October 12, 2020 • 37 mins
Doug discusses the Raiders win over the Chiefs and why people need to start giving Jon Gruden more credit for turning the franchise around. FOX Sports lead college football analyst Joel Klatt joins the show to talk about the exciting 4 overtime game between Oklahoma and Texas.
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Tug got Leave Show Fox Sports Radio coming for your heads.
The massive silliness from hot takers out there who have
said downright stupid, uneducated things that are wrong in the
world of sports. I mean, it's it's comical to me
that I got trolls that are like last year you said,
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you know, last year, gotly this is the voice of
the internet dork, right, George Kettle ant block. He's a
bad Blocker's not what I said. I said, He's not
really a blocker. He's a great pass catcher who has
bought in to that, to their scheme where you have
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to get off people and get and get down the
field and block. For what they do. For a guy
who's a great pass catcher, he's quite good as a blocker.
And it was mostly comparison to Gronk. Who oh yeah.
By the way, ask anybody who watches Tampa's film that
while Gronk can't get out of a break anymore, you
know what, he can still do block The best blocking
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tight ends in the NFL you have never heard of.
Do you know why? Because they don't catch passes. That's
what Rob Gronkowski was different. That was what the discussion
was about. But that was actually off of a It
was like a side topic we talked about with Cowherd,
off the discussion I have with a couple of NFL
front office people actually talking to people inside the profession,
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which is the opposite of you know, j Williams saying
that Lebron should have shot over three or four guys
on Friday Night said have passed the ball to a
wide open Danny Green. Like that's just the hot takers,
silly talk, trying to get attention stuff. What's comical about
that play was right before the play happened, my son said,
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where's Caruso? And I was like, now you take Caruso out,
and you put Contavious Callwell Pope in, and you put
Danny Green in. He's like, why, I said, because you're
not the ball is not gonna go to offense. They're
not gonna go to defense. Those guys Cruises a defensive player.
Rondo is a defensive player or a full court player
in the half court, it's gonna be Lebron and he
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wants a ball screen. And we know exactly you know
who he wanted to go after. He was he was
going after a mismatch. Do you know where he was going?
What mismatch he was going after? Pretty obvious Duncan Robinson,
who we got, so they double teamed the ball. He
passes to the open shoot her misses a shot like
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that's basketball one oh one. Go at the weakest defender
with your best player. That's what they did. If whoever
over helps, that's the open guy. If you're a nonshooter,
you cut. If you're a shooter, you spot up, get
your spot. Danny Green's more of a corner three point shooter.
But he was wide open. He was a good shot.
It wasn't a great pass, and Lebron owned it as much.
And it wasn't a great shot. He earned nearly air bold.
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I've heard it all from guys like Stephen A when
when John Gruden got the job. Oh the overpaid ms
D million dollars. Oh, he doesn't know what he's doing.
It's a disaster. How can you trade away Khalil Mack?
I'm reading then trading Mark Cooper? What are they doing? Yeah,
I'm I'm reading a website right now, sports casting dot Com.
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I've neverive I just happened to google John Gruden mistake
And somebody named Steven Sheehan wrote an article in April
two thousand twenty about the ten year, hundred million dollar
contract which is going to be a mistake. And then
I watched the Raiders yesterday and look, anyone who is
realistic about the NFL draft in two thousan nineteen, you're like, well,
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if you want to pick out individual picks that the
Raiders have missed on, you'd be right. Hey, it is
absolutely fair for you to say, hey, I look at
this pick. I look at that pick. I don't love it.
Do you know who goes seven for seven? If they
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have seven NFL draft picks, that would be zero? Like
the game is the same in college football and recruiting
as it is in the NFL. With drafting. It's a
volume deal, right because some guys and look, you have
to do a ton of about background research. Some guys
implode because of personal issues. Some guys implode because they
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don't actually have the speed that you need, and it's
hard to evaluate them, hard to evaluate them at their level,
or they get injured, or you ta change schemes and
they only fit a certain scheme. But the the the
idea is generally the more opportunities you get with young
draft picks and you educate yourself as well as you
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can on prospects, your hit rates somewhere in the sixtent
variety free agency, it's a little bit harder. It's like
a thirty three hit rate. How do I know these numbers.
NFL people have told me you need to hit more
on your first round picks. It's a higher hit right there.
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But it's generally two thirds of the draft picks live
up to whatever billing you have when you draft them.
Perfect example, Okay, uh uh, what's Farrell's first name? Cleveland Farrell.
It is a good player, all right, but but clearly
with Josh Allen drafted behind him than cluding Farrell went
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I think fourth overall. Josh Allen I think was the
next pick with the Jacksonville Jaguars Allan's a better player,
but he's Clil is a good player and supposedly a
great chemistry guy, and their locker room has really good chemistry. Now,
Max Crosby was a six round pick, and I haven't
gone through and look at Jacksonville's fifth or six round picks,
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but I guarantee he's better than whoever Jacksonville got in
the fifth and sixth round. The point is that you're
gonna hit some, you're gonna miss some. But the plan
is to get as many picks and to remake yourself
and to build around a solid, steady quarterback and figure
out if you give him enough weapons, if he can
do just enough to beat the other team. They gave
him a running back last year, and they got Rugs
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this year. With Rugs healthy, their offense looks completely different.
And the defense isn't great, but it's getting better. It's
getting more talented. And when they had Khalil Mac they
weren't a good defense. They had a great player. Okay,
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they had one great player. Look he gotta keep for
trading Mary Cooper. I don't know if any other wide
receivers are as good as a Mary Cooper, but I
can tell you this that if you have to pay
a hard Mark Cooper a hund million dollars as they
didn't want to, that would change everything, and that pick
ends up becoming Rugs becomes a very very talented, far
lesser paid, healthy young wide receiver. And I wasn't healthy always.
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But yes, when you talk to NFL people and he
got the job, most everybody's like, yeah, eventually, that will work.
He's a really good football guy who happened to be
a kind of quirky guy on TV. I think people
lost track of John Gruden. They're like, oh, these are
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just quirks and this is just like no, he was
always like that. He wasn't playing a character. He's just
football guy, like the John Gruden quarterback camp, like when
he bring guys in. That was because he actually would
watch film, talk to guys, basically do mock drafts like
he had. That's all he does, and he was waiting
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for the opportunity. The only reason that they had to
pay him a hundred million dollars was the crazy money
he was making. It was gonna make from ESPN if
he was right now. The Raiders actually got him in
a discount because you know what it would have happened
had he stayed at ESPN, Romo gets seventeen, he's gonna
get eighteen or somewhere in that they read. Instead, he
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got somewhere in the neighborhood of ten a year for
ten years, which at the time felt like a lot
of money. But in order to get a guy to change,
he's a lifetime appointment. That was like a Supreme Court appointment,
lifetime appointment on Monday night football. Because he was really,
really good and really well prepared and totally knew the
sport and was a super he was he was the
new age Madden. The only way to get him off
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of that perch is to over pay him for far
too long. And you know what, they probably end up
underpaying him because the plan is working. The Raiders are good,
they are young, they are getting better, they are competing
in every game they've played against a ridiculous schedule, and
right now they got their head above water. So all
of you who said it wouldn't work it was dumb
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to see the league had passed him by. How can
you sit in a booth for ten years and now
can you trade away Khalil Mack and traded Mary Cooper
This guy right here told you like or dislike the Raiders,
the plan makes complete sense and eventually it'll make them
a really good team. Well, they have a great team.
I don't know. I don't know if did Derek car
is a great quarterback. I don't know if they can
take that next step to being an elite team. You
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gotta do it weekend, week out. But they had made one.
They made the playoffs once in like nineteen years, and
it was the weirdest year. They went for it on
fourth down a bunch of times. You know, they went
for two. They want a bunch of crazy, crazy games.
And if you remember back the rest of the teams
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in the division, we're all kind of dysfunctional. Right now,
the division is pretty darn good. Chargers, notwithstanding, with a
bunch of injuries. Denver obviously a bunch of injuries. They're
going to beat Kansas City in Kansas City, granted with
no fans, but they outscored Kansa City in Kansas City
and pick off Pat Mahomes a couple of times in
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key spots. If you don't think it's going to work,
the Raiders have passed you by the league hasn't passed
him by coming up next, the Browns kind of look
like a real football team. Um, here's what's weird. I
think I know what they're who their weakest link is,
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and trying to hide that is actually a little bit
more difficult then you would think. I'll explain that next.
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gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon
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Whap Doug Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio. We went three
in two this past week on our NFL picks, which
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is not great, but you know what it's not. It's
not losing money. And three and two again, you just
keep piling up. Wins Keep was that that pat Riley
and he put that chip in every day, right, So
we went three into One of the picks that I
really liked was the Cleveland Browns. And the Cleveland Browns
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have become a damn good football team, by the way,
indian Indianapolis is really good, and I think their weak
link is the same link link as the Browns. Like
I can love Philip Rivers and tell you he hasn't
always been a great uh one score quarterback like he
does now he's bad. He just he has to guess
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early because he's always been immobile. He hurts. She can't
really run screen game with him because he can't move.
His arm isn't what you used to be. He's always
kind of had that funky throwing motion. Now he just
kind of guesses and throws some and just the ball
dies at times, especially outdoors that they're gonna play indoors,
I know, most of the season, but uh, I felt
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like he just died at time yesterday. But I look
at the Browns and I'm like, that's a good football team. Right.
Offensive line is moving people that are running the football.
You know, they had two running backs. Now they have one,
but they're still and they got quality wide receivers, a
good tight end. The offensive line is rebuilt, and I
thought rebuilt pretty smartly. And look, I didn't like I
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don't think I'm the only one who would say this
that you know. I thought the act last year against
the Pittsburgh Steelers of Myles Garrett it was ridiculous, and
the statements he made about being called in something that
he didn't say for weeks on end. Then all of
a sudden he comes up with it when he's trying
to get out of out of suspension. I didn't, but
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Myles Garrett's help football player. You know Myles Garrett and
Sheldon Ridgards did when they have Olivier Vernon, And you know,
Denzel Ward has been a good draft pick, been a
good draft pick. I like Anderson, Uh, let me see
Andrew Sendejo as well as her safety. Like that's a
good that's a good football team. Do you know who
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I think their weakest part of the football team is.
I feel like it's quarterback now. When Baker Mayfield came out,
Just so everybody is fair and understanding of where I stood.
I didn't care about what was seen as off the
field noise. That never anyone I talked to at the
University of Oklahoma was like, dude, as a leader, he's
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a real deal. Guys will kill for Baker. But and
this is the big point that you better have a
team that has really good talent because he does not
have carry you talent. He just doesn't. That's not who
he is. He's really His intangibles are off the chart.
His tangibles are so so at best. Baker Mayfield, despite
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having an outstanding running game, his completion percentage passer ratings.
They are leading the league in rushing, which means his
completion percentage should be off the charts because you're you're
dedicating at least two, if not three, linebackers if you're
in a four three two to the run. And it's
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not like they don't have nice weapons, right, I mean
you've got oh b J. And you got Jarvis Landry,
and you got Austin Hooper. Like that's three just those guys,
and they have others, three outstanding weapons. And Kareem Hunt,
when healthy, can catch past sid of the backfield, right,
So you kind of look around here and you're like,
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wait a second, what's their weak link? Baker Mayfield? Now
that that's okay. If you're dominating, you're running the football
and you're kind of high in it. But I don't
know how long. This is kind of what the Rams
did with Jared Goff a couple of years ago. You
have a dominant running game, like Kareem Hunt is outstanding.
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By the way, I feel really good for Cody Parkey
making that last that that late field goal that Donked in.
Did you guys see the Donkin field goal? If you
know anything about Cody Parkey, Like he actually had a
really really good year I think with the what the
Bears a couple of years ago. Yeah, it was with
the Bears, and then the Dolphins signed him as a
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free agent. He's from Florida and he just really struggled.
He struggled the last couple of years. But he's a
very very good kicker. But you got Ernest Johnson, who
had never heard of before yesterday running the football. He
had a twenty eight yard run. I love, by the way,
my my son. I told my son that Contavious was.
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Actually we didn't him Haze, but Contavious was. It was
a quick runner up the Ernest Johnson, uh kid out
of South Florida. Second year guy. He he has a monster, dude.
He had a big run yesterday. I like the Browns team.
I think what's interesting about it is despite the fact
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that he was the number one overall pick in a
Heisman Trophy winner, I feel like Baker Mayfield is kind
of quietly their weak link that they're trying to hide
that he's just okay, which is smart. So it's okay,
Like you can still win a lot of football games
with a quarterback who's just fine, who's just okay. You
just can't turn it over to him. And you know
there are times in the second half we let's put
him back in the shotgun and everybody knows he's gonna pass,
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and that's not where he's great. And this is the
difference in Freddie Kitchens last year, who was beholden to
Baker Mayfield as a quarterback and let's just drop back
forty five times a game and let him sling it
and throw it and get it to our weapons. Whereas
you bring you're bringing Kevin Stefanski, who look, man, I
was able to at the SEC chat at your game
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with with case Keenum, We're able to win a playoff
game on the road with Kirk Cousins, I've been here before.
We can hide some of your deficiencies. If we get
you to get the team to run the football that
that plan works. Does it winn your Super Bowl? Probably not,
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but it gets you to be in a viable reputable
They are four and one on this season, and they're
legitimately that good. I think they're a good, solid football team.
Now we'll find out how good is they play Pittsburgh
on the road. That play. Since then, the Raiders, the Texans,
the Eagles. These are all pretty high caliber teams coming up,
but I do think that Baker, talent wise, is probably
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their weakest link. Still a great leader, still can make plays,
still can bail you out on play action. But as
long as you don't leave it all up to Baker,
I think you'll be okay. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. I cannot tell you
how much fun I had Saturday watching the Red River shootout, right,
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I mean, I liked watching Oklahoma lose last week, and
they nearly lost this week, but they felt like they
won the game three times, like had it won? Okay?
Then Texas scores at the end of regulation, and then
I think it was the third overtime, right, they stopped
Texas and then played for a field goal, and they
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have a good sophomore field goal kicker who just duck
hooks it right, And then of course in the fourth
overtime they do in fact win the game. Joe Clacket,
do you get overtime? Like? Is there? Like you hit
the fifth and you get you get double appearances for
calling a game? That loong. No, man, that's that's all
for free. I would I would do that for free too.
That's how fun that game was to call. I I mean,
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like you said, yes, it did feel like they wanted
three times. And then after Burkit the kicker for oh you,
after he hit that, I mean that was the worst
kick he sit in his entire career. I had Brian
Bosworth all over me on Twitter saying I gave the
kicker jinks, which you know what hindsight, we probably did
because we were talking about how good he was. But
I will tell you this, um, I thought that it
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was in the cards for Sam Ellinger to win and
for Texas to win that ballgame, and in lo and behold,
you know, the defense of all units for Oklahoma, the
defense comes up with the biggest play of the game
on that game ending interception. Yeah, and they got to
stop on the I think the third overtime as well,
like the defense did. I thought, like the only I
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didn't think Oklahoma should play for the field goal in
the third overtime just because college kickers, you know, like again,
that doesn't mean you have to play Lucy Goosey, but
really try and attack and get it to where it's
a a field goal you cannot miss, right, I would
absolutely agree with you. And the only thing that I
will say is that I think the the issues with
the ball control in the backfield led to him, Lincoln
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Riley playing that way. Remember Rattler had fumbled earlier and
you know, on one of the previous series right at
the end of the game and luckily they recovered it.
So the ball, I think he was nervous that, oh,
I could just run this out, but I've got running
really young running back. So they had seth McGowan out.
So you've got pleasure who's played the whole game. I
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hear you. And in the moment, I even in my
mind was like, Lincoln Wiley is going to play for
a kick here. He thinks he probably trust Burkits more
than even it's often at this point, but that that
certainly went out the window when he hit that absolute
duck hook. Yeah. The other one was and this is
I hate going backwards, but end of regulation, I felt
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like Oklahoma was just out of gas. And I know
that you know, if you get the ball first, which
I think Texas did, you end up capitalizing on them
being out of gas. But I felt like, don't you
do you go to win it? Like, what's your do
you have a philosophy that you've developed? Joe Clad our
guest lead college ball islence for Fox Sports Doug Gotlic
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show here on Fox Sports Radio. I feel like, in
that particular scenario, oh oh, use defense, which is their weakness,
was completely out of gas. You come from fourteen down,
You've got a chance to win the game on one play.
Would you have gone forward in the moment gone for
the two point play? Is what you're saying? Yeah, great question. Um.
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I defended his decision to do what he did, and
I think part of the reason was the fact that
his offense was also gassed, right, Like sure when when
Linger was walking to the sideline, you could like it
was all they had to come back and to tie
that game up. And and I think in a in
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a big respect, what happened two weeks ago also played
a part in that. Right, they came back in this
this epic fifteen point come back in the last three
minutes and thirteen seconds at Tech got to overtime and
then won the game. So I think that plays into
it a little bit. Um. And then and let's be honest,
and this is exactly what I said. Oh, use offense
had done nothing. They had gone into complete neutral, right
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like they had taken that out of gear. They had
been They had done nothing. And I think it's really
tough to start back up as an offensive unit and say, Okay,
now we're gonna pick it back up. The biggest mistake
that I thought Texas made, even though they went in
and scored on their first overtime is I felt like
they went back to a lot of base offense in
overtime versus using what worked in the last five minutes
of the game to bring you back from fourteen down.
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And and Doug, I see this all the time. So
you asked me, like, well, what's my philosophy. I think
you've got to make the decision in the moment. I
defend Tom Herman's decision to just kick the extra point.
I think what was more frustrating from a Texas fan's
perspective was the fact that they got into overtime and
then went right back to the offense that was stagnant
and put them in the fourteen point hole to begin with.
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See you mean, yeah, I'm watching the game and it
was one of those Thank you, Joel Klatt, thank you. Right,
It's like coaches do this right, Like we just spread
it out and let's go and all of a sudden,
now we get into Now we're get into where it's
oh we we at twenty five yards and fourth down,
let's go back to our base offense. Like, wait, that
didn't that got you? The that got you the deficit,
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that got you the deficit? Um? Okay, So, like is
ellenor Ellenor's that good? Like I feel Look, I get
that he grew up on to play in Texas. All
the videos, the story about him and his dad, I mean,
like all of it tear jerkers, and he's a great
seems like a great dude, a great leader. But is
he actually that good? Because it does feel like his
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lack of accuracy at times is is an issue considering
how much freedom they give him back there to make
plays down the field. Is accuracy was a huge issue
last week and ultimately his accuracy heard him because Tarik
Black is opened by the way on that over route
that he overthrows and then and then I think it
was Tray Brown picked it off behind him. Yeah, what's
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t Brown? So so Doug? Yeah, I mean that's that's
a problem in particular when you're moving and looking forward. Now,
as you can imagine, as as a few people can um,
social media was after Gus and I after us because
of how much love we were quote unquote keeping on
Sam Ellinger. But as you know, when you're sitting there
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doing in particular a college game, you really have to
find the things that you can be positive about, in
particular when a team like Texas is coming back, so
they start making this amazing comeback and and you know, oh,
you made some poor decisions. I thought the third down
play was a poor decision to throw the ball. They
leave them too much time, and so yeah, we're talking
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about Ellinger is doing this and doing this, you know
why because the rest of the team for Texas was
playing terrible, Right, Like, what what am I supposed to
sit there and say like, well, hey, this offensive line,
they've been terrible all day long, and I can just
bash on the rest of the Ellinger for the most
part was I wanted to say do that doing that
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single handedly bringing them back, But there was a big
element of he was just willing them back in that
game late. So a lot of the love that you
heard on the broadcast was was based on that, the
fact that there wasn't a lot of things to to
compliment on the Texas side. You couldn't talk compliment their
their defense, you couldn't compliment their discipline, you couldn't compliment
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their running game. The wide receivers were not gaining separation
and making great plays. So it's left you with here's
this kid, number eleven, who's who's had died in the
woold Texas kid, a veteran, and and he's running all
over the field trying to bring him back. And he
did and and they just fell short. But your assessment
is accurate. His inaccuracy, in particular down the field is
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ultimately what costs him and what will hinder him moving
forward as he tries to go to the NFL in
the future. Joe Clad our guests in the Doug Gotlie
Show on Fox Sports Radio. UM, I didn't buy the
Miami is Back thing because they added dear King. Just
I'm one of those dorks that sits around and watch
his college football every Saturday, watched as many games as possible,
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And I remember Derrick King getting beaten out at Houston
because he's he's like he's like, you know, he's a
wide receiver who can really throw. He's a great athlete,
but he's not He plays both quarterback and he's an
athletic position. I just felt like, you're not gonna be
able to do that against Clemson. He's not Lamar Jackson,
even if they're trying to make him in Lamar Jackson.
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That said Clemson one seventeen, but that score is not
really indicative of how bad an Ash Hopp and that
thing was right, Miami got a touchdown right before the
halftime because Clemson decided to kick up uh sixty one
yard field. God got blocked run back for a touchdown.
Like Clemson has all these issues in blocking. I think
they had like three kicks blocked, but I mean they
the defense was really really impressive. Travis at n might
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be the best running back in the country. He and
Chuba Hubbard when Chuba goes hard, and they had Trevor Lawrence,
Like I feel like Clemson, it's hard because it's Miami
and I don't know how good they really are. But man,
Clemson was really impressed with Saturday Night. Were you traveling
if you got a chance to see it at all?
I did, Actually, I actually walk the film last night. UM,
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and I think what is is very apparent when I
watched that is that Miami was completely overmatched at the
line of scrimmage on both sides. And while their defense
played fairly well, E t N is just too good
and and to a larger respect, Lawrence is just too good.
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To give you some perspective, duck, Like, I'm I'm sitting
there and I'm watching that film and it and it
kind of just like hits me right between the eyes
that I had been watching, you know, NFL football all
day yesterday and then here I am. I'm watching on
my iPad and I'm watching Clemson Miami and it's the
coach's copy, and I'm watching Clemson throws seven screen passes
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to eat N. During the course seven to eat and
seven screen passes, they threw him a goal ball down
to the sideline, They ran power with him, they tossed
him to the ball, they handed him the ball off
on zone. They wore him down, and he gave bulk
of his yards rushing the football late in that game.
And I'm watching to play and I'm watching his explosiveness
and I'm thinking to myself, he's one of the top
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probably twenty running backs on the face of the planet currently.
He is an NFL starter currently. He just happens to
be in a Clemson uniform. And you can say the
same thing about his quarterback, Trevor Lawrence is a top
quarterback on the face of the planet currently, and he
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happens to be we aren't a Clemson uniform. So Miami
is way better than they've been, right like, but the
gap between those two programs was so wide that they
were just never gonna make that gap up. And then
there's the extra element that it feels like Clemson at
times is Gerard Butler and his his soldiers in three hundred,
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where they're just relishing the opportunity to be tested because
they're never tested. They win games by thirty points, you know,
a weekly in the A c C. And now it's like,
finally we're gonna get you know, the big game on
Saturday night. We've got game Day here, you know all
these things. Now we're finally tested. It's like they sit
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back and they're like, oh, we relish this opportunity. And
then they came out and played so well. The one
thing that I think is not necessarily a surprise but
was a wait and see for Clemson to begin the
year was how was their young defensive front seven after
all those guys graduated over the last couple of years,
How is the young defensive front seven going to handle
college football? And could they be as dominant against good teams?
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And I think that was answered with a resounding yes.
That young front seven is really good and Clemson now,
in particular after Alabama laid such an egg defensively against
Old Miss, I think it's pretty clear is the number
one and best team in the country. Uh, George has
taken on Alabama. Alabama looked really impressive. Georgia in the
second half was just outstanding against Tennessee. Well, it was
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a close game became a complete and total blowout. And um,
I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the Dogs taken
on the Tide this weekend. I am so interested to
see last week. I feel like this narrative started to
form about kind of the death of defense throughout college football.
Wouldn't you agree Jordan Bama is sitting there and and
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they're in a shootout with Old Miss when l s
u is giving up the points that they did, you
know around you know the Florida A and M game
was a shootout. All this so this conference that has
leaned on defense for so long and toughness and so
on and so forth, was dealing with these Big twelve
style games. And now they've criticized the Big Twelve at
nauseum over the last few years for not playing defense.
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And here they are in the throes of the spread
offense revolution now actually coming to their blue blood programs,
and they see how beneficial that is on that side
of the football. Now, I say all that to bring
you back to this, Georgia is going to try to
beat Alabama with defense. I do not think that that's
possible in the modern college football. I believe that in
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order to beat Alabama, you're gonna have to at some
point score forty or forty five points. And the reason
is is because that's what their offense is going to do.
You know, Mac Jones is playing at a really high level.
I broke down that film last night as well. Here's
the difference now with Clemson and Alabama is that Alabama's
offense can be explosive down the field. They can run
the r p O s, their wide receivers are incredibly talented,
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but then they can also line up in big sets handball,
the nagy Eira's on the gap schemes like power and
and pin and poll schemes and decimate you in the
run game. And I think it's gonna be really difficult
for Georgia with the quarterback that they have and Stetson
Benett to just roll in there and win with defense.
They're gonna have to score forty points that they can
they do that. I don't think that they can, so
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I like Bama in that game. If they do, you
take your hat off the Stetson Bennett. That's exactly right.
By the way, what do you think, what do you
think Nick Saban is gonna do? Make sticks, make stets
In Bennett beat them. That's right. If you walk off.
If if you're Alabama and you walk off that old
a loser and Stetson Beenett through for under two hundred
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and fifty yards, shame on you. Shame on you play
cover zero. But you cannot allow Georgia to run the
football effectively at all. And you can do that via numbers,
play man coverage on the outside. You've got the athletes
to do that. And I know Georgia has talented at
wide receiver, and if Bennett gets a couple of plays
here and there, that's fine, but if they're gonna win.
Speaking of Georgia, Nick Saban had better make that kid
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throw for three hundred, three hundred fifty yards plus or
el shame on Alabama, and that's another big reason why
I like Bama in that game. Awesome stuff, Joe, welcome back.
Where are you this weekend? Um? Good, good question. You've
got Kansas in West Virginia. But yeah, yeah, well, wait
for the big ten to start. In other words, we're
waiting for the big, big, big big ten to start.
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last night and their fallback on analytics instead of analytics.
Analytics will tell you go for it and you seal
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of it's and Russell Wilson not only asked to score
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they did outplay the Seahawks. They had forty minutes time
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copletely outplayed an analytics. And I'm I like to aggressive
play calling, and I don't question play calls. I don't
with coaching, I never do that. But you have a
wet field, a wet ball, or running back can slip,
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to go for it. If I'm facing Mahomes or Russell Wilson.
I am not going for it there. I am getting
the points. I'm forcing Russell Wilson or Mahomes to go down,
score a touchdown, then get a two point conversion. Because
this is Russell Wilson. What You've never seen this before.
He's the best closer in the sport. I get analytics
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except when I'm facing Russell Wilson or Patrick Mahomes. Um.
I understand Collins pushed back against analytics ruling the day,
but that's not really what happened in Seattle last night.
Mike Zimmer said. He said, in the headset, we we
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came here to win. We didn't come here to tie,
like it was actually a machismo play. Let's enforce our will,
which I understand. It's like, look, you can run. It's
the old idea of why worry about getting a stop
or all these other plays when if you get if
you're successful on one play, the game is in fact over.
I get that, but every situation is different unto itself.
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And in this particular situation, it was a very very
makeable field goal for a professional kicker, and the weather
was not terrible. You kicked the field goal. You go
up eight and um and look, if you missed the
field goal, you can still get a stop. You're in
essentially the same position if you had gotten stopped on
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fourth down. So I would have kicked it in the moment.
I would have kicked it. Now, obviously I would have
probably kicked it even if they got the first down.
I just understand it that what would have happened. Think
of all the things. This is the same reason I
found all up three points with less than seven seconds
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to go, Because in order for a team to beat
you in that moment, they have to first make the
first free throw. Oftentimes they miss it. Second they need
to miss the second free throw, then they need to
tip it out. Then they need to get the basketball.
Then they need to make a three point shot. That's
to beat you. So for me, yes, you get a
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first down, all those other things don't matter. But if
you kick a field goal and you make it, I mean,
think about it. They have to march down the field,
they have to score a touchdown, then they have to
score two point conversion, and then only then are they tied.
They don't even win the game. I think it was
machismo and an effort to enforce your will and maybe
win over the locker room with Mike E. Zimmer and
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I think that backfired. And what was besides that a
magnificent game plan that they just struggled in the third
quarter to contain the vike Um. What we gotta talk
about how much people watched the NBA Finals. I think
the numbers are gonna be that game was bad last night.
(37:05):
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bad watch. Rick Pucker is gonna join us to the
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Tug got Leave Show Fox Sports Radio coming for your heads.
The massive silliness from hot takers out there who have
said downright stupid, uneducated things that are wrong in the
world of sports. I mean, it's it's comical to me
that I got trolls that are like last year you said,
(00:50):
you know, last year, gotly this is the voice of
the internet dork, right, George Kettle ant block. He's a
bad Blocker's not what I said. I said, He's not
really a blocker. He's a great pass catcher who has
bought in to that, to their scheme where you have
(01:12):
to get off people and get and get down the
field and block. For what they do. For a guy
who's a great pass catcher, he's quite good as a blocker.
And it was mostly comparison to Gronk. Who oh yeah.
By the way, ask anybody who watches Tampa's film that
while Gronk can't get out of a break anymore, you
know what, he can still do block The best blocking
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tight ends in the NFL you have never heard of.
Do you know why? Because they don't catch passes. That's
what Rob Gronkowski was different. That was what the discussion
was about. But that was actually off of a It
was like a side topic we talked about with Cowherd,
off the discussion I have with a couple of NFL
front office people actually talking to people inside the profession,
(01:54):
which is the opposite of you know, j Williams saying
that Lebron should have shot over three or four guys
on Friday Night said have passed the ball to a
wide open Danny Green. Like that's just the hot takers,
silly talk, trying to get attention stuff. What's comical about
that play was right before the play happened, my son said,
(02:17):
where's Caruso? And I was like, now you take Caruso out,
and you put Contavious Callwell Pope in, and you put
Danny Green in. He's like, why, I said, because you're
not the ball is not gonna go to offense. They're
not gonna go to defense. Those guys Cruises a defensive player.
Rondo is a defensive player or a full court player
in the half court, it's gonna be Lebron and he
(02:40):
wants a ball screen. And we know exactly you know
who he wanted to go after. He was he was
going after a mismatch. Do you know where he was going?
What mismatch he was going after? Pretty obvious Duncan Robinson,
who we got, so they double teamed the ball. He
passes to the open shoot her misses a shot like
(03:01):
that's basketball one oh one. Go at the weakest defender
with your best player. That's what they did. If whoever
over helps, that's the open guy. If you're a nonshooter,
you cut. If you're a shooter, you spot up, get
your spot. Danny Green's more of a corner three point shooter.
But he was wide open. He was a good shot.
It wasn't a great pass, and Lebron owned it as much.
And it wasn't a great shot. He earned nearly air bold.
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I've heard it all from guys like Stephen A when
when John Gruden got the job. Oh the overpaid ms
D million dollars. Oh, he doesn't know what he's doing.
It's a disaster. How can you trade away Khalil Mack?
I'm reading then trading Mark Cooper? What are they doing? Yeah,
I'm I'm reading a website right now, sports casting dot Com.
(03:45):
I've neverive I just happened to google John Gruden mistake
And somebody named Steven Sheehan wrote an article in April
two thousand twenty about the ten year, hundred million dollar
contract which is going to be a mistake. And then
I watched the Raiders yesterday and look, anyone who is
realistic about the NFL draft in two thousan nineteen, you're like, well,
(04:10):
if you want to pick out individual picks that the
Raiders have missed on, you'd be right. Hey, it is
absolutely fair for you to say, hey, I look at
this pick. I look at that pick. I don't love it.
Do you know who goes seven for seven? If they
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have seven NFL draft picks, that would be zero? Like
the game is the same in college football and recruiting
as it is in the NFL. With drafting. It's a
volume deal, right because some guys and look, you have
to do a ton of about background research. Some guys
implode because of personal issues. Some guys implode because they
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don't actually have the speed that you need, and it's
hard to evaluate them, hard to evaluate them at their level,
or they get injured, or you ta change schemes and
they only fit a certain scheme. But the the the
idea is generally the more opportunities you get with young
draft picks and you educate yourself as well as you
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can on prospects, your hit rates somewhere in the sixtent
variety free agency, it's a little bit harder. It's like
a thirty three hit rate. How do I know these numbers.
NFL people have told me you need to hit more
on your first round picks. It's a higher hit right there.
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But it's generally two thirds of the draft picks live
up to whatever billing you have when you draft them.
Perfect example, Okay, uh uh, what's Farrell's first name? Cleveland Farrell.
It is a good player, all right, but but clearly
with Josh Allen drafted behind him than cluding Farrell went
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I think fourth overall. Josh Allen I think was the
next pick with the Jacksonville Jaguars Allan's a better player,
but he's Clil is a good player and supposedly a
great chemistry guy, and their locker room has really good chemistry. Now,
Max Crosby was a six round pick, and I haven't
gone through and look at Jacksonville's fifth or six round picks,
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but I guarantee he's better than whoever Jacksonville got in
the fifth and sixth round. The point is that you're
gonna hit some, you're gonna miss some. But the plan
is to get as many picks and to remake yourself
and to build around a solid, steady quarterback and figure
out if you give him enough weapons, if he can
do just enough to beat the other team. They gave
him a running back last year, and they got Rugs
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this year. With Rugs healthy, their offense looks completely different.
And the defense isn't great, but it's getting better. It's
getting more talented. And when they had Khalil Mac they
weren't a good defense. They had a great player. Okay,
(07:02):
they had one great player. Look he gotta keep for
trading Mary Cooper. I don't know if any other wide
receivers are as good as a Mary Cooper, but I
can tell you this that if you have to pay
a hard Mark Cooper a hund million dollars as they
didn't want to, that would change everything, and that pick
ends up becoming Rugs becomes a very very talented, far
lesser paid, healthy young wide receiver. And I wasn't healthy always.
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But yes, when you talk to NFL people and he
got the job, most everybody's like, yeah, eventually, that will work.
He's a really good football guy who happened to be
a kind of quirky guy on TV. I think people
lost track of John Gruden. They're like, oh, these are
(07:46):
just quirks and this is just like no, he was
always like that. He wasn't playing a character. He's just
football guy, like the John Gruden quarterback camp, like when
he bring guys in. That was because he actually would
watch film, talk to guys, basically do mock drafts like
he had. That's all he does, and he was waiting
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for the opportunity. The only reason that they had to
pay him a hundred million dollars was the crazy money
he was making. It was gonna make from ESPN if
he was right now. The Raiders actually got him in
a discount because you know what it would have happened
had he stayed at ESPN, Romo gets seventeen, he's gonna
get eighteen or somewhere in that they read. Instead, he
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got somewhere in the neighborhood of ten a year for
ten years, which at the time felt like a lot
of money. But in order to get a guy to change,
he's a lifetime appointment. That was like a Supreme Court appointment,
lifetime appointment on Monday night football. Because he was really,
really good and really well prepared and totally knew the
sport and was a super he was he was the
new age Madden. The only way to get him off
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of that perch is to over pay him for far
too long. And you know what, they probably end up
underpaying him because the plan is working. The Raiders are good,
they are young, they are getting better, they are competing
in every game they've played against a ridiculous schedule, and
right now they got their head above water. So all
of you who said it wouldn't work it was dumb
(09:20):
to see the league had passed him by. How can
you sit in a booth for ten years and now
can you trade away Khalil Mack and traded Mary Cooper
This guy right here told you like or dislike the Raiders,
the plan makes complete sense and eventually it'll make them
a really good team. Well, they have a great team.
I don't know. I don't know if did Derek car
is a great quarterback. I don't know if they can
take that next step to being an elite team. You
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gotta do it weekend, week out. But they had made one.
They made the playoffs once in like nineteen years, and
it was the weirdest year. They went for it on
fourth down a bunch of times. You know, they went
for two. They want a bunch of crazy, crazy games.
And if you remember back the rest of the teams
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in the division, we're all kind of dysfunctional. Right now,
the division is pretty darn good. Chargers, notwithstanding, with a
bunch of injuries. Denver obviously a bunch of injuries. They're
going to beat Kansas City in Kansas City, granted with
no fans, but they outscored Kansa City in Kansas City
and pick off Pat Mahomes a couple of times in
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key spots. If you don't think it's going to work,
the Raiders have passed you by the league hasn't passed
him by coming up next, the Browns kind of look
like a real football team. Um, here's what's weird. I
think I know what they're who their weakest link is,
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and trying to hide that is actually a little bit
more difficult then you would think. I'll explain that next.
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Whap Doug Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio. We went three
in two this past week on our NFL picks, which
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is not great, but you know what it's not. It's
not losing money. And three and two again, you just
keep piling up. Wins Keep was that that pat Riley
and he put that chip in every day, right, So
we went three into One of the picks that I
really liked was the Cleveland Browns. And the Cleveland Browns
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have become a damn good football team, by the way,
indian Indianapolis is really good, and I think their weak
link is the same link link as the Browns. Like
I can love Philip Rivers and tell you he hasn't
always been a great uh one score quarterback like he
does now he's bad. He just he has to guess
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early because he's always been immobile. He hurts. She can't
really run screen game with him because he can't move.
His arm isn't what you used to be. He's always
kind of had that funky throwing motion. Now he just
kind of guesses and throws some and just the ball
dies at times, especially outdoors that they're gonna play indoors,
I know, most of the season, but uh, I felt
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like he just died at time yesterday. But I look
at the Browns and I'm like, that's a good football team. Right.
Offensive line is moving people that are running the football.
You know, they had two running backs. Now they have one,
but they're still and they got quality wide receivers, a
good tight end. The offensive line is rebuilt, and I
thought rebuilt pretty smartly. And look, I didn't like I
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don't think I'm the only one who would say this
that you know. I thought the act last year against
the Pittsburgh Steelers of Myles Garrett it was ridiculous, and
the statements he made about being called in something that
he didn't say for weeks on end. Then all of
a sudden he comes up with it when he's trying
to get out of out of suspension. I didn't, but
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Myles Garrett's help football player. You know Myles Garrett and
Sheldon Ridgards did when they have Olivier Vernon, And you know,
Denzel Ward has been a good draft pick, been a
good draft pick. I like Anderson, Uh, let me see
Andrew Sendejo as well as her safety. Like that's a
good that's a good football team. Do you know who
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I think their weakest part of the football team is.
I feel like it's quarterback now. When Baker Mayfield came out,
Just so everybody is fair and understanding of where I stood.
I didn't care about what was seen as off the
field noise. That never anyone I talked to at the
University of Oklahoma was like, dude, as a leader, he's
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a real deal. Guys will kill for Baker. But and
this is the big point that you better have a
team that has really good talent because he does not
have carry you talent. He just doesn't. That's not who
he is. He's really His intangibles are off the chart.
His tangibles are so so at best. Baker Mayfield, despite
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having an outstanding running game, his completion percentage passer ratings.
They are leading the league in rushing, which means his
completion percentage should be off the charts because you're you're
dedicating at least two, if not three, linebackers if you're
in a four three two to the run. And it's
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not like they don't have nice weapons, right, I mean
you've got oh b J. And you got Jarvis Landry,
and you got Austin Hooper. Like that's three just those guys,
and they have others, three outstanding weapons. And Kareem Hunt,
when healthy, can catch past sid of the backfield, right,
So you kind of look around here and you're like,
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wait a second, what's their weak link? Baker Mayfield? Now
that that's okay. If you're dominating, you're running the football
and you're kind of high in it. But I don't
know how long. This is kind of what the Rams
did with Jared Goff a couple of years ago. You
have a dominant running game, like Kareem Hunt is outstanding.
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By the way, I feel really good for Cody Parkey
making that last that that late field goal that Donked in.
Did you guys see the Donkin field goal? If you
know anything about Cody Parkey, Like he actually had a
really really good year I think with the what the
Bears a couple of years ago. Yeah, it was with
the Bears, and then the Dolphins signed him as a
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free agent. He's from Florida and he just really struggled.
He struggled the last couple of years. But he's a
very very good kicker. But you got Ernest Johnson, who
had never heard of before yesterday running the football. He
had a twenty eight yard run. I love, by the way,
my my son. I told my son that Contavious was.
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Actually we didn't him Haze, but Contavious was. It was
a quick runner up the Ernest Johnson, uh kid out
of South Florida. Second year guy. He he has a monster, dude.
He had a big run yesterday. I like the Browns team.
I think what's interesting about it is despite the fact
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that he was the number one overall pick in a
Heisman Trophy winner, I feel like Baker Mayfield is kind
of quietly their weak link that they're trying to hide
that he's just okay, which is smart. So it's okay,
Like you can still win a lot of football games
with a quarterback who's just fine, who's just okay. You
just can't turn it over to him. And you know
there are times in the second half we let's put
him back in the shotgun and everybody knows he's gonna pass,
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and that's not where he's great. And this is the
difference in Freddie Kitchens last year, who was beholden to
Baker Mayfield as a quarterback and let's just drop back
forty five times a game and let him sling it
and throw it and get it to our weapons. Whereas
you bring you're bringing Kevin Stefanski, who look, man, I
was able to at the SEC chat at your game
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with with case Keenum, We're able to win a playoff
game on the road with Kirk Cousins, I've been here before.
We can hide some of your deficiencies. If we get
you to get the team to run the football that
that plan works. Does it winn your Super Bowl? Probably not,
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but it gets you to be in a viable reputable
They are four and one on this season, and they're
legitimately that good. I think they're a good, solid football team.
Now we'll find out how good is they play Pittsburgh
on the road. That play. Since then, the Raiders, the Texans,
the Eagles. These are all pretty high caliber teams coming up,
but I do think that Baker, talent wise, is probably
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their weakest link. Still a great leader, still can make plays,
still can bail you out on play action. But as
long as you don't leave it all up to Baker,
I think you'll be okay. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. I cannot tell you
how much fun I had Saturday watching the Red River shootout, right,
(18:03):
I mean, I liked watching Oklahoma lose last week, and
they nearly lost this week, but they felt like they
won the game three times, like had it won? Okay?
Then Texas scores at the end of regulation, and then
I think it was the third overtime, right, they stopped
Texas and then played for a field goal, and they
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have a good sophomore field goal kicker who just duck
hooks it right, And then of course in the fourth
overtime they do in fact win the game. Joe Clacket,
do you get overtime? Like? Is there? Like you hit
the fifth and you get you get double appearances for
calling a game? That loong. No, man, that's that's all
for free. I would I would do that for free too.
That's how fun that game was to call. I I mean,
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like you said, yes, it did feel like they wanted
three times. And then after Burkit the kicker for oh you,
after he hit that, I mean that was the worst
kick he sit in his entire career. I had Brian
Bosworth all over me on Twitter saying I gave the
kicker jinks, which you know what hindsight, we probably did
because we were talking about how good he was. But
I will tell you this, um, I thought that it
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was in the cards for Sam Ellinger to win and
for Texas to win that ballgame, and in lo and behold,
you know, the defense of all units for Oklahoma, the
defense comes up with the biggest play of the game
on that game ending interception. Yeah, and they got to
stop on the I think the third overtime as well,
like the defense did. I thought, like the only I
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didn't think Oklahoma should play for the field goal in
the third overtime just because college kickers, you know, like again,
that doesn't mean you have to play Lucy Goosey, but
really try and attack and get it to where it's
a a field goal you cannot miss, right, I would
absolutely agree with you. And the only thing that I
will say is that I think the the issues with
the ball control in the backfield led to him, Lincoln
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Riley playing that way. Remember Rattler had fumbled earlier and
you know, on one of the previous series right at
the end of the game and luckily they recovered it.
So the ball, I think he was nervous that, oh,
I could just run this out, but I've got running
really young running back. So they had seth McGowan out.
So you've got pleasure who's played the whole game. I
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hear you. And in the moment, I even in my
mind was like, Lincoln Wiley is going to play for
a kick here. He thinks he probably trust Burkits more
than even it's often at this point, but that that
certainly went out the window when he hit that absolute
duck hook. Yeah. The other one was and this is
I hate going backwards, but end of regulation, I felt
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like Oklahoma was just out of gas. And I know
that you know, if you get the ball first, which
I think Texas did, you end up capitalizing on them
being out of gas. But I felt like, don't you
do you go to win it? Like, what's your do
you have a philosophy that you've developed? Joe Clad our
guest lead college ball islence for Fox Sports Doug Gotlic
(20:55):
show here on Fox Sports Radio. I feel like, in
that particular scenario, oh oh, use defense, which is their weakness,
was completely out of gas. You come from fourteen down,
You've got a chance to win the game on one play.
Would you have gone forward in the moment gone for
the two point play? Is what you're saying? Yeah, great question. Um.
(21:17):
I defended his decision to do what he did, and
I think part of the reason was the fact that
his offense was also gassed, right, Like sure when when
Linger was walking to the sideline, you could like it
was all they had to come back and to tie
that game up. And and I think in a in
(21:38):
a big respect, what happened two weeks ago also played
a part in that. Right, they came back in this
this epic fifteen point come back in the last three
minutes and thirteen seconds at Tech got to overtime and
then won the game. So I think that plays into
it a little bit. Um. And then and let's be honest,
and this is exactly what I said. Oh, use offense
had done nothing. They had gone into complete neutral, right
(22:00):
like they had taken that out of gear. They had
been They had done nothing. And I think it's really
tough to start back up as an offensive unit and say, Okay,
now we're gonna pick it back up. The biggest mistake
that I thought Texas made, even though they went in
and scored on their first overtime is I felt like
they went back to a lot of base offense in
overtime versus using what worked in the last five minutes
of the game to bring you back from fourteen down.
(22:23):
And and Doug, I see this all the time. So
you asked me, like, well, what's my philosophy. I think
you've got to make the decision in the moment. I
defend Tom Herman's decision to just kick the extra point.
I think what was more frustrating from a Texas fan's
perspective was the fact that they got into overtime and
then went right back to the offense that was stagnant
and put them in the fourteen point hole to begin with.
(22:44):
See you mean, yeah, I'm watching the game and it
was one of those Thank you, Joel Klatt, thank you. Right,
It's like coaches do this right, Like we just spread
it out and let's go and all of a sudden,
now we get into Now we're get into where it's
oh we we at twenty five yards and fourth down,
let's go back to our base offense. Like, wait, that
didn't that got you? The that got you the deficit,
(23:06):
that got you the deficit? Um? Okay, So, like is
ellenor Ellenor's that good? Like I feel Look, I get
that he grew up on to play in Texas. All
the videos, the story about him and his dad, I mean,
like all of it tear jerkers, and he's a great
seems like a great dude, a great leader. But is
he actually that good? Because it does feel like his
(23:28):
lack of accuracy at times is is an issue considering
how much freedom they give him back there to make
plays down the field. Is accuracy was a huge issue
last week and ultimately his accuracy heard him because Tarik
Black is opened by the way on that over route
that he overthrows and then and then I think it
was Tray Brown picked it off behind him. Yeah, what's
(23:49):
t Brown? So so Doug? Yeah, I mean that's that's
a problem in particular when you're moving and looking forward. Now,
as you can imagine, as as a few people can um,
social media was after Gus and I after us because
of how much love we were quote unquote keeping on
Sam Ellinger. But as you know, when you're sitting there
(24:12):
doing in particular a college game, you really have to
find the things that you can be positive about, in
particular when a team like Texas is coming back, so
they start making this amazing comeback and and you know, oh,
you made some poor decisions. I thought the third down
play was a poor decision to throw the ball. They
leave them too much time, and so yeah, we're talking
(24:32):
about Ellinger is doing this and doing this, you know
why because the rest of the team for Texas was
playing terrible, Right, Like, what what am I supposed to
sit there and say like, well, hey, this offensive line,
they've been terrible all day long, and I can just
bash on the rest of the Ellinger for the most
part was I wanted to say do that doing that
(24:53):
single handedly bringing them back, But there was a big
element of he was just willing them back in that
game late. So a lot of the love that you
heard on the broadcast was was based on that, the
fact that there wasn't a lot of things to to
compliment on the Texas side. You couldn't talk compliment their
their defense, you couldn't compliment their discipline, you couldn't compliment
(25:14):
their running game. The wide receivers were not gaining separation
and making great plays. So it's left you with here's
this kid, number eleven, who's who's had died in the
woold Texas kid, a veteran, and and he's running all
over the field trying to bring him back. And he
did and and they just fell short. But your assessment
is accurate. His inaccuracy, in particular down the field is
(25:35):
ultimately what costs him and what will hinder him moving
forward as he tries to go to the NFL in
the future. Joe Clad our guests in the Doug Gotlie
Show on Fox Sports Radio. UM, I didn't buy the
Miami is Back thing because they added dear King. Just
I'm one of those dorks that sits around and watch
his college football every Saturday, watched as many games as possible,
(25:57):
And I remember Derrick King getting beaten out at Houston
because he's he's like he's like, you know, he's a
wide receiver who can really throw. He's a great athlete,
but he's not He plays both quarterback and he's an
athletic position. I just felt like, you're not gonna be
able to do that against Clemson. He's not Lamar Jackson,
even if they're trying to make him in Lamar Jackson.
(26:17):
That said Clemson one seventeen, but that score is not
really indicative of how bad an Ash Hopp and that
thing was right, Miami got a touchdown right before the
halftime because Clemson decided to kick up uh sixty one
yard field. God got blocked run back for a touchdown.
Like Clemson has all these issues in blocking. I think
they had like three kicks blocked, but I mean they
the defense was really really impressive. Travis at n might
(26:41):
be the best running back in the country. He and
Chuba Hubbard when Chuba goes hard, and they had Trevor Lawrence,
Like I feel like Clemson, it's hard because it's Miami
and I don't know how good they really are. But man,
Clemson was really impressed with Saturday Night. Were you traveling
if you got a chance to see it at all?
I did, Actually, I actually walk the film last night. UM,
(27:01):
and I think what is is very apparent when I
watched that is that Miami was completely overmatched at the
line of scrimmage on both sides. And while their defense
played fairly well, E t N is just too good
and and to a larger respect, Lawrence is just too good.
(27:23):
To give you some perspective, duck, Like, I'm I'm sitting
there and I'm watching that film and it and it
kind of just like hits me right between the eyes
that I had been watching, you know, NFL football all
day yesterday and then here I am. I'm watching on
my iPad and I'm watching Clemson Miami and it's the
coach's copy, and I'm watching Clemson throws seven screen passes
(27:44):
to eat N. During the course seven to eat and
seven screen passes, they threw him a goal ball down
to the sideline, They ran power with him, they tossed
him to the ball, they handed him the ball off
on zone. They wore him down, and he gave bulk
of his yards rushing the football late in that game.
And I'm watching to play and I'm watching his explosiveness
and I'm thinking to myself, he's one of the top
(28:04):
probably twenty running backs on the face of the planet currently.
He is an NFL starter currently. He just happens to
be in a Clemson uniform. And you can say the
same thing about his quarterback, Trevor Lawrence is a top
quarterback on the face of the planet currently, and he
(28:25):
happens to be we aren't a Clemson uniform. So Miami
is way better than they've been, right like, but the
gap between those two programs was so wide that they
were just never gonna make that gap up. And then
there's the extra element that it feels like Clemson at
times is Gerard Butler and his his soldiers in three hundred,
(28:48):
where they're just relishing the opportunity to be tested because
they're never tested. They win games by thirty points, you know,
a weekly in the A c C. And now it's like,
finally we're gonna get you know, the big game on
Saturday night. We've got game Day here, you know all
these things. Now we're finally tested. It's like they sit
(29:08):
back and they're like, oh, we relish this opportunity. And
then they came out and played so well. The one
thing that I think is not necessarily a surprise but
was a wait and see for Clemson to begin the
year was how was their young defensive front seven after
all those guys graduated over the last couple of years,
How is the young defensive front seven going to handle
college football? And could they be as dominant against good teams?
(29:31):
And I think that was answered with a resounding yes.
That young front seven is really good and Clemson now,
in particular after Alabama laid such an egg defensively against
Old Miss, I think it's pretty clear is the number
one and best team in the country. Uh, George has
taken on Alabama. Alabama looked really impressive. Georgia in the
second half was just outstanding against Tennessee. Well, it was
(29:54):
a close game became a complete and total blowout. And um,
I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the Dogs taken
on the Tide this weekend. I am so interested to
see last week. I feel like this narrative started to
form about kind of the death of defense throughout college football.
Wouldn't you agree Jordan Bama is sitting there and and
(30:15):
they're in a shootout with Old Miss when l s
u is giving up the points that they did, you
know around you know the Florida A and M game
was a shootout. All this so this conference that has
leaned on defense for so long and toughness and so
on and so forth, was dealing with these Big twelve
style games. And now they've criticized the Big Twelve at
nauseum over the last few years for not playing defense.
(30:37):
And here they are in the throes of the spread
offense revolution now actually coming to their blue blood programs,
and they see how beneficial that is on that side
of the football. Now, I say all that to bring
you back to this, Georgia is going to try to
beat Alabama with defense. I do not think that that's
possible in the modern college football. I believe that in
(30:58):
order to beat Alabama, you're gonna have to at some
point score forty or forty five points. And the reason
is is because that's what their offense is going to do.
You know, Mac Jones is playing at a really high level.
I broke down that film last night as well. Here's
the difference now with Clemson and Alabama is that Alabama's
offense can be explosive down the field. They can run
the r p O s, their wide receivers are incredibly talented,
(31:20):
but then they can also line up in big sets handball,
the nagy Eira's on the gap schemes like power and
and pin and poll schemes and decimate you in the
run game. And I think it's gonna be really difficult
for Georgia with the quarterback that they have and Stetson
Benett to just roll in there and win with defense.
They're gonna have to score forty points that they can
they do that. I don't think that they can, so
(31:40):
I like Bama in that game. If they do, you
take your hat off the Stetson Bennett. That's exactly right.
By the way, what do you think, what do you
think Nick Saban is gonna do? Make sticks, make stets
In Bennett beat them. That's right. If you walk off.
If if you're Alabama and you walk off that old
a loser and Stetson Beenett through for under two hundred
(32:03):
and fifty yards, shame on you. Shame on you play
cover zero. But you cannot allow Georgia to run the
football effectively at all. And you can do that via numbers,
play man coverage on the outside. You've got the athletes
to do that. And I know Georgia has talented at
wide receiver, and if Bennett gets a couple of plays
here and there, that's fine, but if they're gonna win.
Speaking of Georgia, Nick Saban had better make that kid
(32:26):
throw for three hundred, three hundred fifty yards plus or
el shame on Alabama, and that's another big reason why
I like Bama in that game. Awesome stuff, Joe, welcome back.
Where are you this weekend? Um? Good, good question. You've
got Kansas in West Virginia. But yeah, yeah, well, wait
for the big ten to start. In other words, we're
waiting for the big, big, big big ten to start.
(32:49):
There you go, Good stuff, Joel, thanks you for joining us.
You gotta have a great day. That's a man, Joel
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(33:11):
Fox said and now, so it's the first time listening,
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Trader Fox Sports one that we think you might think
is interesting. Here's Colin Cowherd talking about the Vikings decision
(33:32):
last night and their fallback on analytics instead of analytics.
Analytics will tell you go for it and you seal
the game. But if you kick a field goal instead
of it's and Russell Wilson not only asked to score
a touchdown, but at two point conversion and at worst
that goes overtime. Where I've totally outplayed the Seahawks because
(33:53):
they did outplay the Seahawks. They had forty minutes time
of possession, four d and fifty yards. They outplayed Seattle
copletely outplayed an analytics. And I'm I like to aggressive
play calling, and I don't question play calls. I don't
with coaching, I never do that. But you have a
wet field, a wet ball, or running back can slip,
he can lose the ball, and then you give it
to Russell Wilson. And if I'm facing analytics tell you
(34:16):
to go for it. If I'm facing Mahomes or Russell Wilson.
I am not going for it there. I am getting
the points. I'm forcing Russell Wilson or Mahomes to go down,
score a touchdown, then get a two point conversion. Because
this is Russell Wilson. What You've never seen this before.
He's the best closer in the sport. I get analytics
(34:36):
except when I'm facing Russell Wilson or Patrick Mahomes. Um.
I understand Collins pushed back against analytics ruling the day,
but that's not really what happened in Seattle last night.
Mike Zimmer said. He said, in the headset, we we
(34:57):
came here to win. We didn't come here to tie,
like it was actually a machismo play. Let's enforce our will,
which I understand. It's like, look, you can run. It's
the old idea of why worry about getting a stop
or all these other plays when if you get if
you're successful on one play, the game is in fact over.
I get that, but every situation is different unto itself.
(35:22):
And in this particular situation, it was a very very
makeable field goal for a professional kicker, and the weather
was not terrible. You kicked the field goal. You go
up eight and um and look, if you missed the
field goal, you can still get a stop. You're in
essentially the same position if you had gotten stopped on
(35:42):
fourth down. So I would have kicked it in the moment.
I would have kicked it. Now, obviously I would have
probably kicked it even if they got the first down.
I just understand it that what would have happened. Think
of all the things. This is the same reason I
found all up three points with less than seven seconds
(36:02):
to go, Because in order for a team to beat
you in that moment, they have to first make the
first free throw. Oftentimes they miss it. Second they need
to miss the second free throw, then they need to
tip it out. Then they need to get the basketball.
Then they need to make a three point shot. That's
to beat you. So for me, yes, you get a
(36:24):
first down, all those other things don't matter. But if
you kick a field goal and you make it, I mean,
think about it. They have to march down the field,
they have to score a touchdown, then they have to
score two point conversion, and then only then are they tied.
They don't even win the game. I think it was
machismo and an effort to enforce your will and maybe
win over the locker room with Mike E. Zimmer and
(36:45):
I think that backfired. And what was besides that a
magnificent game plan that they just struggled in the third
quarter to contain the vike Um. What we gotta talk
about how much people watched the NBA Finals. I think
the numbers are gonna be that game was bad last night.
(37:05):
The Lakers were amazing, but that made for a bad,
bad watch. Rick Pucker is gonna join us to the
top of the hour. We got baseball being played right now.
The Rays are up three nothing at the top of
the third in San Diego against the Astros, Dodgers Braves.
Later tonight, Rick Pucker joins the show. Up coming next,
what do we think now about Lebron James and is
(37:27):
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