May 31, 2021 • 40 mins
Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres, in for Doug Gottlieb, discuss Aaron Rodgers' trade value, and Dan tells you why now is the best possible moment for the Packers to trade the reigning MVP. The guys tell you which landing spots would be the best for Julio Jones. MLB Network Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the guys to talk doctored baseballs, Shohei Ohtani, and Marcell Ozuna. Plus, a Hall of Famer is upset with Kyrie Irving!
Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Doug got Leave Show podcast.
Be sure to catch us live every week day three
to six Eastern twelve to three Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Doug got Leave Show
at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live
every day on the I Heart Radio app by searching
fs R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Double Joseph
(00:27):
NBA playoff action tonight, we could see the Wizard season
come to an end. Sixers in d C to take
on Washington in about two hours, and then should be
a good one in Memphis, Jazz and Grizzlies going at
it again. We've been talking a lot of hoops. Gonna
talk to him. NFL will discuss Julio Jones situation with
the Falcons and how long he could be a Falcon.
(00:48):
That coming up at the bottom of the hour. Also,
Major League Baseball very busy on this Memorial Day games
going on here, there, and everywhere. Our good buddy John
morrossi Fox Sports Radio and will be contributor. Also, the
MLB Network will be joining us. That again in about
twenty minutes or so. Get Aaron on Twitter at Aaron
Underscore Tores. You can find me Dan Buyer on Twitter
(01:09):
at Dan Buyer on Fox. It is Memorial Day weekend.
Please be safe if you're traveling, Please be safe if
you're if you're still enjoying the weekend, and also please
take time out just to remember those that gave the
ultimate sacrifice that we lost and also keep their families
in our thoughts as well. On this Memorial Day tomorrow,
first day of June. Errand so the unofficial start of
(01:29):
summer is usually this weekend. You're a Northeast guy now
living in southern California. Do you end up missing the
summers in the Northeast at all? Now that you're out
here in southern California and almost every day feels like summer.
I don't want to be insensitive to anybody else's opinion
on stuff, but the whole season's thing is the dumbest
thing I've ever heard about. No, No, I'm cool. I'm
(01:51):
just gonna go. It's seventy eight degrees on February nine.
Um and Sonny, I'm good, have fun, enjoy your crispy
brown you know, leaves or whatever you know that you
love so much, the changing of the leaves, that's so incredible.
I just love when it's seventy eight and Sonny, I'll
say this, I always say it to me. The um
(02:11):
just it's not so much the heat, the warmth, but
when the sun's out every day, man, it gets you
fired up to get up and do stuff in a
way that sometimes when it's cloudy and rainy. And I
don't know exactly how Wisconsin is, but it is cloudy
and rainy an awful lot in Connecticut. Uh, it's not
nearly you know, it's not nearly as motivating. But I'll
just say this. I know that it got below freezing
(02:32):
within the last week or so on one of the nights,
which is is is not normal, But in my hometown,
that's where it was. And my mom told me that
she went to a family outing where some family members
were getting together yesterday and uh, they lit the fireplace,
so maybe yeah, well maybe seventy degrees today. Apparently it
(02:53):
was a bit cooler. Uh that had the family members
deciding that a fire you know, fireplace needed to be lit,
uh yesterday. Hopefully that's not a sign of of what
could be a bad summer. I am the exact opposite
of you. I miss the changing of the seasons. I
missed the leaves, you know what I miss most. And
and there's there's something about the fall and football season
(03:16):
that that really gets me in that in that field.
And it's the first couple of weeks of September where
I'm from, and I'm not sure if it's the case,
uh where you're from in the Northeast are and but
there are hot days there, like I remember wearing shorts
to school. You know, in September tenth, you're still getting
some of that summer weather, but you know, there's a
turn in late September where you kind of you know,
make your turn towards fall and then towards the winter.
(03:38):
But there's also the forty degree day in late February
early March where it hasn't been above forties since like
mid November, where the snow is melting and it's a mess,
but it just feels because it's thirty degrees warmer than
it's been that you go out and play basketball in
shorts even though it's forty two degrees. That's the stuff
that I miss about about the Midwest weather or the
(04:01):
Northeast weather that that we all love. I will say
that is a very real thing for people who have
not lived in those corners of the country where yeah,
you wake up and it's forty two and you yeah,
you you described it perfectly. I don't need to to
go further. It's just I just know that exact moment
that you're talking about, and it is always amazing. Of course, Uh,
the idea that uh, now, once you get spoiled by
(04:24):
the weather and this is a real thing as well. Uh,
you know, fifty eight degrees on February eleven in uh,
in Wisconsin feels amazing and uh, it's it's cataclysmic in
Los Angeles, that's true. And fifty eight degrees uh, And
I'll just say that in forty eight degrees in February
is different than forty eight degrees in mid October. That's also, yeah,
(04:47):
because you're you're going in the opposite direction. You're not
hitting towards winter, you're leaving winter. So there's some there's
some optimism there. I'm not sure on how much people
are optimistic in Wisconsin that Aaron Rodgers is going to
be a Green Bay pawer or quarterback. In Week one
of the season. There seems to be a continued huge
disconnect between Rogers and the team, even as much as
(05:11):
Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus he joined us earlier
in the program, says not only does he not see
Rogers playing football for Green Bay this fall, he doesn't
see Rogers playing football period, and that Green Bay wouldn't
budge in their stance. And I've thought about this position.
I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is right. I don't
(05:32):
think that Aaron Rodgers is justified in the angst that
he has. I don't think that he's handled the situation
with with great tact. If you will, I will say
this though, if you're the green Bay Packers, I think
it's time you trade Aaron Rodgers. Interesting And the reason
(05:52):
that I say that is this, and just looking at
the whole picture, looking at where you are, you the
risk of what Austin Gale set up is that Aaron
Rodgers may not play football again, may choose to not
play football. And by what he's done in the off
season in Jeopardy and going to Hawaii and and doing
(06:15):
all the fun things that he's done. Not that players
don't vacation during the time, but I think he's made
a conscious effort of showing all the things that he
has done that. Hey, life after football is there for
Aaron Rodgers. So for Green Bay to run the risk
of Aaron Rodgers being willing to walk away, I think
(06:36):
they they need to trade him, and it wouldn't be
the worst thing in the world. And the reason that
I say that is this, And I know people look
at Green Bay and say, man, without Aaron Rodgers, there nothing.
They're They're not an NFC championship team like they were
if they don't have Aaron Rodgers. I will give you that,
but I will also say this, Aaron Rodgers is going
to be thirty seven years old in NFL season. There
(07:01):
are five quarterbacks who have gone on and won Super
Bowls older than Aaron Rodgers. Uh will be at that point.
Tom Brady, we obviously know about pet Manning was one
of them. Peyton Manning didn't necessarily win a Super Bowl
at the top of his game did the two seasons
prior when he was thirty seven years old, which is
the age that Rogers would be. So you there's it's
(07:25):
been done before where you've had great years. But realistically,
if you're the green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers value is
never going to be any higher. Than it is right
now coming off of an MVP season for a team
that would want him, whether it be Denver, whether it
be the Raiders, whether whoever you could. The most that
(07:46):
you could get for Aaron Rodgers is right now, and
to avoid running the risk of just letting him walk away,
be the one to be proactive. It's not giving in
to him. It's not saying Aaron Rodgers runs our front office.
It's doing what's best for your franchise. And if he's
not going to be there and you don't get anything
in return for it, you're not doing what's best for
(08:08):
your franchise. What you did what best for your franchise
was you felt you needed to draft Jordan's Love, you
needed to draft a j Dillon, you needed to not
draft wide receivers. That's their vision. So if you're going
to stand in line and stay in line and tell
that line like Brian Goodakuin's in the Packers front office
is of what's doing best for the Packers, the best
thing for them would be to trade to Aaron Rodgers
(08:30):
because his value right now is never going to be
any higher than it is coming off of an m
v P season. So I agree in part of what
you're saying. I do agree with value is never gonna
be higher. I do agree that his window to be
a super Bowl winning quarterback where where he is playing
at an m VP level smaller uh is probably smaller
(08:50):
than we give it credit for. But that Super Bowl
wind note is still open. And so to me, I
still lean more on the you gotta figure out a
guy to a way to make this guy happy. And
I'll just say this really quickly, and I know it's
it's kind of a little bit of a bizarre parallel,
but a year ago, we all watched the Last Dance
and Michael, you know, Michael Jordan was kind of at
(09:10):
that same age where you know, three straight finals runs, Um,
you know, can you really do it again? This guy's
getting older, That guy's getting older. Well, guess what we
all came out of that documentary saying that Jerry Ryan's
doorf and Jerry Krauss were wrong. And if Aaron Rodgers
does continue, if he does have success somewhere else or
beyond that, if the Packers never find any equivalent to
(09:31):
Aaron Rodgers, and it is really hard to find good
quarterbacks in this league. Gasco team like the Jets, like
the Panthers, what they've gone through the last two or
three or four years, Uh, coming out of the Cam
Newton era. I just I still think you've got to
find there's there's just not that many guys that can
do what he do, assuming that you think he can
still do it for more than a year or two,
(09:52):
there there isn't there isn't and and and by the way,
I gave Aaron Rodgers a year. He's thirty seven right now.
He turns thirty eight in December. Even more reas and
why I think they should do it. For everything that
you said, I understand that. Ask the other teams what
life is like. The unfortunate reality for Green Bay is
that they may have to experience that scenario without even
(10:14):
making the decisions for themselves. Don't leave it in Aaron
Rodgers court to say, all right, Aaron Rodgers, you decaid
if you want to come back or not. It's that's
where that's where if you believe what what you are
doing and what you have done. And I and I
find it, I find it so interesting that people are
(10:35):
just you know, they're so critical about Aaron Rodgers not
knowing what the packers were doing with the draft pick
when there's no guarantee that Jordan's love would even be
the heir apparent, and and and I just I don't
I understand, Like, you know, the Vikings told Kirk Cousins
that they were gonna take Kellen Mond at that time.
(10:57):
I don't know if they call him and said, hey,
we're gonna take Justin Field, you know, or try to
trade up and take Justin Fields. I just don't know
what the Packers actually oh Aaron Rodgers and if if
if he's still holding onto that grudge, you know, to me,
that's an Aaron Rodgers problem. And this isn't gonna be
the only problem that they'd have to deal with if
(11:18):
if he comes back, if Aaron Rodgers doesn't like something
that's going on, guess what Aaron Rodgers is gonna speak
out and say, I don't like this and I don't
like that. It may not end up being in wins
or losses. But to think that Aaron Rodgers is gonna
come back and lead the team to a Super Bowl
or lead them to another NFC championship game after all
of this, I think that's like the least likely option,
(11:40):
maybe the most likely option. Is him ending up just
not wanting to play from what Austin Gale told us earlier,
and is a sentiment that I hear more and more.
I just think if you're a Green Bay, maybe you
don't run the risk of that happening. Maybe you get
your boatload of first round picks and end up looking
out for the franchise and say, hey, you know what,
Aaron Rodgers put us in a place that we had
(12:02):
to make this decision. Put it on Aaron rodgers shoulder,
just like it's kind of like what they did with
Brett Farve and Brett Farve, you know, being like, all right,
we need to give Aaron Rodgers these reps. Farb's gonna retire.
Farve ends up coming back to we kind of moved on.
The packers have to do it's best for the packers,
And right now I think that move is trading Aaron
Rodgers and getting what you can for him before he
(12:24):
leaves you high and dry and empty with no draft
picks or compensation. It's just it's a totally different deal. Uh,
you know, It's just it's so unique. And again, I
think the biggest question that nobody has the answer to
is is there anything that you can do to fix
the relationship with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, obviously we know
about the relationship with the GM and all that kind
of stuff, but it's clear they're not going to be
(12:45):
firing anybody. But what can you do? What? And maybe
we're just at the point where we are at a
point of no return. I would still push back a
little bit on on the window being closed or the opportunity, uh,
you know, the least likely thing to happen is for
them to be in contention again next year. I think
part of it is the town on that roster. I
think part of it is a division that they play in.
(13:06):
So I understand the sentiment, and I'm not even saying
that it's the wrong sentiment. I'm just saying that, you know,
I just you gotta figure out go ahead, and no, no,
I I was and and not to interrupt, I still
think like the Patriots weren't wrong and moving on from
Tom Brady, even though Brady goes and wins the Super
Bowl with the Buccaneers, I don't know if the Patriots
(13:26):
would have won a Super Bowl if Tom Brady was
there last year. I don't think that they would have
not what they're opted outs and not with their situation
as it is, so you figure out a way to
move ahead. If Bill Belichick wins three super Bowls with
Mac Jones as his quarterback, was it the right move
and moving on from Tom Brady? Yeah? Probably, you know. So,
so the one or two seasons that Green Bay may
(13:48):
not get of success without Aaron Rodgers, and if he
goes to Denver and wins the Super Bowl, it's the
same thing with the Tom Brady situation. It's just that
Green Bay's gotta look out for themselves and maybe, you
know what, in the long run, it will come together.
The problem is is I just don't think that they
can run the risk of being left high and dry
with nothing to show for it. So if Aaron Rodgers
(14:10):
isn't gonna look out for the Packers, then the Packers
have to look out for themselves. And that's why I
think ending up trading him and making that move is
really the best thing, because if he wants to do Jeopardy,
if he wants to do all those other things and
it ends up leaving green Bay high and dry, the
Packers are gonna be in a much worse situation all
because they seemingly, uh, we're trying to I guess cater
(14:34):
to to Aaron Rodgers. I think they put themselves in
a just a really really dangerous spot. And if you
can get the value for what he is coming off
of an m v P season, you can still get
quite a haul and draft picks and resetting a franchise. Well,
that part is a thousand percent correct in terms of
you know, it will position you said it will position
you nicely. You still gotta take advantage of all those
draft picks and use them appropriately. But I'll say this,
(14:57):
it doesn't seem like either side is really backing down.
So you know, it's gonna get very interesting here, especially
as we hit June one, is the the Caps stuff
kind of changes a little bit. It's gonna be fascinating
to watch. I'll I know we gotta take a time out,
but I will ask you this. If they cave to
Aaron Rodgers give him his contract the way that they
want to be, do you think everything would be all
(15:20):
good in Green Bay between Rogers and the packer. And
that is the other variable that cannot be answered because
you brought up a great point earlier, which is this
is not his first time we had the Mike McCarthy situation.
We have this situation his parents, the point that Austin
brought up earlier in the show as our guest. So
it's not as though you smoothed this one out. Everything's
gonna be hunky dory going forward. Uh So it's a
(15:42):
great point by Yeah, I think that I think there
would be something else that would pop up then you
have to deal with again. Get aeron on Twitter at
Aaron Underscore Tores. You can find me on Twitter at
Dan Buyer. On Fox, is baseball going back in time
with a big, big problem on their hands or their
wrist or their cap lid or their wrist band doctoring
(16:06):
Baseball's is back kind of We'll talk about it next
year on Fox. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I
Heart Radio app The Gotlip Show Here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Dan Buyer, He's Aaron Torres as we sit in
(16:27):
for Doug today. Glad to have you with us on
this Memorial Day. If you're traveling, please be safe, sure
the roads are busy everything's been busy this Memorial Dave,
you noticed that at all this this weekend. Uh you
talked about arenas being full, errand people out, and about
taking full advantage of of relaxed restrictions and trying to
get back to uh, trying to get back to some
(16:48):
normal life. And there's no doubt about it. It's great
to see. I'm glad. Even people that three or four
or five months ago weren't comfortable doing a lot of stuff,
I see them on social media, uh, you know, out
family friends. So I'm very happy to see it. The
I'm very happy to see the Brewers just top the
Tigers and ten innings. Perfect segue. As we welcome in
our good buddy from the MLB Network at Fox Sports Radio.
(17:11):
MLB contributor John Morrossi joins the program on this Memorial Day.
Hello John, how are you? Dan? Aaron, I'm doing great.
The very best wishes to you and your families. And yes, Dan,
congratulations to your home state. On that Brewers Tigers still
that you just mentioned, Well, let's get right to it.
Our Burns and Woodroffe the next Cofax in Drysdale. I
(17:32):
think that's the question everybody wants to know they may
well be. Now, I will say this, Dan, in all fairness,
I do not see a a lineup tandem in Milwaukee
currently that would put them on the same wavelength as
Molder and Young that uh, and so they're still working
their way up to that status. But I think on
(17:53):
the mound, if you go one to three, and if
you add Freddie Peralta to that conversation, and you add
in their bullpen with Hater, that is gonna be a
tough team to deal with's going forward. Now, I think
you you look at overall one through depth. The Cubs
have actually been the best team in that division of
(18:13):
recent weeks, and at the moment are actually tied for
first place with the Cardinals. So the NL Central is
certainly near and dear to our hearts. Love the Brewers pitching,
but I need to see more offense when you consider
their run differential on the year is still negative. I
need to see more production Dan, offensively before I put
them in the same class as the Cardinals. Are Cubs
(18:36):
actually win that division. Yaunt and Molly could hit better
than the Brewers do right now if they were playing
that That is not mine, my friend. My apologies by
the way to the other great duos of Johnson Shilling,
maybe a Maddox Glavin if you will. But I have
to pay off the teas and and I just wanted
(18:56):
to start with the Brewers joke. But doctor in Baseball's
like this, just is this back and were back into
the late eighties again? Is this now a real thing
that we should be concerned about in Major League baseball? Well,
then here's where I come down on this. To me,
it is not a simple or narrow issue. It is
(19:18):
a broad issue. And I really think that Mike schelt
who is who is a young old school baseball guy,
uh put it very eloquently in the last week or
so when it came to Joe West and Geo gayegos
about when the time and place is to make a
stand on this issue. And Mike Schiltz point is that
(19:40):
it is broad. The issue is pervasive and prevalent around baseball.
But the question is, now, what do you do about it?
What is a fair punishment to something that is that
is quite literally against the rules. Do you change the
rule rules? Do you change the enforcement of the rules.
(20:03):
Baseball right now is discerning what the proper path forward is.
They're they're collecting information via the Baseball's via other means
about how prevalent this issue is and precisely what kind
of advantage is being granted. I think that if you
had an anonymous Major League Baseball offensive player on the
(20:27):
show right now, that person would say to us, some
small bit of grip is okay insofar as it helps
this picture in Arizona or Colorado with the thin air,
get a better grip on the ball and not hit
me in the head with a ninety amount our ball.
(20:47):
They're okay with that, But they are not okay with
tremendous amounts of substance on the ball that allows for
what seems to be a very disingenuous amount of spin rate. Now,
what is a fair amount of spin rate? What is
a fair amount? Is it a dollop? Dollop and a half?
(21:08):
How how does one measure a dollop of substance? Whatever
it is? Bull frog, sunscreen, rosin pine tar, who knows?
It is a very very complicated, nuanced question. And the
best we can say right now is the baseball is
gathering the information that they need on it, which that which,
(21:28):
by the way, is what I think they should be doing.
Don't don't address the problem before you know what it is.
Evaluate the problem. I don't describe this as an emergency,
but it is one of many issues that exists in
the game right now that is probably being amplified because
of the larger conversation around oh my gosh, how do
(21:49):
we get more balls into play? How do we reduce strikeouts?
How do we make the game look like the version
of it that we fell in love with? As you
can tell, it's an issue that I'm passionate about, one
that has many different variables wrapped up in it, and uh,
it's hard to unravel it here on this Memorial Day. Well, JP,
let's get to something I think you'll probably enjoy talking
(22:12):
about a little bit more. And I ask you this
every time, but Shohyo Tani, like, what can MLB do
to get this guy more out to the public, Because
I know that the pitchings dropped off a little bit
here over the last couple of weeks. But he's an
incredible player and incredible talent doing something that I don't
think any of us have ever seen in our lifetimes.
(22:32):
I know the Angels aren't great, I get all that,
but it feels like this guy should be bigger and
more appreciated than he is. Well, it's a fair question.
I think that on some level it really fits with
the larger conversation about Mike Trouds stardom for the same franchise.
How do you make the game as as marketed as
you possibly can to a broader audience. To me, if
(22:57):
you're a baseball fan, if you are a fan of
the game broadly speaking, you are by definition a fan
of Showy Otani because he is doing something to honor
the game, change the way that we look at it
in a fashion that's simply no one since the Bambino
himself has done. Think about that sentence. We're in in
(23:19):
one and I'm talking about someone who is achieving, hitting
and pitching on a level not seen since Babe Ruth himself.
And go ahead and put in the sand loot drop
right here, the Colossus of Cloud, the King of Crash,
all those those lives from the sandlot about Babe Ruth.
I mean, this is a mystical thing that Otani is doing,
(23:40):
and and so I am excited about it what he's doing.
How do we find ways to to get a your
your quote unquote average American sports fan, more engaged with Otani.
I think that you could drop any number of names
in that same sentence. More engaged with Tatis, more engaged
with Trout when he's healthy, were engaged with Arnado in St. Louis.
(24:02):
I think that the networks are doing a very good job.
I know this that there was a deliberate effort made
last week to get one of his starts on on
television nationally. But of course there was the issue with
him getting scratched from the start because of the trans
the transportation issue in the Bay Area. So that that
I think speaks to the dilemma of this particular sport
(24:27):
is that unless it's Otani who was pitching and hitting,
if you were tuning in to watch Mike Trout's at
bats when he's healthy, it's only gonna add up to
a grand total of ten at twelve minutes of a game,
Whereas if you're gonna watch Lebron, you know that when
you turn on the TV, you're gonna be able to
watch Lebron when the Lakers are playing. It's just it's
a fundamentally different part of the game. Baseball is trying,
but there are a lot of barriers logistically that exist, Aaron,
(24:50):
and I think that some of those barriers are are
not really pliable at all. John Morossi joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio on the Doug Gottlieb Show talking MLB.
He's here in Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. I know it's
a tough situation to talk about, but the Marcelo Zuna
situation with the Braves his arrest on domestic violence charges.
(25:13):
Braves had a tough start to the season getting back
towards five hundred. Now, I I don't see you Zuna
back with the team this season, especially with the severity
of the charges. Could could be wrong on that, however,
my question to you, John is how does an incident
like that affect a team and how does it affect
the Braves specifically for his role that he had on
(25:35):
that team. Yeah, he's a difficult questions and obviously MLB
overall has has taken I think a very strong stance
against domestic violence in recent years when you consider the
length of some of the suspensions that were handed out,
most recently Sam Dison this year for the entire season,
and in this case, obviously, as it's been reported in Georgia,
(25:58):
this was witnessed by police ease, So the assault itself
being witnessed by police does I think make this a
more a more serious situation, at least from the standpoint
of what could be done from a criminal justice standpoint,
but also broadly speaking about the game, we have a
very firm account publicly of what has happened, which I
think makes the um makes the reaction from the Braves
(26:21):
all the more crucial um within their own clubhouse, uh
certainly within their community about how you have to take
a stand against domestic violence. So I think that every
team handles a situation adversity in a different way. But
I do know the Braves are a club that's always valued.
They're involving with the community what they represent, and I
(26:44):
think this is where the leaders in that clubhouse, those
who really dictate who they are as an organization. They've
got a very strong manager in Brian Smtger. I think
that in Freddie Freeman, obviously one of the veteran leaders
of that team. You have to, I think, collectively say, listen,
this is a situation. What one of our players did.
These these horrible actions were outside of our control. Well
(27:04):
we can control is how we represent this organization and
the spot going forward, and I think they've got the
right amount of leaders to keep that focus on the
field as best they can. But to your point, Dan,
this was a team that was already underachieving, and I
do think that, um that they have to now redouble
their efforts and who their identity is as a group,
(27:24):
and hope that obviously that they can stack some better
today's and tomorrow's on top of each other, just to
to be able to write a better story about at
least how they're representing the team off the off the field,
but also how they're playing on the field. Alright, one
word answer, Are the Giants for real? Yes? Yes, they
are right now? And the West of course. I can't
(27:46):
even give you just one one word. I'm so excited
about it. They're a really good team that their second
right now in the n L West. The way they
played so uh along answer to a one word question,
they're real. That's two, that's two words. I can't even
count that. Ay, I'm so excited. All good, John. We
love having you, I love talking to you, and uh yeah,
(28:06):
be safe on this Memorial Day and we'll we'll do
it against soon. Thanks so much. I love the conversation,
safe travels and hey enjoy the Canadians and maple leaves
in a Game seven in my other favorite sports tonight,
I cannot wait. He's John BARROSSI fund him on Twitter,
Jo and Morossi if you didn't already know, MLB Network,
(28:27):
Fox Sports Radio contributor and also NHL contributor as well.
I love talking with with John Tors. It's so much fun.
The great thing is, you know, there's a lot of
guys that have good information, but you just can't hear
the passion in their voice. John Paul Morossi. Every time
he comes on, you can just hear how much this
guy loves baseball. I love having JPN with us. Be
(28:49):
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
Julio Jones could be dealt this week. Could uh saga
could be going on? But we do you know that
the Falcons wide receiver is on the market. Falcons have
spoken with teams now the latest of what we've heard
with Julio Jones, The Seahawks became a possible suitor. According
(29:13):
to our report from Diana Racini of ESPN yesterday, Pro
Football Talk said the Rams likely dropping out of the
pursuit of Julio Jones. When we had Austin Gale on
earlier from Pro Football Focus, he singled out the Titans
and the Patriots, UH team that teams that had uh
(29:33):
some of the better odds when it comes to Julio
Jones as being the teams that need him. Where would
you like to see Julio Jones go? If he's not
in the Falcons uniform? This ball, well one, I'd like
to see him in New England, maybe just to make
Tom Brady's head explode after the receivers that he had
that last year in New England. But you know, I
would say, I think Seattle makes sense to me. Um,
(29:56):
you know, the window is now. We know Russell Wilson
is a little bit you know, we we need I
need a little bit more help here all that stuff.
And you know I was telling a little bit about
this before the show, Dann, But I think it's a
great PR move for both sides. I mean for really
all sides. Julio Jones wants to be a winner, Russell
Wilson wants more help. And I know that that was
more about the offensive line than the skill players. But
(30:19):
from the Seahawks perspective, you can also go out there
and sell, hey, Russ, we're doing our part. Uh. You
know it just it makes sense for all sides, and
I think at the very least, not only is it
helping the team, but it is helping any pr conversation
that you're having with Russell Wilson where all of a
sudden you already have DK Metcalf, you add Julio Jones
(30:42):
Russell Wilson. Again, I know it was more about the
offensive line than the skill position guys, but but it's
kind of tough for him to say the organization isn't
helping him at a moment like that. Yeah, I mean
that that would be the the ultimate And if they
if they were to make that move, which I don't
think that they should. I don't think it's it's what
they need. But if they were to make that move,
(31:02):
you kind of go into Buffalo Bill's mode like they
did with Josh Allen and be like, all right, now,
it's not that that Buffalo's defense was atrocious. It's just
that they didn't really have a running game, and you
just put it on the shoulders of Josh Allen to
do it with his legs and his arms, and and
now with those weapons, and I mean to have to
have Julio Jones, DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and use
(31:25):
the second round pick on Dwyanne Eskridge. There would be
plenty of weapons for the Seahawks to have. I just
don't know if that's the best move for that franch.
I don't know if it's what they need. I think
on paper people would say that that's a Super Bowl contender,
But I just don't know necessarily how it works out.
And and I don't know the price that Seattle would
(31:47):
have to give Atlanta. We know that we've heard that
there's a first round pick offer on the table for
the Falcons. Some reports have refuted that the Seahawks don't
have a first round pick in two it's belongs to
the jet and and uh, that take was electric, by
the way. The the that's that's why you heard the
sizzle there. The The point is, I don't know for
(32:11):
what Seattle would have to give up if it would
be worth it, But you're right it would. It would.
It would make Russell Wilson a very very happy guy
to have that target. Also with that, it would bring
a lot of pressure, put a lot more pressure on
him to perform and to come through something that he
maybe necessarily hasn't done in the second half of the season.
(32:31):
Then we'd find out if it really is a Russell
Wilson deal or a Pete Carroll and Pete Carroll's offense
that he wants to run sort of deal. The team
that that I threw out, and I threw this out yesterday,
I think the Colts should do it. If you're going
in on Carson Wentz and being your guy, Julio Jones
would immediately be the top wide receiver on that team.
T Y Hilton is aging and O Michael Pittman Jr.
(32:52):
And uh Paris Campbell are are popular targets there, but
Julio would be like the one a guy. And you
have that offensive line, you have that running game, and
now you give Carson Wentz a legit, you know, a
legit number one wide receiver. If I'm the Colts and
would be able to keep him away from the Tennessee Titans,
who again are one of the teams, that's who I
(33:14):
think should go after Julio, Say the lucky horseshoe goes
after Julio Jones. I like that a lot, and especially
because Carson Wentz, there is an element of he did
not have a ton of help in Philly. Now, when
you turn the ball over as much as he did,
that's not an excuse, but there is also the reality
that he doesn't have much help. And it's like you said,
if you believe this is the guy now reunited with
(33:36):
Frank Reich, if this is your guy again, kind of
that Russell Wilson parallel, go ahead, get him the help
that is gonna put him in a position to succeed
and ultimately find out if he is really that guy
or not. And then you could be a marketing genius
and make Julio T shirts with the Colts Horseshoe is
the You. There you go. It would just say Julio,
but you would have the the Horseshoe is the You,
(33:59):
and they would be a huge, huge seller in Indianapolis
that Actually I'd buy one. I'm not even a Colts fan.
Actually my stepdad is a Colts fan. Maybe maybe that'd
be a Christmas gift. Yeah, there you go, There you go,
Here you go, there you go, Pops, there you go
little little Julio Jones T shirt that we came up
with as we filled in on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.
(34:20):
It is Fox Sports Radio. Get Aaron on Twitter at
Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me on Twitter at
Dan Buyer. On Fox. Oh, some former Celtics are not
too happy with Kyrie Irving. We'll talk about it next
year on Fox. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows
(34:41):
at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I
Heart Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. Hey,
it's me Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast,
Inside the Parker for twenty two minutes of piping hot
baseball talk featuring the biggest name the news makers in
the sport. Whether you believe in analytics for the eye test,
(35:04):
We've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday,
So do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the
Parker with Rob Parker on the I Heart Radio app
or wherever you get your podcast. This is the Doug
Gottlaib Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's eron Torres, I'm
Dan Buyer. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
(35:26):
Sports Radio. Getting eron on Twitter at Aaron Underscore Torres,
I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox Man college hoops has
it hasn't rested at all since Final Four? I mean,
transfer portal, this and that. Are you finally getting a break?
I mean, I mean a little bit, Aeron, and I
mean because it's been I can't remember college basketball news
(35:47):
like taking taking up a chunk of the calendar that
it has post Final four like we've had this offseason. Yes,
it's actually so really funny, and I'll try not to
board people too much with college vestball right now. But
but well, no, and the the amount of interest in
this stuff, the amount of traction that my you know
podcast got this month, my YouTube by this, by that,
(36:10):
it's unbelievable. And it just strikes me is how much
our coverage of sports has changed in the last years
or one, Like you said, college basketball was done on
April three, College Basketball conversation was done until mid November.
And I look at how we cover now the NFL combine,
forget the NFL Draft, but the NFL combine. How much
we talk about it, NBA free agency, Uh maybe some
(36:33):
in some cases more than the games themselves. And in
the college sports world, the college basketball world, this is
now a thing that people are interested in. And it's
funny because I think I've kind of been ahead of
the curve and knowing that interest, because I still see
some writers and reporters kind of scoff at it. But
it's amazing how much people care about this. I actually
think it's in a way, I think it's good for
the sport. Doug and I, Doug and I have had
(36:55):
conversations about it, and and uh yeah, I think it's good.
It's good for the it for this show. A little
bit of Ralph Irvan than the press. The press Ralps
got the headlines. We respond, what's going on? Ralph, Well, gentlemen.
The big headline really worldwide has to be Naomi Osako,
with drawing from the French Open, says she will take
(37:17):
some time away from tennis after the controversy related to
her media obligations. I didn't understand her first um, her
first post and not speaking with the media. I I know,
and maybe in the media maybe I'm coming from a
biased angle on it. I just I I couldn't necessarily relate.
(37:40):
I hope that she uh now that she's stepping away
and trying to take care of her mental health and
sorry to hear that she's she's dealing with this and
dealing with anxiety. I hope this, uh, this is really
a positive for her, because it's certainly certainly turned into
a whole big fiasco that was getting believe the Grand
(38:00):
Slam tournaments, you know, threatening the kick her out if
she doesn't talk. Hopefully she gets the help that she
deserves and maybe a decent resolution can come from all
of this. That was my quick thought as well. Dan
for people didn't see. She released a second statement today,
and I thought it was actually really well explained why
her stance was the way that it was. I wish
she had done that statement first, because I think the
(38:23):
response would have been a little different. But I also
don't blame the tennis tournaments either by saying, we have
these policies. If you believe that you have a medical
issue that you need help with, then you should be
focusing on that instead of tennis. Absolutely, uh one thing
that uh. The president of the French tendor Federation did
make a statement both in English and in French, UM
(38:43):
saying that how sad and sorry they are for Naomi.
But then he failed to take questions. He just walked away,
which most people now are pointing out the hypocrisy of
that whole thing. Um. An interesting story there. You have
talked about a little bit with the Kyrie Irving situation,
Kevin our Net and Glenn Big Baby Davis not to
(39:03):
enjoying the respect or lack thereof for the mascot at
center Court. Kevin Garnett tweeting and I'll do my best
paraphrase here. This is actually on Instagram, both of these.
So nobody gonna say anything about Kyrie stomping Lucky. We're
just gonna act like we didn't see that t F
going on. You can't do that, you can't. That's not
(39:26):
cool on no level. All of us need to be better,
for real, for real. I'm just saying good morning to all,
and I'll have a great day, Happy Memorial Day. I
get it. I I'm not as up in arms as
some people are over stepping out a piece of wood. UM,
but I get my former Celtics would do it. But
to equate throwing a water bottle at someone for stepping
(39:47):
on a piece of paint um that some people are doing.
I just don't I don't find that those are equivalent. Yeah,
I've pretty much. I see the frustration from Celtics fans
for some of Kyrie's previous actions. As you said, Dan,
throwing objects that people is not appropriate, and that's the press,
and that was the press. I did send a tweet
out about this. I don't know how many people realize,
(40:08):
but Lucky the Celtics mascots left leg is on backwards
in that logo. Check it out on Twitter. Unlucky, Unlucky Medical.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app
Thanks for listening to The Doug got Leave Show podcast.
Be sure to catch us live every week day three
to six Eastern twelve to three Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Doug got Leave Show
at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live
every day on the I Heart Radio app by searching
fs R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Double Joseph
(00:27):
NBA playoff action tonight, we could see the Wizard season
come to an end. Sixers in d C to take
on Washington in about two hours, and then should be
a good one in Memphis, Jazz and Grizzlies going at
it again. We've been talking a lot of hoops. Gonna
talk to him. NFL will discuss Julio Jones situation with
the Falcons and how long he could be a Falcon.
(00:48):
That coming up at the bottom of the hour. Also,
Major League Baseball very busy on this Memorial Day games
going on here, there, and everywhere. Our good buddy John
morrossi Fox Sports Radio and will be contributor. Also, the
MLB Network will be joining us. That again in about
twenty minutes or so. Get Aaron on Twitter at Aaron
Underscore Tores. You can find me Dan Buyer on Twitter
(01:09):
at Dan Buyer on Fox. It is Memorial Day weekend.
Please be safe if you're traveling, Please be safe if
you're if you're still enjoying the weekend, and also please
take time out just to remember those that gave the
ultimate sacrifice that we lost and also keep their families
in our thoughts as well. On this Memorial Day tomorrow,
first day of June. Errand so the unofficial start of
(01:29):
summer is usually this weekend. You're a Northeast guy now
living in southern California. Do you end up missing the
summers in the Northeast at all? Now that you're out
here in southern California and almost every day feels like summer.
I don't want to be insensitive to anybody else's opinion
on stuff, but the whole season's thing is the dumbest
thing I've ever heard about. No, No, I'm cool. I'm
(01:51):
just gonna go. It's seventy eight degrees on February nine.
Um and Sonny, I'm good, have fun, enjoy your crispy
brown you know, leaves or whatever you know that you
love so much, the changing of the leaves, that's so incredible.
I just love when it's seventy eight and Sonny, I'll
say this, I always say it to me. The um
(02:11):
just it's not so much the heat, the warmth, but
when the sun's out every day, man, it gets you
fired up to get up and do stuff in a
way that sometimes when it's cloudy and rainy. And I
don't know exactly how Wisconsin is, but it is cloudy
and rainy an awful lot in Connecticut. Uh, it's not
nearly you know, it's not nearly as motivating. But I'll
just say this. I know that it got below freezing
(02:32):
within the last week or so on one of the nights,
which is is is not normal, But in my hometown,
that's where it was. And my mom told me that
she went to a family outing where some family members
were getting together yesterday and uh, they lit the fireplace,
so maybe yeah, well maybe seventy degrees today. Apparently it
(02:53):
was a bit cooler. Uh that had the family members
deciding that a fire you know, fireplace needed to be lit,
uh yesterday. Hopefully that's not a sign of of what
could be a bad summer. I am the exact opposite
of you. I miss the changing of the seasons. I
missed the leaves, you know what I miss most. And
and there's there's something about the fall and football season
(03:16):
that that really gets me in that in that field.
And it's the first couple of weeks of September where
I'm from, and I'm not sure if it's the case,
uh where you're from in the Northeast are and but
there are hot days there, like I remember wearing shorts
to school. You know, in September tenth, you're still getting
some of that summer weather, but you know, there's a
turn in late September where you kind of you know,
make your turn towards fall and then towards the winter.
(03:38):
But there's also the forty degree day in late February
early March where it hasn't been above forties since like
mid November, where the snow is melting and it's a mess,
but it just feels because it's thirty degrees warmer than
it's been that you go out and play basketball in
shorts even though it's forty two degrees. That's the stuff
that I miss about about the Midwest weather or the
(04:01):
Northeast weather that that we all love. I will say
that is a very real thing for people who have
not lived in those corners of the country where yeah,
you wake up and it's forty two and you yeah,
you you described it perfectly. I don't need to to
go further. It's just I just know that exact moment
that you're talking about, and it is always amazing. Of course, Uh,
the idea that uh, now, once you get spoiled by
(04:24):
the weather and this is a real thing as well. Uh,
you know, fifty eight degrees on February eleven in uh,
in Wisconsin feels amazing and uh, it's it's cataclysmic in
Los Angeles, that's true. And fifty eight degrees uh, And
I'll just say that in forty eight degrees in February
is different than forty eight degrees in mid October. That's also, yeah,
(04:47):
because you're you're going in the opposite direction. You're not
hitting towards winter, you're leaving winter. So there's some there's
some optimism there. I'm not sure on how much people
are optimistic in Wisconsin that Aaron Rodgers is going to
be a Green Bay pawer or quarterback. In Week one
of the season. There seems to be a continued huge
disconnect between Rogers and the team, even as much as
(05:11):
Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus he joined us earlier
in the program, says not only does he not see
Rogers playing football for Green Bay this fall, he doesn't
see Rogers playing football period, and that Green Bay wouldn't
budge in their stance. And I've thought about this position.
I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is right. I don't
(05:32):
think that Aaron Rodgers is justified in the angst that
he has. I don't think that he's handled the situation
with with great tact. If you will, I will say
this though, if you're the green Bay Packers, I think
it's time you trade Aaron Rodgers. Interesting And the reason
(05:52):
that I say that is this, and just looking at
the whole picture, looking at where you are, you the
risk of what Austin Gale set up is that Aaron
Rodgers may not play football again, may choose to not
play football. And by what he's done in the off
season in Jeopardy and going to Hawaii and and doing
(06:15):
all the fun things that he's done. Not that players
don't vacation during the time, but I think he's made
a conscious effort of showing all the things that he
has done that. Hey, life after football is there for
Aaron Rodgers. So for Green Bay to run the risk
of Aaron Rodgers being willing to walk away, I think
(06:36):
they they need to trade him, and it wouldn't be
the worst thing in the world. And the reason that
I say that is this, And I know people look
at Green Bay and say, man, without Aaron Rodgers, there nothing.
They're They're not an NFC championship team like they were
if they don't have Aaron Rodgers. I will give you that,
but I will also say this, Aaron Rodgers is going
to be thirty seven years old in NFL season. There
(07:01):
are five quarterbacks who have gone on and won Super
Bowls older than Aaron Rodgers. Uh will be at that point.
Tom Brady, we obviously know about pet Manning was one
of them. Peyton Manning didn't necessarily win a Super Bowl
at the top of his game did the two seasons
prior when he was thirty seven years old, which is
the age that Rogers would be. So you there's it's
(07:25):
been done before where you've had great years. But realistically,
if you're the green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers value is
never going to be any higher. Than it is right
now coming off of an MVP season for a team
that would want him, whether it be Denver, whether it
be the Raiders, whether whoever you could. The most that
(07:46):
you could get for Aaron Rodgers is right now, and
to avoid running the risk of just letting him walk away,
be the one to be proactive. It's not giving in
to him. It's not saying Aaron Rodgers runs our front office.
It's doing what's best for your franchise. And if he's
not going to be there and you don't get anything
in return for it, you're not doing what's best for
(08:08):
your franchise. What you did what best for your franchise
was you felt you needed to draft Jordan's Love, you
needed to draft a j Dillon, you needed to not
draft wide receivers. That's their vision. So if you're going
to stand in line and stay in line and tell
that line like Brian Goodakuin's in the Packers front office
is of what's doing best for the Packers, the best
thing for them would be to trade to Aaron Rodgers
(08:30):
because his value right now is never going to be
any higher than it is coming off of an m
v P season. So I agree in part of what
you're saying. I do agree with value is never gonna
be higher. I do agree that his window to be
a super Bowl winning quarterback where where he is playing
at an m VP level smaller uh is probably smaller
(08:50):
than we give it credit for. But that Super Bowl
wind note is still open. And so to me, I
still lean more on the you gotta figure out a
guy to a way to make this guy happy. And
I'll just say this really quickly, and I know it's
it's kind of a little bit of a bizarre parallel,
but a year ago, we all watched the Last Dance
and Michael, you know, Michael Jordan was kind of at
(09:10):
that same age where you know, three straight finals runs, Um,
you know, can you really do it again? This guy's
getting older, That guy's getting older. Well, guess what we
all came out of that documentary saying that Jerry Ryan's
doorf and Jerry Krauss were wrong. And if Aaron Rodgers
does continue, if he does have success somewhere else or
beyond that, if the Packers never find any equivalent to
(09:31):
Aaron Rodgers, and it is really hard to find good
quarterbacks in this league. Gasco team like the Jets, like
the Panthers, what they've gone through the last two or
three or four years, Uh, coming out of the Cam
Newton era. I just I still think you've got to
find there's there's just not that many guys that can
do what he do, assuming that you think he can
still do it for more than a year or two,
(09:52):
there there isn't there isn't and and and by the way,
I gave Aaron Rodgers a year. He's thirty seven right now.
He turns thirty eight in December. Even more reas and
why I think they should do it. For everything that
you said, I understand that. Ask the other teams what
life is like. The unfortunate reality for Green Bay is
that they may have to experience that scenario without even
(10:14):
making the decisions for themselves. Don't leave it in Aaron
Rodgers court to say, all right, Aaron Rodgers, you decaid
if you want to come back or not. It's that's
where that's where if you believe what what you are
doing and what you have done. And I and I
find it, I find it so interesting that people are
(10:35):
just you know, they're so critical about Aaron Rodgers not
knowing what the packers were doing with the draft pick
when there's no guarantee that Jordan's love would even be
the heir apparent, and and and I just I don't
I understand, Like, you know, the Vikings told Kirk Cousins
that they were gonna take Kellen Mond at that time.
(10:57):
I don't know if they call him and said, hey,
we're gonna take Justin Field, you know, or try to
trade up and take Justin Fields. I just don't know
what the Packers actually oh Aaron Rodgers and if if
if he's still holding onto that grudge, you know, to me,
that's an Aaron Rodgers problem. And this isn't gonna be
the only problem that they'd have to deal with if
(11:18):
if he comes back, if Aaron Rodgers doesn't like something
that's going on, guess what Aaron Rodgers is gonna speak
out and say, I don't like this and I don't
like that. It may not end up being in wins
or losses. But to think that Aaron Rodgers is gonna
come back and lead the team to a Super Bowl
or lead them to another NFC championship game after all
of this, I think that's like the least likely option,
(11:40):
maybe the most likely option. Is him ending up just
not wanting to play from what Austin Gale told us earlier,
and is a sentiment that I hear more and more.
I just think if you're a Green Bay, maybe you
don't run the risk of that happening. Maybe you get
your boatload of first round picks and end up looking
out for the franchise and say, hey, you know what,
Aaron Rodgers put us in a place that we had
(12:02):
to make this decision. Put it on Aaron rodgers shoulder,
just like it's kind of like what they did with
Brett Farve and Brett Farve, you know, being like, all right,
we need to give Aaron Rodgers these reps. Farb's gonna retire.
Farve ends up coming back to we kind of moved on.
The packers have to do it's best for the packers,
And right now I think that move is trading Aaron
Rodgers and getting what you can for him before he
(12:24):
leaves you high and dry and empty with no draft
picks or compensation. It's just it's a totally different deal. Uh,
you know, It's just it's so unique. And again, I
think the biggest question that nobody has the answer to
is is there anything that you can do to fix
the relationship with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, obviously we know
about the relationship with the GM and all that kind
of stuff, but it's clear they're not going to be
(12:45):
firing anybody. But what can you do? What? And maybe
we're just at the point where we are at a
point of no return. I would still push back a
little bit on on the window being closed or the opportunity, uh,
you know, the least likely thing to happen is for
them to be in contention again next year. I think
part of it is the town on that roster. I
think part of it is a division that they play in.
(13:06):
So I understand the sentiment, and I'm not even saying
that it's the wrong sentiment. I'm just saying that, you know,
I just you gotta figure out go ahead, and no, no,
I I was and and not to interrupt, I still
think like the Patriots weren't wrong and moving on from
Tom Brady, even though Brady goes and wins the Super
Bowl with the Buccaneers, I don't know if the Patriots
(13:26):
would have won a Super Bowl if Tom Brady was
there last year. I don't think that they would have
not what they're opted outs and not with their situation
as it is, so you figure out a way to
move ahead. If Bill Belichick wins three super Bowls with
Mac Jones as his quarterback, was it the right move
and moving on from Tom Brady? Yeah? Probably, you know. So,
so the one or two seasons that Green Bay may
(13:48):
not get of success without Aaron Rodgers, and if he
goes to Denver and wins the Super Bowl, it's the
same thing with the Tom Brady situation. It's just that
Green Bay's gotta look out for themselves and maybe, you
know what, in the long run, it will come together.
The problem is is I just don't think that they
can run the risk of being left high and dry
with nothing to show for it. So if Aaron Rodgers
(14:10):
isn't gonna look out for the Packers, then the Packers
have to look out for themselves. And that's why I
think ending up trading him and making that move is
really the best thing, because if he wants to do Jeopardy,
if he wants to do all those other things and
it ends up leaving green Bay high and dry, the
Packers are gonna be in a much worse situation all
because they seemingly, uh, we're trying to I guess cater
(14:34):
to to Aaron Rodgers. I think they put themselves in
a just a really really dangerous spot. And if you
can get the value for what he is coming off
of an m v P season, you can still get
quite a haul and draft picks and resetting a franchise. Well,
that part is a thousand percent correct in terms of
you know, it will position you said it will position
you nicely. You still gotta take advantage of all those
draft picks and use them appropriately. But I'll say this,
(14:57):
it doesn't seem like either side is really backing down.
So you know, it's gonna get very interesting here, especially
as we hit June one, is the the Caps stuff
kind of changes a little bit. It's gonna be fascinating
to watch. I'll I know we gotta take a time out,
but I will ask you this. If they cave to
Aaron Rodgers give him his contract the way that they
want to be, do you think everything would be all
(15:20):
good in Green Bay between Rogers and the packer. And
that is the other variable that cannot be answered because
you brought up a great point earlier, which is this
is not his first time we had the Mike McCarthy situation.
We have this situation his parents, the point that Austin
brought up earlier in the show as our guest. So
it's not as though you smoothed this one out. Everything's
gonna be hunky dory going forward. Uh So it's a
(15:42):
great point by Yeah, I think that I think there
would be something else that would pop up then you
have to deal with again. Get aeron on Twitter at
Aaron Underscore Tores. You can find me on Twitter at
Dan Buyer. On Fox, is baseball going back in time
with a big, big problem on their hands or their
wrist or their cap lid or their wrist band doctoring
(16:06):
Baseball's is back kind of We'll talk about it next
year on Fox. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I
Heart Radio app The Gotlip Show Here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Dan Buyer, He's Aaron Torres as we sit in
(16:27):
for Doug today. Glad to have you with us on
this Memorial Day. If you're traveling, please be safe, sure
the roads are busy everything's been busy this Memorial Dave,
you noticed that at all this this weekend. Uh you
talked about arenas being full, errand people out, and about
taking full advantage of of relaxed restrictions and trying to
get back to uh, trying to get back to some
(16:48):
normal life. And there's no doubt about it. It's great
to see. I'm glad. Even people that three or four
or five months ago weren't comfortable doing a lot of stuff,
I see them on social media, uh, you know, out
family friends. So I'm very happy to see it. The
I'm very happy to see the Brewers just top the
Tigers and ten innings. Perfect segue. As we welcome in
our good buddy from the MLB Network at Fox Sports Radio.
(17:11):
MLB contributor John Morrossi joins the program on this Memorial Day.
Hello John, how are you? Dan? Aaron, I'm doing great.
The very best wishes to you and your families. And yes, Dan,
congratulations to your home state. On that Brewers Tigers still
that you just mentioned, Well, let's get right to it.
Our Burns and Woodroffe the next Cofax in Drysdale. I
(17:32):
think that's the question everybody wants to know they may
well be. Now, I will say this, Dan, in all fairness,
I do not see a a lineup tandem in Milwaukee
currently that would put them on the same wavelength as
Molder and Young that uh, and so they're still working
their way up to that status. But I think on
(17:53):
the mound, if you go one to three, and if
you add Freddie Peralta to that conversation, and you add
in their bullpen with Hater, that is gonna be a
tough team to deal with's going forward. Now, I think
you you look at overall one through depth. The Cubs
have actually been the best team in that division of
(18:13):
recent weeks, and at the moment are actually tied for
first place with the Cardinals. So the NL Central is
certainly near and dear to our hearts. Love the Brewers pitching,
but I need to see more offense when you consider
their run differential on the year is still negative. I
need to see more production Dan, offensively before I put
them in the same class as the Cardinals. Are Cubs
(18:36):
actually win that division. Yaunt and Molly could hit better
than the Brewers do right now if they were playing
that That is not mine, my friend. My apologies by
the way to the other great duos of Johnson Shilling,
maybe a Maddox Glavin if you will. But I have
to pay off the teas and and I just wanted
(18:56):
to start with the Brewers joke. But doctor in Baseball's
like this, just is this back and were back into
the late eighties again? Is this now a real thing
that we should be concerned about in Major League baseball? Well,
then here's where I come down on this. To me,
it is not a simple or narrow issue. It is
(19:18):
a broad issue. And I really think that Mike schelt
who is who is a young old school baseball guy,
uh put it very eloquently in the last week or
so when it came to Joe West and Geo gayegos
about when the time and place is to make a
stand on this issue. And Mike Schiltz point is that
(19:40):
it is broad. The issue is pervasive and prevalent around baseball.
But the question is, now, what do you do about it?
What is a fair punishment to something that is that
is quite literally against the rules. Do you change the
rule rules? Do you change the enforcement of the rules.
(20:03):
Baseball right now is discerning what the proper path forward is.
They're they're collecting information via the Baseball's via other means
about how prevalent this issue is and precisely what kind
of advantage is being granted. I think that if you
had an anonymous Major League Baseball offensive player on the
(20:27):
show right now, that person would say to us, some
small bit of grip is okay insofar as it helps
this picture in Arizona or Colorado with the thin air,
get a better grip on the ball and not hit
me in the head with a ninety amount our ball.
(20:47):
They're okay with that, But they are not okay with
tremendous amounts of substance on the ball that allows for
what seems to be a very disingenuous amount of spin rate. Now,
what is a fair amount of spin rate? What is
a fair amount? Is it a dollop? Dollop and a half?
(21:08):
How how does one measure a dollop of substance? Whatever
it is? Bull frog, sunscreen, rosin pine tar, who knows?
It is a very very complicated, nuanced question. And the
best we can say right now is the baseball is
gathering the information that they need on it, which that which,
(21:28):
by the way, is what I think they should be doing.
Don't don't address the problem before you know what it is.
Evaluate the problem. I don't describe this as an emergency,
but it is one of many issues that exists in
the game right now that is probably being amplified because
of the larger conversation around oh my gosh, how do
(21:49):
we get more balls into play? How do we reduce strikeouts?
How do we make the game look like the version
of it that we fell in love with? As you
can tell, it's an issue that I'm passionate about, one
that has many different variables wrapped up in it, and uh,
it's hard to unravel it here on this Memorial Day. Well, JP,
let's get to something I think you'll probably enjoy talking
(22:12):
about a little bit more. And I ask you this
every time, but Shohyo Tani, like, what can MLB do
to get this guy more out to the public, Because
I know that the pitchings dropped off a little bit
here over the last couple of weeks. But he's an
incredible player and incredible talent doing something that I don't
think any of us have ever seen in our lifetimes.
(22:32):
I know the Angels aren't great, I get all that,
but it feels like this guy should be bigger and
more appreciated than he is. Well, it's a fair question.
I think that on some level it really fits with
the larger conversation about Mike Trouds stardom for the same franchise.
How do you make the game as as marketed as
you possibly can to a broader audience. To me, if
(22:57):
you're a baseball fan, if you are a fan of
the game broadly speaking, you are by definition a fan
of Showy Otani because he is doing something to honor
the game, change the way that we look at it
in a fashion that's simply no one since the Bambino
himself has done. Think about that sentence. We're in in
(23:19):
one and I'm talking about someone who is achieving, hitting
and pitching on a level not seen since Babe Ruth himself.
And go ahead and put in the sand loot drop
right here, the Colossus of Cloud, the King of Crash,
all those those lives from the sandlot about Babe Ruth.
I mean, this is a mystical thing that Otani is doing,
(23:40):
and and so I am excited about it what he's doing.
How do we find ways to to get a your
your quote unquote average American sports fan, more engaged with Otani.
I think that you could drop any number of names
in that same sentence. More engaged with Tatis, more engaged
with Trout when he's healthy, were engaged with Arnado in St. Louis.
(24:02):
I think that the networks are doing a very good job.
I know this that there was a deliberate effort made
last week to get one of his starts on on
television nationally. But of course there was the issue with
him getting scratched from the start because of the trans
the transportation issue in the Bay Area. So that that
I think speaks to the dilemma of this particular sport
(24:27):
is that unless it's Otani who was pitching and hitting,
if you were tuning in to watch Mike Trout's at
bats when he's healthy, it's only gonna add up to
a grand total of ten at twelve minutes of a game,
Whereas if you're gonna watch Lebron, you know that when
you turn on the TV, you're gonna be able to
watch Lebron when the Lakers are playing. It's just it's
a fundamentally different part of the game. Baseball is trying,
but there are a lot of barriers logistically that exist, Aaron,
(24:50):
and I think that some of those barriers are are
not really pliable at all. John Morossi joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio on the Doug Gottlieb Show talking MLB.
He's here in Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. I know it's
a tough situation to talk about, but the Marcelo Zuna
situation with the Braves his arrest on domestic violence charges.
(25:13):
Braves had a tough start to the season getting back
towards five hundred. Now, I I don't see you Zuna
back with the team this season, especially with the severity
of the charges. Could could be wrong on that, however,
my question to you, John is how does an incident
like that affect a team and how does it affect
the Braves specifically for his role that he had on
(25:35):
that team. Yeah, he's a difficult questions and obviously MLB
overall has has taken I think a very strong stance
against domestic violence in recent years when you consider the
length of some of the suspensions that were handed out,
most recently Sam Dison this year for the entire season,
and in this case, obviously, as it's been reported in Georgia,
(25:58):
this was witnessed by police ease, So the assault itself
being witnessed by police does I think make this a
more a more serious situation, at least from the standpoint
of what could be done from a criminal justice standpoint,
but also broadly speaking about the game, we have a
very firm account publicly of what has happened, which I
think makes the um makes the reaction from the Braves
(26:21):
all the more crucial um within their own clubhouse, uh
certainly within their community about how you have to take
a stand against domestic violence. So I think that every
team handles a situation adversity in a different way. But
I do know the Braves are a club that's always valued.
They're involving with the community what they represent, and I
(26:44):
think this is where the leaders in that clubhouse, those
who really dictate who they are as an organization. They've
got a very strong manager in Brian Smtger. I think
that in Freddie Freeman, obviously one of the veteran leaders
of that team. You have to, I think, collectively say, listen,
this is a situation. What one of our players did.
These these horrible actions were outside of our control. Well
(27:04):
we can control is how we represent this organization and
the spot going forward, and I think they've got the
right amount of leaders to keep that focus on the
field as best they can. But to your point, Dan,
this was a team that was already underachieving, and I
do think that, um that they have to now redouble
their efforts and who their identity is as a group,
(27:24):
and hope that obviously that they can stack some better
today's and tomorrow's on top of each other, just to
to be able to write a better story about at
least how they're representing the team off the off the field,
but also how they're playing on the field. Alright, one
word answer, Are the Giants for real? Yes? Yes, they
are right now? And the West of course. I can't
(27:46):
even give you just one one word. I'm so excited
about it. They're a really good team that their second
right now in the n L West. The way they
played so uh along answer to a one word question,
they're real. That's two, that's two words. I can't even
count that. Ay, I'm so excited. All good, John. We
love having you, I love talking to you, and uh yeah,
(28:06):
be safe on this Memorial Day and we'll we'll do
it against soon. Thanks so much. I love the conversation,
safe travels and hey enjoy the Canadians and maple leaves
in a Game seven in my other favorite sports tonight,
I cannot wait. He's John BARROSSI fund him on Twitter,
Jo and Morossi if you didn't already know, MLB Network,
(28:27):
Fox Sports Radio contributor and also NHL contributor as well.
I love talking with with John Tors. It's so much fun.
The great thing is, you know, there's a lot of
guys that have good information, but you just can't hear
the passion in their voice. John Paul Morossi. Every time
he comes on, you can just hear how much this
guy loves baseball. I love having JPN with us. Be
(28:49):
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
Julio Jones could be dealt this week. Could uh saga
could be going on? But we do you know that
the Falcons wide receiver is on the market. Falcons have
spoken with teams now the latest of what we've heard
with Julio Jones, The Seahawks became a possible suitor. According
(29:13):
to our report from Diana Racini of ESPN yesterday, Pro
Football Talk said the Rams likely dropping out of the
pursuit of Julio Jones. When we had Austin Gale on
earlier from Pro Football Focus, he singled out the Titans
and the Patriots, UH team that teams that had uh
(29:33):
some of the better odds when it comes to Julio
Jones as being the teams that need him. Where would
you like to see Julio Jones go? If he's not
in the Falcons uniform? This ball, well one, I'd like
to see him in New England, maybe just to make
Tom Brady's head explode after the receivers that he had
that last year in New England. But you know, I
would say, I think Seattle makes sense to me. Um,
(29:56):
you know, the window is now. We know Russell Wilson
is a little bit you know, we we need I
need a little bit more help here all that stuff.
And you know I was telling a little bit about
this before the show, Dann, But I think it's a
great PR move for both sides. I mean for really
all sides. Julio Jones wants to be a winner, Russell
Wilson wants more help. And I know that that was
more about the offensive line than the skill players. But
(30:19):
from the Seahawks perspective, you can also go out there
and sell, hey, Russ, we're doing our part. Uh. You
know it just it makes sense for all sides, and
I think at the very least, not only is it
helping the team, but it is helping any pr conversation
that you're having with Russell Wilson where all of a
sudden you already have DK Metcalf, you add Julio Jones
(30:42):
Russell Wilson. Again, I know it was more about the
offensive line than the skill position guys, but but it's
kind of tough for him to say the organization isn't
helping him at a moment like that. Yeah, I mean
that that would be the the ultimate And if they
if they were to make that move, which I don't
think that they should. I don't think it's it's what
they need. But if they were to make that move,
(31:02):
you kind of go into Buffalo Bill's mode like they
did with Josh Allen and be like, all right, now,
it's not that that Buffalo's defense was atrocious. It's just
that they didn't really have a running game, and you
just put it on the shoulders of Josh Allen to
do it with his legs and his arms, and and
now with those weapons, and I mean to have to
have Julio Jones, DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and use
(31:25):
the second round pick on Dwyanne Eskridge. There would be
plenty of weapons for the Seahawks to have. I just
don't know if that's the best move for that franch.
I don't know if it's what they need. I think
on paper people would say that that's a Super Bowl contender,
But I just don't know necessarily how it works out.
And and I don't know the price that Seattle would
(31:47):
have to give Atlanta. We know that we've heard that
there's a first round pick offer on the table for
the Falcons. Some reports have refuted that the Seahawks don't
have a first round pick in two it's belongs to
the jet and and uh, that take was electric, by
the way. The the that's that's why you heard the
sizzle there. The The point is, I don't know for
(32:11):
what Seattle would have to give up if it would
be worth it, But you're right it would. It would.
It would make Russell Wilson a very very happy guy
to have that target. Also with that, it would bring
a lot of pressure, put a lot more pressure on
him to perform and to come through something that he
maybe necessarily hasn't done in the second half of the season.
(32:31):
Then we'd find out if it really is a Russell
Wilson deal or a Pete Carroll and Pete Carroll's offense
that he wants to run sort of deal. The team
that that I threw out, and I threw this out yesterday,
I think the Colts should do it. If you're going
in on Carson Wentz and being your guy, Julio Jones
would immediately be the top wide receiver on that team.
T Y Hilton is aging and O Michael Pittman Jr.
(32:52):
And uh Paris Campbell are are popular targets there, but
Julio would be like the one a guy. And you
have that offensive line, you have that running game, and
now you give Carson Wentz a legit, you know, a
legit number one wide receiver. If I'm the Colts and
would be able to keep him away from the Tennessee Titans,
who again are one of the teams, that's who I
(33:14):
think should go after Julio, Say the lucky horseshoe goes
after Julio Jones. I like that a lot, and especially
because Carson Wentz, there is an element of he did
not have a ton of help in Philly. Now, when
you turn the ball over as much as he did,
that's not an excuse, but there is also the reality
that he doesn't have much help. And it's like you said,
if you believe this is the guy now reunited with
(33:36):
Frank Reich, if this is your guy again, kind of
that Russell Wilson parallel, go ahead, get him the help
that is gonna put him in a position to succeed
and ultimately find out if he is really that guy
or not. And then you could be a marketing genius
and make Julio T shirts with the Colts Horseshoe is
the You. There you go. It would just say Julio,
but you would have the the Horseshoe is the You,
(33:59):
and they would be a huge, huge seller in Indianapolis
that Actually I'd buy one. I'm not even a Colts fan.
Actually my stepdad is a Colts fan. Maybe maybe that'd
be a Christmas gift. Yeah, there you go, There you go,
Here you go, there you go, Pops, there you go
little little Julio Jones T shirt that we came up
with as we filled in on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.
(34:20):
It is Fox Sports Radio. Get Aaron on Twitter at
Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me on Twitter at
Dan Buyer. On Fox. Oh, some former Celtics are not
too happy with Kyrie Irving. We'll talk about it next
year on Fox. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows
(34:41):
at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I
Heart Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. Hey,
it's me Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast,
Inside the Parker for twenty two minutes of piping hot
baseball talk featuring the biggest name the news makers in
the sport. Whether you believe in analytics for the eye test,
(35:04):
We've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday,
So do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the
Parker with Rob Parker on the I Heart Radio app
or wherever you get your podcast. This is the Doug
Gottlaib Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's eron Torres, I'm
Dan Buyer. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
(35:26):
Sports Radio. Getting eron on Twitter at Aaron Underscore Torres,
I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox Man college hoops has
it hasn't rested at all since Final Four? I mean,
transfer portal, this and that. Are you finally getting a break?
I mean, I mean a little bit, Aeron, and I
mean because it's been I can't remember college basketball news
(35:47):
like taking taking up a chunk of the calendar that
it has post Final four like we've had this offseason. Yes,
it's actually so really funny, and I'll try not to
board people too much with college vestball right now. But
but well, no, and the the amount of interest in
this stuff, the amount of traction that my you know
podcast got this month, my YouTube by this, by that,
(36:10):
it's unbelievable. And it just strikes me is how much
our coverage of sports has changed in the last years
or one, Like you said, college basketball was done on
April three, College Basketball conversation was done until mid November.
And I look at how we cover now the NFL combine,
forget the NFL Draft, but the NFL combine. How much
we talk about it, NBA free agency, Uh maybe some
(36:33):
in some cases more than the games themselves. And in
the college sports world, the college basketball world, this is
now a thing that people are interested in. And it's
funny because I think I've kind of been ahead of
the curve and knowing that interest, because I still see
some writers and reporters kind of scoff at it. But
it's amazing how much people care about this. I actually
think it's in a way, I think it's good for
the sport. Doug and I, Doug and I have had
(36:55):
conversations about it, and and uh yeah, I think it's good.
It's good for the it for this show. A little
bit of Ralph Irvan than the press. The press Ralps
got the headlines. We respond, what's going on? Ralph, Well, gentlemen.
The big headline really worldwide has to be Naomi Osako,
with drawing from the French Open, says she will take
(37:17):
some time away from tennis after the controversy related to
her media obligations. I didn't understand her first um, her
first post and not speaking with the media. I I know,
and maybe in the media maybe I'm coming from a
biased angle on it. I just I I couldn't necessarily relate.
(37:40):
I hope that she uh now that she's stepping away
and trying to take care of her mental health and
sorry to hear that she's she's dealing with this and
dealing with anxiety. I hope this, uh, this is really
a positive for her, because it's certainly certainly turned into
a whole big fiasco that was getting believe the Grand
(38:00):
Slam tournaments, you know, threatening the kick her out if
she doesn't talk. Hopefully she gets the help that she
deserves and maybe a decent resolution can come from all
of this. That was my quick thought as well. Dan
for people didn't see. She released a second statement today,
and I thought it was actually really well explained why
her stance was the way that it was. I wish
she had done that statement first, because I think the
(38:23):
response would have been a little different. But I also
don't blame the tennis tournaments either by saying, we have
these policies. If you believe that you have a medical
issue that you need help with, then you should be
focusing on that instead of tennis. Absolutely, uh one thing
that uh. The president of the French tendor Federation did
make a statement both in English and in French, UM
(38:43):
saying that how sad and sorry they are for Naomi.
But then he failed to take questions. He just walked away,
which most people now are pointing out the hypocrisy of
that whole thing. Um. An interesting story there. You have
talked about a little bit with the Kyrie Irving situation,
Kevin our Net and Glenn Big Baby Davis not to
(39:03):
enjoying the respect or lack thereof for the mascot at
center Court. Kevin Garnett tweeting and I'll do my best
paraphrase here. This is actually on Instagram, both of these.
So nobody gonna say anything about Kyrie stomping Lucky. We're
just gonna act like we didn't see that t F
going on. You can't do that, you can't. That's not
(39:26):
cool on no level. All of us need to be better,
for real, for real. I'm just saying good morning to all,
and I'll have a great day, Happy Memorial Day. I
get it. I I'm not as up in arms as
some people are over stepping out a piece of wood. UM,
but I get my former Celtics would do it. But
to equate throwing a water bottle at someone for stepping
(39:47):
on a piece of paint um that some people are doing.
I just don't I don't find that those are equivalent. Yeah,
I've pretty much. I see the frustration from Celtics fans
for some of Kyrie's previous actions. As you said, Dan,
throwing objects that people is not appropriate, and that's the press,
and that was the press. I did send a tweet
out about this. I don't know how many people realize,
(40:08):
but Lucky the Celtics mascots left leg is on backwards
in that logo. Check it out on Twitter. Unlucky, Unlucky Medical.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app
Host
Doug Gottlieb
Popular Podcasts
True Crime Tonight
If you eat, sleep, and breathe true crime, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT is serving up your nightly fix. Five nights a week, KT STUDIOS & iHEART RADIO invite listeners to pull up a seat for an unfiltered look at the biggest cases making headlines, celebrity scandals, and the trials everyone is watching. With a mix of expert analysis, hot takes, and listener call-ins, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT goes beyond the headlines to uncover the twists, turns, and unanswered questions that keep us all obsessed—because, at TRUE CRIME TONIGHT, there’s a seat for everyone. Whether breaking down crime scene forensics, scrutinizing serial killers, or debating the most binge-worthy true crime docs, True Crime Tonight is the fresh, fast-paced, and slightly addictive home for true crime lovers.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.