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Oh Wow? I really like I really enjoy sports. I do.
I don't like guys whosing their job and getting fired.
But other than that, I mean, I generally super enjoy sports. Which, um, look,
this is an amazing time that we're a part of,
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an amazing time that we're part of, and there's a
breaking story of the day, and I gotta tell you,
I kind of feel like, um kind of feel like
that's that story is only being half told. So the
Browns apparently have had a bit of a COVID outbreak.
Their head coach Kevin Stefanski, who has been in the
league for like a quarter century. It's really a good story.
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Like here's a guy who worked his way up on
the coaching staff of the Vikings, became their offensive coordinator
and they became a solid playoff team. Kind of saved
the whole Kirk Cousins deal with his ability to work
both with Mike Zimmer, integrate um in a integrate a
zone blocking running scheme. You know, work not just with Cousins,
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but with all the talent they had in Minnesota. And look,
it didn't it didn't fit well with Stefon Diggs, but
other than that it was a success. Then he ends
up getting the Browns job, and the Browns were so
poorly coached that, uh, you know Freddie Kitchens, which just
in over his head. Stefanski's coming, He's been super solid.
He gets the Browns and I'm not gonna sit here
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and tell you to the best team in the NFL.
Or you know, you could make the case that with
the point differential, they shouldn't be in the playoffs. That
that's your opinion. The only stat that really matters to
me is did you win or did you lose? They
want enough games where they're in the playoffs. But look,
it's a it's a really good story. It's a really
good story, and I don't want anything to be lost
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on it that he should be coaching his first game
in the playoffs the first time in eighteen years the
Brown has been the playoffs this Cup coming weekend. Instead,
he's not gonna be able to coach, and his special
teams coordinator is going to take over temporarily. Now we've
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learned a lot of things about what the what the
next five ten years are going to look like from
the last essentially ten months, And what's amazing to me
about the NFL is that on some in some levels,
many levels, it's so incredibly well run. It really if
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you've ever been a part of an NFL broadcast, you're like, well,
I I get it. There there are specific things that
they do. You know, there's a if you look at
an NFL field, there's a yellow line that goes around
the entire field. If you'll notice, no one outside of
players is able to be inside the yellow line. By
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the way, guys, I'm getting a little bit an echo,
little bit of feedback there, um my mixed minus is off.
Um So, look, the NFL is incredibly well run. But
but here's what's amazing about it. This is what's truly remarkable.
Everyone else has learned to work from home broadcast. Kirk
curb Street just called the National Semifinals from his home office.
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That's right, a live broadcast. He did not as many
in game tellustrations. He did mostly out of break and
I'm guessing that's part of the technology which is really
difficult to kind of work through on the fly. Kirk
curb Street called the game where you have I don't
know what it was. I've seen the behind the scenes,
like nine monitors. He's got a computer, he's got people.
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He called the game from his house. Nightly, we're having
NBA games called from dudes houses. College basketball games. My
boy Boog Shambi and fran Frischella called the West Virginia
come from behind win against Oaklahoma State from their house.
You are probably working many times from your house. I'm
in my house right now, So you mean to tell
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me that with all of this technology where people can
use zoom to meet with people anywhere in the world
from the comfort of their own home, where Herbie can
broadcast the national semifinal from his own home with with
the technology that we have today, You mean tell me
that the NFL can't allow Kevin Stefanski to coach his
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team from his house while he gets through whatever protocols
they need him to get through. For COVID nineteen, Hugh
Freeze was in a hospital bed at Liberty University a
year ago. They got doctors running around, they got him
hooked up to an ivy. He's literally called coaching the
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team from one of the sky boxes. And he didn't
actually need to be there. Now you don't. You can
digitally be anywhere anywhere in the world. Hell Tupac has
been dead for twenty years, and I've seen concerts. Wasn't
he yet Coachella where they were they superimposed him and
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there's like a duet of him wrapping nat King Cole
has been dead forever and Natalie Colet recorded duet with
their deceased father. So this is not me ripping the Oulets,
of ripping the NFL a little bit. This is just
the whole idea of, Hey, you know, technology is not
always a bad word, and if we can have grandparents
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FaceTime their grandkids and we can figure out how to
have national TV broadcast where partners aren't in the same
room or aren't even in the stadium or in the arena.
Am I crazy here to think that the idea of
keeping Kevin Stefanski home is fine? Fine? Um, but I
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I it's like comical to me that they can't sit
there and go like, hey, let's make him stay home.
But if they want pay for the technology where he
can have all the monitors, he can set up a
headset and he can have a direct line in to
the coach's box or to his special team's coordinator. Like,
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isn't that what we've learned in two thousand twenty two,
thou one, that you can be virtually anywhere. I am
not the smartest person. I can't tell you how any
of this stuff works. I'm trying to buy a new
laptop and I'm trying to figure out do you actually
need a laptop or do I need an iPad? Right,
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because it's not like I'm sitting there doing video edits
and whatever not so much like you know, I get
on the internet. I mean, I bet it's got a
need expense reports, which I'm terrible at, and you know,
some some Excel sheets and email and serve the internet, right,
and so you know, you go and you're like a
processor speed. And I don't know any about this stuff.
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So I'm not professing to be super super smart, but
I do know that as we evolve, you know, I
saw this, For example, um, the makers of Fortnite. You
guys know the video game Fortnite. If you have kids,
you probably you're probably just discovering now, Like where have
my children been for the last three years? They've been
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playing Fortnite? Right? So Fortnite we started by, you know,
a small shop, small video game group group. Right, It's
become the biggest game on earth. So what do they do.
They bought a vacant mall and they're gonna turn that
into corporate headquarters. I think that's outstanding. Like, all, there's
gonna be all these malls around the country that are
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completely empty, not just because of COVID, but because people
shop online now, and there could be these massive spaces,
and what do you do in those massive spaces? Some
will turn into entertainment complexes, some will turn into corporate headquarters.
It's pretty cool, right, each department has a department store.
I kind of like the idea, But the point more
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is that like we evolve and find new and inventive
ways to to to change and to figure it out. Right,
you mean to tell me that the NFL can't go like, hey,
Kevin Stefanski, Look, you can't be at the facility, you
can't be in the locker room, you can't have any
face to face contact. But outside of that, whatever you
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want to do. You know, I had my mom is
her birthday is coming up. I gotta get her some
My mom is, I'm not gonna tall. She's in her
seventies and you know she has not been able to
see her grandson play sports here this fall. It's like,
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we just call me, you can face time and why
you know, like I've I've been not been at events
that you can I can face. Why can'ts Kevin Stefanski.
So the point of this little rant is I think
the NFL is so smart, but they're like the really
smart people where sometimes they get in their own way,
they trip over their own shoelace for lack of a
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better term, and this is a a pretty pretty big
shoelace to trip over when the easy and simple solution
is exactly what you think it is, which is exactly
what you think it is. The easy and simple solution is, well,
just let him coach the game from however digitally they're
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from from his house. Do that and you're good to go.
Is there something I missed? Buyers? There's something I'm missing
on this thing? Is there some Is there some protocol
which is reasonable? That is there some something that you
think that he would there'd be some cheat being at home,
Like even if you didn't allow him them, even if
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you took away the delay, the six second delay. There
there's no added benefits of coaching from home? Is there?
I keep going back to Hugh Freeze in the hospital
bed and it was hilarious. Yes, yes, like of of
of seriously of what you could And I know that
Kinvin Stefanski wouldn't be in a hospital bed, but they
were able to make that work in a way where
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maybe it probably wasn't even you know, it wasn't then
the best interest of of Hugh Freeze at that time.
But if you just put him in a room somewhere, Um,
I mean I get remotely from home? Is that is
you know everything that you've talked about? Yeah, No, I
don't think that there's I don't think there's anything out
of whack with what you're saying. Actually think if they
had more time to figure this out, they probably would
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figure out ways to do This could be wrong, but
that's how much more time you need taste Tuesday. Yeah,
I know, I just if if you're in a situation
where you haven't allowed that throughout the season, I don't
know how you can allow it right now, Like you've
just made the Lions have half a staff in a
game towards the end of the year, so you can't
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really change it. So that didn't make any sense to
me then, and I'm not but but I can't go
back correct, but but we would free the technology is
clearly there, absolutely, And what I was just saying was
more time in figuring out and this is from the
start of the season, because once you do what you've done,
I think in these situations it's kind of difficult to
go back on what you've done. So that was just
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that was just what I thought. But again, but I
and I understand exactly what you're saying. Understand exactly what
you're saying. My counter that would be pretty simple, which
is yes, but during this time, what we've learned is
that you know, you just you throw the pass kind
of out the window and you just kind of go
for it, you know. And and and yes, we haven't
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done it before, and you probably should have done it.
But why does why does that matter? Right? Like it's like,
let's just try. What's the worst thing that could happen?
Like his his WiFi doesn't work, so he doesn't get
a play call in Like okay, well then you weren't
expecting to have him there anyway? Why not? Yeah, I
don't know if they I don't know if they're And
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I'm just spitball you you know, privy to replace are
they're gonna hear something on a broadcast that you know
was said uh you know too, you know to to
the TV crew that maybe they passed along. You know,
I I don't know, I it and I'm just throwing
stuff out there, you know. And even as I said it,
you know, to have Kevin Stefanski who has it to
show up at the stadium wouldn't be a good optic,
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you know, to you know, that just wouldn't be. No,
you can't. I I totally understand why you can't do that.
I get that what I don't know more or less.
You know, I got I got it, I got it.
But but what I what what I'm suggesting is just like, okay,
as long as you say look, you cannot be anywhere
in the building outside of that, you do whatever you want.
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Like I don't. I don't know why that is. I don't.
I need Here's what I need. I need somebody to
suggest to me why other than they haven't done it before,
Why Kevin Stefanski can't coach the team from his house.
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. What Up
to God Leap Show? Fox Sports Radio? Mm hmmm. You know,
here's what we have a tendency to do. Okay, we
do this thing and this is a this is a
really dumb thing that we do. We do things because
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that's how we've always done them. All right, We do
things because that's how we've always done them. Have you
ever heard somebody said that, why did you do that? Well,
that's how we've always done it. That that doesn't that
done an acceptable answer. If you do it because this
is the smartest possible way to do it. Okay, this
is the safest possible way to do it. Okay. But
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if it's why do you do that? Last? We always
done it? Okay? I mean things times change, you know,
and look, you're for for me. I I'm also somebody goes, well,
the fundamentals are the fundamentals? What's that mean? Well, you know,
I think in any practice, in any sport, you know
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that that you could like, if it's if you're coaching baseball,
you take grounders every day, right, every single day, you
should field the baseball, catch the baseball, throw the baseball
every single day. You're coaching basketball, dribbling, passing, catching, cutting,
pivoting every day, football fundamentals every day. You're like, well,
you're all we would do that because that's your it's
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your conscient No, I'm not. You don't just do that
because that's how we've always done it. You do it
because hey, those fundamentals are still very important. All of
the other New age stuff, all of the other you know,
my my dad used to always do form shooting at
the start of every practice. He would also do layups
either hand Mike and like the Mike and droll, why
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do you do the mic condroll that's always always not? No,
you do it because end of the day, three point
shots may fall and not fall. He who makes the
most ups wins. These fundamentals help you be successful. But
like I I offer up in the NFL, like, why
do we have these arcane rule of you can't coach
from home? Because there's some Yes, there's probably an advantage
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to seeing a replay on a a a seventy five
inch television set as opposed to being on the field,
but there's plenty of disadvantages to try calling plays from
your house. So I asked you, uh, I ask you.
You know why why can't the NFL allow Kevin Stefanski
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to coach from home? You know why not? Well, it's
a pandemic, dude. You We've never had an NFL head
coach be ruled out because it's something that may or
may not make him sick. And here's the great thing
about it. If you don't like it, you don't have
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to do it anymore. And you're easy exit, You're easy
ejector seat is wow, we did it because it was
during COVID and pandemic like a right, right, So just
kind of something to think about as we move forward.
So gott leave show here on Fox Sports Radio, Adam
Kaplan joins us. Of course, he's a Fox Sports Radio's
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NFL insider. What do you think of my idea? Like
I I everyone's working from home? Why can't Kevin Stefancy.
Here's the thing, And it's funny you mentioned this because
I've thought about this before, because, um, some coaches I
know who who assistant the NFL, we're not a lot
of work. Because they were close contacts with coaches and
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they were not a lot of work a week one week,
they could not sipay in their game. They had to
work from home. But they could have work during the day.
They could they could call, they could be on the
phone before the game, like they could call talk game planning. Um,
but once the game starts, it's over. Like there's a
time when you can't talk to these guys, but they
couldn't help them during the game. So and remember, Doug,
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they're are they're using in between players. They're using the
tablet instead of you know, you should they send film
down years ago. Now they use tablets on the sidelines.
So why can't they, Um, if they're on screen, Doug,
if if they're watching the game at home on on
a big screen, right, why can't they just communicate from
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the sidelines because they're they're talking the guys up in
the booth anyway upstairs that I that I would like
to see, but they'll never do it. And I agree
with your statement. You know, sometimes you gotta change. This
is the unprecedented times here. Why hurt the team and
hasn't made the playoffs for eighteen years in poor Joel Patonio,
first time in the playoffs and he won't be available
either of their star guard. Yeah, it sucks, I mean,
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but but again, like we we can try things. You know,
we we were doing tent people are doing television shows
from the house. Correct. You know Kirk kerbstry Apoint called
the National Champion game from his house. No one, No
one knew unless you the draft was the GM were
the GMS are at home? Makes makes it? Makes sense? Um,
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is Miami making a mistake. I don't know if you
saw this, but Chris Greer, their GM came out today.
Of course he drafted the guy. But Steve, now, Steve
Kim drafted drafted Josh Rosen, and then a year later
he decided that was that was different. That was different
because Kyler Murray was Cliff king Cliff Kingsbury's guy. That
was so when he recruited and that was the only
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but but but hold on, but but but like if
we're fair, okay, Steve kind of picked the head coach
picked the quarterback. Neither worked, and he was willing to go, hey,
you know what, my bad made a change on both.
And it looks like, you know, even though there's still
eight and eight, looks like it was the right decision.
I don't think anybody argue is the right decision. Um,
what about Chris Greer saying earlier today that to is
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their starting quarterback. Here's why they did it. You have
to come out and get ahead of this. There could
be no speculation. First of all, if Ryan Pitts Fitzpatrick
did not test positive okay for COVID, he would have
relieved to it. Last week too was awful. I mean,
obviously the worst game he's ever probably played in his life.
That would have been the third time that he would
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have been benched during a game. You can't do this.
I talked to Doug when the when the first time
they pulled to I mean, that was surprised that they
did it when right after they did it twice. I'm like,
this is a story here. So I talked to probably
three or four offensive coaches want a current offensive coordinator.
They all agreed on one thing. You'd never want a
young quarterback looking over his shoulder. So Greer is doing
the smart thing, get out in front of it to
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what's your starting quarterback? But here's the problem. Though you've
already benched the guy in game. You've benched them twice
and as I said, it probably would have been a
third time against Buffalo. So now you have you set
the president who says you won't do it again. But
they did what they had to do. Hey, he's the
guy they're not drafting. I want to take this job.
Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, I agree.
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And what they did is by having him look you know,
play with in basketball called one eye, you know, one
eye on the bench. Um, that's what Philadelphia is guilty. Okay,
so let's go to the Philadelphia thing. I think the
only winner in this deal, which thing, by the way,
are you talking about there there's so many things going
with the Eagles. I mean, what do you want to say?
In totality, Sunday night was a win for Carson Wentz.
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Here's why Jalen Hurts is not good enough. You're not
gonna convince me with otherwise. The more he plays, the
more his flaws get exposed. That's what happened in Alabama.
That's ha been in Oklahoma, and you can't play that
way in the NFL, where if you don't see your
first read, you tuck and run it. And and he's athletic,
but he's he's actually I'm gonna disagree with that. The
Arizona game was the one game where he really went
through his progressions. I hear you, because not that you
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just said certainly is part of why he dropped. He
would have dropped out of the second round. No one
else is drafted the second round. Eagles just wanted him,
so they took him earlier. But you're right, Um, he
definitely is a guy that needs more work. But but
you think that this helped Carson wants keep talking. I
gotta hear this. I I just think, look, at the
end of the day, a the coaching, the obviously Jalen
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Hurts was not surrounded by good enough talent um and
Jalen is not good enough like that guy ain't. He's
not the answer. Sudfeld is not the answer. And if
it was coach versus player, the coach lost a ton
of credibility, not just with the like the idea of
getting Sunfelt in is not a terrible idea, but throwing
him in the fourth quarter is a terrible idea. That
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is that. It just it's an awful look for everybody
all around. And I think the day you're like, you
know what, I'm I'm a cyber Carson Now for no
other reason than I think that Doug Peterson has no
idea what he's what he's doing. Yeah, I thought, I thought.
I thought it was kind of a win for him.
It was a bad look. So so their plan was
to go in the game that Sudfelt was going to play.
They had Carson Wentz in active, the only two quarterbacks active.
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What they should have done if they were going to
play Sudfelt is playing. It give him a half of football.
But here's the problem with it. Not only is he
not under contract next season, there's no chance he's coming back. Uh,
Nate Sudfeld was a guy they really developed that he
was actually only the backup for the Super Bowl game. Um,
he's not. He's actually regressed, as not to the degree
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that Carson Wentz is regressed, but he he regressed. He
had not been active, Doug. I don't know if you
know this. The last time he was active was week one,
week one, and now you decide to play him all
of a sudden. The whole thing is bizarre to me.
I know the Eagle fans are not the ones who
are really up in arms because now they have the
sixth pick in the draft instead of the ninth. But
the fact of the matter is, um, naturally it Li's
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a bad luck. There's no question. And by the way,
I don't know if you saw some of the stories
are out here locally in Philly some of the playoff.
There was a report from the Inquirer that says that,
quite frankly, some of the players were really upset. A
couple of defensive players had to be uh pulled back
from uh really showing their displeasure during the game. So
what happens? I think, Look, I do believe in my
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information gathering the last six weeks that once. It's pretty upset. Uh,
it's more of an organization thing. It's not just with
the the head coach. It's it's the story, the NFL
network story about his his practice habits. He had he
had an answer to that, um the issues that happened
last year with unnamed player sources criticizing him behind his back.
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What this doesn't happen with star quarterbacks typically, you rarely
see something like this. And I think he's he's a
broken down quarterback. I think he's upset about it. I
don't think Vega saw this coming, and he saw the
ESPN report obviously from the great Chris Botinson, who we
I'm sure we both know when Moore puts a story
out like that that the guy wants out. I believe it.
Now the question is moving this forward. I do believe
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more it's report is correct. Can they assuage his concerns?
Can they have do they? Could they put a plan
together to to rebuild this quarterback? He's broken, Doug. This
guy looks like he looks like a third string quarterback
right now. Unfortunately, it was a superstar in seventeen, by far,
the best quarterback in Eagles history. Now that looks like
just a guy. Unfortunately, Adam Kaplan joining us in the
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Doug Gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Does feel
like there's gonna be another quarterback carousel. Right. Last year
was kind of the first time in memory, you know, Rivers,
but the these guys are kind of at the end
of the line Rivers and Brady. Now we have Stafford,
Matt Ryan, Carson, Wentz, Jimmy Garoppolo, Um like Sam Donald right,
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so okay, so so so when the music stops, is
it crazy to think? Okay, Donald to San Francisco, Garoppolo
to New England, Wentz to in the staff or Chicago
where Stafford go. That one's interesting because there are a
lot of you know, they general manager there. So you
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mentioned it's funny you mentioned a couple of these teams
that don't have GM. Some do, some don't. It's gonna
like Atlanta. Atlanta does not want to trade him. Now,
what they've done is they're gonna leave it up to
the new GM who's gonna have personnel control, and they'll
go that way. Matt Ryan is is fine, He's not
the problem. The problem is their defense, their offensive line. Also,
the spending. Despite spending all these first round picks. Their
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offensive line isn't good enough. Um, I believe your Sessa.
It is correct. We're gonna see the more quarter quarterback
movement than we we normally would. Uh. Then you know
there's some teams that aren't sure about their quarterback. You know,
the Denver's hoping Drew lock will play at a higher level.
He hasn't played well enough. We know Jacksonville drafting quarterback
at number one, that that thing's done. And and I
said this in September and other Jets were not. They're
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aware of what I said. I said that Joe Douglas
is the general manager. He inherited Sam Donald. I know
for a fact that Douglas likes him, but he's not
married to him because he didn't draft him. Right, when
these guys don't draft them, there's no allegiance to the
quarterback and shut. And don't forget Donald's got a fifth
year option that's doing may so they have a decision
to make on his contract. Doug Gotlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, I I watched Washington and I'm like, look,
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everybody's talking about Drew Brees being done, Philip Rivers being done.
Is Alex Smith's last game, and well he's got a
seventeen million dollar stalar, which is uh there, there's no
there's no guarantees left in the contract. They expire after
the season. To me, he's what we call transitional quarterback.
You might be able to get a year out of
him if the rookie is not ready, but if you're
trying to win, he's he look the guys, and what
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an awesome guy. Seventeen surgeries, Doug. But you asked me
a question, question, I'm gonna answer it. He's not a
starting quarterback anymore. It's just not he's the calf in
the right calf strain. Look, he got hurt. Unfortunately, uh
Ron Rivere's got by the way, he's got personal control.
He's probably gonna hire GM. They're they're one of seven teams. Dog.
This like never happens. Usually there's zero one or two
GM openings. This year they're like like seven. It's almost
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hard to understand. But the Washington's that they there are
another team. If we went through thirty two teams, I
bet you there're twelve teams that don't know who their
starting quarterbacks will be next season. Yeah. No, it's it's
really interesting. Um, there was there was all this talk
about Urban Meyer in Jacksonville, but again that's that's more
kind of media talk. You know, the NFL guys, NFL
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insider for Fox sport trading, Adam Kaplan joining us. How
how much tangible stuff is there? Really? If rber Meyer
wants to be a head coach and Nut football like
he will be one tomorrow. That that's the way I
understand it. It's just he needs to make a decision
and what he wants to do. He's great on television
for oxy phenomenal um Urban the way I understand that
he's resisted the temptation. Uh, he wanted to get away
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from football a little bit, and he's around and obviously
doing television being close to college football zas he's terrific. Um,
he just needs to make a decision. It's real simple
and and and shot con the owner. He's super supportive.
He stays out of everything. Now he's been on record
saying they're gonna solve this quarterback issue there, which tells
you they're gonna draft Trevor Lawrence. But he's typically a
guy that gets out of the way. Uh. You know
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why the Jacksonville job Doug is so great. Most amount
of cap space, um right up there in the most
amount of draft picks and you're gonna have. You could
flip this roster very very quickly. Cap space, draft picks,
and the number one pick overall, which is going to
be a quarterback. It's by far the best job available
of all of them. Yeah, I don't think it's what's
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the worst job available? Oh, of the of the six
that only because of the See here's the difference between
the Detroit one and the the Houston. Detroit is good
because you got a quarterback in a way, but the
other the other problem is the defenses. They have like
no talent defense, very little um ververy talented wide receiver.
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But Houston's got probably better players. But the defense is
a disaster. And the problem is the lack of draft picks.
And that's bet Now It's It's okay if you're a
head coaching candidate, you want you want Watson, but if
you Jam Kennedy talking to guys are up for a job,
it's down to the bottom because of the situation with
draft picks. In the future, Adam, great stuff, man, this
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should be an outstanding UM playoff weekend obviously the first
of its kind with only with only one by the biggest,
biggest ups Do you see any upsets coming? The way
I see it and the way I see this see,
I don't see well, you know, I don't call. I
don't know what the line is. I Titans are gonna
beat Baltimar. That that's I know. That's a type game,
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and I just don't think Baltimore is not. Lamar has
been this great quarterback in the regular season, has not
been good to the post season. But their defense, the
Tennessee's defense is bad. But they'll they'll find a way
to win. Not the first round. Seattle will win, Buffalo
will win. No, the Chalk's not getting it done. Okay,
So you Seattle with Jamal Adams game time decision, I
don't know if you saw that one. Yeah, no, I
know with what he's he's also had a shoulder problem.
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But the problem is a quarterback with Jared with Jared
goss thumb um, he's very questionable, as I understand it.
With that right thumb issue. Boy, their offense is struggling. Now,
I don't I don't see it. I don't think the boy.
The second round games are gonna be unbelievable, unbelievable, right
Tampa in Green Bay, although I was and I know
Tampa beat Green Bay. I just I don't see a
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forty three year old Tom Brady in bad I know, awesome,
bad weather. He's been awesome, but I know he's been
good and bad weather in the past, but I don't
I don't see it. I don't see him going in
January a team from Tampa going and beating him. Well,
the right and the problem that with Tampa's the defense,
their secondary, that they were unbelievable the first half of
the season. They've really dropped off. Uh, Kansas City. Buffalo
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is the only team I think could beat them in
the a f C. Buffalo is so well coached, they
have a very good defense. Josh Allen's been unbelievable forty
five Coban touchdowns Sean Once again, great coaching sometimes can
overcome inaccuracy, because as you know Doug being a forward
point guard man, if you can't if you can't dish
it accurately, it's gonna be hard. But great coaching sometimes
could help overcome that. And I thought I thought the
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thing would be a disaster only from that I know,
but I thought, because like, look, he wants the ball
and they've gotten in the ball. But I just thought, man,
he guy's inaccurate's gonna take him off, And you know,
like that's fair because I've seen I've seen Deeva receivers
go after him. But no, he's been a model citizen.
He's been unbelod he has really been a difference maker
and uh no, talking some of their coaches, he's unbelievably competitive,
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which is what you want in practice. That gets your
guys going. Great stuff, Adam, Happy New Year two. Thanks
for joining us, Adam Kaplan joining us NFL Insider. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug gott
Leap Show week days at three p m. Easter Noon Pacific,
and the Highspord Trophy will be handed out tonight in
a virtual ceremony with the four finalists, Davante Smith, Mac Jones,
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Kyle Trask, and Trevor Lawrence. Okay, this is a quick
is the question I have? I don't know. Maybe maybe
I'll text my boy Chris Feliko or Herbie over it
at ESPN, But it's just a question. Wouldn't the guy
who's gonna win? No, because they have to deliver the
trophy to the house. Are they're delivering like four uh
four suitcases you know that have only one has something inside.
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I I do not have the answer to that. I
had my own theory. I think Trevor Lawrence finishes fourth,
but they just wanted to include him on this to
have a little bit more buzz um. I know it's
completely separate to your point, which is actually way more interesting.
I think Davante Smith wins it. I think Devanta Smith
is great. Um, he's great. It's really hard because I mean,
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Jerry Judy was great last year and like a wide receiver,
he's good. I don't know if he's that like, is
he he far away the best college football player in
the country. That's a tough one for me. Yeah, And
voting was done before the national semifinals on New Year's Day,
so so even Smith's great performance there wouldn't add into
what you know, what you got. Charles Robinson joins us
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from Yahoo's Sports. Um, Charles, I was trying, like, look,
we're doing the the Heisman Trophy virtually, did the draft virtually.
I'm guessing you're at your house right now, right Like,
it's amazing how many people are like, why did I
go in the office to begin with? Why can't Kevin
Stefanski coach from home this week? Uh? You know, I
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mean that's a good question, because you know, I even
thought I thought about that myself, that that, um, you know,
there there has to be a way technologically to link
this up, you know, so that he could see things
pretty close to real time. I don't know why, you know,
that's something that couldn't be um pulled off. Honestly, I
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don't know. I don't and and I'll be look, I'll
be completely really there may be something as far as
what the league worked out, UM with the union and
and with other teams, as far as like, hey, if
some off a coach gets COVID and there's at home,
there's not going to be an ability, you know for
that coach to to coach from home. And I actually
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what I would tell you is when you think about
the limited number of um like electronic devices you can
have on the sidelines, UM, what coaches can see on televisions,
Like there's all these limitations on coach communications in game.
I almost wonder if that has something to do with
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how the league you know, looks at it. Or thinks
about it. I get I get it, but like, look,
the easy out is like hat's pandemic, you know, like
we're try something right. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I
mean like every everything, you know, it's like what what
is really? If he was coaching from the box, he'd
have the same view, he'd have the same monitors. You know,
there's an advantage of being on the sideline. We can
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interact with people. You can you can shoot on the
line judge, you know, or the side judge too, because
the back judge keeps screwing up. You can't do that
when you're at home, like I don't. There's lots of
things that for a long time like you can't do
that you're working from home. It turns out you can.
This I think is one of them. I don't know.
I just I actually think it'd be a good look
for the NFL. It feels like you're punishing a guy
for something that's kind of out of his control. Yeah, well,
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there's no question I think that Browns. You know, you're
talking about having players potentially missed this game who have
earned it, and and you know you have a head
coach who's probably gonna get some Coach the Year votes
definitely probably earned this opportunity. I don't think there's any
question about that. And um, but I'm sure that there
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is some elements of you know, um competitive advantage that
other coaching staff would have a problem. I listen, these
guys accuse each other all kinds of things on the
seeds as it is. You know, God forbid your headset.
You know, um, go go out of communicates for thirty
seconds at a key point in the game. You know,
there's always this conspiracy theory while we were in the
opposing stadium and they provided this and then you know
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they had something to do with that. I don't know.
It's probably a nightmare of of dealing with whether or
not there was some element of a competitive advantage. But
you're right. I mean, it's a the bizarre season and
they've tried a lot of different things. I don't know
why this couldn't be something that they could have figured out,
you know, one way or another for him to to
to coach this game from home or at least calling something.
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I'm not sure as well. Robinson joining us on The
Doug Outland Show on Fox Sports Radio UM earlier today,
Chris Greers the GM of the Dolphins said to is
our guy. How does the rest of the league see that?
I don't think. I don't look the way that the
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we in the media. I think now I've gotten with
young quarterbacks and fan bases have gotten with young quarterbacks.
I don't. I don't think the league feel like the
the um timeline on these guys has pushed as much
as the rest of us think. I don't. I don't
to is still when you talk to people evaluated to
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another franchise, is they bring up things that like everybody's
conveniently forgot. You know, he broke his hip, like at
a hip fracture. He was out for a long time,
and he was not a completely polished guy before the
hip fracture happened. There was considered, you know, there was
going to be a learning curve with Toa when he
came into the league. And for whatever reason, and I
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think it's because of you know, Justin Herbert and it's
probably from seeing like Josh Allen takes that, you know,
these huge steps every couple of years. Because Lamar Jackson
lit up the league, you know in year two and
you know, wins an mp P and like you know,
Kyler Murray. I think people get so used and customed
to these quarterbacks coming in the league and just tearing
it up that as soon as you know, oh and
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by the way, the Kyler Murray Josh Rosen thing hasn't helped,
you know, watching Arizona and they have the number three
and the Dolphins of the number three pick, and so
now everybody's like, well, hey, you just say they did it,
so we can do it. And and okay, well, what's
the guarantee the kid you're gonna get it? Number three
is gonna be any better than two? Is? Like maybe
Justin Fields is. Remember there was a time when too
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was a Slam dunk number one guy. He's the number
of guys, the greatest thing ever. And then now here
we are with this, and then we watched Justin Field's
light up Clemson. I love that game because there was
a lot of fun watching that game. Kid comes in
the league, what if he starts to struggle? Then you
remember Sam Donald was going to be a slam number
one pick. Now you don't even know the Jets one
Like it's it's this disposable cup nature of of quarterbacks
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with fan bases. Frankly personally, I think it's completely ridiculous.
And it probably doesn't help that the Dolphins took two
at five and Justin Herbert comes off at six, and
so these guys are inextricably linked forever, just like Trabinsky
and Mahomes and Deshaun Watson will be extricably linked from
that draft, just how it is. But I I don't
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have any issue at all with with what you know
Chris Greer said, are building around to us. I think
the kids got talent and people just need to chill
out and let him develop a little bit. If people
jumped all over Josh Allen, his fort Josh Allen put
up when you look at the numbers his rook year
put up some pretty good numbers. He made so many
bone head awful place that first year, it was ridiculous.
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If he was playing this year in Miami, they'd probably
be like, I don't know if you need this guy? Maybe, yeah.
I think the only the only pushback I would give
you is I'm with you. But we were told and
maybe you were told something like we were told that
like yeah, look he's not that big, he left handed,
he's not crazy athletic, but man, he's really advanced in
terms of his football, Like he he's really accurate, and
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he can he can hit you. He can hit you
for a dagger, and like everything was north and south
and nothing was east and west. And he looked small,
he looked really not athletic. And you know, I'll give
him the pass with the hip and and their hesitance
with the hip, but I just didn't see him driving
the football down the field. And it almost felt like
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either he couldn't so they didn't call them, or everything
was a checkdown. And the checkdowns are usually for guys
that are late in their career, not early in their career. Okay,
but here, here's here's the surrounding talent in Miami. Okay,
go back and look look who was Yeah, I got
a lot of the time. I mean a lot of
the time. I don't want to I'm not gonna say
that there's a garbage on the field, okay, because these
are all professional athletes. They are all you know, everybody's
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good like whatever. But it wasn't always the A squad. Okay,
there was a lot of B and C level of guys.
They're on the field with him. Nobody gives him credit
for that. Nobody wants to talk about now. In the
evaluation process, when you talk to personnel, guys who even
liked him, we were like, hey, you know, this evaluation
is pretty tough because there are a lot of clean
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pockets when we look at it, and oh, by the way,
there are three first round wide receivers. He's west, and
that effects every time he's throwing the ball. Guy's ten
yards open, like that absolutely affects us. He plays with
the dominant defense, plays the greatest college coach in history.
All these things affect, you know, this process. But everybody
believed he's got palent. You just gotta You're gonna have
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to there's gonna be a bigger learning curve than people expect.
I would say, if you go back and anybody's like,
it was just the launching pad with him and he
was going to hit the ground, revolutionized things from the
ground running, I don't think I was accurate. And I
don't remember anybody, you know saying even the people really
loved him, the south of the you know, the Southwest Scouts,
Southeast Scouts, you know, whoever, the National Scouts, anybody who
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had him. UM felt like it was just an absolute
perfect evaluation on him because the tape was so difficult.
But God give him, give him two years. Okay, can
we just give him two years? Doug Otlive Show here
on Fox Sports Trader Charis Robinson joining us. Um, Okay,
what's what's the fallout from? Uh? From Sunday Night in Philadelphia? Like, I,
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I mean, I just really quickly, like I kind of
think Wentz ends up being a bit of the winner
because it looks like Doug Peterson doesn't have the locker room,
you know, like guys can say they liked Jalen Hurts
better than Sudfeld, but Jalen Hurts is not the guy.
And I think Wentz, who was in a really tough
spot and the only thing holding the Philadelphia was the contract,
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I kind of think he won something they can't win
without him, and that the team does think. And Peterson
is a little bit over his in over his head
in terms of maybe maybe not the decision to play Sudfeld,
but how he made those decisions didn't come off well.
I don't think you can say once. I don't think
you say Hurts is the guy yet. I don't think
you can say that. I and I think that you
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know he the drive before he gets pulled in this
ridiculous situation, scores a touchdown. I I thought, okay, things
are starting to go a little more in his direction
now at this point, um, there's a little more of
a rhythm. He's got a little bit of momentum. And
then all of a sudden, he's not going in. And frankly,
I think he wasn't going in because I don't I
don't care what they want to say. They knew that
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there was a chance to win the games. The kids
stayed in there, and you know, once once, it's the winner,
because like you said, I mean, Doug Peterson's got egg
on his face right now, looks terrible of the locker room,
clearly piste Off Miles Standers comes out today and and
says something honest, you know, honest about like, hey, nobody
was happy with this decision. Well, guess what it was.
In the COVID area. We all would have been in
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the locker room, and more than one guy would have
said that there would have been a lot of blood
on the floor after that game, because reporters would have
been in there talking to guys when they were in
an emotional state. Didn't happen. They got lucky, but still
the next day you've still got guys who are like, hey, yeah,
you know, two days removed, we're still not happy with it. So, um,
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I think it's a mess there. You know, there's a
salary cap mess coming. The head coach is now got
a mess on his hand. The last quarterback who was
the franchise quarterback. When you talk to people around the league,
they're like, hey, pay attention to his turnover luck. That's
a stat. Teams keep that Carson Wentz turnover luck over
the years has been really in his favor. That catches
up the guys, you know, and that's not a good thing,
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and that's going to make it difficult for them to
deal him. You know, you don't know now what Jalen
Jalen Hurst is because you don't have a big enough
sample size. Probably could have used that time in Washington.
It's a it's a mess, man, It is a really
really it's an ugly mess. And even though I think
some people in personnel believe that they did the right
thing because of the difference between the ninth pick and
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the sixth pick is going to be pretty important this year. Um,
I don't know if those worth butchering. You know some
of the trust in that locker room that I really
think Doug patient Doug gotlip show. You're on Fox Sports Trade.
That's Charles Robinson. He is the Yahoo NFL podcast. Of course,
you can read his work Yahoo Sports. Um, okay, we
we talked a little bit about Cleveland going into Pittsburgh
(44:57):
and Pittsburgh with their backups nearly beat him. Um. I
look at Washington and I was like, man, what a
great job for Tampa. I mean, just Alex Smith can't
move back there. They can't protect him. Outside of Terry McLaurin,
there's not much on their offense. It feels like a
not a not a bye, but as close to a
bye as the as as Tampa can get. Setting up
Tampa at green Bay in a rematch of of one
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of green Bay's losses, I don't know, man, I don't
know how to skip. I'm telling you, I don't know
about this game. I don't know. I I think this
is going to be a more difficult game than people expect.
I really do. And here's why Washington's front can absolutely
hit the living hell out of quarterback. Okay, and I'm
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telling you, Tom Brady numbers are great this year, they're great.
He does not Brady gets hit. He does not like it,
and his game is impacted dramatically when he is hit
in the pocket. He's not running around against that front.
They're going to hammer him. And it's not just Chase Young,
you know, Jonathan Allen. There's a number of guys on
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that front who are gonna hit Tom Brady in this game.
So now I'll say Tampa Bay's offensive line very good.
They've kept a very clean pocket for him the most,
you know, most of the time. But the times if
you go back and look at the times where Tom
has gotten hit, he sailed some balls, he struggled. I
don't know if this is this this slam dunk that
everybody you know, I get it. I understand the record
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of Washington, I can put it. But I don't think
that front, that defensive front, is a good matchup for
Tom Brady if he if they're physical with him, I'll
bet you this sends up being a closer game that
people really think it's going to be. Baltimore gets Tennessee
again rematch him last year, um Baltimore hot winners of
five and rows. Some of that is scheduled softy in
the year. For some of that is they just played
good football. Um, what's the like that Baltimore finally gets
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Lamar off the playoffs night, He's got to be able
to throw in this game. Like to me, if you
look at his numbers over the course of this season, Um,
he hasn't. He's rarely had that. It's more sort of
him manufacturing a lot of offense. I think losing Ronnie
Stanley hurt hurt the line, but you know, continuity wise,
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I think things got better the second half of the season.
You're right, you know, schedule of softness helped. But you're
gonna play a defense that can't pressure the quarterback. They can't.
They just that Tennessee cannot get it done. It's you know, Ben,
It's dogged them all season long. And so if there's
a see if there's a game to me where I
want to see Lamar get into that passing rhythm and show, hey,
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I can put up a three yard game. You know
I can. I can navigate in the pocket, move around,
not feel like I have to take off running and
you know, get some chunk plays and like, I think
that's what Baltimore needs and I think it's there for
them in this game, and I will I will be
concerned about Baltimore if this is a game where they
have to win with Lamar Jackson running for a hundred
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and fifty yards and doing things that you know, as
he advances in the playoffs, it's teams that will have
a pass rush. You know, it's going to show that
that that's still an achilles for them. So I'm not
I'm not going to hold you to this. I'm gonna
say as of January five, two thousand twenty one, Okay, Um,
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Carson Wentz plays where next year? Oh man, oh man,
that is a good all right, hold on, I'll work yet.
Sam Donald plays where, um, you know Matt Stafford plays where, Um,
you know you have all these Jimmy Garoppolo, Jimmy Garppolo
New England. Man, you're asking me some you're asking me
(48:38):
like some next week questions. But like every Sam Donald
plays where this is the chessboard that get like Sam
Donald to Denver, Sam Donald to San Francisco, Sam Donald,
I would say, if we're if we're looking at past
evaluations and connections and relationships, yes, I would say, um,
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I would put I would put Sam Donald in Denver
because they had a high evaluation. But remember John L.
John always not the general manager anymore. I liked him
a lot. I don't know. I don't know how much
that change is that UM I would say, UM, I
would put once with Indianapolis, even though you hear conflicting
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things out of that. But again, this is if. I
don't think if they have to give up any assets.
You know, they got the cap space. It makes so
much sense with the coach there, it's really only a
two year commitment to a guy like once they need
a quarterback, there's the need. They don't have the position
to get a quarterback. UM. So it makes some sense
to me that that would be their first phone call
Garoppolo in New England. I I if they can find
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another quarterback in San Francisco. UM, and if that, I
don't know, if that's Matt Stafford or you know whoever.
I could see Garoppolo back in and he would There's
no doubt in my mind he would absolutely love to
have at Ryan back. I don't think there's any question.
But I don't know financially if they can they can
make that work. San francis problem with San Francisco is
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there's just not a ton of money to really make
something work out, so it's gonna be a little more difficult.
But I do, like Garoppolo in New England, like, I
think that there's a chance that's going don't have to
give up a ton again, and I think that that's
something they would take a stab at. It's gonna be fun.
NFL has become the NBA with all this movement. They
all the NFL, now whatever, gonna be like the NBA,
Like and you don't do you know what it is here?
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Here's the crazy thing is like people you have people
who are getting into general manager jobs who don't have
that old mindset that it used to be like we
can't move guys or we can't you know, we can't
you know, take guys in and out of the rosters
or swap pieces out. I think you're it's you're seeing
some of it is a new era of sort of
general managers who are like, now, you know what, yeah,
(50:49):
we can absolutely swap pieces and we're not going to
you know, protect every single draft pick we have. And
I think it's a really good observation. I think a
lot of that has to do with some of the
change in mentality the general managers in yeah, you know
it is. The NFL has become like Survivor. Remember the
TV show Survivor, right where it's all about alliances, you know,
and if your quarterback coach or head coach or your
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d M the guy who valued you know that that's
where you that's where you guy. It's probably all he's
been that way, but I was. My son's gotten super
into watching old Survivors and he's like, this is this
is not like real life. Is like actually, it's completely
like real life. More more son, you ever want to
want to admit Charles, Happy New Year, Tea, thanks for
joining us, Enjoy wild Card weekend and we'll talk to
you next week. Absolutely, stay safe time