July 13, 2021 • 40 mins
Doug Gottlieb points out of the flaws in Naomi Osaka’s logic, as the tennis pro continues her mission to alter press conferences in order to assist her mental health. He’s joined by 13-year NBA veteran Antonio Daniels to discuss Team USA turning into a national embarrassment and how they can turn it around before the Olympics. Plus, he shares his top three wide receivers in the NFL!
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slash Yes, two thousand neils report limitations apply. Um, what
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is Kobe Bryant most known for? Most known for? I mean,
obviously Kobe is known as a was known as a
great bassketball player. Um, but I would say that what's
happened since he passed and maybe even before he passed,
as he became kind of this um leadership savant, you know,
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and he he had there's quotes out there there, they
are great ones. Right, everything negative pressure, challenges, it's all
an opportunity for me to rise. Yeah, that's a that's
a pretty good one. I mean, there's a there's you.
You go in Google like the greatest quotes in Kobe
Bryant history. Right to overcome challenge the moment I accept
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the most challenging times will always be behind me. And
this is this is a moment I accept that most
challenging times will always be behind me and in front
of me. Mhm. The most important thing is to try
to inspire things to be great whatever they want to do.
That's that's really good. Um. Once you know what failure
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feels like, determination chases success. I like that one night.
That one. That's a that's a really good one, really
really good one. Um. I think that the end all
be all. Like I can't relate to lazy people. We
don't speak the same language. I don't understand you. I
don't want to understand you. Hey, here's one pain doesn't
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tell you when you ought to stop. Paint is a
little voice in your head that tries to hold you
back because it knows if you continue, you will change.
It's pretty good, right. And and here's here's the last thing.
If you want to be great at something, there's a
choice you have to make. What I mean by this
is there are inherent sacrifice to come along with that,
family time, hanging out with friends, being being a great friend,
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being a great son, nephew, whatever the case may be.
We all have self doubt. You don't deny it, but
you also don't capitulate to it. You embrace it. Okay.
So that's the late great Kobe Bryant. That was his
philosophy in how to push through really really tough times.
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Naomi Osaka is a very young, very talented tennis savant.
And if you wonder what was missing at Wimbledon, right,
it's like we're still care about Serena. Like Serena has
been doing it for so long it's impossible things she
can continue at that and she was done early and
there was really no kind of reason to watch. That's
because Naomi Osaka is taking time off her mental health.
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She said this in Time magazine. In my opinion, the
press conference format itself is out of date and it's
in great need of a refresh. I believe we can
make it better, more interesting, more enjoyable for each side,
less subject versus object, more peer to peer. Perhaps we
should give athletes the right to take a mental break
from media scrutiny on the rare occasion without being subject
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to strict sanctions. I have numerous suggestions to offer the
tennis hierarchy, but my number one suggestion would be allowed
a small number of sick days per year where you're
excusing your press commitments without having to disclose your personal reasons.
I believe this would bring sports in line with the
rest of society. Okay, reasonable thought, Gavin, What do you
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think when you hear I think it's a selfish move
that she wants to change an entire system that's in
place because she's uncomfortable. I don't think that works in
any line of work. Um, I don't think you can.
I think you need to adapt before you ask others
to ramos Um. Basically, she wants sick days, and I
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was just saying she she's saying she wants sick days
from the media. She wants she wants to like not
a Mulligan, but she wants a you know, I'm not
feeling it. I don't want to answer questions about today's match.
I want to opt I want to opt out clause.
But just from the press conferences, right, That's that's her
first thing. She clearly doesn't like the press conferences. Yeah, um,
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I think it's part of part of what you have
to do when you're in that position baseball players, tennis players, whatever, golf.
So yeah, I do think you need to. I don't
agree with that, it's my point. Yet, she should be
able to get in front of the media and speak
to them, whether it's two minutes or ten minutes. She
needs to be able to be accessible to them after
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a match or before a match, and then after that
she can leave fire you your thoughts, you know. I
I just look at Tiger Woods, who, no matter what happened,
and sure Tiger had a lot of great success, he
was the one that every TV network wanted to talk
to after and I would have to say, nine percent
of the times he was doing those interviews, he rarely declined.
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Uh for a sure a variety of reasons. But you
know that's that's the standard that that I have. I
just don't know. I don't know how you can say
I'm ready to talk about, you know, only the good
and not the bad, because I think that athletes would
would take advantage of that definitely, and and by the way,
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she can take advantage of it. Um, I must have missed.
I must have missed a contentious press conference where people
were putting her on the hot set, Like I don't.
This feels to me again, like like what what I
consider scapegoating the media? Like the what what is the
We do understand that the media is not there to
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break down her personal life, to tear apart her tennis game.
It's really there just to tell the story for people
who couldn't see it, or give context to people who
did see it on something they didn't know. And oh yeah,
by the way, to promote promote the sport, Like there's
an absolute value to having the media have a Q
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and A with a star player before or after the match.
I don't think you need to do one before or
the running press commerce. I don't think that does And
if she said correct, I know. Yeah. By the way,
in terms of controlling your own content, that's what social
media is for. You can put out there whatever you'd like.
But yeah, we asked you to, Hey, you know, give
us ten fifteen minutes here we can insert some questions
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like is that and and the reason I read that
Kobe Bryant quotes is like I always thought this was
what made the great athletes great is that they can um,
what's it called when you compartmentalize, Yeah, that's it. When
you compart you can compartmentalize the media, thing, family stuff,
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like it's all in different kind of buckets and when
and and meanwhile, maintain your focus when you step on
the floor of the pitch or the field or or
the court whatever. Right. I always thought that's what made
the great ones great, is that they can do all
these things like that's part of the job. That's part
of the job. That's I think that the bigger part
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of it. Right, everyone has part of their like this
is the And again I don't know enough about about
what's really behind the Naomi Osaka stuff, but I can
tell you that that generally, generally tennis obviously a country
club sport. People coming for the most part the Williams
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Sisters as an exception from affluence, right, and I fully
understand it is a mentally withering sport. I played tennis
competitively for two years. I still obviously premium meansury like
to play tennis. It is a mentally withering sport. You
are alone, alone on an island, and for Naomi Osaka,
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you're paying playing in these massive tennis venues for millions
of dollars and you're on an island and the only
thing you can blame is the chair umpire, okay, or
your racket. That's really it, the chair umpire or the racket.
So it's a mentally taxing sport. I but there's also
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this kind of country club mentality to it, like, yeah,
I don't want to I don't want to relive any
of my bad moments, Like what what do you? What
do you even? What are you even talking about? Everyone
in their job? Okay, so let's let's Gavin. Yes, Kevin,
your job, uh is to produce the show, but it's
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also you helped produce my podcast, which could mean for
helping record a podcast at odd times and throughout the day.
Correct is that the hardest or worst part of your job?
It's not the worst part, but I think the thing
is like if I just said I'm not going to
do that anymore, or if we do the whole Life
show and I refuse to put up the podcast, that's like,
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those are key elements of my job. And when you're
an athlete, you do need you have that responsibility to
talk to the media. What's the worst part of your
job robs jeez, Um, I don't know. I don't like
being told like what to play like sometimes like if
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I'm running the board, like oh do this, do that?
Like my job is all about like how I feel
and what I feel needs to be done at a
certain time. And so when people say, oh, do this
drop or do that, I don't like that. I don't
like people telling me what my job should be. You've
been doing it long enough, you've been doing it well enough,
Like I got it. I don't need I don't need
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to be microman That's correct. Okay, respect that, totally, respect that.
All right? What about you there, Dan Buy Our worst
part about your job just I interrupt you when you're
trying to actually do your job to kill some time
on my shows. It is it's more just so the
tedious nature of typing, of of doing all the things
that I need to to type typing is I mean,
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the only thing worse is if you had to handwrite it,
which is just that's the tediousness of it. If that's
even a word, that is a word, judges, we come
up a teds you could go tedious nature of the job. Um,
what's the worst part my job is pretty sick. Uh yeah,
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I mean like this job honestly, like it's the best
part about Fox Sports radios. We don't have any of those,
dumb I don't have meetings, you know, so we used
to have these moons at ESPN. We used had these meetings.
You're like, why are we doing this? What is it? Like, Well,
it's really important we all get on the same page.
Like I send it in an email, you know, well,
we don't know if you'll read it an email Like okay, well,
then write it so well that I'm gonna read it.
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Worst part about the job, um, I would say, Look,
the hardest part about doing the job is there are
some days in which you're like, I don't feel like
talking to everybody about stuff. You know where I I
watched and I got I got nothing. I got nothing.
And that's when I need Gavin's help and Buyer's help,
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and Ramas's help, and I'll call some friends as well,
and and and Lee Mayak who books the show, get
her help to get some more guests on. But look,
you you do it two thirty some odd days a year,
and they're gonna be days whence you're just like, you know,
but you have to, so so I would say go ahead,
by well I was I was just gonna say, like,
isn't you know, like, isn't that Like. I think there's
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a huge catch twenty two when it comes with uh,
what Naomi Osaka is talking about? And I think it
goes a lot of different ways. Some days you have it,
some days you don't. You get criticized if you don't
say anything, and then when you do say something, you
still get criticized for that. But I also think that
there's a there's a you know, a catch twenty two
with on the you know, you're just talking about your job. Yeah,
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there's great days where there's there's not in three hours
is not enough to talk about what is going on?
And then there's the other days where you you know,
forty five minutes and you'd be good, you could wrap
it up in a podcast for everything that's on your mind,
and so it kind of ebbs and flows. But I
also think then in the role of the reporter that
and no one has any sympathy for the media or
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the role of the reporter. So I understand what I'm
saying is probably not going to be popular. But if
I were to go into a press conference to say,
Naomi Osaka, can you just talk about what your hamstring
injury you know, has done, or can you talk about
how your backhand has been going? And then everybody says,
how why don't you ask your a question. It's a
question that I would say, Naomi, your backhand has not
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been successful lately in the last six tournaments. Now you're
being criticized because you're pointing out a negative thing like
there is it is a no win situation in a
lot of this in how you have to deal. And again,
the press doesn't get any any flak for this, But
Naomi Osaka put in a thing like I love the press,
I just don't love the press conferences. Well, I don't
know if you can have it both ways. I don't
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know if you could do an interview with Time listen
that I would. I would disagree with you the question
part because you made a statement before the question, right.
That's where people can always get themselves in trouble. Just hey,
no mean sure, but how's your back head? But but
but that's again, that's we're we're getting in the weeds
over things. Your bigger point was a totally accurate point.
They wanted both ways. We we want we want great relationships,
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perfect stories. I just I don't want to after a match.
I don't want to. I don't want to give you anything.
I don't I don't have time or the mental energy.
I don't want to. I already have it going on
in my head. I don't want to talk to you.
Right Like, that worked that way. That that's me saying, like,
I mean, look, would everybody like the Howard certain thing, Like, hey,
what if I worked three days a week and I
had a huge staff, and I like three days a
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week to do a to do a show. I mean,
how good would you be? And like, you have an
unbelievable guests you can keep for you have no commercials
if you don't want to, right Like, But that's a
because he's the absolute king of radio, right of audio,
that he's the only guy that could get away with that.
The rest of us, like, we gotta punch the clock
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five days a week, and there's gonna be some days
you don't have to. That's that's the deal, dude, And
it's it's to me. This is no different Naomi Osaka
complaining about the media and the press conferences and no
different than a janitor complaining about cleaning up crap in
in a bathroom, Like you didn't know it was janitorial service, right,
Like you're gonna have to clean up. It's part of
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the PRIs, it's part of the job requirements. It's you know,
I'll tell you the worst part about my job is
like I'm paid to give my opinion. Sometimes I give
my opinion. You don't like it, or a boss doesn't
like it. Not necessarily radio boss, but another boss might
not like it. They're like, well I don't like your opinion.
We're like, okay, well what would you pay me for?
You pay me to give an opinion? Right, But again,
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that's that's a job hazard. Is the only job hazard
she has. That's it. So I'm sorry, I don't think
this is about mental health. I don't think you get
a mental health day. And oh yeah, by the way, sorry,
we do judge athletes differently than we do anybody else.
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You can. It's not just your physical ability to do
things that we can't, it's your mental ability to do
things we can't. Right, there's lots of dudes who can
go out on a course and there better than scratch golfers, right,
but put him in a tournament, put some money on
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the line, and it's like that Tiger Woods golf commercial, Yeah,
where you're like just shaking. I mean, there's I had
a teammate named Zach Kazell at Oklahoma State. He's a
walk on, he played baseball. He's from Ripley, Oklahoma. And
Zach was like preseason practice our senior year. He was awesome.
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And I told the coaches like, and I think Zach
needs be in the rotation. They're like really, like yeah, man,
he can really plays, can guard, he can rebound. He's
six five, he's bouncy. And they're like, yeah, different when
the lights around the popcorns popping and like that. That's
really the difference to some guys. It's not necessarily ability. Now.
I'm sure had he gotten a bunch of minutes, he
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would have settled down. But he couldn't settle down. So
I I it's it's not that I'm not sympathetic and
I and I said this last week with the Aaron Rodgers,
like we conflate the mental I need a mental health break, Like, look,
do I want you to be healthy mentally? Absolutely. I'm
not some Satanist who's like I want you all to
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be completely screwed up in the head. No, right, But
part of sports is pushing through. That's mental toughness, is
pushing through when you're not feeling like doing it and
getting yourself to the gym to the court, you're going
and doing it. And you gotta have that same mentality
with the media. How do I maintain my poise, maintain
my composure, get through these next ten or fifteen minutes,
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walk out with a smile, and then go about my day,
Like we're not asking that much of you. And the
mental health awareness that we're preaching, Like, but we're talking
about like suicides and major major depression and people not
being able to get out of their bed, Like these
things are real problems and we need to understand that
with between COVID and social media, Like social media is
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hard on kids. For example, right, you your kid, you're
begging for Instagram. You put them on Instagram, and then
they're sitting at home on a Friday night. They look
on Instagram and their friends are all hanging out together
and they're not invited. Like that's hard on a kid.
That's a mental health issue that you have to help
them through. But Are we just not gonna have friends
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you're not allowed to have not allowed to have sleepovers
unless everybody's included. Or do you teach your kids like, hey,
this is part of You're not gonna You can't foam
all over everything. You gotta have your own life. Your
friends don't invite you over. Hey you want to? Hey,
you with other friends? Or how a you day? But Dan,
you're absolutely right man. It's like you want your cake.
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You needed too. I want the media to write these loving,
glowing stories, but I don't actually want to communicate with
the media, and especially after a tough match and where
I did which I don't play well because it makes
me feel bad. Well, hey, that ain't the media's fault
that it makes you feel bad if you have to
answer questions about a match. Can the Can the media
understand the proper way to ask questions? Absolutely? Are they
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gonna make mistakes? Yes, yes, And oftentimes they're making a
mistake because they're trying, you know, somebody's asking a question.
They may be trying to prove to Naomi that they
know tennis. They may try to prove to Naomi that
they are sympathetic, and it comes out as unsympathetic. They
may be trying to get a certain quote out of Naomi,
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so they craft day question where you know, it's like
the old Larry King. Were you shocked by what you saw? Yes,
Larry I was shocked by what I saw? Or you
could just say hey, what do you see? How how
do you feel about what you saw? Which Larry I
was shocked, But I'm It's a mistake that we all
make is we try and get a certain answer out
of a question, or we try and prove to people
how smart we are. But again, the media can make mistakes.
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Their intentions are simply to promote the sport that they
probably like that they always cover. And you're gonna like
do the mental health day thing. I don't. I'm not
done with that. If your mental health is so fragile
that you shouldn't be doing Q and A after the match,
that's fine, take time off. Be sure to catch the
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live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. The coaches in the NBA,
the move is pretty simple, right, guy who uh played
or been in around the league, m late thirties is
probably max two forties, max fifties. Right, That's what That's
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what the league. That's what players in the league seem
to respect and respond to the most. And that trend
would continue with with Willie Green for this offseason. A
guy who would fit that it wasn't as a good broadcaster.
I mean Antonio Danis will be a head coach in
the NBA. Um kicking yourself because you'd be a you'd
be a damn good coaching candidate if you weren't, you know,
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collecting millions doing broadcasting collective millions? What kind of broadcasting
job do you think I'm doing? Does damn good? Um?
Will Willie Green? For? People don't know? Uh? Antonio is
the Pelicans analyst, um uh for for for their games? Okay,
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so how does how does Willie fit this crew? And
and some of the discussion about Zion not being happy
over house stan van Gunna used him. Okay. So so
here's my my thing with today's NBA. I understand we
always talk about XS and ose and in game adjustments
and I completely glass that concept, in my opinion, the
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most important aspect or asset you can have, and today's
NBA as an NBA head coach is the ability to
relate to the players and speak their language. There's nothing
more important. You know, UM, the the outdated UM style
of coaching. UM doesn't doesn't fit well because the NBA
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is getting younger. It's getting younger, and you need someone
that can speak their language, speak life and confidence into them.
If you look at some of these jobs that we
are seeing right now, you look at the job that
Monty Williams is doing, and what I love about the
job that Mnty Williams is doing a lot of times
they get what he's saying to us players on microphone,
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and if you just break it down and you listen
to him, he's constantly uplifting them. He's constantly preaching confidence,
talk about the standard that they said in themselves. He
has completely resurrected Camera Paigne's career. That's not bout accident.
You look at Pitts, who's in New York. There's a
reason that Julius Rander was who he was this year
and R. J. Barrett was who he was this year.
Just having that guy that can speak life into those
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young players. I don't think there's anymore anything that's important
as that in today's NBA completely agree that, yes, yes,
you look at what Willie who he was as a player.
I'm another thing I'm big on that. I honestly believe
this is no discredit to the greats of this game,
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but a lot of the great coaches in this league
are role players because they can relate to everyone up
and down that bench. Willie Green, at some point his
career has started, Willy Green, at some point this career
has been a six men. At some point in his career,
his minutes were consistent, and at another point in his
career he wasn't playing at all. So when you look
down that bitch, there's not a puss, know that bit
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that's going through something that you can't relate to. And
I think that's incredibly important. Do you look at guys
like Avery Johnson and Rick Carlyle and Steve Kerr some
of these guys that are fantastic coaches that have had
the highs and lows as players, and to relate to
what a player is going through with his personal highs
and lows and what agree can accept for that he
is a mid major guy that made it out the
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mud and his twelve year career you know, he had
to work. He wasn't drafted high or none of that stuff,
so all he knows right now is hard work and preparation.
I think it's the Pelicans do indeed make this move.
I think it's a fantastic move for the organization. Um,
all right, let's let's get to USA basketball. I think
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the question is you've played for pop, you know how
it operates. What what? What do you think is wrong
with the team. I don't say what the echo what
I said on my show today and last week. If
you're not going to send your best, Doug and your
best is the Steps and the k ds along with
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Kauai and Lebron and James Harden. If you're not going
to send your best, the next best thing is to
put guys on that floor whose skill set complement one another.
The pieces have to fit, they have to fit. It's
one or the other. They have to be a plan
that's put in place. If you go back to that
that that team that won the Bronze, uh way back,
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when do you look at some of the greats that
they had on that team. They had Kim Duncan on
that team. They have Lebron, James on that team, Alan Iverson,
Stepan Marbury, UM, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony. But they still
want the bronze because the pieces didn't fit. But they
had other guy They had Carlos Boozer and some of
those other guys. The pieces didn't fit. And when I
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look at this USA team, I see the k ds
and the Damielle Alerts and the Bradley bells and the
Jayson tatums and out side of that, that's the talent part.
But I don't think the pieces fit. That's my biggest stake.
It's not our best have it there and yours is
not there. Then you better make sure that the plan
put in place so you have God that compliment the
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guy that you plan on playing through. And you don't
see that right now. No, I I agree with you.
I mean I I think some of it is the
pieces don't fit. I also think there's some of it
is the kind of the culture of of of how
we do things right um, whether it's whether it's as
ball stoppers instead of moving the basketball. And I understand
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they only had four days of practice, but were they
able to accomplish what they really need to accomplish in
those four days or was it four days of like,
let's put in a couple of sets and let's go
up and down and bumps or in shape right and
and and then I'm not sure there's I don't believe
it's it's as great an honor as it should be.
And I just maybe it's because I don't know what
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what the feeling is, but I don't. I don't feel
like it's as think a thing to our players as
it is to other players to represent our country. With you,
I agree with you. I honestly feel like the peak
uh basketball pinnacle and the United States is what we're
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watching right now between the Phoenix Suns and the Milwaukee Bucks.
I think it's the NBA Championship. I think that that
trumps everything else right along, right along, It trumps everything else.
You know, it's a think about how we view it, though, Doug.
If a guy wins two gold medals and no NBA championships,
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he's not considered a winner. So we actually put the
onus on NBA championships too. Look at someone like Carmelo Anthony.
I have seen so many people talk about his career
and blah blah blah blah blah blah, and he can't
do this, and he didn't do this, and you know what,
what's he have three gold medals? Like, think of well,
you put the onus here in our own country so
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we can talk about the players saying, oh, well, you
know what, man, I don't know what. It doesn't mean
that much. We don't put that much emphasis on it either.
You know why, because we are so accustomed to dominate it.
That's why we were spoiled by Dream Team one and
Dream Team too. But now what we see is that
the world is closed in their gap. Our last two,
in our last three m vps aren't from the United States.
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You look at guys like Luca and guys that are
really really making a run that m v p Yo
Kitchen back to back, Yannis Joel emb all these guys
are in the MVP talk. A lot of these guys
aren't from the United States. So now what that means
all these other countries are catching up to us. You
can't just go out there anymore and do what we
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did with Dream Team one. Because these teams that we
are playing against, the Australia, the Argentina's, you know, uh, Nigeria,
these teams have chemistry, they have Cornnerie and we always
have a target on our back. We're never the hunter.
We're always the hunted for as long as we can remember.
So every time the team played the United States is
similar to this year when the team played Brooklets or
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years ago when teams used to play Golden States. You're
gonna get that team for best because it's something to
be said. Would you defeat the United States in basketball?
Antonio Daniels joining us from the Doug Outlands Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Can they fix it? Yes? I think
they can fix it because our talent. We have a
lot of talent, steel and process. Team is not hold
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Like if you go back to the past dominance of
the United States, you know one of the good things
was depth. So even when you had that first team
that was incredible, and when that first team came out,
that second team that came in was was pretty dark
good too, if not incredible. And what you see between
this first unit and the second unit is a drafted
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drop off in the two because you have guys that
are getting minutes that won't even be a part of
this team when they go to Tokyo. Because you guys
that are missing from this roster are now playing in
the NBA Finals. So I think when this team is
whole and they're complete, and the rotations are understood and
you get defense in room and shooting and and Dvin
Booker and and Chris Middleton's I think that changes things.
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I think they can fix it when you put the
talent along with some of the other things. And I
think the eyes have been open. I think America thought,
because like many of us, thought, that they can just
show up. That's it. The man we got Kevin Durant Man,
we got Damian Littlear, we got Bradley Beale, Jayson Tatum Man.
All we gotta do is show up. And what the
world of saying is no, you gotta show up and
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compete because we're coming. Antonio Daniels, our guest in the
dug Outlives show on Fox Sports Radio. How sustainable is
what the Bucks were able to do in Game three?
Do you know? For me, Doug, I think they need
they get sustated at home, and they've shown that throughout
the course of the playoffs there it's gonna have to
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come to game here. What they doing on the road,
Like if you go back to the Brooklyn series, think
about how the first two games win in Brooklyn, that
second game in Brooklyn game to the Brooklyn they got
their heads beat in. I mean to the point where
people were saying, oh man, this series is over after
two games. But then they go home and they found
the rhythm and then they're winning four the last five games.
So now if you look at what they've done the
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first two games in Phoenix, and I said, after game two,
win Phoenix. You might have lost that game, but there
are some some little nuggets that you could have took
away from from game two that you can carry over
in the game three. The fact that the matter is
for the Milwaukee Bucks obviously to win, they're gonna be
able to have to travel with what they're doing at home.
They want to have to travel with it. So you
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may show up tomorrow and win another game. But if
you continue to do this at home, they can't carry
this over to that road venue in Phoenix, then it's useless.
That basically what we're talking about is Phoenix being NBA
champions in seven games. So what it took was Janie
being honest and drew to Middleton actually showing up on
the road. In booklet, it took other guys showing up
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on the road, and that's what's going to have to
happen for them to get over that hump now. But
they just have to do what it feedings. He's Antonio Daniels.
Of course. You can hear him on Sirius x M
NBA Radio. You can see him called the Pelicans games
the upcoming season FALM on social media. He's great at
a Daniels thirty three tone. Have a great summer. Love
hearing you talk hoops on Fox Sports Radio for sure? Anytime?
(32:28):
Do you stay blessed? Brother? You too? That's my cay
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on this show and the Doug Gotlip Show. We try
and search out a TV show, radio show, hopefully on
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like the commentary we thought about it. This is Brandon
Marshall and first things first, sharing his top three wide
receivers not named DeAndre Hopkins. Here's three guys that I'm
telling you right now. If you were drafting and you
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had to pick a doll, these are guys that can
go get it done right now. Number one, you gotta
go a Green Bay. Oh my goodness, this Adams kid
is lights out. He can do it all inside in
the slide, he can play X, he can play Z,
the white side of the field, the short side of
the field. He is unstoppable. There isn't one cornerback that
can go toe to toe with him for sixty minutes.
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It won't happen. And then Diggs. Diggs arguably be, arguably
can be the number one. He is unstoppable. His stopping start,
his explosive it from side to side is out of
this world. And he has this deceptive speed to get deep.
And he's tough and tyright tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill. He
is the most underrated white receiver in the game. When
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we talk about the top wide receivers, we never mentioned him.
He's always the guy in and me last year he
was always a guy like, who's the one guy missing everybody?
Tyreek Hill, Brandon tyreek Hill. So this is my top
three right now. I like that list. First of all,
I should even noticed that if in case you forgot,
Brandon Marshall was a great wide receiver in his day.
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I've been a step on Diggs. I before being a
Stefan Digs guy was cool. I love him. I think
he's amazing. I think he's he's simply amazing. And of
course he led the NFL and receiving yards last year.
DeAndre Hopkins was second among wide receivers third overall. Obviously,
Travis Kelsey fourteen hundred yards. He's essentially a I mean,
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he's uh, he's essentially a wide receiver. So I do
think you need to at least consider that, right, He
considered Travis Kelsey, who four hundred and sixteen yards and
he only played fifteen games. Remember they didn't play Week sixteen. Um.
But if it's me and I'm selecting, those are really
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the three guys. And and I wouldn't put Julio Jones
because I think he's he's on the downside of his career. Um.
Obviously there's Mike Well, There's there's Mike Evans. But it's
also what's his name, Mike from New Orleans, UM, who
struggled fast year, Mike Michael Thomas who had a disappointing
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year last year, but has you know, had a hundred
twenty catches in the year. But if it's me, digs
to me as the best route runner. Vante Adams is
probably the best all around. And Tyreek Hill you actually
have to game plan for Tyreek Hill, actually have to
game plan for him and set your entire defense. He
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is a game changer with he's the fastest guy in
the NFL, and he's the fastest guy on the field
in the NFL as well. He's Those are my top
three as well. Doug Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, Buyer,
Would you like to add to that? Would you like
to throw in your DK Metcalf? Would you like to
not yet? Not yet? Um. I think that he has
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the ability to to get there, and I think he
has the ability to get to the number one spot
for how freakish he is with his size and speed.
I do think that he still uh deals with the
drop set times, so maybe sometimes it's too easy for him,
but I do think that he has the ability to
get there. I actually like that Brandon Marshall mentioned Tyreek
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Hill and what he does because I think I've even
said on this show that his just skills as a
wide receiver of something as simple as just making sure
you catch with your hands is something that Tyreek Hill
is exceptionally good at his He he has wide receiver skills.
You may just think he's a fast guy, but yeah,
I really like the Tyree Hill the You know, a
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guy like Calvin Ridley in Atlanta could be uh there
at some point, but we'll have to see how they respond.
I just don't think that those those guys are ready.
You're right about Julio Jones, but Digs, Hopkins, Adams, and
Hill right now in the primes of their careers. I
think that those are the four that you'd have to
go with Gavin you want to throw any Bellson, I
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feel like A. J. Brown got snubbed a little bit.
He might be my favorite deep threat in the league.
And also O'Dell. He was on a list I've seen
as well by Jalen Ramsey. He had him number two.
I think that's too high. But O'Dell when he's healthy,
it's hard to find a better threat out there now.
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He and he was in his first four years in
the league, or is good or better than anybody else's
first four years in the league at the exact same position.
So I don't I don't think that's a it's a
bad pick. I just I think that Odell Beckham benefited
so much with having Eli Manning as his quarterback, and
Eli does not get any of that credit. Eli didn't
care where he threw the ball. That's why I led
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the league in interception. He would throw it. That's why
Adell could make those catches because you're like, why is
Eli throwing the ball in those places? I think he
he really benefited from having Eli Manning as his quarterback.
It's true. I was looking Keenyan Allen's numbers right now,
and he was actually down last year even with Justin Herbert.
But that for the same reason with and yeah, Allen
maybe should be put in that in that top four.
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I mean he's amazing. He really is. You want to
talk about prime of your career, that that actually is
a really good good catch. Yeah, No, he's He's probably
the least like I still think people and Mike Williams
saying people freak out about because but he's it's I
think it's because he was so good in college and
he does make some unbelievably spectacular catches. Keenan Allen is
a better wide receiver, right, I mean he's the guy
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who if you want to first down, you go to
Keenan Allen, right, and that that's that's what you do.
It's it's also interesting we never consider any of the
slot guys, and and granted they're not as good as
slot guys now as there was when we had the
Welkers and the Edelman's and and some of those guys.
But those slot guys are really, really talented. A Cooper
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Cup is a game changing player, whether it's inside or outside.
I wouldn't put him as the top three. All right,
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gottleep Show? Fox Sports Radio les cover matches, all the
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slash Yes, two thousand neils report limitations apply. Um, what
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is Kobe Bryant most known for? Most known for? I mean,
obviously Kobe is known as a was known as a
great bassketball player. Um, but I would say that what's
happened since he passed and maybe even before he passed,
as he became kind of this um leadership savant, you know,
(01:16):
and he he had there's quotes out there there, they
are great ones. Right, everything negative pressure, challenges, it's all
an opportunity for me to rise. Yeah, that's a that's
a pretty good one. I mean, there's a there's you.
You go in Google like the greatest quotes in Kobe
Bryant history. Right to overcome challenge the moment I accept
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the most challenging times will always be behind me. And
this is this is a moment I accept that most
challenging times will always be behind me and in front
of me. Mhm. The most important thing is to try
to inspire things to be great whatever they want to do.
That's that's really good. Um. Once you know what failure
(02:05):
feels like, determination chases success. I like that one night.
That one. That's a that's a really good one, really
really good one. Um. I think that the end all
be all. Like I can't relate to lazy people. We
don't speak the same language. I don't understand you. I
don't want to understand you. Hey, here's one pain doesn't
(02:30):
tell you when you ought to stop. Paint is a
little voice in your head that tries to hold you
back because it knows if you continue, you will change.
It's pretty good, right. And and here's here's the last thing.
If you want to be great at something, there's a
choice you have to make. What I mean by this
is there are inherent sacrifice to come along with that,
family time, hanging out with friends, being being a great friend,
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being a great son, nephew, whatever the case may be.
We all have self doubt. You don't deny it, but
you also don't capitulate to it. You embrace it. Okay.
So that's the late great Kobe Bryant. That was his
philosophy in how to push through really really tough times.
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Naomi Osaka is a very young, very talented tennis savant.
And if you wonder what was missing at Wimbledon, right,
it's like we're still care about Serena. Like Serena has
been doing it for so long it's impossible things she
can continue at that and she was done early and
there was really no kind of reason to watch. That's
because Naomi Osaka is taking time off her mental health.
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She said this in Time magazine. In my opinion, the
press conference format itself is out of date and it's
in great need of a refresh. I believe we can
make it better, more interesting, more enjoyable for each side,
less subject versus object, more peer to peer. Perhaps we
should give athletes the right to take a mental break
from media scrutiny on the rare occasion without being subject
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to strict sanctions. I have numerous suggestions to offer the
tennis hierarchy, but my number one suggestion would be allowed
a small number of sick days per year where you're
excusing your press commitments without having to disclose your personal reasons.
I believe this would bring sports in line with the
rest of society. Okay, reasonable thought, Gavin, What do you
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think when you hear I think it's a selfish move
that she wants to change an entire system that's in
place because she's uncomfortable. I don't think that works in
any line of work. Um, I don't think you can.
I think you need to adapt before you ask others
to ramos Um. Basically, she wants sick days, and I
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was just saying she she's saying she wants sick days
from the media. She wants she wants to like not
a Mulligan, but she wants a you know, I'm not
feeling it. I don't want to answer questions about today's match.
I want to opt I want to opt out clause.
But just from the press conferences, right, That's that's her
first thing. She clearly doesn't like the press conferences. Yeah, um,
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I think it's part of part of what you have
to do when you're in that position baseball players, tennis players, whatever, golf.
So yeah, I do think you need to. I don't
agree with that, it's my point. Yet, she should be
able to get in front of the media and speak
to them, whether it's two minutes or ten minutes. She
needs to be able to be accessible to them after
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a match or before a match, and then after that
she can leave fire you your thoughts, you know. I
I just look at Tiger Woods, who, no matter what happened,
and sure Tiger had a lot of great success, he
was the one that every TV network wanted to talk
to after and I would have to say, nine percent
of the times he was doing those interviews, he rarely declined.
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Uh for a sure a variety of reasons. But you
know that's that's the standard that that I have. I
just don't know. I don't know how you can say
I'm ready to talk about, you know, only the good
and not the bad, because I think that athletes would
would take advantage of that definitely, and and by the way,
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she can take advantage of it. Um, I must have missed.
I must have missed a contentious press conference where people
were putting her on the hot set, Like I don't.
This feels to me again, like like what what I
consider scapegoating the media? Like the what what is the
We do understand that the media is not there to
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break down her personal life, to tear apart her tennis game.
It's really there just to tell the story for people
who couldn't see it, or give context to people who
did see it on something they didn't know. And oh yeah,
by the way, to promote promote the sport, Like there's
an absolute value to having the media have a Q
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and A with a star player before or after the match.
I don't think you need to do one before or
the running press commerce. I don't think that does And
if she said correct, I know. Yeah. By the way,
in terms of controlling your own content, that's what social
media is for. You can put out there whatever you'd like.
But yeah, we asked you to, Hey, you know, give
us ten fifteen minutes here we can insert some questions
(07:26):
like is that and and the reason I read that
Kobe Bryant quotes is like I always thought this was
what made the great athletes great is that they can um,
what's it called when you compartmentalize, Yeah, that's it. When
you compart you can compartmentalize the media, thing, family stuff,
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like it's all in different kind of buckets and when
and and meanwhile, maintain your focus when you step on
the floor of the pitch or the field or or
the court whatever. Right. I always thought that's what made
the great ones great, is that they can do all
these things like that's part of the job. That's part
of the job. That's I think that the bigger part
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of it. Right, everyone has part of their like this
is the And again I don't know enough about about
what's really behind the Naomi Osaka stuff, but I can
tell you that that generally, generally tennis obviously a country
club sport. People coming for the most part the Williams
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Sisters as an exception from affluence, right, and I fully
understand it is a mentally withering sport. I played tennis
competitively for two years. I still obviously premium meansury like
to play tennis. It is a mentally withering sport. You
are alone, alone on an island, and for Naomi Osaka,
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you're paying playing in these massive tennis venues for millions
of dollars and you're on an island and the only
thing you can blame is the chair umpire, okay, or
your racket. That's really it, the chair umpire or the racket.
So it's a mentally taxing sport. I but there's also
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this kind of country club mentality to it, like, yeah,
I don't want to I don't want to relive any
of my bad moments, Like what what do you? What
do you even? What are you even talking about? Everyone
in their job? Okay, so let's let's Gavin. Yes, Kevin,
your job, uh is to produce the show, but it's
(09:34):
also you helped produce my podcast, which could mean for
helping record a podcast at odd times and throughout the day.
Correct is that the hardest or worst part of your job?
It's not the worst part, but I think the thing
is like if I just said I'm not going to
do that anymore, or if we do the whole Life
show and I refuse to put up the podcast, that's like,
(09:56):
those are key elements of my job. And when you're
an athlete, you do need you have that responsibility to
talk to the media. What's the worst part of your
job robs jeez, Um, I don't know. I don't like
being told like what to play like sometimes like if
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I'm running the board, like oh do this, do that?
Like my job is all about like how I feel
and what I feel needs to be done at a
certain time. And so when people say, oh, do this
drop or do that, I don't like that. I don't
like people telling me what my job should be. You've
been doing it long enough, you've been doing it well enough,
Like I got it. I don't need I don't need
(10:39):
to be microman That's correct. Okay, respect that, totally, respect that.
All right? What about you there, Dan Buy Our worst
part about your job just I interrupt you when you're
trying to actually do your job to kill some time
on my shows. It is it's more just so the
tedious nature of typing, of of doing all the things
that I need to to type typing is I mean,
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the only thing worse is if you had to handwrite it,
which is just that's the tediousness of it. If that's
even a word, that is a word, judges, we come
up a teds you could go tedious nature of the job. Um,
what's the worst part my job is pretty sick. Uh yeah,
(11:29):
I mean like this job honestly, like it's the best
part about Fox Sports radios. We don't have any of those,
dumb I don't have meetings, you know, so we used
to have these moons at ESPN. We used had these meetings.
You're like, why are we doing this? What is it? Like, Well,
it's really important we all get on the same page.
Like I send it in an email, you know, well,
we don't know if you'll read it an email Like okay, well,
then write it so well that I'm gonna read it.
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Worst part about the job, um, I would say, Look,
the hardest part about doing the job is there are
some days in which you're like, I don't feel like
talking to everybody about stuff. You know where I I
watched and I got I got nothing. I got nothing.
And that's when I need Gavin's help and Buyer's help,
(12:14):
and Ramas's help, and I'll call some friends as well,
and and and Lee Mayak who books the show, get
her help to get some more guests on. But look,
you you do it two thirty some odd days a year,
and they're gonna be days whence you're just like, you know,
but you have to, so so I would say go ahead,
by well I was I was just gonna say, like,
isn't you know, like, isn't that Like. I think there's
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a huge catch twenty two when it comes with uh,
what Naomi Osaka is talking about? And I think it
goes a lot of different ways. Some days you have it,
some days you don't. You get criticized if you don't
say anything, and then when you do say something, you
still get criticized for that. But I also think that
there's a there's a you know, a catch twenty two
with on the you know, you're just talking about your job. Yeah,
(12:58):
there's great days where there's there's not in three hours
is not enough to talk about what is going on?
And then there's the other days where you you know,
forty five minutes and you'd be good, you could wrap
it up in a podcast for everything that's on your mind,
and so it kind of ebbs and flows. But I
also think then in the role of the reporter that
and no one has any sympathy for the media or
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the role of the reporter. So I understand what I'm
saying is probably not going to be popular. But if
I were to go into a press conference to say,
Naomi Osaka, can you just talk about what your hamstring
injury you know, has done, or can you talk about
how your backhand has been going? And then everybody says,
how why don't you ask your a question. It's a
question that I would say, Naomi, your backhand has not
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been successful lately in the last six tournaments. Now you're
being criticized because you're pointing out a negative thing like
there is it is a no win situation in a
lot of this in how you have to deal. And again,
the press doesn't get any any flak for this, But
Naomi Osaka put in a thing like I love the press,
I just don't love the press conferences. Well, I don't
know if you can have it both ways. I don't
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know if you could do an interview with Time listen
that I would. I would disagree with you the question
part because you made a statement before the question, right.
That's where people can always get themselves in trouble. Just hey,
no mean sure, but how's your back head? But but
but that's again, that's we're we're getting in the weeds
over things. Your bigger point was a totally accurate point.
They wanted both ways. We we want we want great relationships,
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perfect stories. I just I don't want to after a match.
I don't want to. I don't want to give you anything.
I don't I don't have time or the mental energy.
I don't want to. I already have it going on
in my head. I don't want to talk to you.
Right Like, that worked that way. That that's me saying, like,
I mean, look, would everybody like the Howard certain thing, Like, hey,
what if I worked three days a week and I
had a huge staff, and I like three days a
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week to do a to do a show. I mean,
how good would you be? And like, you have an
unbelievable guests you can keep for you have no commercials
if you don't want to, right Like, But that's a
because he's the absolute king of radio, right of audio,
that he's the only guy that could get away with that.
The rest of us, like, we gotta punch the clock
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five days a week, and there's gonna be some days
you don't have to. That's that's the deal, dude, And
it's it's to me. This is no different Naomi Osaka
complaining about the media and the press conferences and no
different than a janitor complaining about cleaning up crap in
in a bathroom, Like you didn't know it was janitorial service, right,
Like you're gonna have to clean up. It's part of
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the PRIs, it's part of the job requirements. It's you know,
I'll tell you the worst part about my job is
like I'm paid to give my opinion. Sometimes I give
my opinion. You don't like it, or a boss doesn't
like it. Not necessarily radio boss, but another boss might
not like it. They're like, well I don't like your opinion.
We're like, okay, well what would you pay me for?
You pay me to give an opinion? Right, But again,
(15:54):
that's that's a job hazard. Is the only job hazard
she has. That's it. So I'm sorry, I don't think
this is about mental health. I don't think you get
a mental health day. And oh yeah, by the way, sorry,
we do judge athletes differently than we do anybody else.
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You can. It's not just your physical ability to do
things that we can't, it's your mental ability to do
things we can't. Right, there's lots of dudes who can
go out on a course and there better than scratch golfers, right,
but put him in a tournament, put some money on
(16:40):
the line, and it's like that Tiger Woods golf commercial, Yeah,
where you're like just shaking. I mean, there's I had
a teammate named Zach Kazell at Oklahoma State. He's a
walk on, he played baseball. He's from Ripley, Oklahoma. And
Zach was like preseason practice our senior year. He was awesome.
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And I told the coaches like, and I think Zach
needs be in the rotation. They're like really, like yeah, man,
he can really plays, can guard, he can rebound. He's
six five, he's bouncy. And they're like, yeah, different when
the lights around the popcorns popping and like that. That's
really the difference to some guys. It's not necessarily ability. Now.
I'm sure had he gotten a bunch of minutes, he
(17:23):
would have settled down. But he couldn't settle down. So
I I it's it's not that I'm not sympathetic and
I and I said this last week with the Aaron Rodgers,
like we conflate the mental I need a mental health break, Like, look,
do I want you to be healthy mentally? Absolutely. I'm
not some Satanist who's like I want you all to
(17:44):
be completely screwed up in the head. No, right, But
part of sports is pushing through. That's mental toughness, is
pushing through when you're not feeling like doing it and
getting yourself to the gym to the court, you're going
and doing it. And you gotta have that same mentality
with the media. How do I maintain my poise, maintain
my composure, get through these next ten or fifteen minutes,
(18:06):
walk out with a smile, and then go about my day,
Like we're not asking that much of you. And the
mental health awareness that we're preaching, Like, but we're talking
about like suicides and major major depression and people not
being able to get out of their bed, Like these
things are real problems and we need to understand that
with between COVID and social media, Like social media is
(18:29):
hard on kids. For example, right, you your kid, you're
begging for Instagram. You put them on Instagram, and then
they're sitting at home on a Friday night. They look
on Instagram and their friends are all hanging out together
and they're not invited. Like that's hard on a kid.
That's a mental health issue that you have to help
them through. But Are we just not gonna have friends
(18:51):
you're not allowed to have not allowed to have sleepovers
unless everybody's included. Or do you teach your kids like, hey,
this is part of You're not gonna You can't foam
all over everything. You gotta have your own life. Your
friends don't invite you over. Hey you want to? Hey,
you with other friends? Or how a you day? But Dan,
you're absolutely right man. It's like you want your cake.
(19:13):
You needed too. I want the media to write these loving,
glowing stories, but I don't actually want to communicate with
the media, and especially after a tough match and where
I did which I don't play well because it makes
me feel bad. Well, hey, that ain't the media's fault
that it makes you feel bad if you have to
answer questions about a match. Can the Can the media
understand the proper way to ask questions? Absolutely? Are they
(19:36):
gonna make mistakes? Yes, yes, And oftentimes they're making a
mistake because they're trying, you know, somebody's asking a question.
They may be trying to prove to Naomi that they
know tennis. They may try to prove to Naomi that
they are sympathetic, and it comes out as unsympathetic. They
may be trying to get a certain quote out of Naomi,
(19:58):
so they craft day question where you know, it's like
the old Larry King. Were you shocked by what you saw? Yes,
Larry I was shocked by what I saw? Or you
could just say hey, what do you see? How how
do you feel about what you saw? Which Larry I
was shocked, But I'm It's a mistake that we all
make is we try and get a certain answer out
of a question, or we try and prove to people
how smart we are. But again, the media can make mistakes.
(20:22):
Their intentions are simply to promote the sport that they
probably like that they always cover. And you're gonna like
do the mental health day thing. I don't. I'm not
done with that. If your mental health is so fragile
that you shouldn't be doing Q and A after the match,
that's fine, take time off. Be sure to catch the
(20:43):
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. The coaches in the NBA,
the move is pretty simple, right, guy who uh played
or been in around the league, m late thirties is
probably max two forties, max fifties. Right, That's what That's
(21:06):
what the league. That's what players in the league seem
to respect and respond to the most. And that trend
would continue with with Willie Green for this offseason. A
guy who would fit that it wasn't as a good broadcaster.
I mean Antonio Danis will be a head coach in
the NBA. Um kicking yourself because you'd be a you'd
be a damn good coaching candidate if you weren't, you know,
(21:28):
collecting millions doing broadcasting collective millions? What kind of broadcasting
job do you think I'm doing? Does damn good? Um?
Will Willie Green? For? People don't know? Uh? Antonio is
the Pelicans analyst, um uh for for for their games? Okay,
(21:50):
so how does how does Willie fit this crew? And
and some of the discussion about Zion not being happy
over house stan van Gunna used him. Okay. So so
here's my my thing with today's NBA. I understand we
always talk about XS and ose and in game adjustments
and I completely glass that concept, in my opinion, the
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most important aspect or asset you can have, and today's
NBA as an NBA head coach is the ability to
relate to the players and speak their language. There's nothing
more important. You know, UM, the the outdated UM style
of coaching. UM doesn't doesn't fit well because the NBA
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is getting younger. It's getting younger, and you need someone
that can speak their language, speak life and confidence into them.
If you look at some of these jobs that we
are seeing right now, you look at the job that
Monty Williams is doing, and what I love about the
job that Mnty Williams is doing a lot of times
they get what he's saying to us players on microphone,
(22:56):
and if you just break it down and you listen
to him, he's constantly uplifting them. He's constantly preaching confidence,
talk about the standard that they said in themselves. He
has completely resurrected Camera Paigne's career. That's not bout accident.
You look at Pitts, who's in New York. There's a
reason that Julius Rander was who he was this year
and R. J. Barrett was who he was this year.
Just having that guy that can speak life into those
(23:19):
young players. I don't think there's anymore anything that's important
as that in today's NBA completely agree that, yes, yes,
you look at what Willie who he was as a player.
I'm another thing I'm big on that. I honestly believe
this is no discredit to the greats of this game,
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but a lot of the great coaches in this league
are role players because they can relate to everyone up
and down that bench. Willie Green, at some point his
career has started, Willy Green, at some point this career
has been a six men. At some point in his career,
his minutes were consistent, and at another point in his
career he wasn't playing at all. So when you look
down that bitch, there's not a puss, know that bit
(24:00):
that's going through something that you can't relate to. And
I think that's incredibly important. Do you look at guys
like Avery Johnson and Rick Carlyle and Steve Kerr some
of these guys that are fantastic coaches that have had
the highs and lows as players, and to relate to
what a player is going through with his personal highs
and lows and what agree can accept for that he
is a mid major guy that made it out the
(24:21):
mud and his twelve year career you know, he had
to work. He wasn't drafted high or none of that stuff,
so all he knows right now is hard work and preparation.
I think it's the Pelicans do indeed make this move.
I think it's a fantastic move for the organization. Um,
all right, let's let's get to USA basketball. I think
(24:43):
the question is you've played for pop, you know how
it operates. What what? What do you think is wrong
with the team. I don't say what the echo what
I said on my show today and last week. If
you're not going to send your best, Doug and your
best is the Steps and the k ds along with
(25:07):
Kauai and Lebron and James Harden. If you're not going
to send your best, the next best thing is to
put guys on that floor whose skill set complement one another.
The pieces have to fit, they have to fit. It's
one or the other. They have to be a plan
that's put in place. If you go back to that
that that team that won the Bronze, uh way back,
(25:30):
when do you look at some of the greats that
they had on that team. They had Kim Duncan on
that team. They have Lebron, James on that team, Alan Iverson,
Stepan Marbury, UM, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony. But they still
want the bronze because the pieces didn't fit. But they
had other guy They had Carlos Boozer and some of
those other guys. The pieces didn't fit. And when I
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look at this USA team, I see the k ds
and the Damielle Alerts and the Bradley bells and the
Jayson tatums and out side of that, that's the talent part.
But I don't think the pieces fit. That's my biggest stake.
It's not our best have it there and yours is
not there. Then you better make sure that the plan
put in place so you have God that compliment the
(26:13):
guy that you plan on playing through. And you don't
see that right now. No, I I agree with you.
I mean I I think some of it is the
pieces don't fit. I also think there's some of it
is the kind of the culture of of of how
we do things right um, whether it's whether it's as
ball stoppers instead of moving the basketball. And I understand
(26:34):
they only had four days of practice, but were they
able to accomplish what they really need to accomplish in
those four days or was it four days of like,
let's put in a couple of sets and let's go
up and down and bumps or in shape right and
and and then I'm not sure there's I don't believe
it's it's as great an honor as it should be.
And I just maybe it's because I don't know what
(26:57):
what the feeling is, but I don't. I don't feel
like it's as think a thing to our players as
it is to other players to represent our country. With you,
I agree with you. I honestly feel like the peak
uh basketball pinnacle and the United States is what we're
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watching right now between the Phoenix Suns and the Milwaukee Bucks.
I think it's the NBA Championship. I think that that
trumps everything else right along, right along, It trumps everything else.
You know, it's a think about how we view it, though, Doug.
If a guy wins two gold medals and no NBA championships,
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he's not considered a winner. So we actually put the
onus on NBA championships too. Look at someone like Carmelo Anthony.
I have seen so many people talk about his career
and blah blah blah blah blah blah, and he can't
do this, and he didn't do this, and you know what,
what's he have three gold medals? Like, think of well,
you put the onus here in our own country so
(28:03):
we can talk about the players saying, oh, well, you
know what, man, I don't know what. It doesn't mean
that much. We don't put that much emphasis on it either.
You know why, because we are so accustomed to dominate it.
That's why we were spoiled by Dream Team one and
Dream Team too. But now what we see is that
the world is closed in their gap. Our last two,
in our last three m vps aren't from the United States.
(28:26):
You look at guys like Luca and guys that are
really really making a run that m v p Yo
Kitchen back to back, Yannis Joel emb all these guys
are in the MVP talk. A lot of these guys
aren't from the United States. So now what that means
all these other countries are catching up to us. You
can't just go out there anymore and do what we
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did with Dream Team one. Because these teams that we
are playing against, the Australia, the Argentina's, you know, uh, Nigeria,
these teams have chemistry, they have Cornnerie and we always
have a target on our back. We're never the hunter.
We're always the hunted for as long as we can remember.
So every time the team played the United States is
similar to this year when the team played Brooklets or
(29:10):
years ago when teams used to play Golden States. You're
gonna get that team for best because it's something to
be said. Would you defeat the United States in basketball?
Antonio Daniels joining us from the Doug Outlands Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Can they fix it? Yes? I think
they can fix it because our talent. We have a
lot of talent, steel and process. Team is not hold
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Like if you go back to the past dominance of
the United States, you know one of the good things
was depth. So even when you had that first team
that was incredible, and when that first team came out,
that second team that came in was was pretty dark
good too, if not incredible. And what you see between
this first unit and the second unit is a drafted
(29:53):
drop off in the two because you have guys that
are getting minutes that won't even be a part of
this team when they go to Tokyo. Because you guys
that are missing from this roster are now playing in
the NBA Finals. So I think when this team is
whole and they're complete, and the rotations are understood and
you get defense in room and shooting and and Dvin
Booker and and Chris Middleton's I think that changes things.
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I think they can fix it when you put the
talent along with some of the other things. And I
think the eyes have been open. I think America thought,
because like many of us, thought, that they can just
show up. That's it. The man we got Kevin Durant Man,
we got Damian Littlear, we got Bradley Beale, Jayson Tatum Man.
All we gotta do is show up. And what the
world of saying is no, you gotta show up and
(30:36):
compete because we're coming. Antonio Daniels, our guest in the
dug Outlives show on Fox Sports Radio. How sustainable is
what the Bucks were able to do in Game three?
Do you know? For me, Doug, I think they need
they get sustated at home, and they've shown that throughout
the course of the playoffs there it's gonna have to
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come to game here. What they doing on the road,
Like if you go back to the Brooklyn series, think
about how the first two games win in Brooklyn, that
second game in Brooklyn game to the Brooklyn they got
their heads beat in. I mean to the point where
people were saying, oh man, this series is over after
two games. But then they go home and they found
the rhythm and then they're winning four the last five games.
So now if you look at what they've done the
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first two games in Phoenix, and I said, after game two,
win Phoenix. You might have lost that game, but there
are some some little nuggets that you could have took
away from from game two that you can carry over
in the game three. The fact that the matter is
for the Milwaukee Bucks obviously to win, they're gonna be
able to have to travel with what they're doing at home.
They want to have to travel with it. So you
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may show up tomorrow and win another game. But if
you continue to do this at home, they can't carry
this over to that road venue in Phoenix, then it's useless.
That basically what we're talking about is Phoenix being NBA
champions in seven games. So what it took was Janie
being honest and drew to Middleton actually showing up on
the road. In booklet, it took other guys showing up
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on the road, and that's what's going to have to
happen for them to get over that hump now. But
they just have to do what it feedings. He's Antonio Daniels.
Of course. You can hear him on Sirius x M
NBA Radio. You can see him called the Pelicans games
the upcoming season FALM on social media. He's great at
a Daniels thirty three tone. Have a great summer. Love
hearing you talk hoops on Fox Sports Radio for sure? Anytime?
(32:28):
Do you stay blessed? Brother? You too? That's my cay
Antonio Daniels. It's an awesome dude with a ton of
smart opinions based upon a long and storied career in
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(32:49):
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(33:09):
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Let's uh get to what the Fox said every day
(33:33):
on this show and the Doug Gotlip Show. We try
and search out a TV show, radio show, hopefully on
one of the Fox TV or radio stations that we
like the commentary we thought about it. This is Brandon
Marshall and first things first, sharing his top three wide
receivers not named DeAndre Hopkins. Here's three guys that I'm
telling you right now. If you were drafting and you
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had to pick a doll, these are guys that can
go get it done right now. Number one, you gotta
go a Green Bay. Oh my goodness, this Adams kid
is lights out. He can do it all inside in
the slide, he can play X, he can play Z,
the white side of the field, the short side of
the field. He is unstoppable. There isn't one cornerback that
can go toe to toe with him for sixty minutes.
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It won't happen. And then Diggs. Diggs arguably be, arguably
can be the number one. He is unstoppable. His stopping start,
his explosive it from side to side is out of
this world. And he has this deceptive speed to get deep.
And he's tough and tyright tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill. He
is the most underrated white receiver in the game. When
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we talk about the top wide receivers, we never mentioned him.
He's always the guy in and me last year he
was always a guy like, who's the one guy missing everybody?
Tyreek Hill, Brandon tyreek Hill. So this is my top
three right now. I like that list. First of all,
I should even noticed that if in case you forgot,
Brandon Marshall was a great wide receiver in his day.
(34:58):
I've been a step on Diggs. I before being a
Stefan Digs guy was cool. I love him. I think
he's amazing. I think he's he's simply amazing. And of
course he led the NFL and receiving yards last year.
DeAndre Hopkins was second among wide receivers third overall. Obviously,
Travis Kelsey fourteen hundred yards. He's essentially a I mean,
(35:19):
he's uh, he's essentially a wide receiver. So I do
think you need to at least consider that, right, He
considered Travis Kelsey, who four hundred and sixteen yards and
he only played fifteen games. Remember they didn't play Week sixteen. Um.
But if it's me and I'm selecting, those are really
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the three guys. And and I wouldn't put Julio Jones
because I think he's he's on the downside of his career. Um.
Obviously there's Mike Well, There's there's Mike Evans. But it's
also what's his name, Mike from New Orleans, UM, who
struggled fast year, Mike Michael Thomas who had a disappointing
(36:03):
year last year, but has you know, had a hundred
twenty catches in the year. But if it's me, digs
to me as the best route runner. Vante Adams is
probably the best all around. And Tyreek Hill you actually
have to game plan for Tyreek Hill, actually have to
game plan for him and set your entire defense. He
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is a game changer with he's the fastest guy in
the NFL, and he's the fastest guy on the field
in the NFL as well. He's Those are my top
three as well. Doug Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, Buyer,
Would you like to add to that? Would you like
to throw in your DK Metcalf? Would you like to
not yet? Not yet? Um. I think that he has
(36:46):
the ability to to get there, and I think he
has the ability to get to the number one spot
for how freakish he is with his size and speed.
I do think that he still uh deals with the
drop set times, so maybe sometimes it's too easy for him,
but I do think that he has the ability to
get there. I actually like that Brandon Marshall mentioned Tyreek
(37:06):
Hill and what he does because I think I've even
said on this show that his just skills as a
wide receiver of something as simple as just making sure
you catch with your hands is something that Tyreek Hill
is exceptionally good at his He he has wide receiver skills.
You may just think he's a fast guy, but yeah,
I really like the Tyree Hill the You know, a
(37:26):
guy like Calvin Ridley in Atlanta could be uh there
at some point, but we'll have to see how they respond.
I just don't think that those those guys are ready.
You're right about Julio Jones, but Digs, Hopkins, Adams, and
Hill right now in the primes of their careers. I
think that those are the four that you'd have to
go with Gavin you want to throw any Bellson, I
(37:47):
feel like A. J. Brown got snubbed a little bit.
He might be my favorite deep threat in the league.
And also O'Dell. He was on a list I've seen
as well by Jalen Ramsey. He had him number two.
I think that's too high. But O'Dell when he's healthy,
it's hard to find a better threat out there now.
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He and he was in his first four years in
the league, or is good or better than anybody else's
first four years in the league at the exact same position.
So I don't I don't think that's a it's a
bad pick. I just I think that Odell Beckham benefited
so much with having Eli Manning as his quarterback, and
Eli does not get any of that credit. Eli didn't
care where he threw the ball. That's why I led
(38:30):
the league in interception. He would throw it. That's why
Adell could make those catches because you're like, why is
Eli throwing the ball in those places? I think he
he really benefited from having Eli Manning as his quarterback.
It's true. I was looking Keenyan Allen's numbers right now,
and he was actually down last year even with Justin Herbert.
But that for the same reason with and yeah, Allen
maybe should be put in that in that top four.
(38:52):
I mean he's amazing. He really is. You want to
talk about prime of your career, that that actually is
a really good good catch. Yeah, No, he's He's probably
the least like I still think people and Mike Williams
saying people freak out about because but he's it's I
think it's because he was so good in college and
he does make some unbelievably spectacular catches. Keenan Allen is
a better wide receiver, right, I mean he's the guy
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who if you want to first down, you go to
Keenan Allen, right, and that that's that's what you do.
It's it's also interesting we never consider any of the
slot guys, and and granted they're not as good as
slot guys now as there was when we had the
Welkers and the Edelman's and and some of those guys.
But those slot guys are really, really talented. A Cooper
(39:34):
Cup is a game changing player, whether it's inside or outside.
I wouldn't put him as the top three. All right,
let's let's let's get to this. Coming up next Doug
Otlip Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio, I can explain
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