June 7, 2021 • 40 mins
Doug tells you why he has no sympathy for Jon Rahm who had to withdraw from the Memorial Trounament after testing positive for Coronavirus. He calls out everyone for prematurely counting out the Clippers in the first round. Packers President is telling it how it is when he says Aaron Rodgers is dividing the fans and TJ Houshmandzadeh from Up On Game weighs in on the Julio Jones trade to the Titans as well as his Lakers being knocked out by the Suns.
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Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope
you're having a great day. We sure is that. Car Man,
we got some good stuff for you. Um My, man,
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you gotta You have a big train in the National
Football League. You have a president of football Operations claiming
that Aaron Rodgers divided their fan base. We have a
craziness in US soccer against Mexico, and oh yeah, by
the way, um gosh, there's a bunch of other stuff.
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Then you have you have John Let me start. I'm
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John Ram all right, Um, Dan buyers the perfect guy
for this because Dan is our golf expert and golf
kind of servant. Right. Um. Plus, the guy was a
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paternity leave during the p g A so he was
just all golfed out the entire time. And he is
a newborn, which means no golfer him for him. Um.
John Ram was leading by good margin on Saturday on
a PGA Tour event in at Merefield Village. Right, it's
called Memorial. It's it's an event that Tiger I think
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he's won seven times. Yeah, it's Jack Nicholas's tournament and
he loves playing and he usually plays well, so it's
the bottom when he's not there. So he tests positive
for COVID and he had to withdraw my my missing anything.
Um no, that's that was the case. Had a close
contact earlier in this week earlier in the week, and
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then was given the option to continue to play, uh
to go through the you know, rigorous testing, or withdraw
from the tournament. He chose to go through the testing
and continue to play. I have no sympathy for John
rom zero. Okay, if his doctors approved him getting the
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vaccinate the vaccine, I have zero sympathy form none right now.
I understand that everyone has their own story and has
their own doctor or maybe has their own stuff in
which they and look, I'm not telling you you have
to get the vaccine. I believe you should if your
doctor says you can. There's a very small minority of
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people who cannot get certain vaccines. If your doctor says
get it, you should get it genron specifically. And I
understand that there's a little bit of a dated nature
to what the p g A Tour is doing and
what most of these sports is doing. It's like, look,
I mean, everybody's out in public now, like what are
we doing? I understand, But you knew they were going
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to be testing. You knew this was the policy in place.
You have absolutely had every opportunity for several months to
get the vaccine and you chose not to. I can't
help you, all right, I don't establish the rules mere
Field Village and the p g A tour did. Those
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are the rules. And if you had your vaccine, you
can even if you tested positive, because you can get
it when you have the vaccine. You and go like, look, well,
what's the point I got I got the vaccine right,
which would be a fair argument. I don't understand the
guy's like who people who have the vaccine? And then
we're supposed to still, you know, wear a mask, be
under lock and key, and the government's come out and
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said like, look, you have the vaccine, you can go back,
but it discourages people from getting the vaccine. He did not.
That was his choice. That's where this story should should
should go to. You can have whatever feeling you want
about the vaccine. I believe you're wrong unless your doctor
says you can't get it. Not because I've said it,
but enough, But doctors and scientists will will give you
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fact upon fact and reason upon reason that you should
in fact go get it and your kids now canon
will My kids have begun the process of being vaccine
as well. But again, if you want to not, but
if it's your job, and your job is going to
thrust you into a locker room full of people. Your
job is going to take you to a golf course
full of people. And the way to protect yourself from
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having to withdraw when you're about to win a very
prestigious event whose total person's nine point three million dollars.
You don't take home the total person, I understand, but
it's a lot of money, and he was playing great golfing.
He's a great golfer. Your choice not to vaccine is
the story, not the arcane rules of the p G
A who like, look these rules, it's like a it's
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like a slow moving ship. It's hard to turn that
ship around, right, Well, get there eventually, but you knew
the rules, all right, Let's get to the Let's get
to the meat of what I really want to talk about,
which is the NBA. Tales of the Clippers demise have
been greatly exaggerated. And as I told Dan Buyer Friday Friday,
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we played a game. Wasn't Friday, Dan? And we played
a game like your most dangerous team in the playoffs, right?
And I said, like, look, I still think it's the Clippers,
even though at the time they were down three games
to two. Just my my point is that they still
have Kawhi Leonard, who in the in the last two
games looked like the best player on Earth. They still
have a good mix of bigs and littles and Paul
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George as that the second option. And I think, if
I'm being totally honest, I think Tyler was the better coach.
He made the adjustments and understood everything and figured it out.
It's it's like a it's a jigsaw puzzle and you're
sitting there going like this piece, no, this piece, no,
stop playing. Patrick Beverley started playing Luke Kennard. You know
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he played Trey Man is like a small ball five Like,
dude did things that we didn't think could be done
and pulled it off. And yeah, I was Kauai on
was that Friday night? Yeah? And and actually during our
game time, our psychic game, I asked you prior to
game six, who would be the best player on the
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floor that night, and you, without hesitation, said Kawhi Leonard.
And now, look, I like, I love Luca. He's good.
He's very very good, and he probably will I would
assume he's going to get much better. Um, Let's also
be honest that as special as he is and as
much as he's carrying a team, it there there's if
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this is a lot like the Lebron thing, right, Like,
he ends up exhausting himself and it can be hard
to play with. And then when he's out of the game,
you're like, we now we gotta play a completely different
style of basketball. And I thought Rick Carlile did a
great job of using Boban right, Boban all of a
sudden became this walking bucket because the Clippers refused to
use Zoo Bach. And that was because every time Zoo
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Batch in the game, they went right at Zoo Batch,
you know. And whereas when the Mavericks uh had Boban
in the game, they went to a two three zone
so that he didn't have to go and guard one guy,
he didn't have to guard screen role nearly nearly the same.
It was a great chess match, and I thought Tyler
wanted he made better adjustments. And it does go back
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to game three. Game three, you're up nineteen points and
you take out Luca in the first quarter. You can't
win a game in the first half. You can damn
sure lose it. I thought the Mavericks lost to den
end of the first quarter, four and a half minutes
later it was a three point game. Whereas if you
watched last night, or if you watched on Saturday night,
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you've noticed that Kawhi Leonard did not come out of
the game in the fourth quarter, when guy stars usually
take a little bit of arrest. So I just I
thought it was a great series. And every most every
team outside of the Warriors that um the year they
wanted before they won seventy three games. Most every team
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faces some sort of adversity that was their adversity. Doesn't
mean they're in the clear. But boys, if they didn't
show you something, I don't I don't know what you're
looking for. Otherwise, I don't know if if you're not
in press by what the Clippers did over the past
uh two games, specific epically when they cannot lose, your
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back is against the wall. It is you know, your
fear of blowing up a team you know, and you
don't play Patrick Beverley did not play him a minute,
all right, stop playing rondo. For the most part, he
played he had three yesterday, he played like nine minutes,
but all of a sudden you start playing Luke Knard
and he played tree Man twenty six minutes, got it done.
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I think Carlisle cost himself the series in Game three.
I thought Tyler made better and smarter adjustments. I did
think that Carlisle adjusted to it and tried to make
his own adjustments, but I thought it was too late
once the Clippers woke up. That was kind of that.
That was kind of that. And now we have this
really weird situation. L A right and l A. Nobody
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takes the Clippers seriously. They never really have. And there
are some Clipper fans, but it's overwhelmingly Laker fans who
still don't like Lebron He's still not one of us,
but hate the Clippers probably more. And now the Clippers
have a chance to do something if they can win
four more games they've never done before, which is get
to the third round, get to the conference finals. They've
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never been there before. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
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I Heart Radio a app. Uh. Let's let's get to
this story. Mark Murphy is the president of the Green
Bay Packers. He's formerly the general manager and he get
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kicked upstairs. That's in Brian Genkunst, who's only worked in
the Packers got promoted. The situation we face, this is
our purphy with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base.
The emails and letters I've received and reflect that fact.
As I wrote here last month and this is from
Packers dot com, we remain committed to resolving things with
Aaron and want him to be our quarterback in two
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thousand twenty one and beyond. We are working to resolve
that situation. Really is that the less both sides say
publicly the better. Um I I don't think that, Like
there's people like, wow, how could you possibly say that?
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Because it's the truth. Right. Aaron Rodgers is making you
choose between Aaron Rodgers and Brian Gunnankut's or Aaron Rodgers
and the Packers. It's inarguable you're either on team Aaron
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or you're on team Brian Gunnankunst. And his interview with
Kenny Mayne was, you know, just simply trying to get
the people. It's about the people. It's about the people.
It's about the people. And I don't say this. I
think Aaron is a bad person. I don't think he's
actually a very good person. I think he is uh.
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For people he uh eels that that need help, he
will help them. For people that are friends, he is
their friend. Obviously he and Brian Gonna comes not friends.
But if you didn't think it would divide a fan base,
you wouldn't have had to go to the interview to
try and get people on your side. You're making people choose.
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And here's the thing, um, here's the thing making you choose,
making you choose between one or the other. Not everybody's
gonna pick your side. There are going to people be
a lot of people don't like when people don't like them.
You even notice that. It's like, why don't send people
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right for president president? It's because people won't like you.
They won't like what you believe in. You're gonna have
to deal with the fact that in life, not everybody
likes you and not a lot of people there's a
lot of people that can't deal with that. But I
don't think what Mark if he said first, you know,
I'm sure he whatever his his uh size of the
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number wise of emails and texts and and letters from
people is I'm sure he's speaking from truth. And divided
fan base does not mean it's fifty it give me.
That's still a divided fan base. He didn't say it
was evenly divided. He didn't say people in our favor.
He just said like, look, we want to get this
worked out, but Aaron's kind of divided us. He ain't wrong, brother,
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not wrong. So I don't I think that this is
this is a family squabble, and Aaron Rodgers wants to
be emancipated. I think on some level from that. And
and I'm sure they're just like I am with my
fifteen year old daughter. She doesn't have two of them,
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but one of them is like, you know, I want
to do this, and I want to do that. It's like, okay,
if you want emancipation, we can fill out the paperwork
and go. But you know all those other things that
you do when you're emancipated, I don't have to pay
for them. You know what stopped right then and there,
and he sort of talking of emancipation. She was like,
what's emancipated? Means you're free, you're an adult, you can
do which point in fifteen years old, go for it,
but I don't actually have to pay for any of
the stuff I pay for if that happens anything, I mean,
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even now, it's out of the goodness of my heart,
but really then it's out of the goodness of my heart.
So Aaron Rodgers wants to be a man Spain. They're like, yeah, no,
now we have the under contract. We're good, let's work
it up, let's figure it out. But some people were
bothered by the language. And by all he's saying, he's
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dividing us by by dividing us, he's putting Aaron on
the opposite side of it, Like, no, Aaron did this,
Let's just be honest. And I also thought another interesting
part of the statement, and this is where where he said, like,
you know, we discourage them from sharing their thoughts publicly, which,
by the way, is one of the big issues with
Aaron Rodgers. First he leaked the story out about I
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wanted to be traded any they leaked the story out
about the forty niners, you know, and then he had
the interview with Kenny Maine as well as several other interviews.
He's allowed to do this, But I think what Mark
Murphy is saying is accurate. The more you say publicly,
the worst it actually is. Whether we stay together, we
break up by or do you see any way in
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which Aaron Rodgers shows up for mandatory minicamp? No, I don't.
Do you have a problem with what Mark Murphy wrote
where he said he's divided our fan base. I thought
it was unsolicited, and I actually thought it would have
been worded better if this statement would have if the
last line of not talking in the public was actually
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the first thing that he said, as opposed to the
last thing that he said explained, meaning like if he said, listen,
I think that these things are are best done in
private it or not done publicly. We've stated what we want,
Uh you know, we want Aaron to be a part
of the football team, and uh you know that's we
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We hope that he's here, YadA, YadA, YadA in that
way it because otherwise this just makes it sound like
he's trying to get in a zinger um or something
at the end, whereas opposed to, hey, this is my thought.
This is how we are, you know, going with it.
We'd we'd rather not do it. But if you do
want to know where we stand, this is where we
stand so you have probably I'm saying, don't share publicly. Um, yeah,
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when you just talked for you know, four sentences and
said that, you know, Aaron Rodgers has divided the fan base,
and then all of a sudden you say, like, we
it's best to keep these not public. Who's who's just
went public with it? M M. Here's what I'll this here.
This is a lot like you know in a courthouse
and in a court, and I don't know how accurate
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is in a real court. I'm going more by what
I've seen on TV, right right, where once the witness
answers a question a certain way, it opens the door
for our other line of questioning. Right, well, he opened
the door with the line of questioning. I think that
Aaron Rodgers opened the door for this. He just did
like he went public and Mark Mark Barfery was like, look,
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here's the here's the obvious thing. People are divided on.
Everybody loves Aaron and people like the Packers, and it
feels like there's a division. Here's our statement. We're keeping him.
We're gonna try and work it out. I actually don't
think there's any you know, it was he supposed to
not say anything in an update. Well, there wasn't even
a question really about Aaron Rodgers dividing the fan base
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like the The whole comment was somebody saying like, don't
let the bastards get you down, and so then he
brings Aaron Rodgers into it. Who I mean, it's not like, hey, Mark,
how is the Ard Roger situation you're gonna play out
in the off season? Thanks, he's asked a million times. Sure,
but you and I also know that they probably get
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hundreds of emails and they chose that one to end
up publishing and responding to. Okay, I actually have sided
with the Packers through all of this, But in this instance,
I actually think that Mark Murphy misplayed his hand. The
Packers misplayed their hand. I have sided with the Packers.
I didn't see anything terribly wrong with this. I thought
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that he was just stating of, hey, this is where
we are as of right, you know this is where
we are. Everybody knows where we are, and you know
he's not going anywhere. I thought that's why they did
what they did. I don't know. I don't which was
he supposed say nothing? Where you keep this in the house.
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I think we're not we're not saying not say the
I encourage you not say anything publicly. I I just
I to me, if that's what they had the problem
with Aaron Rodgers doing. Did they want to get out
their piece? Did they just want to reiterate? To me,
it just seemed very unsolicited to have the response that
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he had from the question that they received. Um. Yeah,
although I'm sure they're just remember this is the packer's
own website. I'm sure they're just getting inundated with questions, right,
and inundated with with thoughts and you know, and people
and and it's the elephant in the room. I just
I feel like that's what it is. It's the elephant
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in the room. And he's just going like, hey, look,
elephant in the room. We know you're all talking about it.
Here's the here's the deal. We're not giving up on
Aaron Rodgers. No thanks, we're keeping him and we're just
gonna deal. And and the question was from from greg
In to Luca Illinois. And this is this is what
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makes it so amazing, is you're right, They've got hundreds
of emails. I don't think greg from to Luke Illinois
was the only one to ask them about Aaron Rodgers.
Yet they used that statement that said, dear Mark, you've
done a great job. Don't let the bastards drag you down.
Washington needs a name. I suggest the generals like that
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was the question that prompted Mark Murphy to say, the
situation we faced with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base.
It's super weird. And and that's the point of they.
I guarantee they got a hundred other emails, but they
chose that one to address the Aaron Rodgers situation. Greg's statement,
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fresh out of to Luca Illinois, I just that's what's
so weird about it. So yeah, So, as I wrote
here last month, we remain committed to resolving things with
Aaron and want him to be our quarterback and beyond.
And then he mentioned the publicly, uh, you know, the
less both, I'd say publically the better. Then he goes
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and takes on the Washington football team nickname generally, what
are we doing? Well? I think there is something here
and and this is another kind of aside to it.
Doug Otlib show here on Fox Portrait as Dan Byron
Doug Gotlin, we're talking about Mark Murphy, who kind of unsolicited.
Weird responds to a question which had very little to
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do with Aaron Rodgers said, Hey, Aaron Rodgers, dividing our
fan base, which we both actually agree to be accurate. Um.
But but here's the here's the part that's interesting to me.
I've asked people, why don't the New England guys work
outside of New England? Like, look, because they've been good
for twenty years and Belichick's had complete control and there
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there aren't situations like that anywhere else in the NFL
where the owner stays out of it but trust you
and he'll write sizeable checks. The coaches really well respected,
kind of runs the whole show like and he can
be heavy handed because there's there's no he controls everything, right. So,
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if that's your only snapshot of NFL life, which many
of these NFL guys, that's they come in and they
start at the video guy and they move their way
up and they're only with the Patriots. If that's the
only snapshot of life, you think that's normal in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Mark Murphy may have thought himself. I was like, Hey,
everybody wants to know my opinion, I'm just gonna give
it to you. And here goes and I'll try and
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be clever about it. But that's because he's only in
Green Bay, wiscon Does that make sense? Am I making
sense to how I'm explaining it? Like you, you do
lack some perspective on what needs to be answered, how
it needs to be answered, because in Green Bay you
have remember you have no owner there. Yeah, there's a
board and and he's the president, so he's kind of
his own boss. Like that's there's really no owner there. Yeah,
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he's the he's the guy in charge. Like that's that
is for sure that I think that. I think that
there's a part of it. But Mark Murphy smart as well.
Mark Murphy, you know, played in the NFL. Mark Murphy's
a Northwestern guy and like there's you know, they're likes
he's not stupid, you know what they're doing. There's another
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thing about having the back of Brian good Aquin's later
on in the Male Bag as well of just yeah,
I think that he knew exactly what what he was
doing and tried to ah tried to get their piece
out there in in in innocent fashion, and I think
some people caught on. Ye be sure to catch the
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really really quiet with Laker fans, like your fans were huffing.
But remember when Lebron was backing down Jake Crowder and
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Andre Drummond was imitating him. Remember that. Yeah, it was
little early in the series for that, Lakers got some injuries,
ended up getting beat and uh and you know it's funny.
Last night so I I coach teams eleven to fourteen,
and our thirteen U team played in the semi finals
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of a tournament called the Calves Tournament. It's a good,
good tournament always. It's in uh the tournaments in Garden Grove, California,
in a place called the map, and on Saturday you
have pool play and we beat a team that was
like our nemesis, called the Callie Rebels and a good program.
They combined a couple of teams and they get after
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you defensively, and you know, they get into really into
the game. The parents get really in the game. And
Saturday we beat him and it was a good feeling
for our kids. So Sunday we play him again and
it's the semifinals and we had already played I guess
two games. Was our third game in probably five hours.
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So the kids are pretty and I only had seven yesterdays.
They're pretty fried, and so we we keep them at
arms distance most of the game. We're up about nine
or ten, and they're getting really things, getting really physical
and a little bit chippy, and one of the kids
on their team is is trying to trash talk a
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couple of my kids, and I have another kid who's
trying to defend his teammate, and we separate him and
I told my kids, I said, listen, fellas, this is
the way basketball works. You try and getting somebody's head,
You try and intimidate them. That's what they're trying to
do to you. And if that doesn't work, they try
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and fight you. And if you if those are the
things you do when you can't beat somebody straight up
in basketball, when you don't have as much basketball skill,
when you just you can't do it, that's where we are.
And I mean it ends up being kind of a mess.
That other coach lost is cool. Some of the kids
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lost their cool. And I think we won by either
nine or eleven, but that was because they called it
with a minute left and we had like six free
throws coming and the ball with a tea, you know whatever.
But I was really proud of my group for maintaining
their composure. But I told them, I said, look, if
you look at the Lakers series, same thing happened there.
When teams get beat and they can't beat you, they're
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gonna try and fight you, which is what Taj Hushman's
is going to try to do to me, because he's
a Laker guy through and through um and he's a
little bit bitter than a Lakers lost and every Laker
guy lasts at the Clippers. And now the Clippers are
still playing, although they're at their nemesis point, which is
the second round of the playoffs. T J. How are
you why that up? This album? That was really good?
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I'm good. Oh good man, it was so it was
fun to coach these kids. They end up we got
to go to overtime to win a championship. They played
four games. They were so I can't imagine. I'm tired
of those kids, like I'm tired of coaching them. They
had to be so tired today, but they they it
was pretty awesome. There's nothing like you, man, when you
coach kids and you lose to a team and they
think they can intimidate you when they come back and
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beat them, Man, it's not like it. Nothing like it
at all. Correct. Correct, it's the It's it's the absolute best.
And when you deal with a group of guys and
they've been playing together for a while now, it's it
makes it even even sweeter. Um, I want to get
the football in a second. But you are a hardcore
Laker guy. How much of this blame does Lebron deserve? Oh,
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we we're the best player. When you get all the credit,
you have to take some of the blame. That's just
the reality of it. But everybody knew without a d
and I've never correct me if I'm wrong. I've never
seen a collection a role players play so bad like
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they could not make a shot. And that was a
telling point, at least for me, that they really didn't
have a chance, man, but they could not. They didn't
adjust till the second half of Game six, when he
started playing Lebron is center, But that was when I
thought they adjusted. But before that one they cagged the
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paint shooter jump shot. They couldn't make it. So of
course Lebron has to take some of the blame because
when they win, he gets all the credit. Yeah, I mean,
I I do think you know one as father time
catch up with them a little bit, but too you know,
no one's very few teams are winning when their star
or co star isn't playing. Just not happening, right, You
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want to you want to pick out the series. And
by the way, in this case, Phoenix is pretty good.
It's not like they were the two seed playing against
the seventh seed and they didn't have Anthony Davis. I granted,
the Lakers would have been higher than the seventh seed
had they not gotten hurt, but I mean, I I
would chalk that much that one as much, if not more,
to injuries than anything else. And I said this some
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one an other day. The Lakers were the seventh seeds.
If you take Devin Booker or DeAndre eight out of
that Phoenix line up, do they beat the Lakers? I
probably go seven. You take Paul Georgia Kauai off the Clippers,
I mean, it's a different series. I would say that
about Dallas, but man Luca is so phenomenal that you
take coom Ever off that team. As long as he's
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in the line of bay, they still have a chance. Uh.
Speaking to the Clippers, did you think they were done?
I truly did, and I wanted them to be done.
But the Clippers are good. And what did I just
talked about with the Lakers. The Clippers road players stepped up.
Marcus Morris stepped up, Ggi Jackson stepped up. Those two
guys made Big three after Big three, And that's what
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you have to have if you're gonna win a championship.
Your role players have to play well when you need them.
And they hit timely threes consistently. Yeah, I know they were.
I thought Tyler made some great adjustments as well, right,
Like using tree Man is like a small ball five.
You know, he did Patrick Beverley Petricky didn't even take
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off his sweats, like, those are some hard decisions you
gotta make, and he made him. He pushed the right buttons.
He did an excellent job. He he earned his money.
He wasn't looking good though, wasn't wasn't good when they
were then it's like, oh, here we go again. But
he earned his money, and kudos of him. They found
a way to get it done. When me amongst everyone
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all they're done, I can counting them out and I
was guilty of that as well. And they just played well. Man.
You got to give him their credit. But Kauai Leonard
was phenomenal. He doesn't talk much, but his James speaks
volumes Game six and seven. He was out of this world.
And that's why they're playing utaw Jack, no question about it.
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Doug Otlib show here on Fox Sports trailer. Let's get
to football. You are a wide receiver savant um Julio
Jones what what are what are reasonable expectations for him
at this stage in his career coming off an injury
plague here if she's healthy, Wow, That's the key with
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Julio is she's just been He's been beat up, lady.
We we all know that he he's been hurt. But
if Julio is healthy, the sky's limit if he can
play sixteen games. Kim A. J. Brown and Derrick Henry,
what are you gonna do? You just hope the coach
doesn't get too to pass happy and kind of get
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away from what they are because they have all these weapons.
That's to me would probably the biggest key is not
to try to do too much because now you have
multiple cards, but you really only can drive one at
a time. Just just be smart with what they're doing.
Uh okay, But but they were losing Jonny Smith and
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and uh and replacings and John and then replacing him
with Julio Jones Like that was a big part of
what they did, right, play action and then hit tight
end play action. Then you have, you know, a lead
talented wide receiver. How much does it change now they
have to talent wide receivers, but you don't have the
same talent tight end. I think they'll evolve into very
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similar to what they were doing, Doug, but it will
be also different, meaning they can do the same thing
now it is just three wise instead of a double
tight inset and you're pretty much gonna get the same
type of look defensively, and it will make it a
little easier though, when when you have three wise, it
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pretty easy for the quarterback to see um single high
or too high, and so we'll make the reason a
little easier. But these coaches are smart, man. You can
you can pretty much do the same thing, just a
different way. Doug got live show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Mark Murphy came out and he answered an email on
Packers dot com and he said, look at Aaron this
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this thing has divided our fan base. It is Did
he say anything wrong in saying that? No. I mean,
when you have a player of Aaron Rodgers caliber, that's
gonna happen. You're gonna have people that agree with him
that are on this side, and you're gonna have the
die or agree Bay Packers fan like, I don't care
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who this is. I don't care who you are. I'm
rolling with my team. And he's correct in what he said.
It's divided the fan base and if you feel that way,
rectify it, figure out a solution and make sure both
parties are happy. Whatever that solution is, I don't know,
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but they can figure it out. If they want to. Oh,
I don't think. The same question, which is the other
part that he said, is you know, we want to
figure it out, we want to make it work. How
do you make it work? I mean for me, I
would go. You just gotta see and say, Okay, Aaron,
what do you want? Well, what do you want? If
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you if you really want to go? But the problem
is the draft is passed, So who's gonna give up?
They'll they'll give up capital, but it's not it's not
as valuable. And so do you do you you have
to keep them right now. If you're the Packers, it's
too late. You have to keep them there. There's no
point and you get rid of them now. There's really
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no point to get rid of them now. So the
point you trade the midway through the season or next offseason.
And that to me is the only way both parties
walk away and say Okay, I'm feel good about what
we've done. If not, it's a cluster, you know what, Like,
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how do you think Jordan Leftfield down with Aaron Rodgers
is really genuine? With me? Like, you just don't know
when when a rod comes back, it's gonna be a problem.
I don't care what anyone says. Oh, no question, it's
gonna be there's gonna be some issues there. But of
course you start playing games, he starts winning games, and
it doesn't in fact matter. Doug Otlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um okay, So with that in mind,
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let's let's pepper a little bit around the league. If
you were San Francisco, how would you handle your quarterback situation?
I would personally want to start Garoppolo out the gate.
I mean, you gotta let Trey lass and have a
lot of stars. He didn't play at a high level
and so you don't want to put him in that situation. Now,
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if he lights it up in O T A s
and training camp and he's just doing really well, you
have a shorter east for Jimmy G. But regardless, Jimmy
G has to be opening the starter. And if Trade
Lance can develop and advance his game from a mental perspective,
it gives you something to think about. But the ideal
situation Jimmy G plays well, they have a good year
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and see if they can trade him when the season
ends and move on to trade Lance if he develops
throughout his roop year. I was I was watching Chad
Johnson box and I wonder what you guys have been
boys for a long time. Junior college teammates, college teammates,
NFL teammates. How'd you boy doing the ring? I thought
he did well, man. I talked to him yesterday, probably
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talk to him a couple of times. Talked to him
yesterday morning, and I talked to him literally just before
he was walking to the ring, and just like, hey,
chap Man, be smart, usual leg givetingm angles, don't take
chances unless you feel like you can knock him out.
And so uh, I see if he got a little
comfortable in the third round. Did he get dropped? Yeah,
he got dropped. But like a truth champ, it ain't
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about how many times you get knocked down. We preached
this and every sport we play, it's how many times
you got up. He got up, He fought hard. I'm
proud of it because we can everybody can make memes
and everybody can say this, and everybody can say that,
get your button the ring. You get your button the ring.
Because it's different man, when it's just you and another man,
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you're nervous. I mean, it's a different game. I'm proud
of what he did. I thought he accounted very well
for himself, and in my opinion, he won the fight.
He won the first three rounds. You got dropped. But
if you know boxing, you in the first three rounds
at night, then you still win the fight. But I
thought he did very very well for himself. Have you
ever been the ring in a real fight, in a
real fight, No, I's fard plenty of times, but being
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in the ring, no, I haven't done it in a while. Um.
You know me the the competitor, and me says, oh,
I do perfectly fine. And Chad is sparred and boxed
a lot more recent than I have, and you can.
It's just it's not natural for us because we don't
do it on a regular basis. You tell, go, tell
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that guy the cover chat ten times and one on ones,
he's gonna lose all ten reps all ten. It's a
different ballgame. We we athletes and we competitors think, oh, man,
I can do this, I'll pick this up quick. But
when them uh punches is coming after, say Doug, a
lot of you you are said and done. Yeah, everybody
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was that. Everybody has a plan till you get punched,
until you get hit in the mouth. Everybody has a
plan and said, you get here chat out that punches. Okay,
I can take this, but what is he doing? Is
he trying to give him a high five when he
knocked him down? What was he doing there? I think
he was shocked, Doug. Honestly, I think he was shocked
that he got dropped because if you, buddy hadn't landed
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a punch on Chat pretty much the whole fight, not
not a Telly punch, and so I think that it's
shocked him. But anybody Chat is not a fighter. Man.
Chad is a fun loving dude. For him to get
in there and do what he did, kudos to him.
Like I saw tweing after the fight, how did I
do to what you do? Well? Very well? And so
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hopefully he didn't try to make this uh a yearly
thing for he had it, so to speak. But he
did well, man, and I think any athletes at his
box knows how well you did. T. J. Hushman's out
up on game is every Saturday, tend to Eastern Time, Plexico, Burst,
LaVar Arrington and of course a T. J. Houshman's out
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of Who's you the best? Man? Talk? To him, Hey man,
are you watching softball in the studio? I am watching softball.
Everybody I know I was watching softball. I actually had
some kids. We were watching the Clipper game yesterday in
this dude's band in one of those sprinter vans in
between games and the Clipper games over there, like, hey,
let's watch that softball. That softball is awesome. Everybody knows
watching the softball. Hey man, your Oklahoma State cow girls
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made a run at it, so I'll give you that.
They made a run at it. Kept me up late
on a Saturday night. Appreciate, appreciate you who thanks so much,
I dug, Take care man,
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you gotta You have a big train in the National
Football League. You have a president of football Operations claiming
that Aaron Rodgers divided their fan base. We have a
craziness in US soccer against Mexico, and oh yeah, by
the way, um gosh, there's a bunch of other stuff.
(01:04):
Then you have you have John Let me start. I'm
gonna actually start with John Rom in one second, okay,
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John Ram all right, Um, Dan buyers the perfect guy
for this because Dan is our golf expert and golf
kind of servant. Right. Um. Plus, the guy was a
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paternity leave during the p g A so he was
just all golfed out the entire time. And he is
a newborn, which means no golfer him for him. Um.
John Ram was leading by good margin on Saturday on
a PGA Tour event in at Merefield Village. Right, it's
called Memorial. It's it's an event that Tiger I think
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he's won seven times. Yeah, it's Jack Nicholas's tournament and
he loves playing and he usually plays well, so it's
the bottom when he's not there. So he tests positive
for COVID and he had to withdraw my my missing anything.
Um no, that's that was the case. Had a close
contact earlier in this week earlier in the week, and
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then was given the option to continue to play, uh
to go through the you know, rigorous testing, or withdraw
from the tournament. He chose to go through the testing
and continue to play. I have no sympathy for John
rom zero. Okay, if his doctors approved him getting the
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vaccinate the vaccine, I have zero sympathy form none right now.
I understand that everyone has their own story and has
their own doctor or maybe has their own stuff in
which they and look, I'm not telling you you have
to get the vaccine. I believe you should if your
doctor says you can. There's a very small minority of
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people who cannot get certain vaccines. If your doctor says
get it, you should get it genron specifically. And I
understand that there's a little bit of a dated nature
to what the p g A Tour is doing and
what most of these sports is doing. It's like, look,
I mean, everybody's out in public now, like what are
we doing? I understand, But you knew they were going
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to be testing. You knew this was the policy in place.
You have absolutely had every opportunity for several months to
get the vaccine and you chose not to. I can't
help you, all right, I don't establish the rules mere
Field Village and the p g A tour did. Those
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are the rules. And if you had your vaccine, you
can even if you tested positive, because you can get
it when you have the vaccine. You and go like, look, well,
what's the point I got I got the vaccine right,
which would be a fair argument. I don't understand the
guy's like who people who have the vaccine? And then
we're supposed to still, you know, wear a mask, be
under lock and key, and the government's come out and
(04:17):
said like, look, you have the vaccine, you can go back,
but it discourages people from getting the vaccine. He did not.
That was his choice. That's where this story should should
should go to. You can have whatever feeling you want
about the vaccine. I believe you're wrong unless your doctor
says you can't get it. Not because I've said it,
but enough, But doctors and scientists will will give you
(04:39):
fact upon fact and reason upon reason that you should
in fact go get it and your kids now canon
will My kids have begun the process of being vaccine
as well. But again, if you want to not, but
if it's your job, and your job is going to
thrust you into a locker room full of people. Your
job is going to take you to a golf course
full of people. And the way to protect yourself from
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having to withdraw when you're about to win a very
prestigious event whose total person's nine point three million dollars.
You don't take home the total person, I understand, but
it's a lot of money, and he was playing great golfing.
He's a great golfer. Your choice not to vaccine is
the story, not the arcane rules of the p G
A who like, look these rules, it's like a it's
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like a slow moving ship. It's hard to turn that
ship around, right, Well, get there eventually, but you knew
the rules, all right, Let's get to the Let's get
to the meat of what I really want to talk about,
which is the NBA. Tales of the Clippers demise have
been greatly exaggerated. And as I told Dan Buyer Friday Friday,
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we played a game. Wasn't Friday, Dan? And we played
a game like your most dangerous team in the playoffs, right?
And I said, like, look, I still think it's the Clippers,
even though at the time they were down three games
to two. Just my my point is that they still
have Kawhi Leonard, who in the in the last two
games looked like the best player on Earth. They still
have a good mix of bigs and littles and Paul
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George as that the second option. And I think, if
I'm being totally honest, I think Tyler was the better coach.
He made the adjustments and understood everything and figured it out.
It's it's like a it's a jigsaw puzzle and you're
sitting there going like this piece, no, this piece, no,
stop playing. Patrick Beverley started playing Luke Kennard. You know
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he played Trey Man is like a small ball five Like,
dude did things that we didn't think could be done
and pulled it off. And yeah, I was Kauai on
was that Friday night? Yeah? And and actually during our
game time, our psychic game, I asked you prior to
game six, who would be the best player on the
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floor that night, and you, without hesitation, said Kawhi Leonard.
And now, look, I like, I love Luca. He's good.
He's very very good, and he probably will I would
assume he's going to get much better. Um, Let's also
be honest that as special as he is and as
much as he's carrying a team, it there there's if
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this is a lot like the Lebron thing, right, Like,
he ends up exhausting himself and it can be hard
to play with. And then when he's out of the game,
you're like, we now we gotta play a completely different
style of basketball. And I thought Rick Carlile did a
great job of using Boban right, Boban all of a
sudden became this walking bucket because the Clippers refused to
use Zoo Bach. And that was because every time Zoo
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Batch in the game, they went right at Zoo Batch,
you know. And whereas when the Mavericks uh had Boban
in the game, they went to a two three zone
so that he didn't have to go and guard one guy,
he didn't have to guard screen role nearly nearly the same.
It was a great chess match, and I thought Tyler
wanted he made better adjustments. And it does go back
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to game three. Game three, you're up nineteen points and
you take out Luca in the first quarter. You can't
win a game in the first half. You can damn
sure lose it. I thought the Mavericks lost to den
end of the first quarter, four and a half minutes
later it was a three point game. Whereas if you
watched last night, or if you watched on Saturday night,
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you've noticed that Kawhi Leonard did not come out of
the game in the fourth quarter, when guy stars usually
take a little bit of arrest. So I just I
thought it was a great series. And every most every
team outside of the Warriors that um the year they
wanted before they won seventy three games. Most every team
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faces some sort of adversity that was their adversity. Doesn't
mean they're in the clear. But boys, if they didn't
show you something, I don't I don't know what you're
looking for. Otherwise, I don't know if if you're not
in press by what the Clippers did over the past
uh two games, specific epically when they cannot lose, your
(09:03):
back is against the wall. It is you know, your
fear of blowing up a team you know, and you
don't play Patrick Beverley did not play him a minute,
all right, stop playing rondo. For the most part, he
played he had three yesterday, he played like nine minutes,
but all of a sudden you start playing Luke Knard
and he played tree Man twenty six minutes, got it done.
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I think Carlisle cost himself the series in Game three.
I thought Tyler made better and smarter adjustments. I did
think that Carlisle adjusted to it and tried to make
his own adjustments, but I thought it was too late
once the Clippers woke up. That was kind of that.
That was kind of that. And now we have this
really weird situation. L A right and l A. Nobody
(09:52):
takes the Clippers seriously. They never really have. And there
are some Clipper fans, but it's overwhelmingly Laker fans who
still don't like Lebron He's still not one of us,
but hate the Clippers probably more. And now the Clippers
have a chance to do something if they can win
four more games they've never done before, which is get
to the third round, get to the conference finals. They've
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never been there before. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
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I Heart Radio a app. Uh. Let's let's get to
this story. Mark Murphy is the president of the Green
Bay Packers. He's formerly the general manager and he get
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kicked upstairs. That's in Brian Genkunst, who's only worked in
the Packers got promoted. The situation we face, this is
our purphy with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base.
The emails and letters I've received and reflect that fact.
As I wrote here last month and this is from
Packers dot com, we remain committed to resolving things with
Aaron and want him to be our quarterback in two
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thousand twenty one and beyond. We are working to resolve
that situation. Really is that the less both sides say
publicly the better. Um I I don't think that, Like
there's people like, wow, how could you possibly say that?
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Because it's the truth. Right. Aaron Rodgers is making you
choose between Aaron Rodgers and Brian Gunnankut's or Aaron Rodgers
and the Packers. It's inarguable you're either on team Aaron
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or you're on team Brian Gunnankunst. And his interview with
Kenny Mayne was, you know, just simply trying to get
the people. It's about the people. It's about the people.
It's about the people. And I don't say this. I
think Aaron is a bad person. I don't think he's
actually a very good person. I think he is uh.
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For people he uh eels that that need help, he
will help them. For people that are friends, he is
their friend. Obviously he and Brian Gonna comes not friends.
But if you didn't think it would divide a fan base,
you wouldn't have had to go to the interview to
try and get people on your side. You're making people choose.
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And here's the thing, um, here's the thing making you choose,
making you choose between one or the other. Not everybody's
gonna pick your side. There are going to people be
a lot of people don't like when people don't like them.
You even notice that. It's like, why don't send people
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right for president president? It's because people won't like you.
They won't like what you believe in. You're gonna have
to deal with the fact that in life, not everybody
likes you and not a lot of people there's a
lot of people that can't deal with that. But I
don't think what Mark if he said first, you know,
I'm sure he whatever his his uh size of the
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number wise of emails and texts and and letters from
people is I'm sure he's speaking from truth. And divided
fan base does not mean it's fifty it give me.
That's still a divided fan base. He didn't say it
was evenly divided. He didn't say people in our favor.
He just said like, look, we want to get this
worked out, but Aaron's kind of divided us. He ain't wrong, brother,
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not wrong. So I don't I think that this is
this is a family squabble, and Aaron Rodgers wants to
be emancipated. I think on some level from that. And
and I'm sure they're just like I am with my
fifteen year old daughter. She doesn't have two of them,
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but one of them is like, you know, I want
to do this, and I want to do that. It's like, okay,
if you want emancipation, we can fill out the paperwork
and go. But you know all those other things that
you do when you're emancipated, I don't have to pay
for them. You know what stopped right then and there,
and he sort of talking of emancipation. She was like,
what's emancipated? Means you're free, you're an adult, you can
do which point in fifteen years old, go for it,
but I don't actually have to pay for any of
the stuff I pay for if that happens anything, I mean,
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even now, it's out of the goodness of my heart,
but really then it's out of the goodness of my heart.
So Aaron Rodgers wants to be a man Spain. They're like, yeah, no,
now we have the under contract. We're good, let's work
it up, let's figure it out. But some people were
bothered by the language. And by all he's saying, he's
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dividing us by by dividing us, he's putting Aaron on
the opposite side of it, Like, no, Aaron did this,
Let's just be honest. And I also thought another interesting
part of the statement, and this is where where he said, like,
you know, we discourage them from sharing their thoughts publicly, which,
by the way, is one of the big issues with
Aaron Rodgers. First he leaked the story out about I
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wanted to be traded any they leaked the story out
about the forty niners, you know, and then he had
the interview with Kenny Maine as well as several other interviews.
He's allowed to do this, But I think what Mark
Murphy is saying is accurate. The more you say publicly,
the worst it actually is. Whether we stay together, we
break up by or do you see any way in
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which Aaron Rodgers shows up for mandatory minicamp? No, I don't.
Do you have a problem with what Mark Murphy wrote
where he said he's divided our fan base. I thought
it was unsolicited, and I actually thought it would have
been worded better if this statement would have if the
last line of not talking in the public was actually
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the first thing that he said, as opposed to the
last thing that he said explained, meaning like if he said, listen,
I think that these things are are best done in
private it or not done publicly. We've stated what we want,
Uh you know, we want Aaron to be a part
of the football team, and uh you know that's we
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We hope that he's here, YadA, YadA, YadA in that
way it because otherwise this just makes it sound like
he's trying to get in a zinger um or something
at the end, whereas opposed to, hey, this is my thought.
This is how we are, you know, going with it.
We'd we'd rather not do it. But if you do
want to know where we stand, this is where we
stand so you have probably I'm saying, don't share publicly. Um, yeah,
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when you just talked for you know, four sentences and
said that, you know, Aaron Rodgers has divided the fan base,
and then all of a sudden you say, like, we
it's best to keep these not public. Who's who's just
went public with it? M M. Here's what I'll this here.
This is a lot like you know in a courthouse
and in a court, and I don't know how accurate
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is in a real court. I'm going more by what
I've seen on TV, right right, where once the witness
answers a question a certain way, it opens the door
for our other line of questioning. Right, well, he opened
the door with the line of questioning. I think that
Aaron Rodgers opened the door for this. He just did
like he went public and Mark Mark Barfery was like, look,
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here's the here's the obvious thing. People are divided on.
Everybody loves Aaron and people like the Packers, and it
feels like there's a division. Here's our statement. We're keeping him.
We're gonna try and work it out. I actually don't
think there's any you know, it was he supposed to
not say anything in an update. Well, there wasn't even
a question really about Aaron Rodgers dividing the fan base
(17:44):
like the The whole comment was somebody saying like, don't
let the bastards get you down, and so then he
brings Aaron Rodgers into it. Who I mean, it's not like, hey, Mark,
how is the Ard Roger situation you're gonna play out
in the off season? Thanks, he's asked a million times. Sure,
but you and I also know that they probably get
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hundreds of emails and they chose that one to end
up publishing and responding to. Okay, I actually have sided
with the Packers through all of this, But in this instance,
I actually think that Mark Murphy misplayed his hand. The
Packers misplayed their hand. I have sided with the Packers.
I didn't see anything terribly wrong with this. I thought
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that he was just stating of, hey, this is where
we are as of right, you know this is where
we are. Everybody knows where we are, and you know
he's not going anywhere. I thought that's why they did
what they did. I don't know. I don't which was
he supposed say nothing? Where you keep this in the house.
(18:52):
I think we're not we're not saying not say the
I encourage you not say anything publicly. I I just
I to me, if that's what they had the problem
with Aaron Rodgers doing. Did they want to get out
their piece? Did they just want to reiterate? To me,
it just seemed very unsolicited to have the response that
(19:12):
he had from the question that they received. Um. Yeah,
although I'm sure they're just remember this is the packer's
own website. I'm sure they're just getting inundated with questions, right,
and inundated with with thoughts and you know, and people
and and it's the elephant in the room. I just
I feel like that's what it is. It's the elephant
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in the room. And he's just going like, hey, look,
elephant in the room. We know you're all talking about it.
Here's the here's the deal. We're not giving up on
Aaron Rodgers. No thanks, we're keeping him and we're just
gonna deal. And and the question was from from greg
In to Luca Illinois. And this is this is what
(19:54):
makes it so amazing, is you're right, They've got hundreds
of emails. I don't think greg from to Luke Illinois
was the only one to ask them about Aaron Rodgers.
Yet they used that statement that said, dear Mark, you've
done a great job. Don't let the bastards drag you down.
Washington needs a name. I suggest the generals like that
(20:15):
was the question that prompted Mark Murphy to say, the
situation we faced with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base.
It's super weird. And and that's the point of they.
I guarantee they got a hundred other emails, but they
chose that one to address the Aaron Rodgers situation. Greg's statement,
(20:39):
fresh out of to Luca Illinois, I just that's what's
so weird about it. So yeah, So, as I wrote
here last month, we remain committed to resolving things with
Aaron and want him to be our quarterback and beyond.
And then he mentioned the publicly, uh, you know, the
less both, I'd say publically the better. Then he goes
(21:01):
and takes on the Washington football team nickname generally, what
are we doing? Well? I think there is something here
and and this is another kind of aside to it.
Doug Otlib show here on Fox Portrait as Dan Byron
Doug Gotlin, we're talking about Mark Murphy, who kind of unsolicited.
Weird responds to a question which had very little to
(21:22):
do with Aaron Rodgers said, Hey, Aaron Rodgers, dividing our
fan base, which we both actually agree to be accurate. Um.
But but here's the here's the part that's interesting to me.
I've asked people, why don't the New England guys work
outside of New England? Like, look, because they've been good
for twenty years and Belichick's had complete control and there
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there aren't situations like that anywhere else in the NFL
where the owner stays out of it but trust you
and he'll write sizeable checks. The coaches really well respected,
kind of runs the whole show like and he can
be heavy handed because there's there's no he controls everything, right. So,
(22:07):
if that's your only snapshot of NFL life, which many
of these NFL guys, that's they come in and they
start at the video guy and they move their way
up and they're only with the Patriots. If that's the
only snapshot of life, you think that's normal in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Mark Murphy may have thought himself. I was like, Hey,
everybody wants to know my opinion, I'm just gonna give
it to you. And here goes and I'll try and
(22:27):
be clever about it. But that's because he's only in
Green Bay, wiscon Does that make sense? Am I making
sense to how I'm explaining it? Like you, you do
lack some perspective on what needs to be answered, how
it needs to be answered, because in Green Bay you
have remember you have no owner there. Yeah, there's a
board and and he's the president, so he's kind of
his own boss. Like that's there's really no owner there. Yeah,
(22:51):
he's the he's the guy in charge. Like that's that
is for sure that I think that. I think that
there's a part of it. But Mark Murphy smart as well.
Mark Murphy, you know, played in the NFL. Mark Murphy's
a Northwestern guy and like there's you know, they're likes
he's not stupid, you know what they're doing. There's another
(23:12):
thing about having the back of Brian good Aquin's later
on in the Male Bag as well of just yeah,
I think that he knew exactly what what he was
doing and tried to ah tried to get their piece
out there in in in innocent fashion, and I think
some people caught on. Ye be sure to catch the
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Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. It got
really really quiet with Laker fans, like your fans were huffing.
But remember when Lebron was backing down Jake Crowder and
(24:20):
Andre Drummond was imitating him. Remember that. Yeah, it was
little early in the series for that, Lakers got some injuries,
ended up getting beat and uh and you know it's funny.
Last night so I I coach teams eleven to fourteen,
and our thirteen U team played in the semi finals
(24:42):
of a tournament called the Calves Tournament. It's a good,
good tournament always. It's in uh the tournaments in Garden Grove, California,
in a place called the map, and on Saturday you
have pool play and we beat a team that was
like our nemesis, called the Callie Rebels and a good program.
They combined a couple of teams and they get after
(25:04):
you defensively, and you know, they get into really into
the game. The parents get really in the game. And
Saturday we beat him and it was a good feeling
for our kids. So Sunday we play him again and
it's the semifinals and we had already played I guess
two games. Was our third game in probably five hours.
(25:25):
So the kids are pretty and I only had seven yesterdays.
They're pretty fried, and so we we keep them at
arms distance most of the game. We're up about nine
or ten, and they're getting really things, getting really physical
and a little bit chippy, and one of the kids
on their team is is trying to trash talk a
(25:46):
couple of my kids, and I have another kid who's
trying to defend his teammate, and we separate him and
I told my kids, I said, listen, fellas, this is
the way basketball works. You try and getting somebody's head,
You try and intimidate them. That's what they're trying to
do to you. And if that doesn't work, they try
(26:07):
and fight you. And if you if those are the
things you do when you can't beat somebody straight up
in basketball, when you don't have as much basketball skill,
when you just you can't do it, that's where we are.
And I mean it ends up being kind of a mess.
That other coach lost is cool. Some of the kids
(26:28):
lost their cool. And I think we won by either
nine or eleven, but that was because they called it
with a minute left and we had like six free
throws coming and the ball with a tea, you know whatever.
But I was really proud of my group for maintaining
their composure. But I told them, I said, look, if
you look at the Lakers series, same thing happened there.
When teams get beat and they can't beat you, they're
(26:49):
gonna try and fight you, which is what Taj Hushman's
is going to try to do to me, because he's
a Laker guy through and through um and he's a
little bit bitter than a Lakers lost and every Laker
guy lasts at the Clippers. And now the Clippers are
still playing, although they're at their nemesis point, which is
the second round of the playoffs. T J. How are
you why that up? This album? That was really good?
(27:16):
I'm good. Oh good man, it was so it was
fun to coach these kids. They end up we got
to go to overtime to win a championship. They played
four games. They were so I can't imagine. I'm tired
of those kids, like I'm tired of coaching them. They
had to be so tired today, but they they it
was pretty awesome. There's nothing like you, man, when you
coach kids and you lose to a team and they
think they can intimidate you when they come back and
(27:38):
beat them, Man, it's not like it. Nothing like it
at all. Correct. Correct, it's the It's it's the absolute best.
And when you deal with a group of guys and
they've been playing together for a while now, it's it
makes it even even sweeter. Um, I want to get
the football in a second. But you are a hardcore
Laker guy. How much of this blame does Lebron deserve? Oh,
(27:58):
we we're the best player. When you get all the credit,
you have to take some of the blame. That's just
the reality of it. But everybody knew without a d
and I've never correct me if I'm wrong. I've never
seen a collection a role players play so bad like
(28:19):
they could not make a shot. And that was a
telling point, at least for me, that they really didn't
have a chance, man, but they could not. They didn't
adjust till the second half of Game six, when he
started playing Lebron is center, But that was when I
thought they adjusted. But before that one they cagged the
(28:39):
paint shooter jump shot. They couldn't make it. So of
course Lebron has to take some of the blame because
when they win, he gets all the credit. Yeah, I mean,
I I do think you know one as father time
catch up with them a little bit, but too you know,
no one's very few teams are winning when their star
or co star isn't playing. Just not happening, right, You
(29:01):
want to you want to pick out the series. And
by the way, in this case, Phoenix is pretty good.
It's not like they were the two seed playing against
the seventh seed and they didn't have Anthony Davis. I granted,
the Lakers would have been higher than the seventh seed
had they not gotten hurt, but I mean, I I
would chalk that much that one as much, if not more,
to injuries than anything else. And I said this some
(29:21):
one an other day. The Lakers were the seventh seeds.
If you take Devin Booker or DeAndre eight out of
that Phoenix line up, do they beat the Lakers? I
probably go seven. You take Paul Georgia Kauai off the Clippers,
I mean, it's a different series. I would say that
about Dallas, but man Luca is so phenomenal that you
take coom Ever off that team. As long as he's
(29:42):
in the line of bay, they still have a chance. Uh.
Speaking to the Clippers, did you think they were done?
I truly did, and I wanted them to be done.
But the Clippers are good. And what did I just
talked about with the Lakers. The Clippers road players stepped up.
Marcus Morris stepped up, Ggi Jackson stepped up. Those two
guys made Big three after Big three, And that's what
(30:06):
you have to have if you're gonna win a championship.
Your role players have to play well when you need them.
And they hit timely threes consistently. Yeah, I know they were.
I thought Tyler made some great adjustments as well, right,
Like using tree Man is like a small ball five.
You know, he did Patrick Beverley Petricky didn't even take
(30:26):
off his sweats, like, those are some hard decisions you
gotta make, and he made him. He pushed the right buttons.
He did an excellent job. He he earned his money.
He wasn't looking good though, wasn't wasn't good when they
were then it's like, oh, here we go again. But
he earned his money, and kudos of him. They found
a way to get it done. When me amongst everyone
(30:50):
all they're done, I can counting them out and I
was guilty of that as well. And they just played well. Man.
You got to give him their credit. But Kauai Leonard
was phenomenal. He doesn't talk much, but his James speaks
volumes Game six and seven. He was out of this world.
And that's why they're playing utaw Jack, no question about it.
(31:11):
Doug Otlib show here on Fox Sports trailer. Let's get
to football. You are a wide receiver savant um Julio
Jones what what are what are reasonable expectations for him
at this stage in his career coming off an injury
plague here if she's healthy, Wow, That's the key with
(31:31):
Julio is she's just been He's been beat up, lady.
We we all know that he he's been hurt. But
if Julio is healthy, the sky's limit if he can
play sixteen games. Kim A. J. Brown and Derrick Henry,
what are you gonna do? You just hope the coach
doesn't get too to pass happy and kind of get
(31:54):
away from what they are because they have all these weapons.
That's to me would probably the biggest key is not
to try to do too much because now you have
multiple cards, but you really only can drive one at
a time. Just just be smart with what they're doing.
Uh okay, But but they were losing Jonny Smith and
(32:16):
and uh and replacings and John and then replacing him
with Julio Jones Like that was a big part of
what they did, right, play action and then hit tight
end play action. Then you have, you know, a lead
talented wide receiver. How much does it change now they
have to talent wide receivers, but you don't have the
same talent tight end. I think they'll evolve into very
(32:38):
similar to what they were doing, Doug, but it will
be also different, meaning they can do the same thing
now it is just three wise instead of a double
tight inset and you're pretty much gonna get the same
type of look defensively, and it will make it a
little easier though, when when you have three wise, it
(33:00):
pretty easy for the quarterback to see um single high
or too high, and so we'll make the reason a
little easier. But these coaches are smart, man. You can
you can pretty much do the same thing, just a
different way. Doug got live show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Mark Murphy came out and he answered an email on
Packers dot com and he said, look at Aaron this
(33:22):
this thing has divided our fan base. It is Did
he say anything wrong in saying that? No. I mean,
when you have a player of Aaron Rodgers caliber, that's
gonna happen. You're gonna have people that agree with him
that are on this side, and you're gonna have the
die or agree Bay Packers fan like, I don't care
(33:42):
who this is. I don't care who you are. I'm
rolling with my team. And he's correct in what he said.
It's divided the fan base and if you feel that way,
rectify it, figure out a solution and make sure both
parties are happy. Whatever that solution is, I don't know,
(34:02):
but they can figure it out. If they want to. Oh,
I don't think. The same question, which is the other
part that he said, is you know, we want to
figure it out, we want to make it work. How
do you make it work? I mean for me, I
would go. You just gotta see and say, Okay, Aaron,
what do you want? Well, what do you want? If
(34:22):
you if you really want to go? But the problem
is the draft is passed, So who's gonna give up?
They'll they'll give up capital, but it's not it's not
as valuable. And so do you do you you have
to keep them right now. If you're the Packers, it's
too late. You have to keep them there. There's no
point and you get rid of them now. There's really
(34:45):
no point to get rid of them now. So the
point you trade the midway through the season or next offseason.
And that to me is the only way both parties
walk away and say Okay, I'm feel good about what
we've done. If not, it's a cluster, you know what, Like,
(35:06):
how do you think Jordan Leftfield down with Aaron Rodgers
is really genuine? With me? Like, you just don't know
when when a rod comes back, it's gonna be a problem.
I don't care what anyone says. Oh, no question, it's
gonna be there's gonna be some issues there. But of
course you start playing games, he starts winning games, and
it doesn't in fact matter. Doug Otlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um okay, So with that in mind,
(35:31):
let's let's pepper a little bit around the league. If
you were San Francisco, how would you handle your quarterback situation?
I would personally want to start Garoppolo out the gate.
I mean, you gotta let Trey lass and have a
lot of stars. He didn't play at a high level
and so you don't want to put him in that situation. Now,
(35:52):
if he lights it up in O T A s
and training camp and he's just doing really well, you
have a shorter east for Jimmy G. But regardless, Jimmy
G has to be opening the starter. And if Trade
Lance can develop and advance his game from a mental perspective,
it gives you something to think about. But the ideal
situation Jimmy G plays well, they have a good year
(36:14):
and see if they can trade him when the season
ends and move on to trade Lance if he develops
throughout his roop year. I was I was watching Chad
Johnson box and I wonder what you guys have been
boys for a long time. Junior college teammates, college teammates,
NFL teammates. How'd you boy doing the ring? I thought
he did well, man. I talked to him yesterday, probably
(36:38):
talk to him a couple of times. Talked to him
yesterday morning, and I talked to him literally just before
he was walking to the ring, and just like, hey,
chap Man, be smart, usual leg givetingm angles, don't take
chances unless you feel like you can knock him out.
And so uh, I see if he got a little
comfortable in the third round. Did he get dropped? Yeah,
he got dropped. But like a truth champ, it ain't
(37:00):
about how many times you get knocked down. We preached
this and every sport we play, it's how many times
you got up. He got up, He fought hard. I'm
proud of it because we can everybody can make memes
and everybody can say this, and everybody can say that,
get your button the ring. You get your button the ring.
Because it's different man, when it's just you and another man,
(37:21):
you're nervous. I mean, it's a different game. I'm proud
of what he did. I thought he accounted very well
for himself, and in my opinion, he won the fight.
He won the first three rounds. You got dropped. But
if you know boxing, you in the first three rounds
at night, then you still win the fight. But I
thought he did very very well for himself. Have you
ever been the ring in a real fight, in a
real fight, No, I's fard plenty of times, but being
(37:43):
in the ring, no, I haven't done it in a while. Um.
You know me the the competitor, and me says, oh,
I do perfectly fine. And Chad is sparred and boxed
a lot more recent than I have, and you can.
It's just it's not natural for us because we don't
do it on a regular basis. You tell, go, tell
(38:04):
that guy the cover chat ten times and one on ones,
he's gonna lose all ten reps all ten. It's a
different ballgame. We we athletes and we competitors think, oh, man,
I can do this, I'll pick this up quick. But
when them uh punches is coming after, say Doug, a
lot of you you are said and done. Yeah, everybody
(38:24):
was that. Everybody has a plan till you get punched,
until you get hit in the mouth. Everybody has a
plan and said, you get here chat out that punches. Okay,
I can take this, but what is he doing? Is
he trying to give him a high five when he
knocked him down? What was he doing there? I think
he was shocked, Doug. Honestly, I think he was shocked
that he got dropped because if you, buddy hadn't landed
(38:45):
a punch on Chat pretty much the whole fight, not
not a Telly punch, and so I think that it's
shocked him. But anybody Chat is not a fighter. Man.
Chad is a fun loving dude. For him to get
in there and do what he did, kudos to him.
Like I saw tweing after the fight, how did I
do to what you do? Well? Very well? And so
(39:09):
hopefully he didn't try to make this uh a yearly
thing for he had it, so to speak. But he
did well, man, and I think any athletes at his
box knows how well you did. T. J. Hushman's out
up on game is every Saturday, tend to Eastern Time, Plexico, Burst,
LaVar Arrington and of course a T. J. Houshman's out
(39:30):
of Who's you the best? Man? Talk? To him, Hey man,
are you watching softball in the studio? I am watching softball.
Everybody I know I was watching softball. I actually had
some kids. We were watching the Clipper game yesterday in
this dude's band in one of those sprinter vans in
between games and the Clipper games over there, like, hey,
let's watch that softball. That softball is awesome. Everybody knows
watching the softball. Hey man, your Oklahoma State cow girls
(39:53):
made a run at it, so I'll give you that.
They made a run at it. Kept me up late
on a Saturday night. Appreciate, appreciate you who thanks so much,
I dug, Take care man,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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