November 13, 2024 • 28 mins
Today on The UnNamed Podcast, Morgan Penn joins the fellas, and they chat with a bloke that was involved in a 991kg Meth drug bust in the middle of the pacific ocean...
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Ah, yeah, Chris good in the sack?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Baily, Chris Martin? What good on the sack?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
How do we know?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Morgan pen Welcome to the podcast The Unnamed Podcast. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How do we know that Chris Martin's good in the sack?
We can tell by the way he moves. Oh, we
can tell by the way he dances. We can tell
by his gratitude for the earth.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh yeah, I've done something earth humping in my time.
I feel that what.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Does earth humping look like? Well not, actually, what does
it look like? I'm not actually worried about this, but
what is earth humping?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's having deep reverence for mother Earth and getting down
there and showing that gratitude with your body.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Is that it all similar to like those couples that
enjoyed making love in the woods more so than asking
for a friend Echo sexuals.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Okay, right, it's kind of the same vein sexuals.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So you went to Colboy last night? Wells, yeah, I
didn't do any I didn't make love. Okay, that was
that's what you're asking. No, no, no, I wasn't asking that.
I was asking if you had to cold Play last night?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I did.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I went to Coldplay last night, and you didn't make
it that but I didn't make love. No, it would
have been weird if you did. Yeah, he coldplaying with
my daughter, so that would have been highly un irregular.
And how does she go in a wing woman situation?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Your daughter?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And she gave a woman woman such as a woman,
oh wing woman. Yeah, she was a good she was
a good wing woman.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, it was good. Actually, was she helping you out?
This is my dad. You know, i'ms at home for
the night kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's not a sort of a relationship mine with your
parents and really kids.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
You know, I just thought I imagine Michigan doing quite
well in that. You know, you know she she's a
good speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, she knows.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
She wasn't sort of trying to hook me up with
anyone else, which is interesting. She was we were just
sort of watching the music and dancing. She was doing
a bit of singing. Oh right this, Yeah it was nice. Actually,
you know she's fifteen, she's fourteen, fifteen, she's reasonably you know,
you're self conscious.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
At that age.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, there was a woman who was dancing down in
front of us. So it was a granny. She would
have been in a sixties maybe seventies. It was really
vigorously getting into it, having a bloody great time. And
it's always interesting to see the difference between the perspective
of a fourteen to fifteen year old girl and then
a or boy and a forty seven year old man.
(02:20):
Because I looked at that woman, I thought, good on
you having a great time. My daughter was like, how embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Look at that woman, Oh, but you've lost all funks
by that time.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Exactly exactly, And I remember probably looking at them and thinking, oh,
I'm feeling sorry for a woman like that, thinking oh God,
look at you. Everyone's thinking that you're making a fool
of yourself. And now I think, good on you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why wouldn't you move to the.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Music feeling herself.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, she's getting a value for money.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And if you were, let's say, in your seventies, and
you were one of those people that had the prescription
meds and you had them laid out in that little
lunch boxes that you have every day, and you were
going to a Coldplay concert, would you not be like,
might have a couple of days here and just see
where it takes me.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And maybe that's it took it? Okay? To really lose
herself in the music with Chris Madden. She was, she was,
she was really into it. That's awesome, she was really
does she deal with anyone? Seemed like nobody really wanted
to own her.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, nobody was taking ownership of it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh yeah, I've seen you like that actually, and then
that type of state, you know, like we've had the
clubs a couple of times before, Jerry, and you do
have to separate yourself from people that are you know,
a little.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Bit too me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, you need to leave them alone.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Oh, you should see it like a three meta radius
at least for Jerry on the dance floor, once it
gets past the point of you know, when you start
falling up stairs, Jerry, that's when I start.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh, I think I know the situation you're talking about it. Yeah,
you have to stay well clear of that sometimes. She like,
sometimes you just get a little bit loose on it. Yeah,
and that's just that's just being a human. I think
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I just wanted to say that, you know, maybe you
have more in common with this you know, Greennie, than
you thought.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh I do.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think I've got more in common with the Grannie
than I do with my daughter in that regard. Yeah,
I'm more I'm more leaning to the grannie guy.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
You like to, you like to because I know you're
the type of dude that will also be looking at
her going I want to how you know what kind
of time she's having?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And she having a great time? Does she?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
She was having such a good time? She was, she
was loving it, and she she was loving interesting songs too,
like she was.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
She was.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
She knew every word to every Cobler song that Chris
Martin was singing. She was a super fan. When did
Coldplay start cranking up? Were they nineties?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So she would have been late nineties, Yeah, early two thousands.
She would have been in her what like fifties? Oh yeah,
do you say two thousand? Would you say two thousand?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'm going to say say too, I'm going to say
two thousand for Yellow?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Was it the Big One? Was it the first one? Yellow?
Big One? Was Fixed You? The same album? Or that's
about the third and I think Fix You.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Was Yellow Parachutes? Yeah, okay, two thousand. I reckon this
will be interesting. Actually, Okay, here we go, and what's.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
The answer to this. Understand that we've got a big
podcast today. I want to say two thousand. Anyone else
wanted to put a date on it? Yeah, two thousand. Oh,
you're probably two thousand on it. Morgan, I'm with you
two thousand as well. This is fun. We're all on
the same team. Ruder. Yeah, I'm going to go probably.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I feel like, oh, I feel like I'm going to
say something like late June two thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah. Oh, look, twenty sixth of June two thousand is
too nice. Two thousand.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
What's the second single? Shiver was their first single, Shiver Wow,
didn't go as well as Yellow, But there you go?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Is Yellow named after the Yellow Pages? I heard that
rumor once, Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Is it? Yeah? You're right.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He was doing an ill young impression, Chris Martin behind
a piano and he was looking for a word that went,
and he looked up and his Yellow Pages there, and
he just us yellow. So the song's not about anything
in particular, but you got this spot on weird.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, that's weird, well done. It's one of the happens Chris.
See this is the thing with Chris. Chris is Chris
as he's a universal being? Is it one of the universe?
Is feeling it?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think you're also one of those types of people, Morgan, I.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Do get in on the feelings, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Chris whatever? Who Oh, I think you and Chris have
got a lot in common. Yeah, I think you do.
And there's a there's a vibe.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, how do I get to him?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Good question? Let me figure this out. Sure we can get.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Into this, you know though, surely if have you got
like a few thousand dollars lying around?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sure, I wonder if you could.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I wonder if you could buy a meet and greet
or off a side of stage, your front front row experience,
and just get right out there and he might see
that you're his person.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
He might see that also, and Chris get on that,
you get on super well, you get on super well.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I think that you've put it out into the ether
as well as I'm always annoyingly surprised about how you
know now that you've set it behind a microphone, you
never even know. And you've got to do a radio
show tomorrow. So maybe we maybe were trying to try
and track down Chris is a good friend of mine. Actually,
so we'll see you a bit sorted.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Can we just double chick you don't want took up
with Chris Martin form a New Zealand cricket fast bowler,
another good option though.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No deal. Oh, I don't know. What does he look like?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
He's fifty and I'll show he rocks a head band.
It's not without mirrors, all right. You wouldn't, Jerry, if
you climbed in, you would do it from out.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Or you wis Martin and thirty three Test wickets. If
you climbed on your window at night, would you check
him out?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean I yeah, I probably would. I probably would
give him the show on the door. It shore young
Christmas and now he runs a four square.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I like older Chris Martin and I also like chocolate
fish from four squares, So I could do that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You can make that work. We go, we go.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, he's a he's a good guy. He certainly knows
how to bowl a long spell.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
He can.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh, he's got long game.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And I'm very very wind for the head band. Look
for a while in the late two thousand, it's a
bit fetal with the head band. It's a bit feta. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The the face is small, but the head is the
dime is large.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Happens the best of us. What you've got a big
have you. Well, I don't know. You don't big dome.
Your face is not small. I was talking about, you know,
a big knob, shaft or big. You're one of those
guys with a skinny shaft and a big knob, Like.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I feel like now we've repeated it, it's just a
little bit too much.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
The shaft is quite skinny, but the knobs what I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I wouldn't. I would imagine that you would have a
big knob.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Actually called a meshroom, Yeah, a.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Little bit of a it's a bit of a mushroom. Yeah. Anyway,
I understand that's one of the that's not a good look.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Now we're going to take a break because we're going
to stop talking about my mushroom.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's what you can call you know.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And I understand, Morgan, You've got a bit of a
story this year in regards to what we got synetics
from Ruder last night, Dury and I. And it was
about an exciting idea that you might have had a
text from a longtime friend.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, really knocked my socks off, So I thought share
what I received.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh well, okay for to that next excuse me, Welcome back,
Morgan pen You've got a text from a friend recently
and it knocked your socks off. I can just imagine
(09:30):
those socks flying off your feet.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Lying there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I'm thinking of you lying nude on a bier cold yeah,
now flow off.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I would have felt super natural that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I'd imagine It's taken quite a lot to knock your
socks off, Morgan.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And I mean that was, you know, in a good way.
So what does Tick say?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was, Hey, Morgs, how have you been? And I thought, well,
this is weird, Like it's been like five years since
I've heard from this dude. I went to a Catholic
college with him.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I recognized the number.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, I recognized the number. And I was like, I'm
all good, dude, like, how are you? And it's like, oh, yeah,
well my mental health is getting better. But you know,
it's been a tough time. And but I've just gotten out.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Sorry, sorry, you've just gotten out. Yeah. And I was like,
of a relationship or something like that. Do you think
that's what I thought?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I thought, he's obviously escaped something like that's been a
really detrimental, you know, place for him. Relationship, maybe a
rehab out of the closet or something like that, and
I did. I had no idea, and I said, come
out of weir and he said, Morgs google my full name,
which I did to a page, a Google page full
(10:49):
of news stories that he had been caught up in
something pretty hardcore. And I was shot. I was really shot.
And I just thought, like, I've gone into conversation with
him about it, and I said, well, you always were
a wild brumby. You know, I'm not surprised, yeah, in
one respect, but I've been watching his journey. He's been
(11:11):
out now for four weeks of jail, so you'd.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Say, I can see why now he'd say his mental
health is better, yes, because you know it does it?
It probably hits a low point in jail, I'd say,
And now he's out, and that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Why did he go to jail?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
He got caught with half a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Worth of myth, A billion dollars five hundred million dollars
worth of myth.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm not good with math, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's a lot. Yeah, Like how heavy is that? That's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's like them nearly a ton. There must be nine
hundred odd, nearly a thousand kilograms of myth. So he's
had a bit of a shit of the you'd have
to say, and how did he end up getting caught
with that much myth?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I don't know. I don't know. And that's why I
thought we could talk to him. Oh, because I've been
watching him now coming out sharing things on social and
he's he's trying to empower people, talking about addictions and
things like this. And I mean the story's wild, like
if you you know, look it up, it's unreal. But
(12:16):
he Yeah, he's willing to talk to us.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
The headline is how a mysterious drug kingpin called the
Principal frightened two yoddies into accepting nine hundred and ninety
one kgs of Mexican myth that answered that question worth
half a billion dollars, with the pair fearing the mammoth
amount of myth that they had would sink their boat, right,
(12:39):
so they sailed across the tasmum M, well crap.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I mean this is amazing. How have I missed this story?
I mean, so, is he actually giving us like a
number to cool top stuff?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, he's he's happy to have have a We yarned
to us.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well, do you think that we really should we should
call them today or do you think we should call
them tomorrow after we're up on the story.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do you think is better? Morgan?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think I think you've got natural curiosities.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I think.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He's a real open book.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Okay, cool, sweet, have I got a I do have
a number here and see that there just before we
met the waters and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Can we mention his name?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, not his last name and not where he's sort
of from Mark.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He's happy to be Mark.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
The only no goes on is that he just doesn't
want to answer questions about like who he was like
linked to. Obviously the headline new seat is totally fine,
but like know who put him in there? But yeah,
but he's talk about everything else, everything else.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I think the start of that story sounds and mate,
I'm been trued to see how he's managed to get anyway. Okay,
should give him a call and we'll see how this
goes though.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, super interesting, who too was in.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Prison four and a half years and he managed to
get like that was meant to be like at least
another ten more. He refused to talk, which he doesn't
want to talk about what actually happened in the courtroom
but he could have been in there for he just
got labeled as like a late dickhand that didn't know.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Okay, okay, right right, there we go. It's a no
call idea that will come through on So. Oh that
doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Does it doesn't? Here we go, Here we go. That
sounds better, loved Mark, Jeremy Wells. How are you?
Speaker 8 (14:32):
Yeah? Could mate? Good?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Hello, Darling, Sorry, we're late, you're.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Right, you're right now? Just at work.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, that's that's Morgan obviously, you know Morgan. Yeah, and
this is mash over here.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
How are you nice? Meant your mate?
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Yeah? Good Matte? How are you?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Good bro?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And just whack another name in the mix, his executive
producer Ruder.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Morning, mate, how are you?
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yeah, that's very good.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
How are you mate?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You've been you've been out of of prison for how
many weeks?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Three and a half away? Yeah, coming out four weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
I look pretty good.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yeah, definitely better than being in there.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's good.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
It's a big adjustment as a way for that's a
bitter part of half a decade.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
But yeah, it's good Man now.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Morgan, it's MESHI here, sorry, mate, Morgan told us about
your story for the first time this morning, mate, and
I was not very familiar with it. And Welles, you
weren't super familiar with it either, were you. So Mark,
if you wouldn't mind, mate, can you kind of just
tell us what happened?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Cool?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
So look, basically, I just look, I love working on boats,
and I've worked on boats my whole life, but a
fishing boats or sailing yachts and things like that. And
I just I got myself tangled up with a bad
drug addiction and things like that, and so I own
some money to some people, and I got approached about
basically sailing a boat, and yeah, lo and behold on
(15:59):
that boat there happened to be a fear bit of
mishand so holy smoked.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So for those of us that aren't, I've been lucky
enough to not have any kind of addiction to substance,
and especially with infiamine.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Just at the top of that, how did that work?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
So you obviously became addicted if you don't mind my asking, Mark,
And at any point you can tell us to shut up
and not answer a question, by the way, yea, but
how does it? How do you get from getting into
myth infhitamine too, being in quite a fercious amount of debt,
because this is something that we hear a lot about
in this country.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Look, I was never like when you think about drug addiction, right,
you think about what I used to think about too
before I was probably I don't know, and lots of
trouble with my with myself. I you know, like I
got good jobs. I still managed to present well and
I managed to you know, like get around pretty well.
Like and unless you really knew me, you probably didn't
(16:52):
know that I did have those sort of addiction problems
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And when we're talking addiction, probably just to be clear, Mark,
are we talking with them philamine?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Are we talking talking with heroin? Okay? Right?
Speaker 8 (17:05):
A lot?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Really Yeah, it didn't really matter. Yeah, sort of what
they call a multi user.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And were you in Australia or in New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
I was in Australia.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I spend a bit of time in the Middle East
and all the time in Southeast Asia.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, Yeah, got true.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And so there you were, You're grappling with some addiction issues,
you had a little bit of you had some dead obviously,
and then someone said to you, would you like to
sail a boat from one place to another?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Pretty much, mate, Yeah, yeah, that was that was something
short of.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
It, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
So I didn't really go into it with my eyes open,
you know, like I was sort of a bit naive
and things like that probably tricked into a little bit.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
But yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
At what point did you realize that you're the boat
that you were sailing had nine hundred and ninety one
color grams of myth and famine.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
So yeah, when when it got passed to us out
in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Oh my gosh, yeah, like without there was another boat,
you see, and we met up with me past the jugs,
and so we at that point I realized, at call here,
it's a bit it's a bit late at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right, Yeah. And where were you exactly in the Pacific Ocean?
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I think we were miles out.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
We were way outs off the coast of Australia, and
then we started.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
To hit our way in.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, okay, so you were you were living in Australia.
You sailed out to meet the boat, you got the shipment,
and then you were going to sail back and that
was the.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Idea Australia and yeah, a little bit of life apparently.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well yeah, and and was there was how much money
were you were you going to make out of us?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I don't really know. Yeah, look it was yeah enough
to get me out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think, yeah, yeah, that's heaps of me.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Things, that's a lot of me and sit them in right,
like I couldn't really say them at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, because Mark, when I was looking at one of
the news stories and I there were pictures of the myth,
like just piles and piles of it, and it looked
like it had to like put it in every nook
and cranny of that boat.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
The boat was pretty loaded up, like we were, and
we took that. We took like a bit of a
beating out there too, so we took a couple of
big sort of storms sort of sustained made as swells
and stuff like that. So yeah, it was certainly different experience.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Could that have kept sized like it? Was it actually dangerous?
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:32):
I think it was pretty dangerous. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Probably you wouldn't want to have lost your keel because
you're on You're on a sailboat.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Weren't you.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, it would.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Have taken ages to peck all of that stuff on board.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
Yeah, I know, we chalked it on pretty quick. We
weren't working around. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What's it like when you're out on the high seas
knowing what you're carrying? Like, are you scared?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah totally yeah, but I
think you're just running on adrenaline, sort of just trying
to put the left foot in front of the right
foot and running on it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, not eating much.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
How many how many days were it was the voyage
going to be did you think?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Look, I didn't really know at the beginning, but it
ended up being about so we're out there for about
six weeks or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What, yeah, you must have been miles away?
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Was miles away?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
It was just the sort of the route we had
to take.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Ye oh, got chat Okay, you just had to had
to spend a bit of time out there just to
make sure that you didn't go straight out there and
then straight back again.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
What happened in the moment when you realized the pole
pole were on the water after.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
You happened really quickly, right, So, so it was the
sort of four thirty in the morning, and I was
sitting up on the top of the BN and I
turned around and I just heard it. It was the
sound of the ways slapping against the boat behind that,
the boat that they had like a little rib that
they'd snuck up on us on. And so we're then
thirty seconds of seeing them, they were on our boat
(21:12):
and jumped onto off of us.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
And yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
How far off the coast were you at that stage?
Speaker 8 (21:17):
Fifty miles off Newcastle?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh okay, fifty miles Oh yeah, okay, so that's one
hundred k's that's that's a that's.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Not explause it's not that pretty far off because it's
not that far.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, we could see the lights, you know, for the
first time in a long time. So and then it
all went bad.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What time of the year was it, April?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh yeah, okay, so you're there for six weeks, right, so, ah, well,
you can get some bloody big storms in the tessmun
during that period. Obviously you can't look at the weather
report for six weeks because you know you but you can.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Get some storms on six weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yeah, we did, and we did, and we got smashed
up pretty bad. Like the boat was cracked and we
lost our front sale. We lost that all over, So
we're definitely taking.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
A bit of a beating.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
So, Mark, when these police jump on your boat at
four thirty in the morning, do you know if they
knew what was on board or do you think they
just suspected.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
What was on board? They didn't know?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
They did, they suspected, and they certainly didn't know the amount,
like they were sort of looking for one or two
hundred maybe, Yeah, and that's what they were talking about
until it all got counted up.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
And how relieved were you Mark when the rest of
the will went into lockdown for about two years afterwards?
When once you were unfortunate enough to be in jail
as well, mate, because that must be here, must be
thinking it was a small part of you at all
thinking like, oh man, this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Is so strange.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
If you're going to take a time in your life
to go to prison, probably do it when anyone else
is lockdown. Yeah, the fone I wasn't as bad, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And how are you doing anyway?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So after what sounds like an incredible kind of four
and a half years in jail, was that right?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Four and a half in jail.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, I was very very fortunate, like because I went
into my eyes shut and I had some good suppaus
for my family. Yeah, you know, I managed to get.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
A really really good result. So yeah, I was extremely lucky,
really blessed there.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
So you know, like at the start of it, I
thought I won't be seeing the light of day again.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
I thought I was gone.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, Well, what was the conversation with the guys who
came on board your boat? Because like it's it's pretty
obvious that you know, you've got the men fetamine on
the boat. You can't kind of say, oh, I didn't
know how the hell they got there, you know.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, well I would have known.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You would have known. It's like, you can't run away.
You can't run away in that situation.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
No you can't.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah, no, no, you just had to sit there and
own your shirt and yeah, put your hand up for
your mistake. And yeah, but the judge looked at it
and he said, well, look, you know just got had
no prior knowledge to it.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I was just probably a bit of a drunken sailor. Really, yeah,
got pulled into it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
What a story mate?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Tell hey, Mark, one other question you know when you
described when you were out in the Pacific and it's
starting to dawn on you what you're being asked to
do to take these drugs to Australia. Yeah, was there
and this might sound like a stupid question, was there
any part of you that was like I'm just going
to say no? And what were and you know the
(24:18):
repercussions are that obvious that what they just no?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
No, no, No, It wasn't no.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
We were like once you make that decision, you know,
made that cool?
Speaker 8 (24:30):
We had to go through it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I guess I mean I haven't done it.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Sorry, make I've committed at that point.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I've haven't done a lot of you know, drugs
smuggling in my time. I've got to be honest. But
how but how does it work? Mark?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
In terms of is the idea if you're trying to
get into a country, was you know, illegal substances? Is
it just kind of luck when it comes to both
because we hear all the time in terms of like,
you know, interceptions that have happened on our you know,
especially in Tronger.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
At the moment, I think there's a lot of it
going on. Well, there must be a lot of it.
That gets through. Yeah, that's my.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Kind of U. More that gets through than doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, that's percent of it must get through.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
And you know, so you think that I was probably
in the unlucky to send.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah, and I think the judge even said that to
us I'm singing day, said you've rather the Dice Boys
and lost?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah wow that far off? Wow. Well there you go, mate,
that is something made.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, good luck with everything now that you're out, and
and good luck with the addiction issues and stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
And yeah, I know jail saved me life, so definitely
on the up and up now, mate, mate.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Well it makes you glad to hear that, because yeah,
I can imagine four and a half. I suppose it's
for sobriety, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Yeah, it is like you know, I got clean inside,
like I wasn't cleaning in jail for the sispit. You know,
you obviously look in prison, but you know like after
getting the result I got, knowing that I get out,
and I sort of look at it as a bit
of a seeking change of life really, so you know, yeah,
instead of doing some dumb stuff, I'll try and do
some smart things now and get on with my life.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And I've seen you sharing on you know, social media,
you sharing about your health journey and supportive like of
other people to reach out to you even if they're struggling.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
So I really right, I think that's all we can
do is just to help each other. You know, like
it's tough out there at the moment. You know, everyone's
got the story. Everyone goes to stuff, right and and
we've got to be there for our mates.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
The article about the story that's in the Daily Mail,
the Australian newspaper, and it's got some very candid photos
of you guys basically being arrested by the police. Gee,
it looks like you're just like, oh, well, gigs up
and then to see all these photos then just go
up online is just pretty crazy.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it was right.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
So that's I sort of thought about it, right, Like
it's already over the internet, so I'm off just the
front owner, and.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
Yeah, learn from it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I get how just one more thing, So I've just
seen a shot of the of the police boat telling
you under the Sydney Harbor Brodge. Yeah, a lot of
just one hundred one hundred k's off the coast of
newscastle takes a while to tow a boat one hundred
k's How was that?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
That was horrible?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Right for you?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
That was?
Speaker 8 (27:12):
That was brutal.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
So we were just sat because it was COVID as well,
so they just set us at the very back of
the police boat, handcuffs, put us on the ground. Well,
they all danced around us, celebrating and having breakfast and
bacon and eggs. And we didn't eating for ages either,
like we ran a food so we were sitting on
the gown, just got a bit of water in a
fucking soggy biscuit.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
Excuse me.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Yeah, it was brutal, Yeah, watching watching the police celebrated
that like you know what, you're sitting in the back.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The worst moment of your life.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, yeah, the best moment of Yeah, Mark, Well, thanks
for sharing with us, mate, that's been real.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Yeah, good like we Mark, cheers, guys, I didn't have a.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Look at those photos. I'm want to do some reading
up on this guy.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That was a great podcast, Morgan, jeez, you really brought
it today.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You're welcome. My life is weird, so it's just about
sharing my weirdness.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Really,
Ah, yeah, Chris good in the sack?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Baily, Chris Martin? What good on the sack?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
How do we know?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Morgan pen Welcome to the podcast The Unnamed Podcast. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How do we know that Chris Martin's good in the sack?
We can tell by the way he moves. Oh, we
can tell by the way he dances. We can tell
by his gratitude for the earth.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh yeah, I've done something earth humping in my time.
I feel that what.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Does earth humping look like? Well not, actually, what does
it look like? I'm not actually worried about this, but
what is earth humping?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's having deep reverence for mother Earth and getting down
there and showing that gratitude with your body.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Is that it all similar to like those couples that
enjoyed making love in the woods more so than asking
for a friend Echo sexuals.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Okay, right, it's kind of the same vein sexuals.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So you went to Colboy last night? Wells, yeah, I
didn't do any I didn't make love. Okay, that was
that's what you're asking. No, no, no, I wasn't asking that.
I was asking if you had to cold Play last night?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I did.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I went to Coldplay last night, and you didn't make
it that but I didn't make love. No, it would
have been weird if you did. Yeah, he coldplaying with
my daughter, so that would have been highly un irregular.
And how does she go in a wing woman situation?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Your daughter?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And she gave a woman woman such as a woman,
oh wing woman. Yeah, she was a good she was
a good wing woman.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, it was good. Actually, was she helping you out?
This is my dad. You know, i'ms at home for
the night kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's not a sort of a relationship mine with your
parents and really kids.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
You know, I just thought I imagine Michigan doing quite
well in that. You know, you know she she's a
good speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, she knows.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
She wasn't sort of trying to hook me up with
anyone else, which is interesting. She was we were just
sort of watching the music and dancing. She was doing
a bit of singing. Oh right this, Yeah it was nice. Actually,
you know she's fifteen, she's fourteen, fifteen, she's reasonably you know,
you're self conscious.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
At that age.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, there was a woman who was dancing down in
front of us. So it was a granny. She would
have been in a sixties maybe seventies. It was really
vigorously getting into it, having a bloody great time. And
it's always interesting to see the difference between the perspective
of a fourteen to fifteen year old girl and then
a or boy and a forty seven year old man.
(02:20):
Because I looked at that woman, I thought, good on
you having a great time. My daughter was like, how embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Look at that woman, Oh, but you've lost all funks
by that time.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Exactly exactly, And I remember probably looking at them and thinking, oh,
I'm feeling sorry for a woman like that, thinking oh God,
look at you. Everyone's thinking that you're making a fool
of yourself. And now I think, good on you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why wouldn't you move to the.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Music feeling herself.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, she's getting a value for money.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And if you were, let's say, in your seventies, and
you were one of those people that had the prescription
meds and you had them laid out in that little
lunch boxes that you have every day, and you were
going to a Coldplay concert, would you not be like,
might have a couple of days here and just see
where it takes me.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And maybe that's it took it? Okay? To really lose
herself in the music with Chris Madden. She was, she was,
she was really into it. That's awesome, she was really
does she deal with anyone? Seemed like nobody really wanted
to own her.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, nobody was taking ownership of it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh yeah, I've seen you like that actually, and then
that type of state, you know, like we've had the
clubs a couple of times before, Jerry, and you do
have to separate yourself from people that are you know,
a little.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Bit too me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, you need to leave them alone.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Oh, you should see it like a three meta radius
at least for Jerry on the dance floor, once it
gets past the point of you know, when you start
falling up stairs, Jerry, that's when I start.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh, I think I know the situation you're talking about it. Yeah,
you have to stay well clear of that sometimes. She like,
sometimes you just get a little bit loose on it. Yeah,
and that's just that's just being a human. I think
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I just wanted to say that, you know, maybe you
have more in common with this you know, Greennie, than
you thought.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh I do.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think I've got more in common with the Grannie
than I do with my daughter in that regard. Yeah,
I'm more I'm more leaning to the grannie guy.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
You like to, you like to because I know you're
the type of dude that will also be looking at
her going I want to how you know what kind
of time she's having?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And she having a great time? Does she?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
She was having such a good time? She was, she
was loving it, and she she was loving interesting songs too,
like she was.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
She was.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
She knew every word to every Cobler song that Chris
Martin was singing. She was a super fan. When did
Coldplay start cranking up? Were they nineties?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So she would have been late nineties, Yeah, early two thousands.
She would have been in her what like fifties? Oh yeah,
do you say two thousand? Would you say two thousand?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'm going to say say too, I'm going to say
two thousand for Yellow?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Was it the Big One? Was it the first one? Yellow?
Big One? Was Fixed You? The same album? Or that's
about the third and I think Fix You.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Was Yellow Parachutes? Yeah, okay, two thousand. I reckon this
will be interesting. Actually, Okay, here we go, and what's.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
The answer to this. Understand that we've got a big
podcast today. I want to say two thousand. Anyone else
wanted to put a date on it? Yeah, two thousand. Oh,
you're probably two thousand on it. Morgan, I'm with you
two thousand as well. This is fun. We're all on
the same team. Ruder. Yeah, I'm going to go probably.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I feel like, oh, I feel like I'm going to
say something like late June two thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah. Oh, look, twenty sixth of June two thousand is
too nice. Two thousand.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
What's the second single? Shiver was their first single, Shiver Wow,
didn't go as well as Yellow, But there you go?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Is Yellow named after the Yellow Pages? I heard that
rumor once, Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Is it? Yeah? You're right.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He was doing an ill young impression, Chris Martin behind
a piano and he was looking for a word that went,
and he looked up and his Yellow Pages there, and
he just us yellow. So the song's not about anything
in particular, but you got this spot on weird.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, that's weird, well done. It's one of the happens Chris.
See this is the thing with Chris. Chris is Chris
as he's a universal being? Is it one of the universe?
Is feeling it?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think you're also one of those types of people, Morgan, I.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Do get in on the feelings, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Chris whatever? Who Oh, I think you and Chris have
got a lot in common. Yeah, I think you do.
And there's a there's a vibe.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, how do I get to him?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Good question? Let me figure this out. Sure we can get.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Into this, you know though, surely if have you got
like a few thousand dollars lying around?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sure, I wonder if you could.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I wonder if you could buy a meet and greet
or off a side of stage, your front front row experience,
and just get right out there and he might see
that you're his person.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
He might see that also, and Chris get on that,
you get on super well, you get on super well.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I think that you've put it out into the ether
as well as I'm always annoyingly surprised about how you
know now that you've set it behind a microphone, you
never even know. And you've got to do a radio
show tomorrow. So maybe we maybe were trying to try
and track down Chris is a good friend of mine. Actually,
so we'll see you a bit sorted.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Can we just double chick you don't want took up
with Chris Martin form a New Zealand cricket fast bowler,
another good option though.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No deal. Oh, I don't know. What does he look like?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
He's fifty and I'll show he rocks a head band.
It's not without mirrors, all right. You wouldn't, Jerry, if
you climbed in, you would do it from out.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Or you wis Martin and thirty three Test wickets. If
you climbed on your window at night, would you check
him out?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean I yeah, I probably would. I probably would
give him the show on the door. It shore young
Christmas and now he runs a four square.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I like older Chris Martin and I also like chocolate
fish from four squares, So I could do that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You can make that work. We go, we go.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, he's a he's a good guy. He certainly knows
how to bowl a long spell.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
He can.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh, he's got long game.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And I'm very very wind for the head band. Look
for a while in the late two thousand, it's a
bit fetal with the head band. It's a bit feta. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The the face is small, but the head is the
dime is large.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Happens the best of us. What you've got a big
have you. Well, I don't know. You don't big dome.
Your face is not small. I was talking about, you know,
a big knob, shaft or big. You're one of those
guys with a skinny shaft and a big knob, Like.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I feel like now we've repeated it, it's just a
little bit too much.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
The shaft is quite skinny, but the knobs what I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I wouldn't. I would imagine that you would have a
big knob.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Actually called a meshroom, Yeah, a.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Little bit of a it's a bit of a mushroom. Yeah. Anyway,
I understand that's one of the that's not a good look.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Now we're going to take a break because we're going
to stop talking about my mushroom.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's what you can call you know.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And I understand, Morgan, You've got a bit of a
story this year in regards to what we got synetics
from Ruder last night, Dury and I. And it was
about an exciting idea that you might have had a
text from a longtime friend.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, really knocked my socks off, So I thought share
what I received.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh well, okay for to that next excuse me, Welcome back,
Morgan pen You've got a text from a friend recently
and it knocked your socks off. I can just imagine
(09:30):
those socks flying off your feet.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Lying there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I'm thinking of you lying nude on a bier cold yeah,
now flow off.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I would have felt super natural that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I'd imagine It's taken quite a lot to knock your
socks off, Morgan.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And I mean that was, you know, in a good way.
So what does Tick say?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was, Hey, Morgs, how have you been? And I thought, well,
this is weird, Like it's been like five years since
I've heard from this dude. I went to a Catholic
college with him.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I recognized the number.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, I recognized the number. And I was like, I'm
all good, dude, like, how are you? And it's like, oh, yeah,
well my mental health is getting better. But you know,
it's been a tough time. And but I've just gotten out.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Sorry, sorry, you've just gotten out. Yeah. And I was like,
of a relationship or something like that. Do you think
that's what I thought?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I thought, he's obviously escaped something like that's been a
really detrimental, you know, place for him. Relationship, maybe a
rehab out of the closet or something like that, and
I did. I had no idea, and I said, come
out of weir and he said, Morgs google my full name,
which I did to a page, a Google page full
(10:49):
of news stories that he had been caught up in
something pretty hardcore. And I was shot. I was really shot.
And I just thought, like, I've gone into conversation with
him about it, and I said, well, you always were
a wild brumby. You know, I'm not surprised, yeah, in
one respect, but I've been watching his journey. He's been
(11:11):
out now for four weeks of jail, so you'd.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Say, I can see why now he'd say his mental
health is better, yes, because you know it does it?
It probably hits a low point in jail, I'd say,
And now he's out, and that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Why did he go to jail?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
He got caught with half a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Worth of myth, A billion dollars five hundred million dollars
worth of myth.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm not good with math, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's a lot. Yeah, Like how heavy is that? That's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's like them nearly a ton. There must be nine
hundred odd, nearly a thousand kilograms of myth. So he's
had a bit of a shit of the you'd have
to say, and how did he end up getting caught
with that much myth?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I don't know. I don't know. And that's why I
thought we could talk to him. Oh, because I've been
watching him now coming out sharing things on social and
he's he's trying to empower people, talking about addictions and
things like this. And I mean the story's wild, like
if you you know, look it up, it's unreal. But
(12:16):
he Yeah, he's willing to talk to us.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
The headline is how a mysterious drug kingpin called the
Principal frightened two yoddies into accepting nine hundred and ninety
one kgs of Mexican myth that answered that question worth
half a billion dollars, with the pair fearing the mammoth
amount of myth that they had would sink their boat, right,
(12:39):
so they sailed across the tasmum M, well crap.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I mean this is amazing. How have I missed this story?
I mean, so, is he actually giving us like a
number to cool top stuff?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, he's he's happy to have have a We yarned
to us.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well, do you think that we really should we should
call them today or do you think we should call
them tomorrow after we're up on the story.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do you think is better? Morgan?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think I think you've got natural curiosities.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I think.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He's a real open book.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Okay, cool, sweet, have I got a I do have
a number here and see that there just before we
met the waters and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Can we mention his name?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, not his last name and not where he's sort
of from Mark.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He's happy to be Mark.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
The only no goes on is that he just doesn't
want to answer questions about like who he was like
linked to. Obviously the headline new seat is totally fine,
but like know who put him in there? But yeah,
but he's talk about everything else, everything else.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I think the start of that story sounds and mate,
I'm been trued to see how he's managed to get anyway. Okay,
should give him a call and we'll see how this
goes though.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, super interesting, who too was in.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Prison four and a half years and he managed to
get like that was meant to be like at least
another ten more. He refused to talk, which he doesn't
want to talk about what actually happened in the courtroom
but he could have been in there for he just
got labeled as like a late dickhand that didn't know.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Okay, okay, right right, there we go. It's a no
call idea that will come through on So. Oh that
doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Does it doesn't? Here we go, Here we go. That
sounds better, loved Mark, Jeremy Wells. How are you?
Speaker 8 (14:32):
Yeah? Could mate? Good?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Hello, Darling, Sorry, we're late, you're.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Right, you're right now? Just at work.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, that's that's Morgan obviously, you know Morgan. Yeah, and
this is mash over here.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
How are you nice? Meant your mate?
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Yeah? Good Matte? How are you?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Good bro?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And just whack another name in the mix, his executive
producer Ruder.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Morning, mate, how are you?
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yeah, that's very good.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
How are you mate?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You've been you've been out of of prison for how
many weeks?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Three and a half away? Yeah, coming out four weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
I look pretty good.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yeah, definitely better than being in there.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's good.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
It's a big adjustment as a way for that's a
bitter part of half a decade.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
But yeah, it's good Man now.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Morgan, it's MESHI here, sorry, mate, Morgan told us about
your story for the first time this morning, mate, and
I was not very familiar with it. And Welles, you
weren't super familiar with it either, were you. So Mark,
if you wouldn't mind, mate, can you kind of just
tell us what happened?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Cool?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
So look, basically, I just look, I love working on boats,
and I've worked on boats my whole life, but a
fishing boats or sailing yachts and things like that. And
I just I got myself tangled up with a bad
drug addiction and things like that, and so I own
some money to some people, and I got approached about
basically sailing a boat, and yeah, lo and behold on
(15:59):
that boat there happened to be a fear bit of
mishand so holy smoked.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So for those of us that aren't, I've been lucky
enough to not have any kind of addiction to substance,
and especially with infiamine.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Just at the top of that, how did that work?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
So you obviously became addicted if you don't mind my asking, Mark,
And at any point you can tell us to shut up
and not answer a question, by the way, yea, but
how does it? How do you get from getting into
myth infhitamine too, being in quite a fercious amount of debt,
because this is something that we hear a lot about
in this country.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Look, I was never like when you think about drug addiction, right,
you think about what I used to think about too
before I was probably I don't know, and lots of
trouble with my with myself. I you know, like I
got good jobs. I still managed to present well and
I managed to you know, like get around pretty well.
Like and unless you really knew me, you probably didn't
(16:52):
know that I did have those sort of addiction problems
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And when we're talking addiction, probably just to be clear, Mark,
are we talking with them philamine?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Are we talking talking with heroin? Okay? Right?
Speaker 8 (17:05):
A lot?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Really Yeah, it didn't really matter. Yeah, sort of what
they call a multi user.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And were you in Australia or in New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
I was in Australia.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I spend a bit of time in the Middle East
and all the time in Southeast Asia.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, Yeah, got true.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And so there you were, You're grappling with some addiction issues,
you had a little bit of you had some dead obviously,
and then someone said to you, would you like to
sail a boat from one place to another?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Pretty much, mate, Yeah, yeah, that was that was something
short of.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
It, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
So I didn't really go into it with my eyes open,
you know, like I was sort of a bit naive
and things like that probably tricked into a little bit.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
But yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
At what point did you realize that you're the boat
that you were sailing had nine hundred and ninety one
color grams of myth and famine.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
So yeah, when when it got passed to us out
in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Oh my gosh, yeah, like without there was another boat,
you see, and we met up with me past the jugs,
and so we at that point I realized, at call here,
it's a bit it's a bit late at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right, Yeah. And where were you exactly in the Pacific Ocean?
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I think we were miles out.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
We were way outs off the coast of Australia, and
then we started.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
To hit our way in.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, okay, so you were you were living in Australia.
You sailed out to meet the boat, you got the shipment,
and then you were going to sail back and that
was the.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Idea Australia and yeah, a little bit of life apparently.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well yeah, and and was there was how much money
were you were you going to make out of us?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I don't really know. Yeah, look it was yeah enough
to get me out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think, yeah, yeah, that's heaps of me.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Things, that's a lot of me and sit them in right,
like I couldn't really say them at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, because Mark, when I was looking at one of
the news stories and I there were pictures of the myth,
like just piles and piles of it, and it looked
like it had to like put it in every nook
and cranny of that boat.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
The boat was pretty loaded up, like we were, and
we took that. We took like a bit of a
beating out there too, so we took a couple of
big sort of storms sort of sustained made as swells
and stuff like that. So yeah, it was certainly different experience.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Could that have kept sized like it? Was it actually dangerous?
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:32):
I think it was pretty dangerous. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Probably you wouldn't want to have lost your keel because
you're on You're on a sailboat.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Weren't you.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, it would.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Have taken ages to peck all of that stuff on board.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
Yeah, I know, we chalked it on pretty quick. We
weren't working around. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What's it like when you're out on the high seas
knowing what you're carrying? Like, are you scared?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah totally yeah, but I
think you're just running on adrenaline, sort of just trying
to put the left foot in front of the right
foot and running on it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, not eating much.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
How many how many days were it was the voyage
going to be did you think?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Look, I didn't really know at the beginning, but it
ended up being about so we're out there for about
six weeks or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What, yeah, you must have been miles away?
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Was miles away?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
It was just the sort of the route we had
to take.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Ye oh, got chat Okay, you just had to had
to spend a bit of time out there just to
make sure that you didn't go straight out there and
then straight back again.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
What happened in the moment when you realized the pole
pole were on the water after.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
You happened really quickly, right, So, so it was the
sort of four thirty in the morning, and I was
sitting up on the top of the BN and I
turned around and I just heard it. It was the
sound of the ways slapping against the boat behind that,
the boat that they had like a little rib that
they'd snuck up on us on. And so we're then
thirty seconds of seeing them, they were on our boat
(21:12):
and jumped onto off of us.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
And yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
How far off the coast were you at that stage?
Speaker 8 (21:17):
Fifty miles off Newcastle?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh okay, fifty miles Oh yeah, okay, so that's one
hundred k's that's that's a that's.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Not explause it's not that pretty far off because it's
not that far.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, we could see the lights, you know, for the
first time in a long time. So and then it
all went bad.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What time of the year was it, April?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh yeah, okay, so you're there for six weeks, right, so, ah, well,
you can get some bloody big storms in the tessmun
during that period. Obviously you can't look at the weather
report for six weeks because you know you but you can.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Get some storms on six weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yeah, we did, and we did, and we got smashed
up pretty bad. Like the boat was cracked and we
lost our front sale. We lost that all over, So
we're definitely taking.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
A bit of a beating.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
So, Mark, when these police jump on your boat at
four thirty in the morning, do you know if they
knew what was on board or do you think they
just suspected.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
What was on board? They didn't know?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
They did, they suspected, and they certainly didn't know the amount,
like they were sort of looking for one or two
hundred maybe, Yeah, and that's what they were talking about
until it all got counted up.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
And how relieved were you Mark when the rest of
the will went into lockdown for about two years afterwards?
When once you were unfortunate enough to be in jail
as well, mate, because that must be here, must be
thinking it was a small part of you at all
thinking like, oh man, this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Is so strange.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
If you're going to take a time in your life
to go to prison, probably do it when anyone else
is lockdown. Yeah, the fone I wasn't as bad, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And how are you doing anyway?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So after what sounds like an incredible kind of four
and a half years in jail, was that right?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Four and a half in jail.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, I was very very fortunate, like because I went
into my eyes shut and I had some good suppaus
for my family. Yeah, you know, I managed to get.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
A really really good result. So yeah, I was extremely lucky,
really blessed there.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
So you know, like at the start of it, I
thought I won't be seeing the light of day again.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
I thought I was gone.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, Well, what was the conversation with the guys who
came on board your boat? Because like it's it's pretty
obvious that you know, you've got the men fetamine on
the boat. You can't kind of say, oh, I didn't
know how the hell they got there, you know.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, well I would have known.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You would have known. It's like, you can't run away.
You can't run away in that situation.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
No you can't.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah, no, no, you just had to sit there and
own your shirt and yeah, put your hand up for
your mistake. And yeah, but the judge looked at it
and he said, well, look, you know just got had
no prior knowledge to it.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I was just probably a bit of a drunken sailor. Really, yeah,
got pulled into it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
What a story mate?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Tell hey, Mark, one other question you know when you
described when you were out in the Pacific and it's
starting to dawn on you what you're being asked to
do to take these drugs to Australia. Yeah, was there
and this might sound like a stupid question, was there
any part of you that was like I'm just going
to say no? And what were and you know the
(24:18):
repercussions are that obvious that what they just no?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
No, no, No, It wasn't no.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
We were like once you make that decision, you know,
made that cool?
Speaker 8 (24:30):
We had to go through it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I guess I mean I haven't done it.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Sorry, make I've committed at that point.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I've haven't done a lot of you know, drugs
smuggling in my time. I've got to be honest. But
how but how does it work? Mark?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
In terms of is the idea if you're trying to
get into a country, was you know, illegal substances? Is
it just kind of luck when it comes to both
because we hear all the time in terms of like,
you know, interceptions that have happened on our you know,
especially in Tronger.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
At the moment, I think there's a lot of it
going on. Well, there must be a lot of it.
That gets through. Yeah, that's my.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Kind of U. More that gets through than doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, that's percent of it must get through.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
And you know, so you think that I was probably
in the unlucky to send.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah, and I think the judge even said that to
us I'm singing day, said you've rather the Dice Boys
and lost?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah wow that far off? Wow. Well there you go, mate,
that is something made.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, good luck with everything now that you're out, and
and good luck with the addiction issues and stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
And yeah, I know jail saved me life, so definitely
on the up and up now, mate, mate.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Well it makes you glad to hear that, because yeah,
I can imagine four and a half. I suppose it's
for sobriety, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Yeah, it is like you know, I got clean inside,
like I wasn't cleaning in jail for the sispit. You know,
you obviously look in prison, but you know like after
getting the result I got, knowing that I get out,
and I sort of look at it as a bit
of a seeking change of life really, so you know, yeah,
instead of doing some dumb stuff, I'll try and do
some smart things now and get on with my life.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And I've seen you sharing on you know, social media,
you sharing about your health journey and supportive like of
other people to reach out to you even if they're struggling.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
So I really right, I think that's all we can
do is just to help each other. You know, like
it's tough out there at the moment. You know, everyone's
got the story. Everyone goes to stuff, right and and
we've got to be there for our mates.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
The article about the story that's in the Daily Mail,
the Australian newspaper, and it's got some very candid photos
of you guys basically being arrested by the police. Gee,
it looks like you're just like, oh, well, gigs up
and then to see all these photos then just go
up online is just pretty crazy.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it was right.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
So that's I sort of thought about it, right, Like
it's already over the internet, so I'm off just the
front owner, and.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
Yeah, learn from it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I get how just one more thing, So I've just
seen a shot of the of the police boat telling
you under the Sydney Harbor Brodge. Yeah, a lot of
just one hundred one hundred k's off the coast of
newscastle takes a while to tow a boat one hundred
k's How was that?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
That was horrible?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Right for you?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
That was?
Speaker 8 (27:12):
That was brutal.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
So we were just sat because it was COVID as well,
so they just set us at the very back of
the police boat, handcuffs, put us on the ground. Well,
they all danced around us, celebrating and having breakfast and
bacon and eggs. And we didn't eating for ages either,
like we ran a food so we were sitting on
the gown, just got a bit of water in a
fucking soggy biscuit.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
Excuse me.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Yeah, it was brutal, Yeah, watching watching the police celebrated
that like you know what, you're sitting in the back.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The worst moment of your life.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, yeah, the best moment of Yeah, Mark, Well, thanks
for sharing with us, mate, that's been real.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Yeah, good like we Mark, cheers, guys, I didn't have a.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Look at those photos. I'm want to do some reading
up on this guy.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That was a great podcast, Morgan, jeez, you really brought
it today.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You're welcome. My life is weird, so it's just about
sharing my weirdness.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Really,
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