November 11, 2024 • 18 mins
Today on The UnNamed Podcast, Joey Wheeler joins the guys and shares his experience as the Highlanders' Social Event Leader.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You got to do the whole good. Welcome along to
the Unnamed Podcast, Tuesday the twelfth, November twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Quick roll call Measure present Ruder fifteen for one to
twenty three, Jerry fifteen for one to twenty three, Joey
Wheeler here present, Here we go, mister Well's present.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, good mateks I forget that. It's good to be here.
Cup Day Boys, Cup and show day Cup and shows.
What do you do? You cut your downstairs and your
show to people. That's right, mate, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You've been doing it for years, been getting you into
trouble for years, but you continue to do it.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Why someone's got to do it, so may as well
be me. I mean, you've got to get him behind
one day a year, So this is the day that
I've decided to get him behind. Are you making love
once a year at the moment? Me? Yeah, I know
more than once a year. At least at least monthly.
You hitting at least well, at least at the least
(00:59):
budd makes me happy to hear. Actually, at least monthly.
What about with to Meshy, Meshy, she'll be listening morning
to she won't be listening can show week though. I mean,
you would have spend some time down there. You would
have made for you Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, I love the show.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Dressing up your cows and your your lambs and get
in your ribbons.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, but you know.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
We talked about it on the on the show Fellers
and there was a lot of techs about what you
do and the leader you know, a few primers what
sort of drinking games you play? Got me thinking, I reckon,
I wuld lean into the sex before sex. That would
sort of be my vibe, so at least un least
unless I was in the carry lounge, because obviously you
(01:51):
can't get on the Dulcets until.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You can bring your own. You can always bring your
own tough and a drink bottle.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Did you hear about that that they took the old
takeaway coffee caps away because some grubs were tipping out
their coffee and refilling it with the Dulcet and taking
it on the on the flight.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Wow. Yeah, I mean that's pretty you're pretty keen.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's a pretty low point in your life.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, you're pretty keen. It's like, come on, let's grab.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
The Is it tough to like zerra Wi where you
could pick up a bottle of Dulcet out of the
corel lounge fridge there and put it, put it in
the bag. You reckon, bring it, bring it home. Because
I've never had the Dulcet. You've never had the Doulcet,
never had the Dulcet.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Why not? You've been under the core a few I
wouldn't mind.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Seeing you doing like a you know, you used to
take the bottles to your hands, scrumpy hand.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Doulcet hands hands.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Do a session in the in the coral lounge of Dulcet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh, that'd be good. We were talking years ago about
doing a pub crawl, coral crawl where you go from
Coray Lounge to Coral Lounge. So you start off up
north and try Yeah, you do that, do every single
carylne You're gonna have a beer in each place.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We reached out to New Zealand. You might be surprised
to hear they we went super interested in that. We
still can't figure out why.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah not?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, it seems when you can rate the Coral ledge. Yeah,
even if it's just a regional, a regional crawl, you know,
just to the regional lounge, but you have to have
christ Church. That roof, yeah, spectacular. Have you got a
favorite Coral Louedge Yep? I do, actually yours My favorite
is christ Church. Plenty of space and you've got a
(03:28):
view of the of the runway, which I like.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Beautiful, beautiful perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, and particularly in the afternoon it gets beautiful afternoon
some the cory Lander. Yeah, yeah, I love the roof there.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
What about you, Joe, Yeah, I think either Chross Juge
or Wellington.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Similar Wellington.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
That that perspective looking over Lall Bay, lovely down the
cook straight. Yeah, reminds me of home, so close to home,
being a Marlboro lad. Yeah, MESHI ruder.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I can't think of.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I've only been into the aucklamand so.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And well only got into their. Sorry guys, us, we
took you and what you were in the You forced
your way into the Auckland one. I didn't. You were
rejected at the door with the and came with the
red thing.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Apparently I was I was too Apparently I was too
chetty for the lady at the counter.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We started chatting it. We did that classic thing whill
you turn into the coral and you thought you need
to sort of make chat with the people milk convention. Again,
it's it's not a social it's not a social bar. Although,
to be fair, if you go to Wellington, good place
to chat to politicians or politicians and Wellington, can you
run into Winnipee there? Once I have run into winnie
Pee there.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You would have corns over a single molt with you.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, surely, I'm loving that. But she started chatting away
to the to the people in the corn and they
sort of packed himself up with a with a beer
a couple of yeah smashed them back. So where are
you guys off to? Oh yeah sweet? Some like root chat.
Oh yeah, so down what's the weather light? Down there?
Are you? You're saying? How long you're saying down there for? Oh? Yeah? Yeah?
(05:03):
People just that most of the people in there just
want to get from A to b. They're there to
do business meshing. I thought I thought that they want
to be in there for a chat. No, No, okay,
most people were traveling domestically just want to get from
A to B. You must spend a lot of time
on planes at a.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Lot of time on planes, and Cora Lounge is one
of my favorite Coro lounge. It's not a Cora Loudge,
but it's a lounge around the world is in Tokyo.
And the reason being is they've got the machine. You
put the glass in into the beer machine, push a button,
chilks the beer glass the beer, then the strings it
up and does the froth and it is the perfect beer.
(05:41):
And there's nothing bit of leads than an airport beer
in wis. It's one of the great great beers, you know.
And and I think you can have a beer at
any time, right, no judgment. Great, and you've got to
have one.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I know that exact machine. Yeah, I know the machine
I've I've i myself and massively.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
United lounge. That's the one.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yes, the United Lounge that you've got to go into
in Tokyo. Isn't it this with like the Star Alliance one?
Yes and yes, And I think it's a it's an
Asahi machine, that particular machine I have. They love a
head on the Japanese love to pour.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You know why that is?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yes, it's meant to be like that because that releases
the gases correct and if you have it, always drink.
This is a good little tip for you MESHI actually
as you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Might be able to finish one boff.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Always drink a beer from a glass. You never drink
a beer from a bottle. I was running a plastic
cup over the weekend. That's all right. You just mean
like an open top thing yep. Yeah, So you release
the head that there, that that phone that you're seeing
at the top there. If you don't do that, all
of that gas stays inside of your guts and just
fills you up. You fill up with foam, and if
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you put food on it, it actually chops up into foam.
And that's how you get that bloated vibe. You must
be able to buy one of these machines. I mean,
there's got to be someone out there listening. That's guy.
I know.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
When I was at Suntory, they had a contraption that
used to you buy with your six pack of cans
and you'd screw it on to the can and pour
through whatever it was and it.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Gave you the perfect hid.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Wow. They love it in Japan.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, some sort of contraption that you just yeahs in
Japan they love they love a beer, although you got
to be careful. I was here with Beaver with Beaver Donald,
who can drink maybe more than any person I've ever
met my entire life. And he he was just on
the button. You know, they have the button and you
just push a button and basically the beers just keep coming.
(07:39):
And I I was going beer for beer with Beaver
and Scotty J. Stevens some terrible, terrible idea, A couple
of good drinkers here, and we ended up.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Scotty in his prime to pre running a ridiculous amount
of day.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
He was him and Beaver was setting a decent pace
and and Beaver was Beaver was saying, I don't want
to drink. There's too many of these beers, mate, you
don't want to drink too many of these busies draft
beers that no, no, God, they'll give you a terrible hangover.
Just kept pushing the button. No more and more kept arriving.
I just kept going. We ended up in a karaoke bar,
dressed up just in a shocking state. I think I
(08:17):
don't remember what happened at the end of the night,
went back to the hotel. That was the next day
that Matt talks about where he walked in into my
tiny little hotel room and that tiny little hotel beer
that you have in Tokyo. And I had my head
on my pnge with my tongue sticking out, Oh Jesus.
And I couldn't get any access to any paracetamol or anything,
and I was just going through the most splitting headache
(08:39):
and worst hangover I've ever had in my entire life.
I'm going to say, should listen to Beaver. I'm gonna
say with Beaver. I'm gonna guess twenty five to thirty
beers with Beaver of these drafts. Beaver fine, BEAVERA woke up,
straight back into it again, no problems at all, No hangover, Jesus,
Scotty j Stevenson, terrible hangover, me Gray eighteen hangover. What's
(09:01):
the worst hangover you had, Joe Wheeler?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh, good question, good question.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I mean like you've had a few. And I'll
put you on the spot here.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I remember one Queenstown trip actually day and the sun
summer's day down there. I think it was might have
been Ben Smith Staggeder. We did a Friday pub crawled
from Dunedin to Queenstown through the pig Root, all the
country pubs, drunk all the pus in the Otago region
(09:35):
next day. Very similar. That's splitting, which is unusual. But
I think due to the heat and the dehydration. That's
what got me not normally a big hangover guy, because yeah,
I haven't really slept or just you know, charged on. Yeah,
top up the system. Yeah that's the way to do it. Yeah,
(09:57):
that's definitely the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Another one, was it off he or on the podcast
you don't might be talking about this dangerous to get
into because you were talking about this when you were
playing the social schedule, And it was really interesting because
I never thought, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
We didn't talk about it on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Were able to talk about it like that.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So you guys had a bit of a social committee
going on, and then you were so organized because you'd
get the yeah you get.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
You get your schedule for the season or you know whatever.
It does quite early and you sit down with the
manager and you work out your social events and they're
always when you've got a longer turnaround.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So I think we were talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
It because obviously the All Blacks played on a Friday
night in Ireland, yes, Saturday morning our time, but their
next game isn't until Saturday, so they've got a long turnaround.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And as an experienced man, you identified that as it
would have.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Been for me as a social leader on Bang, we're
having a team social after that game, and we're letting.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
The dogs out. Yeah, when you say letting the dogs out,
letting the dogs out.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I would imagine I would imagine the scenario would have been,
and this is how I would have done it. Or
to said, right, boys post the sheds, a couple of
beers and the sheds.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Then we're.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Nine thirty in the team room, casual dress. Then we
have a wee mini court. So obviously probably what are
they on third week of their tour. I would always
start things off with everyone on their pins wank count
the tour. So basically what that involves is on your
(11:28):
pins and you start obviously zero.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You sit down when your number comes.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Up, and jeez, it is so good.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Like the crocers units.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Some of them, and you always you always have a roommate, right,
and you go when your roommates the last one setting,
you like, how have you had that many winks on? Yeah?
Normally that's how you wink count, and then you have
you know, there might be a few things a couple
of fines that guys might want to give, give out
a couple of rage vessels to the men of the
(11:57):
match for the day, that sort of thing. Acknowledge a
couple of gears is probably parents and family that had
joined the session as well count and then well that
would probably be invited en after the went caunt and
then sit down and then obviously the senior players will
sit down the rules for the night. You then go
probably to another establishment that I would imagine would be
a private establishment so the boys can let the deals
(12:19):
in and.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You have you've already organized this, haven't you.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Social you would have organized forward, And that's why I
was like Jesus in Ireland, you would have wanted a
nice little local slogger shut off with just a few
of the locals that you know, play the Irish flute
in the in the.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Spoons and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Just let the boys go yeah, yeah, really go yeah.
Well we're gonna be killing You've gotta be careful with
the go of those bars. That's where things generally go wrong.
I would have thought. I always thought it was always
behind closed doors. I thought that those sisty at the hotel.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, but they might have just said, you know, look,
we're going to long turn around. Trust the lads, We're
going to go out. That's the curfew, my two thirty whatever,
get back.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's usually when Sean sneaks back out again, come in,
sneak back out again. I mean it's okay, you're allowed
to go with the boys as long as you can
get up in the morning with the men.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yeah, exactly mate. We had an instance on one of
my we went to in the Highlanders when we won.
We played Restling Metro in Hong Kong the next year
pre season and we had a day off during the
week and we thought we're gonna we're going to go.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
We're going to give it a real go. Here went out.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
In Hong Kong. We had a curfew. Boys. No chance
with the Landers. It's either all go or nothing. There's
no gray with that team. You just got to be
all on and our fear to say no one made
the curfew wow and managed to Jamie knew that everyone
I missed it, but he didn't know who and how
many and far out when we got When we got back,
(13:53):
he was trying to dress everyone and everyone stayed strong.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No one gave.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Everyone stuck to one of the great moments of Team
Conrad around stick it to the coach. Yeah, well it
would have been to drop us all boys.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I imagine Jamie would have broken a few crefews in
his day. Oh yeah, cure.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
How good would it have been back in the nineties,
the eighties and nineties, especially just turning professional Regon that
was the sweet spot because you still had the amateur
mindset and you'd come through the amateur game and then
you're getting paid a shitload of money to play the
game and you're still training like amateurs.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Have you ever watched games from nineteen ninety eight, Yes,
they are. They It's the pinnacle in my opinion, because
also no regard for head injuries, no zero, Like you
were shaken off. You're expected to play on in those
situations because you were playing for money now, so it's like, well, yeah,
I mean, you're going to be putting your body on
(14:51):
the line. That's whole thing. Just the numbers to rucks
because you have to get numbers to rucks and most
blanket over the forge. Yeah, and you're just like people
were coming from from all angles because you didn't have
to come in from the hindmost feet. You didn't have
to go through the gate, just fly in. You just
had to get numbers and boy with the feet and
then just a little bit of tap dancing on my
back and it's full on.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
But how good was.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
That when you're a young fellow and you got rucked
and you came home and you check out the ruck mark.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Take it to school, and take it to school on Monday, beauty,
he has but one of your jobs as a lot,
that was your job.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And I chatted to Robin. Yeah, that's right after watching
that game. I spoke to Robin Brooke. Just about two
weeks later. I saw him at this function and I
kind of know him from around the place, and I said, geez,
you were just flying. You were flying in and just
over the top, lying all over it and you didn't
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get penalized for it in those days. And he goes,
that was my job. He said. Part of the thing
was that I just have to try and lie on
the board to try and slow it down. That was
just my job. And I said did you like doing that?
And he goes, I hated it, he said, I because
it used to hurt. Like Jerry, you were a lock,
wouldn't you. Yeah, there was no you need to find
(16:05):
me on the other side.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
What was the advice that your old man gave you?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Just keep your head down. But look, I can honestly
say I never got sped out the back of a rack.
I would make sure that I was always on the
on the right side there. I was not slowing the
ball down. I was not slowing the ball down.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Not that pretty face of yours. You're not getting You're
not getting a wound like Sam Kane.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
No, she's that same Kane when we were looking at
it as we were doing the show today.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That is a proper vicious you reckon. That was a
stud market, doesn't it split your that? Yeah? The other
concerning probably one of his own teammates.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
The other concerning thing I did notice for Sam Kane,
and I will pass this on to him when I
say him next is receding heavily, and you thought he
might they might have shaved that stitch. But still yeah, yeah,
we wanted he probably needs to get onto that pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, I think he wanted to advanced here.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
If Harriet Kane is listening to the podcast, which I'm
sure she is, look, is it a good friend of yours?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Is rol Dad?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
That has a he's a company that can help out.
I'm sure you'll do a sharp deal for semi.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Absolutely, would you know, so get a crop like yours, Jerry?
After that, Yeah, well, I mean it's a good lit.
That's a great lie. Well, I look, thanks, thanks, But
I mean I actually noticed the other day. It's it's
coming back. It's definitely coming back. It's coming back in
the corners. Here is a bit of a Darth Vata situation,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You're here like I just kind of low it onto
your head each morning, okay, helmet like a helmet, and
then you wake up bald and the helmet gets kind
of planted on the top of the head.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Walk out the front door. It's coming back. Let's quite
get those till. Oh thanks mate. I think you're gonna
you're gonna lose you here soon. Actually at your lit.
It is it on the way back? What's happening there
on the front lift? Pull it back right, it's not no,
you're right, you're right, No, you're right. Minds trying. I
just get obviously.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't know if you've heard this chet before, Joey,
but I message my scalp and shower every night.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And that's mean to help.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I give it a good sort of twenty second
message while I'm I'm pulsing my pelvic floor.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Just geez, tell you what, Joey, you are not losing it.
You've never lost a here in your life.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Very lucky, very lucky, good croppery here, Just Gray, I'm
gonna go white Gray.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I think it's a good luck the silver pho. He's
been looking hopefully. Yeah, it's a good fingers crossed.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I can only go up.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Who doesn't love? It's definitely not true. I keep looking man,
all right.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Anyway, Okay, we're going to have a went counter.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Joey last three day, been there, Joey's cheating because he's
saying in the hotel j locking up the drains Mesbatorium. Yeah,
it's been. He's been injurious fells. He's been a flood
on the fourth floor. You can see him counting and
give you a number two, especially away from home, start
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flowing alright,
You got to do the whole good. Welcome along to
the Unnamed Podcast, Tuesday the twelfth, November twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Quick roll call Measure present Ruder fifteen for one to
twenty three, Jerry fifteen for one to twenty three, Joey
Wheeler here present, Here we go, mister Well's present.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, good mateks I forget that. It's good to be here.
Cup Day Boys, Cup and show day Cup and shows.
What do you do? You cut your downstairs and your
show to people. That's right, mate, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You've been doing it for years, been getting you into
trouble for years, but you continue to do it.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Why someone's got to do it, so may as well
be me. I mean, you've got to get him behind
one day a year, So this is the day that
I've decided to get him behind. Are you making love
once a year at the moment? Me? Yeah, I know
more than once a year. At least at least monthly.
You hitting at least well, at least at the least
(00:59):
budd makes me happy to hear. Actually, at least monthly.
What about with to Meshy, Meshy, she'll be listening morning
to she won't be listening can show week though. I mean,
you would have spend some time down there. You would
have made for you Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, I love the show.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Dressing up your cows and your your lambs and get
in your ribbons.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, but you know.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
We talked about it on the on the show Fellers
and there was a lot of techs about what you
do and the leader you know, a few primers what
sort of drinking games you play? Got me thinking, I reckon,
I wuld lean into the sex before sex. That would
sort of be my vibe, so at least un least
unless I was in the carry lounge, because obviously you
(01:51):
can't get on the Dulcets until.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You can bring your own. You can always bring your
own tough and a drink bottle.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Did you hear about that that they took the old
takeaway coffee caps away because some grubs were tipping out
their coffee and refilling it with the Dulcet and taking
it on the on the flight.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Wow. Yeah, I mean that's pretty you're pretty keen.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's a pretty low point in your life.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, you're pretty keen. It's like, come on, let's grab.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
The Is it tough to like zerra Wi where you
could pick up a bottle of Dulcet out of the
corel lounge fridge there and put it, put it in
the bag. You reckon, bring it, bring it home. Because
I've never had the Dulcet. You've never had the Doulcet,
never had the Dulcet.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Why not? You've been under the core a few I
wouldn't mind.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Seeing you doing like a you know, you used to
take the bottles to your hands, scrumpy hand.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Doulcet hands hands.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Do a session in the in the coral lounge of Dulcet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh, that'd be good. We were talking years ago about
doing a pub crawl, coral crawl where you go from
Coray Lounge to Coral Lounge. So you start off up
north and try Yeah, you do that, do every single
carylne You're gonna have a beer in each place.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We reached out to New Zealand. You might be surprised
to hear they we went super interested in that. We
still can't figure out why.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah not?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, it seems when you can rate the Coral ledge. Yeah,
even if it's just a regional, a regional crawl, you know,
just to the regional lounge, but you have to have
christ Church. That roof, yeah, spectacular. Have you got a
favorite Coral Louedge Yep? I do, actually yours My favorite
is christ Church. Plenty of space and you've got a
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view of the of the runway, which I like.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Beautiful, beautiful perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, and particularly in the afternoon it gets beautiful afternoon
some the cory Lander. Yeah, yeah, I love the roof there.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
What about you, Joe, Yeah, I think either Chross Juge
or Wellington.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Similar Wellington.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
That that perspective looking over Lall Bay, lovely down the
cook straight. Yeah, reminds me of home, so close to home,
being a Marlboro lad. Yeah, MESHI ruder.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I can't think of.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I've only been into the aucklamand so.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And well only got into their. Sorry guys, us, we
took you and what you were in the You forced
your way into the Auckland one. I didn't. You were
rejected at the door with the and came with the
red thing.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Apparently I was I was too Apparently I was too
chetty for the lady at the counter.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We started chatting it. We did that classic thing whill
you turn into the coral and you thought you need
to sort of make chat with the people milk convention. Again,
it's it's not a social it's not a social bar. Although,
to be fair, if you go to Wellington, good place
to chat to politicians or politicians and Wellington, can you
run into Winnipee there? Once I have run into winnie
Pee there.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You would have corns over a single molt with you.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, surely, I'm loving that. But she started chatting away
to the to the people in the corn and they
sort of packed himself up with a with a beer
a couple of yeah smashed them back. So where are
you guys off to? Oh yeah sweet? Some like root chat.
Oh yeah, so down what's the weather light? Down there?
Are you? You're saying? How long you're saying down there for? Oh? Yeah? Yeah?
(05:03):
People just that most of the people in there just
want to get from A to b. They're there to
do business meshing. I thought I thought that they want
to be in there for a chat. No, No, okay,
most people were traveling domestically just want to get from
A to B. You must spend a lot of time
on planes at a.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Lot of time on planes, and Cora Lounge is one
of my favorite Coro lounge. It's not a Cora Loudge,
but it's a lounge around the world is in Tokyo.
And the reason being is they've got the machine. You
put the glass in into the beer machine, push a button,
chilks the beer glass the beer, then the strings it
up and does the froth and it is the perfect beer.
(05:41):
And there's nothing bit of leads than an airport beer
in wis. It's one of the great great beers, you know.
And and I think you can have a beer at
any time, right, no judgment. Great, and you've got to
have one.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I know that exact machine. Yeah, I know the machine
I've I've i myself and massively.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
United lounge. That's the one.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yes, the United Lounge that you've got to go into
in Tokyo. Isn't it this with like the Star Alliance one?
Yes and yes, And I think it's a it's an
Asahi machine, that particular machine I have. They love a
head on the Japanese love to pour.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You know why that is?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yes, it's meant to be like that because that releases
the gases correct and if you have it, always drink.
This is a good little tip for you MESHI actually
as you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Might be able to finish one boff.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Always drink a beer from a glass. You never drink
a beer from a bottle. I was running a plastic
cup over the weekend. That's all right. You just mean
like an open top thing yep. Yeah, So you release
the head that there, that that phone that you're seeing
at the top there. If you don't do that, all
of that gas stays inside of your guts and just
fills you up. You fill up with foam, and if
(06:52):
you put food on it, it actually chops up into foam.
And that's how you get that bloated vibe. You must
be able to buy one of these machines. I mean,
there's got to be someone out there listening. That's guy.
I know.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
When I was at Suntory, they had a contraption that
used to you buy with your six pack of cans
and you'd screw it on to the can and pour
through whatever it was and it.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Gave you the perfect hid.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Wow. They love it in Japan.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, some sort of contraption that you just yeahs in
Japan they love they love a beer, although you got
to be careful. I was here with Beaver with Beaver Donald,
who can drink maybe more than any person I've ever
met my entire life. And he he was just on
the button. You know, they have the button and you
just push a button and basically the beers just keep coming.
(07:39):
And I I was going beer for beer with Beaver
and Scotty J. Stevens some terrible, terrible idea, A couple
of good drinkers here, and we ended up.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Scotty in his prime to pre running a ridiculous amount
of day.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
He was him and Beaver was setting a decent pace
and and Beaver was Beaver was saying, I don't want
to drink. There's too many of these beers, mate, you
don't want to drink too many of these busies draft
beers that no, no, God, they'll give you a terrible hangover.
Just kept pushing the button. No more and more kept arriving.
I just kept going. We ended up in a karaoke bar,
dressed up just in a shocking state. I think I
(08:17):
don't remember what happened at the end of the night,
went back to the hotel. That was the next day
that Matt talks about where he walked in into my
tiny little hotel room and that tiny little hotel beer
that you have in Tokyo. And I had my head
on my pnge with my tongue sticking out, Oh Jesus.
And I couldn't get any access to any paracetamol or anything,
and I was just going through the most splitting headache
(08:39):
and worst hangover I've ever had in my entire life.
I'm going to say, should listen to Beaver. I'm gonna
say with Beaver. I'm gonna guess twenty five to thirty
beers with Beaver of these drafts. Beaver fine, BEAVERA woke up,
straight back into it again, no problems at all, No hangover, Jesus,
Scotty j Stevenson, terrible hangover, me Gray eighteen hangover. What's
(09:01):
the worst hangover you had, Joe Wheeler?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh, good question, good question.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I mean like you've had a few. And I'll
put you on the spot here.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I remember one Queenstown trip actually day and the sun
summer's day down there. I think it was might have
been Ben Smith Staggeder. We did a Friday pub crawled
from Dunedin to Queenstown through the pig Root, all the
country pubs, drunk all the pus in the Otago region
(09:35):
next day. Very similar. That's splitting, which is unusual. But
I think due to the heat and the dehydration. That's
what got me not normally a big hangover guy, because yeah,
I haven't really slept or just you know, charged on. Yeah,
top up the system. Yeah that's the way to do it. Yeah,
(09:57):
that's definitely the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Another one, was it off he or on the podcast
you don't might be talking about this dangerous to get
into because you were talking about this when you were
playing the social schedule, And it was really interesting because
I never thought, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
We didn't talk about it on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Were able to talk about it like that.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So you guys had a bit of a social committee
going on, and then you were so organized because you'd
get the yeah you get.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
You get your schedule for the season or you know whatever.
It does quite early and you sit down with the
manager and you work out your social events and they're
always when you've got a longer turnaround.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So I think we were talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
It because obviously the All Blacks played on a Friday
night in Ireland, yes, Saturday morning our time, but their
next game isn't until Saturday, so they've got a long turnaround.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And as an experienced man, you identified that as it
would have.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Been for me as a social leader on Bang, we're
having a team social after that game, and we're letting.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
The dogs out. Yeah, when you say letting the dogs out,
letting the dogs out.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I would imagine I would imagine the scenario would have been,
and this is how I would have done it. Or
to said, right, boys post the sheds, a couple of
beers and the sheds.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Then we're.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Nine thirty in the team room, casual dress. Then we
have a wee mini court. So obviously probably what are
they on third week of their tour. I would always
start things off with everyone on their pins wank count
the tour. So basically what that involves is on your
(11:28):
pins and you start obviously zero.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You sit down when your number comes.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Up, and jeez, it is so good.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Like the crocers units.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Some of them, and you always you always have a roommate, right,
and you go when your roommates the last one setting,
you like, how have you had that many winks on? Yeah?
Normally that's how you wink count, and then you have
you know, there might be a few things a couple
of fines that guys might want to give, give out
a couple of rage vessels to the men of the
(11:57):
match for the day, that sort of thing. Acknowledge a
couple of gears is probably parents and family that had
joined the session as well count and then well that
would probably be invited en after the went caunt and
then sit down and then obviously the senior players will
sit down the rules for the night. You then go
probably to another establishment that I would imagine would be
a private establishment so the boys can let the deals
(12:19):
in and.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You have you've already organized this, haven't you.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Social you would have organized forward, And that's why I
was like Jesus in Ireland, you would have wanted a
nice little local slogger shut off with just a few
of the locals that you know, play the Irish flute
in the in the.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Spoons and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Just let the boys go yeah, yeah, really go yeah.
Well we're gonna be killing You've gotta be careful with
the go of those bars. That's where things generally go wrong.
I would have thought. I always thought it was always
behind closed doors. I thought that those sisty at the hotel.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, but they might have just said, you know, look,
we're going to long turn around. Trust the lads, We're
going to go out. That's the curfew, my two thirty whatever,
get back.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's usually when Sean sneaks back out again, come in,
sneak back out again. I mean it's okay, you're allowed
to go with the boys as long as you can
get up in the morning with the men.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yeah, exactly mate. We had an instance on one of
my we went to in the Highlanders when we won.
We played Restling Metro in Hong Kong the next year
pre season and we had a day off during the
week and we thought we're gonna we're going to go.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
We're going to give it a real go. Here went out.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
In Hong Kong. We had a curfew. Boys. No chance
with the Landers. It's either all go or nothing. There's
no gray with that team. You just got to be
all on and our fear to say no one made
the curfew wow and managed to Jamie knew that everyone
I missed it, but he didn't know who and how
many and far out when we got When we got back,
(13:53):
he was trying to dress everyone and everyone stayed strong.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No one gave.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Everyone stuck to one of the great moments of Team
Conrad around stick it to the coach. Yeah, well it
would have been to drop us all boys.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I imagine Jamie would have broken a few crefews in
his day. Oh yeah, cure.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
How good would it have been back in the nineties,
the eighties and nineties, especially just turning professional Regon that
was the sweet spot because you still had the amateur
mindset and you'd come through the amateur game and then
you're getting paid a shitload of money to play the
game and you're still training like amateurs.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Have you ever watched games from nineteen ninety eight, Yes,
they are. They It's the pinnacle in my opinion, because
also no regard for head injuries, no zero, Like you
were shaken off. You're expected to play on in those
situations because you were playing for money now, so it's like, well, yeah,
I mean, you're going to be putting your body on
(14:51):
the line. That's whole thing. Just the numbers to rucks
because you have to get numbers to rucks and most
blanket over the forge. Yeah, and you're just like people
were coming from from all angles because you didn't have
to come in from the hindmost feet. You didn't have
to go through the gate, just fly in. You just
had to get numbers and boy with the feet and
then just a little bit of tap dancing on my
back and it's full on.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
But how good was.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
That when you're a young fellow and you got rucked
and you came home and you check out the ruck mark.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Take it to school, and take it to school on Monday, beauty,
he has but one of your jobs as a lot,
that was your job.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And I chatted to Robin. Yeah, that's right after watching
that game. I spoke to Robin Brooke. Just about two
weeks later. I saw him at this function and I
kind of know him from around the place, and I said, geez,
you were just flying. You were flying in and just
over the top, lying all over it and you didn't
(15:44):
get penalized for it in those days. And he goes,
that was my job. He said. Part of the thing
was that I just have to try and lie on
the board to try and slow it down. That was
just my job. And I said did you like doing that?
And he goes, I hated it, he said, I because
it used to hurt. Like Jerry, you were a lock,
wouldn't you. Yeah, there was no you need to find
(16:05):
me on the other side.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
What was the advice that your old man gave you?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Just keep your head down. But look, I can honestly
say I never got sped out the back of a rack.
I would make sure that I was always on the
on the right side there. I was not slowing the
ball down. I was not slowing the ball down.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Not that pretty face of yours. You're not getting You're
not getting a wound like Sam Kane.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
No, she's that same Kane when we were looking at
it as we were doing the show today.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That is a proper vicious you reckon. That was a
stud market, doesn't it split your that? Yeah? The other
concerning probably one of his own teammates.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
The other concerning thing I did notice for Sam Kane,
and I will pass this on to him when I
say him next is receding heavily, and you thought he
might they might have shaved that stitch. But still yeah, yeah,
we wanted he probably needs to get onto that pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, I think he wanted to advanced here.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
If Harriet Kane is listening to the podcast, which I'm
sure she is, look, is it a good friend of yours?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Is rol Dad?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
That has a he's a company that can help out.
I'm sure you'll do a sharp deal for semi.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Absolutely, would you know, so get a crop like yours, Jerry?
After that, Yeah, well, I mean it's a good lit.
That's a great lie. Well, I look, thanks, thanks, But
I mean I actually noticed the other day. It's it's
coming back. It's definitely coming back. It's coming back in
the corners. Here is a bit of a Darth Vata situation,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You're here like I just kind of low it onto
your head each morning, okay, helmet like a helmet, and
then you wake up bald and the helmet gets kind
of planted on the top of the head.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Walk out the front door. It's coming back. Let's quite
get those till. Oh thanks mate. I think you're gonna
you're gonna lose you here soon. Actually at your lit.
It is it on the way back? What's happening there
on the front lift? Pull it back right, it's not no,
you're right, you're right, No, you're right. Minds trying. I
just get obviously.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't know if you've heard this chet before, Joey,
but I message my scalp and shower every night.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And that's mean to help.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I give it a good sort of twenty second
message while I'm I'm pulsing my pelvic floor.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Just geez, tell you what, Joey, you are not losing it.
You've never lost a here in your life.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Very lucky, very lucky, good croppery here, Just Gray, I'm
gonna go white Gray.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I think it's a good luck the silver pho. He's
been looking hopefully. Yeah, it's a good fingers crossed.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I can only go up.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Who doesn't love? It's definitely not true. I keep looking man,
all right.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Anyway, Okay, we're going to have a went counter.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Joey last three day, been there, Joey's cheating because he's
saying in the hotel j locking up the drains Mesbatorium. Yeah,
it's been. He's been injurious fells. He's been a flood
on the fourth floor. You can see him counting and
give you a number two, especially away from home, start
(18:54):
flowing alright,
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