Not so fast on the "Chiefs Dynasty"

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The Daddy's back back in the house, but not bored
in the house. Send him in the house board. Nope, noope, noope, noope.
We got a lot to talk about the NBA bubble, which, Um,
I want to make sure that I point this out.
I didn't break at Russell Westbrook and James Harden had
the Rhona, but I didnt sinuate when I was on

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Cowherd Show yesterday. Anyway, Um, Pat Mahomes is uh tweeting out,
got my boy locked up at Stone Cole Jones. It's
Chris Jones. The Chiefs and started evens tackled. Chris Jones
have breached day four year extension with five million dollars
per the Cats brothers that's their agent. His agent sixty

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million dollars in total guarantees at Stone Cole Jones. Let's go.
The dynasty continues to run it back sack nation. The
general reaction after Pat Mahomes his contract, now Chris Jones
contract is how many more super Bowls can the Chiefs win?
Not one, not two, not three? Not right? Here's the

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issue that we know about the NFL. All right, Debting
to the Super Bowl really really hard. Getting back to
the super Bowl is much harder. Right, what happens after
you get to a super Bowl? What's that pat Riley

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always called a disease of me rams loss to the Patriots.
They paid Jared Goff, Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald was the
best in his position in the sport at what he does.
Todd Gurley, Brandon Cooks, a couple of injuries and they
missed the playoffs. The reason the Pats had long term
success was they just didn't overpay one player. They didn't.

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And while I would agree with anyone, and we said
it at the time that Pat Mahomes contract doesn't really
crush the team in terms of this salary cap the
first three years. Remember you're acting as if this salary
cap is going to remain and we told you it
will not. It will go down. So you look at

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Chris Jones and he's really good at what he does.
And how the Chiefs are trying to build themselves for
the future is and we get a couple of great
pass rushers, we got an awesome quarterback, we gotta protect
him with an offensive line, and then we gotta find

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mix and match of skill position players. And look, they
are helped out by the fact that Tyreek kill has
been such a knucklehead off the football field that in
spite of the fact he's a top five, top ten
talent as a whatever you want to call him. He's
a wide receiver, but they use them all over the
field that he's never going to get top dollar because

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he's always one recorded conversation or one incident from being
out of the league. But Travis Kelsey hasn't gotten paid yet,
has he that's going to happen. He's arguably the best
or second best what he does in the National Football League.
So I look at this and I'm hey, congratulations, everybody

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gets theirs and Pat Mahomes leaving a little bit on
the table for the first couple of years. Not in reality,
because he gets a hundred and three million by next March,
a d forty million total by the following March. But
in the reality of the salary cap, isn't it doesn't
actually change much this year and next year. While there's

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a change, it's only in the twenty million range, not
in the thirties or forties what he's actually getting paid.
That said, the Chiefs are trying to do what all
championships teams try to do. Hey, look, this is what
happened to the Ravens twice over. The first time the
Ravens won the Super Bowl, they had the greatest defense

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ever and all of those guys got paid, and eventually
they were capped out and they had to remake themselves.
They did. And the second time, they want to remember,
Joe Flacco got a huge contract. And I'm not sitting
here disputing anyone that says, well, Pat Mahomes is way
better than Joe Flacco. He is, but can you protect him?

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Can you stop anybody? Though the Chiefs were one were
one off sides away from going to a Super Bowl previously,
Let's be honest, they had to dramatically fix their defense
last offseason order to get back to that position. Now,
you overpay for your best pieces, and what's that everybody

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says your better draft really really well. So you miss
on a draft pick, you have a big injury, you
become top heavy, you become you know, front loaded, Like
there's there's no difference in this than the Golden State Warriors.
And the Warriors had Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and

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Draymond Green and then they once have any three games
and suddenly they lost in the NBA Finals up three
games to one of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Had they not
been able to get a Kevin Durant, that little mini
dynasty might have ended. Even getting Kevin Durant, they then
win two championships and now because of injury and contract

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being up, they had to remake themselves again. Now look
what I take two or three super bowlts, ibom the
Chiefs When I waited fifty years for just one sure. Sure,
but what's past is precedent, right, what happened previously is
precedent for what's happening now. And what's happening now is

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everybody gets paid. You know, you gotta keep drafting as
they did this year, or running backs late first, early second,
and then never give him a second contract. You gotta
find deals on defensive backs, which become harder and harder
and harder. You gotta hope that your top paid guys
that have the biggest salary cap hits don't get injured.

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That's easier with Pat Mahomes, although he did just dislocate
his kneecap last year, than it is with Chris Jones,
who like look defensive lineman offensive lineman. Guys fall unerneath
their legs all the time. I'm not saying I don't
like this deal. He's a tremendous pass pass rusher. He's
Chris Jones is awesome. Pat Mahomes is awesome. But they

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are repeating the same pattern as many championship teams before,
and maybe Pat Mahomes is just better, is just different,
is just able to rise above what no one else
is able to rise above I'm willing more than willing
to agree with that. And while the salary cap hit

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from his new contract isn't that severe, it does give
you a distinct window before it cranks up. And in
that window we believe the salary cap will actually go down,
not go up. And he and during all of this time,
you still have to hope those top paid players don't
get hurt, or you don't miss on draft picks, or

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the league doesn't change right before your eyes. So I
think it's it's a fascinating time to be a Cancie
Chief fan because like so many other teams, you're like, man,
you get greedy about winning, you fall in love with
your players, and then you sit there and go like, wait, hey,
how did the Patriots stay competitive for the last twenty years?

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Their best player, most important player, never took as much
as he could get, and they spread the money out
as much as they possibly could. And now look, in
fairness to Chris Jones, the other thing the Patriots have
done is if you've got a great player, you do
pay to keep them right. You're much better off paying

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your own guys that you know a lot about than
you are paying somebody else's guys that you really have
an incomplete, uh incomplete backstory on because he don't work
with him on a daily basis. Chris Jones signs a
mega deal, the kan City Chiefs seem to want to
run it back. It seems easy enough, and then you
ask yourself, Wait, why didn't fill it up? Why isn't

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Philadelphia been the same since they won a Super Bowl?
Why hasn't Atlanta been back since they went to the
Super Bowl one they should have won? Why we did it?
Were the Rams out of the playoffs after being one
of the young, dynamic teams in the NFL. I think
some of your answers are the same answers that are
being provided by the Kann City Chiefs today. Coming up next,

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this star quarterback in the NFL only wins games. His
former coach only loses games. That's what the narrative will
tell you. What's the truth We'll fill you in up
coming next. Be sure to catch the live edition of
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Radio app Doug ola Schuf Fox Sports Radio. Did you
know Dak Prescott's perfect quarterback he is because all Dak
Prescott does is win. He is a winner winner. That's
the narrative, right, that's the narrative. Ian Rapp report at
rap Sheet, Course and rapport NFL network UM. He's also

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MMQB right uh Ian Rapport. With a little more than
twenty four hours to go before the deadline, the Cowboys
and Dak Prescott remain dug in. No further talks are
scheduled for me and Tom Pelisaro, So barring a significant shift,
Doc is in line to bet on himself, this time
playing on a thirty one point four million dollar tag. Yes,

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he's technically betting on himself, but he's gonna make thirty
one million dollars guaranteed this year, which is a nice
little spike, good little bump, if you will. That's the
average of the top five salaries at the position UM
this year Nash Football League. That's what the franchise tag
e is. The downside of the Cowboys is that eats

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up dollar for dollar cap space. The upside is if
you stinks, they can always move on and they're not
locked into some long term deal. The Cowboys wanted five
whereas Dak wanted four. Dak wants his cake, and he
two wants to be highly paid, but then wants to

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be a free agent to play the thing again. And
they're probably not that far off. You're talking about a
couple million dollars and a year off. But what I
find fascinating about Dak Prescott is if how he plays
helps you win, why did he have his best season
as a pro and they didn't win more that's a contradiction.

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Have you ever heard people say that, you know Dak
Prescott he's a winner. Now, look, you're talking to somebody
who actually really likes Dak Prescott. Likes don't love right,
not in that elite Pat Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers Um Russell
Wilson category of quarterbacks. You know he he is in

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the model of the new age quarterback. He's athletic and
yet a thrower more than a runner, a runner, a
thrower who can run, whereas previously when he first got
to Mississippi State, he was more of a runner who
could throw. But it's not like he's crazy, pinpoint accurate.
On the other hand, it's not like he's misfiring all

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the time. He's good. He's really good, and they've supported
him with a star running back, star wide receivers, star
offensive line. But but if wouldn't it stand? A reason
is if you're a winner and you put up really
good numbers, why aren't you winning more? And you said

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it was the defense, Well, how come they didn't score
more when they're in these games against playoff caliber teams?
Teams are winning records the ones they didn't beat, right,
So I it's a direct contradiction that how Dak Prescott goes.
You know, Dak Prescott being a winner, if he's playing well,

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then you should win. Statistically, he played well last year
as they had the number one offense in the sport,
and yet they were only eight and eight last year
and their defense wasn't terrible, it wasn't great. But that's
where the stats aren't really telling. We told you this
early in the season. They opened up with the three
of the worst teams in the league, the Dolphins, the Giants,

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the Redskins. Those are bad football teams. That's why they
drafted in the top five, right, So beating up on
the bottom, loading up on stats there is that is
that's a smoke screen. That's not reality. Reality is that's good,

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that's really good, solid, But solid doesn't mean you sign
some crazy deal that is all player friendly. This is
actually more prayer player friendly than you think. Thirty one
million dollars plus what he makes out the football field.
If we have football this year, he'll clear fifty fifty
mill and then be able to do it again. But

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then you look at Jason Garrett and no one has
ever seen all of a sudden, Jason Garrett's a dope,
all right. You know, Jason Garrett only loses games. All
the games that were lost, Jason Garrett's fault, all the
games that were won. Dak Prescott's. Dak Prescott did it

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somewhere in the middle, is in fact the truth? Were
they the best coach team? No? No, he didn't actually
call plays last year. Kellen Moore was calling place for
the first time. And and look, there's some of this.
When Tony Romo was there. Where Tony Romo. When you
had a top five, top ten defense, they were legit superpower.

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When their defense stunk, it didn't no matter what Tony
Romo did. But if you listen to narratives, Dak Prescott
is a winner. Jason Garrett is a loser. When they won,
it was Dak Prescott's doing when they lost, it was
Jason Garrett's doing. The truth is that Jason Garrett's teams

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weren't good enough. He what they He isn't the greatest
coach in the world. Some of it is he's handcaffed, handicaff,
handcuffed by his owner. Some of it is he's uh
handcuffed by the personnel, somebody's handcuffed by the fact that
he didn't call a defense, and some of it is
his fault. And the same goes for Dak Prescott. So

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this whole he's a winner thing. If he was a winner,
then how do they not have how do they not win? More?
Considering statistically he had his best season of his career,
maybe there isn't a correlation. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. I want to make
sure this is really really clear. We're uh, we have

(16:22):
our own issues and furloughs and things going on in
our work. Um. And I was discussing things with a
couple of friends last night and I said, man, we
really need sports back. And one of my friends turned
to me and was like, sports back, like, dude, there's
everything else in life. Was like listen, I I can't
control we can't control everything else. But sports not only

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gives us kind of a respite from the rest of
the world, but it also provides financially, not just for
the athletes and the coaches, but for there's lots of
other people that end up benefiting financially from it. And
you know, you try and just put things together. I
don't know, I was just I thought I had yesterday.
So my thoughts go out to the Texas Rangers other

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baseball employees. When you don't have people in the stands,
there's just you're not needed. You're not needed. Kevin Clark
joins us. He works for The Ringer. He does a
great job. It's good sight awesome podcasts as well. Kevin
Clinger Kevin joins us on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay, let's let's start with the

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Chris Jones contract. Obviously, some of this some some of
that money is available because Pat Mahomes deal first three
years doesn't hurt the cap all that much, right, doesn't
really change this year in the next couple of years,
but the cap is supposed to go down. My perspective, though,
is that this is the Chiefs doing what all great
teams do. You win a Super Bowl, everybody gets paid

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and try and figure out can you keep it going
now that you're you know, and hoping those big money
pieces don't get hurt or don't fade at all, then
you gotta hit on some draft picks. Am I wrong
for thinking this is the same thing that happened to
the Eagles, to the Falcons, to so many, to the Seahawks,
to so many of these teams that win, win, or

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go to a circle. Yeah, I mean, this is the
tax you pay for being a really good team, is
that you have to start giving out huge contracts. They
had already given out the Frank Clark deal last year. Um,
I think he was one of the highest paid players
every won the Super Bowl. Frank Clark was you. Now
he's been eclipsed of Pats from Mahomes and listen, it's
really easy to keep this going with this, you know,

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quote unquote stars and scrubs sort of salary structure, because
you're paying a lot of guys twenty million dollars and
a lot of guys two million or eight hundred dollars
or whatever it is, as long as you hit on
the draft pick. So this becomes Brent Veach not only
managing a salary cap in an efficient way, but also
just hitting on those young guys. Listen, you know, Edward Hilaire,
it starts right there. If he's able to to have

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a running back season this year it is dynamic and
make Patrick Mahomes better, well then it doesn't matter that
they're capped out at other positions. And so, yes, this
is a lot of teams have faltered on this strategy.
A lot of teams have had and make really tough
decisions in the month after the Super Bowl. But I
think they've been handling the Chiefs and handled as well
as any team has in the last couple of years. Um, yeah,

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and and and then the don't give a running back
a second contract right, which which which the Cowboys did
violate obviously, but they have a good one but probably overpaid.
And then the Carolina Panthers violated. On the other hand,
he's more than a running back, you know, catching the
second most balls in the National Football Let's talk about
the Cowboys. Supposedly no new talks even with you know,

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twenty four hours ago between Dak and the Cowboys. Um,
is this the right path for the Cowboys to be
going down? No, no, it's not because the price of
quarterbacks is always going up. They haven't talked in months,
and reports say that, and you know this seems obvious
at this point, but there won't be a deal by
the deadline. And I just don't know what the strategy is, necessarily,

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because every day that you go with outstanding your order back,
you risk another deal being signed if it raises the price. Obviously,
we had Mahomes last week. But even if you believe
the argument that he's in a different category, what if
de Shaun Watson science his deal and the next couple
of weeks, all of a sudden, DA's looking off of that.
From from what I see, it almost appears like Dak

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wants to be paid, Almost like you would be the
absolute best version of what Kirk Cousins did a couple
of it, Yeah, exactly, which is short contracts that your
friends get to true free agency. Understand the tag, And
I remember talking to Kirk Cousin's agent about this, and
Kirk Cousins himself the tag can be your friend. I
saw a quote the other day. I think it within
the athletic where an anonymous agent said, listen, you don't

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love the franchise tag, but you love to be Dak
Prescott right now. And I think that's the way you
look at it. If you are a quarterback, you can
use the tag to your advantage. You make a lot
of money. He's even with Patrick Mahomes's contract, he will
have Dak Prescott the biggest cap hit in the NFL
this year for a quarterback. I think he's playing the
game perfectly. And I found the Cowboys. I have no
idea what I'm doing right now. Kevin Clark joining us

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from the ringer. Cam Newton it was on a new
Like podcast and um, you know, like, look, I get
that he understands he's replacing Tom Brady, but this me
against the world. Everybody's wrong and only the Patriots are right.

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Do we know if Cam Newton can be old Cam Newton?
Because that, that, to me is the biggest reason that
he was out in the market. Right was like, Okay,
he's yes, yes, was he a dynamic runner, yes, but
he's had multiple surgeries on his legs and feet, and
so is he gonna still do that? And then his
throwing motion changed because the shoulder surgery. What are your

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thoughts on Let's first start with social media friendly uh
Cam Newton, quarterback, Patriots go. I think it's fine. Generally.
It was in Robert Howski with Fox Burrow. He was
allowed on social media and in life as anybody. Um,
I think that the Patriots can handle. Those are sort
of personalities belong. It's not doing it literally in the

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locker room from time once September rolls around. Um So,
I think Belichick is gonna be fine with that. Remember
there was there was all this taco He celebrates whatever.
I mean, there's footage NFL Film's footage Bill Belichick saying
that you should celebrate touchdowns. He should be excited when
you make a football play. He should be excited to
play football. I don't think Belichick is gonna be nearly
down on that kind of behavior as certain people think.

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I think he's gonna like Canderd. I think most people
do like Hender and I did a lot of reporting
in Carolina when he was at his pinnacle, and I
think that he's generally a likable guy who is going
to win over locker room pretty quickly. So I think
that it's going to be a non story once season
rolls around. I think it's just he's excited right now
and he's stealing himself a little bit, and because he's

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going to the best situation he possibly could have gone through,
even if it's not the right money. And I think
he's just having a little bit of a public revenge
tour before the real work starts. I think that that's
I think that's okay. I also think it'd be Look,
he did sign the deal, and so he is not
only betting on himself, but he's not doing it about
the money, which I think is admirable. We always we

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always tell that say, hey, you know, it's admirable when
you do things because they're the right things and not
about the money. And that is why now he ultimately
I'm sure he'd been doing it for a bigger payday
in the future, but it's still admirable what he's doing. Okay,
how do they use him? Yeah? So, I mean what
I'm fascinated by is I did this story a couple
of years ago, right talking Dan moll And, the coach
of Florida, and he said that Joson Jane would come

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in in two thousand and six and the Patriots were
obsessed with learning about the spread and how that worked.
And this was just a few years after me and
how to Alex Smith at Utah, and they're really interested
in that stuff. And then you know, listen, you have
Tom Brady. So you could not run the Alex Smith
offense or the Tim Tebow offense in New England. But
they've always had that idea in their head. And listen,
they were able to take some of that stuff. You know,

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they reinvented the slot position with Wes Welker and all
that stuff. But I think they've always wanted to have
more of a running quarterback game. They signed Tim Tebow
a couple years and just two experiment. It didn't work,
But I think that because they've had the best quarterback
in history, they haven't needed to experiment. And so now
they're going to be able to sort of do whatever
they've ever come up with and weren't able to do
because they again have the leg uring the best quarterback

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of all time, just throwing darts everywhere. And so I
think that you're going to see not tifteen Cam Newton,
but I think if you see teen Cam Newton, who
was above average and still had had the legs. I
think you're going to see more of that, and I
think they're going to know how to use them. With
the Bill Belichick, no one knows more about how football
is evolved from nineteen twenty on than Bill Belichick. When

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there's a guy who talks about the single wing all
the time, they winning to see all of this stuff.
I think he's just really probably really excited to get
out an experiment and see what works. And that's that's
why I think excites everybody, including Cam Newton about how
this could look at I agree with you. Remember that
there's been discussions about them having thoughts about drafting Lamar Jackson.
They decided to pass right like it's this is this
is real stuff that they have talked about, and now

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you have a Cam Newton. I guess my question though,
is why did Carolina higher North Turner? And the answer
had to be they didn't think he could be the
old Cam Newton anymore, right, right, And this is a
guy who took unfortunately more hits in than anybody in
history at that point. I actually was Lamar Jackson actually
exceeded that last year, but he's taking a different type

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of hit and then we'll put that aside for a second.
But I think that Cam Newton took a lot of
damage in sixteen. I think that his game was evolving
and they were trying for something else, and I'm not
sure that that necessarily work. I think Cam being Cam
and letting him do what he wants to, letting him
own the game and and and be creative and all
apto idin't got the best way to use him. The

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north Turner higher was strange for me, obviously didn't work,
and they, you know, think Carolina could have had him
at I think he could have restructured or something like
that for this year, UM for for a fairly decent price,
and they didn't. They didn't want to, and so I
think that they just felt like it was over for
them UM in Carolina, that that that was over. You know,
Ron Rivera's out, Matt Rules building his system, and so

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I think that it has got to be a health thing.
I think that when you have a quarterback with battling injuries,
and they were they were some really serious injuries, talking
about shoulders, talking about feet, things people don't recover from.
Sometimes I think that that that stalls the franchise, And
I just don't think that Matt Roue wanted to start
his franchise off by having a huge question mark like that.
I agree, but and you know, then you look at

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his coach, goes to Carolina, goes to Washington, d c.
And brings in player personnel people, brings in Scott turn
or Sun to run his offense. He even brings in
the Carolina Panthers quarterback and trades for him. It's just
not Cam Newton like it's it is. There are some
now look to to go back and Kevin Clark are
our guest in the Doug Outlive show on Fox Sports
tradeo to kind of support you in terms of what

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the Patriots you are thinking, like, there's a lot of
talk to the Chargers are thinking the same thing with
Tyrod Taylor that what the Ravens have capitalized on is
something that a lot of coaches have thought about doing,
which is why are we trying to make these dynamic
to you know, dual option quarterbacks into drop back throwers.
Let's take some of the genius to the college game

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and bring it to the NFL game, especially when NFL
defenses aren't built to stop that kind of offense. Yeah,
I mean, and that's that's the easiest thing to do now, Doug.
And it used to be the hardest thing, but now
it's the easiest thing. Is to take an elite college quarterback,
let him run the same stuff he ran in college
and just win for the first three years. And obviously

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with someone like lamar the Ravens of Taylor, that too,
probably the best system running system has ever seen in
the NFL. At NFL level. Um, But I think that
he looked back at cam Newton even in his rookie year,
he had the best rookie year on record, and it
was because they borrowed a lot of Auburn concepts and said,
let's let's just let it rip. And I think that
the more that is seeped in at the NFL level,

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the better it's been. There was a lost generation, Doug
of quarterbacks. Who I mean, look at Marcus Mariota. He
comes in, he as ken Whizz Hunt and Mike Malarkey.
They don't know what to do with them. And all
of a sudden, you know, his rookie contracts up and
that he's just banged up and and it just doesn't
work for him. And I think that that wouldn't happen now.
If Marcus Mariot were born ten years later, he would
have been handled much differently. So I think that you're

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now seeing more innovation, You're seeing more coaches who are
up for this sort of thing, and I think that
you're seeing I think Tyrod Taylor with the Chargers, it
could work. I mean, quite frankly, you know everyone's gonna
lose home field advantage this year, accept the Charger's playing
in an NB stadium is gonna be fine for them.
So I think that with the roster talent that they have, UM,
I think Tyrod Taylor is the case. It might work.
And I just think that Lamar Jackson has shown teams

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the way, and the Ravens have shown teams the way.
And I think that there's just a more open mind
and coaching right now. Talked a little bar about it
a couple of weeks ago. There is a now a
more open mind among coaches than there was twelve months ago, right,
And it's fascinating because Tebow did the same. Like Tebow's
and make sure it's clear Tebow is not close to
Lamar athletically, He's not close to Lamar is the thrower.

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But but Tebow showed you. Look, you can you shorten
the game. You put less pressure on your defense because
there's fewer possessions, maybe a little bit more pressure on
your kicking game because there are a lot of field
goals or whatever. Uh. And you don't want to you
don't want to get behind big but but there there
is uh Tebow. Tebow gave you a glimpse for a while.
Vince Young gave you a little glimpse. RG three gave

(29:20):
you a little glimpse. The problem has been that they've
all gotten hurt or haven't evolved. And we'll see how
much Lamar evolves. Um, I want to ask you about
Aaron Rodgers. I saw Madden gave him an eighty nine rating.
Don't really care about the Madden eighty nine rating, but
you you do. Hear a lot of people grading out

(29:41):
Aaron Rodgers talking about Rogers fading some And then I
talked to other people have watched the tape, like man,
Aaron Rodgers actually bailed them out a bunch. Where are
you on your expectations for this version of Aaron Rodgers.
ESPN had number three last week on their their poll
top ten quarterbacks that everybody saw, and I just think

(30:02):
that does in the disservice because he's not that third
best quarterback anymore. He might be having the third best
career of anybody active or something like that. But I
think that he you know, the Packers told us what
they thought of Aaron Rodgers when the draftedly gout in
the first round, and I think that that means he's
on the clock. Does that mean he's not Aaron Rodgers
of or twenty eleven? He's probably not in the m

(30:22):
v P race um probably for the next few years.
But I think he can still be an amazing quarterback.
And you know, there was a thing on Twitter the
other day that it was Aaron Rodgers best throw in
each of his NFL season, and you just remember the
types of throws he's made and what he's capable of.
I mean, he was Mahomes before Mahomes, and I think
we've forgotten it a little bit because Mike McCarthy made

(30:45):
the offense to vanilla the last couple of years because
you didn't adapt. He know, there are not many guys
had rather have for a given play than Aaron Rodgers,
and so my expectations for him. He went to the
NFTY Championship Gamp last year. I mean, it's not like
he went three and thirteen, and so my expectations for
him are to the baseline for him is to be
the best quarterback in the NFC North, and if he's not,

(31:05):
that's a disappointment. And I think he's still capable of
doing it. And that's that's going to be more competitive
division this year. I think that the Vikings are pretty good. UM,
some really smart people trying to talk to me. The
Barras last a couple of weeks. I'm not totally sure
about that one, but I think that the Packers should
win that division. Um. And I think that year two
in little for offense, even though they're trying to change it.

(31:25):
They're trying to go full San Francisco on us. UM,
I think he will be more comfortable and I predict
vaguely good things in green Baby Shire. Miles Garrett signs
a massive new contract too much. I mean, like, look,
he is a guy. He did have the incident with
the Pittsburgh Steelers, and it feels like he you know,
he made up the racial slur, but he's a he's

(31:48):
a stud. Your thoughts on Miles Garrett getting paid today. Yeah,
it shows you. So for what the first five months
of COVID lockdown, there were three players who signed veteran extension.
Christian McCaffrey was one of them. And I think that
there was this narrative that that these type of deals
weren't going to get done, and now they're getting done
all the time. Shows you the salary cap is fake.

(32:11):
Shows you that teams believe that even with the revenue
shortfall this year, let's say it's thirty million dollars of capit,
something will be figured out and you can still pay
Passer home with forty five million dollars a mile Garret
twenty five million dollars or Chris Jones, And I just
think that, yeah, million dollars from leak pass Rusher, who's young,
that's really good. And I think that, um, he's a

(32:32):
guy who not not taking into accounts that internet to
be at the at the end of last year, which
I think was really unfortunate. Um. I think he's a
generally good person out in the building. I've spent a
lot of time with him. I think you could teammate.
I think people like him, And so, yeah, twenty five
million dollars you signed him. Now he keep the price
from going up here and you would have to go

(32:53):
through the whole tag thing anyway. I think that when
you haves an lead player, you just pay market value
and just just keep it moving. Awesome stuff. You can
hear more and read more from Kevin Clark if you
go to the Ringer in the meantime. We got them
today and we couldn't be happier. Kevin, thanks so much
for joining us on Fox Sports Radio. Kevin Clark, that
dude knows loves covers, gives you so much stuff on

(33:13):
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This time we get to a bunch of stories of

(33:34):
the day. We do so by plenty of game. Okay,
this is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh
damn by what's the game today? Doug? The game today
is rank Um all right? New music been today? John

(33:56):
Ramos mixing things up as uh e J John Rama.
Yeah yeah. Rank the three best defensive players in the
National Football League right now? Okay, I will put Umm.
I'm gonna put Khalil mack Oh, It's yeah, Khalil Mackett.

(34:22):
Stefan Gilmore at three. Everybody says he's the best cover guy. Uh, cornerback,
but Stefan Gilmore three. I'm gonna put Aaron Donald two
and Nick Bosa one. Interesting after just one year he
was the best player in Super Bowl alright. Rank the
three most important Cleveland Browns heading into the season. I'll

(34:45):
do Miles Garrett at three. Oh b J at two?
You know O b J said he almost retired when
he broke his ankle with the Giants things. I don't believe.
I almost retired, and then I realized, Yeah, what am
I gonna with the rest of my life when I
could be a great football player from my ankle? Actually heals? Uh?
And then Baker Mayfield one. I'm surprised that Dobe J

(35:06):
made the list. Well, it's because it's it's not just
about his production. He's a he's a more talented player
than Jarvis Lantry. But it's not just about his production,
it's also about his ability to not be a pain
in the ass. Alright, grank the three best Cowboy quarterbacks
in the last thirty years. I made a typo on
the sheet, but last thirty years? Uh? And this includes

(35:28):
quarterbacks that have played a minimum with sixteen games, so
at least one season with the Cowboys. Well, Troy Aikman's
one and Tony Romo's two. And then I guess the
question is who's three. I wouldn't put Quincy Carter and
I don't think I put Blood, so so I guess
I'll put that, all right? Huh. Just, I mean there's
just not a lot to choose from there. Sure, Sure,

(35:51):
I just I wasn't sure if I would would you put?
Who would you put? Drew? Would you put? Like Drew
Bleds has had a better career, but was it better
as a Dallas Cowboy quarterback? But I you know, there's
there's some that, uh will say that you know, Romo is,
you know, Hall of Famer. There's others that don't believe it. Uh.
There's an Aikman supporting cast. But but Aikman one, Romo two,

(36:13):
Deck three. I don't think that a lot of people
would argue with that, Doug got today was supposed to
be the Major League Baseball All Star Game right right
in our backyard at Dodger Stadium. Doug rank the top
three most memorable All Star Game or Home Run Derby
memories that you have? Okay, I honestly barely watched Home

(36:35):
Run Derby. It's just how many times could I hear
back back do do do do do? Do? Do? Do? Do? God?
I was like All Star Game memories? Um, I would say,
Bo Jackson at Angel Stadium is number three. Um, I

(36:56):
know my number one is I'm trying to think number two.
O Jackson number there is number three? Uh? Number two
is cal Ripken Junior's last All Star game around high
fight everybuddy rod. Uh didn't was it a raw that
gave him a shortstop? Or yes? Yes? And then the
number one is when Ted Williams was at in Boston

(37:20):
for the All Star Game and you know it was
it was pretty emotional? Would be okay? Alright? Good? What
sits the top of your rankings as a summertime treat
thinking of that ice cream treat to maybe that popsicle?
What what sits the top your rankings as your favorite
summertime treat. Okay. Number three would be an ice cream cone.

(37:44):
Number two would be a pot of cidical as my
son used to call it when I was a little
And number one is shaved ice. Shaved ice, which is
also called a snow cone in some place. Yes. Yes,
And then some may say, like shaved ice is better
than a snow cone because it's while they're this same thing.
They're the same. Yeah, absolutely the same thing. This is

(38:06):
game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show Doug gottlib Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, good snow now in
in Wisconsin where you grew up. Is it shaved ice
or snow snow? What's your favorite kind of snowclone? Grape rape?
I like your grapes. I love grape everything except I
don't like grapes. It's interesting, which don't which the two

(38:29):
tastes are different. I do like grapes, uh, and I
do like most grape stuff, which is not the same.
I know, I like green more than red grapes, green
more than red grapes. In my fruit hierarchy, grapes are
higher on the list and than other fruits are right,
they're they're quite refreshing, not refreshing to the level of watermelon.

(38:49):
But they have a similar problem to watermelon, which they
can look really taste and you go in there and
you're like, oh, they can get gooey and right when
you but you do bite. Do you test rats you buy?
Do you like grapes? Do you test a rape before
you buy the bag? No? I do. Call me a
bad person, and maybe with the rown, I am a
bad person. Coming next, a lot of college football issues
will discuss in the Doug Outlet Show. Fox Sports Radio

(39:10):
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Sports Radio. So, look, this is some weird times, weird
weird times. I'll give you an example. Okay, so you

(39:34):
got on one hand, you've got Clay Travis, who's like,
all of you guys are soft. We're not sending your
kids back to school. There's no stats that tell you
shouldn't send your kids back to school, and any other
people like, yeah, I don't know, Clay kind of looks
bad here, Bud. Look we look, we have clearly passed
over the part of uh corona testing where people, well

(39:55):
there's more tests. You're not getting tested now unless one
work is mandated that you do oh or two and
this is super important two, Um, you're not feeling well right,
well all if people aren't getting tested, this is like
I feel fine, I'm gonna go get tests anyway. I'm

(40:18):
not buying that one. So you get clay on one hand,
and then you have the world is coming to an end.
Let's go back under quarantine on the other hand, And
the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Here. Here's
what I've done to kind of educate myself a little bit. Um.
I run a basketball program in Orange County, California. Two

(40:38):
of the parents actually four of the parents of my kids,
one as a couple, but of the parents of the
kids our doctors. One is actually an er room doc,
another one is actually my kids pediatrician. And then there's
a couple and they're both doctors. Well. And then have
another kid who plays for one of our older teams,

(40:59):
whose dad actually does a lot of this kind of
research and I think is involved with companies trying to
find a vaccine. So try and call all these people like, hey,
where are we here? And the numbers are not good,
especially uh, if you look at kids in the post
pubescent ages, right, that's where we're seeing a good amount

(41:22):
of the spreading and people are trying to figure out
what the fall is going to look like. And then
we get to college football, and we've told you before
that a lot of the decisions they want to make,
they want to make they'd like to make earlier rather
than later, because it's not like like when the NBA team, Yes,

(41:44):
you have thirty five people that can make these trips,
but you also have to have um but that's it.
That's it's just like it's thirty five people. Now every
one of those people is really really important, especially the player.
But it's only whereas colleges. In terms of schools being open,

(42:04):
you're talking about anywhere from ten to fifty students, and
then all of the supporting, the professors, the r as,
the local businesses, everything, the janitorial staff. All of this
stuff is inter related. So it's it's really interesting to

(42:28):
see what happens and how it happens. What what we've
been told. The Big Ten has said, Hey, we're only
gonna play conference games. I'm only gonna play conference games.
And we had Dave Rabstadan from the Big Ten Network
and what he said is what I've been hearing, which
is the logic behind it is within the Big Ten,

(42:53):
you know how financially supported these players are. That the
schools can pay for the constant testing, the schools can
pay for the type of facilities where somebody can be
quarantined and nobody's in and nobody's out and they're actually
you're sick. You're gonna be actually quarantined, and you'll still

(43:15):
get food, you'll still be taken care of. Whereas when
you get to the lower levels of college football, there's
just not the money that there is at the big
time schools. Some of this exposes the differences and the
haves and the have nots. Some of it will only
speed up the process of separating the haves from the
have nots, and some of it is the reality of it.

(43:38):
I look at this and I think, and it's going
to be fascinating, fascinating to see what happens with college
football because it is not like it is not like
the NFL SEC Commissioner Greg Sanky was on the Paul
fine Bomb Show time is an asset that's rapidly slipping away.
The fact that we've been seen increased in cases over

(44:01):
the last few weeks across our region is not a
positive indicator on conference only scheduling. We are not at
that destination. A number of our UH of our colleague
conferences are not at that destination. In other words, right now,
the SEC is trying to take a breath and trying
to delay as much as possible because this has such

(44:23):
incredible wide ranging effects on on you know, financial implications,
and I know what people will say, like, well, that
only proves that the football players are pros. Just like no, no,

(44:44):
not really. And look I've often I've always said, if
you want to say they're pro, okay, I believe it
is a you are. You are compensated for your skill
of playing sports. You're compensated for just showing up and
going to class by getting I mean showing up and

(45:07):
going to practice, by getting a scholarship. You can be
compensated and not be a professional because you're also not
taxed on that compensation. Maybe that's semantics to you, it's
a reality to me. And you'll get people that say, well,

(45:29):
the football players can show up but the regular students can't.
And so hold on a second. Now, if the football
players are taking all online classes, which, by the way,
I just hate to be the guy to break it
to most of America, a lot of them been taking
all online class or mostly online classes throughout all of
uh of their their tenure at school. Don't get me wrong,

(45:52):
it would be a very very different year. But if
worst case scenario is students aren't doing in person and learning,
any of these college football players weren't during in person
learning anyway, are you still taking in a class? Yes,
that way, you're still represent the university as a student athlete.
None of that has actually changed. What has changed is

(46:16):
whether or not they let fans in, full fans in,
partial fans in, or whatever. That doesn't change, and the
question becomes can you can you keep okay, you know,
like what sort of liability waiver? Which is interesting because
you'll have people say, well, I won't sign a liability

(46:38):
waiver for COVID, but when you sign up to play
college football, you are signing a liability waiver anyway. And
by the way, liability waivers actually don't stand up in court.
It's a bit of a red herring. So we're getting
close to D day, decision day, it's somewhere in the
next week or so, and the numbers aren't good. But

(47:03):
it's also good to have a ton of patients and
to remember what you're learning from the NBA, which is
really really simple. Yeah, I get it. A guy test positive,
it is not a death sentence. Once they get cleared.
Once it, once they start to not test positive, then

(47:24):
they can make the trip down to Orlando. The same
is true for college football players. And if a kid
has a asthma whereas some other breathing condition, some other issue,
then guess what. They will likely be able to stay
home and get a medical red shirt and do it

(47:44):
all over and take the year off if they so
desire to do so. So the college and the pro
thing is different. There are some similarity that I would
say the big differences you know, in in the NFL
and in Major League base Ball. Like Major League Baseball,
if you choose to opt out, you can opt out,
but unless you can prove that you have a legit

(48:06):
reason for concern, you're not gonna get paid. In college football,
if any of these guys choose to opt out, they're
still give me on scholarship. They'll still be taking classes,
they'll simply get another year of eligibility. So I I
think there's a difference there. I'm fascinating to see what happens.

(48:28):
I truly believe, truly believe that a big part of
um of the conference. Only thing the big tents trying
to do is say like, look, I want it gives
us one more conference game. They also control all the
TV rights to all that stuff. But the biggest thing
is our programs are really well funded. Most of the

(48:50):
other programs are not, and you cut out some of
the risk factors, which kind of goes to my point
which I've made time again. The college players that are
on campus are in a less risky environment than if
they're at home because at home, the whole world has
been opened up. This thing has been spread and the

(49:11):
biggest and the and the demographic that it's spreading to
the most is their age group. They get better medical care,
whether they have it or don't have it. There's a
better bubble, and they're creating some sort of college football
bubble if you eliminate the non BCS conferences. So it

(49:32):
does make sense, and it doesn't mean all gloom and
doom for football. It doesn't mean that they're canceling. But
the numbers don't look good. But that doesn't mean that
those things don't slowly turn around over time. This could
be the second spike, or it could just be a
precursor for the second spike. We just we learn more
the more we go. Mhm, crazy times by or do

(49:57):
you think we'll have college football this year? Just I'm
I'm at some point. Yeah. But the problem was before
they told us the earlier was better than later. Now
it seems like they're pushing it back right now. It's like, well,
we gotta, we gotta wait, we gotta make a decision.
I just don't know how if you don't have it,
you know how these other programs can survive. I don't.

(50:19):
I don't think they can. I don't think they can.
Maybe they have some sort of spring schedule or whatever
for for none, for for the mid major, low low
major kind of levels. I don't think that's their concern. Which,
by the way, is this is a lot like malls closing,
right Like malls will sit there and go like, you know,
we couldn't be open, and so we're gonna have to
close because the coronavirus. Like, look, malls were going away anyway,

(50:42):
or they were evolving into entertainment centers with you know,
bars and restaurants or whatever. But the you know, Jake
Crue declared bankruptcy before this thing ever really kicked in,
before they even saw that. The revenue streams from our
lack of revenue from it. So it's amazing when you
go to malls that built on to the the outside,
malls that are built onto the ones that were previously

(51:04):
they're inside, so it's basically the same mally, and the
outside shops are so much more vibrant than what is inside,
same exact mall location connected, but at least here in
southern California. No, it's honestly, it's like that everywhere. It's
like that. You go to the Midwest and it's like
that as well. The outside mall. You're like, what do
they do during bad Weather's like when people park their
car and they walk in from the bad weather and

(51:25):
then they go into the store. And yeah, you kind
of do, and there's some days when it's bad, but
it's not like you live in Antarctica. Although you know,
I think even an article they would have a open
air mall but it is. But I mean like, look,
J C. Penny and Sears are struggling before this. This
only uh, this only speeds up the process. That's That's
really what's happened. It sped up the process. So coming next.

(51:47):
I'm sorry, I have really difficult time seeing Cam Newton
on the Patriots and it working out long term. I'll
tell you why. Be sure to catch the live edition
of the Doug gott Leap Show week days at three
I'm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. This is Cam Newton on the
Bigger Picture on YouTube talking about his role with the

(52:08):
Patriots and replacing Tom Brady. We have to talk about
the elephant in the room, and it's like you know
you who you you're coming after? And I'm like, yeah, great,
what he was, what he is is great. Needs no
even talking about it. But one thing about it, though,
Coach McDaniels, you're able to call some stuff that you've
never been able to call. Now you're getting a dog.

(52:30):
You're getting one of these tick Dolf dogs. Two days
like Bro, and I'm looking at the schedule, I'm like,
who we played? That team passed on me, okay, that
team passed on me. They could have game and got me. Okay,
So let's look at their schedule and that that team
passed on me that and and look, I don't have
you want motivated dudes, and he's obviously a motivated dude.

(52:53):
There's nothing wrong with that. I motivated Cam Newton is
a good one. Um. Okay, So the Dolphins would that
a team that passed on him, sure, but they had
a plan in place to get to a tongue of
Violoa and they'll probably start, I would guess Ryan Fitzpatrick
at that point in time. The seahawks first road game,
if Cam Newton is the start at the start of

(53:14):
the year, will be in Seattle against the Seahawks. And
they weren't changing quarterbacks. The Raiders, well, they did sign
Marcus Mariotta to be a seven point five million dollar
year backup, but that was before he was ever released.
And they do have Derek Carr who they could have
bought out, but they've chosen to stick with. And they
then it's the Chiefs, all right, So where are the

(53:34):
teams that that that passed on him? They could have,
Like you're just making it up. Everyone knew the Dolphins
were drafting a quarterback, and if we're honest, Ryan Fitzpatrick
has been a better quarterback the past couple of years.
And I'm not a Fitzpatrick guy, but he was a
better quarterback past couple of years than Cam Newton has
been because he's been healthier. Broncos they've gotten Cam Newton,

(54:01):
like I guess, and actually that would have been fascinating
to see, but they're all in Andrew lock forty Niners,
no Bills. Yeah, Sean McDermott used to be his defensive
coordinator and Brandon Bean was an assistant GM when he
was there. But they went to the playoffs last year
with Josh Allen's their quarterback. The Jets they got Sam Donald,

(54:23):
The Ravens they have Lamar Jackson, the Texans they have
Deshaun Watson. The Cardinals I have Okay, so you're talking
about the Chargers on the road who just draft a
quarterback and they think Tyrod Taylor is a younger, healthier
version of Cam Newton, or the Rams who have their
quite like, where are the teams you're talking about again?
I know you can sit there and go like they
could have had me, Like, none none of these teams

(54:45):
were in the market for a quarterback. Cam Newton is
literally living in an alternate universe from reality, which is cool,
which you can do like you can. We saw this
with Jordan with the last Dance and just making up
false narrative in order to motivate yourself. Got it? But

(55:05):
I mean, like, where are the team's camp? Yes? Can
Josh man Daniels call some plays he couldn't call before, Yes,
But there's also some place that he always used to
call and he can't call anymore. Do you know why?
Because you're not that accurate? And with with Tom Brady,
they knew each other so well that they could put
in a game plan and they knew what each other
was thinking, and they talked every day and they hadn't

(55:27):
I remember we did this five years ago. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that. What you're saying is, here's the Okay.
There were teams that weren't interested because they thought his
shoulder was shot. Maybe they were wrong. The doctors thought
Drew brees a shoulder was shot. It clearly wasn't. So

(55:51):
the first thing is that that how can he throw consistently?
Not not against air? Can he throw? Can he make
throws all week long, and then does his arms stand
up to making throws even in the good weather earlier
in the year, And then everyone wants to point out

(56:14):
these highlights from two thousand, thirteen and fourteen and fifteen
of him running around like dude, Cam Newton was a burst,
amazing speed, athleticism, strength. It's two right, yet ankle surgery
and Liz frank injury. It's not like the Panthers didn't
know what they had, not like Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera

(56:37):
traded for a Carolina Panthers quarterback not named Kim Newton
traded for Kyle Allen. Had he simply and he traded
for him, had he simply waited a couple of weeks
a month, could have had Cam Newton, but he didn't.
You don't want that guy's your backup. So I'm not

(56:59):
telling you that I know what Cam Newton looked like.
I'm telling you that the Carolina Panthers felt like they
knew and they passed. And Ron Rivera knew what he
knew and he passed. And then Cam is living in
the same way. He's living in this alternate universe over

(57:20):
who he is and what he can do. He's also
living in this alternate universe in regards to who passed
on him, who had the opportunity to sign him, because
I mean, I guess the Dolphins could have, but everyone
knew they were drafted too if they could, right, Like
they were tanking for a year to get a quarterback.
That's their schedule. Dolphins, Seahawks, Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos, Niners, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Texans, Cardinals, Chargers, Rams, Dolphins, Bills, Jets.

(57:49):
Where are the teams that that chunned you? They don't exist.
Doesn't mean I don't. I'm not interested, don't want to
see him succeed. It's just I else to deal with reality.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show week days at three pm Easter noon Pacific.
Ben Goliver joins The Dug Gotlip Show Foxible fra Ben

(58:09):
Goliver is in the bubble, he writes for The Washington Post. Okay,
so have you cleared? I saw you pasty? Uh we
now isn't um We have you cleared? Quarantine? It's the
first forty eight hours right where you get that wrist band.
You cannot leave your room? Have you cleared that yet
I'll tell you what, it's even worse than that because
for the media members who didn't, you know, get tested
for coronavirus before flying down here and had to fly commercial.

(58:32):
Our quarantine is actually seven days. So I've been basically
day two of a seven day quarantine. I'm still pacing
back and forth in my room. I'm still waiting for
my three meals delivered to my door. I got a
long way to go, Okay, So again, then I I
spoke with UM a couple of people from their rooms yesterday,
and then UM, somebody related to somebody. Okay, so this

(58:53):
is what I was told. You get there, and you
tell me from you get there, you get a key
to your room, and it's all you can only get in,
and once you're in, you can't get out. And then
once you clear quarantine, you have that risk bracelet and
it's red when you wake up, and then it checks
your vitals and then it turns green. Only then can
you leave your room. Is that Is that accurate for

(59:14):
what you're going through? Yeah, it's pretty close. I mean
I could walk out my front door right now, but
I do have a green bracelet. And so basically, if
security saw me it would be like the you know,
the tip hotline that you're talking about. They would be
coming after me pretty quick, saying get back in your room,
and my clock would restart. So obviously I'm I'm free
to leave, but not really if I want to continue
reporting on it. Every night, I'm getting tested for the coronavirus.

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So they come and do it right on my doorstep.
They don't actually have the personnel come into my room.
No one else is allowed into my room. My window
doesn't open. Um, you know. I see some Disney World
stafford was walking by every once in a while with
the food. But that's really it. Otherwise, I'm essentially, you know,
isolated from the outside world for a full week. Okay,
so a full week of not leaving your room. Did

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you put your did you put You're going to be
there for a long time? Uh? Right? When you got there,
do you put your clothes into the into the drawers
or do you do you hang everything up? Or do
you leave in the suitcase? Oh no, I fully unpacked,
only to find out like two hours later that they're
actually gonna move us to a different room after the
quarantine period. So I'm gonna have to repack in a week,
which is a little bit annoying, but uh, look, you know,

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it's it's all for the greater good. It's for the
greater safety. And I think the most important thing to
realize with this bubble is that the players are supposed
to be kind of in a bubble within a bubble,
right as media members. Even once we clear quarantine, we're
not supposed to get within uh you know, six ft
of them really at any time. You know, the interviews
are all going to be distanced. When we're at the games.
They're gonna have a sitting close to the court about

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ten to fifteen feet, which is awesome because we're gonna
be able to hear everything, but they don't want us
any closer in any sort of way to threaten the
players health or safety. So they're taking a lot of
precautions here, and frankly I appreciate it because you know,
I've been living a real safe life from the coverront
of my home all summer in Los Angeles, and you know,
flying across country was a little bit spooky, a little
bit weird going through the airport. Um, and the last

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thing you want to do is come down here for
a work assignment. And catch a disease that's killing people. Yeah,
that that that would that would be suboptimal. Suboptimal is
Ben Galliver joined us watching post Doug OATLP show here
on Fox Sport Trade. He's calling us live from the bubble.
So outside of writing interviews and writing what are you doing?
Trying to get my exercise in? You know, my room

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is eight paces long, so I've been walking back and
forth just trying to get my fitbit steps. Uh. You know,
I'm hearing from family members and you know, long lost friends,
college friends who are like, are you seriously down there
doing it? You know, what's wrong with you? So that's
been kind of funny to hear. Uh, you know, just
dealing with a lot of media interest. Frankly, I think
probably twenty something interviews in the last forty eight hours

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of people just kind of you know, trying to wrap
their minds around this NBA experiment. I mean also people
just rooting for basketball to work, right. I think that's
a major theme that's come up as I've been talking
to people. Uh, it would say something pretty cool if
the NBA was able to pull this off. Crowned champion
and they've had one every single year, since nine and
to have that street snap because of a disease or

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the shutdown, I think, you know, obviously it costs people
a lot of money, but there's a real symbolic hit
to that too. And if they're able to pull it off,
I think you you get those points back and people
would look to the NBA as potentially a league that
did it right. So I think that's sort of what
we're all hoping for you. Okay, so here here's I'll
give you what what happened with me. I was talking
to some people down there two nights ago, actually two

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days ago. A friend of mine who's from Houston knows
some people in the rocks storganizations, like, Hey, I tell
you I heard that Westbrook and Harden have the ROHNA,
that's why they haven't shown up. I was like, really,
So I made a couple of calls like, look, that's
the rumors down here. Talk to somebody like I can't
really say one way or the other. And then and
then it was reported that they did they did, in
fact have it. There are other players that aren't there

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as well. Um, are we allowed to assume that other
guys that haven't own up have tested positive? And they're
just quarantining and we haven't hasn't been reported yet, Like,
what what is it? What are those the guys that
haven't shown up? What's what is your take on them? Well,
it's really an opaque situation, right, So the NBA will
tell us how many tested positive. There was nineteen since July,

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and so presumably all those were not able to travel
with their teams, and presumably Westbrook is part of that group.
Right now, of the players who actually arrived in Orlando,
we know that two tested positive since they were in Orlando,
but they caught them before they were, you know, practicing
with their teammates, So those guys are also isolated. To
my knowledge, we don't know who those players are yet.
So so far, everybody who's actually going through practices, whether

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it's players, coaches, they've all been cleared medically in the bubble,
is holding to this point. But I guess for medical
privacy reasons, the NBA doesn't want to announce every single
positive test. They're just leaving it to the players. And
so what's going to turn into is kind of a
headcount situation where we're going to get to these guys
practices next week or there's scrimmages or in their games,

(01:04:00):
and we're going to do the thing where it's like, Okay,
how many guys are here, let's take roll call, almost
like we're kindergarten teachers trying to figure out who's healthy
and who's not. So there's a little bit of the
cat and mouse thing going on, for sure, But as
far as we know, a lot of the major stars
are here. Lebron's obviously done media here, Janice has done
media here. Kawhi Leonard arrived a little bit late, but
he's done media here. So I think in terms of

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like the the biggest attractions, Zion Williamson for the Pelicans,
you know, the the rookie, talented rookie has been in
practice and you know, doing interviews as well. So I
think for the major attractions, most of them are here,
with the exception of the Rocket stars who you mentioned.
But yeah, it's gonna be a cat and mouse game.
Like I said, Avery Bradley as of now staying home

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Rondo breaks his hand, Is there any thought that the
Lakers are gonna double back with Avery Bradley and try
and get him a change his mind. Well, that's a
great question because they're gonna need help, right. I mean,
they already bring in guys like Dion Wayers j R. Smith.
I mean they're kind of, you know, stretching in terms of,
you know, looking for NBA quality rotation players. At this point,
they don't have a lot of ball handling. They could

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use Avery Bradley's defense in that backcourt. I know, guys
like Caruso and Contavia's call well Pope have given them
some good minutes defensively. But you know, look, their biggest challenge,
if everybody stays healthy, is going to be the Clippers.
I think the Clippers are the deepest team in the league.
I mean they asked them. They made some moves during
the mid season, getting guys like Joe tem Noah Marcus Morris,
Reggie Jackson. They filled that rotation out. If you want

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to take them down in a seven game playoff series
and you don't have home court advantage because you're not
playing at Staples Center, you're playing in Orlando, you're gonna
need everybody you can get. So um, you know, we'll see.
I mean that's a personal decision that Avery's going to
have to make, and clearly he had some major concerns
about his family's health and potential exposure there. So you
know that's tv D. I guess, yeah, we'll see how

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it shakes out. But you know, Lebron's quest for a
fourth ring is getting more difficult by the day. Um,
I look at the West and there have been people
that have said, we'll hold on these games. The eight
games don't matter, they're just ramp up games. On the
other hand, matchups do and act matter. Right, So you've
got the Lakers and they're five and a half clear
of the Clippers. They're gonna get the one seed in

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the West. So now it comes down to who they
will match up with, and you know, we'll see if
it's the Grizzlies or if it's one of the other
teams that can kind of climb the ladder, like the Pelicans,
who I'm sure the league is hoping the Pelicans or
or the Blazers climb that ladder. But what about the
other Like, is there a match up the Clippers like
better or a matchup the Nuggets like better in terms
of who they could potentially play well. So here's the

(01:06:30):
fascinating thing to me on that usually those kinds of
like a three through seven group would really matter because
home court is so important, right, Like, if you're Denver
or Utah, like your whole ticket to make in the
second round if you don't have that big time, superstar
level player is having that awesome home court advantage in
the small market, getting the crowd behind you. Like in Utah,
we've seen that year after year that they be okay,

(01:06:50):
see not too long ago with help from their crowd.
Now those kinds of matchup and they're not going to
have that help. They're gonna be just playing in this
empty gym. So how does that change things? Do certain
teams decide, hey, we just want to use these games
for tuna because ultimately we're kind of playing, you know,
a bunch of teams that aren't great in that first
round matchup, So it doesn't really matter as long as
we don't have home court advantage. I think that's one

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issue to watch. There the other issue to watch that
I'm interested in, and you mentioned like the favorite six
day the Lakers are the Clippers playing against weaker teams.
You know, usually during the playoffs you get to that
Game three and that's sort of when the underdog team
has a real chance getting back in their home court, um,
you know, being able to ride the crowd to extend
the series and kind of make things interesting if the

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Lakers get up to zero against one of these teams,
like say the Pelicans are the Grizzlies, and those teams
don't have a home court, and they start thinking about, Ah,
if we lose here, it's not the end of the world.
We can go home and see our wife and kids,
or we can get back to our our mansions in
our houses. You know, are they gonna wind up rolling
over a little bit easier than they usually do. I'm
gonna be watching for that, because I wouldn't be surprised
at all of some of those first round playoffs series

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are done in like four or five this year, just
because you don't have that that boost that you get emotionally,
don't have the external motivation from the crowd, and you're
kind of thinking maybe you got a wandering eye. You said,
you know, Disney World was fun for a month, but
I'm ready to check out. Yeah, no, no, uh no question. Um,
I definitely think those you know, it used to be
one to three, cancoon now it's one to three. Let's

(01:08:16):
let's get out of Let's get out of the bubble, right,
let's go Let's go home. Do let Let's let's go
home Doug Otlip Show on Fox Sport Trade. And note
what I'm talking about is that the home court. But
just to match some teams match up better with other teams, right, Um,
like the you know, the Lakers, they have no problem
with the Grizzlies, But the Lakers would have more problems
with the Blazers, for example, because they don't really especially

(01:08:36):
without Avery Bradley. You know, now you're talking about you
have one real one guard that you'd want to stick
onto onto, Damian Lillard, and and he could single handedly
carry you through a series. So that that, yeah, that
that becomes fascinating to me. Um, what about Milwaukee? How
much pressure is on the Bucks considering this offseason, Janna

(01:08:57):
will have the super Max offered, and you do feel
like at some point there's you've got to take advantage
of a window of opportunity. What what what about Milwaukee
and the pressure to win in order to prove to
Janice that if you want to win championships, you're bet
you're just as good off hanging around. Well, I'd said
that they're kind of the biggest losers of this whole
shutdown because they were in an amazing groove all season long,

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you know, almost on taste to win seventy games. Their
best case, to keep in honest, was to make the finals.
They seem like they were going to be able to
do that, and they were the heavy favorite in the
Eastern Conference, right um. I think the challenge for them
right now is it could be more than a month
before they play meaningful games, because you know, their first
round opponent is going to be a team that doesn't
have their full compliment or rosters, whether it's Washington, uh,

(01:09:40):
you know, whether it's Brooklyn, whoever it might be. I mean,
a lot of those guys are staying home, so they're
not going to be pushed there at all. They might
not be pushed until the second round at the earliest,
and that's not going to be until almost September, right,
So they got a lot of kind of meaningless basketball
to chudge their way through and try to stay healthy
with um. I think ultimately though, they have the right
style of team to win down here because they play
excellent defense. I think it's gonna be pretty ugly these

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games are to start, and they've got a very dominant
guy who's going to be able to get to the
foul line regularly, and if you're an ugly games, that's
gonna be such an important key. Um. Now, are their
shooters gonna be able to step up when they're not
at home? I think that's an open question. But you know,
going back to your Lakers point, Um, you know, I
like the favorites down here a lot, whether it's the Lakers,
the Clippers, in the Bucks, I think they're going to
be in strong position to kind of keep their momentum going. Like, yes,

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they're gonna have to match up with Lillard, they don't
have the guards to match up with him, But you
look at Portland's roster, who's checking Lebron Right, who's checking
Anthony Davis. I mean, they're getting a few guys back,
whether it's a Nurkish up in Portland or or Zach Collins.
But I think those matchups are really favorable to the Lakers.
So I think one thing to watch with the the
NBA's restart in general is just how long is it

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until the really good teams get tested? Because we could
have a lot of excitement here coming up at the
end of July. Because basketball is back. Now. Once we're
watching their games, we're thinking, man, why did they invite
twenty two teams down here? Almost half these teams are
losing teams? And can we just forward to the good stuff? Yeah?
I mean, look, they did it obviously because they needed
those basically preseason type of ramp up games, and they

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and they need a volume of games as well, And
you don't want to play playoff teams only against playoff teams.
But I'm with you last thing. Do you think they're
really gonna test Lebron and Kauai we the West kind
of conference playoffs? Like they're not testing those guys, are they?
I I believe in the system. Honestly. I think that
it's they've done such a good job of trying to
keep it out here that they're gonna just stick with it. Um.

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You know, personally, I know there's skeptics out there. I
know there's cynics out there. But the test is so quick,
you know, it's actually like it takes like thirty seconds.
They just you know, stick a Q tip up your
nose and in your throat. Um that the data is
helpful to have, and ultimately, those guys are worth so
much money keeping them healthy. It's worth so much the
league that I personally believe in the testing protocols and

(01:11:50):
their commitment to it, and we'll see how it goes.
You know, I'm I'm just one writer, but you know,
call me naither if you want. But that's that's sort
of my position right now. Ben Oliver from the Washington
Post join us. I from the Bubble. Ben, great info.
Enjoy those that back before. We need to maybe get
you a workout like a Jane fund of workout video
or something. Uh. Push ups, sit ups always good, right,

(01:12:10):
plank also good as well. You may come out of
this a lean, mean writing machine. Thanks for joining us.
That's Ben Goliver from the Bubble joining us on the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Man, we got
a lot of things going on here that was fun though.
It was really fun. Would you do it? We'll talk.
We'll discuss that, um would would you go into the

(01:12:32):
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(01:12:53):
Sports on Don't We Call It No? This was Chris
Brusart on First Things First to cutsing Ben Simmons moving
to power forward and Shake Milton from Bixby, Oklahoma becoming
their new point guard. It's certainly disappointing that Ben just
has essentially refused to shoot. I know he took a
couple more threes than he has in the past, but

(01:13:13):
for the most part he's not shooting the ball. So
on paper, this looks good, right. Shake Milton was great
in in place of Ben Simmons when Ben was out
with the back injury. Over his last seven games, he
averaged nineteen points on sixty shooting from three. So you
look at it on paper, you say, hey, Simmons is

(01:13:35):
great as a as a guy playing down low on
the post. I love him down there. But here's the problem.
When they have typically had Simmons down as you call
it the dunkers spot Nick, what is what has happened?
Joe l Embi, the seven footer has been pushed out
to the three point line. And we were showing the
clip earlier where they had a Sixers practice, and that's

(01:13:58):
exactly what we're happening. Rette Role was telling Joy and
Beat get out here at the three point line. I
hate that, Okay, every once in a while. Yeah, it's
fine for him Beat to step out and shoot the three,
But if he's at a steady diet of being at
the three point line, he might as well be six
four instead of seven ft tall. You nullify his greatest strength. Uh, yes,

(01:14:23):
you do. Look, I think we gotta be reasonable about things. Okay,
And Shake Milton um Bixby Oklahoma. SMU was most people
thought was gonna be a first round draft pick and
then he didn't have good workouts and he doesn't really
have position a position. But Shake can really really score,

(01:14:45):
can really score. And all they're doing just because you
play power forward, I mean, doesn't mean you don't handle
the basketball. Do you do? Who else plays power forward
and handles the basketball? Yeah? That would be and can't shoot.
His name is Draymond Green. And again I don't think
they're using him exactly like Draymond Green, but the idea

(01:15:07):
that he's just gonna be in the way at the
block and never handled the basketball anymore is completely inaccurate.
You throw a lineup out there of Tobias Harris and
Joel embiid Um and Josh Richardson and Ben Simmons and
Shake Milton, and now of a sudden you've got a
bunch of scores. Then when they bring out Horford in,
then Ben Simmons likely moves back over to the point

(01:15:30):
guard spot. You know, there's a lot of mixing and
matching that takes place, But this is more to me
about getting Shake Milton and his offense and his defensive
versatilities six five, six, six, long, one to three guard.
It's it's more about Shake than it is about Ben,
and I think it gives them a chance to win
a lot of games. The Got Lip Show here on

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(01:16:15):
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Sprady Quinn's gonna join us in twenty five minutes to
tell you why I think the Lakers losing Rondo is
addition by sub checon uh. But let's get to the

(01:17:17):
Kansas City Chiefs, who are Earlier today was announced they
signed an extension with Chris Jones. That's right, Chris Junes. Um.
Chris Jones is stud defensive lineman and the way they're
building their team is much the way that Daniel Jeremiah
told us. They should build their team, right. You invest

(01:17:39):
in the quarterback, you invest in a couple of pass rushers,
you protect the quarterback with the offensive line, and then
you gotta hit on the draft and get and you know,
get as many dudes on the cheap at the skilled
positions as possible. Maybe a draft you know, late first
early second round running backs. Don't sign them to a

(01:18:00):
second contract like that. That's that's what good NFL teams.
That's a very good game plan, and that's exactly what
they're doing. Exactly what they're doing. So from a will
it work in this NFL, the answer is sure. Sure.
Remember they returned twenty of twenty two starters, Chris Jones,

(01:18:22):
Frank Clark. There two defensive pass rushers. You got Tyron
Matthew thorn Hill Pennel, Derek Nandi, you got Shavars Award
bhot b. Like that's a that's a good team. Chris
Jones four year million dollar deal, sixty million of it
is guaranteed, and a lot of that has helped out

(01:18:43):
with the fact that Pat Mahomes contract doesn't spike in
the first couple of years. It's not really till year four.
Those first three kind of light on on money in
terms of how it looks on the salary cap. But
this is where dynasties fail and the the no middle

(01:19:07):
class teams become super top heavy, and one guy gets
hurt or one guy is not as good as he's
supposed to be, and now of a sudden, you get
to this, You get to an area who where you
went all in after winning a championship. It's not the

(01:19:28):
disease of me. It's not about selfishness, because you're worth
what somebody's willing to pay you. And Chris Jones is
absolutely a star defense. He is so disruptive on the inside.
Plus he can stop the run. Like that's a good
football player. So if you're walking around, you're like, man,
godly killed the Chris Jones. I No, I didn't, No,

(01:19:49):
I didn't. You're you're better off signing your own guys
and getting cost certainty than you are bringing in somebody else,
because what I told you, a thirty three percent hit
rate on free agent hit Right. On the other hand,

(01:20:11):
you know, I look at it and I'm like, Okay,
what happened with the Philadelphia Eagles after they won a
Super Bowl? You signed guys two big contracts and you
have injuries two guys that are under those big contracts,
and you're a shell of the team you used to be.
What happened in Atlanta Falcons, granted they didn't win a
Super Bowl, they got three. What happened to the l

(01:20:33):
A Rams? Nobody questioned the air on Donald contract. Aaron
Donald's great. Obviously, people questioned Jared goff contract. A lot
of people didn't question the Todd Gurley contract. I did
look at those deals. Now, the Rams flaw is did
they have to pay Todd Gurley year early? No, but

(01:20:54):
also given Todd Gurley that second contract, which to this
point the Chiefs haven't done to any their running backs.
I understand. So it's the construction is a little different.
And Pat Mahomes is far better than Jared goff is.
I'm not disputing any of that. But the idea that
you're dependent upon Pat Mahomes to bail you out of

(01:21:16):
any mistakes that you make, that one's gonna be interesting.
Now for for bread Beach or for Andy Reid. It
should be noted that Andy Reid has been able to
build it. He had kind of the the mini dynasty.
The Patriots were the Dynasty. They were the model, but
their model was very different than anybody else's model, and

(01:21:39):
that was because they had the ability to have Tom
Brady take less money and they were willing to jettison
guys a year earlier Richard Seymour's rather than wait till
it was too late. That was their model. What the
Chiefs are doing is is the model of the current NFL.
But it also current NFL is still really really hard

(01:22:00):
to build a consistent winner this way because inevitably somebody
does get hurt and somebody does fade before their contract
says they should fade. And when those two things happen,
all of a sudden, you have issues. You have issues. Um,
I gotta call a couple of guys out here that

(01:22:22):
they have these shows now which are kind of like
athlete only shows. Have you seen this new one with
Cam Newton and with Odell Beckham Jr. Victor Cruz I
believe hosted. It's on YouTube, and Uh, it's fascinating to
me because when you're with a room full of guys

(01:22:43):
and Lebron has this with his barbershop show, you're with
a room full of guys, you can say things and
for whatever reason, the true idea of a barbershop show
or sitting around having a drink and is there should
be somebody who calls BS on you. But there are
no all BS guys on these shows the media. A
couple examples. First year's Cam Newton. We have to talk

(01:23:06):
about the elephant in the room, and it's like, you
know you who you you're coming after? And I'm like, yeah, great,
what he was, what he is is great, needs no
even talking about it. But one thing about it, though,
Coach McDaniels, You're able to call some stuff that we've
never been able to call. Now you're getting dog. You're
getting one of these tick dolf dogs. Two days like bro,

(01:23:29):
And I'm looking at the I'm like, who we played?
That team passed on me? Okay, that team passed on me.
They could have game and got me. Okay. I looked
at the Patriots schedule and I'm wondering who those teams
are that he says passed on him, because I don't
know if they actually exist. That's the problem with it.

(01:23:49):
The Dolphins are their first game, and he could say
the Dolphins passed on him, but they had Ryan Fitzpatrick,
who's been fine, been good, as a backup and a
part time starter, and they drafted to a tongue of Violo, who,
frankly they things for. So if the Dolphins are the
team that he's saying passed on him, no one thought
Cam Newton to the Miami Dolphins made sense. The Seahawks, no,

(01:24:10):
the Raiders no, the Chiefs no, the Broncos down. They
kind of like this Drew Lock thing. The Niners know,
the Bills no, the Jets no, the Ravens no, the
Texans no, the Cardinals know. The Chargers. Maybe maybe Tyrod
Taylor has been to the playoffs more recently than Cam
Newton has, but that's not all the way until December.
Not all the way till December. I mean, you're just

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that's the problem with these shows, is there there's no Look, dude,
I get it. You're ticked off, you're mad, you're trying
to prove everybody wrong, and you're a former m VP
of the league. You wouldn't have Cam Newton wouldn't have
been so successful unless he was hyper competitive, unless he
created these enemies that didn't exist. But is there just
one guy in the room that was like, well, what

(01:24:57):
team passed on you? Tell me the team's name because
I don't see him in your schedule. And then there's
Odell Beckham Jr. Saying he almost retired when he broke
his ankle with the Giants. You didn't almost retire, You
thought about retiring to get out of here. Would they
create these shows where guys sit around and stars talk
to other stars with the idea of here's what it's

(01:25:19):
really like. But if that's what it's really like, that's
not a fun conversation. Guys talking about themselves in third
person as if they're super super great, and just making
things up that don't actually exist, like for example, for example,
Cam Newton saying they're gonna play against all these teams

(01:25:40):
that passed on him, And oh yeah, by the way,
Josh McDaniels will be able to call place he didn't
call it before, but he also won't be able to
call certain places he used to be able to call.
It does in fact work both ways. And Odell Beckham Jr.
Was not retiring after in his third year in the
league because he broke his ankle, and if he was,
then he didn't link football at all. Bo Ball is
just something he does. So look the Chris Jones deal

(01:26:06):
is it was inevitable, it was gonna get done. They're excited,
but with the general reaction that Mahomes contract and Chris Jones,
they're gonna win two, three, four more super Bowls. Better
do it in the short term because long term that
cap is going to be an absolute mess. While to
go down, it's gonna go down for the next two years.

(01:26:27):
Then it spikes, might spike back up, but the big
damage might be done. And for Cam, you're super motivated
and we get it. At some point you have to
realize there's a reason that teams weren't willing to extend.
Even the Patriots paid him less than a million dollars.

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And Odell Beckham Jr. Wasn't retiring because he broke his ankle.
Just these things were not actually happening. We're not happening alright.
Coming up next, Frank Vogel is worried about missing Rondo.
Is he right? Or should Lebron be worried about his
title hopes? We'll discuss text. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at

(01:27:10):
three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio A app Doug Otlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio. This was Frank Vogel talking about two
missing re Gen Rondo due to a broken thumb. Rojan
is a huge loss for our team. But we expect
Rosen to be part of our playoff run. You know,
we're looking at sixty weeks puts us somewhere around the

(01:27:32):
first second round of the playoffs, and um, you know,
we're very confident that you know, he will he'll be
able to get back and uh, you'll be a major
factor for us, uh in in playing our playoff run. Yeah,
I just I guess the big thing is, Um, the

(01:27:53):
big thing is this. I don't love Rondo and Vogel
being on the same team because Vogel looks and sees
Rondo and things Rondo, Celtics Rondo, right, And it's hard
not to It's hard not to go, like, man, playoff rondo? Correct,

(01:28:20):
But what is playoff Rondo? Like? When was that? What
was it? The it was the two games that he
played with the Chicago Bulls before he got hurt. Is
that what it was against the Boston Celtics. Is that
the playoff rondo that you're referring to, because during that year,

(01:28:44):
you know, he averaged seven points a game. He had
two games playing against Bulls backups. He's thinking of Rondo
going back six, seven, eight years ago, maybe even ten
years ago. Rondo is not a good finisher, not a
good shooter, and his defense has always been more than

(01:29:08):
modestly overrated. It just is I know that he has
he gotten. He's gotten to where he can make open
threes in a game he's making before. Now, when you
have a broken thumb, you're not doing a ton of
shooting and getting ready to come back and play. He's
not a floor spacer. He's not a great finisher, he's

(01:29:31):
not the same defender, and he has a head coach
that looks at him as if he was ten years
younger than he actually is. That is fine, but he's
thirty three. He's been hurt a ton, He's a Shellvan's
former self, and even in the best, Rondo isn't a
great fit for Lebron. Lebron needs a point guard, much

(01:29:55):
like how Michael Jordan's had a point guard, which is
I need somebody who can play off me and can
shoot the basketball. I don't need anybody who can who
can only get to the basket, can only play around
the hoop, can dribble the ball and make passes. Doesn't
really get by people in Finnish great and I just

(01:30:17):
it's not a great fit. Just not. Let's get you
Dan Buyer and find out what else is going on
debut What I got, Doug. A lot of news in
the National Football League, starting in Cleveland, Miles Garrett getting
an extension. NFL Network says it's a five year extension
worth one and twenty five million dollars that would be
tacked on to the final two years of his rookie deal.
Breaking down the average of that five year extension million

(01:30:40):
dollars per season. That would be the most for a
defensive player in NFL history, topping Khalil max mark of
twenty three and a half million dollars. Chiefs of defensive
lineman Chris Jones have come to terms at a four
year extension worth eight million dollars bucks pass Russia Shack
Barrett assigned his franchise tender. He's still, though, filing a
grievance saying he would be tagged as a fensive end
and should be taken as a defensive end and not

(01:31:02):
a linebacker. Justin Simmons and the Broncos gonna send his
franchise tender, but nin news in Denver says don't expect
the Sounds to come to a long term deal by
tomorrow's deadline. Oklahoma had football coach Lincoln Riley told the
reporters that he can't imagine not having a football season,
even if it has moved to the spring. Riley added
a shortened season could be a possibility, with health and
safety being the most important things and ultimately the designing factor.

(01:31:24):
The Tokyo Organizing Committee for the Summer Games say they
are trying to simplify the postponed games for next summer
and make them more efficient. The aps as cutbacks could
include fewer services being provided, but the number of athletes
and events won't change. And some news from the NBA.
King's Harrison Barnes testing positive for COVID nineteen, as did
Brooklyn Nets forward Michael Beasley, who just recently agreed the

(01:31:45):
terms with the team. The Athletics says that Beasley has
returned home and may not play for the Nets. Is
they look to possibly fill his roster spot, Doug, that's
the most Michael Beasley story ever, right, Yes, And there
are a lot of them. Yes, there there are a
lot of them. But the idea that like he signed
off the street to play for the Nets, that of
all these dudes that are opting out due to coronavirus,

(01:32:06):
is like, look, I don't know Beasley is available, is
call him and then he goes all the way down
there and he gets popped for you know, for coronavirus.
The only thing that would be better is if he
caught the rhona off of a blunt that he was
smoking somebody else's blood. He's like, man, I just shouldn't
have to hit that out of the blunt. I don't
know what I mean. That would be the most Michael
Beasley story ever. That is a he is a some

(01:32:27):
of it his own fault, but some of it just
a lot of bad luck into some bad luck in
his in his Uh did now does he get credit
for having Do we say that he played for the Nets?
Is he a former net? What do you think? How
many teams do you think Michael Beasley has played for?
Without looking? Um, seven, three, four, five six seven, You're

(01:32:56):
right seven. That was what I was thinking. You know,
Heat he started with, he started Miami. Heat was sweet
first started with and he went to Minnesota. Actually, okay,
well Miami, Minnesota, Phoenix. He did go back to Miami,
then Houston, Milwaukee, the Knicks and the Lakers last year.

(01:33:16):
You know, uh, and then I I do the account?
Does that count? I don't think so. I don't think
he can remember when the was it? Uh? They had
him and O J. Mayo in the n C Double
A tournament was in USC Kansas State. That's that's maybe
what I remember most when it was like, wow, who

(01:33:37):
did us? Yes? And then was that after USC beat Texas? Um?
I thought it was the first round. I thought. I
thought it was like a seven tent six eleven game,
I thought, But I could be wrong. I thought it
was in Omaha. I thought that's that that that sounds right.
USC can't Let's say Kansas State. I'll look it up. Okay,

(01:33:58):
um and see a right, let's let's see what that?
What that? What you're okay? So that was two thousand
and eight they played against each other. But what what
what would be interesting is I remember USC beating beating
Texas and for some that's eleven six eleven game, six
eleven game in Kansas State one and I and that

(01:34:20):
was Frank Martin was Frank Martin the head coach then
I think he was so um, it must have been
a different year in which Texas beat Kevin Durant, because
Kevin Rant wasn't night year Texas seven. So interesting. Yeah,
And and O J. Mayo, you know he he got

(01:34:40):
he's suspended for drugs, right, Yeah, he's had all kinds
of problems. Fascinating. Yeah, those are two can't missrs. And
I guess they didn't like this is what's interesting about
how we look at guys. They would both be determined.
They termed to be bust. O J. Mayo even more
so than um than Michael Beasley. On the other hand,

(01:35:02):
they did make it to the league. They were high
first round draft picks. They did make a good amount
of money. Whether the whether O J. Meyo has that
money or not, I don't know. But I don't know
if you determine those guys to be busted because they
did play and have some level of success for a
short period of time in the NBA. That's a fascinating
one to me. But Michael Beasley is no longer a

(01:35:25):
Brooklyn net or he's not going to make the trip.
Let's get to Brady Quinn who joints as you can
hear them on Fox Sports Trade of course, former quarterback
not just of Notre Dame, but of the Cleveland Browns. Brady,
Let's start with college football. You talk to all these guys,
you know what's going on in sports? Do you think
we got a season coming? I do. I think there's
a lot of parties that want to have a season.

(01:35:47):
But I think there's a big conflict is if you're
not gonna have students on campus, how do you just
straight admit that you're going to have student athletes on
campus that are going to play in sports, maybe just
in particular football. It's because it generates revenue, right, That
kind of goes against this whole idea that they're amateurs.
And you know, if you know, I have students on campus,
but you have athletes on campus, you know, how are

(01:36:09):
you subjecting them to potentially being unsafe and being in
certain conditions compared to other students or the rest of
the student But I think that could I give you
the counter to that? No, No, I've already got the counterfact.
I'm not wanting to believe that, like I would actually
say that, and just given my experience, there's no safer
place for these student athletes than being on campus where

(01:36:31):
they're or they're constantly you know, they're constantly monitored. They
have nutritionists, they have they have a trainers, they have doctors,
they have they're going to receive the best care if
they do get COVID and like and even until that
point in time, I think it's the best place for
them to be for probably their mental well being, which
no one wants to take into consideration how this is
impacting so many young people right now as far as

(01:36:54):
their mental wellness. So, uh, look, I'm one that thinks
that that's where they should be and hopefully there will
be a season. However, that does come with some risk,
and I think that's something that they've got to figure out.
You know, how great is that risk and if it's
worth potentially putting you know, someone's future lives at risk
or you know, putting their health at risk. Yeah, no, listen,
I I totally agree with you. It's it's funny the

(01:37:16):
mental health of so many writers who seemed so negative
about the COVID numbers. Um, it's like for players and
for for athletes like dude, getting back out there and
getting your guys like that. I'll give you an example.
My son's eleven years old and he wants to be
something right. He plays football, basketball, baseball, and he likes
to surf. And during quarantine, like, we didn't let him

(01:37:37):
interact with any of his buddies. It was just me
and him out in the driveway, me and him out
of the baseball field, um, or the hitting machine, or
me and him throwing footballs or running routes or whatever
like that. That that was what it was. And like
happiest kid on earth. And he went through a phase
where he just wasn't great and we started, Um, a

(01:37:58):
buddy of mine, we we run a basketball program and
we start doing some workouts. We limited his six kids
outdoors own ball. The second we let him do that,
it was after quarantine started to end. Um, he was
like a different kid. He was back, right, he's back.
And I can only tell you that, you know, for
college kids, it's no different. And like you said, it's
not like they're in a bubble and they're at home

(01:38:19):
and they're in quarantine. Like you're either out and about
at home or you're in the protective environment of of
college football. And then the other argument I would make
is this one, and of course Braddy Quinn joining us
UH Fox College and UH pro football analysts. Of course
you can hear them on Fox Sports Radio. Most of
these dudes take online courses anyway, as long as you're
in class, it doesn't matter it's online or if it's

(01:38:41):
in person. That doesn't really change if you're playing football. Yeah,
there's there's some kids who never stepped out foot in
the classroom anymore. I mean literally, they take all their
classes online. I mean HERM Edwards and Arizona State has
talked about their kind of pro model and they're approached
everything with their personnel department. But a lot of those
young men, you know, some of them never stepped foot
the actual classroom. So, by the way, there's nothing wrong

(01:39:04):
with that. It's kind of how things have adapted anyway,
in regardless of just you know, schools and you know,
the kids education and just what they're asked to do
too once they get out there and get in the
real world and have a job. But I think that's
the thing is we've we've got a bunch of people
who are writing about this subject like they like they've
experienced and they've been through it, and I think If

(01:39:24):
you ask most former athletes, they would tell you that
they'd rather be out there playing. They would rather, you know,
take that risk and go play and be in the
environment to be around their coaches, their teammates, are staff like,
they trust them, and they'd much rather take that opportunity
to go play than not. Maybe that's just my opinion
and meybe, that's my experience and how I would have

(01:39:45):
felt going back when I was at Notre Dame. Maybe
kids are different now, you know, maybe they are more
scared of of what's out there right now. But based
on my research and just my opinion with all this is,
I would I would not feel safer anywhere else other
than at at my university, at my school with that's
Notre Dame or anywhere else. So does Notre Dame become
a de facto a CC member because of this? It

(01:40:06):
looks like that's gonna be the case. Um, you know,
it sounds like John Forford, the commissioner for the a CEC,
isn't gonna let Notre Dame obviously kind of be you know,
hung out to dry. And then this whole regard, I
think the interesting thing about that, because a lot of
people have kind of made a case for all this
is this is the year where you really turn the
screws on Notre Dame and make them join a conference.
And I find it ironically because we don't even know

(01:40:27):
if we were playing for a national championship, you know,
we might have a conference only schedule where there is
no postseason. And so then it's like, all right, well,
I'm not sure that's the best example. Then, since you know,
we've used this college football playoff and that thirteenth game
indicator that the conference championship as a reason why Notre
Dame you know, might you know, want to get no conference,
But I'm not sure this is the year to use

(01:40:48):
it as an example. And I say the last thing is,
you know, I think if you're gonna use this year
as an example for something, it's the fact that you
could have nine conference games this year, right, because the
Big Twelve has ten teams, and so at most could
have nine conference games without adding a non conference opponent.
And so the idea would be, why don't we get
a level playing through in college football? Why not use

(01:41:08):
this as an opportunity where you have other conferences in
the Power five to play eight, Now make them play
nine and then if you if we can have a
postseason or you know they won't have a postseason, we
can figure it out how those teams play out from there.
But um, you know, I Notre name will have a
season though you know they'll be probably all a CC opponents,
unless you know, someone like Navy or something like that,
they can they can continue to make that commitment. But

(01:41:30):
that's how I think it will end up working out
for Notre Dame Bertie Quinn joining us in the Doug
got lips Shaw on Fox Sport trade. Let's let's let's
pick your NFL brain. Um, Pat Mahomes gets a huge
deal first three years though not a ton against the cap,
allows them to sign sixty million guarantee eighty five overall
for for Chris Jones. What are your thoughts on the
Chiefs and the move they made today. Yeah, look, when

(01:41:51):
when they signed Patrick Mahomes to was a ten year
extension which really amounted to will be under contract now
for twelve years. He became the mortgage company for the Chiefs.
If you look at the mechanisms that they put employees,
especially in the back half of this deal, they essentially
allowed him to guarantee future earnings a year early, if
that makes any sense, and they did it in the
form of roster bonuses, right, And so what that allows

(01:42:14):
them to do is then turn on this mechanism where
they can convert what there was already capt planned for
and they could turn that into a signing bonus and
then pro rate it or spread it out over the
remaining years of his contract. So they essentially allowed every
time three years, four years down the road, they've got
to whether Travis Kelsey, who's gonna be probably one of
the new contracts soon, or anyone else they need to resign.

(01:42:35):
They basically look at patch from homes contract. They're gonna
have to convert whatever, you know, amount of money they
need to create that that cap space into a signing
bonus and then they'll spread it out over the length
of the deal and it makes it more cap friendly
and it gives them more space. And obviously this is
taken into account that Patrick Momes is healthy and he's
playing at the high level like we've seen him play,

(01:42:55):
and so I think that's going to be the case
moving forward. That's why the contract made sense of the team,
or I think obviously the contract made sense for for
Patrick moving forward, How hard though, is it going to
be for them to to to keep this role? And
you still have Mahomes, you got Jones, you got Frank Clark,
you got Tyron Matthew. But you have this like you
got the rich and then you got the poor. There's
no real middle class there. And you do run the

(01:43:18):
risk of of it one injury to one of the
to one of the big earners, and now suddenly you're
kind of plugging holes with whatever is on the market. Yeah, no,
that that's always the risk you run. But they also
have done a good job of drafting and be able
to supplement to find the guys who obviously come at
a much more economical rate. Whether that's veteran guys they've
been able to supplement and on the roster, or it's

(01:43:40):
been draft picks. They've been able to hit on one
thorn Hill until we got hurt their second round pick,
the safety out of Virginia. You know, he was playing phenomenal,
you know, and and and so he's like he's a
guy with a lot of upsides. So and look, if
this continues that they continue to have success, you know
what this is gonna happen because Samuel Watkins already mentioned this,
like guys are gonna start taking less to go play
with Patrick Mahomes, go win a super Bowl and being

(01:44:01):
Kansas City and be with Andy Reid. Like that's that
that that's the Patrick Mahomes effect now, where guys start
taking less just to be able to try to go
win rings, wins championships. And it looks like, you know,
we saw that in New England for a time with
Tom Brady, and it looks like maybe, you know, people
are gonna start being willing to do that with the
Kansas City Chiefs, with Patrick Mahomes, Brady Queen joining us
in the Doug Otlips Show on Fox Sports Radio, what

(01:44:23):
do you think of Cam Newton and the Patriots? I
love it, I really do. I mean, look, I'm someone
who's always been a fan of Cam just because I
don't know that there's been anyone else that I played
against there ever saw and thought, holy hell, like at
any point in time in the game, he could sprint
and take off sixty five yards for a touchdown, or

(01:44:43):
he could heave at seventy seventy five yards for a
touchdown to beat you, like you just never felt comfortable,
you never felt confident ever playing against him, just because
of his his raw natural abilities. And I know people
have said, you know, all this stuff about you know,
his his a tire off the field, or his a
meaner or the social media productions. But it's it's it's
funny because, like, didn't the New England Patriots just have

(01:45:05):
a quarterback like that? And Tom Brady, I mean, he's
pretty involved in social media. He's pretty fashionable, you know,
I'm pretty sure last time I checked, he's he's married
to one of the richest supermodels in the world. So
it's it's just odd that that people would think there
would be an issue, that have an issue, Like I
actually think this will be a really good system for
him too, in part because if you look at what
North Turner was doing with him. Uh but before we

(01:45:28):
obviously got hurt last year, the two years ago, they
were already starting to spread out the field. You know,
Christian McCaffrey was was utilized as kind of a a wide
receiver at the running back spot that was position out
and there was already a lot of empty sets. So
a lot of the things that Josh Mcanenels likes to
do in his system and giving control to quarterbacks. It
will fit perfectly with what Cam can do, and they'll
have a package for him to be able to take

(01:45:50):
off and run and do all those sorts of things.
You know, Josh is very flexible like that with this system.
So I think it's gonna be a much better fit
than people realize. And I think if Camp's healthy, we
might see the best Cam Newon we've ever seen. And
you know that even takes into account of MVP season.
Bretty Quinn joining us to the Doug Gotlips Show on
Fox Sports Radio that said he did have you know,

(01:46:12):
did have major shoulder issues, and the people I've talked
to like, we just don't know about his shoulder itself. Um,
and then you have he had to live Frank, He's
had other ankle issues. I know, we all remember the
freak of nature that is Cam Newton, the type of
athlete we hadn't seen before we could throw the football.
But is he still that guy we just want to see?

(01:46:33):
And he played the games? I mean that's the only
way of really being able to tell. I mean, look,
if you follows social media accounts, you see him working out.
I don't have any doubts just from watching that. I mean,
I have the guys and Adonis. He's a physical freak,
so um, it looks like he's ready to going, ready
to play right now. Um. But look, the biggest show
for him, and my concern is really it's really not

(01:46:53):
the physical, it's more of the mental. It is because
Josh is so particular about how he wants his offense.
And I was with the two thousand times in Denver
and he's he's very, very particular about it, and the
verbage is a lot. It's gonna be a big transition
as far as the language that he's speaking, you know,
it might be the similar concepts some of the things
they are doing with the past protection, but as far

(01:47:15):
as how what he's saying and how he's saying it,
it's gonna be very different than what he's experienced in
the past. Yeah, but would they do you think they
will go to more of the what they did with Tebow,
you know, and what they did that that that's a misnomer.
Though people act like Tim Tim had like six rush
attempts when Josh McDaniels was actually the play calling. People
don't realize Josh got fired twelve games in the two

(01:47:36):
thousand tents of season, and he hit no intentions of
playing Tim as a quarterback. The package that we had
that year was really nothing other than goal on shore yardage.
There was nothing else. I mean it was the following
year where again we didn't have a package for Tim. Well,
we ended up doing was adjusting our offense in a
in a big way to be able to put in

(01:47:56):
read the things that he felt comfortable with, some of
the stuff that you know, Adam Gates talked to Irban
Meyer about with Mike mccoyre offensive coordinator, to be able
to run similar concepts that he had back means a
Florida so and but none of that took place until
he actually got put into the game and started playing
because they didn't know how the whole thing was gonna
work out. So there's there's this idea, like you know,

(01:48:18):
and then a bunch of the big place people. Fully,
it was scrambling off of a drop back. It wasn't
like it was designed run. I mean, hell, he scored
a touchdown against Oakland. I want to say this might
have been back in in two thousand ken though, but
he scored a touchdown against him. We called a draw.
The player was called forty. Well, when Karl Buckholter wanted
to get the handoff, Tim never handed it off. He
just followed him up the hole and it happened to

(01:48:39):
be the perfect coverage for that particular play call. It
was two man, so there's no one responsible for the quarterback.
Not only did they have a lead blocker and Carl
buck Halter a running back, but then he just scampered
off right through the middle of the field of score
touchdown versus the Raiders. I think we end up losing
the game, but nonetheless, that was kind of how some
of those plays worked out. Yeah, becoming eleven eleven football
and just just just off a field. It's it's gonna

(01:49:01):
be fascinating to see. Uh, Brady, great stuff as always.
Hope you're healthy and thanks for joining us. Thanks. All right,
that's the great Brady Queen joining us in the Doug
gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, coming up next,
look at the press man. There's a some stories in
this sucker. We gotta get buyer his space, huge news,

(01:49:23):
huge chair with you next. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. Let's get to the press,
the press, Let's get to the road. Mazda c X dirty.
What do you got there? And when you when you
leave the house, wear the mask? Got to wear the mask?

(01:49:43):
Good news, Doug. Yes, this. You don't wear the mask
in the car though, it's a big misconception, like have
the mask in the pocket. Then when you get out
of the car. It is good for self breath check though,
right like before, you don't have to go up to
your body go I'm a rithmel now you just go
bad hot. I do take it. I do take it
off in the car. I do wear it on outside,
you know, from the parking garage to the studios. Keep

(01:50:05):
it on obviously in the studios, in the hallways. But
but yeah, with the mask. But some good news, Doug.
Not even sports related. But COVID nineteen related, the first
vaccine tested in the United States and revved up people's
immune systems the way scientist had hoped. Dr Anthony Fauci saying, quote,

(01:50:26):
no matter how you slice this, this is good news.
Thirty thousand person study was done. The vaccine, if you
will would need to take uh you'd have to take
two doses of it a month apart. There were some
side effects that the fatigue, headache, and chills, but researchers
said that those went away UM after maybe a day

(01:50:50):
or two. The higher dosed volunteers UM suffered the most extreme.
They probably wouldn't go to UH to the doses that
they gave them. But very positive news a good first step,
according to UH experts in the vaccine department. Okay, look,
that's all really really good news. What reasonable side effect

(01:51:13):
do you least like? Okay, I'm gonna give you a
little list here, right, headache, severe headache, Yeah, not a fan,
not a fani, I'd rather have. What about? What about?
What about itching and rash itching in possible rap? Yeah,
that's not good. Nausea is my worst nause Yeah I'm

(01:51:33):
not a nausea guy. But but you're it's nausea. But
then you're nauseous, right, how can you not nauseous? I
don't know that. I'm not sure. I'm only in sports
talk radio. The fatigue, headache, chills, fever, and pain at
the injection site where some of the UH some of

(01:51:54):
the pain in the injection site. It hurt me that
I got a shot that saved my life. But it
sounds good. This is good news, very uh yeah, good news.
I don't want to overstate it. No, No, it's not
like we're done, we're cured. We're out. Let's go out
and party Saturday Mazdas and go over to John Romilson.

(01:52:18):
But uh, Myles Garretti's up to celebrate could get a
five year extension from the Browns. NFL Network says it's
worth a d and twenty five million dollars. Yeah, we'll
be tacked on the end of his rookie deal, which
had two years left, but the extension basically we're twenty
five million year uh, most for any defensive player in
NFL history, topping Khalil Max. So wow. Um, we just

(01:52:39):
said I can't all forget that. He like said that
Mason Rudolph topped an Enbom and nobody actually believes him, right.
I don't know if I honestly still think that that's
his reputation, Like I think that's That's what I'm okay
with that. If you go like, yeah, he makes up
he makes up racial slurs, but he's a really good

(01:53:00):
fo all player and seems to be a smart enough
dude to not do anything really stupid off the football page.
You're like, okay, I'm okay, Like I do think that
at the end of the day, your job is to
be a football player, not to be a perfect citizen.
Tomorrow's yeah, I don't like what he I believe made
up about Mason Rudolph. Don't like that at all, But yeah,

(01:53:20):
I would like him to be a good citizen. Doesn't
have to be perfect, but nobody's perfect. Tomorrow is the
deadline for the franchise players to sign long term deals
with their teams. Dak Prescott not likely to get one
with the Cowboys, same thing with Derrick Henry. Broncos fans
Justin Simmons is signing his franchise Tag nine News in
Denver my Cliffs saying that don't expect a long term

(01:53:43):
deal between the sides. And then there's another player to mention,
Ian Rapp Report of the NFL Network saying the Jaguar
still could trade defensive end unique Can gock Way, who
has yet to sign his franchise tender. Obviously he's wanted
out of Jackson, but for a while, but maybe something
to watch in the next twenty four hours. We'll keep
an eye on it. Nine News. We'll keep an eye
on it. The NBA Atonymous hotline as received tips about
protocol violations DOUG within the Orlando bubble. That's according to

(01:54:06):
The Athletic. The report adds that some players have received
warnings with the league stressing social distancing and mask regulations.
NBA player most likely to call the tipline Chris Paul.
Like Chris Paul, Oh, Chris Paul has got his Apple
Watch ready to go to make a call. Harrison Barnes

(01:54:27):
of the Sacram the King's Distant positive for COVID nineteen,
as did new Nets forward Michael Beasley, so he may
not even play a game with the team, but could
open up a roster spot for Brooklyn Nicola. Yokis back
with the Nuggets. He tested positive, but in the bubble today,
not yet practicing with the team, though he looked thin
and in great shape, although the Nuggets very different team
outside of that altitude as Ash you know as a benefactor.

(01:54:50):
By the way, if you missed our Ben Golliver email
from the bubble, feel free to down the dug Out
the Show podcast after this show concludes. What else he
got now tonight would have been or should have been
Major League Baseball All Star Game at Dodger Stadium. That's
not gonna happen, obviously, but there is some Dodgers Stadium news.
Dodgers now joining the list of Major League Baseball teams
that are offering fans the opportunity to purchase a cut

(01:55:12):
out of themselves to be placed in empty seats for
games this season. Two price ranges hundred forty nine dollars
for the field or loge level dugout club two hundred
and nine dollars. You can apparently write it off, um
because the funds go to the Los Angeles Dodgers Foundation.
But yeah, three hundred bucks for a cutout behind home plate?

(01:55:34):
How am I say, Marlin's man give you at every game.
That's a great point. He's going broke buying cutouts of
himself for all thirty ballparks. Uh, let's see what else?
Like a great gag gift? Kill a birthday president like
check out. Look, I couldn't take it a Dodger game,
except that could. Yeah, if anybody got me that as
a gift, you can have spent the hundred fifty bucks

(01:55:57):
on something else. Yeah, I just prefer the hun fifty dollars, right,
hundred and fifty dollars, Okay, Daniel Jeremiah Tomorrow. There's somebody
else tomorrow. I saw on the list. I can't remember now.
My brain is fried, absolutely fried fried. Oh. Dustin Vorche
Jones cool, Dustin check will find out what he thinks.
Big twelve hasn't spoken out about having a season, not

(01:56:20):
having season, not having conference play either. Look the Chiefs,
this is part of the plan. Mahomes a little bit
less early money hits late. They get Chris Jones, but
it becomes a top heavy roster, a really good roster
that's the favorite to win another super Bowl, but top
every roster hard to win consecutive super Bowls that way.
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