It's getting ugly for Major League Baseball

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Fox Sports MLB Insider will join us at the top
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so we'll get get his thoughts on on the hockey.
But let's start with Major League Baseball because the the
the I'm gonna go with breaking story of the day,
I'm gonna go with breaking story of the day is
it's not that baseball. Baseball's players and um excuse me,

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baseball players and there uh owners are at it an
impast that's different from any other time when they are
at an impast. But it's the it's what the players
are doing which is really interesting and I think, in
many ways disruptive. So here's what happened. And look, I

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actually I don't know if there's anybody who is, was,
or can be determined to be better in the sport
than Max Scherzer. Right, Like, Max Scherzer has won a
cy young in both leagues. Max Scherzer bet on himself.
Remember he's offered a contract to stay with the Tigers.
Instead he turned it down, had a great year inside

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a huge deal with Washington Nationals, and then of course
this year the Washington Nationals finally broke through and won
a World Series. So in no way, in no way
is this to impugne the credibility of Max Scherzer. I
think Serzer is awesome, but what he's doing, well, like, look,
he's basically doing his agents work and oh yeah, by

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the way, he's doing something that you just can't do
at this point in time. Real unemployment, okay, real unemployment
is like one in four Americans, American adults not working.
To think about that for a second, one in four

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Americans not working. So look, I understand when you're set
to make a crazy amount of money and somebody says, hey,
we need you to take a little bit less, and
you're like, all right, I don't want to do it,
but I'll do it, And then you get really close
to come back and they're like, you know what, we
need to have some more money back. This is what

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Max Scherzer tweeted out yesterday after discussing the latest developments
with the rest of the players. There's no reason to
engage with MLB in any further compensation reductions. We have
previously negotiated a pay cut in the in the version
of proraated salaries, and there's no justification to accept a
second pay cut based upon the current information the union
has received. I'm glad to hear other players voicing the

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same viewpoint and believe MLB's economic strategy would completely change
if all documentation were to be made public information now now,
some of this is doing the devil's work right because
Scott Boris. There's an email to Scott that Scott Boars says,
don't bail out MLB owners. Scott Booris wants his clients

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to be united. In his email, he said, remember games
cannot be played without you play hears should not agree
to further pay cuts to bail out the owners. Let
the owners show some of their record revenues and profits
from past several years and pay you the probitate of
salaries you agreed to accept, and let them borrow against
the assets they created from the use of these profits

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players generated. Look, this is a very very normal employee argument, right,
a normal employee argument. Hey, we had a record year
last year, and I didn't get any sort of record bonus.
I didn't get any sort of Hey, you made a
bunch of money. I didn't get anything off the top.

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So when things go bad, why do I have to
take an even bigger hair haircut? That's not right. Well,
there's a couple of things that go with it. First,
life's not fair, right, wake up every morning with the
thought in your mind. Life is not fair. No one
owes me anything. Okay, let's go to work. The second

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thing is owners own all. You know. I don't I
this is a NBA players make the mistake. And part
of this is how Adam Silver has worded it in
in partnership, it's not a partnership. It's not a partnership.
You when you own a franchise and you own the

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rights to the players. You may not like the word owner,
and you may think it signifies something else. It doesn't.
You're the owner. It's it's on you if it goes under.
That's those are every dollar you loses, your money yours
you had to lay out. I mean, if you think
about it, and look, there's a mix in terms of
Major League Baseball and NBA, there are a couple of
mom and pops left right, the Mets are still a

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mom and pop. The Lakers are a mom and pop.
But most of these people made a billion dollars elsewhere
and this is something that they just wanted to do. Yeah,
they want to make some money with it. They like that.
They just love the sport and they love the idea
of ideas of sports, and they have they But you
make all that money your entire professional life, and you

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spend it. Why do I have to lose money on it?
Why do I have to take some sort of massive haircut.
If you didn't like the deal, if you weren't getting
cut in on the action when they were going, when
you know everything was going up, well, that's on you.
That's part of the that's part of the deal that
the Players Association negotiate, and it's a bad one and

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no one would argue it. But by the way, welcome
to the American economy. Welcome to the American economy. And
you can sit here and go you know, um, I'm
a capitalist. No, you're you're not okay. In pure capitalism,
pure capitalism, not what we have here. Pure capitalism, you

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you probably wouldn't have a union, right and you also
if you weren't making money, people would cut babe. This
is we don't live in a purely capitalistic society. We don't.
The American economy works this way though. If you own
a franchise, it's no different from the franchise e, you

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know with wherever you eat, Like you go to any
sort of fast food or fast casual place, that franchise
e they a loud, laid down a bunch of money.
And you may think, well, hold on, I'm a manager
and we've been making record setting profits, Like all right,
did you negotiating that that in your deal? You didn't? Sorry,

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you know, our target was to make a hundred thousand
dollars in the month of January, and we made a
hundred fifty and I didn't see a penny of it,
Well that's on you. If you didn't put the markers
in your contract, that's on you. Well we just won't play.
Then guess what somebody will. And what you also have
to keep in mind is all of the losses that

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you will sustain. Look, the owners will sustain massive losses
and you might lose a couple of them. There might
be a couple of like you can't do it, you
can't do anymore. But they pale in comparison to the
players losses because this is their primary and many only
source of income. It is that unfair. Of course it's unfair,

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you know, of course you'd like the owners to go like, look,
let's just navigate the losses and you know, see how
bad it is when it as it goes. But this
hey opened the books. They're not opening the books. There
isn't a business on earth that would open the books
to you know, to their workers. Nobody's doing that. That's
just stupid. That that's that is real, as is obvious

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pr and bad pr advice from Scott Borris. Walk into
your boss's office and say, listen, boss, like you know,
as I know you want everybody take a tempercent haircut.
But I'd really like to see the numbers for everybody
this month. Maybe like, excuse me, excuse me, why don't
you take the rest of the month off, and then

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maybe next month off as well, and then the month
after that and after that after that after that, Like
this doesn't the idea. I look, make sure you're a
great picture, great right, And if you want to believe
you're worth every penny, that's cool. That's cool because there
are a few people on earth who have been able
to do what you can do with the baseball. But

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I mean, look, if you don't come back, it's not
gonna change. It's actually you say, hey, I'm not playing. Okay,
there's a bunch of minor leaguers that aren't gonna make
any money at all this year, none, zero, zero income.
I think those guys who want to grab grab the
old horse hide and throw it around, what do you

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think they're They're not as good as you, But you
know what they'll do. They'll put on the cap, they'll
run out there, they'll do their best and people will watch.
Do you know why, because there's nothing else on and
you won't get your year of service. You won't get
your money. You you know, I don't. I don't really
understand the argument. Again, I'm not saying it's fair. I'm

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not saying it's right. I will tell you that negotiating
in public and trying to get the owners to open
their books is just dumb. Why do I have to
open my books for the previous couple of years that
has nothing to do with the pandemic, because the pandemic
affects so many more people. And again, I'm not even

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necessarily being critical of Scott Boris because his soul job
is to get his players paid as much as humanly possible.
That's it. That's his only job is to watch out
for their best interest. But in terms of being a
guardian of the sport of the business, you know, I'm

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just I'm not defending the owners. I'm just being real
with you, Like you can have all these fake conversations
you want about yes, stick it to the owners and yeah,
like okay, have fun with that, you know. I mean, look,
this is this is what we do. We we get
this public sentiment riled up, and yeah, college sports just

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moneymaking and they all they do is use players, Like
all right, how many basketball players can you name? That
play college basketball last year, you can't, you know why,
because you actually need that to make a name for yourself. Sorry,
this way it goes, do you get a college education
to get that college experience, be around people your age again?
Owners own, And it doesn't mean that they're they have

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the right to be abusive and to get something for nothing.
But the idea that the situation the players are running
into like oh, we'll just play more games, Like no, dude,
you don't get it. There's an amount of revenue that
we're never going to be able to attain because we
don't have fans in the stands. Sure we can play

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some more games. That will help some and they will
help with these contracts for the rs n s and
maybe we can generate some more money, but there's also
more cost with it, right, Like, are your calculation is
all off? Well, it's it's a pro raded salary. Yeah,
pro rade salary based upon a hunter games is more money.
Instead of taking big a bigger haircut, you're actually trying

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to take less of a haircut. Like, no, that's not
where we are. You're not getting the message of how
bad this is. Here's the message. One in four Americans
one in four Americans are not working. They don't have jobs,
they don't have money to spend, and there's a good

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chance that at some point they won't have the money
to spend on either the cable fees or whatever. However
you're broadcasting game. As of now, most most people I
know there's cord. Most over ninety million people still have
the full set of cable in their in their house.
Your games just right, you still have that that chance,
But you're dealing with a completely unrealistic point of view.

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If you put in any part of your conversation, you know,
if they just open up their books to previous years,
they're not They're not. Do you know why? Because life's
not fair and nobody owes you anything. All Right, we
got a lot to get to. On today's Show's Doug
Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. This year is

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gonna be their year, but not for the reason you think.
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the stuff come out of Cleveland. Right. This is Baker
Mayfield in the NFL Network talking about his new approach
to the two thousand twenty season. Approach to this year,
everybody that has been interviewed in our team is kind
of at the nail ahead over and over about you know,
it's just time to work. It's time to do our
thing instead of talking about it. So this is the
first media thing I've done just because there's no need

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to be talking about it. It's just time to go
do it. And right now it's you know, kind of
moving in silence, which is fun with me. That's how
I used to do it before getting on a bigger stage.
So I'm happy to get back to those roots, like
I said earlier, get back to the fundamentals to where
I can accomplish the goals. When the season comes around.
It does it look it, It does feel like. It
does feel like they are really really really trying, really

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trying to um to be the team that you know
was what's the Theodore Roosevelt walk quietly carry a big stick,
which is great and probably what they always should have done.
You know, we warned you of it last year. And
this is something that that Tampa is going to have
to deal with, is is a completely different level of

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intensity preparation. When you come in as the hunt, did
not the hunter, right when you come in as a
hunt did not the hunter. So I I think of
this and I think it's great. But I also think
that to anyone who says, well, this is a big
year for him, yeah, well, first of all, any year

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in the NFL is a really big year. But the
way it works in sport, in all sports, but the
way it works, especially in UM in sports is the
coach is usually the first to go, and then the
gentle manager president. Sometimes they survive all of it, sometimes

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they do not, and then the players go. The coach
always goes first because there is the the sense, even
though I don't actually believe it's accurate, that it's easier
to find another coach than it is to find another
great player, I don't believe that's true, but I do
believe that um that this is the progression. Coach goes first,

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and if a general manager goes second, boy, brother, you
better if you're a player, you better bring it. Nobody
is safe. And and this is not just about the
Cleveland Browns look at any different in my my who
I work for. You know, if Don Martin, Scott Shapiro
or you know, Julie Talbot, they decide, hey, we're gonna

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go elsewhere, or somebody new comes in, right, and they
get rid of one and then they get rid of
the next. We're still not doing all that well anybody,
No one is safe. No one is safe. Then you
factor in all the embarrassing things that took place last year,

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right from the coaching mistakes to the playing mistakes, to
the behavioral mistakes, you know, to the outlandish comments, to
even the little things of wearing the watch, like again,
that may not bother you, It doesn't. You don't matter.
What matters is the boss. And if the boss sitting
there going like, wait, so you're not winning and you're

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causing a distraction? What am I? What am I missing here?
And you cost a lot of money? All of that
is worth it if you're winning. None of it is
worth it if you're not. And and I think the
biggest question, the biggest question I have for Baker Mayfield

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is this. You know, Baker can say this is who
I always used to be. I would you know, not
make comments I would just go play or whatever, like,
that's not really who Baker has always been. Baker has
always been brash. He has always been the guy who's unafraid.
That's why he had the in factor. Remember John Dorsey

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who drifted him, said he's Brett Farve. That's what they meant,
don't care. And so the question is are you stripping
away the core of who he is? You know, he's
stripping away. It's it's you know, it's like it's like, um,
if you watch a movie Fast Times, Ridgemont High, first

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time I ever saw a girl naked, take away all
the scenes of nudity and the curse words and the innuendo,
and it's not a very good movie. Right, I'm not
sure it's a great movie anyway, but it's a really
bad movie. Then Sit Fernandez just like to Sit Fernanda.
You guys, remember Si Fernana is the picture for the Mets.
When Sid Fernanda has lost all that weight, he wasn't
any good, wasn't any good? Some some guys are better

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when they're heavy. Some shows are only good when you concurse.
And some players are only good when they're there themselves
and they're brash, and they're outlandish and they don't care.
The second you start to care is the second you
start to change who you are. And you change who
you are, well, that can be a really dicey proposition
because then you're kind of lost. What is Baker Mayfield?

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If there isn't the supreme self confidence the level which
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Sports Radio. Brandweeden joins us from our starting quarterback in
the Nation Football League. We do have tendency to talk
Browns a lot with you. But Baker came out and

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he's like, look, we're gonna get out and get get
away from talk and get back to just playing, which
which I like. I do wonder though if that takes
him away from who he is, right, Like, some guys
are just better when they're the center of attention. Yeah,
that's a good question. I think he's I think he's
somebody's telling some good information in my opinion. I mean,
you don't want to take the swagger off the field,

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but I think there's been time so far in his
you know, young career, where he's tend to maybe talk
a little too much and kind of set some things
he probably regrets. So i'd have to imagine, you know,
and when you're going down and you play, you ball out,
you're in college and you're learning has and trophies and
you're you know, you're doing all those things he's done,
and you can kind of say a little more. But
you know, he hasn't. I mean he's he's played, he's

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played pretty good at times, but um, you know, hasn't
hasn't really gotten to where he probably wants to get. You.
You gotta keep your mouth shutting, Um, go out and
win games kind of what he said. I mean, you
gotta you know, winning, winning takes care of everything. And um, yeah,
you know I said, that's he is. I mean, he's
a he's a very outspoken, um you know, kind of

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kind of cocky, kind of kind of arrogant guy. That's
just who he is. And um, but I think at
the same time, you know, you gotta play well, you
gotta back it up. And I think he's, uh, I
think he's doing the right thing, just kind of keeping
his mouth shutting. See if his play can go speak
for himself. Do they do they have enough? Do you
think Kevin Stavanski wants to run the football? Um? Pretty

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cut and dry guy. Have they have they cured their
offensive line problems? And does does it all work together?
In your opinion? I think the jury is still out.
I think the pieces on paper, I think absolutely. I
thought on paper last year they had a chance to
make some noise. Um, I think they've done some some
you know, They've They've got a couple of young pieces
on the offensive line, so those guys are gonna have

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to you know, kind of learn learning ropes and learning
the rops quick because that division is tough and in
the whole deal. But I think their offensive line players, well,
they've got plenty of weapons, running games strong. Again. On paper,
they've got the making is be pretty pretty good. Um.
But at the end of the day, you gotta go
out and get it done. I mean that's you know,
that's that's the difference. But you know, unfortunately it's tough.

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I think me you actually talked about this last year's
there's only one football to go around, you know, keeping
everybody happy, m keeping the backs happy, that's that's gonna
be a challenging, challenging deal for him, but I think
on paper, they've they've got a chance to be a
pretty pretty good offense. Doug at lip Show on Fox
Sports Radio that that is the voice of Brandon Wheedon,
of course, started a quarterback for the Browns, is the
first round pick the Dallas Cowboys and with the Houston Texans.

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He joins US weekly heat here on on Fox Sports Radio. UM,
I wanted to ask you about about to Chicago Bears.
So Matt Naggie was on with Colin Cowherd yesterday and
he's like, look, we still believe in Mitch Drabinsky. We
know Nick Foles. All of us have coached Nick Foles.

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We think we have a really healthy quarterback competition. Does
that actually work in the NFL? I think it does
in this situation, just because I know Nick Foles pretty
well and I know kind of what he stands for
and and he how he'll approach it. It doesn't always work,
but I think this particular situation, I think it does
because one, yeah, I think he gives Robisky a little

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kick in the ass and tells him, you know, he
needs to get his get his mind right and go
play well or else there's a guy on the bench
that was a Super Bowl MVP, and and U's played
a lot of games in the NFL. You know that
could take over at anytime. So I think it want
to motivate Mitch and too. I think you got to
back up that high quality, high character guy that's played
again a ton of ball one, Super Bowl, the whole thing.

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You know, that's that's a nice little backup plan. And
so you know, I think he's even thinking a step further.
You know, Nick already knows that system. He's been around
that system for years, so uh, to plug him in
will be to be seamless. I think he can come
right in and right away and play if he needed to.
There's not a whole lot of a whole lot of change.
So I think in that situation it works. Does it work?

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Is that the same case with every other situation where
you bring in some some form of a veteran um.
Now maybe not. I mean, but you know, I think
this particular one that was a great move by by Chicago.
I think it's a nice little security blanket. It looks
like Gardner Minshew is gonna get a legit shot. Now
I don't know, if he's surrounded by the enough with
the supporting cast. What are your thoughts on Minshew in Jacksonville,

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if you can hold on to the job. Yeah, he's
he's got some stuff to him. You know, I think
he's he's you know that again, I thought, I only
he's playing in the ball to kind of give you
to give me an exact opinion from what I've seen.
You know, he's he throws the ball. Well, he's got
some moxy. He's good getting down the pockets, been making
throws in the run. He's athletic enough to extend plays

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and do those things. Um, but like you said, you know,
there's not a whole a whole lot of weapons around him.
And I think that's kind of the issue. Um is
a receiver in particular. You know, there's not you know,
he's got you know, a couple of guys who can
go get up you know, you know, run them feel vertically.
But as far as you know, true route runners, there's
just not not a bunch of threats there. So I

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think he's got a chance to be a pretty good player.
I think they obviously like him down there. I think
he's again got a lot of moxie and and you
can tell the guys in locker room mic hm. So
I think he's a chance to be pretty good. I
think it's uh the jury still out though. Were you
pro sky judge or anti sky judge, um Man, whatever

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it takes for him to get it right. In my opinions,
I mean, I think everybody talked about the the p
I thing. I mean that was that the passing afarence
of the last year was was a flop, And I
think that was that was kind of a waste of
time in my opinion. Um But if this, if it's
something that helps him get these calls right and you
can do it quickly and effectively, you know, I'm all

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for it. But you know the games, you know how
we're ship come in college football's way NFL, there's like
it just kills the flow right, like and I understand
the idea of sky jug is judges to get it,
but like, look, you're gonna there is no such thing
as perfect efficient. You're gonna screw something up. You know,
I've said this long time. With baseball, you kind of

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take the human error out of it. You know, there
needs to be it needs to be more cut and dry,
you know, like that play, the infamous play with the
Rams and the and the Saints. You know, a play
like that, a game changing play maybe inside three or
four minutes. Then you can go to sky judge and
try to get a writer or he can buzz down
or whatever. But I don't know. I mean, in the

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first quarter, when it's zero zero and it's your second possession,
it's like, you know, is it really worth it, you know,
to to stop the game and like you said, stop
the flow and kind of screw the the flow of
the game up. I don't really know if that's worth it.
But in crystal situations, that can alter teams, because here's
the deal. If you win eight games in the NFL,
that's a big difference. Or winning nine is a big

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difference compared to winning eight, and even winning tends if
a cash game or two throughout the year, and then
you can look back and like with that, go who
had an opportunity to challenge at the sky just becauld
have taken a look at display. You know, now we're
talking about you know, maybe winning the division or something
like that. But so I know that's an extreme example,
but I think I think in order for them to
do it, there's gotta be some stipulations as far as

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when it can be, when the when it will come
into play. Um and again the magnitude of the actual play.
Matt Matt Lafleur has come out and said, like, look,
we need some more explosive plays in the Packers offense.
I operate under the thought that, hey, last year, like, look,
this is the Flour's first chance to work with Aaron Rodgers,
first time Calm plays with Aaron Rodgers. You know, they

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had to build up some trust, had to build up
some equity. They wanted to build up Aaron Jones in
the run game. They did win thirteen games, matter how
good you think they actually were. I do think there's
a next wave in them many but like, look, the
reason you don't have exposive players, you don't have explosive players.
Where are you on the Packers and their ability to
take that offense to the next level. Again, they weren't

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thirteen games, so you're like, you're looking back, but they're offensively,
they just weren't, in my opinion, what they should be
with arguably the most talented quarterback in the NFL. I
think they've got to you know, that system, um, some
play acts and stuff. I think they need to get
back to its one. What what Aaron is good at,
and that's you know, being a drawback. Let him kind

(28:39):
of run the show, you know, whether we quick games.
I think he's really good in the play action game.
He's got guys that can go get them, you know,
with Adams and these guys, and even the backs out
of backfield plays like that to you know, create those
explosive plays. But I don't know, even when Mike McCarthy
was there, it seemed like a disconnect between Aaron and

(28:59):
him and I just doesn't seem like the flow is
very good with the feign in Rogers. It just seems
a little a little off. I can't put my finger
on it. Um. I don't know if it's a lack
of communication and of you know, maybe what who who
wants to do what? Whether you know Aaron wants to
do one thing and not let's do another. I don't know.
But at the same time, they need to find a

(29:20):
way to make it work because I think they got
a pretty good, pretty good offense. In my opinion, I
think they guys chanced to be pretty good. They want
thirteen games that's hard at doing the NFL. We all know. Um,
but god, it just seems like they're leaving so much
on the table they've got. They've got too much firefower
to to not be as explosive as offensive. You know,
as my opinion, they should be brandon wait and joining
us in the Doug Otlips Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,

(29:43):
it looks like, you know, pro sports starting to open
up state of Texas, even saying you can have fans
in the stands, capacities. So things are are starting to
open up. But but if they're if they don't get
back in until mid June or til July, how much
do you think that affects teams? Um? It does. Again,
I don't think it affects the the veteran player quite

(30:06):
as much as a young player. You know, you can
do the zoom meetings and you can do all those
things and steady your playbook. That's that's all good and danny,
but you gotta be able to be able to get
out there and get those actual physical reps. And they've
already pretty much lost out on all of O t
A s um which is again very valuable for young
players in particular, Um, so it's they're gonna be behind
eight ball and there's there's no doubt about that. I

(30:27):
think that the veteran players probably find the heck, they'll
be fresher than they are already are. Um, but yeah,
it's it's gonna be a challenge. I think it's definitely
gonna be a challenge for these young quarterbacks that are
gonna be asked to come in play right away. Um,
because you know, you can't substitute you know, the live
reps on the field, those are those are extremely valuable.
So yeah, I think it does. I think it does.

(30:49):
They're gonna have to get creative and find ways to
get guys as many reps as possible. Um, but it
looks like we're playing football. That's that's all that matters. Hopefully,
hopefully it stays that way. Um. Same thing that gets
will complicated. But you know, as long as we're playing
football come August and September, Gary, baby happy. I agree
with you as Brandon wheedon former quarterback Browns Cowboys and

(31:11):
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This time we we give our guy, uh Dan Buyers
some poetic license. We play a game. This is game
time on the Doug gott Leaves Show. We got a

(31:57):
good game today, Dan Fire, look to you just sending
what the game is? I explained to the explain to people. Okay,
first of all, the game today is I feel a draft.
Al right, we are going to be drafting what TV networks, channels,
streaming services, however you want to put it. That we

(32:20):
needed the most during quarantine, so the draft. Yes, okay,
we're gonna we're gonna delete this. We're not gonna post
this right, reasons why I don't believe we should post this.
All right, all right, that's fine. Ramos laugh tells me
that he knows, and Ryan Music sitting there going like, yeah,

(32:42):
this might not have been that great unless one of
you guys want to take may al right, I have
to bite the bullet at some point. But okay, hey,
maybe the network you know, or networks could be off
the board. We'll have to see the draft order is
Ryan goes first, then Doug, then myself and then on
and then we snake it back and if we have

(33:02):
enough time, we could probably go four rounds with this.
But let's see how we do. Ryan Music. You are
on the clock with the first overall pick man. A
lot of pressure, a lot of decisions come with making
the number one overall pick here. I gave it a
lot of thought. Um, I am gonna go with h

(33:22):
g TV. Yeah, I just think I couldn't. I couldn't
pass on it not being there later in the draft.
I know Ramos is a big fan. Did you reach
for a need there? Do you have both property brothers
walking up on stage to get their jersey? Wow? H

(33:45):
g TV goes number one. I can't argue with that.
I would have gone with another, you know, sort of
similar network. But h g TV interesting, Well, he's buying
a home. Doug. He also, Yeah, that's that doesn't make
any sense. Maybe sticking of ideas. Again, I'm not saying

(34:07):
it's not a great channel. I'm just what what are
we like? Really? Alright, Doug your second up? Well, the
good thing is you get your own pick, Doug, So
go ahead. I know I get my own pick, and
I'm gonna make it a better pick than your pick.
So there, Um, during the pandemic, I'm gonna go Netflix.

(34:30):
Good Netflix. Netflix. By the way, Tiger King seems like
three years ago, doesn't it, Man that Tiger King era. Yes,
but there's also look last Dances I think on Netflix
now are coming to Netflix. Um, yeah, I mean I do.
I don't think it's And by the way, I think
those Property brother shows are available on Netflix as well.

(34:51):
So I'm gonna go to Netflix. Alright, then I am up.
You know what, give me Give me the the network
that aired vert all NASCAR racing and then live NASCAR racing.
Give me the f o X because also on my
Sunday shows, I would have the Fox Greatest Games. And

(35:12):
I will say this, they did a great job. And
not only did they just not pick only games from
the last three years you had you know, Patriots Packers
super Bowl thirty one was a game that aired. They
went back a little bit in the old archives. So
give me Fox at number three. Ramos. You know, sometimes

(35:33):
people say, hey, do you take the best player or
do you take what you need? What you need? I'm
gonna take what I need. At number four, that's baby
TV TV. I gotta get work done every day. They're
doug and uh, someone's got to watch Jonah and it's
gotta be baby TV, who takes a lot of time.

(35:53):
He loves he loves the note kids. So there you go,
the no kids. They sing, dance and they play music.
My kids are too young, they're too young. I've never
heard of baby TV. Honestly, Baby TV. Yeah, take a look.
All right, John, you got another pick two, so now
you can go. Well, now I'm going to take what

(36:14):
I like. Just started watching two weeks ago and I
can't get off. And we even have it on in
the studio Bloomberg Television. I watch it for all the
uh the nik I watch it for every every single
possible place that needs to do trading. I'm watching from
like five o'clock on so Bloomberg TV. A take at
number five, alright, that puts me on the clock at

(36:36):
number six. I'm gonna veer from my original major network viewing.
Food Network goes to me at number six. A lot
of guy and different shows. So I'm going Food Network
at number six. Doug, your up at number seven. As
we draft our favorite or most watched networks streaming services

(36:59):
channel during the coronavirus pandemic. I'm really surprised by your
guy's list. Um, Amazon, that's a good pick me Amazon, Amazon,
I mean both, No, but I'm just you know, in
terms of what I've needed during the pandemic, was the question,
it's a it's a volume play. It's a volume play

(37:20):
for me, all right? That that that's a tough blow there,
because I definitely was looking at Amazon. They're so good
pick by you, Doug, the first good pick you finally
had in this room. Um, I am gonna go with Ah.
I will go with Comedy Central because they have the

(37:42):
Office reruns, so every once in a while that's always
a good place. Since I don't get I believe I
think they're on Netflix, So I'll go with Comedy Central
so I can watch the Office and then the background.
The l'st one. Nobody would want this one, but I
really have been enjoying it. Smithsonian is really good. Yeah,
so I'll go Smithsonian, Little Arial, America, America and Color.

(38:05):
That's all right, Doug, back to you. I'll go ESPN.
Of course you get to watch the Last Dance. Yeah,
last Dance um is really the only reason why I
would go in FS one. Otherwise, go last Dance. We
we got caught up on ninety day Fiance before the
ninety days, so we're in the we like that. Gotta

(38:28):
go t LC just for quarantine, I mean quarantine purposes.
I'll go t LC and John Ramos, you get to
make the final pick of today's draft. Well, all the
star Wars are there, so I'm taking Disney Plus. That's
a good one. That's a good one. I probably Yeah,
that's probably better than ESPN. My bad. This is game
time on the duck Gottlieb show. YEA. He did a

(38:50):
good job there, John, I gotta tell you. Usually you're
drafting is terrible. The Baby TV one was was was
not great, but which, by the way, you kind of
doubled up. If you just went Disney Plus you would
have had enough Kid TV. Huh See makes sense there,
doesn't it. It does make a little sense. It does.
It makes a lot more than a little sense. It

(39:10):
makes a ton a ton of sense. NBA players are
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Sports getting close to picking back up. We told you
that if you heard from Dan Buyer and told you
that professional sports getting close to getting underway in the
state of Texas. Speaking of Texas, Pat Beverley, of course,
is a guard with the Houston Rockets. He was on
with Scott van Pell talking about the NBA during the

(39:56):
quarantine and when they'll begin playing again. But I'm away
to be find out some more important details about exactly
what's going on before I put my family's safety at
risk by going to uh the facility. But it's the
cleanest place in l A. Of course, you know what
the facility is, but I don't know if I'm just
ready yet. You know, I'm eager to play ready to play.
I just want things to you know, kind of calm
down a little bit more and kind of go back

(40:17):
to normal. I hold myself still accountable to achieve that
goal because it's still open. I mean, I'm a basketball player.
If I didn't get paid to play basketball, I still
play it in the same passion and everything. So taking
ball the way it was a big challenge, and I'm
eager to get back out there, and we're ready to go. Baby,
we're just waiting on the NBA, Like check ball, NBA.
You know we're waiting on y'all. Yeah. I mean, like, listen,
I love the positivity which we talked about yesterday, right,

(40:41):
I love those notes of positivity like, hey, we're ready
to go, let's go, let's get after it. I love
all of that. I do. UM. I also think that
it's super important, okay, very important that. UM. While these
notes of positivity are important, this hey, I'm just waiting

(41:04):
for some more information, like what what are you do?
We know that there's there's a hierarchy to every team,
every organization, all right, and I think on some level
we should understand that. It's almost like players are that
they don't want to read tea leaves like, I can't

(41:26):
go until you tell me to go. They open to
back up your facility. You just said it's probably the
cleanest place to go. Are we really led to believe
that Pat Beverley, who by the way, I said, he
used to play for the Rockets tey place for the
obviously for the l A Clippers, Like we really led
to believe that Patrick Beverley doesn't have the awareness to

(41:47):
understand that you should be in the gym, you should
be back up facility, you should be back getting after it.
Would would they have it open if they didn't feel
like it was safe. They're they're telling you everything you
need to know, just based upon their actions, not their words.

(42:07):
And if you need some words, then just talk to
your player rep. But if you are the player rep,
then talk to the you know, talk to the GM.
And I mean, these these conversations are not hard to
have well. And by the way, we can't tell you
what June looks like or July looks like when we
are still dealing with may you know, I I went,

(42:29):
I go back to when we were in was in April,
and I was like, look, I think May fifteen, things
will start to open up, and sure enough May fifteen,
things start to open up. But I didn't know what
they would look like. I don't know what would open first,
what the pace would be or to be. You know,
you have the protests in parts of the country to
open up. Now you got the protests with police brutality.
You know, then you got I mean, you got all

(42:50):
these other like we don't know. We can't give you
definites on a world with so many variables. That's not
almost that is in fact impossible. But we can tell
you is like, Hey, they're gonna play. I love the
idea that he wants to play, that he's ready to play,
So go get ready to play. And what is the

(43:11):
discussion really over? Go get ready to play. But it's
almost as if guys who have been in the business
for a decade, like I don't know how the business works.
If you can't read the tea leaves that dudes are
getting back after it and getting in shape and getting
ready to go full bore, I can't really help you.

(43:35):
Look the the NBA and all these professional sports franchises
are dealing with. They don't want that perception that they
don't care about their athletes, that they don't care about safety.
I've been told all the safety concerns I've been alleviated
from the NBA and Major League Baseball. This is either
Pat Beverley's not picking up the phone, he's not telling
the truth, or he's simply not listening to what's being

(43:57):
told to him. Like they're dot in the eyes, crossing
the tees, trying to get everything right at the right time,
so everyone who deserves it gets the right opportunity to
proceed and compete for a championship. In the meantime, what
are you doing? What? You know? It's it's like if

(44:20):
you ever go and see a a psychologist, they'll tell
you like, well, what does it look like? You know what, Pat,
what does it look like for you to get better information? What? What?
What does that actually look like to you? Tell what
that looks like? You know? Like this is it's also
kind of feels one and the same with you know

(44:45):
what Max Scherzer said, like, well, they just opened their books,
Like they're not opening their books. They're not opening there.
Why would they open their books. It's just a silly
exercise that you're trying to have people go through that
they're not going through it's not happening. Nobody's opening their
books for you. Sorry, next, well they would just open
their books. Yeah, okay, great, it's private business. They don't

(45:08):
have to open their books. They're not running for president,
and even guys that run for president apparently don't have
to open their books. So what's next for you? You know,
that's really kind of where we are with things. But this,
you know, like, well I need some more information. What
more information do you possibly get? Like, do you think
the NBA is holding onto info? They're just like anybody else.

(45:29):
They're trying to figure out what what info is accurate
and what is not, what is politically based and what
is not. You know, that's the basics of it. That's
that's the reality to it, This idea that somehow they're
just withholding any sort of information from you because you know,

(45:49):
they want you to run rough shot in the facility
and give up, you know, all of your rights as
an athlete, Like huh No, as things open up more,
they've opened up the facility, you can get in there
and work out right now, in an individual or a
small group workout. Eventually you'll be able to get your
whole team in there. When they do, they'll open the

(46:11):
league for good, and they'll also announce that you're gonna
play in Orlando. And the only question is is it
sixteen or is it twenty teams? That's really the question.
Are you gonna go one through sixteen or you're gonna
go East versus West? Other than that, I don't really
understand what the what the hold up is, what the
misconception is, misperception is doesn't actually exist. And look, I

(46:37):
do have some unique insight for you. I don't believe
they're going one through sixteen. That's not gonna happen for
what I've been told. It's not gonna happen for the
you know, the the simple, the truthfully simple thought is
this can't happen because it takes away all sorts of
relationship to previous championships. And while that may sound fun

(47:00):
and quirky and it may change how they played championships
in the future, the truth is East versus West works
for TV, works for ratings, has worked, probably always works,
and you're gonna go back to that next year. So
why would you change that just for for one tournament
when you run the risk of changing some sort of history,
you know, I mean look, look, look at the biggest

(47:23):
issue with college football is they don't have they don't
have that balance. They just don't. And because they don't
have that balance, we get two teams from the Southeast.
Most times you can say Clemson Alabama is great. You know,
it's two best teams in the sport and whatever you
want to tell me. All that's I love it. It's fine.
It's you know, you you get to see the best

(47:45):
play great. But everyone west of the Mississippi is like, yeah,
I don't know these teams. I'm not really that into it. Sorry,
and I don't need to see it for the third
or fourth time in a row. No, thanks, none, not
not something I desire to do. So I they're not

(48:06):
going to one to sixteen. I don't believe. I believe
they'll keep it East versus West. It will be in Orlando. Uh.
The question is how many other team you know? Damian
Lillard comes out and says, you know, I only want
to play us for the playoff? What great? Right now?
You're not in the playoffs. Of course, of course that's
the case. The only question is do you get an
extra opportunity to be in the playoffs that you didn't
previously have and you hadn't previously earned, and that I

(48:29):
don't actually know the answer to it. I don't know
what they will do. My guess is they will let
more teams in. It's because they need more inventory. That's
just a guest, though that is not in any way
that that's not any way a fact. My guess is
that they don't go one to sixteen, that they go
one to twenty, that they do pool play into into

(48:50):
some sort of playoffs and the playoffs. Eventually, once you
get the sixteen teams, they'll have the seven game playoffs.
And this is their way of getting the most inventory
possible with the least amount of outlay, least amount of
teams they're bringing in. All we gotta we got a
bunch to get to this hour. To a to a
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(49:11):
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Bleach Reports Mike Freeman. According to every coach I've spoken to,
it's a foregone conclusion that he, to a tongue of violoa,

(49:32):
will beat out veteran journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick and start Week
one against the Patriots on September. That that's Mike Freeman
speaking regards to Tua and what the league wide expectations
are for him to do for him in this coming season. Now, look,

(49:52):
I'm not gonna sit here and tell you anything negatively
about Mike Freeman. Sources none, all right, But what I
am going to tell you is those are likely guys
that are, you know, outside, they're outside of the building.
And if you're the Miami Dolphins and you're gonna make

(50:14):
the long play, the long play is as little as
as humanly possible right now for Tua. And you don't
have like, you don't have to do anything great, You
don't have to do anything huge. You don't have to
do some massive, uh some massive play where he has
to play right away and you if he doesn't do

(50:35):
you know, like, no, you don't. You have Ryan Fitzpatrick,
who's fine too, is coming off a major hip surgery
and a major hip injury, and it's not his only injury.
Why would you rush it? What is the point we
don't know what training camp is gonna look like. We

(50:55):
don't know any of this stuff. Honestly, we don't. We
don't know any of it. The only thing we do
know is a pretty good chance we got football, right
that we do know, pretty good chance we got football.
And the Dolphins have said, hey, we think we're gonna
have some people in our stands. But even there, the
Dolphins are being a bit presumptuous in terms of what
what it's all gonna look like. But that's fine. That's

(51:17):
what teams do. They want to win, they want to play,
they feel pretty good about their group, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But I mean this idea like again, I like the
running assumption. I do believe that the number one overall
pick or the number five pick in this case, we'll
get a shot at some point. I don't think the
Dolphins are in any rush. I just don't. I mean,

(51:41):
all depends on that guy. And Fitzpatrick has been a
guy who's been a bench guy who's coming and filled
him for the starter, and the starter who has has
taken the bench for the for the the young guy.
And that's what he's gonna do, right, Like the Dolphins
a real playoff super Bowl team this year. The answer
is no, of course not. You know, they're doing the

(52:04):
rebuild faster, maybe a little bit better than many people thought.
They got the quarterback they want. But he's not in
the perfect condition. You know. The caution is the is
the optimal word again, doesn't mean he won't play his
rookie year. Nobody ever said that. Doesn't mean that's not
going to happen. I don't think it'd be a terrible
idea if you know Fitzpatrick's playing well, and you know,

(52:26):
you see where his hip is, like, I don't think
it's it's not it's not the world's worst idea. But
this is a big butt all right. But like the
idea that when we don't know what the season is
gonna look like, what training camp is gonna look like,
and you have a perfectly good place holder in place, right,

(52:47):
that's yeah, you have the perfect There's nothing wrong with
Ryan Fitzpatrick in that role. What's the rush? What honestly,
what is the rush? There isn't one, And so if
there isn't a rush, don't rush, don't play him, set
him wait. You're absolutely ready, absolutely sure that he has
complete grasp of the offense so they can avoid being

(53:08):
injured again and so that his body is fully healthy.
And I would guess that's their plan. You know. You
you wait thirty years for your next quarterback. You move
mountains in order to make it happen. You rework the
whole team. The last thing you want is a guy
to trot out there who you're not fully sure is healthy,
not fully sure his grasp for the offense, he doesn't

(53:29):
have the reps. And you have a guy who's fine
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We were talking about two uh about five minutes ago.
Mike Freeman's talked a bunch of coaches and he's like, look,
the expectations is from the start week one. I don't
see it. I don't get it. You got Fitzpatrick's fine,
you know he's taken a seat for people before to us.
Coming off a major injury as well as some other

(54:14):
more minor injuries, you're kind of forming a new team.
What's your sense of the Dolphins and their plans? Granted
we're still in May and we haven't we don't have O,
T A S. We don't know when they're all going
to get back together. But what's your plan of the
of the sense that the plan plan on the Dolphins
actually at well, you know, given that as you said,

(54:34):
there's there's no TIS. There has not been a rookie minicamp.
Everything's been mental reps um. Uh. You know, if there's
ever a time that rookies get off to a slower start,
this is the season that it's going to happen. Um.
And you know there but there was also time I theorized, hey,
maybe the Bengals will hang on to Andy Dalton because

(54:55):
you don't want to just throw Joe Burrow in after
not having you know, a passing program or full you know,
a full um squad minicamp or you know, getting someone
in and and starting in on the weight training and
all the different things in the building. And you know,
do I think that the Dolphins, and you know, I
think the Chargers would love Justin Herbert to sign start

(55:17):
week one. I'm sure the Bengals are psyched about Joe
Burrow starting week one, and all these teams other than
maybe the you know, the Packers, in Jordan's love, would
love their first round quarterbacks to show that, hey, we're
ready to go right away. Um. I don't know. It's
hard to say without you know, knowing what training camp
is gonna look like, knowing when it's going to happen,

(55:38):
and then you know, realistically seeing these guys on the field.
And I don't mean just the quarterbacks, you mean their
offensive lines. Teams can have the best laid plans, but
the second you get in and you start to have
um training camps and you say, hey, you know, offensive
line is not chaling the way that that we would
expect it to. And oh, you know what too, as
a lefty and our right tackle, you know what, he's

(56:00):
uggle in a little bit. So we don't want to
just throw do in and and have him running for
his life right off the bat. Let's make sure it's
offensive line where it needs to be. Offensive line is
where it needs to be. It's it's early to proclaim
any of these plans because and and it's hard for me.
I'm stunned anybody out there is proclaiming this is what
a team wants to do, because right now, when I

(56:22):
talked to teams, they go, Hey, what do you think
we're gonna have like training camp? Do you see? Are
we going to start in time? Like? What are you hearing?
I'm like, you're not even talking about their teams. They're saying,
you know, when the hell are we going to actually
get on a field with guy? Yeah, which which is
my which is my sense as well? Let me ask
you that question, when do you think they actually allowed
teams to get together? Well, I, you know, I reported

(56:44):
I the NFL would like to get um coaches back
into the building next week, and what I had heard
was conservatively the end of the week that they had
hoped to get you know, head coaches back into their buildings.
And then at that point a conversation could take place
about whether or not it was possible and feasible to
have to squeeze in something with players before what would

(57:06):
be the break. And you know, that led to me
and J. C. Treader, who was the union president of
Brown's offensive lineman, you know, kind of going at it
on Twitter about the fact that there's this cap in
place on the virtual offseason program and all these things.
But you know, I would say this the fans, they
have to understand that the NFL right now is it

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is this entire offseason has not been like, hey, here's
what we think the third move is going to be.
They are struggling just to get let's just get this
one thing done and then when we get this one
thing done, then we'll move on to the next thing.
And that and that was the last one thing was
let's just get buildings open so we can get any
employees back in the NFL buildings. And then the next
one is, let's see if we can get Gavin Newsome.

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If we get Gavin Newsom to say, you know what,
you want to get coaches in start to talk about
having players in there. Um, if we can get him
to agree to that, and and this sort of the
soft opening of sports programs the first week of June.
We can go to other state governments that are being
you know that that have us in the fourth phase
of their opening and say, hey, look at California, look
at Gavin Newsome, he's starting us offen his stance, and

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this we think we have the protocols in place to
at least get coaches in and then start to think
about other things. I think the league would like and
coaches would like to not have Tom Brady out on
a field somewhere in the middle of Tampa with guys practicing,
or you know, coaches in Baltimore would love it if
Lamar Jackson didn't have to hold his own practices. If

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they see guys doing this, they're sitting there going. Can't
we figure out a way to have guys voluntarily coming
and do that in our building. Maybe we call it
a volunteering mini camp. We figure out what the what
to call it. But why we why do we have
guys out, you know, in parks or on other fields
setting this up on their own when we have the
infrastructure to do this safely with them and with coaches there.

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So what are we doing here? Yeah? I don't know.
It's it's it is fascinating that they can't. It's like,
you know, and they've been able to have guys that
are doing rehab going to the facilities anyway the entire time.
So it's and and here's my my thinking, Charles Charles
Robinson joining us from Yahoo Sports. It would be one
thing if everyone was under quarantine, right and it was

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less safe to come out and go to the facilities
and bring whatever germs potentially COVID into the building. The
problem is that no one's in that bubble anymore right now.
Now people are out and about. And I'm not saying
that we need to forget about social distancing or completely
disregard kind of the slow rollout, but there's a reality
to you're not in the bubble at home. You're actually

(59:39):
probably safer at a facility. And oh yeah, by the way,
you can get checked every day when your facility, and
if you do get sick you can get treated much
more easily then if you're at home. And if you're working,
you're not gonna know if you're running a fever. If
you're working out in the football field, you have no idea.
You just think you're hot and sweaty, right, And I
think people have to understand too that for the NFL

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there's some value too. And again I'll keep using this
phrase sort of soft opening, there's this value too. Hey,
let's let's kind of see in practice some of these
protocols we think we're gonna have. Maybe let's try this
out and we'll tell players like Tom Brady and some
of these other quarterbacks that are having workouts, Hey, if
you want to do this, we're not going to force

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you to come in here, because you know we're we
everything we do we have to have the union sign
off on it anyway. And the last thing we want
to do, you know, given where we stand in health
and safety, is put pressure on players to come in.
So we're gonna say, if you want to have workouts
with wide receivers, come on in. You know, let's figure
out a way for you to come in. And it
gives teams the opportunity to go, Okay, how realistic is

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this to bring guys in, as you said, do the checks,
you know, look at the protocols that they have in
place now and see how those work. And again, if
this happens at the end of June, that's kind of
the time frame I think some teams would like to
see that happen. And then it gives them actual information
to use between the break and actually opening a training camp.

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And guess what if mandatory and everybody's got to come
in and you've got to have all the players and
all the staffers and the medical you know, the trainers
and blah blah blah. You actually have a little bit
of information to think about because you tried to pull
off maybe a smaller sample group late in June, and
it's going to help you when July comes and you've
got to do the full anchilatta and you don't know

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what that's gonna look like. Charles Robinson joining from Yahoo
Sports Doug Gotli Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, yeah,
there's a lot of there's a lot of discussion about
Cam Newton, yet no seeming, no seeming interest in Cam Newton.
What's your sense on what the future holds for the
former m d P. I think he's gonna wait. I
think he's gonna wait, and he's gonna, you know, see

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if there is an opportunity that arises once teams, you know, convene,
because there is no opportunity there for him now, there's
no there's no I think the opportunity he would have
liked to have seen by now is a team that
would say, okay, you know, once, once we can look
at you medically, all right, we're gonna take a look
at you know what what the Panthers. The NFL has

(01:02:07):
already mandated the Panthers exposed to us. And then you know,
we're we're gonna look at you medically and you're gonna
come in. And if we're bringing you in, the implication
is we're giving me the opportunity to compete with with
someone for a starting job. Because you're bringing in Cam
Newton right now. I mean, that's that's honestly the implication.
Unless it's going to be a Jameis Winston. You're making

(01:02:28):
the veteran minimum kind of deal and it's a one
year deal, and the staff is coming out going you
already backup, and and they can do that because they
have Drew Brees. And no one's questioning whether or not
Jamis Winston is gonna fight with Drew Brees. You know.
Um that hasn't presented itself to Cam and so I
think now he's in a phase of all right, well,
I'm gonna keep working out. I'm gonna get myself where

(01:02:49):
I need to be, and then I'm gonna hope that
a team once training camp starts, goes you know what
a front office. You know, someone in the front office
or the coaching staff, because you know, I'm not entirely
happy where a quarterback situation is or the backup we
brought in to compete. Um, you know, we're not happy
with that guy. Something's not right here. We feel like
we got to strengthen this situation or maybe a starter

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falter so someone gets hurt. I'll let Teddy Bridgewater when
they ship Sam Bradford, the Eagle ship Sam Bradford there.
So he's just got to buy this time at this
point because that starting job is not available to him.
And I think right now the only way a starting
job or even a backup job was starting potential becomes
available is by circumstances. This is Baker Mayfield on the

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NFL Network talking about the Browns new attitude. I have
a different approach to this year. Everybody that has been
interviewed in our team is kind of hit the nail
on the head over and over about you know, it's
just time to work. It's time to do our things
that are talking about it. So this is the first
media thing I've done just because there's no need to
be talking about it. It's just time to go do it.
And right now it's you know, kind of moving in silence,

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which is fun of me. That's how I used to
do it before getting on a bigger stage. So I'm
happy to get back to those roots, like I said earlier,
got back to the fundamentals to where I can accomplish
the goals when the season comes around. Does that? Uh?
I guess? I like, like anybody can say it, Let's
see what happens when you actually play football, you know.
And I also think it's a challenge, like the whole
Kevin Stefanski thing, Like I get it, but it wasn't

(01:04:17):
Steffon Digs. He didn't like the system last year. You
mean to tell me those those two big wide receivers
are gonna be thrilled with them running the ball first, second,
and possibly third down, Like, yeah, I don't, I don't know, um,
but I think my biggest question, Charles, is isn't that
getting away from who Baker Mayfield is? Right? Like this
is you know, like that's who he is. Like he

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kind of just roll with it because the the cocky
you know he's he's like like I've got a Tom
Cruise kind of effect to it, right like right right
where he's just the Tom Cruise in every character he's
ever played is the cocky pilot, cocky ninja guy, cocky lawyer, whatever,
Like that's who Baker Mayfield is. Will that take away
some of his strength as a player? Yeah, I you know,

(01:05:01):
I think what's interesting about this is this is what
when you talk to people inside the Browns, Like I've
heard this for two months now, I mean going going
all the way back to the Combine when that regime
change over occurred and they brought in new news, you know,
coaches and the front office was revamped. When I talked
to people there, they're like, well just wait, They're like

(01:05:21):
just wait, they're really excited about Baker and I so
what's why? Why are you so excited? And what I
heard was he feels humbled, like he felt like last
year was he was not himself. He felt like, um,
he made a lot of mistakes, and and that there
was a lot going around on around Baker Mayfield. I
mean not only within the franchise, his personal life, the

(01:05:45):
coaching staff. I mean, there was it was a rough
year from Baker Mayfield. And and from what I was
told when when everybody engaged with with Baker when they
first got in the door, the whole new staff and everything.
Baker's attitude was, I it's I gotta turn the volume down,
like I need to go back to you know what
I do, fund what you know I do fundamentally when

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people questioned me, when you go back in my career
and you look at points where I was really not
the first thing that I focused on was making sure
I was doing what I needed to do as a
football player to make myself the best player I could
possibly be. Not commercials, not talking to the media, not
getting into Twitter beasts with Colin Coward or whoever else.

(01:06:27):
You know, I I went out to be a great,
you know, football player, and they were thrilled. Like the
people I talked to with the Browns are like they
expect him to have a really big year this year,
and they feel like he is as focused and dialed
in as he's been since since he got there, including
his rookie season. So when this came out and he
said this, I was like, Okay, this is everything I've

(01:06:48):
been hearing. This is him verbalizing apparently what he had
already told the coaching staff in the front office, which
is I'm I'm turning the volume down on me getting
involved in all this other stuff that you know, he
felt like did impact him negatively last year. And and
again I can't underscore he had a lot of stuff
going on in his life, Like this was a guy
that that I don't think everybody knows the full scope

(01:07:11):
of everything that was going on in the Baker Mayfield bubble,
but it was a lot. And I think he's trying
to dial that back and focus on I think in
his mind realizing this is what it means to be
a professional now. Like I I can get away with
so much in the past up to a certain point,
but you know, for me to be a professional and succeed,

(01:07:31):
there's certain elements of myself I have to now learn.
The Governor Charles Robinson joining us in the Doug Gotlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, the Dad thing has
been feels like a non story story, right, Like we
just we want to know how much Dallas is going
to overpay him. I guess it's kind of what it
feels like to me. They don't have to they got
him on a franchise tag any sense of of if

(01:07:54):
they get this thing done by July. I keep telling
people the same thing and like you know, start watching
July one, and I really think start watching July eight.
Like to me, I don't think they're still arguing of
the same thing, the fourth year versus the fifth year,
and how that impacts the salary that Dak Prescott would

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ultimately get the average per year and then the guaranteed
money in the structure. It's the two sides of looking
at it significantly differently. Dax people want the fourth year,
the Cowboys want the fifth year, and that's what's kind
of throwing these numbers out of whack. Well, this is
the same conversation they were having last summer. It's the
same conversation they were having in September when Jerry Jones
was telling everybody, I think we're close, We're gonna get done.

(01:08:36):
I have all this optimism. And then Dak played a
couple of games and the Cowboys were like, Hey, we're
gonna get this done. And Dax people said, guess what
the price went out? You know, the last price we
talked about, the last number we talked about with you.
We want more now because now he's gone out in
the field, he's played well. You continue to hand him
leverage and he's going to continue to use it. You
know it's so it's just the same. This is the

(01:08:58):
same argument. I kind of made it joke that we've
put this thing in a vitam mix and we keep like,
you know, just blending it up and then pouring it
out over and over again and reserving it. Um. You know.
I it's someone's got a budge here. And I think
the one thing that the Cowboys have going for them
is everybody across the NFL, and I think even agents
now know that next year could be a flat salary cap,

(01:09:20):
like that's how they're going to deal with the potential
lost revenue. And it's unlikely the capital roll back, but
it very very likely could be. It doesn't go up,
it's the same salary cap, and that means that money
is going to get drawn back a little bit moving forward.
So maybe that makes it feel, you know, like the
one on the table for Doc right now, it looks
a little bit better, and you know that could help

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the Cowboys. I still think it gets done, but I'll
say this, if it does not get done, if he
plays this year in the franchise tag, that guy will
go through all the tags. He'll tag it out, just
like Kirk Cousins and he will go to free agents.
I think this is the last time to get the
long term deal done. I think if it doesn't get
done now, it's over. Wow. That's that would be and
that would be fascinating. Charles Robbins and falm on Twitter

(01:10:03):
at Charles Robinson and check out his Yahoo Sports NFL podcast.
It's a good one, Charles, thanks so much for joining us. Yeah,
thanks for pleasures all mine. Lebron James is not the
m v P. I'll prove it to you next. Be
sure to catch the live edition of the Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app Doug

(01:10:26):
godlic Show Fox Sports Radio. Every day. This time we
play for you a previous portion of TV show on
Fox Sports One or radio show on Fox Sports Radio.
We call it and now. Damian Lillard said yesterday he
thinks Lebron James should be the NBA's m v P
in two thousand twenty. This is calling Cowhard's reaction. Of course,

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he's the m v P. For the last six or
seven years. The NBA media has tried to convince me
his run is over. First it was k d Kadi
is not built like Lebron. Katie gets hurt a lot.
Kadi emotionally couldn't handle Draymond Green. Katie's not Lebron. He's

(01:11:10):
just a great player. He's a great scorer. That's Kauai.
Kauai didn't play every third game. Kauai is great, but
he's not Lebron James. He's not verbal, he's not carrying
the league. He's on the second best team in Los Angeles.
And then there's Janis. Janice is him, Okay, Yannis is
way sixty minutes to the piece. Janice Is playoff record

(01:11:34):
is seventeen and seventeen. That's in the East. Lebron has
never lost a first round playoff series. Janna is only
one two playoff series. Every team Lebron leaves disintegrates. He
left the Eastern Conference, it disintegrated. Yeah, I don't I

(01:11:56):
don't understand how that what that means about Lebron being
the m v P just because Lebron is a great player.
And I don't think the Eastern Conference disintegrated when he left,
because the Toronto Raptors actually came from the Eastern Conference
and actually won the NBA championship where they helped out.
Were they helped out by the fact the Warriors were injured? Sure?
But I mean you can't say that the league that

(01:12:18):
the East collapsed when the Raptors actually won the championship
coming out of the East, can they? Yeah? Look, I
think if you're if you're gonna vote for Lebron for
m v P, you're gonna do so because the Lakers
were a mess last time, this year, last year, this time,
and because of his age and would I would I

(01:12:40):
take Lebron right now ahead of Janice in a big game?
Of course I would, because he's been there so many
times and he's he's probably still a better overall player.
But the m v P is not about who the
better overall player is historically, not even about who the
better player is in a one game stereo. It's about
the m v P who had the best season on
the best team. And that's be honest. Whether you whether

(01:13:02):
you love his game or don't love his game, or
think it translates or not, that's what the Fox said.
You're saying, Ryan, you had your your hand up there
in the bag. It's funny because it feels like all
of those same reasons can be applied to a lot
of what people have said about Michael Jordan in the past, right,

(01:13:24):
I mean, on the heels of this the last dance
every single year for like a ten year period, take
away the year and a half that he took off.
When Michael Jordan was at his peak, he was, without
a doubt the best player in the league, but he
didn't win eight or nine m vps. So it's almost

(01:13:46):
like we've seen the precedent set forth on what the
m v P is, and we can keep getting hung
up on what we think the word value truly means.
But more or less, it's you're on one of the
two or three best teams in the league and you
had the best individual season out of any of those.
But we keep trying to change the definition in the
context of what we think that should mean to be, like, well,

(01:14:08):
Lebron James should have ten m v p s or
Michael Jordan should have had ten m vps. Right right now, listen, listen,
you're right, I mean, you understand it. Buy or if
I was to ask you who's the m v P
of the n B, I'm sorry, you can working right now.
Give me that's that's not a night. Don't not that finger.
Give me the thumbs down. Ramos, you are our native

(01:14:30):
Laker fan. Are you a Lebron m v P or
Janis m VP? I would say you honest, but it's
close for me, I think it's I actually think it's
close as well. I don't think the argument can be
made about past years. I don't think the argument can
be made about you know, what happened to the Calves
when he left, because he was with the Lakers the
year before, and what what many people forget is he

(01:14:53):
came back and they got worse, not better. Now, did
he had a personal renaissance? Yes, yes, he's had a
personal renaissance, absolutely has So I don't know. I mean,
I'm not sure it matters much to me in regards

(01:15:14):
to who wins the m v P. This is actually
something that I felt like kind of got made up
as we went along, right, it got to be a
bigger thing than it actually. Even when Jordan didn't get
the m v P, it made have ticked him off,
but it wasn't as discussed as this is. This has
discussed a bunch in all honesty, because the ESPN owns
the rights to the NBA, and they've known the regular
season NBA has been terribly boring and a foregone conclusion

(01:15:37):
with the Warriors and with Lebron or whatever. And it's
a way to make people watching and and have some
sort of opinion on something that they don't really care
to have an opinion on. Normally makes sense, I think,
so all right, I got a lot still to get
to here looking at a rundown. What's up coming up?
John Palm Rose is gonna join us top of next hour.

(01:15:58):
You know, the baseball thing is in interesting. Look, I
don't want you to if you're a baseball player, don't
just sign in and give up a bunch of money
and sign a bad deal. Like nobody's saying, like, hey,
just hand over your money and play for free. But
there's a reasonable nature with how you should approach a negotiation, right,
That's That's really kind of what this comes down to.

(01:16:20):
And I guess my question is that feels like the
owners are being reasonable, feels like the players are not
being reasonable? Am I totally wrong? Well? That's John Paul Morossi.
He joins his next in The Doug Golip Show. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on

(01:16:41):
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio A app.
What Updug Godlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're
having a good day. Doug Gotlip Show rolls on here
from sunny southern California. John Paul Morosy covers Major League
Baseball for Fox Sports and mob Network. Also comes to
the NHL. I'll get his the it's on the NHL
plans in a second. But um, look, we're reacting to

(01:17:05):
two things. Apparently Scott Morris's there's an email people found
out Scott Boars sent to his climates like dude, don't
give back another penny? And if and do they wanted
to give back a penny, have opened up their books
and show how much money they've been making the past
couple of years. That was echoed by Max Scherzer, if
not the best one of the two or three best
pitchers in baseball for the last half decade, who took

(01:17:28):
to Twitter and said, you know why I even talked
to Major League Baseball. They want us to give back
more money. We already made an agreement to give back
some we ain't give them back anymore. Let's welcome in
John Paul Morosi JP, did I did I sum it
up blowing up? Or did I miss something? Well? Dog,
good afternoon. I think that's a pretty uh fair representation

(01:17:49):
of what has been said to this point in time.
And now it's a matter of over the next four
to five days. I believe if there is a middle
ground to be found, I am still optimistic that there is.
I leave that one really important distinction here is that
the union had come out basically saying a week or
so ago reportedly that they were not going to be

(01:18:09):
supportive of the notion of a revenue sharing situation. UH,
and notably, Baseball's proposal did not include that. Baseball's proposal
this week did include UH salary rollbacks that Baseball says
are attributable to the fact that there's not an expectation
of any fans being in the stands at this point
in time. And that was Baseball's first offer, and now

(01:18:31):
it's it's the second offer obviously from the union is
coming here at the end of the week. I still believe,
Doug there is room to compromise, whether it's by putting
some of that those earnings into escrow or having some
of the payments be deferred. There are ways to make
the mathematics work, even though at this point in time,
as you point out publicly, at least the sides appeared

(01:18:53):
to be in very different places. Um, I don't really
understand baseball players need to make this public to they
do realize you're not winning any public sentiment, right well,
I think that in general, First of all, it's a
difficult time for any large business to be having negotiating
and bargaining occur in the public forum. I think we

(01:19:17):
all understand the optics of that are are are very difficult.
I think that they are trying to trying to represent
their side, just as MLB has has maybe at different
times as well. I really think it's important. While the
conversation is obviously difficult to have in the midst of
a pandemic about uh the certainly sums of money this large,

(01:19:39):
I would say that in general, I'm gonna try my
best to reserve judgment on on everything until we get
to a spot where, hopefully next week there's an agreement
or not. I think that the critical time is not today,
The critical time is next week, because next week is
when MLB in the Union, but I really have to
have an agreement in place that that allows them to

(01:20:00):
get the season going by July, which is important because
that would hopefully allow there to be enough games where
the players make closer to the money that they were
expecting to make, and MLB is able to get the
postseason in in time UH to hopefully avoid the second
spike in cases in the fall. So that's that is
where I think the overall conversation lies. And I think
it's important to as as hard as it is right now, Doug,

(01:20:23):
for us to be patient and let that process go
forward as as unseemly as it may be right now
before we really make that judgment sometime next week. John
palm Rossi's joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sport trait A. You talked about the expanded schedule.
They want to play a hundred games. Does that really
make up for the lost revenue of having fans in
the stands? No, not in total, it would not. And

(01:20:46):
I think that's where I think MLB is very correct
in saying that listen, um, the revenue is gone UH
for a full season now, of course, and that even
speaks to the the interim issues of of your only
be broadcasting a certain number of games as opposed to
what the overall season would be. So I think MLB
has done, I think a very fair job of reflecting

(01:21:08):
that revenue reality in in their offer to the players,
and again it was the first offer. I would expect
there will still be some back and forth you in
the coming days, but MLB, I think is very fairly
representing the fact that without the revenues, the overall pay
out of of the salaries to players has to be
different and even dramatically reduced from what it should have

(01:21:31):
been in spring training if there had been fans in
the stands. I think that's one of the key distinctions here, Doug,
is that when there was the interim agreement reached at
the end of March, it was in in the agreement,
at least uh the understandings from around it was that
there would have to be a second conversation if by
the time play began again there would still not be
fans in the stands, And that's where we are right now.

(01:21:52):
There's not really an understanding of really having fans in
stands at any point in time this season, so that
the economics have to be reflected in that, and I
think that MLB is doing the best they can under
the circumstances to have that reality part of the new agreement.
The Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I don't
know if you saw this. Passengers had a tweet Jeff
passed and covers Major League Baseball. Another tremendous inside across baseball.

(01:22:13):
Hundreds of minor league players were cut today and lost
their job, sources tell ESPN. Hundreds more will be released
over the next week. In the end, upward of one
thousand players could see their baseball careers and the minor
leagues have simply been devastated. Like this is the part
no one's talking. I under I fully understand. If you're
set to make you know, ten million dollars and they say,

(01:22:33):
all right, this year you're gonna make you know, you're
gonna agree, and you're gonna make seven, You're like, man,
Then all of a sudden, like no, no no, no, actually
you're gonna make five. Like whoa, whoa, whoa. But this
is you talked about active God, Like we've never Baseball's
minor leagues were already in bad shape. There there were
all there was already questions about kind of the future,

(01:22:54):
and I'm not sure there's the true perception of just
how bad it is and just how inexpensive of potential
replacements are even to the star players. Correct, And that
to me, Doug, and you consider the overall economics of this,
I am much more confident sure of what the major
league structure will look like than I am the minor

(01:23:15):
league because of exactly what you're talking about. The major
league component, you can still make money based on the
fact that games will be on TV. That's not the
case with with the minor leagues. And I think that
that's where the tremendous uncertainty of the moment is really
coming into view. And and Jeff's reporting, I think puts
a lot of in a perspective. There's a lot of careers,

(01:23:35):
a lot of dreams that that will end because basically,
the the industry of of the minor leagues, at least
the player development infrastructure of a lot of teams is shrinking.
And it's shrinking because at the moment, the the large
scale model of that of that part of baseball and
intrinsically involves fans in the stands in large numbers in

(01:23:58):
in small towns, uh in a small to medium sized
cities around our country and then around North America, and
until it's safe to do that UM written large from
public health perspective, it really is difficult to see minor
league baseball as a as a viable economic entity coming
back in large numbers. And now that certainly we could
still see and probably will still see this year minor

(01:24:21):
league players staying ready, likely in a connection to the
major league camp. Maybe they're just gonna be playing inter
squad games based either at the spring training site or
or with the major league club. But Doug that to
your point into Jeff's reporting, it's it's simply not going
to be anything like it was at that level of
baseball UM for the for seable future. And that's somebody

(01:24:42):
that covered the minor leagues as a young reporter, loved
the minor leagues. It really is is a difficult thing
to take and to realize that that's part of the
consequences of what we're going through right now. John Palmer Rossi,
joining us in the Doug out Lips Show on Fox
Sports Radio that said, I do think eventually this deal
gets one right, and when it gets done they're gonna

(01:25:03):
play in stadiums, they're gonna do the bubble thing. What
do you think ultimately, I mean, obviously looks like universal
Universal d H stick, What do you think happens. I think, Doug,
it's gonna be that that arrangement of a compressed schedule
where you're staying in your geographic third of the country.
From an inter league standpoint, um so n L West

(01:25:23):
plays the a L West and certainly a lot of
games within your division to limit the amount of very
distant travel. Universal d H Yes, and the expanded playoff
structure to me is exciting because that you would have
instead of five playoff teams in each league, you would
have seven. That's more revenue. And also, I think really importantly, Doug,
if there's a way to get this as part of
the long term plan for the game in the midst

(01:25:45):
of all the things being discussed right now, if that
change is made permanent, that has got to be looked
upon as a real win for the Union too, because
when you've got two additional playoff spots and they're not
just one game, it's actually a three game series, at
the very least, you're gonna have more teams that have
been designing their payroll and they're spending based on algorithms

(01:26:09):
and postseason odds. Your chance of making the playoffs now
goes up significantly of having a three game series. When
you're able to expand the playoffs from five teams to
seven in each league, that is a huge deal. And
so if MLB and the Union can find a way
to agree on this, the Union certainly would sign up
for this. I think right now that that part of it,
with the expanded playoffs, and that has a chance, Doug,

(01:26:30):
to really manifestly affect the way the teams spend their
money for years to come because their odds of making
the playoffs will be better, and that, to me, has
been driving a lot of the depression and spending that
that players have have not liked in recent years has
been because of that calculation of your playoff odds. The
better your odds, the more you spend. We already saw
them starting to change with the Reds and the White

(01:26:50):
Soxes past winter, and I am hopeful, Doug that we're
gonna see that resume in the years to come, maybe
not this coming winner, but certainly in the in the
the winners after that. As the industry returns more to
his normal operation. John Palm ROSSI joining us NHL wise,
I'm here in Vegas is done and Edmonton is the
possible other one is that what you're hearing. Uh, not

(01:27:12):
not quite yet in terms of having things narrowed down
that far. I do think the unique thing about this
DOUG is going to be and while Vegas said, I
think it has a lot to a lot to say
for itself. I think also maybe you would have one
of the the sites in the eastern half of the
country or North America to help logistically to balance things out.
The one thing about having the one of the hubs
in Canada one hub in the US is some of

(01:27:34):
the cross border travel eventually down the line to play
your Stanley Cup final could become a little problematic. So
I really think it makes sense to either be all
in Canada or all in the US from where I sit.
But I think, certainly, uh, the league is working through
a lot of different logistics there, and they've got a
lot of great host cities possibly to consider in the
eastern half it would be likely Columbus or Toronto, but

(01:27:54):
we'll see. But I think Vegas, with all the hotels
they're doug. I think that's a really good point that
you make about, uh, the infrastructure and the ability to
host a lot of people in one very small area.
I think in Vegas they've really got a lot on
their favor. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Vegas is opening
up next week June four. There'll be some good parties. Obviously,
they're gonna they're gonna have crowd police to check in temperatures.

(01:28:16):
Will see how that goes, So they'll have they'll be
up and running before the NHL players can get there,
and uh we we we'll see. Obviously they've been just
dying in terms of losing money. But all the flights
starting to crank up and get back to Vegas. We'll
see if that's where the NHL gets JP awesome, awesome stuff. Um,
last thing, let's go back to baseball. How much of

(01:28:38):
this is how much of the Boors email affects Boors
business in the future. Well, certainly Scott has so many
high profile clients, and he's got so many guys that
signed mega deals just this winter. Garret Cole, Anthony Rendon.
Uh So, I think Scott in in so many ways
is a brand unto himself and UH and and the

(01:29:00):
ocean of Scott taking a prominent role in terms of
trying to guide his players and his clients and influencing
UH their thought precedents, their thought process, and their ability
to be spokespeople for his His position is not surprising
to me as someone who's covered the game for a
long time. I think Scott has UH. Scott really have

(01:29:21):
not changed much in the past, Doug, and I think
that the current moment will not really change too much
of who he is in the future. He's a pretty
consistent person in terms of how he interacts with with
the world and with baseball, and I would expect that
in the midst of the rather contenous movement right now,
whatever the outcome is here, I still think a year
or two from now, he's gonna have high profile clients

(01:29:42):
and probably still represent them and and get some pretty
big deals for them here in the future too. John
palmeros c JP, awesome insight. Thanks so much, man. Doug
always thought the conversation my friend to look forward to
the next one. Hopefully we've got baseball to talk about
back on the field here in the next couple of weeks.
I feel the same John Palmeross. He joins us in
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I think this team is at the beginning of building
a dynasty, and for some reason, a lot of people disagree.
We'll discuss it next. Be sure to catch the live
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(01:30:26):
Show and he had a Super Bowl Contenders next season,
and he didn't include the Packers. I would point out
to you that the Packers were in the NFC Championship game,
and had the Seahawks had any sort of competency in
the last game of the regular season against the Niners
scored when they had a was a delay a game.

(01:30:46):
It was a delay a game right now, delay a
game right at like the one ft line or whatever.
Any sort of competency they score, the Packers have home
field advantage and it might be a completely different Super Bowl. Also,
keep in mind the Packers essentially return their entire team.
Aaron Rodgers was upright and healthy. Aaron Jones became a star,

(01:31:07):
The Smith Boys became tremendous Russian Now do they match
up well with the Niners? They do not, but to
not have them as Super Bowl contenders. Okay. I saw
this from Matt Lafleur, who told Rob Demovsky and Rob
Covers the team's local beat guy for I think for ESPN,
he's really good. One area we need to improve on

(01:31:28):
is creating more explosive plays. We're pretty efficient, but we
were twenty three and explosive. Place that starts to play
calling and maybe take a few more chances to help
generate those plays down the field. UM on their on
the NFL dot Com has they're they're all under twenty
five team like uh Elgin uh Elgin. Jenkins is their

(01:31:52):
offensive guard, he's on it. Kenny Clark defensive lineman is
on it. Aaron Jones only twenty five, Davante Adams, Darius
Smith is eight once the season starts, Preston Smith and yes,
Aaron Rodgers is a little long in the tooth and
people freaked out when they drafted a guy they hope
can be his his replacement. But Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback

(01:32:13):
quarterbacks have shown they can play into their thirties and
you know some into their forties. Go ahead and look
around like Davante Adams, He's been banged up a bunch,
but twenty seven years old, Like that's what that's that's
your prime. He's not thirty two. And as much as
and I agree with, you know you're gonna do a

(01:32:34):
self scout the end of your first year. You know,
you can try and figure some things out. What what
can we do better? What what can we fix? What
can we do better? And when your coach says Matton
Flores says, we need more explosive plays, like look, that's
their first year in the offense, Saron Rodgers. Very different
feel for you know, what to call, how to audibleize,

(01:32:55):
and and kind of a feeling. It's like first year
in an offense is you know, the first rounds of
a championship fight. We're like, man, why are they just
kind of punching and dancing around and trying to get
a feel over. They don't want to walk into a haymaker.
That's what the Packers are doing. Last year year one
here's our offense. No, you're one. Our offense isn't gonna

(01:33:19):
be Let's just chuck it down the field. That's what
frustrated people about the Packers offense before La flour got there.
Some control, establish a running game. Give Aaron Rodgers a
chance to do play action, so you know he has
a chance to to keep the linebackers close to the
line of scrimmage. Open up some of those windows, and yeah,
they're gonna have to throw the ball down the field.
Now some of it is also personnel. Do they do

(01:33:40):
they have a burner? The answer is no. But I
I don't know, Like, do I think they're a favorite?
The NFC is stacked. But give me the Packers or
anybody else in the NFC East, I take the Packers.
Anybody else in the NFC North, I take the Packers.
NFC South. Were to believe Tampa Bay and I struggle
with Amba Bay only in that they haven't done anything

(01:34:02):
for a decade. Saints, you're a good team, okay, But
do I think Aaron Rodgers can win a game on
the road better than Drew Brees? Can? I do? And
then you go out to the West and they know
what they don't match up well with the with the Niners.
They beat the Seahawks in the playoffs the rams of

(01:34:23):
nine and seven, and I would take the Packers ten
times in ten and then there's there's like again. So
this idea they're not a super is frankly kind of laughable.
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(01:34:45):
Robinson joined the show earlier today. I thought he was very,
very insightful about Dak Prescott and the Cowboys negotiation. Take
a listen, someone's got a budge here. And I think
the one thing that the Cowboys have going for them
is everybody across the NFL. And I think even agents
now know that next year could be a flat sour
chap and that means that money is going to get
drawn back a little bit moving forward. So maybe that

(01:35:05):
makes it feel, you know, like the one on the
table for Doc right now, it looks a little bit better.
I still think it gets done, but I'll say this,
if it does not get done, if he plays this
year in the franchise tag. That guy will go through
all the tags, he'll tag it out just like Kirk Cousins,
and he will go to free agency. I think this
is the last time to get the long term deal done.
I think if it doesn't get done now, it's over.

(01:35:27):
M hm m We're not we're doing one time again.
I I don't think that to be true either. I
I do believe that Charles Robinson is tied in. Okay,
he knows people in the lake. Do I think you
know he was all over the Zeke stuff? Like? Do
I think he knows who he's talking about? Yes, you're like,
well you just said you don't. Okay, But this is

(01:35:49):
the stance that Das people put down. You got one
chance to negotiate. If not, we're going to free agency
in three years. Like, come on, man, So you mean
to tell me if we over or you offer you
forty million dollars a year, you're not gonna take it.
Of course you are, of course you are. Now you
may it may be the last time that you can
get him at thirty five million a year. That's possible.

(01:36:12):
We talked about this though, and and frankly Charles Chawk
talked about this there's a chance of a flat salary
cap next year. One in four Americans is not working
of our country. This idea that there's not just endless
supplies of money and at some point there will be

(01:36:32):
a dialing back of the more and more and more
and more money. And if it's next year, cowboys may
have ended up timing this terribly for a wrong long
time and perfectly for right now, perfectly. So I just
don't like the idea of, oh, I'm never gonna do
another deal ever, ever, ever, period. Do you buy that

(01:36:53):
music that that there's just no way, zero chance. Dak
Prescott negotiates a towards I do buy it um in
the sense that within the context of exactly what he
used the example of with Kirk Cousins, I was someone
who always found it hard to believe that, you know,

(01:37:13):
the precedent throughout most of the NFL is most teams
are willing to slightly overpay to keep a quarterback so
that they have a rock solid foundation to build their
team around. Um. You know, a lot of NFL people
always used the saying as like, you know, it's always
a it's a terrible existence to drive in the car
to the facility every day, not knowing what you have

(01:37:35):
at the quarterback position. So I think that as this
drags out, you know, Troy Aikman is even alluded to
the fact that there could be some hurt feelings as
these negotiations continue to drag out, and if it's not
done this year and he plays on the franchise tag,
if they try to renegotiate and Dak Prescott keeps holding

(01:37:55):
true to well, hey, the longer you don't pay me,
the higher the price tag is going to go. I'm
not sure if a franchise tag for the second year
in a row is going to make much sense for
the Cowboys, and he may end up walking in free agency. Yeah, um, look,
it's a possibility. Yeah, I don't necessarily think it's it's
the most likely of scenarios. You know, the most likely

(01:38:19):
thing to occur is that they end up working out
the franchise tag. But I do think I put a
lot of stuck in the fact that if we do
enter the start of the next season and he's not
under a long term deal, I do think it's very
realistic that that could end up being the result at
the end of the year. It's possible but the end

(01:38:40):
of the year again they can know from the franchise
tagging off from new contract and not take it like.
There's so many unknowns, so many unknowns. Hows he fit
with Mike McCarthy and what he wants to do? Can
he improve? Do they start beating the bad team the
good teams after only beating the bad teams last year?
What does the quarterback market look like? What does the
salary cap look like? They're just so many unknowns that

(01:39:03):
I do think that while time had been working against
the Cowboys this entire offseason with Dak Prescott, now suddenly
it's it's very much working for them, very much working
for them in my opinion. Um I also wanted to
get to this, so Scott Borris apparently has emailed his clients.

(01:39:25):
This was obtained by the Associated Press. Remember, games cannot
be played without you. Players should not agree to for
the pay cuts to bail out the owners. Let the
owners take some of their record revenues and profits from
the past several years and pay you the pro rated
salaries you've agreed to accept, or let them borrow against
the ass uh the assets of values they've created for

(01:39:48):
use of those profits. Players generated what Scott Borris is.
The argument Scott Borris is making is, hey man, they
weren't going to give you an extra piece of the
pie when they were making records and revenues. Why should
you feel some of the negativity, feel some of the

(01:40:09):
damage when all of a sudden now there in record
setting debt And that sounds good, that sounds tough. Max
Scherzer's tweet last night after discussing the latest developments with
the rest of the players, there's no reason to engage
with Major League Baseball in any further compensation reductions. We
have previously negotiate a pay cut in the version of

(01:40:29):
pro rated salaries, and there's no justification to accept a
second pay cut based upon the current information the union
has received. I'm glad to hear players voice in the
same viewpoint and believe MLB's economic strategy would completely change
if all documentation were to become public information. If people
knew how much money you made the past couple of years,
they would be really upset that you weren't paying us more. Well,

(01:40:52):
guess what what idiots think on Twitter about a million
dollars billion dollar businesses making money? Does didn't matter? They
don't realize that they also absorb all of this collateral
damage all of it. Businesses make money, that's how they
pay out that money. And if you want to share

(01:41:12):
in the profits, that's a revenue share. Well, isn't that
what was offered to you by the owners that was
somehow offensive and somehow a salary cap that my living
in a in a parallel universe to the one that
actually exists, because the one that I remember last week,
Tony Clark, Tony Clark, the head of the n m
l b p A, was like, no, no, we can't

(01:41:33):
do a revenue share. You can do revenue split. No way,
that's a salary cap. Okay, But now you're basically having
your most powerful agents say why didn't Why don't you
a revenue split on on the revenue generated last year?
Why don't use that revenue to pay you for this year? Hey,

(01:41:54):
I'm I'm not sure, Scott, if you're aware of this
or your clients aware of this, why don't you do
a little math here? Let's you do a little math.
He The estimations are, there's unemployment, and you also have
to calculate the fact that that means of working age
eighteen are over unemployed. There are three and fifty million

(01:42:17):
people in the United States. All right, if it's one
in four adults, we're gonna say sixty million people. Sixty
million people unemployed, Like the it a thousand minor league
baseball players are gonna lose their gig altogether, And you're
going to worry about the fact that the owner has

(01:42:38):
made a bunch of money last year, So why can't
they use some of that money to pay you this year?
They are using some of that money. They're using some
of that money to keep people in the front office
that they don't want to see fired or that they
want to see furload. They got to use some of
that money to pay the debt service in their building,
to continue to update and continue to do maintenance. Same
thing with their minor league facilities. Like all these things

(01:43:00):
cost money, and there is no with no games, there's
no revenue coming in. And to dismiss that as greedy
is disingenuous at best. It really is. I'm not pro owner.
I don't care the owners are gonna make money. I'm
pro pro reality. I'm pro negotiation. Hey, the what they've

(01:43:23):
asked for won't work. Keep working on it. Come back,
let's figure this thing out. That's all show sures you
need to say or not say anything at all. But
the open the books argument is a dumb argument. Nobody's
open the books for you. Oh hey, I want you
only want you to open your book on the really
good year. Don't open your books on the bad year
this year. Good luck with that one. The NFL didn't

(01:43:44):
listen to their fans. I'll explain how next. Fox Sports
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s R to listen live. Take a listen to what
Pat Beverly said talking to Scott Van Pelt about the
NBA right now and their potential return to play. But

(01:44:04):
I'm away to lead find out some more important details
about exactly what's going on before I put my family's
safety at risk by going to uh the facility. But
it's the cleanest place in l A. Of course, you
know what the facility is. But I don't know if
I'm just ready yet. You know, I'm eager to play,
ready to play. I just want things to you know,
kind of calm down a little bit more and kind
of go back to normal. I hold myself still accountable

(01:44:25):
to achieve their goal because it's still open. I mean,
I'm a basketball player. If I didn't get paid to
play basketball, still play it in the same passion and everything.
So taking ball the way it was a big challenge.
You know, I'm eager to get back out there and
we're ready to go. Baby, we're just waiting on the NBA.
Like check ball NBA. You know, we're waiting on y'all.
That's Patrick Beverley um yesterday on SPP. He look I

(01:44:47):
like the positivity. Hey man, I'm ready to go. I
just need a couple more, Like, what more do you need?
He just said to clean his place. You know, here's
one of the things that it's very important. Kay. The
nb E likes to say that partnership with the players
is not there there your player your employee. Your player

(01:45:07):
your employee, and sometimes you're an employee, like you don't
have to know everything. I'd like to know everything. I'd
like to know whose contracts up, what are we moving around,
how are we going to handle the pandemic stuff, what's
our plan for the fall? Late late some We're gonna
have a ton ton of sports, you know who's taken

(01:45:27):
one off, but like, none of that's my business. My
business is like, Hey, what days are you gonna be here?
What days are you gonna be in studio? What days
are we what days are you gonna fill in for
Cowherd or for Dan Patrick? Whatever? Outside of that, like
the rest is not really under your purview. We're all
on what's called a need to know basis. You don't
need to know everything, and like, what are they gonna

(01:45:50):
tell Patrick? Every Like, look, dude, we haven't decided, so
giving you information in the way through doesn't really help us.
And sorry, but your opinion doesn't actually matter on this thing.
Paxt here's your Thursday, Pat. Here's your Thursday update. We
don't know. Sixteen to twenty teams likely Orlando training facility
is open for one on ones team stuff, probably starting

(01:46:12):
next week, maybe the week after. We'll let you know
when we know. And that's it. That's it. Here's your
Friday update, Pat, Same place, same place, same place. Let's
let's get to the press, the press, what I've done,

(01:46:41):
what I'm dan don We start off with the news
from Texas Governor Greg Abbott saying today that outdoor professional
sporting events in their state will allow spectators up to
capacity of the venue. Okay, so that's good for boxing.
I think boxing is the best, right. But it also

(01:47:01):
allows you to think that the Rangers and Astros could
play games and have some and help navigate some of this,
or whatever baseball teams could could navigate some of this. Uh.
It doesn't mean that baseball is gonna come back and
gonna do that, but it does offer up the possibility.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says the virtual offseason will continue
over the next two weeks, but he expects coaches will

(01:47:23):
be allowed of team facilities as soon as next week. Yeah,
that's that, Like, it all sounds reasonable here. We're gonna
start to get back going, start to get back online,
get the coaches in there first, and you know, you
got players, some of them working out, and eventually get
the whole groups together. Now there's an additional part to this.
Starting Monday, the league is allowing teams to open up
team shops and ticket facilities if they had by by

(01:47:47):
local and state regulations. I think that one could be busy,
I'm not sure about the other one, or at least
have business I'm not sure about the other one though.
Yeah yeah, well, um you know I I I think
what we're opening stuff up and unless the numbers get
really really bad, what we have to realize is that

(01:48:09):
sports right now actually probably offers a safer place to
be than even your own home or outside of your
own home. For sure. Fourth and fifteen a no go
NFL owners today. We're thought to have voted on it,
but the NFL Network says it actually never even got
to an official vote. During the virtual meeting, a rays

(01:48:31):
of hands was asked for for those in favor of
doing the fourth and fifteen option instead of an onside kick.
There weren't enough votes, so it never really even went
up for a vote, So the replacement for the on
side kick for the season will not take place. That's good,
I mean, like, look, I'm not gonna kill the NFL
for bad ideas that didn't go to a vote. You know.

(01:48:54):
That's what happened with the UH with the one of
the proposed change is the rewarding of for minority coaches,
you know, in regards to the ruining rule. And that's
what happens with this. I didn't love the idea. I
didn't think it was football, and though they have a
little bit more sport, clearly not enough to get it past.
That's why they didn't put it to a vote. I
thought the public though the I thought, I don't know

(01:49:16):
if it was overwhelmingly, but I felt that it was.
It was close to a majority or a definite majority
that people wanted this sort of play in the National
Football League. Art Root of the second Steelers president called
it kind of too gimmicky, But I thought that the
reaction from the fans was was very positive that you
could have a play like this second and I have

(01:49:38):
no I have no doubt that it was positive from
the fans. But that's again offseason. You know, fans like
what the fans on social media. Of course, of course
they love that. NFL owners, by the way, did pass
the proposal to stop teams from manipulating the clock with
dead ball follows like the Titans did to the Patriots
in the a f C wild card game above the

(01:50:00):
five minute mark in that fourth. But that's a very
patriot thing to do, right. No, the rules, used the rules,
and the loophole. We knew that loophole will be closed up.
There was one do you remember when The Ravens played
the Niners in the Super Bowl, and the last punt
of the game, the Ravens everybody on the field, everybody
held everybody because they were gonna they were gonna run

(01:50:21):
out and get a safety anyway. They just want to
run out the clock. So everybody grabbed the guy next
to him and just held them and it and it
gave them way way more time out the field, because
what's what's the penalty for holding in the end zone?
A safety which accomplished was what they were going to get.
Anyone still just and I was at that Super Bowl.
Just remember when the power went out in the Super Dome.

(01:50:44):
I remember where I was too. I was on my
way to a show. My show on CBS Sports Network
followed the Super Bowl, albeit on Supervio Supports Network. And
this is the true story I had asked me. I
was in New Orleans all week. We flew home Friday
night after our show or Saturday morning from him, and
I remember asking my boss is like, Hey, do you
want us to hang around? Got a bunch of sets
here just in case, because at ESPN, anytime they have

(01:51:07):
a broadcast, you have somebody just in case sitting at
one of the desks in case the bird goes down,
the bird being the satellite. CBS guys like, now, we've
got plenty of people. Be fine. I swear to God
that's what happened. So then I get a call, frantic call, Hey,
the powers out. Can you get to the studio we
were about to be put on during the Super Bowl.
And I'm telling you that you talk about a rinky

(01:51:27):
dink studio and it would have been fumbling, stumbling, bumbling.
Well it was. It was crazy because not only did
the lights go out, you were inside of the dome
and that's what was weird. And this wasn't I mean
at an event like that. It was. It was such
a big deal. At first, You're kind of like, oh

(01:51:48):
my goodness, what is going on, Like, how in the
world could half of the lights at the Super Dome
end up you know, shorting out? But it ended up happening,
so they were they were struggling for sure. Uh. Some
more news from the NFL Cardinals quarter Patrick Peterson says
that he hasn't had any talks on an extension with
the team this soft season as he enters the final

(01:52:10):
year of his deal. Who's that Patrick Peterson yeah. I mean, like,
I like Patrick Peterson, smart guy. But remember he wanted
off the team because they were bad. They redid his deal.
Now it's his last year his deal. Like, if you
can still play, he'll get a new deal. If not,
he'll be a free agent dealt elsewhere. I don't really

(01:52:32):
I'm not sure he's what he used to be. But
we'll see some transfer news in the world of college football.
Former USC starter J T. Daniels announcing he is going
to transfer to Georgia and be a Georgia Bulldog doesn't
make sense to me. But come on, man, I mean,
I guess they had a quarterback that didn't have a

(01:52:53):
great arm for another quarterback that doesn't have a great arm.
But I just that makes sense to me. They'll have
to sit out unless he gets a waiver from the
n C Ballet But J T. Daniel very unlikely a
California kid gets a waiver to go to Georgia, you know,
coming staying close to home. But maybe some college hoops news.
Kentucky and Notre Dame got to start a three game
series between the two schools. They used to play. Uh,

(01:53:15):
there used to be a double header in Indianapolis. If
you remember Notre Dame, Indiana, Uh, Perdue. I think Louisville
and Kentucky. I think that's what it was. That was
a good one and they used to sell out the dome,
the r the r c A Dome. They need to
get back to that. Yeah, didn't Kentucky in Indiana also
play in Louisville Like whence they play at Freedom Hall.

(01:53:36):
It's just kind of a neutral court setting. I thought
that that was the case, yeah, because then then when
UK would play Indiana, they would play at the Hoosier Dome,
which is still a you know, well our c A
don't whatever it was back then. But anyway, Boston Marathon
officially is canceled. The race was originally postponed from April
until September fourteenth, but now it won't be running at all.

(01:53:58):
In MM boy bus marathons had some tough, tough things
happened to it, right, But I remember when I was
broadcasting during the bombing and made it back from that.
If you make it back now, you can make it
back from the cancelation due to COVID. Finally, dog, we're
gonna tee it up here. Some good news and some
bad news for gold Hold on real quick should it
be canceled? I mean it's outdoors running. The Boston has

(01:54:21):
prohibited any large gatherings in the city through Labor Day
and this would be a few weeks after that, so
I think that they're still having concerns um and there
would be a lot of people are losing a lot
of a lot of money, but they are canceling it. Finally,
pg A PGA Tours John Dear Classic that was scheduled
for July nine through the twelve has been canceled. PGA

(01:54:42):
Tour tried to look for a replacement event. TPC saw
Grass was brought up as a possibility, and the European
Tour in Golf will resume play on July twenty two,
but they have a modified u K swing, so they're
just gonna be playing tournaments in England and in Wales
over six weeks to lay limit traveled for player. The
press European Tour needs to make some money otherwise they'll

(01:55:05):
get bought by the American Tour, which is very very
likely to happen. John Middlecoff joined just tomorrow, so too
does Doug Waley. Doug Waley was the GM of the
Buffalo Bills helped as part of the construction of this
roster which Joan mcderman has taken over and UH and
he and UH was been um Brandon Bean have have
now taken to the playoffs two of the last three years.

(01:55:25):
We'll get his thoughts, his thoughts on Tyrod Taylor as well.
That's all coming up tomorrow. I hope you're ready for
a great weekend. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show, only
on Fox Sports Radio.

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