October 13, 2020 • 35 mins
Doug discusses the Saints win over the Chargers and why he has doubts about their chances to win the Super Bowl with Drew Brees as their quarterback. Former quarterback and NFL analyst Chris Simms joins the show to tell Doug if Justin Herbert has proven he is a franchise quarterback.
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We got some stuff to talk about as well. Interesting
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Schwartz is gonna join us, rich orn Burger is gonna
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join us. Chris Simms is gonna join us. Great fade,
Great fade for of his hair Chris Simms will join us.
Let me start with this. Last night, the New Orleans
Saints in overtime won by a field goal over the
l A Chargers. The only reason the game was in
overtime was, well, it's the Chargers, all right, Uh. The
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money Badger as their kicker, Michael Badgeley's known as jinked one,
missed one in and a p A T which allowed
the Saints to tie in regulation, and then had a
chance to win the game with a fifty yard field
goal where he hit the upright. It wasn't a complete shank,
but it didn't draw it either, and the Chargers went
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to overtime. They gave up a field goal to the Saints.
They drove down and end up with nothing. They were about,
I don't know, two ft short of a first down.
Mike Williams got tackled, but part of it was Herbert's
throw was slightly behind and slightly high, and so Mike
Williams couldn't just catch it and keep running where he
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would have gotten the first down. But the bigger story
is the New Orleans Saints, who if you looked at
their record, you'd go like, all right, what's the big deal?
Here the Saints are in a competitive division at the
top of it at two and oh, and they have
a win over the Tampa Buccaneers. It's a great win.
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Up next to the is the surprising Carolina Panthers. Then
they go to Chicago take on the Bears. Then they
go to Tampa take on the Bucks, the Niners, the Falcons,
the Broncos, the Falcons, the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Vikings,
the Panthers. It's not a not a crazy schedule and
one where you're gonna see them win between ten and
twelve games. Fairly handling. But this is supposed to be
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a Super Bowl team. And what happened to the Saints. Um,
I actually think it's understandable. It's reasonable, like, well, there's
a little bit of a smoke screen there. Two years
ago when they lost the Rams, everybody made a huge deal,
huge deal about the no call of past interference on
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third down. On fourth down, they kicked a field goal
the Rams. Both teams got the ball in regulation in overtime,
and then the Rams end up winning in overtime. People
people want to make it sound like passe interference was
the last play of the game. It wasn't it also
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wasn't the most important play even of that series. On
first down, Drew Brees audibilized out of a sure sheer
sure run and threw the ball at the feet and
behind his wide receiver. That stopped the clock, That allowed
and turned the Rams to ultimately get the football back
instead of them running it out, running out and kicking
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a field goal as time expired, or scoring a touchdown
as time expired, they did not. Secondly, the Saints got
the ball back in overtime, could do nothing with it.
Oh yeah, and I actually think uh Breeze month throw
an interception in overtime turned it over. Then this year
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they got behind big to the Minnesota Vikings at home,
couldn't move the football right and and yes, Kirk Cousins
made an incredible throw to end up winning the game.
And yes there was another controversy, but there was another
stalled drive, series of stall drives, but a big stall
drive by Drew Brees. They've been hiding the fact that
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Drew Brees can't lead them to a super Bowl for
the last two years because of blown calls. Heck, even
if you go back three years ago when they had
a good team, they were a wild card team. They
went on the road to take on the Minnesota Vikings,
and we're gonna win and pull off an upset. It
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likely weren't gonna be Philadelphia on the road the next weekend.
But that play, the Minnesota miracle again overshadows that Breezes
arm at the end of the last couple of seasons
hasn't been good enough. Now Here we are in the
beginning of the regular season, and though he threw a
couple of good balls, one it's indoors. Two, there's just
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a limit there to what he's able to do. Like,
why do they keep bringing Tastom Hill in the game.
Why do you think Do you think Sean Payton's just
doing it because he wants confirmation over his desire to
see Tastom he'll be the heir apparent, or you think
it puts his team and what he thinks is the
best situation to win and to score. Because there's limitations
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on what Drew Brees can do. He's not mobile and
he can't row guys open anymore because he doesn't have
the pop in his arm. Here's the Saints offense. Give
it to Kimera or hope you get something crossing underneath
where Drew Brees can throw it and lead a guy
and he can make a play. Granted, they don't have
Michael Thomas. I would grant you. You take the best
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player off any team, you're gonna look different offensively. But
Michael Thomas is not a deep threat. And this and
they don't have explosive plays, even though they have explosive players,
and that comes down to the quarterback. The difference here
is and like, look, I used this the St. Louis
Cardinals is the best analogy they had Albert Pools. Albert
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Pools won a nine year contract. They offered him a
six year contract at the end of his final season
with the Cardinals. They offered him just enough so that
they could say we offered him a nine year deal,
but not enough to really be a player, and they
bid him ado. Then he went to the Angels, where
he's only had one year in the playoffs and the
Cardinals had subsequently been to the playoffs multiple times. Next,
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she won a World Series without him. It doesn't mean
that pool Holts is a bad guy or a bad player.
He was just searching for the best deal with the
most viable team, because the best the best contract was
actually the Marlins of the time, but when Breeze announced
he was coming back, that was actually a bad thing.
And the thing that jumps out at me is the
Chargers and I know they keep finding ways to lose games.
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I feel like they're the most snake bit team in
the NFL. Derwin James out for the year, Poundcy out
for the year. You know, um, you look at how
many times they've missed games because of field goal kicking,
no matter who the field goal. Ever since Nate Katie retired,
they haven't found a solid field goal kicker. Feels like,
you know, Keenan Allen got hurt last night. He had
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gone a couple of years since getting hurt, but previous
to that, he always got hurt. Like it's always something
with Melvin Gordon holds out or Melvin Gordon comes back
and all he does score touchdowns and he fumbles right
at the end zone. Like they've had a million things
go wrong, but their process has been the right one.
Like what happened with Philip Rivers, right, Philip Rivers? Did
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you ever hear that they were unhappy with Philip Ears? No?
Do you think they were happy with Philip Rivers? The
answer is no and love the fact that he walked
away and went to Indianapolis. But they didn't bother him
that much either. There was some talks, There was a
mutual gree in, a part of parting um of a
mutual mutual parting of ways. Right, And now look at them.
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They're in a better place because they have the Air
Apparent and a justin Herbert knowing. They probably should have
taken Pat Mahomes a couple of years ago, but the
situation would have been stickier the past two years. That's
what the Saints have been unable to do because Drew
Brees won't retire. They've been unable to get that Air Apparent,
and they've had to take Bridgewater and get him on
the cheap, and now get Jamis on the cheap and
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just just hope that Breeze is either good enough or
maybe he shuts it down for a couple of games.
You can see what you have with with Jamis. They
just don't they're not willing to give Jamis a shot.
Breeze is such a historically great player that you can't
really bench him, but they're just not good enough with
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them to where you can see them actually winning big games,
especially on the road in the playoffs. You know, the
defense is okay. I can't have guys running free in
the fourth quarter and getting wide open touchdowns like Mike
Williams did that that that just can't happen. So the
Saints aren't there in that weird quarterback purgatory where they
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know they can't get to the finish line with this ship,
but they can at least be in the race for
a while. And maybe they hope everybody else falls by
the wayside, or maybe they hope they can smoke in
mirrors it until they get to a situation where breezes
guts and his determination and his brain carry the fact
that his arms in there. But you can give me
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this whole are who your record says you are. But
if you look around right now and you say, how
good to the New Orleans Saints, really they weren't really
that competitive with the Packers. They were beaten by the Raiders,
granted on on the road in the first game in Vegas,
and the wins are over Tampa. But that was first
game of the season, and Lions and Chargers to non
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playoff teams. I think the ceiling is far lower for
the Saints and Breezes mostly the reason, even though he's
been the reason for their success for many years previous
to this. Alright, coming up next, I believe there's a
rise in a star quarterback, and I also know why
everyone missed on him coming out of college. Tell you
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who that is next. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio Whap Doug Ali Show Fox Sports Radio. I
gotta admit I feel like, uh, we all kinda undersold
justin Herbert a little bit right that the at the
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end of the song, Yes, that is the end. It
just kind of I mix it together myself. I like it.
I like the mix. I like to thank you. What
is a song called Eve six Um? I they performed
I think in still Water when I was in college.
He's six is a good little band. Trying to think
the connection there there there? I think they're from around here,
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like they're from the valley or something. Anyway, Eves six,
you've six still together? They just put out an album,
I think so that would be yes, yes, yes, um.
I thought Herbert was really good. I did, and this
is justin Herbert after the loss. We gotta learn how
to close out games. You know, it's a second week
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in a row where we had a lead and we
let it go and just have to learn to close
out games. And when we're we need to keep rolling
and we need to play consistently all four quarters. And um,
that's we haven't been able to do that, you know.
It's it's fascinating a lot of these quarterbacks, a lot
of guys they want to go to T teams that
are stacked, and I mean, I think and and look,
I'm sure there's a bunch of other reasons Matt Leiner
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wasn't as successful an NFL quarterback as he was, if
not the greatest, one of the two or three greatest
college quarterbacks of all time. But what happens is all
when when you're better at the positions offense to defense,
like your flaws are going to be minimized, you just
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look better than than other than other players will. Whereas
Josh Allen, who everybody said, well, he's not accurate, and
the people who believed in Josh how are like, yeah,
but his team is terrible. His team at Wyoming is
just bad. So it's impossible to see how much is
on him, how much is on his line, how much
is on his receivers, how much is on the weather
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that they play in. You know, it was one of
the things about Jordan Love that allowed people he had
He only played two years at Utah Stags. First year
he was tremendous. His second year he was disappointing. But
they had a coaching change and they had a lot
of personnel change and they just weren't good. And it's
hard to tell, you know, but a couple of years
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and development, well, justin Herbert, justin Herbert feels like a
guy who's college offense and uh, the lack of of
taking shots down the field, I feel a lot of
that feels like coaching. Remember he was recruited by a
different staff than the two that he played for. You know,
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Mark Helfrich was the coach who signed him. Then he
plays for two different coaches in the last two years,
the last three years. Whatever. Well it's to his last
two years ago of college. He has the rose Bow
m v P and the Pac twelve m v P.
And yet people are like, yeah, I don't know, he's big,
Maybe he's missing something he missed anything. Again. I don't
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know if he'll be a superstar, but damn he looks
like a starting quarterback. That's the starting quarterback. Not not
everyone has to be the next Toime Brady. Not everyone
has to be Aaron Rodgers. Not everybody has to be
Andrew Luck. But I mean that there are a lot
of boxes that are checked by this quarterback. Be sure
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to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. He's got
the cleanest fade in the NFL or covering the NFL.
He's Chris Sims. Do you want to give away your
who your barber is in Greenwich, Connecticut? Um, yeah, I
don't care. Is he's Becker. His name's Becker. Chickasa Chikaza,
It's it's it's Hooty tooty. It's on Greenwich jab Yeah,
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you know, I don't care. I yep, pretty little, it
was clean, pretty little petty for it? Yeah, no, it was,
it was clean. I was. I was really impressed. I mean,
I I envied that fade and an HD you can
see every a hair if anywhere out of place, and
none none were out of place. Um, you've suffered through
I think an injury, which I don't want to do
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the comparing, but having having your spleen explode, it's probably
as bad as you're gonna get, um as an injury
to a quarterback. When when you saw what happened to Doc,
what was your immediate reaction just you know, heartbreak really,
And then you know, honestly, I went right to really
thinking about his contract situation. I can't lie, you know.
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You know I felt bad for the guy. I've been
around the guy before. I mean, you can see why.
You know, the team loves him and everything if you're
around him a little bit. He's an awesome human being.
He is a natural leader. He just got a great
way about a charisma, all that stuff. So it did
hurt my heart that way, And then you know, I
I did think about, Yes, you know that a pouring
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out of emotions we saw as he left the field
certainly was a moment of damn, I'm not going to
get to play any more football this year. I can't
believe this happened. I'm not gonna be able to be
out there with my teammates. But I gotta think some
of those thoughts were also, damn, I hope I'm okay.
I hope I didn't lose my chance to make the
big payday and set my family up for life and
all those things. I know, those thoughts went through my
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head when I was laying on the hospital gurney, you know,
bleeding to death. Basically, I I was in a not
a similar situation, but a situation where I had come
off being a playoff quarterback. I got uh high tendered
at the time because it was I had only been
played at three years and I was a free agent
going into my fourth year. And I probably could have
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held out and asked for more money or at least
something more along the lines of what a starting quarterback
was asking. And I tried to beat Johnny Good teammate,
Johnny Good soldier, and I left money on the table
that way. You never see it back either. So hopefully
that's not the case for Dak Prescott, but that's at
least went through my mind. Doug got lip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get to last night. Um,
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what are your impressions of Justin Herbert dishortly into his
NFL career. Well, he's got he's got superstar talent. This is,
you know, one of the things that during the draft
process that talked about a lot just with Herbert and
his ability. His ceiling is higher than anybody we had
in this past draft. I love Joe Burrow, but his
his high end, top end talent is not as good
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as what you see with Justin Herbert. Herbert's arm is
a game changer, it really is. I mean you can
see he can push the ball down the field anywhere
from ten to fifty yards and put pace on it
and put it into type tight windows. Let alone his
ability to kind of stand in the pocket. They showed
those type of things. My big thing with them is
the coach has got to take the training wheels off
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or cut the cord or whatever. And I mean themselves,
they're they're managed, they're overmanaging the game. He's ready. He
made no mistakes last night in the game. I mean
he really didn't. He played about as good as you
can play. They did him a disservice of all the
first down runs and first down run and second down
run and that, hey, Justin, can you throw a perfect
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pass on third and twelve? You know, he did a
lot of the times, but they did not help him out.
I've been really impressed with him and his ability so far. Um, okay,
were we right about Drew Brees? Wrong about Drew Brees?
He did throw one ball down the field, but he
had he had his tight end wide open, but his
beautiful ball anticipatory throw based upon coverage. What are your
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thoughts on on Drew Brees now that we've seen him
yet another game. Yeah, I mean, I don't think my
thoughts changed a whole lot, right, Like the interceptions kind
of something we've seen all year. There's a you know,
crossing route, you know, like you said to there, I
think you used the right word. You know, at times
he just he because of the lack of arm strength,
he has to anticipate throws to such a degree that
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it's it's kind of risky because you're not really like, oh,
I think he's gonna be open. I see that hole there.
I've played a lot of football. The experience tells me
it's gonna be there. But of course it's not always
perfect on the field, and one thing wrong or one
guy drops the wrong way, so he can't always see
throws that way. I don't think I changed my thoughts
about them a whole lot um. Their defense, I thought
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played better as a whole. They made some coverage mistakes,
as we saw, but other than that, they shut the
Chargers down Drew Brees. Hey, at least, what I like
from them is they got Emmanuel Sanders going in this offense,
But I don't know if Drew Brees and this offense
is gonna look the same until their best player gets
back out there. And that's number thirteen. You know, Michael
Thomas makes the offense look a whole lot better, and
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he makes Drew look better because oh, five yard completion. Oh,
but it became a nine yard completion because Michael Thomas
broke a tackle. Oh seven yard completion. Up, it became
a first down because Michael Thomas ran through an arm
tackle and made another guy missed to get fifteen yards.
He does all that, and he they exhausted him so
much that finally defenses do crazy stuff because they're like,
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we've had it. We can't let this guy keep, you know,
eating like this all day long. And that's usually what
lends itself to people open down field for Drew Brees
to hit to where he doesn't have to throw it
into a tight window. So I don't know if we'll
see the Drew Brees were accustomed to seeing until Michael
Thomas is back in the lineup. That's the voice of
Chris Simms from Football Night in America on on on NBC.
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Joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox
Sports Radio, Coaching Change and GM Change Made in Atlanta.
Matt Ryan so got one more big year left on
his contract. Um, you know how well he worked with
Kyle Shanahan, but he hasn't recaptured that same magic. Although like, look,
I don't think he's really the problem this year. Their
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defense is a is a joke, and they've gotten these
leads because he's played really good football. What's what's your sense?
So you know how it works, regime change and and
and sometimes they just make change for change's sake. What's
the likelihood that this is his last year in Atlanta? Yeah,
I mean I think there's like it's certainly up in
the air right now, because you could see like some
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regimes come into to what you're saying, right like Matt Rule,
where they just go, wait, I just want to start
off fresh, have a whole new culture here. I don't
want the old you know, the old quarterback like kind
of keeping some of the old culture here indoctrinated into
my new culture. Right. So I think there's that aspect,
and then there's the other aspect of sometimes when the
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new the new regime comes in, they leave the quarterback
status quo to almost use it as a get out
of jail free cards for a year maybe two, where oh,
if things went good, okay, I'll ride with that quarterback.
But if they went bad, really wasn't my guy, Let's
go look for my guy now, right. It gives them
that kind of like free pass that way, So I
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don't know where it goes. I do agree with you, though,
I mean, it's not Matt Ryan's fault there down there there.
I mean he's the only thing they got going. Really,
I mean, there's no team. It's it's all about Matt
Ryan in and Julio Jones and Grady Jarrett. They've paid
three guys the whole damn salary gap. So uh oh,
Julio Jones is hurt. Well, now they're in trouble. Now
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it's becaust Matt Ryan and only Calvin Ridley. They gotta
make it happen on the offensive side of the ball.
It's just been you know, poor team building, two top heavy,
you know, two star studded of a roster there to
where we've seen the last few years. If you guys
get hurt and the team just absolutely falls apart, like
they can't handle it at all, and that's the team building.
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And then of course I think the coaching kind of
fell on stale ears. But yeah, we'll see. I don't know.
I mean, if if you have the number one pick
in the draft, and as much as I think of
Matt Ryan, I think the Falcons whoever the coaches would
be crazy not to take Trevor Lawrence. I mean I
would have been Trevor Lawrence. To me, he looks like
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a more polished Justin Herbert. He's a superstar. I mean
that's what he is. So uh, it's gonna be interesting
this year. I feel like it's setting up right now,
Doug to be like the most the biggest fight we've
ever seen for one guy ever in our life. And
some of these some of these NFL teams might have
franchise quarterbacks that they thought they had and might move
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on just because of Trevor Lawrence. And how specially is
I mean, I know, up here in New York, the
Giants and Jets. There's a lot of talk that they
would do it maybe and things like that. So I
am very interested to see how it all plays out. Um.
That's uh, that's that's fascinating. Um. I'm I'm of the
different mindset if it's the Jets, Like, the Jets have
so many holes that if you can get that pick
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and and I still believe that you can save Sam
Ronald right, I think he can. I legit think he
can play. I don't know if there's too many bad
habits and he's taken too much of a beating, but
we'll see. But I would I would move that pick
because it's going to be so valuable and rebuild your
entire team around that pick. That would be what what
I would do if I was the Jets. I'm would you, Doug,
That's what I would do too. I mean it just
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you know, we're in this era though, as we as
we've talked about many times over the last two years,
it's quarterback, quarterback, quarterback back, and people have forgot about No,
it's team, team, team, team, And I promise you your
quarterback will look pretty damn good. If you built a
team around him, and I think that's the case for
the Jets and the Giants. I think their guys are good.
I'm not you know, Donald Daniel Jones. No, they're not
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gonna be Patrick Mahomes or any of that. But you
can win games, go to playoffs with a super Bowl
with these guys. But the team is depleted. There's nothing there.
So I'm with you in that sense all the way.
Chris Sims, our guest in the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio, Um, are you surprised? I guess
what's your reaction? Golf seems to have played much better
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last year. Last year's teams made him beat them, and
by all accounts, he was unable to. I know they
finished nine and seven, but he wasn't as good as
people thought he should be, not having having played in
the Super Bowl. This year, he seems better. What are
they doing or what is he doing that he's so
much better this year? Yeah, I think you know, first off,
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the run game is more legitimate this year to where
it's it's f seeing defenses that really have to worry
about it. Last year, I think when teams after the
first few weeks realized whoa the rams can't really run
the football. They kind of sat back and just said,
you know what, let's just wait for the bootleg and
the play action. That's what's killing everybody this year. It's
not necessarily taught Gurley. They've gotten some of their offensive
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line issues figured out, they really have. And then mcveigh's
added a few wrinkles to his run game and play
action pass and boots and all that. You know, not
that it's overly complicated, but the way McVey calls the game,
the sequencing in which he calls his plays, it really
stresses the defense out. And he could use a package
of six plays really at times and just keep calling
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them over and over and between the pace of the
offense and how you're defending, and how he's taught Jared
Goff the line of scrimmage, they'll pick the right play
every time to where the defense will never be right
and their alignment. So golf is great at the line
of scrimmage. In passing along the McVey message, mcveigh's a genius,
and then I think to what you're saying is when
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there's big plays there to be had and some throws
down the field this year and oh wait, McVeigh didn't
deliver a wide open guy. Golf has made place to
kind of cover his butt to where last year, I
think we questioned that a little bit. Let's it's a
it's a very fair point. Um. Feels like there's some
frustration in San Francisco with Garoppolo. I get that he's
not healthy. Was she Inahan upset it himself that he
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played in before he was healthy, or upset that Garoppolo
is still making some of the same mistakes. Well, I
would knowing my friend, who you know, I haven't talked
to really in a while here, but knowing him, I
bet you he's disappointed he put him out there. Just
knowing him, you know, of course he doesn't like seeing
the mistakes. But you know, my buddy Kyle is a
pretty real dude. He's pretty honest with himself, and I
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would think he walked away from that game going, man, oh,
I put him out there and really a position to
you know, it was hard for him to succeed. Really,
he could not move in the pocket. You could certainly see,
couldn't push off that back back right leg and drive
through the football. A lot of boss fluttered in the air,
and we're off target and all that. But I understand
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why I played him too. I mean, he's a little panicked.
Of course he is. His team's fallen apart. They've been
so injured. The quarterback play was horrible last week, so
he went back to his guy, hoping that could maybe
just study the ship, and maybe went back to him
a week too early. So we'll see where that goes.
They're reeling right now. I am concerned about the forty niners,
and you know, I just hope it didn't hurt Garoppolo
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so much then now that he's worse off this week
against the Rams, and we'll see where it goes. But
you're right, I feel like the national story everyone's a
little unsettled in Garoppolo. Garoppolo is not the problem. We
haven't seen him do anything enough good or bad to
say he's the problem. Yet there's injuries that defense has hurt.
I mean, it was just overall team issues there in
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San Francisco right now. Chris, great stuff man, good seeing
you on TV. Better catching up with you on radio,
and uh can continued luck on getting those clear fades
because we know, you know, just just one, just one.
You're like, oh, sorry about that. And you gotta cover up. Yeah,
you're right. I know I better be careful about that.
But thanks for the interaction on Twitter, buddy, appreciate a brother.
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game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Bye, what
he got Doug? The game today is all right, Let's
start out on the diamond. Doug, rank your three must
watch players left in the Major League Baseball season. A
bunch of good ones. You got Ronald Kuna Jr. Carlos Korea,
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Jose l Tove, Cody Bellinger, Mookie Betts your top three,
and not even for the ones that I mentioned, but
players that are must watch in the Major League Baseball season.
I'm gonna go Kershaw three, just because he's you know,
he's never won a World Series. He's always had his hiccups.
And even though this version is a much more of
an off speed Curveball edition of him. I mean he
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you still you root for him as the best picture
of the last fifteen years, and he hasn't won that
World Series yet, right, Um, So that that would be
my three. Two would be a Kuna Jr. I think
he is an absolute breakthrough star. Um. And then one
would be Mookie Betts, because the contract, because he's in
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l A, because he's done it with the Red Sox before, reputation,
et cetera. Mookie Betts would be my number one guy
that you want to watch, alright. Doug shifting from Major
League Baseball to the National Football League, rank the top
three teams who need a quarterback the most in the
NFL draft. I'm gonna put Jacksonville at three. Um, I'm
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gonna put Chicago at two. I'm gonna put Indie at one.
The reason Indies one is I think they're a really
good team with a very good young defense. I think
they have a running back of the future. Um, who's
an absolute star in in Jonathan Taylor. I just they're
a quarterback away still and Philip Rivers continues to show
his age. They obviously do not believe in uh Jacoby Brissette,
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and so I would say that they're the number one team. Alright, Doug,
rank your top three NBA title contenders for one. Um,
I'll put the Lakers at three, the Clippers at two,
and I'm going to put the Warriors at one. Warriors
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did win three out of four. Um. Obviously they lost Durand,
but they've added some pieces and they've had a year
off and they'll be able to add I've talked to
some people in the Warriors. I know some of the
guys they're looking at drafting wise. They may trade down
as well, but they feel really good about what they have. Alright, Doug,
rank your top three teams. Then Anthony Davis could be
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on next season. You could opt out of that deal
and uh maybe go elsewhere. But possible destinations for a
d Okay, possible destinations. We'll put the Knicks at three.
Right if he just he wants to go and run
New York and be the Knicks at three. Um, yeah,
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I don't to the Bulls at two right from Chicago.
They obviously need a signature player. And then the Lakers
at one. I wasn't as gonna be Lakers one, two
and three, but I mean I I it's ninety eight percent,
and then uh three quarters per cent and uh whatever
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one one in three quarters percent and a quarter percent. Next,
that's alright. Final one. This we have Tuesday Night Football tonight, Doug,
rank your top three nights that you like to watch football. Great,
great question. Um, Sunday Night is one, okay, so I
gotta go backwards. I apologize. Um, Thursday night is is three.
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Mm hm. I kind of like Tuesday Night. I'm gonna
go Tuesday night too, and Sunday Night one. My problem
with Monday Night is ESPN keeps doing it where they
keeps showing me highlights that I've already said are a
day and a half old, and I just I can't.
I can't do it. And I know everybody's like, I
want I missed Burman's and they brought Burman back. What's
going on with Burman's hair? Does anybody know I've missed?
(32:43):
I did not see. I usually need you to go.
Chris Burman's hair need to go. And that's game time.
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Doug
gotlip show here on ox Sport Trade. Yeah, it's it's
like like he looks like he dyed it brown, but
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then it's white as well, and then none of it's
actually on the top of his head. It looks like
he's gonna be Hulk Hogan for Halloween. That's where like
it's starting. It's very unique. It is very very unique.
It is odd. That is what it is. It's super odd.
It's like one of the what is what's going on?
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Who said? Who is this hit there and goes like, Yep,
that's what we're doing. I just went to a site
by the way that had a video of the guests
that you just had on Chris Sims, and so it's
like a comparison because there's a picture of Burman under
him and you started the whole interview with Chris Sim's
talking about how great his hair looked, and then right
below it you have uh Berman's blondish look pretty amazing.
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What is what is going on with that hair? I
just I gotta figure it out. Did you see it
last night music or do you not watch it? I
very briefly got a glimpse of it, and it's, um.
It looks like his barber was rumbling and stumbling through
the haircuts. That's what it looks like. It's so weird,
like when you're a guy, you're able to get away
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with having bad hair, like with women, were just we're
vicious about it, right women. But he's able to get away,
but I don't. It's it's like, is he able to
get away with the Doug Well if it was normal
or like he just I don't know. I don't know
what's going on there. You know what he needs? But
a raiser, come on, come on, he did do it.
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The references which are so dated, like there's four year
people going like, I don't know what the hell he's
talking about. That's from the seventies. That's way before me,
way before me. Come up next, Should the Falcons move
on from Matt Rhyme Mattie Ice? He's come Mattie Ice
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(34:58):
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We got some stuff to talk about as well. Interesting
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Great fade for of his hair Chris Simms will join us.
Let me start with this. Last night, the New Orleans
Saints in overtime won by a field goal over the
l A Chargers. The only reason the game was in
overtime was, well, it's the Chargers, all right, Uh. The
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money Badger as their kicker, Michael Badgeley's known as jinked one,
missed one in and a p A T which allowed
the Saints to tie in regulation, and then had a
chance to win the game with a fifty yard field
goal where he hit the upright. It wasn't a complete shank,
but it didn't draw it either, and the Chargers went
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to overtime. They gave up a field goal to the Saints.
They drove down and end up with nothing. They were about,
I don't know, two ft short of a first down.
Mike Williams got tackled, but part of it was Herbert's
throw was slightly behind and slightly high, and so Mike
Williams couldn't just catch it and keep running where he
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would have gotten the first down. But the bigger story
is the New Orleans Saints, who if you looked at
their record, you'd go like, all right, what's the big deal?
Here the Saints are in a competitive division at the
top of it at two and oh, and they have
a win over the Tampa Buccaneers. It's a great win.
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Up next to the is the surprising Carolina Panthers. Then
they go to Chicago take on the Bears. Then they
go to Tampa take on the Bucks, the Niners, the Falcons,
the Broncos, the Falcons, the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Vikings,
the Panthers. It's not a not a crazy schedule and
one where you're gonna see them win between ten and
twelve games. Fairly handling. But this is supposed to be
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a Super Bowl team. And what happened to the Saints. Um,
I actually think it's understandable. It's reasonable, like, well, there's
a little bit of a smoke screen there. Two years
ago when they lost the Rams, everybody made a huge deal,
huge deal about the no call of past interference on
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third down. On fourth down, they kicked a field goal
the Rams. Both teams got the ball in regulation in overtime,
and then the Rams end up winning in overtime. People
people want to make it sound like passe interference was
the last play of the game. It wasn't it also
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wasn't the most important play even of that series. On
first down, Drew Brees audibilized out of a sure sheer
sure run and threw the ball at the feet and
behind his wide receiver. That stopped the clock, That allowed
and turned the Rams to ultimately get the football back
instead of them running it out, running out and kicking
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a field goal as time expired, or scoring a touchdown
as time expired, they did not. Secondly, the Saints got
the ball back in overtime, could do nothing with it.
Oh yeah, and I actually think uh Breeze month throw
an interception in overtime turned it over. Then this year
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they got behind big to the Minnesota Vikings at home,
couldn't move the football right and and yes, Kirk Cousins
made an incredible throw to end up winning the game.
And yes there was another controversy, but there was another
stalled drive, series of stall drives, but a big stall
drive by Drew Brees. They've been hiding the fact that
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Drew Brees can't lead them to a super Bowl for
the last two years because of blown calls. Heck, even
if you go back three years ago when they had
a good team, they were a wild card team. They
went on the road to take on the Minnesota Vikings,
and we're gonna win and pull off an upset. It
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likely weren't gonna be Philadelphia on the road the next weekend.
But that play, the Minnesota miracle again overshadows that Breezes
arm at the end of the last couple of seasons
hasn't been good enough. Now Here we are in the
beginning of the regular season, and though he threw a
couple of good balls, one it's indoors. Two, there's just
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a limit there to what he's able to do. Like,
why do they keep bringing Tastom Hill in the game.
Why do you think Do you think Sean Payton's just
doing it because he wants confirmation over his desire to
see Tastom he'll be the heir apparent, or you think
it puts his team and what he thinks is the
best situation to win and to score. Because there's limitations
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on what Drew Brees can do. He's not mobile and
he can't row guys open anymore because he doesn't have
the pop in his arm. Here's the Saints offense. Give
it to Kimera or hope you get something crossing underneath
where Drew Brees can throw it and lead a guy
and he can make a play. Granted, they don't have
Michael Thomas. I would grant you. You take the best
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player off any team, you're gonna look different offensively. But
Michael Thomas is not a deep threat. And this and
they don't have explosive plays, even though they have explosive players,
and that comes down to the quarterback. The difference here
is and like, look, I used this the St. Louis
Cardinals is the best analogy they had Albert Pools. Albert
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Pools won a nine year contract. They offered him a
six year contract at the end of his final season
with the Cardinals. They offered him just enough so that
they could say we offered him a nine year deal,
but not enough to really be a player, and they
bid him ado. Then he went to the Angels, where
he's only had one year in the playoffs and the
Cardinals had subsequently been to the playoffs multiple times. Next,
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she won a World Series without him. It doesn't mean
that pool Holts is a bad guy or a bad player.
He was just searching for the best deal with the
most viable team, because the best the best contract was
actually the Marlins of the time, but when Breeze announced
he was coming back, that was actually a bad thing.
And the thing that jumps out at me is the
Chargers and I know they keep finding ways to lose games.
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I feel like they're the most snake bit team in
the NFL. Derwin James out for the year, Poundcy out
for the year. You know, um, you look at how
many times they've missed games because of field goal kicking,
no matter who the field goal. Ever since Nate Katie retired,
they haven't found a solid field goal kicker. Feels like,
you know, Keenan Allen got hurt last night. He had
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gone a couple of years since getting hurt, but previous
to that, he always got hurt. Like it's always something
with Melvin Gordon holds out or Melvin Gordon comes back
and all he does score touchdowns and he fumbles right
at the end zone. Like they've had a million things
go wrong, but their process has been the right one.
Like what happened with Philip Rivers, right, Philip Rivers? Did
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you ever hear that they were unhappy with Philip Ears? No?
Do you think they were happy with Philip Rivers? The
answer is no and love the fact that he walked
away and went to Indianapolis. But they didn't bother him
that much either. There was some talks, There was a
mutual gree in, a part of parting um of a
mutual mutual parting of ways. Right, And now look at them.
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They're in a better place because they have the Air
Apparent and a justin Herbert knowing. They probably should have
taken Pat Mahomes a couple of years ago, but the
situation would have been stickier the past two years. That's
what the Saints have been unable to do because Drew
Brees won't retire. They've been unable to get that Air Apparent,
and they've had to take Bridgewater and get him on
the cheap, and now get Jamis on the cheap and
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just just hope that Breeze is either good enough or
maybe he shuts it down for a couple of games.
You can see what you have with with Jamis. They
just don't they're not willing to give Jamis a shot.
Breeze is such a historically great player that you can't
really bench him, but they're just not good enough with
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them to where you can see them actually winning big games,
especially on the road in the playoffs. You know, the
defense is okay. I can't have guys running free in
the fourth quarter and getting wide open touchdowns like Mike
Williams did that that that just can't happen. So the
Saints aren't there in that weird quarterback purgatory where they
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know they can't get to the finish line with this ship,
but they can at least be in the race for
a while. And maybe they hope everybody else falls by
the wayside, or maybe they hope they can smoke in
mirrors it until they get to a situation where breezes
guts and his determination and his brain carry the fact
that his arms in there. But you can give me
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this whole are who your record says you are. But
if you look around right now and you say, how
good to the New Orleans Saints, really they weren't really
that competitive with the Packers. They were beaten by the Raiders,
granted on on the road in the first game in Vegas,
and the wins are over Tampa. But that was first
game of the season, and Lions and Chargers to non
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playoff teams. I think the ceiling is far lower for
the Saints and Breezes mostly the reason, even though he's
been the reason for their success for many years previous
to this. Alright, coming up next, I believe there's a
rise in a star quarterback, and I also know why
everyone missed on him coming out of college. Tell you
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who that is next. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio Whap Doug Ali Show Fox Sports Radio. I
gotta admit I feel like, uh, we all kinda undersold
justin Herbert a little bit right that the at the
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end of the song, Yes, that is the end. It
just kind of I mix it together myself. I like it.
I like the mix. I like to thank you. What
is a song called Eve six Um? I they performed
I think in still Water when I was in college.
He's six is a good little band. Trying to think
the connection there there there? I think they're from around here,
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like they're from the valley or something. Anyway, Eves six,
you've six still together? They just put out an album,
I think so that would be yes, yes, yes, um.
I thought Herbert was really good. I did, and this
is justin Herbert after the loss. We gotta learn how
to close out games. You know, it's a second week
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in a row where we had a lead and we
let it go and just have to learn to close
out games. And when we're we need to keep rolling
and we need to play consistently all four quarters. And um,
that's we haven't been able to do that, you know.
It's it's fascinating a lot of these quarterbacks, a lot
of guys they want to go to T teams that
are stacked, and I mean, I think and and look,
I'm sure there's a bunch of other reasons Matt Leiner
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wasn't as successful an NFL quarterback as he was, if
not the greatest, one of the two or three greatest
college quarterbacks of all time. But what happens is all
when when you're better at the positions offense to defense,
like your flaws are going to be minimized, you just
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look better than than other than other players will. Whereas
Josh Allen, who everybody said, well, he's not accurate, and
the people who believed in Josh how are like, yeah,
but his team is terrible. His team at Wyoming is
just bad. So it's impossible to see how much is
on him, how much is on his line, how much
is on his receivers, how much is on the weather
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that they play in. You know, it was one of
the things about Jordan Love that allowed people he had
He only played two years at Utah Stags. First year
he was tremendous. His second year he was disappointing. But
they had a coaching change and they had a lot
of personnel change and they just weren't good. And it's
hard to tell, you know, but a couple of years
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and development, well, justin Herbert, justin Herbert feels like a
guy who's college offense and uh, the lack of of
taking shots down the field, I feel a lot of
that feels like coaching. Remember he was recruited by a
different staff than the two that he played for. You know,
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Mark Helfrich was the coach who signed him. Then he
plays for two different coaches in the last two years,
the last three years. Whatever. Well it's to his last
two years ago of college. He has the rose Bow
m v P and the Pac twelve m v P.
And yet people are like, yeah, I don't know, he's big,
Maybe he's missing something he missed anything. Again. I don't
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know if he'll be a superstar, but damn he looks
like a starting quarterback. That's the starting quarterback. Not not
everyone has to be the next Toime Brady. Not everyone
has to be Aaron Rodgers. Not everybody has to be
Andrew Luck. But I mean that there are a lot
of boxes that are checked by this quarterback. Be sure
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to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. He's got
the cleanest fade in the NFL or covering the NFL.
He's Chris Sims. Do you want to give away your
who your barber is in Greenwich, Connecticut? Um, yeah, I
don't care. Is he's Becker. His name's Becker. Chickasa Chikaza,
It's it's it's Hooty tooty. It's on Greenwich jab Yeah,
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you know, I don't care. I yep, pretty little, it
was clean, pretty little petty for it? Yeah, no, it was,
it was clean. I was. I was really impressed. I mean,
I I envied that fade and an HD you can
see every a hair if anywhere out of place, and
none none were out of place. Um, you've suffered through
I think an injury, which I don't want to do
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the comparing, but having having your spleen explode, it's probably
as bad as you're gonna get, um as an injury
to a quarterback. When when you saw what happened to Doc,
what was your immediate reaction just you know, heartbreak really,
And then you know, honestly, I went right to really
thinking about his contract situation. I can't lie, you know.
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You know I felt bad for the guy. I've been
around the guy before. I mean, you can see why.
You know, the team loves him and everything if you're
around him a little bit. He's an awesome human being.
He is a natural leader. He just got a great
way about a charisma, all that stuff. So it did
hurt my heart that way, And then you know, I
I did think about, Yes, you know that a pouring
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out of emotions we saw as he left the field
certainly was a moment of damn, I'm not going to
get to play any more football this year. I can't
believe this happened. I'm not gonna be able to be
out there with my teammates. But I gotta think some
of those thoughts were also, damn, I hope I'm okay.
I hope I didn't lose my chance to make the
big payday and set my family up for life and
all those things. I know, those thoughts went through my
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head when I was laying on the hospital gurney, you know,
bleeding to death. Basically, I I was in a not
a similar situation, but a situation where I had come
off being a playoff quarterback. I got uh high tendered
at the time because it was I had only been
played at three years and I was a free agent
going into my fourth year. And I probably could have
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held out and asked for more money or at least
something more along the lines of what a starting quarterback
was asking. And I tried to beat Johnny Good teammate,
Johnny Good soldier, and I left money on the table
that way. You never see it back either. So hopefully
that's not the case for Dak Prescott, but that's at
least went through my mind. Doug got lip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get to last night. Um,
(17:00):
what are your impressions of Justin Herbert dishortly into his
NFL career. Well, he's got he's got superstar talent. This is,
you know, one of the things that during the draft
process that talked about a lot just with Herbert and
his ability. His ceiling is higher than anybody we had
in this past draft. I love Joe Burrow, but his
his high end, top end talent is not as good
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as what you see with Justin Herbert. Herbert's arm is
a game changer, it really is. I mean you can
see he can push the ball down the field anywhere
from ten to fifty yards and put pace on it
and put it into type tight windows. Let alone his
ability to kind of stand in the pocket. They showed
those type of things. My big thing with them is
the coach has got to take the training wheels off
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or cut the cord or whatever. And I mean themselves,
they're they're managed, they're overmanaging the game. He's ready. He
made no mistakes last night in the game. I mean
he really didn't. He played about as good as you
can play. They did him a disservice of all the
first down runs and first down run and second down
run and that, hey, Justin, can you throw a perfect
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pass on third and twelve? You know, he did a
lot of the times, but they did not help him out.
I've been really impressed with him and his ability so far. Um, okay,
were we right about Drew Brees? Wrong about Drew Brees?
He did throw one ball down the field, but he
had he had his tight end wide open, but his
beautiful ball anticipatory throw based upon coverage. What are your
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thoughts on on Drew Brees now that we've seen him
yet another game. Yeah, I mean, I don't think my
thoughts changed a whole lot, right, Like the interceptions kind
of something we've seen all year. There's a you know,
crossing route, you know, like you said to there, I
think you used the right word. You know, at times
he just he because of the lack of arm strength,
he has to anticipate throws to such a degree that
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it's it's kind of risky because you're not really like, oh,
I think he's gonna be open. I see that hole there.
I've played a lot of football. The experience tells me
it's gonna be there. But of course it's not always
perfect on the field, and one thing wrong or one
guy drops the wrong way, so he can't always see
throws that way. I don't think I changed my thoughts
about them a whole lot um. Their defense, I thought
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played better as a whole. They made some coverage mistakes,
as we saw, but other than that, they shut the
Chargers down Drew Brees. Hey, at least, what I like
from them is they got Emmanuel Sanders going in this offense,
But I don't know if Drew Brees and this offense
is gonna look the same until their best player gets
back out there. And that's number thirteen. You know, Michael
Thomas makes the offense look a whole lot better, and
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he makes Drew look better because oh, five yard completion. Oh,
but it became a nine yard completion because Michael Thomas
broke a tackle. Oh seven yard completion. Up, it became
a first down because Michael Thomas ran through an arm
tackle and made another guy missed to get fifteen yards.
He does all that, and he they exhausted him so
much that finally defenses do crazy stuff because they're like,
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we've had it. We can't let this guy keep, you know,
eating like this all day long. And that's usually what
lends itself to people open down field for Drew Brees
to hit to where he doesn't have to throw it
into a tight window. So I don't know if we'll
see the Drew Brees were accustomed to seeing until Michael
Thomas is back in the lineup. That's the voice of
Chris Simms from Football Night in America on on on NBC.
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Joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox
Sports Radio, Coaching Change and GM Change Made in Atlanta.
Matt Ryan so got one more big year left on
his contract. Um, you know how well he worked with
Kyle Shanahan, but he hasn't recaptured that same magic. Although like, look,
I don't think he's really the problem this year. Their
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defense is a is a joke, and they've gotten these
leads because he's played really good football. What's what's your sense?
So you know how it works, regime change and and
and sometimes they just make change for change's sake. What's
the likelihood that this is his last year in Atlanta? Yeah,
I mean I think there's like it's certainly up in
the air right now, because you could see like some
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regimes come into to what you're saying, right like Matt Rule,
where they just go, wait, I just want to start
off fresh, have a whole new culture here. I don't
want the old you know, the old quarterback like kind
of keeping some of the old culture here indoctrinated into
my new culture. Right. So I think there's that aspect,
and then there's the other aspect of sometimes when the
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new the new regime comes in, they leave the quarterback
status quo to almost use it as a get out
of jail free cards for a year maybe two, where oh,
if things went good, okay, I'll ride with that quarterback.
But if they went bad, really wasn't my guy, Let's
go look for my guy now, right. It gives them
that kind of like free pass that way, So I
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don't know where it goes. I do agree with you, though,
I mean, it's not Matt Ryan's fault there down there there.
I mean he's the only thing they got going. Really,
I mean, there's no team. It's it's all about Matt
Ryan in and Julio Jones and Grady Jarrett. They've paid
three guys the whole damn salary gap. So uh oh,
Julio Jones is hurt. Well, now they're in trouble. Now
(22:08):
it's becaust Matt Ryan and only Calvin Ridley. They gotta
make it happen on the offensive side of the ball.
It's just been you know, poor team building, two top heavy,
you know, two star studded of a roster there to
where we've seen the last few years. If you guys
get hurt and the team just absolutely falls apart, like
they can't handle it at all, and that's the team building.
(22:28):
And then of course I think the coaching kind of
fell on stale ears. But yeah, we'll see. I don't know.
I mean, if if you have the number one pick
in the draft, and as much as I think of
Matt Ryan, I think the Falcons whoever the coaches would
be crazy not to take Trevor Lawrence. I mean I
would have been Trevor Lawrence. To me, he looks like
(22:49):
a more polished Justin Herbert. He's a superstar. I mean
that's what he is. So uh, it's gonna be interesting
this year. I feel like it's setting up right now,
Doug to be like the most the biggest fight we've
ever seen for one guy ever in our life. And
some of these some of these NFL teams might have
franchise quarterbacks that they thought they had and might move
(23:10):
on just because of Trevor Lawrence. And how specially is
I mean, I know, up here in New York, the
Giants and Jets. There's a lot of talk that they
would do it maybe and things like that. So I
am very interested to see how it all plays out. Um.
That's uh, that's that's fascinating. Um. I'm I'm of the
different mindset if it's the Jets, Like, the Jets have
so many holes that if you can get that pick
(23:32):
and and I still believe that you can save Sam
Ronald right, I think he can. I legit think he
can play. I don't know if there's too many bad
habits and he's taken too much of a beating, but
we'll see. But I would I would move that pick
because it's going to be so valuable and rebuild your
entire team around that pick. That would be what what
I would do if I was the Jets. I'm would you, Doug,
That's what I would do too. I mean it just
(23:53):
you know, we're in this era though, as we as
we've talked about many times over the last two years,
it's quarterback, quarterback, quarterback back, and people have forgot about No,
it's team, team, team, team, And I promise you your
quarterback will look pretty damn good. If you built a
team around him, and I think that's the case for
the Jets and the Giants. I think their guys are good.
I'm not you know, Donald Daniel Jones. No, they're not
(24:14):
gonna be Patrick Mahomes or any of that. But you
can win games, go to playoffs with a super Bowl
with these guys. But the team is depleted. There's nothing there.
So I'm with you in that sense all the way.
Chris Sims, our guest in the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio, Um, are you surprised? I guess
what's your reaction? Golf seems to have played much better
(24:35):
last year. Last year's teams made him beat them, and
by all accounts, he was unable to. I know they
finished nine and seven, but he wasn't as good as
people thought he should be, not having having played in
the Super Bowl. This year, he seems better. What are
they doing or what is he doing that he's so
much better this year? Yeah, I think you know, first off,
(24:56):
the run game is more legitimate this year to where
it's it's f seeing defenses that really have to worry
about it. Last year, I think when teams after the
first few weeks realized whoa the rams can't really run
the football. They kind of sat back and just said,
you know what, let's just wait for the bootleg and
the play action. That's what's killing everybody this year. It's
not necessarily taught Gurley. They've gotten some of their offensive
(25:18):
line issues figured out, they really have. And then mcveigh's
added a few wrinkles to his run game and play
action pass and boots and all that. You know, not
that it's overly complicated, but the way McVey calls the game,
the sequencing in which he calls his plays, it really
stresses the defense out. And he could use a package
of six plays really at times and just keep calling
(25:41):
them over and over and between the pace of the
offense and how you're defending, and how he's taught Jared
Goff the line of scrimmage, they'll pick the right play
every time to where the defense will never be right
and their alignment. So golf is great at the line
of scrimmage. In passing along the McVey message, mcveigh's a genius,
and then I think to what you're saying is when
(26:02):
there's big plays there to be had and some throws
down the field this year and oh wait, McVeigh didn't
deliver a wide open guy. Golf has made place to
kind of cover his butt to where last year, I
think we questioned that a little bit. Let's it's a
it's a very fair point. Um. Feels like there's some
frustration in San Francisco with Garoppolo. I get that he's
not healthy. Was she Inahan upset it himself that he
(26:25):
played in before he was healthy, or upset that Garoppolo
is still making some of the same mistakes. Well, I
would knowing my friend, who you know, I haven't talked
to really in a while here, but knowing him, I
bet you he's disappointed he put him out there. Just
knowing him, you know, of course he doesn't like seeing
the mistakes. But you know, my buddy Kyle is a
pretty real dude. He's pretty honest with himself, and I
(26:48):
would think he walked away from that game going, man, oh,
I put him out there and really a position to
you know, it was hard for him to succeed. Really,
he could not move in the pocket. You could certainly see,
couldn't push off that back back right leg and drive
through the football. A lot of boss fluttered in the air,
and we're off target and all that. But I understand
(27:08):
why I played him too. I mean, he's a little panicked.
Of course he is. His team's fallen apart. They've been
so injured. The quarterback play was horrible last week, so
he went back to his guy, hoping that could maybe
just study the ship, and maybe went back to him
a week too early. So we'll see where that goes.
They're reeling right now. I am concerned about the forty niners,
and you know, I just hope it didn't hurt Garoppolo
(27:31):
so much then now that he's worse off this week
against the Rams, and we'll see where it goes. But
you're right, I feel like the national story everyone's a
little unsettled in Garoppolo. Garoppolo is not the problem. We
haven't seen him do anything enough good or bad to
say he's the problem. Yet there's injuries that defense has hurt.
I mean, it was just overall team issues there in
(27:52):
San Francisco right now. Chris, great stuff man, good seeing
you on TV. Better catching up with you on radio,
and uh can continued luck on getting those clear fades
because we know, you know, just just one, just one.
You're like, oh, sorry about that. And you gotta cover up. Yeah,
you're right. I know I better be careful about that.
But thanks for the interaction on Twitter, buddy, appreciate a brother.
(28:12):
That's that's Chris Sims clean his fade in national television.
Coming up next, the team that needs to draft a quarterback.
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search f s R to listen live. Okay, this is
(28:35):
game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Bye, what
he got Doug? The game today is all right, Let's
start out on the diamond. Doug, rank your three must
watch players left in the Major League Baseball season. A
bunch of good ones. You got Ronald Kuna Jr. Carlos Korea,
(28:58):
Jose l Tove, Cody Bellinger, Mookie Betts your top three,
and not even for the ones that I mentioned, but
players that are must watch in the Major League Baseball season.
I'm gonna go Kershaw three, just because he's you know,
he's never won a World Series. He's always had his hiccups.
And even though this version is a much more of
an off speed Curveball edition of him. I mean he
(29:18):
you still you root for him as the best picture
of the last fifteen years, and he hasn't won that
World Series yet, right, Um, So that that would be
my three. Two would be a Kuna Jr. I think
he is an absolute breakthrough star. Um. And then one
would be Mookie Betts, because the contract, because he's in
(29:39):
l A, because he's done it with the Red Sox before, reputation,
et cetera. Mookie Betts would be my number one guy
that you want to watch, alright. Doug shifting from Major
League Baseball to the National Football League, rank the top
three teams who need a quarterback the most in the
NFL draft. I'm gonna put Jacksonville at three. Um, I'm
(30:00):
gonna put Chicago at two. I'm gonna put Indie at one.
The reason Indies one is I think they're a really
good team with a very good young defense. I think
they have a running back of the future. Um, who's
an absolute star in in Jonathan Taylor. I just they're
a quarterback away still and Philip Rivers continues to show
his age. They obviously do not believe in uh Jacoby Brissette,
(30:25):
and so I would say that they're the number one team. Alright, Doug,
rank your top three NBA title contenders for one. Um,
I'll put the Lakers at three, the Clippers at two,
and I'm going to put the Warriors at one. Warriors
(30:49):
did win three out of four. Um. Obviously they lost Durand,
but they've added some pieces and they've had a year
off and they'll be able to add I've talked to
some people in the Warriors. I know some of the
guys they're looking at drafting wise. They may trade down
as well, but they feel really good about what they have. Alright, Doug,
rank your top three teams. Then Anthony Davis could be
(31:11):
on next season. You could opt out of that deal
and uh maybe go elsewhere. But possible destinations for a
d Okay, possible destinations. We'll put the Knicks at three.
Right if he just he wants to go and run
New York and be the Knicks at three. Um, yeah,
(31:32):
I don't to the Bulls at two right from Chicago.
They obviously need a signature player. And then the Lakers
at one. I wasn't as gonna be Lakers one, two
and three, but I mean I I it's ninety eight percent,
and then uh three quarters per cent and uh whatever
(31:54):
one one in three quarters percent and a quarter percent. Next,
that's alright. Final one. This we have Tuesday Night Football tonight, Doug,
rank your top three nights that you like to watch football. Great,
great question. Um, Sunday Night is one, okay, so I
gotta go backwards. I apologize. Um, Thursday night is is three.
(32:20):
Mm hm. I kind of like Tuesday Night. I'm gonna
go Tuesday night too, and Sunday Night one. My problem
with Monday Night is ESPN keeps doing it where they
keeps showing me highlights that I've already said are a
day and a half old, and I just I can't.
I can't do it. And I know everybody's like, I
want I missed Burman's and they brought Burman back. What's
going on with Burman's hair? Does anybody know I've missed?
(32:43):
I did not see. I usually need you to go.
Chris Burman's hair need to go. And that's game time.
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Doug
gotlip show here on ox Sport Trade. Yeah, it's it's
like like he looks like he dyed it brown, but
(33:05):
then it's white as well, and then none of it's
actually on the top of his head. It looks like
he's gonna be Hulk Hogan for Halloween. That's where like
it's starting. It's very unique. It is very very unique.
It is odd. That is what it is. It's super odd.
It's like one of the what is what's going on?
(33:25):
Who said? Who is this hit there and goes like, Yep,
that's what we're doing. I just went to a site
by the way that had a video of the guests
that you just had on Chris Sims, and so it's
like a comparison because there's a picture of Burman under
him and you started the whole interview with Chris Sim's
talking about how great his hair looked, and then right
below it you have uh Berman's blondish look pretty amazing.
(33:48):
What is what is going on with that hair? I
just I gotta figure it out. Did you see it
last night music or do you not watch it? I
very briefly got a glimpse of it, and it's, um.
It looks like his barber was rumbling and stumbling through
the haircuts. That's what it looks like. It's so weird,
like when you're a guy, you're able to get away
(34:09):
with having bad hair, like with women, were just we're
vicious about it, right women. But he's able to get away,
but I don't. It's it's like, is he able to
get away with the Doug Well if it was normal
or like he just I don't know. I don't know
what's going on there. You know what he needs? But
a raiser, come on, come on, he did do it.
(34:37):
The references which are so dated, like there's four year
people going like, I don't know what the hell he's
talking about. That's from the seventies. That's way before me,
way before me. Come up next, Should the Falcons move
on from Matt Rhyme Mattie Ice? He's come Mattie Ice
the m v P, A guy who led them to
a twenty eight to three lead. Now we got questions
(34:58):
as to long term should they move on? We'll discuss
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