March 26, 2020 • 33 mins
Doug argues Tom Brady in Tampa Bay with Bruce Arians is not a great fit. He’s also tired of people questioning NFL teams for not signing Cam Newton. Plus, Chargers DE Joey Bosa joins the show to talk about the “Tiger King” and which QB the Chargers should draft.
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of the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio. Some
people are really adapted change, they really are. Some people
do change exceptionally. Well. I've said this before that a transition.
Change is good. Transition is hard, all right, it is
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really And that's where I want to start. That's where
I want to start with with Tom Brady in Tampa Bay.
I do think that by and large we are missing
a massive, massive hole in the Hey, put Tom Brady
with those weapons and boom, all of a sudden, you
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have yourselves a great football team, a good, a talented
team that stopped the run last year. Brings back in
Dominican Sue brings back you know that all their offensive weaponry.
Likely it is they add a tackle in the right
tackle in the draft and then add some young running
back help and boom, all of a sudden, you got
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yourself a football team. Tom Brady the most accomplished and
greatest quarterback of all time by some people's estimation, most
accomplished by no one else's. It's obvious, right, Six Super
Bowl wins, nine Superow appearances added on to Bruce Arians,
who's had incredible success, incredible success with quarterbacks, and you
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have yourself a marriage made in heaven. If Tom Brady
only had weapons last year, he would be great. He
would be great. And while it's true, oh that three
of of the last eleven years a tight end has
been the leading receiver from Tom Brady, do you want
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to know what happened the other eight years? A matter
of fact, since Tom Brady took over, Since Tom Brady
took over, who are his go to guys? All right,
where's it going to? Guys? Um? Troy Brown, Dion Branch,
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David Gibbons, Rashi Calwell? What you know? The lost in
the Super Bowl? Six year Randy Moss and for five
straight years Wes Welker led them in receptions and five
other years, excuse me, four other years Julian Edelman led
them interceptions. This idea that Tom Brady can throw the
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deep ball, will throw the deep ball for a coach
who likes to chuck it and duck it deep. Here's
Bruce Arians on ESPN talking about Brady throwing the deep ball.
I think wrong. I thought deep ball was outstanding last
year to their play actually name, they hit a lot
of deep balls, and our quarterback, I thought he put
it as good as anybody toll of the guy that's
open and throw to the guy who's open. That sounds
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great in theory, but in practice, Tom Brady throws underneath
two tight ends and two diminutive slot wide receivers. That's
always been his go too. We all have our defaults, right,
we all have our defaults things we go back to
that no matter how much you try something new, you're
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always gonna resort to what you've always done. Take Lebron
James for example. Two years ago, Lebron James came to
l A and said, hey, you guys want me to
move the basketball, I'll move the basketball. And then as
the season evolved, he said, hey, look, second quarter, fourth quarter.
You know who I am. I'm Lebron James. You know
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how we're gonna play. And by this year he was
back to playing is a ball, to being the point guard,
to being the facilitator for everybody. When people say Lebron
James is the system, that translates into hey, Lebron can
only really play one way. Now, it's been really successful,
really successful, and you have to have the specific pieces
that fit with how Lebron plays. But you're going to
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play Lebron's way, right Tom Brady is inheriting, is going
to a team that has really good pieces, but they
don't fit what he does. They just don't. He needs
a running back who catches it out of the backfield.
He needs a slot wide receiver that's always open on
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third down. Here's Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout Moved the
Sticks podcast, se him on the NFL Network on the
fit between Brady and the Bucks. To me, it's not
the scheme, it's how the personnel matches him. And while
I love all those receivers they have down the field
and the tight ends are good, but they don't have
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that pass catching back that he's always had. They don't
have that quick, sudden, get open right now receiver that's
going to give him some of those easy completions, those
easy layups, not saying that Tom can't push the ball
down the fields, but this is how he's played for
the last you know, fifteen years. Yeah, you know, there's
the classic cliche of teaching an old dog new tricks,
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and I will say this with the coronavirus. Does is
anyone happier than dogs right now? Because their people are
always home? My dog actually is kind of his equilibrium
is kind of thrown off. He he's used to a
mid morning nap. I have I have the world's greatest dog.
I know everybody thinks they have the world's greatest dog.
I literally do. I have a sheep of doodle, easy
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to train, great around kids. He's he's a gentle giant.
He's eighty pounds. He's a big old boy, gets along
with everybody and every dog, and his equilibrium is thrown
off a little bit because he's used to a mid
morning nap. Instead, he's got the kids, uh in their
you know, their home school. What do they call it? U?
Distance learning? Right? I love this distance learning? You mean homeschool? No? No, no,
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it's distant learning. Yes, you're doing schooling at home and
parents are doing most of the work, but it's distance learning.
Got it, Got it. But you know the old cliche
about teaching an old dog new tricks. My dog every
every single morning, comes to my side of the bed,
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banks into the bed until I get up, and then
he goes and he waits by the front door because
he knows we're going to the park and he's gonna
go and find the bushes. And again, this is why
his world's greatest dog. He takes a dump in the bushes. Sorry,
I can't pick it up deep in the bushes. You
take him to a different park, you put a leash
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on him, you don't take him to the park, and
he's he doesn't know what to do with himselves old
dog new tricks. And he's only four years old. Tom
Brady has been doing the same thing for fifteen years.
He hasn't thrown the ball deep downfield since Randy Moss
and he wrecked the league. You know what year that was.
That was the year two thousand seven. This is two
thousand twenty we're talking about right now. So I understand
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he can throw the deep ball. No one's saying he's
Peyton Manning at the end of his career physically can't
throw a football. I'm saying the idea that you're going
to get the best of Tom Brady, when the best
of Tom Brady over the last twelve seasons or so
is dank and dunk underneath, find the open guy, read
the defense, running back out of the backfield, wide receiver
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who's in the slot, getting open tight end? Like, yeah,
they have two good tight ends, but but this feels
completely different. And whether it's old dog new tricks or
whether it's Lebron James what he he, everybody ultimately resorts
to their default. You can try and say I'm a
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different man, I'm a new man, I'm gonna try to
try things or whatever. But at some point, especially during
times of crises when you don't know what's coming next,
or when you know, like, what are you gonna do?
I mean, this is what happened to Brett Farve. The
The issue with Brett Farve wasn't ever arm strength, never,
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it was Brett Farve didn't like to read defenses. Brett
Farve liked his place. I had a friend who was
on the New York Jets coaching staff back when Farther's
on the Jets, and they would come in with the
play sheet, you know, on the Friday night, they'd sit
down with Brett and like, man, we really like this,
we really like that. We werely like this and Farvard go, no, no, no,
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give me two wide receivers, give me a guy in motion,
give me one back deep Why because that's all Brett
far ever knew from his time in Green Bay. It's
all you ever knew. And and though Brady's offense has
changed um and varied some the idea that Tom Brady
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can throw the deep ball, so he will throw the
deep ball because he threw a pretty deep ball last year,
that's not who he's been. And asking a guy at
forty three years old to be something he hadn't been
in twelve years, you're asking him to reset his default.
Everybody has every video game, every computer, every phone. We
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all have default settings. People have default settings, and and
and can we stop with the Mike Evans is Randy
Moss thing? Right? Are we really? Is that what we're
really gonna do here? He's a nice player. They have
two good wide receivers. Now they put up crazy numbers
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because he had Jamis Winston who had to throw it
a ton because he either dave it away a bunch
or was going to give it away a bunch, so
they kept throwing, kept scoring. It's a completely different league
when you're playing for championships. When you're the hunter, hunt
deed is supposed to the hunter, and when you're playing
with Brady, and and look, Brady's whole thing is precision,
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everyone knowing exactly what they're doing, where they're doing. Like,
there's a reason it's worked in New England this long.
And it's not just Tom freaking Brady. There's a lot
to it. So I'm not sitting here predicting gloom and
doom and telling you Tom Brady is gonna stink. I'm
saying the idea, just this idea that when you put
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Tom Brady with those with those skill position players, he
didn't have a skill position players, so he like, Look,
they still won twelve games, and one of the reasons
is he still found a way to find Edelman. They
were still marvelously coached. They still at least last year,
had Dante Scarneckia working with the offensive line. All of
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those things change. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app Cam Newton was released and you see all
these guys, you got a bunch of them, especially on ESPN,
saying Cam Newton is better than this guy. Cam Newton
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is better than that guy. Cam Newton should be with
with the Chargers, the Bears. How could the Bears and
the Chargers pass up on Cam Newton, m VP of
the league five years ago? How could they do that?
And today on Instagram, Cam Newton was working out in
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his personal gym, flexing, looking big, saying things like this
what we do in sorry, saying they quit on me.
They gave up on me, all right, they being the
Carolina Panthers. Okay, but in the real world it's a
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regime change. This is what happened. I've worked at three
different places that all of them are different, and all
of them are the same. The guy who brought you in,
the guy who believed in you, that's the guy you
better make happy. That's the guy you tie your ship too.
And if he gets fired, boy you are You're a
ship wandering at sea, ship wandering and see. But if
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he goes to another place, you follow him. You follow him.
That's what generally what happens. I mean, if you want
inside the Beltway stuff at at at Fox Sports. Like look,
when Colin Cowherd came to Fox Sports, he followed a
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guy who had started his show is TV show at ESPN.
And then of course, you know one of the lead
producers is now one of our executives here at Fox
Sports Radio. Guys you had worked with before, Guys that
you respect, Guys you don't know the business. Know, you
embrace you in your style, You embrace them in their style.
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Right do you do you want a little bit more
money to change? Of course, of course, but there has
to be some inherent trust because if you go and
work for people you've never worked before. I've done that.
Then all of a sudden you sit down and you're
just you, and they're like, yeah, I don't really love you,
but you hired me, didn't you know? Like no, I
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mean we just thought we mentioned a meeting and we
everybody liked you, and I thought you're good and all right,
you gotta have knowledge of it. Ron Rivera took the
Washington Redskins job. He got as close to autonomous power
as you can get with the Redskins. He told us
to such at the Super Bowl. He's told everybody that
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Dan that Dan Gilbert and I did the Dan Snyder.
Dan Snyder, the owner of the Redskins, said I'm gonna
step away. I'm gonna trust you. Remember this is the
Dan Snyder whose kid went to high school with Dwyne Haskins,
and that reportedly is why they drafted Dayne Haskins last year.
So you're gonna bring Scott Turner and that's the son
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of Norv Turner. Norv Turner worked with the Panthers. Scott
Turner worked with the Panthers. You're being Scott over from
Carolina as well as several other members of your front office,
and you're coaching staff to transplant to the Redskins. Why
because you've worked together. They know you, you know them,
and you believe that if you do it your way,
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it works. And for Ron Rivera, the proof is in
the pudding. He went to the Super Bowl a couple
of years ago with the number one defense and the
number one running game and a quarterback that won the
m v P. Sure they didn't play against the the
one team I think above five records, all right, but
his ability or that team's ability to win with Cam Newton,
who was a low percentage passer and survive when Cam
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Newton was often injured in a smaller market like Carolina,
and do so and do so well. You know, at times,
turnover with players remarkable. And you're play against the Falcons
who went to Super Bowl, the Saints who have been
a dominant team last couple of years. Like all this stuff,
Ron Rivera brought guys over that he knew, that he respected,
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that he trusted in his coaching staff, in his front office,
and he had the opportunity to bring one quarterback over.
That quarterback was not Cam Newton, it was Kyle Allen.
Take a listen to what Ron Rivera says about bringing
over Kyle Allen's what we do. You understand our system.
You know, Scotty turns our offensive coordinator. You know we're
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using them as a system that we had basically had
him placed for nine seasons. And Kyles, the young quarterback
he had some success, is good in the locker room.
He understands what I'm looking for. You understand what Scotty's
looking for. So hopefully we can take that and use
it to our advantage with our with our new team.
You got all of these guys on TV and radio
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saying how did the Chargers. Who, by the way, why
the Chargers have Tyrod Taylor instead of Cam Newton? Huh?
Tyrod Taylor was a starting quarterback with Buffalo Bills. They
went to the playoffs. Who was his play caller? Anthony Lynn?
Who's his head coach? Now? Anthony Lynn? They worked together.
They trust each other. This is not that hard, I
swear to God. Why did the Bears go out and
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get Nick Foles? How do you go out and get
Nick Foles? Well, because Nick Foles played for Matt Nagy,
He played for John D. Philippo, He played for all
of their offensive coaching staff. He played for before either
in Philadelphia or Kansas City, and Naggi played for in both.
They worked together, he played for. They understand how each
other works and they respect each other. Ron Rivera has
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the chance to bring over a quarterback and you can say, well, Cam,
it was making nineteen million, and Cam Newton right now
is making zero. When you get cut, you don't make
a pet You got nothing, there's no contract details, nothing, zero.
So the idea, I don't know what Cam Newton, he
probably wants a multi year deal whatever. But if you
want to say that, well, Kyle Allen makes thousand dollars.
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Camy was making a nineteen right now, Calviny, he could
have waited it out. He knew nobody was trading for
Cam Newton. He didn't. He trade a fifth round pick
for Kyle Allen. Why he's good in the locker room,
knows what he's doing, knows what we expect. Had some
success in the league, same offense for nine years, the
same offense that Cam Newton ran. Cam Dowon had success.
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He went to his Super Bowl, he was heavy. B
Ron Rivera is telling you can't play anymore. He doesn't
want him. That's all you need to know. You don't
need to accost the Chargers. You don't need to accost
the Bears. Oh, the league, the league, that's not the league.
It's Ron Rivera, who everybody respects. Right When Ron Rivera
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took the job of the Redskin's like, man, I really
like Ron Rivera. Why don't he take the Redskins job?
That's because you like and respect Ron Rivera and you
don't feel the same about the owner. Right. So if
a guy that everybody respects, everybody is a former player,
a really good coach, you know a guy who does
it the right way and builds a culture and toughness
and breaks over and the guy he leaves behind, he's like, Yo,
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where's the it's the boy. Yeah you could come. No,
no, no no, we're full, We're full full here. Sorry, we'll
take Kyle, We'll take your backup. We'll take a rookie,
a guy who got beat out twice in college. Twice
in college. That's all you need to know. Does it
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mean that Cam Newton stinks? No? Does it mean that
he's not better? Like if you go throw with with
an empty stadium to just wide receivers Like, No, it does.
Doesn't mean that Cam Newton is a bad football player.
It just means there's something there in terms of his leadership,
his ability to stay healthy. Right, part of ability is availability.
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Football players say it all the time. Dudes hurt all
the time. Cam's about Cam, Cam's not about the team.
And and and here's a lesson. No GM has ever
opened up their Instagram and said, oh, Cam Newton's lifting weights. Oh,
he's motivated to be great, proved people wrong. He's the
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only guy in the NFL that's lifting weights and motivated
to prove people wrong. I didn't think we wanted Cam Newton. Frankly,
I'm surprised that not only did the Redskins, but the Bills,
Guy Bills, that coaching staff came from Carolina and Carolina
all of them passed on Cam Newton. I'm a little
surprised there. But now that I see him working out
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on my Instagram, Hey, somebody get Cam Newton's agent on
the phone. Let's give him mull to your deal. He
wants to be great. Raiders needed a quarterback. Did they
sign Cam Newton? Nope? Did they wait? Boop Marcus Mariota.
It's all you need to know. I'm guessing from the
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time that John Gruden sat down with Cam Newton and
he said, tell me a play call you had an Auburn.
He said six. That was a play called they had
at aubur Six. I mean six, what was the formation?
We just called it six? Go back and look there's
tape of this like that. This is the every interview is.
You're making an impression for your future, for your future employment.
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Instagram may love Cam Newton's hat, suits, glasses, he looks
clean man scarves. I don't know what's going on the
scarf thing. It's just weird. But whatever you can get
away with it. Instagram may love it. TV Pundance may
love it. They may tell you that the Chargers don't
know what they're doing, the Bears don't know what they're doing.
But if the Redskins don't want him, why should anybody else? There?
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There are pair parallel parallel worlds. We live on the
same planet in a different universe. The people who are
in this Tiger King big Cat thing, I swear to
God that is that is a different universe in the
world I live in. And these people that say Cam
Newton is still an elite quarterback when he's only really
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had one great year, one good year, and a bunch
of uh in uh inaccurate years, Like look at his career.
It's nine years and he's consistently inconsistent. And when you're
consistently inconsistent, you're inconsistent. And when your longtime head coach
brings over everybody and leaves you behind and you don't
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have a job, there's no don't give me the salary
cap crap tells you all you need to know. Those
Cam Newton fandom I g lovers that think, well, now
you signed Cam Newton. That is a parallel universe. To
the one in the real NFL and the real NFL.
You gotta go that somebody like you, trust you, knows you.
And he had that chance to stay, to go to Buffalo,
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to go to the Redskins, and everybody passed, you know.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter Noon Pacific.
Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. His brother Nick just
playing the Super Bowl. He told us back when Nick was,
you know, two years ago, three years ago. He's in college.
He's like, mom, Nick's gonna be better than me. Nick's
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better than me. But he's pretty damn good in his
own right. He's Joey Bosa of the l A Chargers.
He joins us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Joey, how
are you? Hey? Not bad? How are you doing? Good man?
Where are you? I'm at home in Florida? How is
how is? I mean? You're active guy? You know you're
you're young, you got money. You should be getting ready
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for the offseason, be training. What's this like? What's this
experience like for you? Yeah, it's definitely different. Um. I
tend to spend a lot of my times relaxing inside.
So it's not too big of a change, but you know,
it's obviously we're just trying to be safe and stay
as ready as we can and you know, keep keep
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doing what we can until we get locked down here,
which is probably gonna happen here pretty soon. But it's, uh,
just the simple pleasures of going, being able to go
get a bite to eat every once in a while.
That's it's tough not being able to It's definitely a
different field around spring break with the streets being empty
and foot letter Alright, so are you able to go
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in train? Because in southern California you can't go and
you have to go and it's like a speakeasy, right,
You got like not three times to get into place
to go. Train has got to be secret. Are you
guys still able to go train it? Yeah, there's we
have a spot right now. It's it's kind of like that.
It's it's completely shut down and we go by ourselves,
um at a certain time. And I'm sure we're going
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to get, like I said, locked down pretty soon and
then they're going to have more cops patrolling. Right now,
we're still free to go about as we want. The
parks are getting closed down, the beaches are getting closed down,
so we try to get up early enough to go
get a running at the parks. But the last few
days we've been getting kicked off by some of the
park rangers. So we're just trying to make it work.
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But obviously safety comes first. Have you broken out there?
Don't you know? Who? Have you broken out there? Do
you know who I am? Thank yet, I don't do
that very well. I'll let my let my trainer do
that for me. But no, they're they're pretty understanding. Obviously
they don't I really want to be going around kicking
kids off fields. It's not what they're really looking forward
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to do. But they usually cooperate pretty well with us.
There's not much they can do. Have you watched Tiger
King yet? No, that's That's what I've been hearing about.
So I have I'm on I'm on episode five. I'm
not I'm not gonna give you any way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I don't really. I've heard from a couple of people.
I might check it out this weekend. Yeah, you're pretty
much gonna go Oh my god, every one of these
people there's I feel so much better about myself, any
any issue that actually exist. Yes, yes, it's like this,
there's no way this is real. And then like, actually
this is real, this actually really existed, really really happy. Yeah,
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it's hard to surprise me anymore in today's today's world.
You know, you this this one I would love to
I'm going to guess you might be more than mildly surprised,
even even shocked at the varying story. It's not just
one story, it's a bunch of different Like, oh, I
can't I mean, I can't heard. I was listening to
podcasts and they were mentioning a little bit that he
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has a hundred and fifty cats or whatever. And one
lady got her arm bit off and came back to
work the next week. So I think I think that's
enough to give me in Yes, yes, one of his
one of his workers had her arm bit off and
she spent she was only she only missed work for
five days. And we all think we're tough. We're like, yeah,
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you probably a lot cut off his finger, Like, she
got her arm bit off and she gave back, and
you know what, honestly, on the scale of one to crazy,
that's closer to one with some of the other parts
of the story. I swear to you well good Joey
Bosa joining us in the Doug Otlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, what's your feeling over the first over
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phil Philip Rivers leading mutual parting ways going to the Colts.
He's the only quarterback that you've ever known during your
NFL career. How does that sit with you? Yeah, it's
gonna be different not having him in the in the
locker room after the last four years or it's been
can't believe it's Hardy's been four years. But I mean,
I'm happy for him. We got a great deal. He's
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gonna go into a place, so I'm sure he'll fit in. Well. Uh, definitely,
no hard feelings on either side, I don't think. And
I'm excited to see who we're going to get. I
don't know if she's gonna be Philip Rivers caliber in
the first year or what, but I'm excited to see.
I really have zero idea who it's going to be,
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so there's a lot of uncertainty with that, but I'm sure.
I'm sure they have people in mind. Did you did
you did you think that you were getting Tom Brady
oh yeah, for a little bit. I think I was
hearing from some people that there was a very good
chance of that, and I mean I would I wouldn't
complain about getting Tom Brady, that's for sure. You know,
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here's my here's my defense of Tom Talasco, who drafted you.
It's like he drafts you, he drafts Melvin Ingram, he
drafts Derwin James, Um you find you know, Austin Ekeler obviously,
Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, all these guys. So there's this,
there's this kind of like, well, you know, you gotta
go and sign this guy or sign that guy. Why
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wouldn't she trust a guy who's drafted so well to
draft the next quarterback if he proven the ability to
see talent in the NFL draft, right right? Yeah, I
think he's definitely done a good job, especially in the
last few drafts or all the ones you've named there,
Hunter Henry another one to But yeah, I mean I
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haven't really watched much of the quarterbacks so other than
two or Joe, So I mean I would I would
love to have Joe Burrow on my team, that's for sure.
But I haven't watched much of I think Herbert from
from Oregon or whatever. I haven't watched much of them, so, uh,
I don't know. I'm excited to see I No, I
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don't know how I feel about having a rookie QB
after having having a o G like filled back there
for so long. I think people are gonna be like, man,
we really had a good when we had sill over here.
But hopefully we draft somebody or pick somebody up and
they come in because we definitely have the pieces to
surround him joining us in the doug Otlip Show on
Fox Sports, right, the one thing he does do if
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you have hi Rod and a rookie quarterback is freeze
up some money. And somebody's coming up on their fifth year.
Huh huh who's that? I don't I don't know. Oh
uh some cat named Bosa. Uh where are you guys
with that? I know where there's There hasn't been much talk.
I think most of it's been clouded by by the
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pandemic and everything that's been going on. I haven't really
been talking to to to anybody there. Tom texts me
the other day, just checking in, and uh, you'll be
the last to know though. Once I find out I
appreciate that. Thank you, thank you for being honest with me. Okay,
let let's just let just give me a percentage chance
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that that that you're a a charger through your next
deal and you're if you're, if you, if I was
the guess your heart of hearts, right, I can't give
you a number, but i'd say there's a very good chance.
I can't. I don't see a trade happening, and I
don't really want to be anywhere else. So I like
where I live, I like my teammates, and I'd love
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to keep playing there for us in my career. But
you never know, anything can happen, but I'd say there's
a very good chance. Okay. So look, your your dad's
kind of a legend, played obviously in his own right,
still in incredible shape. Is he preparing his own kind
of private workouts for when you guys are locked down?
He is he gonna come over and go old school
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push ups, old male workout, you know, nick, nick hop
onto Joey's back and and Joey, you gotta run a mile?
Are there are there Dad workouts that he we can't
hang with that still? So we let him go be
a Madman and run for ten hours on the beach
or wherever it is. And uh, yeah, we can't hang
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We're we're we're definitely more of a short burst kind
of athletes. Then my dad can run for days. It's unbelievable.
Joey Bosa joining us in the Doug Gotlin Show on
Fox Sport Trading. Okay, so you haven't watched Tiger King.
What have you been watching? I actually just finished Return
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of the King Extended, just rewatched all the Lord of
the Rings movies extended. There was a four and a
half hour movie. So it's been pieced together over over
the last couple of weeks, and so we've got a
good twelve hours of of Lord of the Rings and
over the past a couple of weeks, and it's as
great as I ever. I haven't seen him in a while,
so it was a good little recap. You're you're a
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big Lord of the Rings guy. You're a big Elijah
Wood guy. Yeah. I mean he's probably my least favorite character,
but no, it's they're just epic. Especially after how disappointing
Star Wars was, It's good to see good direction and
good acting in a in a fantasy movie. Fantasy trilogy.
You mean the most recent Star Wars, right, So if
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you're terrible, okay, So if your your go to Star
Wars is which one Empire play or New Hope? I
mean both of them. It's hard to choose one Empire
depends whether you do you want to be upset at
the end or do you want to feel good? I
don't know. Empire has one of the great lines in
the history of filmmaking, right, I love you, I know, Right,
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that's the incredible line. That's just plus plus good doesn't
always win. That's the that's the great part about Empire,
right that. I mean, I can't even imagine being in
that theater when that first first dropped. It's something I'm
definitely jealous, just jealous of people back in the eighties.
There are some great movies back then. Yeah, well, Tiger
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King is next. I don't think it. I don't think
is a great movie. But it is. It is that
I cannot believe. Yes, And it's in It's in It's
in Florida, right, half it's in Florida. Half it's in Oklahoma.
There's a little bit in Ohio. In Ohio, there's some
in Ohio, but mostly complete. Yes, yes, it's it's Florida.
It's it's Florida, which is like, oh that makes sense. Yes, Florida, Lahoma, Yeah, yeah,
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more Panhandle, you know, Tampa, Florida. More. It's not it's
not Fort Lauderdale, it's not the not the east side.
Things change when you go up north a little bit. Joey,
great to catch up. Get back to that film watching,
and we want you to you gotta you gotta post
some of those dad workout videos when he starts running
on the beach with no shirt on. Thanks Joey. Likewise,
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Joey Bosa, who said we will be the last to
know when he agrees to a contract extension. See there
you go.
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of the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio. Some
people are really adapted change, they really are. Some people
do change exceptionally. Well. I've said this before that a transition.
Change is good. Transition is hard, all right, it is
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really And that's where I want to start. That's where
I want to start with with Tom Brady in Tampa Bay.
I do think that by and large we are missing
a massive, massive hole in the Hey, put Tom Brady
with those weapons and boom, all of a sudden, you
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have yourselves a great football team, a good, a talented
team that stopped the run last year. Brings back in
Dominican Sue brings back you know that all their offensive weaponry.
Likely it is they add a tackle in the right
tackle in the draft and then add some young running
back help and boom, all of a sudden, you got
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yourself a football team. Tom Brady the most accomplished and
greatest quarterback of all time by some people's estimation, most
accomplished by no one else's. It's obvious, right, Six Super
Bowl wins, nine Superow appearances added on to Bruce Arians,
who's had incredible success, incredible success with quarterbacks, and you
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have yourself a marriage made in heaven. If Tom Brady
only had weapons last year, he would be great. He
would be great. And while it's true, oh that three
of of the last eleven years a tight end has
been the leading receiver from Tom Brady, do you want
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to know what happened the other eight years? A matter
of fact, since Tom Brady took over, Since Tom Brady
took over, who are his go to guys? All right,
where's it going to? Guys? Um? Troy Brown, Dion Branch,
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David Gibbons, Rashi Calwell? What you know? The lost in
the Super Bowl? Six year Randy Moss and for five
straight years Wes Welker led them in receptions and five
other years, excuse me, four other years Julian Edelman led
them interceptions. This idea that Tom Brady can throw the
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deep ball, will throw the deep ball for a coach
who likes to chuck it and duck it deep. Here's
Bruce Arians on ESPN talking about Brady throwing the deep ball.
I think wrong. I thought deep ball was outstanding last
year to their play actually name, they hit a lot
of deep balls, and our quarterback, I thought he put
it as good as anybody toll of the guy that's
open and throw to the guy who's open. That sounds
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great in theory, but in practice, Tom Brady throws underneath
two tight ends and two diminutive slot wide receivers. That's
always been his go too. We all have our defaults, right,
we all have our defaults things we go back to
that no matter how much you try something new, you're
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always gonna resort to what you've always done. Take Lebron
James for example. Two years ago, Lebron James came to
l A and said, hey, you guys want me to
move the basketball, I'll move the basketball. And then as
the season evolved, he said, hey, look, second quarter, fourth quarter.
You know who I am. I'm Lebron James. You know
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how we're gonna play. And by this year he was
back to playing is a ball, to being the point guard,
to being the facilitator for everybody. When people say Lebron
James is the system, that translates into hey, Lebron can
only really play one way. Now, it's been really successful,
really successful, and you have to have the specific pieces
that fit with how Lebron plays. But you're going to
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play Lebron's way, right Tom Brady is inheriting, is going
to a team that has really good pieces, but they
don't fit what he does. They just don't. He needs
a running back who catches it out of the backfield.
He needs a slot wide receiver that's always open on
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third down. Here's Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout Moved the
Sticks podcast, se him on the NFL Network on the
fit between Brady and the Bucks. To me, it's not
the scheme, it's how the personnel matches him. And while
I love all those receivers they have down the field
and the tight ends are good, but they don't have
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that pass catching back that he's always had. They don't
have that quick, sudden, get open right now receiver that's
going to give him some of those easy completions, those
easy layups, not saying that Tom can't push the ball
down the fields, but this is how he's played for
the last you know, fifteen years. Yeah, you know, there's
the classic cliche of teaching an old dog new tricks,
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and I will say this with the coronavirus. Does is
anyone happier than dogs right now? Because their people are
always home? My dog actually is kind of his equilibrium
is kind of thrown off. He he's used to a
mid morning nap. I have I have the world's greatest dog.
I know everybody thinks they have the world's greatest dog.
I literally do. I have a sheep of doodle, easy
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to train, great around kids. He's he's a gentle giant.
He's eighty pounds. He's a big old boy, gets along
with everybody and every dog, and his equilibrium is thrown
off a little bit because he's used to a mid
morning nap. Instead, he's got the kids, uh in their
you know, their home school. What do they call it? U?
Distance learning? Right? I love this distance learning? You mean homeschool? No? No, no,
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it's distant learning. Yes, you're doing schooling at home and
parents are doing most of the work, but it's distance learning.
Got it, Got it. But you know the old cliche
about teaching an old dog new tricks. My dog every
every single morning, comes to my side of the bed,
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banks into the bed until I get up, and then
he goes and he waits by the front door because
he knows we're going to the park and he's gonna
go and find the bushes. And again, this is why
his world's greatest dog. He takes a dump in the bushes. Sorry,
I can't pick it up deep in the bushes. You
take him to a different park, you put a leash
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on him, you don't take him to the park, and
he's he doesn't know what to do with himselves old
dog new tricks. And he's only four years old. Tom
Brady has been doing the same thing for fifteen years.
He hasn't thrown the ball deep downfield since Randy Moss
and he wrecked the league. You know what year that was.
That was the year two thousand seven. This is two
thousand twenty we're talking about right now. So I understand
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he can throw the deep ball. No one's saying he's
Peyton Manning at the end of his career physically can't
throw a football. I'm saying the idea that you're going
to get the best of Tom Brady, when the best
of Tom Brady over the last twelve seasons or so
is dank and dunk underneath, find the open guy, read
the defense, running back out of the backfield, wide receiver
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who's in the slot, getting open tight end? Like, yeah,
they have two good tight ends, but but this feels
completely different. And whether it's old dog new tricks or
whether it's Lebron James what he he, everybody ultimately resorts
to their default. You can try and say I'm a
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different man, I'm a new man, I'm gonna try to
try things or whatever. But at some point, especially during
times of crises when you don't know what's coming next,
or when you know, like, what are you gonna do?
I mean, this is what happened to Brett Farve. The
The issue with Brett Farve wasn't ever arm strength, never,
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it was Brett Farve didn't like to read defenses. Brett
Farve liked his place. I had a friend who was
on the New York Jets coaching staff back when Farther's
on the Jets, and they would come in with the
play sheet, you know, on the Friday night, they'd sit
down with Brett and like, man, we really like this,
we really like that. We werely like this and Farvard go, no, no, no,
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give me two wide receivers, give me a guy in motion,
give me one back deep Why because that's all Brett
far ever knew from his time in Green Bay. It's
all you ever knew. And and though Brady's offense has
changed um and varied some the idea that Tom Brady
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can throw the deep ball, so he will throw the
deep ball because he threw a pretty deep ball last year,
that's not who he's been. And asking a guy at
forty three years old to be something he hadn't been
in twelve years, you're asking him to reset his default.
Everybody has every video game, every computer, every phone. We
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all have default settings. People have default settings, and and
and can we stop with the Mike Evans is Randy
Moss thing? Right? Are we really? Is that what we're
really gonna do here? He's a nice player. They have
two good wide receivers. Now they put up crazy numbers
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because he had Jamis Winston who had to throw it
a ton because he either dave it away a bunch
or was going to give it away a bunch, so
they kept throwing, kept scoring. It's a completely different league
when you're playing for championships. When you're the hunter, hunt
deed is supposed to the hunter, and when you're playing
with Brady, and and look, Brady's whole thing is precision,
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everyone knowing exactly what they're doing, where they're doing. Like,
there's a reason it's worked in New England this long.
And it's not just Tom freaking Brady. There's a lot
to it. So I'm not sitting here predicting gloom and
doom and telling you Tom Brady is gonna stink. I'm
saying the idea, just this idea that when you put
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Tom Brady with those with those skill position players, he
didn't have a skill position players, so he like, Look,
they still won twelve games, and one of the reasons
is he still found a way to find Edelman. They
were still marvelously coached. They still at least last year,
had Dante Scarneckia working with the offensive line. All of
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those things change. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app Cam Newton was released and you see all
these guys, you got a bunch of them, especially on ESPN,
saying Cam Newton is better than this guy. Cam Newton
(11:29):
is better than that guy. Cam Newton should be with
with the Chargers, the Bears. How could the Bears and
the Chargers pass up on Cam Newton, m VP of
the league five years ago? How could they do that?
And today on Instagram, Cam Newton was working out in
(11:52):
his personal gym, flexing, looking big, saying things like this
what we do in sorry, saying they quit on me.
They gave up on me, all right, they being the
Carolina Panthers. Okay, but in the real world it's a
(12:13):
regime change. This is what happened. I've worked at three
different places that all of them are different, and all
of them are the same. The guy who brought you in,
the guy who believed in you, that's the guy you
better make happy. That's the guy you tie your ship too.
And if he gets fired, boy you are You're a
ship wandering at sea, ship wandering and see. But if
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he goes to another place, you follow him. You follow him.
That's what generally what happens. I mean, if you want
inside the Beltway stuff at at at Fox Sports. Like look,
when Colin Cowherd came to Fox Sports, he followed a
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guy who had started his show is TV show at ESPN.
And then of course, you know one of the lead
producers is now one of our executives here at Fox
Sports Radio. Guys you had worked with before, Guys that
you respect, Guys you don't know the business. Know, you
embrace you in your style, You embrace them in their style.
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Right do you do you want a little bit more
money to change? Of course, of course, but there has
to be some inherent trust because if you go and
work for people you've never worked before. I've done that.
Then all of a sudden you sit down and you're
just you, and they're like, yeah, I don't really love you,
but you hired me, didn't you know? Like no, I
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mean we just thought we mentioned a meeting and we
everybody liked you, and I thought you're good and all right,
you gotta have knowledge of it. Ron Rivera took the
Washington Redskins job. He got as close to autonomous power
as you can get with the Redskins. He told us
to such at the Super Bowl. He's told everybody that
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Dan that Dan Gilbert and I did the Dan Snyder.
Dan Snyder, the owner of the Redskins, said I'm gonna
step away. I'm gonna trust you. Remember this is the
Dan Snyder whose kid went to high school with Dwyne Haskins,
and that reportedly is why they drafted Dayne Haskins last year.
So you're gonna bring Scott Turner and that's the son
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of Norv Turner. Norv Turner worked with the Panthers. Scott
Turner worked with the Panthers. You're being Scott over from
Carolina as well as several other members of your front office,
and you're coaching staff to transplant to the Redskins. Why
because you've worked together. They know you, you know them,
and you believe that if you do it your way,
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it works. And for Ron Rivera, the proof is in
the pudding. He went to the Super Bowl a couple
of years ago with the number one defense and the
number one running game and a quarterback that won the
m v P. Sure they didn't play against the the
one team I think above five records, all right, but
his ability or that team's ability to win with Cam Newton,
who was a low percentage passer and survive when Cam
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Newton was often injured in a smaller market like Carolina,
and do so and do so well. You know, at times,
turnover with players remarkable. And you're play against the Falcons
who went to Super Bowl, the Saints who have been
a dominant team last couple of years. Like all this stuff,
Ron Rivera brought guys over that he knew, that he respected,
(15:33):
that he trusted in his coaching staff, in his front office,
and he had the opportunity to bring one quarterback over.
That quarterback was not Cam Newton, it was Kyle Allen.
Take a listen to what Ron Rivera says about bringing
over Kyle Allen's what we do. You understand our system.
You know, Scotty turns our offensive coordinator. You know we're
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using them as a system that we had basically had
him placed for nine seasons. And Kyles, the young quarterback
he had some success, is good in the locker room.
He understands what I'm looking for. You understand what Scotty's
looking for. So hopefully we can take that and use
it to our advantage with our with our new team.
You got all of these guys on TV and radio
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saying how did the Chargers. Who, by the way, why
the Chargers have Tyrod Taylor instead of Cam Newton? Huh?
Tyrod Taylor was a starting quarterback with Buffalo Bills. They
went to the playoffs. Who was his play caller? Anthony Lynn?
Who's his head coach? Now? Anthony Lynn? They worked together.
They trust each other. This is not that hard, I
swear to God. Why did the Bears go out and
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get Nick Foles? How do you go out and get
Nick Foles? Well, because Nick Foles played for Matt Nagy,
He played for John D. Philippo, He played for all
of their offensive coaching staff. He played for before either
in Philadelphia or Kansas City, and Naggi played for in both.
They worked together, he played for. They understand how each
other works and they respect each other. Ron Rivera has
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the chance to bring over a quarterback and you can say, well, Cam,
it was making nineteen million, and Cam Newton right now
is making zero. When you get cut, you don't make
a pet You got nothing, there's no contract details, nothing, zero.
So the idea, I don't know what Cam Newton, he
probably wants a multi year deal whatever. But if you
want to say that, well, Kyle Allen makes thousand dollars.
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Camy was making a nineteen right now, Calviny, he could
have waited it out. He knew nobody was trading for
Cam Newton. He didn't. He trade a fifth round pick
for Kyle Allen. Why he's good in the locker room,
knows what he's doing, knows what we expect. Had some
success in the league, same offense for nine years, the
same offense that Cam Newton ran. Cam Dowon had success.
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He went to his Super Bowl, he was heavy. B
Ron Rivera is telling you can't play anymore. He doesn't
want him. That's all you need to know. You don't
need to accost the Chargers. You don't need to accost
the Bears. Oh, the league, the league, that's not the league.
It's Ron Rivera, who everybody respects. Right When Ron Rivera
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took the job of the Redskin's like, man, I really
like Ron Rivera. Why don't he take the Redskins job?
That's because you like and respect Ron Rivera and you
don't feel the same about the owner. Right. So if
a guy that everybody respects, everybody is a former player,
a really good coach, you know a guy who does
it the right way and builds a culture and toughness
and breaks over and the guy he leaves behind, he's like, Yo,
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where's the it's the boy. Yeah you could come. No,
no, no no, we're full, We're full full here. Sorry, we'll
take Kyle, We'll take your backup. We'll take a rookie,
a guy who got beat out twice in college. Twice
in college. That's all you need to know. Does it
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mean that Cam Newton stinks? No? Does it mean that
he's not better? Like if you go throw with with
an empty stadium to just wide receivers Like, No, it does.
Doesn't mean that Cam Newton is a bad football player.
It just means there's something there in terms of his leadership,
his ability to stay healthy. Right, part of ability is availability.
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Football players say it all the time. Dudes hurt all
the time. Cam's about Cam, Cam's not about the team.
And and and here's a lesson. No GM has ever
opened up their Instagram and said, oh, Cam Newton's lifting weights. Oh,
he's motivated to be great, proved people wrong. He's the
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only guy in the NFL that's lifting weights and motivated
to prove people wrong. I didn't think we wanted Cam Newton. Frankly,
I'm surprised that not only did the Redskins, but the Bills,
Guy Bills, that coaching staff came from Carolina and Carolina
all of them passed on Cam Newton. I'm a little
surprised there. But now that I see him working out
(19:47):
on my Instagram, Hey, somebody get Cam Newton's agent on
the phone. Let's give him mull to your deal. He
wants to be great. Raiders needed a quarterback. Did they
sign Cam Newton? Nope? Did they wait? Boop Marcus Mariota.
It's all you need to know. I'm guessing from the
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time that John Gruden sat down with Cam Newton and
he said, tell me a play call you had an Auburn.
He said six. That was a play called they had
at aubur Six. I mean six, what was the formation?
We just called it six? Go back and look there's
tape of this like that. This is the every interview is.
You're making an impression for your future, for your future employment.
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Instagram may love Cam Newton's hat, suits, glasses, he looks
clean man scarves. I don't know what's going on the
scarf thing. It's just weird. But whatever you can get
away with it. Instagram may love it. TV Pundance may
love it. They may tell you that the Chargers don't
know what they're doing, the Bears don't know what they're doing.
But if the Redskins don't want him, why should anybody else? There?
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There are pair parallel parallel worlds. We live on the
same planet in a different universe. The people who are
in this Tiger King big Cat thing, I swear to
God that is that is a different universe in the
world I live in. And these people that say Cam
Newton is still an elite quarterback when he's only really
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had one great year, one good year, and a bunch
of uh in uh inaccurate years, Like look at his career.
It's nine years and he's consistently inconsistent. And when you're
consistently inconsistent, you're inconsistent. And when your longtime head coach
brings over everybody and leaves you behind and you don't
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have a job, there's no don't give me the salary
cap crap tells you all you need to know. Those
Cam Newton fandom I g lovers that think, well, now
you signed Cam Newton. That is a parallel universe. To
the one in the real NFL and the real NFL.
You gotta go that somebody like you, trust you, knows you.
And he had that chance to stay, to go to Buffalo,
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to go to the Redskins, and everybody passed, you know.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter Noon Pacific.
Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. His brother Nick just
playing the Super Bowl. He told us back when Nick was,
you know, two years ago, three years ago. He's in college.
He's like, mom, Nick's gonna be better than me. Nick's
(22:27):
better than me. But he's pretty damn good in his
own right. He's Joey Bosa of the l A Chargers.
He joins us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Joey, how
are you? Hey? Not bad? How are you doing? Good man?
Where are you? I'm at home in Florida? How is
how is? I mean? You're active guy? You know you're
you're young, you got money. You should be getting ready
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for the offseason, be training. What's this like? What's this
experience like for you? Yeah, it's definitely different. Um. I
tend to spend a lot of my times relaxing inside.
So it's not too big of a change, but you know,
it's obviously we're just trying to be safe and stay
as ready as we can and you know, keep keep
(23:09):
doing what we can until we get locked down here,
which is probably gonna happen here pretty soon. But it's, uh,
just the simple pleasures of going, being able to go
get a bite to eat every once in a while.
That's it's tough not being able to It's definitely a
different field around spring break with the streets being empty
and foot letter Alright, so are you able to go
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in train? Because in southern California you can't go and
you have to go and it's like a speakeasy, right,
You got like not three times to get into place
to go. Train has got to be secret. Are you
guys still able to go train it? Yeah, there's we
have a spot right now. It's it's kind of like that.
It's it's completely shut down and we go by ourselves,
um at a certain time. And I'm sure we're going
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to get, like I said, locked down pretty soon and
then they're going to have more cops patrolling. Right now,
we're still free to go about as we want. The
parks are getting closed down, the beaches are getting closed down,
so we try to get up early enough to go
get a running at the parks. But the last few
days we've been getting kicked off by some of the
park rangers. So we're just trying to make it work.
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But obviously safety comes first. Have you broken out there?
Don't you know? Who? Have you broken out there? Do
you know who I am? Thank yet, I don't do
that very well. I'll let my let my trainer do
that for me. But no, they're they're pretty understanding. Obviously
they don't I really want to be going around kicking
kids off fields. It's not what they're really looking forward
(24:37):
to do. But they usually cooperate pretty well with us.
There's not much they can do. Have you watched Tiger
King yet? No, that's That's what I've been hearing about.
So I have I'm on I'm on episode five. I'm
not I'm not gonna give you any way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(24:59):
I don't really. I've heard from a couple of people.
I might check it out this weekend. Yeah, you're pretty
much gonna go Oh my god, every one of these
people there's I feel so much better about myself, any
any issue that actually exist. Yes, yes, it's like this,
there's no way this is real. And then like, actually
this is real, this actually really existed, really really happy. Yeah,
(25:22):
it's hard to surprise me anymore in today's today's world.
You know, you this this one I would love to
I'm going to guess you might be more than mildly surprised,
even even shocked at the varying story. It's not just
one story, it's a bunch of different Like, oh, I
can't I mean, I can't heard. I was listening to
podcasts and they were mentioning a little bit that he
(25:45):
has a hundred and fifty cats or whatever. And one
lady got her arm bit off and came back to
work the next week. So I think I think that's
enough to give me in Yes, yes, one of his
one of his workers had her arm bit off and
she spent she was only she only missed work for
five days. And we all think we're tough. We're like, yeah,
(26:07):
you probably a lot cut off his finger, Like, she
got her arm bit off and she gave back, and
you know what, honestly, on the scale of one to crazy,
that's closer to one with some of the other parts
of the story. I swear to you well good Joey
Bosa joining us in the Doug Otlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, what's your feeling over the first over
(26:30):
phil Philip Rivers leading mutual parting ways going to the Colts.
He's the only quarterback that you've ever known during your
NFL career. How does that sit with you? Yeah, it's
gonna be different not having him in the in the
locker room after the last four years or it's been
can't believe it's Hardy's been four years. But I mean,
I'm happy for him. We got a great deal. He's
(26:52):
gonna go into a place, so I'm sure he'll fit in. Well. Uh, definitely,
no hard feelings on either side, I don't think. And
I'm excited to see who we're going to get. I
don't know if she's gonna be Philip Rivers caliber in
the first year or what, but I'm excited to see.
I really have zero idea who it's going to be,
(27:13):
so there's a lot of uncertainty with that, but I'm sure.
I'm sure they have people in mind. Did you did
you did you think that you were getting Tom Brady
oh yeah, for a little bit. I think I was
hearing from some people that there was a very good
chance of that, and I mean I would I wouldn't
complain about getting Tom Brady, that's for sure. You know,
(27:35):
here's my here's my defense of Tom Talasco, who drafted you.
It's like he drafts you, he drafts Melvin Ingram, he
drafts Derwin James, Um you find you know, Austin Ekeler obviously,
Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, all these guys. So there's this,
there's this kind of like, well, you know, you gotta
go and sign this guy or sign that guy. Why
(27:55):
wouldn't she trust a guy who's drafted so well to
draft the next quarterback if he proven the ability to
see talent in the NFL draft, right right? Yeah, I
think he's definitely done a good job, especially in the
last few drafts or all the ones you've named there,
Hunter Henry another one to But yeah, I mean I
(28:16):
haven't really watched much of the quarterbacks so other than
two or Joe, So I mean I would I would
love to have Joe Burrow on my team, that's for sure.
But I haven't watched much of I think Herbert from
from Oregon or whatever. I haven't watched much of them, so, uh,
I don't know. I'm excited to see I No, I
(28:37):
don't know how I feel about having a rookie QB
after having having a o G like filled back there
for so long. I think people are gonna be like, man,
we really had a good when we had sill over here.
But hopefully we draft somebody or pick somebody up and
they come in because we definitely have the pieces to
surround him joining us in the doug Otlip Show on
Fox Sports, right, the one thing he does do if
(28:59):
you have hi Rod and a rookie quarterback is freeze
up some money. And somebody's coming up on their fifth year.
Huh huh who's that? I don't I don't know. Oh
uh some cat named Bosa. Uh where are you guys
with that? I know where there's There hasn't been much talk.
I think most of it's been clouded by by the
(29:22):
pandemic and everything that's been going on. I haven't really
been talking to to to anybody there. Tom texts me
the other day, just checking in, and uh, you'll be
the last to know though. Once I find out I
appreciate that. Thank you, thank you for being honest with me. Okay,
let let's just let just give me a percentage chance
(29:45):
that that that you're a a charger through your next
deal and you're if you're, if you, if I was
the guess your heart of hearts, right, I can't give
you a number, but i'd say there's a very good chance.
I can't. I don't see a trade happening, and I
don't really want to be anywhere else. So I like
where I live, I like my teammates, and I'd love
(30:06):
to keep playing there for us in my career. But
you never know, anything can happen, but I'd say there's
a very good chance. Okay. So look, your your dad's
kind of a legend, played obviously in his own right,
still in incredible shape. Is he preparing his own kind
of private workouts for when you guys are locked down?
He is he gonna come over and go old school
(30:27):
push ups, old male workout, you know, nick, nick hop
onto Joey's back and and Joey, you gotta run a mile?
Are there are there Dad workouts that he we can't
hang with that still? So we let him go be
a Madman and run for ten hours on the beach
or wherever it is. And uh, yeah, we can't hang
(30:50):
We're we're we're definitely more of a short burst kind
of athletes. Then my dad can run for days. It's unbelievable.
Joey Bosa joining us in the Doug Gotlin Show on
Fox Sport Trading. Okay, so you haven't watched Tiger King.
What have you been watching? I actually just finished Return
(31:10):
of the King Extended, just rewatched all the Lord of
the Rings movies extended. There was a four and a
half hour movie. So it's been pieced together over over
the last couple of weeks, and so we've got a
good twelve hours of of Lord of the Rings and
over the past a couple of weeks, and it's as
great as I ever. I haven't seen him in a while,
so it was a good little recap. You're you're a
(31:32):
big Lord of the Rings guy. You're a big Elijah
Wood guy. Yeah. I mean he's probably my least favorite character,
but no, it's they're just epic. Especially after how disappointing
Star Wars was, It's good to see good direction and
good acting in a in a fantasy movie. Fantasy trilogy.
You mean the most recent Star Wars, right, So if
(31:53):
you're terrible, okay, So if your your go to Star
Wars is which one Empire play or New Hope? I
mean both of them. It's hard to choose one Empire
depends whether you do you want to be upset at
the end or do you want to feel good? I
don't know. Empire has one of the great lines in
the history of filmmaking, right, I love you, I know, Right,
(32:14):
that's the incredible line. That's just plus plus good doesn't
always win. That's the that's the great part about Empire,
right that. I mean, I can't even imagine being in
that theater when that first first dropped. It's something I'm
definitely jealous, just jealous of people back in the eighties.
There are some great movies back then. Yeah, well, Tiger
(32:37):
King is next. I don't think it. I don't think
is a great movie. But it is. It is that
I cannot believe. Yes, And it's in It's in It's
in Florida, right, half it's in Florida. Half it's in Oklahoma.
There's a little bit in Ohio. In Ohio, there's some
in Ohio, but mostly complete. Yes, yes, it's it's Florida.
It's it's Florida, which is like, oh that makes sense. Yes, Florida, Lahoma, Yeah, yeah,
(33:01):
more Panhandle, you know, Tampa, Florida. More. It's not it's
not Fort Lauderdale, it's not the not the east side.
Things change when you go up north a little bit. Joey,
great to catch up. Get back to that film watching,
and we want you to you gotta you gotta post
some of those dad workout videos when he starts running
on the beach with no shirt on. Thanks Joey. Likewise,
(33:23):
Joey Bosa, who said we will be the last to
know when he agrees to a contract extension. See there
you go.
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