September 11, 2025 • 22 mins
Today on the pod we do a deep dive into the song "Now That We've Found Love (What Are We Gonna Do With It?)" - Who did the original? Who did the covers? And who are Third World?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No that we found love? What are we gonna do?
Wey no that we found love? What are we gonna do?
Wey no?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Found we gonna do?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Weey? It's ready dollar we gonna do we Welcome along
to the podcast Partay, the twelfth of September twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Magnetic Shoot Shoot, Shoot, Shoot, Shoot all over the place.
This is not the VERSIONNAT thing that's pretty hot. That's
pretty hot old man soundtrack to my because on that
career at the Freezing Works. Really yeah, I had one
(01:07):
of those. I bought myself a not a tape deck,
but you know, a head set and and the fusion
subware for that went in the boot as well. And
it was one of those ones remember back in the day,
because people could steal the head set, so you would
take the the thing off member and you could put
(01:29):
it in the glove box or whatever you did with that.
Well that that flapped down, then you put the CD
and then pushed it back up. And one day I
pushed it back up and it broke. The CD stuck
in their Third World greatst sets.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So you really got to love Third World.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, this version is one I've not heard before, but yeah,
I really got to know third World originally?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Who's the original on this we found?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Are we going to do with it? I'm pretty sure
it is third World?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
This is the original?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
This isn't though, I think this is a cover, I believe.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
What about the version by the OJ's or by Heavy
D and the Boys?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh, Heavy Dan, the Boys? Did they do it? Yeah?
The Heavy Dan the Boys. That was a one that
I've actually never heard of. Happy Friday, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, Happy Friday, Happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Can I give an update to the Crow of bay Belly? Oh?
Not here today? And I don't think she works Fridays.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I don't know she's she's w f H.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
How's this one?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Just heav D and the Boys, Heavy Dan the Boys?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
What year? I reckon? This is nineteen ninety two? Only
ninety one? What is it? Only three fells like ninety three?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Early nineties?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Laid out.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's had a real sound to it.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
So out in the street, call up, Jerry, can you shoot?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Jerry doesn't loop?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The loop?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Sure? So that's that is?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
We just went through the entire show with the lights off.
By the way, I liked it, and we shut the
lights out this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I liked it. I thought the natural light has a vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It does, I will say, and Willie po Chang handled
it like a champ, But I felt like Goldie wasn't
gonna stand for that ship.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He's not a lights off sort of a guy.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Goldie's lights one. Goldie is very firmly lights on.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's the lights on sort of a guy. He's the
lights on socks offer.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well he was a yeah, Well he was a blazer
pocket square into a pair of black and blue Nike dunks,
and that is a lights on operator, if ever I've
heard one.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Do you think he's still got a Nike sponsorship? I
don't know, because he was sponsored by Nike.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wasn't he a big basketball fan? Goldie and I used
to because he would fill in when I was on
the mainstream sports media and we had him for about
a month, and Goldie and I would sit there and
talk fantasy hoops every day. Did Pat Russell Westbrook up?
You know he's gonna counting stants and out of position
stants like rebounds thro a point guard very valuable, but
(04:23):
it's a shooting percentage going to tank your season.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
There'll be man, Goldie, do you think there's a sport
and just would be a good segment for a radio show,
a probably TV show where where you could be better
than that at gold than Goldie. Could you keep could
you beat Goldie? Like beating Goldie? Chess the sport.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I reckon he did waste at cheers.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm useless at chess. I'm just putting it out.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
There's chess a sport. Chess is not a sport than sports.
In sports, a sports, a pub game, it's a it's
a sport. Poul pools the sports poll is the sport.
I reckon he'd be I've seen him play golf, He's
on a four or something, but as golf a sport,
golf's a sport. Yeah, yeah, I think I think all
those things are sports. I think chess is not a sport.
(05:12):
Chess is a board game.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I hope God he doesn't mind me telling the story,
but Goldian golf has just reminded me of a time
where we were out playing golf. Actually, Jerry, I think
you were with me. We had played at that real
flash course up North Beautiful, and Goldie was in the
group behind us and I and everyone was sitting around talking,
(05:35):
you know, afterwards, having a beer and they said, Oh,
I saw Jeff Wilson behind us, and how do you reckon?
He goes on the golf course, And I guarantee here
is excellent because those retired athletes, they can't turn the
competitive part of their brain off. They are just wired
that way. If you ever hung out with a former
professional athlete, they are There's a reason they get to
that level is because they are competitive about absolutely everything. No.
(05:58):
Sooner had I finished saying that, than Goldie showed up
and someone asked him, how did you go? And I guess, well,
this guy, he was up by two menaced mow him,
chase him down. I managed to get him in the
last thing, and just like launched into this indiath analysis
of how he managed to chase down and eventually throttle
the guy that he was playing kits. I told you
cannot turn oh man, that competitiveness. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think as well. He's just got stupidly good timing
and hand eye.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And he would be used to being excellent everything.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, he's just good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Some of those guys, I mean because he played cricket
for museum, we played he played basketball underage basketball phaneseum. Yeah,
and then he played rugby. Obviously is an All Black great, So.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He plays down the basketball thing. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I think he's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I think he's pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But he was He's not very tall. That was that
was his disadvantage here. No, he'd be just six foot.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
He would be about my heart. I reckon, I reckon.
He was misured at six foot once.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And he can jump.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, NANCE wear him and I differ. Yeah, I couldn't
jump over a phone book.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But with the cricket, he not only played for New Zealand,
but he could bat and bowl. It wasn't like he could.
It wasn't like he's just a bowl and he could
bat and bowl and field and field.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I can play wing for the All Blacks.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It was like he was nineteen years old when he's
playing for the Black Caps.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, and then twenty years old. He made his debut
both in the same calendar year. Remember we talked to
him about that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah. His wife Adeen Harper now Adean Wilson also played
for New Zealand. I think she was nineteen or twenty
when she made her debut for the Silver Fans.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I guess they bonded over that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So their children are getting super gene and apparently they
are amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Have you seen that photo of Doug Allett's son that's
getting around.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Freaky how much he looks like. I thought it was
Doug Alley.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I was like, jeez, that's a high riz photo for
the late nineties.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, his younger his younger son played against my son
and Rugby recently. His youngest son is not is not
like Doug in terms of a sight because when Doug
went to my school and I was for forming Douglas
third form when he arrived at school, right, and he
arrived as a fully formed man.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, that's free.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
He like a fully formed man and he is exactly
the same times now that he was when he arrived
in third form.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Massive advantage, massive advantage.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
The whereas his younger son is small yeah right, because
he's third form and yeah, but his oldest son is
the fully flormed man.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Because you snowball that I read that Malcolm Gladwell book
outlies that's where a ten thousand hours thing comes from,
like if you practice ten thousand hours, and he was
he does a whole thing about ice hockey in the
NHL and there's a massive percentage of NHL players whose
birthdays are all in it's either July or January.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, I think it's in New Zealand. The same thing applies.
I know what you're gonna say in January. The people
who are old for their years ended up being much
better sports.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Peace because they they have the advance because as you
age as a kid, the difference between a five and
a six year od as enormous in terms of what
they can do. And that snowballs, so you're wasting every
other kid at that age. That means that gives you
access to representative teams, bit of coaching, and the advantage snowballs.
It's not like, because I remember being a kid, I
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felt like the young kids always thought they had the
advantage because it's like I'm five and I'm playing with
the six year olds by the time I'm eighteen, I
will record it. That's not how it works. It's the opposite.
The advantage snowballs as it rolls down the hill.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And you get your confidence against playing against guys who
are not really good and that and that makes you
more interested in the.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Sport and you in your mind you think should have
God this.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's a confidence game.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm going to keep going because I'll tell you what
passes all over your confidence, and that's sucking at a sport,
which I did at most sports.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Same, Yeah, basketball, I played a I played a representative
tournament in the cargo for North Otago and I had
my shot blocked at one end and I ran down
on defense on the other in same guy that blocked
my shot dunked on me at the other end, and
I was like, after basketball things for me, I might
(10:02):
not make the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That's right. It's good for you, though, good for.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It wasn't the time, but yeah, no, it is at
least good well, particularly growing up in bum fuck nowhere,
you don't know how good or bad you are because
you're only playing against Gus, Aaron and Pete. You know
what I mean. It's not And then you go and
play like a christ Hut school or something. You're like,
oh right, yeah, true, true.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
The Christmas Vision.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's the original.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The ojs.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
O join the White Broncos.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Going with.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Happy nineteen seventy three, six years before Third World and
eighteen years before here. If you're doing the boys, can.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You let it control? Talk to me? Can I love
songs to midnight?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
He really talk to me.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's not like lovers.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Must here on the radio.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Listen. My wife is no longer with me, but our
wedding song was talked to me by Third World, And
if I could just hear that one more time, I
feel like that was our first dance actually, So if
I could hear that one, I feel like talk to me.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Just fearfol that there's going to be any probably will
ye it's a week back said some kids bombing. There
won't be an someone lifting and someone there would.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Go good splash it on by the YouTube premium.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No, no, I'm supprised.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
We don't have YouTube premium in our studio.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, until a few months ago we didn't have
a New Zealand Herald subscription.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So that's sort of.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Do you know that?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Zoe, our person in studio b Princess Leia, she's been
trying to get her email and box to be larger
because when she was an intern it was only a
certain size.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was small.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Now she's on a casual contract that's supposed to be increased,
and she's asked five times, how about.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No one that works for skygets Sky for free? Oh yeah,
here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You can wander yourself around the dance floor. Here, come on,
we do a lot of walk dancing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, this is sort of when you're just getting into
your work at the house party. You know, you're really
starting to feel it. You're doing a full lamp of
the island in the kitchen. Come on, no, have a
little word with me. There's a vicious piano solo in this.
(13:01):
You don't hear the piano solos.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's fascinating a this era of music, late seventies, so
much amazing musicianship and crazy arrangements that were going on
with brilliant vocals.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, what it was was the It was the intersection
between virtuoso musicians and cocaine back when you were still
learning from like a classical school. Then you start to
express yourself a little bit in your own style. Then
all of a sudden, yeah, and then this is where
this music comes from. At around two minutes thirty end
(13:36):
of the song rot, I think you'll someone just grabs
the piano by the scruff of the neck.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
And how proficient on the piano do you have to
(14:07):
be to be able to just jam like that?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Haven't you heard?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Could your brother, rip out the dad on the piano there, Jerry,
he's a proficient players.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
My brother Yeah, no, my brother, my brother, he learned piano,
but I would not call him proficient. I mean he
knew how to play Bruce Hornsby and the range the
way it is. That's but you know, I wouldn't call him.
He was very much self taught.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He couldn't hang the third World.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, he was not the sort of sort of pianist.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I love that they just cleared out a random sort
of part. It's not even at the end of the
Usually the solos reserved for the end of the song.
I think there's another guy who gets a little bit
loose on his guitar later on in this.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's I got stuck on this talk to me? But
didn't they.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It wasn't so much a song as it was just
a concept. Should we do talk to me? How do zecha?
Something like this?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But they got stuck in this.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But yeah, there.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We got this is on a breakout of it guitar, Oh,
space sounds, bongo breakdown.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I even got a cow down, pots and pansy, but
it's not quite as impressive as the piano. Oh, I
just hit my it's the nice punishing noise you ever
(15:30):
heard on the podcast that's live by the way, I'll
pick him.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
There's a bass having at.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's just dip.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
He's dipping his tie unto the pool.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You guys mind if I.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That's a funny.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Bass plucking his way around.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's the bas's it basic an effects pedal?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, I read that, sent a text.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
He talks to me about that back.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Oh, this vision eight minutes eight, that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He has there ever been a song with.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
More versions than you can't seeing these guys live though,
and like a club in the day and you just
be you know, and the toilets sack out of the toilets,
come a bit of a dance back into the toilet.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
We are you doing in the toilet?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I love a toileting weak bloody.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, top to me.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Finished talk to me.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
On the album. That's a gentleman who plays a guitar
like he's sold his sould of the devil.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Twenty more seconds.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I wonder if she ended up talking to him. Blood
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She was trying this whole time. What do you want
to know?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Come on, it's a fade out. If this is a
fade out. Imagine how long the actual.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Movie the live version.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, wow, that was quite something I enjoyed. I do
like that era of music. That's that's a great era
of mes.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, we should host a party on the twenty first
night of September. But Earth window Fire, but a third World.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I've not spent a lot of time around Third World.
I got to say I'm going deep on Third World.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To spend the time around Third World, I don't hang
out with Third World. And they run the gamut. So
they got like laid back reggae songs. They got obviously frantic,
coked out piano man stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's got a bit of air thro beat about it.
It's got a little bit of good stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, mate, it's Third World.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
So the twenty first night of September is a Sunday night, Neglie.
Potentially potentially, I don't mean to put the mockers on
you on Sunday. Could the Warriors be playing on the
twenty first notice September.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It could potentially, Nah, But then that wouldn't clash with
an all back game, so they'd probably be like yes.
At the same time as the yeah plans for the
weekend Fellows quiet one.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, nice quiet one. I had a quiet one last weekend,
and as a result, I already felt like, yeah, I
was good, it's good this week week Actually, I felt
like I was was better and I was better in
my head this week because of a decent you know,
of a relaxing weekend. It's been been. It's been a
lot in the last few weeks, been a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You said you've had some bad sleeps, though I can't,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I did have some bad sleeps, but because I was
rested in the weekend, I was okay to deal with
the bad sleeps. Now, if I had been doing what
I've been doing in the last sort of month in
the weekend last weekend with the sleeps would have been
a disaster.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You got rested, You got is it part of the
rotation policy?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Needed to be rested. You need to be rested. But
you know, sometimes when you come back your way, when
you feel like you've you're spent right, you've had a
huge week, you shattered, and then you feel like you
just need to take it easy. And in my situation,
I had some things that happened to people that are
close to me, which meant that there were funerals and
wakes and all sorts of stuff you've got to turn
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up for. You got to bring yourself and that because
not about you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, they are draining.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Emotionally, massively draining, and then coming back and then turning
up on a Monday morning and the where you go,
giving you all things happened and giving you all to
this show not easy, not easy. But this week was
what about you guys? What are you guys doing this weekend?
I think we've got the rape. I mean there's a
lot of sport to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I'm going to worry is tomorrow. I'm taking Zoe.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I thought you were taking Jeff and meeting Zoe and
her partner Sam there.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Look it's complicated, but I'm getting so. My strategy there
is do you reckon? They'll be playing? So I'm going
to go to Lilyworld early doors, like an hour or
turn there and then and through to watch the game.
Do you think Lilyworld will be playing the All Blacks
when the Warriors game finishes or do you think they'll
be following the play?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I think they'll be playing the All Blacks game.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But there's other league games.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, the Sharks versus the Roosters, although that doesn't start
till oh god, that's ten o'clock.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Ten o'clock, so how does it six? That finishes a seven?
Till nine?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They'll play the All Blacks. But I'm going to put
in a good six hour shift to announce Abot Stadium tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
We don't want to be in the taxi on the
way home when the games playing. That's a good that's
going to be a good.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Times good news for you though, and I are after
you watch the what is it Sharks versus Roosters? Yes,
and then midnight All Blacks women sorry, black Ferns.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Versus So I forget the d World Cup. What time
midnight night he can be happening Bender sport Bender, Yeah,
that's my plan. And then into the tomb on Sunday
and just back up and do nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Make you pecks, guys. I'm going to go Warriors by four. Yeah,
all Blacks by.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Twelve. Oh, I was going to say twelve to two.
I'm with you, I'm in lockstep. And then I think
Black Ferns by I forgot forty. I think they trounced
South Africa. Yeah, I think they trounced that. I mean,
you know, Obviously, a lot's made about the racial issues
in South Africa, and I reckon the sixism's brushed under
(21:36):
the carpet. So yeah, I think they're going to obliterate them.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Jerry, I'm going to say Panthers panthers by eight, No, ten,
Panthers by ten, South Africa by three, and South Africa
women by one.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Where was this guy when Willie Poaching was in here
and when Jeff Wilson was in here? Where was this guy?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I was here? I was here keeping.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Quiet, okay, pretty brave on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
See you on Monday. All right.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle Chance,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chance I've ever worn, or that they make your butt
look amazing. Why don't need to do that?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sidy Tweeny has very keen.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
You see what I did there, right,
No that we found love? What are we gonna do?
Wey no that we found love? What are we gonna do?
Wey no?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Found we gonna do?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Weey? It's ready dollar we gonna do we Welcome along
to the podcast Partay, the twelfth of September twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Magnetic Shoot Shoot, Shoot, Shoot, Shoot all over the place.
This is not the VERSIONNAT thing that's pretty hot. That's
pretty hot old man soundtrack to my because on that
career at the Freezing Works. Really yeah, I had one
(01:07):
of those. I bought myself a not a tape deck,
but you know, a head set and and the fusion
subware for that went in the boot as well. And
it was one of those ones remember back in the day,
because people could steal the head set, so you would
take the the thing off member and you could put
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it in the glove box or whatever you did with that.
Well that that flapped down, then you put the CD
and then pushed it back up. And one day I
pushed it back up and it broke. The CD stuck
in their Third World greatst sets.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So you really got to love Third World.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, this version is one I've not heard before, but yeah,
I really got to know third World originally?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Who's the original on this we found?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Are we going to do with it? I'm pretty sure
it is third World?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
This is the original?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
This isn't though, I think this is a cover, I believe.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
What about the version by the OJ's or by Heavy
D and the Boys?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh, Heavy Dan, the Boys? Did they do it? Yeah?
The Heavy Dan the Boys. That was a one that
I've actually never heard of. Happy Friday, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, Happy Friday, Happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Can I give an update to the Crow of bay Belly? Oh?
Not here today? And I don't think she works Fridays.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I don't know she's she's w f H.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
How's this one?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Just heav D and the Boys, Heavy Dan the Boys?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
What year? I reckon? This is nineteen ninety two? Only
ninety one? What is it? Only three fells like ninety three?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Early nineties?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Laid out.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's had a real sound to it.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
So out in the street, call up, Jerry, can you shoot?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Jerry doesn't loop?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The loop?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Sure? So that's that is?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
We just went through the entire show with the lights off.
By the way, I liked it, and we shut the
lights out this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I liked it. I thought the natural light has a vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It does, I will say, and Willie po Chang handled
it like a champ, But I felt like Goldie wasn't
gonna stand for that ship.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He's not a lights off sort of a guy.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Goldie's lights one. Goldie is very firmly lights on.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's the lights on sort of a guy. He's the
lights on socks offer.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well he was a yeah, Well he was a blazer
pocket square into a pair of black and blue Nike dunks,
and that is a lights on operator, if ever I've
heard one.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Do you think he's still got a Nike sponsorship? I
don't know, because he was sponsored by Nike.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wasn't he a big basketball fan? Goldie and I used
to because he would fill in when I was on
the mainstream sports media and we had him for about
a month, and Goldie and I would sit there and
talk fantasy hoops every day. Did Pat Russell Westbrook up?
You know he's gonna counting stants and out of position
stants like rebounds thro a point guard very valuable, but
(04:23):
it's a shooting percentage going to tank your season.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
There'll be man, Goldie, do you think there's a sport
and just would be a good segment for a radio show,
a probably TV show where where you could be better
than that at gold than Goldie. Could you keep could
you beat Goldie? Like beating Goldie? Chess the sport.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I reckon he did waste at cheers.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm useless at chess. I'm just putting it out.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
There's chess a sport. Chess is not a sport than sports.
In sports, a sports, a pub game, it's a it's
a sport. Poul pools the sports poll is the sport.
I reckon he'd be I've seen him play golf, He's
on a four or something, but as golf a sport,
golf's a sport. Yeah, yeah, I think I think all
those things are sports. I think chess is not a sport.
(05:12):
Chess is a board game.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I hope God he doesn't mind me telling the story,
but Goldian golf has just reminded me of a time
where we were out playing golf. Actually, Jerry, I think
you were with me. We had played at that real
flash course up North Beautiful, and Goldie was in the
group behind us and I and everyone was sitting around talking,
(05:35):
you know, afterwards, having a beer and they said, Oh,
I saw Jeff Wilson behind us, and how do you reckon?
He goes on the golf course, And I guarantee here
is excellent because those retired athletes, they can't turn the
competitive part of their brain off. They are just wired
that way. If you ever hung out with a former
professional athlete, they are There's a reason they get to
that level is because they are competitive about absolutely everything. No.
(05:58):
Sooner had I finished saying that, than Goldie showed up
and someone asked him, how did you go? And I guess, well,
this guy, he was up by two menaced mow him,
chase him down. I managed to get him in the
last thing, and just like launched into this indiath analysis
of how he managed to chase down and eventually throttle
the guy that he was playing kits. I told you
cannot turn oh man, that competitiveness. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think as well. He's just got stupidly good timing
and hand eye.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And he would be used to being excellent everything.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, he's just good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Some of those guys, I mean because he played cricket
for museum, we played he played basketball underage basketball phaneseum. Yeah,
and then he played rugby. Obviously is an All Black great, So.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He plays down the basketball thing. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I think he's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I think he's pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But he was He's not very tall. That was that
was his disadvantage here. No, he'd be just six foot.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
He would be about my heart. I reckon, I reckon.
He was misured at six foot once.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And he can jump.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, NANCE wear him and I differ. Yeah, I couldn't
jump over a phone book.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But with the cricket, he not only played for New Zealand,
but he could bat and bowl. It wasn't like he could.
It wasn't like he's just a bowl and he could
bat and bowl and field and field.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I can play wing for the All Blacks.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It was like he was nineteen years old when he's
playing for the Black Caps.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, and then twenty years old. He made his debut
both in the same calendar year. Remember we talked to
him about that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah. His wife Adeen Harper now Adean Wilson also played
for New Zealand. I think she was nineteen or twenty
when she made her debut for the Silver Fans.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I guess they bonded over that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So their children are getting super gene and apparently they
are amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Have you seen that photo of Doug Allett's son that's
getting around.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Freaky how much he looks like. I thought it was
Doug Alley.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I was like, jeez, that's a high riz photo for
the late nineties.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, his younger his younger son played against my son
and Rugby recently. His youngest son is not is not
like Doug in terms of a sight because when Doug
went to my school and I was for forming Douglas
third form when he arrived at school, right, and he
arrived as a fully formed man.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, that's free.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
He like a fully formed man and he is exactly
the same times now that he was when he arrived
in third form.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Massive advantage, massive advantage.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
The whereas his younger son is small yeah right, because
he's third form and yeah, but his oldest son is
the fully flormed man.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Because you snowball that I read that Malcolm Gladwell book
outlies that's where a ten thousand hours thing comes from,
like if you practice ten thousand hours, and he was
he does a whole thing about ice hockey in the
NHL and there's a massive percentage of NHL players whose
birthdays are all in it's either July or January.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, I think it's in New Zealand. The same thing applies.
I know what you're gonna say in January. The people
who are old for their years ended up being much
better sports.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Peace because they they have the advance because as you
age as a kid, the difference between a five and
a six year od as enormous in terms of what
they can do. And that snowballs, so you're wasting every
other kid at that age. That means that gives you
access to representative teams, bit of coaching, and the advantage snowballs.
It's not like, because I remember being a kid, I
(09:14):
felt like the young kids always thought they had the
advantage because it's like I'm five and I'm playing with
the six year olds by the time I'm eighteen, I
will record it. That's not how it works. It's the opposite.
The advantage snowballs as it rolls down the hill.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And you get your confidence against playing against guys who
are not really good and that and that makes you
more interested in the.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Sport and you in your mind you think should have
God this.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It's a confidence game.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm going to keep going because I'll tell you what
passes all over your confidence, and that's sucking at a sport,
which I did at most sports.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Same, Yeah, basketball, I played a I played a representative
tournament in the cargo for North Otago and I had
my shot blocked at one end and I ran down
on defense on the other in same guy that blocked
my shot dunked on me at the other end, and
I was like, after basketball things for me, I might
(10:02):
not make the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That's right. It's good for you, though, good for.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It wasn't the time, but yeah, no, it is at
least good well, particularly growing up in bum fuck nowhere,
you don't know how good or bad you are because
you're only playing against Gus, Aaron and Pete. You know
what I mean. It's not And then you go and
play like a christ Hut school or something. You're like,
oh right, yeah, true, true.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
The Christmas Vision.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's the original.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The ojs.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
O join the White Broncos.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Going with.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Happy nineteen seventy three, six years before Third World and
eighteen years before here. If you're doing the boys, can.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You let it control? Talk to me? Can I love
songs to midnight?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
He really talk to me.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's not like lovers.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Must here on the radio.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Listen. My wife is no longer with me, but our
wedding song was talked to me by Third World, And
if I could just hear that one more time, I
feel like that was our first dance actually, So if
I could hear that one, I feel like talk to me.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Just fearfol that there's going to be any probably will
ye it's a week back said some kids bombing. There
won't be an someone lifting and someone there would.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Go good splash it on by the YouTube premium.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No, no, I'm supprised.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
We don't have YouTube premium in our studio.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, until a few months ago we didn't have
a New Zealand Herald subscription.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So that's sort of.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Do you know that?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Zoe, our person in studio b Princess Leia, she's been
trying to get her email and box to be larger
because when she was an intern it was only a
certain size.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was small.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Now she's on a casual contract that's supposed to be increased,
and she's asked five times, how about.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No one that works for skygets Sky for free? Oh yeah,
here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You can wander yourself around the dance floor. Here, come on,
we do a lot of walk dancing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, this is sort of when you're just getting into
your work at the house party. You know, you're really
starting to feel it. You're doing a full lamp of
the island in the kitchen. Come on, no, have a
little word with me. There's a vicious piano solo in this.
(13:01):
You don't hear the piano solos.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's fascinating a this era of music, late seventies, so
much amazing musicianship and crazy arrangements that were going on
with brilliant vocals.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, what it was was the It was the intersection
between virtuoso musicians and cocaine back when you were still
learning from like a classical school. Then you start to
express yourself a little bit in your own style. Then
all of a sudden, yeah, and then this is where
this music comes from. At around two minutes thirty end
(13:36):
of the song rot, I think you'll someone just grabs
the piano by the scruff of the neck.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
And how proficient on the piano do you have to
(14:07):
be to be able to just jam like that?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Haven't you heard?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Could your brother, rip out the dad on the piano there, Jerry,
he's a proficient players.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
My brother Yeah, no, my brother, my brother, he learned piano,
but I would not call him proficient. I mean he
knew how to play Bruce Hornsby and the range the
way it is. That's but you know, I wouldn't call him.
He was very much self taught.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He couldn't hang the third World.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, he was not the sort of sort of pianist.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I love that they just cleared out a random sort
of part. It's not even at the end of the
Usually the solos reserved for the end of the song.
I think there's another guy who gets a little bit
loose on his guitar later on in this.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's I got stuck on this talk to me? But
didn't they.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It wasn't so much a song as it was just
a concept. Should we do talk to me? How do zecha?
Something like this?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But they got stuck in this.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But yeah, there.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We got this is on a breakout of it guitar, Oh,
space sounds, bongo breakdown.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I even got a cow down, pots and pansy, but
it's not quite as impressive as the piano. Oh, I
just hit my it's the nice punishing noise you ever
(15:30):
heard on the podcast that's live by the way, I'll
pick him.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
There's a bass having at.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's just dip.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
He's dipping his tie unto the pool.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You guys mind if I.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That's a funny.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Bass plucking his way around.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's the bas's it basic an effects pedal?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, I read that, sent a text.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
He talks to me about that back.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Oh, this vision eight minutes eight, that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He has there ever been a song with.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
More versions than you can't seeing these guys live though,
and like a club in the day and you just
be you know, and the toilets sack out of the toilets,
come a bit of a dance back into the toilet.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
We are you doing in the toilet?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I love a toileting weak bloody.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, top to me.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Finished talk to me.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
On the album. That's a gentleman who plays a guitar
like he's sold his sould of the devil.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Twenty more seconds.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I wonder if she ended up talking to him. Blood
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She was trying this whole time. What do you want
to know?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Come on, it's a fade out. If this is a
fade out. Imagine how long the actual.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Movie the live version.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, wow, that was quite something I enjoyed. I do
like that era of music. That's that's a great era
of mes.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, we should host a party on the twenty first
night of September. But Earth window Fire, but a third World.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I've not spent a lot of time around Third World.
I got to say I'm going deep on Third World.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To spend the time around Third World, I don't hang
out with Third World. And they run the gamut. So
they got like laid back reggae songs. They got obviously frantic,
coked out piano man stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's got a bit of air thro beat about it.
It's got a little bit of good stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, mate, it's Third World.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
So the twenty first night of September is a Sunday night, Neglie.
Potentially potentially, I don't mean to put the mockers on
you on Sunday. Could the Warriors be playing on the
twenty first notice September.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It could potentially, Nah, But then that wouldn't clash with
an all back game, so they'd probably be like yes.
At the same time as the yeah plans for the
weekend Fellows quiet one.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, nice quiet one. I had a quiet one last weekend,
and as a result, I already felt like, yeah, I
was good, it's good this week week Actually, I felt
like I was was better and I was better in
my head this week because of a decent you know,
of a relaxing weekend. It's been been. It's been a
lot in the last few weeks, been a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You said you've had some bad sleeps, though I can't,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I did have some bad sleeps, but because I was
rested in the weekend, I was okay to deal with
the bad sleeps. Now, if I had been doing what
I've been doing in the last sort of month in
the weekend last weekend with the sleeps would have been
a disaster.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You got rested, You got is it part of the
rotation policy?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Needed to be rested. You need to be rested. But
you know, sometimes when you come back your way, when
you feel like you've you're spent right, you've had a
huge week, you shattered, and then you feel like you
just need to take it easy. And in my situation,
I had some things that happened to people that are
close to me, which meant that there were funerals and
wakes and all sorts of stuff you've got to turn
(19:24):
up for. You got to bring yourself and that because
not about you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, they are draining.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Emotionally, massively draining, and then coming back and then turning
up on a Monday morning and the where you go,
giving you all things happened and giving you all to
this show not easy, not easy. But this week was
what about you guys? What are you guys doing this weekend?
I think we've got the rape. I mean there's a
lot of sport to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I'm going to worry is tomorrow. I'm taking Zoe.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I thought you were taking Jeff and meeting Zoe and
her partner Sam there.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Look it's complicated, but I'm getting so. My strategy there
is do you reckon? They'll be playing? So I'm going
to go to Lilyworld early doors, like an hour or
turn there and then and through to watch the game.
Do you think Lilyworld will be playing the All Blacks
when the Warriors game finishes or do you think they'll
be following the play?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I think they'll be playing the All Blacks game.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But there's other league games.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, the Sharks versus the Roosters, although that doesn't start
till oh god, that's ten o'clock.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Ten o'clock, so how does it six? That finishes a seven?
Till nine?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They'll play the All Blacks. But I'm going to put
in a good six hour shift to announce Abot Stadium tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
We don't want to be in the taxi on the
way home when the games playing. That's a good that's
going to be a good.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Times good news for you though, and I are after
you watch the what is it Sharks versus Roosters? Yes,
and then midnight All Blacks women sorry, black Ferns.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Versus So I forget the d World Cup. What time
midnight night he can be happening Bender sport Bender, Yeah,
that's my plan. And then into the tomb on Sunday
and just back up and do nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Make you pecks, guys. I'm going to go Warriors by four. Yeah,
all Blacks by.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Twelve. Oh, I was going to say twelve to two.
I'm with you, I'm in lockstep. And then I think
Black Ferns by I forgot forty. I think they trounced
South Africa. Yeah, I think they trounced that. I mean,
you know, Obviously, a lot's made about the racial issues
in South Africa, and I reckon the sixism's brushed under
(21:36):
the carpet. So yeah, I think they're going to obliterate them.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Jerry, I'm going to say Panthers panthers by eight, No, ten,
Panthers by ten, South Africa by three, and South Africa
women by one.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Where was this guy when Willie Poaching was in here
and when Jeff Wilson was in here? Where was this guy?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I was here? I was here keeping.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Quiet, okay, pretty brave on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
See you on Monday. All right.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle Chance,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chance I've ever worn, or that they make your butt
look amazing. Why don't need to do that?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sidy Tweeny has very keen.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
You see what I did there, right,
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