he wanted it right now with this p J. Walker,
every guy that he's ever had has had the best
seasons of their career in June Jones system. And he said,
I made you know, not I even saying it's personally
said the system made the Bear a pro bowler when
he could not throw the ball over forty yards at
that stage of his career, at the very end of

(29:04):
his career. And I think Drew Brades can throw the
ball over forty yards, um, but I don't know how
much over sixty yards he's from it anymore, or fifty
five yards. But he does have Michael Thomas, he does
have a head coach in play caller than those every
thing about Drew inside and out. He's got out Kamara,
he's got a good offensive line, He's got enough pieces
there and enough senses about him does to say, Okay,

(29:26):
we'll run it back one more time. To use your
basketball analogy. I got three, dude that I can distribute
it to here, and I don't have to carry the
all show. And oh, by the way, I could still
run the pick and roll like John Stockton all day
long to Michael Thomas and Camara and the rest of
these pieces, and we'll give it one more good shot
at it. If you were advising Tom Brady, what would

(29:46):
you tell him stay in New England? Yeah, I would,
you know, I would like to see that whatever you know,
I think the owner would like to see that. And
you know, obviously Tom I think has incredible relationship with
that owner. That's already been shown. We've seen some of
that history. Plus the last time around, um, you know,
when we were kind of had a little bit impast

(30:07):
year we grew up Brady and what they're gonna do
and who is gonna win? Well, Brady and Robert Crafts
are gonna win. And I would think it just makes
too much business sense for everything that they have done
and everything that they have accomplished in this road that
they have traveled is the greatest of all time to say,
okay again, let's run it back one more time. Now,
give me two or three of these elite receivers in
this draft, because there are, Daniel Jeremiah said, the deepest

(30:30):
wide receiver crew we have ever seen in this draft,
with guys that can get up and go and and
and kill. Hear, maybe year two that light bulb goes
on a little bit more. You give me an elite burners,
get me another tight end, You give me a couple
of these pieces and signed bout the defenders, and let's
run this back at least one more time, if not too,
but I would certainly love to see him finish a Patriot.

(30:52):
Philip Rivers, where should he go? Indianapolis? Yeah? I used
to go to Indianapolis with that defense, in that in
that onfensive line. Uh, you know, with with the difference
makers they have upfront and Frank right, is I Thinke
a tremendous play caller that I think would understand at
this stage of the game or Philip at that And
if that Indianapolis door opens, I think that's the door

(31:12):
you run through quickly. Okay, Jamis Winston, where should he play? Well,
he got his eyes fixed. I don't know if you
saw that. So now, yeah, he's no longer He's no
longer going to throw thirty interceptions. I'm gonna this is
there's gonna be a very curious market. So the first
time and O Withdrew Ball. We'll see ultimately with Philippier

(31:33):
or what kind of happens as we get around the
combine and many of these things start to happen. I
I don't know how many doors are going to open
to a guy that just does not take care of
the football. I think that that will be a tremendous challenge.
We'll see what Bruce Alliens one of his own, I mean,
is the guy that knows him from this season and
whether or not they make a run. So if I
was Damas, I would hope that my hometown team that

(31:54):
I just invested the last four or five years in,
I would really hope that that phone call comes first
and foremost, because if it doesn't, there's gonna be some
other quarterbacks in this draft, some other quarterbacks in this
free agency cost. There's gonna be other quarterbacks in this
period here that I think you're going to get phone
calls before he does. Yeah, it's uh, Kenny Bridgewater, Carolina.

(32:15):
I mean, you know his l s U has, you
know their play caller who was with the Saints, and
he goes to the offensive coordinator, like I know how
quarterbacks want to know what they're doing before they're ever
doing it. Does that mean Carolina makes sense? Then? I
think so. I think a Cicaga was a defense is

(32:36):
this year, like I'll take care of the football kind
of the antithesis the guy we just talked about that
puts the ball in harm's way at all times, and Damis,
I think a Bridgewater this year on blemished, like the
supporting cast around him, took care of the football, played
to that system as he did in Minnesota, and you know,
can can Chicago And ultimately they'll make a decision on

(32:58):
Mr Bisky. Can he way to that same run game,
play to that same defense. Now, the weather conditions is difficult.
He's not a guy with a tremendous arm um, you know,
to cut through the wind and the elements and everything
you've got to do in that city, in that building
in November and December. So if he had his pick,
would would Carolina being maybe a more comfortable fit probably,
But you know, I wouldn't eliminate a Chicago based on

(33:21):
his body of work this season either. Awesome stuff he's Uh,
I think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be
really interesting. I'm not as big a believer in Teddy
the the arm but Teddy the guy everybody seems to
love and I'm fascinating to see where he goes rock
great stuff, dude, unbelievable insight. Really appreciate you join us.

(33:42):
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(34:07):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right,
Dan buyer, Doug, quickly before I tell you the game,
just want to quick give you an update because rolsh
Fedway Racing just released a statement on Ryan Newman's status.
Didn't give an update on his condition, but did say
that Newman is awake and speaking with family and doctors.

(34:29):
So that is some good news on Ryan Newman. The
game today, Doug is rank. All right, Doug rank the
three astros most likely to be being the most in
the upcoming season. There are actual odds from bet online.
Alex Bregman has one to one odds, George Springer two
to one, and you have l two way after that,

(34:50):
Carlos Korea. What do you think of the rankings of
who's likely to get the most bean balls? Um? I
mean I would say three is Spring, two is al Toba,
and one is Bregman. M Interesting. I thought maybe Korea's
talk maybe if it was Cody Bellinger pitching. Then uh,
then the Korea could make the top three. Yeah, although

(35:12):
you know, although Korea did. As much as he's been vociferous,
good word right, as much as he's been viciferous in
his defense of his teammates, he also was the one
guy who admitted had happened. Right, He wasn't. He wasn't
sitting here going but he's tried to He's trying to
say that we didn't win the World Series because of it,
you know which. Whatever. Doug ranked the three best races

(35:35):
in sports. A lot of different ways you can go
with this when it comes down to races of different kinds.
I'm not a racist, so I'm not gonna best race.
Kentucky Derby's number one, Okay? Um, I mean I would say, yeah,

(36:01):
got Daytona, you got Olympics. Uh, Daytona is the super
Bowl of motorsports. So we'll go Daytona too, and I'll
do the I mean, I can't pick one. Marathon Tour
de France is three, alright. Doug rank the three biggest
disappointments in college hoops this year. Disappointments. North Carolina would

(36:24):
be one. They lost again last night. Up add not
youre dame, Yeahikesh, And I mean it's so bad Roy
Williams dropping F bomb in the PROS game press coverts right,
that never happens. Um, let's see here d S bomb
on CBS. Remember you know, yes, yea, yes, yes, I'll

(36:48):
go to Texas at two. And I mean, I guess
I'm supposed to say Michigan State. They're still gonna make
the n c A Tournament. They were just ranked preseason.
Once we'll go Michigan State three. All right, rank your
three worst ledge coach to NBA transitions. Oh, let's go ahead. Um,
I put John b Line at three. Jerry Tarcainian left

(37:13):
just twenty games in at two. Your yawn was longer
than Tarcadians tenure, I think with the Spurs and uh,
Leonard Hamilton's had one. Leonard Hamilton's coach in the NBA
was an amazing one amazing He's an all time great dude,
and his only season with the Washington Wizards. Now, you

(37:35):
started off the top a little bit shedding some light
on what your schedule usually is in New York City.
What are your three favorite foods to eat when you
are in NYC? Mm hmm um let's see here. I
need a third. I mean, I love I haven't had
a bagel s been here, but New York bagels are good.

(37:57):
I mean, pizza is two and number one in terms
of things that like. I like halal halal food, you know,
like a Giro or a jayro as some of you.
Colin has number one. I need a third about street card,
hot dog. I haven't had a right there is? This

(38:20):
is game time on the Duck Got Leave Show, Doug
Got Leave Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um So,
Tom Brady apparently is gonna take some meetings. Gonna take meetings.
Everybody come to me, which I like that kind of
Bottler move, right, You don't have to track Tom Brady's
whereabouts his airplane and where he's landing whatever. He's gonna

(38:45):
take some meetings. So the news of the day is
Drew Brees is coming back. He's staying put. Um So
now we're kind of focused on Philip Rivers, We're focused
on Brady Brady and the Patriot. It's have really two options,
and I kind of think the one option is obvious.

(39:09):
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(39:29):
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have to wait till March. But Mark Mike Girardi, Patriots
Inside for the NFL Network said on Tom Brady, football
ops wants to know where his head is before free agency,

(40:12):
as they should if Brady is inclined to leave or
draw this out. They don't believe that's the desire. The
Patriots could find themselves handcuffed in terms of player acquisition.
The Patriots would have to absorb thirteen point five million
dollars in dead cap salary charge if Brady is not
on the roster when the two thousand and twenty league

(40:33):
year begins on March eighteen. Oh oh, dead cap money
not good, not good. But they need to know, right,
we need to know, like are we going? We going?
We have you, we're going for and if we're not
all right, then we'll have to figure it out. According
to CBS Sports, based on two thousand nineteen regular season records,

(40:55):
the Patriots have the most difficult schedule coming into next season.
Right yeah, the Bills twice, Jets twice, Dolphins twice. Both
Jets and Dolphins should be better. You can play the
Ravens at home, the Niners at home. You can go
to the Chiefs, to the Seahawks, to the Texans, and
you're gonna play the Rams. You missed the playoffs, but
everyone expects them to be better. This is only going

(41:20):
to be It's only gonna go one of two ways. Right,
happy reunion, Everyone on board, throughout something on Instagram, I'm
coming back, or an ugly breakup. Ugly breakup, because if
it's an ugly breakup and he leaves and they tear
it down, yikes. Bills are playoff team. Josh Allen gonna

(41:45):
get better, Niners loaded, young roster, Ravens very good roster,
reigning MVP as quarterback Chiefs, Seahawks, Texans, Rams and I
think the Dolphins and the Jets will both be better.
And this is a really really interesting um dilemma. And

(42:08):
there really isn't there's not a there's not a nice
way to end it. There's not the cordial Hey, let's
because you're leaving them in the you have the potential
to leave them in the lurch. You want to wait
till free agency. But they got to know about free
agency before free agency hits, so they know, Like, you
can't call guys and go like, hey, we want to

(42:30):
offer you a big deal, but only if we have
Tom Brady. Do you have Tom Brady? We have no idea.
And if they don't get Brady and they don't spend
a bunch of money on talented wide receivers and they
go and get any Dalton and draft a quarterback, like, yikes,
there's a little of Lebron there where you hold a

(42:51):
team hostage and then you leave, and if you leave,
the team does poorly and you're like, see I was
holding that thing together or or you held hostage and
then you left, all right, you you gave you gave
us no other option but to tear it down if
you leave, we we don't have a backup plan. You

(43:13):
were the one who said you wanted to play here forever.
So we got rid of Jimmy Garoppolo. Now you know what,
I'm playing forever because our wide receivers weren't good enough.
That's not what forever is. Is that what forever is
right forever as a different, different determination of different people

(43:35):
buy or what do you think here? We're at February eighteenth,
so we're a month away from the new league year starting.
What's your gun? Um my gudness? He goes back, boy
I I just because I just don't think that he
has tons to offer other teams for the amount of

(44:00):
uh money that it could take or would take, Like
I don't know if it's if he's twenty million dollars
a year. Outside of the marketing aspect, That's why, like
I think we've talked, the Raiders never seemed sense to
me outside of just for the marketing value. If you
have an offensive guy in Gruden who's got his offense,

(44:22):
Brady would have his own offense. We believe the Raiders
want to be more of a downfield team with Josh
Jacobs is a running back with that isn't necessarily Tom Brady. Um,
you know, the Chargers just maybe from proximity and with
the talent they would have around him. And I'm not
convinced that New England would would you know, rush to

(44:45):
to want him back either, But I just think that's
how it ends up. Maybe it's more recency of it,
of just or just being so used to it that
you can't picture it. But music, what do you think?
I'm with Dan, I definitely think that he ends up
in New England because you look around and at the

(45:07):
various different situations and I'm not sure there's a clear
cut one where other than maybe the Colts that if
you're like you put Tom Brady in and there immediately
in a better position to win the Super Bowl than
he already has in New England, even pending any sort

(45:30):
of roster moves that they'd have to make to improve
the offense. I think Bill Belichick could easily look at
this situation, and we sort of talked about it yesterday
with maybe the whole reason that they're not having contact
right now is because they know pretty well enough to
sort of go, hey, let's step back, Let's give him
his space. We don't need to be, you know, calling
and texting him each and every day. Let's come up

(45:51):
with an actual plan in place on how we plan
how we are going to improve the roster to his liking,
and go from there once we're ready. I think if
your Belicheck, you can approach him and go, hey, look,
I know you're unhappy with the offense. We thought last
year we could do what the Broncos did with Peyton Manning.
We thought if we had a good enough defense, we

(46:13):
always had trust in you to to make it happen.
With not a lot of offensive weapons, we thought our
defense could carry us and you can make plays when
we needed you to make him and that was our fault.
It was a misassessment. So here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna try and get Stefon Diggs or we're gonna
we're gonna go after these wide receivers in the drought,
you know, whatever it may be, and then Brady is

(46:35):
gonna look at it and go do I really the
next bes option is the Colts, and you and I
both believe that he doesn't want to try and go
and play in the house that Peyton Manning built. Correct.
I don't like, I don't think that the Colts are
really a factor in this thing. I I here's where
I would disagree with Dan. Dan, what you said was,

(46:57):
I don't think he brings the value to other teams.
Like i've you and I are both realistic about Brady,
but that doesn't keep John Gruden from being unrealistic about
brit Like, you know, look, whatever he lacks an arm
strength or whatever he makes up because he's so he's
so not a brilliant, but he'll signal signal that everybody
else that we think we can win. Now that that's
what Brady does as Brady is a hey, we think

(47:18):
we're close, and now we got a super we get
the winning his quarterback. Ever, that that's that's really what
he does. And I do think that's that there's a
tremendous amount of value that one of his strengths though,
and I think that we saw it was I don't
think it was even necessarily the types of guys that
he had in New England. It was that the guys
that he had there he wasn't familiar with. So when
you talk about the relationship that he had, whether it

(47:40):
be with Julian Edelman or Rob Gronkowski or even a
few years with Danny Mmond Dola, like even Josh Gordon
was in the program for a while, that those guys
at least knew what they were expected of and where
the football was going to be and what was going
to happen. I'm not sure if that was totally the
case with New England this past season, with the players

(48:00):
that they had a little on behind their bad offensive line.
So now you moved to another team and now he's
actually in the same position with those skill position players
as he wasn't New England of guys not knowing where
they're going to be, the familiarity of the guys around him,
I think we're much more of a strength for New
England than the actual um value that they had is

(48:21):
is actual wide receivers, you know what I mean? Yeah,
So yeah, no, I I I understand what you're saying.
I'm just saying, Um, I'm not sure. It was just familiarity.
Is that they just those just guys aren't good enough
when you lost, they needed Antonio Brown for a reason.
You need a guy who gets open, figure out a
way to get open. And yes, I do think familiarity
is a big thing. Um yeah, I just you know,

(48:44):
it's like when I hear they're not talking and I
get what you're saying, Ryan, which is like, maybe they
think that he's not a communicative guy. He doesn't, he doesn't.
You know, the more you talk, the more just show me,
don't tell me. I get it. But I hear they're
not talking, and I feel like, um, yes, he's trying
to create leverage. He's trying to make it seem like
he's serious. But maybe he is serious. Maybe this there

(49:07):
is a breakdown in their relationship. Maybe there is, Maybe
it's beyond the point of apparent. Doug. One of the
days that we were in for you, I brought up
the point of I mean, we know the relationship of
Tom Brady and Robert Kraft that in in Tom Brady's
wishes of not being franchise or have the franchise tag
if there was actual belief that Tom Brady was, you know,
going to be their guy when they have just thrown

(49:27):
a multi year deal at him with whatever amount of
money that you wanted, because Bob Kraft doesn't want to
see Tom Brady in another uniform. Meaning you know this
is you know, maybe New England does have their own things,
and when you're talking about the fact of them not talking,
it's this is maybe more of the breath of fresh
air for New England than it is actually for Tom Brady. Yeah,

(49:50):
I don't. I don't. I still I like do I
think Belichick thinks he can win without him? I think eventually,
I just think they're in a bad spot because they
won too many games to get to say ends on
one of those quarterbacks he thinks you can win with early?
Well is it? Isn't it also interesting that I don't
think Bill Belichick if they with on Brady and they're

(50:10):
forced to come up with Plan B. I don't think
Bill Belichick would ever enter a season going like, hey,
we're just gonna completely bottom out and suck. I think
he has enough confidence in the pieces that they have
and what position he could put his quarterback in to
win enough games even you know, going in the next year.
But it is interesting to think that, like Bill Belichick

(50:31):
is one of the very few coaches in the NFL
who knows almost regardless of what happens with or without
Tom Brady, he's not getting fired. So I think that
sort of puts him in a position of like, look,
do we want Brady back? Sure, it'd be great, But
if we don't get Brady back, and even if we're
put in a position where we have to eat the
dead cat money and we aren't in a good position

(50:53):
in terms of quarterback, and I'm here for the long
haul and I will figure it out long term. So
I'm preparing as if, look, Brady, you better get on board,
or I'm ready to just keep moving on without you,
and everything will be fine for me because I'm not
getting fired in the next year or two. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. But in the short term, it will
feel like a win for Brady if they do fall apart,

(51:16):
whether or not. You know, Belichick thinks he's got plenty
of time and there'll be another run. And I don't
think there's any reason to not believe that. It does
still feel like if the thing fell apart to be
a win for Brady. See, you know, because at some
point guys people want credit, you know, they just do.
I mean think about if you've ever seen anybody who's
ever been in a movie, they will wait you go

(51:39):
to see the movie, or they'll rent it or whatever
way way there I am there. I am right, they're
there right right there, not not even the scene, just
the name right there on this. My sister had had
a line in a movie once, so whatever, and I
remember like we went to the movie theater to see it,
and um we we saw there there was a line,

(52:02):
and we were getting ready to leave, just like where
are you going? I was like the movie is over?
It's like, no, don't you want to see my name
in the credits? I was like, you mean you want
to see your name in the credits? Everybody does? And
I kind of think that's what a little bit this
is over. It's like Brady is called the goat hey,
but but Brady probably feels like, well, you know, I
can I do it outside of Belichick. And I'm sure

(52:22):
some of it this is like the Borough thing where
maybe deep down he doesn't believe that he knows you
know he knows that that he does the offense and
he and you know, he's got a great relationship with
you know, his offensive coordinator, and they do their own thing.
But you hear enough people say it, and you do
have a tendency to get kind of pushed over to
that side. I don't know. The whole thing is fascinating.

(52:46):
I do wish I knew. I don't like waiting a month,
but we're all gonna have to wait a month and speculate.
And right now the speculation is they're not talking. He's
gonna have a bunch of meetings. I don't think you
have meetings with other teams. If you're gonna go back,
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It's getting uglier, not better, uglier everybody. Yesterday Mike Trout

(53:10):
said something. It wasn't that harsher critique, but I mean
he said, if I hit the game winning walk off
home run to go to the World Series, you can
tear my shirt off, right. He said some stuff, And
Mike Trout usually has no opinion on anything that matters, nothing, nothing,
um but now the knives are out. This is braves

(53:31):
Altcular Nick mark kekis talking about Astro's players. I feel
like every single guy over there needs a beating. You know,
it's it's wrong. They're messing with people's careers. You know.
I know we're all competitive and we're all we're out
there competing, but there's right ways to do it, the
wrong ways to do it, and uh disagree with the
way they did it. Now he said beating right there

(53:53):
was because there was a little bit of nasally congestion there.
When I don't he didn't say beating. He didn't say
all those guys need a beating, did he. Let's hear
one more time. I feel like every single guy over
there needs a beating. You know, it's it's wrong. They're
messing with people's careers. You know. I know we're all
competitive and we're all we're out there competing, but there's

(54:14):
the right ways to do it, the wrong ways to
do it, and UH disagree with the way they did it. Ramos,
you thought he said beating. I do. I believe there's
a tea and I have my headphones on. I'm sure
you do too, obviously, but I hear a tea in there,
and I feel like every single guy over there needs
a beating. I hear a tea, but it you know,

(54:35):
that doesn't mean I'm correct. Will you take a strong
stand there? John, the best place to be, Doug. I
hear beating, and I'm looking at three different articles that
have transcribed it as beating the t I'm gonna go

(54:57):
with the tea as well. I think he says being mean.
I think I think he says beating. I don't think
he says these guys need a beating. I think it's
a misquote. Let's let's let's go one more time and
take a listen. I feel like every single guy over
there needs a beating. You know, it's it's wrong. They're
messing with people's careers. You know. I know we're all competitive,

(55:17):
and we're all we're out there competing. But I just
I just don't think he'd say beating, even if my
When I first thought I heard it, I thought he
said beating two. And then I listened, I'm like, no,
he's saying beaming. Well, here's what I'll say Earlier I
said three. I haven't seen a single article that has
quoted him as beating. What doesn't matter what they quote

(55:38):
it were. We have the sound. This is the same quote.
This is what he's saying. What I'm saying is you
would think, with this much play over the past six
hours since he said the quote, you would think if
he felt he needed to retract it, someone would have
made him aware of it and he would have retracted.
At this point, it definitely sounds tougher to say be
beating beating than beating, and there have been a couple

(56:00):
of Astros players who have since responded to the quote,
specifically as if it were said as beating Dusty Baker
saying he can come over here and beat us. Maybe
he's had his wheaties. I mean, like Dusty Baker backing
up his players who he hasn't even managed won one
game yet, right, and he only has his job because
they were they were cheating and got caught. Is is amazing?

(56:23):
Like this whole thing is amazing. The baseball tough guy
thing is awesome too, because baseball guys are such they
such tough dudes. That's fat fast thing. So you guys
all think it says beating, I may be the only
one here and beating. Huh, We'll see what Jason lack
camp Fors. I just think, look, this has a tendency
to spiral out of control. And then what do you

(56:44):
do when you're we talked about this yesterday. You're the
commissioner baseball guys get beamed. Used to spend them when
you never suspend the players, and they you know, and
they they admitted to cheating a hard one. Fox Sports
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(57:04):
are to listen live. He's knocking forward, joins his NFL
insider All right, Jason, give me the give me the
what you know of now? In terms of Brady, nothing's
really changed since the last time we talked. I mean,
and nothing is gonna change until the combine or or
you know a little bit after that. Um, But he's

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going to play this out. He's going to see what
what his best options are, who's really interested in him,
and what everybody has to offer. And the process still
hasn't even started yet, and it really legally can't start
until the middle of March. And you know, I don't
I don't think that he knows. Um, exactly. You know
how long it will take or how many teams he'll

(57:47):
end up actually talking to, if not actually meeting with,
which it remains to be seen whether he feels the
need to meet in person with people or not. UM,
in this day and age, with technology being what it is,
I don't know it. You know how imperative it is.
He's been in the league twenty years, you know whatever.
He knows what every stadium looks like. He has an
idea of you know who's training facilities, um, you know

(58:10):
who has what to offer. So I'm not sure at
the end of the day, that's going to carry a
whole lot of weight with him, um in terms of
actually being on site. But the Patriots don't know who
their quarterback is going to be next year, and it
might be um more than a month before they do,
which which really hinders their ability to put together a
team or or work their free agency right. Well, I

(58:33):
mean it complicates things, There's no doubt about that. I mean,
are they gonna be completely changing their scheme? What is
what is the um, what's the upside of the next
quarterback gonna be? Like? What are his strengths going to be? Uh?
They obviously need to upgrade that offense no matter what,
no matter who the quarterback is, Um, they're not gonna
be able to be a competitive football team having that

(58:53):
little to offer in terms of speed and and and
you know, quick twitch and and I mean there's no
dynamic uh player, no dynamic school guy in on the roster.
I mean Edelman's you know, going to move the change,
but he's not gonna beat anybody physically. They throw to
James White alive and that's it. I mean, those are
the two guys he treat. No Brady trusted in that offense.

(59:15):
So yeah, the Patriots have their work cut out for regardless. Um,
and and if again, if when they re recruit Tom Brady,
they're gonna have to have a comprehensive plan. You know,
it can't just be um, we're just gonna roll the
balls back out and keep doing what we're doing, and
you know, we're gonna pay you more money and everything
will be fine. I think it's gonna have to be

(59:36):
a little more holistic than that. Jason camp Forward joining
us on the Doug Gatlip Show on Fox Sports Radio,
Drew Brees today announces he's coming back, which means teddy
Bridgewater will exit. Where does teddy Bridgewater where is he
likely to go? I mean, I think if Tom Brady
does move on, I think teddy Bridgewater would make a
lot of sense for the New England Patriots. Um at

(01:00:00):
teddy Bridgewater could make sense for the Chargers if that's
not where Tom Brady lands. Um. And and if they're
you know, picking even if they pick a quarterback, even
if they take a Herbert, Uh, they're gonna want to
be competitive or at least, you know, attempt to be
competitive this year in that new stadium, fighting for whatever
market share they can attain. So I don't know that,

(01:00:21):
you know, putting Herbert in and letting him start from
day one, if that's where they're in position the draft
a quarterback makes sense. I think you could make a
case for teddy Bridgewater there. Um, you know, the Raiders,
I don't. I don't know that. Um he's the gun
slinger that John Oh, I'm sorry that John Gruden is
ultimately drawn to I'm not sure how much that's a

(01:00:41):
fit a fit. Same thing with Tampa, you know, and
Bruce Arians. I think he wants a guy who's a
little more naturally inclined to push the ball downfield, maybe
a little more than Bridgewater. Um. You know, I don't
have to see where some of these other dominoes fall,
but you know, I could see him as the you know,
the guy to take a shot replacing a Brady or

(01:01:02):
Rivers Jason Lockham for our guests on the Doug Outlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, it's interesting because there's others.
There's there's there's Jamis right and and they they're noncommittal, committal,
will just kind of see what's the feelings about Jameis
Winston and Tampa. Well, they're gonna have to I mean,

(01:01:23):
they're going to have to make a decision before free
agency starts. I mean, you know, the window will be
opening up here soon to use the franchise or transition
tag and if they don't use, you know, place that
on him, then he's gone. At the very least have
the ability to find out exactly what his market value
is and to talk to all thirty one teams. And

(01:01:44):
I'm not sure that it comes to that because there
they have to do their own mental calculus. And you
know it is Andy Dalton is trading a tour or
three for Andy Dalton. You know, and extending him for
a year or two, giving him a Nick Foles contract?
Is that is that better than tagging Jamis this year
and seeing what happens? You know, Cam Newton is not

(01:02:04):
being traded in that division, Uh, Derek Carr, I mean
if if, if the Raiders move on, I guess you know,
I guess he's making You know, he got him on
a chief contract at nineteen. I don't know that he's
Bruce Arians cup of tea. I think the same reason
Gruden's frustrated with him, or why Bruce Arians will look
at him and say, I don't think that's the long
term answer. I don't think they're drafting one. You know,

(01:02:26):
at fourteen three, y're probably already gone. Are they gonna
move up to get somebody and mortgage more of the
future with a coach who was very much year to
year at this point? Um? You know, I think once
you start with Tom Brady, he's not going to Tampa.
I got news for you. So you start going through
the process of elimination. I don't know where they upgrade
off of Jamis Winston and all the time and all
the energy and all the money they've spent on him

(01:02:49):
to this point, do you let him leave at age
twenty six and maybe prosperous somewhere else and not having
an upgrade in your back pocket yourselves. I don't know
that that makes a whole lot of sense for them,
And I also don't know how they upgrade over him
again unless you're talking about trying to move into the
top five, and even then there's risk him off. That's

(01:03:12):
the voice of Jason Lacamphora, who joins us from a
dog pound somewhere. M I'm sure he loves you, all right.
What about Philip Rivers? Is it India Retire? I think
it's Indie or or Tampa. You know, I think those
are two teams. Well, I don't think those are two teams.
I know they've done a lot of work on him, um,

(01:03:34):
but you know, again, he's probably costing you five if
you can put a non exclusive tag on Jamis at
seven and he's eleven years younger, and he has upside,
and let's be real, Philip doesn't anymore. Does that make sense?
So if Tampa goes ahead and keeps Winston, then I think, yeah,
it's probably Indianapolis or I mean, something else might pop loose.

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But I don't know how lucrative it's going to be,
and I don't know that it's gonna fit what he's
looking to do, which is at least go somewhere where
you think the team's got a chance to make the playoffs.
And and he's a guy who, at this stage of
his career, if he doesn't have something lined up early
in free agency, the longer he sits, uh, you know,
the more you're you're looking at a you know, a
bridge contract more than anything close to the kind of

(01:04:19):
starting quarterback money he's used to making. I mean, at
least three you're gonna go in the first round. Um,
there's been so many teams that have traded for signed
or drafted quarterbacks in the last two years that there's
not that many seats at the table. And there's more mobility,
uh than we've ever seen before with again all these
guys like a car, like a Dalton, like a Newton

(01:04:41):
on the trade market, you know, Bridgewater, if some if
somebody goes in the Aianapolis, then brissets out there, Jamis Mariota. Uh,
there's so many options, so many different flavors, guys at
different stages of their career. Um, you know, I I don't.
I don't know. If I'm Philip Rivers and I'm getting
sniffed some Indianapolis US, I'm gonna do what I can

(01:05:02):
to try to be their guy early on in this process.
Jason Locket for our guest in the Doug Otlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Likely that Antonio Brown plays
in the NFL next year, Oh boy, nobody's signing him now.
I mean with a six month off season, why would
you you know the league nobody's signed him in season
when he might have been a difference between making a

(01:05:23):
Super Bowl and not. The league still hasn't clarified his status.
I don't get the impression from the league office that
they're in any sort of hurry to clarify his status.
I mean, what goodel will talk next at the end
of March at owners meetings there. I doubt that they're
you know, going to say that, yeah, Antonio Brown is
is is you know, reinstated and and there's no contingencies

(01:05:45):
you guys, you mean, look, you know how to handle
this stuff. I mean, they don't. They don't do anything
early in the off season, especially for someone who's had
this degree of troubles, because why would you something else
happens and now you know you're you're starting a whole
another investor the gaistion. So does somebody sign him three
weeks two weeks a week before the start of camp,
if if he stayed out of trouble and he's shown

(01:06:08):
real contrition and he's made changes in his life and
in terms of who he associates with and how he
comports himself, and and if he's getting you know, if
he's talking to some sort of trained professional about his behavior, um,
then then I'd never say never, because the talent is there.
But I can't imagine anybody really doing that until July. Yeah,

(01:06:28):
it would be hard to you know what I mean,
what's the game? Like? I just don't know, because he's
probably gonna be suspended. I I just I don't know
if he ever plays football again, no matter how much
he apologizes, he just done so much damage to himself
and his brand. And and you know, when you go
after when you go after women, you know, on social media,

(01:06:49):
and you like, that's just we're in an error where
people where the NFL doesn't have an appetite for it,
no matter how talented you are. Yeah, I don't know
I don't know. You know, we'll we'll see, I mean
may maybe things are changing to some degree, but I've
seen so many guys get get other opportunities. And and

(01:07:10):
look if the league had clarified his status at all
and and said, hey, we don't know enough to suspend him,
or hey we might suspend our investigation is not gonna
be done until the off season. He would have he
would have been he would have been a Saint or
a Patriot or something. Yeah, but but he's not, which
leads you to believe there's something else coming. Or you know,

(01:07:30):
maybe Greg Hardy got a second chance, dude. So I mean,
I'm just I'm just saying, like I don't but but
he did. But it became it became a disaster, right
like I I mean, it became a disaster. And I
think that's what people are worried about, is like, wait,
he was, he was. There was a different story every
week with this guy for about two months. Now, all

(01:07:50):
of a sudden, now he wants to apologize and we're
just supposed to forget about it. We forgot about it
for for a short period time with Greg Hardy, and
it ended up being worse, not better, and I think
smart people do learn from their mistakes. That was clearly mistake.
That's just for the Cowboys, but for the league. Yeah,
I mean we'll see, you know, long off season if
if if he gets in the good graces of the

(01:08:11):
league office and somebody is able to sign him for
a couple of million bucks, no frills, and it's all incentive,
you know, incentive bound, we'll see. I want to ask
you about Joe Burrow. What's the what are you hearing
is the likelihood that that he tries to pull out
Eli man. You know, I don't know that it goes

(01:08:32):
def con, but it's going to be pretty clear throughout
this process that, um, there's other places that he would
prefer to be and that he has real reservations and
justifiably so, about how badly that organization wants to win
and how committed they are, and how they're going to
allocate resources and assets not just um throughout the roster,

(01:08:56):
but you know, upgrade and continue to upgrade facilities. UM,
you know, infrastructure scouting technology. Uh, they're very much a
mon posh shop. And there's you know that quarter quarterbacks
and quarterback careers have gone to die there many times, UM,
a lot of guys who came into the league with
a lot of fanfare, so I understand where he's coming from.

(01:09:18):
At the end of the day, do they come out
and say we absolutely positivity are not signing this contract
and get into a stair down with Mike Brown. That
means it's not out of the rum the possibility. I'll
have to see how the interactions go. Obviously, the Bengals
are gonna have people to combine. Bengals will be at
his pro days. The Bengals are gonna want him for
you know, one of the twenty private visits that you
can have kids make uh and and there's ways subtle

(01:09:42):
and and overt to to send signals to that organization,
and to send signals to the other teams who you
think might might be inclined to come up to one
and get you. I would just say that caution the
Bengals to be open minded, um and and and not
fall into some of the traps that they've fallen in
to in the past, which is we're old school, this
is how we've always done it. You know, nobody, no, nobody,

(01:10:06):
you know wins a stare down with Mike Brown and
and you know we'll take you to the mat because
you know, the draft, the sanctity of the draft triumphs overall. Um,
he's not the only quarterback in the world. The the
hall that they might be able to get for him
could could could be absolutely massive. And this is a
year in which there are more quarterback options, as we

(01:10:26):
were just talking about, than any year I can think
of before. And there is a generational quarterback coming up
with the first pick next year. Um, the Raiders won't
have their haul anymore. The Dolphins have spent a lot
of those picks. Um. You know, I Hey, I think
I think the Bengals should be open minded and in
terms of what they do with that pick, because the

(01:10:48):
trade there there might be a trade out there that
just impossible to say no to. And you shouldn't say
no just because you're philosophically opposed to making trades. No,
I agree with you. I think the area one of
the teams would. I just don't think the Bengals will
Jason at the end of the day. Mike Brown. You know,
Mike Brown's track record would tell you he's not gonna
blink no matter what this kid does. I just don't
know that that's the right way to approach this. Not

(01:11:10):
I I agree with you, but like you said, we're
dealing with Mike rout Jay's lacking for a CBS Sports
joining us their NFL insider. Uh. You wrote that both
Mike Zimmer and Rich Pielman are proceed to be on
the hot seat because they're gonna they're gonna hit salary
cap hell after next season. So now teams are gonna
call and try and pluck off pieces. Do you think
Stefan Diggs is in the Vikings uniform game one next year?

(01:11:30):
Probably not? Um, probably not. I mean, and they might
not be in salary cap hell right now, but they're
somewhere between purgatory and hell. Uh, they're not in a
good spot. And and you know, under understandably saw I mean,
so much was made of the Cousins contract, but that
that you know, yeah, they spent a lot of money
on him, but they also spent a ton of money
to keep their own guys, and they were, you know,

(01:11:51):
rolling out top of the market extensions all over the
place for two years. And now those chickens are coming
home to roost and there earn a whole lot of
playoff win behind them, And I understand the statement that
ownership put out there, you know, when the rumors were
running hot and heavy about Zimmer in particular leading into
the playoffs. Um, but until or unless they get extensions

(01:12:12):
and real extensions, not one year extensions, then yeah, the
rest of the league is gonna be looking at that like, hey, um,
those guys look like they're in a pretty desperate situation
and let's see what we can get. There's no way
they're gonna be able to keep this whole team together. Um,
some guys will be cut, some guys will be traded,
but they're going to have to you know, repackage and
move some move some things around just to have enough

(01:12:34):
cat flexibility to get through a season. So I'm very
interested to see, you know, who stays and who goes.
But I mean a guy like Karl Rudolph, he really
came on last year, but I mean you you drafted
his replacement. I don't know if they're gonna be able
to carry Karl Rudolph and Lyndall. Joseph's a nice player.
I don't know that they're going to be able to
carry him at twelve million. And if you if you start,
you know, extending guys and you know guys now who

(01:12:57):
are going to a third contract, then you really get
yourself in trouble. So yes, they will be a team
that a lot of clubs and agents won an audience
within Indianapolis because their their cop situation is arguably the
worst in the league. Awesome, awesome stuff. That's Jason lackhamp
four fam on social media like Twitter readers work at
CBS Sports dot Com. We appreciate you putting the dogs

(01:13:19):
away for us as well. Thanks for joining us. You
got funny, have a going all right, pleasures all mine
with Janice. Move on from Milwaukee for a bigger market.
Wait to hear what he said, give me my reaction. Next,
be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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(01:13:40):
Doug gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio every day. At this time,
we like to play for you a previous show on
Fox Sports Trader or Fox Sports One we call it.
And now, this is what Janie Cintenna COOPO said about
potentially teaming up with his brothers. I quote, I think
it'd be amazing, told us to USA today. Obviously we'd

(01:14:01):
spend more time together. I'm you're my mom would love that.
But if we could end up on a team in Milwaukee,
l A, whatever, that would be awesome. That's what he
said his own words. Here's Chris Broussard earlier this morning
on First Things First, Oh, he'd be able to remain
immune to the championship talk, Like, obviously, within his own self,

(01:14:22):
he wants to win championships. He's a competitor, but there's
also the added pressure from the outside world, like Lebron James.
It was like everybody's comparing this guy to Michael Jordan's
He's gotta win championships, and Lebron hears that. What player
wouldn't hear that? And then you begin, in addition to
your own desire to win, it's like you can't do

(01:14:43):
it on your own timetable though. It's like you can't
just continue to build toward it and get it when
you get it that the media, we put the pressure
on you. You gotta start winning multiple rings, and there's
a ring count and so on and so forth. Kenny
on this remain immune to that? It's a great question.
It's it's a great question whether or not he can

(01:15:04):
remain immune to all of the palaver. If you will,
of you gotta win a ring, you gotta get to
a bigger market. I think this is Jana's just being honest.
This is just him. He he has an honesty about
him that's really endearing, you know. He he talked about
James Harden after the All Star Game. He's like, look,

(01:15:26):
we're just trying. Everybody's just trying to to to pass
to whoever James Harden was guarding. It doesn't mean that
he's he's lying or he's lying about maybe playing in
l A. It's just he's he hasn't either learned or
doesn't care about being politically correct and what you're supposed
to say. That said, it shows it's a genius move
um by the Lakers to sign one of his brothers.

(01:15:48):
His other ones on on the Milwaukee Bucks. Neither of
them are NBA players, nor will they be rotation players
in the NBA, and both are gonna make a lot
more money than they should because people are gonna try
and get you know, Yannest to come to their town
and look it. It would be bad for business. I
believe in the NBA is if Janice left, a guy

(01:16:10):
who has steadfast to be been committed. They built the
whole thing around him, They built a new arena, they
gotta practice facility. The whole city is and for him
to leave would be devastating because everybody would leave a
small market. And if that happens, I continue to believe
that there's going to be some sort of something done
in the next collecting Barking Agreement to help those teams
either keep their players or get some sort of financial

(01:16:34):
revenue sharing back that they lost by losing a superstar.
Because it's happening way too often. It's too hard to
keep those guys around. That's what the Fox said, Gotlieve
show here on Fox Sports Radio a lot to get
to in the third hour of the show. You know,
there's there's some interesting stuff. The Clippers got Reggie Jackson.

(01:16:57):
That's interesting. I will tell you the upside and the
outside there. If you're just doing his Reggie Jackson bought
out by the by the Pistons with the intention of
signing with the Clippers. Wow, it tells you something about
the Clippers, and it gives me there's there's another side
to it which I'm really interested about um. Plus, Ryan

(01:17:18):
Newman apparently is alive and speaking to people music. Did
you watch that crash last night? Did you? I'm more,
do you see it on replay relay? And what did
you think? I thought it was absolutely crazy? Yes, And
he's apparently speaking to his family members. Non life threatening injuries.

(01:17:40):
That's that's amazing. I can't even fathom that. That's amazing.
But the news of the day is that Drew Brees
is going to return in two thousand twenty. Is it
the right move? Give you my thoughts. Next to The
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(01:18:04):
Sports Radio? So Today in sports? Obviously, Ryan Newman continue
to recover. And I'm not gonna see her lie to
you and tell you that I pay attention to NASCAR ever.
But I saw that crash last night and I was
I'm just the first time I can remember, you know,
saying a little prayer for a guy I don't know,
just to pull through and be okay. But apparently he's

(01:18:27):
going to be some form of okay, right, Really remarkable stuff.
Um Today in sports been dominated by this story which
Drew Brees basically dropped himself on Instagram. I look forward
to the grinding, the journey for the reward at the
end will be worth it. Love you hashtag who dat Nation?
Let's make another run for it? What if he turned

(01:18:50):
around with the next post and it's like psych psach
kidding Anyway, Drew Brees is coming back. He'll be the
quarterback of the Saints. Means Teddy Bridgewater We'll move on.
I still think Teddy Bridgewater ends up in Carolina, but
I don't think anybody cares as much they care about

(01:19:11):
Drew Brees is a first ballot Hall of Famer. The
Saints are twenty seven in cap space, only nine point
three million in cap space. There are different ways to
try and create more space, but there's still some limitation.
Should be pointed out that they're you know, they're top heavy.
Their big name guys are under contract. Kamara is still
under rookie deal, Cam Jordan, Michael Thomas Um are under

(01:19:35):
long term deals. Taysom Hill's got a real shot he'll
be the heir apparent, but he's going to get a
new contract as he's a restricted free agent, and it's
gonna be interesting to see how Breeze finished his career.
They've had three crushing defeats in the past three years,
and at the end of the last two seasons, Drew

(01:19:56):
Brees wasn't sharp. You know, he just wasn't. I don't
know what you consider Drew Brees to be. Like one
of the one of the things that's interesting about Brees
is that the Rams game, he kind of gets a
pass for how he performed, not only the the terrible

(01:20:19):
look on first down. That throw that was past interference
should have been to the outside outside shoulder of his
running back running a wheel route, not to the inside,
and it wasn't. It wasn't a long throw, but it
was an inaccurate throw. Now, I know you're sitting there
going like, hey, Gotli, what are you talking about inaccuracy.

(01:20:40):
Here's a guy who completed seventy four point three percent
of his passes this year, Like, okay, But when you
watched Drew Brees this year, he was not the same.
He wasn't He wasn't able to throw the ball as
deep downfield. Now you complete seventy seventy four seventy four
cent of your passes and you're like, man, that guy
it's deadly accurate, and he is, but he's just not

(01:21:05):
He's not the same guy. Especially late in the year
and in the playoffs. Now, you can't be that in apt.
You can't be this well regarded and that inept against
the Saints this year, against the Rams last year, or
late in the regular season and us not start to
ask a why, what what is going on here? Why

(01:21:25):
is that the case? You know? I mean, look this year.
Obviously they lit up the Colts, the lit up the
lit up the Titans and the Panthers to end the season.
But you know, Lost of the Falcons was kind of
telling lost the Vikings kind of telling look at the

(01:21:45):
box score against Remember they're they're getting beaten badly and
have to score ten points in the fourth quarter to
tie it. But you're going against a Cousins team that
they were trying to Drew Brees through for two yards,
one touchdown, one inception. This is at home, and this
is after racking up a bunch of yards on the
last two drives of the game, when the Vikings were

(01:22:07):
in the pre event. I feel like this is a
classic case of like pickup basketball. Analogy is running it back.
You know, you're all ready to go and Breeze probably
you know, with his family, his kids and everything's probably like,
you know, look, Tony Rolmos making a bunch of money.
I could take one of these two TV jobs. I

(01:22:30):
could take a year off, I could do whatever. I
could travel, I could be a dad. But we're so close.
Looks around the division. You know, Tampa probably has a
new quarterback, Carolina's you know, hit and reboot. Atlanta is
nowhere near ready, although they kept their coaching staff, but

(01:22:50):
you know they were. They were a disaster for much
of the season. We can get to the playoffs. Get
you start convincing yourself of all the reasons to come back.
When just like when you play pick up basketball, you
started playing at seven, you told your wife you'd be
home at ten, it's nine fifteen. You've got a chance
to get a cup of coffee. You gotta check you
dried off, you took off your shoes, and then you

(01:23:12):
look at the court and there's nine guys like, hey man,
we need one more. Come on running back. You almost
won that last weeing, Like I want to end on
a win. You run it back and what happened. Somebody
gets hurt, or the game is never as good as
your or you thought it would be. I just wouldn't
run one back. I wouldn't run one back. He has
won a Super Bowl, he has played in two, he's
obviously suffered through three. Just crushing defeats in the last

(01:23:36):
three years. Kind of a remarkable like what's gonna go
wrong for the Saints now, But the idea of holding
it together and continued to play at this level when
he hasn't even played at that level of the last
two years. I find I find hard too hard to
guess that that's what's gonna happen. I just think it's
more likely that you see more and more Taysom Hill,

(01:24:00):
you see less and less Drew Brees, and you see
the general the fade that we've seen late in the
year this past year ends up striking a little bit earlier.
And while everybody wants to be Peyton Manning, they won
that Super Bowl because of defense, and Peyton Manning was
bench for brock Ostwallder that year. He just was. And
Peyton Manning is you know, he's in the conversation of

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greatest quarterbacks of all time if you ask actual quarterbacks
that said Peyton Manning couldn't play quarterback and they could
not move the ball against Carolina, they won because their defense.
Nine touchdowns, seventeen receptions. And he's the good end of
this story, right, If that's just a results driven thing.

(01:24:44):
If they do anything other than win the super Bowl,
that last season is a disaster. And that's why Oswaller
didn't resign with Denver because he got pulled. They don't
win that super Bowl or they don't get to that
super Bowl, And we have a complete a different opinion
at about that last year. And then you look at
Fars last year. Then you start to look around at

(01:25:05):
other you know, other legendary quarterbacks last year, you're like,
you know, it doesn't always end all that great. Just
dozen Steve Young's last year. What happened. Yes, John Elway
won a super Bowl in his last game, but he
did so with defense, he did so with a great
running game, and you know a championship team that he

(01:25:28):
he came back with. I don't see this happening again.
By are you think it's a good decision to come back? Uh?
I think this is it? If this is it of
just to take it one more chance? Sure, why not
for the heartbreak that you talk about of being like
maybe how far away it also was? How close that maybe? Music?

(01:25:53):
What do you think? I think it's the right decision
for Drew Brees. I'm not sure how. I'm not sure
if it's the right decision for the Saints right now.
I I guess they're a type of team that the
their current roster makeup makes them feel like they are

(01:26:13):
a win now, So going with someone like Drew Brees
probably gives them the best chance to win, similar to
like a Patriots. But I just think it's so clear
that whether it's Tom Brady or Drew Brees, that they're
not gonna be here. I mean, three seasons from now
at best. You're probably better off starting over sooner rather

(01:26:37):
than later. So I think that Drew Brees coming back
sort of puts the Saints in that, well, they're not
going to somehow be like, oh, he wants to come
back for perfect, we'll let him walk in free agency.
I just don't think that's realistic. So I guess they
don't really have any other options. I just think it
makes the most sense for Breeze, but probably not the
best situation for the Saints. Doug otlips Here on Fox

(01:27:00):
Sports Radio. Yeah, no, look, I think it. I think
it'd be really hard for the Saints to replace him.
I think. I mean, like, I understand, and I also
understand guys not walking away Like I used to defend
far when you wouldn't walk away people, Why won't you
just walk away? It's like, you know, because it's the
only time the rest of your life when you're gonna have,
you know, forty five other dudes or ten dudes in

(01:27:20):
the huddle looking at you for leadership, eighty people cheering
for you. It's just you'll never get that feeling again.
And once you're gone, you're it's kind of it's over.
You know. It just is that he's a dad and
he has the whole rest of his life to look
forward to. But I just, you know, it's a drug.
It's a it's it's a drug, Daniel. You I just

(01:27:44):
wanted to add on because and not to well, I
disagree with what Ryan was saying for the simple fact
of it seems like the Saints have their plan, like
they seem like they it's gonna be Taysom Hill's card
to drive in and there is even talk on when
we didn't know what Breezes role was going to be,
is would Breeze feel good enough having a you know,

(01:28:08):
kind of a passing the Torch season where maybe he
takes you know, sevent of the snaps while thirty go
to Taysom Hill, Like that's kind of where Drew Brees is.
So I think that the Saints are at a different
spot of where they actually know where they want to go.
They've made up their minds whether that's a good plan
or a bad plan. They have their plan, which is
Taysom Hill. I guess that would be my question then,

(01:28:32):
is if your plan is Taysom Hill, you think it's
better off to continue towards this slow transition towards Saysom
Hill and not just be like, man, we really would
be better off with just they actually do. I actually
agree with Dan and that, like, if you have a
true change of pace and it's worked for them and
they can do that, then yeah. Um. But but to

(01:28:55):
Ryan's and what Ryan's saying, and I think it's also
is and I talked with Sean Payton about this off
air at the Super Bowl, and I said, well, what
do you do if you when you go to Tassam,
do you go in draft or sign another Tassum behind him.
He's like, yeah, I think you might even need to.
He's like, look, he's been hurt a bunch of college
hasn't been hurt really as a pro. But you're gonna

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because he is gonna run, He's putting himselves in harm's way.
You gotta go, and you can't have You wouldn't have
a change of pace as a backup to Taysom Hill,
which is a kind of odd because it doesn't allow
them to fully commit to Tassom Hill style either. So
on some level, I think it makes them hard to
prepare for. On some level makes them easier to play
against because they're not truly committed to one style. Fox

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s R to listen live. Reggie Jackson apparently gonna be
bought out by the Detroit Pistons and he's going to
sign with the l A Clippers. That's a wow, right,

(01:30:01):
The Clippers who wanted Darren Collinson their thoughts of Derrick
Rose about they needed one more guarded like a starting
caliber point guard. Get get just that. So on paper,
that's a huge win, gigantic, gigantic win for uh the
l A Clippers. But but games are not decided on paper.

(01:30:25):
Games are as Kenny Mains has played inside television sets,
and with that in mind, I'm kind of fascinated by this.
I mean, look, if you think that Reggie Jackson's gonna
do well coming off the bench, in theory, you pro
rate his points and you give him, you know, fewer

(01:30:45):
possessions and he'll have be more arrested in a chance
to have greater energy playing with better players and games
that matter. That would be great. But remember he didn't
want to be a backup in Oklahoma City. That's what
got him to Detroit to begin with. People forget that
the reason he's in Detroit was he wanted his own team. Now,

(01:31:07):
I know that we think, and maybe it's true that
guys can sacrifice their egos, you know, when they've been
playing a while and they just want to shout at
a championship. He already got his money and it'll be
a free agent and get more money next year. That
sounds reasonable, But that's really hard to rewire yourself late
in the year. Oh oh, now you're going to be

(01:31:27):
a good teammate. Now you're going to be okay with
coming out the bench because you already got your money.
Maybe you know, maybe I'm willing to at least see
how it plays out. But I will tell you the
likelihood that you know, the likelihood that you're that it's
going to be as seamless as people I want to

(01:31:50):
believe it is. It's kind of laughable, kind of laughable.
Doesn't seem like that's likely, Just doesn't doesn't seem gets
something that that will work. Um, the Clippers have put
together a super talented roster, and like, here's the problem.
Patrick Beverley is their heart and soul. I would tell

(01:32:13):
you that I share the opinion of people in the
NBA who think Patrick Beverley isn't talented enough, big enough,
strong enough, talented enough to be the starting point guard
on an NBA championship team. The problem, though, is Patrick
Beverley is still the heart and soul of that team.
And does he lose some of his spirit? Does he

(01:32:33):
lose some of his pull? Does he lose some of
his magical powers? If he's playing limited minutes because you're
placed them with Reggie Jackson, who's not seen as a
team guy on paper. Great move for the Clippers. Games
aren't played on paper, They're played inside television sets. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on

(01:32:53):
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio a app.
Larry Holder covers the Saints for the athletic he joins
in the Doug Outlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. He yesterday,
he wrote, the most likely scenario is that Drew Brees
would return for one more season two thousand twenty. Maybe
you can tell us this week's lottery numbers as well, Larry,
how are you? I wish that, you know, it was

(01:33:16):
like lightning striking from the sky, but I don't. I
don't think that really was. You know, I feel like
that the Drew Brees coming back for one more year,
that was the easiest piece kid of to the Saints
future quarterback puzzle. I just didn't think that he was
gonna walk away after losing to the Vikings, especially coming

(01:33:38):
off of a December where he was the NFL's UH
or the NFC's offensive player. Of the month, and he
has a great team and he's playing well. So I
just figured he would be back for one more year.
But I assume this is going to be his last year.
I feel confident in actually saying that. Um okay, so

(01:34:00):
we were these Saints prepared for him to walk away?
I think internally they probably were because they felt like,
I can tell you there's a there's a high level
of confidence. Maybe you might not have it and I
might not have it, but they feel like Kaysom Hill
is the future quarterback. Now, would they have considered bringing

(01:34:22):
Teddy Bridgewater back? Uh? If Drew Brees would have retired, Uh,
I think they would have. So. I think ultimately they
were prepared with the two quarterbacks that they had outside
of Drew Brees in the building, if he were to
walk away. But I think everyone involved knew that Drew
wasn't gonna walk away quite yet. So I felt like

(01:34:43):
they were confident in leaving the season that this would
have been the case. But if worse would have come
to worst, I think the Saints would have been been
prepared otherwise, Uh, with the two quarterbacks that they uh,
we're still in the building and yet are are will
potentially either unrestricted in Teddy Bridgewater and restricted free agent

(01:35:04):
Taysom Hill. Okay, help me out, does uh does does
Teddy Bridge want to go to Carolina because Joe Brady
is there? I kind of made that connection very early on. On.
Of course SAT SAMs and l s U fans. Of course,
the people I write uh right to a lot, we're
none too happy to hear that. Uh. That place, to

(01:35:26):
me seems like a good spot might as well. Look
in the Division two. I think Tampa would be a
good spot. Mean Brusarians uh certainly knows how to coach quarterbacks,
and Teddy Bridgewater is like the antithesis of Jamis Winston.
He does not turn the football over and uh like
I could tell you with a stud receiver. I mean,

(01:35:48):
Teddy Bridgewater had a great rapport with Mike Thomas. They
performed very well together. They'd had Mike Evans and Chris
Godwin there. I think that would be a good fit.
I do say there are other fits. Who knows if
Tom Brady leaves, but I still think that New England
might be a good fit for Teddy Bridgewater. I also
feel like the Charges would be a good fit for

(01:36:10):
Teddy Bridgewater, So I do think they are suitors that
will be out and about for Teddy Bridgewater. What, um,
how likely are the Saints to be back at the
level they've been at the past couple of years where
Brady's I mean, breezes skills have diminished some. But also like, look,
they're kind of top heavy now with their salaries to
some of their best players. I don't think a salary

(01:36:33):
cap is a big problem. Uh. Look, they can light
and load very quickly and open some cap space uff
and and and they've dealt with with a big cat
number for Drew Brees for uh since two thousand twelves,
I mean, and so there were some lean us there,
but of course the last three years there were some
big years there. So I still think that the Saints

(01:36:53):
are one of the best teams in the NFL going
in the next year, despite what happened in the playoffs
last year. But do they need to improve? Sure? I
think they need to find some complimentary pieces some Mike Thomas,
I think Alvin Camara's gotta play better. Uh. Is there
some question marks maybe a little more this year than
as opposed to leaving last year. Probably, But do I

(01:37:15):
think this team is still a Super Bowl contender. Uh,
when they walk into the season, I think absolutely. Uh,
Doug Olive show here on Fox Sports Trading. Is it
fair to say, though, that that he had some He
showed some age both the last two years at the
end of the season. I would disagree this year. I

(01:37:35):
would say yes the year before because Drew Brees played
great the final five pre games of the regular season. Uh,
and he fell off in the playoff game. I think
that was just a bad game overall. Now in eight team, Uh,
do I think there was some drop off there? Yeah?
I think there was. And uh, you know, do I

(01:37:58):
think that the five games he missed was sort of
a little bit of a blessing in disguise or to
some injury. Probably so. But that's all the more intriguing
to where Drew Brees seems open to the idea of
Taysom Hill actually taking more snaps at quarterback than we've
ever seen. And I think that's also intriguing to Taysom

(01:38:19):
Hill staying with the Saints. So you bottle all that
up and I think I think Sean Payton it's not
going to be a three quarterback system, but I think
it's gonna be more Taysom Hill than maybe we've seen
in the past. Awesome, awesome stuff, really interesting. Larry Holder,
he covers the Saints for The Athletic Read his work.

(01:38:39):
We appreciate you. Join us Larry on Fox Sports Radio.
You gotta dog take care, Buddy, Doug got live show
here on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, we sold music,
you sold. Saints are back, Saints Super Bull contender. I
think they will still be among some of the stronger

(01:38:59):
teams in the NFL. Sure, I mean, there's so much
that's going to happen between now in the start of
next season. I don't know if I automatically consider and
tell you they will be a Super Bowl contender. But sure,
they'll still be amongst the top teams in the NFC.
But I mean, that's the problem is they have to
go through what I think will be a tough NFC.

(01:39:20):
I think Seahawks should still be good. I think the
Rams will be better than what they were last year.
Forty Niners should still be a really strong team, So
they may get away with the Buccaneers being in flux,
the Panthers being in flux, who knows what the Falcons
are going to be So if they can get that
home field advantage throughout or at least a first round

(01:39:42):
by in a in a second round home playoff game,
then they're right back in the NFC Championship. But I
I am not sold that they're automatically right back as
one of the best teams in the NFL. Yeah, I'm
with you as well. I'm with you as well. I'm
not I'm not there as they just run it back,
they're find that they're better. There's there, there's other moving

(01:40:04):
parts there to their team, which you know we have
to you know, we we gotta point out. Um. The
interesting thing about the Saints is they seem to have
regularly been among one of the best records at the
end of the year, but they've also always been constantly
trying to make moves. So I don't know if I'm
if I should be giving credit to them for never

(01:40:25):
being satisfied or if they've somehow found a way around
their roster deficiencies to still win games. Because a few
years ago, remember they kicked the tires on Dez Bryant.
He never ended up playing for the Saints because he
tore his achilles, but they knew that they still needed
more playoff makers. And last year they had the whole
thing with g Norris Jenkins, where Genorris Jenkins, you know,

(01:40:47):
said some things you shouldn't have said, got cut from
the Giants that ended up getting picked up for the Saints.
So they're always looking at their roster and knowing that,
as you had said, you know, they're a little bit
top heavy and don't really have the up as other
teams do. So I sort of looked at it and
I go at some point that ultimately is going to
be where they're coming up short. But they've also had

(01:41:10):
injury problems, especially on their defensive line. So perhaps if
they stay healthy, Yeah, I mean, this could be the
year that they finally get to go out on top
with your brees. Yeah. I remember they brought in Antonio
Brown as well. Uh, he did not think. He thought
it was a joke, of a of a tryout whatever.
He did not think. He did not have nice things
to say afterwards, dan BYO, what would you want to

(01:41:31):
get into. Well, I just I think that when we
look at the Saints, we do think that it is
all Drew Brees connected, and maybe Alvin Camara's production is
Drew Brees connected. But Kimara did not have what we
would have thought would have been a Kimearra type of year.
And I think that that's something that's interesting as well
of where this team in terms of playmakers. I mean,

(01:41:53):
he scored, he played in fourteen games, um, and there's
no injury really history however, just looking at his numbers
here seven nine yards on the ground, five dred and
thirty three yards receiving a few impact games. But how
many times this year were you saying, Wow, Alvin Camari
is taking over this game, which I felt like was

(01:42:14):
something that we said two years ago. Maybe the Seattle
game this year was one of them. But you know
that's something as well. When you talk about lack of playmakers,
he's also considered one of them, him and Michael Thomas.
But Camaro wasn't even that great this past season. Nope, nope, UM.
And I think the league a little bit catching up,
although not to Michael Thomas. I can't see him. It's
really remarkable the volume of catches, uh that that that

(01:42:37):
he cant you know, really really really remarkable. Uh, Doug
Ola show here on Fox Sports Radio. Here's what I
wanna do. I want to get to the press. Uh
coming next, Dan's got a ton of stuff. Update on
Ryan Newman's condition, more on on Drew Brees, and um
the latest on the buy out market which the Clippers

(01:43:02):
apparently are gonna land Patrick Beverley. That's up coming next.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
The Press. We don't keep official records around here on
the press, but I think I am safe safe to

(01:43:22):
say this is the longest press I have ever put together.
I mean, it is story after story after story. Let's
start with the best news of the day, Roush Fenway
Racing saying Ryan Newman is awake and speaking with family
and doctors. He remains hospitalized in Florida following yesterday's crash
at the Daytona five hundred. No update given on the

(01:43:45):
condition that he is in. Yesterday they said serious condition
with non life threatening injuries. But as you heard me
say speaking with family and doctors, well that's amazing. I
mean when you saw that crash, just how does any
how does anybody survive it? And non life threatening injuries
mean that he's gonna be okay? You know, are gonna

(01:44:07):
be some some form of Okay, it's just I mean,
I it just really really crazy and awesome, awesome news.
So many weighing in on the Astros cheating scandal. First,
Aaron Judge of the New York Yankees. Yeah, I don't
think it holds any value with you know, you cheated
and you didn't earn it. You know, That's that's how
I feel. As it wasn't earned. You know, it wasn't

(01:44:28):
earned the way if you know, playing the game right
and fight until it ended. Mm hmm. Judge judging the
Astros all rise. Yeah, Well then did you see Lebron's tweet? Oh? Yeah,
I was getting to it. Yeah, that's all right. I
was gonna play the nick mar caicus um in the meeting.
I like that because I want to talk about whether

(01:44:49):
or not he said beamed or beat. Okay, I feel
like every single guy over there needs a beating. You know,
it's it's wrong. Maybe they're messing with people's careers. You know.
I know we're all competitive and all we're out there competing,
but there's right ways to do it, the wrong ways
to do it, and uh disagree with the way they
did it. Yeah, and there's there's Nick mar Caicus. Do

(01:45:16):
we have Dougay music stops? No? I don't know. John.
Are you all right? Oh? John's doing this with his
toes today, So it's those Tuesday he's running. That was
Nick Mark Cake is stuck? Did you so you're you're convinced,
he says. Beating beating? Yeah, team beating over here. I

(01:45:40):
feel like every single guy over there needs a beating. Yeah,
beating beating. It's baseball, not beating beating, not beating beaning.
All right, you'll stay on that side. Lebron James not
weighing in on the astro scandal tweeting. Listen, I don't
play baseball, and I am in sports, and I know

(01:46:01):
if someone cheated me out of winning the title and
I found out about it, I would be bleeping I rate.
I mean like uncontrollabout, uncontrollable about what I would slash
could do. He also had some more to that, but
that was the the first tweet set out by Lebron James.
H m hm. We got some more to talk about

(01:46:21):
with Lebron. We'll get to at the end of the
press because because yet another player that could have signed
with anybody at a position that the Lakers need to
chose to not sign with him. Alright. This news in
the NBA as well. Cavaliers and head coach John bee
Line expected to part ways by Wednesday, according to The
Athletic and ESPN. So that went, well, Yeah, he's making
a bee Line out of Cleveland. I can't believe no

(01:46:44):
one made that joke. If it's it's amazing. Uh, Piston's guard,
Reggie Jackson working on a buyout from the team. You'll
sign with the Clippers once he becomes a free agent.
So that's what you want to hit on at the end. No,
I I just I look, I think it's curious that
here's Reggie Jackson, like, yeah, I'd rather play for the Clippers,

(01:47:05):
where I'm definitely gonna be a backup than the Lakers,
where I could maybe be a starter. That doesn't tell
you what people think about playing with Lebron. I don't
know what what what does? News just in from the
NFL greg Olsen signing a one year deal with the
Seattle Seahawks, According to ESPN, one year, seven million dollars
for Olsen to not retire and play again. He's gonna

(01:47:26):
sign with Seahawks. Yes, Well, you're happy about that, Yes, yes,
they were. Basically they were down to one healthy tight
end towards the end of the year. LUKEA you get,
I mean, I got. He's a stud. He's a really
good Yeah, great dude and down back as well. So
I can't believe that. I can't believe the Patriots didn't

(01:47:47):
or I couldn't get it, couldn't get a sit down
with him. Greg Not only did greg Olson apparently agreed
to terms of the Seahawks, the Falcons bringing back young
Way Coup on a one year deal. So I wanted
to throw that and they remember thought of is not
being the answer for the Chargers, and then you know,
finds his place in Atlanta. Clemson and Georgia will open
up the college football season playing each other. Okay, Clemson

(01:48:12):
Georgia are like like an hour and a half from
each other, right, yes, but and and Charlotte is on
the other sides, on kind of the Clemson side whatever,
But it's close. And I'm sure I'm guessing they'll play
again in Atlanta maybe the next year or something like that.
But why not playing their home stadiums? I know, the
Athens and Death Valley, two of my top five college

(01:48:34):
football venues that I've been probably the top three. Clemson
is my favorite. Actually have all of them. And you
went you went there this past year, right, two years ago,
two years ago, not last year, not this year. Okay, alright? Uh.
Some of their baseball notes to pass along. The Oakland
A's will become the first major League Baseball team to
not have a flagship radio station to broadcast their games.

(01:48:58):
The team will provide all of their game only on
a streaming service. So you know, we have the l
a King's doing that here in Los Angeles on the
I Heart radio app, but the A's not won't be
able to find them on the dial in the Bay Area.
Mm hmm um. Sign of the time. They do not

(01:49:21):
They do not have a home radio market. Yeah, they
did not come to terms on an agreement. They are
going to just stream their games only. That's weird. That's weird,
like baseball was always about radio. Yes, they baseball and
radio are tied together like peanut butter is tied to jelly.
I cannot believe that the A's won't have that's It

(01:49:42):
is a sign of the times. And look we noticed
it with how many how few of local markets there
were at the Super Bowl at Media Day. Because it's
all become about national radio. The radio right killed the radio,
video killed the radio star. There is something cool about

(01:50:04):
having radio on in the summer. Listen to a ballgame.
You almost feel like you would talk like this, see
back in the day. See there's a bean ball she man.
There is about getting you know, in the Midwest you
could get you can get dials. Cam O X out
of St. Louis would be stretched all the way to

(01:50:27):
where I lived in north central Wisconsin. So the Cardinals
were on the West coast, like playing the Dodgers late,
you could actually listen and here, uh yeah, some of
those big sticks you can you can hear from a
long ways. This is how I know we have tons
in the press. I'm jumping from sport to sport. Chief's
offensive coordinator Eric bi Enemy likely won't be the next
head coach at Colorado. The report says there was quote

(01:50:49):
no major traction between the two sides. According to ESPN, yeah,
he um. I talked to some people in the in
the Colorado search. Um and one they want a sitting
head coach because now this will be a third head
coach in three years. Two it wasn't great when he
was there. He was involved in some stuff that And three,

(01:51:10):
he look, he has the reputation of not being a
great organizers CEO guy. He's just not there yet. And um,
I just there's a reason he hasn't gotten a job
yet in the NFL. Doesn't mean he's a horrible person
or a horrible coach or as major baggage. These jobs
are really hard to get and it's it's interesting that

(01:51:30):
there's not the undying faith of his own university to
get offered that job. Finally, Doug, we started with some
good news, will end with some good news. Blues defenseman
j baume Easter says he's returned to St. Louis and
is on the road to recovery following his cardiac episode
during a game in Anaheim last week. Well, it's pretty
amazing that he's okay, but still very very scary. And
that's the pressure that was the press. I just I

(01:51:55):
think that what people have to understand. I don't think
it's just about the Clippers why Reggie Jackson won to
play there. I think it's a it's a strict not
the Lakers vote. They need a scoring, they need him.
You can play out the ball, can play with the ball.
He's not as athletic get into the room as he
used to be. But I mean he can provide you
points and they need bench depth, they need another point guard,

(01:52:17):
and he is not going there. So what does that mean?
What does that mean? I mean that that means that
I don't think he wants to get scowled at. I
don't think he wants to get called out on I
G I don't. I mean, look, Lebron is not I
said this on tv J. People lose their mind. He's
not a top five player in the NBA anymore, can't

(01:52:38):
guard dudes anymore, can't get a step anymore. Still really
really talented, can play bullyball, can get to the rim.
Doesn't He's not a bad player. There's a difference between
being the greatest player, best player in the NBA and
being a top you know, top ten, top fifteen age player.
That's who he is. And the way it works with
Team Lebron is if something goes wrong, it's not Lebron's faults,

(01:53:02):
everybody else's fault. And some guys just aren't down on that.
You know. It's one of those things where it wasn't
smart or Kyle Kuzma's uh workout coach to to tweet
to tweet what what he tweeted about Lebron not being
in the lab working on his defense, working on his game.

(01:53:23):
But it's how a lot of people feel. There is
their overwhelming feeling that Lebron is Hollywood. If you're not
with his agent, then you shouldn't be with the Lakers.
And if things go wrong, it's going to be your fault.
And and those things seem to have some truth to him.
And that's got to be a good portion of why

(01:53:45):
Reggie Jackson has chosen after being bought out. So it's
not about money, It's simply about who do you want
to try and win a championship with the Lakers and Clippers.
He chose the Clippers again. Words that would never come
up at any time previously, is I choose the Clippers
over the Lakers, John, and I We've lived here our

(01:54:06):
whole lives, right, John, I mean that just never no
one ever fathomed that the Clippers could be not just
on equal footing, but chosen before the Lakers when the
Lakers have championship prospects. I agree, right, I know you
do John, That's why I pay you. All Ball podcast
drops tomorrow. It's a good one. Garrison Matthews of the Wizards,
what a great story. Check us out tomorrow. On First

(01:54:27):
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