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What Up. Welcome into the Tuesday Pod. Got a great
show for you. Eric Mangini will join us. We'll discuss
what it would be like to coach this year with
limited training camp, no preseason games. Joel Klatt will join
us as well, and we'll ask Joel about the likelihood
of having a college football season. But the NBA's COVID
testing numbers are in. Well, let's go from there. Thanks

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boom Up America, Doug
got Leave Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having
a tremendous day. We are getting closer and closer and
closer to the sports that you love the most, being

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back on your television set, and uh, they now will
be gambled on. Let's just kind of be honest there, right.
Doug got the Show live in an effect from southern California.
Welcome in. Got a great show for you. Peter King's
gonna join us twenty five minutes. He visited the Vikings
training facility and wrote about it yesterday. We'll get his

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thoughts on the agreement, his thoughts on what we expect
to see this upcoming season. Joel Clatt will join us
in one hour. Will there be a college football season? Well? Last?
Joel and Eric van Jini will join us next hour
as well. We got an outstanding show for you. Let
me let me explain something I have. I've tried to.
I don't even try to position myself right like I

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think sometimes guys just try and be contrarian. To be contrarian,
I think sometimes guys go against everything they read in
the news. And I think sometimes guys try to position themselves. Hey,
what what can I do to position myself to this
side or to that side? I try, and I've done
this for a long time to just say what I think,

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and generally what I think is is, uh settles me
somewhere towards the middle right, whether it's politically, economically, socially,
and athletically in the world of sports, where in basketball
everything's about a three point shot. Yeah, Well, there's a

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little bit more to it than that he who makes
the most layups actually wins. It's not always just about
home runs now and strikeouts, as it is in baseball,
a little bit more nuanced to it. The same goes
for coronavirus. I was I did not show up in
a hazmat suit every day at work. On the other hand,

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I wasn't ridiculous. We're inder quarantine. Were inder quarantine? Right?
You can't go with other people's houses, like my dad
to share this conversation with you about my son. My
son's eleven years old. When we first start quarantines, like, man,
nothing's open, all right? Can we go to k one Speed? Like, no,
you can't go. That's not open. It's like, all right,
well I'm starved. Can we go to Benny Hannah? No,

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there's it's the world is gray. It's not black, sound white.
I I live in the gray like most of you do.
And while some people have said, hey, sports, you're just
gonna have to wait, I understand there's there's an economics
to sports. The reality also is sports is a very
very very good distract. It's like the best kind of distraction. Yes,

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it's a distraction. But it's also a distraction where a
lot of different businesses, even the one that I'm in,
make money off of it, which is important. This is
like a money isn't the only thing, but you also
can't live or deal or survive without it. In our country,
I like capitalism, just not pure out and out, you know,

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while while West capitalism like some aspects of socialism, but
I don't want to live in under a socialist regime
where that's the only thing, right, Like, there's a balance there.
Out of three or forty six players test in the NBA,
there have been no positive tests yesterday in the bubble.
That doesn't mean there won't be That doesn't mean there
won't be setbacks as more and more people come into

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the bubble. There's a second wave of media reporters that
are going to come in. There's also all these vendors
who are bringing food. It doesn't take much for one
person to not have washed their hands to transmit the virus,
and that's part of the thing, like we don't know
how We we know that it it spreads really rapidly,
really easily, but we also don't totally know if we're

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gonna be able to keep the bubble as pristine as
it is now. But the thing that I've tried to
implore upon you is that you're safer in the bubble
than you are out of it. It doesn't mean it's
your bubble, boy, that you're You're never going to be
able to see the lot of day, You're never going
no one's ever going to get effect infected. No. But

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we've had professional sports in Korea and Taiwan, We've had
a basketball tournament in Columbus, Ohio, and now we're gonna
have NBA in Orlando, and it appears that this thing
is in fact working. And look, it should work because
they have the best of the best, they spent the
most money, they've they're they're they're doing their absolute best

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to test as often as possible, to keep quarantine people
actually in quarantine. And again it's working. Does that mean
life can get back to normal? No? Does that mean
that this is going to be you know, perfect and
and then exact same type of basketball we remember. No,
there's a lot of pitfalls to it, setbacks to it,

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potential for disappointment to it. But if you can do
it in a basketball bubble, and you can have professional
baseball overseas, and we would assume professional baseball here which
is starting on Thursday, Yankees Nationals. Then guess what, You'll

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be able to do it in professional football, and you'll
probably be able to do it in college football as well.
And the argument about college, which is the one that's
being made, is the exact opposite of reality. And the
reality is the argument has been you know, you're you're
taking these kids and you're putting them, all these kids

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from different backgrounds into one kind of peatree dish and yeah,
but the reality is that they will be isolated, they
will be better supported. If they get sick, they'll be
taking aside in quarantine and able to recover. So I
actually think that that that the NBA bubble so far

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being sealed and working, it tells you how many of
those guys that did have it, like the Brooklyn Nets
and DeAndre Jordan, like you didn't want to You just
don't want to play basketball. That's that's what you could say, like, well,
I'm sick, okay, I respect that you can. You'll get better,
and once you get better, you can get to the
bubble and play your sport. It only shows that the

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guys that didn't want to show up and play. Don't
love playing, period, simple, I don't love playing. If you
love what you do, what's the expression, You don't work
a day in your life, then you don't love it.
It's okay, it's okay to not truly love something you're
blessed to do. Just don't try and convince me of otherwise.

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Don't try and convince me something else is going on,
And don't try and convince me that we can't do
it if you have the resources. Like, the difference in
this in high school sports is you just high school
sports are are stretched then in terms of their economics,
and those resources are are very hard to come by.
That's different than the end b A. That's different than

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the NFL. That's different than than Major League Baseball, that's
different than college football. Right, and and the other thing
is you'll hear people going like, is this really worthy
of special treatment? Well, maybe it's not. But the truth
is that all these athletes, even the collegiate ones, have

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always gotten special treatment. I've always gotten special treat because
if you take professional basketball players, the select few, and
there's four fifty in the entire world eight billion people,
four and fifty basketball players that are in the NBA.
That's a pretty select few people. If you take basketball

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players who are living at the absolute top of most
economies in most of these cities, and you say they're
actually safer in the bubble, imagine the college kid, which
only helps my point which I've made for years, which
is every part of being a college athlete is better
than being a regular student or than staying at home.

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All right, we do this thing where colleges are they
they only provide you know, room and board, and they
only and by the way, they don't provide the same
room and board they provide for everybody else. Everything is
better than everyone else, including protection from COVID nineteen. We
can do it. There'll be some setbacks, There'll be some

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guys that have to step away. It'll be a little
bit tedious at times. You'll start to wish that you'd
had a couple more fans. You start to miss those atmospheres.
But the truth is, like the NBA is finding out,
you're much safer in the bubble than you are at home.
And all of these bubbles, though different and not able

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to be sealed up as airtight as the twenty two
teams that are playing in Orlando. They'll make it as well.
The Kansas City Chiefs are telling you that they're going
to be good for the next half to full decade
in the NFL. They're the next dynasty. I'll tell you
why they're right. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.

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Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. This was Chris Jones, of course, resigned
with the Kansy Chiefs and extension. He was on Cody
and Golden Kansa City talking about the future of the Chiefs.
This is only the beginning. Be prepared to have another parade,
and another parade in another parade, because we're gonna make
sure not one, not two, not three, not four, but

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five plus range to Kansas City. You know, it's been
fifty years. The weight has been great, but the weight
it is over now and it's found a created dynasty.
So obviously this is gonna be met with scorn from
around the National Football League and clowned by many people
in my position. I will point out, and this is
really important that I believe that they're gonna be that good. Okay,

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it's It's interesting because the KNC Chiefs went from the
punchline to every to every joke. You know, Chiefs would
get get there, get to the playoffs and lose, not
just lose, but lose at home and usually with the
lead at the half. How many times did that happen?
Over But what I think we don't factor in. We

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look at the last twenty years of football and we
think the only dynasty was the was the Patriots. And
look if the if the if you made the point
that the Patriots went ten years between super Bowl wins
with Tom Brady, you'd be nely accurate, but it would
also pick apart the idea that the dynasty was twenty

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years in the twenty years long but it should be
pointed out that during that ten year span where they
didn't win a championship, they had an undefeated regular season,
went to a Super Bowl and lost in a crazy
game to the New York Giants, and then the next
year Tom Brady towards they see how those are like
the two best teams. So it does show that the
best team doesn't always in the super Bowl, or doesn't

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always been multiple super Bowls, and somebody that should give
you pause. Here's the flip side to it. During that
same period of time, the Eagles, who are coached by
Andy Reid, went to four straight NFC Championship games, one
of them they won. They went to Super Bowl and
they lost to the Patriots, ironically enough. But what's what's

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fascinating to me is the Eagles did that with I
know donno McNabb is the Eagles all time passing leader,
but let's be honest, don McNabb is not a Hall
of Famer. He's not really considered even close to being
a Hall of Famer. He was a really good quarterback.
He was a very good athlete, not a freak like

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Lamar Jackson, but a very good athlete. It's a good thrower,
just not crazy accurate. He's just he's okay and good
and solid at everything. If if any read could get
to four straight NFC champiship games with Donovan McNabb as
his quarterback, what can he do with the best quarterback
in football? And oh yeah, by the way, if we're
really honest, Mahomes is going to get better, not worse,

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barring some unforeseen drop in his work ethic. Right, Like
he's like, man, I got a twelve year contract half
a billion dollars. I'm good unless that happens. He's going
to get better because he'll have more information, more data
the process. And he's only in his third year in
the NFL, like he's still coming into his athletic prime.

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So so this idea that he's going to plateau or like,
no one actually believes that you'll get if he's gonna
get better, And he should have played in the Super
Bowl two years ago and did play and win the
Super Bowl this year, imagine what the future holds and
paramid Andy Reid who's been consecutively and consistently successful going
back to his Philadelphia days, and it's been successful here
in Kansas City. Why wouldn't they be. But the biggest

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pushback on that to me is do you do you
guys really think that athletes don't think they're gonna win championship?
Do you think that Tom Raight, if you asked him
in his heart of hearts, hey man, you guys do
want a Super Bowl? Hell yeah? If you ask Gronk,
who's only under contract for a year, are you gonna
how many more Super Bowls do you and Tom Brady
having you three? Four or five, not one, not two,
not three. They all do. I'm sure Aaron Rodgers believes

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he can win five Super Bowls if given five good defenses.
So I'm not gonna be critical of the reality is
it's hard to do. The reality is the only teams
that get back are the Patriots. Everybody else struggles, but
they're building it the right way. You know, when you
have a quarterback under contract. Daniel Jeremiahs told us, hey,

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you gotta get those pass rushers under contract. He has
two of those, two great ones. He's got great skill position. Guys.
They get Tyreek Hill, at least for the time being,
on a relative discount because he's such a knucklehead off
the football field. Do I think he's gonna win five
Super Bowls? I don't do. I think it's crazy to
think that. I don't Andy Reid, Pat Mahomes talent, defense,

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built the right way, not the greatest division in the world,
like Denver doesn't know what they have and drew lock
Chargers in between quarterbacks. Though a very talented roster, Raiders
perpetually in real rebuild mode haven't won a playoff games
since they lost in the Super Bowl almost twenty years ago.
It's not crazy. Be sure to catch the live edition

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of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific. Peter King joins us NBC Sports Football Morning
in America. He just had his first column in a
couple of months, which all of us read kind of
covered to cover your first travels. You go to you
go to Minnesota. When I read that article, I was like, Wow,
Vikings are super prepared for whatever they have coming with

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training camp. But it was coinciding with NFL players tweeting
out hashtag we want to play, but a lot of
questions about about what the NFL was gonna do. Have
they buy your estimation? Are we all ready to go?
Is everything all gonna be buttoned up in time? Well?
I think, Doug, everything uh has been arranged so that

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UH players can get back to work. But that is
really not the full question. I mean, that's really not
the fully answer because essentially, you know, now it's going
to depend everybody is. Everybody is kind of looking at
the NFL and saying, Okay, what are you going to

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do to get everything ready? Because the NFL, obviously it
is not like the NBA, It's not in a bubble,
and uh, it isn't even like Major League Baseball, where
uh you know, they're they're at their home facilities and
there's nobody around them. This is their players are going
home at night basically, you know. And so I I

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still think if you ask me what's going to happen,
I think it's I think it's still in significant doubts
that can be able to prove this off. Now, they
were going to have a good testing program and good
testing procedure, But I remind you, as I wrote the
other day, here is the issue, and it's a large

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issue that right now. Because testing tests will take up
to twenty four hours to get back two teams, you
could have five players in some teams training camp this
in the next week or so. You could have five
players test positive and go through practice one day whatever

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they're gonna do strength and conditioning and not know they
were positive the previous day until the following day. So
that's the kind of stuff that at some point that's
gonna jump up and bite the NFL. I I don't
know when, and I don't know what team, but I
still think there's a lot of doubts about what this

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whole thing is gonna work. If it does work, I
saw that MetLife is not going to have fans in
the stands in the fall, are they What are the
plans in terms of for now? So like best guesses
as of now, no fans in NFL stadiums to start
the season. No, well, to start the season. I doubt

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there will be fans, but I do think that there
will be fans at games at some point this year.
Uh and probably I mean, who knows, fifteen or twenty
thousand in some stadium something like that. But uh, yeah,
and I think that's going I think it's gonna vary

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per market about how exactly that's going to work, because
think of it right now, there's obviously not going to
be fans at sporting events in horrible Okay, but you know, now,
the question is when Houston and Kansas City meeting Kansas
City in six weeks to open the season, assuming they

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will open the season are almost seven weeks really, but
when they meet the questions, what's the governor of Missouri
going to say? And if the NFL doing um different
rules for different cities. I think they will, but we'll see.
You mentioned that that that first first game of the
season it doesn't appear that we're gonna have preseason games. Right.

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At first it was two and then the NFL offered
up no preseason games. So what is like this is
we've we've seen over the past couple of years since
the new CBA came in. Really we've seen teams like
the Patriots treat those first four games like like it's
extended preseason. Doesn't that become worse for the product? Like
no exhibition games? And I don't know about this, because

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the big push was for scrimmages, right, all these coaches
love these these contained scrimmages. Who knows if those are
going on. If you don't have those, how can you
possibly hope to have really good football Week one of
the season. Uh? Well, yeah, I mean I think the
core I think these are all issues. I mean, Doug

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I wrote, I think going back maybe the third week
of March, fourth week of March. Uh, that everybody has
to get used to, uh a lot of inconsistencies and
a different kind of football this year. And because it's
just it's not natural to think that all of this

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stuff is going to have no effect on the product.
It's going to have a big effect on the product,
and so I just think everybody needs to say you're right.
I think the first potentially the first couple of weeks
of the season, the quality of play is not going
to be very good. But I don't think there's I

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think we've known that no matter what the rules of engagement,
we're going to be in July and August. I think
it's unrealistic to expect that everybody's going to be clicking
and and and looking great once once the regular season starts.
I just I've never I've never thought that that's a

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very realistic thing to think. The great Peter King joining
us to Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Peter, generally,
outside of the Patriots, you don't see teams that get
to a Super Bowl go back to a super Bowl, Right.
That's really Eagles wanted. They struggled. They struggled the past
two years for a litany of reasons. Uh, Falcons lost it.
They struggled to get back. You know, we'll we'll, We'll

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see what happens with the Niners this year. They appeared
to be as are more talented than ever. Um. I
look at the Chiefs, though they returned twenty two, they
have a quarterback who's only started full time for two
years in those two probably should have gone two years ago,
did go to the Super Bowl and won the m
v P this past year. Um, and I've seen Andy Reid,
though they didn't go to consecutive Super Bowls in Philadelphia,

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four straight NFCY Championship games, one of them end up
in the super Bowl. He knows how to keep it consistent.
Which do you believe the Chiefs are. Are they more
like the Patriots and the Andy Reid teams of Philadelphia
or they more like everybody else that struggles to come
back from uh, from from from the super Bowl. Whenever
you have a quarterback and uh, you know who's either

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the best or one of the two or three best
in football. I think he's the best quarterback right now. Um,
you have a tremendous number of offensive weapons, and you've
also got, uh theoretically, uh you know, a good enough defense.
I mean, the Chiefs have done everything possible to make

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sure that they've got a really good chance to go back.
And you know, there's no team in the NFL this
year that's returning a team as good with his few
questions as the Chiefs are so We'll see how the
injury bug treats them. We'll see how the coronavirus bug
treats him. Um, but I think the Chiefs. I don't

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see any any real big faults with the Chiefs right now.
I think one thing I would say about about the
Chiefs they were fortunate last year that uh, you know,
they didn't have to run into the Ravens. And who
knows what would have happened if the Ravens had played
great against Tennessee in the divisional game they played for

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the second street year. They had a lousy uh playoff
game at home the year before against the Chargers, and
then last year this past year. So which Baltimore team
is going to show up when the calendar turns to
the anyuarry? I think that's the biggest roadblock for Kansas

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City getting to another Super Bowl. Well, they'll play each
other earlier in the year. Uh. The Ravens are a
fascinating story, right because now you'll have it. You have
though they're not able to to have O T A
s And we'll see about training camp. All these coaches
have had all this time to watch all the film
on the Ravens, and you know, now you can kind
of figure out Lamar if you will. I don't know
if there's any figuring out his incredibly explosive athletic talent,

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but I think what happens to the Ravens now that
he's kind of second time through the batting order, that
becomes fascinating. Um. You mentioned how the Kansa city didn't
have to run up on them. Let let me let
me start with Minnesota. You went to Minnesota, Dalvin Cook
says he wants to get paid. They shipped away Stefan Dix,
they rework Kirk Cousins contract. Kevin Stefanski, who made them

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into a very good conservative run first offense and stabilized things,
is now in Cleveland. What are the Vikings gonna look
like when they play? Well, I just remember the the
that was as much a Gary Kubiak thing. I'm not
trying to take anything away from Kevin Stevanski, but Mike
Zimmer did not want uh the greatest show on turf,

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and so the UH. If you look at Kirk Cousins
numbers two thousand eighteen versus two thousand nineteen, he threw
ten fewer passes per game. So that became a Dalvin
Cook team. Dalvin Cook's presence I think is really really
important to them. I don't think they're really gonna miss

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Stefon dis Uh, you know, because they drafted Justin Jefferson
and he is a to me, just Dad Warder pro.
I think he's ready to play well early on after
watching him at L s U. So I think the
biggest question you know about Minnesota is what's gonna happen

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with Dalvin Cook? Quite honestly, um, you know that. Uh.
Dalvin Cook obviously he wants to be paid. But if
he's going to opt out and not play this year,
that has to be done by August one. And as
Mike Florio wrote in Pro Football Talk a few days ago,

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the opt out now can be something that guys who
want new contracts can use his leverage. Hey, if you
don't give me a new contract and I'm opted out.
So I will Dalvin Cook do that? I don't know,
But I don't think the Vikings are inclined to do
very much, at least right now. Uh, now that you

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know there's still a week away from staring down the
back barrel of that gun, I don't think they're inclined
to do a lot with his contract. Right now, where's
your next stop? You went to Minnesota's your first trip.
You talked a lot about I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta quarantine for two weeks. I live in New York City,
and when you when I came back on Friday from Minneapolis,

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you fill out a form and you sign a commitment
to uh staying in New York for fourteen days and quarantining.
So not that anything is going on in any of
these training camps anyway, but I can't go anywhere until
a week from Friday, So you know, I'll have to
figure out a different kind of column or for this Monday.

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Usually I'm in the middle of I mean I would
I would have started probably later this week. Uh, you know,
one camps in twenty five days. But I have a
feeling that's not going to happen this year anyway. Your
Marriott points are going to get to suffer because of it.
Let me um Mark Davis came out and said, canceling
the entire NFL season still one of the three options

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the league has for two thousand twenty. What would it
take for that drastic a measure to be taken? I
I don't I mean I think they would have to
have a jillion players test pas it is and and
I that's I think that is uh. I wouldn't say
it's far fetched, but I'd say it's quite unlikely. You know,

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there's a lot of money to be made in the NFL,
and it only gets made if the games are played
and the games are on TV. That's it and not
I'm not I'm not trying to inflate the importance of
the NFL in our society, but if NFL games are

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not played this fall, I think that is a I
think it's a huge uh. We are not back to
anywhere near normal, and we all know that that things
are are are not obviously not back to normal around
the country, but I think that everybody from the president

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on down wants to see football played so that people
start to think, at least we've got something in our
lives that uh, that we're used to having. And especially
with the NBA playing in the bubble in in Orlando
and with Major League Baseball playing starting Thursday night, I

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would be very surprised if football I'm not saying that
that it may not get interrupted, but I'll be very
surprised if football at least doesn't start. Cam Newton signs
for pennies on the dollar to play for the New
England Patriots. And then there's Jared Sidham, who the Patriots
told everybody they love before they signed Cam Newton. Uh,
Stidham and and Hoyer are in Massachusetts working out with

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some of the guys. Cam Newton's in l A filming
videos talking about proving the rest of the NFL wrong.
Is there is there going to be a legit competition
whenever the Patriots come to camp. I'm sure there will be.
It's very It's not the Belichick way to hand a
job to a new player. It's just he doesn't do that. Uh.

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That's why. Although if I had to go to Vegas
right now and put money down on the Patriots starter quarterback,
obviously I would put money on Cam Newton. But I
don't think it's a lock, and I think Stidham is
going to get a chance. You know, think think of
this the Patriots, no matter what happens here the you know,

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if they if Cam Newton doesn't play, um, you know,
at the very least, what he's done is he's been
a spur to make Jared stid him better. So although
you and I both think that Cam Newton is gonna
win that job, you know, Bill Belichick is just gonna
let both of them go to camp and both of
them whenever practice does start, however it works. You know,

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remember this about Cam Newton. He Josh Josh McDaniels offensive
coordinator has not even been in the same room with
the guy yet. You know, he's the first time he
meets and and experiences anything with Cam Newton is going
to be the first day of training camp, you know.

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And so that's that's what is going to be weird
about this patriot situation. A lot of teams are in flux, No,
none more than the New England Patriots at quarterback. Well,
I'm glad that you have to save trip. I'm sorry
you have to quarantine fourteen days, but maybe that gives
it gives you more time to pump out some awesome,

(31:35):
awesome more pieces like you had yesterday. Thanks so much
for joining us and hope you're well. I really appreciate it. Dougs,
Thank you always awesome to catch up with Peter King
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This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Byron,
what's the game today, my friend? Dog? The game today?
Is all right to rank m Let's rank the top

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three teams that you're excited to watch in the Major
League Baseball season that begins on Thursday. I mean, personally, yes, yes,
this is all. This is just you. That's easy. Uh uh.
Dodgers three Yankees to Angels one a joy for pe.

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People don't know. I'm Angel fan. I want to see
show Heyo Tani hit and pitch. Um. You went and
got the best third basement on the market. It's been
a been a soft spot in their everyday line up forever.
You've got Mike Trout, I mean, obviously you know they've
had mass of pitching issues, but Angels the team most excising.

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And then of course you've got Mookie Betts with the Dodgers.
Uh that they seem to be loaded up ready and
as as the same with the Yankees. Of course, Uh,
they went and added the best free agent starting pitcher
on the market, and those are the three teams. Yeah,
I would. I would also. I would actually say with
your Angels point as well, even if you weren't a fan,
they would because of because of the rendoned uh signing

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and what you said about Otani, they'd be probably in
people's top fives anyway. For five, I think they'd be
in people's top fives. I'm reasonable to think, like, that's
not the team you want to see the most, right,
They're just they're just not. But I'm I'm I'm interested,
I'm I'm intrigued, Like I'm intrigued by the Reds, you know,
like I'm not a Reds fan, but I think they're

(33:47):
kind of the same thing. You know, they had Castianos,
they should have a pitching you know, Sonny Gray and
and uh Trevor Bauer. So yeah, so there's they may
not be the name brand, but so I agree with
you Andres also in that dis Yeah, I told the
guys yesterday I just purchased a new Padres cap because
of the new brown and gold yesterday. You know, just
a casual one, not a not a fitted one. But yeah,

(34:09):
I why not? Why not rock the new colors? Uh? Doug?
Rank do you think should win the NBA m v
P Award? Now that we know it will only count
towards what the guys did between October and March? Okay?
Who should? Who I think should win the MVP? Okay? Well,
I've I've been outspoken saying Lebron should win it. Janice too,
and I would say, um uh oh hoo hoo. I

(34:36):
do think my third pick third most likely Will um
Will will be the guy who will surprise you the most.
Luca would be my third third for m v P.
You know, I mean a game nine assists the game Um, I,

(34:59):
he's he's only twenty one years old, and they frankly
overachieved based upon their their talent. I would say Luca
would be my third pick. Doug. Who do you think
should win NBA Coach of the Year the Coach of
the Year Award. I think Frank Vogel should be in
discussion there. Frank Voge will be at UH three, Mike
Budenholzer would be at two, and I think Nick Nurse

(35:24):
should be at number one. I mean, they lost Kawai
Leonard and they've won forty they went forty six and eighteen,
so I understand Milwaukee's one more, but they kept youngest.
I want to stand the Lakers have have but they
added Anthony Davis and Lebron James has been fully healthy.
Toronto lost their best player and they've been right there long.

(35:46):
Same lines of last year. Well, the NBA reportedly will
have the Jumpman logo on the NBA statement jerseys that
will be unveiled for next season. Doug, what are the
three best shoe logos? I guess in in you know,
sports shoes, athletic shoes, the best logos. You've got the

(36:06):
jump Man, You've got the Nike swoosh, you've got the
Adidas three stripes. What do you think is the best?
I think you just nailed it in in order right,
jump Man's one, Swoosh two. I would say, you know
three is, But then you have kind of the individual
guys like Shocks. Old logo was a cool one where
he's like dunking and lifting his knees up like that

(36:27):
was a That was a cool one. What about that
new balance and the new balance and is solid if
you're a runner, if you're a runner um the the converse,
the the old Converse logo was really cool with the
like the what is that kind of like a star
at a greater than right? Yes? Less? What's it? Well?
Maybe depending on what side of the shoe you're on,

(36:49):
correct the star? The star is greater? Is that where
they got it from? I don't know. It's greater than
everything else? I'm not sure that that would be. It's
a it's a great question, alright, Doug. Finally, rank your
three best summer vacation memories as a kid. So this
is under eighteen best three summer vacation memories. We used
to go to New York every year. That was our thing.

(37:11):
And uh, I just remember being how does all get out? Um?
I would say playing at West My dad like getting
me in a game at West fourth Street in New
York when I was like fourteen years old. That's probably
number one. Uh he got he had his U We
went to Yankee Stadium, my first ever Yankee game, and

(37:32):
he kind of got swindled, like had four tickets and
I told him to make sure and look at all
the tickets to make sure all of them were in
the box section, and he didn't, so one was down
low and the other three were up so high the
concession man would call up there would be that would
be too uh. Family vacation, Oh we went to Alaska
would be one. Yeah, I had an uncle got married

(37:55):
in Alaska. That was pretty went to Juneo and when
I saw puffins, when salmon troll ling fishing, that was
that's them won. This is game time on The Duck
Gottlieb Show. Former head coach Eric Mangini is gonna join
the show coming next. I'll ask him how the Chiefs
can be more like the Patriots and not like most

(38:17):
Super Bowl teams that's upcoming. Um. Plus, I want to
ask him about how how hard will be for these
coaches if they don't have legit training camp or preseason
games to get ready for that those first games. Eric
Mangini is next in The Doug Gotlip Show. Be sure
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(38:59):
ANDFL team is getting close and really really close to
uh to reporting and m it appears uh that we
won't just like it appears that we uh we won't
have preseason games, and like this offseason is gonna be

(39:21):
very different. So let's bring in the coach. Eric Mangini,
course longtime assistant and been a head coach of the Jets,
head coach to Cleveland Browns. He joins us in the
Doug Gottli Show on Fox Sports Radio. What let's just
start with no O, T A S and some form
of different training camp. As a former head coach, how

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does that change your preparation for the season, Well, it's
it's gonna be the roughest on the new head coaches,
on the new staff, on those groups. I can't imagine
going into season where you really haven't spent any time
with the players that that we're on the team, that

(40:03):
you inherited, or the players that you've brought in in
any TANGI away And I know you've done it on
zoom that that's one component of it, but you really
don't know it, and they don't know the new guys
that are coming in the rookies. They have no idea
how things work in the building. So you haven't worked
together as a staff on the field, you haven't done

(40:23):
anything anything as a staff on the field. And then
the idea of having to go and play a meaningful game,
a game that counts, without ever going through any of
the process in pre season. That's really hard. That is
extremely hard. The first time that some of these guys
are going to call a game is going to be

(40:45):
when it counts, and those guys are gonna be playing
against guys like Andy Reid or Bill Belichick or or
experienced staff. It's a it's a tremendous disadvantage. Yeah, I
need that parts. You know. We we've gotten this place
where and I know the pendulum swings. You got to
this place where it's like, man, we don't like the
four preseason games. Okay, let's do away with preseason games. Fine,

(41:07):
we don't need him Like, no, no, that they were
there for a reason. Um, we don't know about those scrimmages, right.
One of the things when I talk to NFL people
that will say, well, like, look, we actually like these
controlled scrimmages as much or better than the preseding games.
But it feels like we won't have those either, and
and that makes all of your points even more even

(41:27):
more important. You're not gonna have those things. I just
can't imagine the first time. Let's say a new staff
has as as an away game, so it's the first
time they they've traveled together, the team playing, the team hotel,
all the things that happened prior to a game getting
over the stadium. And and look, it may seem like
these things are inconsequence all but to not. There's there's

(41:48):
things that happened. There's there's mistakes that are made, there's
there's a learning curve, there's pregame warm up, there's going
to and from the booths. There's communicating too, and from
the booth there's communication, the silence. All that stuff gets
worked out in the preseason. And I'm not saying it
has three four games, but you're not even gonna you're
not even experienced traveling as a team until you have

(42:10):
to go on the road for the first time. And again,
if you have a veteran staff and you've got veteran
operations guys, and you've you've been together, people know how
it works. But if you've never done this. It's gonna
be like a fire drill for some of these some
of these groups, Eric being Jani joining us on the
Doug out Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, I
was discussing the Chiefs last hour, and look, unless you're

(42:33):
the Patriots, it's been really hard to get back to
the Super Bowl right now. The one got one of
the one of the few coaches who's been able to
have consistent success even during the Patriots era, was Andy Reid,
and with who I would deem to be in a
far inferior quarterback to Pat mahomes in Donald McNabb um.

(42:54):
How how can the Kancity Chiefs, who returned twenty of
their starters they've drafted, well, how can the Cane Kancie
Chiefs more replicate those Eagles teams? Or maybe the Patriots?
Then seemingly everybody else who's who's reached and won a
Super Bowl, Well, they have some things going for him
that that helped him have a chance to replicate the Patriots.

(43:17):
The fact that Andrew Reid has been coaching twenty one years,
He's only had two losing seasons during that that time.
He's obviously been able to adjust to the changes and players,
that changes in free agency, that changes in in the
NVER rules, all the things that have happened over that
same time period that that New England has has had Bill.
He just hasn't had the playoffs success that that Bill's had.

(43:40):
But now he's got a quarterback that that's arguably the
most talented player in the league, and the quarterback that's
showing that he's one of the most selfless guys in
the league. And I give Nick Right a hard time
all the time because he loves Kansas City, and I
just want to give him a hard time. But when
you've got a guy in that position and he's your
best player, and it looks like he's one of your

(44:03):
best people, you've got a chance to compete for a
championship every single year because of not just what he
brings physically, but the message that it sends, the way
that he works, the way that he's being selfless with
his contract. That's a powerful, powerful message in the locker room.
I agree, and I think you know. I remember driving

(44:25):
along and getting ready for a week one of the
season two years ago and a buddy mind calling hiss
like the league's in trouble. That kid is the real deal.
Like we thought he was good, and we thought he
could be really good, and we should have taken him,
and they took him and he sat and he's gonna
be He's gonna be amazing. And he's been better than
I think anybody even thought he could be. And like
you said, it's about you know, you can't full players.

(44:46):
They know who's the real deal as a person, and
they're obviously all in on it. Let me ask you
about Cam Newton. You and I haven't discussed this, um.
There are a lot of questions about his shoulder, about
his health now he'll you mentioned coordinators and coaches, not
having called plays before and going against the Andy Reids
and the Belichicks of the world. How hard will it

(45:08):
be for Cam Newton to uh to to to become
a part of the Patriots offense when he hasn't in
the same room as Josh Mattel's yet. Well, there's a
lot of steps that have to go right for for
this to work in New England with Cam Newton. And
and I've said on other other platforms that Cam's the

(45:28):
guy who's taken the risk. He's got five hundred and
fifty thousand dollars and guaranteed money. That's it. That's it. Now.
In contrast, we look at Tom Brady down in Tampa Bay.
He's got fifty million dollars and guaranteed money from from
Tampa Bay. So they took a much bigger risk. So
if it doesn't go well during training, Camper doesn't go
well early, the Patriots can move on from from Cam

(45:50):
Newton and and it's around here and Cam's got to
be healthy, and that's a big in the fact that
that they passed in Washington on them they moved on
from in Carolina. Those to me are our big concerns.
Then they're fitting into the New England culture. And it's
not that he doesn't have the ability to, but it's

(46:11):
not for everybody. There's no Officers Club. It's hard. It's hard.
Every day you're going to be criticized and coached and
and and driven in ways that that doesn't exist on
every team. And for some people they can, they can
embrace it and thrive under it, and for others they can't.
And I know everybody brings up Randy Moss, but you

(46:33):
can also talk about the Dahlias Thomas, you can talk
about Michael Bennett. You can talk about Chad Johnson. It's
it's not for everybody, and it's hard for people to
understand that, but but it isn't. Yeah, lots of guys
think they want to be coached until they are right.
It's it's like in our business, like, hey, give me
some honest feedback. You're like, all right, well that last

(46:54):
segment really sucked. Uh, let's take a listen to it.
Here's what you did wrong. You're like, whoa, I feel terrible. Okay,
you know, like and and and the other thing is
it's not just once, like you're gonna get honest feedback
every single day. So some guys can handle it early
on and they made bristle up and and and and
eat it. But it's it's you're you're getting coach, and

(47:17):
everybody's treated the same way. And the other part about
the study that that I think people forget is they
had Tom Brady in the locker room. So if you
were Randy Moss or Corey Dillon or take your pick
of the guys that have come in, when you see
that guy who's you know, arguably the greatest player of
all time take the coaching, it's pretty easy to say, Okay,

(47:39):
I'm gonna do it too. Now he's gone, you don't
have that force multiplier in the locker room, so that
makes it different too. So what do you think happen?
I mean, do you think that there is I mean
what is Jared's did him? Definitely the backup is a
legit competition with Look I said, I said Cam could
not only not be the star, that he may not

(48:00):
make it a week one and and and people are
shocked that I said that, But you don't know if
he's truly healthy. And New England doesn't know if he's
truly healthy. And like I said, when you only have
five fifty thouars a new guy, and look, they signed
him the day that that negative news came out, that's
five dollars. You could chalk it up as as pr

(48:22):
value if you wanted to where else can you spend
five hundred fifty thous and have a positive news cycle
the day that all that negative who gets released on
your team? I mean it's the Cam has to go
in and show that it's gonna work, and show that
he's gonna work in the way that they're looking for it.
Otherwise New England moves on in the back of the

(48:43):
two guys that they were content going into the season
with the gotlip show here on Fox Sports. Trader, you've
been the head coach to the Cleveland Browns. I think, um,
Kevin Stepanski's a pro. He gets his first chance to
be a head coach, and he wants to run the football. Now,
you already have David and Oku, who appears to be
unhappy they signed. Austin Hooper is a pass catching tremendous

(49:04):
pass catching tight end. You got. You got guys are
thirsty out wide, I mean to wide receivers are legit talents,
but also want the football. He got multiple running backs.
Does that thing all work together? I think it's Look,
I've gotten to know Kevin a little bit since he's
been in Cleveland, and I really like him, and I
think he's smart. I think that he is approaching this

(49:28):
from a perspective of uh, He's excited about the opportunity.
He's he's not intimidated by it, but he realizes there's
a lot of things that he has to learn and
and I've just been really impressed by his maturity in
handling this opportunity. And I think that's going to go
a long way. Now what happens and what they haven't

(49:50):
been able to do very well in Cleveland and the
recent past is handle the amount of personalities that they
have in the room and and it is tough to do.
And and some of that's going to have to come
from the way that that Baker Mayfield response. You know,
how how well does he handle them running the ball consistently?
What what type of leadership does he bring that that

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I'm not sure he was bringing, you know to this point.
You know, it has that change. It's it's it's volatile
right now because of the types of personalities that they
have in But I do think the leadership with Kevin
is uh is giving him a chance that maybe be
a better chance than they had, you know, in the

(50:34):
last couple of years. Doug Gotlieb show here on Fox Sports.
Treaty that's the voice of Eric Mangini Chicago is an
interesting one. They're bringing fools. And if you look at
their coaching staff from the head coach Um who he
was with, I believe in both Kansas City and in Philadelphia,
um In Matt Matt Naggie, and then you know Bill Laser,

(50:57):
and you know even even his terback coach was his
offensive coordinator last year when he was in Jacksonville, like
he has legit relationships with everybody in the offensive side
of the football is calling plays. Then he got mitted Robinsky,
who he does have the sweat equity of being a starter.
But he's coming off a season where he seemed to
lose his confidence that they didn't have confidence in him.

(51:20):
How does how does the Chicago thing playoff? I thought
that is is a great question because when when Nick
has been brought in to be the guy, it hasn't
really worked out anywhere that that that that's happened for him.
I remember he was in uh Kansas City with Andy

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I believe it was Kansas City with Andy and and
you know he he ended up moving on from him.
But whether it's Jacksonville or whether it's been any of
his stops when he's had the opportunity to be the guy,
he hasn't performed the way that that we saw, you
know he did with the Eagles. So it's hard for

(52:01):
me to think that suddenly that's that's changed dramatically. I mean,
he looks more like a closer, like that's that's where
his best you know, his his best spot has been
historically now with with Mr Biskuy, whether or not that
changes his motivation, you know, you hear guys sometimes talk
about that, but it's hard for me to believe he

(52:22):
wasn't trying his hardest up to this point. It's hard
for me to believe that someone who's had the success
that he's had it was drafted where he was, hasn't
been giving his his his best shot. So it's not
it's not like he's just gonna try harder and subding
that'll change. Um, I don't know if they have a
real answer. This might be one of those things where

(52:44):
you know, they piece meal it together, they go with
the hot hand and you know, are starting over again
next year. Yeah, no, it's it's just it's going to
be really, really, really interesting. Um. I'm intrigued by the rams.
You know, he we we went from a team everybody
talked about to a team that and look, the playoffs
are expanding. Had they expanded last year, they would have

(53:06):
made would have made the playoffs. People really down on
on golf. I mean, part of what her golf was,
Todd Gurley wasn't the same. A part of it was
people tried to make him win games, and he could not. Uh.
Sean McVay seemed ahead of the curve before but struggled
some last year. They've changed a ton of their coaching
staff and not a lot of discussion. What are your
thoughts in the rams? Well, this is a little bit

(53:29):
of the the NFL sort of culture an hour or
what happens where you know, you come in, you have
early success, you're a genius, you have a little bit
of you take a little bit of a step back.
You know you can't coach anymore. And you're never obviously
as smart as people portrayed to be when things are
going well, and you never usually as inactive people portrayed

(53:51):
to be when when things are going poorly. But it
is interesting because they did spend big, they did have
a ton of personalities, and I wasn't sure how that
was going to work out. It was a little bit
like Cleveland in the sense that that all these talents,
all these talented guys that had all the big personalities,
and I saw that a locker room was potentially being

(54:12):
incredibly combustible. I think Wade Phillips helped that. I think
Wade typically when he goes to a new organization had.
There is a Wade Phillips effect and he has a
really positive outcome early on. But now now they're in
the second part, the second iteration of this story, and

(54:33):
it's going to be interesting to see what Sean has
learned to this point. You know, it's it's easy to
move on from people, It's easy to make changes, but
it's it's hard to then go replace those parts and
to put those parts in place in a way that
that can function at a high level. So I'm I

(54:55):
don't know how this is gonna go. I I think
that they're it is going to be a ton of challenges,
especially in that division to try to get them back
to where where they were. And look, they could easily
be the bottom of the division, I know, right, I
mean from from a team that everybody was trying to
copy to. Now of a sudden, fighting your way up,

(55:15):
Arizona appears to start and be figuring out. Obviously got
Seattle and San Francisco is just loaded. Uh. It's gonna
be fascinating to see what happens with the Rams. Eric
man Genie the Man Genius, the former head coach in
the NFL. You can check them out on first things
first on the TV side, Thanks so much for joining us.
Take care of those kiddos. All right, we'll talk to
you to Oh yeah absolutely. Joel Clad joins the show next.
What are his thoughts on the likelihood of having an

(55:37):
entire college football season next year? Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three pm Easter noon Pacific. Let's let's get Joe Clatt
in here. Cloud. We were supposed we were supposed to
have that college football game? Was it Wisconsin? Who's Wisconsin
gonna play in uh Lambeau earlier this year? God? Why

(55:57):
am I not? They we're gonna play Notre Dame that
we don't? We don't of that. Um, what's your level
of confidence that we're going to get a college football
season in Well, it's a great question. If I first
of all, can I just say, like, if I had
a dollar for every time I get asked that everything, say,
oh my goodness, I might be able to quit. Um, Doug,

(56:19):
here's the here's the deal. Like, if if you held
me down and you said you had to bet money
one way or another, I would bet on that we
were gonna have are going to have some sort of
season we're gonna see college football games. Um, I wouldn't
bet a ton of money on that, but I still,
I still am of the belief that this is going
to happen. There are and a lot of really positive

(56:42):
signs that get no mentioned in the media for obvious reasons. Uh,
you know, the narrative wants to be kept so strong
in one direction, and I think the thing that's bothers
bothersome to me, Doug, is that it seems to be
the case even with the college football media. You know,
they only want to portray one side of the story.
But there are several factors and several points of data

(57:03):
that are pointing in a positive direction. Let me just
share one of them. Uh, you saw yesterday, I'm sure
that the NBA came out along with the NHL, and
just the minimal amount of positive tests that have been reported,
including the NBA has having zero, Well, that is very
much in line with what's been going on at the
collegiate level. With the kids back for voluntary workouts, there

(57:25):
was an obvious um contingent of positive tests. When the
kids first came back to campus, they kind of brought
the virus back and then as the organizations and the
programs you know, set protocols, made plans, decided to go
about their business the way that they were going about it,
what we've seen is those number of positives have plummeted,

(57:46):
not just gone down, they have plummeted, including several schools.
Let me just quote Oklahoma. The last two rounds of testing,
they've had zero positive tests. And I hear that time
and time again across the landscape. It's not reported as
such because in the narrative wants to be, you know,
keep everybody in panic mode and under fear. But there
are some some positive data points towards us seeing some

(58:08):
sports here this fall. Yeah, I'm I'm with you. Um okay.
So then the question becomes you'll have some that say, well,
you can't have just the football kids back and not
the students back on campus. My point be, why if
if everybody's taking their classes online. By the way, we
all know that lots of athletes have taken classes online
for years, why why can't you? I mean, as long

(58:30):
as you're taking class, you're still representing the school, You're
still a student athlete. What what I mean are are
you of the opinion that if you're taking that. If
you're not, if the students aren't back, you can't have football. No,
I'm not of that. I think that that's absolutely ridiculous.
I mean, athletes are on campus all the time when
there is no term and no school and no other

(58:50):
students on campus, Doug, every every sport, think about it,
whether it's spring break or Christmas break or or during
the summer term. I mean, at leats are constantly asked
to do things above and beyond what the other students are.
And I'm not even saying that we have to ask
them to do more, because again, they can be enrolled
in class. And I would just go back to this.

(59:11):
I believe deep down that it is far safer for
these athletes to be under the care and supervision of
the health experts, the training experts, their coaches, the structure,
everything that goes on on the campus. Then they are
if we were to just say, hey, you know what,
let's punt and go to the spring and everybody, let's
let's just go home and let this thing quiet down,
They're gonna go into places where they don't have care,

(59:33):
we don't know who they're hanging out with, they won't isolate,
they won't quarantine, they won't get the best medical care
that they could possibly get. And I think that that's
actually more dangerous for these kids and keeping them in
um uh in the campus, on the campus with the
testing protocols and everything going on to potentially play the season,
and and that gets no run whatsoever. You know, everyone
says like, oh, you don't care about these kids. The

(59:56):
fact of the matter is that these kids are under
far gray or danger from things like lightning strikes, drowning
car accidents than they are from COVID nineteen. But nobody
wants to talk about it that way. But those are
the facts, uh, that we are faced with right now.
All right, So, um, but but why why do you
think that the narrative is negative? Well, I think that's

(01:00:20):
a more broad discussion to be by frank with you,
and I think it it goes way above just college football. UM.
I think there are several in the media, in the
sports media that constantly are trying to appease uh their
brethren across the space right in the non sports media. UM.

(01:00:44):
I think that you see that quite a bit. Um.
I think that uh, to a certain extent, we have
now gotten into an economic model with the media where
sensationalism is what gets clicks, and clicks then becomes monetize
herbal uh and quite frankly, rational thought doesn't get clicks.

(01:01:04):
It just doesn't, Doug right, like sensationalism does. Fear does.
We've seen it in regular media for now years, and
now we're seeing it in the sports media. But the
bottom line is is that when you actually look at
the facts, you can um come to a conclusion that
there are dangers, that there is a solution, and that

(01:01:25):
there are data points that point towards some positivity. Um.
But that to say, why is it like this? I
don't know. I I do think that to some extent,
a lot of the sports media is constantly trying to posture,
to prove to old classmates or whomever. Others in mainstream media, Um,

(01:01:45):
you know, just how how good they are at their job.
Doug otlip Show, Fox Sports Trader, that's the voice of
Joel Klatt, lead college football islists for Fox Sports. Okay,
so who benefits? Like it does feel like this is
going to speed up the process of of separating the
men from the boys, the top five conferences from everybody

(01:02:06):
else and that that separation once you stop playing non
conference games, um, though it hurts the college towns some um,
and you don't have the fans like those the Columbuses
of the world, the ann Arbors of the world, the Austin's,
the you know, even the aims as can survive, whereas
the max schools cannot. That doesn't this just kind of

(01:02:26):
speed up, um, kind of the natural selection process which
we felt like was happening anyway. I think so, I
think that there's a lot of truth to that. I
think that, um. I think that the conferences have done
the right thing in order to you know, retain or
create solutions to potentially play, which is kind of minimize

(01:02:47):
the scope of the people that come in contact with
their players, right, and and that's how they've gone to
these conference only schedules and and in some areas like
the Big Ten. But you're exactly right about the effect
that that has on the smaller levels of football, the
Group of five, the fcs, UM, so on and so forth.

(01:03:08):
To me, there's not a great solution because part of
why football is so important to the intercollegiate athletic model
is because it is the overwhelming driver of revenue not
just to line people's pockets. I think that that's actually
totally secondary. And and I don't I would love your
thoughts on this, but the driver of opportunity. So there

(01:03:31):
are a hundred and fifty thousands scholarship athletes in the
n c a A. And I know you asked a
specific question about football, and you don't have to apologize
for having a good, strong opinion. Go for go. This
sport provides thousands of scholarships and opportunity to further an
education for athletes, um, of all genders and all sports

(01:03:56):
all over the country. And and so what we have
to be cognizant of is the ways that we can
continue to support student athletes, make it safe for them
to compete, as well as grow revenue in order to
maintain the opportunities that are out there. I don't want

(01:04:17):
to see Stanford cuddle lemon sports. Nobody does, right Like
those are scholarships lost. That's opportunity lost for kids all
over the country. UM. And and what you've seen right
now is over a hundred and twenty athletic programs throughout
the n c A have been cut. So yes, I
do believe that you're going to see a separation, and

(01:04:40):
part of that separation is is going to come with
a cost, and that cost is going to be something
like you're gonna have to grow the playoff. You're gonna
have to increase revenue in nonconference games with other high
quality Power five opponents, so that through the revenue sharing model,
it can trickle down to the lower lower levels in

(01:05:01):
order to maintain those levels of football and in order
to maintain sports across the board, to maintain the opportunity
for kids that play any number of sports all all
over the country. I completely agree with you. I the
opportunity is the part that we don't have a calculation.
Even for the the high level kids to get into
a college. I think it's an opportunity, but the opportunity

(01:05:22):
for the it's spread out across. There are so many
kids that that that get into college and and the
bubble is the perfect example of it, or or playing
for a college team right now is a perfect example
of it. Just just the resources you get in terms
of keeping you healthy, you don't get at home, and
you're treat is a higher class. You're not treating like
everybody else. You treat is a higher class of people.

(01:05:42):
Regardless honestly, if your level of skill on the football
or basketball field, that's exactly right. And I think that
you're gonna see a massive shift in collegiate athletics UM
out of the necessity because regardless of if there is
football or not, these budgets are going to be hit
by the overall economy. Uh, you know the COVID nineteen right,

(01:06:03):
I mean you're going to see that. I think you
you understand that covering college basketball. So I think what
you're gonna see, um, Doug, is an expansion of the playoff,
not out of fairness, but out of a need for
expanded revenue sharing. UM. That is of the utmost of importance. Again,
not just so that there is quote unquote more money,

(01:06:25):
but there's more money to share because again, like this
comes down to opportunity maintaining collegiance sports so that kids
all over of every ilk model, race, gender, whatever, that
play any number of sports can maintain the opportunity to
continue their education via athletics. Joe glad Our guest and

(01:06:45):
the Doug Olip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, if
they do the spring thing, I mean that the top
level kids are going to play, are they well no,
um I have not been a proposed in it of
the spring thing, and and it's because I believe wholeheartedly

(01:07:06):
that you have to wagh the costs of both um I.
I believe that playing in the spring and then turning
around and playing in the fall is very dangerous, okay,
to the health and safety of the players. It does
not give you the requisite time to recuperate, to regenerate,

(01:07:28):
and then to develop for the next season. Okay, So
that that's important. Not many guys who actually played the
full season actually go into spring ball and compete in
the spring. It's very rare. Why because they have things
like surgeries, nagging injuries. They're held out of spring. For
the most part, spring is a developmental um period for
the lower levels of your team, the younger players and

(01:07:49):
your team that have not gone through the rigors of
a full season. To try to play a full season
and spring and then turn around and do it again
the fall, I think that there are massive consequences to
the health and safety of the players trying to do so.
I think those health and safety consequences are far greater
than the health consequences of playing through COVID nineteen. In particular,
for this age group. Now, that might not be the
same for the sixty five or seventy year old offensive

(01:08:11):
line coach, and I understand that, and we need to
protect that person. But for the student athlete, it is
far more dangerous to play spring fall than it is
to play this fall through this virus. Based on all
the statistics and government data that we have been given
to this point, CDC, dot dot org, SO dot gov.
I really believe that the spring is a bad idea

(01:08:32):
because of that. I think that it's it's a punt
for people that don't feel like there are solutions this fall,
of which I do feel like there are many. Let
me give you one. I believe that if we reduce
the number of games to ten, play in some sort
of bubble where you've got conference affiliations or just within
your own conference, Doug, what you can do is you
can expand the season from week zero all the way

(01:08:54):
to Christmas or just thereafter. That's about eighteen or nineteen weeks,
so you can play ten games in eighteen or nine weeks.
What you can then do is play your first two
games right away, and then you can have essentially a
bye week between every game thereafter. What that allows for
is that the inevitable positive tests will occur and you
can isolate and quarantine your team without losing numbers of games.

(01:09:15):
You can't force and get uh, you can't encourage kids
to get back too soon, so it's just safer. You
can take three or four days off, you can maintain
the testing regiment. All of those things are a better solution,
a safer solution for kids, rather than just pumping to
the spring and then trying to get them to play
a season in the spring and turn around again and
play a season in the fall of two thousand twenty one.

(01:09:36):
Can you imagine that if we had and we the
fight has been for nine conference games. I can imagine
if these conferences you get ten or eleven conference like
they all only played conference games every you like, how
much better the sport would be You get these massively
expanded conferences where you don't actually play everybody in your league, Like,
I just think it would be better and healthier for
the sport. But it's we'll, we'll, we'll see what ends

(01:09:57):
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That is that is loaded? What is your handicap um?

(01:10:20):
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don't even now even Lad, you don't even like you.
Claud great stuff, man, Thanks what you're joining us. I
appreciate it. Sey got better hair than me. He's get
this adorable little family and a plus two point three?

(01:10:41):
Like leave leave now? Is Russell Wilson saving the Seahawks
from irrelevancy? Colin Coward thinks, so give my thoughts. Next.
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(01:11:02):
what the Fox said and now. This was Colin Cowherd
reacting to the Seahawks being ranked the worst defensive line
in the NFL. By Pro Football Focus. So now Russell
Wilson has not only the best offensive line in the league,
all of us would acknowledge it's a grease fire has

(01:11:24):
been for years. He now has the worst defensive line.
So who who doesn't have support? Let me ask you,
is Seattle well run or, like I've been saying as
joy as my witness for over a year, Russell Wilson
just saving a bad franchise. They're not well run. Right now,
Aaron Rodgers not only has the fifth best defensive line
and the fourth best offensive line, he has a number

(01:11:46):
one receiver, Damante Adams, a star. He has a number
one running back Aaron Jones star. He's got a new
offensive minded head coach in a league which is clearly
rules in legislation are benefiting offensive guys. Who has help
and who doesn't. Aaron had more than your thought early
Russell has virtually none. Now he is saving this franchise.

(01:12:13):
I would I would say that, in all honesty and
all canador, Aaron Rodgers save the Packers for years. Like
that's one of the things that happens when you sign
those gigantic deals. It's hard to find all the pieces
to put in place. Kind of around you. And as
much as we're looking at the Seahawks now, we don't

(01:12:34):
know if Jadeveon Clowney ends up resigning with them. They
have found a way to figure it out. And we
can give Russell Wilson all the credit. He's terrific, but
he was also helped out by a tremendous running game
last year. Um, but carrying a franchise is something that
Rogers has done, Matt Stafford's tried to do. Lots of

(01:12:55):
guys that take that big paycheck, that's what ends up
happening to them unless you have kind of the planning
and replanning and replanning after that of uh of dudes
like um uh, like what's happening in Kansas City? That's
what the Fox said. What does Cowhards deal with Russell Wilson?

(01:13:18):
He just he loves Russell Wilson. Like, find someone who
loves you as much as Colin Cowhard loves Russell Wilson. Yes,
Ryan Music, I think I am shocked that I found
someone who's a bigger fan of Russell Wilson than Dan Buyer. Um,
it was it was something that I didn't think was possible.

(01:13:39):
Why or you want to respond, Well, you know, I
think Ryan's being uh, you know, a little kind there.
I am a fan of his, But I agree with you,
Doug that the running game has really helped that organization.
Um turned things around, and Russell Wilson has had to
save them. What was it three years ago, he had
every single account for every single touchdown but one. There

(01:14:00):
has been that case. But the uh, I think the
running back position with Chris Carson and Rashad Penny was
really becoming a strength and was really going to make
them dangerous down the stretch run and then they both
get hurt. So um, I love Russell Wilson. I think
he's been magical and amazing, and he's right he that
doesn't get a lot of help with the offensive line,

(01:14:20):
but they did acquire Dwayne Brown a couple of years ago.
They've been completely negligent on their defensive line, which is
why I expect them to do some work between now
and the start of the season, whether it be in
a Gockway trade or signing Clowney or Everson Griffin or whoever.
But um, I think your point about the running backs
is is a very good point. Yeah, and I like
I I don't. I don't. I don't know if anybody

(01:14:40):
has said he's not awesome, but but this is, this
is what happens when you make all that money, like
you have to. You have to hit home runs. You
gotta hit home runs with things you just do with
with with draft picks. And they still get a bunch
of them lately. I mean they're still kind of living
off the you know of the you know, the Camp

(01:15:02):
Chancellor Richard Sherman stuff. But Carson was the seventh round pick,
So yeah, Chris Carson, they hit hit on, but what's
the name from Santego State? They know for most part
missed on. Part of it was he wasn't great early,
but then he got hurt last year after finally having
a good season. So the whole thing is interesting. But
I think acting as if Russell Wilson is the only

(01:15:22):
quarterback to every carrier's team would be would be inaccurate,
would would be And that's that That is what the
Fox all right, we got a lot of things to
get to. Um. There was some numbers came out in
the NBA yesterday and it's frankly great news for all sports,
all sports in terms of coming back this fall. I'll

(01:15:42):
explain why we need to just take a breath and
figure out what's happening in Orlando. That's next The Doug
Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the
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I Heart Radio. Ah app What up? Doug Gotli Show,
Fox Sports Radio. So in southern California, and I think

(01:16:06):
they have this in New York. I don't know if
they have it everywhere. But if you go into a restaurant,
they at the at the front door, they will have
like a grade for uh, They'll have a grade for
you know, the health inspection. You guys have all seen this,

(01:16:28):
right Like music, I know you've seen it. Um ramos
you as well buyer when you walk in and the
only acceptable grade is an A. Like if you walk in,
you know there's like a B and I don't even
know what a beat consists of? Like was there one
cockroach like you just gotta be here? There was there one?

(01:16:48):
Like I I can't think that you walk in and
there's a B and you're like, oh yeah, oh eat here,
that's cool. If you walk in there today, you're like,
all right, I'm good, I will only eat it place
that is an absolute A. And that's what the NBA
had in front of it right like here they are.
They put a hundred fifty million dollars. They cleared out

(01:17:09):
this resort, these resorts and this facility to have the
NBA Bubble in Orlando. The only appropriate grade was an
A and they got an A plus at A three
or four. Six players tested in the NBA no positive
test yesterday in the Bubble in Orlando. Now the question
becomes out long before they stop testing, right like, let's

(01:17:30):
just not deest Lebron because we have important basketball to
be played fourteen days before the conference finals. Would that
be it that too much to ask? Now? It doesn't
mean that there won't be guys that test positive, and
by the way, that some of these players had tested
prov positive previously. But it does point to the idea
that this can be done. This can be accomplished without

(01:17:54):
any question. We can do it now. The NBA has
more resources than a high school league. The NBA has
more resources than most small colleges. But the the NBA's resources,
like I would say per team, it's not crazy to

(01:18:17):
believe that colleges can do this as well basketball and football.
Why because they have the resources. They have the ability
to have kids live, you know, separate from the rest
of the student body. They have their own training rooms,
their own weightlifting, their own gyms, their own locker rooms.
They can space kids out, they can treat them if
they get if they need to be quarantined. If the

(01:18:39):
NBA can do it, pretty much anybody can. Now, before
we start doing victory laps, we have yet to play
a real game, and these tests will continue, and at
some point somebody will come in and somebody will get infected.
That seems to be a fact. But for now, as
we have told you, you are safer in the bubble

(01:19:02):
then you are at home. Don't believe me. Plenty of
these guys test de positive before they went there. Now
they've been there. Nobody tested this test positive. I mean,
Joe Clad said the exact same thing last hour. You
know what this reminds me of. This reminds me of
the seat belt discussion. When I was a kid, I'd

(01:19:23):
ask music, your entire life, you've had to put on
a seatbelt, right, Yeah, It's it's always been a very
common mandatory practice. Well, it wasn't always in your lifetime,
That's what I meant. Yes, in my lifetime, it's always
been a mandatory thing. Okay, So the California seatbelt law, Man,

(01:19:44):
I'm trying to think when it when it passed? Um,
do you remember John Ramos when it passed? I remember,
I would say the eight maybe the late seventies, early eighties,
because I rememberes six was. It took effect January one.

(01:20:05):
It required both drivers and passengers to wear seat belts
when they rode in a vehicle. That really happened. And
what's interesting about it was the pushback. The pushback was, hey,
what if you drive and your car gets submerged in water?
Do you remember that car gets submerged in water? The

(01:20:29):
first seat belt law, um, in terms of mandatory c
Bello was as primary enforcement was Wisconsin. In I believe, oh, no,
excuse me, everyone there there's a couple of there's a
bunch of eighties six is. So it wasn't until I
was ten years old. And even then, you know, I'm
new New York had one that was a little bit earlier.

(01:20:49):
In North Carolina had one. Even then, there were some
states that were slow to come around. You know when
Oregon came around? Uh was when Nebraska came around? Right?
Mississippi was ninety four, Maine was ninety five. Like, this
is crazy. Not that long ago you did not have

(01:21:10):
to wear a seatbelt. But the big argument or the
pushback was a, well, if I'm submerged in water, it
might be really hard to get the seatbelt off and
I might not be able to get out that door alright,
chap a quick in other words. But what people who

(01:21:30):
have you know, actual working brain cells, have come to
realize is if you're in a car that goes off
a bridge and lands in the water and you don't
have a seatbelt on, you've probably been thrown against the
windshield anyway, knocked unconscious, and it will be really hard
for you to get the door open, to even get
out anyway. Whereas if you're in a seat belt and

(01:21:51):
something happens to you, then you'll have all your faculties
or more more of your faculties, and you'll be able
to get out of the car more likely, even if
you're submerged in water, which is where we are with
the with the COVID testing. I understand if everybody was
in a bubble at home, you'll be safer at home.
But we're not doing We're not staying at home anymore.

(01:22:13):
We may go back to some form of it, but
we're not staying at home. We haven't been staying at
home for the last two months or so. Everybody's been
out and about. You gotta wear a seatbelt, and the
seat belt is going to college campus. The seat belt
is you know, reporting. You know, the baseball and football
models are really interesting because those guys go home at night.

(01:22:36):
But now it comes about being a grown up, right,
you're being a grown up. You got to make sure
that nobody else, Sorry, if your kids or family has
to quarantine, either they do or you gotta live by
yourself for the season. Six players tested in the NBA
no positive test yesterday. If that doesn't tell you that
you can have sports, that you can do it, then

(01:22:57):
nothing else will. It can be done, And it doesn't
make the NBA bubble perfect. It won't necessarily make the
play perfect, but it's a lot better than not having
it at all. And I would suspect that the NFL
will do quite well as well. And it's one of
the reasons that the NFL was smart to kind of

(01:23:18):
lay out in terms of what do we really want
our policies and procedures to be. Let's see how the
NBA handles it. Let's see how Major League Baseball handles
Let's see how NBA handles it. When somebody does test
test positive, which eventually will happen, what, what's the cause?
Did you welcome somebody in? Was that your kids? Was
it your wife? Was it something that they were they

(01:23:40):
were cleared of and then it was it was sad
dormant before they got there. Is it some sort of vendor?
What is it? How did you get it? And they
can track it because you only got thirty six players
in that bubble. But if that's not a sign of optimism,
and then you have the whole idea, which I've been
a fighter for college sports for a long time, but

(01:24:03):
this idea that that players aren't compensated, aren't taking care
of that there's somehow kind of used and abused. This
is if if you ask these NFL players or NBA players,
they'll tell you this is just like college, where everything
they need is at their fingertips. The only difference is
when you're in Orlando in this bubble they'll have to
come out of pocket for food as opposed to when

(01:24:23):
they're on campus, they will not. All right, Coming up next,
should we give credit for to Lebron for turning around
an organization for winning the West? Does that go into
the calculation of is he the NBA's m v P.

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was listening to Lebron James. You know they have these
virtual press conferences. This was Lebron talking about the m
v P race and playing in the Western Conference. As
far as the MVP race, I think, uh, you know,
show what I'm capable of doing, not only individually but

(01:25:26):
from a team's perspectively as being number one in the West.
There was a lot of conversation about Lebron can do
those days in the East, but if he ever came
to the West, what can you do? Uh? So you
know I heard all of that. To be able to
have our team at the top of the Western Conference
and and playing the way that we were playing at
that time, and the way I was playing, you know,
that's a that's definitely a good film. I I definitely
I believe him. I agree with him in regards to

(01:25:50):
um how well he was playing and some of the
narrative of the West. The problem with what Lebron is
saying as far as the West is this when when
people said that wouldn't have happened in the East. In
the what happened the West, he wouldn't been able to
go to the finals eight consecutive times, right, It's just
the likelihood of that happening is they were so much

(01:26:11):
better than everybody else in in the East. It would
have been a massive, massive upset. Matter of fact, when
whether it's Boston or the Pacers pushed them to the limit,
or even the Raptors would they never really struggle with
I think they went to six with once like that
was a that was a surprise, and by the time

(01:26:31):
the Raptors got Kawhi Leonard, he was gone. By the time,
you know, the Celtics kind of figured out who they were.
He was, he was gone. By the time the Sixers
kind of came of age, he was gone. So I
actually think that both of these things can be true.
He can be the m v P and and the

(01:26:53):
West can be really difficult. But it wasn't that was
People weren't saying, oh, hey, you know the m v P.
You know the Lebron. He wouldn't have ever been able
to get to the finals in the in the West.
That's not what they said. He wouldn't have been able
to get to the finals eight consecutive years. And let's
also remember that this year's success coincides with the Warriors

(01:27:16):
essentially taking the year off. The Warriors took the year off,
the Rockets kind of completely changed their roster, ad made
the year after changing their roster in the off season,
and the Clippers didn't really go for it in the
regular season. Again, doesn't take away from what they were doing,
but it is now. I would say, I think Lebron

(01:27:39):
is the m v P. And here's my argument. Okay,
it doesn't mean that he's the best offensive player. He
doesn't mean he's the best defensive player, and he might
not be the best basketball player. But with Lebron there's
a lot more too. It's not just the pressure of
being Lebron. It's you go back to last year this
time and they had, uh, you know, Magic Johnson had

(01:28:01):
walked out in the team. They made the trade for
Anthony Davis, which everyone seemed to concur that they came
man have given up too much for Anthony Davis. And
by the way, Anthony Davis is gonna be a free
agent at the end of this year. Yeah, questions about well,
you have to hire Tyler or you hire Frank Vogel.
That will never work. And Jason Kidd as a coach
assistant coach, he'll just backstaff Frank Fogo to death. He'll

(01:28:21):
be head coach by mid season. Do you remember that thing?
Did that happen? The answer is now. And then there's Lebron,
who came back from his first major injury, some sort
of torn growing muscle, and last year when he came back,
he wasn't great. He's not the best defensive player, but
he's incredible defensive leader. He's not the best offensive player,
but He's an incredible offensive leader and the team is

(01:28:42):
better because of it. And if you factor in that
after last year's disappointing season, they're still able. They're able
to be the number one seed in the West. I
don't know how you couldn't understand his personal value. As
long as you're okay, like I am, putting some of
the blame a good portion the blame of last year
on the on I'm okay pointing out that he's the

(01:29:02):
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listen live byer Went. When you heard there was no
likely giving no preseason games, what was your reaction. I
I thought that they should have one. I I didn't

(01:29:23):
think that two was necessary, But I do think for
for everyone involved, and this isn't just players or coaches,
but it's stadium workers, that I think that they should
just have one for a dry run. And if you
didn't want star players, that's fine, they wouldn't have to
show up to the stadium. But I think that you
would need to just have to figure out a way

(01:29:45):
to have one game to maybe figure out stuff just
logistically all around. M Okay, I think this is what
a lot of businesses are gonna do, which is, hey,
what do we have of that we lose money on.
We're gonna lose money on that we don't need. Now, Normally,

(01:30:06):
the preseason games you make money on it, right, because
it's part of pre season tickets. You have vendors, you
have parking. You know, if you want to buy season tickets,
you gotta buy ten games, not eight. But since they
can't make people do that and they won't have people
in the stands, it's just a money loser. I think
the NFL NFL offered this up because to the NFL
p A, because like, look, we're gonna lose massive amounts

(01:30:27):
of money on this thing. Let's just cut that off.
Because if you lose money, that hurts everybody's bottom line everybody.
And and yes, I think it will hurt the product
on the field, But does anybody really care about the
product on the field as much as the Almighty dollar music?
Do you think it's a good thing that they're not
gonna have preseason games? No? I I mostly agree with

(01:30:50):
dan Um in the sense that I thought they should
have had at least one. I didn't think two. Is
that bad of an idea. I just wonder as much
as we saw in Peter King's article and all of
the protocols and all of the different sort of safeguards
that they're trying to put in place in Minnesota and
across training camps in the NFL, without getting one game

(01:31:14):
underneath their belt, it sort of feels like a you're
putting yourself in a situation to perhaps be very shocked
by the result of game one of the regular season,
and not even just by quality of play. Like you
talked about this with getting kids on college campus um
for voluntary practices, like get them on campus. It's not

(01:31:38):
sort of to be like make them guinea pigs, but
we know at some point a positive test is gonna
pop up. So if you get them on campus, you
see what happens, then you can sort of react and
go from there. Now it's a let's just start the
regular season and if there's an outbreak or if we
see how transmittable it is, and you know, actually playing
a game against opponents where there is zero social distance,

(01:32:00):
saying now it's like by week three, you could be like, Okay,
the season is done, we have to shut it down
because we've had a massive outbreak leading into the week
one without ever playing any games. Yeah, I I just
think I think this is one of those deals where
they are going to keep learning from other other sports
leagues and what they're doing and trying to implement watching baseball,
because Baseball, in terms of stadium and guys going home, uh,

(01:32:22):
is already gonna have, you know, some of their season done.
But I think the biggest thing is this just it's
a money loser, and they're like, let's get rid of it.
Then nobody really likes it. It's a money loser. The
only thing it does is it gets guys in a
little bit of a little bit of football shape. But
we'll figure it out as we go. That's my that's
my read on it. I thought earlier when you were

(01:32:43):
talking with Eric Mangini, it was interesting how we we
always like the perspective on certain things can take a
wild swing. It's gone from like, oh wow, we're excited
that maybe NFL could be back to what's the point
of NFL preseason anymore? Like it just very quickly became
NFL preseason happens to be the most irrelevant thing in

(01:33:05):
all of sports, instead of understanding that there's at least
some value there for different people obviously, like Okay, Aaron Rodgers,
who cares as you know what, what does he need
to play in the NFL preseason game for? But for
of the rest of the NFL there is some real
value there, whether it's players trying to make a roster,

(01:33:25):
a coaching staff, or any number of things. Did you
guys see this story? Um? I I, by the way,
I agree with you. I mean we do this thing
to react like you don't need any your pro you
don't need any practice, like when did that happen? Let
me know when that happened? And that did we We
also offer up this, well, you know, you could just
get hurt, like how many guys have gotten hurt in

(01:33:47):
the preseason game. How many legit dudes have gotten hurt
in preseason game and it kept them out for any
portion of or an entire season and change their career.
I believe you can count on one hand you've had
guys get hurt. A lot of times. Guys get hurting
non contact thing, right, Jordy Nelson when he went down
with the with the Packers, it was just a non
contact deal. Julian Edelman too, right, planting pop. So I'm

(01:34:14):
with you. I think everybody's better when they have practice.
Everybody is better when they have practice. You run through things.
But this year it's it's an easier excuse for NFL
owners to make because they would just hembridge lots and
those stadiums are really expensive to fire up. And like
you said, if you're gonna have buyers said like, you
don't even have to have your stars come. Yeah, but

(01:34:35):
that means you're gonna have to expand the roster for
the for the game. And so now you have to
pay those guys. Maybe it's a small amount, but you
still have to pay them something they weren't making anyway
to come play and get their brains beat in and
then hope to make the team. Well, rams haven't played
their starters in a couple of preseasons. True, okay, true,
but remember this is I'm talking. Those are the days

(01:34:57):
when you were making money on your games. Now you're
not making money your games. The they changed last year
when you could you just went from nine to fifty three.
But get teams are gonna bring in ninety guys. Anymore,
what's the point. We're not having training camp, We're not
really having all these competitions. We're not gonna just still
got stash guys away for ninety you know, ninety players.

(01:35:20):
I actually think that the game, the the sixty minutes
of game time, is maybe the least important reason of
having the game. I'm just curious about how everything else
works out, How do sidelines work out, how do you know,
just of of that sort of thing, and that's just
gonna fly by the seat of their pants and all right,

(01:35:40):
this is how it goes. And if they're you're talking
about how close guys sit approximating just yeah, just of
just of anything. I mean, the baseball games that we're watching,
you know right now, are they for you know, just
to try to get guys in the swing of things.
But I also think we're seeing on how things are
going to operate, how Baseball may need to adjust to things,
maybe with the NBA as well. I just think that

(01:36:02):
just to have one game, I don't think. Oh, I
I agree, But I also think the NFL owners sitting
there they also you know, yesterday's report also coincided with
you know, how much money they're gonna lose, Like, well,
you're gonna lose how much? How do we lose less money? Well,
don't have a preseason game where nobody's there and you
have to pay forty additional players to suit up because
your starters don't want to play the whole game. It's like,

(01:36:25):
all right, well let's just cut that out. And the
players are like it too. Let's just at an expense,
and you don't make up for it with the local
TV broadcast. You just don't. I'm not saying it doesn't
have value, and I actually agree with you guys on
many points, But I also I don't know the financials
of just how much you're gonna lose by opening up
a stadium. I would I would guess substantial, substantial amount.

(01:36:48):
And I am a pro. I like, I'm I'm with you, Ryan,
I understand. Hey, remember when remember when the Hall of
Fame WE game would come on. It would always be
like really really early in August, like next weekend, almost July,
like wow for balls, but it made you feel, it
fired you up for football. We won't have that, Like
I remember we did this. I think it might have

(01:37:08):
been the first right leading into the first NFL season
you had done since you came over here to Fox,
and we legitimately had to do a topic about like,
let's make sure we don't get excited about Blame Gabbert
in the preseason, because like we watched the game and
Blame Gabbert went like eight for ten and like a touchdown.

(01:37:28):
I think he was still on like the Cardinals at
the time or something like that. And it's like people
get so excited about the return of football that you
forget like, oh, yeah, this is preseason all of like
the guys on the field right now aren't going to
even be on active rosters. We can't get so caught
up and being excited about the sport being back that
we think these quarterbacks are better than they actually are.

(01:37:51):
It's a good point. It's a very very very good point. Um. Alright,
so lately, you know, which makes those first week's games
maybe even more interesting. Al Right, first week's games Houston
at Kansas City. Let me think about that game, Miami,
New England. If you don't have you don't have any

(01:38:13):
training camp games, you don't have any exhibition games. Are
you gonna start Cam Newton? That one? Fascinating Green Bay
Minnesota in Minnesota, Cleveland, Baltimore. Remember Cleveland beat Baltimore last year,
and Cleveland brings most everybody back, seems to fix their
offensive line, gave out some new contracts, added Austin Hooper,

(01:38:36):
so Arizona San Francisco is a good one. And then
Dallas Rams, and then the Monday night games are Pittsburgh
against the Giants. We have no idea how if if
Big Ben's armor hold up, and Tennessee Denver, which is
a kind of curiously scheduled game, curiously scheduled game. I
saw this story and I thought it was like, this

(01:38:57):
is the perfect embodiment of the difference, the difference in
players now maybe than players twenty years ago. You guys
know who Jim Boylan is, right, He's head coach Chicago Bulls.
So he's obviously gotten criticized many times over. But they
have a rookie named Daniel Gafford, kids from Arkansas. He

(01:39:20):
was on six seven the score, which is in Chicago.
He said, I'm gonna answer the question, but I'm not
gonna but not going to read it read it out.
As a matter of fact, I will read it out.
Do you like Jim Boylan? He I I don't like
him a lot, but he's okay, got some things he
can work on, some things he can get better as
a person as a coach. I'm not gonna hate on him.

(01:39:42):
I'm not gonna hate on the man that that is
the opposite of glowing praise for your coach. Can you
mate like Daniel Gafford is not He's not a top
five or six dude on their roster. He's got a
lot to work on as a man and as a coach.
Can you Can you imagine saying that out loud, nonetheless

(01:40:05):
on a radio station in Chicago. And I'm the type
of guy that I believe that that that just didn't
happen years ago, even if the guy was a complete idiot,
which I don't thin boilings and I think he knows
how to coach. I don't know how his message works
in the NBA. He has done some really weird things,
but you know, the guy is an excellent, excellent basketball coach.

(01:40:27):
Can you imagine saying that to your parents? You imagine
saying that at a restaurant to a waiter. Instead you're
saying it to a to your coach. Yankes, yikes? All right,
coming up next, how much money did each team in
the NFL make last season. The details are in we'll
share them in the next Be sure to catch the

(01:40:50):
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio a app. Let's get to the press,
Dan by right, what he got? Oh, Dan's doing some
work there. We'll get to Dan in a second. Get
to Dan. I'm here, No, I'm totally ready. John Romos

(01:41:13):
was doing John, what happened there? What's the what's the different?
So I was looking at something entirely Oh okay, No,
I was ready to go. John's the one who has
the power to turn me on or off. The Green
Bay Packers made seventy point three million dollars last fiscal year,
according to numbers announced today. President Mark Murphy says the

(01:41:35):
team received two hundred and ninety six million dollars from
national revenues. Doug, that's what each NFL team would receive,
so totally more than nine billion dollars. Andrew Brandt with
the tweet, saying that that's obviously before any local revenue
or any seat was sold at any of the stadiums,
but Mark Murphy did say, speaking of seats, if fans

(01:41:56):
were expected to attend games this fall, they likely will
keep attending at ten to twelve thousand per game, ten
to twelve thousand per game. How do you get how
do you decide who gets to go who doesn't get
to go? I don't know. And I did see a tweet.
Adam Kaplan, who joins us here on Fox Sports Radios
our NFL insider uh retweeted a tweet that the Packers

(01:42:18):
have asked fans to opt in or opt out. And
I don't know. The Packers aren't alone, but the Packers
are notorious for having an extremely long waiting list for
season tickets. So I don't know anybody h that would
be willing to drop out of the opt out of
the season. I'm sure that they're all of saying, yeah,
we want to go, Yeah, Um would you go? Um?

(01:42:43):
I would? I would want to see, just you know,
what the protocols are. But you know, I've kind of
been to the to the point of I've been caught
in between of do I want to go or will
I go if they let me want to go? And
I'm kind of in between there because again I've got
I don't know what's gonna happen with the Masters in November,
you know, And I've mentioned this to you before, but

(01:43:05):
if they allow fans and they allow me to be
on the grounds, it's something that I would like to attend.
So yeah, I mean, I've always want to go to Lamba.
I've never been. I just don't know if I want
to go when there's when there's sure thousand people there, right, yeah,
and there would be like the old days about the
four is Greg days there. Well. Their ticket package is
also unique because it's you don't get all ten games

(01:43:27):
when you're a season ticket older. They have a green
package in a gold package because remember back in the
day they used to play games in Milwaukee. Well, when
they stopped doing that, they allowed a lot of the
Milwaukee season ticket holders to have their own piece, so
they would get two games, while the rest of the
um fans would buy a separate package with seven games

(01:43:47):
a year. So you've even got you know, a bunch
of a bunch more season ticket olders than maybe any
other team would because you have two season ticket packages.
Kind of crazy. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't think of
it that way. That's a really interesting point. Yeah, because
because they they split them up, so you're gonna have
a lot more upset. Yeah, it's like the second game
of the year is always what they call the Milwaukee Game.

(01:44:08):
I know because my family used to used to play. Yeah,
my family, uh cousins have season tickets. They don't have
that package. They have the other package, which I think
is the green package in the Milwaukee is the gold package.
But but yeah, so there's there's gonna be questions. I
will say this as a viewer though, especially if you're
having the first eight rows tarped off, you're not really
gonna be You're not really gonna notice that there's only

(01:44:32):
ten to twelve thousand fans there except on camera shots
that show the empty stage. I talked about this yesterday
on cow when I host a Cowherd show, Like I
like golf better, I just do do do I miss
a little bit of the right and then then the
and then the tiger roars like yeah, but there's so
many knuckleheads. It's gonna be so upset those guys to
be like, you know, I just you you get miked up.

(01:44:56):
It's it's it's more a more pure look at the
sport and in baseball. Granted Wrigley on Sunday was a
little different without people, but I don't know. And watched
the A's play yesterday, it just looked like an as game.
Uh Espro reports that the NFL will likely allow players
to wear decals on the back of their helmets with
the name or initials of a person who are victims

(01:45:17):
of police violence or systemic racism. Wait, the name of
people who are victors of systemic racisms. So you could
have George Floyd or g F on your helmet, um
stick of that? Are we allowed to have any? I mean,
let's not well I do I will say this and
like when when where do you draw the line? Right? Like,

(01:45:39):
there's there have been police there's police officers in in
Tulsa who walked up on a car got shot. Like
are we allowed to put their initials on there? I don't,
I don't know. Are you allowed to? There was six
I've said this last week. There were six children shot
across the country, Black kids shot across the country, completely
innocent little kids. One at that Wendy's that was burned

(01:46:00):
to the ground because of one of the shootings, and um,
you know, you should be able to put their their
name on it obviously, Brianna Taylor. I don't know if
you saw Marcus Smart today, every question he answered, he's
he said, justice for Brianna Taylor. So I mean there's
a name you can obviously put on inside of Well,
I do think that would you consider the NFL. And
the NFL has eased up on their cleats for a cause,

(01:46:24):
But five years ago, remember you couldn't even do you
couldn't even wear, you know, shoes for for a charity,
you know, for childhood cancer. Like the NFL wouldn't do that.
Then then they tried to figure out away because um,
you know where, all right, how's the way that we
can frame this? And I guess also be a positive

(01:46:44):
for the league, so to do the cleats for a cause.
But I do think that this shows a bit of change.
Michael Bennett, that's a lot of change. That's a great point.
You made a lot of change. Veteran defensive I'm in,
Michael Bennett retiring after eleven seasons, so I'm going to
three Pro Bowls and win a Super Bowl in Seattle. Yeah,
And and I mean like Michael Bens the guy, he's
a very interesting guy. He's got a little he and

(01:47:05):
his brother got a little got a little p I
t a little paint the ass in him. Um. I mean,
he claims to be retiring because of the lack of
hiring of black coaches, which is it's but he's not
going into coaching himself, so that's an odd one. You know,
He's a guy that has a lot of other assets
to bring to this world other than football. I'm not

(01:47:25):
sure if you love playing football, but he's he's most famous,
I would say for wearing those tiny little shoulder pats
and being really good at his job. Oklahoma State running
back Cuba Hubbard says he's deleting his social media accounts,
saying they have become a quote playground for hate end quote.
Hubbard has spoken up about social injustice, and then yesterday

(01:47:45):
called for Oklahoma County DA David Praytor to resign because
Hubbard felt Prator quote has overstepped his position by allowing
police brutality and excessive force to continue against demonstrators exercising
the First Amendment in Oklahoma City. Well, I mean, here's
the thing for Chuba, Like I love Chuba Hubbard. Okay, um,

(01:48:06):
if you're going to be a spokesperson, and I do.
I think I do. I I like or accept the
hate on social media like Twitter, like no, it's gross one,
it's your account, or you can have somebody else go
through it. Just block people or mute people, like you're
allowed to do that. That that's kind of part of
the It's like, Okay, I want to be outspoken, but
I don't want any sort of backlash for being outspoken,

(01:48:28):
Like that's not actually the way it works. I do.
I do. I wish it was like, oh, you know,
it's a really interesting point, but that's the promised social
media as everybody can, even idiots canna have their own opinion.
And how you handle that. I I think it's a
bit of a mistake for you. Look, he's a marvelous
football player. I know people there and they are like, man,
he's a great kid. These are good dudes. And I

(01:48:48):
don't think he had any ill intent with whatever he
said about the d A. But but he doesn't have
to apologize, no reason to walk it back. There obviously
are some crazy see people in every state, and in
the state of Oklahoma. I just think it's how you
handle it and the easiest way is just to black
people or mute him. News from the NBA Doug Sportico

(01:49:10):
the first with this that Timberwolves owner Glenn Taylor is
looking to sell the franchise and has received multiple offers
for the team now. That report says a deal could
be completed within the next month. The Athletic then reported,
which was followed up by confirmation from Kevin Garnett, that
the former Timberwolves star is a part of a group
that has expressed interest in purchasing the franchise. He bought

(01:49:32):
a Taylor bought it for eighty eight million dollars in
the mid nineties. Forbes says the team is worth one
point three eight billion dollars in Taylor is seeking at
least one point two billion for the team. Now, Garnett
lost a ton of money. I mean he's he is
not Yeah, I think he I don't know. I mean
like he might be a part of it. And he's
one of the ones that called on Glenn Taylor just

(01:49:54):
to sell. Uh. They have a little you know, the
issue there is they have at least where they have
to stay in men A. It I think through two
thousand thirty two. But Kevin Garnette law student accounting over
seventy lost seventy seven million dollars to a wealth management
guy who that would hurt so um, you know, just

(01:50:17):
just because he's a big name. Like, let's see who
buys them. That will be fascinating to see who buys them.
And I would guess that whatever they're worth, it'll go
for substantially more. But then, and you know they I
think they fixed up that arena. Didn't they fix up
the Target Center a couple of years ago? Yeah, we
went to it, right music and I went and saw
the Bucks and Timberwolves when we were there for the
Super Bowl? So and was it was it totally redone? Yeah?

(01:50:40):
They had upgraded it. It's you know, I mean it's
it was nice. You know, it was nicer, but it's
not like what it's not like what they did in
in Milwaukee with a brand arena. No, No, right, Ryan,
what don't you say like it was nice? It's a
good way too. Yeah, it was fine. I mean, you know,
even the Staples Center isn't some brand new place, but

(01:51:03):
it seemed to be not even up to that. Yeah.
And and honestly, and I've been in a Minnesota wild
game when you go to the XL Energy Center with
a wild play in St. Paul. That's yeah, it's like
a hundred times bedder. Yeah. So so here's what you're
gonna have to do. So you're gonna have to put
in So they put a hundred forty million in the
renovation in two thousand and fifteen, that's five years ago,
and that's you know, basically a new scoreboard, loading bays,

(01:51:26):
some of the other stuff. So you're probably gonna have
to build a new arena. It's gotta be in Minneapolis,
gotta be downtown. Um. So part of the part of
the buying it is you're gonna have to spend a
billion and a half to buy it and then five
million or sell on a new arena. Who um, we'll
see who has the cash that these these things do

(01:51:47):
make money eventually when they're sold, but there's a lot
of there's a lot of check writing before they make
that money. By the way, it's total side note, My
wife and I during quarantine did watch Uncut Gems Good
Adam Sandler. She liked it more than I did, and
Kevin Garnett was in it. I thought it was I
thought it was okay. I didn't think that it was.
What didn't you like about it? Um? I think that

(01:52:09):
so many people were, you know, like taken aback by
Adam Sandler being so dark, But it was just, I
don't know, it just seemed like any mob movie there,
you know, or sort of underground movie go ahead and
RTE music. I just watched that like a week ago,
and I'm totally with you this whole idea that it
was like, it felt like it was way more beloved

(01:52:31):
in the media. Maybe because it had Kevin Garnett in it.
I don't know, but I thought it was fine. But
I don't know Ramos did it any time in the movie.
Did he go like that? I don't think so. I
was that was that your Adam Sandler? All right? That's
you know, he was dark in Funny People as well.

(01:52:52):
That was pretty good. Yeah, this was, I mean it
was it was a lot of yelling, a lot of
yelling and people talking at the same time. I felt like, yeah,
that's not great. Yeah. Finally, the NBA will hold the
voting for the league's awards through July. The award winners
will be announced during the NBA playoffs, kind of like
they used to before. They decided to have an award show. Yeah,

(01:53:14):
I like that. I mean, I think, how does the
Major League Baseball do that? Why do they wait so
long to the off season with them? I don't get that.
Don't get it. Not suppressed it out there and the press. Alright,
so we're all on track right now with the NBA,
and the NBA suddenly becomes a leader, and it it
does become a gay gottle if you are wrong. My
my thing against the bubble was really simple. I thought

(01:53:36):
all that made sense. But the rest of the world
was opening up, and the rest of the world may
still open up, and I just think it'd be really
hard to maintain the normal level of competitiveness when you're
staying in a hotel for a couple months. But I
reserve the right to be wrong. And and with everybody
testing negative towards COVID nineteen, that's the goal in that
becomes the gold standard. So we'll see if everybody falls in.
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