July 9, 2020 • 60 mins
Doug Gottlieb explains why there is an argument that LeBron James is only a top-10 player of all-time and reacts to the breaking news that the Big 10 will play a conference-only schedule this season. Is Raheem Mostert making the right decision by demanding a trade from the reigning NFC Champion? Plus, Doug speaks with former NFL quarterback Brandon Weeden about Cam Newton’s short offseason with his new team!
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and of course you can also download the podcast. Man,
we got so many different ways in which, uh, in
which you can listen to our show. I were, um,
we're getting ready for the NBA A season to get
back underway. Teams are arriving in Orlando, Florida. Uh. Many
of them have been quarantined themselves. I have friends in
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the NBA who haven't we have we got together with
once or twice and then they were told by their
teams to shut it down because they had to be
in quarantine to make sure they didn't test positive, test
positive gets sent home. But we're getting ready for it,
and I do think that there's a bigger topic. On
a smaller remark, here's the topic. NBA analyst Kenny Smith
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made up his top ten players Listen ranked Lebron James tenth.
This is all time tent, despite being much lower than
the consensus um escape Bayliss from from Fox Sports said
that listing Lebron at number ten isn't too far from
where he would personally rank him. Now, look, it's interesting.
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I'm somebody who has who has been seen as Lebron
hater because once upon a time I had a list
of of my top players of all time, and because
I didn't have Lebron number one or even number two,
I was called a hater. And keep in mind that
basketball has been around a long time. We take the
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modern era of basketball, if we go since really the nineties,
you're talking about forty years, and there's a list of
guys that I think you have to put in that conversation.
I believe Magic, I believe Bird, obviously, Jordan's Um, there's
Kobe there, Shack, and then of course when you start
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to go historically, there are others like Kareem abdul Jabbar,
there's World Chamberlain, there's Elgin Baylor, Jerry west Uh and
of course Bill Russell. So look, look, I'll just tell
you my general practice is I don't I the rankings thing.
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I don't know. I feel like rankings for anything is
a lot like the rankings for college basketball. The only
thing that really matters is who's ranked number one? And
are you actually ranked in the top twenty five, right,
because when you're playing I remember playing college basketball, if
you're ranked in the top twenty five, your highlights are
on every time you play. Your names in the paper,
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your highlights, your your scores are in the paper in
every paper every time you play. And now, obviously as
we've moved to websites and digital top twenty five teams,
still it's still the same with your thirteen or the
nineteen or your twenty four. As long as you're not
twenty six, you're in the top twenty five. That's a
good thing. Being ranked is a good thing, and being
ranked number one outside that and nothing else matters. But
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I'm not I think Kenny Smith's point is a really
good one, which is, hey, let's be honest, not only
is the game change and become a more offensive game.
So the stats are completely skewed. If you don't think
the stats are skewed, I I have one player that
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points out just how much easier it is to obtain stats.
And while you're still a great player, you're not as
great as your stats would tell you. You ready for it,
Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook isn't in the top fifteen as
a passer in the NBA. He's not. And you can
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sit here and tell me how many assists the average
and the average double digit assistant. That's fine. I might
know might not know a ton about mutual funds. I
don't know a lot, even in terms of sports, about
how hockey offense, defense, red zone trap. I don't know
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how those things work. About passing up basketball pretty well equipped.
This is a conversation that I'm more equipped to have
than all of you combined. No, the it is disrespectful
if you think, but I know it for a fact.
If I pulled everyone of our listeners or every one
of the millions downloads on the All Ball podcast, I
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would say that we're starting to get to what I
know about basketball. He's not. He's also not a great rebounder.
He's a great he's a good rebounding guard, but he's
not a great rebounder. And while he's a fantastic overall
player and score, not a particularly good shooter, but he's
because of the volume of touches, the pace of play,
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the way in which defense and and and and teams
have evolved, essentially taking power forwards out of the game,
opening up the paint completely with centers that can shoot
or centers that are simply pick and roll guys. We
went from not having a guy average a triple double
for forty years to Russell Russell Westbrook averaging it three
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years in a row. Either Russell Westbrook is one of
the five greatest players of all time or the stats
are completely skewed to to make it look like he's better,
which is fine. I mean that this happens in college football.
Now they run ten to fifteen to twenty more plays
than they've ever run before. And when you run more plays,
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you'll crew more yards. I mean you crew more yards.
You'll also score more touchdowns. But if you don't like it,
how does everybody have? It's the same thing in the NFL.
How do we go from ten years ago you had
one or two four thousand yard passers too, and now
you have ten four thousand yard passers, Like I'm willing
to believe that Lamar Jackson maybe the fastest quarterback we've
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ever had. How does that offense dominate Why? Well, because
people set their defenses two different styles of offense, and
so even though they may think they know how to
stop Lamar Jackson, they just don't have the personnel. And
you can't change personnel week to week. So, circling back
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to basketball, Lebron james dominance statistically has helped out remarkably
by how basketball is played, by how rosters are constructed,
by how the game is officiated. The best example of
that is Lebron James is not a score by trade.
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He can really score, and he's made himself into a
fantastic shotmaker, but by his own estimation, he would much
rather set somebody up than he would make the shot himself.
That's his own words. Yet he could go down and
very well might go down as the NBA's all time
scoring leader. What does that tell you? You have other
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guys like career abdulger Bar that all they did was score,
and yeah, he olds the all time mark. If he
gets surpassed by a guy who well wasn't his intent,
it shows you how there's more possessions. The three point
shot obviously, um changes the value of every possession. Combine
that with the dominant ball handling of whoever the lead
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guy is, and it's been Lebron James through every team
that he's been on, and there you have his statistical dominance,
more and more and more, more and more offense less
in terms of defense and physicality, and guys meeting you
to clog the lane, and his style of basketball, essentially
playing bullyball, does in fact work, and the stats become skewed. Now,
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the flaw in Kenny Smith's argument is that it's he's
not just a statistical freak his team has. In fact,
one the flaw in the his team's win and get
the NBA Finals is when he went to the Miami Heat,
he destroyed two playoff teams in the Raptors and the Calves,
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taking their best players with him him and Um and
Chris Bosh, and then pulled the final like chair out
from under the Boston Celtics by taking Ray Allen after
he'd been there for a year and you had very
little competition, right, The toughest he was pushed was an
over the hill Celtics team that didn't have Ray Allen
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that had gone through a change, or the Indiana Indiana
Pacers that had a young Paul George and Roy Hibbert
was their go to guy. Like there, it had he
lost in any of those Eastern Conference finals or semifinal series,
it would have been a massive upset. Let's not act
like it wasn't expected, not just because Lebron but because
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the lack of talent in the East. But if your
argument is if you're Kenny Smith, is if we go
by stats, he's only tenth overall, that's fine. The problem
is he's also won a whole hell of a lot
of games. He's gotten to all those NBA finals, and
even though he's three and eight in those NBA finals,
one of those three was in the conversation of greatest
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come acts in the history of the sport. But but
Kenny Smith's argument is a good one. It's one that's
made by a lot of old school NBA guys. Please
stop with the look at his stats. Stats are deceiving.
Case in point, Russell Westbrook three straight years of a
triple double, and Russell Westbrook isn't in the conversation of
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the best pastors ever. And and while he's a good rebounder,
he gets a greater volume of rebounds because there's more
shots being taken and more three pot shot three point
shots being taken, which is more long rebounds for your
point guard. Sports are being made easier to score on offense,
easier to look good because of your stats, and Lebron
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James benefits greatly from that. Does that take away from
his greatness? I don't think so. I think ten is
a little bit low. But I also think that it's
hard to tell and compare eras, especially this era, considering
it's not just the the officiating, it's also the personnel
and the volume of possessions. Coming up next, Jim Harbaugh
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isn't ready to press cancel on the college football season,
but should he give you my thoughts next, be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio ah app Doug
gott Leave Show Fox Sports Radio brand. Whilliam's gonna join
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us twenty five after the hour, Well, ask him about
how a locker room works in terms of discussions about
race and religion, etcetera, etcetera. Plus I want to ask
him about learning new offenses and how long it takes
somebody like a like a Cam Newton, Pat forty will
join us next hour, So Pat forty and the question
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becomes and I want to get into this. You know
Stanford cut Was it eleven sports yesterday? And it should
be pointing out Stanford at thirty six varsity sports? Stanford,
which which boasts they have more national champions seen anybody. Yeah,
it's because you have more sports than anybody. And when
you're willing to have varsity sports like fencing and heavyweight rowing.
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I didn't know why heavyweight rowing and light it was
their lightweight rowing. The heavyweight rowing was cut. What about
the lightweight rowing? Why do why is this is this
fat shaming? Is that what I'm kidding? Of course, we'll
get into the Stanford thing. We'll ask pad for you
about just how how tough it appears to be for
UH college athletics in the upcoming year. Speaking of college athletics,
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is Jim Harball, head coach of Michigan on a zoom
call yesterday explaining why football needs to happen this fall.
If it comes to a point in time where you
know we can't play, you know, it's obvious, it's clear,
then everybody would be reasonable and know that that was
the right thing to do. But covid is is part
of our society. Wasn't caused by football or caused by sports.
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And there's no expert view right now that I'm aware of.
These kids have to do the same thing. You know,
they've got to go to school, they're training their whole
lives for the opportune unity to play their to play
their sport. And that's my view. With the knowledge that
we have, it would be my responsibility or responsibility and
the player's responsibility also you know, keep themselves safe, and
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also you get the schooling and the training that they need. Yeah,
there there's some There's an interesting sentence or two in
there right where he's like, you know, to my knowledge,
football or sports didn't cause this. I don't think anybody
said he caused it. I know what he's getting at.
He's getting at, are you more likely to spread it?
Or does does it spread it more? And it's really
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hard to figure out what's what the numbers continue to
go up. I see us are filling up, although we
don't really have a control group, right, we don't have
anybody telling us. Okay, I see us are reaching or
at capacity. But are they normally at capacity at this
time of year? Or is that? Is this wrong? Is
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you know, like, what what percentage of capacity is normal?
How much over normal above normal? Are we will that
settle down? The death numbers aren't aren't high, They're actually
lower than they have have been. On the other hand,
should we be celebrating that when you know, if you
get a bad case of COVID, your lungs become like
Swiss cheese. It's extremely difficult. But I also think that EI,
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there has to be a little bit of reality of why.
The same reason, the same reason that schools don't want
to have kids in class, and this is really Clay
was on yesterday with us and he's agreeing with the
president having kids is the same reason that college athletics
and and you know, colleges don't want to have students
on campus. Nobody wants to get sued. Nobody wants to
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get sued in the rare case. In the rare case
that you have um, the one COVID case where a
kid gets really sick and it changed his life, or
I mean somebody actually dies. You're you're gonna get your
pants suit off because you've been warned time and again
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about having kids, uh, you know, on campus but maintaining
social distancing. But the fact that there is no no
cure to this point. So I I just the reason
you can't have kids in schools in you know, in
classrooms across the country is all it takes is one grandma,
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one grandpa, one parent to get sick, to blame the school,
to sue the school. And now of a sudden, you're
talking about lawsuits that you could have multiple lawsuits where
people have class action lawsuits or whatever, and you hit
these school districts which already cast trapped to begin with,
now additionally cash trapped because they haven't they haven't had
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school event students. If you don't have students, you don't
get paid. Then you factor in you could get sued
because of sending people people into a cauldron that has
COVID nineteen. That's why people won't do it. Yeah, I know,
he wants football back. He's Jim Harbaugh's classic football guy,
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which is great, and I don't necessarily think he's wrong.
If your health is at risk, if you're over the
age of sixty five, then you would have to step away.
The problem with it becomes the athlete, the one athlete
that gets really, really sick from it, the one athlete
that brings it home to mom or to Grandma or
Grandpa that they that's the ones you're worried worried about.
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Let's get you to Dan Buyer and find out what
else is going on dB what he got Doug on
the heels of all of that. Nicole Auerbach of The
Athletic is reporting that an official announcement is expected later
today that the Big Ten will go to a conference
only schedule in college football for the season. There were
some rumors circulating yesterday that this could be a possibility,
a ten game schedule maybe for the Big Ten, but
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again the Athletic reporting that the Big Ten will play
a conference only football schedule in the fall. That would
eliminate one of the biggest matchups, if not the biggest
matchup in non conference football. Ohio State was sent to
travel to Oregon in September. Some news from the NFL
Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman invited Eagle's Wande receiver to
Sean Jackson to the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington,
(17:20):
d C. In a post on Instagram, Edelman, who was
Jewish Jewish, said quote, I know he said some ugly things,
but I do see an opportunity to have a conversation.
It's really hard to see the challenges of community can
face when you're not part of it. So what we
need to do is I need to listen, we need
to learn, we need to act, We need to have
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those uncomfortable conversations if we're gonna have real change. Nashville
I s C withdrew from the m L s Is
Back Tournament following multiple positive COVID name teen tests from players.
Tiger Woods will make his first start since the coronavirus
shutdown when he plays in Jack Nicholas's tournament, The Memorial
next week at Muirfield Village. Murefield Village this week coasting
the Work Day Charity Open. Adam Hadwin has the lead
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after a round of sixty six today puts him at
six under par. Hideki matsu Yama in a time for
second at five under Phil Mickelson moving up the leaderboard.
He has two shots back at four under par through
eight tolls Doug Back to You, Doug Otlip Show, Fox
Sports Radio. UM. In addition to being a starting quarterback
with Browns, with the Cowboys and with the Texans, he
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was starting quarterback in Oklahoma State and they won the
Fiesta Bowl over Andrew Lux Stanford Cardinal. He's Brandon Wade
and he joined us in the the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Brandon's breaking news that that the Big
Ten is said to announce that they are knocking They're
gonna have no non conference conference only schedule. What's your reaction?
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You know, I know rounding every raised a big topic
obviously football, and that was one of the things that
you know, I thought that was a legit possibility, and
I thought, you know, now you can maybe start a
little bit later in the year. You don't have those
games early and early in September. So yeah, I mean,
you know, as long as there's football, I'm I'm all
for it. I I think it's good. I mean, I
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know that you know, some of these smaller schools that
go on the road or have these big, you know programs,
I know it's a big money maker for him. But
you know these times are different. So, uh, you know,
I think it's a good, good solution. You know, hopefully
hopefully every conference decides to do it. Um, I think
that gives an opportunity, you know when you still get
nine or ten games in for the most part, and
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you know, you still still get football. So I'm all
for it. I think it's uh, it's a good solution.
Hopefully everybody kind of falls in line with that Doug
Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um it it
has to make it in addition to financially, it makes
the whole season different, right like when you don't have
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anybody else to kind of your year. You guys won
the one the Fiesta Bowl, right, Um, who who do
you open the season with? I think of that year
was Louisiana Lafayette, So I think you know, they came
to still Water and you know, I don't know now
that I'm here to thinking about. I mean, it is
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tough because you know, now you're jumping right in the
conference game and not to sound ruby, you know, as
a as a big time you know, as a as
a Power five conference, if you're Alabama or you're whoever
may be. You know, you don't get those those cupcake
tip games that you're expected to win. You know, now
you're going right into the conference and you know you're
playing teams are they're legit, you know, contenders or have
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a chance to be, especially you know in the A
c S there in the SEC and even Big Ten.
I mean they're all they're all got good teams now.
So yeah, I mean, you know, we opened with Lafayette
UM and we didn't play great. I mean, you're not
to rush off. I've been going to get yourself for
the last five or six weeks and you finally get
to play another team and it's just different. So it
takes you, you know, a game or two to kind
of kind of kind of getting a rhythm. And you know,
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with this schedule, you don't have the you don't have
the luxury of doing that. Yeah. I mean, like look,
if I if I remember back right, you played Louisiana Lafayette,
then you played Arizona lay him at home, and then
you played Tulsa on the road, and then you had
A and M on the road, which is a great game. Uh.
Tannehill was the quarterback there, right, and you went in
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and beat him thirty to twin and I was an
amazing I was impressive win to go on the road.
But like, can you imagine if you open your season
with that game. Granted we don't know if there's stands
in the stands, well, there's a lot we don't know,
But how different is the season if you cut out Louisiana,
Lafayette and Tulsa and even Arizona where you can figure
some stuff out, and you open on the road at
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at A and M. It's tough. I mean, especially if
you have to go on the road. I think you know,
if you're playing at home, you know, it gives you
a little bit of an advantage, I would say, but
it's tough. I mean, like I said, you go through
training camp, you scrimmage yourself, you're prepared, you know, those
last couple of weeks of training camp for that for
that opener um. But if you again, if you're if
you're jumping right into it and you're playing on a
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really good team, I mean, if you're let's go let's
say Tennessee, and you've gotta go play whoever Georgia or
whoever it may be. You know, and you've got to
go to Athens and play. I mean that's tough right
out of the box, and so you know that's um.
But again I think, you know, we're getting little nitpicky
because you know, because everybody and everybody has to go
through the same thing, and yeah, I mean it becomes yeah,
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I totally understand. Hey, let me let me get to
this Cam Newton thing. Okay, so Cam, it was just
downs yesterday's part of the Patriots. Okay, So what's real?
How does it actually work? You go to a new team.
This has happened to you two times over, right, You
go to a new team, new offense, new verbiage. What's
the process like of learning? Every They send you just
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a playbook in the mail, Like how does it work?
Usually you know that the first day you get in there,
the thell issue an iPad um. Some teams just depending
on the team, you know, some guys prefer iPad some
guys prefer the thick notebook, you know where you can
write handwritten notes, and everybody's different, but they give you both,
so you get get you get a true playbook. And
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then basically what you do is most teams do it.
They break it down and usually into ten install. So
you know, let's say day one install is let's say, um,
these eight inside zone runs or you know whatever inside
outside zone, and you know these these quick game passes,
maybe the there's probably the let's say eight to ten
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quick game type passes. Then you have your thirty drop
backs and you play actions. So that's that's day one.
So you're learning those on day one, the first day
you get in there. Well, come day too, now it's
another now and maybe you know your counter power runs
and then that you're um, you know, intermediate type passes
of play action passes, and then you have another um
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drop backs. So that just goes on and on and
on for ten days. So as a as a player
that doesn't really isn't in the system a whole lot.
I mean, after day one you gotta go back and
study day one stuff because you know you won't run
it again for another tenor eleven days. So it's a
it's just a process. It takes time. It's hard, you know,
it's it's it's I'm an underrated thing, you know, and
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up we've talked about it, but you know, going from
one system to another is is very challenging. And I
mean i was playing. I played golf with tim or Tay,
the new quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma State, and my business
partner was riding the golf car with me, and we
were talking ball and they're like. He was like, man,
it sounds like you guys are speaking another language. You
guys are just like and I said, man, that's just
simple basic football. So it's you know, when you come
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into a new system, you just gotta adapt and learn
that that terminology and ba's what you gotta do is
turn you know, let's say it's I don't know, whatever
the play is, you've probably ran that place somewhere else.
You just gotta kind of put the burbage and piece
it all together that way. It's just it's not easy.
There's a lot, especially as a quarterback. You got a
lot of your plate um. You know. One thing that
people want to talk about too is shoot just the
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operation getting in the huddle, calling play gets a lot
of screaming and making a mic point um. You know.
The cadence, I mean, there's several different cadences, you know,
dummy cadences. I mean, there's just so much that they mean.
When you're used like a guy like camp he's been
playing Carolina for a long time. He's been in that
Digit system. Now he's going to New England in a
completely different system. It's gonna take time. It's not gonna
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happen overnight. Um, it's a it's a lot more detailed
system that than what he used to Okay, so so
you've used digit system before and you did break it
down for us once previously, but in indulgees one more
time because not everybody hears you every week and or
or downloads the pod when we have you on Brandon
We and our guests in the Doug Gottlip Show on
(25:26):
Fox Sports Radio. Norv Turner coached you for a year
with Cleveland Brown's. That that's the digit system, right, that
was the North Turner system. That was that Carolina was
using last What is the digit system? Yeah. So fortunately
when after NorVa, I went to Dallas and we were
in the same system, so I was able to be
in that that system for three years. It's a very
quarterback and receiver friendly system. So basically the formations are
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broken down by t S, d S and S TASER
your trips formations, so three bottle one formations, your d
S or your double formations, so by two your apps
or your your flanks, so the tight ends are usually
on the same side and it flips depending on personnel
that flips the receivers and a kind of a slot formation.
So that's that's kind of the deal with the formation.
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So you're kind of limited to a certain extent on
how many formations you can do. You can shift and
do certain things, but basically, if you're in a three
bottle one formation, balls on the left, hash three receivers
to the right, one receiver to the left, the digit
will start with the ex receiver as a single receiver
and work its way like you're reading a book from
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left to right. And so you'll say whatever E F drag,
So X has the eight, which is a post, and
then the two is a deep cross, and then a
six and you know, sometimes it's the curl, sometimes it's
the is a square in twenty yard dig and then
you tag the F drag So the the is the
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route concept and left right. I got it from left
to right, yeah, and so those numbers correlate with the tree,
you know, you can basically it's technically zero through nine,
nine being a god ball, eight being a post. Uh,
seven being a corner, six being a dig um by
being a comeback for being a curl, three being and
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out the traditional teaming tour of yard out um to
slant one hits and so basically you can line up
in these formations and then you say the numbers. So
it's again like I said, so trips right eight six,
so X has got the big post with the cross,
with the dig from the under, you know, you just
kind of have to learn with the Backscott he's got
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a sneak route or you can tag whatever route you
want for the back. But basically it cuts down the
bourbage because you don't have to say X dig why
cross you know, Z dig you know, see to say
track that's the play. So a lot less bourbage. Very
quarterback friendly. So these receivers when they come in, mainly
for the receivers, they can come in right away, learn
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the formation. No, we're a line up, and really the
numbers or the tag tells them the routes. It's very
very receiver friendly um and quarterback friendly because you you know,
you don't have to say as much in the huddle
and you get a lot of scrimmage and and do
those things. But it's a it's a good system. I
was probably my favorite system I played in. Um. It
just it allows you do a lot of different things.
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And let's say that they decide, hey, Kim's our guy,
we want to run some of that zone read action
some of the things that the Ravens have done. Patriots
did it when they had Jacobe Brissette for a short
period time when Brady was suspended. Obviously, Uh, if you
you look, um, when McDaniels was in Denver, they ran
some of it with Tebow as his quarterback. What is
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what is that like? What? What do you any idea
what those plays sound like when they're called? Yeah, we
did a lot of that in Houston with DeShawn in Houston,
and uh, New England run the exact same system with
Bill O'Brien coming from New England. So it's exact same system.
So whenever DeShawn got there, obviously we didn't do that
when I was there with Ostwiler or Holier or any
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of the other guys. So yeah, you know, I don't
know if I'm so sayous or now, but they call
it their Eyes program, so all their zone reach stuff.
They have several different ways to do it with motions
and you know kind of just I violation stuff with
the linebackers. But you know, they basically call a run
play and tag the word eyes to it, so it's
you know whatever, Um, I don't know, thirty four eyes,
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so you're you're running thirty four. And then for the
the eyes part is for the Sean's for the quarterback
to read that defensive end. The feast slides on a
line of scrimmage, he has ability to tuck it in.
You know, the way the blocking schemes all blocked up,
they account for the you know, the line will basically
not block the defensive end and worked up to that
SAM or will linebacker uh to create you know, basically
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lead blocker for the for the quarterback if you were
to pull it. So it's very simple. It seems very interested.
It just puts, you know, kind of the whole deal
on the quarterback. It's it's his job to read it
out and read it right. Um. But as far as
the bourbage goes, very we just call whatever run play
you want to run with it and then tag We
tagged eyes whenever I was in Let's say, that's fascinating
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because you could see like if they decided to to
change in hybrid as their system to to to make
Cam back into camp, and I just don't Just My
thing is, nobody knows his his not just his health,
but his ability to stay healthy. Right because like everybody,
if you haven't played football in a year and you've
been working out, you're gonna feel and look good. But
can you stay healthy after playing a legit game, and
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especially if they start running him, if he gets in
the game and he's taking more hits than anybody in
the last nine years in the NFL. So I think
that that part is but but but the the detail
you're providing us is fascinating in terms of what they
do if do they teach him the whole New England
system or do they break it down and and create
some sort of system like they created for Dashaun in
Houston in order to allow him to play more freely
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because he's read that defensive end probably since he was
in high school, definitely in junior college and college and
in the NFL with the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, exactly, And
the quarterback has a lot of influence, I mean especially
I'm sure it'll be the same with him, you know,
DeShawn had these plays he ran Clemson. You know a
lot of that zone read and sometimes you can run
that zone read and you can run pop type passes,
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play action type passes off of that, and so you
know that a lot of that kind of depends on
the quarterback and what his comfort level is with what
they're doing. Um. You know, and kind of just kind
of dawned on me when Jacoby came in and played, Um,
I was with Houston and we were in New England.
He was that was a game he played him. He
balled out, but you could tell Josh McDaniels just dialed
it up for him, you know, and and did stuff
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he was comfortable with. Josh McDaniels is a great offensive mind.
I mean, one of the best, if not one, you know,
top two or three best offensive minds of football. So
I mean he's creative and I mean he's he's a
great play caller, got a great feel for it. So
you know, once they figure out what they're good at,
what Cam likes. I mean, I don't think there's many
guys in the league as good as Josh McDaniels be
able to dill it up for him and and try
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to make him as comfortable as possible, because, like I said,
he did with Jacoby, Jacoby's a great player who came
in hadn't played much and he just he watched us
and they played. They played a pretty fallese game and
be is pretty good at third place. Awesome stuff. And
that's right that you were. You were on the Texans
that game I've forgotten because that was the game and
they ran they ran option, they ran read option, you know,
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they did they did some single wing stuff like they
just did. It was really really simple, but it's really
really smart. And my point is that defenses and and
other people have said this, I'm echoing that defenses aren't
designed even if you know how you want to stop it,
the personnel you have isn't designed for that type of offense,
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at least in the regular season, because that's not an
offense of the teams in the NFL are much more traditional,
and so you set your personnel for that. That's yeah,
that's that's from us, exactly right. I mean, you know,
especially the systems that like we're talking about with the
zone reached stuff. I mean, if you design the plays
right and you're going it's you know, there's certain teams
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you don't want to run any games. You know, guys
that are you know, defensive ends that are you know,
hard online guys, or guys who can you know, read
just good online and come back and still make a play.
I mean, there's certain defensivens you don't want, don't want
to run those plays against. But yeah, I mean the
personnel kind of makes up what they want to do.
That's just that's the cat and mouse game of the NFL.
You know, everybody kind of does the same thing to
to a certain extent. It's who's better and who's more
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polished at those things, and that's usually a team that
finds a way to win. But yeah, I think it's
it's it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out,
especially in New England. I think, like we talked last week,
it's it's a high reward with little risks as far
as the money goes. So it's gonna be it's gonna
be interesting. Who wanted on the Gulf for us? Did
Rote take money from you or do you take it
from Rite? Well, unfortunately I had a good part. I
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played awful that day. He played He beat me. I mean,
he's beating by two or three shots. So he got me.
But I have a feeling we'll play again. I need
a rematch that we uh. I went out yesterday and
I shot eleven shots better than I did when we
played on Monday. So it was it wasn't pretty as
as bad as I can hit it. I played around
this morning. There was some good. There was some bad.
The short game was awful, awful, but um, but there's
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some there. There were some there were some good moments.
There were some good moments there. So I'm gonna I'm
gonna take the good and work on the bad. In meantime,
be enjoy a hitting that hitting that little white ball
straight and far. And thanks so much for joining us, everybody.
That's the one only Brandon weed and joined us in
Doug Gotlip show on Fox Sports Radio. It's great, right,
Like I'm if you popped in mid conversation, might have
been a little hard. But did you I just learned
(34:27):
a ton about the NFL, the digits. Did you get
the digit system? Cool? Did you get about the eyes? Eyes?
What that? What that means? With with the read zone
read right where you basically call running play but then
you say eyes, what means Deshaun Watson can if you
don't want to do that, he can do whatever he
wants to do and tuck it and run the football.
It's amazing, God, he's so good at that's that's NBA
(34:49):
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without sports, but sports is creeping up on us. But
we don't know what it will look like, right, We
just we don't know. There's so much unknown, Like I
I don't I don't actually know. You know, you got
t VT going on right now, the basketball tournament. Talk
about that some upcoming but it's fascinating that that can
take place, and yet the NBA struggling seemingly to get going.
(35:35):
And I understand those guys are much more valuable but
still human beings, and they don't They have far more
resources than the basketball tournament has, so we can't take
some from it. Major League baseball getting back underway. We
have Korean baseball and uh Taiwanese baseball already being played.
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What separates us is we have collegian sports. I am
not just as a former college athlete. I'm just a
huge proponent of college athletics. I think it's amazing. My
experience mirrors many of my friends experience. We didn't. We
were in a frat, we were in a sorority. We
had our team and our teammates, and we learned so
much from the challenges of the sport, of balancing the
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sport with school and life, and the diversity of everybody,
not just diversity of in terms of skin colors or
religious backgrounds, but also just people from all over the country.
I've told my kids, like, hey, let's find what you're
good at, and let's see if we you can get
good enough where you can play in college, because it's
so much fun. It is so much fun. I got
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a little dude who thinks he's gonna be a hooper,
but he could be a baseball player. You could be
a football player. I don't know. He's good, little athlete,
pretty tough, got some potential. I have a daughter who
wants to ride horses in college and equestrian is one
of those has not been cut yet, but it's a
fairly expensive sport to maintain. Yesterday Stanford an ounce that
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they're cutting eleven sports, eleven varsity sports. That should be
pointing out and this is really important that it ain't
like Stanford had, you know, eighteen sports, and it's cutting eleven.
Now they've got to get back up over the fourteen thright,
you have to have fourteen to be at the Vision
one program. Thirty six is the most of anybody, and
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their private school a huge endowment. But Stanford, for the
longest time, their sole goal was to win more national
championships than anybody and prove that student athletes can be
students and athletes. The farmers of beautiful college campus. Man,
that's a it's like the picture of what it's supposed
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to be. Of course, it's right there in Silicon Valley.
It's really expensive. You know, they have a program where
um varsity coaches can live on campus. Because it's so
expensive to buy or rent housing in that area, arguably
the most expensive in the country. They built on campus
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housing houses for the college coaches. So they kind of
eleven sports Yesterday and if that doesn't signify. And I
understand like men's and women's fencing and some of these sports.
They did credit volleyball, they won about volleyball and national championships.
They cut wrestling, wrestling and always kind of seems to
get the shaft um. They cut something called heavyweight rowing.
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I wasn't sure that there was a lightweight rowing that survived.
I don't know, but we're gonna break all this down
with Pat forty. To me, what's most interesting is what
do we look like? What what does sports look like
when we come out of this? What does it looks
like we come out of this? You know, how much
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does it have? And and to people who want to
use the endowment, understand that usually seventy every school is differ,
but the endowment can't be touched for athletics. Most things
are earmarked for something else. And colleges are preparing to
lose massive amounts of money. One you won't if you
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don't have students on campus, you're not gonna be able
to make money on room, on board and everything else
that they make money in too. If you don't have
students on campus, you're gonna lose. There'll be a lot
of kids take the year off, and then you lose
money in that terms, that tuition. And then if you
don't have college football games, you don't have outings, you
don't have musical you know, you don't have concerts orchestra concerts,
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whatever you can bring alumni back, your donations are going
to be down. He guy, I wouldn't touch the I
wouldn't touch the endowment unless I had to. Anyway, you
don't know how much money you're gonna lose. And those
are all money losers. And maybe this is hey where
college sports was. It's likely where college sports was going anyway.
But when Stanford starts cutting sports, private school, well funded,
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you need to perk up your ears and pay attention.
Need to perk abers and pay attention. All right, here,
here's what we're gonna do. Um. Stephen Jackson tried to
explain himself on CNN. Now, I want to get a
thorough I want to I want to make a thorough
listen of what he tried to say. For if we
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if you're if you recall and you've been listening to
Sean Jackson posted a fake Hitler quote on Instagram three
days ago. I guess two days ago, and then three
days ago and then two days ago. It was roundly
discussed and though there was very limited criticism of the
(40:49):
actual post, the one guy who went onto his I
G Live and actually supported it was Stephen Jackson, and
then even Jackson yesterday went onto his I G Live
and continued to support it. Last night he went on CNN.
This is what he had to say with Don lemon
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in sort of apologizing for what he said. Why would
you feel the need to co sign something that that
was not positive? That's what people don't understand, especially after
all the goodwill that you inspired and created after George Floyd?
Why would you even wade into this? I'm gonna tell you,
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just like I told him, nice try, I've been out
of fighting for justice for equality, and I was speaking
on equality. Why they wasn't havling Cooper and de Shaun
Jackson any other way? Like I said, they can twisted
how they want to. You didn't hear you. Didn't hear
a word on my mom saying I hate you. You
didn't hear a word on my mom saying I'm supported hitman.
They can twist it how they want. I don't hate nobody.
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I've been standing up for everybody. I'm gonna continue to
and and that's just the end of it. Yeah, look
I did. He never said he hated Jews. That's important.
And just so you know, I don't hate Steven Jackson.
I I've just it's almost like, but you need to
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go back and listen to yourself and understand why. I
really think he might not understand what he in fact
was saying. And and look what what what the criticism
would be of me saying this is, well, here you go,
you're a white guy, single black guys dumb. I think
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Steven Jackson actually has an incredible amount of intelligence, street smarts.
It's got a great feel, okay. And we've had him
on the show, I've been with him on TV shows,
on on FS one, you know. And I don't think
he's a I don't think he's a dumb fella. But
I think in this particular case, he either is totally
(42:59):
uneducated on the background of of anti Semitism, which is
a distinct possibility, or he's not actually smart enough in
this particular avenue to be discussing things, because it's mind
blowing that he wouldn't understand you don't have to say
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you hate Jews when you say that Jews own all
the banks, which is not true, and that nothing de
Sean Jackson said was wrong, and that nothing he said
was untrue. You're going into an old like Roman Nazi
anybody who's hated Jews playbook, right, Like that's you're actually
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reading chapter in verse anti Semitism propaganda one oh one.
And I get that there are a lot of people
who don't know, don't understand. It's okay, it's actually okay.
It's actually a thing that of that intelligent people do
sometimes go, you know, I actually don't know this. What
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was the expression I always uses? Smart people are smart
enough to know what they don't know. And I don't
know if Steven Jackson smart enough to know what he
doesn't know. By the way, Don Lemon asked an awful question.
What he said wasn't mean, it didn't lack goodwill. It
was definably anti Semitic. It just was it was. It
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was pure and utter evil. And you know, Don's a
guy who was like, you know, he's trying to parse
words and not you know, not go full frontal on like, look,
if Steven Jackson, Sean Jackson, if any of these NFL athletes.
I like with Julie Leman's like, look, dude, I get it.
You don't know this. This is obviously something that you're
not aware of. But yeah, when you start talking about Jews,
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world domination, money, et cetera, Like, that's Hitler rhetoric late
nineteen thirties, right, It's straight out of the handbook, and um,
you know the same need for a discussion that we're
supposed to have. He's like, look, you're talking about equality,
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Like you can't hear the hypocrisy in the equality discussion
when what you're saying about Jewish people that we are
on people that are God. So I don't. I'm just, oh,
I don't. And Showtime is the one place where they've said, hey,
(45:37):
we're not canceling him. But keep in mind he has
that he has that up in smoke, uh or what
is it all about? Something? Something about smoke? He has
the it's like a podcast on TV. That's where they've
had one season. They haven't yet filmed season two. Mark
my words. There's not gonna be a season two. It
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just wasn't. And I'm not canceled to Sean Jackson sort
of guy. I think in the world of basketball because
he's lived it, he's breathed it. He was a guy
who didn't go to college, and he fought and clawed
his way into the NBA, became an NBA champion, and
they know, yeah, by the way, he was part of
the malice of the palace, but then found a way
to hang around and get back into the good graces
of the league. And like, he's a real dude. He's
(46:20):
a real dude. But he's doing the exact thing that
we're told not to do. That he doesn't want the
police to do. Right. The whole argument for the police
is the police would say, like, look, if you look
at the numbers, a black man is more likely to
(46:43):
have committed a crime or a violent crime, and so
we handle them more physically. And black people will tell you,
like hold on now, Like part of this is the
laws are skewed against us. And because of police brutality
and some people planting things like you don't want to
be racially profiled, I get it. That's discrimination. Okay, that's
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what you're doing to Jewish people when you're discriminating against
them and making remarks or reiterating remarks that are anti
Semitic in nature that are Hitler Playbook in nature. You
just but I don't know if I don't know if
it's like one of those things where you have to
almost watch yourself on tape and have somebody freeze and
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go like, Okay, this is what you said here, and
this is what you said here, and this is what
what you're saying and what you're what it actually what
it means to everybody else you may not hear it.
It's so different than an athlete watching game tape and
going like, oh, I can't believe that I do that,
or a picture watching and they have a tell sometimes
(47:46):
you gotta watch the tape. But man, this tape continues
to get alarming, and you're just one of those like
stop talking, dude. Because I like Steven Jackson, I do,
and I don't think that if if his showtime time show,
or he doesn't get back asked on the jump, or
he's not on Fox Sports one, it's simply because like
Jewish people, we're not we're not up in arms about
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we're up in arms about the fact that anti Semitic
comments are still out there and there seemed as acceptable
and there's there are there are still hate crimes that
exist that don't get covered, uh, you know, with with
nearly the same energy as some other crimes. Those are
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more points of focus. But man, I do think that
those companies think it's not just that he's saying these things.
He doesn't either know that they're offensive or he's not
willing to simply apologize and go I didn't know what
I said. I I completely misunderstood the ramifications of what
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I was reading, what I was saying, and what I
was thinking. I just I need to educate myself on it,
and that would be okay, that would be okay saying
you don't know, Like man, I don't know. I don't
know what I I read something once a by the
roth Child thing and I didn't know I was wrong.
I'm sorry, my bad. Pat Ford is gonna join us
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You know there's um there's something to the field that
you go into. You know, there's something to the field
that you go into. I got a friend of mine
who's two tells who you know, we had journalism programs
all the time, and I do zoom chats. I'm actually
after this show, I'm doing a zoom for a friend
(49:58):
of mine who's an assistant coach. And Chris McMillen's an
assistant coach at Idaho State University and Poka Tel Idaho.
They're entering their second year and he asked me, can
you do a zoom chat for our players, because this
is how we we have guest speakers and like. And
I've done this for journalism programs as well. And one
of the things I tell people like, you're I didn't
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go to a journalism school. I have great respect for
the best journalists. I just so we realize it is
a hard, hard degree to make money. You know, like
feels it feels like finance. Um, I like marketing better.
It was a marketing major, you know, finance marketing. Obviously
(50:41):
you can go into pre law, premed um, there's computer
science just feels just feels smarter for the twenty first
century and beyond. Then journalist. Journalism is like a passion project.
Most guys don't make any money. And I know that.
You see some of the top earners in the field,
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Colin and Skip bayliss And and stephen A and someone,
and you're like, man, that could be meat. Like those
are the select few, whereas the you know, so many newspapers,
great journalists and newspapers and even online periodicals are getting stipped.
It's like, man, if you can still be a writer
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and not have a journalism degree. I'm not taking shots
in journalists and degree. I'm just telling you that what
the it does feel like a field where man getting
a job, I paid jobs is hard, Just like going
to be a teacher. You have an educational background. You know,
if you want to teach and you want to make
some legit money, there are ways to do so. But
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like going into the school system, it takes years and
years and years and years and a lot of hard work.
And you can say, well, I get summers off and
if I don't get summers off, and then I can
make Like, Okay, you're not going into a field that's
gonna make a lot of money. I do you remember
when we were kids, Ramos and I are about the
(52:06):
same age. Buyers a little bit younger than I am.
Um and Buyer grew up in a small town, So
I don't know if this is applicable by your your town.
We talked about it in Wisconsin yesterday about how many
people lived there. Okay, the richest guy in town. When
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you're a kid, what do you do for living? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
the doctor in town. Doctors and to an extent, lawyers
were those are all my dad's a doctor. Oh you're rich.
That's what we all thought. I remember that the doctors.
And now listen out of the bank or the doctor
(52:51):
where you look. The head of the bank still can
do pretty well. But now it's the guy who owns
all the land in town, or a guy who you
know you have, um, you know, a micro business out
of your garage where you you know, you sell things online,
or I mean, look, the people who make the most
money now going to finance. Right, what we used to
(53:15):
make the money was used to be the doctors used
to make the money, and then there's the lawyers made
the money. Now it's the finance guys to make the money.
That's the way the NFL has trended. That's why it is,
you know, um and I would have I would equate
finance guys two quarterbacks. Quarterbacks always made a good amount
of money, but the running back was the doctor. And
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now you have wide receivers making twenty million year and
that doors what running backs are making. I bring this
up because Rahee Mostert is a talented running back with
the San Francisco forty Niners. Earlier this offseason, the forty
Niners traded Matt Brita to the Miami Dolphins. The other
running backs on the team's rosters Tevin Coleman, who of
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course played for Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta, Jeff Wilson, and
Jerick McKinnon, who hasn't played the last uh two seasons
because of knee injuries. So you're left with right He Mostert,
who had said he wanted to be traded because he
want a new contract. But really what he's fighting is
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I mean, one, he signed a contract extension a year ago.
He signed a contract extension. That contract extensions three years,
nine million dollars. He's been cut six times in his
young NFL career. Now I'm not telling you I don't
think he's a tremendous player. He led them in rushing
last year. He's of their running backs. He uh was
(54:43):
the only one to play all sixteen games because they
split time. He only had a hundred and thirty seven carries.
He had seven hundred seventy two yards for five point
two yards to carry. He scored eight touchdowns. If you
pro rate that. Okay, so sixteen games, hundred and thirty
two d thirty two attempts and he had seven hundred
(55:05):
and seventy yards or so, right, so so pro rate
that a little bit. You compare that too. I don't
know Nick Chubb, who was second in rushing in the
Nation Football League last year. He had uh two hundred
and attempts and average five point two yards to carry.
In other words, mostert has to be sitting there thinking
(55:26):
to himself, like, look, if I had twice the number
of carries, I would have twice the number of yards.
That's how you worked for your pro rate things. And
if I had twice the number of yards and I
rush from yards, I get my contract torn up. But
I'm making Derrick Henry money or I'm making Christian McCaffrey money.
That's not actually the way it works. I don't think
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the niners will or should trade. He's under contract for
two more years because we found you on the street
on the cheap. It's our fault that we signed you
early to an extension and you overachieved. That's not the
way the world actually works, dude. The big story is
what your major is in college. The big story is
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you pursued. You pursued a position that it's not being eliminated.
It's not like the fullback being eliminated, but it's one
that has been marginalized in terms of its value. Doctors
still make a good amount of money, but because they
have to carry so much insurance and takes so long
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to become a doctor, it's like doctors aren't killing it
the way they used to. They still do quite well,
like running backs can still do quite well, like Christian McCaffrey.
Like that's a big time deal. But other positions have
passed them by wide receivers passed them by. Why does
your pass them by? Left tackle? Passed them by? Quarterback
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was always right there. Now quarterback obviously has completely zoom
pass him. Running Back still a good way to make
a living. But you know, we had Daniel Jeremiah yesterday.
You know how do you build a football team you
can drive to running back, just never give him a
second contract. Their careers are shorter, and though they're filled
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with some glory, they're eminently and completely and totally replaceable.
And why get one when you can get three or four.
If one goes down, when you have three or four,
it's not that hard to find another one. When one
goes down, you only have one big name running back,
you are screwed when that guy goes down. Moistert's desires
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to have more carries to make more money is reasonable.
The problem is that John Lynch shouldn't get punished for
finding a guy on the cheap, discovering a guy and
allowing him to have the most success of his career.
He should be rewarded. And the only way to be
roared is make you play out that contract. So, I mean,
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the other mistake is Moistert essentially doing the pro rated thing,
which which most many of us do. Amen. Look at
my ratings and radio you put me on earlier in
the day when I'm in this market, in that market,
I'd have twenty. I'd have double those ratings. Same thing
can go for basketball. People always just per forty eight.
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But she didn't play forty eight minutes. You know. We
were talking about this, uh with a friend of mine yesterday,
Terry Rogier, and how well he played for the Boston Celtics,
Like yeah, Like for the most part with the Celtics,
he was a sixth or sometimes even their fourth guard.
So when he came in, he was playing against bench players.
To play against bench players and you light them up,
and you know, you don't have to focus on all
(58:36):
the little things, and you're gonna have yourself statistically an
awesome time. He goes to the Charlotte Hornets where he's
the point guard, and he struggles why because now he's
playing against a hard level of competition, hard level of competition,
So you can't do you couldn't do the per forty eight,
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you know, with a guy who was playing. If you're
a sixth man in the NBA, you're playing against the
other teams six man, you're playing against the other team's
backups for the most part, and they're not as good
as the starters. People are starters for a reason. The
bore backups for a reason. By the way, this from
Lee Steinberg, who of course is Pat Mahomes agent. Sign
(59:22):
Pat mahomes the biggest deal in the history of sport.
The NFL, in general, is the worst way for a
player to facilitate a trade. In general, the worst way
for a player to facilitate a trade is to go
public with demand. Other teams know the players unhappy and
low ball and trade offers puts current team up against
the wall. Totally agree, Totally agree. That's speaking out of
(59:43):
frustration and it's not only unprofessional, but it it actually
does hurt your value. And what happens with the San
Francisco forty Niners was even if they thought they might
want to trade him and move on now, because they'd
only get he's on the dollar back for rahemo stt,
I don't think they trade him and move on. Up next,
(01:00:06):
we'll get you back to the story of the day
regarding massive changes in college sports. Plus we'll speak with
Jeff ziglert Uh from the US from USA today about
the NBA bubble. How will teams actually perform under quarantine?
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and of course you can also download the podcast. Man,
we got so many different ways in which, uh, in
which you can listen to our show. I were, um,
we're getting ready for the NBA A season to get
back underway. Teams are arriving in Orlando, Florida. Uh. Many
of them have been quarantined themselves. I have friends in
(01:08):
the NBA who haven't we have we got together with
once or twice and then they were told by their
teams to shut it down because they had to be
in quarantine to make sure they didn't test positive, test
positive gets sent home. But we're getting ready for it,
and I do think that there's a bigger topic. On
a smaller remark, here's the topic. NBA analyst Kenny Smith
(01:31):
made up his top ten players Listen ranked Lebron James tenth.
This is all time tent, despite being much lower than
the consensus um escape Bayliss from from Fox Sports said
that listing Lebron at number ten isn't too far from
where he would personally rank him. Now, look, it's interesting.
(01:56):
I'm somebody who has who has been seen as Lebron
hater because once upon a time I had a list
of of my top players of all time, and because
I didn't have Lebron number one or even number two,
I was called a hater. And keep in mind that
basketball has been around a long time. We take the
(02:17):
modern era of basketball, if we go since really the nineties,
you're talking about forty years, and there's a list of
guys that I think you have to put in that conversation.
I believe Magic, I believe Bird, obviously, Jordan's Um, there's
Kobe there, Shack, and then of course when you start
(02:39):
to go historically, there are others like Kareem abdul Jabbar,
there's World Chamberlain, there's Elgin Baylor, Jerry west Uh and
of course Bill Russell. So look, look, I'll just tell
you my general practice is I don't I the rankings thing.
(03:00):
I don't know. I feel like rankings for anything is
a lot like the rankings for college basketball. The only
thing that really matters is who's ranked number one? And
are you actually ranked in the top twenty five, right,
because when you're playing I remember playing college basketball, if
you're ranked in the top twenty five, your highlights are
on every time you play. Your names in the paper,
(03:22):
your highlights, your your scores are in the paper in
every paper every time you play. And now, obviously as
we've moved to websites and digital top twenty five teams,
still it's still the same with your thirteen or the
nineteen or your twenty four. As long as you're not
twenty six, you're in the top twenty five. That's a
good thing. Being ranked is a good thing, and being
ranked number one outside that and nothing else matters. But
(03:44):
I'm not I think Kenny Smith's point is a really
good one, which is, hey, let's be honest, not only
is the game change and become a more offensive game.
So the stats are completely skewed. If you don't think
the stats are skewed, I I have one player that
(04:05):
points out just how much easier it is to obtain stats.
And while you're still a great player, you're not as
great as your stats would tell you. You ready for it,
Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook isn't in the top fifteen as
a passer in the NBA. He's not. And you can
(04:27):
sit here and tell me how many assists the average
and the average double digit assistant. That's fine. I might
know might not know a ton about mutual funds. I
don't know a lot, even in terms of sports, about
how hockey offense, defense, red zone trap. I don't know
(04:48):
how those things work. About passing up basketball pretty well equipped.
This is a conversation that I'm more equipped to have
than all of you combined. No, the it is disrespectful
if you think, but I know it for a fact.
If I pulled everyone of our listeners or every one
of the millions downloads on the All Ball podcast, I
(05:12):
would say that we're starting to get to what I
know about basketball. He's not. He's also not a great rebounder.
He's a great he's a good rebounding guard, but he's
not a great rebounder. And while he's a fantastic overall
player and score, not a particularly good shooter, but he's
because of the volume of touches, the pace of play,
(05:35):
the way in which defense and and and and teams
have evolved, essentially taking power forwards out of the game,
opening up the paint completely with centers that can shoot
or centers that are simply pick and roll guys. We
went from not having a guy average a triple double
for forty years to Russell Russell Westbrook averaging it three
(05:59):
years in a row. Either Russell Westbrook is one of
the five greatest players of all time or the stats
are completely skewed to to make it look like he's better,
which is fine. I mean that this happens in college football.
Now they run ten to fifteen to twenty more plays
than they've ever run before. And when you run more plays,
(06:20):
you'll crew more yards. I mean you crew more yards.
You'll also score more touchdowns. But if you don't like it,
how does everybody have? It's the same thing in the NFL.
How do we go from ten years ago you had
one or two four thousand yard passers too, and now
you have ten four thousand yard passers, Like I'm willing
to believe that Lamar Jackson maybe the fastest quarterback we've
(06:41):
ever had. How does that offense dominate Why? Well, because
people set their defenses two different styles of offense, and
so even though they may think they know how to
stop Lamar Jackson, they just don't have the personnel. And
you can't change personnel week to week. So, circling back
(07:02):
to basketball, Lebron james dominance statistically has helped out remarkably
by how basketball is played, by how rosters are constructed,
by how the game is officiated. The best example of
that is Lebron James is not a score by trade.
(07:26):
He can really score, and he's made himself into a
fantastic shotmaker, but by his own estimation, he would much
rather set somebody up than he would make the shot himself.
That's his own words. Yet he could go down and
very well might go down as the NBA's all time
scoring leader. What does that tell you? You have other
(07:48):
guys like career abdulger Bar that all they did was score,
and yeah, he olds the all time mark. If he
gets surpassed by a guy who well wasn't his intent,
it shows you how there's more possessions. The three point
shot obviously, um changes the value of every possession. Combine
that with the dominant ball handling of whoever the lead
(08:09):
guy is, and it's been Lebron James through every team
that he's been on, and there you have his statistical dominance,
more and more and more, more and more offense less
in terms of defense and physicality, and guys meeting you
to clog the lane, and his style of basketball, essentially
playing bullyball, does in fact work, and the stats become skewed. Now,
(08:33):
the flaw in Kenny Smith's argument is that it's he's
not just a statistical freak his team has. In fact,
one the flaw in the his team's win and get
the NBA Finals is when he went to the Miami Heat,
he destroyed two playoff teams in the Raptors and the Calves,
(08:54):
taking their best players with him him and Um and
Chris Bosh, and then pulled the final like chair out
from under the Boston Celtics by taking Ray Allen after
he'd been there for a year and you had very
little competition, right, The toughest he was pushed was an
over the hill Celtics team that didn't have Ray Allen
(09:16):
that had gone through a change, or the Indiana Indiana
Pacers that had a young Paul George and Roy Hibbert
was their go to guy. Like there, it had he
lost in any of those Eastern Conference finals or semifinal series,
it would have been a massive upset. Let's not act
like it wasn't expected, not just because Lebron but because
(09:39):
the lack of talent in the East. But if your
argument is if you're Kenny Smith, is if we go
by stats, he's only tenth overall, that's fine. The problem
is he's also won a whole hell of a lot
of games. He's gotten to all those NBA finals, and
even though he's three and eight in those NBA finals,
one of those three was in the conversation of greatest
(09:59):
come acts in the history of the sport. But but
Kenny Smith's argument is a good one. It's one that's
made by a lot of old school NBA guys. Please
stop with the look at his stats. Stats are deceiving.
Case in point, Russell Westbrook three straight years of a
triple double, and Russell Westbrook isn't in the conversation of
(10:20):
the best pastors ever. And and while he's a good rebounder,
he gets a greater volume of rebounds because there's more
shots being taken and more three pot shot three point
shots being taken, which is more long rebounds for your
point guard. Sports are being made easier to score on offense,
easier to look good because of your stats, and Lebron
(10:43):
James benefits greatly from that. Does that take away from
his greatness? I don't think so. I think ten is
a little bit low. But I also think that it's
hard to tell and compare eras, especially this era, considering
it's not just the the officiating, it's also the personnel
and the volume of possessions. Coming up next, Jim Harbaugh
(11:04):
isn't ready to press cancel on the college football season,
but should he give you my thoughts next, be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio ah app Doug
gott Leave Show Fox Sports Radio brand. Whilliam's gonna join
(11:24):
us twenty five after the hour, Well, ask him about
how a locker room works in terms of discussions about
race and religion, etcetera, etcetera. Plus I want to ask
him about learning new offenses and how long it takes
somebody like a like a Cam Newton, Pat forty will
join us next hour, So Pat forty and the question
(11:46):
becomes and I want to get into this. You know
Stanford cut Was it eleven sports yesterday? And it should
be pointing out Stanford at thirty six varsity sports? Stanford,
which which boasts they have more national champions seen anybody. Yeah,
it's because you have more sports than anybody. And when
you're willing to have varsity sports like fencing and heavyweight rowing.
(12:07):
I didn't know why heavyweight rowing and light it was
their lightweight rowing. The heavyweight rowing was cut. What about
the lightweight rowing? Why do why is this is this
fat shaming? Is that what I'm kidding? Of course, we'll
get into the Stanford thing. We'll ask pad for you
about just how how tough it appears to be for
UH college athletics in the upcoming year. Speaking of college athletics,
(12:29):
is Jim Harball, head coach of Michigan on a zoom
call yesterday explaining why football needs to happen this fall.
If it comes to a point in time where you
know we can't play, you know, it's obvious, it's clear,
then everybody would be reasonable and know that that was
the right thing to do. But covid is is part
of our society. Wasn't caused by football or caused by sports.
(12:51):
And there's no expert view right now that I'm aware of.
These kids have to do the same thing. You know,
they've got to go to school, they're training their whole
lives for the opportune unity to play their to play
their sport. And that's my view. With the knowledge that
we have, it would be my responsibility or responsibility and
the player's responsibility also you know, keep themselves safe, and
(13:12):
also you get the schooling and the training that they need. Yeah,
there there's some There's an interesting sentence or two in
there right where he's like, you know, to my knowledge,
football or sports didn't cause this. I don't think anybody
said he caused it. I know what he's getting at.
He's getting at, are you more likely to spread it?
Or does does it spread it more? And it's really
(13:35):
hard to figure out what's what the numbers continue to
go up. I see us are filling up, although we
don't really have a control group, right, we don't have
anybody telling us. Okay, I see us are reaching or
at capacity. But are they normally at capacity at this
time of year? Or is that? Is this wrong? Is
(13:56):
you know, like, what what percentage of capacity is normal?
How much over normal above normal? Are we will that
settle down? The death numbers aren't aren't high, They're actually
lower than they have have been. On the other hand,
should we be celebrating that when you know, if you
get a bad case of COVID, your lungs become like
Swiss cheese. It's extremely difficult. But I also think that EI,
(14:23):
there has to be a little bit of reality of why.
The same reason, the same reason that schools don't want
to have kids in class, and this is really Clay
was on yesterday with us and he's agreeing with the
president having kids is the same reason that college athletics
and and you know, colleges don't want to have students
on campus. Nobody wants to get sued. Nobody wants to
(14:45):
get sued in the rare case. In the rare case
that you have um, the one COVID case where a
kid gets really sick and it changed his life, or
I mean somebody actually dies. You're you're gonna get your
pants suit off because you've been warned time and again
(15:06):
about having kids, uh, you know, on campus but maintaining
social distancing. But the fact that there is no no
cure to this point. So I I just the reason
you can't have kids in schools in you know, in
classrooms across the country is all it takes is one grandma,
(15:30):
one grandpa, one parent to get sick, to blame the school,
to sue the school. And now of a sudden, you're
talking about lawsuits that you could have multiple lawsuits where
people have class action lawsuits or whatever, and you hit
these school districts which already cast trapped to begin with,
now additionally cash trapped because they haven't they haven't had
(15:53):
school event students. If you don't have students, you don't
get paid. Then you factor in you could get sued
because of sending people people into a cauldron that has
COVID nineteen. That's why people won't do it. Yeah, I know,
he wants football back. He's Jim Harbaugh's classic football guy,
(16:17):
which is great, and I don't necessarily think he's wrong.
If your health is at risk, if you're over the
age of sixty five, then you would have to step away.
The problem with it becomes the athlete, the one athlete
that gets really, really sick from it, the one athlete
that brings it home to mom or to Grandma or
Grandpa that they that's the ones you're worried worried about.
(16:38):
Let's get you to Dan Buyer and find out what
else is going on dB what he got Doug on
the heels of all of that. Nicole Auerbach of The
Athletic is reporting that an official announcement is expected later
today that the Big Ten will go to a conference
only schedule in college football for the season. There were
some rumors circulating yesterday that this could be a possibility,
a ten game schedule maybe for the Big Ten, but
(17:00):
again the Athletic reporting that the Big Ten will play
a conference only football schedule in the fall. That would
eliminate one of the biggest matchups, if not the biggest
matchup in non conference football. Ohio State was sent to
travel to Oregon in September. Some news from the NFL
Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman invited Eagle's Wande receiver to
Sean Jackson to the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington,
(17:20):
d C. In a post on Instagram, Edelman, who was
Jewish Jewish, said quote, I know he said some ugly things,
but I do see an opportunity to have a conversation.
It's really hard to see the challenges of community can
face when you're not part of it. So what we
need to do is I need to listen, we need
to learn, we need to act, We need to have
(17:40):
those uncomfortable conversations if we're gonna have real change. Nashville
I s C withdrew from the m L s Is
Back Tournament following multiple positive COVID name teen tests from players.
Tiger Woods will make his first start since the coronavirus
shutdown when he plays in Jack Nicholas's tournament, The Memorial
next week at Muirfield Village. Murefield Village this week coasting
the Work Day Charity Open. Adam Hadwin has the lead
(18:03):
after a round of sixty six today puts him at
six under par. Hideki matsu Yama in a time for
second at five under Phil Mickelson moving up the leaderboard.
He has two shots back at four under par through
eight tolls Doug Back to You, Doug Otlip Show, Fox
Sports Radio. UM. In addition to being a starting quarterback
with Browns, with the Cowboys and with the Texans, he
(18:26):
was starting quarterback in Oklahoma State and they won the
Fiesta Bowl over Andrew Lux Stanford Cardinal. He's Brandon Wade
and he joined us in the the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Brandon's breaking news that that the Big
Ten is said to announce that they are knocking They're
gonna have no non conference conference only schedule. What's your reaction?
(18:46):
You know, I know rounding every raised a big topic
obviously football, and that was one of the things that
you know, I thought that was a legit possibility, and
I thought, you know, now you can maybe start a
little bit later in the year. You don't have those
games early and early in September. So yeah, I mean,
you know, as long as there's football, I'm I'm all
for it. I I think it's good. I mean, I
(19:08):
know that you know, some of these smaller schools that
go on the road or have these big, you know programs,
I know it's a big money maker for him. But
you know these times are different. So, uh, you know,
I think it's a good, good solution. You know, hopefully
hopefully every conference decides to do it. Um, I think
that gives an opportunity, you know when you still get
nine or ten games in for the most part, and
(19:28):
you know, you still still get football. So I'm all
for it. I think it's uh, it's a good solution.
Hopefully everybody kind of falls in line with that Doug
Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um it it
has to make it in addition to financially, it makes
the whole season different, right like when you don't have
(19:48):
anybody else to kind of your year. You guys won
the one the Fiesta Bowl, right, Um, who who do
you open the season with? I think of that year
was Louisiana Lafayette, So I think you know, they came
to still Water and you know, I don't know now
that I'm here to thinking about. I mean, it is
(20:09):
tough because you know, now you're jumping right in the
conference game and not to sound ruby, you know, as
a as a big time you know, as a as
a Power five conference, if you're Alabama or you're whoever
may be. You know, you don't get those those cupcake
tip games that you're expected to win. You know, now
you're going right into the conference and you know you're
playing teams are they're legit, you know, contenders or have
(20:29):
a chance to be, especially you know in the A
c S there in the SEC and even Big Ten.
I mean they're all they're all got good teams now.
So yeah, I mean, you know, we opened with Lafayette
UM and we didn't play great. I mean, you're not
to rush off. I've been going to get yourself for
the last five or six weeks and you finally get
to play another team and it's just different. So it
takes you, you know, a game or two to kind
of kind of kind of getting a rhythm. And you know,
(20:50):
with this schedule, you don't have the you don't have
the luxury of doing that. Yeah. I mean, like look,
if I if I remember back right, you played Louisiana Lafayette,
then you played Arizona lay him at home, and then
you played Tulsa on the road, and then you had
A and M on the road, which is a great game. Uh.
Tannehill was the quarterback there, right, and you went in
(21:11):
and beat him thirty to twin and I was an
amazing I was impressive win to go on the road.
But like, can you imagine if you open your season
with that game. Granted we don't know if there's stands
in the stands, well, there's a lot we don't know,
But how different is the season if you cut out Louisiana,
Lafayette and Tulsa and even Arizona where you can figure
some stuff out, and you open on the road at
(21:31):
at A and M. It's tough. I mean, especially if
you have to go on the road. I think you know,
if you're playing at home, you know, it gives you
a little bit of an advantage, I would say, but
it's tough. I mean, like I said, you go through
training camp, you scrimmage yourself, you're prepared, you know, those
last couple of weeks of training camp for that for
that opener um. But if you again, if you're if
you're jumping right into it and you're playing on a
(21:53):
really good team, I mean, if you're let's go let's
say Tennessee, and you've gotta go play whoever Georgia or
whoever it may be. You know, and you've got to
go to Athens and play. I mean that's tough right
out of the box, and so you know that's um.
But again I think, you know, we're getting little nitpicky
because you know, because everybody and everybody has to go
through the same thing, and yeah, I mean it becomes yeah,
(22:14):
I totally understand. Hey, let me let me get to
this Cam Newton thing. Okay, so Cam, it was just
downs yesterday's part of the Patriots. Okay, So what's real?
How does it actually work? You go to a new team.
This has happened to you two times over, right, You
go to a new team, new offense, new verbiage. What's
the process like of learning? Every They send you just
(22:36):
a playbook in the mail, Like how does it work?
Usually you know that the first day you get in there,
the thell issue an iPad um. Some teams just depending
on the team, you know, some guys prefer iPad some
guys prefer the thick notebook, you know where you can
write handwritten notes, and everybody's different, but they give you both,
so you get get you get a true playbook. And
(22:57):
then basically what you do is most teams do it.
They break it down and usually into ten install. So
you know, let's say day one install is let's say, um,
these eight inside zone runs or you know whatever inside
outside zone, and you know these these quick game passes,
maybe the there's probably the let's say eight to ten
(23:19):
quick game type passes. Then you have your thirty drop
backs and you play actions. So that's that's day one.
So you're learning those on day one, the first day
you get in there. Well, come day too, now it's
another now and maybe you know your counter power runs
and then that you're um, you know, intermediate type passes
of play action passes, and then you have another um
(23:40):
drop backs. So that just goes on and on and
on for ten days. So as a as a player
that doesn't really isn't in the system a whole lot.
I mean, after day one you gotta go back and
study day one stuff because you know you won't run
it again for another tenor eleven days. So it's a
it's just a process. It takes time. It's hard, you know,
it's it's it's I'm an underrated thing, you know, and
(24:01):
up we've talked about it, but you know, going from
one system to another is is very challenging. And I
mean i was playing. I played golf with tim or Tay,
the new quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma State, and my business
partner was riding the golf car with me, and we
were talking ball and they're like. He was like, man,
it sounds like you guys are speaking another language. You
guys are just like and I said, man, that's just
simple basic football. So it's you know, when you come
(24:24):
into a new system, you just gotta adapt and learn
that that terminology and ba's what you gotta do is
turn you know, let's say it's I don't know, whatever
the play is, you've probably ran that place somewhere else.
You just gotta kind of put the burbage and piece
it all together that way. It's just it's not easy.
There's a lot, especially as a quarterback. You got a
lot of your plate um. You know. One thing that
people want to talk about too is shoot just the
(24:45):
operation getting in the huddle, calling play gets a lot
of screaming and making a mic point um. You know.
The cadence, I mean, there's several different cadences, you know,
dummy cadences. I mean, there's just so much that they mean.
When you're used like a guy like camp he's been
playing Carolina for a long time. He's been in that
Digit system. Now he's going to New England in a
completely different system. It's gonna take time. It's not gonna
(25:05):
happen overnight. Um, it's a it's a lot more detailed
system that than what he used to Okay, so so
you've used digit system before and you did break it
down for us once previously, but in indulgees one more
time because not everybody hears you every week and or
or downloads the pod when we have you on Brandon
We and our guests in the Doug Gottlip Show on
(25:26):
Fox Sports Radio. Norv Turner coached you for a year
with Cleveland Brown's. That that's the digit system, right, that
was the North Turner system. That was that Carolina was
using last What is the digit system? Yeah. So fortunately
when after NorVa, I went to Dallas and we were
in the same system, so I was able to be
in that that system for three years. It's a very
quarterback and receiver friendly system. So basically the formations are
(25:51):
broken down by t S, d S and S TASER
your trips formations, so three bottle one formations, your d
S or your double formations, so by two your apps
or your your flanks, so the tight ends are usually
on the same side and it flips depending on personnel
that flips the receivers and a kind of a slot formation.
So that's that's kind of the deal with the formation.
(26:11):
So you're kind of limited to a certain extent on
how many formations you can do. You can shift and
do certain things, but basically, if you're in a three
bottle one formation, balls on the left, hash three receivers
to the right, one receiver to the left, the digit
will start with the ex receiver as a single receiver
and work its way like you're reading a book from
(26:32):
left to right. And so you'll say whatever E F drag,
So X has the eight, which is a post, and
then the two is a deep cross, and then a
six and you know, sometimes it's the curl, sometimes it's
the is a square in twenty yard dig and then
you tag the F drag So the the is the
(26:53):
route concept and left right. I got it from left
to right, yeah, and so those numbers correlate with the tree,
you know, you can basically it's technically zero through nine,
nine being a god ball, eight being a post. Uh,
seven being a corner, six being a dig um by
being a comeback for being a curl, three being and
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out the traditional teaming tour of yard out um to
slant one hits and so basically you can line up
in these formations and then you say the numbers. So
it's again like I said, so trips right eight six,
so X has got the big post with the cross,
with the dig from the under, you know, you just
kind of have to learn with the Backscott he's got
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a sneak route or you can tag whatever route you
want for the back. But basically it cuts down the
bourbage because you don't have to say X dig why
cross you know, Z dig you know, see to say
track that's the play. So a lot less bourbage. Very
quarterback friendly. So these receivers when they come in, mainly
for the receivers, they can come in right away, learn
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the formation. No, we're a line up, and really the
numbers or the tag tells them the routes. It's very
very receiver friendly um and quarterback friendly because you you know,
you don't have to say as much in the huddle
and you get a lot of scrimmage and and do
those things. But it's a it's a good system. I
was probably my favorite system I played in. Um. It
just it allows you do a lot of different things.
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And let's say that they decide, hey, Kim's our guy,
we want to run some of that zone read action
some of the things that the Ravens have done. Patriots
did it when they had Jacobe Brissette for a short
period time when Brady was suspended. Obviously, Uh, if you
you look, um, when McDaniels was in Denver, they ran
some of it with Tebow as his quarterback. What is
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what is that like? What? What do you any idea
what those plays sound like when they're called? Yeah, we
did a lot of that in Houston with DeShawn in Houston,
and uh, New England run the exact same system with
Bill O'Brien coming from New England. So it's exact same system.
So whenever DeShawn got there, obviously we didn't do that
when I was there with Ostwiler or Holier or any
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of the other guys. So yeah, you know, I don't
know if I'm so sayous or now, but they call
it their Eyes program, so all their zone reach stuff.
They have several different ways to do it with motions
and you know kind of just I violation stuff with
the linebackers. But you know, they basically call a run
play and tag the word eyes to it, so it's
you know whatever, Um, I don't know, thirty four eyes,
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so you're you're running thirty four. And then for the
the eyes part is for the Sean's for the quarterback
to read that defensive end. The feast slides on a
line of scrimmage, he has ability to tuck it in.
You know, the way the blocking schemes all blocked up,
they account for the you know, the line will basically
not block the defensive end and worked up to that
SAM or will linebacker uh to create you know, basically
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lead blocker for the for the quarterback if you were
to pull it. So it's very simple. It seems very interested.
It just puts, you know, kind of the whole deal
on the quarterback. It's it's his job to read it
out and read it right. Um. But as far as
the bourbage goes, very we just call whatever run play
you want to run with it and then tag We
tagged eyes whenever I was in Let's say, that's fascinating
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because you could see like if they decided to to
change in hybrid as their system to to to make
Cam back into camp, and I just don't Just My
thing is, nobody knows his his not just his health,
but his ability to stay healthy. Right because like everybody,
if you haven't played football in a year and you've
been working out, you're gonna feel and look good. But
can you stay healthy after playing a legit game, and
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especially if they start running him, if he gets in
the game and he's taking more hits than anybody in
the last nine years in the NFL. So I think
that that part is but but but the the detail
you're providing us is fascinating in terms of what they
do if do they teach him the whole New England
system or do they break it down and and create
some sort of system like they created for Dashaun in
Houston in order to allow him to play more freely
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because he's read that defensive end probably since he was
in high school, definitely in junior college and college and
in the NFL with the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, exactly, And
the quarterback has a lot of influence, I mean especially
I'm sure it'll be the same with him, you know,
DeShawn had these plays he ran Clemson. You know a
lot of that zone read and sometimes you can run
that zone read and you can run pop type passes,
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play action type passes off of that, and so you
know that a lot of that kind of depends on
the quarterback and what his comfort level is with what
they're doing. Um. You know, and kind of just kind
of dawned on me when Jacoby came in and played, Um,
I was with Houston and we were in New England.
He was that was a game he played him. He
balled out, but you could tell Josh McDaniels just dialed
it up for him, you know, and and did stuff
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he was comfortable with. Josh McDaniels is a great offensive mind.
I mean, one of the best, if not one, you know,
top two or three best offensive minds of football. So
I mean he's creative and I mean he's he's a
great play caller, got a great feel for it. So
you know, once they figure out what they're good at,
what Cam likes. I mean, I don't think there's many
guys in the league as good as Josh McDaniels be
able to dill it up for him and and try
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to make him as comfortable as possible, because, like I said,
he did with Jacoby, Jacoby's a great player who came
in hadn't played much and he just he watched us
and they played. They played a pretty fallese game and
be is pretty good at third place. Awesome stuff. And
that's right that you were. You were on the Texans
that game I've forgotten because that was the game and
they ran they ran option, they ran read option, you know,
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they did they did some single wing stuff like they
just did. It was really really simple, but it's really
really smart. And my point is that defenses and and
other people have said this, I'm echoing that defenses aren't
designed even if you know how you want to stop it,
the personnel you have isn't designed for that type of offense,
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at least in the regular season, because that's not an
offense of the teams in the NFL are much more traditional,
and so you set your personnel for that. That's yeah,
that's that's from us, exactly right. I mean, you know,
especially the systems that like we're talking about with the
zone reached stuff. I mean, if you design the plays
right and you're going it's you know, there's certain teams
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you don't want to run any games. You know, guys
that are you know, defensive ends that are you know,
hard online guys, or guys who can you know, read
just good online and come back and still make a play.
I mean, there's certain defensivens you don't want, don't want
to run those plays against. But yeah, I mean the
personnel kind of makes up what they want to do.
That's just that's the cat and mouse game of the NFL.
You know, everybody kind of does the same thing to
to a certain extent. It's who's better and who's more
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polished at those things, and that's usually a team that
finds a way to win. But yeah, I think it's
it's it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out,
especially in New England. I think, like we talked last week,
it's it's a high reward with little risks as far
as the money goes. So it's gonna be it's gonna
be interesting. Who wanted on the Gulf for us? Did
Rote take money from you or do you take it
from Rite? Well, unfortunately I had a good part. I
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played awful that day. He played He beat me. I mean,
he's beating by two or three shots. So he got me.
But I have a feeling we'll play again. I need
a rematch that we uh. I went out yesterday and
I shot eleven shots better than I did when we
played on Monday. So it was it wasn't pretty as
as bad as I can hit it. I played around
this morning. There was some good. There was some bad.
The short game was awful, awful, but um, but there's
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some there. There were some there were some good moments.
There were some good moments there. So I'm gonna I'm
gonna take the good and work on the bad. In meantime,
be enjoy a hitting that hitting that little white ball
straight and far. And thanks so much for joining us, everybody.
That's the one only Brandon weed and joined us in
Doug Gotlip show on Fox Sports Radio. It's great, right,
Like I'm if you popped in mid conversation, might have
been a little hard. But did you I just learned
(34:27):
a ton about the NFL, the digits. Did you get
the digit system? Cool? Did you get about the eyes? Eyes?
What that? What that means? With with the read zone
read right where you basically call running play but then
you say eyes, what means Deshaun Watson can if you
don't want to do that, he can do whatever he
wants to do and tuck it and run the football.
It's amazing, God, he's so good at that's that's NBA
(34:49):
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without sports, but sports is creeping up on us. But
we don't know what it will look like, right, We
just we don't know. There's so much unknown, Like I
I don't I don't actually know. You know, you got
t VT going on right now, the basketball tournament. Talk
about that some upcoming but it's fascinating that that can
take place, and yet the NBA struggling seemingly to get going.
(35:35):
And I understand those guys are much more valuable but
still human beings, and they don't They have far more
resources than the basketball tournament has, so we can't take
some from it. Major League baseball getting back underway. We
have Korean baseball and uh Taiwanese baseball already being played.
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What separates us is we have collegian sports. I am
not just as a former college athlete. I'm just a
huge proponent of college athletics. I think it's amazing. My
experience mirrors many of my friends experience. We didn't. We
were in a frat, we were in a sorority. We
had our team and our teammates, and we learned so
much from the challenges of the sport, of balancing the
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sport with school and life, and the diversity of everybody,
not just diversity of in terms of skin colors or
religious backgrounds, but also just people from all over the country.
I've told my kids, like, hey, let's find what you're
good at, and let's see if we you can get
good enough where you can play in college, because it's
so much fun. It is so much fun. I got
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a little dude who thinks he's gonna be a hooper,
but he could be a baseball player. You could be
a football player. I don't know. He's good, little athlete,
pretty tough, got some potential. I have a daughter who
wants to ride horses in college and equestrian is one
of those has not been cut yet, but it's a
fairly expensive sport to maintain. Yesterday Stanford an ounce that
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they're cutting eleven sports, eleven varsity sports. That should be
pointing out and this is really important that it ain't
like Stanford had, you know, eighteen sports, and it's cutting eleven.
Now they've got to get back up over the fourteen thright,
you have to have fourteen to be at the Vision
one program. Thirty six is the most of anybody, and
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their private school a huge endowment. But Stanford, for the
longest time, their sole goal was to win more national
championships than anybody and prove that student athletes can be
students and athletes. The farmers of beautiful college campus. Man,
that's a it's like the picture of what it's supposed
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to be. Of course, it's right there in Silicon Valley.
It's really expensive. You know, they have a program where
um varsity coaches can live on campus. Because it's so
expensive to buy or rent housing in that area, arguably
the most expensive in the country. They built on campus
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housing houses for the college coaches. So they kind of
eleven sports Yesterday and if that doesn't signify. And I
understand like men's and women's fencing and some of these sports.
They did credit volleyball, they won about volleyball and national championships.
They cut wrestling, wrestling and always kind of seems to
get the shaft um. They cut something called heavyweight rowing.
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I wasn't sure that there was a lightweight rowing that survived.
I don't know, but we're gonna break all this down
with Pat forty. To me, what's most interesting is what
do we look like? What what does sports look like
when we come out of this? What does it looks
like we come out of this? You know, how much
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does it have? And and to people who want to
use the endowment, understand that usually seventy every school is differ,
but the endowment can't be touched for athletics. Most things
are earmarked for something else. And colleges are preparing to
lose massive amounts of money. One you won't if you
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don't have students on campus, you're not gonna be able
to make money on room, on board and everything else
that they make money in too. If you don't have
students on campus, you're gonna lose. There'll be a lot
of kids take the year off, and then you lose
money in that terms, that tuition. And then if you
don't have college football games, you don't have outings, you
don't have musical you know, you don't have concerts orchestra concerts,
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whatever you can bring alumni back, your donations are going
to be down. He guy, I wouldn't touch the I
wouldn't touch the endowment unless I had to. Anyway, you
don't know how much money you're gonna lose. And those
are all money losers. And maybe this is hey where
college sports was. It's likely where college sports was going anyway.
But when Stanford starts cutting sports, private school, well funded,
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you need to perk up your ears and pay attention.
Need to perk abers and pay attention. All right, here,
here's what we're gonna do. Um. Stephen Jackson tried to
explain himself on CNN. Now, I want to get a
thorough I want to I want to make a thorough
listen of what he tried to say. For if we
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if you're if you recall and you've been listening to
Sean Jackson posted a fake Hitler quote on Instagram three
days ago. I guess two days ago, and then three
days ago and then two days ago. It was roundly
discussed and though there was very limited criticism of the
(40:49):
actual post, the one guy who went onto his I
G Live and actually supported it was Stephen Jackson, and
then even Jackson yesterday went onto his I G Live
and continued to support it. Last night he went on CNN.
This is what he had to say with Don lemon
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in sort of apologizing for what he said. Why would
you feel the need to co sign something that that
was not positive? That's what people don't understand, especially after
all the goodwill that you inspired and created after George Floyd?
Why would you even wade into this? I'm gonna tell you,
(41:34):
just like I told him, nice try, I've been out
of fighting for justice for equality, and I was speaking
on equality. Why they wasn't havling Cooper and de Shaun
Jackson any other way? Like I said, they can twisted
how they want to. You didn't hear you. Didn't hear
a word on my mom saying I hate you. You
didn't hear a word on my mom saying I'm supported hitman.
They can twist it how they want. I don't hate nobody.
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I've been standing up for everybody. I'm gonna continue to
and and that's just the end of it. Yeah, look
I did. He never said he hated Jews. That's important.
And just so you know, I don't hate Steven Jackson.
I I've just it's almost like, but you need to
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go back and listen to yourself and understand why. I
really think he might not understand what he in fact
was saying. And and look what what what the criticism
would be of me saying this is, well, here you go,
you're a white guy, single black guys dumb. I think
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Steven Jackson actually has an incredible amount of intelligence, street smarts.
It's got a great feel, okay. And we've had him
on the show, I've been with him on TV shows,
on on FS one, you know. And I don't think
he's a I don't think he's a dumb fella. But
I think in this particular case, he either is totally
(42:59):
uneducated on the background of of anti Semitism, which is
a distinct possibility, or he's not actually smart enough in
this particular avenue to be discussing things, because it's mind
blowing that he wouldn't understand you don't have to say
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you hate Jews when you say that Jews own all
the banks, which is not true, and that nothing de
Sean Jackson said was wrong, and that nothing he said
was untrue. You're going into an old like Roman Nazi
anybody who's hated Jews playbook, right, Like that's you're actually
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reading chapter in verse anti Semitism propaganda one oh one.
And I get that there are a lot of people
who don't know, don't understand. It's okay, it's actually okay.
It's actually a thing that of that intelligent people do
sometimes go, you know, I actually don't know this. What
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was the expression I always uses? Smart people are smart
enough to know what they don't know. And I don't
know if Steven Jackson smart enough to know what he
doesn't know. By the way, Don Lemon asked an awful question.
What he said wasn't mean, it didn't lack goodwill. It
was definably anti Semitic. It just was it was. It
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was pure and utter evil. And you know, Don's a
guy who was like, you know, he's trying to parse
words and not you know, not go full frontal on like, look,
if Steven Jackson, Sean Jackson, if any of these NFL athletes.
I like with Julie Leman's like, look, dude, I get it.
You don't know this. This is obviously something that you're
not aware of. But yeah, when you start talking about Jews,
(44:55):
world domination, money, et cetera, Like, that's Hitler rhetoric late
nineteen thirties, right, It's straight out of the handbook, and um,
you know the same need for a discussion that we're
supposed to have. He's like, look, you're talking about equality,
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Like you can't hear the hypocrisy in the equality discussion
when what you're saying about Jewish people that we are
on people that are God. So I don't. I'm just, oh,
I don't. And Showtime is the one place where they've said, hey,
(45:37):
we're not canceling him. But keep in mind he has
that he has that up in smoke, uh or what
is it all about? Something? Something about smoke? He has
the it's like a podcast on TV. That's where they've
had one season. They haven't yet filmed season two. Mark
my words. There's not gonna be a season two. It
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just wasn't. And I'm not canceled to Sean Jackson sort
of guy. I think in the world of basketball because
he's lived it, he's breathed it. He was a guy
who didn't go to college, and he fought and clawed
his way into the NBA, became an NBA champion, and
they know, yeah, by the way, he was part of
the malice of the palace, but then found a way
to hang around and get back into the good graces
of the league. And like, he's a real dude. He's
(46:20):
a real dude. But he's doing the exact thing that
we're told not to do. That he doesn't want the
police to do. Right. The whole argument for the police
is the police would say, like, look, if you look
at the numbers, a black man is more likely to
(46:43):
have committed a crime or a violent crime, and so
we handle them more physically. And black people will tell you,
like hold on now, Like part of this is the
laws are skewed against us. And because of police brutality
and some people planting things like you don't want to
be racially profiled, I get it. That's discrimination. Okay, that's
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what you're doing to Jewish people when you're discriminating against
them and making remarks or reiterating remarks that are anti
Semitic in nature that are Hitler Playbook in nature. You
just but I don't know if I don't know if
it's like one of those things where you have to
almost watch yourself on tape and have somebody freeze and
(47:25):
go like, Okay, this is what you said here, and
this is what you said here, and this is what
what you're saying and what you're what it actually what
it means to everybody else you may not hear it.
It's so different than an athlete watching game tape and
going like, oh, I can't believe that I do that,
or a picture watching and they have a tell sometimes
(47:46):
you gotta watch the tape. But man, this tape continues
to get alarming, and you're just one of those like
stop talking, dude. Because I like Steven Jackson, I do,
and I don't think that if if his showtime time show,
or he doesn't get back asked on the jump, or
he's not on Fox Sports one, it's simply because like
Jewish people, we're not we're not up in arms about
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we're up in arms about the fact that anti Semitic
comments are still out there and there seemed as acceptable
and there's there are there are still hate crimes that
exist that don't get covered, uh, you know, with with
nearly the same energy as some other crimes. Those are
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more points of focus. But man, I do think that
those companies think it's not just that he's saying these things.
He doesn't either know that they're offensive or he's not
willing to simply apologize and go I didn't know what
I said. I I completely misunderstood the ramifications of what
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I was reading, what I was saying, and what I
was thinking. I just I need to educate myself on it,
and that would be okay, that would be okay saying
you don't know, Like man, I don't know. I don't
know what I I read something once a by the
roth Child thing and I didn't know I was wrong.
I'm sorry, my bad. Pat Ford is gonna join us
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You know there's um there's something to the field that
you go into. You know, there's something to the field
that you go into. I got a friend of mine
who's two tells who you know, we had journalism programs
all the time, and I do zoom chats. I'm actually
after this show, I'm doing a zoom for a friend
(49:58):
of mine who's an assistant coach. And Chris McMillen's an
assistant coach at Idaho State University and Poka Tel Idaho.
They're entering their second year and he asked me, can
you do a zoom chat for our players, because this
is how we we have guest speakers and like. And
I've done this for journalism programs as well. And one
of the things I tell people like, you're I didn't
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go to a journalism school. I have great respect for
the best journalists. I just so we realize it is
a hard, hard degree to make money. You know, like
feels it feels like finance. Um, I like marketing better.
It was a marketing major, you know, finance marketing. Obviously
(50:41):
you can go into pre law, premed um, there's computer
science just feels just feels smarter for the twenty first
century and beyond. Then journalist. Journalism is like a passion project.
Most guys don't make any money. And I know that.
You see some of the top earners in the field,
(51:03):
Colin and Skip bayliss And and stephen A and someone,
and you're like, man, that could be meat. Like those
are the select few, whereas the you know, so many newspapers,
great journalists and newspapers and even online periodicals are getting stipped.
It's like, man, if you can still be a writer
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and not have a journalism degree. I'm not taking shots
in journalists and degree. I'm just telling you that what
the it does feel like a field where man getting
a job, I paid jobs is hard, Just like going
to be a teacher. You have an educational background. You know,
if you want to teach and you want to make
some legit money, there are ways to do so. But
(51:45):
like going into the school system, it takes years and
years and years and years and a lot of hard work.
And you can say, well, I get summers off and
if I don't get summers off, and then I can
make Like, Okay, you're not going into a field that's
gonna make a lot of money. I do you remember
when we were kids, Ramos and I are about the
(52:06):
same age. Buyers a little bit younger than I am.
Um and Buyer grew up in a small town, So
I don't know if this is applicable by your your town.
We talked about it in Wisconsin yesterday about how many
people lived there. Okay, the richest guy in town. When
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you're a kid, what do you do for living? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
the doctor in town. Doctors and to an extent, lawyers
were those are all my dad's a doctor. Oh you're rich.
That's what we all thought. I remember that the doctors.
And now listen out of the bank or the doctor
(52:51):
where you look. The head of the bank still can
do pretty well. But now it's the guy who owns
all the land in town, or a guy who you
know you have, um, you know, a micro business out
of your garage where you you know, you sell things online,
or I mean, look, the people who make the most
money now going to finance. Right, what we used to
(53:15):
make the money was used to be the doctors used
to make the money, and then there's the lawyers made
the money. Now it's the finance guys to make the money.
That's the way the NFL has trended. That's why it is,
you know, um and I would have I would equate
finance guys two quarterbacks. Quarterbacks always made a good amount
of money, but the running back was the doctor. And
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now you have wide receivers making twenty million year and
that doors what running backs are making. I bring this
up because Rahee Mostert is a talented running back with
the San Francisco forty Niners. Earlier this offseason, the forty
Niners traded Matt Brita to the Miami Dolphins. The other
running backs on the team's rosters Tevin Coleman, who of
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course played for Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta, Jeff Wilson, and
Jerick McKinnon, who hasn't played the last uh two seasons
because of knee injuries. So you're left with right He Mostert,
who had said he wanted to be traded because he
want a new contract. But really what he's fighting is
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I mean, one, he signed a contract extension a year ago.
He signed a contract extension. That contract extensions three years,
nine million dollars. He's been cut six times in his
young NFL career. Now I'm not telling you I don't
think he's a tremendous player. He led them in rushing
last year. He's of their running backs. He uh was
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the only one to play all sixteen games because they
split time. He only had a hundred and thirty seven carries.
He had seven hundred seventy two yards for five point
two yards to carry. He scored eight touchdowns. If you
pro rate that. Okay, so sixteen games, hundred and thirty
two d thirty two attempts and he had seven hundred
(55:05):
and seventy yards or so, right, so so pro rate
that a little bit. You compare that too. I don't
know Nick Chubb, who was second in rushing in the
Nation Football League last year. He had uh two hundred
and attempts and average five point two yards to carry.
In other words, mostert has to be sitting there thinking
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to himself, like, look, if I had twice the number
of carries, I would have twice the number of yards.
That's how you worked for your pro rate things. And
if I had twice the number of yards and I
rush from yards, I get my contract torn up. But
I'm making Derrick Henry money or I'm making Christian McCaffrey money.
That's not actually the way it works. I don't think
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the niners will or should trade. He's under contract for
two more years because we found you on the street
on the cheap. It's our fault that we signed you
early to an extension and you overachieved. That's not the
way the world actually works, dude. The big story is
what your major is in college. The big story is
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you pursued. You pursued a position that it's not being eliminated.
It's not like the fullback being eliminated, but it's one
that has been marginalized in terms of its value. Doctors
still make a good amount of money, but because they
have to carry so much insurance and takes so long
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to become a doctor, it's like doctors aren't killing it
the way they used to. They still do quite well,
like running backs can still do quite well, like Christian McCaffrey.
Like that's a big time deal. But other positions have
passed them by wide receivers passed them by. Why does
your pass them by? Left tackle? Passed them by? Quarterback
(56:51):
was always right there. Now quarterback obviously has completely zoom
pass him. Running Back still a good way to make
a living. But you know, we had Daniel Jeremiah yesterday.
You know how do you build a football team you
can drive to running back, just never give him a
second contract. Their careers are shorter, and though they're filled
(57:13):
with some glory, they're eminently and completely and totally replaceable.
And why get one when you can get three or four.
If one goes down, when you have three or four,
it's not that hard to find another one. When one
goes down, you only have one big name running back,
you are screwed when that guy goes down. Moistert's desires
(57:35):
to have more carries to make more money is reasonable.
The problem is that John Lynch shouldn't get punished for
finding a guy on the cheap, discovering a guy and
allowing him to have the most success of his career.
He should be rewarded. And the only way to be
roared is make you play out that contract. So, I mean,
(57:55):
the other mistake is Moistert essentially doing the pro rated thing,
which which most many of us do. Amen. Look at
my ratings and radio you put me on earlier in
the day when I'm in this market, in that market,
I'd have twenty. I'd have double those ratings. Same thing
can go for basketball. People always just per forty eight.
(58:15):
But she didn't play forty eight minutes. You know. We
were talking about this, uh with a friend of mine yesterday,
Terry Rogier, and how well he played for the Boston Celtics,
Like yeah, Like for the most part with the Celtics,
he was a sixth or sometimes even their fourth guard.
So when he came in, he was playing against bench players.
To play against bench players and you light them up,
and you know, you don't have to focus on all
(58:36):
the little things, and you're gonna have yourself statistically an
awesome time. He goes to the Charlotte Hornets where he's
the point guard, and he struggles why because now he's
playing against a hard level of competition, hard level of competition,
So you can't do you couldn't do the per forty eight,
(58:58):
you know, with a guy who was playing. If you're
a sixth man in the NBA, you're playing against the
other teams six man, you're playing against the other team's
backups for the most part, and they're not as good
as the starters. People are starters for a reason. The
bore backups for a reason. By the way, this from
Lee Steinberg, who of course is Pat Mahomes agent. Sign
(59:22):
Pat mahomes the biggest deal in the history of sport.
The NFL, in general, is the worst way for a
player to facilitate a trade. In general, the worst way
for a player to facilitate a trade is to go
public with demand. Other teams know the players unhappy and
low ball and trade offers puts current team up against
the wall. Totally agree, Totally agree. That's speaking out of
(59:43):
frustration and it's not only unprofessional, but it it actually
does hurt your value. And what happens with the San
Francisco forty Niners was even if they thought they might
want to trade him and move on now, because they'd
only get he's on the dollar back for rahemo stt,
I don't think they trade him and move on. Up next,
(01:00:06):
we'll get you back to the story of the day
regarding massive changes in college sports. Plus we'll speak with
Jeff ziglert Uh from the US from USA today about
the NBA bubble. How will teams actually perform under quarantine?
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