May 28, 2020 • 45 mins
Doug discusses the ongoing negotiations between MLB owners and players and how ugly things are getting as fans wait for games to return this summer. He also thinks Baker Mayfield is making the right decision by saying he’s taking the “quiet” approach to the 2020 season. Plus, NFL Insider Charles Robinson joins the show to share some surprising news about Dak Prescott’s future with the Cowboys.
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But let's start with Major League Baseball because the the
the I'm gonna go with breaking story of the day,
I'm gonna go with breaking story of the day is
it's not that baseball Baseball's players and um excuse me,
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baseball players and they're uh owners are at it an
impast that's different from any other time when they are
at an impass. But it's the it's what the players
are doing which is really interesting and I think in
many ways disruptive. So here's what happened. And look, I
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actually I don't know if there's anybody who is, was,
or can be determined to be better in the sport
than Max Scherzer. Right like Max Serzer has won a
cy Young in both leagues. Max Scherzer bet on himself. Remember,
he's offered a contract to stay with the Tigers. Instead
he turned it down, had a great year and signed
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a huge deal with Washington Nationals, and then, of course
this year the Washington Nationals finally broke through and won
a World Series. So, in no way, in no way
is this to impugne the credibility of Max Scherzer. I
think Scherzer is awesome. But what he's doing, well, like, look,
he's basically doing his agents work and oh yeah, by
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the way, he's doing something that you just can't do
at this point in time. Real unemployment, Okay, real unemployment
is like one in four Americans, American adults not working.
Think about that for a second. One in four Americans
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not working. So look, I understand when you're set to
make a crazy amount of money and somebody says, hey,
we need you to take a little bit less, and
you're like, all right, I don't want to do it,
but I'll do it. And then you get really close
to come back and they're like, you know what, we
need to have some more money back. This is what
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Max Scherzer tweeted out yesterday after discussing the latest developments
with the rest of the players, there's no reason to
engage with MLB in any further compensation reductions. We have
previously negotiated a pay cut in the in the version
of approriated salaries, and there's no justification to accept a
second pay cut based upon the current information the union
has received. I'm glad to hear other players voicing the
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same viewpoint and believe MLB's economic strategy would completely change
if all documentation were to be made public information now now,
some of this is is doing the devil's work right
because Scott Boris. There's an email to Scott that Scott
Boars says, don't bail out MLB owners. Scott Boars wants
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his clients to be united. In his email, he said, remember,
games cannot be played without you. Players should not agree
to further pay cuts to bail out the owners. Let
the owners show some of their record revenues and profits
from past several years and pay you the probity of
salaries you agreed to accept, and let them borrow against
the assets they created from the use of these profits
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players generated. Look, this is a very very normal employee argument, right,
A normal employee argument. Hey, We had a record year
last year, and I didn't get any sort of record bonus.
I didn't get any sort of Hey, you made a
bunch of money. I didn't get anything off the top.
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So when things go bad, why do I have to
take an even bigger hair haircut? That's not right. Well,
there's a couple of things that go with it. First,
life's not fair, right, wake up every morning with the
thought in your mind, life is not fair. No one
owes me anything. Okay, let's go to work. The second
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thing is owners own You know I don't I this
is a NBA players make the mistake. And part of
this is how Adam Silver has worded it in in partnership.
It's not a partnership. It's not a partnership. You when
you own a franchise and you own the rights to
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the players, you may not like the word owner, and
you may think it signifies something else. It doesn't. You're
the owner. It's it's on you if it goes under.
That's those are every dollar you loses, your money yours
you had to lay out. I mean, if you think
about it, and look, there's a mix in terms of
Major League Baseball and NBA. There are a couple of
mom and pops. Left right, The Mets are still a
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mom and pop. The Lakers are a mom and pop.
But most of these people made a billion dollars elsewhere,
and this is something that they just wanted to do. Yeah,
they want to make some money with it. They'd like that.
They just love the sport and they love the idea
of ideas of sports, and they have they But you
make all that money your entire professional life and you
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spend it. Why do I have to lose money on it?
Why do I have to take some sort of massive haircut.
If you didn't like the deal, if you weren't getting
cut in on the action when they were going when
you know everything was going up, well that's on you.
That's part of the that's part of the deal that
the Players Association negotiate. And it's a bad one and
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no one would argue it. But by the way, welcome
to the American economy. Welcome to the American economy. And
you can sit here and go you know, um, I'm
a capitalist. No, you're you're not okay in pure capitalism,
pure capitalism, not what we have here, pure capitalism. You
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you probably wouldn't have a union, right, and you also,
if you weren't making money, people would cut bait. This
is we don't live in a purely capitalistic society. We don't.
The American economy works this way though. If you own
a franchise, it's no different from the franchise e you
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know with wherever you eat, Like you go to any
sort of fast food or fast casual place, that franchise
e they a loud, laid down a bunch of money,
and you may think, well, hold on, I'm a manager
and we've been making record setting profits, Like, all right,
did you negotiating that that in your deal? You didn't? Sorry,
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you know, yea our target was to make a hundred
thousand dollars in the month of January, and we made
a hundred fifty and I didn't see a penny of it. Well,
that's on you. If you didn't put the markers in
your contract, that's on you. Well, we just won't play.
Then guess what somebody will. And what you also have
to keep in mind is all of the losses that
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you will sustain. Look, the owners will sustain massive losses
and you might lose a couple of them. There might
be a couple of like, you can't do it, you
can't do it anymore. But they pale in comparison to
the players losses because this is their primary and many
only source of income. It is that unfair. Of course
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it's unfair, you know, of course you'd like the owners
to go like, look, let's just navigate the losses and
you know, see how bad it is when it as
it goes. But this, hey, open the books. They're not
opening the books. There isn't a business on earth that
would open the books to you know, to their workers.
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Nobody's doing that. That's just stupid. That that's that is
really as is obvious pr and bad pr advice from
Scott Borris. Walk into your boss's office and say, listen, boss,
like you know, as I know, you want everybody to
take a tempercent haircut, but I'd really like to see
the numbers for everybody this month maybe like excuse me,
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excuse me, why don't you take the rest of the
month off, and then maybe next month off as well,
and then the month after that and after that after
that for that, Like this doesn't the idea. I look,
make sure you're a great picture, great right, and if
you want to believe you're worth every penny. That's cool.
That's cool because there are a few people on earth
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who have been able to do what you can do
with the baseball. But I mean, look, if you don't
come back, it's not gonna change. It's actually you say, hey,
I'm not playing. Okay, there's a bunch of minor leaguers
that aren't gonna make any money at all this year. None, zero,
zero income. I think those guys want to grab grab
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the old horse hide and throw it around. What do
you think they're They're not as good as you, But
you know what they'll do. They put on the cap,
they run out there, they'll do their best and people
will watch. Do you know why? Because there's nothing else
on and you won't get your year of service, you
won't get your money. You you know, I don't. I
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don't really understand the argument. Again, I'm not saying it's fair,
I'm not saying it's right. I will tell you that
negotiating in public and trying to get the owners to
open their books is just dumb. Why do I have
to open my books for the previous couple of years.
That has nothing to do with the pandemic. Because the
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pandemic affects so many more people. And again, I'm not
even necessarily being critical of Scott Boris because his soul
job is to get his players paid as much as
humanly possible. That's it. That's his only job is to
watch out for their best interest. But in terms of
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being a guardian of the sport of the business, you know,
I'm just I'm not defending the owners. I'm just being
real with you, Like you can have all these fake
conversations you want about yes, stick it to the owners
and yeah, like okay, have fun with that, you know.
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I mean, look, this is this is what we do.
We we get this public sentiment riled up. And yeah,
college sports just moneymaking and they all they do is
use players, Like all right, how many basketball players can
you name that play college basketball last year? You can't?
You know why because you actually need that to make
a name for yourself. Sorry, this way goes. Do you
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get a college education to get that college experience be
around people your age? Again, owners own, and it doesn't
mean that they're they have the right to be abusive
and to get something for nothing. But the idea that
the situation the players running into like oh, we'll just
play more games. Like, no, dude, you don't get it.
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There's an amount of revenue that we're never going to
be able to attain because we don't have fans in
the stands. Sure we can play some more games. That
will help some and they will help with these contracts
for the rs N s and maybe we can generate
some more money, but there's also more cost with it, right, Like,
are your calculation is all off? Well, it's it's a
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pro raded salary. Yeah, pro rade salary based upon a
hunter games is more money. Instead of taking big a
bigger haircut, you're actually trying to take less of a haircut. Like, no,
that's not where we are. You're not getting the message
of how bad this is. Here's the message. One in
four Americans. One in four Americans are not working. They
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don't have jobs, they don't have money to spend, and
there's a good chance that at some point they won't
have the money to spend on either the cable fees
or whatever however you're broadcasting game. As of now, most
most people I know, there's core most over ninety million
people still have the full set of cable in their
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in their house. Your games, right, you still have that
that chance, but you're dealing with a completely unrealistic point
of view. If you put in any part of your conversation,
you know, if they just open up their books to
previous years, they're not They're not. Do you know why?
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Because life's not fair and nobody owes you anything. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I
love the stuff come out of Cleveland. Right. This is
Baker Mayfield in the NFL Network talking about his new
approach to the two thousand twenty season. I have a
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different approach to this year. Everybody that has been interviewed
in our team is kind of hit the nail on
the head over and over about you know, it's just
time to work. It's time to do our thing instead
of talking about it. So this is the first media
thing I've done just because there's no need to be
talking about it. It's just time to go do it.
And right now, it's you know, kind of moving in silence,
which is fun with me. That's how I used to
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do it before getting on a bigger stage. So I'm
happy to get back to those roots. Like I said earlier,
get back to the fundamentals to where I can accomplish
the goals. When the season comes around, it does it
look it, It does feel like, it does feel like
they are really, really really trying, really trying to um
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to to be the team that you know was what's
the Theodore Roosevelt walk quietly carry a big stick, which
is great and probably what they always should have done.
You know, we warned you of it last year. And
this is something that that Tampa is going to have
to deal with. Is is a completely different level of
intensity preparation. What when you come in as the hunt,
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did not the hunter, right when you come in as
a hunt did not the hunter. So I I think
of this, I think it's great, But I also think
that to anyone who says, well, this is a big
year for him, yeah, well, first of all, any year
in the NFL is a really big year. But the
way it works in sporting, all sports, but the way
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it works, especially in UM in sports is the coach
is usually the first to go, and then the gentle
manager president. Sometimes they survive all of it, sometimes they
do not. And then the players go. The coach always
goes first, because there is the the sense, even though
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I don't actually believe it's accurate, it that it's easier
to find another coach than it is to find another
great player. I don't believe that's true, but I do
believe that that this is the progression. Coach goes first,
and if a general manager goes second. Boy, brother, you
better if you're a player, you better bring it. And
if the boss sitting there going like, wait, so you're
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not winning and you're causing a distraction? What am I?
What am I missing here? And you cost a lot
of money? All of that is worth it if you're winning,
None of it is worth it if you're not the
biggest question I have for Baker Mayfield is this. You
know Baker can say this is who I always used
to be. I would, you know, not make comments. I
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would just go play or whatever like That's not really
who Baker has always been. Baker has always been brash.
He has always been the guy who's unafraid. That's why
he had the in factor. Remember John Dorsey, who drafted him,
said he's Brett Farve. That's what they meant, don't care,
and so the question is are you stripping away the
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core of who he is? And some players are only
good when they're there themselves and they're brash and they're
outlandish and they don't care. The second you start to
care is the second you start to change who you are,
and you change who you are, well, that can be
a really dicey proposition because then you're kind of lost.
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Let's worker in Charles Robinson. He covers the NFL for
y'ah who Sports Fall on Twitter at Charles Robinson. Check
out the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. We were talking about
two of about five minutes ago. Mike Freeman's talked to
a bunch of coaches and he's like, look, the expectations
is from the start week one. I don't see it.
I don't get it. You got Fitzpatrick's fine. You know,
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he's taken a seat for people before to us. Coming
off a major injury as well as some other more
minor injuries. You're kind of forming a new team. What's
your sense of the Dolphins and their plans? Granted? We're
still in May and we haven't we don't have a
t S. We don't know when they're all going to
get back together. But what what's your plan of the
of the sense that the plan plan on the Dolphins
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actually at well, you know, given that as you said,
there's there's no tas, there has not been a rookie
mini camp. Everything's been mental reps um. Uh. You know,
if there's ever a time that rookies get off to
a slower start, this is the season that it's going
to happen. Um. And you know there but there was
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also time I theorized that, hey, maybe the Bengals will
hang on to Andy Dalton because you don't want to
just throw Joe Burrow in after not having you know,
a passing program or full you know, a full um
squad mini camp or you know, getting someone in and
and starting in on the weight training and all the
different things in the building. And you know, do I
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think that the Dolphins, and you know, I think the
Chargers would love Justin Herbert to sign start week one.
I'm sure the Bengals are psyched about Joe Burrow starting
week one, and all these teams other than maybe the
you know, the Packers, in Jordan's love, would love their
first round quarterbacks to show that, hey, we're ready to
go right away. Um, I don't know. It's hard to
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say without you know, knowing what training camp is gonna
look like, knowing when it's going to happen, and then
you know, realistically seeing these guys on the field. And
I don't mean just the quarterbacks, you mean they're offensive lines.
Teams can have the best laid plans, but the second
you get in and you start to have um training
camps and you say, hey, you know, offensive line is
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not chilling the way that that we would expect it to.
And oh, you know what too, as a lefty and
our right tackle, you know what, he's struggling a little bit.
So we don't want to just throw do in and
and have him running for his life right off the bat.
Let's make sure that the offensive line where it needs
to be. Offensive line is where it needs to be.
It's it's early to proclaim any of these plans because
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and and it's hard for me. I'm stunned that anybody
out there is proclaiming this is what a team wants
to do, because right now, when I talk the teams.
They go, Hey, what do you think we're gonna have
like training camp? Do you see? Are we going to
start in time? Like? What do you hear? I'm like,
you're not even talking about their teams. They're saying, you know,
when the hell are we going to actually get on
a field with guy? Yeah, which which is my Which
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is my sense as well. Let me ask you that question,
when do you think they actually allowed teams to get together? Well, I,
you know, I reported I the NFL would like to
get um coaches back into the building next week, and
what I had heard was conservatively the end of the
week that they had hoped to get you know, head
coaches back into their buildings. And then at that point
a conversation could take place about whether or not it
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was possible and feasible to have to squeeze in something
with players before what would be the break. And you know,
that led to me and J. C. Treader, who was
the union president of Brown's offensive lineman, you know, kind
of going at it on Twitter about the fact that
there's this cap in place on the virtual offseason program
and all these things. But you know, I would see
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this the fan. They have to understand that the NFL
right now is it is this entire offseason has not
been like, hey, here's what we think the third move
is going to be. They are struggling just to get
let's just get this one thing done and then when
we get this one thing done, then we'll move on
to the next thing. And that and that was the
last one thing was let's just get buildings open so
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we can get any employees back into NFL buildings. And
then the next one is, let's see if we can
get Gavin Newsome. If we get Gavin Newsom to say,
you know what, you want to get coaches in, start
to talk about having players in there, um, if we
can get him to agree to that, and and this
sort of the soft opening of sports programs the first
week of June. We can go to other state governments
that are being you know that, that have us in
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the fourth phase of their opening and say, hey, look
at California. Look at Gavin Newsome. He's starting us offten
his stance, and this we think we have the protocols
in place to at least get coaches in and then
start to think about other things I think the league
would like and coaches would like to not have Tom
Brady on a field somewhere in the middle of Tampa
with guys practicing, or you know, coaches in Baltimore would
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love it if Lamar Jackson didn't have to hold his
own practices. If they see guys doing this, they're sitting
there going. Can't we figure out a way to have
guys voluntarily coming and do that in our building? Maybe
we call it a volunteering mini camp. We figure out
what the what to call it. But why we why
do we have guys out, you know, in parks or
on other fields setting this up on their own when
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we have the infrastructure to do this safely with them
and with coaches there. So what are we doing here? Yeah,
I don't know. It's it's it is fascinating that they can't.
It's like, you know, and and they've been able to
have guys that are doing rehab going to the facilities
anyway the entire time. So it's and and here's my
my thinking, Charles Charles Robinson joining us from Yahoo Sports.
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It would be one thing if everyone was under quarantine
right and it was less safe to come out and
go to the facilities and bring whatever germs potentially COVID
into the building. The problem is that no one's in
that bubble anymore right now. Now people are out and about.
And I'm not saying that we need to forget about
social distancing or completely disregard kind of the slow rollout,
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but there's a reality to you're not in the bubble
at home. You're actually probably safer at a facility. And
oh yeah, by the way, you can get checked every
day when your facility, and if you do get sick,
you can get treated much more easily then if you're
at home. And if you're working, you're not gonna know
if you're running a fever. If you're working out in
the football field, you have no idea. You just think
you're hot and sweaty, right, And I think people have
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to understand too that for the NFL, there's some value
to and again I'll keep using this phrase sort of
soft opening, there's this value too. Hey, let's let's kind
of see in practice some of these protocols we think
we're gonna have. Maybe let's try this out and we'll
tell players like Tom Brady and some of these other
quarterbacks that are having workouts, Hey, if you want to
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do this, we're not going to force you to come
in here, because you know where we everything we do,
we have to have the union sign off on it anyway.
And the last thing we want to do, you know,
given where we stand in health and safety, is put
pressure on players to come in. So we're gonna say,
if you want to have workouts with wide receivers, come
on in. You know, let's figure out a way for
you to come in. And it gives teams the opportunity
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to go, Okay, how realistic is this to bring guys in,
as you said, do the checks, you know, look at
the protocols that they have in place now and see
how those work. And again, if this happens at the
end of June, that's kind of the time frame. I
think some teams would like to see that happen. And
then it gives them actual information to use between the
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break and actually opening a training camp. And guess what
if mandatory and everybody's got to come in and you've
got to have all the players and all the staffers
and the medical you know, the trainers and blah blah blah,
you actually have a little bit of information to think
about because you try to pull off maybe a smaller
sample group late in June, and it's going to help
you when July comes and you got to do the
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full gelata and you don't know what that's gonna look like.
Charles Robinson joining US Yahoo Sports, Doug Gotli show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, yeah, there's a lot of
there's a lot of discussion about Cam Newton, yet no seeming,
no seeming interest in Cam Newton. What's your sense on
what the future holds for the former m d P.
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I think he's gonna wait. I think he's gonna wait,
and he's gonna, you know, see if there is an
opportunity that arises once teams, you know, convene, because there
is no opportunity there for him now, there's no there's
no I think the opportunity he would have liked to
have seen by now is a team that would say, okay,
you know, once, once we can look at you medically,
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all right, we're gonna take a look at you know
what what the Panthers, the NFL has already mandated the
Panthers exposed to us and then you know, we're we're
gonna look at you medically, and you're gonna come in
and if we're bringing you in the implication is we're
giving me the opportunity to compete with with someone first
starting job because you're bringing in Cam Newton right now.
I mean, that's that's honestly the implication. Unless it's gonna
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be a Jameis Winston. You're making the veteran minimum kind
of deal and it's a one year deal, and the
staff is coming out going you are a backup, and
and they can do that because they have Drew Brees
and no one's questioning whether or not Jameis Winston's gonna
fight with Drew Brees. You know. Um, that hasn't presented
itself to Cam and so I think now he's in
a phase of all right, well, I'm gonna keep working out.
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I'm gonna get myself where I need to be, and
then I'm gonna hope that a team once training camp starts,
goes you know what a front office, you know, someone
in the front office or the coaching staff, because you know,
I'm not entirely happy where a quarterback situation is or
the backup we brought in to compete. Um, you know,
we're not happy with that guy. Something's not right here.
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We feel like we gotta strengthen this situation, or maybe
a starter falters or someone gets hurt. I'll at Teddy
Bridgewater when they ship Sam Bradford. The Eagle ship Sam
Bradford there. So he's just got to buy this time
at this point because that starting job is not available
to him, and I think right now the only way
a starting job or even a backup job was starting
potential becomes available by circumstances. This is Baker Mayfield on
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the NFL Network talking about the Browns new attitude. I
have a different approach to this year. Everybody that has
been interviewed in our team is kind of hit the
nail on the head over and over about you know,
it's just time to work. It's time to do our
things that are talking about it. So this is the
first media thing I've done just because there's no need
to be talking about it. It's just time to go
do it. And right now it's you know, kind of
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moving in silence, which is fun with me. That's how
I used to do it before getting on a bigger stage.
So I'm happy to get back to those roots, like
I said earlier, get back to the fundamentals to where
I can accomplish the goals when the season comes around.
Does that? Uh? I guess. I like, like anybody can
say it, let's see what happens when you actually play football,
you know. And I also think it's a challenge, like
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the whole Kevin Stefanski thing, Like I get it, but
it wasn't stuff on digs. He didn't like the system
last year. You mean to tell me those those two
big wide receivers are gonna be three old with them
running the ball first, second, and possibly third down, Like, yeah,
I don't, I don't know, um, but I think my
biggest question, Charles, is isn't that getting away from who
Baker Mayfield is? Right? Like? This is you know, like
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that's who he is. Like he kind of just roll
with it because the the cocky you know he's He's
like like I've got a Tom Cruise kind of effect
to it, right like right right where he's just Tom
Cruise in every character he's ever played. Is the cocky pilot,
cocky ninja guy, cocky lawyer, whatever. Like that's who Baker
Mayfield is. Will that take away some of his strength
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as a player? Yeah, I you know, I think what's
interesting about this is this is what when you talk
to people inside the Browns like I've heard this for
two months now. I mean going going all the way
back to the Combine when that regime change over occurred
and they brought in new, new, you know, coaches and
the front office was revamped. When I talked to people there,
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they're like just wait, They're like just wait. They're really
excited about Baker and I so what's why, Why are
you so excited? And what I heard was he feels humbled,
like he felt like last year was he was not himself.
He felt like, um, he made a lot of mistakes,
and and that there was a lot going around on
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around Baker Mayfield. I mean not only within the franchise,
his personal life, the coaching staff. I mean there was
it was a rough year from Baker Mayfield and and
from what I was told when when everybody engaged with
with Baker when they first got in the door, the
whole new staff and everything, Baker's attitude was it's I
gotta turn the volume down, like I need to go
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back to you know what I do, fund what you
know I do fundamentally. When people questioned me, when you
go back in my career and you look at points
where I was really not. The first thing that I
focused on was making sure I was doing what I
needed to do as a football player to make myself
the best player I could possibly be. Not commercials, not
talking to the media, not getting into Twitter beasts with
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Colin Coward or whoever else. You know, I I went
out to be a great, you know, football player, And
they were thrilled. Like the people I talked to with
the Browns are like, they expect him to have a
really big year this year, and they feel like he
is as focused and dialed in as he's been since
since he got there, including his rookie season. So when
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this came out and he said this, I was like, Okay,
this is everything I've been hearing. This is him verbalizing
apparently what he had already told the coaching staff in
the front office, which is I'm I'm turning the volume
down on me getting involved in all this other stuff
that you know, he felt like did impact him negatively
last year. And and again I can't underscore he had
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a lot of stuff going on in his life, Like
this was a guy that that I don't think everybody
knows the full scope of everything that was going on
in the Baker Mayfield bubble, but it was a lot,
and I think he's trying to dial that back and
focus on I think in his mind realizing this is
of what it means to be a professional now, Like
I can get away with so much in the past
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up to a certain point, but you know, for me
to be a professional and succeed, there's certain elements of
myself I have to now learn. The Governor Charles Robinson
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
the Dad thing has been feels like a non story story, right,
Like we just we want to know how much Dallas
is going to overpay him. Again, It's kind of what
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it feels like to me. They don't have to they
got him on a franchise tag any sense of of
if they get this thing done by July fifteen. I
keep telling people the same thing. I'm like, you know,
start watching July one, and I really think start watching
July eight. Like, to me, I don't think they're still
arguing the same thing. The fourth year versus the fifth
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year and how that impacts the salary that Dak Prescott
would ultimately get the average per year, and then the
guaranteed money in the structure. It's the two sides of
looking at it significantly differently. DAX people want the fourth year.
The Cowboys want the fifth year, and that's what's kind
of throwing these numbers out of whack. Well, this is
the same conversation they were having last summer. It's the
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same conversation they were having in September when Jerry Jones
was telling everybody, I think we're close, We're gonna get done.
I have all this optimism. And then Dak played a
couple of games and the Cowboys were like, hey, we're
gonna get this done. And DAX people said, guess what.
The price went up. You know, the last price we
talked about, the last number we talked about with you.
We want more now because now he's gone out in
the field, he's played well. You continue to hand him
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leverage and he's going to continue to use it. You know.
It's so it's just the same. This is the same argument.
I kind of made a joke that we've put this
thing in a vitamix and we keep like, you know,
just blending it up and then pouring it out over
and over again and reserving it. Um you know, I
it's someone's got a budge here. And I think the
one thing that the Cowboys have going for them is
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everybody across the NFL, and I think even agents now
know that next year could be a flat soury cap,
like that's how they're going to deal with the potential
lost revenue. And it's unlikely the capital roll back, but
it very very likely could be. It doesn't go up,
it's the same salary cap, and that means that money
is going to get drawn back a little bit moving forward.
So maybe that makes it feel, you know, like the
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one on the table for Doc right now looks a
little bit better, and you know that could help the cowbus.
I still think it gets done, but I'll say this,
if it does not get done, if he plays this
year in the franchise tag, that guy will go through
all the tags, he'll tag it out, just like Kirk Cousins,
and he will go to free agency. I think this
is the last time to get the long term deal done.
I think if it doesn't get done now it's over. Wow.
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That's that would be and that would be fascinating. Charles
Robbins and Falm on Twitter at Charles Robins and check
out his Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. It's a good one. Charles,
thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having.
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John Palm, Rosy JP. Did I did I sum it up?
Blowing up? Or did I miss something? Well? Dog, good afternoon.
I think that's a pretty uh fair representation of what
has been said to this point in time, and now
it's a matter of over the next uh four to
five days. I believe if there is a middle ground
to be found, I am still optimistic that there is.
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I believe that one really important distinction here is that
the union had come out basically saying a week or
so ago reportedly that they were not going to be
supportive of the notion of a revenue sharing situation UH
and notably, Baseball's proposal did not include that. Baseball's proposal
this week did include UH salary rollbacks that Baseball says
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are attributable to the fact that there's not an expectation
of any fans being in the stands at this point
in time, and that was Baseball's first offer, and now
it's it's the second offer obviously from the union is
coming here at the end of the week. I still
believe Dog there is room to comprom eyes. Whether it's
by putting some of that those earnings into escrow or
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having some of the payments be deferred. There are ways
to make the mathematics work, even though at this point
in time, as you point out publicly, at least UH,
the sides appear to be in very different places. Um,
I don't really understand baseball players need to make this
public to they do realize they're not winning any public
sentiment right Well, I think that in general, First of all,
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it's a difficult time for any large business to be
having negotiating and bargaining occur in the public forum. I
think we all understand the optics of that are are
are very difficult. I think that they are trying to
trying to represent their side, just as MLB has has
maybe at different times as well. I really think it's important.
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While the conversation is obviously difficult to have in the
midst of the pandemic about UH, the certainly sums of
money this large. I would say that in general, I'm
gonna try my best to reserve judgment on on everything
until we get to a spot where, hopefully next week
there's an agreement or not. I think that the critical
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time is not today. The critical time is next week,
because next week is when MLB in the union. But
I really have to have an agreement in place that
that allows them to get the season going by July,
which is important because that would hopefully allow there to
be enough games where the players make closer to the
money that they were expecting to make, and MLB is
able to get the postseason in in time uh to
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hopefully avoid the second spike in cases in the fall.
So that's that is where I think the overall conversation lies.
And I think it's important to as as hard as
it is right now, Doug, for us to be patient
and let that process go forward as as unseemly as
it may be right now, before we really make that
judgment sometime next week. John palm Rossi joining us in
the Doug Gatlet Show on Fox Sports Trait. You talked
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about the expanded schedule. They want to play a hundred games.
Does that really make up for the lost revenue of
having fans in the stands. No, not in total, it
would not. And I think that's where I think MLB
is very correct in saying that listen, um, the revenue
is gone uh for a full season now, of course,
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and that even speaks to the the interim issues of
if you're only gonna be broadcasting a certain number of
games as opposed to what the overall season would be.
So I think MLB has done, I think a very
fair job of reflecting that revenue reality in in their
offer to the players. And again it was the first offer.
I would expect there will still be some back and
forth here in the coming days, but MLB I think
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it is very fairly representing the fact that without of
the revenues, the overall pay out of of the salaries
to players has to be different and even dramatically reduced
from what it should have been in spring training if
there had been fans in the stands. I think that's
one of the key distinctions here, Doug, is that when
there was the interim agreement reached at the end of March,
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it was in in the agreement at least UH. The
understandings from the around it was that there would have
to be a second conversation if by the time play
began again, there would still not be fans in the stands.
And that's where we are right now. There's not really
an understanding of really having fans in stands at any
point in time this season, so that the economics have
to be reflected in that, and I think that MLB
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is doing the best they can under the circumstances to
have that reality part of the new agreement. Dou gotlip
show here on Fox Sports Radio. I don't know if
you saw this. Passengers had a tweet Jeff passed and
covers Major League Baseball. Another tremendous inside across baseball. Hundreds
of minor league players were cut today and lost their job,
sources tell ESPN. Hundreds more will be released over the
next week. In the end, upward of one thousand players
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could see their baseball careers, and the minor leagues have
simply been devastated. Like this is the part no one's talking.
I under I fully understand. If you're set to make
you know ten million dollars and they say, all right,
this year you're gonna make you know, You're gonna agree
you're gonna make seven, You're like, Man, then all of
a sudden like no, no no, no, I actually you're gonna
make five. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But this is you talked
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about active guy, like we've never Baseball's minor leagues were
already in bad shape. There there we are. There was
already questions about kind of the future. And I'm not
sure there's the true perception of just how bad it
is and just how inexpensive potential replacements are even to
the star players. Correct. And that to me, Doug, and
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you consider the overall economics of this, I am much
more confident sure of what the major league structure will
look like than I am the minor league because of
exactly what you're talking about. The major league component, you
can still make money based on the fact that games
will be on TV. That's not the case with with
the minor leagues. And I think that that's where the
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tremendous uncertainty of the moment is really coming into view.
And and Jeff's reporting I think puts a lot of
in a perspective. There's a lot of careers, a lot
of dreams that that will end because basically, the the
industry of of the minor leagues, at least the player
development infrastructure of a lot of teams is shrinking. And
it's shrinking because at the moment, the the the large
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scale model of that of that part of baseball and
intrinsically involves fans in the stands in large numbers, in
in small towns, UH in a small to medium sized
cities around our country and then around North America, and
until it's safe to do that um large from public
health perspective, it really is difficult to see minor league
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baseball as a as a viable economic uh entity coming
back in large numbers. And now that certainly we could
still see and probably will still see this year, minor
league players staying ready, likely in a connection to the
major league camp. Maybe they're just gonna be playing inter
squad games based either at the spring training site or
or with the major league club. But Doug that to
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your point into Jeff's reporting, it's it's simply not going
to be anything like it was is at that level
of baseball UM for the for seable future. And that's
somebody that covered the minor leagues as a young reporter,
loved the minor leagues. It really is is a difficult
thing to take and to realize that that's part of
the consequences what we're going through right now. John Palmer
Rossi joining us in the Doug out Lips Show on
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Fox Sports Tradeo that said, I do think eventually this
deal gets done right and when it gets done, they're
gonna play in stadiums, They're gonna do the bubble thing.
What do you think ultimately, I mean, obviously looks like
universal Universal d H stick. What do you think happens.
I think Douget's gonna be that that arrangement of a
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compressed schedule where you're staying in your geographic third of
the country. Uh. From an inter league standpoint, um so
n L West plays the a L West and certainly
a lot of games within your division to limit the
amount of very distant travel. Universal d H Yes, and
the expanded playoff structure to me is exciting because that
you would have instead of five playoff teams in each league,
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you would have seven. That's more revenue. And also, I think,
really importantly, Doug, if there's a way to get this
as part of the long term plan for the game
in the midst of all the things being discussed right now.
If that change is made permanent, that has got to
be looked upon as a real win for the union too,
because when you've got two additional playoff spots and they're
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not just one game, it's actually a three game series.
At the very least, you're gonna have more teams that
have been designing their payroll and they're spending based on
algorithms and postseason odds. Your chance of making the playoffs
now goes up significantly of having a three game series.
When you're able to expand the playoffs from five teams
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to seven in each league, that is a huge deal.
And so if MLB and the Union can find a
way to agree on this, the Union certainly would sign
up for this. I think right now that that part
of it with would expanded playoffs, and that has a chance,
DOUG to really manifestly affect the way the teams spend
their money for years to come because their odds of
making the playoffs will be better, and that to me,
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has been driving a lot of the depression and spending
that that players have have not liked in recent years
has been because of that calculation of your playoff odds.
The better your odds the more you spend. We already
saw them starting to change with the reds and the
white soxes past winter, and I am hopeful, Doug that
we're gonna see that resume in the years to come,
maybe not this coming winner, but certainly in the in
the the winners after that, as the industry returns more
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to his normal operation. John palm ROSSI joining us NHL wise,
I'm here in Vegas is done and Edmonton is the
possible other one is that what you're hearing, Uh, not
not quite yet in terms of having things narrowed down
that far. I do think the unique thing about this,
Doug is going to be and while Vegas said, I
think it has a lot to a lot to say
for itself. I think also maybe you would have one
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of the the sites in the eastern half of the
country or North America to help logistically to balance things out.
The one thing about having the one of the hubs
in Canada one hub in the US is some of
the cross border travel eventually down the line two players
Stanley Cup final could become a little little problematic. So
I really think it makes sense to either be all
in Canada or all in the US from where I sit,
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but I think from the UH the league is working
through a lot of different logistics there, and they've got
a lot of great host cities possibly to consider in
the eastern half, it would be likely Columbus or Toronto,
but we'll see. But I think Vegas, with all the
hotels they're doug. I think that's a really good point
that you make about UH, the infrastructure and the ability
to host a lot of people in one very small area.
I think in Vegas they've really got a lot on
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their favor. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Vegas is opening
up next week June four. There'll be some good parties. Obviously,
they're gonna they're gonna have crowd police to check in temperatures.
Will see how that goes. So they'll have they'll be
up and running before the NHL players can get there,
and uh we we we'll see. Obviously they've been just
dying in terms of losing money. But all the flights
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starting to crank up and get back to Vegas. We'll
see if that's where the NHL gets JP awesome awesome stuff. Um,
last thing, let's go back to baseball. How much of
this is? How much of the Boors email affects Boors
business in the future. Well, certainly, Scott has so many
high profile clients, and he's got so many guys that
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signed mega deals just this winter, Garret Cole, Anthony Rendon,
uh So, I think Scott in in so many ways,
is a brand unto himself and uh and and the
notion of Scott taking a prominent role in terms of
trying to guide his players and his clients and influencing
uh their thought process, their thought process and their ability
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to be suppokes people for his his position is not
surprising to me as someone who's covered the game for
a long time. I think Scott has uh, Scott really
have not changed much in the past, Doug, and I
think that the current moment will not really change too
much of who he is in the future. He's a
pretty consistent person in terms of how he interacts with
with the world and with baseball, and I would expect
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that in the midst of the rather contentious movement right now,
whatever the outcome is here, I still think a year
or two from now he's going to have high profile
clients and probably still represent them and and get some
pretty big deals for them. Here in the future too.
John Palmeros c JP, awesome insight. Thanks so much, man.
Doug always thought the conversation with my friend to look
forward to the next one. Hopefully we've got baseball to
talk about back on the field here in the next
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couple of weeks.
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of the Doug got Leave Show on Fox Sports Radio.
But let's start with Major League Baseball because the the
the I'm gonna go with breaking story of the day,
I'm gonna go with breaking story of the day is
it's not that baseball Baseball's players and um excuse me,
(00:45):
baseball players and they're uh owners are at it an
impast that's different from any other time when they are
at an impass. But it's the it's what the players
are doing which is really interesting and I think in
many ways disruptive. So here's what happened. And look, I
(01:08):
actually I don't know if there's anybody who is, was,
or can be determined to be better in the sport
than Max Scherzer. Right like Max Serzer has won a
cy Young in both leagues. Max Scherzer bet on himself. Remember,
he's offered a contract to stay with the Tigers. Instead
he turned it down, had a great year and signed
(01:30):
a huge deal with Washington Nationals, and then, of course
this year the Washington Nationals finally broke through and won
a World Series. So, in no way, in no way
is this to impugne the credibility of Max Scherzer. I
think Scherzer is awesome. But what he's doing, well, like, look,
he's basically doing his agents work and oh yeah, by
(01:53):
the way, he's doing something that you just can't do
at this point in time. Real unemployment, Okay, real unemployment
is like one in four Americans, American adults not working.
Think about that for a second. One in four Americans
(02:19):
not working. So look, I understand when you're set to
make a crazy amount of money and somebody says, hey,
we need you to take a little bit less, and
you're like, all right, I don't want to do it,
but I'll do it. And then you get really close
to come back and they're like, you know what, we
need to have some more money back. This is what
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Max Scherzer tweeted out yesterday after discussing the latest developments
with the rest of the players, there's no reason to
engage with MLB in any further compensation reductions. We have
previously negotiated a pay cut in the in the version
of approriated salaries, and there's no justification to accept a
second pay cut based upon the current information the union
has received. I'm glad to hear other players voicing the
(03:03):
same viewpoint and believe MLB's economic strategy would completely change
if all documentation were to be made public information now now,
some of this is is doing the devil's work right
because Scott Boris. There's an email to Scott that Scott
Boars says, don't bail out MLB owners. Scott Boars wants
(03:23):
his clients to be united. In his email, he said, remember,
games cannot be played without you. Players should not agree
to further pay cuts to bail out the owners. Let
the owners show some of their record revenues and profits
from past several years and pay you the probity of
salaries you agreed to accept, and let them borrow against
the assets they created from the use of these profits
(03:45):
players generated. Look, this is a very very normal employee argument, right,
A normal employee argument. Hey, We had a record year
last year, and I didn't get any sort of record bonus.
I didn't get any sort of Hey, you made a
bunch of money. I didn't get anything off the top.
(04:08):
So when things go bad, why do I have to
take an even bigger hair haircut? That's not right. Well,
there's a couple of things that go with it. First,
life's not fair, right, wake up every morning with the
thought in your mind, life is not fair. No one
owes me anything. Okay, let's go to work. The second
(04:30):
thing is owners own You know I don't I this
is a NBA players make the mistake. And part of
this is how Adam Silver has worded it in in partnership.
It's not a partnership. It's not a partnership. You when
you own a franchise and you own the rights to
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the players, you may not like the word owner, and
you may think it signifies something else. It doesn't. You're
the owner. It's it's on you if it goes under.
That's those are every dollar you loses, your money yours
you had to lay out. I mean, if you think
about it, and look, there's a mix in terms of
Major League Baseball and NBA. There are a couple of
mom and pops. Left right, The Mets are still a
(05:12):
mom and pop. The Lakers are a mom and pop.
But most of these people made a billion dollars elsewhere,
and this is something that they just wanted to do. Yeah,
they want to make some money with it. They'd like that.
They just love the sport and they love the idea
of ideas of sports, and they have they But you
make all that money your entire professional life and you
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spend it. Why do I have to lose money on it?
Why do I have to take some sort of massive haircut.
If you didn't like the deal, if you weren't getting
cut in on the action when they were going when
you know everything was going up, well that's on you.
That's part of the that's part of the deal that
the Players Association negotiate. And it's a bad one and
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no one would argue it. But by the way, welcome
to the American economy. Welcome to the American economy. And
you can sit here and go you know, um, I'm
a capitalist. No, you're you're not okay in pure capitalism,
pure capitalism, not what we have here, pure capitalism. You
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you probably wouldn't have a union, right, and you also,
if you weren't making money, people would cut bait. This
is we don't live in a purely capitalistic society. We don't.
The American economy works this way though. If you own
a franchise, it's no different from the franchise e you
(06:40):
know with wherever you eat, Like you go to any
sort of fast food or fast casual place, that franchise
e they a loud, laid down a bunch of money,
and you may think, well, hold on, I'm a manager
and we've been making record setting profits, Like, all right,
did you negotiating that that in your deal? You didn't? Sorry,
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you know, yea our target was to make a hundred
thousand dollars in the month of January, and we made
a hundred fifty and I didn't see a penny of it. Well,
that's on you. If you didn't put the markers in
your contract, that's on you. Well, we just won't play.
Then guess what somebody will. And what you also have
to keep in mind is all of the losses that
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you will sustain. Look, the owners will sustain massive losses
and you might lose a couple of them. There might
be a couple of like, you can't do it, you
can't do it anymore. But they pale in comparison to
the players losses because this is their primary and many
only source of income. It is that unfair. Of course
(07:48):
it's unfair, you know, of course you'd like the owners
to go like, look, let's just navigate the losses and
you know, see how bad it is when it as
it goes. But this, hey, open the books. They're not
opening the books. There isn't a business on earth that
would open the books to you know, to their workers.
(08:08):
Nobody's doing that. That's just stupid. That that's that is
really as is obvious pr and bad pr advice from
Scott Borris. Walk into your boss's office and say, listen, boss,
like you know, as I know, you want everybody to
take a tempercent haircut, but I'd really like to see
the numbers for everybody this month maybe like excuse me,
(08:29):
excuse me, why don't you take the rest of the
month off, and then maybe next month off as well,
and then the month after that and after that after
that for that, Like this doesn't the idea. I look,
make sure you're a great picture, great right, and if
you want to believe you're worth every penny. That's cool.
That's cool because there are a few people on earth
(08:51):
who have been able to do what you can do
with the baseball. But I mean, look, if you don't
come back, it's not gonna change. It's actually you say, hey,
I'm not playing. Okay, there's a bunch of minor leaguers
that aren't gonna make any money at all this year. None, zero,
zero income. I think those guys want to grab grab
(09:13):
the old horse hide and throw it around. What do
you think they're They're not as good as you, But
you know what they'll do. They put on the cap,
they run out there, they'll do their best and people
will watch. Do you know why? Because there's nothing else
on and you won't get your year of service, you
won't get your money. You you know, I don't. I
(09:34):
don't really understand the argument. Again, I'm not saying it's fair,
I'm not saying it's right. I will tell you that
negotiating in public and trying to get the owners to
open their books is just dumb. Why do I have
to open my books for the previous couple of years.
That has nothing to do with the pandemic. Because the
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pandemic affects so many more people. And again, I'm not
even necessarily being critical of Scott Boris because his soul
job is to get his players paid as much as
humanly possible. That's it. That's his only job is to
watch out for their best interest. But in terms of
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being a guardian of the sport of the business, you know,
I'm just I'm not defending the owners. I'm just being
real with you, Like you can have all these fake
conversations you want about yes, stick it to the owners
and yeah, like okay, have fun with that, you know.
(10:39):
I mean, look, this is this is what we do.
We we get this public sentiment riled up. And yeah,
college sports just moneymaking and they all they do is
use players, Like all right, how many basketball players can
you name that play college basketball last year? You can't?
You know why because you actually need that to make
a name for yourself. Sorry, this way goes. Do you
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get a college education to get that college experience be
around people your age? Again, owners own, and it doesn't
mean that they're they have the right to be abusive
and to get something for nothing. But the idea that
the situation the players running into like oh, we'll just
play more games. Like, no, dude, you don't get it.
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There's an amount of revenue that we're never going to
be able to attain because we don't have fans in
the stands. Sure we can play some more games. That
will help some and they will help with these contracts
for the rs N s and maybe we can generate
some more money, but there's also more cost with it, right, Like,
are your calculation is all off? Well, it's it's a
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pro raded salary. Yeah, pro rade salary based upon a
hunter games is more money. Instead of taking big a
bigger haircut, you're actually trying to take less of a haircut. Like, no,
that's not where we are. You're not getting the message
of how bad this is. Here's the message. One in
four Americans. One in four Americans are not working. They
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don't have jobs, they don't have money to spend, and
there's a good chance that at some point they won't
have the money to spend on either the cable fees
or whatever however you're broadcasting game. As of now, most
most people I know, there's core most over ninety million
people still have the full set of cable in their
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in their house. Your games, right, you still have that
that chance, but you're dealing with a completely unrealistic point
of view. If you put in any part of your conversation,
you know, if they just open up their books to
previous years, they're not They're not. Do you know why?
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Because life's not fair and nobody owes you anything. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I
love the stuff come out of Cleveland. Right. This is
Baker Mayfield in the NFL Network talking about his new
approach to the two thousand twenty season. I have a
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different approach to this year. Everybody that has been interviewed
in our team is kind of hit the nail on
the head over and over about you know, it's just
time to work. It's time to do our thing instead
of talking about it. So this is the first media
thing I've done just because there's no need to be
talking about it. It's just time to go do it.
And right now, it's you know, kind of moving in silence,
which is fun with me. That's how I used to
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do it before getting on a bigger stage. So I'm
happy to get back to those roots. Like I said earlier,
get back to the fundamentals to where I can accomplish
the goals. When the season comes around, it does it
look it, It does feel like, it does feel like
they are really, really really trying, really trying to um
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to to be the team that you know was what's
the Theodore Roosevelt walk quietly carry a big stick, which
is great and probably what they always should have done.
You know, we warned you of it last year. And
this is something that that Tampa is going to have
to deal with. Is is a completely different level of
intensity preparation. What when you come in as the hunt,
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did not the hunter, right when you come in as
a hunt did not the hunter. So I I think
of this, I think it's great, But I also think
that to anyone who says, well, this is a big
year for him, yeah, well, first of all, any year
in the NFL is a really big year. But the
way it works in sporting, all sports, but the way
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it works, especially in UM in sports is the coach
is usually the first to go, and then the gentle
manager president. Sometimes they survive all of it, sometimes they
do not. And then the players go. The coach always
goes first, because there is the the sense, even though
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I don't actually believe it's accurate, it that it's easier
to find another coach than it is to find another
great player. I don't believe that's true, but I do
believe that that this is the progression. Coach goes first,
and if a general manager goes second. Boy, brother, you
better if you're a player, you better bring it. And
if the boss sitting there going like, wait, so you're
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not winning and you're causing a distraction? What am I?
What am I missing here? And you cost a lot
of money? All of that is worth it if you're winning,
None of it is worth it if you're not the
biggest question I have for Baker Mayfield is this. You
know Baker can say this is who I always used
to be. I would, you know, not make comments. I
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would just go play or whatever like That's not really
who Baker has always been. Baker has always been brash.
He has always been the guy who's unafraid. That's why
he had the in factor. Remember John Dorsey, who drafted him,
said he's Brett Farve. That's what they meant, don't care,
and so the question is are you stripping away the
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core of who he is? And some players are only
good when they're there themselves and they're brash and they're
outlandish and they don't care. The second you start to
care is the second you start to change who you are,
and you change who you are, well, that can be
a really dicey proposition because then you're kind of lost.
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(16:25):
Let's worker in Charles Robinson. He covers the NFL for
y'ah who Sports Fall on Twitter at Charles Robinson. Check
out the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. We were talking about
two of about five minutes ago. Mike Freeman's talked to
a bunch of coaches and he's like, look, the expectations
is from the start week one. I don't see it.
I don't get it. You got Fitzpatrick's fine. You know,
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he's taken a seat for people before to us. Coming
off a major injury as well as some other more
minor injuries. You're kind of forming a new team. What's
your sense of the Dolphins and their plans? Granted? We're
still in May and we haven't we don't have a
t S. We don't know when they're all going to
get back together. But what what's your plan of the
of the sense that the plan plan on the Dolphins
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actually at well, you know, given that as you said,
there's there's no tas, there has not been a rookie
mini camp. Everything's been mental reps um. Uh. You know,
if there's ever a time that rookies get off to
a slower start, this is the season that it's going
to happen. Um. And you know there but there was
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also time I theorized that, hey, maybe the Bengals will
hang on to Andy Dalton because you don't want to
just throw Joe Burrow in after not having you know,
a passing program or full you know, a full um
squad mini camp or you know, getting someone in and
and starting in on the weight training and all the
different things in the building. And you know, do I
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think that the Dolphins, and you know, I think the
Chargers would love Justin Herbert to sign start week one.
I'm sure the Bengals are psyched about Joe Burrow starting
week one, and all these teams other than maybe the
you know, the Packers, in Jordan's love, would love their
first round quarterbacks to show that, hey, we're ready to
go right away. Um, I don't know. It's hard to
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say without you know, knowing what training camp is gonna
look like, knowing when it's going to happen, and then
you know, realistically seeing these guys on the field. And
I don't mean just the quarterbacks, you mean they're offensive lines.
Teams can have the best laid plans, but the second
you get in and you start to have um training
camps and you say, hey, you know, offensive line is
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not chilling the way that that we would expect it to.
And oh, you know what too, as a lefty and
our right tackle, you know what, he's struggling a little bit.
So we don't want to just throw do in and
and have him running for his life right off the bat.
Let's make sure that the offensive line where it needs
to be. Offensive line is where it needs to be.
It's it's early to proclaim any of these plans because
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and and it's hard for me. I'm stunned that anybody
out there is proclaiming this is what a team wants
to do, because right now, when I talk the teams.
They go, Hey, what do you think we're gonna have
like training camp? Do you see? Are we going to
start in time? Like? What do you hear? I'm like,
you're not even talking about their teams. They're saying, you know,
when the hell are we going to actually get on
a field with guy? Yeah, which which is my Which
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is my sense as well. Let me ask you that question,
when do you think they actually allowed teams to get together? Well, I,
you know, I reported I the NFL would like to
get um coaches back into the building next week, and
what I had heard was conservatively the end of the
week that they had hoped to get you know, head
coaches back into their buildings. And then at that point
a conversation could take place about whether or not it
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was possible and feasible to have to squeeze in something
with players before what would be the break. And you know,
that led to me and J. C. Treader, who was
the union president of Brown's offensive lineman, you know, kind
of going at it on Twitter about the fact that
there's this cap in place on the virtual offseason program
and all these things. But you know, I would see
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this the fan. They have to understand that the NFL
right now is it is this entire offseason has not
been like, hey, here's what we think the third move
is going to be. They are struggling just to get
let's just get this one thing done and then when
we get this one thing done, then we'll move on
to the next thing. And that and that was the
last one thing was let's just get buildings open so
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we can get any employees back into NFL buildings. And
then the next one is, let's see if we can
get Gavin Newsome. If we get Gavin Newsom to say,
you know what, you want to get coaches in, start
to talk about having players in there, um, if we
can get him to agree to that, and and this
sort of the soft opening of sports programs the first
week of June. We can go to other state governments
that are being you know that, that have us in
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the fourth phase of their opening and say, hey, look
at California. Look at Gavin Newsome. He's starting us offten
his stance, and this we think we have the protocols
in place to at least get coaches in and then
start to think about other things I think the league
would like and coaches would like to not have Tom
Brady on a field somewhere in the middle of Tampa
with guys practicing, or you know, coaches in Baltimore would
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love it if Lamar Jackson didn't have to hold his
own practices. If they see guys doing this, they're sitting
there going. Can't we figure out a way to have
guys voluntarily coming and do that in our building? Maybe
we call it a volunteering mini camp. We figure out
what the what to call it. But why we why
do we have guys out, you know, in parks or
on other fields setting this up on their own when
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we have the infrastructure to do this safely with them
and with coaches there. So what are we doing here? Yeah,
I don't know. It's it's it is fascinating that they can't.
It's like, you know, and and they've been able to
have guys that are doing rehab going to the facilities
anyway the entire time. So it's and and here's my
my thinking, Charles Charles Robinson joining us from Yahoo Sports.
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It would be one thing if everyone was under quarantine
right and it was less safe to come out and
go to the facilities and bring whatever germs potentially COVID
into the building. The problem is that no one's in
that bubble anymore right now. Now people are out and about.
And I'm not saying that we need to forget about
social distancing or completely disregard kind of the slow rollout,
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but there's a reality to you're not in the bubble
at home. You're actually probably safer at a facility. And
oh yeah, by the way, you can get checked every
day when your facility, and if you do get sick,
you can get treated much more easily then if you're
at home. And if you're working, you're not gonna know
if you're running a fever. If you're working out in
the football field, you have no idea. You just think
you're hot and sweaty, right, And I think people have
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to understand too that for the NFL, there's some value
to and again I'll keep using this phrase sort of
soft opening, there's this value too. Hey, let's let's kind
of see in practice some of these protocols we think
we're gonna have. Maybe let's try this out and we'll
tell players like Tom Brady and some of these other
quarterbacks that are having workouts, Hey, if you want to
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do this, we're not going to force you to come
in here, because you know where we everything we do,
we have to have the union sign off on it anyway.
And the last thing we want to do, you know,
given where we stand in health and safety, is put
pressure on players to come in. So we're gonna say,
if you want to have workouts with wide receivers, come
on in. You know, let's figure out a way for
you to come in. And it gives teams the opportunity
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to go, Okay, how realistic is this to bring guys in,
as you said, do the checks, you know, look at
the protocols that they have in place now and see
how those work. And again, if this happens at the
end of June, that's kind of the time frame. I
think some teams would like to see that happen. And
then it gives them actual information to use between the
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break and actually opening a training camp. And guess what
if mandatory and everybody's got to come in and you've
got to have all the players and all the staffers
and the medical you know, the trainers and blah blah blah,
you actually have a little bit of information to think
about because you try to pull off maybe a smaller
sample group late in June, and it's going to help
you when July comes and you got to do the
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full gelata and you don't know what that's gonna look like.
Charles Robinson joining US Yahoo Sports, Doug Gotli show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, yeah, there's a lot of
there's a lot of discussion about Cam Newton, yet no seeming,
no seeming interest in Cam Newton. What's your sense on
what the future holds for the former m d P.
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I think he's gonna wait. I think he's gonna wait,
and he's gonna, you know, see if there is an
opportunity that arises once teams, you know, convene, because there
is no opportunity there for him now, there's no there's
no I think the opportunity he would have liked to
have seen by now is a team that would say, okay,
you know, once, once we can look at you medically,
(24:40):
all right, we're gonna take a look at you know
what what the Panthers, the NFL has already mandated the
Panthers exposed to us and then you know, we're we're
gonna look at you medically, and you're gonna come in
and if we're bringing you in the implication is we're
giving me the opportunity to compete with with someone first
starting job because you're bringing in Cam Newton right now.
I mean, that's that's honestly the implication. Unless it's gonna
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be a Jameis Winston. You're making the veteran minimum kind
of deal and it's a one year deal, and the
staff is coming out going you are a backup, and
and they can do that because they have Drew Brees
and no one's questioning whether or not Jameis Winston's gonna
fight with Drew Brees. You know. Um, that hasn't presented
itself to Cam and so I think now he's in
a phase of all right, well, I'm gonna keep working out.
(25:25):
I'm gonna get myself where I need to be, and
then I'm gonna hope that a team once training camp starts,
goes you know what a front office, you know, someone
in the front office or the coaching staff, because you know,
I'm not entirely happy where a quarterback situation is or
the backup we brought in to compete. Um, you know,
we're not happy with that guy. Something's not right here.
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We feel like we gotta strengthen this situation, or maybe
a starter falters or someone gets hurt. I'll at Teddy
Bridgewater when they ship Sam Bradford. The Eagle ship Sam
Bradford there. So he's just got to buy this time
at this point because that starting job is not available
to him, and I think right now the only way
a starting job or even a backup job was starting
potential becomes available by circumstances. This is Baker Mayfield on
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the NFL Network talking about the Browns new attitude. I
have a different approach to this year. Everybody that has
been interviewed in our team is kind of hit the
nail on the head over and over about you know,
it's just time to work. It's time to do our
things that are talking about it. So this is the
first media thing I've done just because there's no need
to be talking about it. It's just time to go
do it. And right now it's you know, kind of
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moving in silence, which is fun with me. That's how
I used to do it before getting on a bigger stage.
So I'm happy to get back to those roots, like
I said earlier, get back to the fundamentals to where
I can accomplish the goals when the season comes around.
Does that? Uh? I guess. I like, like anybody can
say it, let's see what happens when you actually play football,
you know. And I also think it's a challenge, like
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the whole Kevin Stefanski thing, Like I get it, but
it wasn't stuff on digs. He didn't like the system
last year. You mean to tell me those those two
big wide receivers are gonna be three old with them
running the ball first, second, and possibly third down, Like, yeah,
I don't, I don't know, um, but I think my
biggest question, Charles, is isn't that getting away from who
Baker Mayfield is? Right? Like? This is you know, like
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that's who he is. Like he kind of just roll
with it because the the cocky you know he's He's
like like I've got a Tom Cruise kind of effect
to it, right like right right where he's just Tom
Cruise in every character he's ever played. Is the cocky pilot,
cocky ninja guy, cocky lawyer, whatever. Like that's who Baker
Mayfield is. Will that take away some of his strength
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as a player? Yeah, I you know, I think what's
interesting about this is this is what when you talk
to people inside the Browns like I've heard this for
two months now. I mean going going all the way
back to the Combine when that regime change over occurred
and they brought in new, new, you know, coaches and
the front office was revamped. When I talked to people there,
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they're like just wait, They're like just wait. They're really
excited about Baker and I so what's why, Why are
you so excited? And what I heard was he feels humbled,
like he felt like last year was he was not himself.
He felt like, um, he made a lot of mistakes,
and and that there was a lot going around on
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around Baker Mayfield. I mean not only within the franchise,
his personal life, the coaching staff. I mean there was
it was a rough year from Baker Mayfield and and
from what I was told when when everybody engaged with
with Baker when they first got in the door, the
whole new staff and everything, Baker's attitude was it's I
gotta turn the volume down, like I need to go
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back to you know what I do, fund what you
know I do fundamentally. When people questioned me, when you
go back in my career and you look at points
where I was really not. The first thing that I
focused on was making sure I was doing what I
needed to do as a football player to make myself
the best player I could possibly be. Not commercials, not
talking to the media, not getting into Twitter beasts with
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Colin Coward or whoever else. You know, I I went
out to be a great, you know, football player, And
they were thrilled. Like the people I talked to with
the Browns are like, they expect him to have a
really big year this year, and they feel like he
is as focused and dialed in as he's been since
since he got there, including his rookie season. So when
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this came out and he said this, I was like, Okay,
this is everything I've been hearing. This is him verbalizing
apparently what he had already told the coaching staff in
the front office, which is I'm I'm turning the volume
down on me getting involved in all this other stuff
that you know, he felt like did impact him negatively
last year. And and again I can't underscore he had
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a lot of stuff going on in his life, Like
this was a guy that that I don't think everybody
knows the full scope of everything that was going on
in the Baker Mayfield bubble, but it was a lot,
and I think he's trying to dial that back and
focus on I think in his mind realizing this is
of what it means to be a professional now, Like
I can get away with so much in the past
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up to a certain point, but you know, for me
to be a professional and succeed, there's certain elements of
myself I have to now learn. The Governor Charles Robinson
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
the Dad thing has been feels like a non story story, right,
Like we just we want to know how much Dallas
is going to overpay him. Again, It's kind of what
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it feels like to me. They don't have to they
got him on a franchise tag any sense of of
if they get this thing done by July fifteen. I
keep telling people the same thing. I'm like, you know,
start watching July one, and I really think start watching
July eight. Like, to me, I don't think they're still
arguing the same thing. The fourth year versus the fifth
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year and how that impacts the salary that Dak Prescott
would ultimately get the average per year, and then the
guaranteed money in the structure. It's the two sides of
looking at it significantly differently. DAX people want the fourth year.
The Cowboys want the fifth year, and that's what's kind
of throwing these numbers out of whack. Well, this is
the same conversation they were having last summer. It's the
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same conversation they were having in September when Jerry Jones
was telling everybody, I think we're close, We're gonna get done.
I have all this optimism. And then Dak played a
couple of games and the Cowboys were like, hey, we're
gonna get this done. And DAX people said, guess what.
The price went up. You know, the last price we
talked about, the last number we talked about with you.
We want more now because now he's gone out in
the field, he's played well. You continue to hand him
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leverage and he's going to continue to use it. You know.
It's so it's just the same. This is the same argument.
I kind of made a joke that we've put this
thing in a vitamix and we keep like, you know,
just blending it up and then pouring it out over
and over again and reserving it. Um you know, I
it's someone's got a budge here. And I think the
one thing that the Cowboys have going for them is
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everybody across the NFL, and I think even agents now
know that next year could be a flat soury cap,
like that's how they're going to deal with the potential
lost revenue. And it's unlikely the capital roll back, but
it very very likely could be. It doesn't go up,
it's the same salary cap, and that means that money
is going to get drawn back a little bit moving forward.
So maybe that makes it feel, you know, like the
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one on the table for Doc right now looks a
little bit better, and you know that could help the cowbus.
I still think it gets done, but I'll say this,
if it does not get done, if he plays this
year in the franchise tag, that guy will go through
all the tags, he'll tag it out, just like Kirk Cousins,
and he will go to free agency. I think this
is the last time to get the long term deal done.
I think if it doesn't get done now it's over. Wow.
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That's that would be and that would be fascinating. Charles
Robbins and Falm on Twitter at Charles Robins and check
out his Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. It's a good one. Charles,
thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having.
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John Palm, Rosy JP. Did I did I sum it up?
Blowing up? Or did I miss something? Well? Dog, good afternoon.
I think that's a pretty uh fair representation of what
has been said to this point in time, and now
it's a matter of over the next uh four to
five days. I believe if there is a middle ground
to be found, I am still optimistic that there is.
(33:20):
I believe that one really important distinction here is that
the union had come out basically saying a week or
so ago reportedly that they were not going to be
supportive of the notion of a revenue sharing situation UH
and notably, Baseball's proposal did not include that. Baseball's proposal
this week did include UH salary rollbacks that Baseball says
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are attributable to the fact that there's not an expectation
of any fans being in the stands at this point
in time, and that was Baseball's first offer, and now
it's it's the second offer obviously from the union is
coming here at the end of the week. I still
believe Dog there is room to comprom eyes. Whether it's
by putting some of that those earnings into escrow or
(34:04):
having some of the payments be deferred. There are ways
to make the mathematics work, even though at this point
in time, as you point out publicly, at least UH,
the sides appear to be in very different places. Um,
I don't really understand baseball players need to make this
public to they do realize they're not winning any public
sentiment right Well, I think that in general, First of all,
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it's a difficult time for any large business to be
having negotiating and bargaining occur in the public forum. I
think we all understand the optics of that are are
are very difficult. I think that they are trying to
trying to represent their side, just as MLB has has
maybe at different times as well. I really think it's important.
(34:50):
While the conversation is obviously difficult to have in the
midst of the pandemic about UH, the certainly sums of
money this large. I would say that in general, I'm
gonna try my best to reserve judgment on on everything
until we get to a spot where, hopefully next week
there's an agreement or not. I think that the critical
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time is not today. The critical time is next week,
because next week is when MLB in the union. But
I really have to have an agreement in place that
that allows them to get the season going by July,
which is important because that would hopefully allow there to
be enough games where the players make closer to the
money that they were expecting to make, and MLB is
able to get the postseason in in time uh to
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hopefully avoid the second spike in cases in the fall.
So that's that is where I think the overall conversation lies.
And I think it's important to as as hard as
it is right now, Doug, for us to be patient
and let that process go forward as as unseemly as
it may be right now, before we really make that
judgment sometime next week. John palm Rossi joining us in
the Doug Gatlet Show on Fox Sports Trait. You talked
(35:56):
about the expanded schedule. They want to play a hundred games.
Does that really make up for the lost revenue of
having fans in the stands. No, not in total, it
would not. And I think that's where I think MLB
is very correct in saying that listen, um, the revenue
is gone uh for a full season now, of course,
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and that even speaks to the the interim issues of
if you're only gonna be broadcasting a certain number of
games as opposed to what the overall season would be.
So I think MLB has done, I think a very
fair job of reflecting that revenue reality in in their
offer to the players. And again it was the first offer.
I would expect there will still be some back and
forth here in the coming days, but MLB I think
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it is very fairly representing the fact that without of
the revenues, the overall pay out of of the salaries
to players has to be different and even dramatically reduced
from what it should have been in spring training if
there had been fans in the stands. I think that's
one of the key distinctions here, Doug, is that when
there was the interim agreement reached at the end of March,
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it was in in the agreement at least UH. The
understandings from the around it was that there would have
to be a second conversation if by the time play
began again, there would still not be fans in the stands.
And that's where we are right now. There's not really
an understanding of really having fans in stands at any
point in time this season, so that the economics have
to be reflected in that, and I think that MLB
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is doing the best they can under the circumstances to
have that reality part of the new agreement. Dou gotlip
show here on Fox Sports Radio. I don't know if
you saw this. Passengers had a tweet Jeff passed and
covers Major League Baseball. Another tremendous inside across baseball. Hundreds
of minor league players were cut today and lost their job,
sources tell ESPN. Hundreds more will be released over the
next week. In the end, upward of one thousand players
(37:42):
could see their baseball careers, and the minor leagues have
simply been devastated. Like this is the part no one's talking.
I under I fully understand. If you're set to make
you know ten million dollars and they say, all right,
this year you're gonna make you know, You're gonna agree
you're gonna make seven, You're like, Man, then all of
a sudden like no, no no, no, I actually you're gonna
make five. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But this is you talked
(38:05):
about active guy, like we've never Baseball's minor leagues were
already in bad shape. There there we are. There was
already questions about kind of the future. And I'm not
sure there's the true perception of just how bad it
is and just how inexpensive potential replacements are even to
the star players. Correct. And that to me, Doug, and
(38:27):
you consider the overall economics of this, I am much
more confident sure of what the major league structure will
look like than I am the minor league because of
exactly what you're talking about. The major league component, you
can still make money based on the fact that games
will be on TV. That's not the case with with
the minor leagues. And I think that that's where the
(38:48):
tremendous uncertainty of the moment is really coming into view.
And and Jeff's reporting I think puts a lot of
in a perspective. There's a lot of careers, a lot
of dreams that that will end because basically, the the
industry of of the minor leagues, at least the player
development infrastructure of a lot of teams is shrinking. And
it's shrinking because at the moment, the the the large
(39:12):
scale model of that of that part of baseball and
intrinsically involves fans in the stands in large numbers, in
in small towns, UH in a small to medium sized
cities around our country and then around North America, and
until it's safe to do that um large from public
health perspective, it really is difficult to see minor league
(39:33):
baseball as a as a viable economic uh entity coming
back in large numbers. And now that certainly we could
still see and probably will still see this year, minor
league players staying ready, likely in a connection to the
major league camp. Maybe they're just gonna be playing inter
squad games based either at the spring training site or
or with the major league club. But Doug that to
(39:55):
your point into Jeff's reporting, it's it's simply not going
to be anything like it was is at that level
of baseball UM for the for seable future. And that's
somebody that covered the minor leagues as a young reporter,
loved the minor leagues. It really is is a difficult
thing to take and to realize that that's part of
the consequences what we're going through right now. John Palmer
Rossi joining us in the Doug out Lips Show on
(40:16):
Fox Sports Tradeo that said, I do think eventually this
deal gets done right and when it gets done, they're
gonna play in stadiums, They're gonna do the bubble thing.
What do you think ultimately, I mean, obviously looks like
universal Universal d H stick. What do you think happens.
I think Douget's gonna be that that arrangement of a
(40:36):
compressed schedule where you're staying in your geographic third of
the country. Uh. From an inter league standpoint, um so
n L West plays the a L West and certainly
a lot of games within your division to limit the
amount of very distant travel. Universal d H Yes, and
the expanded playoff structure to me is exciting because that
you would have instead of five playoff teams in each league,
(40:58):
you would have seven. That's more revenue. And also, I think,
really importantly, Doug, if there's a way to get this
as part of the long term plan for the game
in the midst of all the things being discussed right now.
If that change is made permanent, that has got to
be looked upon as a real win for the union too,
because when you've got two additional playoff spots and they're
(41:18):
not just one game, it's actually a three game series.
At the very least, you're gonna have more teams that
have been designing their payroll and they're spending based on
algorithms and postseason odds. Your chance of making the playoffs
now goes up significantly of having a three game series.
When you're able to expand the playoffs from five teams
(41:39):
to seven in each league, that is a huge deal.
And so if MLB and the Union can find a
way to agree on this, the Union certainly would sign
up for this. I think right now that that part
of it with would expanded playoffs, and that has a chance,
DOUG to really manifestly affect the way the teams spend
their money for years to come because their odds of
making the playoffs will be better, and that to me,
(41:59):
has been driving a lot of the depression and spending
that that players have have not liked in recent years
has been because of that calculation of your playoff odds.
The better your odds the more you spend. We already
saw them starting to change with the reds and the
white soxes past winter, and I am hopeful, Doug that
we're gonna see that resume in the years to come,
maybe not this coming winner, but certainly in the in
the the winners after that, as the industry returns more
(42:22):
to his normal operation. John palm ROSSI joining us NHL wise,
I'm here in Vegas is done and Edmonton is the
possible other one is that what you're hearing, Uh, not
not quite yet in terms of having things narrowed down
that far. I do think the unique thing about this,
Doug is going to be and while Vegas said, I
think it has a lot to a lot to say
for itself. I think also maybe you would have one
(42:43):
of the the sites in the eastern half of the
country or North America to help logistically to balance things out.
The one thing about having the one of the hubs
in Canada one hub in the US is some of
the cross border travel eventually down the line two players
Stanley Cup final could become a little little problematic. So
I really think it makes sense to either be all
in Canada or all in the US from where I sit,
(43:06):
but I think from the UH the league is working
through a lot of different logistics there, and they've got
a lot of great host cities possibly to consider in
the eastern half, it would be likely Columbus or Toronto,
but we'll see. But I think Vegas, with all the
hotels they're doug. I think that's a really good point
that you make about UH, the infrastructure and the ability
to host a lot of people in one very small area.
I think in Vegas they've really got a lot on
(43:27):
their favor. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Vegas is opening
up next week June four. There'll be some good parties. Obviously,
they're gonna they're gonna have crowd police to check in temperatures.
Will see how that goes. So they'll have they'll be
up and running before the NHL players can get there,
and uh we we we'll see. Obviously they've been just
dying in terms of losing money. But all the flights
(43:49):
starting to crank up and get back to Vegas. We'll
see if that's where the NHL gets JP awesome awesome stuff. Um,
last thing, let's go back to baseball. How much of
this is? How much of the Boors email affects Boors
business in the future. Well, certainly, Scott has so many
high profile clients, and he's got so many guys that
(44:10):
signed mega deals just this winter, Garret Cole, Anthony Rendon,
uh So, I think Scott in in so many ways,
is a brand unto himself and uh and and the
notion of Scott taking a prominent role in terms of
trying to guide his players and his clients and influencing
uh their thought process, their thought process and their ability
(44:32):
to be suppokes people for his his position is not
surprising to me as someone who's covered the game for
a long time. I think Scott has uh, Scott really
have not changed much in the past, Doug, and I
think that the current moment will not really change too
much of who he is in the future. He's a
pretty consistent person in terms of how he interacts with
with the world and with baseball, and I would expect
(44:55):
that in the midst of the rather contentious movement right now,
whatever the outcome is here, I still think a year
or two from now he's going to have high profile
clients and probably still represent them and and get some
pretty big deals for them. Here in the future too.
John Palmeros c JP, awesome insight. Thanks so much, man.
Doug always thought the conversation with my friend to look
forward to the next one. Hopefully we've got baseball to
talk about back on the field here in the next
(45:17):
couple of weeks.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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