December 4, 2024 • 22 mins
Today on the UnNamed Podcast, the fellas are joined by a friend of the show, Rachin Ravindra, ahead of the second test against England... Great New Zealander!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Oh chum love Rancid, Welcome along to the Unnamed Podcast, Thursday,
the fifth of December twenty twenty four. Mashes here, Joey
Wheeler's here, too good to be here, f olers.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I cap if I could explain New Zealand's catching performance
in the last test with one word, yes, Rancid, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, I think Rancid's probably good to describe it. Symbols,
one word symbols.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, they we had symbol hands yeah, oh yeah, yeah, came.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
In like why I like the crocodiles symbol. That's a
good point. Yeah, where are the soft hands? Do you
know what I'm going to say? Three words hands like feet? Well,
we haven't said who we're talking to today on the
podcast yet. People would have read the title maybe yeah,
the hairy rav Russian reveal.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh sorry, you're saying if you were to explain the
game in one word, you'd say hands like feet.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'd described the New Zealand fear performance and that last
test against England I described them as having hands like feet. Sorry, man,
I wasn't misting.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay, that makes sense now, yes, your hands like fat
Joey said, simple hands yeah, and then yeah right, and
you said, rnswered, Yeah, I'm up to speak.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, there we go. I'm there with you. The little
recap that one richend and drop any catches?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Did he? No?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But let's not forget that it was the one against Australia.
But we don't need to talk about that. Everyone drops catches. Yes,
she's claiming he's never dropped a catch. It was on
the other day. You I haven't He's never dropped a catch.
I haven't ropped a catch since twenty nine. He actually
claims he hasn't dropped the catch since nineteen ninety nine,
and that was when he was born.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You remember your any memorable drops?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So many?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I dropped James Marshall. Yeah, I remember this one. I
dropped James Marshall at first slip absolute gerber. Hold on,
hold on, who did I drop?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I dropped someone off the bowling of James marsh James Marshall.
That was what it was. You were workicking with you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, you're too busy giving me chirp because I just
busted to my shorts because I was a little bit
of weight at the time, and you know, you weren't
focusing on the game.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It was annoying it was the first ball. I think
this guy came out and he scored some runs in
the end of and James Marshall, beautiful outswinger, just perfect line,
perfect link. I saw it and I thought to myself,
you know what this James Marshall is gonna He's going
to be a threat here and I'm going to be
in the money here at first slip and just get
ready to me, get ready, get ready, I thought, the
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soft hands, wait for it, always hands on, always a
hands on knees, that sleep late late, pick up hands
and then just you go into where you're going. I
like the hands on knees of them, both of them. Technique,
Stephen Fleming technique. And then I thought himself it was
going to be coming to me, so stay awake here.
Sure enough he went forward the ball, the ball short
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of a link, swung in the outside of all the way.
I knew it was coming to me. From the hand,
I knew it was coming to me. And first slip,
you get a good look at it from the hand.
And I watched it and I was like, oh, that's
my Brendan, but I want it. It was just about
sort of cock height.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh yeah, lovely it's perfect, just slightly to the right.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And straight out. Part of my hands in and out.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Fell out of the hands.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's for hands. Ah god, it was annoying.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It it's four hands. Was it in napes?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That was in napes? Yeah, Margaret, And I was like,
that was my chance to prove that I just gobble
them up at first slip.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I would have definitely dropped on at some point, to
be fair, Joe, I just can't actually remember. I try
and remove the other thing from my mind, to be honest. Anyway,
retions on the line, do you want to go to him?
Or should we just leave him waiting for it?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'll pick up my dropsies theretion retion?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Are you there retching?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm here. How do you go?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
How are you going? Thanks for thanks for joining us
on the Unnamed podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
No, it's stress. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Oh so good.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
How's prep going for tomorrow? Are you a kind? Are
you the kind of guy Riching that goes down to
the ground like Joe Rote stands on the on the block,
plays some shots, imagines the innings that you're about to play,
or do you just sort of hang out at the
hotel and.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Drink I'm I'm not sure if I do. I used
to do a lot of shit of betting, not so
much anymore. I do. I do do it a bit
of visualization, but it's also a ground that I'm pretty
familiar with, so I feel like I don't need to
be in the middle too much. But yeah, I mean
there's always the uncertainty, always the nerves around what's going
to happen. But we love this game, so it should
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be right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, rich A's meshy here, so we don't actually talk
enough about this, I'd say, as we talk a lot
about the five days during the test, but the day
before is really what I'm interested in here is what
do you? What are you doing today? Are you going
to you going to the barbers? Are getting a bit
of a trum up? What's the plan of attack are you?
Or are you going down to the nets and having
a bit of a bat well?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I mean, if you've seen my Sally doesn't get too
much of a trimp. Often not, as I love to
have a hit, I probably tend to have a little
bit too much training sometimes. I love you about love
any balls, I'll do that and then the rest of
it will just be mincing around, hoping that the time
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goes by slowly so I can get to sleep. But nah,
it's probably just hanging out with my mates a little bit,
see what they're up to and doing that stuff. But yeah,
it's kind of become routine now. I guess I always
joke about it. The morning I've breakfast always taste like cardboard,
can't come get it down. But the night of the
day before, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Rechend Joey Wheelly here made hey look. Fielding performance from
the Black Cats wasn't great. Let's be honest, have the
lads put in a little bit of extra work on
the catching any any sort of tricks that Gary Stint
and his coaching team have passed on to the Fellers
so it can hold on to a couple at the basin.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, I mean, obviously it's some that we pride ourselves
massively on as a group. And I'm kind of a
believer in terms of catchers. As long as you're putting
in the effort in training and games and giving on a hundercent,
that's all you can control. Because sometimes it's sticks. Sometimes
that doesn't. And we know we're usually a very good
feeling side. So I won't say it's anything extra special
that we've we've been doing, But it's just I guess,
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knowing when to switch on and switch off, specially during
a long go cricket. But I think we all have
trust with each other and trust that we're doing the
right thing and training and stuff, so hopefully they'll take
care of itself.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Catching such an interesting thing, isn't it, because it's at
your level, completely psychological because you all know that you
can take. I mean, obviously there's a physical part of it,
like that catch that Glenn Phillips took, that insane diving. Yeah, yeah,
there that type of thing which is just like crazy,
you know, athleticism. There's that end of the spectrum. But
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there's the ones that come to you and you know,
you catch probably at practice nine nine times out of
one hundred, and then all of a sudden in a
game you will spill one that I'm interested in the
psychology around it because I reckon it is psychological.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, it definitely is. I mean, the thing
is about cricket. I think most of the game is psychological.
I mean I probably ask a lot of the greats
of the game. They say it's nine percent mental, right,
We all know we've got the skills and the ability
to perform on a given day. But the say you
can be as president as you can focus on that
one ball at a time and hopefully your skills and
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natural reactions take over. But yeah, I mean it's an art, right,
the whole catching thing being able to especially in t
smatch cricket. You know you're out there for ninety zeros
at times, so you've got to be able to switch
on and off and know when those times are important.
But yeah, I mean it's all you, really you can
do and hope it sticks.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I can ask you a follow up question to that.
Have you ever, can you be honest with us, have
you ever just completely drifted off during a ball in
a Test match and then realized that the ball got
the ball got bold and you actually weren't concentrating on
that ball.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Surely it does happen a lot more than Yeah, it
must happen. I mean, you pride yourself on being able
to be switched on. But I mean, it is a
long day and it is a long game. But what
doesn't happen too often because the crowd's always there and
you're you're pretty switched on and you don't want to
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make a mistake. No, debfinitely me on the boundary, but
I mean I try my.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Best, Richard.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Rugby players always room together on tour. Is that the
same scenario for cricketers? And who is your roomy? If so?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
No, no, we we get our own room.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I follow up to a supplementary to that. Do you
boys do at the end of a Test match or
a Test week? Do you do a went count? Because
that's a big thing on tour with rugby teams. You
get all the boys on their pins and you start
at zero for the tour and then you count up
and the last man standing as the winner of the
wink count. Do you guys do that?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't know how to answer that question. First, well, you.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Don't have to answer it, but who do you think
will be the high.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
One?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I can't answer those.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I was looking at the sixty camel origon tim Southeast
to blame on that one.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I shouldn't put you in that position.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You're right, Joey Garrys.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Did I just look?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I look at the Browns and I think, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Now, when I was playing cricket as a young fellow Wrench,
after we played cricket, and back at the hotel, a
lot of hallway cricket went on. Do you boys partake
in hallway cricket or team room cricket at all?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We played, We played by the hallway cricket and during
that Raindolph just matched Noiter. Recently in Afghanistan, we had
a serious series going on. It was me and Timmy
versus Tom Blundele and Devin Conway, and Me and Timmy
were just too dominant. It was actually sad, poor guys
in the end, but it was fun. We that's the thing.
(10:17):
We played so much cricket, We trained so much, but
at the end of the day we just cracket nappies, right, Yeah,
we just enjoyed the sport and we you know, we
were all we're all kids once so we all have
played that hallway cricket, back out cricket. So it's quite
cool being able to do that on tour.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, are you in the van at the moment?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Training? Where are you?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I just had a catch up with the sports fight
and now I'm just chilling my car. Talk to here,
guys just on your own.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, right, I was just wondering teammate if he was
there what count.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Was rach one was the vibe after the last result, mate,
just out of curiosity the boys kind of take some
positives out of it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I mean it was I had.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Everything from DEPU don'ts so obviously you know Tim Southi
on his on his final Swan song. Were you guys
are feeling all right after that first match?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I mean I think it's something we play ourselves as
a group, not getting too high, not getting too low,
and I'm being able to stay consistent with our behaviors.
But yeah, I mean we've got some leaders in the
group who do that stuff and keep us in check.
But I think there's definitely some good stuff too with
the bat and ball and obviously you know you say
you take your chances. Could have been a different game,
but it is. You know, we know we're playing decent
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cricket at the moment and relatively confident. So I think
we all trust ourselves and trust the roles that we
play and hopefully we can carry it on to the
next too.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Now, before you go, Rich, the brand of England cricket
has changed quite a lot lately, and especially to us
keywiks because of course Bears being involved with it is
really we're really softened up to the English. But is
there still you know, when you're playing, is there still
a level of snark that can come through from the
boys when you're having a bat mate. Who are the
guys from the English that are still giving it to you?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
There's actually I mean in the morning game, there isn't
too much of that, a lot of it because you
play with guys around the world. I already want to
be caught up and giving a guy like lots of chant,
and all of a sudden, two weeks later you playing
the same teams.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, Honestly, like when I'm betting, I don't really hear
too much of that. Fascinating, it's quite interesting. I guess
you hear just like general noise, but you're not really
too focused on what they're saying. But no, I wouldn't
say the snackiness. I think we both get along. Both
teams get along really well. But it's more just the
competitive nature of the sport means there are a few comments.
(12:32):
I mean, Daryl always gets gets involved somehow. I know.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I saw that Darrel when Daryl was betting in that
first Yet I noticed that there was quite a bit
of chirp going on from cars was giving him a
little bit of stick. That was that was quite interesting,
actually I saw that.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, it's good to see I mean a little bit
of competitive edge. I mean I'm not really that sort
of person. Someone says something to me, I'll probably just
be hid down and scratch my crease. But I like,
it's nice to have Darryl on the team because he
thrives off there, I guess, and his intensity is amazing
and he brings that presence to the crease, which is cool.
And eyone's different, right, everyone's got their own sort of
performed level and the arousing that they need.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, some people, it's interesting. Some people you don't want
to see. I remember back in the day, they'd always
talk about players that you sledge and players that you
don't like sledging. The US to say ten Doca didn't
like being sledged. But yeah, there were some some people
you sledge more. Steve war for example, the more you
sledge him, the more you just down. It's like, don't
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talk to him. That will actually just focus him.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
It's quite weird that, well, that's they say that about
poly right, Yeah, you get at him and then his
intensity gets up and he gets more switched on and
he starts going at people. But yeah, I don't know.
I've never really said anything in the field. I don't
know if I'm worky enough to think about something in
the moment, but also kind of feeling out on the
boundary most of the time, I'm kind of lonely.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who's the guy in the in the black caps at
the moment, mate, that keeps the vibe high? You know,
when you're not not out in the middle betting and
you're sitting on the sideline watching the boys go to work.
Who keeps the band are flowing?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I would probably say Tommy. Timmy keeps the banter going
most of the time. I'm sure you guys would have
picked that. It's always nice though, even when you get
press point after we while bays in the chaining room
and have some good yards with the boys, which is
I mean, that's why we do it right. It's just
those little moments which are cool. But yeah, probably say
Timmy still carries carries a flag there. I think someone
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will have to step up when he's done.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
How long after you get out in a test match,
so obviously you get out and then you're walking back
and at that point every cricketer knows that feeling when
you're walking back and it's just regret and you wish
that you could have that ball over again, and you'll
just leave that completely different thing. We all know that feeling.
And then you get back into the changing shed and
(14:52):
you chuck your bat, you know, smash a bet into
the wall whatever. How long before you as a player,
I retion get over that for you? When does the
feelings start to subside?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I like to say that as soon as I step
over the boundary and you know, out of the ground subsides,
But no, it sticks with me. Also depends the way
you get out, But I think I've gotten better over
the years as well. It's like, realistically, guys, you're going
to get out most times you get right, So I
guess it's accepting that and being like, hey, that's okay
if you can be comfortable at peace with the way
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you better than the process that you had. Sometimes the
battles alat to get you out. Sometimes you are allowed
to get yourself out. That's just the game, right, But
as we all have high standards for ourselves, But it
takes a bit of time. I mean again, it depends
on the way you got out, but I'd probably want
to not pile on it, but I'm I guess I've
gone a bit at reviewing it.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You're also scif folded for failure in that area. They
didn't yet rich because you came in and just you know,
absolutely blew everyone away with pretty incredible betting performances and
really see some high standards and then all of a
sudden you've got to live up to those. Is that
an issue for you or did you find that ad
all tough?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I mean, you must have been tough with the way
you came onto the scene, especially with the with the
fern on your on your jersey. But is that something
that you've really been trying to focus on? Is that, like,
because we're always talking about form on this podcast, we
always have been obsessed with the idea of cricketers form,
What actually is form and how does it actually work?
Because we know that it exists, but it doesn't really
make any kind of you know, sense. But is that
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is that something that you spend much time thinking about? Like,
you know, you came onto the scene all guns blazing
and then you have to keep their standards.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
High, you know, Thank you so, but I think it's
also how you pride yourself as a player, as a person,
no matter what. If you start off well, you start
off not so great, you keep going whatever it looks like.
I think you're saying true to who you are and
straying through the way you play your cricket. And that's
all you can control something. You know, we know you
can't control results all the time. We always try to
win games cricket, of course, but individually you do what
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you can, and you train a hard as you can.
You have your process in between ball and if it
doesn't work out, that's okay. But yeah, I mean there's
always going to be pressure from yourself and only if
you've done well. But I think most of that stuff
is just outside noise. Right at the end of the day,
it's just you and the ball in that moment, and
you talk about form and that's the same thing. If
you train a number of times and you trust that
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and your back your ability, hopefully that works out. I mean,
you look at someone like Caine so that millions of
balls throughout the time and how consistent he is. I
think the pressure of him being the greatest aboutter greatest
player whatever it is, it doesn't seem like it affects
him when he's batting, So that's something always to strive for.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Rissan.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
How much of cricket is luck and how much do
you think about luck before you're going into a game?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, I guess, I mean it is, I guess cricket
there's so many external things that happen, the pitch, the weather,
the ball, your reaction to a certain ball, if it
nips you know a little bit more, you're playing missing lips.
Knit's a bit less, a.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Lot of luck, a lot of uncontrollables exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
But that's the thing you surrender yourself to those moments,
right and being like, hey, I know there's a lot
of things happening, but if I can control what I
can control, hopefully I'll come out on the better end
of it. But I don't know if i'd pull it,
Like I guess, it's just the game, right, There's so
many different things that happen, and like I said, if
you can trust what you're doing, that's all that matters.
And it's sometimes it's a tough game, but it's tough
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enjoyable and that's probably what makes it so enjoyable is
the challenge of it, and that's what excites me every
time you get to play.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, it arguably, say it's the toughest game.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, very few one chance sports, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You fail more than you succeed. I mean there's very
few sports where you go. I mean baseball actually betting,
and baseball's a little bit like that. You fail more
than you succeed, even the best best batsman, because rage,
what's it like?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You score sixty, you have an edge one or game,
and then all of a sudden, the's slight laps in conversation,
you spoon one to short square leg.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Or whatever like that? Is that the hardest way to
get out? Or you know, what's a good point that
you make him? This is a good question, MESHI. Is
it better? Would you rather get out on sixty or five?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess you're the whole thing like, oh,
you haven't converted into a hundred or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But for forty five? What about forty five or or
three up of the average jury?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I think I think it's just whatever contributed to seem
the most. To be honest, I think fades away in
terms of I want to average fifty or I want
to score all these hundreds realistically, doesn't matter, right, I mean,
you're you're just trying to do your job for the
team and hopefully you can win win games in that way.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's an interesting point you make there. So you're not
a real numbers guy, chen you're focused on You just
out there, see the ball, hurt the ball, smack it
wherever you want to.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Smack it, well, hopefully. I mean it probably sounds a
little more simpler than than it really is, I guess, so.
I mean, I'm probably people i'd probably come off as
quite a stats guy, but I don't. I'm a huge
crack and naffy for sure. But for me, it's just
trying to contribute to what the team needs in that moment.
And whether that looks like a six you'll seeming on
a difficult wicket or it means getting a double hundred
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on a slightly slater one, then you try to do
whatever job you can.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Look, thanks so much for giving us your time this morning.
Appreciate it greatly, and best of luck. Go out there
and smash English this weekend. Double hundred yep, that.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Would be nice. That'd be nice, guys, Thank you very much.
For having me appreciate it all right, see your ration?
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh go, that's using great guy, one of the great
one of the greatest guys, such a cool customer, so talented.
He didn't quite get around to asking him where does
he when you know, when you're batting, where do you
want it? Where are you?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Just?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yea favorite shot?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I reckon, I reckon for him, it's just a bit
short on the hip.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm sure we'll be able to talk to him about
it again. But he knows how to open that heap
and put a bit of a cow It was.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
As issue, wasn't it? Just tasty got out that bullshot.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Just loves it, especially in the short for me, he's
got no issues tucking into it and fa.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That one with a straightish bat that he plays. That's
a great shot.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Consider rest on him too.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, long man, Harold twenty five, you're about my age.
I think you nice little paycheck from the IPL Yeah game.
He's kind of cracked the code. He's got that super
relaxed kind of vibe. He's one of those guys that's
cracked the code. Yeah, it's interesting. Why wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Because Crackett can be perceived in so many different ways.
Like there's people that approach the sport like an individual sport,
and then there's people like it just sounds like he's
happy to be a part of a team that's playing
a sport that he's into.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, and whatever he needs to do in the certain scenario.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I reckon when you get to that level, if
you're a guy that's completely focused on yourself, it's a
bit of a struggle inside of a team environment. But
if you're thinking about the team, I think, particularly as
a New Zealand player, I think you got a lot better.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
He didn't want to answer the wink count question.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Interesting, No, good question though, good of you was a
good question. Well we'll we'll next time we get him
and we'll push that again.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, I think so. I think that has to be
a standard actually for athletes we have on the show.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I definitely Gary Stead. Actually, should we get Gary Stid
on the phone tomorrow. We need to get Steed's wink count.
That's crucial. And when people need to the people need
to know. Interesting, they room by themselves. Yeah, so the
wind going to be high. Yeah, but you hear about
boxes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
They get told to you know, not messed about a
couple of weeks prior to seed.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, don't you spill the seed. Keep your keep your
seed in your get your seed in your body. Yeah,
keep keep the energy in there.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So day three of a test, you've just scored a
double one hundred, you go home and you're watching the
highlights of yourself and you think, why not? But you
can't do that?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That would have been another good question. Have whacked one
out to your own to write that one down?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Follow on count shot montage?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You ever, you ever whacked one out to your seven
for it at the Cake ten and the World Cup
in twenty fifteen, definitely would have, I know, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
On that big screen of us on the Lazy Boy
Speaker 1 (22:54):
All right, good on your boys, good stuff,
Oh chum love Rancid, Welcome along to the Unnamed Podcast, Thursday,
the fifth of December twenty twenty four. Mashes here, Joey
Wheeler's here, too good to be here, f olers.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I cap if I could explain New Zealand's catching performance
in the last test with one word, yes, Rancid, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, I think Rancid's probably good to describe it. Symbols,
one word symbols.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, they we had symbol hands yeah, oh yeah, yeah, came.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
In like why I like the crocodiles symbol. That's a
good point. Yeah, where are the soft hands? Do you
know what I'm going to say? Three words hands like feet? Well,
we haven't said who we're talking to today on the
podcast yet. People would have read the title maybe yeah,
the hairy rav Russian reveal.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh sorry, you're saying if you were to explain the
game in one word, you'd say hands like feet.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'd described the New Zealand fear performance and that last
test against England I described them as having hands like feet. Sorry, man,
I wasn't misting.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay, that makes sense now, yes, your hands like fat
Joey said, simple hands yeah, and then yeah right, and
you said, rnswered, Yeah, I'm up to speak.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, there we go. I'm there with you. The little
recap that one richend and drop any catches?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Did he? No?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But let's not forget that it was the one against Australia.
But we don't need to talk about that. Everyone drops catches. Yes,
she's claiming he's never dropped a catch. It was on
the other day. You I haven't He's never dropped a catch.
I haven't ropped a catch since twenty nine. He actually
claims he hasn't dropped the catch since nineteen ninety nine,
and that was when he was born.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You remember your any memorable drops?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So many?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I dropped James Marshall. Yeah, I remember this one. I
dropped James Marshall at first slip absolute gerber. Hold on,
hold on, who did I drop?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I dropped someone off the bowling of James marsh James Marshall.
That was what it was. You were workicking with you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, you're too busy giving me chirp because I just
busted to my shorts because I was a little bit
of weight at the time, and you know, you weren't
focusing on the game.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It was annoying it was the first ball. I think
this guy came out and he scored some runs in
the end of and James Marshall, beautiful outswinger, just perfect line,
perfect link. I saw it and I thought to myself,
you know what this James Marshall is gonna He's going
to be a threat here and I'm going to be
in the money here at first slip and just get
ready to me, get ready, get ready, I thought, the
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soft hands, wait for it, always hands on, always a
hands on knees, that sleep late late, pick up hands
and then just you go into where you're going. I
like the hands on knees of them, both of them. Technique,
Stephen Fleming technique. And then I thought himself it was
going to be coming to me, so stay awake here.
Sure enough he went forward the ball, the ball short
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of a link, swung in the outside of all the way.
I knew it was coming to me. From the hand,
I knew it was coming to me. And first slip,
you get a good look at it from the hand.
And I watched it and I was like, oh, that's
my Brendan, but I want it. It was just about
sort of cock height.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh yeah, lovely it's perfect, just slightly to the right.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And straight out. Part of my hands in and out.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Fell out of the hands.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's for hands. Ah god, it was annoying.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It it's four hands. Was it in napes?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That was in napes? Yeah, Margaret, And I was like,
that was my chance to prove that I just gobble
them up at first slip.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I would have definitely dropped on at some point, to
be fair, Joe, I just can't actually remember. I try
and remove the other thing from my mind, to be honest. Anyway,
retions on the line, do you want to go to him?
Or should we just leave him waiting for it?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'll pick up my dropsies theretion retion?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Are you there retching?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm here. How do you go?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
How are you going? Thanks for thanks for joining us
on the Unnamed podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
No, it's stress. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Oh so good.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
How's prep going for tomorrow? Are you a kind? Are
you the kind of guy Riching that goes down to
the ground like Joe Rote stands on the on the block,
plays some shots, imagines the innings that you're about to play,
or do you just sort of hang out at the
hotel and.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Drink I'm I'm not sure if I do. I used
to do a lot of shit of betting, not so
much anymore. I do. I do do it a bit
of visualization, but it's also a ground that I'm pretty
familiar with, so I feel like I don't need to
be in the middle too much. But yeah, I mean
there's always the uncertainty, always the nerves around what's going
to happen. But we love this game, so it should
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be right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, rich A's meshy here, so we don't actually talk
enough about this, I'd say, as we talk a lot
about the five days during the test, but the day
before is really what I'm interested in here is what
do you? What are you doing today? Are you going
to you going to the barbers? Are getting a bit
of a trum up? What's the plan of attack are you?
Or are you going down to the nets and having
a bit of a bat well?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I mean, if you've seen my Sally doesn't get too
much of a trimp. Often not, as I love to
have a hit, I probably tend to have a little
bit too much training sometimes. I love you about love
any balls, I'll do that and then the rest of
it will just be mincing around, hoping that the time
(05:22):
goes by slowly so I can get to sleep. But nah,
it's probably just hanging out with my mates a little bit,
see what they're up to and doing that stuff. But yeah,
it's kind of become routine now. I guess I always
joke about it. The morning I've breakfast always taste like cardboard,
can't come get it down. But the night of the
day before, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Rechend Joey Wheelly here made hey look. Fielding performance from
the Black Cats wasn't great. Let's be honest, have the
lads put in a little bit of extra work on
the catching any any sort of tricks that Gary Stint
and his coaching team have passed on to the Fellers
so it can hold on to a couple at the basin.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, I mean, obviously it's some that we pride ourselves
massively on as a group. And I'm kind of a
believer in terms of catchers. As long as you're putting
in the effort in training and games and giving on a hundercent,
that's all you can control. Because sometimes it's sticks. Sometimes
that doesn't. And we know we're usually a very good
feeling side. So I won't say it's anything extra special
that we've we've been doing, But it's just I guess,
(06:19):
knowing when to switch on and switch off, specially during
a long go cricket. But I think we all have
trust with each other and trust that we're doing the
right thing and training and stuff, so hopefully they'll take
care of itself.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Catching such an interesting thing, isn't it, because it's at
your level, completely psychological because you all know that you
can take. I mean, obviously there's a physical part of it,
like that catch that Glenn Phillips took, that insane diving. Yeah, yeah,
there that type of thing which is just like crazy,
you know, athleticism. There's that end of the spectrum. But
(06:54):
there's the ones that come to you and you know,
you catch probably at practice nine nine times out of
one hundred, and then all of a sudden in a
game you will spill one that I'm interested in the
psychology around it because I reckon it is psychological.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, it definitely is. I mean, the thing
is about cricket. I think most of the game is psychological.
I mean I probably ask a lot of the greats
of the game. They say it's nine percent mental, right,
We all know we've got the skills and the ability
to perform on a given day. But the say you
can be as president as you can focus on that
one ball at a time and hopefully your skills and
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natural reactions take over. But yeah, I mean it's an art, right,
the whole catching thing being able to especially in t
smatch cricket. You know you're out there for ninety zeros
at times, so you've got to be able to switch
on and off and know when those times are important.
But yeah, I mean it's all you, really you can
do and hope it sticks.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I can ask you a follow up question to that.
Have you ever, can you be honest with us, have
you ever just completely drifted off during a ball in
a Test match and then realized that the ball got
the ball got bold and you actually weren't concentrating on
that ball.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Surely it does happen a lot more than Yeah, it
must happen. I mean, you pride yourself on being able
to be switched on. But I mean, it is a
long day and it is a long game. But what
doesn't happen too often because the crowd's always there and
you're you're pretty switched on and you don't want to
(08:28):
make a mistake. No, debfinitely me on the boundary, but
I mean I try my.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Best, Richard.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Rugby players always room together on tour. Is that the
same scenario for cricketers? And who is your roomy? If so?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
No, no, we we get our own room.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I follow up to a supplementary to that. Do you
boys do at the end of a Test match or
a Test week? Do you do a went count? Because
that's a big thing on tour with rugby teams. You
get all the boys on their pins and you start
at zero for the tour and then you count up
and the last man standing as the winner of the
wink count. Do you guys do that?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't know how to answer that question. First, well, you.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Don't have to answer it, but who do you think
will be the high.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
One?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I can't answer those.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I was looking at the sixty camel origon tim Southeast
to blame on that one.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I shouldn't put you in that position.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You're right, Joey Garrys.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Did I just look?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I look at the Browns and I think, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Now, when I was playing cricket as a young fellow Wrench,
after we played cricket, and back at the hotel, a
lot of hallway cricket went on. Do you boys partake
in hallway cricket or team room cricket at all?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We played, We played by the hallway cricket and during
that Raindolph just matched Noiter. Recently in Afghanistan, we had
a serious series going on. It was me and Timmy
versus Tom Blundele and Devin Conway, and Me and Timmy
were just too dominant. It was actually sad, poor guys
in the end, but it was fun. We that's the thing.
(10:17):
We played so much cricket, We trained so much, but
at the end of the day we just cracket nappies, right, Yeah,
we just enjoyed the sport and we you know, we
were all we're all kids once so we all have
played that hallway cricket, back out cricket. So it's quite
cool being able to do that on tour.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, are you in the van at the moment?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Training? Where are you?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I just had a catch up with the sports fight
and now I'm just chilling my car. Talk to here,
guys just on your own.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, right, I was just wondering teammate if he was
there what count.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Was rach one was the vibe after the last result, mate,
just out of curiosity the boys kind of take some
positives out of it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I mean it was I had.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Everything from DEPU don'ts so obviously you know Tim Southi
on his on his final Swan song. Were you guys
are feeling all right after that first match?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I mean I think it's something we play ourselves as
a group, not getting too high, not getting too low,
and I'm being able to stay consistent with our behaviors.
But yeah, I mean we've got some leaders in the
group who do that stuff and keep us in check.
But I think there's definitely some good stuff too with
the bat and ball and obviously you know you say
you take your chances. Could have been a different game,
but it is. You know, we know we're playing decent
(11:26):
cricket at the moment and relatively confident. So I think
we all trust ourselves and trust the roles that we
play and hopefully we can carry it on to the
next too.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Now, before you go, Rich, the brand of England cricket
has changed quite a lot lately, and especially to us
keywiks because of course Bears being involved with it is
really we're really softened up to the English. But is
there still you know, when you're playing, is there still
a level of snark that can come through from the
boys when you're having a bat mate. Who are the
guys from the English that are still giving it to you?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
There's actually I mean in the morning game, there isn't
too much of that, a lot of it because you
play with guys around the world. I already want to
be caught up and giving a guy like lots of chant,
and all of a sudden, two weeks later you playing
the same teams.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, Honestly, like when I'm betting, I don't really hear
too much of that. Fascinating, it's quite interesting. I guess
you hear just like general noise, but you're not really
too focused on what they're saying. But no, I wouldn't
say the snackiness. I think we both get along. Both
teams get along really well. But it's more just the
competitive nature of the sport means there are a few comments.
(12:32):
I mean, Daryl always gets gets involved somehow. I know.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I saw that Darrel when Daryl was betting in that
first Yet I noticed that there was quite a bit
of chirp going on from cars was giving him a
little bit of stick. That was that was quite interesting,
actually I saw that.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, it's good to see I mean a little bit
of competitive edge. I mean I'm not really that sort
of person. Someone says something to me, I'll probably just
be hid down and scratch my crease. But I like,
it's nice to have Darryl on the team because he
thrives off there, I guess, and his intensity is amazing
and he brings that presence to the crease, which is cool.
And eyone's different, right, everyone's got their own sort of
performed level and the arousing that they need.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, some people, it's interesting. Some people you don't want
to see. I remember back in the day, they'd always
talk about players that you sledge and players that you
don't like sledging. The US to say ten Doca didn't
like being sledged. But yeah, there were some some people
you sledge more. Steve war for example, the more you
sledge him, the more you just down. It's like, don't
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talk to him. That will actually just focus him.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
It's quite weird that, well, that's they say that about
poly right, Yeah, you get at him and then his
intensity gets up and he gets more switched on and
he starts going at people. But yeah, I don't know.
I've never really said anything in the field. I don't
know if I'm worky enough to think about something in
the moment, but also kind of feeling out on the
boundary most of the time, I'm kind of lonely.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who's the guy in the in the black caps at
the moment, mate, that keeps the vibe high? You know,
when you're not not out in the middle betting and
you're sitting on the sideline watching the boys go to work.
Who keeps the band are flowing?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I would probably say Tommy. Timmy keeps the banter going
most of the time. I'm sure you guys would have
picked that. It's always nice though, even when you get
press point after we while bays in the chaining room
and have some good yards with the boys, which is
I mean, that's why we do it right. It's just
those little moments which are cool. But yeah, probably say
Timmy still carries carries a flag there. I think someone
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will have to step up when he's done.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
How long after you get out in a test match,
so obviously you get out and then you're walking back
and at that point every cricketer knows that feeling when
you're walking back and it's just regret and you wish
that you could have that ball over again, and you'll
just leave that completely different thing. We all know that feeling.
And then you get back into the changing shed and
(14:52):
you chuck your bat, you know, smash a bet into
the wall whatever. How long before you as a player,
I retion get over that for you? When does the
feelings start to subside?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I like to say that as soon as I step
over the boundary and you know, out of the ground subsides,
But no, it sticks with me. Also depends the way
you get out, But I think I've gotten better over
the years as well. It's like, realistically, guys, you're going
to get out most times you get right, So I
guess it's accepting that and being like, hey, that's okay
if you can be comfortable at peace with the way
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you better than the process that you had. Sometimes the
battles alat to get you out. Sometimes you are allowed
to get yourself out. That's just the game, right, But
as we all have high standards for ourselves, But it
takes a bit of time. I mean again, it depends
on the way you got out, but I'd probably want
to not pile on it, but I'm I guess I've
gone a bit at reviewing it.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You're also scif folded for failure in that area. They
didn't yet rich because you came in and just you know,
absolutely blew everyone away with pretty incredible betting performances and
really see some high standards and then all of a
sudden you've got to live up to those. Is that
an issue for you or did you find that ad
all tough?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I mean, you must have been tough with the way
you came onto the scene, especially with the with the
fern on your on your jersey. But is that something
that you've really been trying to focus on? Is that, like,
because we're always talking about form on this podcast, we
always have been obsessed with the idea of cricketers form,
What actually is form and how does it actually work?
Because we know that it exists, but it doesn't really
make any kind of you know, sense. But is that
(16:25):
is that something that you spend much time thinking about? Like,
you know, you came onto the scene all guns blazing
and then you have to keep their standards.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
High, you know, Thank you so, but I think it's
also how you pride yourself as a player, as a person,
no matter what. If you start off well, you start
off not so great, you keep going whatever it looks like.
I think you're saying true to who you are and
straying through the way you play your cricket. And that's
all you can control something. You know, we know you
can't control results all the time. We always try to
win games cricket, of course, but individually you do what
(16:52):
you can, and you train a hard as you can.
You have your process in between ball and if it
doesn't work out, that's okay. But yeah, I mean there's
always going to be pressure from yourself and only if
you've done well. But I think most of that stuff
is just outside noise. Right at the end of the day,
it's just you and the ball in that moment, and
you talk about form and that's the same thing. If
you train a number of times and you trust that
(17:12):
and your back your ability, hopefully that works out. I mean,
you look at someone like Caine so that millions of
balls throughout the time and how consistent he is. I
think the pressure of him being the greatest aboutter greatest
player whatever it is, it doesn't seem like it affects
him when he's batting, So that's something always to strive for.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Rissan.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
How much of cricket is luck and how much do
you think about luck before you're going into a game?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, I guess, I mean it is, I guess cricket
there's so many external things that happen, the pitch, the weather,
the ball, your reaction to a certain ball, if it
nips you know a little bit more, you're playing missing lips.
Knit's a bit less, a.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Lot of luck, a lot of uncontrollables exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
But that's the thing you surrender yourself to those moments,
right and being like, hey, I know there's a lot
of things happening, but if I can control what I
can control, hopefully I'll come out on the better end
of it. But I don't know if i'd pull it,
Like I guess, it's just the game, right, There's so
many different things that happen, and like I said, if
you can trust what you're doing, that's all that matters.
And it's sometimes it's a tough game, but it's tough
(18:22):
enjoyable and that's probably what makes it so enjoyable is
the challenge of it, and that's what excites me every
time you get to play.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, it arguably, say it's the toughest game.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, very few one chance sports, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You fail more than you succeed. I mean there's very
few sports where you go. I mean baseball actually betting,
and baseball's a little bit like that. You fail more
than you succeed, even the best best batsman, because rage,
what's it like?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You score sixty, you have an edge one or game,
and then all of a sudden, the's slight laps in conversation,
you spoon one to short square leg.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Or whatever like that? Is that the hardest way to
get out? Or you know, what's a good point that
you make him? This is a good question, MESHI. Is
it better? Would you rather get out on sixty or five?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess you're the whole thing like, oh,
you haven't converted into a hundred or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But for forty five? What about forty five or or
three up of the average jury?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I think I think it's just whatever contributed to seem
the most. To be honest, I think fades away in
terms of I want to average fifty or I want
to score all these hundreds realistically, doesn't matter, right, I mean,
you're you're just trying to do your job for the
team and hopefully you can win win games in that way.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's an interesting point you make there. So you're not
a real numbers guy, chen you're focused on You just
out there, see the ball, hurt the ball, smack it
wherever you want to.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Smack it, well, hopefully. I mean it probably sounds a
little more simpler than than it really is, I guess, so.
I mean, I'm probably people i'd probably come off as
quite a stats guy, but I don't. I'm a huge
crack and naffy for sure. But for me, it's just
trying to contribute to what the team needs in that moment.
And whether that looks like a six you'll seeming on
a difficult wicket or it means getting a double hundred
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on a slightly slater one, then you try to do
whatever job you can.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Look, thanks so much for giving us your time this morning.
Appreciate it greatly, and best of luck. Go out there
and smash English this weekend. Double hundred yep, that.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Would be nice. That'd be nice, guys, Thank you very much.
For having me appreciate it all right, see your ration?
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh go, that's using great guy, one of the great
one of the greatest guys, such a cool customer, so talented.
He didn't quite get around to asking him where does
he when you know, when you're batting, where do you
want it? Where are you?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Just?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yea favorite shot?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I reckon, I reckon for him, it's just a bit
short on the hip.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm sure we'll be able to talk to him about
it again. But he knows how to open that heap
and put a bit of a cow It was.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
As issue, wasn't it? Just tasty got out that bullshot.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Just loves it, especially in the short for me, he's
got no issues tucking into it and fa.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That one with a straightish bat that he plays. That's
a great shot.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Consider rest on him too.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, long man, Harold twenty five, you're about my age.
I think you nice little paycheck from the IPL Yeah game.
He's kind of cracked the code. He's got that super
relaxed kind of vibe. He's one of those guys that's
cracked the code. Yeah, it's interesting. Why wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Because Crackett can be perceived in so many different ways.
Like there's people that approach the sport like an individual sport,
and then there's people like it just sounds like he's
happy to be a part of a team that's playing
a sport that he's into.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, and whatever he needs to do in the certain scenario.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I reckon when you get to that level, if
you're a guy that's completely focused on yourself, it's a
bit of a struggle inside of a team environment. But
if you're thinking about the team, I think, particularly as
a New Zealand player, I think you got a lot better.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
He didn't want to answer the wink count question.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Interesting, No, good question though, good of you was a
good question. Well we'll we'll next time we get him
and we'll push that again.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, I think so. I think that has to be
a standard actually for athletes we have on the show.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I definitely Gary Stead. Actually, should we get Gary Stid
on the phone tomorrow. We need to get Steed's wink count.
That's crucial. And when people need to the people need
to know. Interesting, they room by themselves. Yeah, so the
wind going to be high. Yeah, but you hear about
boxes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
They get told to you know, not messed about a
couple of weeks prior to seed.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, don't you spill the seed. Keep your keep your
seed in your get your seed in your body. Yeah,
keep keep the energy in there.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So day three of a test, you've just scored a
double one hundred, you go home and you're watching the
highlights of yourself and you think, why not? But you
can't do that?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That would have been another good question. Have whacked one
out to your own to write that one down?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Follow on count shot montage?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You ever, you ever whacked one out to your seven
for it at the Cake ten and the World Cup
in twenty fifteen, definitely would have, I know, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
On that big screen of us on the Lazy Boy
Speaker 1 (22:54):
All right, good on your boys, good stuff,
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