Lamar Jackson is not the best player in the NFL & the return of the NBA!

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to the restart of the NBA, but let me let
me start with this top hundred list. Boom, what up America,

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Doug got Leave Show, Fox Sports Radio. Yes, who's back? No,
not just me? Basketball? That's who Knock Knock? Who's there? NBA? NBA? Who?
I don't know. I didn't really think that far into it,
but um, the term regress to the mean is exactly

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what we're going to do in the NBA. We'll talk
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Upcoming in twenty five minutes and one hour, Brandon Weeden
will join us. I'll ask him about the topic of
the day, which is also the topic to your So
they have that top hundred list of NFL players. Are

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you familiar with the top hundred list of NFL player? Yeah,
it's fine. I mean, like, look, you know, lists in general,
listen general are hard, but um, the top five players
in the NFL as voted on by the players themselves.
This is great. Lamar Jackson one, Russell Wilson to Aaron

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Donald three, Patrick Mahomes four, and Michael Thomas five. So
what what I've been told is I'm a Lamar Jackson hater.
And that's okay, Um, what I am in terms of
Lamar Jackson and he played great last year and and
he won the m v P with the best team,
and they played great football before they're beating in the playoffs.

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And I'm not somebody who's gonna sit here and go, hey,
you know, playoff games, you gotta dominate those, you don't.
You just kind of have to survive, all right. But
playoff games not just what the final score is, but
how do you play are a great sense of where

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you actually are. That's where the level of competition spikes.
They were the one seed this year, the one seed
at home against the prohibitive underdog, and they get beaten
fairly handily, right, Um? And and could I say there
oh and two in the playoffs because they lost at
home to another underdog wild card team last year in

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the l A Chargers. Sure, but I don't believe that's
what the poll is about. I'm not gonna hold two
years ago is playoff game against the Chargers where a
guy who had only started half the season was exposed
and they hadn't yet fit tailored the offense in terms
of personnel to exactly what they wanted to do. Some
of that caught teams by surprise, not the charges they

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played twice, but some of it did. But some of it, like,
let's just be fair, it was his first season starting,
this is his second. He was the m v P
the league. He played poorly. They got down and as
is the case generally with the a in which they
play football, they're not a team that's gonna come back
from big margins. Lamar Jackson in those two playoff games
only completion percentage three TVs, all of them in the

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second half, and late went down four fumbles. I don't know, though,
how you could possibly put anybody other than Pat Mahomes
is number one. Now, look, the players, I'm sure are
sitting there going like, look, this dude's a freak. He's
the fastest dude. But we've ever tried to tackle, and
their offense is so different, so unique, it's fun. It

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catches people off guard. That dude's throwing lasers here, there, everywhere.
You got us backpedaling like there's a there's a respect
for the Ravens and respect for Lamar Jackson that I
get but we're doing this thing again. Two thousand sixteen,
Cam Newton was voted number one in the same pole.
His team went fifteen one and they lost in the
Super Bowl. But what did we see in that super Bowl?

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I mean, even in the playoffs he didn't play great,
and the Super Bowl he was atrocious, atrocious, and it
showed his limitations. And Cam Newton's season, I don't believe
they played a team in the regular season that had
an above five record. That's crazy, right, soft schedule. Their
defense was great, the running game was great, they played downhill.

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There's a lot of similarities to how Baltimore is playing
and what Cam Newton was able to do, only Baltimore
has done it even more so. And where Cam Newton
is bigger, faster, stronger, Lamar Jackson's just quicker, I mean
just it's almost unhittable at times until you get to
the playoffs when you have to come from behind. I mean, like, look,
this is a joke because if we're just saying, is

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Lamar Jackson great and did he play great last year?
And would common sense tell you that with more experience
and without an injury, he gets better? Sure, that's that's
a reasonable thing. But those same things apply to Pat Mahomes,
who's only in his third year right or entering his fourth,

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his third year as a starter, and unlike Lamar Jackson,
he has won those playoff games. And look, he wasn't
great in the Super Bowl until he needed to be.
He wasn't great early against the Houston Texans until he
needed to be. I mean, look, if if not for
one off side's called, he could have been in two

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Super Bowls already. So I'm I'm not gonna sit here
and tell you that two years ago is playoff game
is the determining factor, but it is a factor. It
is a trend in that Lamar Jackson gets behind against
kanci chiaston regular season, they can't come back. Against the
playoff teams, they can't come back. Pat Mahomes gets behind

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twenty four nothing to the Houston text there behind in
every game in the playoffs, and they came back in
one obviously every game in the playoffs. If that he
can make every throw, he can run, he's young. Yes,
if you want to hold against him that his knee
popped out, Okay, who's more going to get hurt based
upon the way in which they play it's Lamar Jackson.

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But we're doing that thing that that players are doing
what they accuse media members are doing or fans of doing,
which is being prone to hyperbole and and and prisoners
of the moment. He the cover of madness, perfect, perfect
because he's a video game like, he does stuff that
you can only do in a video game. But in

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the NFL, if you said, who are you starting a
team with? One guy? To start a team with right now?
And he's not the first, he's not the second quarterback
you take, and in all honesty, I think most people
would take Aaron Rodgers third. Now, can you say he
maybe has fifteen more years left? Maybe, But that's never
happened with a running quarterback ever, It's never happened. You know.

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It's like when you know, people try to convince us
when Michael Jordan was in the league that he wasn't
the best in the league. You know, it's Charles Barkley,
it's Karl Malone. This guys you when the NP not
like and then you get to the playoffs and the
cream rises to the top, which, by the way, was
my argument for why Kevin Durant was the best player,
which because we saw him on the same field against
each other. We saw Lamar and Pat Mahomes against each

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other the same field in kan City. Wasn't close. We've
seen them in similar playoff games. It wasn't close, granted,
not against each other. So I'm not gonna sit here.
And my thing with Lamar Jackson is I do believe
that because one of the reasons they're so successful is
he's tremendous. And Lamar Jackson doesn't listen to the haters

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and say you're wrong. He listens to the haters of
the guys whore the analysts that point out the negatives,
and he tries to work on the things that he
needs to get better at it. He just does. And
the Ravens put him in situations and positions where he
can succeed like okay, So so that part makes him
special and he has special talent, but there are limitations

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to what he can do. He still can be wildly
inaccurate for reasons. I mean, I guess it's footwork and
sometimes it's timing. I don't know. But underneath throws and
you know, little throws the deep ball. He throws an
incredible deep ball, but outside the numbers and some of
that underneath stuff, you know, in cuts he's unbelievably he
just throws a laser. But we've seen this style of

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quarterback get banged up, get hurt, and then have to
be more of a thrower, and that's when they get
exposed as always haven't been able to run out of trouble.
Russell Wilson, for example, is a guy who did run
out of trouble, does some, but has has evolved into
the ultimate pocket guy who has great awareness, great athleticism,

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but can can always keep his eyes downfield and throw
the football. That's where you're going to be successful over
a longer period of time. But maybe next season he
proves that he has continued to evolve and continue to
get better. But right now, like Pat Mahomes or Lamar Jackson,
who you're taken Russell Wilson or Lamar Jackson? Are you

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taking Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson? Who are you taking?
Come on, man, come on man. And this is not
a hater. This is a realist guy. You know, had
moments where he was great. His offense team was great.
I did point out early in the year they got
it going against some of the bad teams. But look,

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Lamar Jackson was and deserved to be the m v P.
But teams are going to adjust in terms of not
just style, but personnel and what they load up on,
and he's gonna be forced to continue to improve and evolve.
Pat Mahomes doesn't have to continue to evolve. Russell Wilson
doesn't have to continue to evolve. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have
to continue to involve. They're already there. That's right. The

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NBA is officially back, um, and why I expect regression
to the mean or towards the mean? Which is it?
We'll discuss next. Be sure to catch the live edition
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Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio a app. So tonight the NBA gets back in.

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We got a lot of cool stuff going on. I
saw Calherd and Nick right are doing an I G
Live halftime after the game. That's cool, Um, think about
charging on that deal and then I'll have an all
ball pot. I think we'll we'll record it's neither tomorrow,
maybe maybe a little bit of both, and try and

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get some reaction. Two Lakers Clippers and then the the
earlier game is Jazz Pelicans, which is the the Zion
Williamson game obviously, right, Like, I'm so happy he's back
and he's playing, and it makes it more interesting. And
but I do think that once we get to having
the NBA and it's gonna be interesting because the Clippers

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don't have their full roster. And I know that you
don't buy a ticket to see Patrick Beverley play, or
a ticket to see Montras Harrow play, or a ticket
to see Lou Williams play. But if the Clippers win
a championship, they're gonna have to beat the Lakers. In
order to pete the Lakers, they're gonna need Patrick Beverley,
Montrez Harrold and Lou Williams to play really well, and

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them not playing, it'll show off their depth, you know.
I mean, like how many teams can roll out Reggie
Jackson when you're down a couple of when you're down
to guards nobody other than them. So they'll they'll roll
out some some quality depth and I think they'll be
they'll still be outstanding and stuff. Kauai, who's looked a
little bit thick, a little bit thick so far, it

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hasn't played great and Paul George fully healthy, but you
know the weakness inside for the Clippers, they tried to
shore up. I know they got Zoobos back, but and
they have Marcus Morris. They picked up right, Marcus versus
markuis But Clippers Lakers is the marquee game, and everybody's
gonna paying attention. But I don't know if it feels like,

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do you guys go regrets to the mean toward the mean?
Which which do you use in your every day expressions?
Regress to the mean to? I think it's to the mean,
So it's a regression toward the mean is a phenomenon
that arises if a sample of a random variable is extreme,

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a future sample will be closer to the mean, the
average future measurements. In other words, look, look, we've been
off for four months, and we're gonna have some weird
final scores. One because I don't think everybody's gonna be
playing their roster because right now, you're you're just doing
the slow build up to some d D dudes are

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in better shape. Some guys have been playing more, Some
teams are more cohesive, some are more driven to rut
wind Right now, but I think eventually we're gonna aggress
towards the mean. Now that that may not be until
we get past these eight games, right, it may not.
And we kind of got to see him. We gotta
see how many minutes Frank Vogel play, Um that does

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he play Lebron James? How many does he play Anthony Davis.
Lakers are five point favorites. New Orleans is two and
a half point favorites. But the mean is, you know,
the average of all the games taken so far, the
Bucks were the best team record wise. The Raptors had
the second best record in the East. The Lakers, then
the Clippers, the Nuggets, the Jazz, the Thunder and then

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everybody else kind of together. That's the mean. And and
no matter how many weird finishes, endings scores we get
over the next couple two weeks. The NBA is a
is a league which because of the seven game series,
because of the length of these games and the volume

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of possessions, the better team with the better player almost
always wins. There are some very very close series. You know,
when the Calves beat the Thunder, for beat the Cavs
beat the Warriors, for example. You know there was there
were some outlie Bogan got hurt, Draymond got suspended, and

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you know Kyrie hits a big shot, there's the big
block by Lebron James. Like these things don't happen, and
that thing could literally go either way. It may have.
But as we get, as we get closer and closer
to the playoffs, my guests, as the NBA is going
to regress to the mean and or towards the mean,

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and you're gonna remember, like, oh yeah, maybe basketball in
the record season's kind of boring, sort of pointless. That
that's why they talk so much m v P and
so much statistical stuff, because if you just watch the game,
you're like, yeah, this is like this season, who is
kind of boring. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter

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noon Pacific. Pat forty joins us in The Doug Gotlip Show,
and Fox Sports Radio writes or Sports Illustrat covered college
sports for the longest time. Are you wearing a mask
at this very moment, at this very moment, in the
sanctity of my own house, I am not. Yeah, I
um okay, do you go regress towards the mean or

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regress to the mean. Uh, I think to the mean,
toward it to I think, I think I'm going toward it.
Way to take a stand, pat forty joining us um
okay to me? To me, Notre Dame essentially joining the
a c C and sharing their TV profits is mind blowing,

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earth shattering, groundbreaking to any of us who have been
around college sports. Um. I feel like though, it's kind
of getting swept a little bit under the rug. It's like, Wow,
the NBA started. No, yeah, Notre Dame is playing in
the a c C. And again, I don't know how
long it lasts, but this is a big thing. Patent,
Am I wrong? Oh no, No, it's a huge thing. Huge.
I'm actually I'm just finishing a column on the subject

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right now. Uh it is. I mean, they've been playing
football since seven They've never played in the conference. It
is something they have clung to more tenacious, lee and
proudly and arrogantly than than any other school was clung
to that I can think of in terms of football
identity and uh to to admit that they need to

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need some help this year is is pretty remarkable. Well well,
hu uh, why is it? Simply because of scheduling. Yeah, yeah,
I think that they were. Now they're between a rock
and a hard place here and with no Stanford game,
no USC game, no Wisconsin game, and difficulty picking up

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other people because you could see that the Power five
leagues were probably all heading towards conference only. You've got
six already with the a c C. You sure want
to keep those. The best way to keep those is
to say, Okay, what else can we do to make
sure this happens in the well? A bout of play
ten and we'll let you play for a championship in conference.
And you know, if there actually is a season, and

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you could be the champion of the a c C
and have a great chance of getting into the College
Football Playoff. But if you go eleven and one outside
the a c C as an independent, you're probably not
getting it. The Gotli Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
do you believe this the sticks? This is more than
a one year, one off sort of deal. I don't

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think so. Um. You know, I still think that there
are so many advantages for Notre Dame as it sees
it in being an independent. You know, they have made
their recruiting ground the Nation, and if you cut that
down in to a third, basically to the to the Atlantic, Seaboards, Southeast, etcetera. Uh,

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it doesn't help you even if you still maintain you know,
the one game a year in California. What are you
doing to get into Texas? What are you doing in
the heartland? Uh? You know, when you have been able
to go everywhere and everywhere, Now are you suddenly going
to try to beat Clemson US in Florida State in
the southeast. I think it'd be too limiting. So I
think that they u through this for a year, maybe

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see if they like it. But at the end of
the day they go back to being a bachelor. I
just can't believe they're sharing their NBC money. That's the
one and I'm sure that was part of the you
want to play ten games. I got to share the
NBC money, But man, that's that's hard. Although they get
some of the A c C network money, so maybe
they end up being made right, made a whole anyway.
Pat Forty joining us Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox

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Sports Radio. Other big story of the day is that
the n C is going to allow players to put
names of UH of victims of social unrest. Um, and
you know and other slogans on the front of the
back of their jerseys. That this is really interesting because

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I know professional sports has done it, collegian sports has not. Heck,
some collegiate teams don't have anything on the back of
their jerseys, like Penn State football in Indiana and basketball.
What's your reaction to this news? Very interesting for sure, Um,
you know it. It will meet some definite blowback from
some people. But I think there's more support than ever

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for college athletes to flex their muscles, speak their mind,
state their case for whatever their case may be, uh,
and and be supported for it and not be told
you know, no, you're only supposed to play. You're not
supposed to be hurt. You're just supposed to be grateful
to have your scholarship and to be there. Uh. Those

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days are going going and almost gone. And so I
think that this is a wise acknowledgement of where we
are trending as a society. And I think that I
don't think it's gonna hurt that much. I mean, yes,
there will be some people will be mad. What do
I can do? Not go to the games. You're already
not going to the games. Uh, maybe you withhold a
a donation check, but I bet that would be doing

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far between. So I think this is a good thing
without that much negative repercussion. That's tangible. Uh. That's the
voice of Pat Forty, who's joining us in the Doug
Otlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. The interesting thing about
the idea of free speech is it actually isn't unlimited, right,
Like there's just no one can if a if a

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kid is a Trump supporter, you're not gonna put Trump.
You're just not. I mean, there's there is a limit
to the free speech, which is the opposite of the
of the intent, which is is fascinating, you know, And
would anybody be able to put the the all lives
matter or blue Lives matter whatever you know. Again, I'm

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not saying I'm not even saying that I would or
it's in great taste. Um, but but we don't we
we we judge the intent of somebody, but it actually
is limiting the free speech, which is the opposite of
the intended effect. Well, I mean yeah, I guess there
have to be discussions uh on schools. What you know,
what does constitute uh unlimited free speech and what the

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limitations are yeah. I mean, you know, the the the
one thing that people always confuse is that you know,
you're limiting my facials. No, you're you're You're free to
say whatever you want. But there's also gonna be consequences
with a lot of things. Uh. And I see what
you're saying, you know, I think that you can It's
it's maybe an academic discussion or exercise, but I think

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there is a difference between Trump and Black Lives Matter
because one is purely a political statement. The other is
a social statement. I'm just I just I'm just throwing
I'm just throwing it out there, you know, the the
blue lives matter, All lives matter, you know. Um, you know,
there's a million different things that you could do that
could be seen as being negative towards a Black Lives

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Matter or social justice sort of statement, but would be
a statement of beliefs or a statement of you know,
if you thought, you know, I pick a cop who
was killed, who was who was killed when he walked
up to a car, you know, pick a little child
and here in Chicago that was killed. The we didn't
march for you know, I mean, there are interesting things
that would be seen as counter to the movement. But that,

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by the way, is part of what free speech is about,
which is you're allowed, as long as you don't violate
somebody else's free speech and and their civil rights, you're
allowed to have a thoughtful opinion on subjects. Sure now,
and that's you know. I would hope that they would
be able to have those discussions within a team or
within an athletic department. If somebody came forward and said,
I want to put all Lives Matter on my jersey, Okay,

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well let's discuss it, and let's see if that's something
that we're good with. Uh. Let you know why, you
have those discussions, have the debates, have the you know,
see if you can at least reach an understanding as
a team or an athletic department or a university about
where all this extends and react accordingly. Pat forward to
joining us here on the Doug Gatlip Show on Fox

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Sports Radio. Do you think college sports can pull it off?
I don't know, man, I mean it is so funny, literally,
you know, just this afternoon, one phone call, like, I
don't think so. I you know, I think we're absolutely
going to the spring. I just I don't see it
happening with fall the next phone call. You know, we
really want to play in the fall. How's it gonna

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look if we try to play? You know? I mean
so they just the the the school to school, day
to day variance in what we could do, what we
should do. It's just been it's been exhausting, it's been fascinating.
I don't know where and how we reach a consensus.
I really don't, because everybody is just all over the map, literally,

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and that's part of having a sport with a hundred
and thirty teams that go from Hawaii to Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts. Uh,
it's just you know, they're they're everything is different everywhere,
and I just don't know whether we can pull it off. Certainly.
I don't think everyone can pull it off together. But
I think we'll reach a point where some people certainly
try to pull it off. Yeah, I think they'll try
and pull up. I think they can. I mean, you know,

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a lot of it's gonna come down to following protocols.
I mean, that's really the story. You look at baseball,
there's there's there's no negative test outside of outside of
the Marlin situation, which appears to have been somebody violated
protocol right in the NBA. Now that's a that's a short,
air tight bubble. Uh. But but they've been able to

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guys follow protocol and have no positive test. So we'll
see what the NFL with college football. And I do
like the idea that you keep it within conference so
that everybody has the same standard of testing, the same
standard of understanding who's healthy and who's sick before every game,
the same number of amount of time off and weeks off.
I think all of that works works in theory. We'll

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see if it works in practice. Path forty joining us
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
all right, what about players opting out. You've got one
of the top cornerbacks in the country opting out from
Virginia Tech. I'll just tell you quickly, my stance has been,
you're allowed to You're absolutely allowed to not play. UM,
but if you're going to work out in a private

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facility and live at home, unless you're gonna self quarantine
the entire year, and you're going to make sure that
that facility keeps up with all the protocols of your college,
and you get medical checkups as often as you get
in college. I actually believe you're less safe at home
with us in phase two and phase three. Then you

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are on a college campus. Do you how many what
sense do you get of the number of college players
if they play in the fall, will opt out? Yeah,
you know, I mean that's a good point that you make,
and that's I think to some degree, there may be
some people that are using COVID as a cover of
I don't want to play anyway because I'm I don't
buy into the whole college nature of things, and I

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just presume not get hurt and not play for free.
So I'm just gonna go as opposed to I'm going
to do a better job avoiding the virus somewhere other
than campus. Um, I think that there's gonna be a
pretty high number, I mean relatively high number of guys,
Like there's gonna be maybe a dozen, two dozen, I
don't know, maybe more, depending on how things look on

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various campuses where we're standing. As we get closer to kickoff,
these are decisions people will probably hold their cards on
a little longer maybe, But I think that, uh, you know,
there's gonna be several top players and not all top players.
And we have the running back from Illinois who opted
out actually uh two days ago. And so you know,

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I think that this is just gonna be something that
you're gonna see a guy here, guy there, and if
things start going badly, you're gonna see more guys and
the other thing, like we have talked about, uh in
the past, people skipping Bowl games. Watch when people's seasons
start to go bad. If you start, if you're having
a bad season, if you if we play and on
November one, your team is not doing very well, man,

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you're gonna see guys bailing left and right at it. Yeah.
I also wonder the there will be any Nick mar
Cacuses out there, you know, guys who who bail. You
know what, I actually a much on TV. I want
to go play. I wonder how much of that there
is could be? No, I mean there there could absolutely be.
I you know, we just don't know so much. We
don't know. It's it's almost hilarious. If it were if

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it weren't so maddening, it would be hilarious. Yeah, if
it weren't so maddening, it would be hilarious. Um for
for people don't know, Pat, you you raised swimmers. The
Olympic sports are in desperate, desperate need of kids on campus,
games being played, nonconference games and creating fight What what
happens with the college model to some of these Olympic sports,

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like swimming up for grabs, up in the air, you know,
I mean the fall sports I think are there's a
high likelihoor, they're getting moved to the spring, and then
we don't know if they're going to play. Uh. Swimming
is a winter sport, is basically mirrors the basketball season
they're you know, most people are thinking they're not starting
competition until January, which may well be the case with

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basketball as well. And so then how much of a
season is it? Are you having like three meets and
then a Pack twelve championship and then an n C
Double A championship? Is that enough? But do you want
to red shirt? You want to do what Arizona State
did in rid shirt their entire team. I think those
discussions are going on right now everywhere, and I don't
think Arizona State will be the only school to decide that,

(29:12):
and not the only sport of swimming too that I
think this is gonna happen a few different places and
a few different sports, but uh, you know, they're those
sports I think are very much girding for the worst
at this point. Um, how does it feel to be
a Missouri guy and to watch Michael Porter Jr. Only
attended Missouri for like a minute? Right? Yeah, yeah, I

(29:34):
don't think he said the coronavirus is it's just there
to control people. That's what this is. Yeah. Yeah, that
was great. That was really good. Um. You know, I'm
going to say this that he was not on campus
long enough to get a full, you know, intellectually stimulating
challenge of his beliefs, thoughts and attitudes to to be
very educated. How about that? Okay, that's a difficulty with

(29:58):
the messaging, you know, that's the difficulty with with with
with whatever statements they put on the jerseys that that
you know, it's like you're expecting people who have only
been on this earth for eighteen nineteen years and are
very very susceptible to believing everything they see on social
media and short little bites, you know, making statements that

(30:19):
now we represent them, their team, their university, and that
that that is a that that can be a bit
of um. Um, what's it? A bit of tinder right
where you know you can. You can. You can start
a whole whole the United You can start a whole match.
Um so they I mean, and no one knows that
better than than Missouri and what happened there with the
massive protests going back a couple of years ago. Yeah,

(30:42):
no doubt about it. I mean, you know, but that,
like I I agree with what you're saying. I also
think that college is a time for trial and error
and that you should be able to try to figure
out what you believe. You can take some missteps, you
can get some blowback for it, get some things thrown
in your face, but maybe you should also have the
chance to do those things. Great stuff, Pat, pat forty

(31:04):
Sports Illustrated. We can't wait to read his column on
note tra Dame, who's joining the a SEC for at
least a year, Pat, great stuff, Thanks so much for
join us, my man, all right, dog my pleasure. That's
the one and only Pat forty forty yard Dash, of course,
now available on s I s I dot com. Follow
Pat on his Twitter handle as well. We know who's
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(31:26):
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game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Anyway, all right, Dan,

(32:10):
Dan Buyer, Wait, what's the game today? Doug? Today? Is
I feel a draft? Al right? We are going to
be drafting teams likely to win the NBA title. That
so the NBA season resumes tonight. Who do we have
to win the NBA title? This draft is scheduled for
two rounds, eight picks total. The order goes like this,

(32:34):
with the first overall pick me, followed by Doug, then
John Ramos and then Ryan Music and then we will
snake it back in the second round. Are you guys.
Ready to do this? Alright, first overall pick, guys. I
had to do it. I may have rigged the lottery
as well. I frozen envelope. I folded the corner to
make sure I got the first overall pick. Give me

(32:56):
the Milwaukee Bucks for the first overall pick? And who
is going to win an NBA title? Um? All right, Doug,
you are up at number two. I'm gonna go with
the l A Clippers. Mm hmm. Interesting. All right, John
Ramos you sit at number three. Well, I'm gonna go

(33:19):
out on a limb on this one. Number three. I
think it's it's rightfullyst done. I'm gonna take the Los
Angeles Lakers. The Lakers, they fall to three. How happy
are you about that? I was excited? Thank you, Doug.
That is shocking, What a shocking turn of events here.
I'm gonna go with the Golden State Warrior. I will

(33:41):
take the defending NBA champions in the Toronto Raptors. And
now I have to figure out who is my next pick.
I'm gonna go with Boom or Bust the Houston Rockets.

(34:01):
That's a good that's the one I was gonna take. Okay,
you got us that's a great question, Doug. Uh m hmm. I'
tech the Philadelphia Alright, I'm gonna date the Boston Celtics. Alright,

(34:26):
the Celtics go second. Guys, that just got word. This
draft is going to go another two rounds. This just
in so I've got I've got double the pick, double
the fun. Give me, hey, bull Bull has been all
the craze. Maybe he's the piece to put the Nuggets
over the top. Give me the Nuggets at number eight

(34:49):
and then on the flip side, coming back starting the
third round. You are smoking a bull bull oh man
top you know, I'll say the Miami Heat. I'll take
the Heat at number nine. All right, Doug, you're up
at ten. Mm hmm. I can't wait to see the

(35:10):
six teams left out. Okay, see here, So I have
the Clippers. I feel good about the Celtics. I feel
good about you have the heat. That means um I have.
I'm gonna take the Utah Jazzy. I thought about the

(35:35):
thought about a couple of other teams. Are good. All right,
John Ramos, you are back up. I'm gonna take the
Dallas Maverick. Wow. I thought they would maybe have gone
a little higher. I thought Doug was gonna take him
right there. That's why I was like, I was, I heard,
I heard like, and then I stopped. So all right,

(35:56):
it looks like I am gonna have to take the
Portland Trailblazers. And now we are in quite a spot. Okay,
you know what, we have tested positives for crappy teams. Yeah, yeah,
we are getting down there. But you know what, Hey,

(36:17):
let's go Chris Paul in the Oklahoma City thunder Right, casey,
let's do it. Let's go. Did you take John? I
took the Mavericks, Okay, and then you took the thunder
and Horse. You're taking their music. I took the Trailblazers. Okay,
there's nobody. Good luck, good h I'm up again. Yeah.

(36:38):
Let me uh, let me let me say Zion Is
there for a reason. The New Orleans Pelicans, Yeah yeah,
we say peller Cants. John says Pellicans. All these teams
that are not going to make the playoffs. Oh my god,

(36:58):
this this chance to win the NBA title. Correct, Yeah,
Well it's a hard one, right either take I'm gonna
take the you take the Pacers who don't have their guys.
I'm gonna take the Pacers, Give me Pacers, all right,
leaves it up to me. I gotta take Memphis, you
know the it will take the Grize with the last pick.

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So that leaves the Nets, the Magic, the King's Spurs
and Sons. Am I missing someone else of not being
drafted in our draft? Wizards? The Wizards would be the
last one there it is. This is game time on
the Duck Gottlieb Show, Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,

(37:47):
that was an interesting draft. That was a good that
was well done by you, Dan Buyer, right, really really
well done. Major League Baseball continues to play where like
it's funny, how like baseball? Like okay, now we're back
to not paying attention to baseball unless they're some fight
or unless somebody gets sick for baseball, whereas basketball will
actually pay attention to the games and take regular season
games to mean something for the postseason, which it really doesn't.

(38:10):
The NFL, on the other hand, everything seems to matter
with the exception of playoff games. For who players think
is number one overall? Last Brandon Weed when he thinks
of that list. Next the Doug Gotlip Show, be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
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Radio and the I Heart Radio a app what uf
Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you are doing well,

(38:36):
maybe not as well as our next guest name is
Brandon Weed and he just won his uh what'd you
and your your club tournament? So what you did, Brandon? Yeah,
we gotta get little match play that kind of goes
on throughout the year. We Uh, we had you played
one match a month, and we played our match today
and we played good. My partner shot like sixty five.
I think I shot seventy or seventy one, I think.

(38:59):
And uh, the dude we played against and we beat,
played on the China Tour for several years. He was
he's a hecking player, hself. Yeah, it's a good it's
good win for us. We play good. Who's your partner,
Jared Black? He Uh, he played college golf at Southern
Nats rain here and he's actually my my business partner now.
So he he's he's a stick, not a not a
very big guy, but he can he can golf with

(39:19):
the ball. How is that? How is that possible how
these little dudes hit the but had the golf ball
so far. I do not understand that the physics to him.
They just hit it right in the middle of the
club face. Man, they don't miss you know. They where
I'm hitting off the toe and the hill and every
which way possible. These guys just they hit it consistently
in the middle of the face and there every time.
So it's amazing. I mean, I play with guys that

(39:40):
are you know, six or eight into shorter and forty
times lighter and know that twenty yards by me. It's
it's pretty mind bought me, to be honest. And is
that uh is this an oak tree? Now? This was
a Gallardia on the west side of Edman over here. Yeah,
I know, I know, I know. Glardia is okay. So
we windy today because that's a that is for people
who don't know Gilardias track, it is links style, so

(40:02):
it is. If it's windy, it's really difficult. How windy
was it now? It wasn't blowing. I would say three
to five miles an hour was hot and no win,
which you know over here, man, it's pretty pretty uncommon.
Normally it's blown twenty. But yeah, we've got no wind
and it played. It played pretty easy today for compared
to normal. Yeah, brand and wait and joining us a

(40:22):
fresh shop of dub On at at Gallardia outside of
Oklahoma City. Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I don't know if you saw the Top hundred players
rankings as voted on by the players, but they put
Lamar Jackson number one. That's ahead of Pat Malomes. Moms
is the third rated quarterback Russell Wilson to what's your reaction, Yeah,

(40:43):
I mean, if it were me, I would put Mahomes
number one. I think he's the best player, the most
valuable player in the NFL. Um you know, I mean
those other guys are great obviously, but you know, I
just think Patrick Mahomes is playing and he played at
a different level, you know. I mean, he's just he's
He's incredible. I mean, Russell was great too. I think

(41:03):
Karon Donald's obviously the best defensive player in football. So
I mean I think, you know, he should probably be
right there two or three kind of like he was.
But yeah, I mean if it's me, I mean I
would go, in my personal opinion, out of those three
quarterbacks at ranking Mahomes, Wilson, and then probably the more
you know, maybe those Lamar and Mahomes switching spots if
there me. I mean, Lamar had a great year and

(41:25):
he's he's over talented, there's no doubt, But I just
take Pastrick Mahomes. Uh, just he's that much better. Yeah,
I I agree. Um. I would even say, like, if
if I'm trying to win a football game this weekend,
I still take Aaron Rodgers. Um. Aaron Rodgers was on
Good Morning Football. He talked about his kind of disappointment
and and and the business aspects to it. How do

(41:48):
you think Aaron Rodgers is handling now a couple of
months removed the Jordan lab draft pick. Yeah, he's got
to be pretty frustrated pre piste off. I mean, it
just it seems like a weird environment up there with him.
I don't and I don't understand it. I don't know
if he rubs people up there the wrong way. It
just doesn't done some mic you're jelling. It just seems

(42:09):
weird from the outside looking in. I mean, day it
sucks as good as Aaron Rodgers is, and I think
he's the most probably one of the most top two
most talented quarterbacks in the NFL and has been for
a long time. You know, if he goes up there,
let's say he struggles week one and week two and
doesn't throw three touchdowns and maybe turns it over a
couple of times, when people are gonna start yelling for him,
which I think it's just absolutely insane, But that's just

(42:32):
the nature of the beast man. When they draft first
round quarterbacks, you know that guy that's already there. I mean,
unfortunately the way the media works and you know, just people,
but he's a project, Like everybody knows he's a project.
I agree, I h I agree with Harmer saying even
more so him, you know, you know, or if it's
like two of you know, two is you know, I

(42:52):
think he'd come in. He can play, and he's gonna
have his bumps and bruises. But I need Jordan's loves.
He needs time. I mean, I think he needs a
lot of time. He's got raw tools, but I man,
he if he had to play this year, I think
it'd be tough on him. So yeah, I mean, I
just I think it's crazy. I just every time I
read stuff like that, it just makes me shake my head, like,
you know, how can people actually dream this of them?
I know it's I know it's a slow sports time

(43:14):
right now, but you know the fact that you know
he should even you know, be talking about taking Aaron
Rodgers job is in my my opinion, pretty comfortable. I
I agree. I I even think Aaron thinking that is
pretty comical when you look at the reality no preseason games.
Who does that affect the most? The young players? I mean,

(43:35):
I just think these these young guys, you know, I
feel bad for the undrafted free agents, you know, the
guys that um aren't gonna gonna get a chance to
go out and put some stuff on tapes, you know,
even if not for their own team, for other teams
across the league. Um, it's just man, it's gonna be tough.
And then you know the guys that are gonna be
expected to come in Week one and play. I mean,
that's I can't I can't stress enough how hard that's

(43:57):
gonna be for those guys, and and even more so
a quarterback position. So yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna
be tough on the young players. I think it's gonna
be good for a lot of the veteran players. I mean,
I've I've been saying that, I think the preseason is
too long, you know, for for a lot of years.
But um, you know, if there's always always been four,
I think too two games, it's plenty, you know. Give
those veterans the chance to play maybe a half and

(44:18):
maybe one quarter of the next game, and then that's
only need, you know, just to to get get the
by right, getting get that routine back underneath them and
and get going. But these young players, unfortunately, it's just
gonna be tough on him. Randy Weading our guests in
the Dug Outlive show on Fox Sports trait. Did you
see the video of to A walking into the facility?
I have not seen it yet. No, I couldn't tell

(44:40):
if he's limping or if it was just a casual strut.
His his gate looked a little looked a little looked
a little off. How would you handle him if you
had to? Uh, it's coming off major hip surgery, but
he's been deemed to be healthy by all the doctors.
How would you handle it? If you're Brian flores Man,
this this stuff, I'm not I think you gotta trust

(45:00):
your doctors, obviously, the doctors say he's fully healthy and
and ready to go. Um, you know, I think you've
given the opportunity. You know, training camp is gonna be
a little unque this year, but getting the opportunity to
go out and practice and he looks healthy, he's playing
healthy's playing better, and all those other quarterbacks that are
down there with him, I mean, I think you gotta
give the guy a chance. He took him high, he
took him on the draft for a reason. Um, But

(45:23):
that hip injuries, it's a little scary for me. You know,
if you re aggravate that thing and I heard it again,
I like that could really set it back. So that's
a touchy situation. They gotta they gotta touch decision to make.
It sounds like, you know, if he's ready, he's gonna
be the starter. Um. But you know, I guess if
I'm running the show, I would I'd be a little
costly optimistic and maybe baby it's just a little bit

(45:45):
early on and uh kind of let him get his
feet wet and you know things are going south, you know,
every week four weeks five, and then throw him in
there and see what he can do. Doug Otlip Show
here on Fox Sport Trader. That's the voice of Brandon
Wheed and former starting quarterback Browns Cowboys, Houston Texans. Um. Okay,
I'm I'm I'm fascinated by this. Uh you in college football,

(46:09):
you're gonna have no non conference games for some of
these leagues, or maybe one non conference game. So I
do think that those nonconference games can help you, right,
they can you get so you have no like scrimmages,
you got no ramp up, and you got no lead up.
You're right in conference as a guy who played in
the Big Twelve. In the Big Twelve, maybe not as
good as it it was when you were in it. Um,

(46:32):
but we do think Texas could be pretty good this year.
Oh you should be pretty good this year as well.
I'm wondering what you think this does the college football
when you take away the non conference games where you
can work on some things and again develop some of
these younger guys. I think it's tough. You know, I
just think that first game, especially the first one, second one,
you know, you kind of get your feet wet, and

(46:52):
you kind of you kind of built a routine, you
kind of know what to expect, but the first one
is always tough. So if you know you're not playing,
you're jumping right in. Let's say your use Oklahoma State
for example, you gotta go play Texas on the road.
You first around a lot of the box week one.
I mean, that's tough. You know. The luxury of you know,
playing a bigger schools you is you kind of get
a game with a smaller school to kind of you know,

(47:14):
get some confidence, kind of find out what you're good at,
kind of getting that game mode. Um. But with that's
without these nonconference games for these conferences, it's gonna be tough.
I really do. I think, you know, the way the
schedule is gonna work out for each to each conference
is gonna be gonna be kind of interesting. Um, I
don't know. I've heard. I've seen rum wings that maybe
some big twelve verse SEC stuff early on, you know,

(47:36):
which is again tough, especially if you draw in Alabama
or an Auburn or you know, a Florida or something
like that. That's gonna be that's tough. But yeah, you know,
I think it sucks for the nonconference teams because if
they're not able to play those games, that done putty
money in their pockets and and for the players, if
you're at these bigger schools, I always like playing a
lesser team early on, just to kind of get the
kinks out and kind of knock the cobwebs out and

(47:58):
get hit a couple of times and kind to get
your feet get your feet wet um. It doesn't sound
like a lot of these conferences gonna have that lecturing.
There's so far one quarter cornerback top cornerback out of
Virginia Tech projected first or second round pick, is gonna
opt out. If you were in that position and it
was different, right, you were older, married but didn't have
children at the time. What do you think about guys

(48:20):
opting out of what would be their final season in
college football? I mean, each each guy's individual, you know,
each each individual has got a you know, a different
maybe a stance on it or a different situation. You know,
it's got health underlying health conditions, your family does or whatever.
Maybe that's one thing. But if all things are good

(48:40):
and I'm healthy and I have nobody around me, that
is ailing I'm playing football. I mean, you know, you
only get so many chances to play college football, and
and uh yeah, I think you know I'm gonna go
out there and and finish my senior year on trying
to finish on a high note. That's just me personally,
you know. I know there's a like said, there's a
lot everybody is different because they got different situations going on.

(49:01):
But um, in a perfect world, I'm I'm playing football,
and I know that won't be the case for a
lot of guys. You've seen the NFL. There's been a
bunch of pretty high profile players that have started not
to play even you know so and a lot of
those guys have have family members that you got health
health conditions. So but if I'm a senior in college, man,
I'm I'm playing college football. I'm gonna play as much

(49:21):
as I can. And you know, the NFL will be there. Um,
as long as you go out and stay healthy and
take care of this Brandon weed and be glad you
got the dub today on the golf course. Thanks so
much for joining us, and continue hitting long and straight.
Thanks for joining us. Everybody. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Godlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific, broadcasting live from the studios

(49:45):
of Fox Sports Radio. Here's Doug Godlieb Doug Gotlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. UM, I saw this story and I
thought it was really interesting to to sho air with you.
Following the a coronavirus outbreak that infected nearly half of
the Marlin's roster and prompted the temporary suspension the team season,

(50:07):
Major League Baseball is encouraging players not to leave hotels
and roads cities except for games, mandating the use of
surgical mass instead of cloth masks during travel, requiring every
team to travel with compliance officer who insures players and
staff follow leagues protocols. Sources set right. So what does
that tell you? Okay, so there was a story. I'm

(50:31):
I'm lost as to what day today is, Today's Thursday,
yesterday's Thursday. NBA gets back underway. We'll still talk about
that a little later on the hour. Um, there was
a story two days ago. It was it three days
I get my days confused. I think it was two
days ago. Two days ago. There's a story. I'm driving
home and there's a non confirmed story that what really
happened was when the Braves got to Atlanta, some dudes

(50:54):
went out. That's how they traced it. That's where they
believe that it's Toby said eyes Mark Raves Braves to
live in Atlanta. When the Marlins got to Atlanta to
play the Braves, some dudes went out and that's where
they believe they contracted the coronavirus and they spread it
to the team. This essentially says that much. Right, you
don't put this out there and go like, hey, by

(51:15):
the way, make sure you don't go out in the road.
And we're gonna we're gonna have a home. Monitor, We're
gonna have an r A. We're gonna have a home
Did you remember your freshman year in college when you're
you're like, you always want to be nice to the
r A. Notre dame. You know this, They actually have
not just curfew, but curfew for girls that could be

(51:35):
in guy's dorms. Right, it's like ten on weeknights and
midnight on weekends, or maybe it's eleven on weeknights and
one on weekends. I can't remember. But then you had
to be nice to the r A and the r
A might not knock on your door if you had
a lady friend or just a friend in your dorm.
And look, the stories are all the same It's like,

(51:56):
did you see there's an outbreak with Rutgers football team
because they had a offcampest party. The problem is not
can we have live sports? The problem is will players
actually hold themselves to the standard needed to keep everybody safe.
It's like Damian Lillard was right, Remember Daviean Lillard said,
He's like, man, I just don't know. I everybody's gonna
follow the rules. And the answer is they won't. Williams didn't,

(52:18):
the Marlins didn't, Rikers didn't, and and guess what happened?
They all had positive tests. I guess a pretty easy. Now.
It doesn't mean that no one's ever snuck out and
not caught it, but all the dudes that snuck out,
all the eyes that caught it, did sneak out, which

(52:39):
actually brings you back to what I've told you before,
which is you are safer in whatever sports bubble falling
their protocols and you are at home. You can tell
me it's a load of crap. If you think a
college kid is like, well, I'm not gonna play with
my team this year. I'm gonna stay home. Okay, what

(53:00):
what a college kid's gonna stay in quarantine all year?
Of course he's not. He's gonna go out and he's
gonna go work out. And when you work out, you
don't have somebody follows the same protocols. You just don't.
You know, you just don't. So I don't know. We

(53:24):
we do this thing to where we call into question
live sports can live sports. Yeah, if the players have discipline,
and if they don't, it won't happen. How can you
expect that of him? Well, I mean, like, look, in
order to be an athlete of that caliber, you've gotta
be disciplined. But that's but that's the deal. I just

(53:45):
wish once somebody would would would actually say opt out
and go like, hey, listen, I'm not opting out for
family safety. I'm out because I just want to go
out and I don't want to. I don't. I don't
like playing sports that much. I mean, the college kids
are opting out. They're opting He's like, look, my stock
is good. All I can do is hurt it. I'm
gonna I'm gonna. I think it's a mistake. You know,

(54:07):
those guys their their their skill will not be as refined.
But I think that's what's going to happen to college
is the NFL guys. That doesn't make any sense to me.
You really think your health and safety is important, then
use the money make in the NFL to pay for
them to be safe. I know. Yeah. By the way,
you're safer if you simply follow the protocols and do
what you're told and you're tested up more a you'll

(54:29):
be tested. NFL guys are gonna get tested every day
every day. That's not gonna happen you're at home. And
by the way, when you follow their protocols, they actually
do work. Hey, doctors and scientists might know a thing
or two about infectious diseases. This not breaking news. Fox
Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

(54:51):
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot
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s R to listen live Doug Alive show here on
Fox Sports Radio ton to get to um. You know
it's this is interesting to me. Uh, the NBA getting
back underway, but the Clippers still not having all of

(55:11):
their guys. Pap Everley's back, he's there, he's clear. But
I don't know if you've played tonight Williams under quarantine
of course, Wayna Montraz Harold to get back the first
game which starts at uh I think three thirty on
the West. You have three thirty in the West. That's
gonna have Zion Wimson who will play. So we got
NBA basketball back, and there's lots of reasons to be excited.

(55:33):
Everyone's sent you know, like Lebron's chasing title number four. Um,
we all want to know if there's gonna be a sleeper.
You know, you have the team's fighting for that eight
seed in the playoffs Portland, New Orleans, San Antonio, maybe
even Sacramento. And then you know, tonight you've got the
battle for l A and Kauai trying to be a
Finals MVP and Finals champion, two different teams, two different years.

(55:56):
Let's welcome to Ryan Hollins. He's an l A product
of course playing the NBA, played for a couple of
these teams. He joins in the Doug Otlips Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Ryan, it feels like it feels like,
no matter how much we want to pump up all
the other teams and the fact that anything could happen
because it's a neutral site. We were off for four months,

(56:17):
it still feels like the favorites of the are the
most likely to succeed Milwaukee, the two l a's who's
the fourth team that's most likely to get there? What?
What's what's tough is because when we are annoying the
most likely to get there, we stopped looking at team.
We have to look at player. We don't see other

(56:38):
accomplished players. You feel like with Janice, what he's done, Uh,
he should be back to back m v P uh
this year. It's his time to come out the East.
Fair to say, right, Doug. Yeah, when you're looking at
the last we know who Lebron James is. We saw
what cow I did last year, and when it really
boils down to it, it's a players league. We don't

(56:58):
see another guy who anointed himself as a superstar. I
will give you a guy to look at, Jason Tatum.
I think Jayson Tatum, with his play right before the
COVID or the breakdown, I thought he was a top
five player in the league. Uh, or at least top ten.
We'll we'll put him in a mix. Maybe I'm a
little hot coming in at five, but he's definitely in

(57:20):
the top ten if he can take that next jump
from all Star to Superstar, Boston will be that team.
Remember his rookie year, he was the man in that
Game seven against Lebron James. That's why we were so optimistic.
He seemingly underachieved. Looks like he got back on pace
this year. But if he goes from All Star to Superstar,

(57:44):
he is what I'm looking at with Boston, if they
can defend and do enough things around him. Second honorable mention,
I'll say Pascal Siakam. He's gonna have to be able
to score at a high level, at a Kawhi Leonard
like pace for them to get past Milwaukee. Now I
know what are defensively. I know he's gonna work the
tail off on the floor. I don't know if he's

(58:04):
there yet, but I'm optimistic. I like the way he looks.
But Jason Tatum by far had shown that I'm probably
the next man up right, I'll join us in the
Doug Outlips Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's
let's start with tonight. What are your expectations Lakers Clippers,
especially considering the Clippers are down three very important rotation dudes.

(58:27):
When I'm looking at a Lakers Clippers tonight, this is
gonna be a business trip for the Lakers. This isn't
gonna be all we're resting all, We're not all in
because they've they've got to get the mental edge back.
They've got to dominate the mental edge in regards to
you know, playing against Paul George, Kawhi Leonard. It's not
about wins and losses, Doug. I've I've been there before.

(58:49):
Whenever you're playing an opponent that you're going to see
in the playoffs, you have to show that your sets run,
your sets run good, they work your plays around par
You gotta show Lebron James have to show us that
he can defend Kawhi Leonard. Uh and he's also also
can be effective on the offensive into the into the floor.

(59:09):
So I'm looking at the mental edge. Obviously, you want
to get away healthy. You don't want to risk any
injury for either of those teams. It's not gonna be
a big placing thing, but you don't want to give
any bit of an advantage to a dangerous Clipper squad,
even without missing anybody. And you know it's funny like
no Lou no Mantrez, that's still a stack squad. Last

(59:31):
time I checked. You know, Paul George Kawai Flitter should
be a handful you know themselves, Yeah, they should should
totally be a handful. Um Lakers better or where you
know that you add Deon Waiters, you add jr Um,
but you you lose Rondo and his experience, and you

(59:52):
lose Avery Bradley better or worse with the additions and subtractions.
I mean, you have to say that they're worse, but
you know, if you're gonna look at the subtractions, Rondo
wasn't playing heavy minutes, even though I believe he was
gonna be called upon heavily making a run uh an
important situations. So you lose the floor in general. And

(01:00:12):
Avery Bradley had really lost his minute so much Caruso
and KCP. But Avery Bradley is the guy who's been
accomplished in the playoffs and had played excellent basketball. What
they're gonna have to find in those missing notches is
the defensive intensity of Avery Bradley, because you you may
go against a Westbrook or or Lou Williams after that
ten days suspension, or or James Harden and those guys

(01:00:36):
during the run, and the Lakers have to see who's
the next man to guard them. I don't know if
I want j R. Smith or Dion Waiters guarding them.
And as far as creating a shot for the team, yes, Jr.
You know is a spot shooter. I wouldn't say he's
a guy who can create Dion Waiters who can create shots.
But he also, you know what, he's missing shots. He's

(01:00:57):
a maker miss guy. If he's making his shots, he
stays in with a roll with him. If he's missing,
he can hurt you just as much as he can help.
So there's an interesting dynamic there that the core pieces
still Lebron James I will say that they're worse off,
but this is not a large margin. Duck. If you were,
if you were vogeal, how would you how would you
manage the minutes? Like you know? How these dead like

(01:01:19):
Tonight's just about you know, as you said, getting sharp
some things that you've worked on, you know, getting everybody
when they're feeling good. But you also you have to
push guys in terms of conditioning because you're not running.
You're not running sprints, and the practices no longer mean anything.
Now now it's about to build up unto the playoffs,
conditioning wise, if you were Vogel, how does it work? Oh,

(01:01:40):
Frank's gonna go in pedal to the metal. You know,
this is a this is a playoff like atmosphere that
we're going to see. Oddly enough, how can I say
that without fans, But you know you're gonna you're gonna
have that feeling in the air. Uh look at preseason
game one that Lebron James came out and played, and
I think he plays all the minutes tonight. You're gonna
get the most out of him. But I think that
one vocal is gonna do that we've seen earlier in

(01:02:02):
the season. He's gonna experiment with some lineups. You know,
you'll see the white You'll see uh McGee, you'll see
a Morris twin playing four and five. You know, I
expect Anthony Davis Kareem a Duel Davis to be out
there playing. And they may have that small ball lineup
with with Lebron and a d playing power forward and center.
So you're gonna see a number of different lineups. And

(01:02:23):
I think you're gonna insert Jr. And Deon Waiters in
and and Deon Waiters. Is Deon Waiters gonna be the
guy that you can trust with a second unit without
Lebron James on the floor, can he creating enough offense?
Can Caruso or Quinn Cook run the point? I think
Quinn cookers look excellent. So you're gonna see a number
of different guys get a shot to play tonight. But

(01:02:44):
I think I know you're gonna get a large dose
of Lebron James unless things are out of hand. Yeah,
the problem with the Cook is he's just so little defensively,
he just becomes ineffective, whereas Caruso defensively outstanding and really
moves the ball offensively. But if he had Quinn Cook's
scoring ability, you know, if you're more for those two,
Now you've got a big time player, and that that
you know that they each have their own limitations. So

(01:03:05):
you don't think that that Lebron plays, so you think
what they play him regular season minutes up until what
game seven and eight? And then they dialing back. Yeah. Absolutely,
Like I said, today, is all about the mental edge.
You know, let's say for some odd of reason the
game gets out of hand on either way, Lebron, Kauai,
Paul George, all those guys are gonna be sitting down

(01:03:26):
because this is not gonna affect seeding too much. Maybe
the Clippers are in a little bit of danger. I
haven't looked at the standings, forgive me, but this is
gonna be go time, so I think those regular minutes
will be there. There's still some fishing around with the
lineup that you're gonna have to see. Uh. And like
I said, like like Doug, like you know, like j R.
Smith is there's one reason that he joined to rapport
with Lebron James and he's a guy you're supposed to

(01:03:48):
be able to count on come playoff time. So you
may see some extended minutes for one of those one
of those two guys. But you know, when I look
at Quinn Cook, play back to what you said about him, defensively,
he is mall. But I think he's taken upon himself
to say, hey, there's no Avery Bradley, there's no Rohndo.
I'm gonna have to be the stopper at the point

(01:04:09):
guard position because if you look at it, they really
don't have it. Coroso is athletic enough, but on the
offensive and the floor, like you said, Doug, is he
gonna is he gonna be able to run the system.
Is one thing to play point guard regular season when
you're swinging the ball around the horn, and it's another
thing in the playoffs when you got Patrick Beverley harassing
you up and down the floor seeing who can get
the ball across half court, you know, and run offense.

(01:04:30):
So I think Quinn Cook is, for me, in my opinion,
is the best student come playoff time. And he's a
guy who has some championship experience, not a lot, don't know,
don't tell me he's got. So I'm gonna disagree with
you on Quinn Cook. But that's okay. I mean, look,
they're they're both guys that came up to the G League.
They're both guys I can only dream of being that

(01:04:51):
successful in the in the n b A. I just
I don't I don't you know. You you look at
the massive drop off in Golden State when he was
out in the court as you know, as opposed to
Steph And I think that gets exposed when you play,
like you said, the real basketball of the NBA. NBA
plus Ryan Hollands joining us NBA analysts for essentially every
network former U c L A star longtime tenure NBA

(01:05:13):
player joins us in the Doug Otling Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, are you a buyer to Ben
Simmons discovering a jump shot? No, man, listen, if this
was like preseason, if this was like you know, for
eight two games I watched him experiment, Like, I'm happy
that he's doing it, Doug, but this is too late

(01:05:34):
for me to be saying that this is something that's
gonna work come playoff time. Because if I'm a team
and I'm scouting Ben Simmons, don't He's got to hit
twenty wide open three pointers in a row before I
go on Guarden. That's two honest to god truth. You know,
I'm gonna respect him, he's a pro. I'm gonna have
a very late close out shuffle defeat guard the drive.
That's the truth. When when you're guarding Ben Simmons right now.

(01:05:55):
So I like what he's doing. This was just something
you're supposed to be in the summertime time you're supposed
to see early in the season. You know, Ben Simmons
has enough equity with Brett Brown in the organization to
where if he chucks up three or four three, is
that airball in the in the midst of the game
with so many other things that he does. Well, we're
gonna say, great job, Ben, keep working on it. You know,

(01:06:16):
think about it. Dub Lebron James earlier career, bad three
point shooter, right, poor poor three point shooter had it
hits in the shot you know, you know, you know, inconsistent,
you know, really couldn't hit it in the fourth quarter
of games. But what did Lebron James do? He took
those shots. So bravo Ben Simmons for getting on board
on taking them. Is there something that I'm worrying about

(01:06:38):
it you're or you're gonna be run off the three
point when I fight anything that you play against. No,
but I like what I'm seeing. But am I Am
I buying into it at a playoff level? No? I
think they can get all these teams can get more
chemistry just all the different distractions you have at home
you wouldn't have there. You can be closer, but sometimes
there's too much time around one other, and so do

(01:07:01):
we run the risk of that once we get kind
of into the playoffs of like, hey, what what? And
maybe the Clippers are playing this smart with guys leaving
and coming back to where they're still spend a lot
of time running each other, but not too much. Whereas
you know, these other teams are getting closer and closer,
and then maybe you get too close. Doug. Let me
tell you, son man, that's an excellent point, and that's
really being overlooked right now. Uh, you've competed at a

(01:07:22):
high level. I played ten years in the league. The
hardest thing to do is to beat a team back
to back to back. When I was in Boston, we
actually Atlanta was a two seed. We were the seven seed.
We actually dropped games so we could match up with Atlanta.
But right before we played Atlanta, Doc Rivers who was

(01:07:43):
a Popovich disciple, he played under under Pop, So we'll
count them there. We throw that game. You know, the
starting line it was like, you know, me, Avery Bradley,
Marquis Daniels, Key on dueling, you know. And since we
threw the game, we compete. Actually we competed with them,
don't get be wrong with their starters. So then we
didn't just throw the game, Doug, but we didn't end

(01:08:04):
up winning. But then once you get to the bench,
it's even further that, right exactly, because we knew when
we were going to match up with them in the playoffs,
they weren't going to see what we had. Now, don't
be surprised if DC Rivers stoles that out. That something
characteristically I played for Doc. He's done that in the
past and I understand it. But there is an element
where you do need the psychological edge. If I'm not mistaken,

(01:08:27):
Kawaii Leonard is shooting under in the bubble. He's got
to work his way back in the rhythm. It's important
for Kawahi Leonard. So I don't think, like I said,
the wins and losses are gonna be good. But when
the team gets too familiar with you, Doug, that's absolutely
a thing. And you played at a high level, you
know how important that is. Ye. Thanks thanks for joining us,

(01:08:47):
Dude Hill and enjoy your commentary. Laford to catching up
very very soon. Thanks for being our guests on Fox
Sports Radio. Anytime, Brother, you know it, that's Ryan Hollins
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show Fox Sports Radio. Is Lebron James a bad teammate?
An interesting report is suggesting just that I'll share with
you next. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter

(01:09:10):
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. Every day on The Doug Gotlip Show. What
we do is we go through previous shows on Fox
Sports Radio, which are seven. Yes, we'll count Clay Travis.
We probably shouldn't WI count Clay Travis, Dan Patrick, Colin
Cowherd me uh, straight out of Vegas, The Odd Couple,

(01:09:31):
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, Best of Friends, Big Ben Maller.
So we got we had great lineup of shows. From
that we picked the best stuff. We call it. And
now this is Colin Cowherd reacting to report the Lebron
James a bad teammate Henry Abbott, who I know and like.
But what in God's name is going on with Henry?

(01:09:53):
He says, Lebron James the least told story in the NBA.
Is Lebron oppressive, overwhelming and anti social competitiveness. Abbott noted
that James struggles to be around normally motivated, gets inpatient
with those who don't work as hard, little tolerance for mistakes.
In fact, Henry at one point says this this is

(01:10:14):
worth a chuckle. Lebron's current teammate Anthony Davis, maybe softening
him since he has a special affection for the big man.
Wait time, I want Lebron to be more like Anthony
Davis the hell out of here. That's the last thing
I want Lebron to be is that soft. Yeah, I'm sorry, Henry,
I'm sorry, True Hoop magazine, website, whatever you are. We've

(01:10:35):
spent fifteen years comparing Lebron and MJ, mostly doing a
poor job. We finally figured out their match. They're obsessive
because of the players in the NBA are playing for
a paycheck. Lebron's playing for immortality. So is Kobe, So
is Michael So, so are the Great, So is Elon

(01:10:56):
musk So is Jeff Bezos, so is Bill Gates, so
of steep jobs. They're ruthless. They're relentless because they're not
doing it for a paycheck. Um. Look, I think all
of this is first of all, the the idea that
Lebron is a bad teammate. Um, I just I think
he's can be difficult. Star players can be difficult. They

(01:11:20):
just can't. It's one of the things, by the way,
that separates Steph Curry where staff is supposed to be
the world's greatest dude, right, just easy. But Kevin Durant
is difficult, not because he doesn't work hard, but because
he just he does. He has a lot of trust
issues and doesn't trust teammates and coaches and a lot
of people around him. And you know, like when you
grow up without a dad, sometimes that happens Lebron James.

(01:11:42):
I don't think he has trust issues grow up without dad.
Lebron James, though, knows everything he does does it's it's
judged on the microscope. So he pushes other guys because
if they fail, the other guys can take the blame.
But it goes down on Lebron's resume. Like I understand
that he can be difficult. He can be aloof um, standoffish.

(01:12:03):
You know. His thing is when when he's done with
a guy, he just doesn't. He doesn't mess with him.
He runs hot and cold with some guys. Does mess
with guys that he does. There's a lot of he's interesting.
But if if if not having time for inferior attitudes
makes him a bad teammate, well I got I know
somebody in broadcasting he's just like that who's this absolute

(01:12:25):
star doesn't work for Fox, just to point that out.
Absolute star, and he's somebody who doesn't have to have
time for it. I think all of us struggle with
people who aren't pulling pulling their weight, right. You ever
done a group presentation and one guy doesn't show up
and then wants to show up day of the presentation
and then act like he knows what he's what? What
am I supposed to say? And then he gets credit
for the a that you worked hard for. Lebron doesn't

(01:12:46):
want that either, So you know, could he be gentler? Yes?
Could he be more verbal in what he desires of guys? Sure? Does?
He kind of had his own thing going. He's got
basically got his own hotel right now, and you know, nobody,
very few guys come and hang with him. Absolutely, but
he's not. If don't don't mistaken difficult for impossible. Difficult

(01:13:10):
means you can be worked with. Impossible is like I
just nobody can do it, And um, Jordan was difficult,
not impossible. Kobe was seen as kind of impossible, And
I would say Lebron is more in the difficult category
than the impossible category. Makes sense? I hope it does.

(01:13:32):
Felt like it made sense to me. I don't know
the time. I got a great third hour of the
show for you. Upcoming should be a lot of fun.
Plus we're gonna get ready, were gonna pick the games tonight?
Have you guys seen the lines? Are gonna pick the
games tonight? That should be Yeah, so we get we're
like an hour and a half away from NBA basketball
being back on television like real NBA basketball, which is

(01:13:53):
there's a little bit of you know, there's a little
bit of um of Major League Baseball to where you're
gonna turn on and be like mass good to feel
it and then you're like, oh, yeah, there's there's there's
moments wheres boring? That's right, moments where's boring? Yeah, I forgot.
I forgot that that you have to play the backups.
I forgot that there's no fans there. There'll be a

(01:14:13):
lot of people tune in that haven't seen the setup
with the fake fans in the background. Good amount. Yes,
Ryan Music, have you seen what's been sort of going
on with Zion Williamson and whether or not he's supposed
to be a game time decision tonight? And I just
saw this from Mark Medina who's in the bubble covering
the NBA. Alvin Gentry said it's not clear what medical

(01:14:35):
restriction Zion will face. First step is for him to
be clear to play. What am I missing in terms
of how cautious there being was Zion? Because he's cleared quarantine,
So what physically what is supposed to be holding him
back from playing? I'm I am I missing something or
what's going on here? I don't know when did he
clear quarantine? Uh? It was I think his first practice

(01:14:58):
was Tuesday night, Tuesday. I I mean, so I would guess.
You know, he was off for a week or so.
Right he flew to New Orlean, he flew home to
South Carolina. I think we don't know what he actually
did or there's no telling where he actually went or
why he needed time away. They you know, you say
family and he's like okay, no idea. UM, it just
feels like incredibly cautious. I don't know, maybe critical. Yeah,

(01:15:22):
I mean Colin actually talked about this day. We're just like, man,
I get he's twenty years old, but he's not He's
not a China doll. You know, he's not that brittle. Um,
So I don't know man, I do feel like they're
overly cautious and he wasn't. We were told he was

(01:15:42):
in this great shape and then he's gone for a week,
And did he fall out of shape that quickly? Did
he not work out when he went home? Like what happened?
But but if you're off for a week and you
come back, you practice Tuesday Wednesdays, you know, like a
very light workout. I think he plays tonight, but I
think that's they're just cautious about do we want to
him out there for thirty minutes when he's been he

(01:16:03):
was off for a week, and then he only practiced
for a day and a half, and he might not
have gone hard, you know, Tuesday or even wednesdayay before
the game. Guys don't usually go hard. So I don't know. Um,
but yes, they've been super crazy cautious. But when you've
been injured as much as he's been injured in a
short period time, I think you'd be cautious too. You'd
be cautious too. Jim Jackson joined the show coming next.

(01:16:24):
I'll ask him what he expects him tonight. Um, how
the veterans are going to manage their minutes? Does this
bring guys closer too close? Is Lebron a bad teammate? Um?
How much pressure on the Bucks to keep you be
honest they're gonna win? And why Kauai can't hit a shot?
All that? Next The Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

(01:16:46):
Gotlap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio a
app What Doug Gotlap Show, Fox Sports Radio. Man, I
hope you're having a good day. It's a beautiful Sundaday
in southern California, and maybe that's I'm just I'm fired
up because basketball's back. Basketball's back, you know, And when

(01:17:10):
basketball is back, I get to talk to really good,
cool basketball people. Nobody cooler than the coolest cat there is.
Jim Jackson will join us in a second. Look. Um,
we got some Major League Baseball stuff where you get
some football thoughts for you. But the NBA is back.
We got in what an hour and a half, you
have the Pelicans taken on the Jazz and followed up

(01:17:30):
surely thereafter by the Lakers taken on the Clippers. To
get it there in in quarantine, no one's tested positive.
But you do have three Clippers missing. Pat Everley's back,
but I don't believe he'll play tonight. And then you
got Lou Williams, who's got that ten game uh ten
day quarantine because he got some got some wings from
Magic City in Atlanta. And then we have Mantres Harrow

(01:17:52):
who's not there. And I don't know what tonight means.
I feel like the Lakers to me, the lake Your's
season is gonna come down, not just to Lebron and
to Anthony Davis, but they're gonna need that third guy.
I'm fascinated by how Kyle Kuzma plays. First scrimmage game,

(01:18:14):
he did not look good. Second scrimmage game, he looked excellent.
Now he's still a little bit lost offensively. That's kind
of cous one oh one. And and the previous version
of Lebron James, maybe five years ago, could do that
because Lebron was an elite defender. He's not what he
used to be defensively, an think Davis is, and they
have plenty of big guys to block shots, but who's
just gets lost sometimes and Lebron gets a little bit,

(01:18:35):
you know, twisted up because he's not as athletic as
he used to be. But I feel like Ko's and
then you know who's going to be their playmaking guard
in the fourth quarter. Where's the Clippers. You've got a
better sense of they know who they are. Lou Williams
will return to his six man role whenever he returns.

(01:18:57):
You know, there's some limitations to Pat Beverley, but he's
the and soul of that team. So when he returns,
he returns the heart and soul. I'm interested by Kauai
why does But maybe most interesting is veterans in this league.
It's it's a different way of looking at the sport.
I think we're all going to look at the sports
scores and maybe lineups, but you have to you have

(01:19:17):
to be cautious of how you get yourself, how you
play yourself into playoff level conditioning. Nobody knows that better
than Jim Jackson played the playoffs, played a decade or
so in the NBA, two time MR Basketball in State
of Ohio, All American Ohio state. Of course. You see
him on Fox Sports and on Turner covering the NBA
and covering college basketball. If if you were Lebron, is

(01:19:39):
there a is there a magic number of minutes tonight.
Do you want to go all out tonight and then
dial it back closer to the playoffs, or do you
want to do the slow build up thing? Uh? Well, dog,
you know Lebron. I mean we've always talked about limiting
minutes for him, uh in the back half of the career,

(01:20:00):
and where has that gone? Ain't going anywhere because Lebron
James wants to play. He put himself in a position
you understand, is that as an athlete, your job is
to go out there and play and compete and understand
how to put your body in the best situation so
you can perform. Lebron James has done that throughout his career,

(01:20:20):
and I agree with you. He's not as athletic as
he was before, but he's methodical and what he does
offensively and defensively, he understands when the pick and choose
a spot. So if he plays thirty seven thirty eight minutes,
they're not your prototypical, all out hard thirty eight minutes
because now he's able to dissect the game a little
bit differently, attack when he needs to, fall back when

(01:20:44):
he has to, but still have the energy in the
fourth quarter to make the necessary plays offensively and defensively
that allows his teams to win. So I don't I
don't look at the minutes the number. I look at
how those minutes are being played. Okay, So I mean,
do you I guess the question? Do you play to win?

(01:21:04):
You know, you get you get in the fourth quarter
and Lebron has been playing well, he's been sharp. You know,
do you get like, let's just see him with what's
we have. There's no real point to winning these games.
There's no home court advantage, and a game here, a
game they want to affect their seed in terms of
who they play right right now, they play the eight seed.
You know, maybe they maybe they want to lose in
order to get closer to maybe decide if they want

(01:21:25):
to play the eight seed, if they want to play
the seventh seed. I guess if you're Frank Vogel, do
you play to win or do you just play until
he's sharp and then you you see him? You play
to win? And I think it's important too because it's
the Clippers, because you remember Game one it was just
talk about the Lakers and Clippers where Paul George didn't play,
and guess who won the game he was the Clippers,
so the whole talkers about the Clippers are better than

(01:21:47):
the Lakers, and even though the Lakers have been playing
better basketball right before you know, the season got halted.
I think it's very important mentally that if you don't
have three of your best players, if you're the Clippers
that are not playing, and you're still able to beat
a Los Angeles team, that gives you something. I just
think it's mentally important for and if you want to

(01:22:10):
be the best. To me, I look at the teams
that have won and taking care of their business. Especially
if there's a so called rival or somebody that's you know,
maybe walking up that letter as arrival, you want to
beat them. I don't care, because if they have five
players planning, you still want to send the message that
we're here. We're the team that you're gonna have to

(01:22:30):
go through in order to get a championship. But I
don't care if you're missing two, three, four or five players,
We're still gonna win this game. Jim and Jackson joined
us in the Doug Outlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. UM,
what do you like? What do you think about the
lou Williams thing? Like? I I get it. I do
understand that, you know, Lose always kind of beat into

(01:22:51):
his own drummer, but there is an amount of self
and his selfishness not just for for himself, but also
his eMates and even the sport. Like again, I'm not
a moral list in terms of has honestly has nothing
to do with going to a strip club. I don't care.
It's just more of the idea of like, hey, dude,
like we're trying to protect this sport and you know

(01:23:14):
you're just going to your favorite restaurant when you know
you can't go there. Um, I see it as really
as fun as the story is, it does strike me
as super selfish and could have affected the entire sport. Yeah. Yeah,
But here's a question also to let's say his favorite
restaurant was Papados and he goes to Papados, would we

(01:23:36):
still be having the same conversation because it's semantics now, Okay,
and I lived in Atlanta. I got married in Atlanta.
I understand the difference there when they how people view
strip clubs. And I'm not making an excuse, but a
lot of people do go and say I'm going to
grab something eat. Okay, women do that. But I'm not
making an excuse, but I'm saying, is there a different conversation.

(01:23:59):
I Lou Williams was had a photograph at a restaurant
that may have been his favorite, that was in a
strip club. Yeah, but if he if he's supposed to
be filling protocol, you're not supposed to do any of
that stuff. Well, I I get the photo. I understand
the photo. Now, trust me, I get where you're going.
Because the bigger picture is what you don't want to do,

(01:24:21):
is everything that's going where The NBA has done a
phenomenal job of putting this bubble together, which I had
to go down to on the four team. Okay, putting
this bubble together to ensure this health and safety of
everybody involved. So you would think that from a player's perspective,
you would say, Okay, I have a funeral to go

(01:24:42):
to and let me get in and out to ensure
that I can get back to this bubble healthy and
not jeopardizing the team. And I think that's where the
issue comes in at because you did put but he's
gonna live. It's like, you know, guys are gonna go
out to a restaurant even when you're in the ball.
It's places that you can go that public people maybe,

(01:25:03):
but you gotta be careful. You just have to be
careful and pick and choose your spots. Jimmy Jackson joining
us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
can you take anything from what we've seen? Because because
what we've seen, Lakers look focused. Kuzman was bad, then good,
Kauai hasn't shot the ball well, Bucks look amazing. But

(01:25:25):
like you've you've been around this a long time, playing
and now covering it. Can we legitimately take anything from
what we've seen in these scrimmages. I mean a little
bit you can do? You can you can take the
mindset the Lakers think about this. Lebron has always had
some kind of drama around the season situation. We don't
hear any of that right now. You know this, This

(01:25:47):
Laker team is really quiet, which says a lot about
I think leadership. Um, they're focused on what they want
to do. Um. That's a lot of talk going around
the Clippers because of what's happened. But you can from
one thing I think is did guys take the time
off serious enough to keep themselves in shape? And a
lot of teams and players came back in phenomenal shape

(01:26:10):
that you know how hard it here is to play
and stop and try to jump back into gear where
you were just at. It's you know, it's extremely hard
to get in basketball shape. But these guys did a
phenomenal job. Now it's not gonna be pretty, I don't
think right away, maybe the first two games. But the
teams that I think, to me are are extremely focused

(01:26:33):
are the ones that are gonna put themselves in the
situation once we get to the playoffs that they're gonna
be a level ahead everybody, not just physically dug and
we talked about this before. It's the teams that are
mentally prepared to go through the grind, the mundane, everyday,
same situation, same scenery, but maintain their focus in order
to go out to perform their best. Jim Jackson, our

(01:26:54):
guest and the Doug out Lip Shawn Fox Sports Radio.
Tom Thibodeau a good hire for the Knicks. I think
he was a safe higher I believe he was a
safe higher um. Again, the connection with Leon rose when
Leon was there as an executive and Tom was there
as the assistant coach. Again, you know the familiarity, you
know how it is if if I'm not happy with

(01:27:16):
the pool that I have and who's the best out
of this pool? Okay? And I think for them there
was a level of comfort with time, tip of or not.
But it all goes back to also to what is
the organization's gonna do. Okay, you've got future draft rights,
you know, from the first round picked in two futures
from first round picked from the Clippers and some tuosers

(01:27:37):
from the Maverick. How do you build out that roster?
How do you build out enough players to make a
viable run in the East to be credible again. So
it's not just on time even not. I think his
philosophies have to change a little bit because this is
a different time. We saw the struggles he had in Minnesota,
especially with some of his young players. Tom is gonna

(01:27:57):
have to adjust. He was my coach assistant coaching Houston.
Loved him to death, but that grind that pound. He's young,
he's young, men don't respond the same way. So as
a coach, he's gonna have to make an adjustment. So
I think it's incumbent, not only from Tom Thibodeaux, but
also the management aspect of what the Knicks are gonna do,
how they're gonna buil out the rosters. Yeah, I would agree,

(01:28:19):
And I think he's better when he's just he's coaching
and helping advise, but not actually not actually picking. It's
it's like too much power. Was the old expression is
absolute power crups absolutely. Jim Jackson, our guest in the
doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, are
you a buyer into the new Ben Simmons shooting threes? No?

(01:28:41):
Only because of this is does last summer. It was
all the stilm and footage him And I say this
about players a lot, All this footage about Ben Simmons
putting in the work shooting threes. Okay, he's shooting more
in practice, but until he actually meant till league gets
over that hurdle of not having self confidence in that shot,

(01:29:04):
he can work on it all day long. But what
I've seen is that he gets himself into a game situation,
misses one badly, and all the work that he's put
in doesn't mean anything because now he abandons all of
that work. So to me it sounds good. I want
to see him be more consistent and having more confidence
to take the shot because you put in all that work,

(01:29:27):
so why leave it on the practice floor. So we've
seen it in the past, it sounds good. I want
to see the consistency in his confidence to be able
to take those shots, especially when he misses badly. To
see if he comes back when he has an open
one and then steps right up and takes that shot. Yeah,
I'm I'm with you. I don't I think you almost
take him out when he doesn't shoot. You know, if

(01:29:49):
he's got a good, clean looking yes, yes, take him
only doesn't shoot. That's that's what changed. Actually, my my
top my professional careers. I I start with that all
in college. I'd lost all my confidence and I had
a guy named mass Track who has been assisted in
the NBA. He was like, when you don't shoot a
wide open step in jump shot, I'm just gonna take

(01:30:09):
you out, and he did, and you know, I was like,
I I hated coming out more than anything else. So
I started shooting. And then eventually you get to where
you you do kind of breakthrough some of that mentally. Um, okay,
so Philly, I mean, look that season I did really
really well, but there's always some regression, and then I
stopped playing pretty soon afterwards, but I've I still kind

(01:30:32):
of regret. It's a it's a it's a battle. It
was a battle for for me. It just I don't
know it's said it. It came on when I was
a Notre Dame as a freshman, and it would come
and go, and it was just really hard to overcome,
like stage fright. Jim Jackson are guest in the Doug
Gautlum Show. Um Boston, Philly, Toronto. Who does Milwaukee least

(01:30:55):
want to see out of those three? Toronto, I believe
because there's some still question marks on Boston and also
Philly in regards to who they are as a team. Okay,
because with Philly now moving and shifting them to the four,
you have Shake Bilton at the one. They still don't

(01:31:17):
have shooters around the perimeter except Cork Mars maybe and
if Tobia's hairs gets hot, so you know, you can
deal with that. It's something about this Toronto team, Doug,
that being where they're at in the Eastern Conference. Okay,
you're the top of the ladder, going through all the injuries,
losing Kauaid, but yet still they played just as good

(01:31:38):
on the road as they did at home. This is
a team that has figured out who they are and
they're not strain from that. It doesn't have to be
one person who is gonna be a collective group of guys, professionals.
They're gonna play extremely hard. Nick Nurse has shown the
Whares that he's a great xs and oh coach puts
those guys in positions to be successful. So if I'm Milwaukee,

(01:32:02):
I don't mind playing Boston. I know they've got a
small line of sometimes we gotta match up with Okay,
Jilly in bead, Okay, that's okay, it's the Raptors. Then
if I look at a team and say they're discipline,
they're determined, they have veteran leadership, and they have a
really great coach on the bitch, and they're determined to

(01:32:24):
prove that last year was in the flute. Jim Jackson
are guesting the Doug Gotlive Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay,
last thing, do you see shock stuck in traffic? He
missed the opening of the show. It don't I didn't
see it that. It don't surprise me, don't surprise you.
But I'm surprised you had a siren in the car man. Yeah,

(01:32:50):
I don't understand that. Why the guys are wearing masks
that are on TV inside the bubble, Well, I don't
understand when they're doing the interviews. I can when you're
walking around, you know what I mean that I can
see that part. No, that's what I'm saying. Like I'm
watching Jared Greenberg. He's on TV. Okay, so there's nobody
close to him. He's obviously tested negative, otherwise he wouldn't

(01:33:12):
be able to be in the bubble. Everybody's tested negative,
and then he has a mask on. I know, I don't.
I don't. When I go down, I'm gonna get that
answer for you. Okay, all right, I appreciate no golf,
no golf, no golf on quarantine. Now you can work
on your swing in the road. No, no, no, no
no no. Within the bubble. There are a couple of

(01:33:33):
golf course. No, I understand that. But when you're in quarantine,
when you first get there, you first get there, you're
you're in your room and you can't leave your room
except to be tested. So it's like four days of
like nothing. But you know what, here's the thing. It's
like it's almost like when quarantine first started, it was
the same kind of thing. I didn't really leave the house,
so I figured out what I needed to do. Look,

(01:33:56):
I got my cigar, so I'm fine. All right, there's
no smoke what no smoking room? No? No, we mean
that's impossible. There is always a smoking room when you
got a balcony. What do you mean, I don't know
you have a balcony. But if you don't have a balcony,
you're like, there's gonna be a balcony, Like you're not
Lebron James Townhouse. Why are you trying to do this
to me? I mean, I don't understand why you're trying

(01:34:16):
to make this just. I mean I'm just I'm just
telling you really really uncomfortable, really uncountable. No No, it's not. No,
it's no, it's not. Well that's because you have it
you got. I'm gonna make it work. Uh okay, I'm
gonna send your picture of me having a cigar on
my day. All right. Well, look, you you got a

(01:34:39):
young one at home, So going to quarantine for like
four days, you get to sleep, Like, what what do
you do? Like? I slept the whole time, the whole time.
Thanks so much, Jim. Alright, I want only Jim Jackson
joining us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Uh fun, that was really fun. I I could do that.

(01:35:00):
I could do the four days like. There are people
and I'm I'm a busy body, right, like I go
from one thing to the next. I'm a busy body.
There's now a possible way under any circumstances. There's there's
no possible way, under any circumstances that Lamar Jackson is
a better player than Patrick Mahomes with the exception of

(01:35:20):
one list. And that's a pretty big list. And I'll
explain next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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I do believe you can't fool players. So maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe I'm maybe I'm the idiot. Okay, Like players can

(01:35:44):
tell you, like dude that dude cannot play, can't do it.
Players are the ones who told me, like, it's not
that Kirk Cousins can't play. It said he gets so
tight he's so badly wants to succeed that in those
prime time games. It's just too tight, too tight. But

(01:36:04):
um ah, you know, I I look and I see
and I feel um that this is a prisoner of
the moment moment for NFL players. The NFL Network released
their top hundred players, as voted on by the players themselves,

(01:36:25):
and the number one player was Lamar Jackson. Now, maybe
guys just went like, hey, who had the best season
last year and Lamar Jackson was the was the m
v P and they had the number one seed. But
Lamar Jackson is not a better player currently, previously, or
likely this year than Patrick Mahomes. Nobody believes that, or
I thought nobody believed that until I looked at this poll.

(01:36:45):
And honestly, if you were gonna start a team, you
wouldn't You wouldn't take him ahead of Russell Wilson, you
wouldn't take him ahead of Aaron Rodgers. And it doesn't
mean that you don't think he's awesome. But those guys
are amazing and they can clearly do it. Like just
the difference in one guy gets behind in two playoff
games and they can't even get close to getting the
lead again. Another guy gets behind in every playoff game

(01:37:08):
this year and comes back and wins the Super Bowl.
Like there's Pat Mahomes he started two years and through
fifty touchdown passes two years ago. Like he's a freak.
And if you want to say, well, you know, he's
got Andy Reid that helps him. He's got great players
around him that helps him. But the offense that the
Ravens have his tailor made for Lamar Jackson and they

(01:37:29):
have great personnel around We're doing this thing we did
with Cam Newton. You know, Kim new was never the
best quarterback of the best player in the sport. Ye
had he won the m v P. They go to
the Super Bowl and he got voted the number one
player in two thousand and sixteen after the two thousand
fifteen season. I mean, at least Cam Newton playing the
Super Bowl. This dude hasn't won a playoff game yet,

(01:37:50):
and it's not And the playoff thing can be misleading, right,
Like you can say, well, you don't want a playoff game, like,
all right, but did he play well in the playoff game?
You know? But in Lamar Jackson's case, the answer is no,
not really, he looked really really tightened both of them,
and he was the reason they are behind in both
the playoff games the past two years. And I'm not
even gonna hold against him the Chargers game, but the

(01:38:11):
Chargers game is indicative of once a team sees him,
they start to adjust if they have the right personnel,
and I do think there's gonna be some adjustment. Dan
Buyer is the perfect guy for this. So Dan of
course has his Sunday show here on Fox Sports Tradeo.
You hear him all across our dial locally, nationally, does
does everything. And Dan's also a huge Seahawks fan. Um,

(01:38:32):
can can you see away in which you go like, yeah,
I would take Lamar Jackson ahead of Russell Wilson to
answer that question, maybe, but I would probably go with
Russell Wilson like that. There there could be maybe something
you could try to convince me. But if I had
to pick the two, I would take Russell Wilson, all right,
Pat Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers or

(01:38:56):
Lamar Jackson and Rodgers Now though, okay, I understand there
six years Yeah, yeah, I'd probably take Lamar Jackson. Okay,
I mean it's interesting, Like, again, I don't want to
put everything on the playoffs, but like we are in
a year in which Aaron Rodgers just got to the
NFC Championship game, right, that did happen? So granted they

(01:39:18):
got stomped um And you know one thing was he
he really started, he started to get a rhythm there after.
He was bad in the first half, but he was
bad much the way that Mahomes was bad in the
Super Bowl. That that that pass rush from the Niners
just had him completely rattled, as he has anybody rattled.
But may maybe I'll make an excuse for Aaron Rodgers
and that he didn't play well in the first half.

(01:39:39):
I just I don't think that it's a stretch for
Lamar Jackson to be number one when he was the
m v P, Like, like, isn't that what the voting
is for. It's about the season that they just had,
and so when you're the most Valuable player, I think
I could say, Okay, now, maybe long term we'd take
all those other players or if everything was perfect last season,

(01:40:01):
meaning Patrick Mahomes being healthy and this and that, But
I don't think that that's what this was about. I
thought that this was about that that season of last
year where Lamar Jackson was named the most Valuable Player.
So I think that there's there's he has an he
has a good case to be number one, because that's
what we're using to establish this one ranking. Yeah, but

(01:40:25):
but it's also okay, they they're gonna play, You're gonna
play a game Sunday. You can play a game Sunday.
Who do you want to be your quarterback? Yeah? I would.
I would take Patrick Mahomes. But if I had to,
you know, if you're looking back at the body of
work that he had a great he had a great season,
you're you're you're you're making a sound your argument is sound.
I think what that with the idea of it is

(01:40:47):
a little different. I think the idea of it is
forget the awards and whatever. It's like, sure, do you
actually think is better? Yeah? And I think most people
think like Mahomes is better, Rogers better. Uh. And And
you know, I don't think Breezes anywhere. I don't think
he's I do think that the fact that Lamar is
in that discussion. Look, I talked to the NFL front
office guy a couple of weeks ago and we were

(01:41:09):
talking about this, and he's like, look, the fear with
Lamar was that he was he was inaccurate. Um was
also like, he's not you know, he wasn't seen to
be like a super verbal guy, or you know, you
weren't gonna put him in a pro style offense right
away or maybe even ever. And those guys, those offenses
have limitations and when they try to evolve, uh, they

(01:41:31):
can struggle. We saw that with r G three. And
then when they get injured, which which happens very often,
they can. They also struggle because the things they used
to do to get away with people, get away from
people with their legs, they can no longer do anymore. So.
But but it's like one of those like well, while
at last it's amazing, it's just you gotta be really
careful about that second contract. If he's still taking, if

(01:41:53):
he's taken shots, you know, like you're you're one cut
away or one hit away. It feels like for dramatic,
which you could say that about anybody. Alex Smith for example,
who's also, by the way, really underrated athlete. But the
difference is that Alex Smith, though he can run, it's
if you can have just simply pocket mobility can still

(01:42:13):
be himself. Now there's a massive drop off between the
top of Alex Smith and the top of Lamar Jackson.
But Alex Smith was a really good quarterback for six
seven years, and uh, most of it's because of he's athletic,
but pocket athletic more than just freak athlete like Lamar Jackson.
I did. I do give the the players and coaches
credit for having Russell Wilson number two, because I think

(01:42:37):
you could have made an argument last year through the
first half of the season that Russell Wilson was the
m v P and then Lamar just ended up taking
I did, I did make that argument. You're whatever. Yeah,
I mean I I remember I told those guys, you know,
even before shows, we would have probably on a Monday
after a Seahawks game, that nobody would pay attention to
um the meaning and not saying us, but just you know,

(01:42:59):
many others. I understand what you're saying. The Seahawks are
a weird team, right, Like on those Sunday night games
or Monday night games we watched them, and then every
other game does seem kind of the same, right, like
close game, fairly little scoring, Russell Wilson running around making
a play at the end of the game. If they
catch it, he wins. That they don't catch it, they lose.
Like every game is I couldn't imagine being a Seahawks
fans very exhilarating, but it is one of those places

(01:43:20):
where we don't. Like the Cowboys got get a lot
more attention. They're not as good a football team. You know,
it was a good quarterback, right? The who else was
like that? Like the Jets, the Browns, the Browns, the Jets,
like these these joke franchises. Rather they've been a joker franchise.
The Browns thing. I'm not really sure I understand other

(01:43:40):
than the big names the Jets. It's because I think
a lot of broadcasters are Jets fans. Jets are used
to play people forget. They used to play on Long Island,
used to play at Chase Stadium, and so they were
like Long Island's team, and a lot of broadcasters grew
up a Long Island root for the Jets, right, you
know this Jets of my team. I like the Giants.
Giants a bunch of arrogant Aohle's right. So the Jets

(01:44:01):
were more like people in Jersey like the Jets and
people on Long Island like, uh, like the Jets from
from the old days, right, and whereas everybody else, you know,
the Giants are the more powerful kind of regal. They've
won Super Bowls, etcetera. Um we do. We talk about
the Jets a ton about the Browns a ton um
Cowboys obviously, Patriots well deserved, you know, Patriots well deserved,

(01:44:25):
Packers well deserved, right, historic franchise. Well, you know, it's
funny with the rankings because like when you looked at
earlier and I think we touched nothing earlier this week,
but Odell Beckham Jr. Was higher than Jarvis Landry on
this list, And when you look back at their season,
I don't think that there was any way that you
could say that, oh, b J Was better or more

(01:44:45):
valuable or meant more to the Browns than Jarvis Landry did.
Now that ranking happened to be around fifty nine and
sixty I think it was fifty nine and sixty one.
But then all of a sudden, it's it's like there
are different rules for different spots in the rankings. Most
of okay, it's okay here, but it's not okay here
and it's allowed here but not there. That's what you
get when you rank a hundred of anything. This is

(01:45:08):
very very true. This is very very true. That's Dan
Buyer music. Where where are you on this? If you're
gonna play a football game on Sunday, who's your quarterback? Yeah,
it's gonna be Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson. If we're talking
just in the immediate future, I would probably go Aaron Rodgers,
maybe even Tom Brady before I went to Lamar Jackson.

(01:45:30):
But if we're gonna do the ten uere window, then
I would definitely go Lamar Jackson. Third. Potentially, would you
put Lamar Jackson ahead of Deshaun Watson, I would, just
because Deshaun Watson's already had two knee injuries. So if
that if the long term play is to bet on

(01:45:51):
someone's health, I know. But what about this week Like
we we've we've kind of got like you're gonna win
a game this weekend. Yeah, that's tough. You don't win
a game this weekend, And I go, okay, there's two
guys lets to pick for quarterback, and once the Shawn Watson,
one's Lamar Jackson, who you're picking. Yikes, that's a really
tough question. I may go Deshaun Watsona. I love DeShawn Watson. Yeah,

(01:46:13):
I do too. I he he checks a lot of
the boxes. He is not the freak athlete that Lamar is,
but he does a lot of the things that the
other things that Lamar does a little bit better. I
don't think he throws as good a deep ball, but
he those are very good deep ball. But he's you know,
he's elusive, he's a leader, he's tough. I mean, do
play with the collapse lung right like, and he was

(01:46:36):
like half blinded when he got kicked in the eye
earlier this year. Yeah, there's also something about him that
doesn't say panic ever. Like even when he had that
scramble that was for like what you know, fifteen twenty seconds,
You're like it it's still almost seems like it's under control,
even though it's absolute helter skelter. And I think that

(01:46:57):
there are very few few players alone athletes that can
have that that trait, and Deshaun Watson has it. What
about you, Ramos Ramis is sitting there going I want
to get into this one, Jared Jared Goff, Yes, I
actually in my head, said Jared Goff. I'm glad you
guys do that out there. No, I agree. I think
that my homes is definitely one and uh I put

(01:47:19):
Lamar Jackson three and Aaron. Everything that you guys have said,
I think is all properly set in the correct way. Well,
thank you, thank you for green with agreeing you are
to agree. The weird thing was we all had different answers.
So here I know he just he wasn't paying attention.
I was. But it's like John's like, look at the

(01:47:40):
time past the hour. Gottlieb clock integrity, clock integrity, sound
like Scotch Shapiro, right, clock integrity. Alright, alright, the SEC
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Big ten? Find out next. Be sure to catch the
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(01:48:06):
The first thing I want to know, not only from you,
but everyone else. We all kind of live in different places.
Did you all feel the earthquake? I did not. I
slept through it. Did you feel it last night or
this morning? Don um? I'm an Orange County but aways
John Romins, there was one that was near the studio.

(01:48:27):
I think that four point five is what they said.
But uh yeah, so just just up the four oh
five from here. But I did not feel it. I
slept through it. My wife did wake up. I'm not
sure Ryan did not. John Ronaldson, did you that a negative? Okay?
And so none of us did. Just curious because there's
a big news, you know, the big news on Twitter

(01:48:49):
for everybody that likes the Yell earthquake. Alright, let's get
to the big news. College football. SEC has a plan
ten game conference only schedule start Saturday September. The championship
game will be moved to Saturday, December nine, mid season
open date for each school, an open date of December
twelve for all schools if they need to change. That's

(01:49:09):
the SEC's plan right now to play college football this fall. Okay,
give it to me against slow down here on it. Okay.
So they're gonna have ten ten conference games, no non
conference season, not starting until September. That's late. Yeah. SEC
championship game moved to December nineteen. Not much of a surprise.
Side note, Doug, but a lot of the small bowls

(01:49:30):
aren't going to be taking place for obvious reasons. But
but you know those are gonna be wiped out. Mid
season open date for each schools and an open date
for December twelve for all schools in case they need
to maybe they can't start on September twenty six, then
they could move those games to December twelve if needed. Okay,

(01:49:51):
I mean, you know, the late start is a little
deceiving because you don't have the nonconference games right. Um.
What's interesting though, is like they're they're doing the late
start because they're not ready to go, and they got
to put all the protocols and in place. They didn't
have spring football either. On the other hand, we were
told like the later you get more dangerous it is
for the second wave, So that become a problem. I

(01:50:12):
will say this. This is a conference that has had
you know, Georgia South Carolina play like you know, the
second week of the season. We we criticize Alabama for
having the cupcake before the Iron Bowl. You know, that
will not be allowed the Big Ten. According to the
Chicago Tribune, dug could release their plan at any point

(01:50:32):
between tomorrow and late next week. Now. The Tribune says
that the Big ten is still deciding between a nine
and ten game schedule that would start Labor Day weekend,
but have three to five open dates for schools throughout
the season. And what's interesting is they want to get
their divisional games out of the way because they want

(01:50:53):
to have less travel early on in the season. So
you could have Michigan Ohio State being played in septem
Member or October, as they are both in the East Division.
It's one of the good things the Big Ten is
like they it's a it's a very smart league, right,
just well, all they have a new commissioner, brilliant guy.

(01:51:13):
It's just a yeah, I mean very smart league, in
which it doesn't mean that the SEC is a dumb league, right,
I'm just their their their thought presses ago when it's like, hey,
let's have more weeks off that way of kids. You know,
if you test the Monday or Monday after a Saturday
game and guys pop up sick, well then we can
quarantine them and maybe they can be ready for the

(01:51:33):
next game or just miss one game, right, Like that's
the thinking behind it, because so much of this is
un uncharted territory. Like I I think that's a really
smart plan. It doesn't surprise me. I feel like the
Big ten has been ahead of the curve and a
lot of this stuff. If you did every other every
other week with the game, it would be a way
to handle it. If there were positive tests on your team, right,

(01:51:54):
So guy tests, I mean, you know they're supposingly can
test once a week. But my guess is, you know
if you test on a Thursday before a game, or
a Friday or maybe even Saturday before because you know,
they get the results back really quickly depending on the
quality of the test. But and a guy pops up positive,
you remove him, you know, before he's around the rest
of the team. I don't know, I I do it
gives you a much better chance of having more football

(01:52:17):
if you have space spacing, as opposed to jamming it
all together. That's what that's the sec thing. It doesn't
make a ton of sense to me pushing it back.
What makes its sense of pushing it back is the
quality of play will be better because they didn't have
spring football. We had a Pelicans and Pella Cants. How
about this zi off or Zion It is Zion Zion
Williamson playing tonight for those Pelicans against the Jazz reports

(01:52:39):
say he will be limited tonight playing in short burst,
but Zion's gonna tip it off coming up at the
bottom of the hour as the NBA season resumes. Short bursts.
I like that. Short bursts, short bursts. This from Let's
Go to the NFL Titans GM. John Robinson says pass
rusher Vic Beasley will be reporting to the team, just

(01:53:00):
hasn't done so yet. Said he expects Beasley to arrive
soon from his unexcused absences as he has missed the
first two days of testing. And uh. One other note
to pass along Phillies Blue Jays this weekend. Not a
not gonna happen, Doug. The two members of the Phillies
organization testing positive for COVID nineteen, so that series won't happen.

(01:53:20):
All activity at Citizens Bank Park in Philly has been
canceled until further notice. Wait, but none of the players
tested positive. Correct? Correct? Well, we don't know yet because
there could be positive test tomorrow or Saturday. Remember they
said they thought the window was Thursday to Saturday, that
there could be exposure. So that's probably why that's the
press get out there and pressed. That was the press.

(01:53:43):
The decisions of the few affect the many. Right, This
is kind of what we talked about, which is that's
really the secret here. I mean, so far as much
as we can say well Baseball has taken a severe
hit because they had the most positive test, the fact
is that none of that would have happened had guys,
you know, not violated protocol. That's what the Marlins did.
I mean, if you read the press release from Major
League Baseball and now you don't go out and go

(01:54:04):
on the road, and now you have like a home
monitor to make sure you don't go to the road,
it shows what what they did, and it's obviously what
they should not have done. What I can't tell you this.
The NBA is back. I expect the Lakers to win
a night. The Clippers are not cohesive, and I think
the Pelicans win tonight. Those are my two picks. Enjoy
the night, Doug otlip Show, Fox Sport Radio,

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