June 2, 2021 • 38 mins
Doug Gottlieb reacts to the Lakers getting thumped by the Suns in Game 5 of their opening round series and explains why Anthony Davis can't be relied upon. LeBron James isn't the same player he was just a couple years ago and the 2021 season will go down as one where his team severely underachieved. Doug chats with Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe about the Celtics making a major change in the front office. Plus, he explains why it didn't work out for Brad Stevens in Boston!
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Uh Day? What a day? Doug Gottlieb Show. Um Man,
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I just this is why I like doing I'm what
I do? You know? I had? I was getting a
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so twenty one hours ago was the last time you
heard my voice? What's happened since? While? Uh? The Lakers
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did about the opposite of what we thought right back.
It's against the wall Lebron James, that game was over
at the half um. What else happened? Oh, I don't know.
The Celtics kicked their head coach upstairs and Danny Aines retires. Oh,
and Mike Schevsky announced this will be his last season
as duke basketball coach. Not that much has happened, And
it's it's interesting because yesterday I had you, like, you
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ever get that where you have an afternoon You're like, yeah,
you're at the tweener stage where I could get a
haircut in the like the three weeks early three week
range and really feel good about where I am. But
you know, you start to cycle over early, and you
know you pay that money or other otherwise you're once
a month guy. I don't know if you're a every
two weeks trim guy. However you do it. But there's
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a couple of barbers that I generally use, and one
of them, you know, they always play a movie. It's
got a cool surround sound. It's all guys. I don't
really know the guys, so I just kind of nod
in my head, like I care about their barbershop conversation.
I don't think they know who I am. I don't
know who they are. It's good. I go with my dude. Heyes,
my son. We get our hairs, we get our haircuts,
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and we kind of laugh at the conversation we know
nothing about and watched the movie yesterday I had I
had a morning where I like, I had a window
there to get something done. So I chose to get
a haircut and went to a place. It's a well
known kind of local chain. And I sit down and
Lad He's like, oh, like eleven o'clock, this is West
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Coast time. Doug Ollip show, Fox Sports traded. I love.
What time do you have to work? I said about twelve.
It's it's a good job you don't start earlier like es.
So I kind of explained, like what do you do?
I told her what I did. It's like, oh, so,
do you like sports? It's like it's a common odd question,
but yes, I actually really like sports. So do you
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watch every game? I was like, no, I mean it's
not a reasonable way to have a life like sports
is a lot more covering sports, a lot more about
the stories, and it is sometimes actually the games. Oh
the big games like last night's Laker game is important,
And she said, like, how do you keep up with
it all? You know, one of the secretss. And I
told you guys this, I don't like to take a
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lot of time off. I just I feel like I'm
missing out. I feel like I'm missing out. I'm getting
my opinion across. So I got a bunch of things
to get to. I get to the Celtics stuff, I'll
get to the Duke stuff. Man, there's a bunch of things.
The sea change in college basketball, Damian Theard was otherworldly. Uh.
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Daniel Jeremiah is going to join us as well. In
the second hour of the show, we'll talk to NFL
and figure out any remedies he can see in the
near future. To Aaron Rodgers, Julio Jones, what makes sense, etcetera, etcetera.
But I gotta start with the with the Lakers and
something I've told you. I've told you kind of came
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to fruition the past couple of days. Look what happens
is when a guy is a great talent and he
plays alongside Lebron James and he wins the title. All
of a sudden, people start going like man, maybe he's
on Team Lebron in terms of his health and his fitness.
We also make the assessment all the time that what
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someone does on a bad basketball team, they're going to
do have a similar performance or maybe even a better
performance when surrounded by better players and a better team.
That's Dennis Shrewder. Let's start with Anthony Davis, who didn't
play last night. The end of the night belongs to
Charles Barkley. He had this to say about Anthony Davis.
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I told you Deliquas can't win this this this this series.
Forget about the championship. They can't win this series without
street clothes. I'm not even you want to explain that.
I'll call him after the street closed Davis because he's
always in street clothes, always in street close. Yeah. So look,
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I don't know. I don't know for a fact if
what you do, what you eat, your level of fitness,
your level of commitment, I don't know if it truly
affects your performance or if your body breaks down, like
sometimes it's freak things right, um and and Joel embiids like,
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you know part of this discussion as well, not because
he's not in shape this year, but years of not
being in shape probably led to his litany of injuries.
You know, we also don't know about the type of
diet Joel Embid had before he came to Florida and
then to Kansas uh and then to the NBA. Like
all all of that is the foundation of what you're
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what you're built upon, the foundation, just like your skills
as as an athlete, your body is built upon the
foundation of what you eat, how you train, how you stretch,
how your body is built, you know, and with with
your trainers, if you have a trainer. Anthony Davis is
not nearly as committed as a lebron James is to
his body, to his fitness. He just isn't. I've had
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enough people tell me that to know that it's not
just like one people going like, hey, you know, I've
had plenty of people tell me like Andy David's a
great player, but he's just one of those hoopers, like
he'll get in and he'll left weights when he has to,
but the the extra stuff, and it's just not It's
always worked for him in basketball to just go play
and work in your game and not your body, and
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not higher than the personal chef and not worry about
you know how your body always looks. But this is
much like any you have a really nice car, Gavin,
if you could buy one car right now, what would
it be? Two seater? I'm like, we're talking Lamborghini in
your Ferrari, or you more like S class Mercedes, you know,
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or an M class BMW You tell me, I like,
I like a BMW all right, a BMW M series,
like an M six, which is the two door turbo
charged right, okay, so you you buy one, it's a
ten grand, Okay? You drive around all day, you pull
into a gas station, anybody ever drive up and see
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what ninety two costs these days in California? A lot?
Do you want to give me a rough festival? Four
seventy five ish? Right? What's the what's the eight seven octane?
So you can get at you get right? Okay? So again,
let's say the gas tank holds I think they hold
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fifteen gallons, right, and and it's seventy five cents more
a gallon to get premium as opposed to regular letter
We okay with that is the spread so cents more
times when we say twenty gallons, right, So you're looking
at what are we looking at one thi undred cents, right,
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that's how much. That's how much. How many dollars more?
You're spending like fifteen dollars more to fill up a
tank of gas with premium than it is with regular. Right. Now,
keep in mind you just spent a hundred and ten
thousand dollars on a on a brand new, beautiful automobile.
But you're driving around You're like, does it run on
eight seven ramos? If you put the regular stuff in?
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Does it? I would think it will run? Yes? What
do you think, Gavin? Does it run? Yeah? I would
It definitely runs. So why put in the premium? That's
what they tell you to do. Why put in the premium?
Because the idea is, what's the point of having a
turbo charge engine fo horsepower if you're not going to
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try and get the best possible, the optimum possible performance
out of the car? Fair So you're gonna go expensive
on the car and cheap on the gas. Well, that's
the that's the conundrum for the athlete. Right, Anthony Davis
is a Ferrari, He is a an M six BMW.
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Do I know for a fact that the car won't
run as good? I do not seven octane. It probably operates,
but this the greatest likelihood you have of the car
not having knocks running getting all the performance out that
you want from a performance automobile is to put the
best stuff in. That's the difference. And while we can
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credit Lebron James for his motivation last year and his
ability to fatill tate the growth of Anthony Davis last year,
we told you that when you get to your thirties,
and he knows this, that's why he had to have
Anthony Davis. He can't carry a team on his own.
You know. He hit six threes, but most of those
were in the third quarter. They were down thirties to half,
the game was over. He's lost consecutive first round games
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for the first time in his career. And oh yeah,
by the way, Dennis Shrewder, who wanted a hundred million
dollars a couple months ago when he turned down eighty four,
guaranteed he had a donut. Last night, Oh of nine
oh four from three looked awful. The team did not
look motivated, they looked defeated, and Phoenix rubbed their nose
in it. Do I think part of it is Lebron
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being old chore. Do I think part of it is
Anthony Davis and the lack of desire to do everything
possible to get his body absolutely right. I do. I
do think that's that's a that's the strongest likely reason
that here, a super talented athlete who still relatively young's
body continues to break down. And I think that Dennis
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Shrewder is the classic. You know, every bad team has
a leading score. I don't care what you put up,
how many points you put up with the Hawks when
you're terrible, what do you do when it actually matters?
And he's gotten worse, not better? This is Lebron after
the game and we got our ask kicked. I mean
it's just that simple. Um, they did, got whatever they
wanted to get to in this game, and uh, you know,
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we gotta be better obviously if we want to force
the game seven. So obviously lots of U learn from
in his game with lots of cover. See, uh, you
know what we gotta do better going on in the
game six. But I mean they pretty much just kicked ass.
I mean, it's nothing else really to say. I love
it from Lebron. I don't know if that's defeatist or
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just matter. It's definitely matter of fact and it's honest.
But this version Lebron I love. The question is was
it just a one off? Was it the proximity in time?
Was it the fact they also, you know, you don't
have KCP, he's got a knee and he hadn't made
a shot? What? What is it? But we've gone from
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lot just last night it was and I was in
this camps like, you know, Look, I don't think the
Lakers are in a great place mentally physically, I'm not
sure they're a great team. And we can undersell Phoenix
to you all all the time, but there is just
a possibility that this is a lost season. He can't
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do it at the level consistently he used to. Now,
even if they are able to win their going seven
games plus they had to play in game, something else
is going to break down. Um, And I do think
at some point you've gotta be resigned to the fact
that the the the energy expended last year, the quick turnaround,
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the change in roster guys. We assume that a guy
puts up seventeen in game one place to put up
seventeen game another place. That's not the way it works,
and that Lebron James can be Lebron James of old.
None of these have to have been able to occur.
I mean, what a dramatic turn of events. I said
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this yesterday Friday. The Clippers were dead and the Lakers
were polishing off their rings and get ready for another
one and get ready to hang another banner. Now we're
like one Clipper win away from going. It's completely flipped.
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app what Updug gotlip Show? Fox Sports Radio? So not
a lot going on in the NBA. Huh uh? Gary
Washburn's gonna join us in Boston Globe. Um, that's uh.
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Danny Ainge was the Celtics had a basketball radiation operations
since two thousand three. Remember they made the playoffs fifteen
of eighteen years. They want a title in the last
eighteen years. Making the playoffs fifteen eighteen years is the
second most in the NBA, just behind the Spurs. But
a model organization. He's done it with draft picks. He
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obviously pulled off the Garnett move, they want a title.
He's had multiple successful head coaches. Uh. And then you know,
Brad Stevens gets kicked upstairs to run basketball operations. Eight seasons,
has a fifty five winning percentage, but seven playof appearances,
including three conference finals appearances in the past four years
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heading into this year. So I mean, look that they
took over a team that they scrapped, and he took
over a team steven said scrapped, restarted, and you know,
the Kyrie thing I think would have worked. But I
think the Kyrie injury combined with his personality mixed with
the new personalities obviously didn't work. And then the replacement
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was Kemba Walker, who was a great personality, just his
knee wouldn't wouldn't allow it to work. I think the
Gordon Hayward thing made total sense on paper. I think
in practice it's hard. It was hard because Hayward got hurt,
so he's never when he was there the guy that
he used to be, and the assumption that he's Brad
Stevens guy, he doesn't create great relationships, especially with young
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guys in the locker room. I look, I think they
had all kinds of issues Brad's a very very good
coach and an excellent man, but you have to have
with with his style. I'm not sure if it resonated
with all of their young guys like Ian Jalen Brown.
That appeared to be oil and water, which is weird
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because obviously he was part of the group that chose
to draft Jalen Brown. But Jalen's it's a tough dude
to sometimes get along with, not because he's in any
way a bad guy, but just one of those guys
who's smart and challenges everything he hears. I even think
Jayson Tatum, who Jayson Tatum will never get criticized because
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he can score. But the truth is that there's three
parts to being a superstar. Scoring is only one part.
Do you make everybody else around you better? I don't
think he does. And do you really defend? I don't
think he does. In addition to sometimes being challenged in
terms of shot selection, he's a marvelous offensive talent. But
when your best player isn't a creator for other people
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and isn't a great defender, when you have your second
best player is always challenging authority, then you have injuries
and you have some dysfunctions, so you try and do
it with better dudes are better fits, but maybe not
talent enough for a guy who's passed his prime. That's
what befell the Celtics. When we look at it in
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the grand scheme of things, we go like, you know,
he was a hell of a run, but in the
under the microscope, our expectations exceeded what they're possible output
would be. Just this. I mean, look, we talked about
them as if they're abject failures. They went to the
conference finals last year and they had a chance. They
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had several chances to win games against the Heat. Be
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Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Jamar Chase is a baller boy.
I just I just hope they can block for him.
That's that's the big thing. Gerry Washburn Joints Sister the
Boston Globe. Um, Gary, I've I've been told from people
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today like, yeah, they knew this was happening, did you.
I thought that they would have to organized station seek up.
I thought both Brad and Danny were safe in terms
of the removed from their positions. Um, I thought Ange
was stealing the end. I didn't think he was going
to retire today or get out of the game, But
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I did think that if games were to stay, they
were gonna have to be some major front office additions,
probably a couple of subtractions. And the same with Stevens
in terms of his coaching staff. There was gonna have
to be some major reconstruction up and down the organization.
What's missing there? What? Why? Why the perceived um dysfunction?
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You know, I just think it's a matter Doug of
being kind of maybe outdated. The players are younger, Um,
they don't remember Danny as a player and in that
type of thing. So their memories there's a little bit
or shorter, Their attention spans are shorter. You have to
be more hands on, Brad, you know, turn beat Red
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trying to tell these guys what to do. Sometimes they listen,
sometimes they didn't. There's a high level of frustration there.
The players got along fine off the floor, but just
didn't have any chemistry on the floor. Ames didn't help
by not, uh, you know, putting good players on this
roster come and off the bench in comparison and with Philadelphia,
Milwaukee and Brooklyn did so they got laughed. There was
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a combination. It was a failure on all levels. Some
players or had disappointing seasons, the coaching staff did not
do well, and Danny let the team down by not
making some moves and making others he shouldn't have made
um In totality, though, would you deem his tenure of success, Yeah,
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you win a championship, go to another game, seven finals?
I think over all, yeah, because I think there's been
as as we know, Doug, A lot of general managers
who have long ten years have not quite everyone a championship,
although they've been successful. So I think it's been successful.
Was the last ten years as successful could have been, No,
especially after that two thousand and thirteen trade where they got,
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you know, all those assets from Brooklyn and I was
supposed to line them up to compete for NBA finals.
One of the problems, Doug was they ran into Lebron.
You know, they went to two the Conqueror Toornals and
lost to Lebron, and then Lebron left the East, and
then I think last year was a real gut punch.
There's a third seed. They faced fifth seat Miami and
the Bubble a chance to return to the finals, and
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that probably changed the perception of everything. Even though if
they lose to the Lakers in the finals, at least
they made it. But they lose the Miami in six,
a series that got dominated and I think from then on, Doug,
everyone was on alert. He was just a disappointing ending
and that kind of put the organization back. Okay, so
who's the right fit. There's a lot of guys, Doug.
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I think you know, Sam Cassell, Chauncey Billips. Uh, if
you want to go a former coach who just got
Lloyd Pierce could be a guy he's worked with, uh,
Tatum and Brown and Kimball Walker and Marcus Smart with
USA basketball. Uh. You know, I think Brad is gonna
go outside of his box here. I don't think he's gonna,
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you know, name us his successor who could be his twin.
I don't think. I think he's gonna take a really
broad look at this, and that could mean someone like
a Becky Hammond or Carol Lawson. That's not hiring Becky Hammon, Yeah,
he's not. I I just I I understand the media guys,
you guys are in love with the Becky Hammond thing.
You're not hiring Becky Hammond, you know, it's it's whoever.
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I'm like, look, all the things that you know to
be true are in fact true. Right, they had trouble
relating to the younger players, He had trouble kind of
breaking through. They're they're not doing that with somebody who
didn't play in the NBA. Al right, So if you're
gonna circle guys and and and like, and everyone likes Lloyd,
but they're better since he's gone in Atlanta, they're not
hiring Layder. So it's it's the it's the Chauncey, Sam Cassell, uh,
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Sam Cassell, Jason Kidd. That that pool makes sense to me.
Is you gotta get somebody that that Jalen and Um
and Jason Tatum, Jalen Jason buy into. They gotta be
able to handle the rest of him. But you those
two or you're you have to have two studs ride with.
And if those two guys aren't on board, you're not
winning anything and you're not partying company with them. That
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I believe is the likely and I think he knows that.
I think Brad has has pretty good situational awareness. I'm
sure he knows. They ain't listen to me. I gotta
figure out somebody who they argant totally. And I think
that you're right. I mean, being a flier NBA player
that holds a lot of water uh in today's NBA.
And that's not exactly all the models for every coach,
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But I think that they need a good, young, rising voice,
someone who embraces analytics but not too much. Someone like
you said, that can relate to Potatum, that can relate
to Brown, but that can also be a disciplinarian in
some cases of mentor life coat uh father figure, et cetera.
And it does not hurt that the person might have
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played twelve years in the league and has been the
NBA finals, that has been where those guys want to be.
I think that's very important. I think Brad will I
think he will in to use someone a couple of
you know, uh, dark horses for the job, but I
do think he'll keep it to that um arena um.
What about the personnel. I mean, I don't think they
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can get anybody to take Kimba's contract. I would guess
the only thing they could do is move a Marcus
Smart who was an inspiring deal. Yeah, yeah, he's got
one more un he's got the most tradeable contract on
the roster. Or U let's say at Tristian Thompson. Um,
they don't have a lot of options since the free agency,
they don't have any money. They're gonna be a luxury
tax team for the Rumor, let's say if they find
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someone to take Kimba's contract, they're gonna finally take a
bad contract in return or an unwanted contract from a team.
So you're swapping let's say Kimba walking for out horsers. Okay,
if if, if, if you really want to do it
like that, someone's bad money for your bad money. Um,
you know they're gonna have to draft well, they're gonna
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have to be astute with these mid level exceptions and
pick quality free agents. You know, Danny did not do
a very good job this offseason. They were coming off
an Eastern Conference final. They added Jeff Key and Tristian
Thompson and what essentially Gordon Hayward walk for nothing when
they could have made a deal with Indiana. So, um,
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there's a lot of things that need to be done,
but not a lot of resources to do them, because
Kimba Walker's contract is not is one of the worst
at this point in the week. But John Walk got traded,
Westbrook got traded. I guess anybody can be moved, but
it's gonna be challenging. It is gonna be It's gonna
be very very challenging. Um what what what do you
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think of of Kyrie's antics? Granted, nothing welcomes or tell
somebody that should throw a plastic bottle at a guy,
but he did kind of he stoked the fire with
the with the talks about racism and then the mushing
of the nose of the leprechaun like I don't know,
I don't feel like a like Carry's looking at himself
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like he's been a victim of Boston for the past
couple of years, when I felt like he was the
one who said he was coming back before anybody even
asked Yeah, it's I mean, I think we all can
say Carry he's a confusion guy. I mean, he's just
he's just he just can't figure him out. And the
fact that I don't know why he wouldn't have beef
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with Boston. I think they treated him the way that
as much they gave him as much as he wanted.
He didn't work out. He was injured the first year
and the next year was just a lot of chaos.
On the last um for him to walk away, and
the ownership said, hey, good luck. They didn't bad mouthom publicly.
The organization wished him the best. He said he wanted
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to choose is his uh next team. He did, He
went home to Brooklyn. So I don't know why this
animosity towards Boston. I don't know why he would have
stepped on the logo like that. I don't know it's
it's it's not a situation where he actually obviously committed
to come back and then he renamed them that agreement. Um.
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So it's hard to figure out why Kyrie does with
Kyrie don. But I think you're right. I think he
wants people to believe and to perceive that he was
a victim in Boston, or that it was it was
a tough situation, or they put him through a lot,
and I didn't see it. I was their first hand.
I didn't see them putting him through a lot or
him having He just didn't. He wasn't a good leader,
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he wasn't a good number one guy, and he went
to a place that he doesn't have to be a
number one guy. He didn't have to be a team leader.
They got it. They got two other guys who can
do that. They haven't got two of the guys who
are just as proven. It's not more proven that he is.
So it's a good position for him. In Boston, he
was the lead dog, the head of the snake. It
didn't work out for him then he wasn't comfortable in
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that position. Gary, great stuff man, Thanks so much for
joining us. Uh this this is an enjoyable time and
even if losing isn't enjoyable, to enjoyable time to speculate
and to wonder what the future looks like. Thanks so much.
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Younger dude, Um, I don't is he forty? I think
he's a forty one. No, he's forty five. I thought
I saw, yeah, the same age as Brad. I don't know.
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I had a feeling it'll be somebody, a guy's former
NBA player, that's my guess. But go ahead, No, I've
got other some other names of interest when it comes
to odds. You were talking with Gary Washburn about Becky
Hammond fourteen to one are her odds? Jeff van Gundi
fourteen to one, the retiring coach Kty three to one,
Larry Bird and Tony Bennett at fifty to one, And
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how about this Rick Pattino at one hundred to one.
Wouldn't be a crazy idea to bring in Rick Petino.
I just don't think, because he's been there and working
for Brad, not the craziest idea. The other name of
the odds that I that that stood it out, and
I know you don't see this list, and I'm looking
at it. Ohio State's Chris Holtzman Uh sixty six to one.
Of course the butler, Yeah, well, Brad's former assistant. But
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he actually didn't work for Brad, but Brad got him
to go go there after he left. But yeah, I
don't see that happening. Alright, go one for one. Real
news or fake news that Celtics fan Cole buck Lee,
who was arraigned today on charges for throwing a water
bottle at Kyrie Irving, could be suspended from the University
of Rhode Island, where he attends schools are fake news
that sounds like. Yeah. Rhode Island spokesperson UH said to
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Yahoo's Sports that the matter has been referred to the
university student conduct process, which could result in sanctions ranging
from a warning to suspension. So yeah, I mean, look,
it's dumb. I'm out don't know, dear. Does the guy's
life get ruined because of it? Like, I think not
coming back for a basketball game and being shamed on
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national TV is probably enough. Do you think when he's
like sixty eight, they're not going to let him into
the arena? I just don't understand how any of that
stuff works. That's what I too, and that's not me
like he kind of looks like Peyton Peyton Pitchard too.
Sure sure, uh Peyton Pitchers Brother, why are we getting
kicked out? Grandpa? Well in I throw carrier, I ring
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because he stopped down to take space, damn it. And
if you stump in the fish water bottle at you again,
I'll just point it out. I said on Twitter yesterday
or the other day, that leg is backwards on that logo.
I the left leg. I don't understand how the left
leg could bend like that. I have no idea. It's
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like resting, It's like a it's like a yoga post.
The bigger problem is the fact that he's got the
he's got a like a gut in front and no
and he suffered from no ast him back. Very very
good real news are fake news. The Packers restructured the
contract of tiend Robert Touny in today, freeing up cap space.
It sounds for three for Dougie on this one, and
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the assumption is that frees up some cap space and
also allows Aaron Rodgers contract to UH to fit for
them in one so maybe another step that they are
not going to just for to uh to fit under
the cap, just restructuring some of that freeing up. They're
freeing up Tonyans cap space. And it was some of
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the assumptions that hey, Rogers, Rogers will be fine, He's
not gonna go anywhere. Our real news are fake news.
Super Bowl fifty seven in Arizona in three will be
held on Sunday, February twelve, So we're talking about, Um,
it would not be President's Day weekend. That's not that's
not in this scenario. If it's real or fake is
(32:35):
that real news or fake news? Oh? Um, it is
it is. It is real news. And again it's all
going to determine on the calendar if we get a
super Bowl on a President's Day weekend. And right now
we're just not in that cycle where even with the
expanded regular season, we're still not to the point where
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or a super Bowl could fall on that. So I
thought it was February. It's now February twelve. Yeah, it
was announced today. Yeah, just just because of the because
of the now seventeen game schedule. So really is your
fake news? Doug Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit. Second drug
test sample came back negative. Fake. Yes, yes, it came
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back positive. So we could hear in the near future
that Badinas Spirit is no longer the Kentucky Derby winner.
A dirty double sample dirty business that horse racing, uh
Bob Bafford At first like I don't know, somebody spiked it.
And then it was like maybe our trainer used something
(33:43):
I didn't know he used. They should they should call
him the Kentucky dirty winner. That's a way that that
was amazing. You can we can turn that one around,
all right. Finally, finally dug in in our final scenario,
real news are fake news. A minor league rookie card
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of Honus Wagner sold for six million dollars. A new
card selling record is that real news are fake news? News?
You are? I kind of just got you on the name.
A card did sell for six million dollars. That was
a minor league card. It was a minor league card
of Babe Ruth, A nineteen fourteen Baltimore News Babe Ruth card. Yeah,
(34:26):
sold for six million dollars. I don't think they have
a section in the Beckett for the nineteen fourteen Baltimore
News Cards, but six million bucks for that, babe, Ruth Card.
You're a funny guy. You're a funny guy. This is
game time on the du got Lame Show. This who
(34:53):
becomes the Celtics said coaches? Is interesting? How about how
about Mike Sachowski announcing that he's but he's gonna coach
one more season. So I guess that means Beheim will
be the last because Beheim's got kids, He's got a
couple more years, right, so Beheim will go like two
more years. It'll be Roy Williams this year, she have
seen next year? And then behind the after that is
that we're looking at. Yeah, that's I think that's that's
(35:15):
where we're at. And then I mean you and I
are at an age and I mean a lot of
people are, but you know, like we're izo is such
like the elder statement statesman. But we remember Jed Heathcote
coaching Michigan State. Well, I was I would have been
is those first point guard. He recruited me and he
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was still the assistant coach. Yeah, he was the assistant coach.
Whenever he called, he put the doctor on the phone.
They were getting ready to deliver his first baby. Who's
now what hell old is she now? She's in her
mid twenties, and yeah, he put the doctor on the phone,
and you know, but again it was it was a
little bit on a whim because you didn't know how
they were games, like we're gonna play a lot faster
than Jed plays currently, and we're gonna do this. But no, Wing,
(35:57):
he never called a time out of his life. He's
become a more success fill head coach than Judd. Yeah,
it's it's it's crazy when you think of those I mean,
you know, we kind of dealt this with you know,
college football once you know, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno
moved on. You had those legendary coaches and then all
of a sudden, you're like, wow, Kirk Ference is like
the longest tenured coach. And I kind of feel the
(36:18):
same way with Tomzzo when we talk about that, Like,
I mean, I remember, you know, when Hayden Fry was
the head coach at Iowa, Like that's you know, part
of my Childhood's how when you know you're old, when
now all of a sudden, Tom Iszzo is gonna be
a you know, near the top of that list for
tenured coaches and as you know, heck you were recruited
by him. We all remember him as and as an
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assistant or when Judd Heathcote was at Michigan State. Crazy.
Did you guys see what's happening with AMC? Gavin had
been keeping an eye on this for the stocks. I
sold my AMC this morning got to seventy dollars and
what happened. It's another one of the short squeezes that
the uh Wall Street bets guys over at Reddit are doing.
And I look, I bought it at sixteen dollars back
(36:59):
in February and I was very happy this morning. So
wait see you bought it sixteen and sold it way
at seventy. It's now down the sixties six ye. I
did like a limit order limits cell and once it
hit that sold it right away. Rob. Must you hear that?
My man's like he's buying, he's buying dinner. You know
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he's good. I bought mine at four buying that six
we were talking to a dog. Did you really I
this one? And when it's start when it opened at
thirty five? Yeah? And then do you sell it when
it hits I still have it I'm not one of
those guy to buy cells. I'd like to see what
it does for a little bit. Just one, just one,
but one share, just one. Are you serious? I'm serious.
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You could have sold it and then like buying dinner,
be like uh, Suzanne, listen or something like that. That's yeah,
you just want to see what happens. It was maybe
it goes up to three us. Who knows, right, we
don't know. That's why it's called the stock market. No,
that's actually not by the way, that's gambling gambling. I
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guess you could call it too, by the way, five seconds.
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you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America,
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio? What a Day? What?
Uh Day? What a day? Doug Gottlieb Show. Um Man,
(00:46):
I just this is why I like doing I'm what
I do? You know? I had? I was getting a
haircut yesterday and it's funny thing happened. Um it was
an interesting conversation. I'm not usually a conversationalist when I
get my hair cut real quick. There's no such thing
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it or ticket paid for by NITZA. Since we've last spoken, right,
so twenty one hours ago was the last time you
heard my voice? What's happened since? While? Uh? The Lakers
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did about the opposite of what we thought right back.
It's against the wall Lebron James, that game was over
at the half um. What else happened? Oh, I don't know.
The Celtics kicked their head coach upstairs and Danny Aines retires. Oh,
and Mike Schevsky announced this will be his last season
as duke basketball coach. Not that much has happened, And
it's it's interesting because yesterday I had you, like, you
(01:52):
ever get that where you have an afternoon You're like, yeah,
you're at the tweener stage where I could get a
haircut in the like the three weeks early three week
range and really feel good about where I am. But
you know, you start to cycle over early, and you
know you pay that money or other otherwise you're once
a month guy. I don't know if you're a every
two weeks trim guy. However you do it. But there's
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a couple of barbers that I generally use, and one
of them, you know, they always play a movie. It's
got a cool surround sound. It's all guys. I don't
really know the guys, so I just kind of nod
in my head, like I care about their barbershop conversation.
I don't think they know who I am. I don't
know who they are. It's good. I go with my dude. Heyes,
my son. We get our hairs, we get our haircuts,
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and we kind of laugh at the conversation we know
nothing about and watched the movie yesterday I had I
had a morning where I like, I had a window
there to get something done. So I chose to get
a haircut and went to a place. It's a well
known kind of local chain. And I sit down and
Lad He's like, oh, like eleven o'clock, this is West
(02:59):
Coast time. Doug Ollip show, Fox Sports traded. I love.
What time do you have to work? I said about twelve.
It's it's a good job you don't start earlier like es.
So I kind of explained, like what do you do?
I told her what I did. It's like, oh, so,
do you like sports? It's like it's a common odd question,
but yes, I actually really like sports. So do you
(03:19):
watch every game? I was like, no, I mean it's
not a reasonable way to have a life like sports
is a lot more covering sports, a lot more about
the stories, and it is sometimes actually the games. Oh
the big games like last night's Laker game is important,
And she said, like, how do you keep up with
it all? You know, one of the secretss. And I
told you guys this, I don't like to take a
(03:41):
lot of time off. I just I feel like I'm
missing out. I feel like I'm missing out. I'm getting
my opinion across. So I got a bunch of things
to get to. I get to the Celtics stuff, I'll
get to the Duke stuff. Man, there's a bunch of things.
The sea change in college basketball, Damian Theard was otherworldly. Uh.
(04:02):
Daniel Jeremiah is going to join us as well. In
the second hour of the show, we'll talk to NFL
and figure out any remedies he can see in the
near future. To Aaron Rodgers, Julio Jones, what makes sense, etcetera, etcetera.
But I gotta start with the with the Lakers and
something I've told you. I've told you kind of came
(04:24):
to fruition the past couple of days. Look what happens
is when a guy is a great talent and he
plays alongside Lebron James and he wins the title. All
of a sudden, people start going like man, maybe he's
on Team Lebron in terms of his health and his fitness.
We also make the assessment all the time that what
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someone does on a bad basketball team, they're going to
do have a similar performance or maybe even a better
performance when surrounded by better players and a better team.
That's Dennis Shrewder. Let's start with Anthony Davis, who didn't
play last night. The end of the night belongs to
Charles Barkley. He had this to say about Anthony Davis.
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I told you Deliquas can't win this this this this series.
Forget about the championship. They can't win this series without
street clothes. I'm not even you want to explain that.
I'll call him after the street closed Davis because he's
always in street clothes, always in street close. Yeah. So look,
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I don't know. I don't know for a fact if
what you do, what you eat, your level of fitness,
your level of commitment, I don't know if it truly
affects your performance or if your body breaks down, like
sometimes it's freak things right, um and and Joel embiids like,
(05:54):
you know part of this discussion as well, not because
he's not in shape this year, but years of not
being in shape probably led to his litany of injuries.
You know, we also don't know about the type of
diet Joel Embid had before he came to Florida and
then to Kansas uh and then to the NBA. Like
all all of that is the foundation of what you're
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what you're built upon, the foundation, just like your skills
as as an athlete, your body is built upon the
foundation of what you eat, how you train, how you stretch,
how your body is built, you know, and with with
your trainers, if you have a trainer. Anthony Davis is
not nearly as committed as a lebron James is to
his body, to his fitness. He just isn't. I've had
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enough people tell me that to know that it's not
just like one people going like, hey, you know, I've
had plenty of people tell me like Andy David's a
great player, but he's just one of those hoopers, like
he'll get in and he'll left weights when he has to,
but the the extra stuff, and it's just not It's
always worked for him in basketball to just go play
and work in your game and not your body, and
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not higher than the personal chef and not worry about
you know how your body always looks. But this is
much like any you have a really nice car, Gavin,
if you could buy one car right now, what would
it be? Two seater? I'm like, we're talking Lamborghini in
your Ferrari, or you more like S class Mercedes, you know,
(07:22):
or an M class BMW You tell me, I like,
I like a BMW all right, a BMW M series,
like an M six, which is the two door turbo
charged right, okay, so you you buy one, it's a
ten grand, Okay? You drive around all day, you pull
into a gas station, anybody ever drive up and see
(07:44):
what ninety two costs these days in California? A lot?
Do you want to give me a rough festival? Four
seventy five ish? Right? What's the what's the eight seven octane?
So you can get at you get right? Okay? So again,
let's say the gas tank holds I think they hold
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fifteen gallons, right, and and it's seventy five cents more
a gallon to get premium as opposed to regular letter
We okay with that is the spread so cents more
times when we say twenty gallons, right, So you're looking
at what are we looking at one thi undred cents, right,
(08:28):
that's how much. That's how much. How many dollars more?
You're spending like fifteen dollars more to fill up a
tank of gas with premium than it is with regular. Right. Now,
keep in mind you just spent a hundred and ten
thousand dollars on a on a brand new, beautiful automobile.
But you're driving around You're like, does it run on
eight seven ramos? If you put the regular stuff in?
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Does it? I would think it will run? Yes? What
do you think, Gavin? Does it run? Yeah? I would
It definitely runs. So why put in the premium? That's
what they tell you to do. Why put in the premium?
Because the idea is, what's the point of having a
turbo charge engine fo horsepower if you're not going to
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try and get the best possible, the optimum possible performance
out of the car? Fair So you're gonna go expensive
on the car and cheap on the gas. Well, that's
the that's the conundrum for the athlete. Right, Anthony Davis
is a Ferrari, He is a an M six BMW.
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Do I know for a fact that the car won't
run as good? I do not seven octane. It probably operates,
but this the greatest likelihood you have of the car
not having knocks running getting all the performance out that
you want from a performance automobile is to put the
best stuff in. That's the difference. And while we can
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credit Lebron James for his motivation last year and his
ability to fatill tate the growth of Anthony Davis last year,
we told you that when you get to your thirties,
and he knows this, that's why he had to have
Anthony Davis. He can't carry a team on his own.
You know. He hit six threes, but most of those
were in the third quarter. They were down thirties to half,
the game was over. He's lost consecutive first round games
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for the first time in his career. And oh yeah,
by the way, Dennis Shrewder, who wanted a hundred million
dollars a couple months ago when he turned down eighty four,
guaranteed he had a donut. Last night, Oh of nine
oh four from three looked awful. The team did not
look motivated, they looked defeated, and Phoenix rubbed their nose
in it. Do I think part of it is Lebron
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being old chore. Do I think part of it is
Anthony Davis and the lack of desire to do everything
possible to get his body absolutely right. I do. I
do think that's that's a that's the strongest likely reason
that here, a super talented athlete who still relatively young's
body continues to break down. And I think that Dennis
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Shrewder is the classic. You know, every bad team has
a leading score. I don't care what you put up,
how many points you put up with the Hawks when
you're terrible, what do you do when it actually matters?
And he's gotten worse, not better? This is Lebron after
the game and we got our ask kicked. I mean
it's just that simple. Um, they did, got whatever they
wanted to get to in this game, and uh, you know,
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we gotta be better obviously if we want to force
the game seven. So obviously lots of U learn from
in his game with lots of cover. See, uh, you
know what we gotta do better going on in the
game six. But I mean they pretty much just kicked ass.
I mean, it's nothing else really to say. I love
it from Lebron. I don't know if that's defeatist or
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just matter. It's definitely matter of fact and it's honest.
But this version Lebron I love. The question is was
it just a one off? Was it the proximity in time?
Was it the fact they also, you know, you don't
have KCP, he's got a knee and he hadn't made
a shot? What? What is it? But we've gone from
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lot just last night it was and I was in
this camps like, you know, Look, I don't think the
Lakers are in a great place mentally physically, I'm not
sure they're a great team. And we can undersell Phoenix
to you all all the time, but there is just
a possibility that this is a lost season. He can't
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do it at the level consistently he used to. Now,
even if they are able to win their going seven
games plus they had to play in game, something else
is going to break down. Um, And I do think
at some point you've gotta be resigned to the fact
that the the the energy expended last year, the quick turnaround,
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the change in roster guys. We assume that a guy
puts up seventeen in game one place to put up
seventeen game another place. That's not the way it works,
and that Lebron James can be Lebron James of old.
None of these have to have been able to occur.
I mean, what a dramatic turn of events. I said
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this yesterday Friday. The Clippers were dead and the Lakers
were polishing off their rings and get ready for another
one and get ready to hang another banner. Now we're
like one Clipper win away from going. It's completely flipped.
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on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio. Ah
app what Updug gotlip Show? Fox Sports Radio? So not
a lot going on in the NBA. Huh uh? Gary
Washburn's gonna join us in Boston Globe. Um, that's uh.
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Danny Ainge was the Celtics had a basketball radiation operations
since two thousand three. Remember they made the playoffs fifteen
of eighteen years. They want a title in the last
eighteen years. Making the playoffs fifteen eighteen years is the
second most in the NBA, just behind the Spurs. But
a model organization. He's done it with draft picks. He
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obviously pulled off the Garnett move, they want a title.
He's had multiple successful head coaches. Uh. And then you know,
Brad Stevens gets kicked upstairs to run basketball operations. Eight seasons,
has a fifty five winning percentage, but seven playof appearances,
including three conference finals appearances in the past four years
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heading into this year. So I mean, look that they
took over a team that they scrapped, and he took
over a team steven said scrapped, restarted, and you know,
the Kyrie thing I think would have worked. But I
think the Kyrie injury combined with his personality mixed with
the new personalities obviously didn't work. And then the replacement
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was Kemba Walker, who was a great personality, just his
knee wouldn't wouldn't allow it to work. I think the
Gordon Hayward thing made total sense on paper. I think
in practice it's hard. It was hard because Hayward got hurt,
so he's never when he was there the guy that
he used to be, and the assumption that he's Brad
Stevens guy, he doesn't create great relationships, especially with young
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guys in the locker room. I look, I think they
had all kinds of issues Brad's a very very good
coach and an excellent man, but you have to have
with with his style. I'm not sure if it resonated
with all of their young guys like Ian Jalen Brown.
That appeared to be oil and water, which is weird
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because obviously he was part of the group that chose
to draft Jalen Brown. But Jalen's it's a tough dude
to sometimes get along with, not because he's in any
way a bad guy, but just one of those guys
who's smart and challenges everything he hears. I even think
Jayson Tatum, who Jayson Tatum will never get criticized because
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he can score. But the truth is that there's three
parts to being a superstar. Scoring is only one part.
Do you make everybody else around you better? I don't
think he does. And do you really defend? I don't
think he does. In addition to sometimes being challenged in
terms of shot selection, he's a marvelous offensive talent. But
when your best player isn't a creator for other people
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and isn't a great defender, when you have your second
best player is always challenging authority, then you have injuries
and you have some dysfunctions, so you try and do
it with better dudes are better fits, but maybe not
talent enough for a guy who's passed his prime. That's
what befell the Celtics. When we look at it in
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the grand scheme of things, we go like, you know,
he was a hell of a run, but in the
under the microscope, our expectations exceeded what they're possible output
would be. Just this. I mean, look, we talked about
them as if they're abject failures. They went to the
conference finals last year and they had a chance. They
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had several chances to win games against the Heat. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific Doug
Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Jamar Chase is a baller boy.
I just I just hope they can block for him.
That's that's the big thing. Gerry Washburn Joints Sister the
Boston Globe. Um, Gary, I've I've been told from people
(17:32):
today like, yeah, they knew this was happening, did you.
I thought that they would have to organized station seek up.
I thought both Brad and Danny were safe in terms
of the removed from their positions. Um, I thought Ange
was stealing the end. I didn't think he was going
to retire today or get out of the game, But
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I did think that if games were to stay, they
were gonna have to be some major front office additions,
probably a couple of subtractions. And the same with Stevens
in terms of his coaching staff. There was gonna have
to be some major reconstruction up and down the organization.
What's missing there? What? Why? Why the perceived um dysfunction?
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You know, I just think it's a matter Doug of
being kind of maybe outdated. The players are younger, Um,
they don't remember Danny as a player and in that
type of thing. So their memories there's a little bit
or shorter, Their attention spans are shorter. You have to
be more hands on, Brad, you know, turn beat Red
(18:42):
trying to tell these guys what to do. Sometimes they listen,
sometimes they didn't. There's a high level of frustration there.
The players got along fine off the floor, but just
didn't have any chemistry on the floor. Ames didn't help
by not, uh, you know, putting good players on this
roster come and off the bench in comparison and with Philadelphia,
Milwaukee and Brooklyn did so they got laughed. There was
(19:06):
a combination. It was a failure on all levels. Some
players or had disappointing seasons, the coaching staff did not
do well, and Danny let the team down by not
making some moves and making others he shouldn't have made
um In totality, though, would you deem his tenure of success, Yeah,
(19:28):
you win a championship, go to another game, seven finals?
I think over all, yeah, because I think there's been
as as we know, Doug, A lot of general managers
who have long ten years have not quite everyone a championship,
although they've been successful. So I think it's been successful.
Was the last ten years as successful could have been, No,
especially after that two thousand and thirteen trade where they got,
(19:50):
you know, all those assets from Brooklyn and I was
supposed to line them up to compete for NBA finals.
One of the problems, Doug was they ran into Lebron.
You know, they went to two the Conqueror Toornals and
lost to Lebron, and then Lebron left the East, and
then I think last year was a real gut punch.
There's a third seed. They faced fifth seat Miami and
the Bubble a chance to return to the finals, and
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that probably changed the perception of everything. Even though if
they lose to the Lakers in the finals, at least
they made it. But they lose the Miami in six,
a series that got dominated and I think from then on, Doug,
everyone was on alert. He was just a disappointing ending
and that kind of put the organization back. Okay, so
who's the right fit. There's a lot of guys, Doug.
(20:35):
I think you know, Sam Cassell, Chauncey Billips. Uh, if
you want to go a former coach who just got
Lloyd Pierce could be a guy he's worked with, uh,
Tatum and Brown and Kimball Walker and Marcus Smart with
USA basketball. Uh. You know, I think Brad is gonna
go outside of his box here. I don't think he's gonna,
(20:55):
you know, name us his successor who could be his twin.
I don't think. I think he's gonna take a really
broad look at this, and that could mean someone like
a Becky Hammond or Carol Lawson. That's not hiring Becky Hammon, Yeah,
he's not. I I just I I understand the media guys,
you guys are in love with the Becky Hammond thing.
You're not hiring Becky Hammond, you know, it's it's whoever.
(21:18):
I'm like, look, all the things that you know to
be true are in fact true. Right, they had trouble
relating to the younger players, He had trouble kind of
breaking through. They're they're not doing that with somebody who
didn't play in the NBA. Al right, So if you're
gonna circle guys and and and like, and everyone likes Lloyd,
but they're better since he's gone in Atlanta, they're not
hiring Layder. So it's it's the it's the Chauncey, Sam Cassell, uh,
(21:43):
Sam Cassell, Jason Kidd. That that pool makes sense to me.
Is you gotta get somebody that that Jalen and Um
and Jason Tatum, Jalen Jason buy into. They gotta be
able to handle the rest of him. But you those
two or you're you have to have two studs ride with.
And if those two guys aren't on board, you're not
winning anything and you're not partying company with them. That
(22:06):
I believe is the likely and I think he knows that.
I think Brad has has pretty good situational awareness. I'm
sure he knows. They ain't listen to me. I gotta
figure out somebody who they argant totally. And I think
that you're right. I mean, being a flier NBA player
that holds a lot of water uh in today's NBA.
And that's not exactly all the models for every coach,
(22:28):
But I think that they need a good, young, rising voice,
someone who embraces analytics but not too much. Someone like
you said, that can relate to Potatum, that can relate
to Brown, but that can also be a disciplinarian in
some cases of mentor life coat uh father figure, et cetera.
And it does not hurt that the person might have
(22:49):
played twelve years in the league and has been the
NBA finals, that has been where those guys want to be.
I think that's very important. I think Brad will I
think he will in to use someone a couple of
you know, uh, dark horses for the job, but I
do think he'll keep it to that um arena um.
What about the personnel. I mean, I don't think they
(23:12):
can get anybody to take Kimba's contract. I would guess
the only thing they could do is move a Marcus
Smart who was an inspiring deal. Yeah, yeah, he's got
one more un he's got the most tradeable contract on
the roster. Or U let's say at Tristian Thompson. Um,
they don't have a lot of options since the free agency,
they don't have any money. They're gonna be a luxury
tax team for the Rumor, let's say if they find
(23:35):
someone to take Kimba's contract, they're gonna finally take a
bad contract in return or an unwanted contract from a team.
So you're swapping let's say Kimba walking for out horsers. Okay,
if if, if, if you really want to do it
like that, someone's bad money for your bad money. Um,
you know they're gonna have to draft well, they're gonna
(23:55):
have to be astute with these mid level exceptions and
pick quality free agents. You know, Danny did not do
a very good job this offseason. They were coming off
an Eastern Conference final. They added Jeff Key and Tristian
Thompson and what essentially Gordon Hayward walk for nothing when
they could have made a deal with Indiana. So, um,
(24:17):
there's a lot of things that need to be done,
but not a lot of resources to do them, because
Kimba Walker's contract is not is one of the worst
at this point in the week. But John Walk got traded,
Westbrook got traded. I guess anybody can be moved, but
it's gonna be challenging. It is gonna be It's gonna
be very very challenging. Um what what what do you
(24:39):
think of of Kyrie's antics? Granted, nothing welcomes or tell
somebody that should throw a plastic bottle at a guy,
but he did kind of he stoked the fire with
the with the talks about racism and then the mushing
of the nose of the leprechaun like I don't know,
I don't feel like a like Carry's looking at himself
(25:01):
like he's been a victim of Boston for the past
couple of years, when I felt like he was the
one who said he was coming back before anybody even
asked Yeah, it's I mean, I think we all can
say Carry he's a confusion guy. I mean, he's just
he's just he just can't figure him out. And the
fact that I don't know why he wouldn't have beef
(25:26):
with Boston. I think they treated him the way that
as much they gave him as much as he wanted.
He didn't work out. He was injured the first year
and the next year was just a lot of chaos.
On the last um for him to walk away, and
the ownership said, hey, good luck. They didn't bad mouthom publicly.
The organization wished him the best. He said he wanted
(25:48):
to choose is his uh next team. He did, He
went home to Brooklyn. So I don't know why this
animosity towards Boston. I don't know why he would have
stepped on the logo like that. I don't know it's
it's it's not a situation where he actually obviously committed
to come back and then he renamed them that agreement. Um.
(26:08):
So it's hard to figure out why Kyrie does with
Kyrie don. But I think you're right. I think he
wants people to believe and to perceive that he was
a victim in Boston, or that it was it was
a tough situation, or they put him through a lot,
and I didn't see it. I was their first hand.
I didn't see them putting him through a lot or
him having He just didn't. He wasn't a good leader,
(26:29):
he wasn't a good number one guy, and he went
to a place that he doesn't have to be a
number one guy. He didn't have to be a team leader.
They got it. They got two other guys who can
do that. They haven't got two of the guys who
are just as proven. It's not more proven that he is.
So it's a good position for him. In Boston, he
was the lead dog, the head of the snake. It
didn't work out for him then he wasn't comfortable in
(26:51):
that position. Gary, great stuff man, Thanks so much for
joining us. Uh this this is an enjoyable time and
even if losing isn't enjoyable, to enjoyable time to speculate
and to wonder what the future looks like. Thanks so much.
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he got, Doug? The game today is real news? Fake news? Alright, Doug,
Real news or fake news? And odds released by bet Online,
(28:18):
Chauncey Billups says the best odds to land the Celtics
head coaching gig is that real news or fake news? Fakeness?
You are fake You're right, it is fake news. Billips
listed at six to one right now According to bet online,
Jailer and Ega right now at three to one would
be the favorite. Jason Kidding, I didn't think. So there's
uh that is that is the the current odds, at
(28:40):
least according to a bet on people who don't know. Um, obviously,
Ja is Jim's son. Ka was a very good player,
played professionally overseas and been in the business for years.
Younger dude, Um, I don't is he forty? I think
he's a forty one. No, he's forty five. I thought
I saw, yeah, the same age as Brad. I don't know.
(29:05):
I had a feeling it'll be somebody, a guy's former
NBA player, that's my guess. But go ahead, No, I've
got other some other names of interest when it comes
to odds. You were talking with Gary Washburn about Becky
Hammond fourteen to one are her odds? Jeff van Gundi
fourteen to one, the retiring coach Kty three to one,
Larry Bird and Tony Bennett at fifty to one, And
(29:27):
how about this Rick Pattino at one hundred to one.
Wouldn't be a crazy idea to bring in Rick Petino.
I just don't think, because he's been there and working
for Brad, not the craziest idea. The other name of
the odds that I that that stood it out, and
I know you don't see this list, and I'm looking
at it. Ohio State's Chris Holtzman Uh sixty six to one.
Of course the butler, Yeah, well, Brad's former assistant. But
(29:50):
he actually didn't work for Brad, but Brad got him
to go go there after he left. But yeah, I
don't see that happening. Alright, go one for one. Real
news or fake news that Celtics fan Cole buck Lee,
who was arraigned today on charges for throwing a water
bottle at Kyrie Irving, could be suspended from the University
of Rhode Island, where he attends schools are fake news
that sounds like. Yeah. Rhode Island spokesperson UH said to
(30:16):
Yahoo's Sports that the matter has been referred to the
university student conduct process, which could result in sanctions ranging
from a warning to suspension. So yeah, I mean, look,
it's dumb. I'm out don't know, dear. Does the guy's
life get ruined because of it? Like, I think not
coming back for a basketball game and being shamed on
(30:36):
national TV is probably enough. Do you think when he's
like sixty eight, they're not going to let him into
the arena? I just don't understand how any of that
stuff works. That's what I too, and that's not me
like he kind of looks like Peyton Peyton Pitchard too.
Sure sure, uh Peyton Pitchers Brother, why are we getting
kicked out? Grandpa? Well in I throw carrier, I ring
(31:02):
because he stopped down to take space, damn it. And
if you stump in the fish water bottle at you again,
I'll just point it out. I said on Twitter yesterday
or the other day, that leg is backwards on that logo.
I the left leg. I don't understand how the left
leg could bend like that. I have no idea. It's
(31:23):
like resting, It's like a it's like a yoga post.
The bigger problem is the fact that he's got the
he's got a like a gut in front and no
and he suffered from no ast him back. Very very
good real news are fake news. The Packers restructured the
contract of tiend Robert Touny in today, freeing up cap space.
It sounds for three for Dougie on this one, and
(31:49):
the assumption is that frees up some cap space and
also allows Aaron Rodgers contract to UH to fit for
them in one so maybe another step that they are
not going to just for to uh to fit under
the cap, just restructuring some of that freeing up. They're
freeing up Tonyans cap space. And it was some of
(32:12):
the assumptions that hey, Rogers, Rogers will be fine, He's
not gonna go anywhere. Our real news are fake news.
Super Bowl fifty seven in Arizona in three will be
held on Sunday, February twelve, So we're talking about, Um,
it would not be President's Day weekend. That's not that's
not in this scenario. If it's real or fake is
(32:35):
that real news or fake news? Oh? Um, it is
it is. It is real news. And again it's all
going to determine on the calendar if we get a
super Bowl on a President's Day weekend. And right now
we're just not in that cycle where even with the
expanded regular season, we're still not to the point where
(33:00):
or a super Bowl could fall on that. So I
thought it was February. It's now February twelve. Yeah, it
was announced today. Yeah, just just because of the because
of the now seventeen game schedule. So really is your
fake news? Doug Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit. Second drug
test sample came back negative. Fake. Yes, yes, it came
(33:23):
back positive. So we could hear in the near future
that Badinas Spirit is no longer the Kentucky Derby winner.
A dirty double sample dirty business that horse racing, uh
Bob Bafford At first like I don't know, somebody spiked it.
And then it was like maybe our trainer used something
(33:43):
I didn't know he used. They should they should call
him the Kentucky dirty winner. That's a way that that
was amazing. You can we can turn that one around,
all right. Finally, finally dug in in our final scenario,
real news are fake news. A minor league rookie card
(34:05):
of Honus Wagner sold for six million dollars. A new
card selling record is that real news are fake news? News?
You are? I kind of just got you on the name.
A card did sell for six million dollars. That was
a minor league card. It was a minor league card
of Babe Ruth, A nineteen fourteen Baltimore News Babe Ruth card. Yeah,
(34:26):
sold for six million dollars. I don't think they have
a section in the Beckett for the nineteen fourteen Baltimore
News Cards, but six million bucks for that, babe, Ruth Card.
You're a funny guy. You're a funny guy. This is
game time on the du got Lame Show. This who
(34:53):
becomes the Celtics said coaches? Is interesting? How about how
about Mike Sachowski announcing that he's but he's gonna coach
one more season. So I guess that means Beheim will
be the last because Beheim's got kids, He's got a
couple more years, right, so Beheim will go like two
more years. It'll be Roy Williams this year, she have
seen next year? And then behind the after that is
that we're looking at. Yeah, that's I think that's that's
(35:15):
where we're at. And then I mean you and I
are at an age and I mean a lot of
people are, but you know, like we're izo is such
like the elder statement statesman. But we remember Jed Heathcote
coaching Michigan State. Well, I was I would have been
is those first point guard. He recruited me and he
(35:35):
was still the assistant coach. Yeah, he was the assistant coach.
Whenever he called, he put the doctor on the phone.
They were getting ready to deliver his first baby. Who's
now what hell old is she now? She's in her
mid twenties, and yeah, he put the doctor on the phone,
and you know, but again it was it was a
little bit on a whim because you didn't know how
they were games, like we're gonna play a lot faster
than Jed plays currently, and we're gonna do this. But no, Wing,
(35:57):
he never called a time out of his life. He's
become a more success fill head coach than Judd. Yeah,
it's it's it's crazy when you think of those I mean,
you know, we kind of dealt this with you know,
college football once you know, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno
moved on. You had those legendary coaches and then all
of a sudden, you're like, wow, Kirk Ference is like
the longest tenured coach. And I kind of feel the
(36:18):
same way with Tomzzo when we talk about that, Like,
I mean, I remember, you know, when Hayden Fry was
the head coach at Iowa, Like that's you know, part
of my Childhood's how when you know you're old, when
now all of a sudden, Tom Iszzo is gonna be
a you know, near the top of that list for
tenured coaches and as you know, heck you were recruited
by him. We all remember him as and as an
(36:38):
assistant or when Judd Heathcote was at Michigan State. Crazy.
Did you guys see what's happening with AMC? Gavin had
been keeping an eye on this for the stocks. I
sold my AMC this morning got to seventy dollars and
what happened. It's another one of the short squeezes that
the uh Wall Street bets guys over at Reddit are doing.
And I look, I bought it at sixteen dollars back
(36:59):
in February and I was very happy this morning. So
wait see you bought it sixteen and sold it way
at seventy. It's now down the sixties six ye. I
did like a limit order limits cell and once it
hit that sold it right away. Rob. Must you hear that?
My man's like he's buying, he's buying dinner. You know
(37:20):
he's good. I bought mine at four buying that six
we were talking to a dog. Did you really I
this one? And when it's start when it opened at
thirty five? Yeah? And then do you sell it when
it hits I still have it I'm not one of
those guy to buy cells. I'd like to see what
it does for a little bit. Just one, just one,
but one share, just one. Are you serious? I'm serious.
(37:41):
You could have sold it and then like buying dinner,
be like uh, Suzanne, listen or something like that. That's yeah,
you just want to see what happens. It was maybe
it goes up to three us. Who knows, right, we
don't know. That's why it's called the stock market. No,
that's actually not by the way, that's gambling gambling. I
(38:03):
guess you could call it too, by the way, five seconds.
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