November 27, 2020 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer and Jonas Knox, in for Doug Gottlieb, disagree on how the Miami Dolphins are handling Tua Tagovailoa’s playing time, Dan believes that the team can’t waste opportunities to win and Jonas thinks Miami is hurting Tua’s development. Former NFL Offensive Lineman Geoff Schwartz discusses why we need more offensive linemen in the booth and which teams have the best and worst offensive lines in the league.
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up in ninety minutes or so. Keeping our eye, I'm
that college football tilt that David Gascott mentioned that it
could play a big part to the college football playoff
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with Notre Dame in North Carolina going on. Also looking
ahead to a week twelve in the National Football League
that will have games on Sunday, Monday, and now on Tuesday.
As yes, the Steelers Ravens games tendant to really scheduled
for Pittsburgh on that day. But Jonas we focus on
what's happening with then no intent team, No, not the Jets,
but the team that the Jets are are playing in
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the Miami Dolphins into a tongue Aboloa going to be
listed a questionable for that game against New York because
of his thumb injury. Well, I mean clearly that you
know this isn't that big of a deal. I mean,
they benched him last week, so I mean, what's what's
the problem. I mean, you wanted Ryan Fitzpatrick, right, he
gave you a better chance to win. So I don't
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understand this shouldn't be that big of a deal. You know,
this is this is something that you know, I think
in this day and age, it's one or the other.
Like you cannot sit on the fence for anything. You
have to either be this and if you're not this,
then you're that. Well you can't sit on the fence.
It's just other shows, you know. Yeah, that's the takes
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of I don't know what's gonna happen coming up next, No,
the I don't know what's gonna happen with the Miami Dolphins,
but I have I have I actually have no problem
with them adjusting on the fly now how they've gone
about it, and when when you were talking with John
Middlecoff about the situation when we had John on the
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former NFL scout last hour, Like I it is, it
is a changing landscape in the National Football League. And
if there's one thing that I have learned as a
fan of of many teams in many different sports Jonas
is you have to win it when you're there. And
even though you've got to uh and you've got to
figure out a way to uh set your quarterback position
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for the future, they're in it right now and you
can't waste those opportunities. So for Miami, because of the
crazy year, because of the altered schedule, I actually don't
mind this bit of musical chairs that they played last
week in Denver in the loss with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and
for what's ahead, because I do think it's important for
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that team to if they can make the playoffs, it
gives them an opportunity to set their their future. Not well,
let's decide on two and then if he's not our guy,
then we'll end up using a guy or will end
up drafting someone else. Like to me, I am all
for them moving or having a moving target just for
the simple fact that they are in it right now.
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I'm not. I think it's I'm completely against the decision.
I thought last week it was puzzling at the time.
It doesn't really make much sense. Why why doesn't it
make sense? Okay, why would you pull him from that
game when you already made the decision to go to
him earlier in the season because you felt like he
gave you the better chance to win, but in this
game he didn't. Like This is a young guy and
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a young quarterback. He's got to be able to go
through that stuff and learn. The best way that you
learn is by actually going through it. You know, coming
up in radio, any people could tell you whatever they
wanted about, well, this is how you do this, and
this is how you do that, But it wasn't until
you actually got your hands on it before it really
made sense and you had to go through that stuff too.
And now has no experience to draw from that game.
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All he knows is if it gets bad off, I'm
gonna get pulled. I just I think that's a terrible
approach that Brian Flores took. I don't I don't understand it.
But this team is in the like they're six and
four right now, and I don't think that that's where
they thought that they would be at the start of
the season. And when you also have when when when
TWA got when Tuah got the starting job, it was
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a shock to everyone, including Ryan Fitzpatrick, right, because he
did not expect that to happen, But the Dolphins also
didn't expect thereby to come when it actually happened. In
the NFL schedule, it was only changed because of the
multiple pieces that had to move because of the Titan
Steelers game, and then this game was moved, and all
of a sudden, then this team had to buy like
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those were the things that were that were moving parts.
And then in the midst of all that, the real
all three straight wins. And now you find yourself in
the play in the playoff contention in a season that
we didn't know what the extra playoff, how many teams
would be there. I'm I understand that you know two
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as a player, but you can't be so fragile as
a player that you're worried about where his mindset is.
Is your team is trying to win the playoffs, how
do you tell the other fifty two guys that, all right,
we ended up making this move back the Fits, or
we didn't make the move to Fits because we didn't
want to hurt to his feelings. Like that's why I
don't I don't know how that would go over in
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an NFL locker room and if that's it with Ta,
then you don't have it with Ta. I just don't.
I just to to the whole point for me is
if you want this guy. And first of all, the
idea that the Miami Dolphins are a legitimate contender for
a Super Bowl, I think it's crazy. They're They're not
even I get that they've won a few games in
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a row. They're not even in the same league as
a team like Pittsburgh or Kansas City. I don't even
think it's close. But the decision to go to Tuah
when you did signal to me, hey, we feel like
this adds a different dynamic to our team, and we're
going to make the move now out and then he
gets in a little bit of trouble and you pull him.
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I just I don't know who learns from that. If
Brian Flores, in his third or fourth game as an
NFL head coach, was struggling and all of a sudden,
ownership said all right, offensive coordinator, you take over for
this game. Brian. You'll get it next week. I mean
we're looking him. Go hold on a second, this is
the guy you chose. You turned to him. Some of
this stuff is going to happen, and I don't care
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how good the quarterback is. Every quarterback has found themselves
in this spot, and I just think you learn more
from going through it than you do standing on the
sidelines being in a way punished for it. Now. One
of the theories that was thrown out there, and this
is I'm just saying this is a theory. There's been
a couple. Well, maybe he was more injured than what
they thought. The other one was to have made a
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comment earlier in the week of Yeah, you know, I
didn't expect it to be this easy. You know, I
didn't expect it to be to be this this easy.
And not saying that that it's completely easy, but you know,
I thought it would be a little harder. Maybe Brian
Flores was sending a message. And if he's sending that message,
I get it, Like I'm on board with that. But
if this is just a game by game situation and
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you didn't like him in that spot and you pull
him this early into his career, I'm not a fan
at all. See that this is People will compare to
Ah to Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow, and I think
that they're completely different situations. For a lot of reasons.
Number one, when you just look at the offensive firepower
with the Chargers with the Bengals, and I know people's
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the Bengals have guys on offense. They may not have
at the skill positions, they may not have anything else
on that team, but they do have guys at those positions.
Those are also to win three win football teams. Where now,
and you know, Joe Burrow unfortunately can because he's done
for the season, But you can throw the football all
around the lot as much as you want, because who cares.
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You're just trying to You're trying to get some of
that rust off where I think that the Dolphins do
have something to play for, and I just don't think
where the Dolphins are as an organization if there are
enough questions about two in the first place, that they
need to handle him with kid gloves and sacrifice a
possible chance. And yeah, you're right, they're not gonna compete
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with the Chiefs, they're not gonna compete with the Steelers.
But to try to make it to the playoffs, to
try to have that opportunity to do so, I think
is what has drawn them in And to me, that's
worth it than trying to figure out and put all
these caveats in to make sure that too has the
ideal situation, because honestly, the ideal situation is not in
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a kid coming off of hip surgery with no preseason,
no real training camp, and now is handed over the
starting job. That is not ideal. So I just look
at the Dolphins as a team of things changed to
the last couple of weeks. They became a team of
all right, let's look at one. We've got all these
draft picks. We're gonna set it up to Holy smokes,
the rest of the conference, isn't that good. We're actually
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in the thickest things here. We got another game against
the Jets coming up. Let's let's try to make a
pull for it or a push for it. And that's
where I just I can't fault them for trying to
do it, especially for a team that's had, you know,
so little success over the past few years. I just
don't know any walk of life or business where that
would work, where that would be a benefit. I think
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that I think to a is a worse quarterback now
because of the benching than he would have been had
he continued on with that game and they got slaughtered
because at least he's got something that he can draw from. Okay,
you know, the game wasn't good, but I learned something
from it. He didn't learn anything. All he learned was,
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hey man, there's a quick cook here. If you make
a couple of bad plays, or if you make a
bad read here Brian Fitzpatrick standing on the sideline. I
just don't know how that helps him. I really don't.
I don't know in what walk of life that would
help him. And if it's about well, we were just
trying to win a game there, Okay, I understand. So
it's not like two is trying to lose the game.
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But at least if you can, if you can draw
some sort of a win from that game, it's your
quarterback got better because he went through the experience and
now he didn't get any of that. So to me,
it's almost a double loss from Miami and that in
that regard, I just think if if two is that fragile,
that he's not your guy. Yeah, I mean, but I don't.
I don't think it's about being fragile. I just think
it's about understanding there's going to be growing pains in
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anything and so if you struggle and all of a
sudden you get pulled from a game. Now you're looking around, going, well,
is this how it's done? I just I don't know
how that that makes him fragile. I just think that
would be concerned for me. I would look at it
and go, what are we doing here? Who do you
think is the better quarterback? Between Fitzpatrick and to a
right now, right now, Ryan Festpatrick. Yeah, and I would
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agree with that. And and that's what I think that
a lot of people felt, even when they made the
switch at the time of week seven. Again, there by
wasn't supposed to be like we ten Oral Levin until
all of the schedule changes, which then at the time
was then you knew that the the edict from the
front office was during the bye week two was gonna
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take over the starting job. Like that's what it was.
That was what it was from week one, and that's
why Fitzpatrick was so surprised when he found out about it.
But also from week one, you just looked at your
team you thought, all right, we're probably not gonna be
in it. Patriots and Bills battling for the division. You've
got these other teams will just plan ahead, and I
just I just can't fault them for going with the
guy when they're in the thick of the playoffs right now.
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It's to me that is that is actually more important
to me than weighing to find out if two A
is the guy or two isn't the guy. And I
would also add this, you know, John Milllcoff brought up
the name of Baker Mayfield. This isn't like seven or
eight years ago where there are no quarterbacks that are available.
It's it's I don't think it is. I think that
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there are a lot of teams that have questions about
whether their guy is a quarterback. Look at look at
how much Nick Foles has moved in the last three
years and he won a Super Bowl, right, I mean,
just the point being of you having to have to
have a quarterback in place, I don't think that's the
NFL anymore. We don't know if Sam Donald's going to
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be back with the Jets. We don't know if Baker
Mayfield's gonna have his option picked up, you know by Cleveland,
Like there's there's all of these questions going around. And
the point is is I think that there's quarterbacks out there.
So even if T isn't the guy, it's not like
you need to find out now so you can draft
someone else. You can, you can navigate and make your
decision however you want it. But it's not like if
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you don't have to a workout or draft a quarterback
next year, that you're done for the next fifteen years.
So that's why I say, like, it's okay right now
to go for it, because you know what if if
two it is or isn't the guy, it's not like
you're gonna be set back ten years like maybe you
you know, heck, what was it like five or six
years ago we were wondering if Ryan Fitzpatrick was the
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gem of free agency? Right. I don't think that's the
NFL nowadays. And that's why I think the Dolphins can
afford to kind of play a bit of a musical
chairs and not necessarily commit the to just win. Right now.
They're in they're in the hunt. We'll let the record
show for our friends listening in Tuscaloosa and UH in
the Great Land of Hawaii. Dan Buyer hates to UH
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hates he wants him out of the league. UH, and
he wants him cut immediately, just a stunning development here
that that is not that is that is not the case.
I just think that Ryan fits what the Dolphins are
doing right there. It is, Yeah, there it is. I
would say, you know, Fitzpatrick, who's more of all one
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A and Tungueo lois more of a. I don't know
that was actually that one, that one that was the
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in the NFL this weekend from our insider and expert.
But it's not the team you're thinking of. We'll get
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
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John Romins will be in the hot seat coming up
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us the latest. But before that, let's check in with
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a friend of the program, eight year NFL vets Uh
heck you can you hear him on OutKick the coverage,
filling in for Clay Travis. Jeff Schwartz joins us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Happy Thanksgiving, Jeff, How are you?
I am good. I hope you guys have a good Thanksgiving. Okay,
let's let's let's get to the bottom of this. You
set this out on Twitter a week or two ago,
maybe a couple of weeks ago. Any any movement on
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broadcasting teams getting lineman in the booth TwixT playing what's
going on in offensive and defensive lines? Yeah, do you
have a connection with with with with any network again?
Hired for that, John. I'll tell you what better than
a kicking expert. I'll say that much. It's better than
having a kicking expert. Yeah, a kicking expert. And look
j feeling about the job. I do not. I do
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not hate his his hustle. But you know when he's like,
well that kick went left because it was windy. I
kind of feel why can do that? Right? I kind
of feel like that's not something that you really need
to have it expert to tell you what's happening. What
is it? What is the biggest mistake that you hear
and and maybe and not even for broadcast Jeff, but
from from crappy here on Twitter? What do people just
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not get about offensive lines in the national football he
can even in college football? Um, A couple of things
that come to mind. One is obviously holy right, no
one's any of that's that's hard to explain, right because
it's objective, and I mean there's rules, right, it's there's
holding rules and just a rule book, but you know
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every referee differently and whatnot. But it's more about past
protection and assignments. Right. Everyone thinks that we have to
block everyone that that blitzes, or that you know, the
running backs not involved quarterback, right, the quarterback is not
being the right front or he's not saying that parking
not helping us out. So I think it's more that,
like I think an office line person would be helpful
and not really saying like, oh, the referee got it wrong,
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because no telecasts wants a guy coming on just continually
saying that they're officially is not good, but more just
to help about protections. And a lot of times I'm
watching games and I'm like, you blamed the offensive line,
but here's why it's the running backs fall. Here's why
the quarterback didn't. You didn't do his job here, and
so um, I think it'd be a fun addition to
you know, good two times the game, maybe you know,
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hop in and kind of explain what's happening in front, Jeff.
When you see a quarterback scramble and instead of throwing
the ball out of bounds, he runs out of bounds
world yard, one yard behind the line of scrimmage and
it goes to the sack against you, guys, how does
that make you feel? And booked did that like five
minutes ago for Notre Dame And I got so angry
like that, And this is why I look, this is
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why I think it's important to have people like like
pro Football focus. It kind of help Outlook. Are their
grades perfect, No, they're not perfect, but but they at
least watched the games and they attribute the sacks to
the right person, right, so you know the total facts.
You you know, you might have you know, twenty facks
giving up this season, but they might give you know,
two to the running back, once to the tight ends,
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three of the quarterback. And so it allows a better
picture of what's happening because if you just go to
like stats, Inc. And you look up sacks, well, it's
just a total stacks. And again they're not all on
the offensive line. We have rules and assignments. If people
don't think that we have those, which is really surprising
to me. But um again, I just would add something
to the broadcast. If you're gonna have a kicking expert,
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if you're gonna have you know, Tony Romore breaking down
you know, the route concepts and whatnot. I just think
that adding a way to make football fans smarter and
a quick, a quick way, right. And I'm not gonna
spend eight minutes on tell us, lad, but you know
there's times where I think it'd be appropriate to have
someone doing that. Jeff Schwartz joining us here on the
Doug Otlib Show on Fox Sports Radio eight year NFL
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and also the host of the Jeff Schwartz is Smarter
than You podcast. Jonas and I were just talking about
the situation in Miami. If you're Brian Flores, who is
your quarterback against the Jets and the rest of the season.
This is really interesting because you know, it's so the
team doesn't have to win this year, right if you
look at if you look at their draft picks they
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have next season, this upcome draft. As you say, like
they're set for a long time, right, they have their
quarterback now that and you can add pieces, you know,
to to the puzzle, add pieces to the pie um.
It's really easy just to continue to build. And so
you look at you look at this specific season, right,
and so Two came in and the first three games
they warn't weren't because of him. Everyone got so excited
for it for that. But they scored essentially five times
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on offense, on defense, special teams his first three games.
That's not normal, right, I mean team might score once
or twice a year on defense and this is five
times in three games, and uh, and so it was
never sustainable. So now they're playing the Broncos and the
front office is probably like, just keep two in the game.
Why not, Like he's it's a year, it's a it's
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a year for growth. If he's not playing well, he
play his way through it. But Brian Fords as a coach,
and coaches trying to win on Sundays. They want to
win games. They don't care about the future. They're trying
to win now. And he thought Fits could help him
in that game come back and win the game. And
I agree with him to It wasn't playing terribly well.
It wasn't bad, but Ryan Fitzpatrick has known from making
those comebacks and he almost almost worked right. He drove
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him down into the red zone before I threw a
pick to tie the game. And so I think that
that the starters too are moving forward. Um, but I
wouldn't be surprised if that happened again, that he's not
playing well and just try to put fits into win
to win football games. He forth was to make the playoffs.
It's not worried about next year. Jeff Schwartz joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Jeff, the situation between Baltimore
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and Pittsburgh. Um, you feel like somebody's getting the shaft
in this situation. The fact that the game has now
been moved to Tuesday. The hope is it's going to
be played on Tuesday. And if you were the NFL
and it was your choice. How would you handle this situation? Yeah,
I mean the Stewards would definitely came the short end here, right.
I mean they had a situation where they you know,
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they had their bye week got moved early season, so
instead of having the week off of practice early the
team they were practicing that week, right because they thought
they were gonna play, and then their game got canceled
and they got a weekend off and they went back
to practice on Monday, got ready for their next opponent.
Um and this week they had a Thursday game and
would have had Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and reports are tom
I was given them Monday Tuesday off, had a five
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day break. That would be great, right, That would be
great for their older team, for Big Ben if everyone
just to rest down the stretch. Now they don't get that,
and they have to play a short week to follow
me was right. They have to play Tuesday and then
they have to play Sunday. So this is twice now
they've had to move games for Baltimore. And I get
where the NFL is trying to get the game in right,
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because obviously you want to play the games on time.
You don't want to have a week a team for
just one single game, which would be odd. And this
is a vision of the game. It's important for for
the playoffs seating in the North. It's easy to say
that the Ravens have to forfeit. I get that, um,
but the players don't get paid this year if they
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missed the game, and it's is unprecedented, right, Our contracts
do not say do we get paid per game? Right?
We just get it's it's baked in the contract. Their
sixteen games. It's never been a situation we have that
season games. We don't get paid, you know, per se
for the game itself. And for Pittsburgh to practice for
two weeks and not get paid for any of it
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would be pretty bad feeling. And you know what if
you're a Ravens player and you didn't get COVID, right,
you weren't the one out in public, or you weren't
the one that brought in the facility, and maybe it
was an accident that it came into facility, But how
would you feel if you practice two and didn't didn't
get paid because someone else made a mistake. And so
I get that's eithery're playing the game, right is I
think they just want everyone to get their money and
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get paid and the players at the end, we'll play
whenever they tell them they're going to play. Jeff Schwartz
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the Doug
Gottlib Show. He's Jonas Stocks. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in
for Doug. Of the seven win teams in the NFC, Rams, Packers, Seahawks,
and Buccaneers, who do you have most confidence in in
doing damage once the playoffs come around? Rams, Packers, Seahawks,
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Bucks Um. Well, Look, I think that if if the
defensive is for Seattle and Green Day can improve, and
then between the Chief's defense last year improved draftedly over
the last month of the the season into the playoffs. If either,
if either one of those defenses can improve, that I
would I'd go to those guys. I go to Aaron
Rodgers and Russell Wilson first. I think Jared Goff is
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still limited in what he can do if they get
behind in games that only trust him to come back.
And here's the thing about Tampa is they're kind of
in the same boat as is my opinion is Green
Bay and Seattle, but they need their whole team to
playoff to what they can do right there right now,
just so disjointed on offense that it's really it's it's
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difficult to see them putting it all together. But if
they did, I think they'd be the favorite in the NFC.
But we haven't seen him doing. This is not the
best weekend for them to, you know, for for for
them to kind of come together. Maybe great if they
would be a much better game, but the Chiefs present
a lot of issues. You know, you have to keep
up points wise, Um, and it's hard to do that, Jeff.
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The last one for me from an expert side, because
you played offensive line in the NFL for a long time.
Best and worst offensive line in the league belongs to who? Well,
the Bengals is the worst. I don't want to even
a question. Um, and they got they got poor poor
Burrow killed out there. Um. The best offensive line, um,
the Saints is it's I am a big fan of
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doing tears with offensive lines that think it's really hard
to do best. The Saints are really good. The culture good.
The Bucks actually, I have really offensive line. I know
sometimes doesn't that way. Their offense is so disjointed, but yeah,
I mean Colts cults are good. Uh, Saints Bucks. Trying
to other officer on the NFL that are playing well.
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I'm sure I missed one of people will yell at me, um,
that's probably yeah, that's about right. I think those three
of the putting the top tier. But it's and And
the reason I asked the question is because it's never well,
they've got a really good offensive line, but they're a
bad team. Like it just feels like like every team
that is looking at making a playoff run seems like
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they have some at least a quality enough offensive line
to to be a good football team. It it never
goes in reverse to where, well, you know, the offensive
line is the strength of the team. Other than that
they're just crap. It just feels like we know this,
yet for whatever reason, it still feels like organizations go
in different directions. Yeah, but it's also coaching, you know, Like,
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for example, take the Bengals, they drafted a first round center,
a first around left tackle, and they've dropped other pieces
as well, brought in guys and frequency, and they're just
not coach very well. Like, they're not coached up very well.
So it's not just about bringing in offensive linements also
being able to coach them, teach them, integrate your scheme
around what they do. You know, the Rams, for example,
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do a great job of running an offense that six
their schemes so to the forty niners. Um. And I
think a lot of coaches just don't do that quite yet.
Um they're stubborn about it. And if you want to
begin in the NFL, you have to match up. You know,
you should draft lineman and pick them up that fix
your scheme. Anyways, I think that that's not done enough.
I don't think people, uh, you know, I'm a great
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example for example, when I went to the Giants, we
were switching to a new offense with Ben mcado. I
am not a fit for that offense at all. I'm
a big, giant guard who wants to run, block and
in kind of firm pass protech and get after things
and being a three point stance and I'm in an
offense and a two point stance it's passed all the
time and running from shotgun that doesn't really run the
ball physically. Like I was not made for that offense,
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but they took me anyways. And I mean just so,
like there's those things are important to look at when
valuing that position. I feel like that position still is.
It's not quite valued or really not looked at the
same way as as you know other positions. He's Jeff Schwartz.
That's where you can find him on Twitter. You can
also hear him in Tom's feeling in for Clay Travis
here on Fox Sports Radio. And I'll kick the coverage.
(26:23):
Eight year NFL VET taking time for us on this Friday.
Enjoy whatever they're gonna call Oregon Oregon State. Now we'll
just call the Civil War. Enjoy it. I'm gonna call I.
By the way, we have named it um the game
formally called the Civil War. Okay, very good. I can
say it. I can. It's a Pactuel radio employee. I
can talk about the game that way. Go to the
(26:43):
Prince or appreciate it man with oculator alright to here, guys,
see Jeff Dan Buyer, Jonas Knox in for Doug Gottlieb
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Did I ever tell you this story about Gene decker Off? No? Not, Okay,
we had him on locally in Charleston, South Carolina years ago,
and Gene decker Off and I'm almost post legend he
ended the call because he was getting a couch delivered.
(27:47):
And I swear to god he ended the call live
on the air, and we looked at each other. I'm like,
did that just happen like that? Now, it's not as
bad as Burt Sugar, the former boxing analyst. I don't
know if you know ten count during an update dan
Bert Sugar, we had him on and he actually, while
on the air, took a leak like I'm not even kidding. Yeah,
(28:12):
just didn't even didn't even think that. You know, I'm
doing a radio interview right now. I probably should I
probably shouldn't wait, And I don't even know if he
washed his hands but yeah, there's that local radio. Get
Jonas on Twitter at the Jonas Knox. I met Dan
Buyer on Fox. John Ramos you can find him on
Twitter at j. S. Ramos zero six. You can also
find him in the hot seat right now as we
(28:34):
play all Ball with John Ramos. You know Doug has
got the podcast on the Herd podcast network called all Ball.
But this is all Ball with John Ramos. John, are
you ready to play today? I am always preparing and
ready to go at any time. All right, John, you
have to decipher the games that we tell you if
it's a college football game, a college basketball game, or
(29:00):
no ball game this weekend. So we're gonna give you
a bunch of different schools, a bunch of different matchups.
You gotta tell us if it's college football, college basketball,
or if it's no ball. Ready for that? All right, John?
We'll start out. What about number seventeen Houston against Boise State?
Is that football, basketball or no ball? I would say,
(29:22):
that's uh football, Oh John, that's basketball. It's actually going
on right now. Houston leads byt points midway through the
second half. Down John, All right? John. By the way,
John went uh four of eight in heel or no heel?
Yesterday with Bucky Brooks and hell, did you guys do
(29:42):
Brooks and done? Yes? Of course we did. How did
you know? All right? So here we go, John, football,
basketball or no ball? Lamar verse two lane? No ball?
That's incorrect, Job, that's basketball. Come on, John, step it up?
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All right, John? What about bu at l o l
He knows your cadence. He starts laughing before you get
even that is correct? Well don, John? All right, John?
You ready Martin Tech Verse Shapiro State. I'm gonna say,
(30:29):
no ball. That's correct, all right, John's got too. How
about Central Michigan against Eastern Michigan. That sounds like basketball
It might, but it's actually foot Yes, Yes, that's a
football game that's gonna be going on this weekend. Alright, Sorry, John,
You're two of five so far, Johnny ready, Stanford verse
(30:53):
Col's tall basketball or no ball? I'd say it's football, correct,
all right? John? Three of six? That the Bell game
or something like that? Yeah, Actually say by the Bell
games screech screeches doing the honor. The band is on
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the field. Grand Canyon University against Mount Rushmore College. I'm
gonna say no ball. That is correct. There is Grand Canyon.
See the commercials, by the way, those commercials are like
the college basketball games. Like it's like the Cameron Craziest
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Times ten. Remember those Grand Canyon University commercials. It's like,
this is the most amazing college basketball game ever. Who
are they playing? Laverne Well surely watched it. Shout out
to the super tense. By the way, all right, here
we go, John football basketball or no ball? George Mason
(31:56):
versus George Rice stir. What's so funny, John? That's no ball?
Good John? All right, John? Five of eight back to back.
What about George Washington against George Jefferson. That's no ball.
Now you're moving on up, John, moving on up? Six
(32:19):
of nine? Right now? All right, Johnny football basketball, no ball?
Eastern Kentucky vers Charleston Southern. That's that's basketball. Oh he's
on fire. Good job. Yes. What about f DU against
Rutgeres no ball? No, that is it's fairly Dickinson University.
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I don't know where your mind is kidding, man, I
thought it was alright, Johnny? Ready? Yeah, I want to
win a second. I don't want to know what you
thought that he was. That's what I want to know.
I don't move on, all right, Johnny Lamar versus jack
(33:13):
Johnny Lamar versus Jackson, what's so funny? John Peyton versus Manning.
I'll say that's no ball, alright. Twelve. Got a couple
more about Wisconsin against you w Madison. I'm gonna say
it's basketball. They're the same school, the Wisconsin Badgers against
(33:38):
the w Madison Badgers. I'd be like USC versus Southern
Cal Yes, exactly, exactly, So that's no ball, all right, Johnny,
George Mason verse Belmont, George Mason Belmont, I would say basketball. God,
(34:00):
he's on fire, all right, you can't even can't contain him? No,
al right, I got one more, one more Jonas? Yeah, okay, alright,
you c F versus usf CF basketball. It's football Central
Florida against South Florida, right, Johnny? Last one? Yes? Football
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basketball or no ball? North Carolina A and T versus
down with opp I don't give all right, Ramos, who
got ten out of sixteen correct in All Ball? Download
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Oh there it is, uh the Great Gene decker Off.
(35:26):
He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer. We are in for
Doug Gottleib today on The Doug Gottleib Show. But we're
gonna do what Doug usually does at this time in
a segment we like to call Now all right, Jonas,
We're gonna get right to its. Skip Bayliss on Undisputed
earlier today on Fox Sports One, weighing in on the
game of the week in the National Football League. Week
(35:47):
twelve showed own between the Chiefs and Buccaneers. My heart
is saying Brady, Brady, Brady, my head is screaming back
at my heart. You better be careful here, because can
he score forty plus? Because I think he's gonna have
to score forty to win this game unless you tell
me that Todd Bowles defense has enough pride that it's
(36:08):
one of those days where they dredge up whatever is
left with their pride and their passion and their guts
and they just say that's enough of this, not in
our house this time. Watch this if they rise up
and have one of those emotional, just over the top,
all out efforts against Mahomes where they make every play
(36:28):
every moment, they don't make one mistake, they don't give
up any bomb plays, and they hang in there. Tampa
could win this game thirty eight to thirty five. At best,
they will hold them to thirty five. But my head
is saying, no, it's gonna be forty two to thirty
eight because Mahomes is going to get that one more
touchdown to go forty two to thirty eight. But in
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the end, it's not going to be Brady's fault that
they lose. This is going to be a shootout old
versus young, And yet I don't know that that Brady's
defense will be much, if any better than I'm I'm
just gonna say this, the Bucketeers are seven and four.
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We talked about them like they're two and nine, but
they are. Although I just that game last week was
was such a bad loss. Just from the stance of
I think I've pretty much given up on the fact
that they're going to get a first round by which
which has always been Brady's, you know, one of the
(37:32):
added benefits from playing in New England. I don't think
he ever reached the Super Bowl without that first round
by other than the first one, if I'm not mistaken,
Like I can't think of any time. Yeah, they were
either the one or the two seeds, right, And so my, my,
my old thing is what do we expect for that
when they get to I clearly they have the talent.
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When their offenses humming and they're running the ball and
they and they commit to the run, they're completely different offense.
It just doesn't it feel like though, that they get
so pass happy and it's not always that no situation
dictates it. I mean, last week, that game was never
out of reach, that they had to throw and run
the ball as few at times as they did it.
It just it feels odd. There's something there that's not
(38:14):
fitting and not meshing, and I can't figure it out.
I can't put my finger. I don't I don't think
that it's I think it's a matchup nightmare for the
Buccaneers because they are decent against the run, and Kansas
City has shown last week they actually committed to it,
because I think they will down the line. But realistically,
we've also seen Kansas City survive without running the football.
We have never seen Tampa Bay survive without running the football,
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and that's a big difference. I just I think it's
a matchup nightmare for Tampa Bay in this situation. Also,
Brady doesn't have that James White, I mean, Ronald Jones
and Leonard four Nette are almost liabilities catching the ball
out of the backfield, like that's an issue for them.
And I don't think Tampa is willing to run the
ball and keep it for forty minutes away from Kansas City,
which is a way that I think you would need
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and John Ramos is
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up in ninety minutes or so. Keeping our eye, I'm
that college football tilt that David Gascott mentioned that it
could play a big part to the college football playoff
(00:41):
with Notre Dame in North Carolina going on. Also looking
ahead to a week twelve in the National Football League
that will have games on Sunday, Monday, and now on Tuesday.
As yes, the Steelers Ravens games tendant to really scheduled
for Pittsburgh on that day. But Jonas we focus on
what's happening with then no intent team, No, not the Jets,
but the team that the Jets are are playing in
(01:03):
the Miami Dolphins into a tongue Aboloa going to be
listed a questionable for that game against New York because
of his thumb injury. Well, I mean clearly that you
know this isn't that big of a deal. I mean,
they benched him last week, so I mean, what's what's
the problem. I mean, you wanted Ryan Fitzpatrick, right, he
gave you a better chance to win. So I don't
(01:24):
understand this shouldn't be that big of a deal. You know,
this is this is something that you know, I think
in this day and age, it's one or the other.
Like you cannot sit on the fence for anything. You
have to either be this and if you're not this,
then you're that. Well you can't sit on the fence.
It's just other shows, you know. Yeah, that's the takes
(01:45):
of I don't know what's gonna happen coming up next, No,
the I don't know what's gonna happen with the Miami Dolphins,
but I have I have I actually have no problem
with them adjusting on the fly now how they've gone
about it, and when when you were talking with John
Middlecoff about the situation when we had John on the
(02:07):
former NFL scout last hour, Like I it is, it
is a changing landscape in the National Football League. And
if there's one thing that I have learned as a
fan of of many teams in many different sports Jonas
is you have to win it when you're there. And
even though you've got to uh and you've got to
figure out a way to uh set your quarterback position
(02:31):
for the future, they're in it right now and you
can't waste those opportunities. So for Miami, because of the
crazy year, because of the altered schedule, I actually don't
mind this bit of musical chairs that they played last
week in Denver in the loss with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and
for what's ahead, because I do think it's important for
(02:52):
that team to if they can make the playoffs, it
gives them an opportunity to set their their future. Not well,
let's decide on two and then if he's not our guy,
then we'll end up using a guy or will end
up drafting someone else. Like to me, I am all
for them moving or having a moving target just for
the simple fact that they are in it right now.
(03:13):
I'm not. I think it's I'm completely against the decision.
I thought last week it was puzzling at the time.
It doesn't really make much sense. Why why doesn't it
make sense? Okay, why would you pull him from that
game when you already made the decision to go to
him earlier in the season because you felt like he
gave you the better chance to win, but in this
game he didn't. Like This is a young guy and
(03:34):
a young quarterback. He's got to be able to go
through that stuff and learn. The best way that you
learn is by actually going through it. You know, coming
up in radio, any people could tell you whatever they
wanted about, well, this is how you do this, and
this is how you do that, But it wasn't until
you actually got your hands on it before it really
made sense and you had to go through that stuff too.
And now has no experience to draw from that game.
(03:57):
All he knows is if it gets bad off, I'm
gonna get pulled. I just I think that's a terrible
approach that Brian Flores took. I don't I don't understand it.
But this team is in the like they're six and
four right now, and I don't think that that's where
they thought that they would be at the start of
the season. And when you also have when when when
TWA got when Tuah got the starting job, it was
(04:18):
a shock to everyone, including Ryan Fitzpatrick, right, because he
did not expect that to happen, But the Dolphins also
didn't expect thereby to come when it actually happened. In
the NFL schedule, it was only changed because of the
multiple pieces that had to move because of the Titan
Steelers game, and then this game was moved, and all
of a sudden, then this team had to buy like
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those were the things that were that were moving parts.
And then in the midst of all that, the real
all three straight wins. And now you find yourself in
the play in the playoff contention in a season that
we didn't know what the extra playoff, how many teams
would be there. I'm I understand that you know two
(04:59):
as a player, but you can't be so fragile as
a player that you're worried about where his mindset is.
Is your team is trying to win the playoffs, how
do you tell the other fifty two guys that, all right,
we ended up making this move back the Fits, or
we didn't make the move to Fits because we didn't
want to hurt to his feelings. Like that's why I
don't I don't know how that would go over in
(05:20):
an NFL locker room and if that's it with Ta,
then you don't have it with Ta. I just don't.
I just to to the whole point for me is
if you want this guy. And first of all, the
idea that the Miami Dolphins are a legitimate contender for
a Super Bowl, I think it's crazy. They're They're not
even I get that they've won a few games in
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a row. They're not even in the same league as
a team like Pittsburgh or Kansas City. I don't even
think it's close. But the decision to go to Tuah
when you did signal to me, hey, we feel like
this adds a different dynamic to our team, and we're
going to make the move now out and then he
gets in a little bit of trouble and you pull him.
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I just I don't know who learns from that. If
Brian Flores, in his third or fourth game as an
NFL head coach, was struggling and all of a sudden,
ownership said all right, offensive coordinator, you take over for
this game. Brian. You'll get it next week. I mean
we're looking him. Go hold on a second, this is
the guy you chose. You turned to him. Some of
this stuff is going to happen, and I don't care
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how good the quarterback is. Every quarterback has found themselves
in this spot, and I just think you learn more
from going through it than you do standing on the
sidelines being in a way punished for it. Now. One
of the theories that was thrown out there, and this
is I'm just saying this is a theory. There's been
a couple. Well, maybe he was more injured than what
they thought. The other one was to have made a
(06:44):
comment earlier in the week of Yeah, you know, I
didn't expect it to be this easy. You know, I
didn't expect it to be to be this this easy.
And not saying that that it's completely easy, but you know,
I thought it would be a little harder. Maybe Brian
Flores was sending a message. And if he's sending that message,
I get it, Like I'm on board with that. But
if this is just a game by game situation and
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you didn't like him in that spot and you pull
him this early into his career, I'm not a fan
at all. See that this is People will compare to
Ah to Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow, and I think
that they're completely different situations. For a lot of reasons.
Number one, when you just look at the offensive firepower
with the Chargers with the Bengals, and I know people's
(07:30):
the Bengals have guys on offense. They may not have
at the skill positions, they may not have anything else
on that team, but they do have guys at those positions.
Those are also to win three win football teams. Where now,
and you know, Joe Burrow unfortunately can because he's done
for the season, But you can throw the football all
around the lot as much as you want, because who cares.
(07:52):
You're just trying to You're trying to get some of
that rust off where I think that the Dolphins do
have something to play for, and I just don't think
where the Dolphins are as an organization if there are
enough questions about two in the first place, that they
need to handle him with kid gloves and sacrifice a
possible chance. And yeah, you're right, they're not gonna compete
(08:13):
with the Chiefs, they're not gonna compete with the Steelers.
But to try to make it to the playoffs, to
try to have that opportunity to do so, I think
is what has drawn them in And to me, that's
worth it than trying to figure out and put all
these caveats in to make sure that too has the
ideal situation, because honestly, the ideal situation is not in
(08:34):
a kid coming off of hip surgery with no preseason,
no real training camp, and now is handed over the
starting job. That is not ideal. So I just look
at the Dolphins as a team of things changed to
the last couple of weeks. They became a team of
all right, let's look at one. We've got all these
draft picks. We're gonna set it up to Holy smokes,
the rest of the conference, isn't that good. We're actually
(08:55):
in the thickest things here. We got another game against
the Jets coming up. Let's let's try to make a
pull for it or a push for it. And that's
where I just I can't fault them for trying to
do it, especially for a team that's had, you know,
so little success over the past few years. I just
don't know any walk of life or business where that
would work, where that would be a benefit. I think
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that I think to a is a worse quarterback now
because of the benching than he would have been had
he continued on with that game and they got slaughtered
because at least he's got something that he can draw from. Okay,
you know, the game wasn't good, but I learned something
from it. He didn't learn anything. All he learned was,
(09:36):
hey man, there's a quick cook here. If you make
a couple of bad plays, or if you make a
bad read here Brian Fitzpatrick standing on the sideline. I
just don't know how that helps him. I really don't.
I don't know in what walk of life that would
help him. And if it's about well, we were just
trying to win a game there, Okay, I understand. So
it's not like two is trying to lose the game.
(09:56):
But at least if you can, if you can draw
some sort of a win from that game, it's your
quarterback got better because he went through the experience and
now he didn't get any of that. So to me,
it's almost a double loss from Miami and that in
that regard, I just think if if two is that fragile,
that he's not your guy. Yeah, I mean, but I don't.
I don't think it's about being fragile. I just think
it's about understanding there's going to be growing pains in
(10:19):
anything and so if you struggle and all of a
sudden you get pulled from a game. Now you're looking around, going, well,
is this how it's done? I just I don't know
how that that makes him fragile. I just think that
would be concerned for me. I would look at it
and go, what are we doing here? Who do you
think is the better quarterback? Between Fitzpatrick and to a
right now, right now, Ryan Festpatrick. Yeah, and I would
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agree with that. And and that's what I think that
a lot of people felt, even when they made the
switch at the time of week seven. Again, there by
wasn't supposed to be like we ten Oral Levin until
all of the schedule changes, which then at the time
was then you knew that the the edict from the
front office was during the bye week two was gonna
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take over the starting job. Like that's what it was.
That was what it was from week one, and that's
why Fitzpatrick was so surprised when he found out about it.
But also from week one, you just looked at your
team you thought, all right, we're probably not gonna be
in it. Patriots and Bills battling for the division. You've
got these other teams will just plan ahead, and I
just I just can't fault them for going with the
guy when they're in the thick of the playoffs right now.
(11:24):
It's to me that is that is actually more important
to me than weighing to find out if two A
is the guy or two isn't the guy. And I
would also add this, you know, John Milllcoff brought up
the name of Baker Mayfield. This isn't like seven or
eight years ago where there are no quarterbacks that are available.
It's it's I don't think it is. I think that
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there are a lot of teams that have questions about
whether their guy is a quarterback. Look at look at
how much Nick Foles has moved in the last three
years and he won a Super Bowl, right, I mean,
just the point being of you having to have to
have a quarterback in place, I don't think that's the
NFL anymore. We don't know if Sam Donald's going to
(12:06):
be back with the Jets. We don't know if Baker
Mayfield's gonna have his option picked up, you know by Cleveland,
Like there's there's all of these questions going around. And
the point is is I think that there's quarterbacks out there.
So even if T isn't the guy, it's not like
you need to find out now so you can draft
someone else. You can, you can navigate and make your
decision however you want it. But it's not like if
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you don't have to a workout or draft a quarterback
next year, that you're done for the next fifteen years.
So that's why I say, like, it's okay right now
to go for it, because you know what if if
two it is or isn't the guy, it's not like
you're gonna be set back ten years like maybe you
you know, heck, what was it like five or six
years ago we were wondering if Ryan Fitzpatrick was the
(12:48):
gem of free agency? Right. I don't think that's the
NFL nowadays. And that's why I think the Dolphins can
afford to kind of play a bit of a musical
chairs and not necessarily commit the to just win. Right now.
They're in they're in the hunt. We'll let the record
show for our friends listening in Tuscaloosa and UH in
the Great Land of Hawaii. Dan Buyer hates to UH
(13:08):
hates he wants him out of the league. UH, and
he wants him cut immediately, just a stunning development here
that that is not that is that is not the case.
I just think that Ryan fits what the Dolphins are
doing right there. It is, Yeah, there it is. I
would say, you know, Fitzpatrick, who's more of all one
(13:28):
A and Tungueo lois more of a. I don't know
that was actually that one, that one that was the
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(13:50):
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in the NFL this weekend from our insider and expert.
But it's not the team you're thinking of. We'll get
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(14:12):
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
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Jonas Knox on Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb.
John Romins will be in the hot seat coming up
at the bottom of the hour after David Gascon gives
us the latest. But before that, let's check in with
(14:33):
a friend of the program, eight year NFL vets Uh
heck you can you hear him on OutKick the coverage,
filling in for Clay Travis. Jeff Schwartz joins us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Happy Thanksgiving, Jeff, How are you?
I am good. I hope you guys have a good Thanksgiving. Okay,
let's let's let's get to the bottom of this. You
set this out on Twitter a week or two ago,
maybe a couple of weeks ago. Any any movement on
(14:57):
broadcasting teams getting lineman in the booth TwixT playing what's
going on in offensive and defensive lines? Yeah, do you
have a connection with with with with any network again?
Hired for that, John. I'll tell you what better than
a kicking expert. I'll say that much. It's better than
having a kicking expert. Yeah, a kicking expert. And look
j feeling about the job. I do not. I do
(15:19):
not hate his his hustle. But you know when he's like,
well that kick went left because it was windy. I
kind of feel why can do that? Right? I kind
of feel like that's not something that you really need
to have it expert to tell you what's happening. What
is it? What is the biggest mistake that you hear
and and maybe and not even for broadcast Jeff, but
from from crappy here on Twitter? What do people just
(15:42):
not get about offensive lines in the national football he
can even in college football? Um, A couple of things
that come to mind. One is obviously holy right, no
one's any of that's that's hard to explain, right because
it's objective, and I mean there's rules, right, it's there's
holding rules and just a rule book, but you know
(16:02):
every referee differently and whatnot. But it's more about past
protection and assignments. Right. Everyone thinks that we have to
block everyone that that blitzes, or that you know, the
running backs not involved quarterback, right, the quarterback is not
being the right front or he's not saying that parking
not helping us out. So I think it's more that,
like I think an office line person would be helpful
and not really saying like, oh, the referee got it wrong,
(16:23):
because no telecasts wants a guy coming on just continually
saying that they're officially is not good, but more just
to help about protections. And a lot of times I'm
watching games and I'm like, you blamed the offensive line,
but here's why it's the running backs fall. Here's why
the quarterback didn't. You didn't do his job here, and
so um, I think it'd be a fun addition to
you know, good two times the game, maybe you know,
(16:44):
hop in and kind of explain what's happening in front, Jeff.
When you see a quarterback scramble and instead of throwing
the ball out of bounds, he runs out of bounds
world yard, one yard behind the line of scrimmage and
it goes to the sack against you, guys, how does
that make you feel? And booked did that like five
minutes ago for Notre Dame And I got so angry
like that, And this is why I look, this is
(17:07):
why I think it's important to have people like like
pro Football focus. It kind of help Outlook. Are their
grades perfect, No, they're not perfect, but but they at
least watched the games and they attribute the sacks to
the right person, right, so you know the total facts.
You you know, you might have you know, twenty facks
giving up this season, but they might give you know,
two to the running back, once to the tight ends,
(17:27):
three of the quarterback. And so it allows a better
picture of what's happening because if you just go to
like stats, Inc. And you look up sacks, well, it's
just a total stacks. And again they're not all on
the offensive line. We have rules and assignments. If people
don't think that we have those, which is really surprising
to me. But um again, I just would add something
to the broadcast. If you're gonna have a kicking expert,
(17:49):
if you're gonna have you know, Tony Romore breaking down
you know, the route concepts and whatnot. I just think
that adding a way to make football fans smarter and
a quick, a quick way, right. And I'm not gonna
spend eight minutes on tell us, lad, but you know
there's times where I think it'd be appropriate to have
someone doing that. Jeff Schwartz joining us here on the
Doug Otlib Show on Fox Sports Radio eight year NFL
(18:09):
and also the host of the Jeff Schwartz is Smarter
than You podcast. Jonas and I were just talking about
the situation in Miami. If you're Brian Flores, who is
your quarterback against the Jets and the rest of the season.
This is really interesting because you know, it's so the
team doesn't have to win this year, right if you
look at if you look at their draft picks they
(18:32):
have next season, this upcome draft. As you say, like
they're set for a long time, right, they have their
quarterback now that and you can add pieces, you know,
to to the puzzle, add pieces to the pie um.
It's really easy just to continue to build. And so
you look at you look at this specific season, right,
and so Two came in and the first three games
they warn't weren't because of him. Everyone got so excited
for it for that. But they scored essentially five times
(18:55):
on offense, on defense, special teams his first three games.
That's not normal, right, I mean team might score once
or twice a year on defense and this is five
times in three games, and uh, and so it was
never sustainable. So now they're playing the Broncos and the
front office is probably like, just keep two in the game.
Why not, Like he's it's a year, it's a it's
(19:15):
a year for growth. If he's not playing well, he
play his way through it. But Brian Fords as a coach,
and coaches trying to win on Sundays. They want to
win games. They don't care about the future. They're trying
to win now. And he thought Fits could help him
in that game come back and win the game. And
I agree with him to It wasn't playing terribly well.
It wasn't bad, but Ryan Fitzpatrick has known from making
those comebacks and he almost almost worked right. He drove
(19:36):
him down into the red zone before I threw a
pick to tie the game. And so I think that
that the starters too are moving forward. Um, but I
wouldn't be surprised if that happened again, that he's not
playing well and just try to put fits into win
to win football games. He forth was to make the playoffs.
It's not worried about next year. Jeff Schwartz joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Jeff, the situation between Baltimore
(19:57):
and Pittsburgh. Um, you feel like somebody's getting the shaft
in this situation. The fact that the game has now
been moved to Tuesday. The hope is it's going to
be played on Tuesday. And if you were the NFL
and it was your choice. How would you handle this situation? Yeah,
I mean the Stewards would definitely came the short end here, right.
I mean they had a situation where they you know,
(20:19):
they had their bye week got moved early season, so
instead of having the week off of practice early the
team they were practicing that week, right because they thought
they were gonna play, and then their game got canceled
and they got a weekend off and they went back
to practice on Monday, got ready for their next opponent.
Um and this week they had a Thursday game and
would have had Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and reports are tom
I was given them Monday Tuesday off, had a five
(20:40):
day break. That would be great, right, That would be
great for their older team, for Big Ben if everyone
just to rest down the stretch. Now they don't get that,
and they have to play a short week to follow
me was right. They have to play Tuesday and then
they have to play Sunday. So this is twice now
they've had to move games for Baltimore. And I get
where the NFL is trying to get the game in right,
(21:00):
because obviously you want to play the games on time.
You don't want to have a week a team for
just one single game, which would be odd. And this
is a vision of the game. It's important for for
the playoffs seating in the North. It's easy to say
that the Ravens have to forfeit. I get that, um,
but the players don't get paid this year if they
(21:21):
missed the game, and it's is unprecedented, right, Our contracts
do not say do we get paid per game? Right?
We just get it's it's baked in the contract. Their
sixteen games. It's never been a situation we have that
season games. We don't get paid, you know, per se
for the game itself. And for Pittsburgh to practice for
two weeks and not get paid for any of it
(21:41):
would be pretty bad feeling. And you know what if
you're a Ravens player and you didn't get COVID, right,
you weren't the one out in public, or you weren't
the one that brought in the facility, and maybe it
was an accident that it came into facility, But how
would you feel if you practice two and didn't didn't
get paid because someone else made a mistake. And so
I get that's eithery're playing the game, right is I
think they just want everyone to get their money and
(22:02):
get paid and the players at the end, we'll play
whenever they tell them they're going to play. Jeff Schwartz
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the Doug
Gottlib Show. He's Jonas Stocks. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in
for Doug. Of the seven win teams in the NFC, Rams, Packers, Seahawks,
and Buccaneers, who do you have most confidence in in
doing damage once the playoffs come around? Rams, Packers, Seahawks,
(22:26):
Bucks Um. Well, Look, I think that if if the
defensive is for Seattle and Green Day can improve, and
then between the Chief's defense last year improved draftedly over
the last month of the the season into the playoffs. If either,
if either one of those defenses can improve, that I
would I'd go to those guys. I go to Aaron
Rodgers and Russell Wilson first. I think Jared Goff is
(22:49):
still limited in what he can do if they get
behind in games that only trust him to come back.
And here's the thing about Tampa is they're kind of
in the same boat as is my opinion is Green
Bay and Seattle, but they need their whole team to
playoff to what they can do right there right now,
just so disjointed on offense that it's really it's it's
(23:09):
difficult to see them putting it all together. But if
they did, I think they'd be the favorite in the NFC.
But we haven't seen him doing. This is not the
best weekend for them to, you know, for for for
them to kind of come together. Maybe great if they
would be a much better game, but the Chiefs present
a lot of issues. You know, you have to keep
up points wise, Um, and it's hard to do that, Jeff.
(23:29):
The last one for me from an expert side, because
you played offensive line in the NFL for a long time.
Best and worst offensive line in the league belongs to who? Well,
the Bengals is the worst. I don't want to even
a question. Um, and they got they got poor poor
Burrow killed out there. Um. The best offensive line, um,
the Saints is it's I am a big fan of
(23:52):
doing tears with offensive lines that think it's really hard
to do best. The Saints are really good. The culture good.
The Bucks actually, I have really offensive line. I know
sometimes doesn't that way. Their offense is so disjointed, but yeah,
I mean Colts cults are good. Uh, Saints Bucks. Trying
to other officer on the NFL that are playing well.
(24:13):
I'm sure I missed one of people will yell at me, um,
that's probably yeah, that's about right. I think those three
of the putting the top tier. But it's and And
the reason I asked the question is because it's never well,
they've got a really good offensive line, but they're a
bad team. Like it just feels like like every team
that is looking at making a playoff run seems like
(24:34):
they have some at least a quality enough offensive line
to to be a good football team. It it never
goes in reverse to where, well, you know, the offensive
line is the strength of the team. Other than that
they're just crap. It just feels like we know this,
yet for whatever reason, it still feels like organizations go
in different directions. Yeah, but it's also coaching, you know, Like,
(24:55):
for example, take the Bengals, they drafted a first round center,
a first around left tackle, and they've dropped other pieces
as well, brought in guys and frequency, and they're just
not coach very well. Like, they're not coached up very well.
So it's not just about bringing in offensive linements also
being able to coach them, teach them, integrate your scheme
around what they do. You know, the Rams, for example,
(25:16):
do a great job of running an offense that six
their schemes so to the forty niners. Um. And I
think a lot of coaches just don't do that quite yet.
Um they're stubborn about it. And if you want to
begin in the NFL, you have to match up. You know,
you should draft lineman and pick them up that fix
your scheme. Anyways, I think that that's not done enough.
I don't think people, uh, you know, I'm a great
(25:39):
example for example, when I went to the Giants, we
were switching to a new offense with Ben mcado. I
am not a fit for that offense at all. I'm
a big, giant guard who wants to run, block and
in kind of firm pass protech and get after things
and being a three point stance and I'm in an
offense and a two point stance it's passed all the
time and running from shotgun that doesn't really run the
ball physically. Like I was not made for that offense,
(26:02):
but they took me anyways. And I mean just so,
like there's those things are important to look at when
valuing that position. I feel like that position still is.
It's not quite valued or really not looked at the
same way as as you know other positions. He's Jeff Schwartz.
That's where you can find him on Twitter. You can
also hear him in Tom's feeling in for Clay Travis
here on Fox Sports Radio. And I'll kick the coverage.
(26:23):
Eight year NFL VET taking time for us on this Friday.
Enjoy whatever they're gonna call Oregon Oregon State. Now we'll
just call the Civil War. Enjoy it. I'm gonna call I.
By the way, we have named it um the game
formally called the Civil War. Okay, very good. I can
say it. I can. It's a Pactuel radio employee. I
can talk about the game that way. Go to the
(26:43):
Prince or appreciate it man with oculator alright to here, guys,
see Jeff Dan Buyer, Jonas Knox in for Doug Gottlieb
here on Fox Sports Radio. You can listen to the
show on the I Heart Radio app. Get Dan on
Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox. Cutting Up Next a
first in the history of the show, never before heard
and invented by Dan Bayer. Find out what it is
(27:05):
next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show week days
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. That is The
Gottlieb Show. Oh, I think we have a Florida State
Highlight John right place. Wa there's there's offer of Tampa Bay.
(27:26):
Did I ever tell you this story about Gene decker Off? No? Not, Okay,
we had him on locally in Charleston, South Carolina years ago,
and Gene decker Off and I'm almost post legend he
ended the call because he was getting a couch delivered.
(27:47):
And I swear to god he ended the call live
on the air, and we looked at each other. I'm like,
did that just happen like that? Now, it's not as
bad as Burt Sugar, the former boxing analyst. I don't
know if you know ten count during an update dan
Bert Sugar, we had him on and he actually, while
on the air, took a leak like I'm not even kidding. Yeah,
(28:12):
just didn't even didn't even think that. You know, I'm
doing a radio interview right now. I probably should I
probably shouldn't wait, And I don't even know if he
washed his hands but yeah, there's that local radio. Get
Jonas on Twitter at the Jonas Knox. I met Dan
Buyer on Fox. John Ramos you can find him on
Twitter at j. S. Ramos zero six. You can also
find him in the hot seat right now as we
(28:34):
play all Ball with John Ramos. You know Doug has
got the podcast on the Herd podcast network called all Ball.
But this is all Ball with John Ramos. John, are
you ready to play today? I am always preparing and
ready to go at any time. All right, John, you
have to decipher the games that we tell you if
it's a college football game, a college basketball game, or
(29:00):
no ball game this weekend. So we're gonna give you
a bunch of different schools, a bunch of different matchups.
You gotta tell us if it's college football, college basketball,
or if it's no ball. Ready for that? All right, John?
We'll start out. What about number seventeen Houston against Boise State?
Is that football, basketball or no ball? I would say,
(29:22):
that's uh football, Oh John, that's basketball. It's actually going
on right now. Houston leads byt points midway through the
second half. Down John, All right? John. By the way,
John went uh four of eight in heel or no heel?
Yesterday with Bucky Brooks and hell, did you guys do
(29:42):
Brooks and done? Yes? Of course we did. How did
you know? All right? So here we go, John, football,
basketball or no ball? Lamar verse two lane? No ball?
That's incorrect, Job, that's basketball. Come on, John, step it up?
(30:05):
All right, John? What about bu at l o l
He knows your cadence. He starts laughing before you get
even that is correct? Well don, John? All right, John?
You ready Martin Tech Verse Shapiro State. I'm gonna say,
(30:29):
no ball. That's correct, all right, John's got too. How
about Central Michigan against Eastern Michigan. That sounds like basketball
It might, but it's actually foot Yes, Yes, that's a
football game that's gonna be going on this weekend. Alright, Sorry, John,
You're two of five so far, Johnny ready, Stanford verse
(30:53):
Col's tall basketball or no ball? I'd say it's football, correct,
all right? John? Three of six? That the Bell game
or something like that? Yeah, Actually say by the Bell
games screech screeches doing the honor. The band is on
(31:14):
the field. Grand Canyon University against Mount Rushmore College. I'm
gonna say no ball. That is correct. There is Grand Canyon.
See the commercials, by the way, those commercials are like
the college basketball games. Like it's like the Cameron Craziest
(31:34):
Times ten. Remember those Grand Canyon University commercials. It's like,
this is the most amazing college basketball game ever. Who
are they playing? Laverne Well surely watched it. Shout out
to the super tense. By the way, all right, here
we go, John football basketball or no ball? George Mason
(31:56):
versus George Rice stir. What's so funny, John? That's no ball?
Good John? All right, John? Five of eight back to back.
What about George Washington against George Jefferson. That's no ball.
Now you're moving on up, John, moving on up? Six
(32:19):
of nine? Right now? All right, Johnny football basketball, no ball?
Eastern Kentucky vers Charleston Southern. That's that's basketball. Oh he's
on fire. Good job. Yes. What about f DU against
Rutgeres no ball? No, that is it's fairly Dickinson University.
(32:49):
I don't know where your mind is kidding, man, I
thought it was alright, Johnny? Ready? Yeah, I want to
win a second. I don't want to know what you
thought that he was. That's what I want to know.
I don't move on, all right, Johnny Lamar versus jack
(33:13):
Johnny Lamar versus Jackson, what's so funny? John Peyton versus Manning.
I'll say that's no ball, alright. Twelve. Got a couple
more about Wisconsin against you w Madison. I'm gonna say
it's basketball. They're the same school, the Wisconsin Badgers against
(33:38):
the w Madison Badgers. I'd be like USC versus Southern
Cal Yes, exactly, exactly, So that's no ball, all right, Johnny,
George Mason verse Belmont, George Mason Belmont, I would say basketball. God,
(34:00):
he's on fire, all right, you can't even can't contain him? No,
al right, I got one more, one more Jonas? Yeah, okay, alright,
you c F versus usf CF basketball. It's football Central
Florida against South Florida, right, Johnny? Last one? Yes? Football
(34:21):
basketball or no ball? North Carolina A and T versus
down with opp I don't give all right, Ramos, who
got ten out of sixteen correct in All Ball? Download
(34:42):
All Ball right now with John Ramos at Fox Sports
Radio dot com. Yeah, all right, Dan fired. Jonas knockson
for dot gott leeve here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
John if you have any questions or critiques for John
Ramos at j S. Ramos zero six is where you
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(35:02):
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Oh there it is, uh the Great Gene decker Off.
(35:26):
He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer. We are in for
Doug Gottleib today on The Doug Gottleib Show. But we're
gonna do what Doug usually does at this time in
a segment we like to call Now all right, Jonas,
We're gonna get right to its. Skip Bayliss on Undisputed
earlier today on Fox Sports One, weighing in on the
game of the week in the National Football League. Week
(35:47):
twelve showed own between the Chiefs and Buccaneers. My heart
is saying Brady, Brady, Brady, my head is screaming back
at my heart. You better be careful here, because can
he score forty plus? Because I think he's gonna have
to score forty to win this game unless you tell
me that Todd Bowles defense has enough pride that it's
(36:08):
one of those days where they dredge up whatever is
left with their pride and their passion and their guts
and they just say that's enough of this, not in
our house this time. Watch this if they rise up
and have one of those emotional, just over the top,
all out efforts against Mahomes where they make every play
(36:28):
every moment, they don't make one mistake, they don't give
up any bomb plays, and they hang in there. Tampa
could win this game thirty eight to thirty five. At best,
they will hold them to thirty five. But my head
is saying, no, it's gonna be forty two to thirty
eight because Mahomes is going to get that one more
touchdown to go forty two to thirty eight. But in
(36:49):
the end, it's not going to be Brady's fault that
they lose. This is going to be a shootout old
versus young, And yet I don't know that that Brady's
defense will be much, if any better than I'm I'm
just gonna say this, the Bucketeers are seven and four.
(37:09):
We talked about them like they're two and nine, but
they are. Although I just that game last week was
was such a bad loss. Just from the stance of
I think I've pretty much given up on the fact
that they're going to get a first round by which
which has always been Brady's, you know, one of the
(37:32):
added benefits from playing in New England. I don't think
he ever reached the Super Bowl without that first round
by other than the first one, if I'm not mistaken,
Like I can't think of any time. Yeah, they were
either the one or the two seeds, right, And so my, my,
my old thing is what do we expect for that
when they get to I clearly they have the talent.
(37:53):
When their offenses humming and they're running the ball and
they and they commit to the run, they're completely different offense.
It just doesn't it feel like though, that they get
so pass happy and it's not always that no situation
dictates it. I mean, last week, that game was never
out of reach, that they had to throw and run
the ball as few at times as they did it.
It just it feels odd. There's something there that's not
(38:14):
fitting and not meshing, and I can't figure it out.
I can't put my finger. I don't I don't think
that it's I think it's a matchup nightmare for the
Buccaneers because they are decent against the run, and Kansas
City has shown last week they actually committed to it,
because I think they will down the line. But realistically,
we've also seen Kansas City survive without running the football.
We have never seen Tampa Bay survive without running the football,
(38:36):
and that's a big difference. I just I think it's
a matchup nightmare for Tampa Bay in this situation. Also,
Brady doesn't have that James White, I mean, Ronald Jones
and Leonard four Nette are almost liabilities catching the ball
out of the backfield, like that's an issue for them.
And I don't think Tampa is willing to run the
ball and keep it for forty minutes away from Kansas City,
which is a way that I think you would need
(38:57):
to beat the Chiefs. I want you to be honest
with me, be honest. Are you going to watch any
of Giants Bengals? Oh of course I will. I manna
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