June 23, 2021 • 56 mins
Doug Gottlieb talks about the wild ending to Game 2 of the Western Conference Finals and explains why Ty Lue deserves the majority of the blame for the Clippers’ loss. He says the Celtics’ hire of Ime Udoka is an example of a growing trending among coaching hires. Doug chats with FOX Sports 910 host Jody Oehler about Phoenix’s reaction to the “Valley-oop!” and the impact that Chris Paul has had even while quarantining in another state. He’s joined by PGA Golfer Max Homa to discuss the Traveler’s Championship and the absence of Tiger Woods from the sport of golf. Finally, Doug fixes a major issue that occurs at the end of NBA games.
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m mm hmmmm. What a game last night? What a game?
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And there's a lot of other stuff to talk about,
baseball players stripping down, frustration, frustrated at t s A
checking them every time they try and pitch. Of course,
we get ready for U Milwaukee and Atlanta. We're gonna
pull up play with sound for you at some point.
Can we can we play first first? Fake sound? Did
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you guys hear that what Molly Carram said and what
they were talking. They were making fun of Stephen A
for having travel to Milwaukee for a series and Molly Carram,
who has friendly, nice lady, I've done it for a
long time, and and so what you have to do
is you have to we do. They gotta do this
in sports as well, Like good people can say dumb things,
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smart people can say dumb things, good players can can
can make dumb plays. Um, And she said to Milwaukee
is a terrible city and that it was an all timer.
It wasn't just that you're talking about a city that's
actually a great summer city like Milwaukee. Chicago. Chicago's dunbelievab
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studies summer city. The weather isn't actually as nice in
Chicago as it is Milwaukee. Uh, Minneapolis, northern Midwest is
big time, so is New England in the summer. Um.
You know, there's there's a reason that people still live
there when the weather is terrible in the winter, because
the summer is pretty epic, right, Like anybody who lives
in Michigan will tell you. You go to the lake
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anywhere in Michigan in the summer and it's pretty obscenely nice.
But that's not the part that's just strikes me as
stupid and arrogant to say it was also uttered and
the stops on the way there. All right, let's let
me just stay with the rest of us, know, Like, look,
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Atlanta has fun culture, terrible summer city. It is humid
and gross. Milwaukee awesome summer city. But like the worst
part about Molly Carram's I guess take in A and
and this has nothing to do with her being a woman.
Her role as hosts to not give opinion, right, So
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she's giving opinion on something and by the way, you
know Steve and A is trying to make a hot
take on picking teams or whatever, giving opinion, and then
she's like, you're The worst part is the stops on
the plane. First of all, there are non stops in Milwaukee's.
Second of all, if you know anything but Milwaukee, you
can actually fly in Chicago rather easily and you'll get
a car st start of all, like, dude, you're flying
first class. Shut up, what are you doing? God? People
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say dumb things. They also say dumb things about games.
All right. The the end of the game last night
was amazing, amazing on a multitude of levels. I think
with nine seconds to go is where you can start.
There's a lot more that goes into the game and
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where the Suns were probably the better team, and the
Clippers tried to steal one late, but they did. There
was a deflection um and the Clippers got the ball back.
The time out was called. They throw the ball into
Paul George. He promptly misses two free throws. Now Paul
George six and six, five of them from the free
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to the line, so he was five of eight. But
he did score nine points in the final two forty one,
including the go ahead buckets in the final thirty seconds.
But then, of course missed two free throws. They're up
one eight point whatever seconds to go, So of course
after miss free throws, let's start with the ms miss
free throws. Do people understand that you can miss and
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not choke? Do people understand that? Now? I understand that that. Uh,
Paul George has a little bit of history of making
some bone headed plays and struggling with the tension and pressure,
and probably has choked in the past in the playoffs.
But if you watch those two free throws, those are
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not choked free throws. The first one is around and out.
That's it's you never want to miss, but that's is
called a good miss. And the second one he hit
the heel of the rim that was just long, which
usually choking is when you leave it edge short. So
the Suns get the basketball back, they call time out.
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They throw it in to um to Devin Booker, and
it was to what tyd Loo did was really smart.
They doubled Devin Booker on the first bounce to get
the ball out of his hands. The ball ends up
going to the corner and a three pointer is taken,
and that's where things kind of get crazy. The first
rule is when of three is taken in one corner,
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secent of the time it comes off to the opposite direction.
So you have to box out, even though it's pushing
and shoving in your back and you have to know
the ball is coming there. I think it was man
Terrence Man who uh didn't have a good enough box out,
got pushed in the back a little bit and then
he got caught kind of swiping the ball out of
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bounds and it might have gone off DeAndre And we
never saw the replay anyway, So a point eight seconds
to go, instead of there being a time out because
Phine didn't have one, we have a review. The review
becomes a de facto time out. This is going to
be a topic during the show. How do we fix
the replay stuff. This is how the game ended. Grotter
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waiting with it lives that under Yes, it's good deanre
eight as far as the basket and M deanre eight
put it over the rema. M. This is DeAndre Ayton
on the final play. Once I said that first screen
of camp, I said, I said, I tried to set
set up Zoo black to, you know, for Book to
have a good angle with him. And I believe once
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my feet touched the paint where I can go off
right left one too, not many people are gonna be
up there with me. So that's why that's where I
got confident at once I really got that gay there.
Nobody bumped me or you know it was up man,
you know that was it. This is Paul George after
the game. I mean, I'm not gonna put too much
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on that. Um, Obviously it was you know, opportunity that
was missed. I'm always confident that the free throw line. UM,
I've always been very successful and clutched moments at the
free throw line. Tonight that was just unsuccessful extended the league. So, UM,
I'm not gonna put too much on that. We still
wearing position and winning ball game late in the game.
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If I know this team correctly. UM, the fight we have, um,
you know, going into Game three and the fight that
we have to believe that you know we're going to
change the series. Um, that's who we've been and that's
who we are, and so UM, I'm very confident in
our group. And UM you know, uh fact of the matter,
as they did what they were supposed to. They won
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their two games on their floor. Um, we gotta go
home and protect our house. That was That's Paul George
after the game. UM. I tend to agree with him, like,
you didn't shoot him badly, but you can't miss him both.
And you can't miss him both when you're the guy
who goes and demands the basketball, Like if you happy
to get caught with the basketball and get fouled and
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you missed two, that's one thing. But when you call
time out, you set up an in bounced play and
you're the first option because you're an eighties. He can't
he can't go over too. You can't do it. You
can't do it. So he didn't choke, but he did
miss and they're inopportune. Mrs. Who's the blame for giving
up the alley? You And my argument would be probably
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three or four people I put it on Tylu because
they should have been switching there as DeAndre and said,
nobody bumped him because there were no no switches. Look,
Etan did grab the jersey of of Zoo Botch and
kind of throw him right into the body of Devin Booker,
which is a brilliant move. I mean, I guess my
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technical definition it can be fouled. That has never been
called a foul ever in my lifetime. Um So, if
your zoo Botch, you have to not lose contact, no
matter if he grabs your jersey or not, you have
to not be body to body. He cannot cut to
the basket. DeMarcus Cousins I don't think should have been
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in that game because he didn't do much in terms
of pressuring the ball. He didn't take away the basket.
She's supposed to take away the basket. For the first
three seconds, you jump up and down as much as
you can, go crazy one to three, and then then
you can cover the corner. Because of the last second,
that's when guys like a Devin Booker would have come
up in the corner and shot the basketball. But some
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of this is also on Tyler not switching everything and
the person that was bad, and the play was amazing
and the past is even better, as was the catch,
Dan Buyer, would you think of the end of that game? Wow?
I mean it took a long long time. I I
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will say this, I thought that it was very good
at the broadcast team to clarify the goaltending rules, because
I think that's what most people thought initially, that oh,
that's goaltending. The ball was in the cylinder. So I
thought it was a great job by the the TV
crew of Jeff Van Gundy and uh and Mark Jackson
and Mike Breen to to say that, but that's the play,
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that's that's the play, that Phoenix that most people learned
that rule. I think it was like three years ago
when the Suns ran out of bounds play in a
regular season game and through it right kind of to
the rim and got a tip in dunk. I think
it was for Tyson Chandler and that and that was
the first time that most of America who watched his
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basketball time watched it, and I had learned that rule.
I thought, I thought that was the case, and that
was in fact the case, and so when I saw it,
I was like, well, that's ballgame. I didn't know what
people were even yelling about. Like, you know, I understand
you're worried about Devin Booker, you know, catching shooting point eight.
Uh that maybe that would be your worry. I just yeah,
to to allow that past to happen, it's just well,
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the week's side guys should have been in help as well,
because you can't you physically can't make that past the
week's side corner. So um, there's one other I don't know,
Patrick every like they should have bumped him. He shouldn't
have had a free run to the basket and it
should have been a switch and Bok Booker is the
one that set the pick on on Zobos too, I believe.
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So that was that was gonna be their play. So
here I'm thinking the Clippers are all worried about Booker
and Bookers. No, it's it's a look if you if
they would have switched, then Booker would have popped out
and he would have had a big guy on him, right,
which normally you don't want. But again with point eight
seconds to go, a big hand, you know, in your face.
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But that that was that was that play. The play
is you know, if they don't switch, you throw it
to the room. If they do switch, you hit Booker
or book Booker could have back cup for a little
lob himself. Yeah, zo Bach was late, um, and he
just didn't get off his feet. What happened was he
was he was They had eight and first set one
screen which kind of opened up zoo Botch a little bit,
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and then he was late and then if you watch,
he have zoobos jersey and threw him in the Booker
and that's when a switch should have occurred. Anyway, great
basket was a great game, great pass, great pass, good basketball,
close game, miss free throws, unbelievable crowd like you know
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it was. It was really excited. It's easier when you
don't have a dog in the hunt. Although I do
have the Clippers getting to the finals, but but it
is easier to just go, hey, that was really good best.
I will say this, I think that the silver lining
if you're a Clippers fan, they probably shouldn't have won
the game anyway. It wasn't like they lead throughout and
then that was the one that ended in the Sun's.
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I felt that the Sons were the better team last night. Um,
so maybe there's that silver lining, Like if like if
you thought that you had one, you know, like the
Sixers did against the Hawks or the Bucks did against
the Nets in in Game five, maybe that one stings
a little bit more. But I don't know if I
ever thought that the Clippers had that game. I thought
that they were on the verge of stealing it, and
then they just didn't steal it. You have the ball
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with eight seconds to go in a one point lead,
the game should at least go to overtime. That would
be my take, right, So did they have it one? No?
But in the NBA, the competency usually see it the
free to line. They should have made two free throws
and then figured out a way to foul to win
the game. And if they didn't foul, worst case scenario
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to give up a three point shot. Yes, John Ramos
really quickly that three pointer that was taken that when
the long off the rim. Would you consider that a
shot that you would want your player to take if
he's open or I thought that was a horrible play
with your down by a one point and but but
but is that what you want? Do you want the
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guy to take a three point shot with like eight
seconds left to go if he's wide open or would
you rather try to be more like drive to the
basket and get two points? Because down by one point? Who? What? Which?
Which it was? The last? It was the one that
they passed in to Devin Booker and he passed into
the corner and the guy took the point shot. They
were down by wife don't know who that just prior
to the ball being knocked out of bounce. Yeah, that
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was that's what's his name? The kid from Villanovo was
opening the corner. Would you want your player to do?
Like I thought that was a horrible shot when your
dom a point and like that was I couldn't believe
that was a play you drew up. Well, that wasn't
the play they drew up. What happened was the Clippers
double teamed, uh Devin Booker and he was kind of
stuck on the sideline and uh they you know, they
made the one extra pass to the old man. I
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would say, is that the play? That the shot that
you want? I mean that that is a shot that
you have to be able to shoot to play in
the NBA. That is one of the most practice shots
um in the NBA period stop um. So it's the
shot that the defense gave you and it was an
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open shot. I didn't think he should have kicked out
his leg. I thought that kind of distracted him. But
but yeah, I mean, I again, you're not gonna be able.
Miles Bridges was only one of or whatever, but he
was left open Jake Crowder made to What really should
have happened was when they doubled Jake Crowder. If Jake
Crowder cuts now of a sudden, trying to think who
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rotated there. But I still think that Bridges would have
been open because you would have cut with Jake Crowder.
But Crowder smartly made the extra pass. I mean, think
about Jake Crowder only scored two points. You know one
steel couple rebounds, didn't make a shot, didn't make a
three point shot. But that pass to Miles Bridges and
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the obviously the alley you excuse me, Micail Bridges, sorry,
wrong Bridges. Michail Bridges open in the corner. So to
answer your question, like, is that the play you got
drawn up? No, but the Clippers took him out of
the play that they got drawn up because they double
teamed the basketball. And when you get in the scrambled
situation and open corner, of three is not a bad shot.
The better that, thank you. You know, at some point
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you gotta take what the defense gives you. You know,
it's it's a lot like what that last play was
where Dan Buyers like, hey, I thought they were gonna
run something for Devin Booker. And again this is this
is one of the things in basketball that drives me crazy,
is there are some teams that the only thing they
do for shooters is run them off screens, whereas the
best thing to do for a shooter is make them
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a screener. Because now you put the defense in that conundrum,
do I stay with the shooter and leave the cutter
or do I bump the cutter and leave the shooter,
Because if they would have left DeAndre Ayton to guard
at Devin Booker would have popped out and possibly been
one up for a jump shot. That that's the design
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of the play. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio a app. So the Celtic Society made a
dooka who um, We're like same Jen, He's a Portland dude,
high school in Portland, transfer back to play for Portland's
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State UM and then total grinder like made it through
the that back when it was the D League, made
it to the league, then bounce all around overseas back here,
played in the NBA, never played a full season, but
basically made the Spurs. Had great relationships with the Marcus
all Drichman. When the Marcus Aldreds signed with san Antonio, Like,
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there was a lot a lot of people thought that
it was their relationship that he was able to convince
the Marcus Aldreds to sign with san Antonio, and then
he went from playing right to being part of the
Spurs system. He's been an assistant with the Sixers and
then of course this year with the Nets. So he's
head coach. And there's a report out that Brad Stevens
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uh talked to Jalen Brown, talked to Jayson Tatum and
they were both totally on board. It was one of
the guys that they wanted and he had worked under
Brad Stevens when Brad was coached with the USA Basketball,
So like all of that makes sense, but this is
this is the big thing. I'm just telling you. This
hiring cycle is going to be about the email eudokas,
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the guys who have played in the league that can
relate to current players in the league. That's just the
players have spoken, and this is very much a player's league. Now, Look,
there does come to a point where you're gonna have
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to at some point be the bad guy. But I
really feel like this is what the league is going
to like, it is going to and will look like
in years to come. Right, So, I mean, I'm I'm
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interested in um in in so much of what's going
to happen to some of these other jobs, right, Like
David Vanderpool, I'm I'm surprised he didn't at the Portland's job.
David Vanderpool has been an assistant in Portland for seven years.
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What's what's interesting about the Portland thing is Damian Lillard
was critical of the Minnesota Timberwolves when they didn't um
hire Vanderpool as the interim coach when Ryan Saunders was fired. Okay,
so he stands up for his guy when he's in Minnesota.
Now the job is open, and he hasn't said a
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word about David Vanderpole, who, by the way, was a
great player overseas, great Talian League, Russian League. Good player
and very good guy who's grinded through. Uh. He coached
in Moscow, he coached in Portland, he coached in Minnesota.
He still the associate head coach. So I'm I'm interested
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in these yoys. But the Emi Udoka, Yeah, he can
do it. He's been He played for Pop and Point
of Pop Skuys and that is the signature organism Asian.
If you're good with that organization, you're gonna be good
this lake. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific. Let's take you to the Valley where Jody
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Eller joins US Fox Sports in Phoenix. Stug Gotlip show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, Jody, first, like, before
we get into what actually took place at the end
of the game last night, what's your reaction been like
to how well the Suns have played without Chris Paul. Yeah,
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I mean, I think it's surprising to everybody that it's
been kind of seamless and campaign who is you know,
his story is well known, was playing in China and
the G League a year ago. And Monty Williams calls
him up out of you know, basically necessity to get
an extra body in the bubble for the Suns, and
he's turned that into one of the you know, starring
roles last night, leading all scores basically being their offensive
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flotation device for three and a half quarters, where hey,
d book your five or sixteen, just coming onto my
life wrap, I got your twenty nine points. And it's
it's really incredible what Chris Paul's impact is just a
human being and a basketball player, is beyond having him
needing him to be on the floor. It really is
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incredible that his impact and leadership this present even when
he's not even in the same state. You know. What's
what's interesting about last night is and I think I
think people have grown to really respect Monty Williams, but
like he really the whole package. I mean, really the
whole package. It's not just and obviously they're gonna have
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to figure out a way where when they do these reviews,
teams don't get time outs when they don't have time outs, right,
I mean, it's it's a it's a big problem. But
the thought that in but a minute he can draw
something up and maybe they run it previously, but draws
uping up and obviously the execution the defensive but it worked.
But that was some of these head coaches have assistance
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that draw that stuff up. And everyone knows about Monty
the person and the relationships he has. But to be
able to draw something up, get to work win a game.
I mean, this guy is going to be d D
status if they win the whole thing. He really is.
And there's a couple of things about that last play.
First of all, before the value you took over, somebody
suggested to me it should have been called the Full
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Monty because Monty Williams in the huddle before the time
now reminding DeAndre Ayden, you know, building this confidence up,
dialing the playoff. One of the weaknesses of Monty Williams
this season in the regular season, and I say weaknesses
and air quotes, has been some of this play calling
come out of time mounts in late game situations. They've
brought a lot of very heavy Devon Booker isolation basketball.
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That's even with Chris Paul on the floor, they've called
time mounts. They've gone heavy. I So they've tried to
go hero ball with Devin Booker, and he made a
few of those, but he's missed a few of those
this year as well. Not only did Monty Williams style
up a perfect play on the valley, but also the
Micale bridges three at the top of the key. He
got Macale bridges and open three from the corner moments
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before that. Necale bridge has missed that rebound led to
the review, which led to the the alley you diagramming
in the new time out. But Devin Booker, who being
willing to be a decoy at this stage of his
career where he has craved nothing more than that moment,
where he has sought nothing more than to be the
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guy in the biggest moment of the season. There he is,
with a broken nose, more than likely voluntarily willingly setting
a back screen on a seven footer where he knows
he's gonna get crushed. He does it everyone in the building.
I don't care what everyone says in hindsight, does everyone
watching everyone part of that game thought the Suns were
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setting a screen to pop up and Devin Booker for
a turnaround jump for Kevin Durant style with point nine
seconds left and Manti Williams. We see this in football
a lot where the coach picks the right time to
run the right trick play. This was like the Philly Special,
but it was the value. But it wasn't the Super Bowl,
but for Suns fans it felt like it last night. Yeah,
I will, I will tell you that the back end
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of that play is if they if they switch, then
put Booker pops out and he catches and shoots the
basketball like that's the So it technically was for Booker,
but you're you're using him using the fact that that
the Clippers guarded exactly the way he thought they would,
which is they weren't switching off of Booker and that's
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a mistake by the Clippers. And because Batum didn't leave,
it ends up being a you know, a wide open
dunk as as uh Eightan did a great job of
throwing zobos into him. So the one thing is it
was actually technically it's like it's an either or you know,
if he's opening, you throw it to the rim, if not,
you throw it to a book and you see if
he can he can make one. How how big was
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that was that to go? And can you know all
these things considered? If it's one one, there's a different
feeling today. How big was that you think? I mean,
what what would it have been like had they not
made that last shot? Yeah, it's interesting. The the other
side of this coin is, you know, it's been easy
for the Sons. I mean, it's been tense at times.
That's not like they've been running willie nilly. They've met
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a little bit of resistance, but they swept the Nuggets
once they Anthony Davis went down, they basically ran the
table on the Lakers. It's it. It doesn't feel like
it can be this easy. And I know it's not
simple or easy for the players, but I mean, if
this is one one, head back that l A you're
talking about the best of five or three of those
games are in Los Angeles, and at that point, you know,
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Chris Paul and Kauahi Leonard are basically and in arms
race to get back on the floor. We know now
that CP three is almost certainly going to be back
on the floor for Game three. But yeah, if it's
one one, this is the first It would have been
really the first time since Game three of the Lakers
series where the Sons would have felt that pressure that
typically forges that championship medal but this Sunsteam has avoided
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that kind of postseason tention. They've just been so much
better than the teams they're facing. And I think Clippers too. Oh,
I know the history, I know the rector they set
this year with coming back from O too. But you
know the Jazz had a backbone made of mashed potatoes
and the Mavericks are a one man band. This Suns
team is is considerably different than both of those teams.
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The Clippers came back on, are they We have seen
point guards come back now most of the guys guards
people that have come back and played are coming off
of injury. This is coming off of illness or testing positive.
Are we sure the Suns will be better when they
get CP three back. I think you saw yesterday exactly
how the Suns can be better with Chris Paul, and
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that is in the final minutes of halves, quarters and
even the game where he comes in and is just
a steadying presence. It is. It's not you know Devin Booker,
Matt scrambled met Devin Booker. You known fight through double team.
It feels like his present has a calming impact on
the entire team. He's steady, he's waited his entire career.
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I can't wait to see how the Chris Paul Rondo
rivalry player's up business. It's been a chippy game. I
would imagine Doug and you would know better than me.
I would think the Clippers best course of action of
Kawhi Leonards not back for Game three is to muck
it up even more. I mean to tile up that
hippy nous and the pat sev and the Rondo up
to a fifteen on a scale of one to ten
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and Chris Paul. I think one interesting thing. I'm curious
to see what Chris Paul is. Can he keep his
emotions and check This is a huge moment for him,
second Western Conference Finals, two oh against a Clippers franchise
and some Clippers players that he has a very you know,
personal professional animos animus towards. So I I think his
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presence should mostly be felt in the steadying presence. He's
not going to be the frenetic scoring energy of campaign.
He's not going to be the guy that's, you know,
the spark plug off the band for something. But I
do think when you get into those final set plays,
when the game slows down, Chris Paul's steadiness is Composer
is going to be where the Sons are gonna eat him,
whether either this series or certainly if they're fortunate enough
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to get beyond into the NBA Finals. Awesome, awesome stuff.
Hey listen, Joey, this is gonna be Oh by the way, Um, look,
I get Sons and four guy we all had fun with.
But like the Sons having the p s A S
with what people talking about, you know, let's not let's
not beat the crap out of each other in the stands.
Like it's a it's a kind of hard double standard.
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They're like, well, let's reward Sons and four guy, and
on the other hand, nobody else can kick the crap
out of anybody else in the stands. Right Well, you know,
I guess they would say Devin Booker is the one
that basically rewarded the Sun's ward. But I agree, it's like, hey,
you know what, let's just let's just enjoy the moment. Well,
there's the time for lecturing their fans. I don't think
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right now, when they're providing arguably the biggest home court
advantage in the NBA postseason, is that necessarily the right
that we can we can all except a degree that
fan fights happened in the standard godless if it's the
NBA Playoffs, in the Suns or elsewhere. So let's just
enjoy the ride. Fair, fair enough. Johnny's really appreciate you
joining us at radio. Jody is his Twitter handle. You
can check him out on Fox Sports nine. Dan, Jonny,
(29:17):
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Maxhoma joins us star in the on the PGA tour
Santa Clarita's own actually Balencia, California. Same thing. It's to
those of us who don't live in the area, Max,
it's like, where's that. That's the place that people live
and apparently near six Flags, Right, That's that's really what
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what it is? Um first concert you ever went to,
swear oh, San Diego. Oh my gosh, it was Motley
Crue open for uh Man. I'm having a serious brain
part Steven Tyler. I'm banking was it was it outdoors
indoors because the San Diego outdoors I'm thinking it wasn't.
(30:41):
It wasn't indoors is outdoors? I was, I was young,
So I'm having a hard time. Well, you have a
hard time because you had a Motley Crew concert and
I'm guessing the second hand destroyed all your brain cells.
That's that's really what it was. Yeah, maybe that's was
so messed up with me. Thank you. My brain just
turned on. There we go. Best concert you've ever been to?
(31:03):
Uh gosh. I went to this really like divy bar
to watch h J. Cole Concert one time, way back
in the day. That was a lot of fun. That
sounds pretty awesome. I played basketball. I was in that
NBA Celebrity All Star Game when I worked at ESPN
with J Cole. Yeah he was. He was a lot younger,
but you know, he was like dunking and warm ups
(31:24):
than I was like, I don't think this guy can
play basketball. It was. It was very funny. He was not.
He was not. It was like one of those like
he could dunk and he was young, and some people
thought he could play, Like I don't. Uh, you know,
you know too much, you know the real side. Well
you can just watch when somebody, I'm sure it's like
(31:44):
you with with golf, right, like it's like if you
saw me something golf swaying. Golf clubs all right, but
you're pretty good, Like yeah, actually golf was like no, no,
he hasn't he's Terrible's he's terrible. Um, what do you
think of the setup? A tory? I thought it was great.
It fell a lot like the Farmer's Insurance Honestly, Um,
the greens were much firmer and a bit flicker, but
(32:06):
Tina Green, it was really similar. I thought they did
a good job I would have liked. If I could
pick anything, I would have liked thirteen on the Thursday
Friday rounds, the only two I played to play a
little bit shorter because I think it's a bit more exciting.
But other than that, I thought they nailed it. Yeah, guys,
who was it? Was it? Bryson? Bryson blew up on
on thirteen on Sunday. I mean those guys Sunday hit
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the turn like, oh my gosh, there's like an hour
period nobody can get the ball in the hall as wild?
What is that like? What is that like to play
a course to where you're like, I, you know, and
I don't know when you're playing. You've won twice, obviously
winning it, you know, winning in l A for your
second one was amazing. But but what is that like
when everybody struggling? Are you able to to process that
(32:50):
everybody is struggling with the course or are you so
focused on yourself that you don't even know what else
is going on? Uh, it's mostly like selfishly yourself. You're
just kind of us opens are different, man. I know
I've been doing a bunch of this stuff with Gilette,
and it's just funny. Because I was thinking about, like,
you know, you're sweating from like the moment you wake
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up kind of knowing you're gonna know know when you're
gonna be kind of playing eighteen holes of hell in
a way. Uh So you you kind of get to
the course and you know it's gonna be a grind.
So I guess that helps you there. You put your
mindset in a in a good spot. But once you
start playing, it's just you, your caddy and the golf course.
You're just kind of trying to pick it apart. And
you know, if you get out of position, you gotta
(33:34):
get back in position a stap uh And and it
feels like when you do get a chance to make Bertie,
you've got to take advantage of. It's kind of mental
warfare in that in that regard, but it's hard to
it's hard to get too caught up in what everybody
else is doing, just because anybody can have a blow
up hole at any moment. So you're really never out
of it unless you kind of play your own self
out of it. You know, Wolf joined yesterday, Matthew wil
(33:54):
join us yesterday. Another so Cal guy obviously, and um,
you know he took two and he's younger than he
took two months away. Uh to kind of mentally he
told us to reset right like he was just not
feeling any sort of joy from the sport. And and
and like golf is it's very much like baseball. There's
so much failure in gulfs, so much failure in Gulf
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How how are you able to process that failure and
not let it get into you to a bad mental place?
Probably practice getting used to failing in a way, trying
to take the take more good than the back, because
in golf you're if you try to have more good
or if you try to only focus on um, you know,
the bad. There's just too much you've been built up.
(34:38):
We we don't win. Even the best golfer or the
best golfer I think of all time. Tiger is one
of his golf tournament so that means he's losing considerably
more often. So you're trying and leave the events and
and think about the things you do well. Obviously always
trying to improve. But even the best in the world
don't win every week. So it's tough, but it's just
kind of part of the job, part of the game.
(34:59):
I think at anybody who's who's played golf kind of
knows even in a one round of golf that there's
gonna be some bad. You just got to make sure
that you're really positive focusing on the good because when
you do have those wins, since they come so few
and far between, it's kind of euphoric. So it's worth,
it's worth kind of some of the losses. I would
say what you mentioned Tiger when you won the Genesis.
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He was there is right before the the accident, and
you talked about how like it's it's like a deity,
right Like You're like, it's a god standing standing there
next to you. Um, but what what what what is
that like to be like kind of the that was
the last day anybody saw him in public, and then
all of a sudden after that, you know, I don't
know if he'll have a golf career after that terrible accident.
(35:43):
Um for you emotionally, what's it been like to process? Yeah,
it was a really eerie I remember I landed and
got a text and everyone's kind of telling me what
had just happened, and I couldn't believe it. Just like
you mentioned, I saw him the day prior Um, and
you know, for for me just getting to talk to him,
I was so appreciative of He's done a zillion things
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for not only me, but for the whole golf community.
Uh and and and his you know, efforts in the game.
And uh, to think for a moment, you know, he
might not be around at all, let alone just the
golf course was scary. I'm glad he seems to be
doing so much better, but it was it was a
lot to process for everybody I know, like that that
was on everybody's mind the next week out in out
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in Florida at Concession. Uh. And it's scary, but we're
just all really root for him to just hopefully just
go back and at some point be able to move
around and run around with his kids and just have
a life because he's done enough for the game. If
he decides to never pick up a golf club again,
he's done way more than he we ever deserved. Uh.
You know, so he's been he's been just an absolute
(36:48):
blessing for the tour and uh, you know, and for
just the fans to get to watch. I feel like
as a as a kid growing up as a fan
of the game, Uh, there was nothing more fun than
watching Tiger Woods play golf. And and like I said,
I just hope that he can be healthy at some
point for his own his own family. Uh So, obviously
we're rooting for him, but it's been nice to see
him seemingly in good spirits he did. I mean, look,
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he made golf cool and that's really you know, I
grew up in Orange County and you know, Tiger was weird,
same age, and I just like I remember golf as
you know, I mean even the late Payne Stewart right,
like the the the outfits and the hats and whatever,
like it was just I wasn't a country club kid
and it wasn't anything. He had this ability to make
(37:32):
it cool right like he it was. He had swag.
Golfers didn't have swag. It's really amazing the kind of
transformation that I don't know if if a lot of
people outside of golfers in your generation understand exactly where
golf was to where it is now. Yeah, a hundred percent.
I mean he made he made walk it through my
(37:52):
quad in my high school my freshman year in a
purple golf polo because that was our team's you know shirt,
like way less miserable, so I could they can say, hey,
what do you do all you play golf? I'm like, yeah,
go watch this guy Tiger Woods play and tell me
this is not a cool sport to to to play
or to watch. So, uh, you know it fits pumping
all over the place in great shape. Um, you know
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it just yeah, it just made a cool I honestly
don't know if I would have stuck out golf as
a young kid if it wasn't for him, because I
think it would have just been uh you know, at
that time, everyone's calling an older man's game and it
has a kid to be able to keep going with that,
it would it would be kind of odd almost. So uh,
he he did not make it that. He made it
the opposite. Makes every kid want to have a put
on the last hole of a golf tournament so they
(38:34):
could do an uppercut fits pump like he always did.
Um okay, the seventy two club right, So, so are
you you mean to tell me that Gillette Delorant really
last seventy two hours seventy like seventy two hours seventy
two hours as a man. I live out in Arizona,
which is basically on the sun and I'll tell you
it works. It's hot, man, but it works, and it's
(38:56):
this amazing. Uh. They're obviously a major brand and they've
been pursuing excellence. They've been killing it. So I'm honored
to be a part of it. And I'm also just
thankful to be able to use the product so that
my wife does not leaving me every time I come
home for practice. Uh. Favorite person to play with on
the tour, like in in an event, not not to
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play on a on a Monday or a Tuesday. On
a Thursday. You see your playing with them, You're like,
this is gonna be a fun day. Uh. Rory's really
fun to play with. Um, Rory McElroy. He's just like
he brings the buds to the event. So you know,
if you're playing with him, you get to play in
front of a bunch of people and and he you know,
typically puts on a show. He's an amazing golfer, but
he's a great dude, so he's fast. It's he's just
(39:39):
easy to play with. Um And then my best friend
out here, Taylor Gucci. Uh, you know, you always want
to play with your buddies. You always want to hang
out with them, so he's an easy pick. He played
fast too. I will usually just say anybody fast. So
those two are are some of the quicker players, so
they gotta keep it moving, hit the ball, and we're
not We're not gonna. Did you ever Did you ever
(40:01):
play with Sergio and it was really bad? I did not.
I was a little young, but I remember him getting
heckled in New York. I just just hit the are
you a duff? Are you a duff? Tomorrow? So you're
with I am? Yeah. I love some off air stories
to toe gouch, I said, I said to Lois oaklhom Staate, guys,
gotta gotta stay together. Hit him long and straight. Enjoy
(40:23):
the travelers. By the way, we mentioned this to Wolf yesterday.
No call from you. Me and Dan Buyer were part
of a foursome. We won the travel we won the
the Farmer's pro am on the South course, other people
playing in the North. You didn't call me for any
local course knowledge, nothing. Now you're up a traveler. That
wasn't That wasn't in my notes. I need to know
(40:43):
that next time. Playing Cromwell a dozen times and this
is the first time we've talked so listen. You go
play blind tomorrow, you pay your caddy whatever, and then Friday,
when you need some tips, I'll send you a couple
of tips. Fair enough. Hey, that sounds good. I appreciate.
I appreciate the health. Last thing we let you go. Okay,
I want the truth. You grew up in Valencia. Valencia
(41:03):
is known for six flags. Were you scared of roller
coasters as a kid. I was scared of the loop,
like the like the revolution, big loop. You go once.
Once I did my first one, though, I was hooked
on roller coasters. I love it now. Yeah, yeah, you
have to. You can't grow up in that area not
be Max along straight tomorrow when at Cromwell and we'll
talk to you soon. Thanks. Take care. Be sure to
(41:24):
catch the live edition of the Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. What Up
with You Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope
you were having a great day. Spectacular day. M hmm.
(41:47):
We had Max home on. He was outstanding. Two days,
two golfers in a row. I guess just hell leave
me out. Let's just put golfers. They're great, right, they're good,
especially l A kids. I think, actually that's you. You
asked me, Gavin, like, why are the golfers so good?
I don't think it is. I think West Coast guys
are just you know, like Matt Barnes, Baron Davis, Sean Farnham, uh,
(42:11):
Tony Gonzalez, Like you just go through all the guys
that you know. Guy, I don't know, just I feel like,
I don't know, I feel like guys that grew up
in on the West Coast. Jason Terry. I caught up
with Isaiah Thomas at a basketball term in this weekend.
He he was in town. I don't know, I just
feel like those guys for whatever reason, it's an easier
(42:32):
conversation sometimes. The palmer's Yeah, although I'm good with New
York guys too, Like we had Jamale Thomas on my pod.
We're supposed to record part two of My Papa Jamale
Thomas upcoming. Um. You know, I think I think New
York guys are pretty good too, very well spoken and interesting,
got their own kind of perspective on on things. I
(42:54):
would love some some people's perspective on on how the
Clippers Sons game ended that look, we're all we we've
reached this point where technologically we can make sure we
get every call right. And you know, I look, I've
I've vacillated there. You're like, do we really want to
get every call right? We're like, well, okay, well some
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calls are gonna get right and some calls were not.
It's a really hard one. But because there was a
deflection with point eight seconds to go and they wanted
to make sure they got it right, both teams got
to huddle and the Phoenix Suns got a time out
and during that time out, even though it wasn't a
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time out, but during that time Monti Williams drew up
a great play and they had made a great pass
and got a dunk DeAndre and finishes and the big
dunk at the end of the game. Here's DeAndre Ayton
on the final play waiting once I said that first
screen of camp I said, I said, I tried to
set set up Zoo Black to, you know, for book
(43:57):
to have a good hang on with him. And I
believe once in my feet touched the paint where I
can go off right left one too. Not many people
are gonna be up there with me. So that's why
that's where I got confident at once I really got
that gather. Nobody bump me or you know, it was
up all right. So so here's the here's here's the
(44:17):
thought buyer. You feel free to comment on this, Gavin,
and you as well. Rams. Okay, so we're not going
to go back to not having replay. So the idea
that we're not gonna have replay, once you have it,
you have it and you gotta deal with it. The
problem is not just the volume of replays or the
length of time with the replace. It's that players get
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a chance to get a time out and to talk
and all this other stuff with it. So I think
what you have to do is you're gonna have to
have one you know, you know, there's one rap that
goes over to the monitor right, and then there's one
rep that kind of guards his back, and then there's
a security also comes out and they protect that ref.
Then there's a third ref. What I think you do
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is all ten guys gotta gotta go to one area right,
one area of the floor away from their coaches, and
that's where they gotta stand. And then we had to
put a time limit on it, you know, whether it's
a minute or thirty seconds or whatever. If you can't
see it in that in that amount of time, or
they can't see it in secaucus in that amount of time,
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and then it doesn't really matter. Why are your thoughts
neutral corners? Just go to as you said to you know,
to that, let's go to the neutral quarter, go to
the other side of the court. If you want to
put them all ten together, that's fine, if you want
to do five and five whatever, But I don't think
that they should be near their bench where the coaches are.
I'm fine with your theory. Yeah, the problem with mixing
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them is you do have the chance of guys bumping
and they don't write. But if you mix them then
they can't be calling plays and and and and all
that other stuff. Um, Gavin, do you have any do
you have any thought on this? No, you actually had
my exact thought as you were describing the issue, like,
just have players not able to be near the coaching
staff during that time out, which isn't really a time out,
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it's an official review. Have you ever seen that. Does
that happen in high school at all or in au?
Is that a rule or no, well, there's no, there's
no replay in a you are high school, so I mean,
I mean, like looking in college, they have the rule
of the replay under two minutes. But then you know,
sometimes there's a play that's bang bang and it's like
(46:26):
two minutes and fifteen seconds to go, when you're just screwed,
he's like, you know, we'd like to review it, but
there's two fifteen two fifteen to go, um and occasionally
they miss him, you know, with the guy at foot
on the line whatever. Like look, replay is a good thing,
but it's like anything. It's like with the NFL, it's
just too much. We have this in every sport where
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I think the worst part is where game winning shot
and then we're like hold on, hold on, hold on,
let's go okay, now you can celebrate like it's so inorgantic,
it's so authentic. Just is you know. The the other
option that I would use, and this is is if
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you want to have something under two minutes, that's fine,
but also you know, put a limit on it. If
you know anything under two minutes being reviewed is I
think part of the problem. Because we also had the
out of bounds that was um, I believe off of
eighton when he and zobots when when Paul George kind
of just threw the ball away on the inbounds, So
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that also, you know, took some time under two minutes.
But if you're a coach, maybe just reset like the
challenges for under two minutes and then put it on.
Because if Monty Williams didn't have a you know, a
challenge at that time and they couldn't use it, or
you know, vice versa, if it was Tylu, then it's
kind of on the coach of when they use the challenge.
And yeah, I know that there there are a lot
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of close calls under two minutes that can decide a game,
but if you at least put it in the hands
of the coaches, maybe they use their challenge and maybe
they don't, but then you don't have three other challenges
before that as all that stretched the game out. Well,
I was just about to say one thing that interested
me the most in that whole scenario that happened at
the end was obviously the time out stuff, but the
fact that I didn't know that all the players that
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were on the court had to be like like the
Clippers try to put different players on the court. They
did different yeah, and then they're like, no, that's not right,
like they have to be And I was like, I
don't know. I had no clue. So I learned a
lot of stuff about basketball that and I don't really
see a lot happened during regular games you watched because
it just kind of go to the end of the
game's over. But there was so much stuff going on
(48:34):
in that last like one minute of the one second
or whatever the game. It was unbelievable. Like I was
learning so much about Oh, you can't do that, Oh
you can't do that. It's it's pretty crazy. Yeah, there
there is no There is no basket interference on a
um on on an on an out of bounds play right,
so you can or there's basket interference, but there is
(48:56):
no cylinder. There's so if you're right above the hoop
and catching, you dunk it. And by the way, if
I were, if I were the King of all rules,
I would eliminate basket interference as a call. That's the
the the feble rule. And so people also don't know
the feb They don't know any of the rules here.
They definitely don't know the fever rules. So people think
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that goaltending is legal in FEEBA. It is not. You
cannot the ball hits the backboard, you block, it's goaltending.
If you if the ball is coming down and you
block it, it's goaltending. But when the balls on the rim,
it's live. Now it's also live on the second free though.
I love that this about FEBA basketball, which is so
say you're you're shooting the ball and you make the
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first one and the second one is rattling around the rim.
Now the offense can go up and tip it in,
but the defense tips it in. It's actually two points
for the offense. I love that. It makes no sense,
but I love it. Oh so, but you can also
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the defense. What they can do is they can go
smack it off like it's on the rim. You can
just go smack it off the rim, which is which
is awesome. The problem is sometimes you go to smack
it off the rim and you miss and you smack
it in the basket and then you cost your team,
cost your team cup points. So I I like that.
Um I bet Ben Simmons would like that. Just interfere
with it, um so? So Ron was I think what
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you're getting at is the Clippers subbed and once you
at a dead ball, if you go and you know
you have to tap the scores table. Once you get
subbed in, you cannot come out of the game unless
I believe the ball is in play right, so like,
and that includes I don't know in the NBA this
actually when I don't know about in the NBA. I
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believe you can sub if you call it time out
and then you can make an adjustment. But in college basketball,
if you're in and the clock has not run and
you just checked in, you can't come out until the
clock runs. And the Clippers, I believe, had no time
outs left. That's why they couldn't do anything because I mean,
they could have caught a time out, I assume after
he made the basket, because they put like point seven seconds,
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which was weird. It was crazy because I left at
the point eight to dunk it at the point seven
had taken in bounce. Yeah, so well, you know, I
thought the refs did a great job, to be honest
with you about I'm sorry Lakers fan. Of course the
rest of the great job, Thank you, Dan, He's a
(51:29):
bad rams is the best. I thought it was incredible.
One of the best endings I've ever seen, a heartbreaking
laws which they shouldn't have won the game anyway. That's
why if any Clipper fans people stop with it. We
shouldn't have won the game stuff? What is that? What
I mean is like they were losing the entire game.
The fact that they were even in that situation. Wait wait, wait,
(51:51):
So I don't understand how that matters. I just I
just feel like by the way, you know, they shouldn't
have won the game. They had the ball with eight
seconds ago and they had their best player at the
freeth The line is eight freeth year. I mean they
should have won the game. I'm not saying they shouldn't
have them saying that. You just said they shouldn't have
they hold on, didn't Ramos Ramos get the tape? Yeah,
(52:16):
that's what he said. They definitely didn't seem like they
were going to be in that situation. If you watch
the full game, they were completely outplayed by by the Sun.
So I just think the way it ended in is brutal.
But like, I don't know they they were gonna that
was gonna be the ultimate steel if they won that game.
And I said that earlier that I but to not
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to what Gavin saying of should have won the game
and not should have My point was that the Clippers
can't feel too bad because they weren't really in the game.
They were in the game, they just made their charge
at the end. It was the Sun's kind of kept
them at arms length throughout and then when they make
that surge at the end. You know, it wasn't like
the Clippers blew at twenty point lead like the Sixers did,
(53:00):
or the Bucks did in the previous series, or the
Clippers or the Clippers Clippers the Jazz. Yeah, I mean,
it's one of you know, one of those things where
all right, the team that probably played best throughout the
night ended up winning the game. Um, yeah, for the
longest doesn't mean that thing, right, like a guy who
or or fantasy football, Right when you vulture touchdown, you know,
(53:24):
like one guy carries the ball down the field, gets
you all the way from the twenty yard line to
the five yard line, and then some dude comes in
fresh as a daisy and scores a touchdown. You're like, hey, well,
hold on a second, that ain't right. I understand what
you guys are saying. I don't know if they shouldn't
have won the game. They had the game one, they
had the game one, and and I'm struggling with the
(53:44):
Paul George because I know he scored nine points down
the stretch, but he called for and got the basketball
and then missed both free throws. He didn't choke them,
but he also didn't make him. Now, I think that's
the craziest thing to me, is he hit that mid
ringe jumper to give them the lead with like twenty
two seconds left. You look like the hero, and then
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to go miss those two free throws. You're the ultimate goat,
not the good goat, right right. But my issue is like, hey, look, dude,
you're gonna call for the ball there, you know, if
you're gonna run a play and get that guy the ball,
you gotta make it free throws. You make one out
of two. We might not make them both, but she
gotta make one out of two, and he made neither.
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And he didn't shoot him poorly the first ones, rounding
out the last one. It was back rim, you know.
But I if you're if you're gonna go and get
the ball, I'm surprised Reggie Jackson didn't get it either
Reggie Jackson has been an amazing free throw shooter, specifically
in the playoffs. There's a dude, who Uh, there's a
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dude who your regular season wise this year he was
only at eight two, but postseason he's been He has
been just shooting the eyes out of the basketball. That
would have been the guy. But I'd put Paul Georgie
just in all those buckets beforehand. It wasn't like they
didn't have options to the free to the line right
you got Luke Kennard could have gotten the basketball. He
can really shoot, although he hasn't shot a free throw
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in the postseason because but he's a very good free
throw shooter. And Luke did scored ten in the fourth.
It's and here the Clippers are back down to oh
which is like, we got him right where we want him,
but now the Suns are gonna get back Chris Paul.
And he wasn't hurt, He was a healthy or whatever
our COVID scratch, and we think that he's finding good
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to go. So my suggestion for how to fix for
now replay is keep it at it as is, and
then you have your neutral corners. They go to where
they cannot be coached the complete opposite side, the opposite
corner of the floor, opposite their bench. That's where they
have to go. Be sure to catch the live edition
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m mm hmmmm. What a game last night? What a game?
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And there's a lot of other stuff to talk about,
baseball players stripping down, frustration, frustrated at t s A
checking them every time they try and pitch. Of course,
we get ready for U Milwaukee and Atlanta. We're gonna
pull up play with sound for you at some point.
Can we can we play first first? Fake sound? Did
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you guys hear that what Molly Carram said and what
they were talking. They were making fun of Stephen A
for having travel to Milwaukee for a series and Molly Carram,
who has friendly, nice lady, I've done it for a
long time, and and so what you have to do
is you have to we do. They gotta do this
in sports as well, Like good people can say dumb things,
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smart people can say dumb things, good players can can
can make dumb plays. Um, And she said to Milwaukee
is a terrible city and that it was an all timer.
It wasn't just that you're talking about a city that's
actually a great summer city like Milwaukee. Chicago. Chicago's dunbelievab
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studies summer city. The weather isn't actually as nice in
Chicago as it is Milwaukee. Uh, Minneapolis, northern Midwest is
big time, so is New England in the summer. Um.
You know, there's there's a reason that people still live
there when the weather is terrible in the winter, because
the summer is pretty epic, right, Like anybody who lives
in Michigan will tell you. You go to the lake
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anywhere in Michigan in the summer and it's pretty obscenely nice.
But that's not the part that's just strikes me as
stupid and arrogant to say it was also uttered and
the stops on the way there. All right, let's let
me just stay with the rest of us, know, Like, look,
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Atlanta has fun culture, terrible summer city. It is humid
and gross. Milwaukee awesome summer city. But like the worst
part about Molly Carram's I guess take in A and
and this has nothing to do with her being a woman.
Her role as hosts to not give opinion, right, So
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she's giving opinion on something and by the way, you
know Steve and A is trying to make a hot
take on picking teams or whatever, giving opinion, and then
she's like, you're The worst part is the stops on
the plane. First of all, there are non stops in Milwaukee's.
Second of all, if you know anything but Milwaukee, you
can actually fly in Chicago rather easily and you'll get
a car st start of all, like, dude, you're flying
first class. Shut up, what are you doing? God? People
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say dumb things. They also say dumb things about games.
All right. The the end of the game last night
was amazing, amazing on a multitude of levels. I think
with nine seconds to go is where you can start.
There's a lot more that goes into the game and
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where the Suns were probably the better team, and the
Clippers tried to steal one late, but they did. There
was a deflection um and the Clippers got the ball back.
The time out was called. They throw the ball into
Paul George. He promptly misses two free throws. Now Paul
George six and six, five of them from the free
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to the line, so he was five of eight. But
he did score nine points in the final two forty one,
including the go ahead buckets in the final thirty seconds.
But then, of course missed two free throws. They're up
one eight point whatever seconds to go, So of course
after miss free throws, let's start with the ms miss
free throws. Do people understand that you can miss and
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not choke? Do people understand that? Now? I understand that that. Uh,
Paul George has a little bit of history of making
some bone headed plays and struggling with the tension and pressure,
and probably has choked in the past in the playoffs.
But if you watch those two free throws, those are
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not choked free throws. The first one is around and out.
That's it's you never want to miss, but that's is
called a good miss. And the second one he hit
the heel of the rim that was just long, which
usually choking is when you leave it edge short. So
the Suns get the basketball back, they call time out.
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They throw it in to um to Devin Booker, and
it was to what tyd Loo did was really smart.
They doubled Devin Booker on the first bounce to get
the ball out of his hands. The ball ends up
going to the corner and a three pointer is taken,
and that's where things kind of get crazy. The first
rule is when of three is taken in one corner,
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secent of the time it comes off to the opposite direction.
So you have to box out, even though it's pushing
and shoving in your back and you have to know
the ball is coming there. I think it was man
Terrence Man who uh didn't have a good enough box out,
got pushed in the back a little bit and then
he got caught kind of swiping the ball out of
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bounds and it might have gone off DeAndre And we
never saw the replay anyway, So a point eight seconds
to go, instead of there being a time out because
Phine didn't have one, we have a review. The review
becomes a de facto time out. This is going to
be a topic during the show. How do we fix
the replay stuff. This is how the game ended. Grotter
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waiting with it lives that under Yes, it's good deanre
eight as far as the basket and M deanre eight
put it over the rema. M. This is DeAndre Ayton
on the final play. Once I said that first screen
of camp, I said, I said, I tried to set
set up Zoo black to, you know, for Book to
have a good angle with him. And I believe once
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my feet touched the paint where I can go off
right left one too, not many people are gonna be
up there with me. So that's why that's where I
got confident at once I really got that gay there.
Nobody bumped me or you know it was up man,
you know that was it. This is Paul George after
the game. I mean, I'm not gonna put too much
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on that. Um, Obviously it was you know, opportunity that
was missed. I'm always confident that the free throw line. UM,
I've always been very successful and clutched moments at the
free throw line. Tonight that was just unsuccessful extended the league. So, UM,
I'm not gonna put too much on that. We still
wearing position and winning ball game late in the game.
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If I know this team correctly. UM, the fight we have, um,
you know, going into Game three and the fight that
we have to believe that you know we're going to
change the series. Um, that's who we've been and that's
who we are, and so UM, I'm very confident in
our group. And UM you know, uh fact of the matter,
as they did what they were supposed to. They won
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their two games on their floor. Um, we gotta go
home and protect our house. That was That's Paul George
after the game. UM. I tend to agree with him, like,
you didn't shoot him badly, but you can't miss him both.
And you can't miss him both when you're the guy
who goes and demands the basketball, Like if you happy
to get caught with the basketball and get fouled and
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you missed two, that's one thing. But when you call
time out, you set up an in bounced play and
you're the first option because you're an eighties. He can't
he can't go over too. You can't do it. You
can't do it. So he didn't choke, but he did
miss and they're inopportune. Mrs. Who's the blame for giving
up the alley? You And my argument would be probably
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three or four people I put it on Tylu because
they should have been switching there as DeAndre and said,
nobody bumped him because there were no no switches. Look,
Etan did grab the jersey of of Zoo Botch and
kind of throw him right into the body of Devin Booker,
which is a brilliant move. I mean, I guess my
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technical definition it can be fouled. That has never been
called a foul ever in my lifetime. Um So, if
your zoo Botch, you have to not lose contact, no
matter if he grabs your jersey or not, you have
to not be body to body. He cannot cut to
the basket. DeMarcus Cousins I don't think should have been
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in that game because he didn't do much in terms
of pressuring the ball. He didn't take away the basket.
She's supposed to take away the basket. For the first
three seconds, you jump up and down as much as
you can, go crazy one to three, and then then
you can cover the corner. Because of the last second,
that's when guys like a Devin Booker would have come
up in the corner and shot the basketball. But some
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of this is also on Tyler not switching everything and
the person that was bad, and the play was amazing
and the past is even better, as was the catch,
Dan Buyer, would you think of the end of that game? Wow?
I mean it took a long long time. I I
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will say this, I thought that it was very good
at the broadcast team to clarify the goaltending rules, because
I think that's what most people thought initially, that oh,
that's goaltending. The ball was in the cylinder. So I
thought it was a great job by the the TV
crew of Jeff Van Gundy and uh and Mark Jackson
and Mike Breen to to say that, but that's the play,
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that's that's the play, that Phoenix that most people learned
that rule. I think it was like three years ago
when the Suns ran out of bounds play in a
regular season game and through it right kind of to
the rim and got a tip in dunk. I think
it was for Tyson Chandler and that and that was
the first time that most of America who watched his
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basketball time watched it, and I had learned that rule.
I thought, I thought that was the case, and that
was in fact the case, and so when I saw it,
I was like, well, that's ballgame. I didn't know what
people were even yelling about. Like, you know, I understand
you're worried about Devin Booker, you know, catching shooting point eight.
Uh that maybe that would be your worry. I just yeah,
to to allow that past to happen, it's just well,
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the week's side guys should have been in help as well,
because you can't you physically can't make that past the
week's side corner. So um, there's one other I don't know,
Patrick every like they should have bumped him. He shouldn't
have had a free run to the basket and it
should have been a switch and Bok Booker is the
one that set the pick on on Zobos too, I believe.
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So that was that was gonna be their play. So
here I'm thinking the Clippers are all worried about Booker
and Bookers. No, it's it's a look if you if
they would have switched, then Booker would have popped out
and he would have had a big guy on him, right,
which normally you don't want. But again with point eight
seconds to go, a big hand, you know, in your face.
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But that that was that was that play. The play
is you know, if they don't switch, you throw it
to the room. If they do switch, you hit Booker
or book Booker could have back cup for a little
lob himself. Yeah, zo Bach was late, um, and he
just didn't get off his feet. What happened was he
was he was They had eight and first set one
screen which kind of opened up zoo Botch a little bit,
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and then he was late and then if you watch,
he have zoobos jersey and threw him in the Booker
and that's when a switch should have occurred. Anyway, great
basket was a great game, great pass, great pass, good basketball,
close game, miss free throws, unbelievable crowd like you know
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it was. It was really excited. It's easier when you
don't have a dog in the hunt. Although I do
have the Clippers getting to the finals, but but it
is easier to just go, hey, that was really good best.
I will say this, I think that the silver lining
if you're a Clippers fan, they probably shouldn't have won
the game anyway. It wasn't like they lead throughout and
then that was the one that ended in the Sun's.
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I felt that the Sons were the better team last night. Um,
so maybe there's that silver lining, Like if like if
you thought that you had one, you know, like the
Sixers did against the Hawks or the Bucks did against
the Nets in in Game five, maybe that one stings
a little bit more. But I don't know if I
ever thought that the Clippers had that game. I thought
that they were on the verge of stealing it, and
then they just didn't steal it. You have the ball
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with eight seconds to go in a one point lead,
the game should at least go to overtime. That would
be my take, right, So did they have it one? No?
But in the NBA, the competency usually see it the
free to line. They should have made two free throws
and then figured out a way to foul to win
the game. And if they didn't foul, worst case scenario
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to give up a three point shot. Yes, John Ramos
really quickly that three pointer that was taken that when
the long off the rim. Would you consider that a
shot that you would want your player to take if
he's open or I thought that was a horrible play
with your down by a one point and but but
but is that what you want? Do you want the
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guy to take a three point shot with like eight
seconds left to go if he's wide open or would
you rather try to be more like drive to the
basket and get two points? Because down by one point? Who? What? Which?
Which it was? The last? It was the one that
they passed in to Devin Booker and he passed into
the corner and the guy took the point shot. They
were down by wife don't know who that just prior
to the ball being knocked out of bounce. Yeah, that
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was that's what's his name? The kid from Villanovo was
opening the corner. Would you want your player to do?
Like I thought that was a horrible shot when your
dom a point and like that was I couldn't believe
that was a play you drew up. Well, that wasn't
the play they drew up. What happened was the Clippers
double teamed, uh Devin Booker and he was kind of
stuck on the sideline and uh they you know, they
made the one extra pass to the old man. I
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would say, is that the play? That the shot that
you want? I mean that that is a shot that
you have to be able to shoot to play in
the NBA. That is one of the most practice shots
um in the NBA period stop um. So it's the
shot that the defense gave you and it was an
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open shot. I didn't think he should have kicked out
his leg. I thought that kind of distracted him. But
but yeah, I mean, I again, you're not gonna be able.
Miles Bridges was only one of or whatever, but he
was left open Jake Crowder made to What really should
have happened was when they doubled Jake Crowder. If Jake
Crowder cuts now of a sudden, trying to think who
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rotated there. But I still think that Bridges would have
been open because you would have cut with Jake Crowder.
But Crowder smartly made the extra pass. I mean, think
about Jake Crowder only scored two points. You know one
steel couple rebounds, didn't make a shot, didn't make a
three point shot. But that pass to Miles Bridges and
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the obviously the alley you excuse me, Micail Bridges, sorry,
wrong Bridges. Michail Bridges open in the corner. So to
answer your question, like, is that the play you got
drawn up? No, but the Clippers took him out of
the play that they got drawn up because they double
teamed the basketball. And when you get in the scrambled
situation and open corner, of three is not a bad shot.
The better that, thank you. You know, at some point
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you gotta take what the defense gives you. You know,
it's it's a lot like what that last play was
where Dan Buyers like, hey, I thought they were gonna
run something for Devin Booker. And again this is this
is one of the things in basketball that drives me crazy,
is there are some teams that the only thing they
do for shooters is run them off screens, whereas the
best thing to do for a shooter is make them
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a screener. Because now you put the defense in that conundrum,
do I stay with the shooter and leave the cutter
or do I bump the cutter and leave the shooter,
Because if they would have left DeAndre Ayton to guard
at Devin Booker would have popped out and possibly been
one up for a jump shot. That that's the design
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of the play. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio a app. So the Celtic Society made a
dooka who um, We're like same Jen, He's a Portland dude,
high school in Portland, transfer back to play for Portland's
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State UM and then total grinder like made it through
the that back when it was the D League, made
it to the league, then bounce all around overseas back here,
played in the NBA, never played a full season, but
basically made the Spurs. Had great relationships with the Marcus
all Drichman. When the Marcus Aldreds signed with san Antonio, Like,
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there was a lot a lot of people thought that
it was their relationship that he was able to convince
the Marcus Aldreds to sign with san Antonio, and then
he went from playing right to being part of the
Spurs system. He's been an assistant with the Sixers and
then of course this year with the Nets. So he's
head coach. And there's a report out that Brad Stevens
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uh talked to Jalen Brown, talked to Jayson Tatum and
they were both totally on board. It was one of
the guys that they wanted and he had worked under
Brad Stevens when Brad was coached with the USA Basketball,
So like all of that makes sense, but this is
this is the big thing. I'm just telling you. This
hiring cycle is going to be about the email eudokas,
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the guys who have played in the league that can
relate to current players in the league. That's just the
players have spoken, and this is very much a player's league. Now, Look,
there does come to a point where you're gonna have
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to at some point be the bad guy. But I
really feel like this is what the league is going
to like, it is going to and will look like
in years to come. Right, So, I mean, I'm I'm
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interested in um in in so much of what's going
to happen to some of these other jobs, right, Like
David Vanderpool, I'm I'm surprised he didn't at the Portland's job.
David Vanderpool has been an assistant in Portland for seven years.
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What's what's interesting about the Portland thing is Damian Lillard
was critical of the Minnesota Timberwolves when they didn't um
hire Vanderpool as the interim coach when Ryan Saunders was fired. Okay,
so he stands up for his guy when he's in Minnesota.
Now the job is open, and he hasn't said a
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word about David Vanderpole, who, by the way, was a
great player overseas, great Talian League, Russian League. Good player
and very good guy who's grinded through. Uh. He coached
in Moscow, he coached in Portland, he coached in Minnesota.
He still the associate head coach. So I'm I'm interested
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in these yoys. But the Emi Udoka, Yeah, he can
do it. He's been He played for Pop and Point
of Pop Skuys and that is the signature organism Asian.
If you're good with that organization, you're gonna be good
this lake. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific. Let's take you to the Valley where Jody
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Eller joins US Fox Sports in Phoenix. Stug Gotlip show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, Jody, first, like, before
we get into what actually took place at the end
of the game last night, what's your reaction been like
to how well the Suns have played without Chris Paul. Yeah,
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I mean, I think it's surprising to everybody that it's
been kind of seamless and campaign who is you know,
his story is well known, was playing in China and
the G League a year ago. And Monty Williams calls
him up out of you know, basically necessity to get
an extra body in the bubble for the Suns, and
he's turned that into one of the you know, starring
roles last night, leading all scores basically being their offensive
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flotation device for three and a half quarters, where hey,
d book your five or sixteen, just coming onto my
life wrap, I got your twenty nine points. And it's
it's really incredible what Chris Paul's impact is just a
human being and a basketball player, is beyond having him
needing him to be on the floor. It really is
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incredible that his impact and leadership this present even when
he's not even in the same state. You know. What's
what's interesting about last night is and I think I
think people have grown to really respect Monty Williams, but
like he really the whole package. I mean, really the
whole package. It's not just and obviously they're gonna have
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to figure out a way where when they do these reviews,
teams don't get time outs when they don't have time outs, right,
I mean, it's it's a it's a big problem. But
the thought that in but a minute he can draw
something up and maybe they run it previously, but draws
uping up and obviously the execution the defensive but it worked.
But that was some of these head coaches have assistance
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that draw that stuff up. And everyone knows about Monty
the person and the relationships he has. But to be
able to draw something up, get to work win a game.
I mean, this guy is going to be d D
status if they win the whole thing. He really is.
And there's a couple of things about that last play.
First of all, before the value you took over, somebody
suggested to me it should have been called the Full
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Monty because Monty Williams in the huddle before the time
now reminding DeAndre Ayden, you know, building this confidence up,
dialing the playoff. One of the weaknesses of Monty Williams
this season in the regular season, and I say weaknesses
and air quotes, has been some of this play calling
come out of time mounts in late game situations. They've
brought a lot of very heavy Devon Booker isolation basketball.
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That's even with Chris Paul on the floor, they've called
time mounts. They've gone heavy. I So they've tried to
go hero ball with Devin Booker, and he made a
few of those, but he's missed a few of those
this year as well. Not only did Monty Williams style
up a perfect play on the valley, but also the
Micale bridges three at the top of the key. He
got Macale bridges and open three from the corner moments
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before that. Necale bridge has missed that rebound led to
the review, which led to the the alley you diagramming
in the new time out. But Devin Booker, who being
willing to be a decoy at this stage of his
career where he has craved nothing more than that moment,
where he has sought nothing more than to be the
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guy in the biggest moment of the season. There he is,
with a broken nose, more than likely voluntarily willingly setting
a back screen on a seven footer where he knows
he's gonna get crushed. He does it everyone in the building.
I don't care what everyone says in hindsight, does everyone
watching everyone part of that game thought the Suns were
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setting a screen to pop up and Devin Booker for
a turnaround jump for Kevin Durant style with point nine
seconds left and Manti Williams. We see this in football
a lot where the coach picks the right time to
run the right trick play. This was like the Philly Special,
but it was the value. But it wasn't the Super Bowl,
but for Suns fans it felt like it last night. Yeah,
I will, I will tell you that the back end
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of that play is if they if they switch, then
put Booker pops out and he catches and shoots the
basketball like that's the So it technically was for Booker,
but you're you're using him using the fact that that
the Clippers guarded exactly the way he thought they would,
which is they weren't switching off of Booker and that's
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a mistake by the Clippers. And because Batum didn't leave,
it ends up being a you know, a wide open
dunk as as uh Eightan did a great job of
throwing zobos into him. So the one thing is it
was actually technically it's like it's an either or you know,
if he's opening, you throw it to the rim, if not,
you throw it to a book and you see if
he can he can make one. How how big was
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that was that to go? And can you know all
these things considered? If it's one one, there's a different
feeling today. How big was that you think? I mean,
what what would it have been like had they not
made that last shot? Yeah, it's interesting. The the other
side of this coin is, you know, it's been easy
for the Sons. I mean, it's been tense at times.
That's not like they've been running willie nilly. They've met
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a little bit of resistance, but they swept the Nuggets
once they Anthony Davis went down, they basically ran the
table on the Lakers. It's it. It doesn't feel like
it can be this easy. And I know it's not
simple or easy for the players, but I mean, if
this is one one, head back that l A you're
talking about the best of five or three of those
games are in Los Angeles, and at that point, you know,
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Chris Paul and Kauahi Leonard are basically and in arms
race to get back on the floor. We know now
that CP three is almost certainly going to be back
on the floor for Game three. But yeah, if it's
one one, this is the first It would have been
really the first time since Game three of the Lakers
series where the Sons would have felt that pressure that
typically forges that championship medal but this Sunsteam has avoided
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that kind of postseason tention. They've just been so much
better than the teams they're facing. And I think Clippers too. Oh,
I know the history, I know the rector they set
this year with coming back from O too. But you
know the Jazz had a backbone made of mashed potatoes
and the Mavericks are a one man band. This Suns
team is is considerably different than both of those teams.
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The Clippers came back on, are they We have seen
point guards come back now most of the guys guards
people that have come back and played are coming off
of injury. This is coming off of illness or testing positive.
Are we sure the Suns will be better when they
get CP three back. I think you saw yesterday exactly
how the Suns can be better with Chris Paul, and
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that is in the final minutes of halves, quarters and
even the game where he comes in and is just
a steadying presence. It is. It's not you know Devin Booker,
Matt scrambled met Devin Booker. You known fight through double team.
It feels like his present has a calming impact on
the entire team. He's steady, he's waited his entire career.
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I can't wait to see how the Chris Paul Rondo
rivalry player's up business. It's been a chippy game. I
would imagine Doug and you would know better than me.
I would think the Clippers best course of action of
Kawhi Leonards not back for Game three is to muck
it up even more. I mean to tile up that
hippy nous and the pat sev and the Rondo up
to a fifteen on a scale of one to ten
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and Chris Paul. I think one interesting thing. I'm curious
to see what Chris Paul is. Can he keep his
emotions and check This is a huge moment for him,
second Western Conference Finals, two oh against a Clippers franchise
and some Clippers players that he has a very you know,
personal professional animos animus towards. So I I think his
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presence should mostly be felt in the steadying presence. He's
not going to be the frenetic scoring energy of campaign.
He's not going to be the guy that's, you know,
the spark plug off the band for something. But I
do think when you get into those final set plays,
when the game slows down, Chris Paul's steadiness is Composer
is going to be where the Sons are gonna eat him,
whether either this series or certainly if they're fortunate enough
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to get beyond into the NBA Finals. Awesome, awesome stuff.
Hey listen, Joey, this is gonna be Oh by the way, Um, look,
I get Sons and four guy we all had fun with.
But like the Sons having the p s A S
with what people talking about, you know, let's not let's
not beat the crap out of each other in the stands.
Like it's a it's a kind of hard double standard.
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They're like, well, let's reward Sons and four guy, and
on the other hand, nobody else can kick the crap
out of anybody else in the stands. Right Well, you know,
I guess they would say Devin Booker is the one
that basically rewarded the Sun's ward. But I agree, it's like, hey,
you know what, let's just let's just enjoy the moment. Well,
there's the time for lecturing their fans. I don't think
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right now, when they're providing arguably the biggest home court
advantage in the NBA postseason, is that necessarily the right
that we can we can all except a degree that
fan fights happened in the standard godless if it's the
NBA Playoffs, in the Suns or elsewhere. So let's just
enjoy the ride. Fair, fair enough. Johnny's really appreciate you
joining us at radio. Jody is his Twitter handle. You
can check him out on Fox Sports nine. Dan, Jonny,
(29:17):
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Maxhoma joins us star in the on the PGA tour
Santa Clarita's own actually Balencia, California. Same thing. It's to
those of us who don't live in the area, Max,
it's like, where's that. That's the place that people live
and apparently near six Flags, Right, That's that's really what
(30:19):
what it is? Um first concert you ever went to,
swear oh, San Diego. Oh my gosh, it was Motley
Crue open for uh Man. I'm having a serious brain
part Steven Tyler. I'm banking was it was it outdoors
indoors because the San Diego outdoors I'm thinking it wasn't.
(30:41):
It wasn't indoors is outdoors? I was, I was young,
So I'm having a hard time. Well, you have a
hard time because you had a Motley Crew concert and
I'm guessing the second hand destroyed all your brain cells.
That's that's really what it was. Yeah, maybe that's was
so messed up with me. Thank you. My brain just
turned on. There we go. Best concert you've ever been to?
(31:03):
Uh gosh. I went to this really like divy bar
to watch h J. Cole Concert one time, way back
in the day. That was a lot of fun. That
sounds pretty awesome. I played basketball. I was in that
NBA Celebrity All Star Game when I worked at ESPN
with J Cole. Yeah he was. He was a lot younger,
but you know, he was like dunking and warm ups
(31:24):
than I was like, I don't think this guy can
play basketball. It was. It was very funny. He was not.
He was not. It was like one of those like
he could dunk and he was young, and some people
thought he could play, Like I don't. Uh, you know,
you know too much, you know the real side. Well
you can just watch when somebody, I'm sure it's like
(31:44):
you with with golf, right, like it's like if you
saw me something golf swaying. Golf clubs all right, but
you're pretty good, Like yeah, actually golf was like no, no,
he hasn't he's Terrible's he's terrible. Um, what do you
think of the setup? A tory? I thought it was great.
It fell a lot like the Farmer's Insurance Honestly, Um,
the greens were much firmer and a bit flicker, but
(32:06):
Tina Green, it was really similar. I thought they did
a good job I would have liked. If I could
pick anything, I would have liked thirteen on the Thursday
Friday rounds, the only two I played to play a
little bit shorter because I think it's a bit more exciting.
But other than that, I thought they nailed it. Yeah, guys,
who was it? Was it? Bryson? Bryson blew up on
on thirteen on Sunday. I mean those guys Sunday hit
(32:27):
the turn like, oh my gosh, there's like an hour
period nobody can get the ball in the hall as wild?
What is that like? What is that like to play
a course to where you're like, I, you know, and
I don't know when you're playing. You've won twice, obviously
winning it, you know, winning in l A for your
second one was amazing. But but what is that like
when everybody struggling? Are you able to to process that
(32:50):
everybody is struggling with the course or are you so
focused on yourself that you don't even know what else
is going on? Uh, it's mostly like selfishly yourself. You're
just kind of us opens are different, man. I know
I've been doing a bunch of this stuff with Gilette,
and it's just funny. Because I was thinking about, like,
you know, you're sweating from like the moment you wake
(33:12):
up kind of knowing you're gonna know know when you're
gonna be kind of playing eighteen holes of hell in
a way. Uh So you you kind of get to
the course and you know it's gonna be a grind.
So I guess that helps you there. You put your
mindset in a in a good spot. But once you
start playing, it's just you, your caddy and the golf course.
You're just kind of trying to pick it apart. And
you know, if you get out of position, you gotta
(33:34):
get back in position a stap uh And and it
feels like when you do get a chance to make Bertie,
you've got to take advantage of. It's kind of mental
warfare in that in that regard, but it's hard to
it's hard to get too caught up in what everybody
else is doing, just because anybody can have a blow
up hole at any moment. So you're really never out
of it unless you kind of play your own self
out of it. You know, Wolf joined yesterday, Matthew wil
(33:54):
join us yesterday. Another so Cal guy obviously, and um,
you know he took two and he's younger than he
took two months away. Uh to kind of mentally he
told us to reset right like he was just not
feeling any sort of joy from the sport. And and
and like golf is it's very much like baseball. There's
so much failure in gulfs, so much failure in Gulf
(34:16):
How how are you able to process that failure and
not let it get into you to a bad mental place?
Probably practice getting used to failing in a way, trying
to take the take more good than the back, because
in golf you're if you try to have more good
or if you try to only focus on um, you know,
the bad. There's just too much you've been built up.
(34:38):
We we don't win. Even the best golfer or the
best golfer I think of all time. Tiger is one
of his golf tournament so that means he's losing considerably
more often. So you're trying and leave the events and
and think about the things you do well. Obviously always
trying to improve. But even the best in the world
don't win every week. So it's tough, but it's just
kind of part of the job, part of the game.
(34:59):
I think at anybody who's who's played golf kind of
knows even in a one round of golf that there's
gonna be some bad. You just got to make sure
that you're really positive focusing on the good because when
you do have those wins, since they come so few
and far between, it's kind of euphoric. So it's worth,
it's worth kind of some of the losses. I would
say what you mentioned Tiger when you won the Genesis.
(35:20):
He was there is right before the the accident, and
you talked about how like it's it's like a deity,
right Like You're like, it's a god standing standing there
next to you. Um, but what what what what is
that like to be like kind of the that was
the last day anybody saw him in public, and then
all of a sudden after that, you know, I don't
know if he'll have a golf career after that terrible accident.
(35:43):
Um for you emotionally, what's it been like to process? Yeah,
it was a really eerie I remember I landed and
got a text and everyone's kind of telling me what
had just happened, and I couldn't believe it. Just like
you mentioned, I saw him the day prior Um, and
you know, for for me just getting to talk to him,
I was so appreciative of He's done a zillion things
(36:04):
for not only me, but for the whole golf community.
Uh and and and his you know, efforts in the game.
And uh, to think for a moment, you know, he
might not be around at all, let alone just the
golf course was scary. I'm glad he seems to be
doing so much better, but it was it was a
lot to process for everybody I know, like that that
was on everybody's mind the next week out in out
(36:25):
in Florida at Concession. Uh. And it's scary, but we're
just all really root for him to just hopefully just
go back and at some point be able to move
around and run around with his kids and just have
a life because he's done enough for the game. If
he decides to never pick up a golf club again,
he's done way more than he we ever deserved. Uh.
You know, so he's been he's been just an absolute
(36:48):
blessing for the tour and uh, you know, and for
just the fans to get to watch. I feel like
as a as a kid growing up as a fan
of the game, Uh, there was nothing more fun than
watching Tiger Woods play golf. And and like I said,
I just hope that he can be healthy at some
point for his own his own family. Uh So, obviously
we're rooting for him, but it's been nice to see
him seemingly in good spirits he did. I mean, look,
(37:10):
he made golf cool and that's really you know, I
grew up in Orange County and you know, Tiger was weird,
same age, and I just like I remember golf as
you know, I mean even the late Payne Stewart right,
like the the the outfits and the hats and whatever,
like it was just I wasn't a country club kid
and it wasn't anything. He had this ability to make
(37:32):
it cool right like he it was. He had swag.
Golfers didn't have swag. It's really amazing the kind of
transformation that I don't know if if a lot of
people outside of golfers in your generation understand exactly where
golf was to where it is now. Yeah, a hundred percent.
I mean he made he made walk it through my
(37:52):
quad in my high school my freshman year in a
purple golf polo because that was our team's you know shirt,
like way less miserable, so I could they can say, hey,
what do you do all you play golf? I'm like, yeah,
go watch this guy Tiger Woods play and tell me
this is not a cool sport to to to play
or to watch. So, uh, you know it fits pumping
all over the place in great shape. Um, you know
(38:13):
it just yeah, it just made a cool I honestly
don't know if I would have stuck out golf as
a young kid if it wasn't for him, because I
think it would have just been uh you know, at
that time, everyone's calling an older man's game and it
has a kid to be able to keep going with that,
it would it would be kind of odd almost. So uh,
he he did not make it that. He made it
the opposite. Makes every kid want to have a put
on the last hole of a golf tournament so they
(38:34):
could do an uppercut fits pump like he always did.
Um okay, the seventy two club right, So, so are
you you mean to tell me that Gillette Delorant really
last seventy two hours seventy like seventy two hours seventy
two hours as a man. I live out in Arizona,
which is basically on the sun and I'll tell you
it works. It's hot, man, but it works, and it's
(38:56):
this amazing. Uh. They're obviously a major brand and they've
been pursuing excellence. They've been killing it. So I'm honored
to be a part of it. And I'm also just
thankful to be able to use the product so that
my wife does not leaving me every time I come
home for practice. Uh. Favorite person to play with on
the tour, like in in an event, not not to
(39:17):
play on a on a Monday or a Tuesday. On
a Thursday. You see your playing with them, You're like,
this is gonna be a fun day. Uh. Rory's really
fun to play with. Um, Rory McElroy. He's just like
he brings the buds to the event. So you know,
if you're playing with him, you get to play in
front of a bunch of people and and he you know,
typically puts on a show. He's an amazing golfer, but
he's a great dude, so he's fast. It's he's just
(39:39):
easy to play with. Um And then my best friend
out here, Taylor Gucci. Uh, you know, you always want
to play with your buddies. You always want to hang
out with them, so he's an easy pick. He played
fast too. I will usually just say anybody fast. So
those two are are some of the quicker players, so
they gotta keep it moving, hit the ball, and we're
not We're not gonna. Did you ever Did you ever
(40:01):
play with Sergio and it was really bad? I did not.
I was a little young, but I remember him getting
heckled in New York. I just just hit the are
you a duff? Are you a duff? Tomorrow? So you're
with I am? Yeah. I love some off air stories
to toe gouch, I said, I said to Lois oaklhom Staate, guys,
gotta gotta stay together. Hit him long and straight. Enjoy
(40:23):
the travelers. By the way, we mentioned this to Wolf yesterday.
No call from you. Me and Dan Buyer were part
of a foursome. We won the travel we won the
the Farmer's pro am on the South course, other people
playing in the North. You didn't call me for any
local course knowledge, nothing. Now you're up a traveler. That
wasn't That wasn't in my notes. I need to know
(40:43):
that next time. Playing Cromwell a dozen times and this
is the first time we've talked so listen. You go
play blind tomorrow, you pay your caddy whatever, and then Friday,
when you need some tips, I'll send you a couple
of tips. Fair enough. Hey, that sounds good. I appreciate.
I appreciate the health. Last thing we let you go. Okay,
I want the truth. You grew up in Valencia. Valencia
(41:03):
is known for six flags. Were you scared of roller
coasters as a kid. I was scared of the loop,
like the like the revolution, big loop. You go once.
Once I did my first one, though, I was hooked
on roller coasters. I love it now. Yeah, yeah, you
have to. You can't grow up in that area not
be Max along straight tomorrow when at Cromwell and we'll
talk to you soon. Thanks. Take care. Be sure to
(41:24):
catch the live edition of the Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. What Up
with You Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope
you were having a great day. Spectacular day. M hmm.
(41:47):
We had Max home on. He was outstanding. Two days,
two golfers in a row. I guess just hell leave
me out. Let's just put golfers. They're great, right, they're good,
especially l A kids. I think, actually that's you. You
asked me, Gavin, like, why are the golfers so good?
I don't think it is. I think West Coast guys
are just you know, like Matt Barnes, Baron Davis, Sean Farnham, uh,
(42:11):
Tony Gonzalez, Like you just go through all the guys
that you know. Guy, I don't know, just I feel like,
I don't know, I feel like guys that grew up
in on the West Coast. Jason Terry. I caught up
with Isaiah Thomas at a basketball term in this weekend.
He he was in town. I don't know, I just
feel like those guys for whatever reason, it's an easier
(42:32):
conversation sometimes. The palmer's Yeah, although I'm good with New
York guys too, Like we had Jamale Thomas on my pod.
We're supposed to record part two of My Papa Jamale
Thomas upcoming. Um. You know, I think I think New
York guys are pretty good too, very well spoken and interesting,
got their own kind of perspective on on things. I
(42:54):
would love some some people's perspective on on how the
Clippers Sons game ended that look, we're all we we've
reached this point where technologically we can make sure we
get every call right. And you know, I look, I've
I've vacillated there. You're like, do we really want to
get every call right? We're like, well, okay, well some
(43:15):
calls are gonna get right and some calls were not.
It's a really hard one. But because there was a
deflection with point eight seconds to go and they wanted
to make sure they got it right, both teams got
to huddle and the Phoenix Suns got a time out
and during that time out, even though it wasn't a
(43:36):
time out, but during that time Monti Williams drew up
a great play and they had made a great pass
and got a dunk DeAndre and finishes and the big
dunk at the end of the game. Here's DeAndre Ayton
on the final play waiting once I said that first
screen of camp I said, I said, I tried to
set set up Zoo Black to, you know, for book
(43:57):
to have a good hang on with him. And I
believe once in my feet touched the paint where I
can go off right left one too. Not many people
are gonna be up there with me. So that's why
that's where I got confident at once I really got
that gather. Nobody bump me or you know, it was
up all right. So so here's the here's here's the
(44:17):
thought buyer. You feel free to comment on this, Gavin,
and you as well. Rams. Okay, so we're not going
to go back to not having replay. So the idea
that we're not gonna have replay, once you have it,
you have it and you gotta deal with it. The
problem is not just the volume of replays or the
length of time with the replace. It's that players get
(44:39):
a chance to get a time out and to talk
and all this other stuff with it. So I think
what you have to do is you're gonna have to
have one you know, you know, there's one rap that
goes over to the monitor right, and then there's one
rep that kind of guards his back, and then there's
a security also comes out and they protect that ref.
Then there's a third ref. What I think you do
(45:01):
is all ten guys gotta gotta go to one area right,
one area of the floor away from their coaches, and
that's where they gotta stand. And then we had to
put a time limit on it, you know, whether it's
a minute or thirty seconds or whatever. If you can't
see it in that in that amount of time, or
they can't see it in secaucus in that amount of time,
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and then it doesn't really matter. Why are your thoughts
neutral corners? Just go to as you said to you know,
to that, let's go to the neutral quarter, go to
the other side of the court. If you want to
put them all ten together, that's fine, if you want
to do five and five whatever, But I don't think
that they should be near their bench where the coaches are.
I'm fine with your theory. Yeah, the problem with mixing
(45:44):
them is you do have the chance of guys bumping
and they don't write. But if you mix them then
they can't be calling plays and and and and all
that other stuff. Um, Gavin, do you have any do
you have any thought on this? No, you actually had
my exact thought as you were describing the issue, like,
just have players not able to be near the coaching
staff during that time out, which isn't really a time out,
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it's an official review. Have you ever seen that. Does
that happen in high school at all or in au?
Is that a rule or no, well, there's no, there's
no replay in a you are high school, so I mean,
I mean, like looking in college, they have the rule
of the replay under two minutes. But then you know,
sometimes there's a play that's bang bang and it's like
(46:26):
two minutes and fifteen seconds to go, when you're just screwed,
he's like, you know, we'd like to review it, but
there's two fifteen two fifteen to go, um and occasionally
they miss him, you know, with the guy at foot
on the line whatever. Like look, replay is a good thing,
but it's like anything. It's like with the NFL, it's
just too much. We have this in every sport where
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I think the worst part is where game winning shot
and then we're like hold on, hold on, hold on,
let's go okay, now you can celebrate like it's so inorgantic,
it's so authentic. Just is you know. The the other
option that I would use, and this is is if
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you want to have something under two minutes, that's fine,
but also you know, put a limit on it. If
you know anything under two minutes being reviewed is I
think part of the problem. Because we also had the
out of bounds that was um, I believe off of
eighton when he and zobots when when Paul George kind
of just threw the ball away on the inbounds, So
(47:28):
that also, you know, took some time under two minutes.
But if you're a coach, maybe just reset like the
challenges for under two minutes and then put it on.
Because if Monty Williams didn't have a you know, a
challenge at that time and they couldn't use it, or
you know, vice versa, if it was Tylu, then it's
kind of on the coach of when they use the challenge.
And yeah, I know that there there are a lot
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of close calls under two minutes that can decide a game,
but if you at least put it in the hands
of the coaches, maybe they use their challenge and maybe
they don't, but then you don't have three other challenges
before that as all that stretched the game out. Well,
I was just about to say one thing that interested
me the most in that whole scenario that happened at
the end was obviously the time out stuff, but the
fact that I didn't know that all the players that
(48:13):
were on the court had to be like like the
Clippers try to put different players on the court. They
did different yeah, and then they're like, no, that's not right,
like they have to be And I was like, I
don't know. I had no clue. So I learned a
lot of stuff about basketball that and I don't really
see a lot happened during regular games you watched because
it just kind of go to the end of the
game's over. But there was so much stuff going on
(48:34):
in that last like one minute of the one second
or whatever the game. It was unbelievable. Like I was
learning so much about Oh, you can't do that, Oh
you can't do that. It's it's pretty crazy. Yeah, there
there is no There is no basket interference on a
um on on an on an out of bounds play right,
so you can or there's basket interference, but there is
(48:56):
no cylinder. There's so if you're right above the hoop
and catching, you dunk it. And by the way, if
I were, if I were the King of all rules,
I would eliminate basket interference as a call. That's the
the the feble rule. And so people also don't know
the feb They don't know any of the rules here.
They definitely don't know the fever rules. So people think
(49:17):
that goaltending is legal in FEEBA. It is not. You
cannot the ball hits the backboard, you block, it's goaltending.
If you if the ball is coming down and you
block it, it's goaltending. But when the balls on the rim,
it's live. Now it's also live on the second free though.
I love that this about FEBA basketball, which is so
say you're you're shooting the ball and you make the
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first one and the second one is rattling around the rim.
Now the offense can go up and tip it in,
but the defense tips it in. It's actually two points
for the offense. I love that. It makes no sense,
but I love it. Oh so, but you can also
(50:00):
the defense. What they can do is they can go
smack it off like it's on the rim. You can
just go smack it off the rim, which is which
is awesome. The problem is sometimes you go to smack
it off the rim and you miss and you smack
it in the basket and then you cost your team,
cost your team cup points. So I I like that.
Um I bet Ben Simmons would like that. Just interfere
with it, um so? So Ron was I think what
(50:23):
you're getting at is the Clippers subbed and once you
at a dead ball, if you go and you know
you have to tap the scores table. Once you get
subbed in, you cannot come out of the game unless
I believe the ball is in play right, so like,
and that includes I don't know in the NBA this
actually when I don't know about in the NBA. I
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believe you can sub if you call it time out
and then you can make an adjustment. But in college basketball,
if you're in and the clock has not run and
you just checked in, you can't come out until the
clock runs. And the Clippers, I believe, had no time
outs left. That's why they couldn't do anything because I mean,
they could have caught a time out, I assume after
he made the basket, because they put like point seven seconds,
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which was weird. It was crazy because I left at
the point eight to dunk it at the point seven
had taken in bounce. Yeah, so well, you know, I
thought the refs did a great job, to be honest
with you about I'm sorry Lakers fan. Of course the
rest of the great job, Thank you, Dan, He's a
(51:29):
bad rams is the best. I thought it was incredible.
One of the best endings I've ever seen, a heartbreaking
laws which they shouldn't have won the game anyway. That's
why if any Clipper fans people stop with it. We
shouldn't have won the game stuff? What is that? What
I mean is like they were losing the entire game.
The fact that they were even in that situation. Wait wait, wait,
(51:51):
So I don't understand how that matters. I just I
just feel like by the way, you know, they shouldn't
have won the game. They had the ball with eight
seconds ago and they had their best player at the
freeth The line is eight freeth year. I mean they
should have won the game. I'm not saying they shouldn't
have them saying that. You just said they shouldn't have
they hold on, didn't Ramos Ramos get the tape? Yeah,
(52:16):
that's what he said. They definitely didn't seem like they
were going to be in that situation. If you watch
the full game, they were completely outplayed by by the Sun.
So I just think the way it ended in is brutal.
But like, I don't know they they were gonna that
was gonna be the ultimate steel if they won that game.
And I said that earlier that I but to not
(52:37):
to what Gavin saying of should have won the game
and not should have My point was that the Clippers
can't feel too bad because they weren't really in the game.
They were in the game, they just made their charge
at the end. It was the Sun's kind of kept
them at arms length throughout and then when they make
that surge at the end. You know, it wasn't like
the Clippers blew at twenty point lead like the Sixers did,
(53:00):
or the Bucks did in the previous series, or the
Clippers or the Clippers Clippers the Jazz. Yeah, I mean,
it's one of you know, one of those things where
all right, the team that probably played best throughout the
night ended up winning the game. Um, yeah, for the
longest doesn't mean that thing, right, like a guy who
or or fantasy football, Right when you vulture touchdown, you know,
(53:24):
like one guy carries the ball down the field, gets
you all the way from the twenty yard line to
the five yard line, and then some dude comes in
fresh as a daisy and scores a touchdown. You're like, hey, well,
hold on a second, that ain't right. I understand what
you guys are saying. I don't know if they shouldn't
have won the game. They had the game one, they
had the game one, and and I'm struggling with the
(53:44):
Paul George because I know he scored nine points down
the stretch, but he called for and got the basketball
and then missed both free throws. He didn't choke them,
but he also didn't make him. Now, I think that's
the craziest thing to me, is he hit that mid
ringe jumper to give them the lead with like twenty
two seconds left. You look like the hero, and then
(54:05):
to go miss those two free throws. You're the ultimate goat,
not the good goat, right right. But my issue is like, hey, look, dude,
you're gonna call for the ball there, you know, if
you're gonna run a play and get that guy the ball,
you gotta make it free throws. You make one out
of two. We might not make them both, but she
gotta make one out of two, and he made neither.
(54:26):
And he didn't shoot him poorly the first ones, rounding
out the last one. It was back rim, you know.
But I if you're if you're gonna go and get
the ball, I'm surprised Reggie Jackson didn't get it either
Reggie Jackson has been an amazing free throw shooter, specifically
in the playoffs. There's a dude, who Uh, there's a
(54:48):
dude who your regular season wise this year he was
only at eight two, but postseason he's been He has
been just shooting the eyes out of the basketball. That
would have been the guy. But I'd put Paul Georgie
just in all those buckets beforehand. It wasn't like they
didn't have options to the free to the line right
you got Luke Kennard could have gotten the basketball. He
can really shoot, although he hasn't shot a free throw
(55:09):
in the postseason because but he's a very good free
throw shooter. And Luke did scored ten in the fourth.
It's and here the Clippers are back down to oh
which is like, we got him right where we want him,
but now the Suns are gonna get back Chris Paul.
And he wasn't hurt, He was a healthy or whatever
our COVID scratch, and we think that he's finding good
(55:31):
to go. So my suggestion for how to fix for
now replay is keep it at it as is, and
then you have your neutral corners. They go to where
they cannot be coached the complete opposite side, the opposite
corner of the floor, opposite their bench. That's where they
have to go. Be sure to catch the live edition
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