August 5, 2020 • 38 mins
Doug talks about Damian Lillard and if he’s the most underrated player in the NBA right now? He also tells you why Derek Carr is under the most pressure in 2020 to remain the Raider starting QB. College Football insider Ross Dellenger joins the show to tell Doug if we will have a full season in 2020.
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Doug ot Leave Show? Fox Sports Radio. You may have
heard from Dan Buyer that uh Division two, Division three
Fall Sports canceled, right Dan? Is that my my accurate? There?
The double A canceling all championships? Yep, there we go,
canceled all championships, which, believe it or not. Um, that's
gonna save the n c a lot of money. You know,
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that money that they make on the n c A tournament.
There you go. That's where it goes towards is uh
uh it can, It can go fast, but it gets
spent on those championships. It gets sprinkled all around and
spread all around. This is the Dog Gotlip Show on
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Fox Sports Radio. Huh. You know, Damian Lillard um had
a good game last night. The Portland Shilblazers won. I
always find it interesting on how we become like super
result oriented, right, Like Blazers have won three or four.
We knew they were going to be a better team
because they got Nurkics back, because they got Zack Collins back. Um,
I'm not sure we all knew that Karmlo Anthony would
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be in the best shape of his career, but he
has been. He had the big dagger shot. They're down
to hit a three, put him up one, and they
end up winning by eight. You know, it's interesting, like
the Mellow thing, just when I couldn't you couldn't do anything,
where's the completely redeem yourself right from dumb and dumber?
That was Mellow last night. He was four or fourteen
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before that shot. He was five or fifteen making the shot,
like he missed ten of his fourteen shots previously. That
doesn't mean he's staying. I'm just trying to give you
a perspect The whole thing with Melo is volume guy
and can struggle to defend. So it's just interesting to
me on how everybody's well. Carmelo, he's proving everybody wrong.
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Like you know, Carmelo was on the team when they
were in like the ten seed, the guys that weren't
there were Nurkics and Zach Collins. He was brought in
to replace Zach Collins, who went down with what would
have been a season ending injury if not for the
fact that, you know, everything was spread out. So I
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I I look at Damian Lillard and I think, man,
he's a hell of a player. Damian Lillard's a hell
of a player. But I also would bring up that
Damian Lillard we have seen him in the playoffs against
Steph Curry, for example, and Steph Curry's the better player, right,
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And that's just kind of what it is. Now. We
could make excuses all we want about, you know, supporting
cast and whatever, but but go look at his Go
look at his playoff log, you know, go look at
Damian Lillard's playoff log and be like, oh, he's a
damn good player. He's had some huge moments. But they
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play against Golden State, and you know last year they
lost in three games of four games, excuse me, and
lost by twenty two, by three, by eleven, and by two.
And in those games, you know, Steph Curry was better
pronounced Lee better. You know, I mean game game one
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last year, for example, Damian Lillard nineteen points, four of
twelve from the field, six assists, seven turnovers. Steph Curry, well,
Steph Curry ho hum had thirty six points, you know,
and you go, well, you know he had, he had,
Kevin durand y had. Okay, Like we can kind of
go round and round about who's on whose team. Steph
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Curry took twenty three shots at thirty six points, also
had seven assists and only had one turnover. Like there's
there's no there's no conversation for head to head who's
a better player. It's either Stefford or Damian Lillard. And
that doesn't mean Damian Lillard stinks. I'm not trying to
make that argument. Game two, by the way, Steph had
twenty seven and eight. See met seven and eight, thirty
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seven and eight, Like he just set the tone. You know,
you go back to two thousand and seventeen. I mean, look,
three of the past four years, three of the past
four years, the Golden State Warriors have beaten the Portland Trailblazers.
And as good as Damian Lillard has been, and he's
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been spectacular times, Steph Curry has been that much better.
And it's it's a lot like when we get to
the Tears in NFL Quarterbacks, Like nobody's saying Matt Ryan stinks.
Matt Ryan was the MVP of the league, a really
good player got to a super Bowl. Is up twenty
three in Super Bowl. But as Matt Ryan the class
of Aaron Rodgers, no seeing the class of bat Mahomes. No,
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he's just not. We've seen those two guys, and Matt
Ryan's team beat Aaron Rodgers team to go to the
super Bowl. Here they went to the super Bowl, but
that wasn't about Matt Ryan. Right. You see the two
head ahead next to each other, and you just know.
And that's one of the things that the playoffs gives us.
And you know, I think, I don't know how you
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guys viewed Damian Lillard. He's just he's not in that
category of if Steph's healthy, step is above him. He's
obviously not in the Lebron category or the Kauai category,
with the Janis category. I mean, big thing is he's
a smaller guard, and he's not a great defender to
begin with, and it's hard to affect the game when
you're not a great defender and you're small Steph's impact.
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He's good at getting steals. Steph impact is so big
offensively that it does marginalize some of the defensive inadequatec
some not all, not all. Um. So, I just if
if you want to tell me that he's a top
twenty player in the NBA, I will absolutely agree with you.
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If you want to tell me that he is a superstar,
I don't. He's a great for a basketball player. He's
a great rapper. He's got a cool image, he's got
a cool shoe. It's a good cool saying Dame time
like all that stuff is cool. But as a basketball player,
he's not one of the ten best players in the
league because if he was, they wouldn't have been a
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nine seed before they got their big guy back. That's
the ten best players in the league, do yes, right? Music,
So is Portland's one of those teams where Damien they
will never win a championship if Damian Lillard's always their
best player. And why is it that Portland has never
been that place that can get the big free agent
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if they have a backcourt like Damian Lillard and c
J McCollum um. If it feels like they're like that
and I know it was never really on Kauai's list,
but like when you're able to get a player like
a Kauai or Kevin Durant, that that next tier of
like wing player to sort of take some of the
pressure off a dame. Is it because he requires such
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a high volume of shots? Is it because Portland's not
one of those big, glamorous markets. It always feels like,
you know, they used to be, even before McCollum, it
was LaMarcus Aldridge and Damian Lillard and you know they
had their little success in the first couple of rounds
of the playoffs, but they've just never been able to
get that big name player. I would say it's that
there's there's a little bit bout you know, they almost
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got LaMarcus Aldridge a couple of years and they had
the Marcus Aldridge, they couldn't keep him. I don't know,
you now, I'm not a big market size guy, but
I would say market sizes is a big factor, is
a really big factor. Um hmm, that's a hard one.
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I don't know. Um. I would say mostly it's mostly
market sized more than anything. And just you know, those
two guys also make a ton of money, and so
you're gonna have to kind of fit a guy in there.
They just never been able to to get one. Yeah,
I would. I would say market sizes that you know,
they're not l a and I like Portland's. I mean
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it's one of those places where I know it's been
on fire here the last month because of all the protests,
but it's a very very cool city with awesome suburbs
to live in. You know, you get by water. It's
it's not as remote as Seattle was back when they're
an NBA Team's ton of passion, good fans. You got
Nike based there, you got Adidas based there. Like, there's
some really good things. But I would say, um uh,
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I would say to me, hm, to me, it has
to do with market size more than anything, and just
kind of the glamour of the Portland Trailblazers. It's not
a historic franchise. You know, the Celtics. Boston is not
a huge market, but it's the Boston Celtics. Look, the
Knicks have had the number one market size and they
haven't been able to get guys either. It's not easy
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to get free agents. But I would say it's mostly
market size and location. Uh, kind of combined Doug Gotlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. There's a QB in
the NFL right now who's facing a maker break season
in two thousand twenty. I'll tell you who it is next.
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio WAP Doug
Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Can we all agree that
Derek Carr is he's one of these guys that kind
of make our break time for amou just feels like that,
It feels like this, this is it's either now or
never if you're Derek Carr, now or never. And uh,
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I don't think it'll be never, but I'm not sure
it'll be now. And with this team, it's just a
weird such a weird existence for him, you know, very
strange existence. You know, here's a guy who is a
really really good player, really good talented player, but he's
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not great, He's not a superstar. He just kind of
a just good He's that What do you what do
you guys? What do you think third tiers? That where
where we go with third tier as far as quarterbacks concerned. Yeah,
I would say that's good. Third tier. Um, so I
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don't know third tiers about right, That's who he is,
third tier quarterback. M hm and uh, it's it's just
interesting to watch people's reactions when Derek Carr says this
talking about his current reputation. I have lots of proof
to myself. I have a lot to prove to tomorrow
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and say something. I'm gonna be complete. Honestly, I'm sorry
of being disrespected. So there was no question I was
gonna play this year, no question. Did somebody questions without
it he would play? Was that? Is that the Is
that the heart of it? Right? Like we do we
do this thing where we're like, well A, you're gonna
opt out quarterbacks? Are they're not opting out? Look, here's
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the first thing with the opting out. I understand if
you have a baby at home. I understand if you
if you're you have some pre existing health condition. I
can we continue to point out that the breakdowns in
the baseball bubble have been about guys going off campus,
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if you will, guys not taking the personal responsibility. That's
what they're not doing. Are you asking a lot? I
guess you know, you're a young athlete, you got some money,
you're in a foreign town. You're like, I don't want
to eat. I don't want to just eat at the
hotel and the specific food from the specificy. Like, I
don't want to do that. Nobody wants to do it.
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But with the alternative is you bring down the whole league.
So this idea that guys would opt out, I just
for the most part don't understand or agree with. I
just you're you're much safer if you're under the watchful
I of your team's doctors, whether you're sick or or
or whether you you fall victim to COVID. But for
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Derek Carr, he does have a lot to prove. Now,
he's smart and he's like, all allot to prove to myself.
You got a lot to prove to your coach. He
did survive the move. That was the big things, Like, man,
it's even gonna be it's even gonna be there when
they move. Yeah, he's gonna be there when they move,
absolutely going to be there when they move. But what
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about after that? After that? I have no idea. You know,
they bring in Marcus Mariota. They paid him seven half
million dollars. Marcus Mario has not been healthy. They in
love with him since, you know, since going back to
the NFL Draft. Mayok was in love with him. Gruden's
in love with him. And if you've ever met Marcus Mariota,
it's pretty hard and not really like the guy. This
is Daniel Jeremiah early in the show talking about Derek Carr.
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You need everything else to go well on the on
the other side of the ball, you know, the way
they're running the ball, they're kind of they've kind of
built their team to play to his strengths, which is
a little bit more you know, conservative in nature and
just being accurate, don't turn the football over, be a
physical team, you know. I think that kind of works
for him. I think this is gonna be the year,
I really do. I think this is the year we learn, uh,
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whether or not he's the guy going forward or not.
And I you know, I think if if they were
to struggle, um, yeah, they like Marcus Mariota a lot.
So this is gonna be a big year for him.
It's gonna be a big year for him. And I
can't honestly tell you, I know, I don't think anybody
knows what's gonna happen. Do you you got any idea
what's what's gonna happen with market with with Derek Carr.
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Look at the Raiders schedule. Now, Remember they're not gonna
like this could have been perfect for him because here's
a guy that needs people to believe in him, and
he's not gonna have you got that beautiful home stadium,
and he's not gonna get a chance to you know,
not gonna like you would be. Their first home game
is against New Orleans Saints, Like, can you imagine that
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atmosphere if they had fans there. Now, you're gonna play
in a dome against New Orleans Saints, a dome team
that is a super Bowl favorite or Super Bowl pick
for some people. They opened up at Carolina matter rules
never coached in the NFL before. You know, you got
Teddy Bridgewater as a starting quarterback who doesn't throw it,
doesn't throw it down field ton You know that that's
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almost a completely new team outside of Christian McCaffrey. You
can win that game that New Orleans at homes a
hard game. Um, you go to New England Buffalo at
home at Kansas City, like it gets rough after a while.
You know, this is the thing about the Antonio Brown experiment.
Really they wanted to see what they had and Derek
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Carr like, now we give you the weapons, what do
you got? And of course Antonio Brown blowing up and
having to be traded. You really bought Derek Carr time.
But Derek car time. Now they draft Rugs, who takes
the top off of defense, less excuses, more time his team.
Mariota is the backup. They told you all you need
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to know by bringing in Mariota's backup. If they want
to bring in like an Andy Dalton for a couple
million a year, granted he's from Texas, is that they
would have done it. They paid seven half million dollars
because they are not convinced at all that Derek Carr
is the guy. Let's get you Dan Byron and find
out what else is going on in the world sports TV?
What again? Can I add a little something to this
because I do find it interesting to your point. The
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it's not like the Raiders brought in a guy who
was night and day from Derek Carr. They brought in
the same guy who is probably just more mobile and
able to run the ball. Because when you look at
what happened in Tennessee. Part of what made Ryan Tannehill
effective is that they actually threw the ball down in
the field, threw the ball to a J. Brown, something
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that Marcus Mariotta maybe wouldn't do in Nashville. So now
when you're in Oakland and one of the Knox On
Derek Carr, has been uh, you know, checkdowns and and
not being able to challenge the field vertically, Um, yeah,
I don't think that it bodes well. And it's actually
a bit of a similar situation that what Mariota was in,
except he was on the other side of it a
year ago, where you just kind of have a guy
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maybe sitting there waiting in the wings and someone's on
their last shot. So plus you paying Mariota seven million
dollars a year to be your backup quarterback, and that's
another deal. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific.
Ross Dellinger joins us on The Doug gotlib Show. College
Football Insider for Sports Illustrated. What as of today it's
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August fifth, How confident? How confident are you that we
will have the season start when they're now proposing it
will start. Not as uh, certainly not as confident as
I was probably June five, Um, but uh, and and
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it seems like every day, Doug, we have a list
or the hurdle just gets higher, you know, the obstacles
get more and more. If we were on a race track,
there's higher hurdles and more of them. It seems like
every day. Um. Whether that's the you know, the rising
cases in in certain places, uh, the outbreaks on on campuses,
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the fear that administrators have in the return of students
to campus. Uh, you know, colleges shutting down because of
cases on the team. It's uh, it's it's kind of
one thing after another. Players now bowing out, you know,
opting out. Some high profile players have already opted out.
And I'm sure that's just the first of the dominoes.
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So I am not, no, not super confident um that
that we can start as early as some teams want to,
which is August twenty nine, I think is the the
kind of the week zero in college football. I think
with the SEC did in the Pact twelve, putting the
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day at September gives you more times certainly some I'm
a little more confident in that date, but my overall
confidence in completing a season, uh is less than just
the way we're going right now. Um okay, I mean
I guess I guess the first thing is, like you
have this mix. Some schools don't have kids back on campus,
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some sec kids reporting to campus already. Uh, they're modifying
the classes. I guess that the challenges, the challenges really
one the testing, quarantining kids, then keeping them from going
to these parties while they're while they're there, right, I
mean then't that really the challenge that is that? I mean,
the latter one is is the biggest challenge of all. Uh.
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We saw it today. Louisville announced that four athletic teams.
All activities have been stopped for those teams because there's
an outbreak which was uh surprise, surprise, trace back to
a house party. Um in in we're gonna have that
in college. We reported a few couple of months ago,
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l s U down in Baton Rouge had a big
outbreak that was traced to a night out at a
local nightclub in Baton Rouge, Kansas State. I think I
sat down workouts for a little while because of a
house party. So these are issues where they're not gonna
disappear during the season. Kids are just gonna all of
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a sudden disappear or not want to go out to
the bar, or not want to go hang out with
with their friends. So we're gonna have these issues. Assisted
This is a big difference, gug between pro sports in
college is in pro you can have a bubble, as
we're seeing successfully with the NBA and MLS. In college,
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you cannot the pertinent one. The players are younger, not
gonna make as um prudent of decisions. Number Two, you
have all these other students on campuses or at least
getting married later this month, and you're gonna have potentially
have spikes because of that. These student athletes are gonna
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be going there because they're going to two classes with
other students um and they're not paid, you know, so
you can't really sequester them like you could a pro athlete.
So the college ross, you absolutely can. The team teams
go to training camps, teams have you basically have athletic dorms,
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which I know they've kind of eliminated it's got to
be students or whatever. But they find a way to
have an basically an athlete wing or they live off campus,
that live all together. You absolutely can, you know, quarantine
them doesn't mean isolate them, but quarantine them. And you
absolutely can ask guys to not go out. You can.
It happens all the time, like in California schools or
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Colorado schools. Like you can't smoke weed even if the
rest of the school can't, even if it's legal in
the state. You can't burn say, but you can absolutely
ask guys to do something that regular students aren't asked
to do because they get the privilege of playing college football.
I probably should rephrase you. You certainly can do you
you can. You can put them in a bubble um,
but uh will they you know, will college leaders do that?
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And they won't. They won't. They already have come out
and said they're not going to do that because part
of it is because all this absolute compensation and i
L stuff going on and going on in Congress. They
don't want any in any way to seem like athletes
are different from students, even though we know they are. Um,
they don't want it to seem like that. They don't
want to seem like their employees, so they're they're not
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gonna do it. And about the thing about the bar,
I mean, come on, you know, we all went to college.
You can ask a college kid not to do something.
I guess we're gonna do a purposely probably the next
day do it, you know, So that that's the that's
the issue there. Yeah, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm just gonna
disagree with you that the many of the things that
takes to be a great athlete, it takes personal discipline, right,
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and personal accountability. That that's what you that's one of
the things you like learned in colleges. You know, if
you get a scholarship check, like all right, well, I
gotta make this work for the month took up. The
next one happens when you get money from home, you know,
I all right, I gotta learn how to manage this
until I get the next amount of money from my parents.
And I do think you can ask them, especially because
in terms of bars, there's just a limit to the
number of kids that can actually go to a bar.
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I understand, guys, A fake I d s um. I
don't know. I I'm intrigued to see how this thing
plays out, you know, like I've we saw the spike early.
For Clemson, they haven't reported positive tests since. Same thing
for Oklahoma. Their first test was like nineteen that tests positive,
none since, and they seem to be going all going
headlong into it. Let'st's start with the Big ten thing.
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What do you take of the new players tribute article,
which it says it's thousands of Big Ten athletes, although
I'm curious why no one put their name on it,
and then they included an A, A D two, Like
I actually think you protect yourself more if you put
your name on it. That way, you know that nobody
can cut your scholarship or you know what I mean.
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I'm surprised there's no names on it. Uh. Well, yeah,
and you remember that that you know, the PACTWEL did
something similar Pact twel players, and there were only eleven
players on uh that put their name to the PAC
twelve deal when they sent the letter to Larry Scott
on Sunday, was just eleven of them. And from what
I understand, no team in the PAC twelve is more
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than three players who say they're kind of part of
the movement, who say that they will boycott if they
don't if these demands aren't matt Now, there are a
lot of players out there that are, um, you know,
for the movement, support their teammates, support the movement, but
they're not gonna opt out. They have already some of
them already come out and publicly said it. Uh. You know,
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as far as the Big tenure right there, there's not
there's not any names there, um which you you question that. However,
the Big Ten's letter is much more reasonable. You know.
Their their list of demands is just around the COVID
nineteen precautions and things like that. As the fact, twelve
demands were for of athletic departments revenue basically, which is
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never going to happen. I think we know that's never
going to happen. You know, they wanted some coaches to
take a cut in salary, and I think the commissioner
as well. So the Big Ten's list of demands, they're
they're a little more reasonable, They make a lot more sense,
and I think they're gonna get a lot of them. Um.
You know, I think of vast majority, if not all,
of them will be met, and a lot of them
are already in the process, you know, the process of
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being met. By the Big Ten there in their protocols
and uch Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Trail.
What's crazy about it is it does feel like he
was setting up to be a great year in college football, right.
Like you have these two quarterbacks in Ohio I want
to Ohio State and one at Clemson, and they seem
to be on a crash course. And I think maybe
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Texas is back this year. Obviously Oklahoma is gonna have
a new looking It's like fascinating that kind of selfishly
as guys that love and cover the sport, Uh, we're
waiting and we have no idea what this thing it
looked like. And of all the sports that is affected
by home field, to pomp and circumstance in the pageantry
of campus football is incredible. It's gonna be interesting see
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what this looks like if there's no fans in the stands,
even if they have games. It is let me think
about just through all of sports. You know what what
sports have, uh, the the biggest homefil advantage? And I
think it's college basketball number one. I think it's college
football probably number two. You know you like you said,
do you think of the just the environment and and Uh,
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the all all everything that goes into a game day
on a college campus, and it is a huge advantage.
It's gonna be odd when we turn on our TV
in a hundred thousand seed stadium has fifteen thousand people
in it, because if you talk to architects of venues
and then you talk to doctors and you talk to administrators,
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you cannot socially distance a a stadium and have more
than one third of it full. It's it's basically impossible
when you when you talk to them. So a lot
of administrators are coming out hoping for you know, of
their stadium full. That that just seems like, um a
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stretch until I think we're gonna see at most stadiums
and it will be very odd, be very odd in
the in the press box to Doug, you know, I
don't expect full press boxes. We're gonna be up there
and it's probably gonna be a third or a quarter full.
Ross tellents you joining us dog gotlib show here on
Fox Sports Radio. UM Yukon cancels their season. A lot
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of it comes down to, look, they're an independent's hard
to find games. Is there a chance you can football
doesn't come back at the Division one level. Oh yeah,
I think there's uh, I think they're definitely a chance
in that we I mean, I think it's been well
documented the uh some of the issues that you know,
financially that that that Yukon has. I mean a lot
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of these smaller d On programs in these group of
five programs, they don't make money. Uh, their athletic department
doesn't make money. Football program doesn't necessarily make money. And uh,
right now, in the financial situation that they're all staring
at with this pandemic, um, yeah, it would uh, it
would make a lot of sense for a few of
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them to fold it up. So I'm not sure that's
going to happen there, but I would not be shocked
if if you know, that that does happen and they
maybe even uh use the pandemic as a way to
usher out of sport. We've seen that, Doug, We've seen
that around the nation this summer, a lot of sports
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have been kind of thinking up to fifty or fifty
five Division one sports teams have been cut in a
lot of administrators are using the pandemic to do that,
you know, to save money and cut an Olympic sports
that loses half a million dollars a year, and then
you have Alabama, who's given out new contracts today. Yeah,
it's like a difference right there. Yeah, the gap between
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the gap between the power five in in everybody else
in Division one is growing and growing. And that's a
good example of it. Yeah, it's a great example of it.
Right And but but you know, my take on some
of this is, Hey, some of this was coming anyway, right,
Like this is it's a lot like J. C. Penny
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going under during the pandemic. It's like j C. Penny
was going under anyway. There was already a massive division
between the halves and the have nots and the possibility
of the power five breaking way, and this is only
going to speed up that process. It's not something that's
only happened because of the pandemic. Sure, sure it put
it on the fast track. You know, the pandemic. It
exposed it and put it on the fast track. And uh,
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you know what, I know it's um it's it's you
hear this every off season, the talk of the split
between the power prop in the n c A. It's
like this talking point it seems like every off season,
and this year it just feels like we're we are,
We're closer and closer and closer to to it happening
because we're seeing now the pandemic has shine a light
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on how big of gap of a gap there is,
not just between not just between an SEC team, say
in in some group of five team, but but heck,
I mean in an SEC team, in in a in
a you know, smaller packed roll team or something, or
I mean you're you're. The gap is really why iied
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between several levels, and and it's a cliche, but it's true.
It is a broken model, and the whole n c
A structure is a broken model, and we're going to
see in years from now that it is going to
be changing fairly quickly. Okay, so what does it change
and look like? Well, I think I think eventually you
you you see the Power five do their own thing.
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They're already shoot, I mean, they're already down the road
on it, right. They already have the Autonomy five rules
that they operate by that are different than others. I
mean the Autonomy five uh presidents, and chances they meet
separately from everybody else. Sometimes a lot of times, especially
during this pandemic, um that that that's happened. So certainly
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they separate often you can see them do their own thing,
have their own championship. Group five teams maybe have their
own championship. Everybody has its uh its own division, and
and things are things a little more maybe uh competitive.
You know, it's it's kind of a to look and
and see that in Alabama with a budget of a
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hundred and whatever thirty million dollars is playing an FCS
team with a bunchet of eight million dollars, Like, why
are we doing that? And now the pandemic is showing
that we we shouldn't be Probably doing that, Yeah, probably
shouldn't be. Although it does help fund the lower level
athletic department and then it it fills the conference of
all Tuscaloosa where they filled the bars in the restaurants
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and allows them to play all those other guys. Gonna
be gonna be an interesting year. We'll see, we'll see
if it it gets started, we'll see if it gets completed.
In the meantime, can't wait to read and listen to
your work. Ross, thanks so much for joining us on
Fox Sports Radio. Sure, Ross Dellinger College Football Insider Sports
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starts with the Big Ten Conference unveiling their schedule for
(32:08):
the upcoming season. Ten games is what we thought all along,
conference only. It will start Thursday, September three, so they
will be playing that Labor Day weekend. The season, though
would end on November twenty one. Each school will have
to bye weeks. There will be flexible dates being available
as well in late November. In fact, the entire Eastern
Division and I believe Illinois in the Western Division will
(32:31):
all have one week off in November, while the other
schools in the Western Division will have a separate week
off and Doug November been completely cleared out. If they
have to move any games till later on in the season,
November twenty would have been when Ohio State in Michigan
played That's not gonna happen. They're gonna play on October October.
That's moved up a great deal right normally to Nomah.
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They maybe maybe that maybe that helps hardball's luck and
hardball doesn't have to go to Ohiose State in the
full horse shoe. Now maybe they'll have maybe they have fans,
maybe they have no fans, we don't know. For years,
it used to be in the weekend leading up to Thanksgiving.
Then when the the schedules expanded, they moved it to
the weekend after and now it'll just be the week
end before Halloween. So something to uh to look forward to.
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You touched on this just a little while ago, but
the Yukon football program will not have a season in
players will remain on scholarship as the Huskies are the
first FBS school to opt out of the upcoming season.
There's a lot that goes into it. They've been hemorrhaging money. Uh,
they pulled out of the American Athletic Conference. They're set
to be an independent. I'm sure there. I'm sure they're
struggling to find games. And the big question is will
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they will they ever come back? Will they ever come back?
And I don't know, I don't have the answer for that,
you know, I should have tied they said with a
Big ten. But the Big ten players in a piece
in the Players Tribune and had their own piece that
they sent out like the Pack twelve players did. The
Big Ten United group had about a thousand football players
demanding that they that the n C double a focus
on player safety entering the college football season. You know
(34:02):
what's funny is why did they lead with the we
have thousand players? Why would they lead with that? There
aren't a thousand players in the Big Ten. Maybe five
scholarships you would have to have. I'm trying to think
five fourteen schools. Is that a thousand? I think just barely.
That would mean every guy has signed up for it.
(34:25):
Like you're just you're doing things that hurt your credibility,
going like we have thousands of players, Like yet, no
you don't. You don't have everybody signed up. And again many,
at least in this one. Many of the asks in
turn of COVID are fairly reasonable. But when you start
with the we have a thousand, and you're like, yeah,
we included D two, N, A, I A some other stragglers,
(34:46):
you know, like that's not really even close to a thousand,
But I mean, you know, they threw in there some pork,
like hey, can we get free access to the Big
ten network? Which I get, Like, hey we if you
can't um, if you can't go to see the games,
(35:06):
can you see your kid play on TV? But like
now we're paying for your cable bill? Does that work
a special code? Doug. The Memphis Grizzlies are oh in
four now in the Orlando Bubble. Lost to the Jazz
today on this team also lost Jr. And Jackson Jr.
For the rest of the NBA season with a torn meniscus.
He obviously didn't play today. But tough goings for Memphis,
(35:30):
who gotta feel they were slidded anyway for having to
be in that eight nine situation. Now they could be
falling completely out of the eight nine matchup of things
continue this way. Tough going obviously for the Philadelphia seventy
six years two. I don't know if you saw this,
uh uh. Ben Simmons left the game with a I
don't know. He's limping when he walked out the floor.
They're up seventy seventy four nearing the end of the
(35:51):
third quarter against the Wizards. Doug in day baseball. The
uh Phillies lead the Yankees by a score of six
to three on the top of the sixth inning. Because
this game is going on right now, we can't play
a highlight uh from the game, but I can play
one from when hit home run swung on driving it right.
It is high that us far us gone a three
(36:15):
run home run to give the Yankees a lead. Neil Walker,
the home run coocker. He drills on a deep right
and the Yankees once down for nothing, now take off
five four leaves that happened on augusteen, So just stop figured.
You know, we always love to hear from our boy
(36:36):
John Sterling. He's back today, right, He's been sick and
he's back, So welcome back down sting Neil Walker a
real home run. Cocker could go a lot of different ways,
but hey, try to oh man, try it is high?
Is far all rise? Oh man, he's there's a lot.
(36:59):
Oh it's going on. There a lot going on. Marlin's
lead the Orioles. Actually it's scoreless. Um in a game
that I don't know how many people care about. Hey,
but hey, the Marlins with all those games missed, still
in the playoff picture, Like when you look at the standings,
they're still there. That's the press. Get out there and pressed.
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(37:42):
on these games is you don't always know who's gonna play,
you know, Like, I'll be interested to see Lakers, who
clinched the one seed taking on the thunder Lakers are
five and a half point favorite, Raptors are seven a
half point favorite taking on the Magic, and the Nets
are taking on the Celtics. Nets played great and they
beat the didn't they beat the Bucks? Like with all backups? Yeah,
(38:03):
that means I take the Celtics today, right, Like just
the idea that they're playing with backups. Jamal Crawford got
hurt in his first game back, right, give me the
Celtics and that eight and a half points. There's my
pick of the night. Have a great nights. Doug Gotlip Show,
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Doug ot Leave Show? Fox Sports Radio. You may have
heard from Dan Buyer that uh Division two, Division three
Fall Sports canceled, right Dan? Is that my my accurate? There?
The double A canceling all championships? Yep, there we go,
canceled all championships, which, believe it or not. Um, that's
gonna save the n c a lot of money. You know,
(00:49):
that money that they make on the n c A tournament.
There you go. That's where it goes towards is uh
uh it can, It can go fast, but it gets
spent on those championships. It gets sprinkled all around and
spread all around. This is the Dog Gotlip Show on
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Fox Sports Radio. Huh. You know, Damian Lillard um had
a good game last night. The Portland Shilblazers won. I
always find it interesting on how we become like super
result oriented, right, Like Blazers have won three or four.
We knew they were going to be a better team
because they got Nurkics back, because they got Zack Collins back. Um,
I'm not sure we all knew that Karmlo Anthony would
(01:32):
be in the best shape of his career, but he
has been. He had the big dagger shot. They're down
to hit a three, put him up one, and they
end up winning by eight. You know, it's interesting, like
the Mellow thing, just when I couldn't you couldn't do anything,
where's the completely redeem yourself right from dumb and dumber?
That was Mellow last night. He was four or fourteen
(01:53):
before that shot. He was five or fifteen making the shot,
like he missed ten of his fourteen shots previously. That
doesn't mean he's staying. I'm just trying to give you
a perspect The whole thing with Melo is volume guy
and can struggle to defend. So it's just interesting to
me on how everybody's well. Carmelo, he's proving everybody wrong.
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Like you know, Carmelo was on the team when they
were in like the ten seed, the guys that weren't
there were Nurkics and Zach Collins. He was brought in
to replace Zach Collins, who went down with what would
have been a season ending injury if not for the
fact that, you know, everything was spread out. So I
(02:36):
I I look at Damian Lillard and I think, man,
he's a hell of a player. Damian Lillard's a hell
of a player. But I also would bring up that
Damian Lillard we have seen him in the playoffs against
Steph Curry, for example, and Steph Curry's the better player, right,
(03:00):
And that's just kind of what it is. Now. We
could make excuses all we want about, you know, supporting
cast and whatever, but but go look at his Go
look at his playoff log, you know, go look at
Damian Lillard's playoff log and be like, oh, he's a
damn good player. He's had some huge moments. But they
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play against Golden State, and you know last year they
lost in three games of four games, excuse me, and
lost by twenty two, by three, by eleven, and by two.
And in those games, you know, Steph Curry was better
pronounced Lee better. You know, I mean game game one
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last year, for example, Damian Lillard nineteen points, four of
twelve from the field, six assists, seven turnovers. Steph Curry, well,
Steph Curry ho hum had thirty six points, you know,
and you go, well, you know he had, he had,
Kevin durand y had. Okay, Like we can kind of
go round and round about who's on whose team. Steph
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Curry took twenty three shots at thirty six points, also
had seven assists and only had one turnover. Like there's
there's no there's no conversation for head to head who's
a better player. It's either Stefford or Damian Lillard. And
that doesn't mean Damian Lillard stinks. I'm not trying to
make that argument. Game two, by the way, Steph had
twenty seven and eight. See met seven and eight, thirty
(04:33):
seven and eight, Like he just set the tone. You know,
you go back to two thousand and seventeen. I mean, look,
three of the past four years, three of the past
four years, the Golden State Warriors have beaten the Portland Trailblazers.
And as good as Damian Lillard has been, and he's
(04:55):
been spectacular times, Steph Curry has been that much better.
And it's it's a lot like when we get to
the Tears in NFL Quarterbacks, Like nobody's saying Matt Ryan stinks.
Matt Ryan was the MVP of the league, a really
good player got to a super Bowl. Is up twenty
three in Super Bowl. But as Matt Ryan the class
of Aaron Rodgers, no seeing the class of bat Mahomes. No,
(05:19):
he's just not. We've seen those two guys, and Matt
Ryan's team beat Aaron Rodgers team to go to the
super Bowl. Here they went to the super Bowl, but
that wasn't about Matt Ryan. Right. You see the two
head ahead next to each other, and you just know.
And that's one of the things that the playoffs gives us.
And you know, I think, I don't know how you
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guys viewed Damian Lillard. He's just he's not in that
category of if Steph's healthy, step is above him. He's
obviously not in the Lebron category or the Kauai category,
with the Janis category. I mean, big thing is he's
a smaller guard, and he's not a great defender to
begin with, and it's hard to affect the game when
you're not a great defender and you're small Steph's impact.
(06:04):
He's good at getting steals. Steph impact is so big
offensively that it does marginalize some of the defensive inadequatec
some not all, not all. Um. So, I just if
if you want to tell me that he's a top
twenty player in the NBA, I will absolutely agree with you.
(06:27):
If you want to tell me that he is a superstar,
I don't. He's a great for a basketball player. He's
a great rapper. He's got a cool image, he's got
a cool shoe. It's a good cool saying Dame time
like all that stuff is cool. But as a basketball player,
he's not one of the ten best players in the
league because if he was, they wouldn't have been a
(06:48):
nine seed before they got their big guy back. That's
the ten best players in the league, do yes, right? Music,
So is Portland's one of those teams where Damien they
will never win a championship if Damian Lillard's always their
best player. And why is it that Portland has never
been that place that can get the big free agent
(07:10):
if they have a backcourt like Damian Lillard and c
J McCollum um. If it feels like they're like that
and I know it was never really on Kauai's list,
but like when you're able to get a player like
a Kauai or Kevin Durant, that that next tier of
like wing player to sort of take some of the
pressure off a dame. Is it because he requires such
(07:32):
a high volume of shots? Is it because Portland's not
one of those big, glamorous markets. It always feels like,
you know, they used to be, even before McCollum, it
was LaMarcus Aldridge and Damian Lillard and you know they
had their little success in the first couple of rounds
of the playoffs, but they've just never been able to
get that big name player. I would say it's that
there's there's a little bit bout you know, they almost
(07:54):
got LaMarcus Aldridge a couple of years and they had
the Marcus Aldridge, they couldn't keep him. I don't know,
you now, I'm not a big market size guy, but
I would say market sizes is a big factor, is
a really big factor. Um hmm, that's a hard one.
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I don't know. Um. I would say mostly it's mostly
market sized more than anything. And just you know, those
two guys also make a ton of money, and so
you're gonna have to kind of fit a guy in there.
They just never been able to to get one. Yeah,
I would. I would say market sizes that you know,
they're not l a and I like Portland's. I mean
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it's one of those places where I know it's been
on fire here the last month because of all the protests,
but it's a very very cool city with awesome suburbs
to live in. You know, you get by water. It's
it's not as remote as Seattle was back when they're
an NBA Team's ton of passion, good fans. You got
Nike based there, you got Adidas based there. Like, there's
some really good things. But I would say, um uh,
(09:01):
I would say to me, hm, to me, it has
to do with market size more than anything, and just
kind of the glamour of the Portland Trailblazers. It's not
a historic franchise. You know, the Celtics. Boston is not
a huge market, but it's the Boston Celtics. Look, the
Knicks have had the number one market size and they
haven't been able to get guys either. It's not easy
(09:23):
to get free agents. But I would say it's mostly
market size and location. Uh, kind of combined Doug Gotlip
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio WAP Doug
Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Can we all agree that
Derek Carr is he's one of these guys that kind
of make our break time for amou just feels like that,
It feels like this, this is it's either now or
never if you're Derek Carr, now or never. And uh,
(10:09):
I don't think it'll be never, but I'm not sure
it'll be now. And with this team, it's just a
weird such a weird existence for him, you know, very
strange existence. You know, here's a guy who is a
really really good player, really good talented player, but he's
(10:31):
not great, He's not a superstar. He just kind of
a just good He's that What do you what do
you guys? What do you think third tiers? That where
where we go with third tier as far as quarterbacks concerned. Yeah,
I would say that's good. Third tier. Um, so I
(10:52):
don't know third tiers about right, That's who he is,
third tier quarterback. M hm and uh, it's it's just
interesting to watch people's reactions when Derek Carr says this
talking about his current reputation. I have lots of proof
to myself. I have a lot to prove to tomorrow
(11:12):
and say something. I'm gonna be complete. Honestly, I'm sorry
of being disrespected. So there was no question I was
gonna play this year, no question. Did somebody questions without
it he would play? Was that? Is that the Is
that the heart of it? Right? Like we do we
do this thing where we're like, well A, you're gonna
opt out quarterbacks? Are they're not opting out? Look, here's
(11:33):
the first thing with the opting out. I understand if
you have a baby at home. I understand if you
if you're you have some pre existing health condition. I
can we continue to point out that the breakdowns in
the baseball bubble have been about guys going off campus,
(11:55):
if you will, guys not taking the personal responsibility. That's
what they're not doing. Are you asking a lot? I
guess you know, you're a young athlete, you got some money,
you're in a foreign town. You're like, I don't want
to eat. I don't want to just eat at the
hotel and the specific food from the specificy. Like, I
don't want to do that. Nobody wants to do it.
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But with the alternative is you bring down the whole league.
So this idea that guys would opt out, I just
for the most part don't understand or agree with. I
just you're you're much safer if you're under the watchful
I of your team's doctors, whether you're sick or or
or whether you you fall victim to COVID. But for
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Derek Carr, he does have a lot to prove. Now,
he's smart and he's like, all allot to prove to myself.
You got a lot to prove to your coach. He
did survive the move. That was the big things, Like, man,
it's even gonna be it's even gonna be there when
they move. Yeah, he's gonna be there when they move,
absolutely going to be there when they move. But what
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about after that? After that? I have no idea. You know,
they bring in Marcus Mariota. They paid him seven half
million dollars. Marcus Mario has not been healthy. They in
love with him since, you know, since going back to
the NFL Draft. Mayok was in love with him. Gruden's
in love with him. And if you've ever met Marcus Mariota,
it's pretty hard and not really like the guy. This
is Daniel Jeremiah early in the show talking about Derek Carr.
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You need everything else to go well on the on
the other side of the ball, you know, the way
they're running the ball, they're kind of they've kind of
built their team to play to his strengths, which is
a little bit more you know, conservative in nature and
just being accurate, don't turn the football over, be a
physical team, you know. I think that kind of works
for him. I think this is gonna be the year,
I really do. I think this is the year we learn, uh,
(13:44):
whether or not he's the guy going forward or not.
And I you know, I think if if they were
to struggle, um, yeah, they like Marcus Mariota a lot.
So this is gonna be a big year for him.
It's gonna be a big year for him. And I
can't honestly tell you, I know, I don't think anybody
knows what's gonna happen. Do you you got any idea
what's what's gonna happen with market with with Derek Carr.
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Look at the Raiders schedule. Now, Remember they're not gonna
like this could have been perfect for him because here's
a guy that needs people to believe in him, and
he's not gonna have you got that beautiful home stadium,
and he's not gonna get a chance to you know,
not gonna like you would be. Their first home game
is against New Orleans Saints, Like, can you imagine that
(14:28):
atmosphere if they had fans there. Now, you're gonna play
in a dome against New Orleans Saints, a dome team
that is a super Bowl favorite or Super Bowl pick
for some people. They opened up at Carolina matter rules
never coached in the NFL before. You know, you got
Teddy Bridgewater as a starting quarterback who doesn't throw it,
doesn't throw it down field ton You know that that's
(14:49):
almost a completely new team outside of Christian McCaffrey. You
can win that game that New Orleans at homes a
hard game. Um, you go to New England Buffalo at
home at Kansas City, like it gets rough after a while.
You know, this is the thing about the Antonio Brown experiment.
Really they wanted to see what they had and Derek
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Carr like, now we give you the weapons, what do
you got? And of course Antonio Brown blowing up and
having to be traded. You really bought Derek Carr time.
But Derek car time. Now they draft Rugs, who takes
the top off of defense, less excuses, more time his team.
Mariota is the backup. They told you all you need
(15:31):
to know by bringing in Mariota's backup. If they want
to bring in like an Andy Dalton for a couple
million a year, granted he's from Texas, is that they
would have done it. They paid seven half million dollars
because they are not convinced at all that Derek Carr
is the guy. Let's get you Dan Byron and find
out what else is going on in the world sports TV?
What again? Can I add a little something to this
because I do find it interesting to your point. The
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it's not like the Raiders brought in a guy who
was night and day from Derek Carr. They brought in
the same guy who is probably just more mobile and
able to run the ball. Because when you look at
what happened in Tennessee. Part of what made Ryan Tannehill
effective is that they actually threw the ball down in
the field, threw the ball to a J. Brown, something
(16:14):
that Marcus Mariotta maybe wouldn't do in Nashville. So now
when you're in Oakland and one of the Knox On
Derek Carr, has been uh, you know, checkdowns and and
not being able to challenge the field vertically, Um, yeah,
I don't think that it bodes well. And it's actually
a bit of a similar situation that what Mariota was in,
except he was on the other side of it a
year ago, where you just kind of have a guy
(16:35):
maybe sitting there waiting in the wings and someone's on
their last shot. So plus you paying Mariota seven million
dollars a year to be your backup quarterback, and that's
another deal. Be sure to catch the live edition of
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Ross Dellinger joins us on The Doug gotlib Show. College
Football Insider for Sports Illustrated. What as of today it's
(16:58):
August fifth, How confident? How confident are you that we
will have the season start when they're now proposing it
will start. Not as uh, certainly not as confident as
I was probably June five, Um, but uh, and and
(17:19):
it seems like every day, Doug, we have a list
or the hurdle just gets higher, you know, the obstacles
get more and more. If we were on a race track,
there's higher hurdles and more of them. It seems like
every day. Um. Whether that's the you know, the rising
cases in in certain places, uh, the outbreaks on on campuses,
(17:41):
the fear that administrators have in the return of students
to campus. Uh, you know, colleges shutting down because of
cases on the team. It's uh, it's it's kind of
one thing after another. Players now bowing out, you know,
opting out. Some high profile players have already opted out.
And I'm sure that's just the first of the dominoes.
(18:04):
So I am not, no, not super confident um that
that we can start as early as some teams want to,
which is August twenty nine, I think is the the
kind of the week zero in college football. I think
with the SEC did in the Pact twelve, putting the
(18:24):
day at September gives you more times certainly some I'm
a little more confident in that date, but my overall
confidence in completing a season, uh is less than just
the way we're going right now. Um okay, I mean
I guess I guess the first thing is, like you
have this mix. Some schools don't have kids back on campus,
(18:47):
some sec kids reporting to campus already. Uh, they're modifying
the classes. I guess that the challenges, the challenges really
one the testing, quarantining kids, then keeping them from going
to these parties while they're while they're there, right, I
mean then't that really the challenge that is that? I mean,
the latter one is is the biggest challenge of all. Uh.
(19:10):
We saw it today. Louisville announced that four athletic teams.
All activities have been stopped for those teams because there's
an outbreak which was uh surprise, surprise, trace back to
a house party. Um in in we're gonna have that
in college. We reported a few couple of months ago,
(19:31):
l s U down in Baton Rouge had a big
outbreak that was traced to a night out at a
local nightclub in Baton Rouge, Kansas State. I think I
sat down workouts for a little while because of a
house party. So these are issues where they're not gonna
disappear during the season. Kids are just gonna all of
(19:52):
a sudden disappear or not want to go out to
the bar, or not want to go hang out with
with their friends. So we're gonna have these issues. Assisted
This is a big difference, gug between pro sports in
college is in pro you can have a bubble, as
we're seeing successfully with the NBA and MLS. In college,
(20:13):
you cannot the pertinent one. The players are younger, not
gonna make as um prudent of decisions. Number Two, you
have all these other students on campuses or at least
getting married later this month, and you're gonna have potentially
have spikes because of that. These student athletes are gonna
(20:34):
be going there because they're going to two classes with
other students um and they're not paid, you know, so
you can't really sequester them like you could a pro athlete.
So the college ross, you absolutely can. The team teams
go to training camps, teams have you basically have athletic dorms,
(20:54):
which I know they've kind of eliminated it's got to
be students or whatever. But they find a way to
have an basically an athlete wing or they live off campus,
that live all together. You absolutely can, you know, quarantine
them doesn't mean isolate them, but quarantine them. And you
absolutely can ask guys to not go out. You can.
It happens all the time, like in California schools or
(21:17):
Colorado schools. Like you can't smoke weed even if the
rest of the school can't, even if it's legal in
the state. You can't burn say, but you can absolutely
ask guys to do something that regular students aren't asked
to do because they get the privilege of playing college football.
I probably should rephrase you. You certainly can do you
you can. You can put them in a bubble um,
but uh will they you know, will college leaders do that?
(21:41):
And they won't. They won't. They already have come out
and said they're not going to do that because part
of it is because all this absolute compensation and i
L stuff going on and going on in Congress. They
don't want any in any way to seem like athletes
are different from students, even though we know they are. Um,
they don't want it to seem like that. They don't
want to seem like their employees, so they're they're not
(22:03):
gonna do it. And about the thing about the bar,
I mean, come on, you know, we all went to college.
You can ask a college kid not to do something.
I guess we're gonna do a purposely probably the next
day do it, you know, So that that's the that's
the issue there. Yeah, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm just gonna
disagree with you that the many of the things that
takes to be a great athlete, it takes personal discipline, right,
(22:24):
and personal accountability. That that's what you that's one of
the things you like learned in colleges. You know, if
you get a scholarship check, like all right, well, I
gotta make this work for the month took up. The
next one happens when you get money from home, you know,
I all right, I gotta learn how to manage this
until I get the next amount of money from my parents.
And I do think you can ask them, especially because
in terms of bars, there's just a limit to the
number of kids that can actually go to a bar.
(22:45):
I understand, guys, A fake I d s um. I
don't know. I I'm intrigued to see how this thing
plays out, you know, like I've we saw the spike early.
For Clemson, they haven't reported positive tests since. Same thing
for Oklahoma. Their first test was like nineteen that tests positive,
none since, and they seem to be going all going
headlong into it. Let'st's start with the Big ten thing.
(23:06):
What do you take of the new players tribute article,
which it says it's thousands of Big Ten athletes, although
I'm curious why no one put their name on it,
and then they included an A, A D two, Like
I actually think you protect yourself more if you put
your name on it. That way, you know that nobody
can cut your scholarship or you know what I mean.
(23:26):
I'm surprised there's no names on it. Uh. Well, yeah,
and you remember that that you know, the PACTWEL did
something similar Pact twel players, and there were only eleven
players on uh that put their name to the PAC
twelve deal when they sent the letter to Larry Scott
on Sunday, was just eleven of them. And from what
I understand, no team in the PAC twelve is more
(23:48):
than three players who say they're kind of part of
the movement, who say that they will boycott if they
don't if these demands aren't matt Now, there are a
lot of players out there that are, um, you know,
for the movement, support their teammates, support the movement, but
they're not gonna opt out. They have already some of
them already come out and publicly said it. Uh. You know,
(24:10):
as far as the Big tenure right there, there's not
there's not any names there, um which you you question that. However,
the Big Ten's letter is much more reasonable. You know.
Their their list of demands is just around the COVID
nineteen precautions and things like that. As the fact, twelve
demands were for of athletic departments revenue basically, which is
(24:35):
never going to happen. I think we know that's never
going to happen. You know, they wanted some coaches to
take a cut in salary, and I think the commissioner
as well. So the Big Ten's list of demands, they're
they're a little more reasonable, They make a lot more sense,
and I think they're gonna get a lot of them. Um.
You know, I think of vast majority, if not all,
of them will be met, and a lot of them
are already in the process, you know, the process of
(24:56):
being met. By the Big Ten there in their protocols
and uch Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Trail.
What's crazy about it is it does feel like he
was setting up to be a great year in college football, right.
Like you have these two quarterbacks in Ohio I want
to Ohio State and one at Clemson, and they seem
to be on a crash course. And I think maybe
(25:17):
Texas is back this year. Obviously Oklahoma is gonna have
a new looking It's like fascinating that kind of selfishly
as guys that love and cover the sport, Uh, we're
waiting and we have no idea what this thing it
looked like. And of all the sports that is affected
by home field, to pomp and circumstance in the pageantry
of campus football is incredible. It's gonna be interesting see
(25:40):
what this looks like if there's no fans in the stands,
even if they have games. It is let me think
about just through all of sports. You know what what
sports have, uh, the the biggest homefil advantage? And I
think it's college basketball number one. I think it's college
football probably number two. You know you like you said,
do you think of the just the environment and and Uh,
(26:03):
the all all everything that goes into a game day
on a college campus, and it is a huge advantage.
It's gonna be odd when we turn on our TV
in a hundred thousand seed stadium has fifteen thousand people
in it, because if you talk to architects of venues
and then you talk to doctors and you talk to administrators,
(26:23):
you cannot socially distance a a stadium and have more
than one third of it full. It's it's basically impossible
when you when you talk to them. So a lot
of administrators are coming out hoping for you know, of
their stadium full. That that just seems like, um a
(26:45):
stretch until I think we're gonna see at most stadiums
and it will be very odd, be very odd in
the in the press box to Doug, you know, I
don't expect full press boxes. We're gonna be up there
and it's probably gonna be a third or a quarter full.
Ross tellents you joining us dog gotlib show here on
Fox Sports Radio. UM Yukon cancels their season. A lot
(27:10):
of it comes down to, look, they're an independent's hard
to find games. Is there a chance you can football
doesn't come back at the Division one level. Oh yeah,
I think there's uh, I think they're definitely a chance
in that we I mean, I think it's been well
documented the uh some of the issues that you know,
financially that that that Yukon has. I mean a lot
(27:30):
of these smaller d On programs in these group of
five programs, they don't make money. Uh, their athletic department
doesn't make money. Football program doesn't necessarily make money. And uh,
right now, in the financial situation that they're all staring
at with this pandemic, um, yeah, it would uh, it
would make a lot of sense for a few of
(27:51):
them to fold it up. So I'm not sure that's
going to happen there, but I would not be shocked
if if you know, that that does happen and they
maybe even uh use the pandemic as a way to
usher out of sport. We've seen that, Doug, We've seen
that around the nation this summer, a lot of sports
(28:12):
have been kind of thinking up to fifty or fifty
five Division one sports teams have been cut in a
lot of administrators are using the pandemic to do that,
you know, to save money and cut an Olympic sports
that loses half a million dollars a year, and then
you have Alabama, who's given out new contracts today. Yeah,
it's like a difference right there. Yeah, the gap between
(28:35):
the gap between the power five in in everybody else
in Division one is growing and growing. And that's a
good example of it. Yeah, it's a great example of it.
Right And but but you know, my take on some
of this is, Hey, some of this was coming anyway, right,
Like this is it's a lot like J. C. Penny
(28:55):
going under during the pandemic. It's like j C. Penny
was going under anyway. There was already a massive division
between the halves and the have nots and the possibility
of the power five breaking way, and this is only
going to speed up that process. It's not something that's
only happened because of the pandemic. Sure, sure it put
it on the fast track. You know, the pandemic. It
exposed it and put it on the fast track. And uh,
(29:18):
you know what, I know it's um it's it's you
hear this every off season, the talk of the split
between the power prop in the n c A. It's
like this talking point it seems like every off season,
and this year it just feels like we're we are,
We're closer and closer and closer to to it happening
because we're seeing now the pandemic has shine a light
(29:40):
on how big of gap of a gap there is,
not just between not just between an SEC team, say
in in some group of five team, but but heck,
I mean in an SEC team, in in a in
a you know, smaller packed roll team or something, or
I mean you're you're. The gap is really why iied
(30:00):
between several levels, and and it's a cliche, but it's true.
It is a broken model, and the whole n c
A structure is a broken model, and we're going to
see in years from now that it is going to
be changing fairly quickly. Okay, so what does it change
and look like? Well, I think I think eventually you
you you see the Power five do their own thing.
(30:22):
They're already shoot, I mean, they're already down the road
on it, right. They already have the Autonomy five rules
that they operate by that are different than others. I
mean the Autonomy five uh presidents, and chances they meet
separately from everybody else. Sometimes a lot of times, especially
during this pandemic, um that that that's happened. So certainly
(30:43):
they separate often you can see them do their own thing,
have their own championship. Group five teams maybe have their
own championship. Everybody has its uh its own division, and
and things are things a little more maybe uh competitive.
You know, it's it's kind of a to look and
and see that in Alabama with a budget of a
(31:04):
hundred and whatever thirty million dollars is playing an FCS
team with a bunchet of eight million dollars, Like, why
are we doing that? And now the pandemic is showing
that we we shouldn't be Probably doing that, Yeah, probably
shouldn't be. Although it does help fund the lower level
athletic department and then it it fills the conference of
all Tuscaloosa where they filled the bars in the restaurants
(31:26):
and allows them to play all those other guys. Gonna
be gonna be an interesting year. We'll see, we'll see
if it it gets started, we'll see if it gets completed.
In the meantime, can't wait to read and listen to
your work. Ross, thanks so much for joining us on
Fox Sports Radio. Sure, Ross Dellinger College Football Insider Sports
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live the press dann BYO what he got. Doug let
starts with the Big Ten Conference unveiling their schedule for
(32:08):
the upcoming season. Ten games is what we thought all along,
conference only. It will start Thursday, September three, so they
will be playing that Labor Day weekend. The season, though
would end on November twenty one. Each school will have
to bye weeks. There will be flexible dates being available
as well in late November. In fact, the entire Eastern
Division and I believe Illinois in the Western Division will
(32:31):
all have one week off in November, while the other
schools in the Western Division will have a separate week
off and Doug November been completely cleared out. If they
have to move any games till later on in the season,
November twenty would have been when Ohio State in Michigan
played That's not gonna happen. They're gonna play on October October.
That's moved up a great deal right normally to Nomah.
(32:55):
They maybe maybe that maybe that helps hardball's luck and
hardball doesn't have to go to Ohiose State in the
full horse shoe. Now maybe they'll have maybe they have fans,
maybe they have no fans, we don't know. For years,
it used to be in the weekend leading up to Thanksgiving.
Then when the the schedules expanded, they moved it to
the weekend after and now it'll just be the week
end before Halloween. So something to uh to look forward to.
(33:18):
You touched on this just a little while ago, but
the Yukon football program will not have a season in
players will remain on scholarship as the Huskies are the
first FBS school to opt out of the upcoming season.
There's a lot that goes into it. They've been hemorrhaging money. Uh,
they pulled out of the American Athletic Conference. They're set
to be an independent. I'm sure there. I'm sure they're
struggling to find games. And the big question is will
(33:40):
they will they ever come back? Will they ever come back?
And I don't know, I don't have the answer for that,
you know, I should have tied they said with a
Big ten. But the Big ten players in a piece
in the Players Tribune and had their own piece that
they sent out like the Pack twelve players did. The
Big Ten United group had about a thousand football players
demanding that they that the n C double a focus
on player safety entering the college football season. You know
(34:02):
what's funny is why did they lead with the we
have thousand players? Why would they lead with that? There
aren't a thousand players in the Big Ten. Maybe five
scholarships you would have to have. I'm trying to think
five fourteen schools. Is that a thousand? I think just barely.
That would mean every guy has signed up for it.
(34:25):
Like you're just you're doing things that hurt your credibility,
going like we have thousands of players, Like yet, no
you don't. You don't have everybody signed up. And again many,
at least in this one. Many of the asks in
turn of COVID are fairly reasonable. But when you start
with the we have a thousand, and you're like, yeah,
we included D two, N, A, I A some other stragglers,
(34:46):
you know, like that's not really even close to a thousand,
But I mean, you know, they threw in there some pork,
like hey, can we get free access to the Big
ten network? Which I get, Like, hey we if you
can't um, if you can't go to see the games,
(35:06):
can you see your kid play on TV? But like
now we're paying for your cable bill? Does that work
a special code? Doug. The Memphis Grizzlies are oh in
four now in the Orlando Bubble. Lost to the Jazz
today on this team also lost Jr. And Jackson Jr.
For the rest of the NBA season with a torn meniscus.
He obviously didn't play today. But tough goings for Memphis,
(35:30):
who gotta feel they were slidded anyway for having to
be in that eight nine situation. Now they could be
falling completely out of the eight nine matchup of things
continue this way. Tough going obviously for the Philadelphia seventy
six years two. I don't know if you saw this,
uh uh. Ben Simmons left the game with a I
don't know. He's limping when he walked out the floor.
They're up seventy seventy four nearing the end of the
(35:51):
third quarter against the Wizards. Doug in day baseball. The
uh Phillies lead the Yankees by a score of six
to three on the top of the sixth inning. Because
this game is going on right now, we can't play
a highlight uh from the game, but I can play
one from when hit home run swung on driving it right.
It is high that us far us gone a three
(36:15):
run home run to give the Yankees a lead. Neil Walker,
the home run coocker. He drills on a deep right
and the Yankees once down for nothing, now take off
five four leaves that happened on augusteen, So just stop figured.
You know, we always love to hear from our boy
(36:36):
John Sterling. He's back today, right, He's been sick and
he's back, So welcome back down sting Neil Walker a
real home run. Cocker could go a lot of different ways,
but hey, try to oh man, try it is high?
Is far all rise? Oh man, he's there's a lot.
(36:59):
Oh it's going on. There a lot going on. Marlin's
lead the Orioles. Actually it's scoreless. Um in a game
that I don't know how many people care about. Hey,
but hey, the Marlins with all those games missed, still
in the playoff picture, Like when you look at the standings,
they're still there. That's the press. Get out there and pressed.
That was the press. Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.
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(37:42):
on these games is you don't always know who's gonna play,
you know, Like, I'll be interested to see Lakers, who
clinched the one seed taking on the thunder Lakers are
five and a half point favorite, Raptors are seven a
half point favorite taking on the Magic, and the Nets
are taking on the Celtics. Nets played great and they
beat the didn't they beat the Bucks? Like with all backups? Yeah,
(38:03):
that means I take the Celtics today, right, Like just
the idea that they're playing with backups. Jamal Crawford got
hurt in his first game back, right, give me the
Celtics and that eight and a half points. There's my
pick of the night. Have a great nights. Doug Gotlip Show,
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