August 4, 2020 • 37 mins
Doug compares Zion Williamson to another star player in the NBA and what it will take for him to reach his full potential. He defends Packers QB Aaron Rodgers and predicts how the media will cover their 2020 season after drafting his heir apparent QB Jordan Love. College Football Insider Brett McMurphy joins the show to tell Doug what the college football season will look like in 2020.
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Baseball on TV. I
think we're gonna have basketball on that too. We have
taskball on that TV. I could can do basketball here
as well. If there's two games going on. Man, we're
watching sports and joint sports, hoping college sports and the
NFL comes back as well. Welcome in Doug Gottlieb Show
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here on Fox Sports Radio. Lakers are the one seed
in the West, which doesn't mean anything except it does
kind of meat something. Right, It's a lot I'll get
to this later on the show. It's a lot like
being ranked number one in the college basketball pole. Right
that that's actually that's exactly what it's like. We'll get
to that. Um watching the Twins and the Pirates, it
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does you know, I I gotta tell you I've been
doing this job at this uh time slot for the
better part of Holy Cow, I'm getting really old. I
just I just kind of realized, John, I'm getting old,
um nearly fifteen years, three different networks, and so I'm
used to in the summer sitting down and hey, what
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baseball games are on? And because you got these big
cardboard cutout big heads in uh Pittsburgh or no, that's
in a target fields in Minnesota, Minneapolis, I don't know.
It feels kind of normal. It feels kind of normal.
It feels like something we've seen before. See it. Speaking
of something we've seen before. Last night, Zion Williamson statistically
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had a great night um in in the bubble, and
I heard Colin cow heard who I was on his
show and who I like a great deal, talk about
Zion is better than everything. Would have thought. This, of course,
comes on the heels of me saying that, um, yesterday
that I thought I thought Zion just looks heavy, looks heavy,
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looks like somebody who is more likely to be hurt
because of how heavy he is, and how disappointed I
am in his inability to maintain his proper conditioning. And
so then I was trying to think if we've seen
Zion Williamson before, we've we've seen and a lot of
people they want to do Rodney Rogers, you know, they
would have more athletic Draymond Green. There's a lot of
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different ways in which you might want to do it.
I think I have the parallel to whose Zion is
and the challenges that are ahead of it. I think
Zion Williamson is closer to Joel em beat And wait, wait,
Joel embat is like seven foot and but one dynamic
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center from Africa. Zion Williamson six five and a half,
ways more but wide like a linebacker or defensive lineman. Like,
this is a totally different dude. Okay, I will give
you that. In terms of their build, their built differently,
but but for positional and size athleticism, they're both off.
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The charge will be fair with that. Like Joel Embiid
has incredible feet and hands an agility for a man
his size. Wait, okay, with that, I would say Zion Williamson,
Zion has incredible athletic ability for a man of his size.
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It's a different build. There's a freakish quality to the athletically. Additionally,
both of the kind of guys like man I would
enjoy just hanging out playing video games for those guys.
Joel's funny, you know. He told people when he went
to Kansas some story about him killing a lion. No
one knows whether it's true or not, but that's kind
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of part of the allure to it. And Zion is
a completely and thoroughly and significantly more likable person than
most anyone who's come down. The shoot from Duke doesn't
mean Duke's got bad guys. It just means, you know,
when I think of Duke, I don't necessarily think that's
a likable group right there. Some of it's the images
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that we painted. Some of it's just the sense that, well,
they've gotta be arrogant because they're so good. They must
know they're so good. Zion made Duke likable. You can't
miss the athletic feats that they have. They have limitless
potential at their position. They are unique, they are athletic,
They have great, big personalities, but they have one massive
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fundamental flaw. I saw Zion. He didn't play much defense
last night, and the more I watched him, the more
become disappointed with where he is right now he's playing
like a He's playing every game like it's an All
Star game, trying to leak out and get dugs. But
I look at Zion and I think, you know, he's
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got to spend whatever it takes, whatever it costs to
have a guy travel with him, hang with him twenty
four hours a day, three sixty five days a year,
that make sure they know what he's eating and what
he's doing to work on his body. We talked about
what about Joel embiad before and Bed could literally be
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the greatest center in the history of the NBA. But
his body has broken down several times over that's limited him.
And his conditioning was a factor last year in the
playoffs and that limited him. And like, whatever it costs,
it's a hundred thousand dollars is two D three. Who
cares like you can make forty fifty million dollars a
year if you achieve the peak of what you should
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be basketball wise, but you cannot get there with whatever
you're currently doing. It's just not good enough. There's no
way to say whatever program diet wise, workout wise, whatever
that the Pelicans have or have allowed Zi Williamson to
operate on is good enough. It's just not. And I'm
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not saying he's ever gonna be a bean pole. I'm
not saying he's ever going to lose fifty pounds, but man,
you gotta lose twenty. You gotta proportionalize it. You gotta
slim up some because that amount of weight, that amount
of torque on that body is just gonna be too
much pressure on the joints, the ligaments, the tendons, all
of that, and the all the soft tissue stuff like
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the muscles. The goal isn't to dominate in twenty five
minutes a game. The goal, you know, and give me
the whole perth thirty six They averages forty game. Now
that's I want him the goal. The goal is to
be able to play thirty five minutes a game, seventy
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five games a year, and play both ends of the floor.
When you can do that, like, that's the secret to
Lebron James. Look, Lebron James a great passer. He's got
an unbelievable body for a man his size. He's got
great dextery. Like he's not super fluid in the hips,
but for six ft eight two d sixty pounds he is.
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But the real key to Lebron's successes. With the exception
of last year's groin injury, he's essentially never been hurt.
And why is that? Some of that is genetic, right,
some of that is genetic, but a good portion of
it is not just his own personal work ethic, but
the fact that he's invested in his body. It's important
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to his diet's important to him. And I've told you
guys the story before, but my dead my late father,
talking about guys that play minor league basketball, there's always
a reason, right, There's always a reason that stars don't
become superstars. And the two things for Zion obviously, development
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of a jump shot is is is going to be massive.
But his body, his physical conditioning, that's the biggest one.
He can catch, he can finish, he can defend if
he wants to. He can pass, and he can lead,
and he can smile. But he can't do these things
well if he's one on the bench, two on I
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R or three sucking for air. When he's playing. Zion's
closer to Joel Embid than anybody else freakish athletic talent.
But until there's a complete buying into what he eats
and how he works out and what his body looks like.
Until that happens, you'll just have these statistical games where
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it appears like he was dominant, but you can't play
him thirty five forty Like, why didn't you play him
thirty five? Because he would have been ridiculously tired, which
is more likely for injury, and you're even worse defensively normally.
Is the reason he's not playing defense now is it's
too exhausting. It's like we it's like we were talking
about him potentially being in the all time greats. You
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can't do that playing twenty five minutes a game. And
at at nineteen years old, twenty years old, you should
be able to play all day without every getting Like,
ask anybody what I was like. Remember what it it was
like when I was twenty years old. I could do
whatever insert whatever man thing it is. I could do
it all day long. I used to, you know, I
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used to get up, you know, used to play pickup ball.
I have a hot dog and a coke, then go
play some more pickup ball, you know, Then go play
some golf, then go lift some weights, then go out
at night, then wake up and do it again right,
that's I mean, twenty years you have, You're indefatigable, you
cannot be tired. And yet here at his youngest point
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in the n b A, he's that he reaches the
point of exhaustion several times in the game. Zion enjoyl
and beat very good comps in terms of freakish athletic
ability and what would separate them from being all time grades?
All right, coming up next, I think I've I think
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I figured out what we're all gonna say about the
Packers next season. And you know, it's actually a path
that's been laid down for them by the New England Patriots.
We'll get to that up coming next. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays
at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
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and the I Heart Radio ah APP. I think most
of you guys now, I'm big and Rodgers fan, right.
Colin likes to let make it like we're like best friends, friendly,
hung out for change text before not really recently whatever,
I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan. I think he's right there.
I mean, like, if I'm gonna, if I want to
win a game, if I want to win a season.
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I you know, outside of Pat Mahomes, you would it
would depend on taste, if you would like Russell Wilson,
who's obviously a little bit younger um or Aaron Rodgers.
And I kind of feel like Russell Wilson is usually
in a better, a different but better, more advantageous for
him situation than Rogers was last year. And that you know,
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he's given kind of carte blanche in the offense, which
is not the style. It looks like how Mike McCarthy
used to allow me, I just get back there and
make a play, and that Aaron Rodgers used to flourish
in that. But I also think it's interesting about what
the Packers are doing, what they're what they're building here,
and why they're building it. This was Aaron Rodgers yesterday
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talking about how he'll handle his future in Green Bay.
I savor every moment every season. I don't take any
of it for granted. I don't know, you know what
the what the future holds. I know I can control
this year and my play and in my roach, in
my attitude. Yeah, I think it's a great way. You know,
only only you can make you happy, and that is
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that seems to be completely and totally accurate, and I
like it's a mature way of looking at it. Here's
Adam Caplin, that's the NFL insider for serious sex and
he joined us yesterday on talking about the Packers offense
in two thousand twenty. Despite Aaron Jones, I know he's
on the finally of his deal. What they love him
number thirty three, They drafted A J. Dillons. So what
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they're gonna do here, Doug. The belief for in the
league is they're gonna be extremely conservative offense. On offense,
this's gonna be a run based offense. It's no longer
to be Aaron Rodgers offense. Um yeah, I mean, like, look,
I think what you have to do is you have
to prepare for some amount of inevitable shift in Aaron
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Rodgers from superstar too superstar brain but not quite the
same guy. Where have we seen this before where a
team changes their focus from being quarterback centrist centric to
trying to run the football shortened the game and then
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at the end of the game you allow your superstar
quarterback to still have enough juice in the tank to
make plays. And and we need those big games. Oh yeah,
by the way, that's the new England Patriots. That's the
new Patriots if you've been paying attention to what they've
done over the past couple of years. When Tom Brady
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was there, they at least in theory, tried to make
themselves a new team that was a power running team,
and then late in the game you got Brady in
the two minute drill doing what Brady does. So I
think it's very interesting that we sit here and criticize
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the the Packers as if they're just completely waving the
white flag on Aaron Rodgers, when a lot of what
they are doing actually, you know, running the foot, being
a power running team and running that's what the Seahawks do.
By the way, as Dan Buyer he's a big Seahawks fan,
there is and follow that up with what the Patriots
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have done or had done around Tom Brady. You want
to take pressure off of a quarterback, run the football.
You want to take pressure off your defense, run the football.
You wanna take pressure off an older quarterback, run the football.
Can't run play action unless you can actually run the ball.
So to me, this is par for the course. You've
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got a quarterback who's gonna turn thirty but seven years old.
Thirty seven years old in December, thirty seven year old Quarterbacks,
though they have the brain of a wizard, at times,
their body doesn't cooperate. You can't. You can't do the
Pat Mahomes dropped back forty times a game. Let him
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run around, just make plays and throw no look passes.
You know you can do that when Aaron Rodgers was
years old and you did, and he was the best
in the game at it, and and he had maybe
not all the weapons, but some of the weapons like
Pat Mahomes has. Now, if you have those guys that
can get open, combined with a quarterback in his prime
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and his prime athletically, you can do those things. So
let let's explain what's gonna happen. He's not gonna have
huge numbers. People are gonna say that he's not the
same quarterback that the league is, that that that that
you know his his coach is taking the ball out
of his hands. And okay, to a to a certain extent,
they did that last year than win thirteen games. So
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if you won thirteen games, I'm going to the NFCY
Championship Game. And really, if Seattle does what they you know,
punch the ball in from one foot line. That game
is at home and who knows if San Francisco even
gets there. That's how close it was. So if you
wanted to only that that doesn't work. I do have
a year of a sample size that says it works,
and that was only in its first year. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
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Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific. So I
get where you're like, dude, Gary Patterson said the N word. Well,
actually he said stop saying the N word. You know,
when all you do is say stop saying the N word,
where we don't say the N word. Brett McMurphy joins
his college football insider Stadium Sports. Is that the way
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you understand that Gary Patterson thing, It sounds like you're
trying to get into a little who's on first right there?
But uh yeah, I mean Patterson said the word instead
of just saying don't say the N word. So his
the problem was he said he actually said the word
instead of saying, don't say the word you're not supposed to,
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you know, the N word, So that that is the issue.
You're right, or that's the that's what happened. What's the
fallout you think? I think it's he's not gonna get fired.
He's apologized, he's UM, you know, they may do something internally,
but uh, you know, look, he's he's either he's either
second or third longest tenured coach behind Kirk Ferrence. Um,
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Mike Gundy's up there with Patterson the top three. So yeah,
I don't think it's a firing offense. He wasn't he
wasn't calling a person that word. He was just saying,
don't use the word. But then he was I don't
mean to laugh, but then he was using it, telling
them not to use it. So you know, certainly he
cannot do this again. You know, that's his one h.
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I don't want to say free pass, but that's the one. Uh,
that's his mulligan and he better not do it again,
and I'm sure he never will. Brett mc murphy joining
us Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. All Right,
where are we Let's let's start with the Big twelve,
right they announced there and the SEC announced kind of
schedule schedules today. How are they the same? How are
they different? The SEC? You know, ten conference games only,
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no non conference games, which means you've got four longstanding
traditional and state rivals rivalry games with the a SEC
that will not be played Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville,
and Florida Florida State. The Big Twelve also does with
ten games, but a little bit different. They will play
nine conference games and then they will play one home
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non conference game. So that's how they get to ten.
Uh certainly they did not want to go to ten
conference games only because they need be playing one opponent twice,
possibly three times if you meet in the Big Twelve
championship game. UM, so you know it's the bottom line
is the smaller group of by schools, some of the
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FCS schools are losing some major pay days. UM. Specifically
for the Big Twelve, we're not gonna see games like
uh L s U in Texas, Oklahoma, will not be
traveling the army, which is one of the best venues
in college football. And now we've got a college football
season where you've got four of the excuse me, yeah,
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four of the conferences, three of the conference for the
conferences playing ten games, and you've got the A c
C playing eleven games, they're going ten conference games in
one non conference game. And then you've got the group
of five leagues who here's they're gonna try to play twelve.
So nobody's gonna have the same number of games. So
if we do have a season, it's gonna be difficult
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enough because we have no nonconference games of merit to
to compare conference schools, and then we have teams playing
different number of games. So hey, look, I'm sure you
would rather be having people complain about unequal schedules or
unfair schedules or cupcake schedules compared with the alternative. And
that's no football. So if that's how you get to
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do it, that that's how they'll do it. Um okay,
So how I mean if you were you are a
betting man, would you bet on on football or no football? Uh?
No football. I'm just I mean, this is not Believe me,
this is not what I want. And I'm not saying
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that they shouldn't play. I'm just trying. I'm trying to
tell you what how I think the presidents will look
at this, and I think it's it's not this simple,
but this is kind of how I see it, the
n c a A today literally could be while we're
on this call or sometime later this afternoon, the n
c A Board of Governors could make a decision on
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the fall sports championships that's soccer, cross country, and volleyball.
That does not impact major college football, because the n
c A does not oversee that, surprisingly enough, but the
thinking is of a lot of ad s that I've
talked to. If the n c A cancels those false
non revenue fall sports champion ships, then how are the
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optics gonna look If these university press and then say, well,
you know what, it's not safe to do these non
revenue sports, but it's okay to play college football, all
the while that it's not safe enough to bring back
the entire student bodies on campus for in person classes.
So I think because of that, I think ultimately that
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we don't play football if the fall spots are canceled.
I think that the Big tim will be the first
league that announces they're not playing football. I think the
other leagues will then follow suit. Although I talked to
a number of a D s um within these specific
conferences and not in these conferences that think if anybody's
going to try to go ahead and play that they
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think the actually the sec in the Big twelve may
try to forge ahead and play even if other leagues
fit it out. Um, certainly that's the decision the presidents
have to make. And I'm not saying it's a writer
or our decision. It's it's a preference of those schools
and those conferences if they think it's it's safe enough
and if there are no major health concerns, um, you know,
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for their student athletes or coaches and Sack Brettman Murphy
joining us in the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, so, um, why would why would the
Big Ten be the first first to cancel? Uh, for
lack of a better term, kind of like a badge
of honor, kind of like, hey, we you know, we
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value our student athletes are the health and safety of
our student athletes more than any other conference. So we're
going to be the leaders and I'm not trying to
pay in their leaders and legends division names from a
few years ago. We're going to be the leaders leaders
of college athletics, and we are not going to play
football because we value our student athletes more than everybody else.
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That's the impression they want to make. I mean, remember
Doug It. Just a few months ago, all of the
Power five leagues or cupposedly in lockstep, they were in
unison kumbaie yah. They were going to announce their schedules,
you know, at the same time, even if those schedules
are going to be different, they were going to make
a united front come out together and announced their schedules together.
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Well that's that plan lasted about forty days, and then
the Big Ten jump the gun. They announced their schedules. First,
We'll look, we're gonna go conference only. We're gonna move
the season back because of the health and safety issues, um, etcetera, etcetera.
So that's why a lot of people think the Big
team will be the first one to do that. And
also keep in mind Kevin Warrant, the Big Tent commissioner,
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you know, in a letter to his his conference athletic
directors a few days ago, you know, when when trying
to figure out when they would start fall practice, also
put in this letter that you know, oh, by the way,
if we can't determine that it's a hundred percent safe
for our student athletes and coaches and staff, we won't
play this fall. I mean, Doug, you know, it's one
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thing to say that privately, behind the scenes when you're
talking to people. It's another thing to put it in
a letter to conference athletic directors that you know is
gonna get out through public record request, through social media
and everything else. So I don't think they're I don't
think it's a threat because they're not threatening anybody. I
think it's just a real, real thinking on their part.
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And remember, I know Jim Dulaney is not there anymore,
but he's the one that several years ago threatened you
know that, hey, if players are gonna get paid, we'll
go back to playing without scholarships because we're just concerned
about the student athlete experience and and all that stuff.
That probably was a threat, But that's kind of why
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I think. That's why I and others think the big
tim would be the first one to kind of be
out there with we're not gonna play. Doug gotlib show
here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the voice of of
of Brett McMurphy. Um, when do you think we'll know, well,
the the n c A today could make the decision.
If they do, I don't think you're going to have
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anybody immediately canceled their football season. I think that could
come in the coming days. I would think that the
latest in two weeks. But then again, the n c
A today, they actually could decide, you know what, we're
gonna push fall sports back a month or two, or
we're just going to move it to the spring or whatever,
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or we're just gonna we need more time to decide.
That's what I know the Power five commissioners and athletic
directors are trying and hoping for is that the n
c A will wait a couple more weeks before making
the decision because they're trying to buy time because no
decision is better than canceling because once you cancel it,
you can't bring it back. Um and so we couldn't.
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We will know something today if they what that decision
will be. We'll have to find out. If they do
cancel Fall Sports today, then I think you'll see some
football leagues make make their announcements and their decisions, probably
in the next seven to ten days, because there's no
reason to keep dragging it on because you don't want
teams practicing and and going through the motions if if
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you ultimately know you're not gonna be playing football. See
if they don't play football, what what does the landscape
look like of the sport? Uh devon While talking to
athletic directors, the boards they use are devastating, catastrophic. Um,
you know, one a d that they asked this question
three months ago summed it up best bred. If we
don't have college football, we're all bleeps. And it's a
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great quote and he's not trying to be funny, but
he's being honest. And if you're a group of five school,
you could be dropping football, you could be dropping to
the FCS. If you're a power five school, you could
be eliminating some of these non revenue sports. Um, what
it means, Doug, is they would try to play in
the spring, because that is a absolute last resort. And
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we could talk for the next week about all the
challenges with playing in the spring. Most notably, you know,
a large percentage of players probably would not play because
they they don't want to play two seasons in one
calendar year. They don't want to take a chance of injury.
They they're not going to play. You know that they're
not gonna play a road game, but NC State the
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e of the NFL Draft. There's a million reasons why
there would be a number of challenges and obstacles to overcome,
but it would beat beat the alternative, and that is
no football. Because if there's no football in the entire
academic year, then I think you're gonna see some some
group of five schools that could drop football overnight or
drop down to the FCS level. And I think at
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the Power five level, you're gonna see non revenue sports drop.
I mean, we've already seen Stanford drop to leven sports.
A number a group of five schools have dropped non
revenue sports. And keep in mind that's just based on
not having an nca basketball tournament and just the impact
of the financial impact of COVID. That does not even
include the fact that we may not have a full
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football season or football seen a season at all, and
also the attendance numbers if we do play an abbreviated season.
You've seen some of the projections out there, maybe capacity,
so um, everybody's going to take a hit. It's just, um,
you know, basically the size of your school and your
bankroll and your resources right now, will will determine how
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hard those hits are. Okay, so Brett, What's what's the
what's the feedback? The honest feedback from the players tribute article,
which is supposedly hundreds of PAC twelve players, but there's
only a couple that have said they're actually involved in it.
What what's what? What are athletic directors and coaches saying
about it? Well? Behind the scenes, I guess the question
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is how many of these kind of you kind of
addressed it. How many of these student athletes are really
on board with this? Is it a dozen? Is it
five dozen? Is it? Is it a hundreds? Uh, it
appears closer to maybe a dozen or two dozen. Um,
you know, and I think you know, they do bring
up a lot of valid points, a lot of things
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that probably should should be um should be done immediately,
if not, you know, in in the next year or two.
But you know, look, they cannot ask for fifty for
scent of revenue. That that's so unrealistic. I mean, they
lose everybody at that one point, and that's unfortunate. They
also they also they also lose people. They also lose
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people the very start when it says you know that
that that the uh, the system has disproportionately hurt black
black athletes. You know that the system of scholarships, which
is the opposite of you may not like you. This
is the whole problem is the tone. Um In addition,
some of the astors are ridiculous, but the tone of hey, this, this, this,
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this whole system hurts the black athlete is that one.
It's categorically false, but too it hurts any ability to
have a legit discussion because you're like, no, it it
provides a great opportunity. You may think it could provide
a little bit more. That's a that's a discussion that
we've been having and that we should have. But the
idea that it disproportionately hurts the black student athlete is
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ridiculous in reality, in comparison to the numbers of of students,
it's a it's a ridiculous claim that makes it completely baseless.
UH needs and desires right, No, Yeah, I mean there's
there's some good stuff in there, and there's some other
stuff that you kind of shake your head like, yeah,
I'm I'm not so sure about that. And then to
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you know, flat out say that Larry Scott and the
other administrators and coaches sit other salaries reduced. We look,
I mean this is America, right, You're supposed to make
as much money as possible. Now, if you want to suggest,
you know, these salaries, they should cut their salaries and
donate that to some worthy cause or whatever, you know,
I would actually be able to consider that a little bit.
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But just to come out and say, look, this kind
of makes too much money, he should take a pay cut. Um,
I didn't. I didn't agree with that either, but you know, look,
I mean it's got the pacts attention. Larry Scott says
he's going to address these things and and you know,
try to to work with these people. But look, if
they're gonna stick to their guns, then anybody that's on
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that list is not going to play, because there's absolutely
no way they're gonna kiss fifty percent of their revenues
to these players. I mean, the NFL doesn't do that.
They're not going to do that in college athletics. And
certainly when the season is you know, sway to the
start in uh, you know, about a month, so hopefully
that's in agar stoating ploy and they'll say, look, we'll
take off the table but let's talk about some of
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these other things. But but yeah, there's some good in there.
But unfortunately, I think people are gonna get caught up
on the unrealistic, you know, things they're trying to cheeve,
and I think I think that will hurt them in
the long term, no question about it. Great stuff, Brett,
Thanks so much for joining us. I can't wait to
talk about actual football. Hopefully we have it, but we
do know that there's a possibility it won't exist. Thanks
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so much for joining us in Fox Sports Radio anytime. Doug,
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s R to listen live. Okay, this is game time
side on the Doug Gottlieb Show and buyer. What do
you got Doug? The game today is rank? All right,
we are ranking things. Doug rank who has had the
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who has made the most of the NBA bubble so
far in Orlando, team or player? So you can do team.
You can do player, you can do coach if you wanted,
and you can do a commissioner if you want it.
Who's made the most of their time in the bubble.
I'm gonna put Fred van Vleet at uh three, um,
Anthony Davis at two, and Adam Silver at one. I
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apologize as to Mr Silver, I was wrong. You're right smart,
You're smart, I'm stupid, I'm ugly. You're really good looking. Right,
That's that's how you do it. Heavy go more. Um.
I thought I thought the whole world will be open
for business, which it kind of is, but still dangerous.
And I thought these players would be, you know, locked
up and would hate what they're doing their existence, which
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I think some of them do on some level. But
it nonetheless, it has worked, and it has gone off
without a without a hitch, and you have games on
all day. So it's like basketball is now NBA. Basketball
is just a part of your every day existence. Where
you couldn't say that forever, and maybe you'd never say
that about the NBA had to wait till four o'clock
in the afternoon the west and seven o'clock in the east.
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All right, Doug Rank, how you think the media will
vote on the NBA Coach of the Year. We had
the coaches voting in their balance, with Billy Donovan and
Mike Budenholzer sharing the honors. How do you think the
media will vote on the NBA Coach of the Year award?
I think uh. I think Mike Buonholzer will be three.
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I think Billy Donovan will be too, and I think
Nick Nurse will be one. Nick Nurses on the outside
looking in, Look there's a chance Billy down. It should
be pointed out that if you go back and look
by the way, the Bucks have come all the way
back to take the lead. Honest, not playing but the
Bucks playing their backups were playing against a bunch of
scrubbies that were the Nets. But the Nets had a
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big lead, and now the compleant has left to go
in the game. The Bucks have come all the way back.
Any combination of a Bucks winner raptors loss over these
remaining games when they get home point advantage, yes they would,
they get home graphics advantage. In the home graphics, so
the Bucks fans will have to sit in front of
their computer screens and video cameras for four games to
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try to cheer on their team, alright, Doug, p J
Championship week the first major riche Lerner said this last
night on the Golf Channel, which was amazing because you
just don't think of it, the first golf made. We're
in over a year, but that's what we've got. P
J Championship this week in San Francisco at Harding Park.
Rank who you'd like to see win the PGA Championship
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this week? Do I have to rank two other people? Oh?
Maybe you can just do storylines? Uh, if you'd like,
but go ahead, you can. If you want to do
just one, you can do that. Um, okay, So at three,
at three, I'll do Brooks kept just because he's been
dominant at the major. Be three in a row for him. Yeah. Um,
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I would like Ricky to see Ricky win one. You
know he only won the Players a couple of years ago. Um,
no disrespect to Rory who had or Speed trying to
get back, or Bryce and Shambo. I know he's a
great story with it just hitting the ball mess and
then Tiger one. I mean that just it'd be unbelievable
for golf of the big Kecko win it. If Phil
Michaelson wins at fifty, would be the oldest player to
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ever win a major. That would be uh, that would
be something, all right, It would be funny though. Also,
you know he's he always decries California's tax laws, and
then of course he would win. He would win well
in California to pay all that tax Yeah. Well, you
know he lives in southern California's gonna be moving to Florida,
I believe once his Uh. I don't know if his
son just got out of high school or will be,
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but I think that's the plan. Doug, rank the best
college football plans and ounce so far. You were just
talking with Brett McMurphy. Basically, the SEC and Pac twelve
have the same plans for their conference, but you also
have the A C C in the Big twelve, and
we don't know what the Big Ten is gonna do.
So rank those three plans that we at least three
situations that we know of. UM, I like the A
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C C one, So okay, So I do Big twelve
nine plus one starting August nine, Yeah, big, big, But
but the other finding another conference opponent's gonna be hard. Obviously,
I'll play abouch a CC teams but big twelve, I
put third sec pack second, and then I'll put the
a C C because you have because they have no
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they found a way to get Notre Dame in and
they're gonna play one non conference game. I'm gonna put
the A C C. It doesn't mean I think the
a CEC is the best conference. But you said the plan. Yep. Absolutely. Finally,
Dug ranked the best items that you can get in
back to school shopping this year, anytime, well this year.
Um number three is a comfy You're seen a comfy.
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It's like a wearable blanket. It's pretty cool with a hood.
My kids all have them. They're amazing because you're gonna
be doing school at home right Um number two is
an Internet router and number one is a new laptop.
This is game time on The Dug Gottli Show. Yeah,
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you gotta by Friday. We have to decide if we're
gonna do uh school online all year, which allows kids
to travel. You like travel? But yeah, will Anthony Davis
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Baseball on TV. I
think we're gonna have basketball on that too. We have
taskball on that TV. I could can do basketball here
as well. If there's two games going on. Man, we're
watching sports and joint sports, hoping college sports and the
NFL comes back as well. Welcome in Doug Gottlieb Show
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here on Fox Sports Radio. Lakers are the one seed
in the West, which doesn't mean anything except it does
kind of meat something. Right, It's a lot I'll get
to this later on the show. It's a lot like
being ranked number one in the college basketball pole. Right
that that's actually that's exactly what it's like. We'll get
to that. Um watching the Twins and the Pirates, it
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does you know, I I gotta tell you I've been
doing this job at this uh time slot for the
better part of Holy Cow, I'm getting really old. I
just I just kind of realized, John, I'm getting old,
um nearly fifteen years, three different networks, and so I'm
used to in the summer sitting down and hey, what
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baseball games are on? And because you got these big
cardboard cutout big heads in uh Pittsburgh or no, that's
in a target fields in Minnesota, Minneapolis, I don't know.
It feels kind of normal. It feels kind of normal.
It feels like something we've seen before. See it. Speaking
of something we've seen before. Last night, Zion Williamson statistically
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had a great night um in in the bubble, and
I heard Colin cow heard who I was on his
show and who I like a great deal, talk about
Zion is better than everything. Would have thought. This, of course,
comes on the heels of me saying that, um, yesterday
that I thought I thought Zion just looks heavy, looks heavy,
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looks like somebody who is more likely to be hurt
because of how heavy he is, and how disappointed I
am in his inability to maintain his proper conditioning. And
so then I was trying to think if we've seen
Zion Williamson before, we've we've seen and a lot of
people they want to do Rodney Rogers, you know, they
would have more athletic Draymond Green. There's a lot of
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different ways in which you might want to do it.
I think I have the parallel to whose Zion is
and the challenges that are ahead of it. I think
Zion Williamson is closer to Joel em beat And wait, wait,
Joel embat is like seven foot and but one dynamic
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center from Africa. Zion Williamson six five and a half,
ways more but wide like a linebacker or defensive lineman. Like,
this is a totally different dude. Okay, I will give
you that. In terms of their build, their built differently,
but but for positional and size athleticism, they're both off.
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The charge will be fair with that. Like Joel Embiid
has incredible feet and hands an agility for a man
his size. Wait, okay, with that, I would say Zion Williamson,
Zion has incredible athletic ability for a man of his size.
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It's a different build. There's a freakish quality to the athletically. Additionally,
both of the kind of guys like man I would
enjoy just hanging out playing video games for those guys.
Joel's funny, you know. He told people when he went
to Kansas some story about him killing a lion. No
one knows whether it's true or not, but that's kind
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of part of the allure to it. And Zion is
a completely and thoroughly and significantly more likable person than
most anyone who's come down. The shoot from Duke doesn't
mean Duke's got bad guys. It just means, you know,
when I think of Duke, I don't necessarily think that's
a likable group right there. Some of it's the images
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that we painted. Some of it's just the sense that, well,
they've gotta be arrogant because they're so good. They must
know they're so good. Zion made Duke likable. You can't
miss the athletic feats that they have. They have limitless
potential at their position. They are unique, they are athletic,
They have great, big personalities, but they have one massive
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fundamental flaw. I saw Zion. He didn't play much defense
last night, and the more I watched him, the more
become disappointed with where he is right now he's playing
like a He's playing every game like it's an All
Star game, trying to leak out and get dugs. But
I look at Zion and I think, you know, he's
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got to spend whatever it takes, whatever it costs to
have a guy travel with him, hang with him twenty
four hours a day, three sixty five days a year,
that make sure they know what he's eating and what
he's doing to work on his body. We talked about
what about Joel embiad before and Bed could literally be
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the greatest center in the history of the NBA. But
his body has broken down several times over that's limited him.
And his conditioning was a factor last year in the
playoffs and that limited him. And like, whatever it costs,
it's a hundred thousand dollars is two D three. Who
cares like you can make forty fifty million dollars a
year if you achieve the peak of what you should
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be basketball wise, but you cannot get there with whatever
you're currently doing. It's just not good enough. There's no
way to say whatever program diet wise, workout wise, whatever
that the Pelicans have or have allowed Zi Williamson to
operate on is good enough. It's just not. And I'm
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not saying he's ever gonna be a bean pole. I'm
not saying he's ever going to lose fifty pounds, but man,
you gotta lose twenty. You gotta proportionalize it. You gotta
slim up some because that amount of weight, that amount
of torque on that body is just gonna be too
much pressure on the joints, the ligaments, the tendons, all
of that, and the all the soft tissue stuff like
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the muscles. The goal isn't to dominate in twenty five
minutes a game. The goal, you know, and give me
the whole perth thirty six They averages forty game. Now
that's I want him the goal. The goal is to
be able to play thirty five minutes a game, seventy
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five games a year, and play both ends of the floor.
When you can do that, like, that's the secret to
Lebron James. Look, Lebron James a great passer. He's got
an unbelievable body for a man his size. He's got
great dextery. Like he's not super fluid in the hips,
but for six ft eight two d sixty pounds he is.
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But the real key to Lebron's successes. With the exception
of last year's groin injury, he's essentially never been hurt.
And why is that? Some of that is genetic, right,
some of that is genetic, but a good portion of
it is not just his own personal work ethic, but
the fact that he's invested in his body. It's important
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to his diet's important to him. And I've told you
guys the story before, but my dead my late father,
talking about guys that play minor league basketball, there's always
a reason, right, There's always a reason that stars don't
become superstars. And the two things for Zion obviously, development
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of a jump shot is is is going to be massive.
But his body, his physical conditioning, that's the biggest one.
He can catch, he can finish, he can defend if
he wants to. He can pass, and he can lead,
and he can smile. But he can't do these things
well if he's one on the bench, two on I
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R or three sucking for air. When he's playing. Zion's
closer to Joel Embid than anybody else freakish athletic talent.
But until there's a complete buying into what he eats
and how he works out and what his body looks like.
Until that happens, you'll just have these statistical games where
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it appears like he was dominant, but you can't play
him thirty five forty Like, why didn't you play him
thirty five? Because he would have been ridiculously tired, which
is more likely for injury, and you're even worse defensively normally.
Is the reason he's not playing defense now is it's
too exhausting. It's like we it's like we were talking
about him potentially being in the all time greats. You
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can't do that playing twenty five minutes a game. And
at at nineteen years old, twenty years old, you should
be able to play all day without every getting Like,
ask anybody what I was like. Remember what it it was
like when I was twenty years old. I could do
whatever insert whatever man thing it is. I could do
it all day long. I used to, you know, I
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used to get up, you know, used to play pickup ball.
I have a hot dog and a coke, then go
play some more pickup ball, you know, Then go play
some golf, then go lift some weights, then go out
at night, then wake up and do it again right,
that's I mean, twenty years you have, You're indefatigable, you
cannot be tired. And yet here at his youngest point
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in the n b A, he's that he reaches the
point of exhaustion several times in the game. Zion enjoyl
and beat very good comps in terms of freakish athletic
ability and what would separate them from being all time grades?
All right, coming up next, I think I've I think
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I figured out what we're all gonna say about the
Packers next season. And you know, it's actually a path
that's been laid down for them by the New England Patriots.
We'll get to that up coming next. Be sure to
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and the I Heart Radio ah APP. I think most
of you guys now, I'm big and Rodgers fan, right.
Colin likes to let make it like we're like best friends, friendly,
hung out for change text before not really recently whatever,
I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan. I think he's right there.
I mean, like, if I'm gonna, if I want to
win a game, if I want to win a season.
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I you know, outside of Pat Mahomes, you would it
would depend on taste, if you would like Russell Wilson,
who's obviously a little bit younger um or Aaron Rodgers.
And I kind of feel like Russell Wilson is usually
in a better, a different but better, more advantageous for
him situation than Rogers was last year. And that you know,
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he's given kind of carte blanche in the offense, which
is not the style. It looks like how Mike McCarthy
used to allow me, I just get back there and
make a play, and that Aaron Rodgers used to flourish
in that. But I also think it's interesting about what
the Packers are doing, what they're what they're building here,
and why they're building it. This was Aaron Rodgers yesterday
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talking about how he'll handle his future in Green Bay.
I savor every moment every season. I don't take any
of it for granted. I don't know, you know what
the what the future holds. I know I can control
this year and my play and in my roach, in
my attitude. Yeah, I think it's a great way. You know,
only only you can make you happy, and that is
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that seems to be completely and totally accurate, and I
like it's a mature way of looking at it. Here's
Adam Caplin, that's the NFL insider for serious sex and
he joined us yesterday on talking about the Packers offense
in two thousand twenty. Despite Aaron Jones, I know he's
on the finally of his deal. What they love him
number thirty three, They drafted A J. Dillons. So what
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they're gonna do here, Doug. The belief for in the
league is they're gonna be extremely conservative offense. On offense,
this's gonna be a run based offense. It's no longer
to be Aaron Rodgers offense. Um yeah, I mean, like, look,
I think what you have to do is you have
to prepare for some amount of inevitable shift in Aaron
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Rodgers from superstar too superstar brain but not quite the
same guy. Where have we seen this before where a
team changes their focus from being quarterback centrist centric to
trying to run the football shortened the game and then
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at the end of the game you allow your superstar
quarterback to still have enough juice in the tank to
make plays. And and we need those big games. Oh yeah,
by the way, that's the new England Patriots. That's the
new Patriots if you've been paying attention to what they've
done over the past couple of years. When Tom Brady
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was there, they at least in theory, tried to make
themselves a new team that was a power running team,
and then late in the game you got Brady in
the two minute drill doing what Brady does. So I
think it's very interesting that we sit here and criticize
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the the Packers as if they're just completely waving the
white flag on Aaron Rodgers, when a lot of what
they are doing actually, you know, running the foot, being
a power running team and running that's what the Seahawks do.
By the way, as Dan Buyer he's a big Seahawks fan,
there is and follow that up with what the Patriots
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have done or had done around Tom Brady. You want
to take pressure off of a quarterback, run the football.
You want to take pressure off your defense, run the football.
You wanna take pressure off an older quarterback, run the football.
Can't run play action unless you can actually run the ball.
So to me, this is par for the course. You've
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got a quarterback who's gonna turn thirty but seven years old.
Thirty seven years old in December, thirty seven year old Quarterbacks,
though they have the brain of a wizard, at times,
their body doesn't cooperate. You can't. You can't do the
Pat Mahomes dropped back forty times a game. Let him
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run around, just make plays and throw no look passes.
You know you can do that when Aaron Rodgers was
years old and you did, and he was the best
in the game at it, and and he had maybe
not all the weapons, but some of the weapons like
Pat Mahomes has. Now, if you have those guys that
can get open, combined with a quarterback in his prime
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and his prime athletically, you can do those things. So
let let's explain what's gonna happen. He's not gonna have
huge numbers. People are gonna say that he's not the
same quarterback that the league is, that that that that
you know his his coach is taking the ball out
of his hands. And okay, to a to a certain extent,
they did that last year than win thirteen games. So
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if you won thirteen games, I'm going to the NFCY
Championship Game. And really, if Seattle does what they you know,
punch the ball in from one foot line. That game
is at home and who knows if San Francisco even
gets there. That's how close it was. So if you
wanted to only that that doesn't work. I do have
a year of a sample size that says it works,
and that was only in its first year. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
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Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific. So I
get where you're like, dude, Gary Patterson said the N word. Well,
actually he said stop saying the N word. You know,
when all you do is say stop saying the N word,
where we don't say the N word. Brett McMurphy joins
his college football insider Stadium Sports. Is that the way
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you understand that Gary Patterson thing, It sounds like you're
trying to get into a little who's on first right there?
But uh yeah, I mean Patterson said the word instead
of just saying don't say the N word. So his
the problem was he said he actually said the word
instead of saying, don't say the word you're not supposed to,
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you know, the N word, So that that is the issue.
You're right, or that's the that's what happened. What's the
fallout you think? I think it's he's not gonna get fired.
He's apologized, he's UM, you know, they may do something internally,
but uh, you know, look, he's he's either he's either
second or third longest tenured coach behind Kirk Ferrence. Um,
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Mike Gundy's up there with Patterson the top three. So yeah,
I don't think it's a firing offense. He wasn't he
wasn't calling a person that word. He was just saying,
don't use the word. But then he was I don't
mean to laugh, but then he was using it, telling
them not to use it. So you know, certainly he
cannot do this again. You know, that's his one h.
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I don't want to say free pass, but that's the one. Uh,
that's his mulligan and he better not do it again,
and I'm sure he never will. Brett mc murphy joining
us Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. All Right,
where are we Let's let's start with the Big twelve,
right they announced there and the SEC announced kind of
schedule schedules today. How are they the same? How are
they different? The SEC? You know, ten conference games only,
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no non conference games, which means you've got four longstanding
traditional and state rivals rivalry games with the a SEC
that will not be played Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville,
and Florida Florida State. The Big Twelve also does with
ten games, but a little bit different. They will play
nine conference games and then they will play one home
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non conference game. So that's how they get to ten.
Uh certainly they did not want to go to ten
conference games only because they need be playing one opponent twice,
possibly three times if you meet in the Big Twelve
championship game. UM, so you know it's the bottom line
is the smaller group of by schools, some of the
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FCS schools are losing some major pay days. UM. Specifically
for the Big Twelve, we're not gonna see games like
uh L s U in Texas, Oklahoma, will not be
traveling the army, which is one of the best venues
in college football. And now we've got a college football
season where you've got four of the excuse me, yeah,
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four of the conferences, three of the conference for the
conferences playing ten games, and you've got the A c
C playing eleven games, they're going ten conference games in
one non conference game. And then you've got the group
of five leagues who here's they're gonna try to play twelve.
So nobody's gonna have the same number of games. So
if we do have a season, it's gonna be difficult
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enough because we have no nonconference games of merit to
to compare conference schools, and then we have teams playing
different number of games. So hey, look, I'm sure you
would rather be having people complain about unequal schedules or
unfair schedules or cupcake schedules compared with the alternative. And
that's no football. So if that's how you get to
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do it, that that's how they'll do it. Um okay,
So how I mean if you were you are a
betting man, would you bet on on football or no football? Uh?
No football. I'm just I mean, this is not Believe me,
this is not what I want. And I'm not saying
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that they shouldn't play. I'm just trying. I'm trying to
tell you what how I think the presidents will look
at this, and I think it's it's not this simple,
but this is kind of how I see it, the
n c a A today literally could be while we're
on this call or sometime later this afternoon, the n
c A Board of Governors could make a decision on
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the fall sports championships that's soccer, cross country, and volleyball.
That does not impact major college football, because the n
c A does not oversee that, surprisingly enough, but the
thinking is of a lot of ad s that I've
talked to. If the n c A cancels those false
non revenue fall sports champion ships, then how are the
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optics gonna look If these university press and then say, well,
you know what, it's not safe to do these non
revenue sports, but it's okay to play college football, all
the while that it's not safe enough to bring back
the entire student bodies on campus for in person classes.
So I think because of that, I think ultimately that
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we don't play football if the fall spots are canceled.
I think that the Big tim will be the first
league that announces they're not playing football. I think the
other leagues will then follow suit. Although I talked to
a number of a D s um within these specific
conferences and not in these conferences that think if anybody's
going to try to go ahead and play that they
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think the actually the sec in the Big twelve may
try to forge ahead and play even if other leagues
fit it out. Um, certainly that's the decision the presidents
have to make. And I'm not saying it's a writer
or our decision. It's it's a preference of those schools
and those conferences if they think it's it's safe enough
and if there are no major health concerns, um, you know,
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for their student athletes or coaches and Sack Brettman Murphy
joining us in the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, so, um, why would why would the
Big Ten be the first first to cancel? Uh, for
lack of a better term, kind of like a badge
of honor, kind of like, hey, we you know, we
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value our student athletes are the health and safety of
our student athletes more than any other conference. So we're
going to be the leaders and I'm not trying to
pay in their leaders and legends division names from a
few years ago. We're going to be the leaders leaders
of college athletics, and we are not going to play
football because we value our student athletes more than everybody else.
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That's the impression they want to make. I mean, remember
Doug It. Just a few months ago, all of the
Power five leagues or cupposedly in lockstep, they were in
unison kumbaie yah. They were going to announce their schedules,
you know, at the same time, even if those schedules
are going to be different, they were going to make
a united front come out together and announced their schedules together.
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Well that's that plan lasted about forty days, and then
the Big Ten jump the gun. They announced their schedules. First,
We'll look, we're gonna go conference only. We're gonna move
the season back because of the health and safety issues, um, etcetera, etcetera.
So that's why a lot of people think the Big
team will be the first one to do that. And
also keep in mind Kevin Warrant, the Big Tent commissioner,
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you know, in a letter to his his conference athletic
directors a few days ago, you know, when when trying
to figure out when they would start fall practice, also
put in this letter that you know, oh, by the way,
if we can't determine that it's a hundred percent safe
for our student athletes and coaches and staff, we won't
play this fall. I mean, Doug, you know, it's one
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thing to say that privately, behind the scenes when you're
talking to people. It's another thing to put it in
a letter to conference athletic directors that you know is
gonna get out through public record request, through social media
and everything else. So I don't think they're I don't
think it's a threat because they're not threatening anybody. I
think it's just a real, real thinking on their part.
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And remember, I know Jim Dulaney is not there anymore,
but he's the one that several years ago threatened you
know that, hey, if players are gonna get paid, we'll
go back to playing without scholarships because we're just concerned
about the student athlete experience and and all that stuff.
That probably was a threat, But that's kind of why
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I think. That's why I and others think the big
tim would be the first one to kind of be
out there with we're not gonna play. Doug gotlib show
here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the voice of of
of Brett McMurphy. Um, when do you think we'll know, well,
the the n c A today could make the decision.
If they do, I don't think you're going to have
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anybody immediately canceled their football season. I think that could
come in the coming days. I would think that the
latest in two weeks. But then again, the n c
A today, they actually could decide, you know what, we're
gonna push fall sports back a month or two, or
we're just going to move it to the spring or whatever,
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or we're just gonna we need more time to decide.
That's what I know the Power five commissioners and athletic
directors are trying and hoping for is that the n
c A will wait a couple more weeks before making
the decision because they're trying to buy time because no
decision is better than canceling because once you cancel it,
you can't bring it back. Um and so we couldn't.
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We will know something today if they what that decision
will be. We'll have to find out. If they do
cancel Fall Sports today, then I think you'll see some
football leagues make make their announcements and their decisions, probably
in the next seven to ten days, because there's no
reason to keep dragging it on because you don't want
teams practicing and and going through the motions if if
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you ultimately know you're not gonna be playing football. See
if they don't play football, what what does the landscape
look like of the sport? Uh devon While talking to
athletic directors, the boards they use are devastating, catastrophic. Um,
you know, one a d that they asked this question
three months ago summed it up best bred. If we
don't have college football, we're all bleeps. And it's a
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great quote and he's not trying to be funny, but
he's being honest. And if you're a group of five school,
you could be dropping football, you could be dropping to
the FCS. If you're a power five school, you could
be eliminating some of these non revenue sports. Um, what
it means, Doug, is they would try to play in
the spring, because that is a absolute last resort. And
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we could talk for the next week about all the
challenges with playing in the spring. Most notably, you know,
a large percentage of players probably would not play because
they they don't want to play two seasons in one
calendar year. They don't want to take a chance of injury.
They they're not going to play. You know that they're
not gonna play a road game, but NC State the
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e of the NFL Draft. There's a million reasons why
there would be a number of challenges and obstacles to overcome,
but it would beat beat the alternative, and that is
no football. Because if there's no football in the entire
academic year, then I think you're gonna see some some
group of five schools that could drop football overnight or
drop down to the FCS level. And I think at
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the Power five level, you're gonna see non revenue sports drop.
I mean, we've already seen Stanford drop to leven sports.
A number a group of five schools have dropped non
revenue sports. And keep in mind that's just based on
not having an nca basketball tournament and just the impact
of the financial impact of COVID. That does not even
include the fact that we may not have a full
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football season or football seen a season at all, and
also the attendance numbers if we do play an abbreviated season.
You've seen some of the projections out there, maybe capacity,
so um, everybody's going to take a hit. It's just, um,
you know, basically the size of your school and your
bankroll and your resources right now, will will determine how
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hard those hits are. Okay, so Brett, What's what's the
what's the feedback? The honest feedback from the players tribute article,
which is supposedly hundreds of PAC twelve players, but there's
only a couple that have said they're actually involved in it.
What what's what? What are athletic directors and coaches saying
about it? Well? Behind the scenes, I guess the question
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is how many of these kind of you kind of
addressed it. How many of these student athletes are really
on board with this? Is it a dozen? Is it
five dozen? Is it? Is it a hundreds? Uh, it
appears closer to maybe a dozen or two dozen. Um,
you know, and I think you know, they do bring
up a lot of valid points, a lot of things
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that probably should should be um should be done immediately,
if not, you know, in in the next year or two.
But you know, look, they cannot ask for fifty for
scent of revenue. That that's so unrealistic. I mean, they
lose everybody at that one point, and that's unfortunate. They
also they also they also lose people. They also lose
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people the very start when it says you know that
that that the uh, the system has disproportionately hurt black
black athletes. You know that the system of scholarships, which
is the opposite of you may not like you. This
is the whole problem is the tone. Um In addition,
some of the astors are ridiculous, but the tone of hey, this, this, this,
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this whole system hurts the black athlete is that one.
It's categorically false, but too it hurts any ability to
have a legit discussion because you're like, no, it it
provides a great opportunity. You may think it could provide
a little bit more. That's a that's a discussion that
we've been having and that we should have. But the
idea that it disproportionately hurts the black student athlete is
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ridiculous in reality, in comparison to the numbers of of students,
it's a it's a ridiculous claim that makes it completely baseless.
UH needs and desires right, No, Yeah, I mean there's
there's some good stuff in there, and there's some other
stuff that you kind of shake your head like, yeah,
I'm I'm not so sure about that. And then to
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you know, flat out say that Larry Scott and the
other administrators and coaches sit other salaries reduced. We look,
I mean this is America, right, You're supposed to make
as much money as possible. Now, if you want to suggest,
you know, these salaries, they should cut their salaries and
donate that to some worthy cause or whatever, you know,
I would actually be able to consider that a little bit.
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But just to come out and say, look, this kind
of makes too much money, he should take a pay cut. Um,
I didn't. I didn't agree with that either, but you know, look,
I mean it's got the pacts attention. Larry Scott says
he's going to address these things and and you know,
try to to work with these people. But look, if
they're gonna stick to their guns, then anybody that's on
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that list is not going to play, because there's absolutely
no way they're gonna kiss fifty percent of their revenues
to these players. I mean, the NFL doesn't do that.
They're not going to do that in college athletics. And
certainly when the season is you know, sway to the
start in uh, you know, about a month, so hopefully
that's in agar stoating ploy and they'll say, look, we'll
take off the table but let's talk about some of
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these other things. But but yeah, there's some good in there.
But unfortunately, I think people are gonna get caught up
on the unrealistic, you know, things they're trying to cheeve,
and I think I think that will hurt them in
the long term, no question about it. Great stuff, Brett,
Thanks so much for joining us. I can't wait to
talk about actual football. Hopefully we have it, but we
do know that there's a possibility it won't exist. Thanks
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so much for joining us in Fox Sports Radio anytime. Doug,
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s R to listen live. Okay, this is game time
side on the Doug Gottlieb Show and buyer. What do
you got Doug? The game today is rank? All right,
we are ranking things. Doug rank who has had the
(32:31):
who has made the most of the NBA bubble so
far in Orlando, team or player? So you can do team.
You can do player, you can do coach if you wanted,
and you can do a commissioner if you want it.
Who's made the most of their time in the bubble.
I'm gonna put Fred van Vleet at uh three, um,
Anthony Davis at two, and Adam Silver at one. I
(32:59):
apologize as to Mr Silver, I was wrong. You're right smart,
You're smart, I'm stupid, I'm ugly. You're really good looking. Right,
That's that's how you do it. Heavy go more. Um.
I thought I thought the whole world will be open
for business, which it kind of is, but still dangerous.
And I thought these players would be, you know, locked
up and would hate what they're doing their existence, which
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I think some of them do on some level. But
it nonetheless, it has worked, and it has gone off
without a without a hitch, and you have games on
all day. So it's like basketball is now NBA. Basketball
is just a part of your every day existence. Where
you couldn't say that forever, and maybe you'd never say
that about the NBA had to wait till four o'clock
in the afternoon the west and seven o'clock in the east.
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All right, Doug Rank, how you think the media will
vote on the NBA Coach of the Year. We had
the coaches voting in their balance, with Billy Donovan and
Mike Budenholzer sharing the honors. How do you think the
media will vote on the NBA Coach of the Year award?
I think uh. I think Mike Buonholzer will be three.
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I think Billy Donovan will be too, and I think
Nick Nurse will be one. Nick Nurses on the outside
looking in, Look there's a chance Billy down. It should
be pointed out that if you go back and look
by the way, the Bucks have come all the way
back to take the lead. Honest, not playing but the
Bucks playing their backups were playing against a bunch of
scrubbies that were the Nets. But the Nets had a
(34:27):
big lead, and now the compleant has left to go
in the game. The Bucks have come all the way back.
Any combination of a Bucks winner raptors loss over these
remaining games when they get home point advantage, yes they would,
they get home graphics advantage. In the home graphics, so
the Bucks fans will have to sit in front of
their computer screens and video cameras for four games to
(34:48):
try to cheer on their team, alright, Doug, p J
Championship week the first major riche Lerner said this last
night on the Golf Channel, which was amazing because you
just don't think of it, the first golf made. We're
in over a year, but that's what we've got. P
J Championship this week in San Francisco at Harding Park.
Rank who you'd like to see win the PGA Championship
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this week? Do I have to rank two other people? Oh?
Maybe you can just do storylines? Uh, if you'd like,
but go ahead, you can. If you want to do
just one, you can do that. Um, okay, So at three,
at three, I'll do Brooks kept just because he's been
dominant at the major. Be three in a row for him. Yeah. Um,
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I would like Ricky to see Ricky win one. You
know he only won the Players a couple of years ago. Um,
no disrespect to Rory who had or Speed trying to
get back, or Bryce and Shambo. I know he's a
great story with it just hitting the ball mess and
then Tiger one. I mean that just it'd be unbelievable
for golf of the big Kecko win it. If Phil
Michaelson wins at fifty, would be the oldest player to
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ever win a major. That would be uh, that would
be something, all right, It would be funny though. Also,
you know he's he always decries California's tax laws, and
then of course he would win. He would win well
in California to pay all that tax Yeah. Well, you
know he lives in southern California's gonna be moving to Florida,
I believe once his Uh. I don't know if his
son just got out of high school or will be,
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but I think that's the plan. Doug, rank the best
college football plans and ounce so far. You were just
talking with Brett McMurphy. Basically, the SEC and Pac twelve
have the same plans for their conference, but you also
have the A C C in the Big twelve, and
we don't know what the Big Ten is gonna do.
So rank those three plans that we at least three
situations that we know of. UM, I like the A
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C C one, So okay, So I do Big twelve
nine plus one starting August nine, Yeah, big, big, But
but the other finding another conference opponent's gonna be hard. Obviously,
I'll play abouch a CC teams but big twelve, I
put third sec pack second, and then I'll put the
a C C because you have because they have no
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they found a way to get Notre Dame in and
they're gonna play one non conference game. I'm gonna put
the A C C. It doesn't mean I think the
a CEC is the best conference. But you said the plan. Yep. Absolutely. Finally,
Dug ranked the best items that you can get in
back to school shopping this year, anytime, well this year.
Um number three is a comfy You're seen a comfy.
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It's like a wearable blanket. It's pretty cool with a hood.
My kids all have them. They're amazing because you're gonna
be doing school at home right Um number two is
an Internet router and number one is a new laptop.
This is game time on The Dug Gottli Show. Yeah,
(37:42):
you gotta by Friday. We have to decide if we're
gonna do uh school online all year, which allows kids
to travel. You like travel? But yeah, will Anthony Davis
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