July 14, 2020 • 44 mins
Doug reacts to the Chiefs giving out another big contract and why we need to slow down before we claim Kansas City is the next dynasty in the NFL. He also calls out Cam Newton for trying to claim he's motivated to play against all the teams that passed on him in free agency. Plus, NBA Insider Ben Golliver joins the show live from the NBA bubble in Orlando to share insight on what quarantine is like and what to expect from the completion of the 2020 season.
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We got a lot to talk about the NBA bubble, which, Um,
I want to make sure that I point this out.
I didn't break that Russell Westbrook and James Harden had
the Rhona, but I didn't sinuate when I was on
Cowherds Show yesterday. Anyway. Um, Pat Mahomes is uh tweeting out,
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got my boy locked up at Stone Cole Jones, it's
Chris Jones. The Chiefs and started Evens tackled Chris Jones
have breached day four year extension with million dollars per
the Cats Brothers. That's their agent. His agent sixty million
dollars in total guarantees at Stone Cole Jones. Let's go.
The dynasty continues to run it back sack nation. The
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general reaction after Pat Mahomes his contract, now Chris Jones contract,
is how many more super Bowls can the Chiefs win?
Not one, not two, not three? Not right. Here's the
issue that we know about the NFL. All right, getting
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to the super Bowl really really hard. Getting back to
the super Bowl is much harder. Right, what happened after
you get to a super Bowl? What's that pat Riley
always called a disease of me rams loss to the Patriots.
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They paid Jared Goff, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald was the
best in his position in the sport at what he does,
Todd Gurley, Brandon Cooks, a couple of injuries, and they
missed the playoffs. The reason the Pats had long term
success was they just didn't overpay one player. They didn't.
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And while I would agree with anyone, and we said
it at the time, that Pat Mahomes contract doesn't really
crush the team in terms of this salary cap the
first three years. Remember you're acting as if this salary
cap is going to remain, and we told you it
will not it will go down. So you look at
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Chris Jones and he's really good at what he does.
And how the Chiefs are trying to build themselves for
the future is and we get a couple of great
pass rushers, we got an awesome quarterback, we gotta protect
him with an offensive line, and then we gotta find
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mix and match of skill position players. And look, they
are helped out by the fact that Tyreek kill has
been such a knucklehead off the football field that in
spite of the fact he's a top five, top ten
talent as a whatever you want to call him. He's
a wide receiver, but they use them all over the
field that he's never going to get top dollar because
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he's always one recorded conversation or one incident from being
out of the league. But Travis Kelsey hasn't gotten paid yet,
has he. That's going to happen. He's arguably the best
or second best at what he does in the National
Football League. So I look at this and I'm hey,
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congratulates everybody gets theirs and Pat Mahomes leaving a little
bit on the table for the first couple of years.
Not in reality, because he gets a hundred and three
million by next March, a hundred forty million total by
the following March. But in the reality of the salary
cap isn't it doesn't actually change much this year and
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next year. While there's a change, it's only in the
twenty million range, not in the thirties or forties what
he's actually getting paid. That said, the Chiefs are trying
to do what all championships teams try to do. Hey, look,
this is what happened to the Ravens twice over. The
first time the Ravens won the Super Bowl, they had
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the greatest defense ever and all of those guys got
paid and eventually they were capped out and they had
to remake themselves. They did. And the second time, they
want to remember, Joe Flacco got a huge contract. And
I'm not sitting here disputing anyone that says, well, Pat
Mahomes was way better than Joe Flacco. He is, but
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can you protect him? Can you stop anybody? Though the
Chiefs were one were one off sides away from going
to a Super Bowl previously, let's be honest, they had
to dramatically fix their defense last offseason in order to
get back to that position. Now you overpay for your
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best pieces. And what's that everybody says your better draft
really really well. So you miss on a draft pick,
you have a big injury, you become top heavy, you
become you know, front loaded. Like there's there's no difference
in this than the Golden State Warriors. The Warriors had
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Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and Draymond Green, and then
they won seventy three games, and suddenly they lost in
the NBA Finals up three games the one of the
Cleveland Cavaliers. Had they not been able to get a
Kevin Durant, that little mini dynasty might have ended. Even
getting Kevin Durant. They then win two championships, and now
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because of injury and contract being up, they had to
remake themselves again. Now, look what I take two or
three Super bowlts if I'm the Chiefs when I waited
fifty years for just one. Sure, sure, but what's past
is precedent, right, what happened previously is precedent for what's
happening now. And what's happening now is everybody gets paid.
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You know, you gotta keep drafting as they did this year,
or running backs late first, early second, and then never
give him a second contract. You gotta find deals on
defensive backs, which become harder and harder and harder. You
gotta hope that your top paid guys that have the
biggest salary cap hits don't get injured. That's easier with
Pat Mahomes, although he did just dislocate his kneecap last year,
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than it is with Chris Jones, who like look defensive
lineman offensive lineman. Guys fall unerneath their legs all the time.
I'm not saying I don't like this deal. He's a
tremendous pass pass rusher, He's Chris Jones is awesome. Pat
Mahomes is awesome. But they are repeating the same pattern
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as many championship teams before. And maybe Pat Mahomes is
just better, is just different, is just able to rise
above what no one else is able to rise above.
I'm willing more than willing to agree with that. And
while the salary cap hit from his new contract isn't
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that severe, it does give you a distinct window before
it cranks up, and in that window, we believe the
salary cap will actually go down not go up and
he and during all of this time, you still have
to hope those top paid players don't get hurt, or
you don't miss on draft picks, or the league doesn't
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change right before your eyes. So I think it's it's
a fascinating time to be a Cancie Chief fan, because
like so many other teams, you're like, man, you get
greedy about winning, you fall in love with your players,
and then you sit there and go like, wait, hey,
how did the Patriots stay competitive for the last twenty years?
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Their best player, most important player, never took as much
as he could get, and they spread the money out
as much as they possibly could. And now look, in
fairness to Chris Jones, the other thing the Patriots have
done is if you've got a great player, you do
pay to keep them right. You're much better off paying
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your own guys that you know a lot about than
you are paying somebody else's guys that you really have
an incomplete, uh incomplete backstory on because he don't work
with him on a daily basis. Chris Jones signs a
mega deal, the Kansity Chiefs seem to want to run
it back. It seems easy enough, and then you ask yourself, Wait,
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why didn't fill it up? Why doesn't Philadelphia been the
same since they won a Super Bowl? Why hasn't Atlanta
been back since they went to the Super Bowl one
they should have won? Why we did it? Were the
Rams out of the playoffs after being one of the
young dynamic teams in the NFL. I think some of
your answers are the same answers that are being provided
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by the Kansity Chiefs today. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio a app. This was Cam Newton
on The Bigger Picture on YouTube, talking about his role
with the Patriots and replacing Tom Brady. We have to
talk about the elephant in the room, and it's like,
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you know you who you you coming after? And I'm like, yeah, great,
what he was, what he is is great? Needs no
even talking about it. But one thing about it, though,
Coach McDaniels, You're able to call some stuff that we've
never been able to call. Now you're getting a doll
You're getting one of these tick Dolf dogs. Two days
like Bro and I'm looking at the SATs. I'm like,
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who we play? That team passed on me? Okay, that
team passed on me, they could have game and got me. Okay,
so let's look at their schedule on that. That team
passed on me that and and look, I don't have
you want motivated dudes. And he's obviously a motivated dude.
There's nothing wrong with that. I motivated Cam Newton is
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a good one. Um. Okay, So the Dolphins would that
be a team that passed on him? Sure, but they
had a plan in place to get to a tongue
of Violoa and they'll probably start, I would guess Ryan
Fitzpatrick at that point in time. The seahawks first road game,
if Cam Newton is the start at the start of
the year, will be in Seattle against the Seahawks. And
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they weren't changing quarterbacks. The Raiders, well, they did sign
Marcus Mariota to be a seven point five in our
year backup, but that was before he was ever released.
And they do have Derek Carr who they could have
bought out but they've chosen to stick with and they
then that's the Chiefs, all right, So where are the
teams that that that passed on him. They could have,
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Like you're just making it up. Everyone knew the Dolphins
were drafting a quarterback. And if we're honest, Ryan Fitzpatrick
has been a better quarterback the past couple of years.
And I'm not a Fitzpatrick guy, but he was a
better quarterback past couple of years than Cam Newton has
been because he's been healthier. Broncos could they have gotten
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Cam Newton, like I guess, and actually that would have
been fascinating to see. But they're all in Andrew lock
forty Niners, no Bills. Yeah, Sean McDermott used to be
his defensive coordinator and Brandon Bean was an assistant GM
when he was there. But they went to the playoffs
last year with Josh Allen's their quarterback. The Jets they
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got Sam Donald, The Ravens they have Lamar Jackson, the
Texans they have Deshaun Watson. The Cardinals they have Okay,
so you're talking about the Chargers on the road who
just draft a quarterback and they think Tyrod Taylor is
a younger, healthier version of Cam Newton, or the Rams
who have their Quille, Like, where are the teams you're
talking about again, I know you can sit there and
go like they could have had me, and like none
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none of these teams were in the market for a quarterback.
Kim Newton is literally living in an alternate universe from reality,
which is cool, which you can do like you can.
We saw this with Jordan with the last dance and
just making up false narratives in order to motivate yourself.
Got it. But I mean, like, where are the team's camp? Yes?
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Can Josh man Daniels call some places he couldn't call before, Yes,
But there's also some place that he always used to
call that he can't call anymore. Do you know why?
Because you're not that accurate? And with with Tom Brady,
they knew each other so well that they could put
in a game plan, and they knew what each other
was thinking, and they talked every day and they had
don't I remember we did this five years ago? Yeah? Yeah,
I remember that. What you're saying is, here's the okay,
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there were teams that weren't interested because they thought his
shoulder was shot. Maybe they were wrong. The doctors thought
Drew brees shoulder was shot. It clearly wasn't. So the
first thing is that that, how can he throw consistently,
not not against air? Can he throw? Can he make
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throws all week long? And then does his arms stand
up to making throws even in the good weather earlier
in the year. And then everyone wants to point out
these highlights from two thousand thirteen and fourteen and fifteen
of him running around like dude, Cam Newton was at burst,
amazing speed, athlete, saticism strength. It's two thousand twenty ye
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had ankle surgery and Liz frank injury. It's not like
the Panthers didn't know what they had, not like Ron Rivera.
Ron Rivera traded for a Carolina Panthers quarterback not named
Kim Dowton traded for Kyle Allen. Had he simply and
he traded for him, had he simply waited a couple
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of weeks a month, could have had Cam Newton, but
he didn't. You don't want that guy's your backup. So
I'm not telling you that I know what Cam Newton
hall looked like. I'm telling you that the Carolina Panthers
felt like they knew and they passed, and Ron Rivera
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knew what he knew and he passed. And then Cam
is living in the same way. He's living in this
alternate universe over who he is and what he can do.
He's also living in this alternate universe in regards to
who passed on him, who had the opportunity to sign him,
because I mean, I guess the Dolphins could have, but
everyone knew they were draft into if they could, right
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Like they were tanking for a year to get a quarterback.
That's their schedule. Dolphins, Seahawks, Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos, Niners, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Texans, Cardinals, Chargers, Rams, Dolphins, Bills, Jets.
Where are the teams that that chunned you? They don't exist.
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Doesn't mean I don't I'm not interested, don't want to
see him succeed. It's just I also deal with reality.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
Ben Goliver joins The Dug Gotlips Show Fox Pull Shure,
I think so much Dan. Ben Goliver is in the bubble,
He writes for The Washington Post. Okay, so have you cleared?
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I saw you pascy uh are we now? Is m um,
we have you cleared quarantine yet? Stuff? First forty eight
hours right where you get that wrist band, you cannot
leave your room? Have you cleared that yet? I'll tell
you what. It's even worse than that, because for the
media members who didn't, you know, get tested for coronavirus
before flying down here and had to fly commercial, our
quarantine is actually seven days. So I've been basically day
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two of a seven day quarantine. I'm still pacing back
and forth in my room. I'm still waiting for my
three meals delivered to my door. I got a long
way to go. Okay, So again, then I I spoke
with UM a couple of people from their rooms yesterday,
and then UM, somebody related to somebody. Okay, so this
is what I was told. You get there, and you
tell me from you get there, You get a key
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to your room, and that it's all. You can only
get in, and once you're in, you can't get out.
And then once you clear quarantine, you have that wrist
bracelet and it's red when you wake up, and then
it checks your vitals and then it turns green. Only
then can you leave your room? Is that is that accurate?
For what you're going through. Yeah, it's pretty close. I
mean I could walk out my front door right now,
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but I do have a green bracelet, and so basically
if security saw me, it would be like the you know,
the tip hotline that you're talking about. They would be
coming after me pretty quick, saying get back in your room,
and my clock would restart. So obviously I'm I'm free
to leave, but not really if I want to continue
reporting on it. Every night, I'm getting tested for the coronavirus.
So they come and do it right on my doorstep.
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They don't actually have the personnel come into my room.
No one else is allowed into my room. My window
doesn't open. Um. You know. I see some Disney World
staff was walking by every once in a while with
the food, but that's really it. Otherwise, I'm essentially, you know,
isolated from the outside world for a full week. Okay,
so a full week of not leaving your room. Did
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you put your did you put You're going to be
there for a long time? Uh? Right when you got there,
do you put your clothes into the into the drawers
or do you do you hang everything up? Or do
you leave in the suitcase? Oh? No, I fully unpacked,
only to find out like two hours later that they're
actually gonna move us to a different room after the
quarantine period, So I'm gonna have to repack in a week,
which is a little bit annoying, but uh look, you know,
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it's it's all for the greater good. It's for the
greater safety. And I think the most important thing to
realize with this bubble is that the players are supposed
to be kind of in a bubble within a bubble
right as media members, even once we clear quarantine, we're
not supposed to get within uh you know, six ft
of them really at any time. You know, the interviews
are all gonna be distanced. When we're at the games,
They're gonna have a sitting close to the court about
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ten to fifteen feet, which is awesome because we're gonna
be able to hear everything, but they don't want us
any closer in any sort of way to threaten the
players health or safety. So they're taking a lot of
precautions here, and frankly, I appreciate it because you know,
I've been living a real safe life from the covert
of my home all summer in Los Angeles, and you know,
flying across country. Was a little bit spooky, a little
bit weird going through the airport. Um, and the last
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thing you want to do is come down here for
a work assignment and catch a disease that's killing people. Yeah,
that that that would that would be suboptimal. Suboptimal is
Ben Galliver joined us watching post Dog Out Lip Show
here on Fox Sports Traders. He's calling us live from
the bubble. So outside of writing interviews and writing what
are you doing? Trying to get my exercise in. You know,
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my room is eight paces long, so I've been walking
back and forth just trying to get my fit bit steps. Uh.
You know, I'm hearing from family members and you know,
long lost friends, college friends who are like, are you
seriously down there doing it? You know, what's wrong with you?
So that's been kind of funny to hear. Uh, you know,
just dealing with a lot of media interest. Frankly, I
think probably twenty something interviews in the last forty eight
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hours of people just kind of you know, trying to
wrap their minds around this NBA experiment. I mean, also
people just rooting for basketball to work, right. I think
that's a major theme that's come up as I've been
talking to people. Uh, it would say something pretty cool
if the NBA was able to pull this off. Crowned champion,
they've had one every single year since nineteen seven, and
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to have that street snap because of a disease or
the shutdown, I think, you know, obviously it costs people
a lot of money, but there's a real symbolic hit
to that too. And if they're able to pull it off,
I think you you get those points back, and people
would look to the NBA as potentially a league that
did it right. So I think that's sort of what
we're all hoping for. Here. Okay, so here here's I'll
give you what what happened with me. I was talking
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to some people down there two nights ago, actually two
days ago. A friend of mine who's from Houston knows
some people in the Rocks organizations, Like, Hey, I'm telling
you I I heard that Westbrook and Harden have the RNA,
that's why they haven't shown up. I was like really,
So I made a couple of calls like, look, that's
the rumors down here. Talk to somebody like I can't
really say one way or the other. And then uh,
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and then it was reported that they did, they did,
in fact have it. There are other players that aren't
there as well. Um, are we allowed to assume that
other guys that haven't shown up have tested positive and
they're just quarantining and we haven't hasn't been reported yet, Like,
what what is it? What are those the guys that
haven't shown up? What's what? What is your take on them? Well,
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it's a really an opaque situation, right, So the NBA
will tell us how many tested positive. There was nineteen
since July, and so presumably all those were not able
to travel with their teams, and presumably Westbrook is part
of that group. Right now, of the players who actually
arrived in Orlando, we know that two tested positive since
they were in Orlando, but they caught them before they were,
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you know, practicing with their teammates, So those guys are
also isolated. To my knowledge, we don't know who those
players are yet. So so far, everybody who's actually going
through practices, whether it's players, coaches, they've all been cleared
medically in the bubble is holding to this point. But
I guess for medical privacy reasons, the NBA doesn't want
to announce every single positive test they're just leaving it
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to the players, and so what's gonna turn into is
kind of a headcount situation where we're going to get
to these guys practices next week or there's scrimmages or
even their games, and we're gonna do the thing where
it's like, Okay, how many guys are here, let's take
roll call, almost like we're kindergarten teachers trying to figure
out who's healthy and who's not. So there's a little
bit of a cat and mouse thing going on, for sure,
But as far as we know, a lot of the
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major stars are here. Lebron's obviously done media here, Janice
has done media here, Kauahi Leonard arrived a little bit late,
but he's done media here. So I think in terms
of like the the biggest attraction Zion Williamson for the Pelicans,
you know, the the rookie, talented rookie has been in
practice and you know, doing interviews as well. So I
think for the major attractions, most of them are here,
with the exception of the Rocket stars who you mentioned.
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But yeah, it's gonna be a cat and mouse game,
like I said, Avery Bradley, as of now, staying home
Rondo breaks his hand. Is there any thought that the
Lakers are gonna double back with Avery Bradley and try
and get him a change his mind. Well, that's a
great question, because they're gonna need help, right. I mean,
they already bringing guys like Dion Wayers j R. Smith.
I mean they're kind of, you know, stretching in terms of,
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you know, looking for NBA quality rotation players. At this point,
they don't have a lot of ball handling. They could
use Avery Bradley's defense in that backcourt. I know, guys
like Caruso and Contavia's called well Pope have given them
some good minutes defensively. But you know, look, their biggest challenge,
if everybody stays healthy, it's going to be the Clippers.
I think the Clippers are the deepest team in the league.
I mean they asked them. They made some moves during
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the mid season, getting guys like Joe chem Noah, Marcus Morris,
Reggie Jackson. They filled that rotation out. If you want
to take them down in a seven game playoff series
and you don't have home court advantage because you're not
playing at Staples Center, you're playing in Orlando, you're gonna
need everybody you can get, so, um, you know, we'll see.
I mean, that's a personal decision that every's gonna have
to make. And clearly he had some major concerns about
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his family's health and potential exposure there. So you know
that's tv D. I guess, yeah, we'll see how it
shakes out. But you know, Lebron's quest for a fourth
ring is getting more difficult by the day. Um, I
look at the West and there have been people that
have said, we'll hold on these games. The eight games
don't matter, they're just ramp up games. On the other hand,
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matchups do in fact matter, right. So you've got the
Lakers and they're five and a half clear of the Clippers.
They're gonna get the one seed in the West. So
now it's comes down to who they will match up with.
And you know, we'll see if it's the Grizzlies or
if it's one of the other teams that can kind
of climb the ladder, like the Pelicans, who I'm sure
the league is hoping the Pelicans or or the Blazers
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climb that ladder. But what about the other Like is
a match up the Clippers like better, or a match
up the Nuggets like better in terms of who they
could potentially play well. So here's the fascinating thing to
me on that usually those kinds of like the three
through seven group would really matter because home court is
so important, right, Like, if you're Denver or Utah, like
your whole ticket to make in the second round if
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you don't have that big time, superstar level player is
having that awesome home court advantage in the small market
getting the crowd behind you, Like in Utah. We've seen
that year after year, so they be okay, see not
too long ago with help from their crowd. Now those
kinds of matchups, they're not going to have that help.
They're gonna be just playing in this empty gym. So
how does that change things? Do certain teams decide, hey,
we just want to use these games for tune up
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because ultimately we're kind of playing, you know, a bunch
of teams that aren't great in that first round matchup,
So it doesn't really matter as long as we don't
have home court advantage. I think that's one issue to watch.
There the other issue to watch that I'm interested in,
And you mentioned like the favorites, think, say the Lakers
and the Clippers playing against weaker teams. You know, usually
during the playoffs, you get to that Game three and
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that's sort of when the underdog team has a real
chance getting back in their home court, um, you know,
being able to ride the crowd to extend the series
and kind of make things interesting. If the Lakers get
up to zero against one of these teams, like say
the Pelicans are the Grizzlies, and those teams don't have
a home court, and they start thinking about, oh, I
if we lose here, it's not the end of the world.
We can go home and see our wife and kids,
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or we can get back to our our mansions in
our houses. Are they gonna wind up rolling over a
little bit easier than they usually do. I'm gonna be
watching for that, because I wouldn't be surprised at all
if some of those first round playoffs series are done
in like four or five this year, just because you
don't have that that boost that you get emotionally, you
don't have the external motivation from the crowd, and you're
kind of thinking, maybe you get a wandering eye and
you said, you know, Disney World was fun for a month,
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but I'm ready to check out. Yeah, no, no, uh,
no question. Um, I definitely think those you know, it
used to be one to three, cancoon now it's one
to three. Let's let's get out of Let's get out
of the bubble. Right, let's go let's go home. Let's
let's let's go home. Doug Otlips Show on Fox Sport Trade. No,
what I'm talking about is not the home court, but
just to match Some teams match up better with other teams, right, Um,
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like the you know, the Lakers, they have no problem
with the Grizzlies, but the Lakers would have more problems
with the Blazers, for example, because they don't really especially
without Avery Bradley. You know now you're talking about you
have one real one guard that you'd want to stick
onto onto, Damian Lillard, and and he could single handedly
carry you through a series. So that that yeah, that
that becomes fascinating to me. Um, what about Milwaukee? How
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much pressure is on the Bucks considering this offseason? Janna
will have the super Max offered, and you do feel
like at some point there's you've got to take advantage
of a window of opportunity. But what what what about
Milwaukee and the pressure to win in order to prove
to Janice that if you want to win championships, you're
bet you're just as good off hanging around. Well. I
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said that they're kind of the biggest losers of this
whole shutdown because they were in an amazing groove all
season long, you know, almost on taste to win seventy games.
They're best case to keeping Yawnese was to make the finals.
They seem like they were going to be able to
do that, and they were the heavy favorite in the
Eastern Conference, right um I think the challenge for them
right now is it could be more than a month
before they played meaningful games, because you know, their first
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round opponent is going to be a team that doesn't
have their full compliment or rosters, whether it's Washington, uh,
you know, whether it's Brooklyn, whoever it might be. I mean,
a lot of those guys are staying home, so they're
not going to be pushed there at all. They might
not be pushed until the second round at the earliest,
and that's not going to be until almost September, right,
So they got a lot of kind of meaningless basketball
to chudge their way through and try to stay healthy
with um I think ultimately though, they have the right
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style of team to win down here because they play
excellent defense. I think it's gonna be pretty ugly these
games are to start, and they've got a very dominant
guy who's going to be able to get to the
foul line regularly. And if you're in ugly games, that's
gonna be such an important key. Um. Now, are their
shooters gonna be able to step up when they're not
at home? I think that's an open question. But you know,
go back to your Lakers point. Um. You know, I
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like the favorites down here a lot, whether it's the Lakers,
the Clippers, in the Bucks, I think they're going to
be in strong position to kind of keep their momentum going. Like, yes,
they're going to have to match up with Lillard, they
don't have the guards to match up with him. When
you look at Portland's roster, who's checking Lebron right, who's
checking Anthony Davis. I mean, they're getting a few guys back,
whether it's a nur Kish up in Portland or or
Zach Collins. But I think those matchups are really favorable
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to the Lakers. So I think one thing to watch
with the NBA's restart in general is just how long
is it until the really good teams get tested? Because
we could have a lot of excitement here coming up
at the end of July because basketball is back, and
then once we're watching their games, we're thinking, man, why
did they invite twenty two teams down here? Almost half
these teams are losing teams, and can we just fast
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forward to the good stuff? Yeah? I mean, look, they
did it obviously because they needed those basically preseason type
of ramp up games, and they and they need a
volume of games as well, and you don't want to
play playoff teams only against playoff teams. But I'm with
you last thing. Do you think they're really going to
test Lebron and Kauai we the West kind of conference playoffs?
Like they're not testing those guys, are they? I believe
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in the system. Honestly. I think that it's they've done
such a good job of trying to keep it out
here that they're gonna just stick with it. Um. You know, personally,
I know there's skeptics out there. I know there's cynics
out there, but the test is is so quick, you know,
it's actually like it takes like thirty seconds. They just
you know, stick a Q tip up your nose and
in your throat. Um that the data is helpful to have,
and ultimately, those guys are worth so much money keeping
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them healthy. It's worth so much the league that I
personally believe in the testing protocols and their commitment to it,
and we'll see how it goes. You know, I'm I'm
just one writer, but you know, call me naither if
you want. But that's that's sort of my position right now.
Ben Golliver from The Washington Post join us live from
the Bubble. Ben, great info. Enjoy those that back before.
We need to maybe get you a workout like a
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Jane fund of workout video or something. Uh. Push ups,
sit ups always good, right, plank also good as well.
You may come out of this a lean, mean writing machine.
Thanks for joining us. That's Ben Golliver from The Bubble
joining us on the Doug Outlive show on Fox Sports Radio. Man,
we got a lot of things going on here that
was fun, though. It was really fun. Fox Sports Radio
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of course, former quarterback not just of Notre Dame, but
of the Cleveland Browns. Brady, let's start with college football.
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You talk to all these guys, you know what's going
on in sports? Do you think we got a season coming?
I do. I think there's a lot of parties that
want to have a season. But I think there's a
big conflict is if you're not gonna have students on campus,
how do you just straight admit that you're going to
have student athletes on campus that are going to play
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in sports, maybe just in particular football because it generates revenue. Right?
That kind of goes against this whole idea that they're amateurs.
And you know, you don't have students on campus, but
you have athletes on campus. You know, how are you
subjecting them to potentially being unsafe and being in certain
conditions compared to the other students or the rest of
the student But I think could I give you the
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counter to that? No, No, I've already got the counter.
I'm not wanting to believe that, Like I would actually
say that, and just given my experience, there's no safer
place for these student athletes than being on campus where
they're or they're constantly you know, they're constantly monitored. They
have nutritionists, they have they have a trainers, they have doctors,
they have they're going to receive the best care if
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they do get COVID and like and even until that
point in time, I think it's the best place for
them to be for probably their mental well being, which
no one wants to take into consideration how this is
impacting so many young people right now as far as
their mental wellness. So, uh look, I'm one that thinks
that that's where they should be and hopefully there will
be a season. However, that does come with some risk,
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and I think that's something that they've got to figure out.
You know, how great is that risk and if it's
worth potentially putting you know, someone's future lives at risk
or you know, putting their health at risk. Yeah, no, listen,
I I totally agree with It's it's funny the mental
health of so many writers who seemed so negative about
the COVID numbers. Um, it's like for players and for
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for athletes like dude, getting back out there and getting
your guys like that. I'll give you an example. My
son's eleven years old and he wants to be something right.
He plays football, basketball, baseball, and he likes to surf.
And during quarantine, like, we didn't let him interact with
any of his buddies. It was just me and him
out in the driveway, me and him out of the
baseball field, um or the hitting machine, or me and
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him throwing footballs or running routes or whatever like that.
That that was what it was. And like happiest kid
on earth. And he went through a phase where he
just wasn't great and we started, Um, a buddy of mine,
we we run a basketball program and we started doing
some workouts. We limited his six kids outdoors own ball.
The second we let him do that, it was after
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quarantine started to end. Um, he was like a different kid.
He was back, right, he was back. And I can
only tell you that. You know, for college kids, it's
no different. And like you said, it's not like they're
in a bubble and they're at home and they're in quarantine.
Like you're either out and about at home or you're
in the protective environment of college football and then the
other The argument I would make is this one, and
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of course Breddy Quinn joining us UH Fox College and
UH pro football analysts. Of course you can hear them
on Fox Sports Radio. Most of these dudes take online
courses anyway, as long as you're in class, it doesn't
matter it's online or if it's in person. That doesn't
really change. If you're playing football. Yeah, there's there's some
kids who never stepped out of foot in the classroom anymore.
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I mean literally, they take all their classes online. I
mean her med words and everyone. The state has talked
about their kind of pro model and they're approached everything
with their personnel department. But a lot of those young men,
you know, some of them never stepped foot in the
actual classroom. So, by the way, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's kind of how things have adapted anyway in regards
to just you know, schools and the you know, the
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kids education and just what they're asked to do too
once they get out there and be in the real
world and have a job. But I think that's the
thing is we've we've got a bunch of people who
are writing about this subject like they like they've experienced
and they've been through it, and I think if you
ask most former athletes, they would tell you that they'd
rather be out there playing. They would rather, you know,
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take that risk and go play and be in the
environment to be around their coaches, their teammates, are staff like,
they trust them, and they'd much rather take that opportunity
to go play than not. Maybe that's just my opinion.
Maybe that's my experience and how I would have felt
going back when I was at Notre Dame. Maybe kids
are different now, you know, maybe they are more scared
of of what's out there right now. But based on
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my research and just my opinion with all this is
I would I would not feel safe anywhere else other
than at at my university, at my school. Well that's
Notre Dame or anywhere else. So there's Notre Dame become
a de facto a CC member because of this. It
looks like that's gonna be the case. Um, you know,
it sounds like John's Warforth, the commissioner for the a CEC,
is gonna let No Dame obviously kind of be you know,
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hung out to dry. And then this whole regard, I
think the interesting thing about that, because a lot of
people have kind of made a case for all this
is this is the year where you really turn the
screws on Notre Dame and make them join a conference.
And I find it ironic only because we don't even
know if we were playing for a national championship, you know,
we might have a conference only schedule where there is
no postseason. And so then it's like, all right, well,
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I'm not sure that's the best example. Then, since you know,
we've used this college football playoff and that thirteenth game
indicator that the conference championship as a reason why Notre Dame,
you know, might you know, want to get no conference,
But I'm not sure this is the year to use
it as an example. And I'd say the last thing is,
you know, I think if you're gonna use this year
as an example for something, it's the fact that you know,
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you could have nine conference games this year, right, because
the Big Twelve has ten teams and so at most
they could have nine conference games without adding a non
conference opponent. And so the idea would be, why don't
we get a level playing through in college football? Why
do not use this as an opportunity where you have
other conferences in the Power five who play eight, Now
make them play nine. And then if you if we
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can have a postseason or you know, they want to
have a postseason, we can figure it out how those
teams play out from there. But um, you know, not
name will have a season though you know they'll be
probably all a CC opponents, unless you know, someone like
Navy or something like that, they can they can continue
to make that commitment. But that's how I think it
will end up working out for Notre Dad berry Quine
joining us in the Doug gotlip Shaw on Fox Sport trade.
Let's let's let's pick your NFL brain. Um, Pat Mahomes
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gets a huge deal first three years though not a
ton against the cap, allows them to sign sixty million
guarantee eighty five overall for for Chris Jones. What are
your thoughts on the Chiefs and the move they made today. Yeah,
look when when they signed Patrick Mahomes to was a
ten year extension which really amounted to will be under
contract now for twelve years. He became the mortgage company
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for the Chiefs. If you look at the mechanisms that
they put employees, especially in the back half of this deal,
they essentially allowed him to guaranteed future earnings a year early,
if that makes any sense, and they did it in
the form of roster but miss is right, and so
what that allows them to do is then turn on
this mechanism where they can convert what there was already
capped planned for and they could turn that into a
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signing bonus and then pro rated or spread it out
over the remaining years of his contract. So they essentially
allowed every time three years, four years down the road,
they've got to whether Travis Kelsey, who's gonna be probably
want of the new contracts soon, or anyone else they
need to resign. They basically look at patch from homes contract.
They're gonna have to convert whatever, you know, amount of
money they need to create that that cap space into
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a signing bonus and then they'll spread it out over
the length of the deal and it makes it more
cap friendly and it gives them more space. And obviously
this is taken into account that Patrick Momes is healthy
and he's playing at the high level like we've seen
him play, and so I think that's going to be
the case moving forward. That's why the contract made sense
for the team. And I think obviously the contract made
sense for for Patrick moving forward. How hard though, is
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it going to be for them to to to keep
this role? And you still have Mahomes, you got Jones,
you got Frank Clark, you got Tyron Matthew. But you
have these like you got the rich and then you
got the poor. There's no real middle class there. And
you do run the risk of of it one injury
to one of the to one of the big earners,
and now suddenly you're kind of plugging holes with whatever
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is on the market. Yeah, no, that that's always the
risk you run. But they also have done a good
job of drafting and be able to supplement to find
guys who obviously come at a much more economical rate.
Whether that's veteran guys they've been able to supplement and
on the roster, or it's been draft picks, and they've
been able to hit on one thorn Hill until we
got hurt their second round pick, the safety ot of Virginia.
You know, he was playing phenomenal, you know, and and
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and so like he's a guy with a lot of upsides.
So and look, if this continues that they continue to
have success, you know what this is gonna happen, because
Samuel Watkins already mentioned this, like guys are gonna start
taking less to go play with Patrick Mahomes, go win
the Super Bowl and being Kansas City and be with
Andy Reid. Like that's that that that's the Patrick Mahomes
effect now, where guys start taking less just to be
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able to try to go win rings and wins championships.
And it looks like, you know, we saw that New
England for a time with Tom Brady, and it looks like, maybe,
you know, people are gonna start being willing to do
that with the Kansas City Chiefs, with Patrick Mahomes, Brady
Queen joining us in the Doug Outlives Show on Fox
Sports Radio. What do you think of Cam Newton and
the Patriots? I love it, I really do. I mean, look,
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I'm someone who has always been a fan of Cam
just because I don't know that there's been anyone else
that I played against or ever saw and thought, Holy hell,
like at any point in time in the game, he
could sprint and take off sixty five yards for a touchdown,
or he could heave at seventy seventy five yards for
a touchdown to beat you, like, you just never felt comfortable,
you never felt confident ever playing against him, just because
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of his his raw natural abilities. And I know people
have said, you know, all this stuff about you know,
his his a tire off the field, or his demeanor
or the social media productions. But it's it's it's funny because, like,
didn't the New England Patriots just have a quarterback like
that in Tom Brady. I mean, he's pretty involved in
social media. He's pretty fashionable, you know, I'm pretty the
last time I checked, he's he's married to one of
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the richest supermodels in the world. So it's it's just
odd that that people would think there would be an issue,
that have an issue, Like I actually think this will
be a really good system for him too, in part
because if you look at what North Turner was doing
with him, uh but before we obviously got hurt last year,
but two years ago, they were already starting to spread
out the field. You know, Christian McCaffrey was was utilized
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as kind of wide receiver at the running back spot
that would position out and there was already a lot
of empty sets. So a lot of the things that
Josh mcgaels likes to do in his system and giving
control to quarterbacks. It will fit perfectly with what Cam
can do, and they'll have a package for him to
be able to take off and run and do all
those sorts of things. You know, Josh is very flexible
like that with this system. So I think it's gonna
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be a much better fit than people realize. And I
think if Cam's healthy, we might see the best Cam
Newton We've ever seen. And you know that even takes
into account of m VP season. Bretty Queen joining us
to the Doug Gotlick Show on Fox Sports Radio that
said he did have you know, did have major shoulder issues,
and the people I've talked to like, we just don't
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know about his shoulder itself. Um, and then you have
he had to live is frank, He's had other ankle issues.
I know, we all remember the freak of nature that
is Cam Newton, the type of athlete we hadn't seen
before we could throw the football. But is he still
that guy? I we just want to assume that they
play the games. I mean, that's the only way of
really being able to tell. I mean, look, if you
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follows social media account, you see him working out. I
don't have any doubts just from watching that. I mean,
if you have the guys in adonais he's a physical freak.
So um it looks like he's ready to going, ready
to play right now. Um. But look, the biggest jowp
for him, and and my concern is really is it's
really not the physical, it's more of the mental. It
is because Josh is so particular about how he wants
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his offense run. I was with the two time in Denver,
and he's he's very, very particular about it. And the
verbiage is a lot. It's gonna be a big transition
as far as the language that he's speaking, you know,
it might be a similar con teps some of the
things they're doing with the past protection, but as far
as how what he's saying and how he's saying it,
it's gonna be very different than what he's experienced in
the past. Yeah, but would they do you think they
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will go to more of the what they did with Tebow,
you know, and what they did that that that's a
misnomber though people act like Tim Tim had like six
rush attempts when Josh McDaniels was actually the play calling
people don't realize Josh got fired twelve games in the
two temps of season, and he hit no intentions of
playing Tim as a quarterback. The package that we had
that year was really nothing other than goal on short yardage.
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There was nothing else. I mean it was the following
year where again we didn't have a package for Tim.
What we ended up doing was adjusting our offense in
a in a big way to be able to put
in reads and things that he felt comfortable with. Some
of the stuff that you know, Adam Gates talked to
Urban Meyer about with Mike McCoy offensive coordinator, to be
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able to run similar concepts that he had back means
a Florida so and but none of that took place
until he actually got put in the game and started
playing because they didn't know how the whole thing was
gonna work out. So there's there's this idea, like you know,
and then a bunch of the big place feel fun.
It was scrambling off of a dropback. It wasn't like
it was designed run. I mean, the hell he scored
a touchdown on against Oakland. I want to say this
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might have been back in two thousand, ken though, but
he's scored a touchdown against them. We called a draw.
The player was called forty. Well, when Coral buck Holter
wanted to get the handoff, Tim never handed it off.
He just followed him up the hole and it happened
to be the perfect coverage for that particular play call.
It was two man, so there's no one responsible for
the quarterback. Not only did they have a lead blocker
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and Carl buck Halter a running back, but then he
just scampered off right through the middle of the field
of score touchdown versus the Raiders. I think we end
up losing the game, but nonetheless, that was kind of
how some of those plays worked out. Yeah, it's up
becoming eleven eleven football and just just just off a field.
It's it's gonna be fascinating to see. Uh, Brady, great
stuff as always. Hope you're healthy and thanks for joining us.
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Thanks for having me. All right, that's the great Brady
Queen joining us in the Doug Gotlie Show on Fox
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We got a lot to talk about the NBA bubble, which, Um,
I want to make sure that I point this out.
I didn't break that Russell Westbrook and James Harden had
the Rhona, but I didn't sinuate when I was on
Cowherds Show yesterday. Anyway. Um, Pat Mahomes is uh tweeting out,
(01:08):
got my boy locked up at Stone Cole Jones, it's
Chris Jones. The Chiefs and started Evens tackled Chris Jones
have breached day four year extension with million dollars per
the Cats Brothers. That's their agent. His agent sixty million
dollars in total guarantees at Stone Cole Jones. Let's go.
The dynasty continues to run it back sack nation. The
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general reaction after Pat Mahomes his contract, now Chris Jones contract,
is how many more super Bowls can the Chiefs win?
Not one, not two, not three? Not right. Here's the
issue that we know about the NFL. All right, getting
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to the super Bowl really really hard. Getting back to
the super Bowl is much harder. Right, what happened after
you get to a super Bowl? What's that pat Riley
always called a disease of me rams loss to the Patriots.
(02:11):
They paid Jared Goff, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald was the
best in his position in the sport at what he does,
Todd Gurley, Brandon Cooks, a couple of injuries, and they
missed the playoffs. The reason the Pats had long term
success was they just didn't overpay one player. They didn't.
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And while I would agree with anyone, and we said
it at the time, that Pat Mahomes contract doesn't really
crush the team in terms of this salary cap the
first three years. Remember you're acting as if this salary
cap is going to remain, and we told you it
will not it will go down. So you look at
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Chris Jones and he's really good at what he does.
And how the Chiefs are trying to build themselves for
the future is and we get a couple of great
pass rushers, we got an awesome quarterback, we gotta protect
him with an offensive line, and then we gotta find
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mix and match of skill position players. And look, they
are helped out by the fact that Tyreek kill has
been such a knucklehead off the football field that in
spite of the fact he's a top five, top ten
talent as a whatever you want to call him. He's
a wide receiver, but they use them all over the
field that he's never going to get top dollar because
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he's always one recorded conversation or one incident from being
out of the league. But Travis Kelsey hasn't gotten paid yet,
has he. That's going to happen. He's arguably the best
or second best at what he does in the National
Football League. So I look at this and I'm hey,
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congratulates everybody gets theirs and Pat Mahomes leaving a little
bit on the table for the first couple of years.
Not in reality, because he gets a hundred and three
million by next March, a hundred forty million total by
the following March. But in the reality of the salary
cap isn't it doesn't actually change much this year and
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next year. While there's a change, it's only in the
twenty million range, not in the thirties or forties what
he's actually getting paid. That said, the Chiefs are trying
to do what all championships teams try to do. Hey, look,
this is what happened to the Ravens twice over. The
first time the Ravens won the Super Bowl, they had
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the greatest defense ever and all of those guys got
paid and eventually they were capped out and they had
to remake themselves. They did. And the second time, they
want to remember, Joe Flacco got a huge contract. And
I'm not sitting here disputing anyone that says, well, Pat
Mahomes was way better than Joe Flacco. He is, but
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can you protect him? Can you stop anybody? Though the
Chiefs were one were one off sides away from going
to a Super Bowl previously, let's be honest, they had
to dramatically fix their defense last offseason in order to
get back to that position. Now you overpay for your
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best pieces. And what's that everybody says your better draft
really really well. So you miss on a draft pick,
you have a big injury, you become top heavy, you
become you know, front loaded. Like there's there's no difference
in this than the Golden State Warriors. The Warriors had
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Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and Draymond Green, and then
they won seventy three games, and suddenly they lost in
the NBA Finals up three games the one of the
Cleveland Cavaliers. Had they not been able to get a
Kevin Durant, that little mini dynasty might have ended. Even
getting Kevin Durant. They then win two championships, and now
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because of injury and contract being up, they had to
remake themselves again. Now, look what I take two or
three Super bowlts if I'm the Chiefs when I waited
fifty years for just one. Sure, sure, but what's past
is precedent, right, what happened previously is precedent for what's
happening now. And what's happening now is everybody gets paid.
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You know, you gotta keep drafting as they did this year,
or running backs late first, early second, and then never
give him a second contract. You gotta find deals on
defensive backs, which become harder and harder and harder. You
gotta hope that your top paid guys that have the
biggest salary cap hits don't get injured. That's easier with
Pat Mahomes, although he did just dislocate his kneecap last year,
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than it is with Chris Jones, who like look defensive
lineman offensive lineman. Guys fall unerneath their legs all the time.
I'm not saying I don't like this deal. He's a
tremendous pass pass rusher, He's Chris Jones is awesome. Pat
Mahomes is awesome. But they are repeating the same pattern
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as many championship teams before. And maybe Pat Mahomes is
just better, is just different, is just able to rise
above what no one else is able to rise above.
I'm willing more than willing to agree with that. And
while the salary cap hit from his new contract isn't
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that severe, it does give you a distinct window before
it cranks up, and in that window, we believe the
salary cap will actually go down not go up and
he and during all of this time, you still have
to hope those top paid players don't get hurt, or
you don't miss on draft picks, or the league doesn't
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change right before your eyes. So I think it's it's
a fascinating time to be a Cancie Chief fan, because
like so many other teams, you're like, man, you get
greedy about winning, you fall in love with your players,
and then you sit there and go like, wait, hey,
how did the Patriots stay competitive for the last twenty years?
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Their best player, most important player, never took as much
as he could get, and they spread the money out
as much as they possibly could. And now look, in
fairness to Chris Jones, the other thing the Patriots have
done is if you've got a great player, you do
pay to keep them right. You're much better off paying
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your own guys that you know a lot about than
you are paying somebody else's guys that you really have
an incomplete, uh incomplete backstory on because he don't work
with him on a daily basis. Chris Jones signs a
mega deal, the Kansity Chiefs seem to want to run
it back. It seems easy enough, and then you ask yourself, Wait,
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why didn't fill it up? Why doesn't Philadelphia been the
same since they won a Super Bowl? Why hasn't Atlanta
been back since they went to the Super Bowl one
they should have won? Why we did it? Were the
Rams out of the playoffs after being one of the
young dynamic teams in the NFL. I think some of
your answers are the same answers that are being provided
(09:28):
by the Kansity Chiefs today. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio a app. This was Cam Newton
on The Bigger Picture on YouTube, talking about his role
with the Patriots and replacing Tom Brady. We have to
talk about the elephant in the room, and it's like,
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you know you who you you coming after? And I'm like, yeah, great,
what he was, what he is is great? Needs no
even talking about it. But one thing about it, though,
Coach McDaniels, You're able to call some stuff that we've
never been able to call. Now you're getting a doll
You're getting one of these tick Dolf dogs. Two days
like Bro and I'm looking at the SATs. I'm like,
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who we play? That team passed on me? Okay, that
team passed on me, they could have game and got me. Okay,
so let's look at their schedule on that. That team
passed on me that and and look, I don't have
you want motivated dudes. And he's obviously a motivated dude.
There's nothing wrong with that. I motivated Cam Newton is
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a good one. Um. Okay, So the Dolphins would that
be a team that passed on him? Sure, but they
had a plan in place to get to a tongue
of Violoa and they'll probably start, I would guess Ryan
Fitzpatrick at that point in time. The seahawks first road game,
if Cam Newton is the start at the start of
the year, will be in Seattle against the Seahawks. And
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they weren't changing quarterbacks. The Raiders, well, they did sign
Marcus Mariota to be a seven point five in our
year backup, but that was before he was ever released.
And they do have Derek Carr who they could have
bought out but they've chosen to stick with and they
then that's the Chiefs, all right, So where are the
teams that that that passed on him. They could have,
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Like you're just making it up. Everyone knew the Dolphins
were drafting a quarterback. And if we're honest, Ryan Fitzpatrick
has been a better quarterback the past couple of years.
And I'm not a Fitzpatrick guy, but he was a
better quarterback past couple of years than Cam Newton has
been because he's been healthier. Broncos could they have gotten
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Cam Newton, like I guess, and actually that would have
been fascinating to see. But they're all in Andrew lock
forty Niners, no Bills. Yeah, Sean McDermott used to be
his defensive coordinator and Brandon Bean was an assistant GM
when he was there. But they went to the playoffs
last year with Josh Allen's their quarterback. The Jets they
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got Sam Donald, The Ravens they have Lamar Jackson, the
Texans they have Deshaun Watson. The Cardinals they have Okay,
so you're talking about the Chargers on the road who
just draft a quarterback and they think Tyrod Taylor is
a younger, healthier version of Cam Newton, or the Rams
who have their Quille, Like, where are the teams you're
talking about again, I know you can sit there and
go like they could have had me, and like none
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none of these teams were in the market for a quarterback.
Kim Newton is literally living in an alternate universe from reality,
which is cool, which you can do like you can.
We saw this with Jordan with the last dance and
just making up false narratives in order to motivate yourself.
Got it. But I mean, like, where are the team's camp? Yes?
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Can Josh man Daniels call some places he couldn't call before, Yes,
But there's also some place that he always used to
call that he can't call anymore. Do you know why?
Because you're not that accurate? And with with Tom Brady,
they knew each other so well that they could put
in a game plan, and they knew what each other
was thinking, and they talked every day and they had
don't I remember we did this five years ago? Yeah? Yeah,
I remember that. What you're saying is, here's the okay,
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there were teams that weren't interested because they thought his
shoulder was shot. Maybe they were wrong. The doctors thought
Drew brees shoulder was shot. It clearly wasn't. So the
first thing is that that, how can he throw consistently,
not not against air? Can he throw? Can he make
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throws all week long? And then does his arms stand
up to making throws even in the good weather earlier
in the year. And then everyone wants to point out
these highlights from two thousand thirteen and fourteen and fifteen
of him running around like dude, Cam Newton was at burst,
amazing speed, athlete, saticism strength. It's two thousand twenty ye
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had ankle surgery and Liz frank injury. It's not like
the Panthers didn't know what they had, not like Ron Rivera.
Ron Rivera traded for a Carolina Panthers quarterback not named
Kim Dowton traded for Kyle Allen. Had he simply and
he traded for him, had he simply waited a couple
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of weeks a month, could have had Cam Newton, but
he didn't. You don't want that guy's your backup. So
I'm not telling you that I know what Cam Newton
hall looked like. I'm telling you that the Carolina Panthers
felt like they knew and they passed, and Ron Rivera
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knew what he knew and he passed. And then Cam
is living in the same way. He's living in this
alternate universe over who he is and what he can do.
He's also living in this alternate universe in regards to
who passed on him, who had the opportunity to sign him,
because I mean, I guess the Dolphins could have, but
everyone knew they were draft into if they could, right
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Like they were tanking for a year to get a quarterback.
That's their schedule. Dolphins, Seahawks, Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos, Niners, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Texans, Cardinals, Chargers, Rams, Dolphins, Bills, Jets.
Where are the teams that that chunned you? They don't exist.
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Doesn't mean I don't I'm not interested, don't want to
see him succeed. It's just I also deal with reality.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
Ben Goliver joins The Dug Gotlips Show Fox Pull Shure,
I think so much Dan. Ben Goliver is in the bubble,
He writes for The Washington Post. Okay, so have you cleared?
(15:51):
I saw you pascy uh are we now? Is m um,
we have you cleared quarantine yet? Stuff? First forty eight
hours right where you get that wrist band, you cannot
leave your room? Have you cleared that yet? I'll tell
you what. It's even worse than that, because for the
media members who didn't, you know, get tested for coronavirus
before flying down here and had to fly commercial, our
quarantine is actually seven days. So I've been basically day
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two of a seven day quarantine. I'm still pacing back
and forth in my room. I'm still waiting for my
three meals delivered to my door. I got a long
way to go. Okay, So again, then I I spoke
with UM a couple of people from their rooms yesterday,
and then UM, somebody related to somebody. Okay, so this
is what I was told. You get there, and you
tell me from you get there, You get a key
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to your room, and that it's all. You can only
get in, and once you're in, you can't get out.
And then once you clear quarantine, you have that wrist
bracelet and it's red when you wake up, and then
it checks your vitals and then it turns green. Only
then can you leave your room? Is that is that accurate?
For what you're going through. Yeah, it's pretty close. I
mean I could walk out my front door right now,
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but I do have a green bracelet, and so basically
if security saw me, it would be like the you know,
the tip hotline that you're talking about. They would be
coming after me pretty quick, saying get back in your room,
and my clock would restart. So obviously I'm I'm free
to leave, but not really if I want to continue
reporting on it. Every night, I'm getting tested for the coronavirus.
So they come and do it right on my doorstep.
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They don't actually have the personnel come into my room.
No one else is allowed into my room. My window
doesn't open. Um. You know. I see some Disney World
staff was walking by every once in a while with
the food, but that's really it. Otherwise, I'm essentially, you know,
isolated from the outside world for a full week. Okay,
so a full week of not leaving your room. Did
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you put your did you put You're going to be
there for a long time? Uh? Right when you got there,
do you put your clothes into the into the drawers
or do you do you hang everything up? Or do
you leave in the suitcase? Oh? No, I fully unpacked,
only to find out like two hours later that they're
actually gonna move us to a different room after the
quarantine period, So I'm gonna have to repack in a week,
which is a little bit annoying, but uh look, you know,
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it's it's all for the greater good. It's for the
greater safety. And I think the most important thing to
realize with this bubble is that the players are supposed
to be kind of in a bubble within a bubble
right as media members, even once we clear quarantine, we're
not supposed to get within uh you know, six ft
of them really at any time. You know, the interviews
are all gonna be distanced. When we're at the games,
They're gonna have a sitting close to the court about
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ten to fifteen feet, which is awesome because we're gonna
be able to hear everything, but they don't want us
any closer in any sort of way to threaten the
players health or safety. So they're taking a lot of
precautions here, and frankly, I appreciate it because you know,
I've been living a real safe life from the covert
of my home all summer in Los Angeles, and you know,
flying across country. Was a little bit spooky, a little
bit weird going through the airport. Um, and the last
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thing you want to do is come down here for
a work assignment and catch a disease that's killing people. Yeah,
that that that would that would be suboptimal. Suboptimal is
Ben Galliver joined us watching post Dog Out Lip Show
here on Fox Sports Traders. He's calling us live from
the bubble. So outside of writing interviews and writing what
are you doing? Trying to get my exercise in. You know,
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my room is eight paces long, so I've been walking
back and forth just trying to get my fit bit steps. Uh.
You know, I'm hearing from family members and you know,
long lost friends, college friends who are like, are you
seriously down there doing it? You know, what's wrong with you?
So that's been kind of funny to hear. Uh, you know,
just dealing with a lot of media interest. Frankly, I
think probably twenty something interviews in the last forty eight
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hours of people just kind of you know, trying to
wrap their minds around this NBA experiment. I mean, also
people just rooting for basketball to work, right. I think
that's a major theme that's come up as I've been
talking to people. Uh, it would say something pretty cool
if the NBA was able to pull this off. Crowned champion,
they've had one every single year since nineteen seven, and
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to have that street snap because of a disease or
the shutdown, I think, you know, obviously it costs people
a lot of money, but there's a real symbolic hit
to that too. And if they're able to pull it off,
I think you you get those points back, and people
would look to the NBA as potentially a league that
did it right. So I think that's sort of what
we're all hoping for. Here. Okay, so here here's I'll
give you what what happened with me. I was talking
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to some people down there two nights ago, actually two
days ago. A friend of mine who's from Houston knows
some people in the Rocks organizations, Like, Hey, I'm telling
you I I heard that Westbrook and Harden have the RNA,
that's why they haven't shown up. I was like really,
So I made a couple of calls like, look, that's
the rumors down here. Talk to somebody like I can't
really say one way or the other. And then uh,
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and then it was reported that they did, they did,
in fact have it. There are other players that aren't
there as well. Um, are we allowed to assume that
other guys that haven't shown up have tested positive and
they're just quarantining and we haven't hasn't been reported yet, Like,
what what is it? What are those the guys that
haven't shown up? What's what? What is your take on them? Well,
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it's a really an opaque situation, right, So the NBA
will tell us how many tested positive. There was nineteen
since July, and so presumably all those were not able
to travel with their teams, and presumably Westbrook is part
of that group. Right now, of the players who actually
arrived in Orlando, we know that two tested positive since
they were in Orlando, but they caught them before they were,
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you know, practicing with their teammates, So those guys are
also isolated. To my knowledge, we don't know who those
players are yet. So so far, everybody who's actually going
through practices, whether it's players, coaches, they've all been cleared
medically in the bubble is holding to this point. But
I guess for medical privacy reasons, the NBA doesn't want
to announce every single positive test they're just leaving it
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to the players, and so what's gonna turn into is
kind of a headcount situation where we're going to get
to these guys practices next week or there's scrimmages or
even their games, and we're gonna do the thing where
it's like, Okay, how many guys are here, let's take
roll call, almost like we're kindergarten teachers trying to figure
out who's healthy and who's not. So there's a little
bit of a cat and mouse thing going on, for sure,
But as far as we know, a lot of the
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major stars are here. Lebron's obviously done media here, Janice
has done media here, Kauahi Leonard arrived a little bit late,
but he's done media here. So I think in terms
of like the the biggest attraction Zion Williamson for the Pelicans,
you know, the the rookie, talented rookie has been in
practice and you know, doing interviews as well. So I
think for the major attractions, most of them are here,
with the exception of the Rocket stars who you mentioned.
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But yeah, it's gonna be a cat and mouse game,
like I said, Avery Bradley, as of now, staying home
Rondo breaks his hand. Is there any thought that the
Lakers are gonna double back with Avery Bradley and try
and get him a change his mind. Well, that's a
great question, because they're gonna need help, right. I mean,
they already bringing guys like Dion Wayers j R. Smith.
I mean they're kind of, you know, stretching in terms of,
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you know, looking for NBA quality rotation players. At this point,
they don't have a lot of ball handling. They could
use Avery Bradley's defense in that backcourt. I know, guys
like Caruso and Contavia's called well Pope have given them
some good minutes defensively. But you know, look, their biggest challenge,
if everybody stays healthy, it's going to be the Clippers.
I think the Clippers are the deepest team in the league.
I mean they asked them. They made some moves during
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the mid season, getting guys like Joe chem Noah, Marcus Morris,
Reggie Jackson. They filled that rotation out. If you want
to take them down in a seven game playoff series
and you don't have home court advantage because you're not
playing at Staples Center, you're playing in Orlando, you're gonna
need everybody you can get, so, um, you know, we'll see.
I mean, that's a personal decision that every's gonna have
to make. And clearly he had some major concerns about
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his family's health and potential exposure there. So you know
that's tv D. I guess, yeah, we'll see how it
shakes out. But you know, Lebron's quest for a fourth
ring is getting more difficult by the day. Um, I
look at the West and there have been people that
have said, we'll hold on these games. The eight games
don't matter, they're just ramp up games. On the other hand,
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matchups do in fact matter, right. So you've got the
Lakers and they're five and a half clear of the Clippers.
They're gonna get the one seed in the West. So
now it's comes down to who they will match up with.
And you know, we'll see if it's the Grizzlies or
if it's one of the other teams that can kind
of climb the ladder, like the Pelicans, who I'm sure
the league is hoping the Pelicans or or the Blazers
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climb that ladder. But what about the other Like is
a match up the Clippers like better, or a match
up the Nuggets like better in terms of who they
could potentially play well. So here's the fascinating thing to
me on that usually those kinds of like the three
through seven group would really matter because home court is
so important, right, Like, if you're Denver or Utah, like
your whole ticket to make in the second round if
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you don't have that big time, superstar level player is
having that awesome home court advantage in the small market
getting the crowd behind you, Like in Utah. We've seen
that year after year, so they be okay, see not
too long ago with help from their crowd. Now those
kinds of matchups, they're not going to have that help.
They're gonna be just playing in this empty gym. So
how does that change things? Do certain teams decide, hey,
we just want to use these games for tune up
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because ultimately we're kind of playing, you know, a bunch
of teams that aren't great in that first round matchup,
So it doesn't really matter as long as we don't
have home court advantage. I think that's one issue to watch.
There the other issue to watch that I'm interested in,
And you mentioned like the favorites, think, say the Lakers
and the Clippers playing against weaker teams. You know, usually
during the playoffs, you get to that Game three and
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that's sort of when the underdog team has a real
chance getting back in their home court, um, you know,
being able to ride the crowd to extend the series
and kind of make things interesting. If the Lakers get
up to zero against one of these teams, like say
the Pelicans are the Grizzlies, and those teams don't have
a home court, and they start thinking about, oh, I
if we lose here, it's not the end of the world.
We can go home and see our wife and kids,
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or we can get back to our our mansions in
our houses. Are they gonna wind up rolling over a
little bit easier than they usually do. I'm gonna be
watching for that, because I wouldn't be surprised at all
if some of those first round playoffs series are done
in like four or five this year, just because you
don't have that that boost that you get emotionally, you
don't have the external motivation from the crowd, and you're
kind of thinking, maybe you get a wandering eye and
you said, you know, Disney World was fun for a month,
(25:44):
but I'm ready to check out. Yeah, no, no, uh,
no question. Um, I definitely think those you know, it
used to be one to three, cancoon now it's one
to three. Let's let's get out of Let's get out
of the bubble. Right, let's go let's go home. Let's
let's let's go home. Doug Otlips Show on Fox Sport Trade. No,
what I'm talking about is not the home court, but
just to match Some teams match up better with other teams, right, Um,
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like the you know, the Lakers, they have no problem
with the Grizzlies, but the Lakers would have more problems
with the Blazers, for example, because they don't really especially
without Avery Bradley. You know now you're talking about you
have one real one guard that you'd want to stick
onto onto, Damian Lillard, and and he could single handedly
carry you through a series. So that that yeah, that
that becomes fascinating to me. Um, what about Milwaukee? How
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much pressure is on the Bucks considering this offseason? Janna
will have the super Max offered, and you do feel
like at some point there's you've got to take advantage
of a window of opportunity. But what what what about
Milwaukee and the pressure to win in order to prove
to Janice that if you want to win championships, you're
bet you're just as good off hanging around. Well. I
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said that they're kind of the biggest losers of this
whole shutdown because they were in an amazing groove all
season long, you know, almost on taste to win seventy games.
They're best case to keeping Yawnese was to make the finals.
They seem like they were going to be able to
do that, and they were the heavy favorite in the
Eastern Conference, right um I think the challenge for them
right now is it could be more than a month
before they played meaningful games, because you know, their first
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round opponent is going to be a team that doesn't
have their full compliment or rosters, whether it's Washington, uh,
you know, whether it's Brooklyn, whoever it might be. I mean,
a lot of those guys are staying home, so they're
not going to be pushed there at all. They might
not be pushed until the second round at the earliest,
and that's not going to be until almost September, right,
So they got a lot of kind of meaningless basketball
to chudge their way through and try to stay healthy
with um I think ultimately though, they have the right
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style of team to win down here because they play
excellent defense. I think it's gonna be pretty ugly these
games are to start, and they've got a very dominant
guy who's going to be able to get to the
foul line regularly. And if you're in ugly games, that's
gonna be such an important key. Um. Now, are their
shooters gonna be able to step up when they're not
at home? I think that's an open question. But you know,
go back to your Lakers point. Um. You know, I
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like the favorites down here a lot, whether it's the Lakers,
the Clippers, in the Bucks, I think they're going to
be in strong position to kind of keep their momentum going. Like, yes,
they're going to have to match up with Lillard, they
don't have the guards to match up with him. When
you look at Portland's roster, who's checking Lebron right, who's
checking Anthony Davis. I mean, they're getting a few guys back,
whether it's a nur Kish up in Portland or or
Zach Collins. But I think those matchups are really favorable
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to the Lakers. So I think one thing to watch
with the NBA's restart in general is just how long
is it until the really good teams get tested? Because
we could have a lot of excitement here coming up
at the end of July because basketball is back, and
then once we're watching their games, we're thinking, man, why
did they invite twenty two teams down here? Almost half
these teams are losing teams, and can we just fast
(28:37):
forward to the good stuff? Yeah? I mean, look, they
did it obviously because they needed those basically preseason type
of ramp up games, and they and they need a
volume of games as well, and you don't want to
play playoff teams only against playoff teams. But I'm with
you last thing. Do you think they're really going to
test Lebron and Kauai we the West kind of conference playoffs?
Like they're not testing those guys, are they? I believe
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in the system. Honestly. I think that it's they've done
such a good job of trying to keep it out
here that they're gonna just stick with it. Um. You know, personally,
I know there's skeptics out there. I know there's cynics
out there, but the test is is so quick, you know,
it's actually like it takes like thirty seconds. They just
you know, stick a Q tip up your nose and
in your throat. Um that the data is helpful to have,
and ultimately, those guys are worth so much money keeping
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them healthy. It's worth so much the league that I
personally believe in the testing protocols and their commitment to it,
and we'll see how it goes. You know, I'm I'm
just one writer, but you know, call me naither if
you want. But that's that's sort of my position right now.
Ben Golliver from The Washington Post join us live from
the Bubble. Ben, great info. Enjoy those that back before.
We need to maybe get you a workout like a
(29:42):
Jane fund of workout video or something. Uh. Push ups,
sit ups always good, right, plank also good as well.
You may come out of this a lean, mean writing machine.
Thanks for joining us. That's Ben Golliver from The Bubble
joining us on the Doug Outlive show on Fox Sports Radio. Man,
we got a lot of things going on here that
was fun, though. It was really fun. Fox Sports Radio
(30:05):
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of course, former quarterback not just of Notre Dame, but
of the Cleveland Browns. Brady, let's start with college football.
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You talk to all these guys, you know what's going
on in sports? Do you think we got a season coming?
I do. I think there's a lot of parties that
want to have a season. But I think there's a
big conflict is if you're not gonna have students on campus,
how do you just straight admit that you're going to
have student athletes on campus that are going to play
(30:46):
in sports, maybe just in particular football because it generates revenue. Right?
That kind of goes against this whole idea that they're amateurs.
And you know, you don't have students on campus, but
you have athletes on campus. You know, how are you
subjecting them to potentially being unsafe and being in certain
conditions compared to the other students or the rest of
the student But I think could I give you the
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counter to that? No, No, I've already got the counter.
I'm not wanting to believe that, Like I would actually
say that, and just given my experience, there's no safer
place for these student athletes than being on campus where
they're or they're constantly you know, they're constantly monitored. They
have nutritionists, they have they have a trainers, they have doctors,
they have they're going to receive the best care if
(31:28):
they do get COVID and like and even until that
point in time, I think it's the best place for
them to be for probably their mental well being, which
no one wants to take into consideration how this is
impacting so many young people right now as far as
their mental wellness. So, uh look, I'm one that thinks
that that's where they should be and hopefully there will
be a season. However, that does come with some risk,
(31:50):
and I think that's something that they've got to figure out.
You know, how great is that risk and if it's
worth potentially putting you know, someone's future lives at risk
or you know, putting their health at risk. Yeah, no, listen,
I I totally agree with It's it's funny the mental
health of so many writers who seemed so negative about
the COVID numbers. Um, it's like for players and for
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for athletes like dude, getting back out there and getting
your guys like that. I'll give you an example. My
son's eleven years old and he wants to be something right.
He plays football, basketball, baseball, and he likes to surf.
And during quarantine, like, we didn't let him interact with
any of his buddies. It was just me and him
out in the driveway, me and him out of the
baseball field, um or the hitting machine, or me and
(32:34):
him throwing footballs or running routes or whatever like that.
That that was what it was. And like happiest kid
on earth. And he went through a phase where he
just wasn't great and we started, Um, a buddy of mine,
we we run a basketball program and we started doing
some workouts. We limited his six kids outdoors own ball.
The second we let him do that, it was after
(32:55):
quarantine started to end. Um, he was like a different kid.
He was back, right, he was back. And I can
only tell you that. You know, for college kids, it's
no different. And like you said, it's not like they're
in a bubble and they're at home and they're in quarantine.
Like you're either out and about at home or you're
in the protective environment of college football and then the
other The argument I would make is this one, and
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of course Breddy Quinn joining us UH Fox College and
UH pro football analysts. Of course you can hear them
on Fox Sports Radio. Most of these dudes take online
courses anyway, as long as you're in class, it doesn't
matter it's online or if it's in person. That doesn't
really change. If you're playing football. Yeah, there's there's some
kids who never stepped out of foot in the classroom anymore.
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I mean literally, they take all their classes online. I
mean her med words and everyone. The state has talked
about their kind of pro model and they're approached everything
with their personnel department. But a lot of those young men,
you know, some of them never stepped foot in the
actual classroom. So, by the way, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's kind of how things have adapted anyway in regards
to just you know, schools and the you know, the
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kids education and just what they're asked to do too
once they get out there and be in the real
world and have a job. But I think that's the
thing is we've we've got a bunch of people who
are writing about this subject like they like they've experienced
and they've been through it, and I think if you
ask most former athletes, they would tell you that they'd
rather be out there playing. They would rather, you know,
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take that risk and go play and be in the
environment to be around their coaches, their teammates, are staff like,
they trust them, and they'd much rather take that opportunity
to go play than not. Maybe that's just my opinion.
Maybe that's my experience and how I would have felt
going back when I was at Notre Dame. Maybe kids
are different now, you know, maybe they are more scared
of of what's out there right now. But based on
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my research and just my opinion with all this is
I would I would not feel safe anywhere else other
than at at my university, at my school. Well that's
Notre Dame or anywhere else. So there's Notre Dame become
a de facto a CC member because of this. It
looks like that's gonna be the case. Um, you know,
it sounds like John's Warforth, the commissioner for the a CEC,
is gonna let No Dame obviously kind of be you know,
(35:01):
hung out to dry. And then this whole regard, I
think the interesting thing about that, because a lot of
people have kind of made a case for all this
is this is the year where you really turn the
screws on Notre Dame and make them join a conference.
And I find it ironic only because we don't even
know if we were playing for a national championship, you know,
we might have a conference only schedule where there is
no postseason. And so then it's like, all right, well,
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I'm not sure that's the best example. Then, since you know,
we've used this college football playoff and that thirteenth game
indicator that the conference championship as a reason why Notre Dame,
you know, might you know, want to get no conference,
But I'm not sure this is the year to use
it as an example. And I'd say the last thing is,
you know, I think if you're gonna use this year
as an example for something, it's the fact that you know,
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you could have nine conference games this year, right, because
the Big Twelve has ten teams and so at most
they could have nine conference games without adding a non
conference opponent. And so the idea would be, why don't
we get a level playing through in college football? Why
do not use this as an opportunity where you have
other conferences in the Power five who play eight, Now
make them play nine. And then if you if we
(36:03):
can have a postseason or you know, they want to
have a postseason, we can figure it out how those
teams play out from there. But um, you know, not
name will have a season though you know they'll be
probably all a CC opponents, unless you know, someone like
Navy or something like that, they can they can continue
to make that commitment. But that's how I think it
will end up working out for Notre Dad berry Quine
joining us in the Doug gotlip Shaw on Fox Sport trade.
Let's let's let's pick your NFL brain. Um, Pat Mahomes
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gets a huge deal first three years though not a
ton against the cap, allows them to sign sixty million
guarantee eighty five overall for for Chris Jones. What are
your thoughts on the Chiefs and the move they made today. Yeah,
look when when they signed Patrick Mahomes to was a
ten year extension which really amounted to will be under
contract now for twelve years. He became the mortgage company
(36:47):
for the Chiefs. If you look at the mechanisms that
they put employees, especially in the back half of this deal,
they essentially allowed him to guaranteed future earnings a year early,
if that makes any sense, and they did it in
the form of roster but miss is right, and so
what that allows them to do is then turn on
this mechanism where they can convert what there was already
capped planned for and they could turn that into a
(37:08):
signing bonus and then pro rated or spread it out
over the remaining years of his contract. So they essentially
allowed every time three years, four years down the road,
they've got to whether Travis Kelsey, who's gonna be probably
want of the new contracts soon, or anyone else they
need to resign. They basically look at patch from homes contract.
They're gonna have to convert whatever, you know, amount of
money they need to create that that cap space into
(37:30):
a signing bonus and then they'll spread it out over
the length of the deal and it makes it more
cap friendly and it gives them more space. And obviously
this is taken into account that Patrick Momes is healthy
and he's playing at the high level like we've seen
him play, and so I think that's going to be
the case moving forward. That's why the contract made sense
for the team. And I think obviously the contract made
sense for for Patrick moving forward. How hard though, is
(37:52):
it going to be for them to to to keep
this role? And you still have Mahomes, you got Jones,
you got Frank Clark, you got Tyron Matthew. But you
have these like you got the rich and then you
got the poor. There's no real middle class there. And
you do run the risk of of it one injury
to one of the to one of the big earners,
and now suddenly you're kind of plugging holes with whatever
(38:14):
is on the market. Yeah, no, that that's always the
risk you run. But they also have done a good
job of drafting and be able to supplement to find
guys who obviously come at a much more economical rate.
Whether that's veteran guys they've been able to supplement and
on the roster, or it's been draft picks, and they've
been able to hit on one thorn Hill until we
got hurt their second round pick, the safety ot of Virginia.
You know, he was playing phenomenal, you know, and and
(38:35):
and so like he's a guy with a lot of upsides.
So and look, if this continues that they continue to
have success, you know what this is gonna happen, because
Samuel Watkins already mentioned this, like guys are gonna start
taking less to go play with Patrick Mahomes, go win
the Super Bowl and being Kansas City and be with
Andy Reid. Like that's that that that's the Patrick Mahomes
effect now, where guys start taking less just to be
(38:55):
able to try to go win rings and wins championships.
And it looks like, you know, we saw that New
England for a time with Tom Brady, and it looks like, maybe,
you know, people are gonna start being willing to do
that with the Kansas City Chiefs, with Patrick Mahomes, Brady
Queen joining us in the Doug Outlives Show on Fox
Sports Radio. What do you think of Cam Newton and
the Patriots? I love it, I really do. I mean, look,
(39:16):
I'm someone who has always been a fan of Cam
just because I don't know that there's been anyone else
that I played against or ever saw and thought, Holy hell,
like at any point in time in the game, he
could sprint and take off sixty five yards for a touchdown,
or he could heave at seventy seventy five yards for
a touchdown to beat you, like, you just never felt comfortable,
you never felt confident ever playing against him, just because
(39:40):
of his his raw natural abilities. And I know people
have said, you know, all this stuff about you know,
his his a tire off the field, or his demeanor
or the social media productions. But it's it's it's funny because, like,
didn't the New England Patriots just have a quarterback like
that in Tom Brady. I mean, he's pretty involved in
social media. He's pretty fashionable, you know, I'm pretty the
last time I checked, he's he's married to one of
(40:01):
the richest supermodels in the world. So it's it's just
odd that that people would think there would be an issue,
that have an issue, Like I actually think this will
be a really good system for him too, in part
because if you look at what North Turner was doing
with him, uh but before we obviously got hurt last year,
but two years ago, they were already starting to spread
out the field. You know, Christian McCaffrey was was utilized
(40:23):
as kind of wide receiver at the running back spot
that would position out and there was already a lot
of empty sets. So a lot of the things that
Josh mcgaels likes to do in his system and giving
control to quarterbacks. It will fit perfectly with what Cam
can do, and they'll have a package for him to
be able to take off and run and do all
those sorts of things. You know, Josh is very flexible
like that with this system. So I think it's gonna
(40:43):
be a much better fit than people realize. And I
think if Cam's healthy, we might see the best Cam
Newton We've ever seen. And you know that even takes
into account of m VP season. Bretty Queen joining us
to the Doug Gotlick Show on Fox Sports Radio that
said he did have you know, did have major shoulder issues,
and the people I've talked to like, we just don't
(41:04):
know about his shoulder itself. Um, and then you have
he had to live is frank, He's had other ankle issues.
I know, we all remember the freak of nature that
is Cam Newton, the type of athlete we hadn't seen
before we could throw the football. But is he still
that guy? I we just want to assume that they
play the games. I mean, that's the only way of
really being able to tell. I mean, look, if you
(41:25):
follows social media account, you see him working out. I
don't have any doubts just from watching that. I mean,
if you have the guys in adonais he's a physical freak.
So um it looks like he's ready to going, ready
to play right now. Um. But look, the biggest jowp
for him, and and my concern is really is it's
really not the physical, it's more of the mental. It
is because Josh is so particular about how he wants
(41:47):
his offense run. I was with the two time in Denver,
and he's he's very, very particular about it. And the
verbiage is a lot. It's gonna be a big transition
as far as the language that he's speaking, you know,
it might be a similar con teps some of the
things they're doing with the past protection, but as far
as how what he's saying and how he's saying it,
it's gonna be very different than what he's experienced in
the past. Yeah, but would they do you think they
(42:09):
will go to more of the what they did with Tebow,
you know, and what they did that that that's a
misnomber though people act like Tim Tim had like six
rush attempts when Josh McDaniels was actually the play calling
people don't realize Josh got fired twelve games in the
two temps of season, and he hit no intentions of
playing Tim as a quarterback. The package that we had
that year was really nothing other than goal on short yardage.
(42:32):
There was nothing else. I mean it was the following
year where again we didn't have a package for Tim.
What we ended up doing was adjusting our offense in
a in a big way to be able to put
in reads and things that he felt comfortable with. Some
of the stuff that you know, Adam Gates talked to
Urban Meyer about with Mike McCoy offensive coordinator, to be
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able to run similar concepts that he had back means
a Florida so and but none of that took place
until he actually got put in the game and started
playing because they didn't know how the whole thing was
gonna work out. So there's there's this idea, like you know,
and then a bunch of the big place feel fun.
It was scrambling off of a dropback. It wasn't like
it was designed run. I mean, the hell he scored
a touchdown on against Oakland. I want to say this
(43:14):
might have been back in two thousand, ken though, but
he's scored a touchdown against them. We called a draw.
The player was called forty. Well, when Coral buck Holter
wanted to get the handoff, Tim never handed it off.
He just followed him up the hole and it happened
to be the perfect coverage for that particular play call.
It was two man, so there's no one responsible for
the quarterback. Not only did they have a lead blocker
(43:35):
and Carl buck Halter a running back, but then he
just scampered off right through the middle of the field
of score touchdown versus the Raiders. I think we end
up losing the game, but nonetheless, that was kind of
how some of those plays worked out. Yeah, it's up
becoming eleven eleven football and just just just off a field.
It's it's gonna be fascinating to see. Uh, Brady, great
stuff as always. Hope you're healthy and thanks for joining us.
(43:55):
Thanks for having me. All right, that's the great Brady
Queen joining us in the Doug Gotlie Show on Fox
Towards Radio.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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